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Guy who watches TV all day wants work requirements for healthcare

The Trump administration has rolled out a great new idea to allow states to impose work requirements on able-bodied Medicaid recipients. For 50 years, Medicaid has been treated primarily as a healthcare program that helps low-income people, but now the administration is officially enshrining the Republican view that it’s just one more form of welfare for greedy takers who just need a good shaming to make them stop being poor.

The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) sent a 10-page letter to state Medicaid directors giving them authorization to make receiving Medicaid benefits conditional on having a job, being in school or a job-training program, proving they’re a caregiver for someone, or taking part in some other “community engagement” approved by the state. Now, before you get all “ARE THEY GONNA MAKE NURSING HOME RESIDENTS WORK IN COAL MINES,” the letter is quite clear that states can only throw people off healthcare for not working if they’re “non-elderly, non-pregnant adult Medicaid beneficiaries who are eligible for Medicaid on a basis other than disability.” So relax! Sending Meemaw to the coal mines is Phase III, and won’t even be considered until CHIP reauthorization is made conditional on the repeal of child labor laws.

As many as 10 states are already waiting for federal approval to impose work requirements on Medicaid recipients, and another three are mulling it over. The first waiver, probably for Kentucky, could get the go-ahead by Friday, according to sources who spoke to the Washington Post.

For what little it’s worth, the Post notes,

[Most] health policy experts, including a few noted conservatives, have regarded the government insurance enabling millions of people to afford medical care as a right that should not hinge on individuals’ compliance with other rules.

So much for that shit. While this isn’t a national work requirement, it’s definitely an invitation to red states to start tossing up creative roadblocks to low-income adults who need medical care. Because, you know, work is a very good thing, and it probably just hadn’t occurred to most poor people that maybe they should get a job instead of sitting around all the time. When CMS director Seema Verba was sworn in back in March of last year, she sent a letter to governors soliciting “innovations that build on the human dignity that comes with training, employment and independence.” Lord knows these bastards are fairly bursting with ideas to make people in poverty more dignified, the slobs.

The CMS letter perversely harnesses data showing that people with productive employment are healthier and live longer into the service of a plan to take away people’s healthcare if they fail to get steady work:

Maybe Michael Wolff has it wrong in that book Donald Trump Is A Tire Fire — looks like confusing causes and effects isn’t a problem that’s limited to Donald Trump. You know what all those studies really indicate? They show that not being poor is good for your health, not that people who are forced to jump through more and more hoops to get healthcare are healthier. Still, maybe we could borrow a line from their rationale there: Since it’s widely recognized that education can lead to improved health, how about we make community college tuition waivers available to anyone who qualifies for Medicaid? It’s a thought.

Fortunately, critics of the plan are already planning lawsuits. Leonard Cuello, the health policy director at the National Health Law Program, told WaPo, “It’s not a good idea, and it’s illegal.”

Cuello said the argument that work promotes health is “totally contorted . . . It’s a little like saying that rain causes clouds. It’s more that people [with Medicaid] get care, which helps them be healthy and makes them able to work.”

What kind of bizarro liberal logic is that? Next you’ll be saying that tax cuts for the rich won’t increase middle-class employment!

The “you gotta work” argument is especially evil because most people receiving Medicaid are already working, according to a December 2017 study by the Kaiser Family Foundation. 60 percent of adults receiving Medicaid work, and nearly 80 percent are in a family where at least one person is working. Workers on Medicaid tend — obviously — to be employed in low-wage jobs in which they still make so little that they still qualify for assistance, even if they work full-time. Their employers almost never offer work-based health insurance, because isn’t that what Medicaid’s for? And, not surprisingly, the rate of working adults on Medicaid is much higher in the South, home of “right to work” laws, hooray.

Of the 40 percent who aren’t employed, the study also found most faced “major impediments” to employment. This shit’s important, so we hope you won’t mind if we copy-paste the overview here:

The suggested guidelines would allow exemptions from work requirements for many of the folks who aren’t currently working, such as caregivers, people in school, or people with disabilities, but the catch is that those exemptions would be determined at a state level, using the guidelines states already use for eligibility in other programs with work requirements, like Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) or the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) — aka food stamps.

As the KFF study argues, throwing up more administrative barriers to people getting healthcare isn’t likely to be good for anyone. Applicants who would be otherwise eligible may have trouble meeting the new paperwork requirements for proof of employment (or of a qualifying exemption). It will also add to costs for the states, since they’ll be adding a new layer of bureaucracy to screen Medicaid recipients.

And if most people currently getting Medicaid are already working, or seem to have a good reason not to be working (which may win them an exemption from the work requirement), then why the hell is a work requirement needed in the first goddamn place? That’s simple: You gotta tighten the screws on poor people, because no matter what the reality is, Republicans just know life in poverty is an endless funtimes parade of free stuff. The goal here is to add more barriers to people living the high life on Medicaid, and the result will be fewer people getting the medical care that really can improve their job prospects. Topher Spiro, of the Center for American Progress, sums up the rationale in this excellent Twitter thread:

A 2016 study by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities found that, for programs like TANF and SNAP, imposing work requirements didn’t actually improve employment among poor people.

The exception: programs that didn’t just require looking for work or showing proof of employment, but which improved education and good job-skills training. The best such programs actually did help more people escape poverty. But those cost money, so Medicaid told states they can’t use Medicaid funds to pay for them. (Though Maine Governor Paul LePage can use TANF funds for Christian after-school programs.) Why would we want to shower even more benefits on the poors when they’re already living it up with their refrigerators and color TVs and Obamaphones?

In totally unrelated news, President Donald Trump’s work day today begins at 1:30 p.m. Eastern.

[WaPo / Kaiser Family Foundation / Center on Budget and Policy Priorities / Topher Spiro on Twitter]

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  • Cousin Itt, hoi polloi

    Will die for health care.

    • Martini A, very stable genius

      As if you had any choice in the matter.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Yeah…so forget Tai Chi…

    I’mma start takin MMA classes to channel my rage.

  • Shibusa

    And can the states also impose work requirements on able-bodied so-called Presidents? Because the one currently occupying the WH does very little outside of TV-watching, spray-tanning, rage-tweeting, and golf-vacationing.

    • SomeBigRedDog

      Hey, that hair doesn’t do itself you know.

      Or does it? . . . *shivers*

      • PubOption

        We don’t know what Donnie does with his hairdresser. Someone should check his extra TV’s for glue from duct tape.

      • wide_stance_hubby

        5-dimensional combover and over and over and under and around.

    • calliecallie

      Fuck the work requirements. Just show me his tax returns.

  • Christopher Story

    And the same people who screamed about the FEMA death camps will champion the forced labor camps to come.

    • Meccalopolis

      Arbeit Macht Frei

      • Christopher Story

        War Is Peace
        Freedom Is Slavery
        Ignorance Is Strength

        • Beelzebubba

          Trump is Genius

        • wide_stance_hubby

          Suspicion Breeds Confidence

  • Oblios_Cap

    American greatness requires that we be one of the only countries (if not the only one) where basic healthcare is not considered a human right.

    USA! USA!

    • ManchuCandidate

      US Amercian exceptionalism!

  • TheFamilyThalamusPersists
  • Jeffocaster in the West

    OT: In a new climate study, the International Despot Tracking Consortium has determined that Preznit Trumfuckface behavior has enraged so many people in the world, that the average temperature have risen 1 degree Centigrade since his inauguration. World leaders have ask that he step down for the good of the planet…..

  • Oblios_Cap

    Well, that’s one way to decrease the surplus population.

  • ManchuCandidate

    The only sweating he has done is while eating… walking, talking, breathing and pooping.

    • Gayer Than Thou

      I bet Melon could tell a different story.

      • PubOption

        Eww.

    • MynameisBlarney

      And pewpin’.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    Well, just because it’s never worked before and is unlikely to work now is no reason not to do something that’s politically popular among the kinds of people who thought we’d make this country great by (not actually) electing a lying, racist, delusional moron and letting him hire only people who can prove that they’re abysmally unqualified for the job they want.
    You liberals with your science and facts and shit.

  • Gayer Than Thou

    O/T: breaking news – I may be switching to bobsledders. This is the U.S. Olympic Bobsled team. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fade2584cc2515d980b1a5e626e699a7f6bb86b0a681ba05fd95ee39b3bcf70f.jpg

    • msanthropesmr

      That’s an impressive moustache on the the left there.

      • Like Really Smart Radio

        Right? He caught my eye too!

      • Beelzebubba

        I’m surprised they don’t object to the wind resistance that thing generates.

        • MynameisBlarney

          It’s to give the other teams a chance.

          • Beelzebubba

            The Jamaicans are grateful, I’m sure.

          • aureolaborealis

            It’s to give the other teams the fear.

        • Lascauxcaveman

          Full-face helmets. Very aero.

      • WIDTAP

        The new 2018 USA Bobsled Team, now with FrostGuard (TM)

      • Bright Bart
      • PubOption

        Looks like a soldier from WWI.

    • puredog

      Why not both?

    • TheGrandWazoo2

      A decision you’ll have to wrestle with.

    • Oblios_Cap

      The wrestlers will be disappointed.

