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Donald Trump is mad. Mad that someone looked at his emails without his permission.

Let’s put aside the brain-melting irony of the guy who “loves Wikileaks” and encouraged Russia to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails bitching about having his communications “unlawfully” accessed in a criminal investigation. If we stop to point out every clanging hypocrisy in Trumpland, we’ll never get to the point that this new tantrum from the Trump transition team lawyer is UTTER BULLSHIT!

But, like Evan told us on Friday, we do have to examine some of the monkeyshit the the Fox News howler brigade is flinging in the air to try to discredit the Mueller investigation. So let’s glove up and make quick work of this, then we can all get back to our Sunday lives. Donald Trump does not get to ruin our weekend, dammit!

Yesterday, Fox reported that Kory Langhofer, lawyer for that august legal institution Trump for America, had sent a letter to Congress protesting “unlawful conduct” by the General Services Administration (GSA) and possible violations of privilege and the 4th Amendment by the Mueller team. He didn’t elaborate on what privilege might have been violated or how the their 4th Amendment rights had been abridged. But, Fox News had their had their GOP marching orders, and they marched their worthless hearts out.

Oh, FFS! What had happened was, the Trump Administration installed Richard Beckler, a veteran of Rudy Giuliani’s law firm, to head the GSA. With their guy in charge they assumed that whatever incriminating shit they said in their presidential transition team emails would stay hidden — and you know damn well they probably all sent emails like, “Check out my sweet new government email, Oleg! We’ll 86 those sanctions in no time! Peace out, bro.” Because they are just that stupid.

Axios reports,

Trump officials discovered Mueller had the emails when his prosecutors used them as the basis for questions to witnesses, the sources said.

The emails include 12 accounts, one of which contains about 7,000 emails, the sources said.

The accounts include the team’s political leadership and the foreign-policy team, the sources said.

Buzzfeed published Langhofer’s letter in full. He claims that Beckler verbally agreed in June that all the Trump Transition emails were the property of the Trump team and would not be disclosed without consulting with Trump’s lawyers. Beckler died in August, so we’ll never know about this supposed verbal agreement. Without a Trump crony heading up the GSA, Lenny Lowentritt, a career civil servant, took over the top job. And when the Mueller team came looking for those emails, Lowentritt consulted the terms of use for the ptt.gov domain. Buzzfeed reports,

“Beckler never made that commitment,” he said of the claim that any requests for transition records would be routed to the Trump campaign’s counsel.

Specifically, Loewentritt said, “in using our devices,” transition team members were informed that materials “would not be held back in any law enforcement” actions.

Loewentritt read to BuzzFeed News a series of agreements that anyone had to agree to when using GSA materials during the transition, including that there could be monitoring and auditing of devices and that, “Therefore, no expectation of privacy can be assumed.”

Translation: “Yeah, no one reads the terms of service. But they still apply to you!” So Lowentritt handed over the whole cache to Mueller’s team.

Hilariously, Langhofer claims both that the Trump team’s rights were violated, AND that Congress needs to change the laws to protect future presidents from having their privacy rights violated. Which is moronic, but still good enough for Kellyanne.

And Jeanine Pirro is ready to make a citizens arrest of Robert Mueller and throw him in email jail her own crazy self.

Lunatics gonna loony, right?

Back at the grownup’s table, Peter Carr, spokesman for the special counsel’s office, issued a statement last night.

When we have obtained emails in the course of our ongoing criminal investigation, we have secured either the account owner’s consent or appropriate criminal process.

Tough luck, Donny! You don’t own the account. Sad!

And before we finish here, we’d just like to point out the Mueller has had these emails the whole time. He’s interviewed the entire Trump brain trust, asking hundreds of questions based on the transition emails, and it took them until now to figure it out. Was it White House counsel Don McGahn who finally had the Eureka! moment during his second interview this week? You know damn well it wasn’t Kushner, who is probably congratulating himself for using his own server and is too dimwitted to realize that Mueller has the emails he sent to other members of the team.

In sum, this is all just more bullshit to try to discredit Mueller. People are panicking that Trump will try to kill the investigation by firing Mueller (or Rosenstein) over Christmas, and it is the opinion of Your Five Dollar Feminist that we need to be ready to TAKE TO THE STREETS if that happens. You can sign up here for alerts to protests in your area. Stay woke, Wonkers!

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  • TJ Barke

    Man, I hope we can shut down Fox for aiding and abetting treason…

    • BadKitty904

      But as long as Rupert Murdoch is part owner of the Republican Congress…

      • Somewhat Damaged Ron

        Right. Lock his Aussie ass up too.

    • Parakeetist

      Yaaas

    • armed_bears

      Pesky 1st Amendment. Gotta find coordination or criminal intent. Even lying is not illegal.

      • onedollarjuana

        Well, yes, it is illegal to lie. Say it and it’s slander. Write it and it’s libel. As far as I know only political speech is protected.

        • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

          And it would be challenging but not impossible to find criminal intent. All it would take would be the will to prosecute. [crickets, tumbleweeds]

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      They really, truly are as evil and pernicious as I’ve always said they are. State-run media has no place in America, especially since it’s run by the traitors on the reich. If Dems get full control of all branches of government I think they should yank their broadcast license.

      • TJ Barke

        Except it’s not really state run media, it’s oligarch run media, and now, a mostly oligarch run state.

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          Why stick to easily-verifiable facts? They don’t.
          /only half snarking

    • Kryptonian Canis

      They should at least have to register as a foreign agent, maybe start cutting their paychecks in rubles.

  • Nounverb911
    • BadKitty904

      Mueller is conducting a criminal investigation, Steve. You were committing treason.

      • puredog

        That’s a faux-Bannon account.

        • BadKitty904

          (Yes, I know, but thank you – others might not know.)

      • SisterArtemis

        Isn’t this a parody account?

  • armed_bears
  • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

    I’ve had this conversation more than once – it doesn’t matter if you work for the federal government or Honest John’s Fleshlights and Butt Plugs, LLC. If you are issued an e-mail from your employer, you have NO expectation of privacy using it. Your employer can access and read those e-mails at any time and for any reason with or without your permission. They own the account, not you.

    • SisterArtemis

      To be fair, Honest John’s Fleshlights and Butt Plugs, Llc tries really hard not to invade their employee’s email accounts, because they value the end-user experience.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        (snicker) ISWYDT

      • armed_bears

        Upvote and a taa-daa!

      • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

        Oh, you!

    • redblack

      “butt first amendment!!!11!1eleven!!”

  • Sheepshagger

    Dizzy with success.

  • TJ Barke

    Jeanine Pirro would have attempted to be a nazi collaborator in WWII.

    • tomamitai

      She’d do it now if she could.

      • TJ Barke

        She kind of is…

    • BadKitty904

      “Panzer” Pirro, the Voice of the Reich…

    • ManchuCandidate

      Attempted?

      • TJ Barke

        Back then her dumb ass would have been caught and jailed.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      They call her Goebbels

    • SayItWithWookies

      I knew there was something Vichy about her.

      • IdiokraticKulturKommissar

        She seems Shrewish to me.

    • Daniel

      Justice Haw Haw.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Does this mean we can shave her head?

  • BadKitty904

    Mueller must be getting close if the Republican propaganda machine is getting this het up…

    • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

      They’re all wee-wee’d up, aren’t they?

      • BadKitty904

        Sure getting there…

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      i think that whole “all your emails is belong to us” stuff has them (rightly) rattled.

      • Jamoche

        Idiots as they are, even they realize that an email that says “don’t let it get out because this is illegal af” is not something they want public.

        • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

          I would not be surprised if someone actually wrote.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      Of course he is, otherwise the Republicans would not be mouthing off and panicking.

  • calliecallie

    There’s this scene in Die Hard that comes to my mind often. The bad guys are shooting at the cops from the tower, and the stupid head police guy panics “They’re shooting at us.” And the black cop from the beat says, almost to himself, “They’re shooting out the lights.” And in fact, that’s just what they are doing, shooting out the spotlights.

    I think that to myself often when I feel like I know what’s going on while others are panicking.

    Trump will not fire Mueller until he gets to sign this tax bill. Money trumps treason.

    • onedollarjuana

      Once trump signs that bill he is gone and pence is in. Then when the shit hits the fan pence can point at trump as the culprit.

      • BadKitty904

        Versus Hilary and Bamz? How will that be different?

      • puredog

        It’s not going to happen that quickly or smoothly unless Trump steps down voluntarily, and I don’t see why that would happen quickly or smoothly.

    • puredog

      Well, it sounds like Trumpie will get to sign the tax bill this week. So a Christmas Massacre could well be on.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Similar to is the John Cleese Sheriff in Silverado. Panicky posse member worried about long range shots from Danny Glover. Cleese calmly notes that the shooter is actually being quite good.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    I got two things to say about this: PROTESTS IN THE STREETS WILL GIVE DOLT 45 GROUNDS TO IMPOSE MARTIAL LAW. He will send the military into the streets, suspend elections, and arrest people without cause and imprison them without access to attorneys. I do NOT think this is a good idea AT ALL. You know that WE would be peaceful but it would be the usual shit-stirrers stirring up shit who would cause all the trouble.
    The other thing is that y’all who are on FB should follow Elizabeth Cronise McLaughlin. Her feed keeps me from going off the rails.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Assmouth doesn’t have the ability to declare martial law. If Nixon didn’t do it when people were surrounding the White House during Vietnam, Assmouth isn’t going to — because he doesn’t have the authority to suspend the Constitution.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        And many military officers know the rules pretty well… And would follow them.

        • TJ Barke

          Who needs the military when you’ve got militarized police?

          • Angela Ruzzo

            The police where I live are too lazy and stupid to do much damage, and our local jail is at 110% capacity. They are bailing out cocaine dealers because they have no place to put them, since the jail is full of pot smokers and traffic offenders who are too poor to pay bail. Our state prisons are at 105% occupancy. I am not worried about the police. But then, I am white, so I have not had any reason to worry about them.

          • TJ Barke

            Who needs jail when you’re itching to put down the undesirables?

          • Covfefe

            Ever notice that local cops don’t police union picketers? They always bring in state police.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Or National Guard. But I remember something interesting when I lived in Louisiana during Hurricane Katrina…almost the entire Louisiana National Guard had been dispatched to Iraq. They had to bring in Guard from other states, because the local Guard weren’t there. They also had to bring in police and firefighters from other states, because many of the local First Responders were either homeless, or had deserted their posts to help their families who had been flooded out of their homes. Some disgusting person stole the refrigerator from my flooded house, and when I called the police to report it, the two very nice officers who responded were from New Jersey!

          • Covfefe

            FWIW, a number of Michigan police agencies responded to Hurricane Katrina. The only thing police cars from Michigan did was park at major intersections. Every police car in Michigan can communicate with every other police car in Michigan. Louisianna State Police cars couldn’t communicate with Louisiana sheriff’s or city police cars. Nor could cars from other state communicate with other agencies from their own states. The only way to move a message was to drive to one of the designated intersections and hand the message to the Michigan cars which could move the message to any other intersection with a Michigan car.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Very interesting, thanks for sharing that. Communication was a BIG problem after Katrina. I could call people in other states on land lines but not on cell phones, and they couldn’t call me in Louisiana on either one. This lasted for about 6 weeks. However, I could make and receive texts from anywhere. Sometimes I couldn’t make in-state calls. Nobody in charge had the faintest idea what was going on, which is normal in Louisiana.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        well, i’m convinced he’s dumb and petulant enough to do it – whether anybody would obey is the question, IMHO.

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          See, that’s the thing – the congress is so thoughts-n-prayers about everything illegal that he does or threatens to do that I’m afraid if he actually DID order martial law, nobody would say, hey, you can’t do that, and act to stop him. It almost doesn’t matter what the law says if nobody’s prepared to enforce it.

          • SayItWithWookies

            I think the Joint Chiefs and Defense Secretary Mattis are knowledgeable enough about the law that they’d refuse. Additionally, ordering such an action would be an impeachable offense in itself, just in case any Republican congresspeople care to take note.

          • puredog

            They will take note, and then express “concern.”

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Wait wait wait. You just used “republican” and “take note” about an illegal, impeachable action in the same sentence. Do you need to sit down and put a cold cloth on your head? Are you having a flashback to the early 70s?

        • Angela Ruzzo

          Nobody with any real power would obey. Well, maybe in Texas…

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            hey! nah, it’s fair, our AG is such a Trump toady, I *almost* feel embarassed for him most days.

      • HazooToo

        See, I don’t agree with GGY entirely, but I also think Assmouth doesn’t give a shit whether he has the ability or not, and I really doubt anyone around him or under him cares whether he has the authority. You’re both partly right.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          Several high-level generals in the Pentagon have stated publicly that if they were given illegal orders by the POTUS, they would refuse to carry them out.

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            That makes me feel better. Thank you.

          • HazooToo

            This is supremely reassuring, but I doubt his fools in Homeland Security care too much about “illegal”, unless it’s directly followed by “immigrant”.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Homeland Security is a joke. They can’t get blue tarps to hurricane zones in less than 2 months, they gave Katrina evacuees in Louisiana drywall from China that was made with poisonous chemicals that made people sick, they still can’t get airport security to work after trying for 16 years, and they don’t know shit from Shinola and they couldn’t organize a Little League game properly. By the time Homeland Security came up with a workable plan, the Revolution would be over and the guillotines would have done their job.

          • HazooToo

            Thank you, I sure as fuck hope so

      • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

        He would take to Twitter to complain and assert that he SHOULD have the power.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      There aren’t enough police and National Guard available to do this everywhere in the country, and there aren’t enough jail cells to put all the people in if they try. So unless they pull a Kent State and start shooting people en masse, or start corralling thousands of people in sports arenas and shooting them there, as was done in Chile after Allende was overthrown, I don’t see this happening.

    • SisterArtemis

      Got a hunch that, here in Oregon, our Governor and DC reps might be marching along side us. I imagine that’s true elsewhere as well. I’d love to see the results of throwing our elected reps in jail for rightful protest.

    • Younevercantell.

      So we DON’T meet up at the beer hall ?

      • Somewhat Damaged Ron

        ‘There’s all sorts of space at the back! Stop putsching!’

      • Celtic_Gnome

        Of course we do. A revolution without beer is a revolution not worth having.

  • tomamitai

    I never thought I’d be happy to see someone taken down by failing to read the TOS, but I am lololololololololololing now!

    • armed_bears

      Yeah, but I hear sinister chuckling from my Mac Mini, too.

      • redblack

        and the microwave.

        • armed_bears

          Thanks, Obama.

    • Can were start the human centipede soon?

      • armed_bears

        I call heads!

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      I never read the TOS but then again I’m not conspiring with Russians, just dropping F bombs and the occasional bulge pic

  • Victoria Ricola

    I expect TOTAL PRIVACY when communicating digitally, either from my job domain or google’s domain, and I bet not find out that Facebook can see my private posts either!!111!!!11

    • BadKitty904

      Good thing Wonkette doesn’t allow comments!

    • tomamitai

      Yeah, I’m sure it’s totally coincidental that I see ads related to subjects I’ve viewed on teh intertubes!

      • redblack

        we’re a series of rubes!

      • Younevercantell.

        Yeah but those Russian wives are really cute ! Just saying.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      assuming their making these arguments in good faith, all republicans would really benefit from a community college education like mine. IT”S SO USEFUL (in avoiding prison).

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    ya know, all these details and arguments aside, Trump & Co. CLEARLY don’t understand the concept of government transparency. Not surprising, I know….

    • BadKitty904

      Trump & Co. CLEARLY don’t understand the concept of government.

      • Doug Langley

        And that was supposed to be their selling point. “We’re not pro politicians, so we’ll get stuff done!”

        • BadKitty904

          We’re amateurs, so naturally we’ll do a better job than the pros!

          ~ GOPThink

          • John Thorstensen

            Hmm. They should try tiling a bathroom then.

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Or flying a plane, or performing surgery.

        • pstokk

          They got stuff done if by “stuff” you mean they secured loans from Russian mobsters and political fixers for inept, failing real estate deals that no-one else would finance. I mean not sure I could do that even if I knew how to bankrupt a casino.

      • IdRatherBeDancing

        You could just end the sentence at understand

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      It would save a lot of time if we just listed the six or seven things they DO understand.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        I can only come up with 3:

        GRIFT
        LYING
        and GRIFT?

        • pstokk

          Fascism
          Racism

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            heh, I would argue that’s more instinct than knowledge, but I’m feeling argumentative today

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Manipulating the under-educated

          • theCryptofishist

            So, they’re fucking themselves. As this article proves.

        • Werewolf

          Grift, grift, eggs, bacon and grift?

        • Historicat

          Money laundering

      • Celtic_Gnome

        I think it can be summed up as “Just do what you’re told, and Daddy will take care of everything.”

  • Fartknocker

    I’m assuming your name @ ptt.gov = Putin Transition Team. As someone who has a .gov in his e-mail address, you’re pretty stupid to assume any expectation of privacy. But, I have used my official e-mail to send Hillary’s risotto recipes to coworkers so I must also be complicit in the Benghazi attack.

    • BadKitty904

      IOKIYAR…

    • pstokk

      I understand it has to do with the slow stirring.
      Risotto is worth a few risks.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    Ever since that incident where the heroic captain Sullenburger (sp?) landed his plane on the river, I ask myself this question: “Are you going to be in the Hudson?” (Because of his calm, even tone when he said “We’ll be in the Hudson.” I would SO love to be cool under intense pressure like that, but my default is usually , um – let’s just call it the opposite of that). If my answer is, “No, you’re not,” then I try not to get my hair on fire over it.
    I think this is a moment when the Dolt 45 regime is going to be in the Hudson, so watching them run around with their hair on fire pleases me greatly.

  • Covfefe

    If your whole background is in the private sector and you run the government’s business as if it were a private business, letting Mueller have your emails prolly is a bit of a shock.

    • BadKitty904

      Good.

  • Somewhat Damaged Ron

    They’ve spent the last year-and-a-bit congratulating themselves on subverting America, and never once thought about the extremely noticeable paper trail they left behind them.

    • BadKitty904

      Life is hard. It’s even harder when you’re stupid.

    • OrG

      “But there’s NO paper!”

      • IdRatherBeDancing

        Hence the obvious confusion… when it goes into the cyber through those tubes it vaporizes … huh, no?

