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The Trump budget proposal, which like all presidential budgets is make-believe because Congress will do what it damn well pleases, is nonetheless full of not only imaginary revenue and spending priorities, but full of some genuinely terrible ideas for slashing the public safety net and replacing it with a nice big bucket of shame, which ought to finally motivate poor people to stop being poor and go out and become rich. Oh, sure, there’s the predictable rightwing wet dream of rolling back the Obamacare Medicaid expansion and converting what’s left of the ACA to a block grant to states (with far less funding), plus slashing billions from housing assistance, and just about everything else. But what’s really getting attention is an insane proposal to cut benefits for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (aka food stamps) by half and replace the benefits with a monthly delivery of commodity foods from the US Department of Agriculture.

Office of Management and Budget director Mick Mulvaney, the genius who assured us last year that Meals on Wheels sounds nice but is actually just wasted on old people, claimed the canned/boxed commodity packages would be a “Blue Apron-type program,” except that instead of having fixin’s for a single meal delivered, poor families would have a big chunk of their monthly menu determined by whatever the government chooses for them every month. States would have “flexibility” in how the food would be delivered, which might mean they’d deliver the boxes by mail, or maybe just tell everyone in Montana, say, to drive to Bozeman to pick up their monthly supplies.

You see, children, it’s evil when the government provides assistance with health care, because that’s telling you which doctor you can go to and a violation of your freedom, like Hitler. But if the government tells poor families their diet will depend on whatever shelf-stable commodities get tossed into a monthly “America’s Harvest Box,” that’s good, because then other Americans will be freed from the anguish of seeing poor folks using an EBT card to buy groceries Tucker Carlson doesn’t approve of. And the poor can suck it, because they should be grateful they get anything, shut up.

The food boxes would contain “100 percent US grown and produced food” and would include stuff like peanut butter, shelf-stable milk, canned meats and fruits, and cereal — probably of the blandest generic kind. No fresh vegetables or meat, which are of course what you get in a REAL Blue Apron type meal, so poors will still have to offend decent people at the grocery store if they want something green.

The Trumpers don’t say anything about whether the boxes would take into account special dietary needs like kids with food allergies or diabetes (they won’t), and there’s definitely nothing in the proposal about religious dietary restrictions, because can you imagine the screaming about “creeping Sharia” if USDA were talking about delivering halal food boxes? Remember, this isn’t a real proposal, it’s vaporware, an attempt to get rightwing buzz that may eventually result in legislation. It’s an attempt to throw Food Stamp recipients out the Overton Window, because hasn’t every wingnut said “Those people should get a monthly shipment of beans and rice and make do with that”? It’s not going to happen this year, but it’s definitely intended to make boxes of Freedom Food an official part of the discussion about Those People.

Politico explains where this cockamamie idea came from, and where it didn’t: It’s the brainchild of some of the best brains of the USDA, especially Ag secretary Sonny Perdue, according to USDA spokesman Tim Murtaugh.

The idea that USDA would provide millions of low-income people packages of food on a national scale has not been floated by conservative think tanks, promoted by industry, or sought by previous administrations. Murtaugh said the concept was developed internally at USDA. Mulvaney on Monday credited Perdue for it during a briefing at the White House.

“Secretary Perdue wanted to give it a chance,” he said. “We thought it was a tremendous idea.”

And how is this tremendous idea being received by people who actually have worked with food programs, and are not just elevated veterinarians like Perdue (despite the name, he’s not related to the chicken-business Perdues) and people who get all their best ideas from “Fox & Friends”? Many thought it was some kind of weirdass joke.

Kevin Concannon, who oversaw SNAP during the Obama administration, was aghast when he saw the proposal.

“Holy mackerel,” said Concannon, who said it reminded him of when poor people had to line up and wait for local officials to dole out food and other welfare benefits. “I don’t know where this came from, but I suspect that the folks when they were drawing it up were also watching silent movies.”

Other anti-hunger advocates said the concept was reminiscent of wartime rations or soup lines during the Great Depression. The Food Research and Action Center, a prominent nonprofit group, called the harvest box idea “a Rube-Goldberg designed system” that would be “costly, inefficient, stigmatizing, and prone to failure.”

Somewhere, Chris Cillizza could be heard typing up a draft of a column declaring that even if it’s a terrible idea, it demonstrates the administration’s willingness to try new things and shake up the paradigm.

USDA claims it would be able to purchase and distribute the food boxes at “approximately half the retail cost” of the contents, which seems dubious; the proposed program would be combined with existing programs that distribute commodities to schools, food banks, and other groups. But as Politico notes, any such new program wouldn’t exactly come cheap:

[A] plan for SNAP recipients would be an exponentially larger undertaking, covering more than 16 million households. While grocery and meal-delivery companies are growing more common, their scale is still relatively small and largely confined to urban areas. Blue Apron, for example, has around 1 million customers.

And then there’s the teensy detail that this would hit grocery stores hard: The Food Marketing Institute, which lobbies on behalf of major food retailers, has already come out against it, since the stores would lose billions of dollars they now get in SNAP payments.

Again, they don’t really have to worry just yet, since this budget proposal is all just the beautiful dream of Ayn Rand fans who wish the villainous landlords in Dickens had gotten more sympathetic treatment. But now that the idea’s been released in the wild, get ready for nine million “that’s a great idea!” segments on Fox, plus some morons reminiscing fondly about how much, as poor kids, they loved government cheese. The real appeal of this idea is that it’s another way to remind the poor that they’re terrible people with limited options, and the government will now send them a monthly package of Shame Food to underline the point. We can hardly wait for the cheerful USDA menu hints for fun things to make with pinto beans.

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  • Ellie

    It’s a dandy way to continue to humiliate The Poors (many of whom have jobs), and I’m quite sure someone will be making money from this – but not places like the dollar stores, Adli, or Target, for whom this would be a nightmare.

    • ArgieBargie

      Next time, the poors should work harder to make sure they are born into a white, wealthy family.

  • Toledo Window Box

    You’d think people in this country would wake up at some point and realize that every single time Republicans are in power, they borrow like crazy, hand out tax cuts we can’t afford, get rid of all the rules that keep crooks from robbing us blind, and then we all watch it crash. Over and over and over again.

    You’d think we’d learn.

  • memzilla Ω
    • calliecallie

      Is it wrong that this actually makes me want a hamburger? I have been beef-free for three weeks.

      • Lascauxcaveman

        Yes, it’s wrong that THAT makes you want a hamburger. Gaaaaahg!

        But there’s nothing wrong with being tempted by a well crafted teevee commercial, or those 2-for-1 coupons that always catch my eye in the Wednesday junkmail dump in my mailbox.

        Do it like the Catholics do with Sundays during lent. Allow yourself one day per week to cheat.

  • wide_stance_hubby

    I got nothing to say here that I would not regret.

    • Toomush Stability

      Regret may be too big a word?…

  • CripesAmighty

    Yep, can’t wait for the reaction when the Humiliation Wagons start rumbling through the trumpanzee trailer parks.

    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      Klaxon: “You have 2 minutes to assemble. Have your identity chips ready. You will only receive your personal ration. Anyone not in queue will not receive a ration. If your relative is too sick to come out, that is not our concern.”

      • Toomush Stability

        Bring out your Dead!….

        • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

          I’m not dead yet!

          • Toomush Stability

            Yes, you are….

          • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

            I think I’ll go for a walk!

          • Toomush Stability

            Well, you’re mostly dead, anyway. Get back in there….

      • Longstreet63

        Half a kilo? I waited in line for six hours for half a kilo?
        It’s fascinating how hard they’re trying to make “Soylent Green” a documentary.

    • Toomush Stability

      “Hey! This is the fault of the Democrats!…”

  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

    OOOH It’s like MeUndies with free pre-soiling!

  • Anna Rompage

    I can remember back in the 70s, that the fed govt ran programs like these.

    They abandoned them in exchange for a more robust food stamp program because the distribution costs were way too expensive…

    • Meccalopolis

      Govt cheese was alright

    • Stulexington

      It’s almost like distributing goods cheaply is one of the main advantages of capitalism or something.

    • Lascauxcaveman

      I’ve got an efficient distribution system for ya: it’s called Safeway. Or Vons. Or Piggly Wiggly, Wegmans, WinCo, Kroger,et al, depending on your region.

      • Opalescent Riddles

        Isn’t that one of those public/private partnerships the assholes are always saying they like? Why is it bad when it’s food, but good when it’s a bridge?

        • Marion in Savannah

          Because of brown/black poors.

          • Opalescent Riddles

            You are correct, of course. Silly of me to have missed it.

          • Seek

            How long until the White Poorz get the full EBT card and the Poorz of Color get this “improved” program? Wanna bet that it doesn’t get implemented out there in Trump Country just in metropolitan areas with these handy concentrations of Poorz of Color?

    • Opalescent Riddles

      YES! YES! I USED THE SHIFT KEY TO TYPE YES TWICE!

      You know what’s much cheaper? Mailing a debit card that someone can use while they’re at the store buying other necessities.

  • DainBramage

    Since there would be no caviar in the food packages, the poor would be spared the horror of having to scoop it using a plastic spoon.

  • Toomush Stability

    The thing about Meals on Wheels – it provides warm, if not hot, meals once a day to people like Gramma Toomush, who, until last year, was barricaded in her home, blindly yelling at windmills that she’d never be taken alive. People who can’t see to cook, much less leave their homes. (Now, of course, still kicking, Gramma Toomush lives in a nice, accessible apartment where she meets with the rest of the geriatrics for noon meals down the hall and spas and exercise classes and music activities and reading groups, and, of course, afternoon tea and gossip and, are you here again, I wish you’d warned me, because I’m having guests and we’re going out soon and I’d like to put together a birthday party for my 96th, can you handle that for me, hon)…

    • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

      I wish I could get Momma and Pappa Partybuns (my real name) into some place like that, but my father has declared that he is dying in that house. Which is now at least 5 hours from any of their children. *sigh*

      • Toomush Stability

        With Grampa Toomush, we had to wait until the hospital assured us that life at home with Gramma had nearly killed him. He’s happily next door in the nursing home, where he intends to live for several years. Both their short term memories are gone totally gone – did you say gone? Both their long term memories are knife sharp…oh, and I’m 14 hours away. There are no planes that go there….

        • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

          I’m hoping to get them near my brother, who has the only grandkids. Safely away from me. My relationship with them, esp Father Asshole, is thorny at best. At least he’s one of them coastal elite libruls so his emails are ok.

          • Toomush Stability

            Yeah, I tried that too. The other two kids are too busy gallivanting around the world in their “jobs”, or just being old and crazy their own selfs… I would never pile this on the grandkids, poor muffins…

          • Ellie

            I’m absolutely sure that it doesn’t apply to anyone here, but after volunteering for many years in assisted living/adultcare/nursing homes, I learned a truism: It takes one mother to take care of 5 children, but sometimes even 10 children can’t take care of one mother.

    • Ellie

      I’d be happy with a place like that, but while I can’t afford the rent where I’d like to go, my income is way too high (and I’m not complaining about it) for subsidized housing. It would be very nice to see people in real life more than once a week or so. I think that’s great news about Gramma Toomush.

      • Toomush Stability

        Thanks! It was a long process, and it’s eating up every bit of the nest egg they stashed away to threaten their children with, but it’s worth it…

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “Why are we wasting money keeping poor people alive when there are so many golf course toilets in need of gold leaf!”
    — Donald Trump

  • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

    An Obama appointee was aghast?

    Mission accomplished

  • Harry Nuggets

    You just know said box will be full of Trump food products…..if there are any still around that haven’t gone bankrupt.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “We have warehouses full of Trump Steaks that are well on their way to becoming Trump Vodka. Something about not paying the refrigeration bills?”

      • Harry Nuggets

        Trump Steaks. Like meat, like man. Gristly, tasteless and will give you the trots.

        • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

          Only edible* when burned to a crisp and smother in ketchup.

          *for some definitions of “edible”.

          • Harry Nuggets

            Ever looked at the reviews? Some of the ones for the Trump hot dogs are good as well….

        • Longstreet63

          Don’t blame the cows, man. Blame the idiot who eats steak that he hates the taste of, and so has burned and covered in ketchup.
          I feel the same about people who use A-1: if you don’t like the taste of steak, why are you eating it?

          • Harry Nuggets

            Indeed, but if you get a box full of individually wrapped bone, sinew and fat you’ve got good reason to grumble.

  • IMPOed

    Feed the Rich, Fuck the poor…. MURIKKKA!!!

    • Ellie

      Eat the rich.

      • Hiss

        Skim off the fat first.

      • Longstreet63

        Soylent Gold!

  • Anna Rompage

    It’s like a ‘Blue Apron’ program, where the recipents get a case of creamed corn, some canned spinach, a block of nearly expired plain wrap velveeta, and a canned chicken on occasion… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6b7ea47f335a2c0d9dca053d28f928aac47d197734cc929b146321d8f29dfb63.jpg

    • TJ Barke

      That is horrifying.

      • Longstreet63

        Actually, that’s Sweet Sue canned chicken packed in gelatin. It’s not bad, really, but you don’t eat it that way. You cook with it.

        • TJ Barke

          It’s still a horrifying image.

          • Longstreet63

            Fair enough, but then civilization works on stuff you’d rather not look at.
            It’s always oddly comforting to me that the primary product of humanity is billions of tons of human waste. Everything else we make pales in comparison.

            Also, ever see Dinty Moore Beef Stew?

          • TJ Barke

            Sure. It’s delicious.

          • Longstreet63

            But it does look like something you feed the poorer kind of dog.

          • TJ Barke

            Clearly you’ve never seen Science Diet i/d low fat canned food. And that’s not even for poor dogs.

    • Dutchman
    • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

      Bizarre.

    • Ellie

      I read some reviews on Amazon – they go from love to WTF.

    • Opiwan

      what
      the actual
      fuck
      ???

      Is that… encased in GELATIN? I SAY AGAIN: WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

      • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

        Have you ever seen real broth cold? It’s largely gelatin. Though it still looks weird.

      • Anna Rompage

        More or less, gelatin is the collagen that comes out of soft tissue when meat & bones are cooked

        • Opiwan

          Well yeah, I just figured they had added it as “packing material” in the can, but it makes sense it is the oozy goodness from the bird itself. I’ll go vomit somewhere else now.

    • Occupied Shithole of Kavefish
  • MynameisBlarney
  • TJ Barke

    If we make the poor miserable then they’ll just stop being poor, right?

    • cmd resistor

      They could include some bootstraps in those boxes, also, too.

      • Hiss

        Tasty.

        • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

          A little chewy.

      • Toomush Stability

        What? Socialisms! Get yer own bootstraps! These are mine!…

  • ArgieBargie

    “Somewhere, Chris Cillizza could be heard typing up a draft of a column declaring that even if it’s a terrible idea, it demonstrates the administration’s willingness to try new things and shake up the paradigm.”

    Dear Chris…

    https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/81c9765629a6ad8887505d4e0ce7ddbe/5AFBA63B/t51.2885-15/e35/25010532_1484971911616823_2894647016489484288_n.jpg

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Chris will NOT let Chuckles the Toddler have the first tumbrel ride. HE WILL NOT!

  • Villago Delenda Est

    The main reason for this proposal (which will never see the light of day) is to “privatize” the food stamp program so that contractors can skim off it and deliver crap to those in the program.

    The way the system works now is an actual economic stimulus: you go down to the supermarket and buy approved foods just as you would without the program, to suit your needs and tastes, AND you’re putting money back into the economy.

    This obviously makes way too much sense; we need to punish poors for being poor.

    • Longstreet63

      Plus, the current system disperses the wealth-siphoning too much. This way, a few large contractors can maximize profit by reducing quality, and ensuring the regulations specify that whatever is most profitable be mandated to be included, while not requiring any specific nutritional value or calorie content.
      Plus, you would be able to tell the poor by the scurvy!

      • theblackdog

        I could just see Aramark or Sodexho getting right in on this.

    • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

      Zackly. And if they “accidentally” deliver expired food from the grocery store dumpster, those responsible will be sacked (with a nice severance package). And it will “never happen again”.

      • Longstreet63

        Well, you wouldn’t want to increase costs to send it fast or anything. And of course, you want to use the oldest first…

        Historical note:
        The Great Mutiny of 1797 was largely precipitated by the poor rations issued to British seamen (which, yes, they were charged for) thanks to a policy of using the oldest casks first. This meant that sailors got rotten beef while fresh beef rotted on the wharf next door. Because an economy minded administration had stockpiled years of salt beef to get a better price.

    • Harry Nuggets

      Yep, that’s why we need lower taxes for those who already sit on a gold crapper. There’s nothing to really invest all that loot in, other than Silicon Valley and the privatization of services that will always be necessary. Like feeding the unlucky, unable and unemployable. You can also invest in the other end of this model and pour your money into private prisons and security companies.

  • Hobbes’ like, smart Evil Twin

    Soup lines,

    Free loaves of bread,

    5 pound blocks of cheese.

    We just get by, however we can.

    • Anna Rompage

      Make America like Russia again!

      • Dutchman

        In Soviet Russia cheese block you!!11!!1

        • Longstreet63

          Cheese blocks me here, but I still eat it…

    • BreakingDeadMen

      I can’t believe I used to like those guys

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    States would have “flexibility” in how the food would be delivered, which might mean they’d deliver the boxes by mail

    Because it’s not as if anyone has stolen a package sitting outside someone’s residence. What could possibly go wrong?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9889468d6c8d494fe81467335528339653dc9086c86fbf59b32cafc40b63765a.gif

    • theblackdog

      Also you can bet they will not pay the postal service for those deliveries since this regime believes the postal service is already too expensive.

    • Darlene Underdahl

      Thieves are breaking into postal lockers right now if a mail carriers tips them off that pain medicine has been delivered. Food would be the same.

    • GuidedAccordingly

      Not to mention that cheese left out on a hot porch in the summer.

  • Hiss

    Just wait until the epidemics start (because no healthcare, of course) and the rich people start to die as well. Just wait.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      You can help! Spit in a rich person’s food today! (with votes, etc.)

      • calliecallie

        Only if you’re already got the plague.

        • Hiss

          Plague, of course, can be cured with tetracycline. But not if you can’t get any. And then there’s pneumonic plague, which will kill within hours. Of course, we don’t have plague reservoirs in New Mexico. Hah.

        • Occupied Shithole of Kavefish

          “Calling Capt. Tripps! Capt. Tripps, on Line 2!”

      • Ellie

        Spitting is nasty. Coughing is much neater.

    • Stulexington

      “I don’t understand why my horribly underpaid staff didn’t stay home instead of coming to work sick and giving us entitled people the plague.”

      • Hiss

        And also, remember no sick leave.

    • theblackdog

      *laughs* Rich people won’t die, they have the money to pay the doctors or to leave the country for a while.

      • Hiss

        They will if it’s airborne, fast-acting, and a virus. Of which, of course, none exist. At all.

      • Hiss

        Or hole up in their castles. Masque of the Red Death, anyone?

        • Ellie

          You have found out my secret fantasy about Mar-a-Lago.

          • Hiss

            But can you imagine being holed up with Trump? Death would be preferable.

    • Darlene Underdahl

      Yep. We’ve been watching Hitler programs (I never cared for them before Trump), but even practicing eugenics, defective babies were born because the cause varied. Nature is complicated.

  • Dutchman

    I read that there would be canned meat and poultry so by extrapolation it is assumed that there will be canned clams. No?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/17b10086f796a3370a3d4d4e075466a444860aab27702e8a0a6e225f4bd8056e.jpg

    • calliecallie

      YOU MONSTER!!!1!1!

    • DainBramage

      When will the cruelty end?

      • gnomemansanisland

        Not for a while. The cruelty is still new.

      • Jeffery Campbell

        It never will while these fucks are in charge. Cruelty first, cruelty last, cruelty always.

        • Occupied Shithole of Kavefish

          What about **between** last and always? Still Cruelty?

          • Jeffery Campbell

            Non-stop cruelty. It a wonder they have to collude with the Ruskies.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Nope.

      For some reason, Donald Trump can’t resist sticking his hands in every can.

    • Jeffery Campbell

      You, sir, are a monster.

  • memzilla Ω

    Dicks gotta be Dickensian.