    • SDGeoff3

      The best bobsledding suits. Damn!!

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Dibs on the standing guy second from the right. And two over from him and the one . . . .

      • Gayer Than Thou

        Fairness – and support for our Olympic athletes – dictate trying them all.

    • WIDTAP

      There is going to come a point where we will be unable to tell the difference between 2018 bobsledders and 1880 bobsledders, at least not by the facial hair.

      • OutOfOrbit

        back row far left nails it!

        • WIDTAP

          Plus at least four neck beards. I’m surprised that the suits don’t include waistcoats.

    • wide_stance_hubby

      All of them, Gayer.

      I tried for a Neal & Bob pun, but it just would not come to me.

    • major_asshole

      The American bobsledding team, sponsored by…

      …uh, BMW?? Wat.

  • msanthropesmr
    • Gayer Than Thou

      That may leave a mark, because he fetishizes white blue-collar workers.

      • msanthropesmr

        He doesn’t give a shit about anyone but donnie dotard.

  • Scooby

    Can I keep my Medicaid if I am attending Trump University?

  • TootsStansbury

    This country practices barbaric, predatory capitalism. Enough. Off with their heads with votes; especially the shadowy fuckers we don’t get to vote for.

    • canes_pugnaces

      White, poor, illiterate America can’t get enough of having their faces smashed into the dirt.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        They’ve earned their enserfment.

  • canes_pugnaces

    Yeah, the woman on medicaid in my building who can’t work because of obesity and dementia needs to be president. She knows as much, could handle the hours, and would have free medical. Hell we all should.

    • goonemeritus

      Well clearly Dementia holds no negative stigma with todays Republican electorate.

      • canes_pugnaces

        It turns out to be intellectually compatible with the majority of Fox News, Breitbart, etc., readers who think the current slime mold of a president is playing 4D chess.

        • goonemeritus

          He is playing 4D chess, the problem is he thinks he is playing checkers.

  • TJ Barke

    Say, you know one thing that helps people find employment? Being healthy in the first place.

    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      Hahahaha libtard logic, aka reality.

  • MynameisBlarney

    And now James Franco is being accused by 5 women of sexually exploitative behavior.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-james-franco-allegations-20180111-htmlstory.html

    • Oblios_Cap

      But… he said he didn’t do it.

      • puredog

        Actually, what he said was that it was so important that these conversations are happening, and he believes in them so strongly, that he was not going to engage in any refutation he might be able to, because it was so important that these things be said and he supported these women fully in saying them. Some really world-class spin, that.

        • Beelzebubba

          Certainly leaves me dizzy.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      “I feel there was an abuse of power, and there was a culture of exploiting non-celebrity women, and a culture of women being replaceable,” said Tither-Kaplan, who was one of many women who took to Twitter on Sunday night to vent anger over Franco’s win.

      She told The Times that in a nude orgy scene she filmed with Franco and several women three years ago, he removed protective plastic guards covering other actresses’ vaginas while simulating oral sex on them.

      Tell us how this is equal to “flirting,” Catherine Deneuve…

      /FFS

      • theblackdog

        JFC the fuck is wrong with you Franco!?

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        That’s disgusting.

    • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

      Remember when everyone blew off this story?

      http://people.com/celebrity/james-franco-allegedly-hits-on-underage-girl-on-instagram/

      “Franco has since been bombarded on Twitter and Instagram about his interest in underage girls. The actor cryptically fired back through social media, telling parents to watch their kids’ activity online.

      I’M NOT! I HOPE PARENTS KEEP THEIR TEENS AWAY FROM ME. Thank you http://t.co/I1d4n3yVe0

      — James Franco (@JamesFrancoTV) April 2, 2014

      • MynameisBlarney

        I don’t remember that actually.

        • Beelzebubba

          Somehow, it didn’t make the NYT front page. Or back page, or any page in between. Sad.

    • Christopher Story

      John Oliver has been making jokes implying Franco being a creep for a while now. I had wondered what that was all about.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    I need mood music for this post:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpa7wEAz7I

  • Martini A, very stable genius

    The solution to all this is to not get born poor. If you need inspiration, just look to the guy sitting in the Oval—born rich and now president*!

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    OT but my teevee machine made me cry this morning. I couldn’t sleep and was feverish and flicking around the channels when I ran across a piece of video from 2015 of President Obama singing “Amazing Grace” at the memorial to the Charleston shooting victims, and I just lost it.
    What the everloving fuck, America, that we went from that to what we’re enduring now?

    • RickyG

      If only he had not been…
      blah

    • MynameisBlarney

      Russia helped too.
      Don’t forget that.
      And don’t ever let the turmp supporting morons forget that either.

    • canes_pugnaces

      There’s so much blame to go around. The only solution is bring out the fucking vote this time. All the lazy-assed fuckers whose feeling were all hurt because Sanders lost the primary… they need to get the fuck over it and vote from school house to state house to White House (thank you Wonkette for allowing my expletive-riddled post).

    • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

      They literally had to lie, cheat and steal to win the electoral college. They did not win the majority…or our hearts and minds.

  • Parakeetist

    Take a sick person and make them work a lot. Everybody around them catches what they have, or they die.

    When we’re all dead, we can take off work.

  • Gayer Than Thou
    • major_asshole

      Huh. Didn’t know James May did A Christmas Carol. Neat!

  • Oblios_Cap

    I’m glad that our political classes know that we don’t need any health care provided while we pay to give them lifetime care.

  • Crystalclear12

    Are there no workhouses?!

    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      Yes, we have private prisons….

      oh wait..

      • major_asshole

        And, apparently, ICE detention facilities…

    • Toledo Window Box

      The White House used to be a place where people worked quite hard.

  • Beelzebubba

    So long as Wal-Mart employees qualify, saving Wal-Mart the unreasonable expense of providing employee health insurance, this will pass muster with the Rethugs.

    • Oblios_Cap

      And Wal-Mart can just call the local cops rather than provide store security.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        but they’re SUPER PROFITABLE! GREAT INVESTMENT!

        sigh, I HATE that I shop at wal-mart so much.

  • msanthropesmr

    I am taking advantage of a sick day today, so I am not infecting my coworkers. You know, I feel better having slept.

    I used to never take sick days. Now, I do. I heal much faster this way. Neat.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Sick days should really be tied to a work requirement. The data shows that sick people who work are healthier than sick people who stay home.

      • theblackdog

        Wait, so I should come in when I’m sick so that I can be healthier? I wanna see this data!

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    OT (but speaking of lazy) – babby kitty woke up from her nap and then chirped hello to me on her way to the (nearby) food dish.

    Oh to be a cat.

    • DrBigHead

      I hope for your sake there was food in the bowl.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        oh there was – if not, they would have worked together to make sure of it.

    • puredog

      Cats chirp?

      • Like Really Smart Radio

        They do, and it’s adorable!

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        some do – it’s how she says hello to me, every day, every time. (That was my hypothesis and some cat expert said its what they do as a greeting. Sort of a “hey, ‘sup” thing)

        • DrBigHead

          I had a cat who did the same thing “Chirp” was the best way to describe it.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            it’s sort of a high pitched “brrrrt” – although it sounds, or i interpret the sound, as quite cheery.

          • TootsStansbury

            I read it’s called a trill. It’s really cute.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            yes! A trill, thank you.

          • DrBigHead

            Yes, that is probably a better description

        • SomeBigRedDog

          Nah man. That chirp is a death threat.

    • Hiss

      Truly, cats are the Chosen Critters. Well, except for the strays, of course. But I try to alleviate that.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        two of our 3 were strays. Babby kitty was left in a box on the curb (in the june desert sun, fuckers).

        • SweetDeeKat

          Now I need to see photo of babby kitty. Please?

          • Dept. of Space Tacos
          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            she is no longer that small.
            “IT’S MY WINTER COAT” – Babby Kitty

          • SweetDeeKat

            Squee! I LUV HER.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            get this – she, for some reason (I’m thinking past owners may have mistreated her : ( ) doesn’t like to be petted wiht hands unless she’s SUPER chill.

            Feet, on the other hand. Sometimes she sees me and r uns over and stares at my feet, “Come on fat boy, give ’em up.”

            She likes when I use my feet to pet her head.
            Maybe they smell like sausage.
            (I’d see a doctor about that, but I don’t have a job or healthcare.)

      • SomeBigRedDog

        Harrumph

    • (((Sedagive)))

      I LOVE the kitty chirp!

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        i get one every day! sometimes two or three times a day.

        (update, she is now in the backyard “adventurin'”)

        • (((Sedagive)))

          Our most recent kitty is also a chirper. So much so that I’m trying (and probably failing) to chirp back.

  • Beelzebubba

    Modern takes on the old glass-half-full puzzler:

    Republican: “Immigrants and lazy colored people took the other half.”
    Democrat: “The 1% took the other half, and they’re out to get the rest.”
    Scientist: “The glass is full, half with water and half with air.”
    Engineer: “The glass is bigger than it needs to be.”
    Inspector from the U.S. Department of Liquid Container Standards: “The glass fails to meet the mandatory 110% margin of safety.”
    Trump-appointed Director of the U.S. Department of Liquid Container Standards: “Never mind. Poor people don’t need that much water.”

