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Rod Rosenstein has been a bad, bad boy! Have we mentioned that Donald Trump’s superpower is a force field that melts the brain of every lawyer that comes near him? WE HAVE! And we were right! The guy is like freaking lawyer kryptonite!

Yesterday’s blockbuster New York Times article paints a vivid picture of Emperor Dementia screaming at his staff that the DOJ wasn’t protecting him in the Russia investigation. Comey wouldn’t swear a loyalty oath, drop the Flynn prosecution, or clear Trump in his Congressional testimony. Sessions had recused himself, despite the president’s aggressive lobbying. And those pesky intelligence agencies kept saying RUSSIA and not SOME 400LB DUDE ON A BED. So unfair! But Sessions, ever the loyal house elf, was doing his part to undermine public confidence in James Comey.

Two days after Mr. Comey’s testimony, an aide to Mr. Sessions approached a Capitol Hill staff member asking whether the staffer had any derogatory information about the F.B.I. director. The attorney general wanted one negative article a day in the news media about Mr. Comey, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting.

A Justice Department spokeswoman said the episode did not occur. “This did not happen and would not happen,” said the spokeswoman, Sarah Isgur Flores. “Plain and simple.”

Okay, lady. We must have been imagining eleventy-million Fox and WSJ stories sliming the FBI for being #TeamHillary. But back to Rosenstein, who seems to have been actively participating in the campaign to remove Comey.

Earlier that day, Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, had pulled one of Mr. McGahn’s deputies aside after a meeting at the Justice Department. Mr. Rosenstein told the aide that top White House and Justice Department lawyers needed to discuss Mr. Comey’s future. It is unclear whether this conversation was related to the effort to dig up dirt on Mr. Comey.

The same day that Sessions puts out feelers for dirt on Comey, Rosenstein is huddled up with McGahn’s deputy “to discuss Mr. Comey’s future”? That’s mighty coincidental! And in another amazing coincidence, one of McGahn’s deputies had deliberately misled the president by telling him that he could only fire Comey for cause.

Longstanding analysis of presidential power says that the president, as the head of the executive branch, does not need grounds to fire the F.B.I. director. Mr. [Uttam] Dhillon, a veteran Justice Department lawyer before joining the Trump White House, assigned a junior lawyer to examine this issue. That lawyer determined that the F.B.I. director was no different than any other employee in the executive branch, and that there was nothing prohibiting the president from firing him.

But Mr. Dhillon, who had earlier told Mr. Trump that he needed cause to fire Mr. Comey, never corrected the record, withholding the conclusions of his research.

So over the three months that Trump was howling for Comey’s head, neither McGahn nor Rosenstein told the President that he could just get rid of the FBI director any time he wanted to? REALLY??? We’re going to go out on a limb and guess that they knew about Dhillon’s little fib, and they agreed to just let it lie.

But because he was under the mistaken impression that he had to come up with a reason to axe James Comey, Trump did some huddling of his own with Stephen Miller and Jared Kushner. After a weekend in New Jersey with Dumb and Dumber, the president assembled all his minions for a reading of his Extra Special James Comey You’re Fired Memo.

In interviews with The Times, White House officials have said the letter contained no references to Russia or the F.B.I.’s investigation. According to two people who have read it, however, the letter’s first sentence said the Russia investigation had been “fabricated and politically motivated.”

WHAAAAA??? You mean Mike Pence, who went on television and swore on Baby Jesus’s holy name that Comey’s firing had nothing at all to do with Russia, was LYING? We are … not shocked, since we told you that in September. But we are kind of shocked about Rosenstein, TBH.

On Monday, May 8, Mr. Trump met with Mr. Sessions and Mr. Rosenstein to discuss firing Mr. Comey, and Mr. Rosenstein agreed to write his own memo outlining why Mr. Comey should be fired. Before writing it, he took a copy of the letter that Mr. Trump and Mr. Miller had drafted during the weekend in Bedminster.

So Rod Rosenstein, a career lawyer, took the evidence that Trump was getting rid of James Comey for the express purpose of ending the Russia investigation (ALLEGEDLY), put it in his pocket, and then drafted a memo saying that Comey had to go for being SO MEAN to Hillary Clinton?

IS THAT WRONG??? (Spoiler Alert: IT IS.) But don’t take our word for it — here’s Jack Goldsmith, who worked for the Justice Department and Office of Legal Counsel under George W. Bush, writing for Lawfare.

In short, before the Schmidt story, we knew that Rosenstein was intimately involved in the president’s decision to fire Comey. Rosenstein’s memo was used as a pretext to fire Comey; Rosenstein knew that the president wanted to fire Comey; and he read the Bedminster draft before he wrote his own memorandum.

In this light, it has been very puzzling for a while why Rosenstein does not have a conflict of interest in the Mueller investigation. The Washington Post reported unequivocally that Mueller’s investigation includes “whether President Trump attempted to obstruct justice,” including, as a central issue, in his firing of Comey. Rosenstein was in the middle of that firing. He possesses information about the president’s beliefs and motives in firing Comey, and quite possibly a personal interest in how those beliefs and motives are construed, since he appeared to many to have been used by the president (and was reportedly very angry about it). Rosenstein would thus would very likely be a fact witness in any obstruction inquiry in connection with the Comey firing. It is hard to understand why he did not have a conflict of interest the moment Mueller’s investigation turned to obstruction in the firing of Comey.

So why the hell isn’t Rosenstein recused? Was he trying to help the president obstruct justice?
Did he legitimately think that Comey was a loose cannon who had it in for Hillary Clinton? This shit is weird! AND DANGEROUS. Because, whatever his apparent conflicts, Rosenstein seems to be allowing Mueller to proceed unhampered. But GOP congressmen have started to call for Jeff Sessions’s resignation, which would leave Trump free to appoint a new, non-recused attorney general. And then they can get Mike Pompeo or whatever hack they stick in there to fire Robert Mueller or restrict his investigation so as to effectively kill it.

Like we said, it’s fucking dangerous!

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[NYTimes / Lawfare]

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  • MynameisBlarney

    Yeah….really fuckin bad time to quit drinking…

    Fuck me…

    • Zango’s Stunt Liver

      Eh, someone needs to make it to the end. I’m not sure if I’ll be able to climb out of this gin bathtub.

    • Dutchman
    • armed_bears
    • Angela Ruzzo

      That’s kinda why I’m still smoking. A total stranger very rudely suggested I quit smoking last week, and I told her “I’ll quit smoking when there is a 12-month period in which there is no war anywhere in the world, not a single woman or child is assaulted or murdered by a man, no children starve to death or are sold into sexual slavery, no white police shoot any unarmed black people, the Democrats control Congress, there is a female President, and the polar ice sheets start growing again.” Then I offered to shake hands on the deal, but she refused.

      • Lascauxcaveman

        This rude too, but also true: addicts always make excuses.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          Sometimes we do, and sometimes we don’t, it often depends on the audience. The truth is I like smoking, it’s one of my favorite things, and I have no intention of stopping, but if I say that to most people they simply don’t understand it, and they continue to say rude things. My goal is to end the unsolicited comments, because it’s really none of their business.

          • AmazingProfessionalCrastinator

            When I smoked, people would tell me, “That’ll kill you.” My reply? “So if I quit I won’t die?” Shut them up every time.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            I used a variant – “So because you don’t smoke, you’re not going to die?” That shuts them up too.