    • Harry Nuggets

      Donnie’s the Artful (Artless) Dodger.

  • Kiri the Unicorn

    “Your donation actually does entitle you to dictate our diet!”

    I send Wonkette $10 out of each paycheck, but I don’t think I can convince Dok to come eat grass with me.

    • TJ Barke

      Oregon grass is mineral deficient, I hope you’re getting trace supplements.

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        Yes I am, and it’s sweet of you to be concerned!

        • TJ Barke

          I don’t want you to get laminitis.

  • Scooby

    Now, if Jose Andres was making up the packages I could get behind it.

  • Longstreet63

    Next, the new Trump Administration’s proposal to reform welfare, provide job training, and strengthen the military: galley slavery!
    Not slavery, of course, just “work requirements”.
    After all, slaves don’t have to pay for their food, water, and seating. Plus administration fees, of course.

  • puredog

    Holy mackerel might be a good addition to these food boxes. In other news, Jim Bakker to apply for a grant to supply “food” buckets to the poors in 3 — 2 — 1. . .

  • Meals on Wheels is one of our charities. My dad, who was not a particularly empathetic person in many respects, drove for them. People in a society which throws a significant amount of food away should not have nutritional diseases. This is not a complicated question.

  • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler
  • MynameisBlarney
  • TJ Barke
    • Indiepalin

      And stealing peoples’ mail

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    “. . . or maybe just tell everyone in Montana, say, to drive to Bozeman to pick up their monthly supplies.”

    Too true. c. 2012, the Idaho Department of Health & Welfare undertook a program to “consolidate services.” This was a euphemism for “closing offices in rural counties.” Making poor people drive 60 miles to sign up for food stamps was a great way to lift people out of poverty. The number of Idahoans receiving government transfer payments dropped appreciably.

    • doktorzoom

      Problem solved!

  • gnomemansanisland

    Well at least they ditched the “food camps” idea whereby poors would be herded into camps and fed moldy bread and water once a day.

  • Edith Prickly, Stable Genius

    It’s an attempt to throw Food Stamp recipients out the Overton Window, because hasn’t every wingnut said “Those people should get a monthly shipment of beans and rice and make do with that”? It’s not going to happen this year, but it’s definitely intended to make boxes of Freedom Food an official part of the discussion about Those People.

    These are the same people who thought Michelle Obama was being a nanny-state tyrant when she suggested it might be a good idea to eat vegetables once in a while.

    • doktorzoom

      Yeah, but that was for all kids, not just for poors. Ergo, tyrannical.

      • Catstro, Very Stable Girther

        Also, uppity blackity black

        • Villago Delenda Est

          The decisive factor in all this.

  • TJ Barke

    Now’s a great time to get into the artisanal guillotine business.

    • gnomemansanisland

      Axes

      • TJ Barke

        Pitchfork, torch and tumbrel futures are way up.

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Fire. Less post-process waste.

  • Squeegee

    Trump’s trillion dollar infrastructure plan and now this blue apron style welfare plan is going to be a huge payout to businesses with Republican connections with rampant corruption and graft and bribes and cost overruns and missing money and so on.
    After Trump gets booted from office it is going to be a massive investigation into all the corruption and graft and bribery with white collar criminals going to jail for their crimes.
    If you are a law student in law school it is a great time to go into white collar criminal law after graduation as there is going to be a huge demand for it going forward!!!!

    • georgiaburning

      Work on getting your German language skills to the B1 level, just in case.

    • Toomush Stability

      You are so funny! “white collar criminals going to jail for their crimes”. Comic genius! Where do you get your ideas?…

      • Squeegee

        They will go to prison and pay hefty fines under a Democratic administration

  • BreakingDeadMen

    If Chris Clizza and Maggie NYT had a baby, it would turn into IF Stone as a teenager

  • Jeffocaster in the West

    I volunteer at a food bank and I can tell you we are seeing an uptick in clients. Thanks Rethuglicans for making us a popular spot in our community.
    (In other words, you all are fuckfaces)

    • Ellie

      I donate on a semi regular basis to the food pantry where my daughter goes (that way I sort of get to help feed her without her being embarrassed by help from mother). It’s not much, but when I found out how much food each dollar could buy for the pantry, I was appalled that I hadn’t been doing it sooner.

      • Nenatopia

        My local food shelf has a “Meal a Month” thing where they automatically take monthly donations. $10 a month provides about 500 meals a year.

  • Indiepalin

    What the liberal press isn’t telling you about these so-called food boxes is that the boxes that the food will come in will be edible! The box material will be made out of reprocessed Billy Jack Dog Food. The dog food Billy Jack likes.

    • msanthropesmr

      In this world you truly are on your own.

      Eat flaming death fascist media pigs!

  • Occupied Shithole of Kavefish

    Okay, if we’re dealing with a Perdue what don’ do chicken, and a Murtaugh that is missing his Riggs, then we’re ***definitely*** in the bad alternate universe where there was never even the IDEA of Spock with a Beard.

    I would break things if I could afford to replace them…

  • data_ninja

    I’m sure that certain companies will win bids to package these meals with food that didn’t pass inspection. But with our inevitable lax rules on food inspection, means using saw dust and freeze dried raccoon parts to feed the poor.

  • gnomemansanisland

    When do the poor get to eat the rich?

    • TJ Barke

      When they finally wake up.

    • OutOfOrbit

      all yuh gotta do is go out & bag one, then light the grill

  • gnomemansanisland

    Mulvaney makes Ayn Rand look like Jesus.

    • Werewolf

      I really hate that I wish a slow, painful death (of natural causes) for that Little Rat-faced Git.

      • gnomemansanisland

        He’s wearing Lennon glasses now. Oh, the fucker.

  • Dutchman
    • BreakingDeadMen

      People who need Soylent Green are the luckiest people

  • This idea gets 10 Gohmerts (which equals 35 Cillizzas) for stupidity.

    • gnomemansanisland

      Fahrenheit or Celsius?

    • specialcircumstances

      I don’t like either of these scales

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        I award that comment 6 MoDos.

        • specialcircumstances

          Wait only 6? I’m mad, I think.

    • motmelere

      How does that convert into Gowdy-Doodies?

  • motmelere

    I grew up very poor (for an American) and can avow & aver that government cheese was a horribly failed food preservation experiment. Yes, call me an ungrateful jerk, but this adolescent food vacuum looked at that lump and asked, “You aren’t going to eat that, are you?”

    • tomamitai

      It was actually a program to support dairy prices by paying producers to take milk off the market by converting it to cheese. Funny how those farmers weren’t heaped with scorn the way the recipients of the cheese were.

      • doktorzoom

        Well, you see, the recipients were getting welfare.

        • DodgeDixie&Descartes

          I will say this for dairy surplus price supports… The cheese was awful, but in a world of margarine it was where I discovered butter. Then again similar programs were supporting tobacco prices — so where were all the free smokes?

          • motmelere

            My sister married a small-scale tobacco farmer, they still get checks to not grow any.

      • Toomush Stability

        This!…

  • Asterix

    Of all the stupid shit these assholes have come up with, this has to be the stupidest.

    Let’s just start bbq’ing the rich and be done with it.

    Not with votes.

    • OutOfOrbit

      i stand with you

  • calliecallie

    In this episode of Horrible Bosses, Perdue and Murtaugh find themselves unable to find anything to eat but rice and beans forever.

    Maybe it’s really Twilight Zone.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    To cut back on fuel costs on the food delivery, recipients will be required to push the truck to the next stop.

    • Nicholas

      They’ll be hitched to the front with some clever harnesses. And to save time, instead of delivering the meals the food will be provided in handy ‘feed-bag’ form. This promises huge gains in the buggy whip industry, which has, so far, languished in recent years due entirely to liberal nanny state regulations.

  • specialcircumstances

    I bet today is super fun at Blue Apron HQ

    • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

      “How quickly can we distance ourselves from this bullshit?”

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Let them eat Nutriloaf.

  • gnomemansanisland

    What about the stuff plants crave?

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Resistor Radio

      The lil seeing eye pupper made me LOL

  • cmd resistor

    A post about this floated through my FB page. Lots of mean comments on the original post about what a great idea this was because of all those takers. One person claimed she worked in a Family Dollar and people used their EBT cards to buy potato chips, soda, and steak (which someone else pointed out doesn’t seem to be a Family Dollar thing.) The group that posted the thing distributes fresh produce to senior citizens in rural N. Florida in a place where they’d be unable to buy it otherwise because food dessert.

    • Ellie

      No, some $ Stores sell very cheap steak. I have been told by someone who tried it, that they would much prefer ground anymeat to that steak.

      • cmd resistor

        I have seen it in Dollar Stores, although this said Family Dollar or Dollar General, but maybe she meant Dollar STore/Tree. They should be glad they are buying cheap meat, then. Those are pretty teeny.

        • Ellie

          I’m afraid I get them mixed up. There are three different ones all within 2 miles of my home.

          • Marion in Savannah

            Here too. They’re cropping up like mushrooms after a rain.

          • theblackdog

            Doesn’t help that Family Dollar is owned by Dollar Tree

          • Ellie

            I didn’t know that!

          • theblackdog

            Yeah I remembered at some point one of them was buying the other and according to Wikipedia, Dollar Tree bought them in 2014: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Dollar

          • Ellie

            Interesting. Well, even on a day full of depressing news, I learned something, so I’ll count it as a good day.

      • Lady Alexandra

        And if you really watch sales and go to the store regularly, once or twice a year you can get an actual real cut of steak for the price of hamburger, if you’re able to devote time and energy to that kind of thing.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      Every single person I know who works in a Dollar Store is, themselves, quite poor, and often not well educated, and it is quite possible that they earn just enough to be above the Medicaid/SNAP income cut-off level, so this could be a case of jealousy.

  • Bub, Secret Society zombie
    • MynameisBlarney

      Turmp shoulda been tweeting, just sayin.

      • Harry Nuggets

        Hope the bear is a safe driver, if not this could turn out to be his own private Vietnam.

    • Ellie

      Hands are too big.

    • gnomemansanisland

      Fake news. Trump doesn’t look like he’s enjoying it.

      • satanscheerleadersloveamerica

        at this point he is not. it was good for a while though.

    • mardam422

      What? No reacharound?