    • msanthropesmr

      Alex Jones: A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That’s the way your hard-core Commie works.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Waterglasstrails!

        • NellCote71

          Which brings us back to Watergate. The circle of life indeed.

    • Toledo Window Box

      Salesman: clearly, you need to buy a new glass.

    • TootsStansbury

      Nestle Corp. “Water is not a human right”.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      Lawyer: The glass may half full or half empty….depends on the statute.

      • Beelzebubba

        Or just “It depends.” (For a thousand dollars, we’ll tell you.)

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          tis better your way. I was sleepy and over-extended the joke.

          : (

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          p.s. That’s my stock answer when I don’t know things in my substantive law classes – lawyers tell me its a good approach for law school too.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    This man cannot be at room temperature a moment too soon.

  • goonemeritus

    I read the pie-chart and I didn’t see the percentage of people not working because they are too busy screaming at their TV while watching Fox and Friends.

    • CripesAmighty

      That’s an automatic exemption –as is popping oxy.

      • theblackdog

        Works for Rush Limbaugh!

  • NellCote71

    I find this article neither sufficiently funny nor snarky. I do not wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Can’t win ’em all. Only so many dick jokes to go around.

      Also needs more recipe.

    • doktorzoom

      Oh, come on, the Meemaw in the coal line joke was pretty funny.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        “Donald Trump is a Tire Fire” was funny. I LOL’d.

        • doktorzoom

          It’s a surprisingly adaptable title.

      • NellCote71

        Yes, Doc, it was. The rest was just so depressing.

    • amrak63

      Nell, you forgot the snark tags. I almost thought you were either a wingnut or a Purity Leftist.

      • NellCote71

        Oops.

  • Indiepalin

    Are there no steakhouses?

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “We’re thinking people don’t have enough reason to hate living here.”
    — America’ Red States

  • OrG Unstable Genius

    This will piss off a lot of trumpkins. Boy are they gonna be mad at Obummer.

  • greyXstar

    People need to have to have the good sense to be born wealthy.

    • Toledo Window Box

      He’s a self-made rich guy, he tells us every chance he gets.

      • greyXstar

        At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if he really thinks he started with nothing and made a fortune legit. I mean he is the world’s greatest human, after all.

  • Or, and I know this is crazy, we can admit to ourselves that the free market screws over some people and create a genuine national public health care plan, impose a living wage requirement on employers, and make the government the employer of last resort?

    You know… the OPPOSITE of the supply side bullshit we’ve been trying for the last forty years that has only made life more miserable for the poor?

    • Villago Delenda Est

      This would make too much sense, and would pass Jesus’ smell test. We can’t have that.

    • OrG Unstable Genius

      COMMIE

    • pstokk

      HA nobody’s ever got that to work. I mean except Canada, Australia and Western Europe, and other places that don’t count.

    • amrak63

      I would support that, but too many of my fellow non-elite white folks would rather do without all of that than let non-white folks get any of it, because my fellow ofay honky mofos are mean and stupid.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    I’m starting to think the Executive branch has WAY too much power.

    Also too:
    “soliciting “innovations that build on the human dignity that comes with training, employment and independence.”

    Has this person worked? Very little dignity, at least for us “regular” folk.

    (A few years ago, I was doing data entry, 8 hours of looking at a scan and then typing the numbers. Apparently someone purposely broke a toilet in the men’s room. All of us men were called into the break room and told we weren’t leaving or working till the person fessed up or we each took a turn cleaning it up. I wasn’t on the productivity bonus plan so I thought ,”sweet, I get to sit here, get paid, do nothing and leave at the end of the shift, cause there ain’t no WAY they can make me clean a bathroom or keep me here after my shift.)

  • Toledo Window Box

    Yeah, I’m pretty sure Trump doesn’t get irony.

    Like when he said yesterday that we have to change the libel laws because it’s so unfair somebody can lie about you and profit from it.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Donald seems to be under the impression that libel/slander/defamation laws are all on the federal level, when in fact we let the states deal with that minor shit.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      He doesn’t get cause-and-effect, which is fairly obvious compared to the subtleties of irony. Are we really surprised by his using this analogy?

    • OneYieldRegular

      somebody can lie about you and profit from it

      Isn’t that Trump’s entire Presidency in a nutshell?

    • (((Sedagive)))

      Hillary’s lawsuit would be glorious. GLORIOUS!

  • Stulexington

    ” … why the hell is a work requirement needed in the first goddamn place?” Because employers need even more control over the lives of their employees. Now, not only do you have to worry about needing to get a new job if your boss has a bad hair day, you also need to worry about getting your medical treatment.

    • NellCote71

      If you are a woman, you really don’t have to worry your pretty little head about medical care because they keep chipping away at it.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Also, we stopped paying for prenatal care after we were born, all those little brats are on their own now.

  • Bub, the like, cynical zombie

    Obama was 175lbs at the time of his 2016 physical. Donnie is sticking to a strict daily regimen of fast food, slabs of red meat, vanilla ice cream and no exercise so he can show the world he’s twice the man Obama is.
    https://twitter.com/SovietSergey/status/951496331855527936

    • MynameisBlarney

      Wrong!

      Turmps steaks are cooked past well done.

      • Stulexington

        Oh god, I just had a glimpse into Trumps mind … he thinks cooking it past well done makes it even better done.

        • Beelzebubba

          Terrifically done. Bigly.

    • Toledo Window Box

      Why is this Russian spy tweeting this?

    • JohnBull

      The GOP-patented Freedom Diet.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    So, I work at a grocery chain. None of my coworkers can afford to take off time when they’re sick. One guy has been there about 3 months and in that time he’s had pneumonia, he’s had a fucking STROKE, and he’s had the flu at least twice that I know of. He comes to work and works his full shift and they ask him to stay late because they know he needs the money and he’ll say yes even if he’s the next thing to literally dead on his feet. They had him pushing carts on the lot in 24-degree weather WHILE he had pneumonia. He’s about 24 years old. His mother is disabled. His sister is 15. His dad is dying.
    When my co-worker dies, which he will, and fairly damn soon if this keeps up, and our beloved goobernator Matt Bevin cuts off his mom’s benefits because she’s a worthless taker, they’ll get a four-fer: they’ll have eliminated an entire family by deciding that they really don’t deserve to live, but they’ll dress it up in pretty words like “self satisfaction” and everyone will vote red again in November because Kentucky is a stupid fucking place to live.
    GRRRRSMASHRAGEGRRRFURYMELTINGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
    I think I need to take a walk or something.

    • Like Really Smart Radio

      I think maybe you’re the only good thing about Kentucky, GGY. Well, you and Mammoth Cave.

    • DrBigHead

      For the “or something”, take advantage of the only good thing Kentucky produces.

      • Like Really Smart Radio

        Bourbon?

        • DrBigHead

          “Touches nose”.

        • ImGoingBacon

          a horse race?

      • Shibusa

        Racehorses?

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      what’s weird and pisses me off about that whole, “are you really sick though? can’t you come in?” crap is that it’s usually a net loss to the co. Sick people come in and stay sick longer and infect other people.

      Flu season, eh, people are going to get sick, but one person has a cold and is forced or feels obligated to come in, now instead of losing two days for one employee over a week, you’re losing maybe 10 days over 3 or 4 employees over the possible course of months.

      In the newsroom, we shared computers and phones and stuff – we would pass colds around to each other for MONTHS.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Oh, of course. When abovementioned coworker gave me the flu the first time, I had to call in the day after Thanksgiving. They actually had a boss call me back and tell me I needed a doctor’s excuse. I said, “Um, I’m 57 years old, I know what’s wrong with me, I know what to do to fix it, and anyway I don’t have health insurance that anyone around here takes.” The guy basically kept saying, “Yes, but” until finally I said, “look, I feel like crap, I’m broke, and I’m not going to the doctor. Fire me if you want,” and didn’t go in, and didn’t get fired because I do my fucking job.

        • Oblios_Cap

          I call in sick and tell them I’m running a fever, and I’ll be happy to come in and infect you all if you want me to. I always get told to stay home.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        By all means, let’s spread the disease to the rest of the work force and the customers to make more profits for the Nyquil folk.

      • Oblios_Cap

        You peddled Fake News?!?!?

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          fake local news, but yeah…last professional life.

      • Swampay

        Not to mention jobs where you pass that stuff around to your CUSTOMERS

    • canes_pugnaces

      There is a simple reason the Red States suffer: no one wants to live there.

      It’s a very nice post. Thanks.

    • Shibusa

      WTF is wrong with the manager there?

    • Bigly smart jesterpunk

      A company I used to work at got mad because I called out on Christmas eve because I was going to the hospital. The manager called and threatened to fire me for it while I was still in the hospital still groggy from anesthesia and on morphine then when I went back to work accused me of faking it even when I showed him the 20 staples in my stomach.

    • handyhippie65

      i lived in a hollar near regina, ky for a year in the 80’s. as much as i hate indiana, i was never so glad to be home as when i moved back from there. seriously, i wish you all of the luck in the world.

  • Crystalclear12

    OT
    Welp, Bannon just lawyered up.
    Let the games begin!
    Bring forth the sacrifice!