        • SisterArtemis

          Memory holes may be memorizing YOU, silly trumpers

  • Christopher Story
  • memzilla Ω

    I wonder if a judge could sign a FISA surveillance warrant against the president and vice-president? What evidence would convince a judge to sign it? I wonder if one has *already* been signed? There’s a Sealed Indictment “A” still sitting in a DC courthouse, you know…

    • SayItWithWookies

      They couldn’t sign a FISA warrant against a US citizen, is my understanding — but if they signed one against a foreigner suspected of some intelligence activity against us, and picked up Assmouth in a recorded conversation arising from that warrant, that’s legitimate evidence. That’s part of how they got Flynn and Manafort, I believe.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        IANAL but I would think they routinely monitor Russians, and, of course, when our First Dotard Family picks up a phone and says, “Hey, Vlad! Here’s list of all the counties in swing states where you need to hack the voting machines, good talking to you, too, comrade!” they notice.

  • Covfefe

    I just got a scare. If Mueller comes sniffing, would Editrix turn over our non-comments?

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Only to someone who’d really appreciate puns and dick jokes.

      • IdRatherBeDancing

        Quack

        • Martini Ambassador 🍸

          I changed that within seconds. You’re too fast.

          • SisterArtemis

            Sometimes not hitting refresh is a blessing

          • Querolous

            So was the original “sins and sick jokes?”

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        I’m not refreshing because I like it the old way. Duck jokes – we need more of those in the world.

      • Beautiful Soup

        “Put it on my bill.”

        • Doug Langley

          Are you trying to feather your nest?

          • The Wanderer

            Can we just wing it?

          • puredog

            Now you’re just egging them on.

          • The Wanderer

            That’s a fowl yolk.

    • SisterArtemis

      She would, as evidence against the trumpians…

    • BadKitty904

      Only as an online, leftwing version of “Pull my finger“…

    • Victoria Ricola

      I hope. I would be thrilled to have one of my angry Donald Trump jokes make the front page of Foxnews dot com.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Commie Girl? I think we’re safe.

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    We have an official state-run media and propaganda outlet now. This is how it starts, amigos.

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      It’s been that way for some time but particularly lit under Trump

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Entire Dumbass team right about now (but less dignified) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8704211b5749f851ca39994cc03f7df4360bb952a4cc03c5383c48acc5aa6ac8.gif
    And is state propaganda outlet Faux using Vaseline on the lense to film Krappy Ann these days?

    • exinkwretch

      That’s an outrageous slur! It’s cheesecloth, FFS.

    • theCryptofishist

      Beaker LieBULlzzzZZZZ!!!11

    • redblack

      beaker is way smarter than any of those muppets at 1600 pennsylvania ave.

      hell, so is fozzie, and animal. and that purple thing.

  • IdRatherBeDancing

    It’s a Coupe de’Ville with lovely Corinthian leather.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    I’d like to know what Kelleyeyeanneeee Conjob’s pay is. Just interested to know what a human soul sells for these days.

    • BadKitty904

      Esp. when paid with OUR tax dollars.

    • Assumes she had one to begin with. Facts not in evidence.

    • Oona

      179k ish is top administration salary. She and the Mr. disclosed 5 to 39 million in assets. Not sure how much is her business and the new house. Would love to know what her business partner is up to. Also is there an opiate crisis czarina salary increase and expense account?

  • The Wanderer

    My workplace emails and interoffice messages are all archived and are subject to scrutiny in the event of a lawsuit. That’s under Florida’s public records law, and woe betide anyone trying to get around it.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      its my understanding y’alls Sunshine Law is a very good one (for the public).

      • BadKitty904

        Though the Repugs are hard at work undermining it, it’s still one of the best in the nation.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          “well, it keeps getting us in TROUBLE!” – Fl. Rs.

          • BadKitty904

            Bingo.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            heh, remember, I worked in news in S. Florida for awhile. Those amateurs in NJ think they’re pros at political corruption, “PFFT” says every reporter that ever worked in Miami.

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            And in Eastern Kentucky.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            a Miami DA once bit a stripper on the boob.

            Your argument is invalid.

            (Kidding…but that was a fucked up story).

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            We just had five doctors and three lawmakers go down in a corruption case involving falsifying treatment records to rip off Medicare, and it didn’t even make the front page because A) only 8 people involved and B) again? Yawn.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            IKR?

            what is it with that scam anyhow? Is it just really really easy?

            I swear there was a story once a month like that when I was in news in Fl. Three, four, 8 people busted at some shady ass clinic….every few weeks.

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            If the bent doctors can find a bent state government worker who will sign off on the fraud, apparently it is pretty easy. They feather their nests and live high, wide, and mighty for a couple of years before somebody says, hey, doctors in poor counties may make more money than the cashier at the Dollar General, but not $3 million-homes-and-fleet-of-Escalades-and-private-jets-to-Tahiti more. Then the Banhammer of Loving Correction falls on them and their wives run for their seats in the legislature.

  • puredog

    Thanks, 5$F. I was trying to chew my way through all the conflicting reports this AM, and the TOS angle is the simplest dispositive approach.

    • Shan

      How stupid are these people? EVERYONE whose employer issues them a computer or phone or whatever makes them sign a thing that basically says nothing you do on that device is private.

      • puredog

        Well, I was confused earlier because I did not understand that the transition team had been assigned .gov accounts, and thought that they were just emailing as private persons before the inauguration, and under that misunderstanding could see how there might be a problem absent warrant or subpoena.

        • Shan

          Ah, I see.

      • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

        Of course trump org employees have those policies, but the trumps either didn’t know it, or are so arrogant or stupid that they thought it didn’t apply to them in the public sector since it didn’t apply to them in their business.

      • Daniel

        And even if they didn’t, enough companies do that you should just expect that to be the case.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    “no expectation of privacy can be assumed.”

    Well DUH! I think it is an established fact that NOTHING on the Internet is private, including emails, and including private email servers, considering the fact that ISPs turn them over in bulk to the government without the slightest objection and just about anyone over 5 years old can hack them. If you want “private” you have to meet face-to-face in the Deep Throat Garage and scan the area for bugs first. Today, that Deep Throat Garage would undoubtedly have security cameras, so there goes that idea. Mountain tops?…I think they are still relatively private. The middle of the ocean? Maybe not either one, now that we have global satellites spying on us. Even our CARS and TVs are spying on us, for god’s sake!

    • SisterArtemis

      Caves. Caves are obviously the answer.

      • theCryptofishist

        At least until spring when the bears wake up.

        • SisterArtemis

          Fortunately the bears are on our side

        • John Thorstensen

          Well, you can shoot ’em while they’re hibernating now, like any true sportsman would!

      • Covfefe

        Scott Pruitt has his $25K phone booth.

    • puredog

      Middle of the ocean would be okay if you are surrounded by bigly waters.

    • John Thorstensen

      I like to discuss sensitive departmental matters with my learned colleague on long bike rides in rural Vermont. Either that, or we lower the Cone of Silence.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        We have a very big and long hiking/biking trail were I live – it crosses the entire state. I used to walk on it every day with a coworker and we would discuss the daily insanity perpetrated by our two psycho bosses. The only other living things around were wild things such as frogs and snakes and rabbits and deer and birds and possums and mosquitoes, and they don’t speak English.

        • John Thorstensen

          They don’t speak English? That’s what THEY want you to believe …

    • theCryptofishist

      Microwaves, also, too.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I unplug mine when it is not in use, which is most of the time. It really annoys me that every time I plug it back in the clock starts flashing and it won’t do anything until I set the clock. What moron came up with this idea? I don’t need a fucking clock on the microwave.

        • Miles Monroe

          Well, a video isn’t much good without a time stamp …

    • Querolous

      “. Even our CARS and TVs are spying on us, for god’s sake!” Don’t forget the microwaves!

  • SayItWithWookies

    Hey Jesse Watters — some of Assmouth’s highest and most trusted subordinates have called him a moron, including our current defense secretary and secretary of state. Mitch McConnell has called him names and told him not to interrupt while Mitch is talking. Other Republicans have called him a traitor. This isn’t a sign of bias — it’s pretty much the normal state of affairs.

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Since Trump was elected, I’ve believed the chance of this shit ending up in the street to be very high. I’m down. But can we loot and pillage Susan Sarandon’s mansion first?

    • I understand that tar is a wonderful moisturizer. The feathers are just decorative.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        The Settling Of The Grievances is going to be epic this year.

      • exinkwretch

        And a rail is a splendid mode of transport!

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          on this scale, it might actually bring coal back.

    • Victoria Ricola

      I mean, if it gets to that point (and I don’t want it to because votes or whatever), I think pillaging the Sarandon mansion first is acceptable.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        I’ll bring beer.

        • Covfefe

          What? You think Susie falutes too high to keep beer in the house?

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            YES.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            She probably keeps some Pabst Blue Ribbon on hand to be down the hipsters.

    • puredog

      I’ve got dibsies on her dope stash.

      • georgiaburning

        Be careful, look what it did to her

    • BadKitty904

      I can’t imagine her having anything I’d want.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Her sanctimony?

        • BadKitty904

          Naaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

    • theCryptofishist

      I work a block from one of her ping pong clubs, in case anyone wants to serve her a molotov cocktail with a votes garnish.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        An idiot wealthy-and-entitled-through- inheritance BernOut client of mine got all evangelical about ping pong a year or so ago. I didn’t make the connection until recently.

    • Sunhead

      That is a fucking distraction. There is nowhere that Jill Stein vote going blue would have changed the result.
      With your lousy ‘feedom’ non-compulsory voting system chances are they would not have voted if she was not there.
      Do not get distracted by side issues at 2018, if there is an election. Get the fuck out and vote. See what happened in Alabama. Get out there, get people enrolled and get them to vote. Change the House, Change the Senate. Smash the gerrymanders.
      America, this may be your last opportunity to hold onto your genuine Democracy.

  • I do a lot of work with various state government agencies, and if you look at their computer screens when they turn them on, there’s a big, can’t miss it, right there in your face warning that anything can be monitored, is subject to the state FOIA.

    I’m going to assume that aside from the paper forms, the transition team got verbal briefings as well. Aside from the problem that some of them (Flynn) have been in government before.

    What this comes down to is they didn’t think the rules applied to them.

    • Kryptonian Canis

      They had a guy who was supposed to handle the thing, you know, like the mafia.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      They think laws are for the little people.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall
    • Anna in PDX

      Right, or private citizen FOIA. I had to go to a special training about how to decide which email I was allowed to delete given FOIA requests into our public sector department. Mostly it was, once stuff is out there and 24 hours have passed so there’s a server backup of it, the public has a right to see it. You are embarrassed that you emailed a coworker dissing another coworker? You sometimes use work email to tell your spouse what to get at the store? Too bad so sad. You are a taxpayer-paid worker, your communication at work has no expectation of privacy.

      • There was a huge flap with our governor when he decreed a “90 day retention policy” for e-mails, unless they were specifically marked as “FOIL potential.” The press and various public advocacy groups were lighting torches.

    • kareemachan

      Hell, I’ve worked for a school district, and was warned about sending ONE personal email on my school account.

      THESE BE IDJITS. OR MORANS.

    • shivaskeeper

      Unthinking arrogance by people who have never really been held to account before.

    • Kooolest G

      or maybe flynn was working for the russians the whole time. his mission was, let these idiots incriminate themselves so Vlad could watch our democracy collapse slowly. “no jared, it’s fine to use your government emails to cover up a crime, nobody will ever see this”

  • exinkwretch

    Team Trump: The gang that couldn’t corrupt straight.

  • OrG

    If tRump tries to fire Mueller
    1. It won’t work,State AGs are in on this
    2. Motherfucking RIOT

    • BadKitty904
      • Kryptonian Canis

        Stupid and uninformed. The WH staff is constantly trying to keep Trump in a bubble of happy smile-time news, so if he does decide to massacre the investigation, I’m sure the immediate public outcry will come as a huge shock to the dolt.

        (Remember, he was totally surprised by the backlash after firing Comey.)

        • kareemachan

          And ALLEGEDLY, omarosssssssssssssssssssssa.

          (She is a snake, so…)

    • Covfefe

      Seems to me, from my own special limb, the grounds under the administrative rule for removal of a special prosecutor are so narrow, Mueller would have a right to judicial review of the Attorney General’s decision to remove him and any reason tendered by a Trump minion for removal is not likely to survive judicial review.

      • puredog

        S Ct as presently constituted might just duck this as a “political question.”

    • Sunhead

      2. Motherfucking RIOT

      Whatever it takes to get enough unrest to suspend the 2018 elections.
      Whatever it takes.
      The way I see it is that they may have a problem with premature escalation.

  • Victoria Ricola

    I was told that Kush, Steve Bannon, and creepy Brad Parscale were tech gurus beyond compare though. LOLOLOLOLOL.

    • The Wanderer

      But Barron “knows all about the cyber.”

      Yeah, I know we shouldn’t drag the Little Prince into this morass, but the line was there, begging to be used.

      • Shan

        I think it’s fair to attack what Dolt 45 said. It’s not really about the boy.

        • kareemachan

          Yeah, but he’s getting older. With the drumpster as his father. As I used to say about Piper, “FREE BARRON!!!!!!!”

    • BadKitty904

      So we see.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    How ironic is it that all the assholes crying about partisan investigations were a-ok with spending ten gazillion hours investigating BENGHAZI11!!1!!

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      IOKIYAR

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      Silly, Benghazi involved Hillary … so it’s ok.

    • shivaskeeper

      Almost as ironic as an asshole who very literally begged a foriegn adversary to hack his opponent’s email and turn the information over the a shadowy non-governmental agency on Putin’s payroll for distribution to the world complaining about legally acquired emails that no one has seen outside the senders, recipients, and the duly sworn law enforcement agents who are using them as part of the basis of their questioning?

      As ironic as that?

  • msanthropesmr

    Fuck this shit. I’m getting back in bed. Wake me when it is time for the revolution.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Yeah, well set your alarm for yesterday.

  • weejee

    With the holiday rush, the Post Office is reporting that last week they intercepted 24,687 packages of poop addressed to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, DC.

    • OrG

      Hope some got through :)

    • kareemachan

      And I seem to remember that a woman in CO (?) was acquitted for mailing a politician a box o’ cat (?) poop. Falls under the First Amendment, at least there. But this is now drumpster shitgibbon’s Murikkka….

      ETA: Okay, I was hazy on details:

      https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/jury-finds-woman-not-guilty-in-dog-poop-protest-case

    • Miles Monroe

      Sure wish they could do something about all the s*** coming out

  • Ωbjectifier

    I’ve been a gov’t employee for more than 20 years. The first thing you learn is when’s lunch. Number 2 is all emails are public record.

    • The Wanderer

      I thought that the first thing was “Where’s the bathroom?”

      • Shan

        No, it’s “Where’s the good POOPING bathroom?”

      • It really should be “these are where the fire escapes are”

    • OutOfOrbit

      1st thing I was told: Never volunteer for ANYthing ! (USAF)

      • Arolpin

        Never
        Again
        Volunteer
        Yourself

        NAVY

      • Ωbjectifier

        I had a First Sergeant come into the shop one day, said he needed a volunteer. One airman raised his hand. “OK, you got the day off. The rest of you are doing this engine swap.”

        • Shan

          When I was in 4th grade, school officials did that to the entire lunchroom. It was traumatic getting fucked with like that as a kid. And it didn’t teach me to take risks, it taught me another lesson in why authority figures shouldn’t be trusted.

          • Ωbjectifier

            The military is a lot like 4th grade.

          • Shan

            I’d never have cut it in the military. I knew that even as a child. It’s not that I disrespect or resent authority in general, I just can’t keep my mouth shut when I’m told to do something stupid or inefficient.

          • Johnnymoreno

            Always felt that those types of lessons were the best argument for public schools.
            Basically, you learn how to deal with bullies, martinets, fools….tools you need for life.

          • Shan

            I think fewer people learn to deal with them than get broken by them or turned into bullies themselves.

        • OutOfOrbit

          Heard of such but never witnessed myself

      • Cogswell – Overlord of Barsoom

        If service members say that, I guess they’re speaking from experience, i.e., volunteering for the military?

        • OutOfOrbit

          The days of drafting

        • Quoting from Bill Murray in “Stripes” … We all have one thing in common. We were all stupid enough to join the Army!”

        • shivaskeeper

          Out of 23 years I very rarely regretted joining.

          • Cogswell – Overlord of Barsoom

            Lest I forget… Thank you for your service, shivaskeeper.

      • shivaskeeper

        I always just volun-told people to do things. So much easier.

    • shivaskeeper

      Number three is when all the 2 and 4 day weekends are.

  • Kryptonian Canis
  • georgiaburning

    So the guys screaming about Hillary’s private server maybe possibly getting hacked were not smart enough to understand that information transmitted on a .gov account is owned by the government agency that runs it?

    • Anna in PDX

      Love your gravatar!

  • Younevercantell.

    I thought he was gonna do everything by courier.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Has this thread already been posted? Well, it needs to be reposted:

    https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/942168454647484417

    • puredog

      It’s been posted, but is just a tad dated at this point, otherwise good.

  • Relativicus

    Worst. Fix. Ever.

    • BadKitty904

      These people are Moore-ons…

  • MasRioBravoHombre

    Once upon a time (summer of 2003) I was taking a University of Texas history class. There was a small group of disgruntled frat assplugs who tried to challenge the prof, over and over, attempting to prove she was spreading “liberal lies” instead of actual history. About the 5th class meeting, the prof said she had received emails from members of our class that attacked her in vile, sexually explicit ways. She was kind of wandering around the 300 person hall….then she stopped in front of these assplugs, and said,” Next time you send me vile attacks and threats, try not to be so stupid…you used a UT library computer…and you LOGGED IN WITH YOUR UNIVERSITY USERNAME.” This is the kind of stupid we now encounter with Drumpf and the Drumpflodytes. They are so certain they’re geniuses, but they are simply idjits.

    • doktorzoom

      And the name of that incompetent ratfucking fratboy was…. James O’Keefe.

      Now you know… The Rest Of The Story. Good day!

    • miss_grundy

      I hope your instructor reported these frat assplugs to the Dean of Students. They should have been expelled just for being stupid enough to attack her using their own university ids. Comemierdas, carajo.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    one of y’all just reminded me, isn’t all this outrage coming from a group of people who’s glorious leader used to listen in one telephone calls of his employees and guests at Mar-A-Lago?

    All this kvetching about invasion of privacy keeps getting more and more laughable.

    • Victoria Ricola

      It’s starting to get as good as the self-righteous and logic twisting FREE SPEECH!!1!! arguments.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      He made his respect for privacy clear by walking in on unclothed teenage beauty pageant contestants.

      • Shan

        And his excuse was that he owned it so he could inspect it.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          Ding ding ding.