            Many years ago, before the Internet and cell phones, I had a friend who was a non-stop talker, the kind of person who has to have the TV on all the time even if they are not watching, and who can’t drive in a car or do any desk work without music playing, the kind who had to take her Walkman when she went walking on a beautiful, peaceful nature trail. She couldn’t stand silence for more than about 10 seconds. She once got annoyed with me because I complained about taking a 14-hour airplane flight without being able to smoke, so I said to her “I dare you to go 14 hours without saying one single word, without the TV on, and with the radio turned off. Could you do it?” She turned rather pale … I am pretty sure she couldn’t do it.

            There is a lot of talk about the dangers of second-hand smoke, which is a real danger and worthy of appropriate legislation, but I was thinking of writing to my state rep and asking for a law against “second-hand cell phone obsession” – because people keep causing car accidents while talking on their cell phones, including pedestrians who don’t look up when they are crossing the street. I would also like to see “Cell-Phone-Free Zones” in restaurants so I don’t have to listen to other people’s angry or obscene phone conversations while I am eating my supper.

            For years I would go out to eat with my friends and they would politely ask if I minded sitting in the “No Smoking” section of the restaurant (back when those existed) and I always politely said “No, I don’t mind at all.” Now if I ask those same friends to put their cell phones away while we eat, they act like I am some kind of freak.

          • Lascauxcaveman

            Ah, from you comment above I got the impression you actually wanted to quit.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            I would definitely quit if all those conditions I listed were to come true, but we both know they won’t, so I was basically saying I’m never going to quit.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      I had to start again. It wasn’t worth the health benefits of not being hungover all the time.

    • WeaselPoo

      Chin up! You can still sniff glue! :)

      • MynameisBlarney

        Yeah…I know.
        Nostrils are still glued shut.

  • goonemeritus

    I will wait until I hear Sarah deny this before I know whether to believe it or not.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      ‘Countdown starting….’

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      I don’t know why. I think the President has been very clear.

      • Opalescent Riddles

        How many times is that question going to be asked? As we’ve stated before our position has not changed on that.

    • AtTheTip

      Can’t wait for Poot Lip’s briefing today.

  • Dutchman

    Now that’s a Joo lawyer

    • FlownΩver

      So, Mrs. Moore, how are things in PR Hell these days?

      • Donna Mueller

        ” you can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality”

    • Gayer Than Thou

      Coming this spring on ABC!

      • WotsAllThisThen

        Followed by the new family sitcom, Where’s My Roy Cohn?

        • Msgr_MΩment

          I loved the spinoff series, The Cohnheads.

      • wide_stance_hubby

        Worst remake of ‘Mad About Joo’ ever.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Starring James Woods as “Jewey McJewerson”!

        • Dutchman

          Filmed in front of a live studio audience on the mid-deck of Boaty McBoatface.

        • OrdinaryJoe

          I’ll watch if Sarah Silverman is his jooey wife.

          • MynameisBlarney

            That would be a 1/2 episode season, because I’m pretty sure she’d kick his ass.

          • OrdinaryJoe

            With words.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Yeah, he’d be in tears after 5 fuckin minutes.

          • Villago Delenda Est

            Oh, that would be great. Sarah would kick his ass from here to next century.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      “No Joo.”
      Karnak raises envelope to forehead, mumbles a magic formula, then tears the end of the envelope, blowing into the opened end to make it easier to extract the mystery question.
      “Jeet Jet?”

      • Dutchman

        So, I take it you’re from Pennsyltuna?

        • Msgr_MΩment

          How’d yinz know?

          • Dutchman

            Cuz, Ms. Dutchman is one of those people. And I’ve been to a firehall wedding within the past 5 years.

          • Msgr_MΩment

            Actually, I’m a former Flying Dutchman, LVC ’81, but grew up in ‘toona town.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

      What about Chuck Assley?

      • MynameisBlarney

        He’s lost in the corn maze?

        • Msgr_MΩment

          He’s never gonna give it up….

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Needs about 12 more mug shots.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      The Avengers kick their asses every single time, with the Hulk tied behind their backs.

  • bbayliss

    Seth Abramson new thread:
    4/ We can say that Trump doesn’t care about the country—and that FIRE AND FURY finally PROVES it—because Trump was not only OK with someone who he said was unfit to serve being president, he PREFERRED that outcome to him having to do the job instead of getting his own TV network.
    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson

  • Oblios_Cap

    A Justice Department spokeswoman said the episode did not occur. “This did not happen and would not happen,” said the spokeswoman, Sarah Isgur Flores. “Plain and simple.”

    If Isgur says it’s not true, I guess it isn’t. It’s not like this administration is packed with pathological liars.

    • cmd resistor

      many named ‘Sarah,” apparently.

  • Scooby

    Anyone surprised by any of this is dumber than Trump.

  • Fitzgerald Chesterfield

    This all sprang from a DOJ pick-up hoops game where Big Jim Comey called Rosenstein “four eyes” and gave him a wedgie.

  • Cousin Itt, hoi polloi

    Emperor Dementia

    Which pony is this?

    • Ghenghis McCann

      Incitatus.

      • Ducksworthy

        That’s Senator Incitatus to you sir.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Incontinentia’s sister. She’s got a last name, you know…

  • Oblios_Cap

    Rod’s covering for Donnie because their middle initials are both “J”. That’s what I’m thinking.

  • dslindc

    “The President has never met Rod Rosenstein or spoken to him in any context whatsoever. Rod Rosenstein is a minor Justice Department employee. I think he gets coffee or something.”

    -Sarah Huckabee “Poot Lips” Sanders, later today.

    • WeaselPoo

      Rosenstein gets the cofeve, or something.

  • msanthropesmr

    OT – but the BBC is reading excerpts from “The Book” – awesome narration.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/worldserviceradio

    • Ghenghis McCann

      Is it Attenborough reading it? I’ll definitely buy the audiobook.

      • Christopher Story

        I could listen to Attenborough read an Excel spreadsheet.

        • Raan

          Would he be going line by line or column by column?

          • Christopher Story

            I imagine it as column by column. Huh…

    • Zango’s Stunt Liver

      Someone mentioned here yesterday having it read by Hilz. I’d take second mortgage on the trebuchet just to be able to take a day trip with it on the radio.

      • WeaselPoo

        On youtube

  • bbayliss

    What will ultimately prove most dangerous is the appointment of Geoffrey Berman to NY”s southern district.

  • Victoria Ricola

    OT but related – I understand the “Eric Holder protected Obama” garbage comment because black, but can someone more versed in history give me the cliff notes on the source of the “Bobby Kennedy protected JFK” garbage comment? All google is giving me is gossip stories of sexxxy affairs.

    • msanthropesmr

      Forget it Jake – it’s Breitbarttown.

      • Victoria Ricola

        Got it. Thank you for confirming.

      • BreakingDeadMen

        “My Daughter (slap) My Lover (slap) My Daugher (slap). Ivanka’s my Daughter and my Lover!”

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Roy Cohn telling Donald fairy stories.

      I did indeed chose that particular metaphor with malice aforethought.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      That is basically what it boils down to. The perception was that the WH was a kind of pick-up joint for the Prez, and his brother covered that up. Also too, that there were some issues the Prez wanted to get out in front of the folks, but was nervous about doing, so Bobby became his attack dog.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Something something tag-teaming Marilyn?