    • Toledo Window Box

      We must find our Scooter Libby!

  • proudgrampa

    So when the Dems take over in 2018, and Fuckweasel is finally removed from office, one piece of legislation is all that would be required to fix things:

    THE “REPEAL EVERYTHING AWFUL THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST TWO (FOUR IF THE WORST HAPPENS) YEARS AND RESTORE THINGS TO THE WAY THEY WERE” ACT

    • (((Sedagive)))

      The “Make America Great Again” Act.

      • Proud Liberal

        That would be sweet revenge!

      • Arolpin

        Respect
        Each
        Member
        Or
        Voter
        Eliminate

        The
        Horrible
        Egrecious

        Stupid
        Trump
        Executive Orders
        Now
        Clean
        House

        Act

        The REMOVE THE STENCH Act

    • Stulexington

      Can I add a single payer rider?

      • proudgrampa

        YES!

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      And we definitely get to call backsies on supreme court appointments.

  • (((Sedagive)))

    You know who else said “Arbeit Macht Frei”?

  • Proud Liberal

    Heartless mother fucker.

  • Proud Liberal

    My one wish in life is that he is stricken with an incurable disease and suffers a long, painful death.

  • Bright Bart

    They’re not NOT working, they just having “Executive Time.”

  • ArgieBargie

    Poors obviously didn’t work hard enough to make sure they were born into a wealthy white family.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Bad choice of parents. Often the cause of poverty.

  • greyXstar

    Small government!! Get it out of everyone’s life!

    Unless you’re LGBT…

    Unless you’re a lady…

    Unless you’re a minority…

    Unless you’re not Christian…

    Unless you’re poor…

    Unless you’re sick…

    Unless…

    • Stulexington

      Unless you want to do something of which I do not personally approve.

      • greyXstar

        Also, celebrities shouldn’t give their opinions on these kinds of things because they don’t know what they’re talking about

        • Stulexington

          Unless they agree with me, then they should be governor.

        • JohnBull

          Shut up and sing! (Unless you’re a conservative, then “freedom.”)

    • Covfefe

      Please try to understand. The purpose of Christianity is to establish the Kingdom of God on Earth and the purpose of government is to serve the preacher’s writ.

      We don’t need or want government to regulate the good or prosperous people; we need government to assist the Church in keeping the wicked in check.

      • Covfefe

        One other thing. I have been away from home the past week. My daughter says my wife is letting my dog sit in her lap when she drives because “the dog is persistent.” This is how good dogs go bad. A dog gets away with it twice, he gets away with it for life. This is why we need a strong and effective church.

      • greyXstar

        Those undesirables are so… undesirable.

    • Michael R

      Unless you’re Paul Ryan ( who married money )

      • greyXstar

        And look at what a gracious, caring guy he is! He definitely deserves a happy life.

      • Oblios_Cap

        And whose father made money from government contracts. And who got SSN bennies when his father died.

  • TJ Barke

    Until we stop treating poverty as a moral failure, things will not get better.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      We need to start treating egregious accumulation of wealth as a crime.

      • TJ Barke

        Pretty much, seeing as one only generates private wealth by exploitation.

      • TootsStansbury

        Ding ding a ding!

    • Proud Liberal

      Our country needs a good bath. There are so many moral degenerates out there, it makes my stomach turn.

    • msanthropesmr

      It’s not a moral failure for white folks for most of these dumbasses.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Morals just get in the way of becoming rich.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    “Their employers almost never offer work-based health insurance, because isn’t that what Medicaid’s for?”

    Corporate fucking subsidies, right fucking there. Walmart and many many others, (right Mr. and Ms. we’ll hire you for 38 hours a week fast food managers?)

    • Bigly smart jesterpunk

      I used to work at a convenience store when I was younger and we had an older lady working there who refused to take a raise or work more hours. If she did she would lose her medicaid and medicare benefits and wind up having to pay more money to make up what she lost. We need some kind of reform where there is a gradual sliding scale instead of a hard cutoff.

  • Baconzgood

    No snark

    Baconz Ma is 70+ years old. She was 3 of 13 children (yeah we are Irish catholics) and got a job to get out of the house at 15. She was never college educated but pretty bright. She skimped and saved. Put Baconz through school c Baconz older sister through. BOUGHT A HOUSE FOR BACONZ SISTER. She never made more than 40K a year (in 2018 dollars).

    You know how much she gets in Medicare, Medicaid, SSI?

    87.22 a month. That’s a little more than 20 bucks a week. For 60 years of taxes.

    You really can’t cut it ANY FURTHER.

    • Rick Hill

      republicans-“Hold my beer”

      • Baconzgood

        This isn’t an unusual story. In fact it’s WAY TOO COMMON. She was looking into a reverse mortgage until she found out about how they work (she’s great with numbers and real-estate) and said “this is a con job. It should be illegal. The same is true when I went to get a “payday loan”. She said “talk to (baconz uncle’s friend) he won’t charge you 20%. Refuse anything over 2 and 1/4 points over VIG. But you GOT to pay him ASAP”

        Aparently my mom had to go through “alternative lenders” in her life.

        • grindstone

          The reason a lot of Appalachian counties voted to stay dry is that your local bootlegger is also your local money lender. Baconz uncle’s friend is a good resource to have.

      • Baconzgood

        More like hold my coke, while your getting pulled over. And the Trump voters say OK then I’ll do it. I won’t get in trouble right?

    • Bad Tom

      Your mother is wonderful!

  • BadKitty904

    Can the Medicaid Poors get paid to play golf?

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    If Republicans could figure out a way to put a dollar in their own pockets for every person on Medicaid we’d all be on it tomorrow.

    • Proud Liberal

      The thing is, it’s NOT THEIR MONEY! Although they act like it is.

      • Beelzebubba

        And they want it to be.

        • Proud Liberal

          They’re doing everything they can to steal it.

  • Rick Hill

    So, allergies came in with this weather front. Did this talk about people getting work and not being eligible because they make too much? Also insuring a workforce who will accept lower pay just to keep their benefits?

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Are there no prisons? Are there no poorhouses?

    • Oblios_Cap

      They’re filling up. Time to build more privatized ones!

      • Bigly smart jesterpunk

        Jared is on it, since he solved the middle east he is going to work on prison reform next.

    • JohnBull

      There is definitely a link.

  • OneYieldRegular

    New law: You can only receive Medicaid if you play at least three rounds of golf at a Trump-owned golf course each month.

  • TJ Barke

    Republican logic: we can’t trust the poors to not game the system, but we can totally trust massive corporations.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      And parasites like the Mercers, whose entire business model IS gaming the system.

  • theblackdog

    Not that I expect MD to put these requirements into effect but this would screw people I know who have intermittent work so their income means they qualify for Medicaid.

  • Fitzgerald Chesterfield

    To be fair to Trump, the swing shift is tough

  • Anna Rompage

    Congress worked a whole 114 days last year, while the average full time employee worked 250 days… The last time I checked, most companies don’t offer their part time employees benefits such as healthcare & retirement…

  • Belasaurius

    just like when Jeebus made the lepers pick up some garbage before he healed them

    • WotsAllThisThen

      He had a 12 man deportation force.

  • WotsAllThisThen

    That’s some good fiscal conservatism right there, because it’s the sickest patients who cost the most.

  • Bill D. Burger

    And this lazy motherfucker tells people to get off their asses and work. The Orange Slacker Douche has spent more time on the golf course than Dustin Johnson.

    https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/trump_newsweek.jpg?quality=100&w=650

  • JaveyDay

    Let’s talk about ENTITLEMENT REFORM.

    Not the cruel and ugly war-cry of corrupt “conservatives” who wish for nothing more than to dismantle the social safety net that the people of this country have long paid for. No. Let’s talk about the real entitlement reform.

    Let’s reform a system that entitles the shiftless spawn of billionaire industrialists to unfathomable fortunes while paying minuscule taxes. They have everything. They provide nothing. Yet they always feel entitled to more. It is a dark and insatiable lust for money and power that comes from an empty void within. It is a hole they try to fill with more and more money and power and private islands and Gulfsteam jets and fourth vacation homes and new mega yachts.

    Let’s reform a system that entitles the ultra-rich to hide their filthy fortunes in a labyrinth of offshore tax havens protected by an army of accountants and attorneys. Tens of trillions of dollars looted from the commons and dumped into this swelling hoard of greed from which they extract their vampiric essence.

    Let’s reform a system that entitles these billionaires and their lackeys to treat their employees with callous disregard for their health, happiness, and safety. A system that entitles them to destroy the communities they are supposed to serve. A system that entitles them to destroy our beautiful lands and pollute our rivers and oceans and belch the toxic plumes of their greed high into the once blue sky.

    So, let’s talk about ENTITLEMENT REFORM.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Let’s talk about making Uday, Qusay, and Lolita actually work for a living cleaning restrooms at a White Castle.

      • MynameisBlarney

        No. Too upscale.
        Truck stops.
        They need to clean truck stop shitters.

        • TJ Barke

          Backwater truck stops.

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          Truck stops with Mexican restaurants shitters.

        • Bub, the like, cynical zombie

          We can give them performance incentives. After the first year, they get rubber gloves. After five, a brush.