  • Anna in PDX

    The chutzpah involved here is breathtaking. As a longtime public sector employee I know that nothing I put in writing at work is private. That is what running for public office entails. The stuff you say is public interest and not private anymore. At home, you can be a private citizen. Not at work. All those DNC folks who trash talked Sanders were trotted out to prove I do not know what and the one argument we did not make was that they had an expectation of privacy. We pointed out that being partisan is not a crime, etc.

    Every time you even sign on to a public sector email it tells you “by the way be aware what you type may send you to jail.” Well not in so many words but that is the clear meaning.

    Argh. This is what you get when you have completely no understanding of the difference between government and the private sector.

    • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

      And even in the private sector, the company owns the computer, the e-mail account, and the phone. So they can monitor any or all of it.

      • Anna in PDX

        Right but a journalist can’t do a FOIA request on internal private sector communication like they can for public sector. My salary is listed in my local paper every year. I have no work privacy at all.

      • Back when I was a system admin, I spent many an unhappy time explaining to various people that they were not to put AOL on work computers. Yes, this was back in the 90’s. When they whined about being able to check their e-mails, my response was “that’s why you have one here. If you want to check your personal ones, wait until you get home.”

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      I don’t know if it’s lack of understanding, or just inability to make a distinction. They all signed on with Trump in the belief that the “government” was a personal fiefdom to loot as they pleased, starting at the top.

    • BadKitty904

      It’s so difficult to discern how much of this is arrogance and how much is stupidity.

      • puredog

        Some is just plain poop-throwing.

        • shivaskeeper

          All three. Arrogance and stupidity from Two Scoops and his “best people”.

          Arrogance and poop flinging from his supporters in the GOP, Fox News, and the PACs. A little stupidity mixed in, but not much.

          Stupidity and poop flinging from the base. Very much stupidity and poop flinging.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Why not both?

  • susan_g

    Since cheeto has been conversing a lot with Putin lately, I expect that Vlad’s advice was to have some bothersome people “accidentally” killed.

    • If they accidentally get some polonium in them, they die of natural causes. It’s perfectly natural to be unable to live after being poisoned by radiation…

      • Somewhat Damaged Ron

        Much like being shot is ‘lead poisoning.’

    • Victoria Ricola

      No kidding. And what is up with the daily phone calls now anyway? They talk to each other more than I talk to my mom.

    • BadKitty904
    • Angela Ruzzo

      Trump would have to outsource that, because he and his family and most of the people in his immediate vicinity are far too stupid to do such a thing properly.

      • Jamoche

        Of course, he’d be expecting that. Just like in NYC real estate, where you outsource to the mob, at the government level you outsource to the Russians.

  • kareemachan

    O. M. G. Their shit is totally hitting the fan right now. A pack of hysterical, LSD-driven psychoboobs (oh wait…) couldn’t have reacted more stupidly.

    • Rags

      But since all this bullshit goes straight from Fox to 4-5’s head cavity, is he now rushing out from his throne to you’re fired Mueller and the FBI?

  • Anne Of Green Bagels
  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Uh, sure, because we were gonna forget about public admissions? Egad, he’s a dumb fuck.
    https://twitter.com/RepSwalwell/status/942429397214285824?s=17

    • Somewhat Damaged Ron

      ‘We move to strike, Your Honor.’
      ‘On what grounds?’
      ‘Because it proves my client is guilty as fuck.’

    • BadKitty904

      Wait, you mean “public office” is actually “PUBLIC”?

    • Victoria Ricola

      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      He’s got to be delusional at this point, right? He was on TV for years. How . . . what the . . . I can’t . . . I . . .

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        i’m pretty sure it’s a joke….(right?)

        • Kryptonian Canis

          Seemed like congressional-grade snark to me.

    • shivaskeeper

      His Tweets are evidence. Presidential Records Act. Anything he email, writes, Tweets, puts on Facebook, or anything else is subject to the PRA.

      • shivaskeeper

        I missed the joke didn’t I?

    • Opalescent Riddles

      @realDonaldTrump objects to Mueller obtaining video of his obstruction of justice admission to @LesterHoltNBC.

      Yeah, because NOBODY saw it or could possibly testify as to what they saw, or even make a spot-on parody of it:
      https://youtu.be/ZBPt335vcAQ?t=56s

  • Master Contrail Program

    Judge Jeanine’s tightened countenance is starting to remind me of someone. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c97f81ba413ddc0ec987e1478f6309cc302e14bd840f425edf8ca57b186d97d2.jpg

    Be sure to book Electorate Mayhem for all of your wingnut gatherings!

  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

    But Hillary hid her emails. Impeach!!!!!

  • WIDTAP

    Next up – Trump lawyers object to the use of Trump’s tweets as evidence, claiming an expectation of privacy and the chilling effect on future transition teams if they can’t use social media for privileged communication.

    • Jamoche

      Somewhere, an Onion writer is considering using that for a lede, and then deciding that it’ll be true before it hits the page.

  • WIDTAP

    “Specifically, Loewentritt said, “in using our devices,” transition team members were informed that materials “would not be held back in any law enforcement” actions.”

    See children, this is why you always read the terms of service before clicking the Accept button.

    • BadKitty904

      “Informed” by whom?

    • Shan

      That “would not be held back in any law enforcement actions” part made me go “huh, so they were expecting some and explicitly warned them beforehand?” Or maybe it’s normal to say that.

      • Anna in PDX

        It is normal. I have to log on to a HUD database and it is not just a message at login but whenever you draw funds. I get threatened with jail multiple times Daily is what I am saying. And that is HUD not a “deep state” agency.

        • Phried Ω

          Along with monitoring of keystrokes, no expectation of privacy, and consequences of loss of privileges, administrative action, or prosecution. And everybody in government knows this including every congressional staff summer-hire intern.

          • Courser_Resistance

            I’ve never even been military and I’ve always observed Personal Operational Security to keep my personal and business/work shit separate. Long before I could access my personal email on my cell phone, I rarely accessed my personal email accounts from a job. I simply didn’t do it. I sure as hell never kept my personal email open on my desktop! Work is work and personal is personal.

            Sure, some of this is because I’ve worked contract a lot, but I also never did it as an employee, either. Colorado is an ‘At Will’ state, which means your employer can fire your ass at any time and for any reason OR NO REASON AT ALL. Which I have had happen and it’s awful.

            My work philosophy has always been to do as good a job as I possibly can. My employer doesn’t care or need to know anything about my personal life. I’m forthcoming with my managers on an as-needed basis, but I’m not going to facebook with them.

          • Phried Ω

            No, I don’t want to buy your kid’s fund raising chocolate that tastes like soap. I don’t want to contribute to the coffee fund when I always have to make a new pot. And why is it you only get a going away cake when you quit and not fired or laid off.

  • Kryptonian Canis

    Let’s face it, the credibility of the accusers leading this smear campaign against the FBI is questionable at best.
    https://twitter.com/Stonekettle/status/942432185512071168
    https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/status/938821239854034944

    • The Wanderer

      Aggravating matters is that Gingrich praised Mueller to the skies not so very long ago.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        He doesn’t understand his tweet did not just disappear into the ether.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      and exactly WHY does a man who hasn’t held office in like 20 years get invited on so much? (Rhetorical question, cause in his retirement he’s become a dependable poop thrower that follows the party line).

      • Covfefe

        I would think someone like you would understand. when you run your news operaiojn 24/7, you need to get someone to sit on those panels. Fast.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          heh, whadda mean someone like me?!?

          kidding..

      • shivaskeeper

        Not only not held office. He was driven out in shame by his own party for, among other things, rank hypocrisy, and almost driving them into the ground between the contract for America and pushing the impeachment.

      • Younevercantell.

        That shit at Tiffany’s ain’t cheep. He’s gotta keep the present wife for a while til its paid off.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Every time Newt opens his yap on a talk show, someone needs to ask him what it was like ditching his wife for another woman while she had cancer.

      • From Russia with Love

        Eh, no biggie.

      • shivaskeeper

        He loves America too much. He had no choice.

        The better question would be how id it feel to be driven from office in shame by your own party?

    • wait! what?

      Like we needed another reason to dislike the Vatican…

    • H0mer0

      he and Callista are now using the same hair color so they can order it in bulk, I suppose.

    • OneYieldRegular

      “Agressive Democrat donors”? WTF?

      “Here! Take my money for your stinking campaign, damn you! And none of your lip!”

  • kareemachan

    And…. the guy’s dead.

    Huh.

    • Somewhat Damaged Ron

      Killary strikes again!

      • Perkniticky

        Sounds like we need another Congressional investigation!

  • doktorzoom

    Also also also: As the Norm Eisen tweet above points out, if this were a serious LEGAL complaint, it would be filed in court, not in the form of a complaint letter to Congress.

    Team Trump doesn’t have the facts or the law on their side, so they’re pounding on the table.

    • The Wanderer

      And their minions in the media are happy to take off their shoes and pound the table in time to the beat.

      • Jamoche

        *heads for bleachers and starts pounding “We will, we will impeach you”*

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          • HooverVilles

            Not Lori again?

      • Courser_Resistance

        Let them form their sad, lonely drum circle. May they evaporate in a vortex of their own hate.

        • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

          Make it so FSM.

          • Clarence Spangle
          • HooverVilles

            Or Ceiling Cat or doG or Xenu or ????

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Whatever speaks to you.I don’t care which deity does the heavy lifting.

          • HooverVilles

            Exactly!

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            As long as one does.

          • tomamitai

            I’m torn between Hairy Thunderer and the Cosmic Muffin. https://youtu.be/gFLvhKv-Lbo

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Lol. That’s why I like the Flying Spaghetti monster. I first read of him/her /it in a Jim Butcher novel. Although I really like the work of The Satanic Temple is doing for bodily autonomy. I hope they get more popular.

    • BadKitty904

      They’re waiting ’til the Republican Congress has sufficiently packed the courts before they try that route…

      • HooverVilles

        Truth!

    • Rags

      Soon they will be pounding sand.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        They will all be in the making big rocks into little rocks business.

        • OscillateSauce

          I witnessed a sailor sentenced to 30 days of “hard physical labor” for punching a Chief Petty Officer. He was made to make big rocks into little rocks everyday, except for Sunday. In the hot tropical sun, no less.

    • H0mer0

      they’re asking Congress to “DO SOMETHING!”

      • Clarence Spangle

        Sanders got Jewed… ha ha ha…
        ✡ Bolsheviks (((Bernie Sanders)))
        ✡ Mensheviks (((Debbie Wasserman-Schultz)))

    • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

      This was a classic case of “rolling the press”—-they got some great headlines out of this, before various media outlets (I’m talking about you, Washington Post, do you need a talking-to?) started to realize they’d been rolled by the Republican agitprop machine.

      Once again.

      And of course the right wing press—Fox, Drudge, Breitbart, Sinclair (which means several hundred local TV outlets), and the “both sides” gang on the network Sunday shows–is continuing to barf out scare quotes and insta-polls.

    • OneYieldRegular

      Judging from the quality of the people the Trump team is trying to put on the Federal bench, it’s highly unlikely that it even occurred to anyone on the team that a court might be a better place to file a complaint than, say, on Twitter.

    • Bright Bart

      did they mail the letter or just post it on MySpace?

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    in other news:

    “Washington (CNN)Half of registered voters want a Democratic-controlled Congress, according to a new poll, signaling a competitive 2018 midterm election season in which Democrats will aim to gain back control of both chambers of Congress.

    Fifty percent of registered voters say they would prefer Democrats control Congress, while 39 want Republicans in charge, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Sunday.”

    THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE FUCKING VOTED FOR DEMOCRATS….

    ahem, apologies for the yelling.

    • BadKitty904

      No apology necessary for telling the truth.

    • OrG

      Democrats got more votes in 2016,but with gerrymandering it doesn’t matter.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        i was JUSt thinking, this can probably be explained by the way our system gives lopsided representation to “certain” places.

      • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

        It matters: it’s just a whole lot harder for Democrats because of gerrymandering.

        Now is not the time to be fatalistic. Now is the time to tell yourself (and everyone you know) Even if my vote isn’t enough to take us over the finish line, by gum at least I will have voted: and by voting, I will not have given my consent to this fascist scum.

    • BosGrl

      It’s difficult not to scream bloody murder in frustration.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      He hires the Best People! Apparently by “best” he means the ones who stroke his ego.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        Dear Madam,

        I write on behalf of at least 65 million Americans and untold number of foreigners to respectfully request that you immediately cease, desist, and refrain from using the words “stroke” in reference to Mssr. Trump in any communication, whether oral or written, on any platform, foreign, domestic and interstellar, from the moment you receive this request forward into perpetuity.

        Most Sincerely Yours,
        Errybudy.

        • WIDTAP

          Is there an exclusion for the medical report: “Trump disabled by stroke from excessive McD burgers.” (with votes)

          • Dept. of Space Tacos


            < . . >

            We’ll have to send it to a subcommittee to research and report back.

        • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

          Pfft. And since when is trump a Mssr.

        • John Thorstensen

          ” Dear parents. Due to yesterday’s unscheduled field
          trip to the auto wrecking yard, the school bus will be out of commission
          for two weeks. By reading this letter out loud, you have waived any legal responsibility on our part in perpetuity throughout the universe. “

    • Phried Ω

      Terms of service is not a government thing. The non-fine print reads a lot more like the terms a mafia loan shark lays out. There is no ambiguity or veiled threat. They are promises of prosecution if you are stupid or fuck up.

    • From Russia with Love

      Well… fuck.

    • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump

      That cracks me up every time.

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
    • BadKitty904

      Republicans are ready to argue ANYTHING that will keep them in power and their snouts firmly lodged in the public trough.

    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      He should troll them by sending them individually.

      • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith

        With all the evidentiary matter highlighted.

  • RobespierreHoo

    I have said it early and have said it often. Mueller has these bastard’s nuts in a vice or tits in the wringer, as the case may be. Any attempt to fire him, fire Rosenstein, fire the 8th person down the list ,until they find their Bork will only end in a shitstorm. And Jesus Pence knows this, and he knows they’ve got his pasty white sanctimonious ass ,too. Seat back trays in the upright and locked position, seat belts fastened, captain is expecting windshear on approach.

    • Anna in PDX

      Your typing fingers to FSMs noodly appendages

    • BadKitty904

      I have said it early and have said it often – the Republicans are not going to give up control voluntarily.

    • Kryptonian Canis

      Also too, with whatever AG Schneiderman has on these bastards as insurance against another abuse of presidential pardon powers.
      https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/eric-schneiderman-donald-trump-new-york-214734

    • ariel_gee_398

      He is also infinitely more intelligent than anyone on or representing Team Trump. He surely already has a plan in place if they try anything.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        The clerks he hired to do scut work are smarter than anyone connected with Team Trump.

    • Courser_Resistance

      Awesome, my ulcer just made itself known again.

      :::checks to see how soon she can get a flight to Oslo:::

    • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith

      Considering the shape of your average Republican (Blake Farentold, lookin’ at you) its is perhaps nuts in a vice AND tits in a wringer.

  • Rags

    Department of Heavy Irony –

    ipaddress reports that the server for ptt.gov is located in Pocahontas Village

    /heavy irony https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b477e96f065d2a4318965d3a21350c55a9c7edffbaf7a10ef7b8b28affa256b1.jpg

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      “Those smoke signals are privileged!”

      • Shan

        “They drifted over a lawyer!”

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          rofl – well done.

          • Shan

            *curtsies*

        • shivaskeeper

          I believe that wins you the internet for the day.

          • BadKitty904

            Hear, hear!

      • eggs ackly-wright

        And the white devils cannot decipher the drums.

    • Nockular cavity

      “In beautiful County View Mobile Court, right next to Mt. Trashmore!”

  • Courser_Resistance

    How fucking stupid are these people? When I was the treasurer of a small city, one of the cost saving things I did was get ALL city employees on the same goddamn cell phone plan and provider. Cuz it really was small, everyone needed the Nextel Connect thingy at the time in case anything big went down. Cuz small, virtually all of the staff would have to jump out of bed and show up.

    When I issued the new phones, I told everyone: This is not your personal phone, it is the city’s phone. Just like a phone in the office here. I don’t care about occasional, short personal calls to take care of personal business. HOWEVER, every phone call, every internet search is subject to Open Records laws. So if you’re cheating on your spouse, don’t use your city phone to hide it! The city will NOT have your back on that or anything else of a dishonest nature.

    • From Russia with Love

      Yeah, 20 years active duty USAF and 15 more as a DoD civilian agree.

      • Courser_Resistance

        Barack Obama had just accepted the nomination at the DNC here in Denver the weekend before I started working temp as treasurer. I had to establish new policies and procedures and transparency was always top of my mind. My decision making wasn’t expressly WWOD (What Would Obama Do?) but definitely inspired by the example he led.

        • From Russia with Love

          Say it if it is true. And job related.

    • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

      We’ve had to haul more than on employee in and tell them “Do NOT use your work e-mail to solicit sex on Craigslist!”

      • Querolous

        One of our diesel mechanics decided to print out a bunch of dick jokes. He mistakenly chose the printer in the HR office.

    • RobespierreHoo

      That’s the rule, with greater specificity the higher one goes up the government food chain, that all public employees must abide. Federal rules are the most explicit. This is only a “mystery” to yahoos who liken it to their personal Obamaphone, i.e. Trumpanzees and Foxy Foxes.

  • Younevercantell.

    “You’re writing checks your ass can’t cash. That $16 million plane ain’t yours. It belongs to the taxpayers ! “

  • Holiday Bozi

    If Team tRump goes nuclear and fires Mueller, and progressives take to the streets, does tRump and the Repug Congresscretins think this will be to their advantage in the 2018 election?

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      And are they really so ignorant that they don’t think there will be massive demonstrations? Don’t they get moveon tweets?

    • Kryptonian Canis

      Seemed to me that the only thing preventing a massive public uprising in the wake of the Jim Comey firing was the appointment of Bob Mueller as Special Counsel. Maybe Republicans don’t quite realize how narrowly they averted a worse case scenario at the time.

  • Carpe Vagenda
    • The Wanderer

      Ted Cruz watches porn at work?! An open question to Wonketteers:

      What kind of porn does Ted Cruz watch while at work?

      • shivaskeeper

        50/50 it’s plain vanilla sex, man on top missionary, but with the lights out so all you really see is a blank screen, of some really specialty kinks.

        • The Wanderer

          (chuckles) I wrote a short bit of gay BDSM watersports porn two weeks ago. Makes me wonder if Cruz would show interest.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            i’m guessing you’re not referring to kite surfing? (cause that looks like fun).

          • The Wanderer

            Um, no. The setting, interestingly enough, was a ski resort shortly before Christmas.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          i was going to guess some kind of soup porn.

