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Take it from the president, kids. DRUGS ARE NOT COOL!

The best way to prevent drug addiction and overdose is to prevent people from abusing drugs in the first place. If they don’t start, they won’t have a problem. If they do start, it’s awfully tough to get off. So if we can keep them from going on and maybe by talking to youth and telling them: No good, really bad for you in every way. But if they don’t start, it will never be a problem.

Not convinced? Well, how ’bout from the coolest little lady in DC, Miss Kellyanne Conway.

The best way to stop people from dying from overdoses and drug abuse is by not starting in the first place. That’s a big core message for our youth.

Deeeeeep.

Okay, final offer! Who wants to Hugs Not Drugs with this strapping young lad? Hope that’s a yes, because this young fella is your Deputy Drug Czar. Hooray! Or he was until some nosy parkers at the Washington Post pointed out that a 24-year-old with a padded (read: lying) resume and zero relevant experience is an odd choice to lead the nation’s anti-drug efforts. So now poor Taylor Weyeneth is back to being a lowly desk jockey. SAD!

It’s not Taylor’s fault, really. Well, lying about having a Masters degree, inflating his volunteer hours and pretending that helping out at his family business in high school made him “Director of Production” is on him — 24 is plenty old enough to know better. But being made Deputy Chief of Staff at the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) just kinda happened.

See, Trump is busy with important president stuff right now, like attacking the media and livetweeting Fox & Friends. So he asked Kellyanne Conway to deal with the whole opioids thing. Conway is busy doing … whatever the hell she does. Begging someone to let her come on teevee, we guess. Anyway, no one in Trumpland has time for this drug shit. They tried to cut the funding for ONDCP, but then all the senators were like, “Boohoo, can’t let ’em just die, show some compassion” or something. So instead they decided to stash campaign yahoos like Taylor there. It won’t do anything to stop the drug problem, but it keeps the lil’ Trumpers off the streets.

But then all the grownups started rushing the exits.

Trump has pledged to marshal federal government talent and resources to address the opioid crisis, but nearly a year after his inauguration, the drug policy office, known as ONDCP, lacks a permanent director. At least seven of his administration’s appointees have departed, office spokesman William Eason said. Among them was the general counsel and acting chief of staff, some of whose duties were assumed by Weyeneth, according to a memo obtained by The Washington Post.

“ONDCP leadership recognizes that we have lost a few talented staff members and that the organization would benefit from an infusion of new expert staff,” said the Jan. 3 memo from acting director Richard Baum, a civil servant. “The functions of the Chief of Staff will be picked up by me and the Deputy Chief of Staff.”

Leaving the Boy Wonder as second in command at an office with a $368 million budget. Prior ONDCP Deputies have had legal and policy degrees and work experience in law enforcement and public health. But don’t worry, because Taylor has a BS in “Legal Studies.” Plus, he had a relative who died of an overdose, and it “really affected him.” So we’re in good hands. The Trump administration cares deeply about the 20 million Americans with substance abuse issues and the 52,000 overdose deaths every year in this country. Help is on the way, West Virginia!

OR … they’re not sending their best people. They give no shits about anything that isn’t tax breaks or Muslim bashing. And The Wall, of course. There is no national drug control policy or strategy other than expanding private prisons and locking people up. In which case, just as well that they’re sending incompetent douchebros who can’t even find the mens room without using Waze. If you think about it, it’s actually a NiceTimes story, right?

LOL just kidding. But maybe it will go better than that time we sent the 23-year-old Bush campaign workers to rebuild Iraq.

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  • ManchuCandidate

    Makes the ice cream truck driver who fucked up Iraqinam’s stock market and Brownie the Arabian horse show guy who drowned New Orleans seem over qualified.

  • The Wanderer

    This little fuckwit’s exactly the same as those shitheels Bush hired for Iraq: Excellent in terms of ideology and Party loyalty, but worthless otherwise.

    • Martini A, very stable genius

      Who needs competence when there’s blind loyalty?

      • Beelzebubba

        Loyalty to Il Douche is the one and only job requirement in this administration.

  • Squeegee

    Why hasn’t there been a class action lawsuit or legal action by state attorney generals to hold drug companies responsible for CREATING the opoid crisis????

    They are just as responsible as big tobacco for getting people hooked on oxycontin and so on which in turn lead to the heroin epidemic.

    It breaks my heart (seriously) that it has gotten so bad they need to have commercials in heavy rotation on tv encouraging people to get help.

  • Martini A, very stable genius

    Looking to fill yet another vacant Dumbass admin role? I hear those guys from Whitefish are free these days.

    • Seek

      Probably have as much relevant experience as this guy

  • Edith Prickly, Stable Genius
    • mardam422

      They hate us for our freedom. Fake news!!! We are more respected everywhere, by more people than ever…period.

  • JohnBull

    Hugs not Drugs? Someone in the White House could use a hug. It’s pretty clear the whole administration avoids contact with humanity altogether.

    • willi0000000

      lets help . . . send bears!

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    I am watching Trump on CNN until Modern family starts but he is having a field day.

  • puredog

    So I had oral surgery this morning and am now gobbling percocet, AND IT’S ALL LEGIT! Look upon me, oh my Wonkers, and grind your teef in envy.

    • Edith Prickly, Stable Genius

      I’m hoarding the ones I got after my last surgery.

      • puredog

        These are from 2014. I hoarded them, then hoarded the ones from 2017, and am now hoarding the ones from 2018. When the air raid sirens blow, I be grinding a whole bunch of them up at once, snorting them, and eating the rest.

        • godsaidHA

          Hmm… that’s an idea for the approaching apocalypse. I had a root canal recently, would Tylenol 3 w/codeine work?

    • Eileen Besse

      I lived in the glory days of percoDAN!!!

      • proudgrampa

        Yeah, I remember those!

    • Ryan Denniston

      I know a certain keebler elf who will trade very good grass to bust someone way above my pay grade.

    • proudgrampa

      My favorite pain med combo is percocet and Jack Daniels. (Just kidding, but it sure SOUNDS good!)

      • Roadstergal

        Oh gawd. I’ve taken oxycodone for post-surgical pain, and it works, but it gets me high as fuck. I can’t imagine alcohol on top of that…

    • Cornelius Fussbudget

      But Mr Trump just said that the best way to prevent abuse is not to start in the first place!!!111!!1!!!1!! Didn’t you even listen, heeennnggnng??!!?22??! Some people, I tell ya, sheesh.

  • Boojum

    Submitting a false resume to the federal government is a crime. 18 U.S.C. 1001. I want this little fucker locked up.

  • OrG

    Just say no.

    • Beelzebubba

      To your doctor.

  • ArgieBargie

    I hope that kid, at the very least, is fucking Melania.

    I mean, somebody has to.

    • MynameisBlarney

      A safe bet it ain’t The Doturd.

      • proudgrampa

        Not at “239” pounds, he’s not.

        • Roadstergal

          “Have you seen Trump’s dick?”

          “No…”

          “Neither has he.”

    • Roadstergal

      You don’t have to be on drugs to fuck Melania, but it helps.

  • SeeTrainWrecked

    But don’t worry, because Taylor has a BS in “Legal Studies.”

    He has BS, all right …

  • dslindc

    I’m sure Taylor Snapchatted some bros that “Drugs are bad, mmmkay?” and everything was solved.

  • proudgrampa

    Oh, for fuck’s sake.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    “KAC” “begged” “come on” shouldn’t be in the same sentence

  • Victoria Ricola

    Checkmark dems, this proves the government doesn’t work!!11!! Everyone knows $100,000 luxury rehab clinics in sunny Palm Springs are the only way help addicts!!1!11!

  • mardam422

    But they still support Trump. Because he…something, probably white.