      • Bigly smart jesterpunk

        KFC restrooms first, when I used to work at KFC we regularly had people shit on the ceiling somehow.

    • TJ Barke

      Down with the bourgeoisie!

    • Stulexington

      Can we start by saying no trade subsidies until you repatriate the money you earned from the last year’s trade subsidies?

  • Stulexington

    I can’t help but notice there’s no exception for recently had a baby. So does that mean the second you’re non-pregnant you’d better wheel yourself out of the delivery room and back to work?

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Male superiors seem to think it’s a quick nap and back to the salt mines, which is pretty much their entire grasp of the human reproductive process.

      • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

        Fake news. Donald has grasped plenty of reproductive systems.

      • Stulexington

        Why my great grandmother gave birth to my grandfather while standing up in a field and went straight back to work with him strapped to her chest.

      • Skwerl the Taco Hunter
    • janecita

      Of course! Who deserves time for healing, and to spend bonding time with their newborns? Obviously not the poor!

    • Sister Suffragette

      Now that that baby is no longer a fetus, it’s on its own.

    • Bigly smart jesterpunk

      Yep, they dont think you need any kind of recovery time and think that just means you are lazy.

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    Republicans are the real deal death panelists. Just being human isn’t enough to entitle one to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”. You gotta blow some of your betters to get some rights.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      Blowing our Betters is a great name for our newly-forming brass ensemble of elderly folks. Can we use it?

      • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

        Of course!

      • therblig

        that should raise some tromboners

        • Dudleydidwrong

          Not too many. These are elderly, remember.

      • Where is this brass ensemble, and how old do you have to be?

  • MynameisBlarney

    OT, but horses sayin…neigh…
    Sorry not sorry for the bad pun.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=19&v=YTQwC_jD8Gw

    • Thiazin Red

      Things horses I’ve ridden have been frightened of:

      The door we just rode past
      The dog they’ve seen literally every day of their lives
      Sunlight at a different angle
      Their own shadow
      Someone walking past like 50 yards away
      Some leaves

      • janecita

        I love horses, they are funny as hell.

        • Covfefe

          “I am not a horse.” Declan

        • MynameisBlarney

          Big goofy vegetarian dogs.

        • (((Sedagive)))

          I was just talking about this to a (non-riding) friend.

          Horses have the best senses of humor! They always make me laugh.

          • janecita

            There is this one horse that always makes pretend that he doesn’t know me, until he sees that I’m leaving, then he comes running. He is my favorite.

          • (((Sedagive)))

            Awww. that is awesome.

        • Thiazin Red

          Its like, the dog was there when you were fucking born dipshit, you should know this dog by now.

  • Mavenmaven

    Trump just wants to go Duterte on all the black people, which is who he assumes we’re talking about here.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Killary would have done the same thing.

    • janecita

      “She would have been worse!”

      Susan Sarandon

      • Anna Rompage

        WWIII! Just saying…..

        • MynameisBlarney

          Buttery males!

        • Rick Hill

          Well,her WWIII would have been wores because of reasons

    • TJ Barke

      Oh, Blobfish…

    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      Well, she would open up an abortion factory to force white women to have abortions while paying black women to have 50 babies each. Every 50 baby wins an all expense paid trip to Europe.

      • TJ Barke

        With bonuses for sharia-ing all over dutch politicians.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Proof that Killary is evil: Dick Morris has been in his grave for over twenty years now.

  • Bill D. Burger

    What really galls me today is that the goddamned lazy Fucking Moron has not mentioned the deaths and the missing in California as the mudslides continue. (He hasn’t mentioned the deaths and devastation in the wildfire horrors there either.) ____ But he has mentioned “no collusion” 22 times in 48 hours and “Hillary Clinton” at least 36 times in the same time period.
    Words fucking fail me in trying to express how much I loathe and despise that damned moronic Dotard.

    • Anna Rompage

      Who cares about CA? They voted for KILLARY!

      • Bill D. Burger

        I truly hope the Nov. elections virtually wipe out the GOP reps in CA. The 7th largest economy in the world and the most populace state in the union by far, is not going to be easily ignored by this FUBAR administration. They have an arsenal of social and political weapons in their arsenal and I have every faith in their abilities to use em’!

    • TootsStansbury

      Well he can’t possibly have mentioned Hillz, KAC says they never talk about her.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      I was saying that to a friend this morning. I’m boggled by how much more awful he seems the longer we’re exposed to him. Usually you find some small human connection with someone – you both had Harvest Gold appliances in the 70s, you both hate Pomeranians, your kids’ soccer coach hit on his kids’ teacher’s aide – but there’s just nothing, nothing about him at all that humanizes him in any way.

    • Covfefe

      It’s Faux News’ fault he hasn’t mentioned the deaths and missing in The California mud slides. Lack of imagination. Faux News can’t seem to connect mudslides with Islamic Extremism.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      i was wondering yesterday if there’s any federal disaster funds coming – “they’ve gotten enough money, what with all those fires.” – Congressional Rs.

  • calliecallie

    “The New Cruelty” is a phrase that really captures everything they’re about these days.

    I think we’re getting to the point where some riots are in order, I really fucking do. These people need to understand that at some point they could be inviting the French Revolution.

    • MynameisBlarney

      We shouldn’t really telegraph that should we?
      I mean, do they deserve fair warning?

      • Stulexington

        Of course we should telegraph it, how else can we say “we told you so” to the survivors?

        • MynameisBlarney

          Good point.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        · · · — — — · · ·

      • Mentally Stable Ron

        It’s okay, they’re not paying attention.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Putin is.

    • Stulexington

      Like all useless aristocrats, they think the army will protect them.

    • Lord Jim
      • (((Sedagive)))

        Good read.

        That first comment: It’s always the fundamentalist religious fuckers who are the first to roll over and play dead.

      • calliecallie

        That was an awesome article. I just followed him on Twitter. He is still saying this stuff.

  • Oblios_Cap

    Give Trump a break. He had to work really hard to cheat his family members out of their inheritances so that he could make more money swindling and destroying other people’s businesses.

  • Lascauxcaveman

    Women accounted for 62% of the Medicaid enrollees who were not working in 2017.

    Bitches need to get a job.

    And make me a sammich.

    • Stulexington

      And while we’re on the subject, what happened to the traditional family where the father works and the mother raises the children?

      • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

        Only for married white people.

  • Baconzgood

    “and won’t even be considered until CHIP reauthorization is made conditional on the repeal of child labor laws.”

    I know that’s a snark….but I’ve been wonking since wonkbot (bring back wonkbot). And there was was a running gag during the McCain Palin time, when we used to be able to comment, that used to be “Glenn (the soon to be least bat-shit radio talk show host) Beck…”

    It was snark 10 years ago…now….

  • Thiazin Red

    Idea for dystopian YA novel. Social programs are a thing of the past and things like Go Fund Me have taken over private charity. Because fund and attention are limited, people compete for donations. Our teenage heroine’s family is poor AF and her little sister needs medical care, so she enters a reality show where people compete to beg for charity from viewers.

    If not a novel, republicans can feel free to adapt it as policy.

    • janecita

      “I’m a poor fucker, get my tumor out of my liver.”

      • Rick Hill

        “I really wanted to vote for him but his rapping sucked and the rhymes were forced.”

    • Antonin Dvorak

      There was a mercifully short-lived reality show like that. Essentially, people would ask for money in a video and then a group of other people would decide who to give it to each episode.

      • WotsAllThisThen

        The Human Misery Variety Hour and Revue!

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      “Queen for a Day,” they could call it.

      • CripesAmighty

        And the consolation prize is the ‘economy urn’.

    • msanthropesmr
    • Stulexington

      I’m actually working on a book right now that basically has people throw their hands up in frustration and bypass the corrupt financial system and start trading guilds that run similar to online guilds. It’s the liberal version of dystopia, where your personal worth is based solely on your ability to network and find a guild that’s not going to collapse.

      • janecita

        Is your book a mashup of “Fairy Tail,” and “Sword Art Online?”

        • Stulexington

          Well sorta like Fairy Tail, minus the magic and battles. It is about a young woman finding her way in a new guild though. The title by the way is “No Drama”. It’s full of drama.

    • capnkrunch

      Isn’t that basically Hunger Games? Also, isn’t Hunger Games basically the Republican’s end goal.

  • kaydenpat

    “Screw the poor”.
    Just like White Jesus would do.

  • msanthropesmr
    • Covfefe

      What’s the big. We concentrate both Democrats and Republicans. We call it “Gerrymandering.”

  • TootsStansbury

    I woke up in a dark mood this morning; the last gas and death rattle we hear isn’t the white patriarchy in its last throes, it’s liberal democracy. I have no hope for the future, the new world order is endless subjugation to the kleptocracy, blah blah blah.

    Fuck that! Rise up people! Socialise the whole goddamn works!

  • WotsAllThisThen

    Do Republicans take home any Medicaid money they don’t spend on patients? Maybe the’ll just buy a truck full of corn dogs and call it a day.

  • MynameisBlarney
  • ken_kukec

    I hear the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory is hiring.