    • Red Bird

      Irish

  • Michael R

    Could everyone in the White House clean out your desks and be out by 2 pm .
    Thanks .
    You too Gorsuch .

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Gorsuch…and every other Donald judiciary appointment…needs to go.

      • Ducksworthy

        A Constitutional Amendment to read: Any and all Judicial and other appointments made by a known traitor to the United States are hereby made Null and Void.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          There’s the ex-post-facto problem, of course, but it will be nice to cover any future stupidity.

          Also, too, a blue tsunami Congress can step in and harsh the appellate system something fierce if they want to.

    • Beelzebubba

      Hard to keep track, but isn’t he already gone?

    • valgalky23

      Is this a typo or what? ”
      “Rosenstein would thus would very likely be a fact witness in any obstruction inquiry in connection with the Comey firing.”

  • Crank Tango

    “You don’t have to be crazy to work here but…actually you’d have to be crazy to work here.”

    • BreakingDeadMen

      They administer the Voight-Kampff test on all applicants, if you fail it, you get the job.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Hell, the entire country is eligible if you use the example of Yertle.

        • BreakingDeadMen

          If you use that example, the people that want to save him are the replicants.

          • Msgr_MΩment

            What’s a tortoise?

          • Villago Delenda Est

            It’s like a senator from Kentucky, only much more attractive.

          • BreakingDeadMen

            Why a duck?

      • Msgr_MΩment

        “Let me tell you about Mother!” — M. Pence

      • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

        The Voight-Kampff test or the Dunning-Kruger?

        • BreakingDeadMen

          It’s a twofer if you let them score the exam themselves.

      • Angry Hour

        The Mein-Kampf test?

  • MynameisBlarney
  • Villago Delenda Est

    Not only is this the gang that can’t shoot straight, they can’t even load the weapons after 10 hours of remedial training.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    “We’re going to go out on a limb and guess that they knew about Dhillon’s little fib, and they agreed to just let it lie.” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ee3a1fe5669467253bbb7593796a31808b1f0cfa602fc5d60ee77784d9468d85.jpg

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Trump will hire an AG who will replace Bob Mueller with Devin Nunes. You heard it here first.

    • Ducksworthy

      Why not go with Natalia Veselnitskaya?

      • Christopher Story

        She is a lawyer

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Wasn’t her maiden name ‘Fatale’?

    • Oblios_Cap

      I hear Jared’s not too busy.

  • Hobbes’ Evil Twin
    • suziq

      Or even out in the open.

  • RMKH

    Wait, Miller and Trump spent a week together in Bed………minster?

    • RickyG

      eating muenster…
      on Jesus Crackers.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    How do ANY OF THESE FUCKERS HAVE JOBS?

    • Christopher Story

      https://youtu.be/w1DqgQkxjIg
      I think this goes a long way to explaining it

      • MynameisBlarney

        Ironic that the creator of that graphic novel/movie is a flaming frightwinger, IIRC.

        • Christopher Story

          Makes sense though, as tortured and moody as those guys are, and their ability to see a conspiracy anywhere, mixed with their fantasies of being anti-heroes against the corrupt systems around them

    • Villago Delenda Est

      A question that is asked every single day about Chris Cillizza.

  • Christopher Story
  • WeaselPoo

    Well…ponder this:
    Trump was told he needed cause to fire Comey which was false.
    Why misdirect Trump?
    Because if firing Comey was onviously arbitrary then Obstruction would be obvious and there would be a national crisis of confidence. That could have been Rosenstein”s concern—big picture expedient calculation, important enough for an unprofessional and possibly illegal denial of truth on counsel.
    Trump now forced to come up with excuse for firing…and does so.
    Rosenstein makes another calculation— execute the bullshit excuse to distract and assuage Trump in order to SAVE the investigation through appointing Mueller. Comey a sacrifice for a greater good, requiring Rosenstein to act illegally as well. Like an undercover cop having to shoot someone to maintain credibility and keep investigation going.
    Discussion on Comey’s future could have been…dude, you ate getting fired for bullshit ‘reasons’ as a sacrifice play. Please co-operate.
    Comey’s been pretty quiet (apart from snarky tweets) and has helped Mueller. Mueller has been protected by Rosenstein. Dubious actions necessary for the greater good.
    Exposure of same from this book now, but short on details and accidental. A risk Rosenstein chose to take for a greater good?

    Plausible? Comments welcome.

    • Victoria Ricola

      I have nothing to add but that this comment sure made me feel better.

      • WeaselPoo

        Good. Just conjecture but Rosenstein seems quite circumspect and not weird.

        • cmd resistor

          He was down here in Fla. yesterday addressing the human trafficking task force or whatever it is called.

          • WeaselPoo

            For or against? (Bad joke, sorry). Yeah he seems solid, but stuck in extraordinary times like the rest of us, but unlike the rest of us, has a position and purview from which he can take some extraordinary measures…for the good.

        • Lascauxcaveman

          He doesn’t seem to be a typical Trump-fellating useful idiot, if that’s what you mean.

          • WeaselPoo

            That is what I mean.

    • armed_bears

      Yes. Please comment, as I do not know his motivations, but agree the net so far seems to have been to enable Mueller Time.

      However, I did not feel very comfortable using the standard “I wish to associate myself with the argument put forth by… WeaselPoo…” Sorta misses out on gravitas.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Trying to save Donald (and the country) from himself.

      Naturally, it’s not working, because Donald wants to have it his way every single time, no matter what that scrap of paper (“The Constitution of the United States”) says.

      • WeaselPoo

        Quite.

    • MynameisBlarney

      If humanity survives turmp, this is gonna make a fuckin awesome spy movie.

      • Oblios_Cap

        Too bad Jerry Lewis died. he could have played Trump.

        • Msgr_MΩment

          “Helllllllooooooo, Laaaaadyyyyyy!”
          /grabs vulva

        • Angry Hour

          A dead actor may not need as much makeup to play Bannon, but finding a corpse in just the right stage of decay would be tricky.

      • eggs ackly-wright

        I nominate Rip Torn to play Bannon.

        • MynameisBlarney

          YES!!!!

        • Lascauxcaveman

          Holy shit, he’s still alive?

          • eggs ackly-wright

            yep, 86 years old

    • Terpsichord

      Also, too, he got to walk away with the ORIGINALLY drafted Bedminster letter which is in itself evidence of an attempt to obstruct justice. My bet is that letter was handed over to investigators immediately.

    • Ducksworthy

      A National Crisis of Confidence? Is that what I’m having?

      • WeaselPoo

        Rofl!

    • Notreelyhelping

      And if they fire him to get to Mueller, Rosenstein goes public? Wonder if John Dean has any thoughts about that?

      • WeaselPoo

        I’ll bet he does.

    • Beelzebubba

      That may explain why Il Douche doesn’t dare touch, or even throw Twattershit at Rosenstein: he knows much too much about the Comey firing. Take Rosenstein down, and Mueller will be taking his testimony within hours.

    • cmd resistor

      Makes more sense than a lot of other theories. I was sort of thinking along those lines about it putting him in position to appoint Mueller, but you articulated it all nicely and better than my brain had gotten to.