          • The Wanderer

            Some WAM porn, then.

          • shivaskeeper

            I deliberately avoided mentioning anything in particular so that innocent people would not be subjected to even a brief though of Cruz wanking it to some fucked up shit.

            Thanks a lot.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            i was neither the first nor the last! spread the blame around a bit.

      • redblack

        obvs gladiators.

      • Shan

        Boogers.

        • redblack

          lol. is that a thing?

          • JustDon’tSayMoore

            Rule 34.

          • Shan

            I’m not gonna look.

          • The Wanderer

            Yeah.

      • nightmoth

        Girl brings boyfriend home to bang: they are caught by girl’s Mom, who likes what she sees and joins in. The “Mom” in the video looked kinda like Mrs. Cruz, according to my friend.

      • JustDon’tSayMoore

        National Geographic (Ted Cruz excites easily)

      • Daniel

        Entropy porn.

        Yes, he does, and it is incest porn

        • The Wanderer

          Hee!

      • Master Contrail Program
        • The Wanderer

          LOL

      • Master Contrail Program
      • Old Man Yells at Cloud

        I don’t want to know details, but I would bet it has to do with soup:
        http://gawker.com/after-his-honeymoon-ted-cruz-immediately-bought-100-ca-1770893594

      • Treehopper1104

        “Clammy” and “off-putting” come mind as possible descriptors

      • puredog

        It’s actually very sentimental, G-rated, softcore stuff where he imagines that his daughters are not repelled by him. Sad, really.

        • The Wanderer

          Oh, The Old Cripple and His Daughters? I used to have that on VHS.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        i will NEVER stop posting this:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v75wCTMZoSY

      • Carpe Vagenda

        A woman who looks like his wife masturbating while she peeps on her daughter having sex.

        https://mobile.twitter.com/antwnzrr/status/942475385186369536

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      explaining Vader to Mark Hamill – another brilliant move on behalf of one of our Senators.

      Is Louie Gohmert going to explain non-violent resistance to Gandhi and MLK next?

      • Shan

        According to some religions, he’d have to be dead to do that. But then he’d have to not be in Hell, too.

      • Kryptonian Canis

        And Star Wars canon doesn’t even support the argument Ted Cruz is trying to make.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Did anyone mention yet that Gregg Jarrett is a total fuckhead?

    • redblack

      nope.

      gregg jarrett is a total fuckhead.

      • Rags

        So it is true that Gregg Jarrett is a total fuckhead? I read it on the internets somewhere. Many people say he did an amazing job.

  • Michael R
    • The Wanderer

      Brilliant analogy.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        If it were ben (crazy) garrison it would be labeled.

        • The Wanderer

          True, but liberals are educated, so we don’t need the labels.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Lol. I was picturing the scorpion labelled trump and trump voter as the pepe frog.

    • miss_grundy

      I guess he considers hard-working Americans to be those millionaires and billionaires who live off of the work of others.

  • Perkniticky

    A lecturer at my university was fired for sexually harassing a student – the proof was in his university email account, which the university had perfect right to access. Even that guy was not as stupid as Trump.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      i hope he is that smart.

      • John Thorstensen

        I have at times invoked by high-level lawyer acquaintance who knows this kind of situation inside out and who has read the various indictments and so on. He believes Mueller and his team are the very best in the business — there’s nobody better at this kind of game.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          if he got all the people noted somewhere on this thread, including Noriega and fucking Gotti (the man known as the Teflon don FOR AVOIDING SUCCESSFUL PROSECUTION), Mueller and Co. may be thinking this is all too easy.

          • John Thorstensen

            My friend says the tactics are identical — catch the little guys, get them to cooperate, give away nothing in their indictments (hence the right-wing chorus of “It didn’t have anything about Trump and the boyz’ll be home by Christmas!”.

      • puredog

        Assuming for the moment that the rule of law triumphs in the end and that we are freed from this nightmare and that Mueller eventually writes a book about this, I will read the fucking hell out of that book.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          Mueller 2024?

    • MasRioBravoHombre

      Dealing with Drumpf is akin to babysitting an especially stupid, horribly spoiled 3 year old. It ain’t hard to stay ahead of his dumb ass.

      • puredog

        Said toddler does, however, hold a .45, so you can’t be too careful anyway.

      • Kryptonian Canis

        He’s never really got what’s coming to him. God, I hope that all comes to an end soon.

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      Everything in Mueller’s career background is that he is thorough, effective, and doesn’t play the sort of games everybody–Republican or Democrat–wants to attribute to him lately.

      And keep in mind, he got Noriega, Gotti, and he banned FBI personnel from participating in the Bush Admin’s detainee torture program, and it was him, Ashcroft and Comey who demanded Judicial oversight of the Terrorist Surveillance Program.

      • Old Man Yells at Cloud

        You mean he’s a competent professional? No wonder Lil’Donnie hates him.

        • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

          I mean he is both competent and “by the book”.

    • miss_grundy

      If Dotard Asshole tries to fire Mueller it will only make people even more suspicious than they already are that he is hiding something. And then I feel sorry for every Republican congress critter and senator out there because their offices will be mobbed with very angry people and no amount of Capitol police or police in their districts will stop constituents from mounting protests. The tsunami will be huge.

      • OrG

        Yes! Tsunami!

      • Raan

        Shit, I don’t. They brought this shit, whether or not we have to take to the streets, on themselves.

      • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

        His behaviour so far is essentially an admission of guilt. Firing Mueller would make it undeniable.
        Well, undeniable to sane people.

    • BadKitty904
  • azeyote

    i tried to feel what it would be like to be a right wing loon like Pirro but my head started to explode so i got into the Ouzo early –

    • puredog

      Oh, IIRC (and it is, admittedly, blurry) you may regret that tomorrow, should you make it that far.

  • Count Awesome

    Tomorrow Trump will declare he IS the government!

    • Anne Of Green Bagels

      Worked real well for Louis XIV.

      • Who also liked ridiculous gold plated shit. At least Louis’ was real gold

        • Anne Of Green Bagels

          Versailles is the original grotesque. Rump Tower is the tinsel knock off. old Louis liked the whole saber rattling and starting wars thing a lot also, too.

      • BadKitty904

        Also Louis XVI.

        • Anne Of Green Bagels

          until he lost his head.

        • Rags

          “Louis XVI was 5 foot 9 at the start of his reign and 5 foot 3 at the end of it….”

    • puredog

      “Le tot, c’est moi!”

      • Daniel

        “Le twat, c’est moi!”

        • puredog

          GM sorta TA

        • BadKitty904

          Zut!

      • Transgender Fetus McGoo

        “Après moi, le pipi.”

    • phoenix00

      He’s known that all along. In his own head of course.

  • nightmoth
  • Robyn Ryan

    Isn’t this from the people who encouraged the Russians to steal and reveal DNC emails?

    • miss_grundy

      And to reveal Hillz’s emails as well. This is why I despise Republicans. They love to pull shite on people but lordy don’t do the same to them or they start squealing like a stuck pig.

      • BadKitty904

        They’re hypocrites’ hypocrites.

      • Darlene Underdahl

        And they’re all like that; even the Republican neighbors. They pull stuff on each other, then cry to us.

    • BadKitty904

      Why, yes. Yes, it is.

    • puredog

      You noticed that, did you? Points for sentience!

  • Lyly Sirivong

    [Langhofer] claims that Beckler verbally agreed in June that all the Trump Transition emails were the property of the Trump team and would not be disclosed without consulting with Trump’s lawyers.

    Would such an agreement even be legal ?

    • MasRioBravoHombre

      Nope. More delusional nonsense.

    • Only with a pinky swear witnessed by KellyAnne Conjob.

    • puredog

      Dead men tell no tales!
      Beckler was a Trump hack, and his verbal agreement might have bound him. When he kicked, some career GSA guy took over, and was silly enough to follow the law rather than some Beckler side-agreement that he might or might not have even heard about.
      The Gang Who Couldn’t Corrupt Straight, indeed.

      • Rags

        The failure of 4-5 to be able to expeditiously find another Trump hack to put in Beckler’s place-just more evidence of their damning incompetence

    • BadKitty904

      Only if they crossed their hearts.

    • TundraGrifter

      I doubt it. Suppose you have an issue with a website and you finally get to speak with a human being in the US of A and you’re told “Hey, Buddy, you should have read the Terms of Service” and you respond with the clever “Well, Jennifer in Bangladesh told me…” See how far ya get. You betcha!

    • Mike

      How can it be…? The emails had a .gov suffix…they were the property of the US and not his to do what he wanted.

      • wavicles

        And, as noted downthread; property of US govt. means that those devices, (thus, the emails) belong to The People

    • Kryptonian Canis

      That’s not really much of a concern for your typical Trump appointee.

  • MasRioBravoHombre

    It’s a great fucking day.

  • Cogswell – Overlord of Barsoom

    I have a feeling Mueller is kicking the door in on the republicans and their whole rotten to the core party and they all know it and are running scared. Hence, this whole attempt to smear and discredit the investigation.

    • BadKitty904
      • Covfefe

        Which serves as a reminder. “Deep Throat” was an FBI dude. Nixon pised him off. Donald, for his part, has taken om the whole FBI. History, it rhymes.

        • Old Man Yells at Cloud

          Lil’Donnie has pissed off the FBI only base he could not get them to piss on him. #PeeHookers!

      • Old Man Yells at Cloud

        That sounds exactly what Obama said about… nothing.

    • Transgender Fetus McGoo

      Your lips to Glob’s ears.

      • John Thorstensen

        #!/usr/bin/env python

        import glob

        flist = glob.glob(‘*’)

        [That is real code that would actually run. ]

    • Mike

      Agreed, Trump didn’t become president without the blessing of the traitorous RNC

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
  • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

    My favorite part of all this, is how even KellyAnne Con Artist is too chickenshit to go on MSNBC because she knows she’ll get called on her bullshit. In fact, it’s tough to find a trump flack willing to go on anything but Fox these days.

    • I bet Rachel would be happy to welcome her for a live interview again

      • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

        Secret footage from Maddow show staff meeting

        https://i.ytimg.com/vi/x49NwjnwDUw/hqdefault.jpg

        • Holiday Bozi

          I understand the sentiment, but I don’t see Rachel’s staff as a pack of hyenas.

          • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

            Oh, not at all, I was just going for the facial expressions

    • WIDTAP

      Kellyanne has been kinda quiet since “Kellywise” appeared on SNL. Shame. It’s one of my favorite Kate McKinnon characters.

      • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

        One of my favorite features of Sexual Revolution 2.0 is the Badass Lesbian package

      • Kryptonian Canis

        Oh yeah, she’s a demonic sewer clown. They nailed it for a moment there, but then dialed it back for some reason on the pre-xmas show.

    • Count Awesome

      Only preferred propaganda outlets are to be used by the Trump administration for interviews.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      State media only

  • Michael R

    She wasn’t legally allowed to speak until she was disparaged by
    Rupert Murdoch , which she was , and here she goes …

    https://youtu.be/KXynr3L_jhg

    • From Russia with Love

      Just saw it on CNN. Eat shit, Rupert.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        I was hoping Jerri Hall would help him along in his quest to find out what happens in the afterlife, (with votes).

    • Kryptonian Canis

      Yeee-hawww, light em up!

    • John Thorstensen

      That’s really powerful.

  • Zyxomma

    What a week. Thanks, $5F.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    and you people think law isn’t fun:

    “On December 28, 2015, Appellant and Mark Derouville went into Alto Parts Plus, an auto parts store, to buy a sawmill battery and to test a car battery. While in the store, they conversed with the salesperson, Cheyenne Deal. The store’s owner, Cynthia Hicks, observed Cheyenne looking uncomfortable and formulated a reason for Cheyenne to leave the conversation. Hicks asked the men if she could assist them. At that time, Derouville began singing. J.R. Altum, the district manager, was in the store that day and told Derouville that singing was not appropriate in a place of business and asked the men to leave.

    • TundraGrifter

      Maybe he never saw “Elf.” If he had, he’d have known you can’t sing in a retail store. Or at the North Pole.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      Alto Parts Plus is clearly not located in Louisiana, where people sing spontaneously at the drop of a hat, which attracts customers who often sing along, and this is pleasing to local businesses.

      • BadKitty904

        Or Florida, where customers – including myownself – occasionally sing AND dance in places of bidness.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Lately, some of us cashiers occasionally break into song (Christmas songs) and the customers love it, and some sing along with us. Or clap.

      • John Thorstensen

        Alto parts plus? Is that for when your countertenor is on the fritz?

      • phoenix00

        And not an Indian Bollywood movie?

      • Bitter Scribe

        Once I was working at a company that had just undergone a takeover, and our new CEO was due for a visit.

        It was a dreary day outside, and my boss called to me, “It’s drizzling out! Do something!”

        I couldn’t think of anything else to do, so I started singing:

        Gray skies are gonna clear up
        Stick out that noble chin

        People in other cubicles started joining in:

        Puff up your chest and cheer up
        Put on a happy grin

        Soon the whole office was in on it:

        And spread sunshine all over the place
        Just put on a happy face!

        Right when we got to “happy face,” our new CEO walked in.

        He blinked and said, “Well, it’s good to see there’s high morale here.”

        • Angela Ruzzo

          LOL! It’s good to know there is a CEO somewhere with a sense of humor.

    • BadKitty904

      “Meanwhile, in Texas…”

    • Darlene Underdahl

      Right off the top of my head: Derouville is a sociopath.

    • HazooToo

      Singing what?

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        IKR? Doesn’t say…

        • HazooToo

          I mean, there’s a big difference between ‘Frosty The Snowman’ and ‘Sit On My Face’ XD

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            is “Sit on My Face” available on iTunes? Asking for a friend…

      • John Thorstensen

        Doo-wah-diddy, Diddy-dum, diddy-doo!

        • HazooToo

          Okay yeah, arrest him, then

    • Anne Of Green Bagels

      the war on Christmas is real.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      This is my favorite frivolous lawsuit:
      “Webster Lucas, a California man who recently had a unsatisfactory visit at a Pacoima, CA McDonald’s restaurant, has not had enough…napkins, that is. On a visit in late January, 2014, Lucas alleges that after asking for an extra napkin with his food, the Manager on duty – described as a Mexican-American – mumbled something that Lucas took to be racially discriminating. He claimed in a letter to the location’s General Manager that the incident left him “unable to work because of the undue mental anguish and the intentional infliction of emotional distress” caused by the man who may or may not have provided him with an extra napkin.The price tag Mr. Webster has assigned to his emotional and mental distress? $1.5 million dollars.
      https://www.ranker.com/list/the-13-dumbest-lawsuits-in-recent-history/williammtx

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        in my very short time, i have seen these (well, not THIS frivolous, but close) and its what puts me off the plaintiff’s bar.

      • BadKitty904
        • Bitter Scribe

          But was he the prosecutor or the defense attorney?

        • John Thorstensen

          Was he, perchance, lying at the time?

          • BadKitty904

            Evidence indicates…

          • Bitter Scribe

            And did he proceed to hang from a telephone wire?

        • phoenix00

          It’s also Florida. There will always be a more Florida story than the last Florida story.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Somewhere out there Florida man is saying “hold mah beer.”

      • Jamoche
        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          heh, I like the venue too – “Mr. Jack Ass of Flathead…”

          poor bastard.

          • Jamoche

            He changed his name intentionally, for reasons that make sense only to wingnuts.

          • Toomush_Inferesistance

            It used to be Jack Shit….

        • Angela Ruzzo

          Is that a pseudonym for Donald Trump?

    • Beautiful Soup

      I often break out into song at auto parts stores, but it’s solely because of this commercial: https://youtu.be/l5I5qAQP794

    • Daniel

      You don’t sing at the autoparts store. You sing at the car wash. At the car wash, yeah.

  • John Thorstensen

    A relative of mine and one of his good friends were both elected to the selectboard of a small town. They actually stopped seeing each other socially during the time they were both on it, to avoid looking as if they were circumventing the open meetings law.

    Then again, they were both actually ethical.

    • BadKitty904

      Some Americans understand how government works.

      • Shan

        And ethics.

        • BadKitty904

          What a concept.

          • pstokk

            Government and ethics? Jeez ain’t you fancy.

          • BadKitty904

            Waddaya think this is, a free country or sumpin’?!

            ~ The GOP and its owners

      • Zyxomma

        None of them is a Trump, a Trump supporter, or Trump adjacent in any way.

        • BadKitty904

          Like I said – “Americans”.

    • Bitter Scribe

      “Selectboard”? You must be from New England.

      • BosGrl

        It’s a gender tongue twister. Select-people? Board of selectors? My hometown calls it “Town Council” now. My adopted town still calls it “Board of Selectmen”. Of course, they also voted for Trump.

      • John Thorstensen

        Doxxed! I’m under my own name, so anyone can figure out where I’m at. Probably with GPS-like accuracy.

    • Courser_Resistance

      When I was the treasurer, I rarely let a vendor or someone like that take me to lunch, but there were some folks I could do lunch with. However, I made sure that every lunch was in a city restaurant in the open where anyone who cared could hear the conversation. And citizens would often stop by the table to be introduced to whomever was hosting.

      Transparency: It works.

      • phoenix00

        Get receipts. Write on it who you dined with and for what purpose.

  • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump
    • BadKitty904
      • OneYieldRegular

        I don’t even know why I have emotions and gestures any more since cats can so ably take care of them for me.

        • BadKitty904

          An excellent point…

    • phoenix00

      > The criminal should never be able to dictate the terms of evidence collection.

      Boggles me why grown adults need to be told this in the year 2017/18.

      • John Thorstensen

        “grown adults” — There’s your problem, right there.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        Bad educational system. And they’ve been mainlining faux noise entertainment.

    • SayItWithWookies

      But — but — but the president, appointed as he is by The LORD, has the divinely-mandated ability to do anything he wants! It’s just history, people!

    • Bright Bart

      that is the BEST!

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Wow, even the deadbeat dad isn’t having it:

    https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/942414862264799232

    • Fifth-and-a-Half Element
    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      GODDAMMIT 2017 STOP MAKING ME AGREE WITH HORRIBLE PEOPLE

      • Jamoche

        Statistical anomaly. No worries.

      • OrG

        No, you’re not agreeing with them,they’re agreeing with YOU.

    • BadKitty904

      I’ll believe him when I see him cast his vote for impeachment.

      • Werewolf

        Fortunately, he’s no longer in Congress.

        • BadKitty904

          Exactly.

      • Blackest Noobs

        well…he can’t….because he lost his last election bid.

        • Bitter Scribe

          To none other than Tammy Duckworth.