  • elviouslyqueer

    See, Trump is busy with important president stuff right now, like attacking the media and livetweeting Fox & Friends.

    So basically this: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46443ec12a49395f52309cb5bee339dd251c229781d3bfe647e224fffeeae476.jpg

    • proudgrampa

      Sure looks like a sextet to me, not a trio…

      • MynameisBlarney

        Maths is hard.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          They’re Biblically prohibited from calling themselves a sextet

          • MynameisBlarney

            My juvenile mind automatically went “Sextits!” followed by a Beavis & Butthead laugh.

      • WotsAllThisThen

        Unless it’s a trio of married couples. In which case good on them for being trailblazers!

      • puredog

        A deviated septet.

        • proudgrampa

          Deviant deviated septet?

      • SeeTrainWrecked

        Four men, two women … TRIO.

        Christian school?

        • elviouslyqueer

          Betsy DeVos represent!

        • proudgrampa

          Probably. I’ve heard stories from victims about teaching trigonometry and relating it to the trinity.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      God apparently had the enchiladas the night before.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      The eternal philosophical question: Can god create a kidney stone that he cannot pass?

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance
    • RickyG

      The Gospel of (the) John!

    • Roadstergal

      Why is Alfred E. Neuman in the back trying to get a look down that woman’s dress?

  • Rebel Scum with permit

    Easiest thing is to bully Drs to not prescribe to chronic pain patients. Low lying fruit, and all that.

    • carovee

      Dude. Don’t put this on chronic pain patients. They need real relief.

      • Victoria Ricola

        I have mixed feelings about this. While I understand your point and strongly feel we shouldn’t be putting roadblocks in front of people already suffering from chronic pain, the other side of the equation is that maybe we don’t need to prescribe heroin to people as a first resort either.

        • Rebel Scum with permit

          Heroin can’t be prescribed in this country, as it is a Schedule I narcotic. Fentanyl has use as an anesthetic as well as a pain reliever. If you’ve been under twilight sedation at an outpatient surgery center, it was probably in your drug cocktail.
          If I had answers, I’d be drug czar. I know that when I was on the fentanyl patch, it was much easier to control my pain. As I mentioned above, I weaned myself to a less powerful drug with the help of my MD because I was afraid that the drug would no longer be prescribed.

      • Rebel Scum with permit

        I am one. I’ve weaned myself off the stronger stuff, even though I live a lot more pain, because I could see the handwriting on the wall. It means I can’t walk or stand more than about 15 minutes.

      • Roadstergal

        This. PT and opioids work. PT is expensive. Opioids are cheap. When heath care money is lacking, the cheap one gets prioritized. We all need to fix health care, but nobody should be in agony in the meantime.

  • WotsAllThisThen

    This reminds me of ’03 when all those Heritage Foundation interns were put in charge of rebuilding Iraq. And I expect it to go just as well.

  • carovee

    Recycling Nancy Reagan’s failed “just say no” campaign and appointing unqualified lackey’s? Trump truly is the gift that keeps on giving.

  • WotsAllThisThen

    I can totally picture that guy coming around to the back of the high school gym and saying, “Hey everybody, don’t do drugs!”

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Is that before or after he commits sexual assault?

      • puredog

        Behind the dumpster

        • WotsAllThisThen

          Brock Turner, head of White House HR.

          • Roadstergal

            Administrator of Title IX.

        • Klapaucius

          So the president is there as well?

      • theblackdog

        Both?

      • RickyG

        During

  • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

    Put KAC in charge, she clearly has all of the personal experience

  • SayItWithWookies

    Based on how coked-up he looks in his LinkedIn picture, I’m saying he might be the most qualified Trump appointee so far.

  • Jenny

    I bet he put a profile for oxy on Tinder and totally gave a lecture to people swiping right!

    New edgy marketing baby!

    Ha, just kidding. Bet he didn’t even think of even doing that.

  • ArgieBargie

    “The best way to stop people from dying from overdoses and drug abuse is by not starting in the first place. That’s a big core message for our youth.”

    In short: we are not doing a fucking thing.

    • Parakeetist

      That doesn’t do anything for the people who already have a problem.

  • Parakeetist

    More people will die because of this idiot.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Because “Just say no” worked so well last time they tried it

  • Nounverb911

    If this guy accomplishes anything, I’d like to see him get the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC to rename the Sackler* Wing the Opioid Wing….

    *The Sackler family manufactures Rush’s favorite OXYCONTIN.

  • proudgrampa

    Somebody gave Taylor the correct answer to his question:

    “Who do I have to blow around here to get a job?”

    • theblackdog

      I’d rather not know who he blew.

      • proudgrampa

        Me, neither.

  • John McLaughlin

    Only the best people for Trump.
    BTW…the interviews with Stormy show she is actually his intellectual superior by a mile. Stormy could replace Trump and we would have a better functioning government and at least would not be lied to at every turn.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Plus, the GOP might finally get over their problem with blowjobs in the oval office

      • WotsAllThisThen

        I see a lot of bipartisanship coming.

        • RickyG

          You mean orgasms on both sides of the aisle?
          Messy.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            They’re bicameral…

          • RickyG

            So they take it in either chamber, eh? -wink wink-

          • WotsAllThisThen

            You don’t want to watch the sausage being… uh… made.

    • Boscoe

      Which is pretty much the lowest bar possible.

  • Beelzebubba

    Meanwhile, if there are any gov’t regulations limiting how freely drug companies can distribute opiates, you can be sure Il Douche will try to rescind them. Because they’re just, you know, job-killing regulations.

  • Nounverb911

    How does this affect Rush Limbaugh’s OXY supplies?

    • WotsAllThisThen

      They’re hoping this kid will distract Rush long enough to steal his stash.

  • 8th amendment frrolfe

    OT. Ireland is facing a referendum later this year on abortion which is basically illegal under current law. Most of the money supporting the ban will come from the US. Just letting you know the reach of the fundigelicals in the US

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Russia fucks with our election, we fuck with Ireland’s. Circle of life.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Hakuna Abortata

      • MynameisBlarney

        Same logic as going to war in Iraq after 9-11.

    • Nounverb911

      Does this mean that Ireland will stop the demolition of the last Magdalene Laundry?

    • PubOption

      I thought that fundies would like to reduce the numbers of heathen Catholics.

      • georgiaburning

        First things first

  • Swampay

    Just Say No to Drugs! What a brilliant idea! I wonder if anyone’s ever tried that?

  • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

    This punk isn’t even qualified to be a paralegal. Must be nice to know someone who knows someone.

  • Michael Smith

    This budding young conservative reportedly told shocked subordinates that his “plan” for tackling the opiate crisis is “basically, get everyone a copy of Atlas Shrugged,” because “If that doesn’t get through to them, nothing will.” He then proceeded to do what the young kids call “vape tricks,” leading to several staffers storming out in a mix of protest and confusion.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Reardon steel. Is there anything it can’t do?

    • Jenny

      People in heroin stupors love reading shitty books, I’m told.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        You’d have to be high to appreciate that sophomoric crap. On the plus side though, the prose is so dense that you could torch the book and heat spoons with it all night long…

        • Roadstergal

          I’ve never been high enough to appreciate Ayn Rand, but I’ve never done heroin.

        • georgiaburning

          Possibly the best use of Ayn Rand scribblings

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Also good for propping up the corner of the doublewide

  • Mormos

    sooo what do we do about the millions already addicted?

    • jaspersdad

      Thoughts and prayers…………There all better.

    • Anna Rompage

      A nice Sessions owned private penitentiary?

    • Nounverb911

      “Well, they started without our help, they can stop without our help.”
      –Taylor

    • BadKitty904

      Let them die.