    • valgalky23

      At the time I looked at Rosenstein as the guy holding the DOJ together with duct tape and trying not to freak out.

  • Oblios_Cap

    This is probably the only time I’ve wished Hoover was running the FBI. He hated the Rooskies and wouldn’t put up with the GOP doing this shit.

    • girlscientist

      Plus, he probably would have had a pee tape of his own to blackmail 45 with…

  • Red Bird

    Rosenstein is loyal to the wrong country.

    • Ducksworthy

      Not even to that country actually. Just to one party in that country.

      • Red Bird

        That’s what dual citizenship gets you.

    • Werewolf

      Oh, he’s disloyal because he’s a Jew? Flagged for anti-Semitism, asshole. For the record, he’s not a dual citizen.

      • Red Bird

        Duly noted. God bless you.

    • Red Bird

      Also too while questioning the loyalty of people with the wrong skin color. But we must ignore the hypocrisy of it. Because reasons.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    I have long hated Steve Schmidt for what he did to this country when he got $arah on McCain’s ticket. But what he had to say about this gang of criminals and idiots last night on Lawrence was thoughtful and moving. He made the point that not one of these people has the good of one person in this country in their minds at any time, and that they are all a stain on the fabric of our democracy that will take decades to remove.
    If anyone could influence the repukes at all you would think it would be him. He’s been in politics forever and presumably knows the final resting places of a lot of closet skeletons.

    • Oblios_Cap

      An Establishment Republican, banished to the hinterlands by the monsters that he and his created over the years but lost control of.

      • Ducksworthy

        A fine epitaph.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Prezactly. There are so many of them (particularly the vocal neverTrumpers on Twitter) who ignore that they built this mess for short term political gain and they were warned what it would do but they persisted.

        To hell with them all.

      • RMKH

        It’s ALIVE!

    • Msgr_MΩment

      And there’s a lot of bonin’ going on in those closets.

    • Darlene Underdahl

      He thought he could control Sarah, but that proved impossible. She thought she was Queen Esther, the North Star, or some such Dominion nonsense. She honestly saw the ticket as Palin/McCain.

    • KarenJ

      It wasn’t Steve Schmidt who got Sarah Palin on McCain’s ticket. Blame James Dobson and Bill Kristol for that, on the suggestion of an obscure college kid named Adam Brickley. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2008/08/sarah_palin_web_invention.html

      From everything I’ve read since 2008 (including “Game Change”), Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace tried to contain Palin’s worst impulses.

  • shivaskeeper

    Further proof that everything and everyone Trump touches turns to shit.

    • Paperless Tiger

      I agree. The problem with Trump supposedly being exempt from conflicts of interest ignores the way his conflicts cascade down to other levels spreading the corruption like a plague.

      • shivaskeeper

        It is a problem. But the problem becomes self correcting. As more and more of his underlings fall he ends up like Nixon. Paranoid and alone. And a drag on the Party.

        The current Party is doing a smash and grab, trying to get what they can before they are tossed out. He is still good cover for that. If they want to be able to come back to power in the future they will have to get rid of him sooner or later. They will do it later.

        • J. M. Tusks, Esq.

          That’s really the only excuse for the nakedly corrupt tax law. They know they’re done, they just needed one last big score before they get tossed and collect some Mercer blood money.

          • shivaskeeper

            Making a few extra million will help assuage the pain of losing power.The bet is 8 years after they lose power the get to come back as the Dems will not have been able to fix it yet. They won’t be able to do that if they let the brand get too tainted. That is the only consideration right now. They got the money, so all they need to figure out is when, exactly, to dump Trump.

  • elviouslyqueer

    The depressing thing about this is, even if they manage to bring down Twitler on obstruction of justice, he’s still the sitting president, so there’s nothing in the Constitution that says you can bring charges against a sitting president. It still has to go through the impeachment process first, which would then remove him, and ONLY THEN can the charges proceed.

    So tl;dr: IMPEACH THE MOTHERFUCKER ALREADY.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      I keep hoping he’ll quit. He wanted the glory and he’s not getting it; he’s getting a shitstorm of criticism and outright hatred every day instead. He didn’t get his tanks in the inaugural parade, he’s not getting A-list stars sitting on his face, he’s only got one TV channel he can watch to make himself feel better, his kids are in the crosshairs – and he’s grifted plenty already. You and I, although we’d have better sense than to run for an office we didn’t want and couldn’t handle, would’ve quit already. I can’t imagine what keeps him there.

      • elviouslyqueer

        Hubris, plain and simple.

      • Christopher Story

        Toxic Narcissism

      • Edith Prickly

        Quitting would be an admission of failure.

        • amrak63

          Plus, he’s safe from prosecution as long as he’s Preznit, and has a party-before-country (and Putin-blackmailed?) Rethuglican Congress who won’t impeach him.

          My explanation does not exclude any or all of the others’ also being true.

      • TootsStansbury

        He’s nuttier than squirrel poo.

      • shivaskeeper

        What keeps him there is his ego. He is utterly convinced he is the best at everything. The smartest, the best looking, and the most loved. That none of us can see any of that is immaterial. He believes it. He has had it reinforced his entire life by people who were paid to tell him he was the most brilliant person in the room. It is truth for him.

        • pstokk

          It would be very interesting to chart the transition year by year from the rational Trump one sees in old interviews to the decaying monstrosity we have now.

          The other thought zipping around my head is “where are the Democrats”? I don’t read very widely, NY Mag, NYT, Guardian, W.tte obv. Seeing next to nothing there. Checked my CT Senators, Murphy, Blumenthal, generally considered stalwarts. Press releases, could be from the later years of the Bush administration, completely normal(ized?) series of worthy causes and initiatives. No call for impeachment, no calling out Republican enabling, no shouting to the heavens. What’s going on?

          • shivaskeeper

            Rational, yes. But he was never very smart. He either got burned or went bankrupt more often than not.

            As for the Dems, I would like to see some of the junior Dems sounding off. I assume the more senior ones are biding their time.

            They can scream “impeach” all day, but the truth is they have no power to make it happen. They’re the minority party, they don’t have control of any of the committees, and there is nothing they can actually do right now. Why give the GOPers more ammunition to be used to bring out their base at the midterms before they have too?

            I expect to see and hear more denunciations and rhetoric that can be acted on as the midterms start to heat up. If not, they can get shitcanned too.

            Also there is a low intensity civil war in the Den Party right now between the Our Revolution/Bernie is God camp and pretty much everyone else. Right now, AFAIK, they are the sand in the gears because anything that is said it done is not going to be good enough and they are vocal about their superiority, so why give them fodder as well?

      • cmd resistor

        I often think that’s how he will go — kind of like Sarah Palin did.

    • shivaskeeper

      Not until the rest of them go down first. Mueller will peel away all his support and lackeys. He will be referred to as “Unindicted co-conspirator” in all the documentation against them.

      The same thing happened with Nixon. Even then, the Congress protected Nixon until he was no much of a drag on the party’s chances of reelection.

      • Ducksworthy

        Spiro First!

        • Opalescent Riddles

          And down the line till they find one who isn’t complicit.

          • Ducksworthy

            OK. But I’m afraid its traitors all the way down.

          • Opalescent Riddles

            There’s even a McTurtle in there, also too.

        • shivaskeeper

          If I’m not mistaken, a sitting VP can be charged and tried. A sitting President, not so much.