    • Jamoche
    • Christopher Story

      Glad to know you’re on the right side of this, now go pay your damn child support

    • From Russia with Love

      I have a mansion but forget the price
      Ain’t never been there, they tell me it’s nice
      I live in hotels, tear out the walls
      I have accountants pay for it all

      They say I’m crazy but I have a have a good time
      I’m just looking for clues at the scene of the crime
      Life’s been good to me so far

    • Blackest Noobs

      Who the fuck is this guy? Did aliens butt_probed Walsh and changed him from the inside out?

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      I’ve taken to calling Joe “Sybil,” myself.

      • Daniel

        Cashandra.

    • Chyron HR

      WTF I love the Eagles now?

  • Blackest Noobs

    incompetence is a bitch, eh?

    • The Wanderer

      For the stupidity of our adversaries, Allah make us truly thankful, amen.

  • Nockular cavity

    Wait, the government has access to email on servers it owns? This is an outrage!

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      it’s clearly unethcial for them to be conducting government business on their own servers….wait…

    • BadKitty904

      WE own. WE own and pay for the government.

    • shivaskeeper

      The servers, the cell phones, the desktops and laptops, the blackberries, all the phone and other transmission lines. the building the servers are in, and pretty much everything in between you and whoever received the email.

    • phoenix00

      Russians getting access to e-mails on a private server? DO IT!

  • Blackest Noobs

    O/T:

    so let’s say there are 325 million peeps living in the
    US of A.
    and to run the federal budget, and just the federal budget, cost about 4 trillion dollars.
    if everyone living in the US, and i mean everyone, from yo babies to clergy dudes/dudettes, gave .05 cents per day ( about 18.75 a year) as a tax to pay for Fed Budget.

    there would be a 2 trillion surplus the govt could reinvest.

    and yes crazy idea and there’s definitely things i am missing that could change those numbers or make the idea not feasible.

    however that’s better than this sham of a plan…where we put it on the credit card and then put the bill to the poorest among us..i.e. everyone other than people like Donald Trump to pay a few years down the road.

    fuck that. 5 cents a day is way helluva better deal.

    • Rags

      this does not compute.

    • yyyaz

      Your math is off by a factor of 1000+.

      • natoslug

        I think he meant 5 cents per day, not .05 cents per day. 0.05 * 365 *325000000 = 5931250000. Which, sure, is a bit short, but only by about 5.5 trillion.

        • yyyaz

          Using a nickel per day, the actual factor is 656.41. Which, times $18.75 = $12,307.69 x 325,000,000 = $4 trillion. That is $12,307.69 for every living person in the USA per year to pay in taxes just to prevent running a deficit.

          • natoslug

            I’m lost in the math somewhere. First, I only end up with $18.25 when multiplying $0.05 * 365, not 656.41. Where does the 656.41 come from? My assumption from the original math problem was a nickel a day for a year for 325 million people. Assuming a standard year, wouldn’t that just be 0.05 * 365 * 325000000? Maybe I need more coffee.

          • yyyaz

            I apologize for running the proof backwards after doing the original calculations. See if this helps:
            Start with a budget of $4 trillion. Divide by 325 million, and you get $12,307.69. If each person contributes $.05/day, that equals $18.75/year (but only for our example because it actually equals $18.25). But, we have already seen that it takes $12,307.69/per person per year to raise $4 trillion. So, dividing that $12,307.69 by $18.75 equals 656.41. Using $18.25/year yields an even greater factor: 674.39.

          • natoslug

            Okay, we were approaching this from different directions. You were showing what would actually be needed, I was showing that we fell a wee bit short with what was originally posted. I would love to only have to pay $12K/year in taxes. Of course, my kids would probably be a bit upset when they had to pay their shares.

      • Blackest Noobs

        oooooooooh i forgot….billions….ha ha….good brain…you worked well enough to drive 9 hours but forgot about billions….good job my brain.

        • yyyaz

          Shit happens. I just like math.

    • Werewolf

      FYI-we clergy dudes and dudettes do, in fact, pay taxes.

  • capnkrunch

    PSA from a SysAdmin

    Here is a non-exhaustive list of things I know about you (if I care enough to look it up):
    -Every time you log into one of our computers or VPN into our network.
    -Every program installed on your computer.
    -Every file you download.
    -Not just the recipients but the contents of all your emails.
    -What documents you open and when you open them.
    -What sites you visit, when, and for how long.
    -I can watch your screen without you knowing.
    -I can copy any file to or from your computer without you knowing.

    When you’re using computer equipment (including company laptops), accounts, and bandwidth you don’t get expectations of privacy.

    You know what the more fundamental problem is here? EMAIL IS NOT A SECURE PROTOCOL! I can’t stress that enough. Email is unencrypted so anyone who can intercept it can read it. Do your conspiracies with PGP or Signal. It astonishes me that confidential government business is done over regular email.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      -Every time you log into one of our computers or VPN into our network.
      -Every program installed on your computer.
      -Every file you download.

      Worst. Police. Cover. Ever.

      • natoslug

        Every cake you bake.

        • BadKitty904

          Everything is jake.

        • Msgr_MΩment

          Ghey wedding cakes are those cakes we like.

        • Toomush_Inferesistance

          Every cum you fake.

          • natoslug

            I SWEAR I DIDN’T JUST POUR HOT YOGHURT ON YOUR THIGH!!!!!!!!!

          • SDGeoff3

            Neither did I spit upon it.

        • grindstone

          Every leaf you rake.

      • SeekingCovfefeBarbie
        • Msgr_MΩment

          ISWYD cause I been watching you.

        • NorthernSaber

          Hard to believe people play this song at their wedding. Listening comprehension: it’s s thing!

          • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

            Like politicians playing inappropriate songs: You Can’t Always Get What You Want, Born in the USA.

          • NorthernSaber

            Love it when right-wing asshats blast out “Born in the USA”. Sometimes irony does NOT find a way…

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Bush wanting to use Little Pink Houses.

      • Daniel

        Don’t stand so close Comey.

        • Daniel

          De do-do-do, tard-tard-tard,
          Their innocence won’t pull you through.

          • Nockular cavity

            Keeeeellllllyanne! You don’t have to go on Fox tonight,
            sell your soul for money.
            You don’t have to sell your brain to the Right.
            Keeeeellllyanne!

    • TJ Barke
    • Phried Ω

      Classified material shouldn’t be sent on a non-SIPRNet or similar network. SBU (or CUI when NARA gets around to implementing it) shouldn’t be sent unencrypted. The number of mandatory annual traing courses required of everyone using government systems is at least 4.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Heading off for now on this “hell yes!” note:

    https://twitter.com/EricHolder/status/942481938165747712

    • BadKitty904
      • Daniel

        Trump’s inauguration?

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          that’s what KAC tells him.

          • Christopher Story

            It’s just a filter, Donald, see, you can make pictures on your phone look black and white too

        • BadKitty904

          He wishes. Vietnam War protests, 1969…

        • Phried Ω

          I would be okay with that at the opposite end of the mall.

    • yyyaz

      I wonder when or if a former USAG has ever called for mass demonstrations against a sitting administration. Jeezus.

      • BadKitty904

        Interesting point. And clearly indicates just how criminal this Administration is.

      • Christopher Story

        Our grandkids history books are going to be so interesting

        • SDGeoff3

          I have found myself wishing for a return ticket in about 70 years to read those books.

  • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump

    Ooooooh, this is a delicious little tidbit.

    “The transition team lawyer learned of the records being provided to Mueller by GSA on Tuesday when a member of the transition was being interviewed by investigators and was shown a copy of their own email using transition account.”

    HAHAHA so they only found out on TUESDAY that Mueller had these emails, after how many people Mueller has interviewed?

    Lying to the FBI is a felony, bitches.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-unlawfully-obtained-emails-trump-transition-team-says/2017/12/16/6162f350-e2cc-11e7-8679-a9728984779c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpemails-1010pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

  • Courser_Resistance

    I just thought of a really simple, general rule for dumbasses regarding who has access to what.

    Who pays for the device/server, you are using?

    If you pay your cell phone bill, then law enforcement will probably need a warrant.

    If ANYONE ELSE pays for the device/server, they basically have access to all your shit. Emails, internet searches, basically any fucking thing on the device. They can also give permission to a third party to look at your shit because you don’t own that!

    • OrG

      Oh,you and your Liberal Logic.

      • Phried Ω

        Liberal logic. Legal logic. Same diff.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    He didn’t elaborate on what privilege might have been violated or how the their 4th Amendment rights had been abridged.

    The white kind?

    • BadKitty904

      The IOKIYAR Defense.

    • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump

      Well it can’t be executive privilege because he wasn’t the FUCKING EXECUTIVE yet.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Dictatorial Privilege?

        Nah, that won’t work. Only Putin can invoke Dictatorial Privilege. His Kompromat servants are on their own.

  • Somewhat Damaged Ron

    fucking chains on the fucking JD refuse to stay on the fucking tires… go twenty feet, they come off and wrap themselves around the fucking axle, so I lie down in the snow and wrestle them off and remount them, and they fucking come off AGAIN… I’m cold, I’m wet, I’m fucking FURIOUS, the JD is stuck on the front walk because it just slips on the ice, and I have first-degree fucking frostbite on my hands from handling freezing cold chains with fucking gloves that turn out to NOT be waterproof…
    Should prolly head out and come back tomorrow because I have NO sense of humour left.
    Night.

    • phoenix00

      Take care of yourself Ron

      Besides, what’s the worse that can happen?
      https://i.imgur.com/ltj8d.gif

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        Hahahahaaa!!

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      I totally get this. Sometimes the mountain winters felt like one big, long, cold, miserable ass kicking from life. Be careful!

    • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

      I hate chains!

    • Covfefe

      Nothing runs like a deer

      • Somewhat Damaged Ron

        It RUNS fine, it just doesn’t MOVE.

    • Holiday Bozi
    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Do that. Start out tomorrow, with deep breath and new patience. And maybe a couple of hydraulic lifts…

      • Somewhat Damaged Ron

        I’m hoping to get the thing in the air this morning, between showers of freezing rain.

    • puredog

      Well, your hands are not too numb to type, so there’s that.

      • Somewhat Damaged Ron

        The nerves in the fingertips of my left hand haven’t worked in ages thanks to multiple table saw accidents, so I’m used to it.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Not that there was any doubt. Careful guy is careful.
    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/942420402382483456?s=17

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      I like the fact the spox used the word “criminal”

      • BadKitty904

        If the handcuffs fit…

        • BosGrl

          They’ll have to use old Roy Rogers kid cuffs for this particular criminal.

          Edit: Or whoever. I wasn’t a boy in the ’50s :D

          • BadKitty904

            Hey, as long as they work…

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Jeez, I read that as Roy Moore’s kid cuffs and got grossed out

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Works as a descriptor of the people who are whining, too.

      • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump

        Yeah, that’s gonna leave a mark.

    • Kryptonian Canis

      Well it wasn’t “consent”, so Trump’s transition team must be …

      • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

        Inter-Agency request to the GSA which already had a Legal Hold on all of their emails.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Engaging in “bad touch”?
        Hitler?

        Give us a clue here.

      • wavicles

        Rape victims?

      • efoveks

        Po-utin’ in the corner?

      • SayItWithWookies

        Getting what a lot of them have dished out.

      • VirginiaCannedYuleLog

        Crimeans?

    • TundraGrifter

      We knew that before he said it. This gentleman has done it before and he takes it careful step by careful step. No slipups, no unforced errors, no mistakes, no drama. And no leaks!

      • Covfefe

        This isnt exactly the first time Mueller and his crew have run an investigation.

      • Apple Scruff

        I’m confident there is a kick ass back-up plan should he be you’re fired.

    • eyelashviper

      I just had to go to the Dotard’s twitter page and type:
      C.R.I.M.I.N.A.L

      • The Wanderer

        Have you been blocked by his Twitter minder yet?

        • eyelashviper

          NO, though I have tried my best. Someone said they only delete now, but lots of tweets are assailing him, and a few sad bots type copy and paste stuff to keep him happy.

          • The Wanderer

            It’s SAD! and WEAK! that a 71-year-old man needs to constantly have his ego massaged.

          • SDGeoff3

            He’s broke, so go easy on him.

          • Tetman Callis

            The fuck I will.

          • SDGeoff3

            Thank you.

        • Parakeetist

          I cuss out La Trump a lot, and he still hasn’t blocked me.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Now I feel dirty for thinking: Terms of Service? Fuck yeah!

    • The Wanderer

      Hmm! A nice title for a bit of written smut.

  • Anne Of Green Bagels

    remember what happened to the Marketing Department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation when the revolution came?

    • The Wanderer

      Something something first against the wall something something?

      • Anne Of Green Bagels

        something something clearly violating the non-commenting rules.

        • Hesavebread!

          With votes.

          • Anne Of Green Bagels

            lots of them.

    • TJ Barke

      We’re gonna need a longer wall.

    • RobespierreHoo

      Paging Ted Williams, Mr. Williams please pick up the white courtesy phone.

  • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

    BREAKING: McCain to Miss Tax Bill Vote https://t.co/os28sILopU— Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) December 17, 2017

    • BosGrl

      Very sorry for the reason. Not sorry for him missing the vote.

      • SDGeoff3

        And that is perfectly Okie Dokie.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      just means Pence breaks the tie, no? (Or is there no tie what with Jones not seated and conyers and franken out or on their way out, can’t keep track).

      • Holiday Bozi

        Demand they stall the vote until Jones is seated. After all, the people of Alabama have spoken.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          “yeah, but that might mean we lose AND WE CAN”T HAVE THAT” – congressional Rs

        • Toomush_Inferesistance

          Who’s gonna bell the cat, now?…

        • SayItWithWookies

          Or demand that they pass a law to fund the government first — money runs out on December 22nd, and Congress hasn’t done shit about funding for this fiscal year, 1/4th of which is almost over already.

      • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

        Means 1 Republican can break ranks (probably Collins) and Pence can break the tie on the 50-50 vote. Franken hasn’t formally resigned.
        Now if Thad Cochran from Mississippi misses it, they have no margin and need Pence.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          i thought collins had finally been bought and paid for this week?

          • Shan

            Me, too.

          • Daniel

            You were up for sale?

          • Shan

            I see I need to continue to more carefully monitor my phrasing.

          • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

            Corker got paid off. Collins got a handshake promise from a group of serial liars. Pressure back home is mounting on her (she apparently has not gone back to Maine at all the last two weeks).

          • NorthernSaber

            Bangor Daily News ran a story yesterday that she’s extracted a bunch of useless promises, and she’s been getting lit up in the press. Folks have picketed, whole nine yards. She’s vulnerable from the hard Right, and up here in the Maine 2nd getting primaried would be a real concern. I don’t see her voting “No” unless a bunch of others give her political cover- lots of it.

        • Raan

          And even then, if the Democrats and Independents don’t show up, there’s no quorum.

    • natoslug

      How very mavericky. Your last vote on this disaster of a bill shows us who you are and what sort of legacy you are leaving.

    • Apple Scruff

      From what I read, it doesn’t matter? Fewer Congresscritters present just means the GOP needs one less vote for majority.

      I hope this is wrong or that I read it wrong (I wish I could find the article, I cannot remember where I read it).

    • RobespierreHoo

      Though incapacitated, he said through a spokesperson that he was still “deeply concerned”.

      • SDGeoff3

        I still find him “deeply not trusworthy.”
        One can crash only so many aeroplanes.

      • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

        That and $5 will get you a cuppa.

  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    But in some good(?) news, 538 has donald’s approval rating at 36.4% today, the lowest since he took office. It appears there is some softening on the far right…

    • The Wanderer

      That’ll be their brains.

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        Assumes facts not in evidence.

  • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump
    • BadKitty904

      Why, it’s almost as if he’s trying to tell us something…

    • Nockular cavity

      Oh, and BTW: 2 years ago, who had Tea Pain down on their list of Heroes of the Revolution?

      • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump

        I don’t understand the question.

        • Nockular cavity

          His Twitter game regarding the Trump resistance has been continuously on point. As in, quite knowledgeable and informative. Maybe it’s me, but I hadn’t noticed him being particularly political before.

          • theCryptofishist

            Wait, I thought his name was implicitly political. Of course, I only see him when you guys repost him, so I may have a skewed view.

          • HazooToo

            I never thought I’d be encouraging Mr Sulu to run for office, either, but here we are.

  • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump

    There might be hope for this country after all.

    63 Percent Of Americans Believe Donald Trump Tried To Obstruct Russia Probe
    And 40 percent believe he did something “illegal” with Russia.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-obstructed-russia-probes-poll_us_5a35ccb8e4b040881beb27f0?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

    • BadKitty904
      • Courser_Resistance

        If we’re going to do torches, I think we need a tutorial on YouTube or something. When we were kids, bro & I tried to make torches out of tree branches and some cheesecloth we found. It wrapped around the sticks great! However, when it burns, it drops flaming bits down on your head, so no bueno.

        • BadKitty904

          You cover said cloth with metal screening or chickenwire, to hold it in place. Or so I’ve been told.

          *shifty look*

          • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

            Thanks for the tip.

          • theCryptofishist

            So, first the crafting session, then the march. Got it.

          • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

            Home renovations store run!

          • theCryptofishist

            Be sure to patronize your local, artisinal hardware store, not Home Despot.

        • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

          I plan to take my plastic Halloween pitchfork.

          • Courser_Resistance

            For Realz we should source some LED torches. I love the symbolism of torches (and YES! Pitchforks, of the non-lethal variety!) but a big crowd of pissed off people with LITERAL torches is NOT a good idea. For one thing it’ll make the cops *really* unhappy and our purpose is not to piss off the cops over stupid shit. That would be stupid shit.

            And WTF am I doing? Am I trying to fucking plan something? I do not know..

          • SeekingCovfefeBarbie
      • Résistance Land Shark Ω
  • jaspersdad
    • Victoria Ricola

      The klan hood on the top of the christmas tree is inspired.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    i really really need to get you all that video of bastard cat climbing the ladder…(is it terrible i laugh when he slips a bit? [but doesn’t fall!] Cause he looks at me like I’m terrible when he does that.)

    • BadKitty904
      • Jamoche

        Only when 1000 cats all dream the same dream together.

      • Bub, the cynical zombie

        I would welcome our new kitteh overlords. In fact, I would happily work as a fifth columnist on their behalf, as long as I get lots of cuddles…

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        pffft – he keeps saying that, but I’ll believe it when it hap – OW MY JUGULAR!!

        • bupkus231

          That made me envision the “Death by A Thousand Clawings”, where an unspecified number of cats claw you until you divulge the secret of the can opener….