      ~ The GOP

  • elviouslyqueer

    Taylor has a face that was made for Axe Body Spray and mace.

  • Anna Rompage

    Hey, at least the Trump admin didn;t try to appoint Josh Duggar to the post, or Ted Nugent either….

    • Boscoe

      That’s because Teh Nooj is gonna be secretary of the Army and Josh will head up the anti-pedo taskforce, at least until Subway Jared is pardoned.

  • WomanInThePersistence

    No. This is not a NiceTimes story.

    • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

      We are severely lacking in nicetime today.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Seeing you always makes it nicetime.

        • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

          D’aw, shucks….

  • Gayer Than Thou

    The problem is, if the dreaded government is going to solve the problem of the opioid epidemic, it’s going to have to control the behavior of some of the players in some way – you know, regulations. Then again, maybe I’m just mindlessly repeating liberal dogma here. Nostrums like “thoughts and prayers” have worked remarkably well in the area of gun violence, so perhaps they’ll work as well here.

    • vukojebina_MΩment

      The invisible hand of the marketplace, piloting the needle to the juiciest vein…

  • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

    Perfect opportunity to put Martin Shkreli in charge to actually solve the problem. He’d just raise the price of Oxy by 2000%, and nobody’d be able to afford it any more. Problem solved.

    • MynameisBlarney

      I really hate to keep saying this but, don’t give them any ideas!

    • Arolpin

      Actually, the cost of Oxy is a big reason we have a heroin epidemic. People get hooked on Oxy, then realize they cost a LOT of money on the black market, but heroin is a lot cheaper, so they switch to heroin. They only snort it, so it’s not like they’re addicts. Then 3 months later they’re injecting, but they’re white, so, again, not addicts.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Because of a health thing, I went through opioid withdrawal. It sucked, big time. I have all of sympathy for people who are dealing with this.

        • Arolpin

          Ugh, I’m glad that my vices have never included opiods (and even mild ones make me nauseous). I know people who have had to put themselves in medical detox to get clean, and it’s a nasty process.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            I was lucky. And was able to take my oxy to the cops. I sincerely say this. I was lucky.

  • WandaJayne

    Isn’t he also a current Beer Pong Finals Champion?

  • WotsAllThisThen

    “It’s a message that we’re not taking this drug issue seriously.”

    For that matter, electing Trump is a message that we’re not taking anything seriously.

  • janecita
    • MynameisBlarney

      Ya get a load of the size of the mitts on SHS?
      JESUS!

      • ariel_gee_398

        I think maybe something is wonky with the perspective? Look at her right hand – it seems much smaller, no?

        • MynameisBlarney

          DAMMITALLTOHELL!

          Don’t bring logic into this!

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Years of choking out her brothers when she caught them doing the nasty with barnyard critters. How about the boy king’s tiny hands though?

        • ariel_gee_398

          I like the diet coke in the corner. It’s a humanizing touch.

      • Ling Ling

        This is why she rarely stands next to Trump. Also: thicker sideburns.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          She looks mean- like she goes down to skid row on Saturday nights and roughs up the homeless drunks for fun

      • georgiaburning

        Could be a very wide angle lens- notice the good focus with some distortions.
        Not nice to body shame SHS. Her words offer plenty of targets, however.

    • ariel_gee_398

      I’m not sure it’s fair to say SHS’s mouth is agape because of what she’s seeing. I think that’s just her default setting.

      • vukojebina_MΩment

        I hear they don’t let her outside when it rains. I think there’s chicken genes in that family genepool.

    • She’s in lerve.

      • janecita

        Ewwww🤢🤮

  • So if we can keep them from going on and maybe by talking to youth and telling them: No good, really bad for you in every way. But if they don’t start, it will never be a problem.

    So we’re 35 years into “Just say no…” and it hasn’t done anything, but maybe if we keep telling people that for a little bit longer, it’ll work?

    Notwithstanding that most of those addicts started out as patients who were given a prescription by a doctor that they trusted.

    • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

      Didn’t seem to work for Dolt himself, judging by the sniffing.

  • BadKitty904

    How much is this twink being paid with our tax-dollars?

    • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

      Too much. Way too much.

      • BadKitty904

        WAY too much.

    • Belasaurius

      too much

    • Skeptical_thinker

      Twink liblez!!!11!eleventy1!!

      (Someone had to say it)

      • BadKitty904

        Hey, I was being polite.

  • Skeptical_thinker
  • Indiepalin

    Now for $50, what is the best way to stop people from dying in automobile accidents?

    • notaten

      Never get into a car! Send my prize to wonkette pls, I am broke this month. Thanks

    • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

      Is the answer more guns?

      • Roadstergal

        Always.

      • vukojebina_MΩment

        Is it ever NOT guns?

      • MynameisBlarney

        Moar armed carz!

    • Ms. MLG on Maui

      World peace?

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Don’t put people in automobiles?

  • OneYieldRegular

    It’s almost as though this administration is trying to facilitate expansion of the selling of drugs, like a common organized crime carte-…

    Oh.

  • x111e7thst

    Bad Taylor! It’s beeritory confinement and the paddle for you!

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    ‘Opioid’ Taylor, past president of the Ron Howard fan club.

    • vukojebina_MΩment

      I’ve HAD opiods. They really hurt you, right in the cunningham, Aaaaaay?

  • vukojebina_MΩment

    Trumpland Appoints 24-Year-Old Frat Bro To Solve Opioid Crisis. All Better Now?

    Taylor: “Have you tried turning it off, and then back on again?”

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Opioid crisis?

      There’s an app for that!

  • bbayliss

    The story behind oxycodone is amaze-balls.
    The Family That Built an Empire of Pain | The New Yorker
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/…/the-family-that-built-an-empire-of-pai…

    Oct 30, 2017 – The Brooklyn-born brothers Arthur, Mortimer, and Raymond Sackler, all physicians, donated lavishly during their lifetimes to an astounding range of institutions .
    The Secretive Family Making Billions From the Opioid Crisis – Esquire
    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a12775932/sackler-family-oxycontin/
    A 5-sentence letter helped trigger America’s deadliest drug overdose …
    https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/…/opioid-epidemic-letter-1980-study
    Jun 1, 2017 – Juurlink and his team aren’t the first to draw the connection between the opioid crisis and the 1980 letter. It was a focus of Sam Quinones’s Dreamland, a groundbreaking book highlighting the opioid epidemic and its causes. But the new study shows how prominent the letter was: With hundreds of citations, .

  • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

    In PA we have people mad that our governor is actually trying to do something about the opioid crisis. They are complaining that it means their taxes will go up and somehow the state of emergency means Democrats are going to take all their guns, Those same people think the people addicted to opioids should just die so it doesnt inconvenience them.

    • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

      “The opioid crisis is out of control!”
      “Okay, we’ll do something.”
      “NO, DON’T DO ANYTHING! THEY DON’T DESERVE ANY HELP!”
      “But you…”
      “Fix it!”
      “But…”
      “What are we paying you for?!? FIX IT!”

      • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

        But their guns.

        http://www.philly.com/philly/opinion/editorials/opioids-guns-scott-wagner-tom-wolf-pa-disaster-emergency-20180116.html

        Wagner, a York County Republican seeking his party’s nomination to challenge Wolf’s bid for a second term in November, said he welcomed the governor’s “decision to finally get serious” about the problem.

        A day later, Wagner was back with a warning, claiming Wolf’s declaration “has infringed on the rights of any Pennsylvanians who could generally carry a firearm in public without a license.”

        Wagner’s theory: A statewide disaster emergency declaration triggers laws prohibiting the open carrying of firearms on public streets or property during that declaration.

        • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler
          • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

            I guess I should be surprised that the first thing republicans and the NRA think of is how it will affect them carrying their penis replacement.

        • Sakonyachen

          So he wants to run for office and doesn’t know the difference between a state of emergency and a disaster emergency? If trucks full of opioids were crashing into the state from every side and launching the pills into people’s mouths until they became addicted, that would be a disaster emergency. He will probably win though.

    • Arolpin

      Those idiots are often the same as the people addicted to opiods. They’re probably more worried that any efforts to fight the opiod epidemic will lead to closing down pill mills *AND* increase black market prices.

      • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

        But they deserve help, its those “others” that dont deserve any help.

  • Boojum

    I wonder if anyone will report him to the FBI.

  • canes_pugnaces

    Let’s not forget about Eric Trump’s wedding planner, now in charge of NY’s $1B HUD budget. Previous experience: Zip.

    • Enter Ranting

      Did they learn NOTHING from Omarosa?

  • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

    “The best way to stop people from dying from overdoses and drug abuse is by not starting in the first place. That’s a big core message for our youth.”

    Counterpoint: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-than-one-third-americans-prescribed-opioids-in-2015/- 1/3rd of Americans were prescribed some sort of opioid in a single *year*. I would know, I was one of them.

    And lemme tell you brother, those things have a powerful addictive quality for a person in a metric shitton of pain (or even those with more manageable but chronic conditions). I managed to avoid any kind of addiction, but had I been forced to take them for another few months, I honestly don’t know.

    That’s why they’re dangerous, and why “just don’t” is a stupid-ass strategy, Kelly, you shovel-faced fallacy-gargling dipshit.

    • ariel_gee_398

      What would you have us do? Let people use perfectly safe weed-derivatives that aren’t addictive and actual help without so much collateral damage? That’s just crazy talk.

      • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

        Snark aside, I will say that Mary Jane is probably more useful for chronic conditions. In situations of acute pain like I had, it just doesn’t pack the punch needed.

        That said, it’s a potentially useful tool and there’s literally no logical reason not to use it.

        • Roadstergal

          Preface by saying that it’s stupid that it’s Schedule I and needs to be no higher (ha) than Schedule III, because it’s awfully safe as far as recreational drugs go… but the evidence for pain is meh. Eg:

          https://www.acfp.ca/wp-content/uploads/tools-for-practice/1510681044_tfp199mmandpainfv.pdf

          Rescheduling it will make research easier and more plentiful, but the way it’s pointing right now, I wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t pan out to much.

          • Arolpin

            When I had cellulitus in my face (which was the second worst pain I’ve ever felt, only eclipsed by a completely dislocated elbow), I actually did take a couple Tylenol 3s that my doc prescribed, but only for the first day (and only to allow me to stick a needle up my nose and lance the fucking infection), the rest of the week (and the two other times I had it) I just used moderate amounts of weed and was able to go about my business with moderate discomfort, rather than blinding pain.

          • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

            Please don’t take this as a playing down of your pain, but that seems to be in keeping with the proposed medical use of marijuana, to treat mild-to-moderate pain that may be chronic.

            When I talk about acute pain, I mean like when I not only had to watch three doctors pull my leg out of the socket as my leg had fallen into the void created by my pelvis shattering, I had to help them do it. *That* is the level that the hardcore opioids get prescribed, and Mary Jane just doesn’t hit at that level.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            I had a perforated intestine. I am a woman who dealt with a multiple fracture with ibuprofen and chocolates. And then I felt real pain. I was begging for pain relief.

          • Arolpin

            You are right. When I dislocated my elbow, they gave me valium & demerol, then put me on T3s. I needed serious pain meds then, but for an infected tooth, you probably don’t need Oxy. A friend’s ex-husband got (re-)addicted to opioids because his femur kept popping out of the hip socket, causing unbearable pain (and this is after he had both hips replaced in his late 30s). The last thing they did before they filed for divorce was get yet another hip replacement, using his wife’s insurance, because he didn’t have any, and was obviously not going to be able to work when he couldn’t walk across the room.
            I *think* she eventually delayed the divorce so that she could get him inpatient detox under her insurance.

    • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

      I got a mild concussion when I was in college. The ER doc who treated me gave me a scrip for Percocet. I never filled it – I gutted it out on Tylenol and rest.

      • Victoria Ricola

        A sketchy walk-in clinic doctor gave me an unusually large prescription for Oxy when I was having wisdom teeth pain 15 or so years ago. I didn’t fill it either, I have a family history of addiction and was scared I would get addicted immediately.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        For a concussion?? Dafuq?

    • Skeptical_thinker

      Howzabout a 3 day prescription for acute pain (the longest I’ve ever used opioids) with a transition to ibuprofen? Getting a prescription for 30 days and being told to use them “as needed” is a recipe for addiction.

      Chronic pain is different. Opioid use should be monitored closely and a transition plan to non-addictive pain relievers should be tried.. The lowest effective dose should be the goal.

      Cancer pain is orders of magnitude different. Before she was on a morphine pump my late wife was using Fetanyl patches so strong that I was told to wear gloves when I unwrapped and applied them.

  • gnomemansanisland
  • Raan

    The best way to stop people from dying from overdoses and drug abuse is by not starting in the first place. That’s a big core message for our youth.

    Great. And how exactly does that help with doctors and pharmacies getting people hooked on Vicodin and Oxycodone and booting them straight into the arms of heroin dealers?

    • Wackyland Radio Resistor

      Everyone who works in that department needs to at least read Dreamland.

  • BadKitty904

    Why would the current “Administration” hire an utter incompetent to be America’s Drug Czar at the height of the opioid crisis? Meet the Sacklers, major Republican Party “campaign donors”…

    The Secretive Family Making Billions from the Opioid Crisis
    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a12775932/sackler-family-oxycontin/

    The Family That Built an Empire of Pain
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/30/the-family-that-built-an-empire-of-pain

    The OxyContin Clan: The $14 Billion Newcomer to Forbes 2015 List of Richest U.S. Families
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexmorrell/2015/07/01/the-oxycontin-clan-the-14-billion-newcomer-to-forbes-2015-list-of-richest-u-s-families/#47f4a49e75e0

    • bbayliss

      Great minds. (down thread)

      • BadKitty904

        I owe you a coke. As in “the soft drink”.

        The list of articles above, by the way, is just the first three that come up when you search “Sackler AND opioid” – there’s LOTS more…

        • bbayliss

          I’m pretty familiar with it because my daughter is a biostatistician.

          • BadKitty904

            I wonder what the Sacklers’ connection might be to hostile states, such as Russia and China – those who’d benefit from an addiction epidemic in the U.S…

          • bbayliss

            None, it’s always been money.

          • BadKitty904

            I ask, since so many American pharmaceuticals are manufactured in China…

          • bbayliss

            Ahhh, I hadn’t thought of that. Here’s the answer I found:
            Oxycodone first came to the U.S. in 1939, but it wasn’t until Purdue Pharma began manufacturing OxyContin in the United States in 1996 that it became widely used. OxyContin has had its ups and downs in the market of prescription drugs, and by 2001 it was the best selling narcotic pain reliever in the country.Jan 9, 2010

          • alpacapunchbowl

            There’s a huge opioid epidemic in Ukraine as well. Hmm…

          • BadKitty904

            Before AND after the Russian invasion?

          • alpacapunchbowl

            Pre-2014, yes and ongoing. Not to sound paranoid, but knowing what we know about VlaPu and his methods, there’s no doubt in my mind that it was at least to some extent encouraged if not created by the russkies to weaken the area.

          • BadKitty904

            Precisely my thought. The European nations did the same thing with opium in China in the 18th and 19th centuries.