      • mike stone

        There has to be something to reach for.

  • georgiaburning

    This is one of the few societies ever where poor people die of obesity. A weekly Box-O-Calories will not fix that.

    • Calli Arcale

      Wait until someone realizes that Crisco is about the cheapest calories per dollar you can get — and it’s shelf stable, too!

      • georgiaburning

        Doesn’t it cure baldness, too?

  • ralphteb

    Why not just go straight for the soylent green? Kill two poors with one stone

    • Ellie

      A Modest Proposal?

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Republican theory in action: SNAP is bad, let’s make things worse.

    • georgiaburning

      See, government doesn’t work. They prove it every time they run things

      • Resistor Radio

        It’s the “look at what you made me do” philosophy of government.

  • Martini A, very stable genius

    If people wanted control over what they ate, they would have better sense than to be born poor in Trump’s America. All the cool kids are being born to rich real estate grifting moguls, so I’m told.

  • susan_g

    In its final form, the box will consist of a bag of dirt and some seeds. There you go, poors.

    • Toomush Stability

      And a can of Brawndo…

      • mardam422

        It’s got what plants crave.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    If they really want to be a Hitler, send the work-shy to the camps.

  • grindstone

    Wasn’t the SNAP program in its current incarnation supposed to be an improvement on the old paper food stamp program because of the high black market on paper food stamps? Won’t there now be a secondary or black market on this food?

    • Dutchman

      Of course, there always was before. Grifters gotta grift.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      Yes. And imagine what will happen in states like Louisiana, where corruption is an accepted part of the system.

    • Calli Arcale

      I’ve heard people saying they totally approve of this because it’ll stop people buying food with SNAP and reselling it. Which seems to miss the point, unless the idea is to only give them food so incredibly awful it has no resale value whatsoever.

  • gnomemansanisland

    I hate when they heighten the contradictions.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Make the pie higher!

  • Scooby

    Can’t we just give them guns so they can hunt?

    • Ellie

      Each other? Decreasing the surplus population.

    • chazmanr

      Members of the Trump administration?

    • TJ Barke

      Hunt what? Crows and pigeons? In kochmerica there will be no more public land on which to hunt.

    • mardam422

      You overlook the fact that, in Republican minds, these people are blah. Can’t be havin’ no blahs carryin’ guns, nosirree.

  • Garbageman

    Sonny Perdue is a former governor of Georgia, where I used to live. I can guarantee that nothing good is ever likely to come from his office. This seems like something that would be about his speed . . .

  • msanthropesmr

    We can send C rations and watch people fight over the fruit cocktail

    • Darlene Underdahl

      You don’t get fruit cup?

      • Jamoche

        Gotta use up that subsidized corn syrup somehow.

    • Calli Arcale

      My grandpa had a war story he liked to tell about his C rations. He served in the Third Army during WWII. One day, they were encamped somewhere in France. Every now and again, they’d see beggars; this part of the country had been torn to bits by the fighting, and a lot of the civilians were pretty desperate. They were under orders not to give anything to the beggars, as they represented a security risk. (Giving candy to children was allowed, as long as it wasn’t near camp, because it encouraged them to like the soldiers.) He understood this.

      But this one day, a little girl showed up, and she stared at my grandpa while he opened his rations. She was desperately thin and clearly starving. He didn’t have a heart of stone; he could do nothing but give her the food.

      His commanding officer saw this and came over, furious. He told my grandpa he’d be court-martialed if he let her eat the ration. So my grandpa pulled out his service revolver, laid it on a tree stump, and said, “Okay. But she finishes the food first.”

      They watched the little girl as she practically inhaled the food, the same food they all had been bitterly complaining about. The officer commented, “Wow, she’s really hungry, isn’t she?” When she was done, she vanished into the countryside. They never saw her again, and no one said another word about it to my grandfather for the rest of the war.

      I remember that story every time someone mentions C rations.

  • MynameisBlarney
    • cmd resistor
      • MynameisBlarney

        Can’t tell if that kitteh is happy, or plotting its humans demise.

        • cmd resistor

          Could easily be both.

          • MynameisBlarney

            True, because, cat.

          • theblackdog

            Those eyes seem to spell murder by cuddles, AKA “I’m sleeping on your neck tonight”

          • cmd resistor

            And perhaps using your neck to sharpen my claws.

        • Marion in Savannah

          If I tried that with mine I’d probably bleed out before Mr. MinS could get me to the hospital. Either that or they’d just tear out my throat while I slept.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          The trick here is to tell the cat “I don’t want to do this, it isn’t my idea, it’s the vet’s idea, and I told her you wouldn’t put up with it” and then they immediately want to prove you wrong by liking it. NOTE: This isn’t a foolproof method.

        • SomeBigRedDog

          It’s the same thing.

  • cmd resistor

    This makes me remember way back when I was a kid. My mom (republican but not mean) used to pick up government surplus food and deliver it to recipients. I don’t really remember the details of why. I’m guessing now because the people didn’t have cars or a way to go get the stuff? I also have no idea how she got hooked up to do this but it would have had to be through the church somehow. Back in those days not all republicans were selfish pigs at least. And I’m glad in retrospect she dragged me along because I was exposed to less fortunate folks and taught that it was a good thing to help them out. I also remember her talking about her dad standing in line to get government food, probably during the depression, and hating having to do it. But anyhow those are very vague recollections. I can visualize this one house in particular. Sometimes we’d wait in the car, sometimes go inside. I think the family was named Clark.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    “This is a box of shit!”
    “But it’s really great shit, Mrs. Presky!”

    • mardam422

      And it’s American shit, too!! 100% all-American shit.

      • Marion in Savannah

        And the portions are big!

      • Lord Jim

        Festooned with All-American Corn Nuts™. I mean, how much more nutrition do you want?

  • Proud Liberal

    “In 2006, Perdue’s financial disclosure forms revealed that he had a net worth of approximately $6 million and received compensation of $700,000 that year.”

    • Lord Jim

      “Let them eat cake.”

  • DodgeDixie&Descartes

    The Return of the Son of Government Cheese. Perhaps next year Der Donald will dream up a new way to package Dustbowl migrant camps to solve homelessness.

    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      Paging Sheriff Joe, you are wanted on line 2.

    • TootsStansbury

      Well , theyre kicking out all the browns who helpfully harvest our food. Them crops ain’t gonna pick themselves. Winning!

    • cmd resistor

      I have read in the past few days that it was good and bad.

  • Zombishroom

    Non-starter. Wikipedia says overall 18% of the food benefits money is spent at Walmart. You can’t piss off the Waltons.

    • theblackdog

      100% of it by their workers.

      • 1943hduff

        Exactly!!

  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

    My store bought burrito had a chunk of cardboard in it today.

    • TheGrandWazoo2

      Extra fiber!

    • eyelashviper

      Check it for bugs, extra protein and vitamin B.

  • gnomemansanisland

    Meanwhile our defense establishment is spending spare change on Filipino hookers and Colombian blow.

  • MynameisBlarney

    PA Gov tells state GOP to shove their latest proposed map right up their bungholes.

    https://twitter.com/GovernorsOffice/status/963452754898444288

    • notanncoulter

      apparently there is a sub-genre of sex addict that involves chickens. it seems to be an especially virile strain in my home state of PA.

      • Nockular cavity

        Hey, that chicken isn’t going to keep fucking itself.

    • Cornelius Fussbudget

      Ah, the good old “I know you are but what am I” defense. Well played, Wolf. Well played.

      • MynameisBlarney

        If he’s read the Art of War, he’ll know that the “I’m rubber your glue” tactic is the next step.

        • Cornelius Fussbudget

          Ah yes, only to be countered by Sun Tzu’s most famous gambit, “what bounces off me sticks to you”.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Always nice to see another well read person on these here interwebs.

  • chazmanr

    “and are not just elevated veterinarians like Perdue (despite the name, he’s not related to the chicken-business Perdues)”

    Well, there goes my comment about corn, soybeans and marigolds being good enough for his chickens so they ought to be good enough for the poors.

    • Old town Urbandale

      Sonny’s not from the chicken-processing Perdues, but from the chicken-fucking Perdues.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    The Washington Post announced the hiring of Megan McArglebargle. Because democracy dies in increments.

    • Rick Hill

      This’ll hurry it along…

  • msanthropesmr

    40.2% of SNAP recipients are white.

    • tomamitai

      “Three-quarters of those [SNAP recipient] households included a child, an elderly person or someone with a disability.”
      https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/28/food-stamp-demographics_n_6771938.html

    • Lord Jim

      And most of them were probably Trump voters – because the govt needs to stop supporting those damn ni**ers.

    • Sonja

      And most of their food stamps are spent at Walmart. This is a subsidy that Republican corporate donors will not let disappear, as they are the actual recipients.

    • Nenatopia

      And the vast majority of SNAP recipients who are working age and able to work are in fact working.

  • mardam422

    Are there no workhouses??!??!?!

    • Rick Hill

      Are there no soylent conversion factories?

      • LeighBowery’sLuxuryComedy

        Not yet.

    • Ellie

      Not yet.

      • Calli Arcale

        Actually, there are. While in prison, you can work on prison details for pitifully tiny wages — and although debtors prisons are technically illegal in America, it turns out there is one kind of debt you absolutely can be jailed for — debt to the court. So now imagine, if you will, a woman living on assistance. One day, she parks illegally. Her car gets ticketed and towed. She can’t afford the ticket, nor can she afford the impound fees since she’s already rationing her food and is behind on rent, so she loses her car. She thinks the car being auctioned off has wiped out the ticket, but she’s wrong; it only covered the impound fees. County sends her a court summons for the unpaid ticket. But there is no bus service between her apartment and the courthouse. (That’s not hypothetical; if I wanted to take a bus between my house and my county courthouse, I would need to go via the nearest major city and bring a sleeping bag, since it would involve an overnight stay somewhere. And I live in a major metropolitan area with a lot of lower income residents.) So she is physically unable to make it to the court date. There is nothing she can do about it; she tries to get on with her life. Court rules against her in absentia; now the fee is larger. New fee arrives in her mailbox; they could as well be asking her to bicycle to the moon, so she ignores it and goes to work. Now her commute takes about two hours because it’s on foot; she’s losing a dangerous amount of weight, and she knows her landlord’s patience won’t last forever. But turns out that part won’t matter; one day, a coworker has found out about her situation and is giving her a ride home from work. The coworker is speeding and a cop pulls them over. He asks for everybody’s license, not just the driver, and runs all their names. (Why yes, our hypothetical woman is black, how did you guess?) He finds that since she still has not paid her fine, there is an outstanding warrant for her arrest. After ticketing the good samaritan, he arrests the woman. She goes to jail. She is still on the hook for the original parking ticket, plus late penalties and court costs, and by now she has certainly lost her job waiting tables at a crappy restaurant in a state with a tipped minimum wage. Her only option is to work one of the prison jobs, for an even lower wage, but only as long as she has “good behavior”, which can mean anything the guards want it to, realistically speaking. Oh, and remember those news stories about the cost of feminine hygiene supplies in prison? Yeah, she’s having to buy her own pads, since they didn’t let her go home to collect her cup (which pretty soon will likely be thrown out by her landlord along with all of her belongings when he realizes she’s not gonna make rent anytime in the forseeable future), and the salary she makes barely covers anything like a reasonable supply. So she’s gonna be in jail, working off that debt to the state, for a long time…..

