Wouldn’t this be great if it meant that Skunk Musk would be subject to jail if he comes to the EU and UK! And if this only makes that Joanne STFU it is worth it.
Defamation laws in England are very much in favour of the plaintiff, so this is a good strategy for Khelif to lay the groundwork for a later lawsuit against Rowland et al.
To attack and harass someone so publicly encourages physical attacks and greatly hinders her ability to live a normal life after the competition is over. Likewise, doing it during the Olympics seems designed to cause her anxiety and depression that would diminish her performance in her sport, increasing the odds that she would not earn a metal. Fortunately, she overcame all that and won her gold metal. I keep asking myself why people do what these people did.
Biological sex and gender are complicated. A friend of mine just learned that her daughter has an XY genotype. XY females are not common, but more common than one might think. She has the XY phenotype as well: tall and willowy like a model. No, giving her male hormones will not turn her into a boy. Her body is insensitive to male hormones, which is why she is an XY female. This is just one of many variations of sex and gender.
It is believed that a certain percentage of models have this particular XY…for the very reason that it produces the preferred body type for runway models. Please correct me if I’m wrong..it also decreases anything that testosterone might bolster (like body/face hair) and increases the likelihood of larger breasts. Again…it is interesting that these are the very things that Maggots think “women” should look like. Makes me laugh sometimes.
We understood. Still, if you ever want to change your comment in any way, at the bottom of your comment on the right side are 3 little dots. Click on those and one of the options is "edit". Click on edit and you're allowed to change your text to fix any errors or add things you forgot.
At any rate, I hope that they, completely legally and with an eye towards justice, harass the ever lovin’ shit out of those assholes. They could have gotten Khelif attacked, imprisoned, or killed.
I hope Rowling, in particular, suffers all the indignities she so richly deserves.
I'm too old to have read the Harry Potter books, so I can't boycott them. Saw the first movie and had no desire to see any of the sequels. So there's that.
Some people are just hateful. It can be triggered sometimes, when circumstances in life are affected. You know how they say that money changes people? Money gave her all of the time in the world to seethe and become another professional victim.
While I'm a firm believer in "death of the author" it's heartbreaking how much her horribleness ruined what used to be a happy place for me. I can't stand any HP content any more. I don't even want to pirate it.
I worked with a woman whose family LOVED HP; they and their kids would listen to the audio books on car trips, the parents would read them to the kids before bed, over and over. When the kids were old enough, the entire family got very tiny, very subtle HP tattoos on their wrists.
Such a bonding experience.
Fast forward several years, and one of the kids got gender-reassigning surgery. The parents and the other kids are completely accepting of this kid, and it always made me sad that they are now sad about their family tattoos.
I can't get tattoos - too high a risk for keloid scars - but this is the main reason I'd be reluctant to get one regardless.
I know people who view their bodies as a canvas; one old friend has a tattoo to mark major events in her life, as proof she survived. She got a gorgeous tattoo of herself as a mermaid on the beach after she survived being in Panama City when Hurricane Michael hit. (She also got a much, much smaller one to celebrate her first divorce.)
I didn’t care for tattoos so I don’t have any (my grandfather had some so I associate them with Old People). If someone wants me to admire their new ink I may ask what the design means to them, but I mostly don’t say anything. It’s not my business
On top of everything else, all the "JKR is just protecting women's sports! There's no difference between a man punching a woman in a boxing ring and domestic violence!"
Fuck them all. I fought 15 rounds to get my black belt and most of them were men. One of them was a super heavyweight Golden Gloves boxer! I was a skinny college girl! But we were following rules, wearing sparring gear, and as safe as we could make it, regardless of who was fighting who.
The ironic thing about the whole “protecting women’s sports” thing (well, not the only one—these transphobic jerks are all hypocrites, after all) is that Lin Yu-Ting, the Taiwanese boxer who was also accused along with Imane Khelif, first took up boxing as a middle schooler to protect her mother from an abusive partner.
Some of this TERF crap is aimed at telling cis women what they should do and how they should look also.
Cause otherwise you'll be called a "man" and harassed.
Eventually, one of these quisling women will get the same treatment and then they will get it, but I won't care because in their quest to force women -of all sorts- to their ideal, they have caused real ever lasting harm.
This is the thing about racism, ethnic hate, hate for LGBTIQ+, ignoring of the differently abled -- it hurts *everybody*.