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Elderly Senile Cat does not approve of Wonkette time. He does this to try to keep me off the tablet https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/67a307422fb23f4a45c35b1dc9885e5624b748c4fe4e9666aae5649c6f6db017.jpg

      • BadKitty904

        Pay attention to MEEE!

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        90 lb grandpuppies do that to me. Unfortunately, they don’t have retractible claws like our kittehs.

      • miss_grundy

        Your cat baby knows that his time with you is getting short and just wants all your love and attention. You will miss your baby when he’s gone. I know I miss my doggie babies very much since they crossed the rainbow bridge.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        when I read a tablet or a book in bed, bastard cat thinks that’s CLEARLY made for him to lie on top off to get my attention.

      • SDGeoff3

        Oh he wants a snuggle. We can wait.

      • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

        Some cats get more clingy as they get old. We need to ease them to the Rainbow Bridge.

        • Rebel Scum with permit

          He would tell you he’s not ready yet. He may be skinny and forgetful, but he loves his wet cat food, his snuggles, his heated pad, and time in the sun. As long as they get pleasure out of life, it’s my feeling that they should keep on.
          It’s my lymphoma kitty, who is much younger, who I think I’ll need to say good bye to We are waiting to see if steroids help her, but I’m not seeing much improvement.

          • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

            When my beloved kitty was declining from cancer I got him a heated kitty pad and put it on the table so he could look out the window and sometimes we would sit on the front steps together. That made him so happy.

  • BadKitty904

    OT: For those of you who are fond of Pickapeppa products, their Hot Mango Sauce is the bestest!

    <– continues eating leftover empanada

    • Christopher Story

      That sounded like English, but… Lol, just kidding! Thanks for the suggestion and enjoy.

      • BadKitty904

        It may be a Florida Thing…

        <– now has mango sauce all over himself, dammit

        • MsEdgyNation

          Pickapeppa is Jamaican but it’s easy to find in Florida.

          • BadKitty904

            And yummy!

  • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

    Kushner Sued By Own Lawyers Over Unpaid Bills – https://t.co/w0gZhdGzZ2 pic.twitter.com/vmc0oRhyoW— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) December 17, 2017

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      does NY have lawyer’s liens…cause I hope they do.

      • yyyaz

        Even if they do, a Chapter 11 Bankruptcy filing allows them to be drastically reduced or even wiped out.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          and wouldn’t even be a frivilous bankruptcy filing, from what I’ve been hearing

    • Raan

      Apparently, no one in that family pays their bills.

      • OneYieldRegular

        Pfft. Paying bills is for little people.

    • OrG

      Imagine that.

    • Anne Of Green Bagels

      America’s worst criminals everybody.

      • BadKitty904

        I swear to God, Larry, Moe, and Curly could crime better.

        • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

          Reminds me of the idiots that leave their driver’s licenses at the scene of the crime.

          • Anne Of Green Bagels

            cue Benny Hill yakety sax

      • phoenix00

        > America’s dumbest criminals everybody.

        FTFY

        • Anne Of Green Bagels

          thank you!

    • amrak63

      Hey, Trump Crime Family Lawyers!

      Tired of all that winning yet?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_asNhzXq72w

    • BadKitty904
    • theCryptofishist

      How’s he going to find a defense lawyer for htis?

      • SDGeoff3

        Sad. So very very sad.

      • Covfefe

        Court appointed. Like everyone else down on his luck.

    • The Wanderer

      As is normal for Lord Dampnut (6,5) and his crime family, none of them are capable of doing anything right. If they lived in Camden, NJ, they’d be the literal Gang Who Couldn’t Shoot Straight.

    • phoenix00

      Like father-in-law like son.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      And those were probably mob lawyers, like the rest of the donald defense team…keep your fingers and toes close, kushy…..

    • Msgr_MΩment

      He’s an [dis]honorary Trump, people!

    • calliecallie

      Really, Jared, this is NOT a time to stiff your lawyers. You may need them even more in the near future.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        To be fair, the whole 666 thing sank him financially years ago and it’s getting harder and harder to get kompromat money on the sly.

        That’s part of the risk of representing a deadbeat. Even if you are at the very tippy-tippy-top of the list of creditors, there may not be any assets left So cash up front or GTFO.

  • Rebel Scum with permit

    This is not complicated. Not complicated. Not complicated. When you work for the government nothing that you communicate on a government account is “private”. It may be secret or classified, but not private.
    Either whoever explained this to them was a buffoon, or they are all A Idiots, or they just didn’t think the rules would apply to them.
    Why not all of them?

    • phoenix00

      These are all idiots who think the rules don’t apply to them because Republican.

    • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

      Yeah. I assume that nothing I do on my work computer is private.

  • Way OT but need to vent:

    Just survived road rage and a weird kind of discrimination. I was following a old cheap minivan when we came to a light and the driver started motioning with fists out the window at me. After the left hand turn, he pulled to the bike lane with more middle fingers and fists…full-blown toxic masculinity
    I’m like, well, I did something and it’s time to get outta here so I passed with two wheels crossing into the middle lane only to have him accelerate and PLOW INTO ME.

    OK. Breathe.

    I pulled over and dailed 911. A city bus pulls up and stops next to me and blocks 2 lanes. I get out to show her I am on my cell with 911. And give her a smile to say “Got this…quit blocking the street” as ALL of PORTLAND traffic is now stopped. She pulls the bus over ahead of me and gets out and walks PAST me to the idiot in the minivan with steam pouring out of its smashed nose. I walk over to get her name for the 911 operator and the bus driver tells ME to get back into my car.

    Cops arrive. Get stories. Tell me the bus driver said I was “very aggressive”. I tell them I was born in Detroit and we can get that was after being run into. My wife arrives and we talk with the woman and man Tigard officers for 10 minutes to show them I am not the crazy one. They site the other driver. The cops admit, they usually want to blame the Porsche driver but see it was the crazy fuck in the Kia. My new Macan (3 months old, poor baby) is Macsmushed.

    • BosGrl

      Ugh. Sorry that happened to you. If they cited the other driver, you should be in the clear as far as insurance. Call your insurance company. Did you get a witness in your favor?

      • Thanks

        Not a soul. Hell, the bus driver didn’t see anything either, she was around the bend.

        • BosGrl

          Oh, good. Then she can’t be a witness. Get that police report as soon as you can. Make a claim with the Kia’s insurance, too.

        • Jamoche

          Get as many pix as you can. I won my case with the insurance company because I had pictures of the damage. Other driver said I hit her while backing out, and before the insurance saw the pix they were believing her, but then they agreed the only way to have damage right in the center of my bumper is if she hit me exactly the way I’d described.

        • Mehmeisterjr

          Go to the nearest emergency room right now and get a total X-ray evaluation, especially of your neck and of any other body part that might have been injured, even if you have no immediate symptoms.

          I didn’t do that 2.5 years ago when some idiot ran a red light by a mile and smacked into me.

          Despite the fact that the accident was recorded on camera and the other driver was adjudicated in court to be totally at fault, the insurance companies (his and mine) are still dicking me around when it comes to paying for the resulting paralysis and loss of trade-in value.

    • phoenix00

      Gawd.

      Yeah get witnesses and save the dashcam footage if you’ve got one.

      • Thinking of going Russian and buying a dashcam….

        You may too see me on youtube

        • BosGrl

          Insurance companies are asking about them now. Get pictures at the scene, pictures of the damage on both vehicles and any other damage (like guardrails, etc.) and I myself am thinking about getting a dash cam.

          They ask all these questions:
          Were you hurt?
          When and where did the accident take place? (date and time)
          What was the weather like?
          What was the traffic like?
          When did you first see the other vehicle?
          How many people were in your car (and the other car)?
          What street were you on (and cross streets) and what street was the other car on?
          Did the police arrive, which department, did anyone get cited, and did you get a report number?

          At least I’m learning something doing the boring typing job!

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            and fer chrissakes DON’T EVER sign anything without talking to a lawyer first.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      I’m glad you weren’t physically injured. Cars can be repaired or replaced. People not so much
      What a crazy ass. I really try not to piss people off because you never know who is armed and crazy these days, but sometimes it’s unavoidable.

      • I was actually thinking “Time to go” to my accelerator foot when I here the roar of engine and felt the crash…

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Here’s the thing, as I indicated earlier, “not injured” and “not being obviously injured in a way that declares itself immediately” are two different things.

        Tragic case in point: Natasha Richardson.

        The insurance companies love to exploit this difference to their advantage.

        The other day, I narrowly escaped being hit in traffic again. If I had been hit, my next move would have been to the emergency room.

        I’ve learned my lesson.

        • Rebel Scum with permit

          Good point. Even if you think you’re ok get checked out

          • Mehmeisterjr

            A further point: Your insurance company is not your insurance company.

            It will put its interests ahead of your own every time and if that means playing along with the other driver’s insurance company, that’s cool because that company is also not the other driver’s insurance company.

            They are both in business to collect premiums and minimize coverage.

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      I’m sorry to hear that happened to you. Do Portland bus drivers have authority to tell drivers in crashes what to do?

      • That was one of my questions and the TriMet driver said it was “HER JOB TO MAKE EVERYONE SAFE”

        and I was the aggressive one??

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        I thought that was weird too.

    • BadKitty904

      “That sucks” is poor compensation, but…”That REALLY sucks.

      Still, cars are replaceable, you’re not, so as long as you’re OK…

      • Thx. More or less as OK as I was before.

        You know, just generally nauseated…

    • Lord Jim

      So sorry. See a physician and make sure you’re ok.

    • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

      You poor guy and your car, oh no! You have my sympathy. (I love my car too.)
      Snuggle up with your wonderful wife.

  • Blackest Noobs

    it’s like they thought hey if we commit the crimes we do it on govt emails cuz reasons?!?

    and no one gets to know.

    ha! yeah…it…uh…it doesn’t work that way.

    • theCryptofishist

      Seriously, these people have trouble with the idea of democracy. I doubt if they’ve completed a civics class between them all.

      • Blackest Noobs

        it’s not just civics, they cannot somehow follow simple instructions.

  • OrG

    This is shit you could explain to a first grader.
    These people are REALLY STUPID.

    • BadKitty904

      It continuously astounds me.

      • Lord Jim

        It astounds me that people are just shrugging it off. Trump is so glaringly, OBVIOUSLY, corrupt, venal, stupid, and vulgar that the only way you can not see is by a positive act of cognitive suppression.

        • BadKitty904

          Thanks to the partisan pap and propaganda that has replaced American news services…

    • Anne Of Green Bagels

      only the best people.

    • Sunhead

      I disagree. They are just average and REALLY arrogant.
      “This has never happened to me before.”

      you could explain to a first grader.

      But if they then get away without punishment for the next 30 years, they just assume that whatever you said was a lie, or does not apply to them.
      Affluenza.

  • phoenix00

    https://twitter.com/McNabb_Laurie/status/942426164559269888

    Let me… try…. to find….. one drop… of…. sympathy……. NAAAAAH!

    • BadKitty904

      Good.

      • Lord Jim

        The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice, eh? :D

        • BadKitty904

          I have faith in the people…

    • theCryptofishist

      “Skint” is broke?

      • The Wanderer

        Yep.

      • TJ Barke

        I imagine it’s of the sentiment that “I’ve been taken for everything, even my skin”.

      • calliecallie

        I had to google it, but yes.

        • theCryptofishist

          I figure it’s related to “skinned” or to “skinflint” or both.

    • Roadstergal

      It’s a start.

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      Time to play the saddest song ever written on the world’s tiniest violin.

    • The Wanderer

      I hope he gets deported to France because his last name sounds vaguely foreign, and spends the winter sleeping on the streets of Calais while it gets sorted out.

      • phoenix00

        Trust me France doesn’t want him. They’re pro-EU.

        • The Wanderer

          Which is why I suggested it. (evil grin)

          • Covfefe

            But, until Britain actually exits, a British subject can enter any other EU member state by right.

          • The Wanderer

            Okay, fine, Zimbabwe then.

          • Toomush_Inferesistance

            I’m beginning to think that will never actually happen….

        • Lord Jim

          Maybe they’ll pelt him with stale croissants as they pass by.

          • John Thorstensen

            Or wave their prahvate parts at him …

          • phoenix00

            There’s a reason baguettes look vaguely like baseball bats……

      • SDGeoff3

        And Calais would not be a safe haven for him.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω
    • Anne Of Green Bagels

      so, being an insufferable fascist prick is bad for your social life? who knew?

      • phoenix00

        See: Robyn’s MRA posts every Saturday.

    • Raan

      Gee, it’s almost like being a racist, nationalist piece of shit has consequences or something.

      • phoenix00

        Don’t have to look far now, do we?

    • Courser_Resistance

      Aw, that’s the best news I’ve heard all day.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Also, Nigel — everybody hates you. Probably because you suck.

    • Blanche de Shambles

      I hope a mouse dies somewhere in his walls, and he spends the next month trying to figure out what the smell is, and wondering if it’s just him.

      I hope his all meat and booze diet gives him scurvy.

      I hope he gets audited like a common Harry Redknapp.

    • OneYieldRegular

      Maybe he can hook up with Ann Coulter?

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Farage endorsed Roy Moore. Fuck him.

      • SDGeoff3

        That’s nice. Did he raise munneyz for him, also as well?

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          Who knows.

  • BadKitty904

    OK, time to go wash off the aforementioned mango sauce. Back laterz!

    • phoenix00

      HEY you do your bad kitty thing and lick it!

  • Covfefe

    Am I the only one worried about howwe find a non-biased judge to hear these cases if they get to court? Obvs, any judge appointed by Obana, Clinton or Jimmy Carter is going to be biased against Donald and his minions. Equally obvs, any judge appointed by kin of Low Energy Jeb also is going to be biased. And I’m not too sure about Reagan judges because, you know, Reagan raised taxes.

    • Raan

      The Hague.

      • Courser_Resistance

        THIS^^^^

    • SayItWithWookies

      If Assmouth couldn’t get Gonzalo Curiel off the case because of his inherent anti-whte bias, then I doubt any of the juvenile ploys his team will attempt in this situation will fly.

    • RepubAnon

      No, no – why not have someone neutral make the decision – like, say… Vladimir Putin?

  • Kiri the Unicorn

    OT: If all the fasteners make it look like a Civil War submarine, you know Kiri built it.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/944bd784bf71ea9ad57abf23cbc47031f41cba8ea54a12b54990c86c9ed2ab33.jpg

    • Courser_Resistance

      I really admire nice woodwork! Nice job!

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        Thanks.

    • SDGeoff3

      It’s a lot prettier than my IKEA desk. But I put it together,so there’s that.
      (Beautiful work there, Kiri.)

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        What I’m making is a bunch of REALLY BIG display frames. The part that’s unfinished wood is an insert that’s secured into the frame with 18 of those recessed cap screws. It all lifts out to get access to the back of the frame. The things are huge and heavy, hence the aluminum hanging brackets.

        • SDGeoff3

          What is going into the frames on this project? If someone commissioned you for this, they certainly hired the right person.

          • Kiri the Unicorn

            It’s Hewlett-Packard. They want these things for displaying test images at their hardware development center here in Corvallis.

          • SDGeoff3

            Wow. If awesome were not such a worn out word, …
            I’ll try Deluxe Craftsmanship.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Dolphins down by 8 with about a minute left, recover onside kick, and Cutler throws his third interception of the day.
    Go Buffalo Wing-Heads!

    • The Wanderer

      Go Bills! Dear GOD, I hate Miami!

    • Msgr_MΩment
      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        Great week: Vikings won, Lions won, Packers just got eaten by Panthers! (hate those Packers, let them lose two more games and go home)…

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          Sucks for the Falcons. Both Carolina and New Orleans won, so we have to win tomorrow on MNF.

      • Courser_Resistance

        WTF is on their heads? It appears to be either a large hybrid squash or a poorly executed chicken leg. Neither of those things makes any sense, so it must be something else.

        • The Wanderer

          Buffalo chicken wings.

          • Courser_Resistance

            …if you say so.

        • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

          Shitgibbon tumors

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          Cheetos? Peanuts?

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            looked like squished circus peanuts to me.

          • Hiss

            Wasn’t there an asteroid that looked like that? But why wear it on one’s head?

        • John Thorstensen
        • Parakeetist

          Chicken wing. Buffalo chicken, see.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      And that is why Da Bears dumped him

      • OrG

        And why the Broncos dumped him on Da Bears.

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      Colin Kaepernick had a 90+ quarterback rating in 2016 playing for a 2-14 team, and this bozo (Cutler) still has a job.

      • OrG

        Wonder why that is?
        No I don’t.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        I got a Kaepernick jersey to wear at protests. NFL.com had them on clearance.

    • TundraGrifter

      And Colin K. can’t get a job in the NFL…

    • Bitter Scribe

      Jay’s gotta Jay.

      I thought the guy got way more than his share of abuse, off the field (and certainly on too) when he was in Chicago, but dear God, the guy could be frustrating. He would make a brilliant throw, shrugging off a brutal hit in the process, then throw a pick-six on the next play.

  • Left Coast Tom

    Hopefully nobody here’s flying Delta…power is out at ATL, all flights held.

    Power went out at Hartsfield-Jackson international Airport shortly after 1 p.m. Sunday and all flights are being held, officials say.

    The airport is currently holding all inbound flights until at least 4 p.m. and departure delays are averaging nearly an hour and a half, according to FlightAware.

    I’m a bit surprised major airports don’t, apparently, have backup power.

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      Shirley, it couldn’t be hacking.

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        Don’t call me…

        • amrak63

          Looks like the passengers picked the wrong day to quit smoking, drinking, taking amphetamines and/or sniffing glue.

          • theCryptofishist

            Well, I bet the Hari Krishnas are collecting more donations than usual.

      • SDGeoff3

        It could be Doris.

    • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

      They do. Backups failed too.

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        Shit! Glad I’m not flying in the next 2 weeks because today’s disruption will cause a passenger bulge just as holiday travel picks up.

        • Left Coast Tom

          It’s not just the passenger bulge if you’re flying Delta…ATL is a major Delta hub. Planes are stuck on the tarmac, held at their origin, or diverted to other airports. DL will have to reposition these planes just to be able to start draining that passenger bulge.

          • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

            True. A relative is a Delta employee. Work will not be fun for him for quite awhile.

      • amrak63

        Remember when the USA led the world in science, technology, and the competent use of same, up to and including PUTTING MEN ON THE FUCKING MOON?

        You know, back when liberals ran this country?

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          I remember when there were liberal Republicans (NYC mayor Lindsay) and conservative Democrats (Senator Sam Nunn),.

        • theCryptofishist

          And science was to be embraced, not buried.