        Yeah, we have workhouses. We just don’t call them that. :-(

    • RobGinChicago

      Yes, they’re called for profit prisons.

  • Rick Hill

    My disgust/hatred/disgust at these people cannot grow anymore than it is now. It is, rather, like an ever burning fire that occasionally has gasoline thrown on it

    • Wonky “TurnipShepherd” McGoo

      i did actually lose my shit the other day at a trump supporter in real life. not directly at him, because that doesn’t do any good, which is part of the problem, it’s like screaming at oatmeal. his ears are so full of stupid he can’t hear me. i just ended up slamming doors and shouting incoherently for a while, it was really embarrassing.

      • Lord Jim

        “his ears are so full of stupid he can’t hear me.”

        That may be the most apt description of the problem I’ve ever heard.

        • Gosala

          It is good. I liked the “screaming at oatmeal” also too.

          • Wonky “TurnipShepherd” McGoo

            thank you

          • Gosala

            My pleasure.

  • BigCSouthside

    If you look at stock price and earnings, Blue Apron is not even that great at delivering meals “Blue Apron-style” and they fucking invented the model. So republicans are like “let’s give the government a crack at that”?!

  • Johnatx

    Jesus. I have no snark for this. This is basically killing off people.

    • Lord Jim

      Brought to you by the party that is destroying the ACA, the result of which is people dying because they can’t afford treatment. They’re already killing people.

    • Longstreet63

      Not quite. Sure, they don’t mind if a few people die, but the real point is that they think the vast majority of recipients are cheats, living it up from their taxes. It’s better to punish the innocent than for the guilty to go free, according to them.
      They also think the vast majority are, shall we say, of a particular race, which is totally coincidental.
      Bucks buying T-bones and welfare queens in Cadillacs.

  • 1943hduff

    Why not ask the folks in Kansas how well the Brownback plan worked out BEFORE trying this

    “Secretary Perdue wanted to give it a chance,” he said. “We thought it was a tremendous idea.”

    • TootsStansbury

      I think breaking the nation is the point though. They’re out to wreck the whole thing and harvest the spoils.

      • Lord Jim

        Soylent Green is people.

      • 1943hduff

        Exactly!!!

      • RobGinChicago

        Puerto Rico FEMA efforts are a test case. Drive the natives out, and the foreclosing banks will sell to resort developers.

  • An Outhouse for the résistance

    One viral video on Facebook showing someone selling their government cheese to buy heroin and that will be the end of this program.

    • Toomush Stability

      At least until the oligarchy controls all the heroin…

      • Somsai Resist

        You saying they don’t?

    • Longstreet63

      Project Veritas to the rescue!

  • Anyone who claims they loved government cheese didn’t have to eat it all the time.

    If the government wanted to give a box to people as an addition to food stamps, that’s fine. It’s almost like WIC. However, giving them a box of carbs in place of food stamps is stupid! I, for one, don’t mind people eating steaks, lobster, or whatever meats they want on food stamps. At least it isn’t increasing blood sugar/diabetes like canned sugar juices, pasta, or canned corn.

    Remember when people were all butt hurt because Michelle Obama wanted kids to eat vegetables in school? Well this is fine, because the government wants you to eat processed shit instead!

    • Marion in Savannah

      But don’t Republicans own the companies that turn food into shit? So it’s a real win-win for them.

    • starfanglednut

      I spent some time on an Indian reservation, where the system was similar to this proposal. People basically got a box of shitty, unhealthy food once a month. Diabetes (with a lack of medical care resulting in an extremely high rate of amputations) poor nutrition (including of course children) and depression were rampant.

      • Gosala

        A friend of mine ran a soup kitchen briefly. He described the attitude as, “You are shit; you get shit. ”

        He also noted the attitude was strongest among the almost poor.

        • Cornelius Fussbudget

          Shit rolls down hill.

    • RobGinChicago
      • Somsai Resist

        # 1 no way ima eat that.
        # 2 MAGA, mission accomplished . He Grates on me every day.

    • Ronnie McDonald

      But there is this weird wrinkle in the mix as well. If Donnie were to with a straight face say he saw nothing wrong with eating crap day in day out he wouldn’t be lying. Plus he also thinks exercising will run down your battery. So I don’t know what’s worse hypocrisy or believing in the absurd.

  • Nockular cavity

    Hot tip: go long on hobo beans.

  • jodyleek

    “costly, inefficient, stigmatizing, and prone to failure.”
    Well, that’s the idea, isn’t it? They will try this ridiculous scheme and when it doesn’t work, they will say, see, government is the worst! and scuttle it but not replace it with anything else to fill the gaping holes in peoples’ bellies.

  • irish379

    We were a low income family in the early 60’s, I remember getting USDA surplus food.It was terrible and humiliating.

    • Toomush Stability

      So it was successful, then?…

      • irish379

        You can go Fuck Yourself, try growing up poor and being looked down on by your classmates at school, wearing second-hand clothes and being laughed at and made fun of , you smarmey shit

    • cmd resistor

      So, was it actually surplus or also a way for someone to make a profit like this would be? I know they CALLED it surplus food.

      • irish379

        The cans and boxes were all marked USDA Surplus

        • cmd resistor

          They always said it was and up until reading about this stuff in the past few days and thinking about grifty private businesses making money off it, I started to wonder. I was a kid in the days of that program with no apparent reason to assume the government was lying to us, even if it was.

    • Wonky “TurnipShepherd” McGoo

      that was still around in the 80s. i remember the beef. it was humiliating, but the quality wasn’t awful – better than what you can get at the expired-food grocery store for poor people. i still like the design of the can, it was black and white and just had an icon of a cow, it was a little Soviet.

      • irish379

        the powdered milk tasted like chalk

        • Rebel Scum Puipui

          The cheese was horrifying. There’s a reason people still talk about government cheese; it haunts our fucking nightmares with its awful, awful taste.

        • Wonky “TurnipShepherd” McGoo

          ha! that stuff is awful. it’s fine in baking or even smoothies, but put it in your kids’ cereal once and they’ll never forgive you.

    • VirginiaHighFiber

      You have to be really hungry to be in a food line. Parents feel like failures and the kids get teased at school. It sucks to be poor.

    • Hemp Dogbane

      My Aunt & Uncle & cousins lost their home & all farm buildings in the Tracy Tornado of June 1968. I remember seeing the 5 lb. can of ketchup they got as part of food aid afterward and my 11 yo brain thinking “Hmmm…”

      • Marion in Savannah

        Well, hadn’t ketchup been declared to be a vegetable by then? See — you got vegetables!

  • ChumpsForTrump

    I wonder what “donor” (grifter) will get paid 100x the going rate to “manage” (have nothing to do with) the food distribution?

  • NastyBossetti

    This covers but a tiny portion of the questions to be asked about this stupid idea:
    https://twitter.com/AnnieLowrey/status/963427645374517249

    • Marion in Savannah

      One answer for all of the above: “Well, buttercup, I guess you’re just shit outta luck.”

      • Ellie

        Or, I’ve got mine Jack, now root hog, or die.

      • Longstreet63

        The intended answer is “Get a job, looser!”*

        *intentional misspelling.

        • Lord Jim

          *intentional misspelling””

          An often-overlooked point. +1

        • I’ve seen that exact answer on every single Twitter thread about this that I’ve looked at today.

    • eyelashviper

      Get yer bootstraps on and stop yer librul whining…/s

    • OneYieldRegular

      What if you’re really really struggling and you’re not exactly keen on wanting your nosy neighbors to know that by your having to accept delivery of a weekly box labeled “CHEAP GOVERNMENT FOOD FOR POORS.”

      • Nenatopia

        It’s your own damned fault for being a poor. Suck it up, buttercup.

    • Gayer Than Thou

      What if it’s gone bad when it arrives? What if it tastes gross? What if your kids won’t eat it? What if someone steals it? Oy.

    • KenTFM

      Answer (to all of the above):

      Hey, if you weren’t poor and broke we would not have to be hauling this shitty grab bag to whatever hovel you call home so eat your government cheese and quit your bitchin’

      /sarc/

    • FinnishMasseuse

      please advise next president’s administration if you are available to work on food problems in USA. please. How refreshing to read someone’s very smart mind working so casually. Love you.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Back in the day my parents would say “clean your plate, there’s people starving in China”. Tomorrow’s parents will say “clean your plate, there’s people starving across the street”.

    • Wonky “TurnipShepherd” McGoo

      there were then, too :(

  • TrumpFood — It’s not just bad for the poors (but for grocery stores, their employees, local farmers, medical costs — which will skyrocket on account of vast numbers of people who will never again eat fresh fruit — etc. Just the gift that will keep on giving, like the clap.

  • TootsStansbury

    Now THIS is worthy of being called a “Shithole Country”.

  • 1943hduff

    How about we start with this. When The “Blue Apron Style” is the main fare in the Congressional and WH cafeteria’s then let’s give it a try in all the Republican statehouse cafeterias. Then let’s reduce the Congress members daily meals allotment to the number that would equal a “Blue Apron Style” daily percent.