Not everybody fired from their government job, or who lost their security clearance (ie, their careers) during the Lavender Scare was in fact homosexual.
During the Salem Trials, remember that Giles Corey -- 81 years old and a wealthy landowner -- was accused of wizardry. He knew he didn't enter people's dreams and beat them. He knew exactly what was happening -- the sheriff was jealous of his land and wanted it (and knew that if convicted of witchcraft, the sheriff would be ordered to confiscate Corey's estate. Since the sheriff compiled the inventory, no one would know what the sheriff put in his own house and what he turned over to the state.)
As Arthur Miller dramatized without having to make anything up, for failing to enter a plea (which prevented Corey from being tried) he was tortured -- laid naked upon the floor of his filthy jail cell, a board placed on his chest and stones piled upon him until he entered a plea. When asked what he plea was, Corey responded nearly each time, "more weight." His murder this way took three days.
When, for example, state governments don't actively use their powers to deny Black folks the right to vote, then its much more likely that everyone can vote. When trans kids are treated with dignity in public schools, so much the better that every kid, no matter which of the millions of immutable features that make us each special and different they possess, will be treated with dignity.
Put in MLK's formulation, as long as someone is being discriminated against, there's no guarantee *you* won't be discriminated against. If your one of those people whose only interest is yourself, then its rational to make common cause with the poor and afflicted -- because it goes that much further to ensuring you won't be afflicted because of something weird about you. And everybody, in one way or another, is weird. That's actually beautiful. Beauty is truth. Racism, sexism, ethnic hatred, homophobia, etc. obscures that beauty, and thus cannot be truth, for the truth is always beautiful.
One suspects that this hate, this conspiracy, in the boxer's case was yes about trans hate, but it was also about knocking out through hate someone the entire community understood had the best chance to win that Olympic gold medal. So often, the evil of hate is in the service of avarice. Hate is handy tool -- an evil short cut and "labor saver" for the greedy and the ambitious.
A broadly shared wholistic approach -- that equality, decency, forbearance, generosity, compassion robs evil fuckers of that little convenient tool.
Thank you for this comment. I have learned something really important! “The evil of hate is in the service of avarice”. Just think about the Tulsa massacre…it was totally about avarice. What was King David’s major sin…his “avarice” for Bathsheba…one of the deadly sins.
The worst thing to hear as a gov't employee in the early 1950s was *not* "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?" but rather "Evidence has come to our attention that you are a homosexual. How do you intend to respond?"
In the former case, all sorts of people and organizations could rally to your side. In the latter.....
An accusation toward your fellow State Department rookie was a "life hack," provided you had a diseased soul, that could swiftly move your career up. Again, the "best" part was, an accusation was as good as a conviction. It didn't matter if your target was or wasn't.
Again, if such anti-social hatred isn't allowed, all are made more free. Compassion and equanimity to the marginalized enhances all lives. Thing is, human beings are naturally wired for such "reciprocity," such "live and let live" behavior. It's just our culture, many cultures, beats it out of you, replacing it with a conditioned fear response that authoritarian personalities find useful. As Rodgers & Hammerstein wrote in 'South Pacific,' a person "must be carefully taught" to hate.
This'd be very interesting, though I guess there's some potential discussion about this under the 1st Amendment (are either Transphobe Queen, Apartheid Clyde or President Klan Robe covered under this?)? Somehow I think of this as akin to SWATting, which seems to not have statutes behind it. Or maybe it does? In the USA, would this be protected hate speech? I am really hoping some consequences come in but I am not confident of that. And this is generally the only thing that hits the rich and powerful...their money.
It might be an issue if any of those people were to visit France. TFG can't go because he's a felon, but the others might just drop in on vacation. It would be great to hear that they were arrested and facing trial. Tried in absentia, anyone?
Wouldn’t this be great if it meant that Skunk Musk would be subject to jail if he comes to the EU and UK! And if this only makes that Joanne STFU it is worth it.
Ta, Crip Dyke. We all have work to do.
I really like FAFO.
It produces those Republican tears I use in my special homemade MAGA ice cream.
Defamation laws in England are very much in favour of the plaintiff, so this is a good strategy for Khelif to lay the groundwork for a later lawsuit against Rowland et al.