          • alpacapunchbowl

            Exactly.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Ask the DEA why this administration cock blocked them from going after the big pharma companies and their pill pusher MDs?

      • BadKitty904

        Yuuuup. $$$, as always with Republicans…

    • bbayliss

      I would add this:The 1980 NEJM Letter That Fueled the Opioid Crisis – The Atlantic
      https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/06/nejm-letter-opioids/528840/
      Jun 2, 2017 – It’s a new study, a bit meta, from a team led by David Juurlink at the University of Toronto that tracked how the five-sentence letter passed through the game of academic citation telephone to become evidence that opioids are safe for chronic pain. In fact, it said no such thing.

      My daughter is a biostatistician this is used as an example of what to never do.
      Biostatisticians are considered to be the conscience of clinical studies.

      • BadKitty904

        But there’s money to be made…

        ~ Republicans

        • bbayliss

          SOOOOOOOOOOO much money.

        • Sakonyachen

          And we will blame the Democrats when it doesn’t work.

          • BadKitty904

            Always. And they’ll bend over and take it.

          • Sakonyachen

            Of all the criticisms of the Democratic Party, this is the one that I can never argue against. They just seem to stand by and let the Republican Party blame them for everything bad and take credit for everything good. Meanwhile, the Rs are also taking credit for stuff that isn’t good while saying it is, and they let that slide as well.

          • BadKitty904

            At times, it makes me shake with rage.

          • Sakonyachen

            Me too. The only thing that infuriates me more than watching them roll over for the Reps is the fact that I know I’ll still vote for them like they won’t keep rolling over for the Reps.

  • OrdinaryJoe

    To bad the gig didn’t stick. I heard about a college girl from NJ who has time on her hands. She might have been a great chief of staff for him.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    POTUS that makes me want to go on drugs does what now?

    • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

      Replace PeeOTUS with a competent president? I hear there is a really smart lady that is available that can do the job.

    • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

      Same as always – address things in the stupidest, most corrupt way possible?

    • Bebecca

      Just stick with alcohol like most of us here.

  • BearsEarsDeLaOursistance

    More like Director of Raging Power Bottoms, am I right?!?

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Ugh.

    • BadKitty904

      Oh, look at the time…

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      No self-respecting power bottom I’ve ever met wears a suit vest.

  • Red Bird

    It’s all about who you know…. old Donnie creating jeerbs.

  • BadKitty904

    How the American Opiate Epidemic Was Started by One Pharmaceutical Company
    http://theweek.com/articles/541564/how-american-opiate-epidemic-started-by-pharmaceutical-company

  • bbayliss

    Two part comedy podcast “Opium in the US” #280 & #281
    Episode 281 has part of the the Purdue Pharmacy story.

    http://thedollop.libsyn.com/

  • DerrickWildcat

    First it’s Jared, then it’s Kellyanne and now it’s this guy. I don’t think they really care.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Why on earth would you say this? Aside from the fact that they dont?

    • HooverVilles

      What will it take for Trump followers to realize Trump doesn’t care. Is it even possible for them to realize that?
      Willing ignorance is a heck of drug.

  • Scooby

    Portugal decriminalized all drugs and that solved the OD problem.

  • Jonny On Maui

    ‘Just Say No’ worked so well the last time…

    • laineypc

      It should work now, because there isn’t any reason to use anymore. No more racism, poverty, despair,…that’s all fixed now. Plus no more over-prescription!

      • WomanInThePersistence

        I take it that you are snarking.

        • laineypc

          May the snark be with you

    • John Thorstensen

      It destroyed the manners of America’s youth — should have been “Just Say No Thank You.”

      Ingrates.

  • notaten

    I also too have a BS in Legal Studies (if BS = Bull Shit and Legal Studies = many years watching Law & Order re-runs, and Forensic Files), and I don’t know anyone who has not known someone close to them that died of an overdose, because these are the times we live in. We have a serious problem, and this maladministration sees it as a joke. Fuck them all, with very rusty garden weasel votes.

    • Sakonyachen

      Rusty garden weasel votes are the first sign that shit’s about to get real.

  • Mavenmaven

    He’s not even old enough to have gone to medical school. Which means Trump can make him Deputy Surgeon General.

    • HooverVilles

      Sigh!

  • WiscoJoe

    TBF, the official policy of “If they don’t start, they won’t have a problem” is way more sensible than the unofficial policy of “Cocaine and prescription pills don’t even count as drugs as long as you can afford them, you junkie losers. Now someone go get Eric his afternoon pick-me-up.”

  • Jonny On Maui
  • Don’t start using drugs, kids! Oh, you got hurt on the job because there were so safety precautions and now you’re addicted to OxyContin? Tough titties, you should have been born rich!

  • Mysterious Masked Wrestler

    Because we all know that the root cause of drug addiction is that people were just never told drugs are bad for you.

    • Cornelius Fussbudget

      We should really try to get the word out. Maybe with an ad campaign.

      • ScottGoode

        I have said it before and I will say it again, fuck Scrappy Doo and all of his “Drugs, yech” bullshit.

  • Sakonyachen

    So this is America’s future?

    https://youtu.be/8Q6G_WqLp1w

  • HogeyeGrex
  • UncleTravelingMatt

    In 2006, I did a stint as a special prosecutor, directing an investigation in a cold case that heated up rapidly. Starting with one guy who OD’d from co-ingestion of methadone, alcohol, and xanax, the investigation yielded around a dozen convictions for everything from forging prescriptions to stealing — I kid you not — fucking fish anesthesia from a hatchery (I don’t know the exact number of people convicted because some of the cases we built were handed off to other jurisdictions) and one pharmacist surrendering his license in lieu of prosecution. Probably a dozen others only escaped prosecution because of a lack of resources — we just couldn’t hire enough lawyers and investigators fast enough.

    I learned there is no bottom. We looked at 6 pharmacies, quite a few doctors and nurses and could not find a bad prescription. My first call to the Board of Pharmacy was about a doc who prescribed 540 10/325 hydros for one guy in one month. The Board informed me that was “within treatment parameters.” So was 180 10mg oxys in a single month. One pharmacy in a town of 400 people was filling more prescriptions for pain pills in a month than a nearby town of 60,000’s two Albertson’s and a Walgreens combined and it didn’t raise any red flags with anyone. There is virtually no regulation.

    But I’m sure “Just Say No” will work great.

    • Lordpnut

      180 10mg oxycodone isn’t off-the-scale excessive.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        True, but at the time, we were being told that dosages exceeding 40mg per day were indicative of opioid resistance and should be viewed with suspicion. I think that’s still generally the case, even though dosages exceeding 80 mg are apparently fairly common.

        • Lordpnut

          And I understand you were involved in a good faith investigation into potentially serious crimes.
          I just generally bristle at beaurocrats making medical decisions for patients they’ve never seen, given the variable response of centrally acting drugs.

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            That’s really the root of the problem — doctors don’t want non-doctors getting involved in medical decisions, while law enforcement doesn’t think doctors fully appreciate the danger of those drugs being sold for recreational use. It’s a far more complicated issue than people think.

          • h4rr4r

            Oh noes someone might get high.
            Ever notice how more people OD on street drugs than sold pain pills? Maybe just maybe regulated legal markets save lives.

          • Lefty Wright

            We have a regulated market in pain medication. This was the problem when they were poorly regulated. And it is reappearing as people find ways around it. That is why legitimate pain sufferers are having hoops they have to jump through. Put the blame where it belongs.

            http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/inside-the-deadly-south-florida-pain-clinic-that-doled-out-drugs-to-700-patients-a-day-7848520

          • h4rr4r

            I am, the addicts aren’t shutting down pain clinics or mandating what a doctor can prescribe.