    • LeighBowery’sLuxuryComedy

      Come the revolution (shut up), all new social service programs MUST be tested on Congress first.

  • Gosala

    Eh… doesn’t go far enough, and it’s to complicated. The gummit’s sure to fuck it up.

    Just send ’em a check for, oh say, $1,000 a month and be done with it.

    • CripesAmighty

      But that fails the primary mission of the proposal : gratuitous humiliation.

  • Poly_Ester

    Why waste money delivering meals when there is probably a McDonald’s nearby?

    • eyelashviper

      Dollar General,also too.

    • Lord Jim

      Requiring people to spend their EBT funds at McDonald’s would probably make more sense than this fuckbonkers proposal.

  • Zippy W Pinhead
  • Sonja

    Don’t worry, this will never happen. For example, half of all food stamps in Oklahoma are spent at Walmart. SNAP is a corporate subsidy, like everything else, and Walmart will never let it go away.

    • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

      Agribusiness also, too. Perdue should know that.

  • Jack Has a Memo!!!!

    1.3% fraud rate with SNAP. This is another republican solution in search of a problem.

  • VirginiaHighFiber

    Back in the day, my family got a USDA food assistance box through the food bank. On average, every month you got the following: 1 box of spaghetti, 1 small can tomato sauce, 1 can mixed veggies with no salt, 1 can of beets (yes I’m serious), 1 can cranberry sauce, 1 bottle unsweetened grapefruit juice, 1 jar creamy peanut butter, one cylinder of oatmeal, a big bag of raisins, and a frozen lump of meat like lamb or turkey parts. For a family. For one month. No eggs or dairy, nothing fresh or green. That’s what they will expand the program with. Food that was stockpiled that no one else wanted. Poverty war surplus food.
    Fin

    • eyelashviper

      It almost seems that the intent is to make people sick, and to dehumanize them..
      Choices and fresh veggies and fruit are for the elites, apparently.

      • VirginiaHighFiber

        So is privacy. No public shaming for them who has de muniez!

    • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

      I’d already thought of the problems with peanut butter (life-threatening allergy) and carbs for diabetics, but DAMN grapefruit juice — interferes with many medications. Sounds like they were/are actively trying to kill people.

  • Wookie Monster

    “Somewhere, Chris Cillizza could be heard typing up a draft of a column declaring that even if it’s a terrible idea, it demonstrates the administration’s willingness to try new things and shake up the paradigm.”

    Complete with the required twenty references to Hillary’s emails.

    • NastyBossetti

      I actually checked twitter to see if he’d posted anything on it yet. He hadn’t, but it’s been a little while now, so who knows?

  • Jack Has a Memo!!!!

    Another hellscape has formed. Retailers will be forced into layoffs and cutting hours. Unemployment will soar. More people will need government assistance. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.

    I am no expert but even I can see how colossally bad of an idea this really is.

    • Rick Hill

      “I am no expert ”

      Obviously. You cannot understand how a few people will benefit greatly by the suffering of a multitude

      • Jack Has a Memo!!!!

        Nor would I want to.

  • Hemp Dogbane

    Perdue’s other idea is a program to give farmers a tax credit when they buy oats for their horses. He predicts productivity of horse teams pulling plows and cultivators will increase 10%.

  • FrozenTootsies

    And of course some very well-connected company will get the government contract to produce and ship the boxes – at a fine profit.

    • Snowbound Ron

      ‘The good news is, you’re getting $200 in free food! The bad news is, 3/4 of that is to cover shipping and handling.’

  • Wookie Monster

    Just the logistics of packing and shipping all the food alone sounds like a nightmare of inefficiency.

    Who wants to bet Purdue has some buddies who run a three man operation that’s ready to bid on the contract to handle it?

    • “Unpresidented” Linda

      Yep. This is another one of those things that will never happen. Much like The Wall.

  • Marion in Savannah

    Charlie Pierce has some thoughts. The last graf:

    You know what this budget is good for? It’s good for scaring powerless people. That’s not a job for a president. That’s not a job for a mature democracy. Hell, it’s not even a job for grown-ups.

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a17598724/trump-budget-cut-social-safety-net/

    • Hemp Dogbane

      It sounds like something the Russians did in 1965.

    • Peripatetic Poltroon

      Maybe it’ll scare them enough to vote.

  • Wonky “TurnipShepherd” McGoo

    it seems like this is just being floated to make whatever actual plan plops down seem tolerable by comparison. i don’t look forward to this plan.

    • Opalescent Riddles

      It’s the “door in the face technique” the child’s version of which is ask for a pony when you really want a bike.

  • Opalescent Riddles

    Tiffany Brown isn’t doing anything right now, since FEMA cancelled her contract. This sounds right up her alley. What could go wrong? More on that here: https://wonkette.com/629406/sorry-puerto-rico-that-fema-thought-this-one-lady-could-make-you-30-million-hot-meals

  • Hemp Dogbane
  • BoatOfVelociraptors

    Koku desu ka?

  • OneYieldRegular

    Gosh, I wonder if Sonny Purdue has any friends in the agribusiness/food service industry itching for a gigantic government contract to provide cheap shitty food for poor people and charge a fortune for doing it.

    • “Unpresidented” Linda

      Yeah… I wonder…

    • Bitter Scribe

      It’s not just him. The whole damn USDA has a mission to market cheese and corn and meat (made from animals fed with corn) and anything else American farmers produce in excess, no matter how unhealthy it is. Part of this is palming it off on food-insecure people.

      I wouldn’t mind this so much if it didn’t blatantly conflict with their other mission of promoting good nutrition. This is why their food pyramids are so fucked up. Nutrition should be under the purview of HHS or some other department that has consumer interests at heart, at least in theory.

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    Wow. The Taint maladministration is not just stupid, it is aggressively ignorant as well.

    • Lord Jim

      You’re more likely not to know shit when you don’t care.

  • the vast majority of those shallow wannabe Ayn Rand disciples are going to be in for an unpleasant surprise once they realize that they are the takers and therefore utterly expendable.

    • “Unpresidented” Linda

      They’ll never realize that.

      • true. and even if they should run out of scapegoats, they just turn on each other.

        • “Unpresidented” Linda

          This whole thing is designed to create a permanent underclass/enemy.

          • time-honored tradition also, too.

          • Peripatetic Poltroon

            The history of the human race. You’d almost think people *need* overlings.

  • Zyxomma

    Fuck this shit. I use my EBT card the same way I use my money: I buy organic fruit and vegetables. I don’t eat ANYTHING animal, and haven’t for decades. Fuck this.

    • Lord Jim

      Hey, you can still eat the box it comes in, right? :/

      • Zyxomma

        I doubt it. I’m sure it will be plastic.

        • CripesAmighty

          Bon appetit !

    • Bitter Scribe

      And of course if you buy anything that’s more expensive than average, you get more money for that month, right?

      What? You don’t? You mean you get the same amount of money whether or not you buy organic produce or steak or anything else Stuart Varney thinks you shouldn’t? Why, it’s almost as if he’s a vindictive asshole who has nothing to complain about and no idea what he’s blathering about.

      • Tennessee Rain Genius

        OMG – I’ve seen people make that stupid “steak and lobster” argument. It’s disgusting. And also too, it’s exhausting trying to explain to those morons how a poor person can become obese.

        • Ellie

          Steak and lobster and beer and cigarettes, is what I’ve heard, and all the facts in the world will not make a dent in what they prefer to believe.

          • “Unpresidented” Linda

            And they drove up in a new Cadillac.

          • Shawn Charniga

            She was actually a real person. I’ll say that again: SHE was ONE real person. But because of one bad apple, millions have gone hungry because Ray-Gun needed to run against black people.

        • “Unpresidented” Linda

          And you cannot convince them otherwise. They love that lie so bad that they’ll completely ignore fact to cling to it.

          Thanks, Reagan! Your lies about “welfare queens” made this all possible!

  • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

    Well, I’d like to go to that job interview but I have to stay home and wait for my SNAP box to be delivered.

    • “Unpresidented” Linda

      And now the cons will have a hissy because the food is being delivered to them! Like they’re all kings or something!

      • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

        This, too! I get enough SNAP benefits to purchase about 3 gal of milk per month. I can now have them DELIVERED to my door? Sure, you ignorant fucks, that’ll save a LOT of money!

        • Peripatetic Poltroon

          Just deliver 36 gallons of “shelf stable milk” on Jan 2. And no bellyaching come October.

    • chortlingdingo

      And I’m sure they’d make it so if you weren’t home to sign for your box, you would just have to go without until next month.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    Hey, I’m all for efficiency in food distribution and consumption. Seriously, I am. But this just doesn’t seem efficient to me. Distributing food stamps, or food vouchers/credits of some kind, is VERY efficient. They weigh nothing, or virtually nothing. They can be sent by mail or printed out on a computer.

    What the government should initiate, and subsidize, is fresh-produce outlets in food deserts. You’d see virtually instant benefits in obesity and diabetes reduction, plus I’m sure other health benefits.

    Dammit, sometimes I wish I had any power at all to enact common-fucking-sense policies. I wish we all did. Any dozen people picked at random from the Wonketariat could come up with some pretty damn good solutions to persistent problems. I feel certain of this.

    • CripesAmighty

      That’s not the point. Gratuitous humiliation is.

      • Rick Hill

        And sending money upwards, always sending money to the wealthiest is the toppest priorities.

    • cmd resistor
      • Lance Thrustwell

        Yes! That’s a good point. Meals-on-wheels type programs are an essential part of addressing food-scarcity situations. Imagine what these folks could do with a budget of 50 million in a large urban center?

        • “Unpresidented” Linda

          MOW depends heavily on volunteers to deliver meals. I guess if we’re all gonna be unemployed, we’ll have a lot of time on our hands.

        • Shawn Charniga

          That is beginning to happen in Manhattan right now. After-school programs are serving as the hubs. This could be awesome.

    • doktorzoom

      They don’t weigh anything, either, apart from the one-time distribution of the EBT card. There haven’t been actual food stamps since the early Oughts.