    • Bub, the like, cynical zombie

      Ivanka’s shoe factory in Ethiopia is hiring, if you’re willing to relocate.

    • gnomemansanisland

      It’s a hot field.

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Sure, after they fired all the employees.

      I should see myself out for that.

      • (((Sedagive)))

        OMG so wrong. I hate myself for that upfist.

      • MynameisBlarney

        All o’ y’all goin to Hell.

        I’ll leave the light on for ya.

      • President in Exile Firefly

        Just. No.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Wasn’t Soylent Green supposed to fix all this?

  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter
    • MynameisBlarney

      HA!
      I remember that guy.

  • ken_kukec

    “CMS director Seema Verba”

    I know her sister, “Nulius In.”

    • gnomemansanisland

      I won’t take your word for it.

  • “Guy Starting Work At 1:30 PM Today Wants Medicaid Poors To Get Off Their Fat Asses”

    Same Guy vows to “take a strong look” at libel laws,

    “You can’t say things that are false, knowingly false, and be able to smile as money pours into your bank account,” said Trump, a president who has made more than 2,000 false or misleading claims in just 355 days, The Washington Post reported Wednesday morning.

    • Rick Hill

      Evangelicals-“He’s our man because he is so gawdly.”

      • nightmoth

        The new take seems to be “not gawdly, but being USED by gawd.”

        • Rick Hill

          My take is that they can get behind him because their gawd is a gawd of lies.(Or a religion of lies, take your pick)

          • Mentally Stable Ron

            Fair assessment. Heck, they even lie about what’s in their Magic Book.

          • Rick Hill
          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            see, the problem with the Christianist’s argument is this:

            I’m tolerant of you having that belief and expressing that belief – but you can’t force that belief on others, nor can you embed that belief into law.

          • MynameisBlarney
          • Petunia Cat

            OK! Schneider-man Schneider-man! 🎶 😁 🕷🕸

          • LeighBowery’sLuxuryComedy

            “I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’
            Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?
            And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you?
            And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’
            And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[a] you did it to me.’

            Only quoting from the Bible, d00d. Might want to look it up sometime.

        • cmd resistor

          So, we are kind of like Job, being tested by God by having an idiot in charge?

          • nightmoth

            lol! I can’t figure out the “used by gawd” on the part of evangelicals unless it’s “Trump’s gonna start another world war & I’m gonna get raptured & jeebus is coming back” nonsense. That’s the only “use” I can think of that would fit into their world view.

          • cmd resistor

            Unfortunately that seems to be a thing. Also, too, lots of those rich evangelicals benefit moneywise from him.

    • OrG Unstable Genius

      That seems low to me.

      • Mentally Stable Ron

        I believe it only counts ‘Pants on fire’ lies.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      /DJT holds his own beer

  • Rick Hill
    • nightmoth

      Some grumpy neighbors are more dangerous than others.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Grumpy Neighbors II: The WWIIIening.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      What if Trump was one of us?
      Just a schlub like one of us?

      • MynameisBlarney

        Then we’d be able to throat punch him.

      • whyieverdidit

        A Lone Ranger on the sub
        Trying to make his way home…

    • TootsStansbury

      Too slim and youthful looking.

      • Rick Hill

        Well, how many common folk can afford to eat fast food five meals a day, seven days a week?

  • nightmoth

    I posted this earlier, but seeing as how 60% of Medicaid recipients already work, and most of the rest are exempt due to disability, old age, being children,or taking care of children, and those exemptions are already accepted by the states—-I don’t see how this is about work or punishing the poor, or anything else except sending a nice loud dog-whistle to every ignorant fucking racist in the Trump base.

  • Bigly smart jesterpunk

    “We cant give poors money it will make them lazy and dependent on the gubmit”

    “If we dont give the rich all the money they wont create any jerbs and will just sit on their money instead of working.”

    GOP logic

    • Toledo Window Box

      It’s as if they never heard of the concept of the “idle rich”.

      • Doug Langley

        b-b-but Atlas Shrugged taught us the rich work 23 hours a day to make our lives better!

        • Toledo Window Box

          Unless we tax them, at which point they simply stop working.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      nailed it.

  • Mentally Stable Ron

    Now maybe I’m missing something, but my takeaway from this is that, if you’re working and on Medicaid, you’ll be expected to get ANOTHER job on top of the three you already have?

    • Shibusa

      Let’s also eliminate minimum wage so that you can learn the value of the free market while we’re at it.

    • Toledo Window Box

      While we simultaneously shuffle a few trillion over to the already super-rich.

    • Doug Langley

      You got it. Cuz obviously you’re slumming it at your current job.

    • mardam422

      Having three jobs is only pulling yourself up by one bootstrap, apparently.

      • Mentally Stable Ron

        Can’t have that. People everywhere would be walking funny.

    • SDGeoff3

      Remember the woman who told Dubya she was working several jobs just to keep food on her family; and he replied “good for you”?

      • Mentally Stable Ron

        I do indeed. One of many Drumpfian lowlights.

  • Doug Langley

    I’ve been on Medicaid for the past couple years. During which my school cut my pay, no one would give me a well paying job to save my life, I had to work at summer camp, an exhausting and stressful file clerk gig, a physically brutal warehouse job that had me in constant physical pain. All of which paid so little that there’s nothing left and I have to go to food pantries and two months of apply for unemployment which STILL hasn’t gone through and new job won’t pay until next month and begging at places for rent assistance and if it wasn’t for the kind Gofundme donations couldn’t even pay my bills and I can’t even sleep for all the worry. If I said what I felt, Wonkette would ban me once and for all.

    • everstar

      [hugs?]

      • Doug Langley

        Thanks.

    • amrak63

      I get along on a part-time job which I could not live on if I actually had to–that job is why I sometimes can’t spend much time here. For about 20 years, I had a full-time job which I could support myself on, but “progress” ate it.

      Thank the Ascended Madoka, I live with my mom, and my mother and my late father were able to put together a significant nest egg–this was back in the days when non-rich working Americans could still do that–so at least I don’t lack the necessities of civilized life.

    • Ill-Advised

      Barbara Ehrenreich should interview you. Or you write your own book…that right there is a story…the Grand Tour of Misery. Gah. I wish I could help.

      • Doug Langley

        Good old Barbara. I keep remembering what she once said, “Be glad you’re not poor. You couldn’t afford it.”

  • Swampay

    It says that “education can be a determinant of health” but doesn’t specify that one way it can do that is by helping to prevent you from falling for this shit.

  • MynameisBlarney
    • mardam422

      You know, I thought that after a year of outrageous behavior I would be out of outrage. But, somehow, I’m not. Not at all.

    • amrak63

      Maybe Alex Jones got confused because the SS wore black uniforms? ;)

      • Lefty Wright

        And Hitler had all those brown shirt guys too.

  • Daniel Hooper

    I wonder if Republicans just want to dick over the poor because they can or they’re going after the welfare kings and queens they think are all over the place. Speaking from experience they do exist, but they’re incredibly rare and the one’s I’ve seen usually have Trump bumper stickers on their Mercedes while they’re arguing about a $1 co pay on their non life sustaining meds.

  • So, here’s a thing… I have “mental health issues”, including depression and anxiety. And you know one of the things that really “triggers” me (to use that word that I fucking hate)? Fucking paperwork. I don’t do things that I know I should do because there’s paperwork involved.

    I’m fortunate, ’cause I’m not poor, my family has money and I have the luxury of being able to not apply for everything I should apply for, but damn, if I *HAD* to do that sort of thing to survive, I’d be a goddamn mess, and I’m pretty sure I couldn’t actually do it even if I had to.

    • everstar

      Why, hello there, fellow boat passenger.

      • Kateaux

        Hello there as well from yet another fellow passenger.

        I’m getting scared. Fuck Trump. Fuck him and all his wretched family (Barron and the grandbabies excepted).

    • Tennessee Rain Genius

      Exactly – it can be downright paralyzing.

      • It’s the worst, I avoid so many things that I know I should do to make my life objectively better because it involves a phone call. Phone calls are my kryptonite.

        • Tennessee Rain Genius

          I have to give myself “atta girls” for doing the most minute tasks in order to get through my day. And even then, it’s iffy. Paperwork and phone calls are the absolute worst. Again, so much of life paralyzes me.

          • Yeah, I’ve been putting off sending an Email to a financial advisor (wow, that’s the whitest thing anyone has ever said…) for like 2 weeks now.

  • Kgprophet

    Trump can’t start his work day any earlier because he needs at least a full hour to adore himself in the mirror.

    • Eww.

    • cmd resistor

      Well he did have a long day yesterday. Cabinet meeting PLUS dealing with the Norway PM.

      • Tennessee Rain Genius

        Normay

    • phoenix00

      AFTER he does the 4 AM Twitter. And the 6 AM Twitter. In the bathroom. And the 8 AM breakfast in bed over Fox & Friends. While Twittering.

      So mirror time would run from 10:30-1:30?

  • twinkie223
  • sillyclucker

    What happened to the small government that Republicans supposedly love so much ?

    • SDGeoff3

      Another lie from the right.

  • President in Exile Firefly

    Is wearing pants a requirement for this president job? Asking for a friend.