          • Lefty Wright

            Their use of the pill mills has led to restrictions. If there were not such thing as shoplifting, we would not see the security we seen in stores. If people did not drink and drive, we would save a lot of money on police and medical bills. If corporations truly were interested in public health, we would not need the EPA. It’s the response to people abusing and misusing systems that causes regulations. A legitimate pain clinic has not problems. They do have a few more regulatory hops they have to jump through, but only the pill mills caused the restrictions. It’s the places that have people from Tennessee going to Florida and stopping at 3 different clinics the same day, seeing a physician’s assistant for 3 minutes and walking out with a year’s worth of 10 mg oxycodone, 6 times a day from each one that caused the problem. In almost all cases, the government does not address problems that do not exist. The problem exists because of people abusing the system and the drugs. Pain clinics do have more oversight. But as long as they can justify what they are prescribing, they can prescribe as much as they think is needed. But if the prescription opioid drug problem persists, that may end. People who truly need opioid drugs for pain (including me) should be asking doctors and pharmacies to enforce the regulations we have now. Because if they don’t, we may lose our ability to get the medication we need when they tighten up even more.

          • h4rr4r

            I strongly disagree.
            This is punishing everyone for the crimes of a select few.

            The law is not the tool to solve this problem.

          • Bitter Scribe

            Ditto. My sister has to take massive doses of opiates just to function, and DEA and other bureaucrats make her jump through so many hoops…

          • Lordpnut

            The suspicion and scrutiny leveled at patients and doctors alike is an obscene travesty. Millions of people require long-term pharmacotherapy just to be functional.
            My wife is diabetic. She is “addicted” to insulin ; without it she would die. Insulin overdose can be fatal. To see this as fundamentally different from opioids for pain management or antidepressamts for depression makes no sense.

          • Tiny kaiju

            Yes and no. With opioids, it depends on why they are prescribed and how the patient uses them. Opioids analgesia in terminal illness,(cancer) should not have a dose ceiling. The person isn’t going to recover and deserves whatever amount of analgesia they want. Not how much anyone else thinks they should have. Chronic pain caused by non-fatal conditions (chronic back pain) is tricky. There are options for analgesia but it needs healthcare providers who know pain management well and access to resources that not everyone has. Prescribing a shit-ton of opioids for acute pain and then continuing to prescribe them, is the real problem. That is what current regulations are trying to control.

        • h4rr4r

          Yes, people in pain will develop opioid resistance.

          I sure hope you did not make too many old ladies and cancer patients suffer.

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            Oh, fuck off. I was prosecuting people who were selling pills.

          • h4rr4r

            And in the process you disrupted the treatment of a great many patients. Go talk to some pain management doctors or patients and find out.

            Sorry that you don’t want to deal with that.

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            What an asinine comment. How, exactly, did I disrupt treatment of a great many patients?

          • h4rr4r

            Wow, you really are resistant to new information on this topic.

            You have no idea what patients go through to get controlled substances do you?

            Ever been piss tested to make sure you take your medicine? If you don’t pop positive they pull the script for selling them. Which if your pharmacy just closed can easily happen to you.

            If your doctor ends up prosecuted for selling prescriptions, you can bet another doctor won’t want you as a patient and if they do take you forget about a new prescription right away.

            Lets say you avoid that, but other doctors in your town get popped. Now you can deal with your doctor trying to reduce prescriptions to some level a guy like you decided is correct and not a doctor.

          • Lefty Wright

            That happens sometimes, but there are still lots of people slipping through the cracks. There are national databases that doctors are supposed to check to prevent doctor shopping. The same with pharmacies. It’s amazing how word gets around quickly on the ones who are not using the tools that would prevent opioid prescription abuse. And as long as that problem exists, they are making it harder for legitimate pain sufferers to get the treatment they need. It’s the response to the pill mills and indiscriminate prescribing of large doses of opiods for short term problems that have set up the hoops people with chronic pain have to jump through. How do you think all these oxycontin pills are getting into the black market? Unlike meth, you cannot make it in your bathroom. And if you really have serious pain, you are not going to go out selling your pills.

          • h4rr4r

            How do they make it harder for legitimate patients? Is there a shortage of these pills?

            No, the law is making it harder for patients in a laughable attempt at stopping drug abuse.

            Let’s say you can stop those pills, now you have users on heroin of unknown concentration and mixed with god knows what.

          • Lefty Wright

            If you are a legitimate patient, you can still get your prescriptions. I do. I went to a pain clinic and tried several different treatments, including physical therapy, a TENS unit, non opioid medicines, but hydrocodone was the only thing that helped control (but not eliminate) the pain. I don’t know if loosening up the prescription restrictions will have any impact on the heroin problem. That has been there for a hundred years. That’s a pretty weak excuse for going back to the pill mills of the 1990s. In particular, oxycontin seems to be the gateway drug to heroin, not hydrocodone so much, but that can also be abused.

            Once again, if you need opioid pain medication, you can get it legally. If we do not get a handle on the illegal use of prescription opioids, then that may be a problem. We will be back to the days of alcohol prohibition and reefer madness. Something I do not want to see. So I’m willing to step over a few small hurdles now to make sure I don’t end up on the wrong side of a canyon of restrictions that I cannot get across in the future. Abusing the system in order to abuse the drugs is the problem.

          • h4rr4r

            That depends on where you live and if you can take time from work. Here it means seeing your doctor once a month, paying each time and getting 30 days of pills maximum.

            To pretend these practices don’t impact legitimate patients is just that, a fantasy.

            I am glad you are getting the treatment you need.

          • Lefty Wright

            Then you need to address the local medical boards. Ask your doctor for a justification of their policy. I go to my doctor every three months. He is a stickler of following the regulations. He writes a paper prescription with each month identified for the next three months. I get 75 10 mg. hydrocodone a month (that works because some days, 2 will handle it, some days it takes 3). Yeah, if I asked him to switch to 75 oxycodones, he would send me back to the pain clinic. I’m not sure if he would continue to prescribe that amount of oxycodone unless the pain clinic offered a very good justification. Or if I asked for an increase to 90 hydrocodone a month, then 6 moths later, asked to increase it to 120. So maybe the doctor doesn’t think the pain and the source of the pain justifies the prescription. But I doubt there is any regulation that would prevent a doctor in your area filling prescriptions just like mine does. At least no federal regulation.

          • h4rr4r

            NY state has different rules. I do not take opiates.

          • h4rr4r

            I am not on any opiates. I take no controlled substances.
            I am frustrated by how many people believe that any problem one speaks about must be their own.

            NY state does not allow 90 day prescriptions of controlled substances.
            https://regs.health.ny.gov/content/section-8069-schedule-iii-iv-and-v-substances

          • ez

            oooooooooo, a Blue Badger.

          • h4rr4r

            Huh?
            I am blaming the cops.

          • Lefty Wright

            Even now, we hear of pill mills, but a decade ago it was frequently seen in places like West Virginia and Florida. People would drive down, see a doctor with no training in pain management one time, and leave with a year’s prescription for 60 mg of oxycontin a day. Then, while they were there, go to another “clinic” just a few miles down the road. They were not taking that much, some were not taking any at all. They were selling it.

            Yeah, sometimes government goes overboard on control. But if the system had never been abused in the past, there would not be the problem we have now. Blame the pill mills and the doctors and patients that used those. I use hydrocodone daily for back pain and damage to a nerve going into my leg. I have been taking the same dosage for three years. It keeps the pain at a tolerable level. That’s all it’s supposed to do. And yeah, I’m concerned about the government taking it away from me. If I go more than 6 hours without some medication, I can barely walk. But if I took much more, I wouldn’t be able to walk either.