To attack and harass someone so publicly encourages physical attacks and greatly hinders her ability to live a normal life after the competition is over. Likewise, doing it during the Olympics seems designed to cause her anxiety and depression that would diminish her performance in her sport, increasing the odds that she would not earn a metal. Fortunately, she overcame all that and won her gold metal. I keep asking myself why people do what these people did.
Biological sex and gender are complicated. A friend of mine just learned that her daughter has an XY genotype. XY females are not common, but more common than one might think. She has the XY phenotype as well: tall and willowy like a model. No, giving her male hormones will not turn her into a boy. Her body is insensitive to male hormones, which is why she is an XY female. This is just one of many variations of sex and gender.
It is believed that a certain percentage of models have this particular XY…for the very reason that it produces the preferred body type for runway models. Please correct me if I’m wrong..it also decreases anything that testosterone might bolster (like body/face hair) and increases the likelihood of larger breasts. Again…it is interesting that these are the very things that Maggots think “women” should look like. Makes me laugh sometimes.
All true. It’s usually discovered when a adolescent girl never has a period, but sometimes it is not discovered until adulthood.
There's even a case in the literature of an XY person giving birth.
They usually don’t have a uterus, but many things may happen.
I meant medal.
We understood. Still, if you ever want to change your comment in any way, at the bottom of your comment on the right side are 3 little dots. Click on those and one of the options is "edit". Click on edit and you're allowed to change your text to fix any errors or add things you forgot.
At any rate, I hope that they, completely legally and with an eye towards justice, harass the ever lovin’ shit out of those assholes. They could have gotten Khelif attacked, imprisoned, or killed.
I hope Rowling, in particular, suffers all the indignities she so richly deserves.
I hope she wins massively against this murder of assholes.
Wishing Khelif and Boudi every success!
Many thanks for your usual clear, thoughtful article, CD!
I'm too old to have read the Harry Potter books, so I can't boycott them. Saw the first movie and had no desire to see any of the sequels. So there's that.
And still I ask Rowling: WHY?
Some people are just hateful. It can be triggered sometimes, when circumstances in life are affected. You know how they say that money changes people? Money gave her all of the time in the world to seethe and become another professional victim.
She got rich by, let's check the record, using a more gender-neutral-sounding name, because books with men's names fetch a higher price.
She's a shitty person who was born and will die a shitty person.
Also, too, her publisher advised her that boys were less likely to read her book if they knew the author was a woman.
AVADA KA-FUCK-OFF, Rowling.
While I'm a firm believer in "death of the author" it's heartbreaking how much her horribleness ruined what used to be a happy place for me. I can't stand any HP content any more. I don't even want to pirate it.
I worked with a woman whose family LOVED HP; they and their kids would listen to the audio books on car trips, the parents would read them to the kids before bed, over and over. When the kids were old enough, the entire family got very tiny, very subtle HP tattoos on their wrists.
Such a bonding experience.
Fast forward several years, and one of the kids got gender-reassigning surgery. The parents and the other kids are completely accepting of this kid, and it always made me sad that they are now sad about their family tattoos.
I can't get tattoos - too high a risk for keloid scars - but this is the main reason I'd be reluctant to get one regardless.
I know people who view their bodies as a canvas; one old friend has a tattoo to mark major events in her life, as proof she survived. She got a gorgeous tattoo of herself as a mermaid on the beach after she survived being in Panama City when Hurricane Michael hit. (She also got a much, much smaller one to celebrate her first divorce.)
I didn’t care for tattoos so I don’t have any (my grandfather had some so I associate them with Old People). If someone wants me to admire their new ink I may ask what the design means to them, but I mostly don’t say anything. It’s not my business
On top of everything else, all the "JKR is just protecting women's sports! There's no difference between a man punching a woman in a boxing ring and domestic violence!"
Fuck them all. I fought 15 rounds to get my black belt and most of them were men. One of them was a super heavyweight Golden Gloves boxer! I was a skinny college girl! But we were following rules, wearing sparring gear, and as safe as we could make it, regardless of who was fighting who.
The ironic thing about the whole “protecting women’s sports” thing (well, not the only one—these transphobic jerks are all hypocrites, after all) is that Lin Yu-Ting, the Taiwanese boxer who was also accused along with Imane Khelif, first took up boxing as a middle schooler to protect her mother from an abusive partner.
Some of this TERF crap is aimed at telling cis women what they should do and how they should look also.
Cause otherwise you'll be called a "man" and harassed.