    • everstar
      • President in Exile Firefly

        That’s right–pants are optional!

    • SDGeoff3

      I’d vote for your friend.

    • phoenix00

      Only after 1:30 PM.

  • everstar

    Boring personal story time! I have ADHD, but I did not guess I had it until I had been fired from my fourth or fifth job. And because I didn’t know that I have a genuine disorder, I assumed that all those times I got fired, it was because I was fundamentally broken in some way that couldn’t be fixed. As a result, even though I am working on figuring out ways to manage my ADHD, I am fundamentally terrified of getting a job. In my feelings, I have learned that when I try to work, I will always fail.

    All of the help I am getting to redress these issues is funded by Medicaid through my state government. My therapy, my medications, any tests I might need: all of it. If they shift Medicaid to require employment, I will be caught in a vicious cycle where in order to get any kind of help, I have to force myself to do something that experience has taught me I cannot do. (Plus, if they take away my stimulants, I can guarantee that I won’t get a damn thing done.)

    I try not to hate people, but this administration is teaching me to make exceptions.

    • Ill-Advised

      That’s my life now. Except I’m not on Medicaid because too young and husband makes much for us to qualify for Medicare, so one paycheck covers the mortgage whole the other covers health insurance. I’m considering just calling meds food.

      That’s life on ADHD and Aspergers. Now that it’s lumped into autism, I can’t get any help at all because my symptoms aren’t severe enough for the government, but plenty noticeable in social settings.

      • everstar

        [hugs?]

        Hang in there. Keep fighting. We both deserve better lives.

  • John Shippley

    The person who does the least always seems to be the first in line to yell at the busy people and main contributors.

  • Notreelyhelping

    One of the most insidious elements here is depression. A lot of people equate depression with being bummed or discouraged—which is how most folks experience it. “You’re out of work—no wonder you’re depressed.” But just pull yourself up by your bootstraps, and you’ll find work and be fine!

    But clinical depression is a whole other animal, even if some of the symptoms resemble garden-variety misfortune. You don’t have any boots, much less bootstraps, and you can’t just talk your way back to the living. And more God doesn’t do a goddamned thing.

    So more people with depression will be refused treatment because they’re just too depressed. It’s kind of marking down someone with one leg for a lack of enthusiasm when asked to run a three-legged race.

    • Petunia Cat

      Well put!

    • Ill-Advised

      This.

  • OrdinaryJoe

    Why is it the one draconian throw back to Victorian era social programs that they never talk about reinstating is debtors prison?

  • Spurning Beer

    I have an idea! Let’s gather together the federal appropriations that fund Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA, and add a 5% business tax. Provide universal single-provider health care to all residents. Businesses will cheer, since they will be freed from employer-provided health benefits. Business growth will explode. Even Two Scoops will be able to secure full-day employment at a Macdonald’s establishment as a senior greeter in clown shoes and a red nose. No need for a Medicaid work requirement anymore, since businesses will be pleading with every customer to work for just a few minutes, the labor market is so tight.

    • mardam422

      “…the labor market is so tight.”
      What’s the matter mister? Don’t you like it tight?

    • Lefty Wright

      Except that 5% tax would not begin to cover the $1.5 trillion dollar a year cost of such a program. If you still had deductibles and copays. Even more if you eliminated those. That is about a 40% increase in federal discretionary expenses. I would like to see a universal health insurance coverage as much as the next guy, but I want to hear how it can be accomplished realistically first. You will notice that all the hype on Bernie’s Medicare for All has fallen apart when the issue of paying for it came up.

      • Spurning Beer

        Perhaps some benchmarking to, I don’t know, every other single industrial country in the world about how they do it would be a place to start. Trying to plug in a full-price funding mechanism to feed the American system as it stands is not a reasonable threshold.

      • mfp, reciprocally colluding

        well, we sure as fuck cant fund it by CUTTING TAXES FOR THE WEALTHIEST $1trillon in the next 10 yrs

  • cmd resistor

    This whole “hate those takers” thing reminds me of a repost someone put up on FB yesterday. It just said that Illegal Immigrants get $3700 a month under this Federal program and I only get $1200 from Social Security. I figured it had to be one of those Internet distortions with some messing over of facts so did some looking. Apparently it is based on a one-time thing that refugees in Canada get when they arrive. Of course nothing in the post that acknowledges this is based on Canadian stuff, much less real facts. I was going to post the Snopes breakdown but then thought, what’s the point, and just “hid” it from my feed.

  • Lefty Wright

    It should not have much effect on North Carolina. We never picked up the Medicaid expansion and it is virtually impossible to get Medicaid if you are between 18 and 64 years old unless you are disabled or the parent/caregiver of a child under 18. Even as a parent, income limits are so low that even a part time job at minimum wage will cut you off of Medicaid due to those limits ($434 a month if you are a single parent). Your kid can still get Medicaid if your income is a little higher, but you cannot.

    Income limits for blind, disabled or elderly is under $1,000 a month for a single person, $1,335 for a couple. So if you have any decent work history and become disabled at age 40, you will make too much off of Social Security to get Medicaid, but will not be eligible for Medicare for 29 months, and even then have to pay around $200 a month for full Medicare coverage out of your $1,100 a month check. So you will need an ACA policy until Medicare kicks in. Which really is a better deal at low income than Medicare, but once eligible for Medicare, you cannot get an ACA policy. And don’t even think about a Medicare supplemental policy. For disabled people, those start around $500 a month. I know this for a fact because my stepson faced this situation.

    • mailman27

      That shit is criminally immoral in the richest country in the history of the world. (UAE not incl.) It’s not just NC, the US is a worldwide embarrassment.

    • Petunia Cat

      Holy shit! That is fucking horrendous! I’m on disability for life in Ontario. And have been on since 1990. During that time there was a period when it was frozen, and it’s hellish. Your income goes down every friggin year because of inflation and rent increases. You’re in survival mode forever. Then in Ontario it changed with a different government. In the last couple years I just got to the point, including because of an electricity subsidy, that I’m low income! 🤩 🎈🎈🎺 Up from poor! If I were a more eloquent person I could paint a picture of the mammoth difference it makes in one’s life. I can buy non-thrift store, not on sale pants anytime I want. For real.👖It’s magic. So in other words the government can hold our heads underwater. Or they can treat us just OK. It doesn’t cost that much more. For fuck sake‘s. #Pants

  • doktorzoom

    Also very good, although I didn’t use it in the piece, is this Atlantic piece from last March, which has this depressing note about the work requirements following Bill Clinton’s goddamned “Welfare reform”:

    Research from Harvard Medical School researchers in 2006 suggests that at least some of the TANF requirements’ success at shrinking welfare rolls came from simply pushing people already unable to work out of the program and into an even lower rung of poverty.

    grrrrrrrr

    • Lefty Wright

      Well, obviously. Funding has essentially been frozen for like 20 years, and the block grants to states have lots of loopholes that allow states to shift those block grant funds to other uses, like LePage is doing in Maine. Sort of like what the GOP wants to do with Medicaid. So that in 20 years, Medicaid will just be a shell of what it is now. And it’s not really all that good now in some states, like mine. Poverty levels have not decreased from 20 years ago, but people receiving benefits has dropped significantly. That’s not success.

      • Zyxomma

        I’m one of the old “takers” the Rs are after. I’ve been job hunting for YEARS, but no matter how very highly qualified I am, it’s hard to get an interview when one is a 63 year old woman. I get Medicaid and United Health coverage, and I really like the doctors at my Community Health Center, which is a 12 minute walk from my home. I get SNAP and a tiny cash benefit. The state pays about 25% of my rent, because the allowance for rent has NOT increased since the 1970s, when it would have paid for the whole thing. I had to have people guarantee that they’ll help pay my rent every month. When they fall behind, so do I, and it’s humiliating AF to have to ask them.

        • Petunia Cat

          That’s ghastly. My sympathies, and anger on your behalf. 😰😠

      • doktorzoom

        Would upvote if my upvoter worked.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    The solution is to stop allowing the government to collect statistics.

    • LiberalANDProud

      Silly goose. The only correct solution is to lower taxes.

  • Portia McGonagal

    “Granny, get your arthritic ass out of the nursing home and get to work and take a few of those disabled kids with you! ”

    I will be petty AF and say that I am unapologetic about the fact that this will hit Trump voters HARD and I’m not sorry. I will save my sorrow for everyone else.

    • Bitter Scribe

      And they’ll blame the Democrats.

    • handyhippie65

      it is hard to feel sorry for people who shoot themselves in the foot. laughing at them on the other hand…

    • Magnificent Mopery.

      If only we could find a way to run a motor on stupidity … our energy problems would be solved forever.

    • HooverVilles

      That’s one very clueless person there.

    • handyhippie65

      and to think, we put a man on the moon with the tech of the average digital watch. what the fuck happened to us?

  • Bitter Scribe

    Last night I signed up to volunteer at a homeless shelter. During orientation, the director told us about one of the clients who had to sleep there despite having two jobs, which he reached on a bicycle–until one day it was stolen while he was at work. He had to walk miles through freezing cold back to the shelter to have a warm…foam pad for the night.

    I’d like to see any of these shitballs, starting with the Fatass in Chief, spend one single day doing what that guy does.