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            There is no good solution. Nobody knows how to responsibly and effectively regulate prescriptions. Doctors and pharmacies self-policing hasn’t worked. Pharma has been precious little help. Prosecuting every person with a pill that isn’t in a prescription bottle is silly and intrusive. I don’t know if there is an answer.

          • Lefty Wright

            i think it starts with the prescribing physician. There are databases of who is getting opioid prescriptions filled. My doctor uses it. I started going to a pain clinic and tried several different things, but hydrocodone was the only thing that really helped (except oxycodone, which was too strong and laid me out). Now, I have to go in every three months, we discuss how things are going, he writes paper prescriptions one per month for three months. The drug stores around here do follow the database entries. I’m sure if I started having more pain, my doctor would slightly up the Rx, but if I needed a major change, or even a small increase every six months, it would be back to the pain clinic. That is one effective means of controlling the prescription problem. For heroin, I don’t know. Of course, I have health insurance (Medicare now), which helps immensely.

          • SadDemInTex

            My personal doctor keeps a very close eye on pain meds. And my phamacist gets up in my face. I have an oxy script that is for about 10 pills which I fill once a year…and they still look at it hard.

          • Lefty Wright

            Oxy is a different situation. That is the main prescription drug that is abused. I’m just spitballing here, but they may wonder why you get the strongest medication that you only need 10 times a year. Usually, that is for persistent, severe pain. Not for occasional flare ups. But if so, don’t let it bother you as long as you can still get it and justify it. Most doctors will take a stern approach on opioid medications. Usually, it’s a bluff if they are your regular doctor. They wouldn’t keep prescribing it if they didn’t think you needed it. But if they can bluff you into cutting the dose, or stopping entirely, and you do not tell them you cannot do that, they will feel obligated to cut the dose as low as they can go before you insist they stop and fill your prescription.

          • Tiny kaiju

            The new regulations specifically make exceptions for cancer patients and end of life care. Granny with bad arthritis might be better off with a lower dose of Oxy and more of a different class of drug. It depends on the knowledge of the prescriber, the indication for use, access to other pain management for patients, how likely is diversion that the prescriber is unaware of (don’t leave opioids where other people can knick them) and other things that my squishy brain can’t thing of at the moment.

          • h4rr4r

            And these regulations come from the AMA?
            These are private medical decisions best left between a patient and doctor. Lawyers aren’t doctors.

          • Tiny kaiju

            They do have backing by physicians. Emergency room docs don’t love treating ODs because Doctor Feelgood is saving up for a bigger boat or some kids had a party with meds they stole from the family medicine cabinet.
            Some doctors do not care what their “patients” use the opioids for, a lot more don’t understand the risks of opioid prescription for acute pain, or how to dosing appropriately. Hydrocodone is now a C2 controlled substance because docs didn’t have to go through the extra steps involved in prescribing it. So you ended up with people getting prescriptions for 60 tabs after dental surgery or continued prescriptions long after they recovered from surgery for people who ended up the a physiological addiction or started abusing because they knew it would be available. Fentanyl patches have a black box warning about use in acute pain because a number of patients have died due to inappropriate prescribing as well as abuse or accidental ingestion. You can’t assume all prescribers are knowledgeable and honest any more than you can assume all patients are.

          • h4rr4r

            Who wrote them? Who enforces them?

            What physicians? Mine?

            You are blaming the wrong folks. Those writing the rules made the change. I don’t care why they wrote them, they are reprehensible.

            I don’t assume all doctors are knowledgeable, in fact I am sure the physicians backing these rules are the least knowledgeable. If they are willing to trade away customized treatment, that much ia clear.

      • Lefty Wright

        But if you find a GP in a town of 1,000 who is prescribing that amount for 50 people, there is likely a serious problem. Very few people need a 10 mg oxy every 4 hours for pain. Finding even 10 people in a small town getting prescriptions for that much oxy should raise flags. On that basis, there are likely 100 getting prescriptions for just as much hydrocodone. Some people are selling it, others are using too much. The idea is to keep the pain level tolerable, not to wipe it out entirely. If you take enough to take away all the pain, you cannot function.

        • h4rr4r

          Or maybe that town of 1000 is where the local pain treatment clinic is.

          • Lefty Wright

            Right. A pain management clinic in Bumfuck West Virginia, population 1,000, countywide, 6,000. No, that is a pill mill. I can “what if” as well as you can.

          • h4rr4r

            Fine, let’s say it is.
            Now we have addicts using clean drugs produced under regulated conditions and not ODing. We close the pill mill, do you think ODs will go up or down?

            Again my Mother’s hospital is no a pill mill, but they are rural and have an older patient population so they are constantly dealing with this.

          • Lefty Wright

            My sister in law had the same problem, but the hospitals around here were taking the opposite approach. She had several collapsed vertebra up and down her spine. She even had an electronic nerve stimulator. She was on oxycodone three times a day. The problem was that she live alone for several years and would take too much the first three weeks and run out the last 5 days. Of course, being in severe pain. But she was often like a zombie when she took too much. She entered a nursing home who regulated her medication and she was much better off. But she had recurring bouts of pneumonia requiring her to be hospitalized. The problem was they did not continue her oxycodone when she was released, so we had to fight the nursing home to keep it going. She also took methotrexate once a week for severe psoriasis, and the hospital never included that in the discharge medications either. So for the first two weeks after she got back, she was in severe pain, and after the first week, had oozing rashes all over her body. This happened three times before we finally got the problem straightened out permanently. So I’m not saying there are never any screw ups on medication. But she would have died of an overdose if she had more pain medication at home. In her situation, I think it was the hubris of the doctors who only saw her for a few days in the hospital and thought they knew what the best long term treatment was, or just failed to read ALL of her chart.

          • mailman27

            The thing is, primary care docs where I live absolutely refuse to prescribe opioids due to the hysteria surrounding them. So patients are directed to the tender mercies of the local hospital’s Pain Management clinic, which is staffed by well-intentioned receptionists, physician assistants, and a doctor every three months or so. You could call it a pill mill if you didn’t know any better, but it’s actually the only game in town.

        • Lordpnut

          Fair enough, but that conversation should be between doctor and patient, not patient and DEA.

    • notaten

      My nephew-in-law hasd a prescription for 30 Vicodin, which he filled every month at the local Walgreens. One month, my niece got to looking at the bottle, and thought, hmmm, this doesn’t look like 30 pills. So, she counts the pills in the bottle, and sure enough there are only 20 pills. They turn around and go back to the pharmacy, explain the problem expecting a lot of questions. Guy at the pharmacy says no problem, gives them 10 more pills no questions asked. My niece speaks to the manager, and he says oh, shit happens, mistakes are made sometimes.etc. At this point, my niece is getting concerned, because if 10 pills can disappear out of every prescription, where are they going, and why does no one care? The manager offered her a gift card to make her go away and QUIT ASKING QUESTIONS!!! Well! Niece comes home breathing fire, and calls the DA, the State Pharmacy people, and the DEA. End result, nothing, as far as we know. No. One. Cares. Is what I’m saying.

    • gingerwentworth1

      Because wasn’t Paul Ryan going to make it his business to teach people in the slums to have good characters?
      That was his poverty program I think.
      You know, regulations only strangle the market. So please don’t bring that up again.

  • Enter Ranting

    Drumpf knows the best 24-year-old kids.

  • Sharon Cooper

    Yeah, I’m fairly certain Trumpikins is snorting cocaine, so…

  • ken_kukec

    President Merkin Muffley had his Strangelove; President Trump, his Dr. Gorka.

    • John Thorstensen

      “Of COURSE I’m upset, Dimitri …. “

  • Enter Ranting

    How long before that really incriminating photo he posted on Facebook a couple years ago surfaces?

  • Bebecca

    trump hires only the best 24-year olds.