    • Cornelius Fussbudget

      For ultimate efficiency, we can even grow the food right near where the recipient lives. Which, to be fair, is actually happening, as SNAP can be accepted at farmers markets in a lot of places nowadays.

      https://www.fns.usda.gov/ebt/snap-and-farmers-markets

      • starfanglednut

        Here in Boston a single person receiving EBT can get $40 per month of fresh fruit and vegetables from the farmers market for free. That amount goes up for larger households. It’s totally awesome. $40 buys quite a bit of fresh produce.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Having had to take my non-English speaking FIL to the food lines back in the day, I will tell you with 100% clarity This Is A Terrible Idea.

  • CripesAmighty

    Pure, unadulterated, malicious depravity.

  • Lefty Wright

    What’s wrong with this idea? Who wouldn’t love a breakfast of sliced Spam™, scrambled up dried egg product, and shelf stable milk?

    • mysonsam

      aka, farts in a box; see also, “the flavor of shame and despair”

  • RickyG

    “Holy mackerel?” Ha!
    A cursed tin of sardines, maybe.

  • BadKitty904
  • Let them eat gruel!

    • Snowbound Ron

      GOVERNMENT gruel.

  • BillEGoatSmirk

    What a truly vile idea. This is already the “menu” that we have at the food pantry I volunteer at. And at least we have relationships with local grocery stores and get a limited amount of produce and meat, and fresh milk comes every day. But folks can only come to our pantry once a month, so one package of ground turkey and 6 apples doesn’t exactly cover the nutritional spectrum. And most of our clients come because their SNAP benefits don’t even come close to lasting the whole month.

  • JDM

    Remember:

    A. Republicans are the party of personal freedom and small government.
    B. Republicans want the federal government to tell you what you can eat. Not what’s good for you that you should eat, but what you can eat.

    • cmd resistor

      Well, telling you what is good for you is SOCIALISM. (See, Michelle Obama.)

    • doktorzoom

      Not YOU — THEM

  • Vel Venturi

    Mmm, delicious cotton.

    • doktorzoom

      Try it with some chocolate!

      • Snowbound Ron

        Does everybody get a share?

  • Tetman Callis

    What do we expect from an administration whose president has the dietary habits of a ten-year-old?

    • Snowbound Ron

      When my daughters were ten, they were learning to cook at 4-H. The oldest still makes a mean baby spinach Caesar salad.

  • JD Mulvey

    I’m sure once they’ve identified a private contractor to get the billion-dollar contract to run this new program, we’ll surely see plenty of savings! And if we don’t, oh well, that’s just stuff that numbers nerds worry about anyway.

    • FinnishMasseuse

      and that guy will take advantage of the recent mega tax cuts, so there is that benefit.

      • JD Mulvey

        Totally MAGA!

  • Parakeetist

    Attention Republicans: you take food away from the poor. Stop calling yourselves Christians.

    • Widdle Kim

      Well….Rand has no problem reconciling Christian basic values with Ayn Rand. Which is like offering an open hand with your left and punching someone in the face with your right.

      • Peripatetic Poltroon

        IIRC, the Catholic Church did tell him to GTFO about that.

        • Widdle Kim

          His own brain should tell him to, that is if he’s not a schizophrenic.

    • Snowbound Ron

      I’ll allow it.
      – Republican Jesus

  • Teto85

    The rtards have forgotten their history lessons. This time French history, circa 1788-1793

    • Widdle Kim

      Or February 1917. St Petersburg. The real Russian Revolution. Before the Bolshies co-opted it.

    • Mavenmaven

      Can we talk of guillotining with votes or lining up against the wall with votes?

      • Peripatetic Poltroon

        Drown ’em in dangling chads.

      • Teto85

        FIFY.

      • Teto85

        Absolutely. I totally forgot. Guillotines and bullets to the heads. WITH VOTES!!!!!!

    • lunar62

      You left out the “e” but it’s still offensive. Try dropping that from your vocabulary. Mentally disabled people like my daughter would appreciate it.

      • 🍁 Secret Society Girl Guide 🍁

        I’ve got brain problems, and call myself that all the time. As well other disparaging remarks. I guess it’s different though, if someone’s saying it about someone else.

      • Teto85

        Nope. These are rtards. These people are willfully ignorant and malicious. You daughter is probably not. I don’t use those terms for people like her.

  • rg9rts

    now lets have them try to feed a family of four for a month

  • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

    Is “shelf stable milk” milk that doesn’t have to be refrigerated or is it milk stored on a shelf securely fastened to the wall?

    • “Unpresidented” Linda

      I’ll bet it’s powered. That’s what my granny got back in the day.

      • Snowbound Ron

        I grew up drinking that. Why I don’t loathe milk today I will never know.

        • 🍁 Secret Society Girl Guide 🍁

          I thought Canada sells milk in bags, eh.

          • Snowbound Ron

            Yup. But my parents were dead cheap in weird ways, and we had to drink powdered skim milk.

      • lunar62

        I wondered about that myself. It could come in aseptic cartons (like juice boxes) or be powered, which is awful.

        • “Unpresidented” Linda

          I have never tried the kind that doesn’t spoil, but you’re right. Powdered milk is awful. Even if you mix it half and half with real milk. Mom used to do that to make milk last. Yuck.

          • Bebecca

            Mine too. It was only marginally better than skim milk which was not even marginally better than water. I’d think you were my sister if I had a sister named Linda.

      • leslie

        powdered milk gets rid of tomato blight ……f.y.i

    • mysonsam

      It is likely milk that comes in a box that doesn’t have to refrigerated until after it’s open.

      It’s hyper pasteurized. “Gossner” is one brand (you can buy it at the dollar store), and Hershey’s produces it too.

      • Ellie

        Parmelat is the brand I know, and it is definitely NOT cheaper than regular milk, so I don’t quite get the point except then they could only give The Poors food and milk once a month, and forget about them the rest of the time.

        • mysonsam

          The point is that it’s cheap, nutritious and enables some asshole CEO to make bank on the contract he/she/it will score.

          It’s not actually bad, but the whole bidniss smacks of workhouse poor….

    • Ellie

      It is ultra high pasteurized milk that can stay on the shelf up to about 6 months, IIRC, and doesn’t need refrigeration until after it is opened.

      • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

        Thank goodness. We’ve got a dryer in the laundry room that’s been broke for over six months. I couldn’t see our maintenance man getting around to stabilizing the pantry shelves in over 25 apartments!

    • Peripatetic Poltroon

      that’s “stable shelf milk.” Common mistake.

  • Forrest Trump

    As long as the boxes are going to be made in Murica it’s all good.

    • Widdle Kim

      Yep, we’ve got to bring all those cardboard box jobs back home. This is one way to do it.

  • williams517

    I bet the first idea, before they came up with this brain fart, was to just send poor families $5 Mcdonald’s gift certificates once a month.

  • Mavenmaven

    Also, as part of this American made packaged food program, convince your elderly relatives to report to the local suicide center.

    • mysonsam

      Have eaten government cheese? It is despair in a box. I still can’t eat Velveeta (the box and taste is just to similar) all these years later.

      Eat enough of it and it is tantamount to forced suicide.

      • 🍁 Secret Society Girl Guide 🍁

        Veterinary suicide for human primates would be easier and more humane. The only downside (for Republicans) is that they don’t get to keep getting their rocks off by bullying poor people if the poor are dead.

      • leslie

        despair in a box…… me like.

  • Snowbound Ron

    ‘If you want a picture of the future, imagine people eating government cheese — forever.’

    • Courser_Resistance

      I’ve eaten government cheese on many occasions. it’s really not good for anything because it won’t melt. It just bubbles and burns.

      • Bebecca

        probably a cheese food product. Or like Malk on the Simpsons (made from recycled paper).

      • SnowBomber

        Back around 1990 (I think), a warehouse full of government cheese off of Cottage Grove Rd. burnt down in Madison. You could smell it for months when you drove by, even after they cleaned it up.

  • The good news is Walmart is against it, so it’s never going to get beyond the spitballing phase.

    • mysonsam

      Of course they’re against it! The Walton dynasty depends on the poorz spending their SNAP benefits with them.

      • Courser_Resistance

        And it’s the VERY SAME poorz who work for them! BONUS! Talk about a grift mill! Pay people too little for them to survive on, so Yay! the government gives them money for food, which they then spend at their workplace! It’s really just working for the Company Store.

        • mysonsam

          Right down to the anti union tactics.

          Fuck Wal-Mart….

        • BillEGoatSmirk

          Don’t forget the Wal-Mart employees doing food drives at Thanksgiving for their co-workers.

        • AuntyMaude

          Taxpayers subsidize the WalMart rich bitch/bastard family. We pay for the food stamps that their employees need to survive. It’s wealth redistribution from the bottom to the top. They seem to have no problem with that kind of wealth redistribution.

      • They benefit from the misery of the poor in many ways.

        • mysonsam

          Talk about a monopoly!

          Holy shit…
          capitalize on the desperation of the miserable
          exploit tax, labor, and workplace laws
          run off the competition
          pay too little (as well as provide to few hours) to live on
          sign the miserable slav err employees up for SNAP
          Remind them to shop here to save here
          close up when the race to the bottom is complete

      • leslie

        most of their employees rely on snap benefits.

    • Kateaux

      Christ, to be in a position where you’re looking to Walmart for salvation.

  • Shawn Charniga

    Rappelles toi Marie Antoinette.

    • leslie

      rappellez- vous l ‘ histoire de Marie Antoinette.

      • Shawn Charniga

        Merci!

  • mysonsam

    Why do these shit gibbons think that this will work any better now than it did for the Native Americans on their reservations, or for Puerto Rico?

    In fact, when has Government “help” (that is really thinly disguised corporate graft…) ever worked in the history of ever?

    • UnsaltedSinner

      It turns out that government rarely functions well when you leave it to be run by people who think government can’t do anything right.

      • mysonsam

        lol, no shit. because above all else the GOP needs to be right or at least “win”.

      • ResistanceFictionista blondeiq

        You know what they’re managing to do right? Micromanaging vaginas and uteruses. They seem to have got that one down.

    • ResistanceFictionista blondeiq

      Corporate graft AND shaming the poors. It’s a win-win!

  • OrdinaryJoe

    America does not die with a bang or a whimper but with the sound of a bit of loose change rattling around in the cash box.

  • UnsaltedSinner

    Annie Lowrey had some thoughts (about 60, in fact) about this.
    https://twitter.com/AnnieLowrey/status/963427645374517249

    • YaJagoff

      I suspect their blanket answer would be….Tuff shit, deal with it.