        • A Monkfish in Anemone

          AOT,K!

    • Ducksworthy

      Actually, I don’t think the Founding Fathers intended to create an Executive Branch that was above the law. But we’ll see. The Second Amendment still says what is says despite the SCOTUS.

    • Tired Brit

      As I understand it, it’s not as straightforward as saying that a sitting US president cannot be subject to criminal charges. Constitutional law is based heavily around precedent and, well, there really hasn’t been anything much like this so far. This episode of the Trump Con Law podcast covers presidential immunity, and is very much worth listening to:

      https://trumpconlaw.com/5-presidential-immunity

  • Angela Ruzzo

    OT: I was just reading an article about the Deep Freeze along the East Coast, and I had to laugh at this line: “In the South, the winter weather … caused iguanas to become sluggish and topple from trees in South Florida.” I am trying to imagine it raining sluggish iguanas, and I can’t quite manage it, but it did take my mind off politics for a minute.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/east-coast-braces-deep-freeze-following-massive-storm-054655021.html

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      That’s awesome imagery. I didn’t know iguanas lived in the continental US, either.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I am hoping for video.

      • TJ Barke

        Pretty sure they’re invasive.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        According to Wikipedia: “The green iguana (Iguana iguana), also known as the American iguana, is a large, arboreal, mostly herbivorous species of lizard of the genus Iguana. It is native to Central, South America, and the Caribbean. The green iguana ranges over a large geographic area, from southern Brazil and Paraguay as far north as Mexico and the Caribbean Islands. They have been introduced from South America to Puerto Rico and are very common throughout the island, where they are considered an invasive species; in the United States feral populations also exist in South Florida, Hawaii, the U.S. Virgin Islands and the Rio Grande Valley of Texas.”

      • MynameisBlarney

        Yes, they do.
        And we hate them.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          I had a friend in St. Louis who kept one in his house as a pet. It was a very large one. They spent $20,000 to add on a sun room to keep the iguana happy, and kept a mop and bucket handy in every room to mop up the pee it left behind everywhere,and they fed it live mice that were delivered to their house several times a week. I asked if it ever showed them any affection, and they said “No, but sometimes it will sit next to us.” I frankly could not see the attraction.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Mice?
            Sure that was an iguana?
            They’re mainly herbivores if I’m not mistaken.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            According to my friends, iguanas are omnivorous and quite fond of the occasional mouse. I don’t know what species that iguana was, but some of them are more omnivorous than others.

          • MynameisBlarney

            The ones we see down here eat all the decorative plants and they LOVE orchids.
            They get up to 6′ and 200 pounds and when they dump on your car….it is fucking MASSIVE.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            So, orchids are iguana magnets? That’s interesting, thanks for that info … There are no wild iguanas in Missouri, but the deer will eat every single geranium if I plant any outside. Geraniums are deer magnets. I had 6 enormous pots of them on my porch one year, and as I left for work one morning they were JUST about to burst into full bloom, so I thought “They will all be in bloom by the time I get home from work, how nice, I will take a picture and send it to all my friends.” Except that when I got home from work, the deer had bitten off all the flowers from every single plant. Sigh.

          • Zango’s Stunt Liver

            I had one for about 18 years who ate green pot leafs from my plants and would climb into my lap to get some second hand smoke. Every spring he’d go into anger mode as his hormones ramped up, humped warm socks and generally was a smelly mess. He was a good enough pet for a reptile. I’d never get another one, though.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            I often think that humans are much too anthropomorphic … just because another species doesn’t obviously enjoy cuddling with us, or follow us around like a puppy, or jump for joy when we get home from work, doesn’t mean they don’t like us and have some kind of emotional bond, however mild or transitory it might be. My other friend who works with Raptors (hawks, falcons, owls, eagles, etc.) says they have ZERO emotional attachment to humans … but how would we know this? They might grow to be somewhat fond of us according to their standards, but we might not be able to tell.

    • Darlene Underdahl

      It’s not raining frogs but iguanas? End times?

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I think the End Times occur fairly frequently in Florida, so one should probably not extrapolate from anything that happens in that state.

  • Baconzgood

    Jeeze. I could assemble a more competent White House staff by randomly choosing wonkette commenters. And,wonkette do sent allow comments.

  • Elvis Causticfellow
    • Villago Delenda Est

      A song for our times.

  • Edith Prickly

    To echo something Evan said in the Roy Cohn post, what the hell possessed all these people to piss away their professional credibility for a disaster like Trump?

    • OutOfOrbit

      blinding greed

    • MynameisBlarney

      Short term financial gain.
      Gets ’em every fuckin time.

      • Beelzebubba

        They think they’ll get paid?

        • TootsStansbury

          I hope these fuckers get paid. Everything they deserve.

        • MynameisBlarney

          From russia? Sure.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      There’s just Something About Donnie, I guess.

    • ((( Augustus )))

      I think it’s the same thing Colbert mentioned the other night which is that Trump’s only real skill is making you believe YOU’RE the crazy one

      all this batshit insane stuff you think Trump is doing can’t POSSIBLY actually be happening, otherwise he would have no credibility at all, no one would trust him, and he’d never have made it this far!

      the Big Lie

      gaslighting

      etc.

      These people all thought, “surely, if Trump is as bad as I suspect he might be, other people would be sounding alarms?” or something similar

    • counterlife

      Probably at least some lack of self-awareness, a bit of arrogance about their personal understanding of things being superior to anyone else, and some good old fashioned stupid.

    • shivaskeeper

      He is a very, very good conman. He has made millions if not billions selling his brand of bullshit to people. He has been doing it for decades. He manages to sell his bullshit to people who know he’s a conman.

      It’s his only real skill.

      • cmd resistor

        I don’t trust anyone, for the most part. Even legit salespeople hate me because I ask too many questions. But this guy is SO beyond the pale (whatever that means), I can’t believe anyone has fallen for his shit. Yet, you are correct, they have.

        • shivaskeeper

          I am skeptical of grand claims. As a rule I trust unless I am shown a reason not to. Salespeople are a different category. Their ob is to sell me something and my job is to be a cheap bastard.

          He is beyond the pale, but he has been effective at it. He ran Trump University as a real estate investment school. All you had to do as student was pay more money for the more advanced classes to learn all his secrets. People paid him to go to a school to learn how to invest in real estate. He very publicly bankrupted casinos he bought. You would think that would be a red flag.

          • Lordpnut

            “Cheap bastard” is not the preferred nomenclature. “Thrifty orphan” please.

          • shivaskeeper

            No. I’m a cheap bastard.

      • Lordpnut

        He has an uncanny talent for telling people what they want to hear.

        • shivaskeeper

          Any politician or religious huckster can do that. They can even get you to send money to them. The difference is the politicians and priests are talking to true believers already, and Trump isn’t.

          It’s more then telling them what they want to here, although that’s part of it. It’s getting them to buy what he’s selling when they are not believers in the first place. He can get strangers to give him money, even ones who know his history. That is an exceptional con man.

          • Lordpnut

            True that.

    • Anne Of Green Bagels

      Tschutz-pah, as one-L would call it.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Pee hooker sloppy seconds?

      • Edith Prickly

        IPWYDT…

    • WIDTAP

      Each and every one fo them thought they could control or be untouched by the shitshow that is Trump. The should have asked anyone in NY Real Estate – that stink don’t come off.