    • Carrie Scott

      Well, we do know that he’s just such as stable genius./s

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    So Trump’s drug policies is just recycled DARE education talkign points and “Just Say No “. Because why change something that worked so well /s lets just hope Trump doesnt claim he coined the slogan “Just say no”

  • Ducksworthy

    Supplying meth to the Komander in Chief gave him an edge. But the high didn’t last. (It did help with the Dementia screening though.)

    • SadDemInTex

      OMG 😮 I didn’t think of that! He probably took that ADHD Drug!!!

  • Bitter Scribe

    If the ONDCP budget were cut to zero, would anyone really notice or care?

  • thixotropic jerk

    The local police newsletter about 15 years ago published the results of a study (nope don’t have the source because a) fake news, b) I am making it up to prove my point [see (a)] and/or c) I believe it and so should you and if you don’t you must be an asshole who hates Amurka) about families and drugs which showed that families with moderate drug use (“drug” in this definition was mostly weed and booze I think) tended to raise kids without addiction issues in greater numbers than families with parents who were either zero tolerance teetotalers or substance abusers themselves. ¡Quêll sorprise! Drugs don’t kill but extreme views about drugs that you pass on to your progeny kills. So: “Just Say Occasionally”

    • Rooster Cogburn105

      What did Barry Goldwater say about extremism and moderation again? I had a little more than my usual that night he said it.

  • thixotropic jerk

    Perfect deputy drug czar name: Takemore Whitemeth

  • grindstone

    The chip on my shoulder this week is gargantuan, and this article isn’t helping. Opioid crisis ASIDE, I fucking hate people who lie on their resumes, and then get promotions that they don’t deserve, and screw over people who actually make the gears mesh and go ’round. Fuck ’em. I just spent most of a week listening to total gomers who are directors of this or directors of that try to teach me how to suck eggs, and I’m just DONE.

  • Tony Prost

    He’s cute. I’d tap that!

    • Rooster Cogburn105

      As a boring, married, straight guy, whatever floats your boat!

  • miss_grundy

    What makes these Dotard asshats believe that “Just Say No” will work in 2018 when it didn’t work during the 80s? It really is true that everything old is new again. Especially with this crowd.

    • gingerwentworth1

      Poor people, foreign people, drug addicted people, aren’t people to conservatives. When other countries hate us, they never think why? Just, we have to crush them if they hate us. Like Iran, who we did a terrible thing to– we overthrew their elected leader and put in the hideous shah, just for our convenience. But so what?
      If so many poor people get mired in drugs it doesn’t occur to them to think about the effects of life in those places. They could fix Detroit and employ all those unemployed young men, and train them in construction or how to tear down those miles of buildings. They could do a million things because those things like public works as stimulus, pay for themselves. Republicans just hate to do them anyway, because stimulus is always giving something for nothing.
      There’s a kind of stimulus for businesses– quantitative easing. But if you ask money guys—bankers and brokers– they deny that it’s stimulus. It’s not stimulus! It’s quantitative easing! they say. It’s pure government giving, but giving to their own kind of people. People who don’t need it!

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      Think about it…when has experience ever taught these morans anything?

  • Fancy Meau-Faux

    JUST SAY NO!!!!

    It’s super easy. I mean I said “No” just last night. Mostly because I was already drunk and I don’t like being drunk and high at the same time.

  • Zyxomma

    Just say bro.

    • kirby7771

      Lovely.

  • the fig leaf is getting flimsier and flimsier.

  • Kryptonian Canis

    Better put him on double-secret probation for lying on his resume.
    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UomlFv9htPw/maxresdefault.jpg

  • Delu

    Trump has done literally fuck all nothing for the opoid emergency that he has called “bad”.

    Yeah.

  • Upright Ape

    Originally Jared was gonna fix all that opioid shit but was too busy getting fitted for his traditional “Kushner Family Prison Chastity Belt”.

  • Nick.Trite

    Just remember kids, when your doctor tries to prescribe you pain killers for your blinding pain, just say no!

    • mailman27

      Just wipe the water outta your eyes, open ’em up, and you’ll be seeing again in no time!

    • Well, actually yes.

    • gingerwentworth1

      That’s so. That’s the righteous way. Don’t be a snowflake!

  • leslie

    is that s t o r m y daniels in the backround…or another pornstar hes banging…he has a type…clearly

  • Poly_Ester

    Taylor may be the son donnie wished that he’d had, when Ivana could only birth him Jr. and Eric.

  • progressiveredneck

    HOLY SHIT! Stephen Miller in drag just behind Trumps left shoulder. Either I need some opioids after this or I gotta quit them after this memory searing moment.

  • The Very Stable Librarian

    “they’re sending incompetent douchebros who can’t even find the mens room without using Waze.” That’s just perfect, the kid probably would have fit right in. :P

  • godsaidHA

    Cousin died of overdose last year, my niece died of opioid heroin combo last week. We tried to help but couldn’t, not enough.

    • gingerwentworth1

      Very sorry. Very sorry.

      • godsaidHA

        Thanks for your kind words.

      • gingerwentworth1

        I suppose you remember your niece as a sweet little girl. That’s what I can imagine in your words.

        • godsaidHA

          She was. We all miss her.

    • Phoenixdoglover

      I am very sorry.

      In 2012, my wife died from a heroin overdose. Clean for 7 years. Relapsed for 3 days.

      There is very little you can do in the short term if they are running away faster than you can follow.

      The negligence of the Drumpf administration is profound. In line with high crimes and misdemeanors.

      • godsaidHA

        Thank you. The same thing happened with my niece: she’d been clean for several months, relapsed once. Her mother says that the dose wasn’t high but that her tolerance was low.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        I completely agree… and I am so sorry for your loss.
        For all the losses.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      How awful. I am so sorry.

  • I’ll bet ya a Speedball the Trump Drug Czar DOES NOT have to pee in a cup in order to get the job.
    https://i.imgflip.com/1f7nyi.jpg

  • WIDTAP

    When he was in high school, Weyeneth was “Director of Production” for Nature’s Chemistry, a family firm in Skaneateles, N.Y., that specialized in processing chia seeds and other health products. One résumé said he served in that job from 2008 to 2013, and two others indicate he stopped working there in September 2011.

    In the summer and fall of 2011, the firm was secretly processing illegal steroids from China as part of a conspiracy involving people from Virginia, California and elsewhere in the United States and one person in China, federal court records show. Weyeneth’s stepfather, Matthew Greacen, pleaded guilty to a felony conspiracy charge last year and received two years probation and a fine.

    They sound nice. At least with the experience processing illegal steroids, he had experience.

    • Mikst Granny

      Aha! Heir Doctor & Nurse Fraulein!
      We Have Found The Truth Of Our Young Drug Czar’s Recent Departure!

      Besides Falsifying His Resume Regarding His Tenure At A Law Firm For 9-10 Months & Getting Canned For Failure To Show Up, Young Weyeneth Also Failed To Mention This Employment, Eh? Sadly, The Young Man May Himself Be In Need Of Treatment and Not Just For Being A Pathological Liar Like His Hero, #45??

  • ibwilliamsi

    They took the HIV/AIDS budget and gave it to this kid for it. I have no snark left.

  • NotConvinced

    Listening to Kellyanne is like having a metal grinder on my ear.

    • justjoseph

      Yeah, I agree…please dont subject your viewers to anymore puking out of obvious bullshit from this lying witch. Its why I dont watch FOX

  • NotConvinced

    The drug czar liked coke, Justin Beiber and worked at Mar-A-Lago as a coat checker/ball washer.

  • Helper Monkey

    “OR … they’re not sending their best people.” OR…they ARE sending their best people and this is their best.

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