Eventually, one of these quisling women will get the same treatment and then they will get it, but I won't care because in their quest to force women -of all sorts- to their ideal, they have caused real ever lasting harm.
This is the thing about racism, ethnic hate, hate for LGBTIQ+, ignoring of the differently abled -- it hurts *everybody*.
Not everybody fired from their government job, or who lost their security clearance (ie, their careers) during the Lavender Scare was in fact homosexual.
During the Salem Trials, remember that Giles Corey -- 81 years old and a wealthy landowner -- was accused of wizardry. He knew he didn't enter people's dreams and beat them. He knew exactly what was happening -- the sheriff was jealous of his land and wanted it (and knew that if convicted of witchcraft, the sheriff would be ordered to confiscate Corey's estate. Since the sheriff compiled the inventory, no one would know what the sheriff put in his own house and what he turned over to the state.)
As Arthur Miller dramatized without having to make anything up, for failing to enter a plea (which prevented Corey from being tried) he was tortured -- laid naked upon the floor of his filthy jail cell, a board placed on his chest and stones piled upon him until he entered a plea. When asked what he plea was, Corey responded nearly each time, "more weight." His murder this way took three days.
When, for example, state governments don't actively use their powers to deny Black folks the right to vote, then its much more likely that everyone can vote. When trans kids are treated with dignity in public schools, so much the better that every kid, no matter which of the millions of immutable features that make us each special and different they possess, will be treated with dignity.
Put in MLK's formulation, as long as someone is being discriminated against, there's no guarantee *you* won't be discriminated against. If your one of those people whose only interest is yourself, then its rational to make common cause with the poor and afflicted -- because it goes that much further to ensuring you won't be afflicted because of something weird about you. And everybody, in one way or another, is weird. That's actually beautiful. Beauty is truth. Racism, sexism, ethnic hatred, homophobia, etc. obscures that beauty, and thus cannot be truth, for the truth is always beautiful.
One suspects that this hate, this conspiracy, in the boxer's case was yes about trans hate, but it was also about knocking out through hate someone the entire community understood had the best chance to win that Olympic gold medal. So often, the evil of hate is in the service of avarice. Hate is handy tool -- an evil short cut and "labor saver" for the greedy and the ambitious.
A broadly shared wholistic approach -- that equality, decency, forbearance, generosity, compassion robs evil fuckers of that little convenient tool.
Thank you for this comment. I have learned something really important! “The evil of hate is in the service of avarice”. Just think about the Tulsa massacre…it was totally about avarice. What was King David’s major sin…his “avarice” for Bathsheba…one of the deadly sins.
Re: The Lavender Scare....
The worst thing to hear as a gov't employee in the early 1950s was *not* "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?" but rather "Evidence has come to our attention that you are a homosexual. How do you intend to respond?"
In the former case, all sorts of people and organizations could rally to your side. In the latter.....
An accusation toward your fellow State Department rookie was a "life hack," provided you had a diseased soul, that could swiftly move your career up. Again, the "best" part was, an accusation was as good as a conviction. It didn't matter if your target was or wasn't.
Again, if such anti-social hatred isn't allowed, all are made more free. Compassion and equanimity to the marginalized enhances all lives. Thing is, human beings are naturally wired for such "reciprocity," such "live and let live" behavior. It's just our culture, many cultures, beats it out of you, replacing it with a conditioned fear response that authoritarian personalities find useful. As Rodgers & Hammerstein wrote in 'South Pacific,' a person "must be carefully taught" to hate.
If you can find it, the Emmy Award-winning 1975 TV movie "Fear on Trial" is great. William Devane is Faulk and George C. Scott as lawyer Louis Nizer.
It was shown to us in high school in the late 1980s.
This'd be very interesting, though I guess there's some potential discussion about this under the 1st Amendment (are either Transphobe Queen, Apartheid Clyde or President Klan Robe covered under this?)? Somehow I think of this as akin to SWATting, which seems to not have statutes behind it. Or maybe it does? In the USA, would this be protected hate speech? I am really hoping some consequences come in but I am not confident of that. And this is generally the only thing that hits the rich and powerful...their money.
It might be an issue if any of those people were to visit France. TFG can't go because he's a felon, but the others might just drop in on vacation. It would be great to hear that they were arrested and facing trial. Tried in absentia, anyone?
Good!
Where do we get a Central Office for Combating Crimes against Humanity and Hate Crimes? Asking for a nation.
The closest national legislature for your convenience!