      • MC Planck

        Bingo! What they did not understand is that there is no bottom to the shitshow. They were only ever amateur sociopaths to his real deal.

    • Beelzebubba

      Have you noticed that most of them are idiots?

      • Edith Prickly

        Rosenstein is the most puzzling. I guess he saw what happened to Sally Yates and tried to work around Trump’s insanity, but FFS.

    • Daddy issues. Masochistic surrender to a cruel and ignorant Daddy is at the bottom of the conservative mindset.

    • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

      Partisanship. They have no other operating mode.

    • MC Planck

      Power. Trump is the One Ring.

      Trump is an idiot. That is obvious to everyone who meets him. He is also incredibly powerful, because of his money and position.

      Everyone thinks they can use Trump to accomplish something, borrow his power for some good, because he’s such an idiot. So they put up with a minor humiliation, thinking it worth the chance. A little pain, a little besmirchment, a little stain, in exchange for some worthy goal.

      But of course with Trump there is no floor. Every day there is a new humiliation, a new low. Blinded by the shining light of power, they sink a little deeper each day, until the humiliation is so weighty they can only salvage their reputation by finally achieving the good goal they set out for.

      But of course, Trump’s power is an illusion. He is too stupid to use it for any purpose other than self-enrichment, even when controlled. So men and women of dignity sink into his orbit, never to accomplish anything, and never to return.

    • Shibusa

      Srsly. The only one who has retained any personal and professional dignity is Mattis. And he probably wants a war so the DoD can use its toys of mass destruction, so that marginally positive impression of him may not last.

  • Machnethylsteinerbincolabird

    Very bad if Rosenstein is impertiled because he seems to be protecting the Mueller investigation from interference. If he gets shaken out, no telling what might happen.

    • ((( Augustus )))

      No telling what might happen!

      truer words were never spoken :)

      • Beelzebubba

        We know exactly what would happen.

        • ((( Augustus )))

          nah, no one ever knows exactly what’s going to happen

          that’s why reality is so fascinating

    • Villago Delenda Est

      We are in uncharted waters here. The Watergate analogy breaks down at a certain point, when the majority party in Congress is a co-conspirator with a traitor President.

      • ((( Augustus )))

        that, and the ones that aren’t active co-conspirators are too chickenshit to speak up, and would prefer to keep silently grifting on their own

        • yyyaz

          Collaborators.

          • Lordpnut

            Yes, with all that implies.

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        This

  • Crystalclear12

    If Sessions is quit/fired and Trump uses this opportunity to kill the Mueller investigation it will be before the 2018 elections.
    Good luck with that, GOP.

    • Ducksworthy

      Election? I thought Obama canceled the elections.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        2016, yes. It was replaced by Russian [sur]reality programming.

  • Anne Of Green Bagels

    am I the only one who’s dizzy after reading this?

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      as I keep saying, I’ll wait for the inevitable miniseries, I can’t keep all these people, dates, and places in my head.

      • Paperless Tiger

        Maybe that’s why the real professionals number their agents.

        • eggs ackly-wright

          mmmmmmmmmmmmmm…99

          • Ducksworthy

            Sunbeam Tiger also.

          • Zango’s Stunt Liver

            Miniskirt, too.

          • yyyaz

            Actually it was an Alpine IIRC, but I will upfist any reference to the Tiger.

          • Lord Jim
          • Rooster Cogburn105

            I’ll be in my bunk

        • Anne Of Green Bagels

          Mister Pink.

      • Anne Of Green Bagels

        this shit has a bigger cast than lord of the rings.

      • J. M. Tusks, Esq.

        George Clooney as Robert Meuller
        John Hodgman as Rod Rosenstein
        Melissa McCarthy as Donald Trump

        • Lordpnut

          Denzel Washington as Jeffrey Beauregard Sessions.
          You KNOW he could pull it off – that muthafucka’s BAD.

          • margoharris

            He’s a Republican who probably voted for Trump!

    • Msgr_MΩment

      The iguanas are so dizzy they’re dropping from the trees!

    • Fartknocker

      Whatever you do, don’t ask Louie Gohmert to provide the flow chart / event timeline.

    • OutOfOrbit

      after reading what did i miss something?

    • Rooster Cogburn105

      Maybe mescaline and an Absinthe chaser could make this understandable.

  • New and Improved Say Wha

    PROGRAMS!!!! GET YER PROGRAMS HERE!! CAN’T TELL THE APPOINTEES FROM THE FELONS WITHOUT A PROGRAM!!

    • Raan

      Isn’t that Venn diagram just two perfectly overlapping circles?

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      You misspelled “Pogrom”

    • Blanche de Shambles

      WHERE’S THE BEER GUY?

  • Indiepalin

    Today’s White House briefing will be handled by Tucker Carlson because Sarah Sanders’ head is still stuck in the drive up window at Wendy’s.

    • Jimh

      After yesterday I can’t say I blame her. It’s getting harder and harder to sling that shit.

      • Petunia Cat

        Apparently in the book it says that Kellyanne Conway when she’s off camera doesn’t even pretend to believe the shit she’s saying. Finger gun to head after she was off camera on morning Joe, IIRC. So yeah we are in the hands of shortsighted pathological liars. It’s like all the dumbest most ass-kissy people in Hollywood and Vegas are now the government’s administrative glue.

  • bbayliss

    “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
    H. L. Mencken

    • elviouslyqueer

      As a Southerner, I am honor bound to absolutely detest Mencken (even tho he was spot on about us in “Sahara of the Bozart”). Even so, this is fucking genius, and so, so very true.

      • bbayliss

        I guess that’s the difference between the north and the south; as a northerner
        I am honor bound to detest no one.
        When I lived in Dallas it always amused me to be referred to as “that Yankee”
        I hadn’t given the civil war a thought since 8th grade history class, they were still fighting it.

        • DrBigHead

          Don’t you mean “The War of Northern Aggression”?

          • elviouslyqueer

            “That Northern Unpleasantness.”

          • mardam422

            The War of Southern Embarrassment

          • Erala Contratista

            The Woahhhh…..

        • elviouslyqueer

          When we moved to Austin from New Orleans a million years ago, apparently my “Yat” accent was so strong that my fellow students routinely called me a Yankee. Even tho I was from arguably the MOST Southern city.

          • bbayliss

            One might argue that New Orleans is America’s most “European” city.

          • Erala Contratista

            Worked for a Yat years ago, accent puzzled me as it wasn’t an East Coast accent.
            Learned to love the accent and still can’t speak it.
            Cajun is another fave.

          • DrBigHead

            I went to graduate school with a Cajun. Could understand much of what he said when he spoke Cajun French,, but parts were lost on me. He recommended that if I ever found myself in Cajun country and someone engaged me in conversation, if I heard the word “boudain”, the answer was “no”.

          • Slamtundra

            However what is so bad about boudan? That shit tastes good…

          • DrBigHead

            Not a thing. I like it a lot. He said it because of all the blood, it was just a giant scab.

          • TakingAmes

            New Orleans has the weirdest accent. I went to Tulane for undergrad and grew up in Georgia, Tennessee, and Kentucky, and Yat is not a Southern accent. It is its own genre. I love it but cannot replicate it effectively.