  • Rick Hill

    Bets that the trump crew is so stoopid, they thought they were safe because they deleted emails and then used a Clorox wipe to clean their pc?

    Note to self: check to see if Hillary is connected to any sites giving life hacks.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Acid wash libel!

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Bannon has a whole bathtub of acid, in case Trump needs some.

        • theCryptofishist

          I thought a jacuzzi would hold more than a bathtub…

    • Jamoche

      There’s got to be a Joe Biden meme to cover this.

      • Raan

        “Then you just rub the wipe all over it, and you’re golden. Bye.”
        “Who were you talking to?”
        “Donnie.”
        “About?”
        “…”
        “Joe.”
        “He wanted to know how to wipe e-mails from his computer.”

        • Saxo the Grammarian

          He didn’t tell Turnip about applying White-Out to computer screens to redact emails?

          • Raan

            Joe told him Mueller would do it for him.

      • SDGeoff3

        I’d take a Joe Biden presidency over that meme any day.

        • theCryptofishist

          Heck, I’d take a Joe Biden meme presidency over whatever the fuck it is we got, any day.

          • SDGeoff3

            Yes!

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    our local paper is part of USA Today network, saw (different, but related) story headline just now at corner store, but haven’t read it yet:

    ‘Mass disaster’ grows at the U.S.-Mexico border, but Washington doesn’t seem to care

    But an investigation by the USA TODAY NETWORK has found many migrant deaths are never accounted for — including when bodies are discovered by sheriff’s deputies, police, ranchers, hikers and humanitarian groups.

    Illegal crossings along the southwestern border have claimed 7,209 lives over the past 20 years, according to official Border Patrol statistics, but the actual number is far higher.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      holy shit: In three of those states, the USA TODAY NETWORK found anywhere from 25 percent to nearly 300 percent more migrant deaths over five years.

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        That’s horrible.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          it gets worse:

          In Brooks County, Texas, the bodies of unidentified border crossers were, until a few years ago,buried in mass graves.

          (and while the research is commendable, the story is terrible)

          • Lord Jim

            Damn. Just…damn.

      • Lord Jim

        But it’s Messicans who are dangerous to tighty-white citizens, eh? :/

    • Dept. of Space Tacos
    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      Earlier this week, a commentor told me that people in her town near the border were arrested for leaving water out in the desert for illegal immigrants. It made me feel sick. They would rather have their dead bodies strewn all over the desert than let them live here.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        that was probably Punk In Drublic, he had mentioned they started doing that out his way and he has a friend who volunteers for migrant services stuff.

      • HazooToo

        I don’t understand how you can get arrested for not wanting someone to die

        • OrG

          Hey,some places giving away free food is illegal.

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            Yep, Georgia is one but people still hand out sandwiches to the homeless in the parks in Atlanta.

        • Transgender Fetus McGoo

          Welcome to America. Here’s a very recent UN report on how our war on the poor is going. Don’t read it near breakable objects. http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=22533&LangID=E

      • RobKanC

        Jesus would have done the exact same thing.

      • Courser_Resistance

        I’ve heard of those Good Samaritans being threatened out in the desert as well.

    • theCryptofishist

      Of course the number is higher. They don’t find everyone who crosses the border and lives. They aren’t going to find everyone who crosses the border and dies. I wonder how long the bodies last out there…

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        slightly different issue, this is about how the numbers that are reported don’t include the number found, i.e. for whatever fucking reasons, suspected dead border immigrants aren’t counted separately or at all in some cases.

      • SDGeoff3

        That depends upon the wildlife population and the weather.
        Nice, huh?

    • Courser_Resistance

      We’ve known it out here in the Western states all along. There’s actually a constant war going on down there. A bunch of 3%-ers from CO and surrounding states go down to patrol the borders. Sometimes they get along with/cooperate with BP, sometimes they don’t.

      Then there are the folks who work feverishly, particularly in the summer to leave caches of water, food and sometimes clothing along migration routes. Without those water caches migrants are at high risk of dying of dehydration in the hot months and sometimes even in the cooler ones. Immigrants can’t carry much.

      The 3%ers track these Good Samaritan and go behind them, destroying the cashes. They’re absolutely fine with people dying in the desert – it saves them a bullet. These groups have confronted the Good Samaritans. Not sure if they threatened them or not.

      I can’t remember where I read all this shit. I think it may have been the Daily Beast a few years back.

      I have no doubt that the 3%-ers have indiscriminately killed Mexicans who’ve crossed the border. Maybe even in groups. But it’s unbelievably vast out there and it’d be hard to find mass graves without a concentrated satellite scan for disturbed soils.

      • theCryptofishist

        I keep coming back to this, but my father (& family) were essentially refugees in the late 30s when they entered this country, legally. My grandfather was a metallurgist, nice portable skill. If someone’s desperate enough to try and cross the border under those circumstances, you can bet that what they are running from must be horrible.
        As a side thing, I think that trying to stop migration is a hopeless battle, but the sheer horror of our being willing to kill migrants by negligence incenses me.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Remember back when the Obama and civil service transition teams were trying to get the Trumpites to be oriented about the transition? Guys, this was probably somewhere in that handbook that you didn’t read.

    • Raan

      This is like falling asleep in class and not understanding anything on the final, then making the stupid decision to wing it.

      I have done half of this.

      • Bub, the cynical zombie

        And then complaining about how unfairly you have been treated.

        • Raan

          Seriously, who schedules an Algebra II class at 8:40 in the morning?

          Oh, you mean the thing Trump does about every failing.

          • dlemex

            Probably the same as the freshman that thought taking Chem, being taught by the department chairman, would be a good idea at 8:15. If you major wasn’t chem he had no use for you which didn’t help.

          • John Thorstensen

            Jeez. That’s malpractice. I teach physics, and I don’t care if a student is a major or not — they’re in it to learn, and I’m in it to teach, so let’s get this party started!

          • theCryptofishist

            I like to think that that’s the attitude that got my father high marks in student reviews.

          • dlemex

            Yeah he actually had a rep as a tough professor but freshmen really didn’t know that when signing up for classes. The school was really focused on mining and petrochemical so he probably thought he was doing everyone a great service. I was enrolled in a new major called computer science. Yea… oldz. If we had humanities my major would have been consider lower than those by the whole school.

          • H0mer0

            gosh, what bet did he lose to get that assignment?

          • rocktonsam

            Or econ 8 am on mondays…

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            of my fucking 8 am class this semester, ON SATURDAY!

          • Courser_Resistance

            That’s cruel and unusual, man…

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            IKR? I’m literally stunned I got an A. (did I tell ya I got an A, did I did I?)
            ; p

          • Courser_Resistance

            You Rock, Space-man! Well done, you!

          • SDGeoff3

            We had sight singing and ear training at 8am Saturdays, freshman year of music school. Pure, unadulterated torture and the room reeked of booze breath.

          • Courser_Resistance

            Oh, fuck me, that was the goddamn bane of my freshmen year at CU. Econ at 8 AM MWF in an ancient lecture hall cleeeeaaaaar on the other side of campus. Good times.

          • puredog

            Which “CU,” besides Next Tuesday?

          • theCryptofishist

            Connecticut? Colorado? Copper?

          • Courser_Resistance

            University of Colorado, Boulder. Started at the tender age of 17…

          • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

            I C what U did there

      • Rebel Scum with permit

        Or like living in military housing and complaining when the MPs search without a warrant.

        • Mehmeisterjr

          Or, like a couple of local lovebirds did, fucking on a public beach in front of everyone, including children.

          They declined a plea deal on a two-pronged basis (pardon the pun) arguing pro se, if I remember correctly:

          1. So what?

          2. So what that he was on probation for a prior felony?

          It didn’t work too well.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      The thing is, Giuliani’s boy was clearly going to illegally destroy public records, and he really couldn’t put that in writing. Why they left it in the hands of someone outside the conspiracy eludes me, but incompetence is usually Trump’s razor.

      • Paperless Tiger

        Doesn’t sound like he was outside it. I bet there are more that were in on it too. Priebus comes to mind. He left the RNC for Trump, so that could be the master link to the GOP.

        • Carpe Vagenda

          No, he wasn’t, but he died unexpectedly and they left a career huy in charge.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Back when I worked for government, every time the computer booted up a statement would come on the screen saying anything on that computer or sent from that computer was property of the government. If these bozos even saw anything like that I doubt they paid attention.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Assumes basic literacy.

  • amrak63
  • IdiokraticKulturKommissar
    • HazooToo

      Is this considered weird? I honestly have no idea what’s going on anymore.

      • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump

        My guess–the end is near and he has no more fucks left to give.

        • HazooToo

          I can’t spare a single square of hope that that’s the case. Not even one ply.

        • natoslug

          Too bad he couldn’t have had no more fucks to give before his last vote on this mess.

      • Courser_Resistance

        He has aggressive brain cancer. I suspect he’s going into hospice over the holidays. He won’t be back.

        • Tetman Callis

          That was my first thought at this news, too.

        • HazooToo

          I’m sorry for his family’s loss. At least they’ll have some time with him.

    • The Wanderer

      Good. Let him rest and convalesce.

    • therblig

      weighing the nation’s interest against a single person’s, i’m forced to say this is a good thing. not that it really matters since mcturtle bought off the rest of the “principled” gop senators.

  • Begin Anew Day

    I am a file clerk in a government office. From day one they train one thing into you; you do not own that computer, you use it to get work done and you have no expectation of privacy concerning what you are looking at on that computer. Behave Yourself!

    Porn sites get people in trouble. They always get in trouble because somehow, gun machining and blacksmithing sites don’t produce the instant response porn does and so people think “hey! no one’s watching! let’s cruise some porn too.” About ten minutes later SOMEONE is cutting their feed and the next day their supervisor needs to do some counseling.

    Anyone trying to do actual CRIME on a government computer is not only going to get some counseling, they are also going to be talking to the FBI. PERIOD.

    (BTW you are also FIRED!)

    • Mehmeisterjr

      I thought there was an exemption for Russian kompromat agents and pedophiles. (No I didn’t.)

      • Begin Anew Day

        ;>))

    • harryr

      Precisely. I am sure you have also been told as we were, again on Day 1, that you do not own that your.name@gov email account either, and that anything going out under it is considered a departmental statement. Also that they will look through it whenever they want and anything inappropriate will also lead to disciplinary action.

      • Begin Anew Day

        Yeah, they totally changed that computer from a thrill ride to a tool.

    • tza

      Yep. I remember when Dad first got a shiny work laptop when I was a kid and it was explained it was Very Much Not like the family desktop. Dad did use it for personal stuff for like three days once years and years later (my laptop got screwed with and needed three days to fix, he gave me his personal one and defaulted to his work one) but all he really used it for was reading the news and doing his usual work so it was cool with the govt.

  • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

    I had signed up for the protest alert some time ago, but this week, I tweeted it out to my 2000+ followers on FB and my 400 or so friends on FB. When we had the March for Women in Atlanta, I led a group of 5, which also included @nightmoth. I expect to see a lot of familiar faces, if we are called on to march after the Mueller firing, if it happens.

  • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

    The Last Jedi does boffo for beleaguered box offices.

    With an estimated $220 million, Star Wars: The Last Jedi delivered the second largest opening weekend ever behind only Star Wars: The Force Awakens, which debuted with $247.9 million back in 2015.

    • Duke

      And it’s awesome!!!1!!!!11!!!

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        Mark Hamill has all the best snark!…

    • bupkus231

      Is the weekend even done yet, for that count?

  • Duke

    “Judge” Jeannie? Such drivel. It’s amazing that it can be presented as news or, even, opinion and not farce.

    Trump is -20% in approvals.

  • rocktonsam

    Wait. How did djt even type those emails with such small hands?
    How was he able to impregnate at least 3 women with a ….. nevermind

  • Zonath

    So potentially privileged emails got handed over to Mueller’s investigation due to what boils down to sheer incompetence by the “administration”, and somehow they’re trying to paint this as Mueller’s fault? Why do these idiots seem to think their audience is made up solely of people whose IQ is at least one standard deviation south of average?

    Oh right, Fox News…

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Because they the whole citizenry is like their audience. We’re not.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      somebody linked to a twitter thread that said, privilege only applies to using the info (the emails) in court, implying, IMHO they can totally be received by investigators just not used as evidence…can anybody confirm?

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        Hence the interviews, to catch them in the lies and use it against them.

      • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump

        No. There is no privilege. The emails were legally obtained and can be used as evidence.

        I am not a lawyer but everything I’ve read has said this.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          right, but assuming there WAS an applicable privilege…

          • bupkus231

            A hypothetical? No one wants to answer a hypothetical.

            IANAL – but this assertion by Rump’s lawyers seems as empty as Don Jr.’s assertion that “attorney-client privilege” applied for conversations between himself an his father, because there was an attorney in the room ( not saying whom the attorney represented, either ).

            But I do think that other evidence, obtained via usage of inadmissable evidence, might be dismissed as well. so, there’s that.

            I said earlier that I thought the publicizing of Rump’s attorney’s claims was not intended to be used in court – it was solely to sway his base – and leave those of us who are not trained lawyers unsure.

          • shivaskeeper

            Of course this dissertation is empty. If it had any merit they would have filed it in court, not gone crying to Congress.

            FFS at least one of the letters was from a pro-Trump PAC.

          • Saw I ANAL and kinda blanked on the rest of it…

    • rocktonsam

      But David Brooks said foxnewz viewers support has fell to less than 50 percent for the preznit.
      That could be interesting to watch if true. If only it was true.

      • SDGeoff3

        And then, it’s David Brooks.

    • Bemused

      I don’t understand how one could have a privileged email if there is no expectation of privacy. Every single email I send from my work email is subject to being examined by my employer. My understand is that government email addresses are similar.

      • theCryptofishist

        Oh, I get a warning screen every time I turn on my computer, and I’m executive branch.

      • Rebel Scum with permit

        They are. They may be classified, or secret, but there you’d have to show a public interest. Catty remarks about the bosses bald spot or cankles aren’t protected.

    • theCryptofishist

      Reality teevee also, too?

    • bupkus231

      “Why do these idiots seem to think their audience is made up solely of people whose IQ is at least one standard deviation south of average?”

      “I love the poorly educated” ( the rest of this spiel – which was solely based on the results of the Nevada caucuses – is nothing but more Rump bullshit )

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpdt7omPoa0

    • shivaskeeper

      What privilege would apply? Executive privilege applies to the Executive. That was not him. Possibly some direct communications to or from him or some of his lackeys to Pres. Obama could be considered privileged. But Obama would be the one to invoke that as he was the Executive.

      I doubt any of them would be willing to answer that question though.

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    The Right Wing Mediasphere is laying the groundwork so Trump can justify fire Mullier. They are delibrately muddling the waters so it seems that a rogue brnach of the Government is out to get poor lil Donny. Everyone should prepare yourself, its only going to get worse and worse. The more doomed Trump seems the more of a frenzy they will be whipped up. Trump knew what he was doing when he played the Fake News Card. We are in for scary times.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      KEEP TALKING LOUD!….

      • SDGeoff3

        A. M. E. N. ! ! ! 1 !

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω
      • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

        Signed up!

      • theCryptofishist

        So, anyone planning on the El Cerrito Daiso one? Because, adding a Wonkette meet up to the protest only makes it better.

      • Transgender Fetus McGoo

        I’m not signing up until I go through their privacy policies. The last thing I need is to be publicly identified as an activist, that sort of thing wouldn’t end well for me.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          I’ll never put my name on something unless I’m 100% comfortable. Caveat Emptor …

      • bupkus231

        I looked into it – and there’s one nearby ( 20 minute drive away ). I did not RSVP – but I suspect that should this happen I’ll be there…

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Here’s the thing though. Trump the reality Teevee Star, has made himself the star of an exciting new reality Teevee show. The ratings are yuuuge and a big chunk of America wants to see how it ends. They want to see what Mueller has.

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      trump probably thinks his lawyers are making legal arguments for him and believes what he is seeing on Fox. He will rage-splutter when the shit hits the fan.

    • bbayliss
      • theCryptofishist

        Making a list, checking it for 22 seconds, or when they get bored, which ever is first?

    • Begin Anew Day

      “Fear is useless…”

      That is a quotation of Jesus. That guy supposedly did not have a problem with beating the money changers out of the temple.

  • Paperless Tiger

    How come Judge Jeanine says Mueller is prosecuting Trump? Don’t get ahead of yourself, you sexy thang.

    • John Thorstensen

      At 119 mph, it’s hard NOT to get ahead of yourself.

      • Rebel Scum with permit

        Think I owe you a coke

        • John Thorstensen

          Thanks — It’s not half bad with enough rum!

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Investigation =prosecution. We know her style is pedal to tha metal.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      sexy thing

      You’re half right.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    New poll reveals Americans want a Democrat-controlled Congress by highest margin since 2008

    The new poll could be bad news as Republicans gear up for the 2018 midterm elections, where Democrats stand to win back majorities in both chambers of Congress. According to the Wall Street Journal, responses to the poll traditionally have only translated into electoral gains for a party when there’s a double-digit margin — as there now is.

    • OutOfOrbit

      every day of mueller silence continues my fear of the tRumpsterfire doing something horribly desperate

    • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump

      So the Democrats will somehow manage to fuck it up again.

      • amrak63

        I hope you’re wrong, but I fear you’re right.

    • John Thorstensen

      Suppose you ordinarily have 600k Democratic votes and 400k Republican votes. To Gerrymander a Republican majority, you pack lots of Demo votes into one district. But there are still people out there in the “safe” Republican districts who can be persuaded to vote Democratic, and because you’ve spread your Republican votes over more (‘safe’) districts the margins in those districts are necessarily smaller than they might be.

      Now imagine (cue John Lennon) a wave election in which people are REALLY PISSED at the Republicans. The smaller margins in your ‘safe’ districts come back to bite you really bad.

      We can all hope.

      • SisterArtemis

        We can all hope

        I certainly am.

  • Alternative Dog

    This is probably shopped but it is clever:

    https://twitter.com/YMBBastepaway/status/940202579350388741

    • SDGeoff3

      If you have been drinking…anyway, maybe don’t check out the comments.

    • John Thorstensen

      It’s the Anglicans, so it probably isn’t.

      Turns out there are all these “churches” out there that aren’t full of raving racist fundamentalist wingnuts! Who knew?

      • theCryptofishist

        Isn’t there some rule of thumb that essentially says that the ones making the loud noise are no where near the majority?