    (Sort of happy ending: The shelter staff took up a collection and replaced his bike)

  • LiberalANDProud

    “Isn’t it cheaper to just shoot them?”

    “After the mid terms, sir.”

    • Ellie

      Was that Paul Ryan asking?

  • LiberalANDProud

    So, are these new octogenarian coal miners gonna be known as COLDS?

  • Petunia Cat

    I really don’t want to be THAT Canadian who says your social programs suck. But. To get on what I call “yank disability“ which I guess is SSI you have to get a lawyer. You have to go to court. You have to have all kinds of medical documentation like you were suing somebody for having say injured you. In Ontario your doctor just writes a letter. (There’s actually a form they fill-in but they just do it themselves. They don’t have to put like x-rays and shit on it.) And then it goes to a committee of other doctors and they look at it and say yay or nay. And that’s it. I didn’t have to spend one dime to get approved for disability. My point being there’s all kinds of people in the US who are just as disabled as me but who can’t qualify for SSI because SSI super fucked up. So those are some of the people who this crazy Medi-thing (I can’t remember the names of your different programs, sorry) are going to hit.

    And in disability stuff there’s always the super sacred mindfuck of if you can do something like sit at a desk and do office work, for one hour, they pretend that you can therefore do it for 40 hours a week. Time doesn’t exist when your degree of disability is being assessed. Also the commercial insurance companies have invented all these crazy techniques, involving private investigators, to try to screw over disabled clients. You have the insurance. You get disabled. The insurance company spends zillions of resources to try to “prove“ that you’re not. Or not disabled “enough“ to be unable to work at a regular job. So that mentality is out there infesting the heads of the venomous bastards in red states. Fun times.

    • handyhippie65

      you can say it sucks. it’s not like it’s a secret.

    • you don’t have to get a lawyer, but it helps. i understand about 95% of applicants are rejected the first time round.

      crazy.

  • like really RESISTLY GHERKINS!

    “It says here you are gonna die sooner without a job, so we’re just helping you along! YOU’RE WELCOME!”

  • John McLaughlin

    It will only be fair if those convicted of money laundering, conspiring against democracy, and obstruction of justice work a prison job for decades…

    • handyhippie65

      i think you mean centuries.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    About 10 years ago the state of Louisiana outsourced Medicaid to the Xerox Corporation, and IMMEDIATELY Xerox cancelled a lot of Medicaid benefits, such as Home Health Aides for the disabled. Then they said you had to appeal IN PERSON at the regional Medicaid offices, but it’s hard to drive 90 miles to a regional office if you’re disabled and can’t drive and the person who drives you places is your Home Health Aide, who just got fired. They didn’t tell anyone that you were allowed to request an appeal hearing over the phone if you were home-bound. Louisiana has now changed companies – they are outsourcing to some other for-profit company in Arizona. You can sure bet that some company in Arizona gives a damn about poor people in Louisiana.

    My friend in Louisiana has congenital Ankylosing Spondylitis, which is well documented in his file, and he hasn’t been able to walk for 40 years, yet Xerox insisted he had to undergo a “home inspection” by a qualified “Medicaid Compliance Inspector” every single year just to make sure he was “still disabled.” What were they expecting, a miracle?

    • Petunia Cat

      Good gravy! That, especially the expecting a miracle part is classic bullshit disable people are subjected to.

      Ankylosing Spondylitis, is a nightmare. You know what it isn’t? Poorly understood by medicine. It doesn’t suddenly get better. 🤦🏻‍♀️

      • Angela Ruzzo

        No, it definitely does not get better. His back is shaped like the letter Z and his head rests on one shoulder and he can stand up for about 1 minute. He also has a serious heart condition and a pacemaker. The inspection is bullshit. He said they say stupid shit like “Stand up and walk” or “Bend over and touch your toes” or “Lift this box off the floor.” He just keeps saying “I can’t do that.” After an hour of this bullshit they leave and his Medicaid is renewed. They are coming to his house tomorrow, BTW.

        • HazooToo

          Oh, good. A yearly reminder that you can’t do shit other people take for granted. That must be so beneficial to his mental health.

        • Petunia Cat

          😡😡😡😡😡 Those assholes! Oh they’ll live long enough to get cripple though, we can depend on that.

    • bettycat

      Clearly your friend needs to pray harder and ask Jesus to cure him. The lord has cured many of their afflictions, though admittedly his track record on amputations isn’t so hot.

    • handyhippie65

      not a miracle so much as hoping he died,

      • Angela Ruzzo

        That’s what he thinks – he thinks there is a conspiracy to get rid of people like him. I tell him he is being paranoid, because the quality of medical care in Louisiana is so bad that the doctors and the hospitals don’t need any help from the state to kill off their patients, they are doing just fine without any help. I could tell you stories, but there isn’t room here to do them justice.

  • Petunia Cat

    In my other comment I forgot about the Power of Numbers. The big dark blue hunk of the pie chart includes people with disabilities or chronic illnesses who don’t know it yet. They know something’s wrong but they haven’t been diagnosed yet. So they can’t get on SSI yet. But will do in a few years. I became disabled after having encephalitis in 1982. I wasn’t diagnosed and didn’t get on disability until 1988. That amount of time is not usual. Especially for neurological things and autoimmune diseases. Because doctors’ ability to diagnose them is crap. Medicaid is the antechamber to SSI. Where I live I was on medical welfare for two years before I got on disability. Medicaid IS for disabled people. Also: this is so evil and crappy it’s unbelievable.

  • major_asshole

    “Those lazy poors! Always expecting handouts and never doing a day’s labor!”

    – Some asshole who shows up at the office around 2pm to fart and sniff his finger

    (Same guy, coincidentally, who was handed everything in life for no actual labor and demands more handouts.)

  • james crubb

    Wtf is ‘travel pool call time’? Is that some sort of MacDonald’s meal deal?

    • tehbaddr

      Important things, takes ~ 4.5 hrs!

  • tehbaddr

    Fuck the bastard with a glove of rusty iron shards that’s been dragged through a pig bin!

    • Sy Colepath

      ouch

    • handyhippie65

      don’t forget the votes. never forget the votes.

  • Snarfyguy

    I have a question: if a significant number of people wind up getting kicked off Medicare and simply go without medical attention, won’t that interfere with the health insurance industry’s ability to soak the government (i.e. us taxpers) by extracting obscene profits for medical care that’s no longer being provided?

    Or have I missed something?

    • Medicaid

      • Snarfyguy

        Thanks for the clarification.

  • Let me guess…. Those states getting ready to put the work requirements in place are all “Republican” states?

  • phoenix00

    It’s more that people [with Medicaid] get care, which helps them be healthy and makes them able to work.”

    “When I need ID, I can’t get ID!”
    “When I got ID, I don’t need ID!”

  • OrdinaryJoe

    Is there a shithole country we can send Sarandon to for at least three years? Take JStein with her.

    • Walter Wellstone

      Florida.

    • handyhippie65

      wait, doesn’t she already live here? ohh, you mean a DIFFERENT shithole. carry on then.

  • Walter Wellstone

    One more reason to get everyone out to vote this November. We have got to put the kibosh on this clusterfuck this year. We can’t keep going like this until 2020.

    • HooverVilles

      Exactly.
      Democrats. Don’t. Mess. This. Up.
      VOTE! Vote in numbers large enough to mitigate gerrymandering and voter registration rigging.
      VOTE en masse.

      • The Original Just Me

        That needs to be told to the rank and file Democrats. The Idiots who are the supposed to be Leaders of the Democratic Party are as big of Idiots as the Republicans.

  • handyhippie65

    i lived in a holler in ky. for a year in the 80’s. over 60% of the people i met were on some sort of government draw(their word). this will go over like a lead brick in trump country. some how, they’ll still blame it on obama.

  • The Original Just Me

    Be Happy that this Piece of Used Toilet Paper doesn’t do anything before 1:30 P.M. Just imagine the damage He would do if He started work at 6 or 7 in the morning like the Democratic Presidents have ALL done.

  • Bell the Blind Tiger MCD

    because we did not implement Medicaid expansion in TX, this is our Medicaid breakdown based on the most recently available info (Nov. 2016 monthly report:

    77.1% were under 19 (including foster children)
    9.1% were seniors.
    10.3% were blind or disabled
    3.4% were pregnant

    that leaves 0.1% as not-pregnant adults. if we follow the national trend of 60% having jobs, how many can be assumed to be individuals who aged out of foster care (19-25 year olds who age out of foster care are still eligible for Medicaid if they are in school or working), others seeking education or being treated for a temporary condition? and if we save money for Medicaid by denying the few hundred to a thousand recipients access, how much will our UC costs for hospitals go up over what we saved?

  • Donna Mueller

    welcome to wally mart-the forms in front of you will let you apply for medical assistance during your employment here-now let’s begin……..

  • Debmcd

    Yeah, great way to shrink government and keep it out of our lives Republican meatheads. Every election they run on getting the government out of our lives and the entire time in between elections they spend making government bigger and more intrusive.

  • Sharon Cooper

    Anyone else increasingly feel like we’re living in Pre-Revolutionary France? Just me?

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