        • Rooster Cogburn105

          And losing

    • Lefty Wright

      I thought the actual phrase was ” a fucking moron”, but I may have my sources mixed up.

  • Gee, Your Hair Smells Horrific

    Firing Mueller would be both stupid and insane, which is exactly why you know he will do it. It’s just a matter of time.

  • WIDTAP

    “they knew about Dhillon’s little fib, and they agreed to just let it lie.”

    I’m not gonna tell him. You tell him.

    I’m not gonna tell him.

    Let’s get Mikey. He’ll say anything!

  • Ducksworthy

    Not really OT. Al Franken forced Sessions recusal.

    • House0fTheBlueLights
    • WIDTAP

      Well, forced in the sense of asked a normal question and waited for Sessions to lie himself into a corner.

    • Gorillionaire

      Franken was also the Senate’s leading champion for net neutrality. Just sayin.’

      • J. M. Tusks, Esq.

        Good thing we got rid of him because someone said he did something that could appear to be construed as something arguably inappropriate.

        • Lefty Wright

          Yea, he did something inappropriate. But that trip was apparently a series of ribald skits by everyone there. The other allegations were just that, allegations, and involved pinching or putting his hand on someone’s butt. While inappropriate, it does not rise to the level of dismissal, particularly without any investigation on the truth or any attempt to mete out the proper level of punishment. Let’s just hope the Democrats do not lose that seat in 2018, especially to Michele Bachmann.

        • we need to move on. i didn’t agree with franken leaving but it is what it is. we need to use what little capital we got from it: claim the fucking moral highground and nail the pedaphile supporters to the wall.

          well, that’s what i do.

          • MC Planck

            Kristin Gillibrand will definitely use that capital. The rest of us… not so much.

            Franken, alone of every single figure accused, asked for an investigation. Franken was the only one convicted solely on the testimony of his accusers, without any independent investigation, and even as his original accuser started with lies. That little detail – the cry of an innocent man swept up in a mob – made no difference.

            I pretty much gave up on American politics after that.

    • LeighBowery’sLuxuryComedy

      Damn. Why couldn’t he have just left Trump-scented sock lying in Session’s path?! “Master has given Jeffy CLOTHES!”

  • Daniel Hooper

    What I worry about now is if someone could spin this so that Mueller has to be removed from the investigation because he was appointed by Rosenstein, who seems to have a growing conflict of interest. Given all the brain bending right wingers are using to justify Trump’s actions of late, I wouldn’t be shocked to hear them say that Rosenstein’s appointment of Mueller was illegal, even though Rosenstein’s actions were directly to conceal Trump’s actions which were of course perfectly legit(in their minds, at least).

    • WeaselPoo

      Christ! That’s some reasonable thinking right there, and I don’t like it. Hopefully ingrained incompetence will come to the rescue.

    • again, remember: eric fucking schneiderman.

  • anon_the_great

    I’m so sick of this fucking shit

    Impeach the motherfucker already

    And then on the 1st Tuesday of November drive the drooling shitgibbons in Brookes Brothers suits into the howling wilderness for the rest of Eternity.

    May God have mercy on their souls.

    • Rooster Cogburn105

      Great Cthulu hears their screams for mercy, but doesn’t care. He’s sleeping.

  • Flashman

    Practicing law is a helluva lot harder when your clients are pathologic lying assholes without a shred of honesty and integrity. Example:

    Unnamed Lawyer: You will be asked if you have ever seen this documnet.
    Client: What do you want me to say?
    UL: You’re under oath. You have to tell the truth [aside, sotto voce] you fucking imbecile.

    • J. M. Tusks, Esq.

      I was taking a dep once, and the witness gave me this gem:

      “I don’t remember.”

      “You don’t remember?”

      “Well, I remember, but I don’t know how to say it so it sounds good.”

      Also too, when you practically beat your own client to death with “Tell the truth” and “This is what you told me happened, just tell them what happened” and they STILL try to out-lawyer the other lawyer.

  • TundraGrifter

    I haven’t seen that many wrinkled brows since I watched a Star Trek rerun.

    • TNG, obviously. In TOS, they didn’t have the makeup budget for forehead prosthetics for the Klingons.

      This, of course, led to all sorts of stupid fan theories about what the hell is it with Klingons, which even made their way into the show. All they really needed to say was something like “Jeez, dudes. There are at least three distinct races of humans (Caucasian, Negroid, and Oriental). Why can’t aliens have distinct races, too?”

      • Petunia Cat

        I just watched two Star Trek TOS episodes today. They keep talking about “computer banks“ whenever they’re talking about information in the computers. 😁 I also love watching TNG, because they have iPads!! 😯(Because of a disability tablet computers are the only way I can use a computer. Changed my life.)

      • TundraGrifter

        Ever notice how they almost never met nice people in space? Why are aliens always out to do them in? And are there no gas stations in space? Seems like there was a fuel crisis in every episode. Don’t get me started the life expectancy of a guest star. No reason to purchase a round-trip ticket on the USS Enterprise.

        • pbasch

          I don’t know… wasn’t the green chick a nice person?

          • TundraGrifter

            The exception proves the rule. Also.

  • Tetman Callis

    America — Where the Jesus nut fell out of the moral gyroscope and all the pieces went spinning this way and that on the way down.

    • Rickyphoo

      Kudos on the Jesus nut reference.

  • Bezoar

    After thinking about this, it seems to me that the only time The Donald could have fired Comey without significant adverse effects was the day he took office, if it was mixed in with a bunch of other more or less routine departures at the change of administrations. Any time after that, a reason for firing Comey would be needed, but they wouldn’t be able to supply one that wouldn’t attract even more attention to the Trumpist dirt.

    • WeaselPoo

      Agreed

  • Run2Live

    How long would it take the Senate to confirm a new AG?
    Who takes over the Special Council if Mueller is fired?
    Even if he’s fired, the SC’s findings don’t just disappear. Plus, there may be numerous unpardonable state charges for money laundering as Mueller is coordinating with at the very least, NY’s AG.

    • Phried Ω

      The more layers of infected DOJ officials to fire the better for the SC investigation. Considering the rate that the admin. is filling vacancies across the entire government they will get down to career people in about two DOJ firings and the investigation continues.

    • An Outhouse for the résistance

      Schneiderman will hire all the you’re fireds.

      • Petunia Cat

        🎶 Schneider-man! Schneider-man! Does whatever a Schneider-man can… 🕷🕸
        😊

  • ken_kukec

    Donald Trump is a greased pole that many people thought they could latch onto and climb to fame or fortune or success. But at that pole’s bottom is a pit littered with the bones of “marks” who have trusted him — former business partners and employees, people who pre-bought at his proposed condo projects, graduates of Trump “University,” and all of Atlantic City, New Jersey, among others.

    Rod Rosenstein, and Don McGahn, and any other lawyers who get involved with Trump are like to end up as more skeletons in that ossuary.

    • svejk

      WWI Centennial Bonus Points for use of “ossuary.”

  • KarenJ

    Serious comment directed to author here, Five Dollar Feminist: You should read the Twitter response by Carrie Johnson of NPR to Lawfare’s Jack Goldsmith.

    https://twitter.com/johnson_carrie/status/949308726468579331

  • Lefty Wright

    If anything happens due to the executive branch derailing Mueller’s investigation, it may be time to give the members of congress a little quiz on the oath of office they took. A simple multiple choice test with one question should do it.