    • ResistanceFictionista blondeiq

      You should have thought of those things before you became poor.

    • MamaBrown

      Exactly. Poor people move around a lot. What if you don’t have transport? I keep envisioning an exhausted young mother with a baby in a stroller and a preschooler or two, on the bus, trying to get to some distribution center. How does she get the stuff home? What if you have a medical condition? Diabetes? What if you’re disabled? It horrific to contemplate.

  • Nenatopia

    Who do ya spose they’ll give the contract for these food boxes to? Perhaps Tribute Contracting – she doesn’t have much to do since her FEMA contract got cancelled.

    • Bebecca

      and I wonder if Sonny Perdue is of the Perdue chicken family? A chicken in every box probably. Is there such a thing as chicken spam?

    • kaydenpat

      Some grifting thief — someone like the orange bigot in the White House.

  • lunar62

    I watched Mick Mulvaney’s first press conference last year. He was preaching budget cuts with all the fervor of a Baptist at a church revival. He was positively glowing as he proposed cutting Meals on Wheels. He and Paul Ryan are two of the most evil people in Washington.

  • 🍁 Secret Society Girl Guide 🍁

    Semi OT: I’m now 0 for 8 (or 10, I lost count) on job applications, because employers seem to keep wanting to play musical chairs and hire “Internally” despite putting out offers in the paper and on the Indeed dot com website to cover their ass. I still would rather die than go on public assistance, and I will stick to that until the day I, well, die (hopefully sooner rather than later). But if Trump and his cronies are going to institute a “work requirement” like is being disastrously implemented in Neo-Dickensian Tory Britain, then they damn well better make sure there are jobs to be had (never mind the fact that most recipients are the working poor, but the jobless poor, like me, are either sick or don’t have any jobs available despite having applied over and over again to a dwindling number of positions, many of which are being given to robots). I’ve said this about UBI, it doesn’t go far enough in substituting for the meaning of existence that a job gives you. We need a New New Deal and a WPA/CCC. Or open up the damn Soylent Green clinics already and quit waffling. I’d be happy to dig ditches for peanuts. I don’t really care. I just want to feel like I’m useful. Being unemployed carries with it a dehumanizing stigma as it is. This program does nothing to alleviate that. It just makes people feel worse than they already do. Which I’m sure is the point.

    • Ellie

      It really sucks. There are many people out there who would be willing to take jobs if they were there! And yes, that’s exactly the point.

    • Bebecca

      You should be employed soon, what with all the jobs created by the tax cuts…. I feel for you and it really sucks.

    • MamaBrown

      I’m so sorry this is happening to you. I was job hunting a few years ago (something I never expected to happen at my advanced age–I was planning to tough it out at my awful job until retirement). Its a gut punch to face the rejection over and over. Its so hard to stay optimistic. Just hang in there. You are not alone. I hope things improve for you soon.

  • Royal Ugly Dude

    that would be “costly, inefficient, stigmatizing

    Yes, but they probably determined the “costly” and “inefficient” were a small price to pay for all that “stigmatizing.”

  • MamaBrown

    My dad worked for GE and they went on strike in the 60’s. All the guys on the line went down and signed up for welfare. We got $$ and surplus food. Some of it was great–peanut butter, cornmeal, flour, rice, bulgur (no one had ever heard of it in those days!). We got one pound blocks of lard (which was fine for baking). Some was….OK, you could use for cooking–powdered milk and eggs. Some was AWFUL. There were cans of unidentifiable meat, for example, which we bravely tried one time and then spent years trying to scrub the memory of it from our minds.
    Of course, its 50 years later and the food is probably shittier now. Its a crap idea. Mulvaney is a disgrace to the memory of any Irish man, woman or child who died of hunger during the famine.

    • Ellie

      His grandparents came from County Mayo, so I’m sure his ancestors lived through the famine. Good point, MamaBrown.

      • MamaBrown

        Damn skippy. He shows up on St. Patrick’s day dripping with shamrocks, but he sounds like the British landowners, who snotted that if the Irish didn’t want to starve, well, they should have better habits of economy. oh, and get your dead granny off the road, Sean, my coach is being delayed. Jesus. I’m of Irish descent–I’ve never been sentimental about it, but this sniveling, ass licking toady makes me see red, for real.

  • Bebecca

    That sounds like a fabulous idea, what could go wrong? Just about everything obviously.

  • CripesAmighty
    • Suse

      Uncanny resemblance!

    • thixotropic jerk

      Separated at birth?

  • Monty Market

    Before food stamps, when a poor student at UMass living on GI Bill ($250/mo.) in off-campus apartment ($215/mo) and working p/t in the library, qualified for welfare food, which included a 5 lb slab of American cheese, #10 can of bully beef, etc. Barely edible but put us over for a while. Food stamps are so much more dignified and practical — that’s why must be done away with: humiliate “the takers.”

    To think that in the richest country in the world, it politically essential to starve a portion of the population, is just plain weird.

    • kaydenpat

      It’s politically essential to starve a portion of the population to make sure that the mega rich get their dang tax cuts. Those are the only folks who matter to Republicans.

    • MamaBrown

      I got food stamps a couple of times, probably same era (70’s?). Before the safety net was totally gutted. A temporarily unemployed person with rent to pay could qualify. I got $52 a month. Kept the wolf from the door.

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    I would bet money that the food in the boxes will be low quality, odds and ends to get rid of it. While the better quality food is sold for a profit. Thats all it is, just a excuse to get rid of subpar odds and end foods that they cant sell.

    • MamaBrown

      And that, my friend, is what happens in North Korea. Food sent as aid from other countries never gets to the people who need it. The elites keep anything that’s any good, the people who are doing distribution sell what they can skim off, and the dregs go to the poor.

    • Kip TW

      I expect Mr. Trump has some friend who is itching for the contract. Maybe a packager of dollar store foodstuffs. Maybe a Russian oligarch. Maybe a two-man operation in North Dakota that figures they can do it.

  • Susan

    So who’s going to pack and ship all these boxes? Answer: The working poor who probably qualify for SNAP. Can you imagine the cost? Boxes? Packing, weighing, measuring, shipping? Sounds like UPS is at the trough looking for a sweetheart government contract. Just let the damn people who need the food pick it themselves and transport it home at their own trouble and/or expense. You could call it SNAP & CARRY and declare it brilliant. But wait! That’s what we have now. These people are nuts!

    • Don’t be silly. When the time comes I am sure that the USDA CEOs will suddenly happen to have a private for profit poor box shipping enterprise in place

      • Ray in VT

        And one that will conveniently have personal or financial ties to the administration?

  • I want to know what homeless families are going to do with a month’s worth of canned/dry food. Because when we were living in pay-by-the-week motel rooms, boxes of this stuff from food pantries was basically useless to us. Food pantries don’t give you anywhere near a month’s worth of food, but what they did give, we didn’t really have anyplace to store. And don’t even get me started on the difficulty of turning random cans and boxes of noodles into edible meals when you don’t have a kitchen full of appliances to cook with. And we were living in motel rooms and usually at least had a microwave or something. What about people living in their cars or tents or whatever? SNAP isn’t perfect when it comes to this stuff (being able to buy hot food would help a lot) but SNAP as it currently exists is a hell of a lot better than a box of a month’s worth of random dry goods

    • empf

      Exactly This just shit fer brains taking another dump.

  • Kip TW

    A conversation at Ill Manor, back in the 70s:

    Roommate: “I’m having [yecch] pinto beans for supper.”
    Me: “Pinto beans are okay.”
    Roommate: “Not the way I make ’em!”

  • Anarchy Unicorn
  • Oh, wait, it was imagined up by people who make a fortune off selling food?
    YOU DONT SAY. Huh. Wonder if they are wet dreaming of all the tax dollars for poor food boxes coming right to their pockets?

  • thixotropic jerk

    Or we could just eat the rich and solve a buncha problems at once!
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o-0lAhnoDlU

  • willi0000000

    fuck it! . . . just go directly to A Modest Proposal.

  • psychobroad

    Exactly, Dok, it’s a humiliation thing. It’s what gives little donnie a chubbie.

  • skyguy

    This sounds overly complicated. Maybe the Trump Administration can distribute cubes of Soylent Green instead.

  • Lordpnut

    Soylent green is people?

    Yes, and they smoke pretty good if you don’t roll them too tightly.

  • Nick.Trite

    I can’t help but imagine that this would cost way more than just giving everyone some damn food money.

    • Hiptobesquare

      Well, it might cost the government more money, but you know who would make money on this? Giant food corps, friends of Orange Hitler. Who could offload their past-sell-by-date or just-slightly-contaminated food to the government, to be delivered to the poors, who don’t deserve anything better because…you know the drill…lazy and don’t care for their children. If they did care for their kids, why would they be poors? Why wouldn’t they grab onto those bootstraps and just yank themselves up to CEO positions?

      Fuck this. Just fuck this to the millionth power.

  • Monica

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    • JCfromNC

      Wait, there was Lisa, then that guy who’s name escapes me now, and now there’s Monica? I’m beginning to think these are all just made up. And what happened to the Range Rover? Now you’re buying Inifinitis with your “Goℴgle” monies?

      “Do job Some only few peroid [sic] of time daily” Wut?

  • JCfromNC

    The article touches on food allergies, but I needed to be reminded that a little over a century decade year* ago, the company that bought the patent for the EpiPen jacked up the price by about 300%. So for people with food allergies, you have a choice: Die by starvation or anaphylactic shock! Because if you’re getting government cheese in a box, it’s highly unlikely you can afford an EpiPen just in case that pesky nut allergy is triggered. #MAGA!

    *I know, right? So much crap has happened so quickly that it doesn’t feel like it could possibly be fit into just 18 months.

    • Dog years, my friend. Dog year.

      • It’s been a dog of a year, all right…

  • I’ve got exactly one word for this idea: FEMA in Puerto Rico.

  • empf

    The delivery logistics alone are ridiculous

  • Sharon Cooper

    When the fuck did we start living in Panem? When is someone going to suggest starting up the Hunger Games to combat the opioid crisis?

    • Teto85

      t* and half-pence ae not sure if they want Panem or the Republic of Gilead or some combination.

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