    “Your oath of office requires you to support and defend what or whom against all enemies, foreign and domestic; and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same…”

    a) The Constitution of the United States, or
    b) Donald J. Trump

    If they answer honestly, based on their actions the last 12 months and their plans for the next 12 months, we may see a few less Republicans in congress.

    edit: And no, filling in both bubbles is not acceptable, nor is placing a slash mark on one bubble to indicate something no one can figure out.

    • Bebecca

      As I recall, trump eliminated ethics training for people in his administration.

      • Khavrinen

        As I recall, trump eliminated ethics training for people in his administration.

        • Bebecca

          OK that made me LOL

    • WeaselPoo

      Assumes honesty by majority holding Republicans not in evidence

    • Nice edit…..!

    • Bezoar

      And, no writing in “Lizard people”.

      • Rooster Cogburn105

        How about “real ‘Murrikans who watch Fox and stuff?”

  • azeyote

    everyone thinks that “politicians are crooks” – but now they have to flout their rich white male entitlement, and strut it about in their cavalier attitude for everyone else – it’s fucking embarrassing –

  • Lord Jim

    Wouldn’t it have been simpler to tell Trump that he could fire Comey at will and avoid all the obstruction-of-justicey rationalizations?

    • TakingAmes

      Deep State!

  • Sean Jungian

    At first I thought that “400-lb dude on a bed” was a reference to Pres. Diaper-Shits and couldn’t understand why you put a “not” in there.

    Obviously Russia and a 400-lb (orange, short-fingered, senile septuagenarian) were colluding!

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    Did Mr Mueller flip Mr Rosenstien?

  • fawkedifiknow

    I’m getting the cobwebs off my pitchfork and matches for my torch.

    • Lordpnut

      Meet you at the palace gates.

  • Khavrinen

    “Why are Trump’s Lawyers all so CRAZY?”

    What sane person would work with him?

    • amrak63

      Trump is known for not paying his bills to anyone who can’t threaten him in some way.

    • Aaron_000

      Trump has such horrendous lawyers because the top law firms refused to represent him because they know that being associated with Trump in any fashion is bad for their reputation. Also, they know they won’t get paid.

      Page 234 of Fire And Fury:

      • margoharris

        Remember his former lawyers wouldn’t meet with him one on one. They insisted another lawyer be present because Trump would lie about what was said it what he said in the meetings. SAD.

      • Seth Gordon

        Also, they knew he wouldn’t take their advice, especially if their advice is along the lines of “shut the fuck up so you don’t dig this hole even deeper”.

  • Paperless Tiger

    We’ve seen administrations step on their own dicks before, but these guys are steady strolling.

    • MOG253

      Now that’s a visual.

    • Bangkok Taxi

      I was strolling on my dick one day,
      In the merry merry month of May

      I was caught by my lies,
      By Robert Mueller eyes

      • Slamtundra

        It only lets me give you one upfist.

        • Husband Of Mrs God

          What I do is click the one up-vote, then reply and put a row of ^^^^^ before typing.

  • Snowbound Ron

    These are not smart people. These are stupid people, who have been caught doing stupid things. And they’re desperate for a way out. They’re going to panic. I just don’t at the moment see what that panic will lead to, but it’ll be ugly.

  • dshwa

    Possibility: Rosenstein isn’t recused because he’s the only one who can fire Mueller, and Mueller having known about this for months, told Rod stay where you are or else you’re indicted too…

    • CindyinEncinitas

      I believe that is the best-case scenario but who can trust that odd little fucker?

      • Lordpnut

        “Odd little fucker.” I like that.

    • dieselox

      He is quietly allowing the investigation to proceed, and cooperating at the same time. Not sure how that’s a problem, until he does something in his interest to limit the investigation. He can make suggestions of limits not in his interest.

      I felt at the time, he appointed Mueller to get to the bottom of it as an FU to Trump for stepping on his work.

      Like Franken asking for an ethics investigation into his own conduct, but also being able to start one anyway, say, if he was head of the ethics panel.

      I think Rosenstein is doing a silent recusal. In fact, but not in name, to give Mueller cover. He knows Trump, knows how dumb he is, and can probably play eleventy dimensional chess or whatever. That’s my hope. But shit like that is always my hope. I thought Trump was going to flip to D if he got elected, and yell “PUNKED ALL YOU FUCKERS!!!!!’”

  • Kryptonian Canis

    Wait, is this how the Saturday Night Massacre starts? Oh yeah, we had to fire Rosenstein and replace him with a Trump flunky because Rosenstein done goofed. It’s all right there in the New York Times!

  • MOG253

    Jesus wept.

  • BadKitty904

    A pity about Rosenstein. I’d kinda hoped he might be a patriot.

  • Manhattan123

    From the picture painted in the Wolff book, it’s pretty clear Trump is the 400LB DUDE ON A BED.

    • Petunia Cat

      With a 🍔

  • Crabpaws

    Lawfare has several theories about what’s going on with Rosenstein and why he hasn’t recused himself from the Mueller investigation.

  • Tony Prost

    This is so much bigger than Watergate.

  • Begin Anew Day

    “…blockbuster New York Times article…”

    Now you are just teasing me!

    The “blockbuster” New York Times were cheerleaders for the first Iraq war by Bush the elder.

    The “blockbuster” New York Times has never failed to align itself with the interests of Endless War.

    The “blockbuster” New York Times did us no favors with their endless parade of hit pieces on Hillary Clinton ever since she first appeared. If Hillary farted the “blockbuster” New York Times wanted everyone to know about it for six or seven days after the air had cleared.

    So excuse me if I do not consider “blockbuster” New York Times as worth two shits. They helped donnie win. They did it because they saw him as a source of endless scandal.

    Fuck those guys. Fuck the “blockbuster” New York Times now and forever!

    • Occam’s 8 ball

      sometimes the NYT begs me to subscribe. I tell them that it wasn’t Judith Miller’s decision to put the Curveball interview front page above the fold, it was an editorial decision. But I wish i would have said ‘fuck you blockbuster NYT’ instead.

    • Fivedollarfeminist

      Hmmm. I think the article counts as a blockbuster. The paper is … uneven.

      • Begin Anew Day

        Lumpy uneven?
        Or potholes in the road uneven?

    • ibwilliamsi

      Blockbuster describes the article, not the paper. Good try at obfuscation, though.

      • Begin Anew Day

        My beatnik poetry can’t be beat.

  • cm123

    This was known shortly after Comey was fired & Mueller was appointed. Rosenstein addressed it, saying Trump expressed interest in firing Comey. He said Trump wanted a list of reasons, but didn’t specify one. Trump first blamed Rosenstein for the firing, saying he suggested it, until Rosenstein publicly denied it. Trump later changed the story & admitted the real reason in the TV interview.

  • phoenix00

    Wait isn’t this also blackmail IN ADDITION to conflict of interest?

  • Brian Fowler

    Stupid question, but even if trump knew he could fire Mr. Comey without explanation, and did fire him without explanation, would anything have changed?

    Intent still matters. It would still look like trump fired Mr. Comey to save his own hide. Authority does not equal immunity.

  • Shibusa

    I somehow missed Rosenstein working with McGahn to get Comey. But McGahn has a long history of professional scumbaggery.

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