      • Ms.Moon

        I am Anglican we are always in trouble because we let women be clergy (gasp even Bishops) gays be clergy (gasp even Bishops) and doing the actual work of being Christian like looking after the needy (I spent an entire Saturday baking bread during a fundraiser for hurricane victims) and Episcopal Charities have had boots on the ground in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands since the first major hurricane came through. The Anglican community is very much into doing Christianity rather than saying we are Christian.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance
    • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

      It looks legit to me. If it was a Church Sign Generator, or ‘shopped, the letters would be more evenly spaced and the I in “family” wouldn’t be crooked.

  • Joe Beese

    As y’all are Star Warring this weekend, tip a hat to The Maestro, John Williams – whose contribution to the cultural icon is on par with Lucas’s himself. His work on Last Jedi shows him at age 85 with his magnificent powers undiminished.

    • therblig

      he gets a mulligan on the cantina song and that atrocity in jabba’s lair.

    • MANGO CRIMES

      I seen the Star Wars and it is pretty frigging good.

      Luke is a dick, and it is the best.

      • SisterArtemis

        When he tosses that light saber over his shoulder…. I knew it was gonna be good. Luke has redefined “curmudgeon.”

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        I have seen it also too, and was very happy with it, except for one scene and one giant plot hole… and I can forgive even those.

        • MANGO CRIMES

          which scene, if you don’t mind me asking? you can wrap it in <spoiler>…</spoiler> tags if unable to say without spoilers.

          • SisterArtemis

            YES
            and also too, how did you do the spoiler tags without it turning into spoiler formatting?

          • MANGO CRIMES

            I use HTML character entities – &lt; and &gt; (lt = less than, gt = greater than)

          • sgt. jmk of the résistance

            It was the scene in which Leia (cough cough) returned to the ship.

            Thought it was kind of cheesy and there were better ways to handle it.

          • MANGO CRIMES

            Oh right yeah, can’t argue with that.

    • JJ O’Shaughnessy

      From all I’ve heard of the making of star wars and from the 3 atrocities that he had total creative control over, Lucas’s contribution to Star wars was sitting in a corner sulking while everyone else untangled his madness. Han Solo should have been a Frog, dammit!

      • Parakeetist

        Wha

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Beg pardon?

  • memzilla Ω

    Just a reminder that (autoplay linky) two of Dolt 45’s lawyers are meeting with Mueller this Tuesday “to find out where the Trump-Russia investigation is heading and if it will continue…”

    Yes, where IS Mueller’s investigation heading? Florence ADX? USP Leavenworth? FCI Cumberland?

    • puredog

      “So, uh, where yew goin’ with this, Bobby?”
      “We’ll see what happens. I’ll let you know in a couple of weeks.”

    • Werewolf

      Mar-A-Gitmo?

    • John Thorstensen

      Yeah, and he’s going to tell them everything, I’m sure.

      Fools or morons? We report, you decide!

  • amrak63

    And now for something completely useless:

    http://www.fallingfalling.com/

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      For those of you who began drink early, should skip this one.

  • Mike Minden

    How can E-Mails by government officials on a government (PUBLIC) owned server be considered “privileged” or “private”?

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      assuming he was actually in office, unlike here, maybe national security, executive privilege, legal privilege.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos
    • Rebel Scum with permit

      We would like to see you in A Very Special Place, Donald.

    • therblig

      nixon was at least 100 times smarter than trumpy and he still got caught. what can a dotard do?

      • bbayliss

        Have the support of the 115th congress?

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          Those assholes know they’re going down in 2018, so who knows what shit they will pull to stay in power?

    • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

      And of course he’s wearing one of those stupid hats.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        come now, he’s only trying to create brand awareness to drive revenue and therefore create profits!

    • Msgr_MΩment

      “A very special place”?!

      Has anybody told him that he doesn’t own it?

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        im pretty sure that’s more reflexive lying – word was he hated the rustic nature of hte place.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      p.s. looks like even on the way out as a national disgrace, nixon had a bigger crowd than Trump.

      • Institute For Applied Despair

        Well, you know what they say- give the people what they want and they’ll show up.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      He’s wearing his stupid hat! What a fuckface!

  • WannabeTraveler

    I don’t think the right wing media has thought this through. (like they can think lol) But what does all this discrediting the FBI in the media do to jury trials going on right now with FBI agents giving testimony? What do they do when bank robbers, rapists and terrorist walk free because Fox News has convinced jurors FBI agents are biased and unprofessional. And what the hell happen to “The Law and Order Candidate” ?? The damage they are doing will not be repairable in a generation, all for a con artist that is stealing from Americans.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      They’re only biased when it comes to Trump, the rest of the time they’re patriotic law enforcement officers.

      • WannabeTraveler

        Of course they are, its the perception that moron is promoting. Its so sad to watch.

    • Tetman Callis

      You might be surprised how thoughtful and serious jurors can be. I know I sometimes am.

      • John Thorstensen

        Those two black dots in your avatar between yellow and orange are the sodium D lines, 5889 and 5986 Angstroms.

        “Mad? Yes, of course I’m mad!! But I have TENURE!!”

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    These idiots make the gang that couldn’t shoot straight look like criminal masterminds. Luckily they have Pravda Fox News to explain to them how a Soviet style oligarchy is in their best interests. Derp.

  • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump

    I know I keep repeating this info, but I just cannot stop.

    HAHAHAHAHA

    https://twitter.com/20committee/status/942406554933977088

    • OutOfOrbit

      they also believe they are above the law, even now

  • Fartknocker

    An interesting read explaining why it’s not easy for Cheeto Mussolini to fire Mr. Mueller.
    https://www.citizensforethics.org/trump-cant-easily-remove-mueller-happens-tries/

  • YouInDangerGirl!

    Trump gonna Trump. For years he’s gotten out of legal trouble by making spurious arguments and exhausting his adversary’s finances and morale. He’s done it for so long and so successfully that it’s become his moral universe. He fails to realize, however, that this time he’s not fucking over some poor contractor or intimidating a bank exec who doesn’t want to jeopardize a lucrative relationship; all he has now is a dwindling base, some craven acolytes who will turn on him in a second, and Vladimir fucking Putin. He’s not getting out of this one. He’s woefully outclassed.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      His approval rating has actually gone up 3 points this month. I think it’s because morons are giving him credit for the booming economy. He’s still the most unpopular president in modern times.

      I have a bad feeling that Trump’s going to start a war with Iran because he thinks it will improve his popularity. Good luck with t hast, Dotard.

  • ibwilliamsi

    Donny don’t own that shit – just the stink that comes out of it.

  • clubseal

    I just saw Pat Buchanan’s opinion piece on this topic this week and he may have hit peak shrillness. It contains the phrase “deep state-media conspiracy,” so you know it’s good.

    • SDGeoff3

      I would like to see a discussion between Pat Buchanan and Bette Midler.

      • amrak63

        I would like to see Bette Midler do something to Pat Buchanan–with votes, of course.

        • SDGeoff3

          I’ll bring my ballot to the polls in a cast iron 12″ skillet.

      • clubseal

        I’d like to see some sort of explanation as to how the old racist shit is still alive.

        • amrak63

          His pact with Satan?

          • clubseal

            “There were missiles, and something definitely got packed.”

        • Ellie

          He has a picture in his playroom.

    • John Thorstensen

      “Bat Puchanan, who was a Speeding Leechwriter for Nesident Prixon.” as the Capitol Steps put it.

      Whatever he said, it was undoubtedly better in the original German. [We need Molly Ivins more than ever. Please, Molly, rise from the dead right now!]

  • WotsAllThisThen

    Then I told the cop, even if you search my car and find my drugs you still can’t arrest me because that’s illegal search and seizure! I know my rights, man!

    • Timothy Watson

      Actually, you would have a better argument than Trump’s, especially after Arizona v. Gant (2009).

  • memzilla Ω
    • ZangoCrudmonger

      Tell puppy it was the neighbors idea.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
    • Msgr_MΩment

      That there is loony.

      • Hey! I resemble that remark!

        • Msgr_MΩment

          I still maintain that the $2 coin should be called a Doublooney.

          • Raan

            I support your idea and will come up to march in Canada’s winter if needed.

          • I believe the vernacular is “twoonie”

      • Edith Prickly

        Coming from a country that calls its dollar a loonie, I fully support this change.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      And if I lived there, there would be 52,001 signatures on that petition.

  • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

    NFL investigating Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson amidst allegations of sexual harassment, racist slurs.

    He had a special interest in female grooming, they say. He would notice when their nails were not up to his standards, and pay for them to get manicures. Multiple female employees recalled to SI that Richardson asked them if he could personally shave their legs.

    • SisterArtemis

      Ewwww….

      • Ellie

        My feelings, exactly.

      • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

        The article mentions he was fond of “the seatbelt maneuver” – he would insist when driving with female employees that he had to buckle their seatbelt, then reach across their breasts to grab the belt and bring it back.

        • The Rick

          Yeah he likes to shave woman’s legs. The creep factor is high enough we don’t need more. Or Moore? Not sure which is correct anymore.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          Sounds like a patented Frank Costanza move, to me.

    • The Rick

      Shaving legs? Weird fetich but I guess it’s better than shaving cats.

      • theCryptofishist

        Are you willing to say that he never offered to go Brazilian?

        • The Rick

          Only when pegging.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Extra points if he then lifted his pants cuff to show what a good job he does.

  • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

    He don’t know Mueller very well, do he…
    https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/942211990298210304

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Like the way he leaked the fact that he’s been sitting on all these emails?

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Unlike Trump, Mueller knows that loose lips sink ships.

    • Raan

      How do you think he got those indictments?

    • John Thorstensen

      What does he think, Mueller’s team leaks like a common Trump White House?

    • The way Mueller leaks is by unsealing the indictment.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Idjit says wut?

  • WomanInThePersistence
  • Paperless Tiger

    Maybe this would resonate if the Donald hadn’t already admitted to obstruction of justice twice like a nitwit. As it is, if they can’t nail his stupid ass, we really are gonna think something’s up.

    • The Rick

      Is him going away for obstruction really what you want? I’m cooking popcorn for felonies that I don’t know the legal terms for.

      • Kryptonian Canis

        Impeach for obstruction of justice, prosecute for money laundering and conspiracy.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          Works for me

      • Ms.Moon

        Guillotines for all conspirators.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    No collusion, no collusion, you’re the collusion!
    https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/942514265432494080?s=17

    • Institute For Applied Despair

      He has to wear that cap to remind himself of where he lives.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      “There’s no collusion. There’s no collusion whatsoever. There probably was some conspiracy to commit treason … but no collusion.”

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      So why is he acting guilty as fuck?

    • TJ Barke

      “Only attempted collusion, by my son, that I told to attempt to collude.”

  • Red Bird

    Wakey wakey, 5$F. Trump may be left with no other option than to throw himself under the bus.

    • The Rick

      He still has JR, Ivanka, Jared, Bannon, Mulvaney, Conway, and Sanders to go under the bus first.

      • theCryptofishist

        And Eric.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          Is Eric the smart one?

          AND WHAT ABOUT TIFFANY?

          • theCryptofishist

            If he can remember her long enough to throw her under the bus, while he’s panicked, they yes, Tiffany, also, too.

          • Christopher Story

            I know there’s another one, what was her name, or is it another boy? No, I’m pretty sure that’s Melania’s…

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            she just started georgetown law, so argueably the smartest of all family and staff.

    • Daniel

      …no. He will never, ever do that.
      There’s a very high chance he’ll throw his closest confidants, most vocal and loyal supporters and his children under the bus to save himself.

      My hope is that it doesn’t.

      • BadKitty904

        I agree. Everything he’s ever done in his entire life makes me think he’s incapable of doing that. Just as Nero refused to believe that the people didn’t love him even as the assassins entered the room…

    • Paperless Tiger

      If I saw that guy in the mirror I wouldn’t recognize him.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    OT: But just came back from Episode VIII. No Lando, No Lando, Billy Dee is the Lando

    • The Rick

      Was it good?

      • Everrett Fanuelli

        It was good.

      • Duke

        Yes.

        Go to Tosche Station. Get the power convertors.

    • TJ Barke

      Oh shit! Lando is in it?

      • Everrett Fanuelli

        No Lando, No Lando

    • Duke

      You’re the Lando.

    • BMW

      Really hoping he’s in the next one.

  • Reximus
  • BMW

    So…their argument is that they shouldn’t have to turn over emails from a non-government account to the FBI?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/40467bedea5a1c74ff9b6ef840c69f1210a604b1923e26fbb63c1f13e0e1628c.gif

    They really want to live by their own fucking rules, don’t they?

  • WomanInThePersistence

    And now it’s time for an ROUS.

    https://youtu.be/MRqIY5YxIKo

    • SisterArtemis

      I was wondering what time of day it was…

      • WomanInThePersistence

        I called in. And it’s lemon tea o’clock.

        • SisterArtemis

          OMG I’m all off kilter – I thought it was coffee-with-cream o’clock
          *runs to kitchen*

  • SKruetheratbassedarDs

    I must have missed my Constitutional Law class the day they covered the Right to lie under oath with impunity to law enforcement investigators . . . Curse you, Professor!!!

    • Lefty Wright

      Jeff Sessions can fill you in. He kept his notes.

  • The Rick

    Faux wans a coup. Riots on the streets is exactly what being tough on crime is all about.

    • Daniel

      Faux wants a coup because it’s chiefly a forum for authoritarians and bullies. Individual Fox presenters want a coup because they want to prove their own persecution fantasies (Fox and Friends), prove their own toughness by facing down hails of bullets- in their stories at least (Hannity), or because they know they will face literally no negative consequences for inciting mass violence when they do (Pirro, Watters).

      • suziq

        Plus, good ratings.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    McCain is not making it back to DC TO VOTE on tax bill, so if Collins and Corner had spines, the middle class wouldn’t be on the hook for another $1.5 trillion dollars that’s getting shoveled up to the billionaires.

    • The Rick

      Sorry bro I love McCain. All I can do is wish him the best. It’s not popular but he is a legend.

      • Daniel

        How so?

        • The Rick

          “McCain retired from the Navy on April 1, 1981, as a captain. … His numerous military decorations and awards include the Silver Star Medal, two Legion of Merits, Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Star Medals, two Purple Heart Medals, two Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medals, and Prisoner of War Medal.”

          Sorry but vets like me like this.

          • shivaskeeper

            As a vet and Army retiree, I will defend his service record. No swiftboating in my presence. However, almost nothing he has done since being in Congress is worthy of the respect that should be his. He has sold out just every value that should have been burned into him by service. For decades he has damn near been the poster child for self above service, for party above nation.

            He gets no respect for that at all.

          • The Rick

            Sorry but respect isn’t a partisan thing to me. Get well soon John!

          • The Rick

            This feels less like a conversation and more like a conversion. Let’s please agree to disagree.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Honey, people don’t get well from a glioblastoma tumor. They just dont.

          • The Rick

            You don’t say. Cancer is fatal? When did that happen?

          • WomanInThePersistence

            I had a much beloved boss die from this. Her family was devastated. She died four months after her diagnosis. Oddly, I don’t feel like snarking.

          • The Rick
          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            maybe Biden should get the credit for that?

            “As McCain dabbed her eyes, the former vice-president – whose own son Beau died of the same form of malignant brain cancer against which John McCain is struggling – spoke soothingly, held McCain’s hand and reminded her of her father’s courage in war and public service.

          • The Rick

            Biden gets credit for sure.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Maybe we can agree that all families dealing with this should have access to affordable health care?

          • The Rick

            Repeating myself but I remember McCain saving the ACA.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            And the so-called tax cuts? Which will rip up the social security net?

          • The Rick

            Yeah it sucks to be poor. Now it just sucks a little more.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Honestly, I have assumed you are a decent person. But really? Kicking poor people when they are down is how you roll?

          • The Rick

            Nope I feel bad but in the end I got to live with me.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            As you wish. If you are the kind of person who feels okey-dokey with this, then I misread you.

          • The Rick

            I’m cool with my family business making more money. If it makes you feel more righteous in being right we aren’t raising salaries.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            aaaand, point re: tax cuts proven.

          • The Rick

            You are totally right but $$$

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            you are a republican!

            you know what though, you have EARNED my respect by being honest about it.

            No snark.

          • The Rick

            Thanks, but I voted for Hillary.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            I wish you nothing but happiness. And I hope you find peace with your own conscious.

          • The Rick

            I wish you good fortune in the wars to come. :)

          • weighmaster

            I would happily pay an extra 3% if it meant that everyone could have the same level and quality of health care that my taxes provide to Sen. McCain.

          • shivaskeeper

            Again his service is not in dispute. But it in no way gives him carte blanche for everything he does after his service is up. Respect has to be earned and re-earned every single day.

            What has he done in Congress that is worthy of respect in the last 10 years? 20? That is not partisan at all. What he done more than say that something is “concerning” for him and then roll right on over and follow along with the party line vote? Unless he was taking personal spite out on someone like he did with McTurttle and the last ACA vote.

          • The Rick

            He is still serving to this day.

          • shivaskeeper

            In a way that shows he is not worthy of my respect, that he has not retained any of the values he had. Right now, a former warrior for this country is more than willing to sell out every single one of his constituents, and more. for a little more personal gain. Fuck that. That has nothing to do with any of the values I learned and believe in from my time in service. That’s the point.

          • John Thorstensen

            I understand and sympathize with the wish that he get well, but given the diagnosis, he is almost certainly dying.

          • The Rick

            Yep

          • Lefty Wright

            My understanding is that he was a mediocre pilot at best. His main claim to fame was being a POW for something like six years. While I realize this was a harrowing experience, he had little choice but to endure. That is not quite the same as running across 200 yards under hostile fire to pull a wounded buddy to safety. And other than his staunch opposition to anything resembling torture, I can’t point to anything else he has done legislatively to help the average citizen. He has even backed off the opposition to repealing the ACA.

          • The Rick

            Remember when he single handedly saved the ACA?

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            by voting no…does every Dem get the same level of respect for it?

            Also, didn’t he say he’d vote for other proposals that would essentially accomplish the same thing? Didn’t he specifically say it was so much about repeal but about some procedural element to the repeal (I may be remembering it wrong)

          • Lefty Wright

            And how quickly he changed?

          • The Rick

            To sick?

          • Lefty Wright

            Probably. But he has said he supports the tax cuts, which includes provisions that will both damage the ACA and force cuts in Medicaid and Medicare.

          • The Rick

            Every republican supports tax cuts.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            and it’s a demonstrably stupid position that is not deserving of respect, nor, in my book, does it count as continuing to serve one’s country.

          • The Rick

            Taxes should always go up. Got it.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            nice strawman – didn’t say that or anything like that.

          • Lefty Wright

            With the economy doing well, corporations making great profits, unemployment at basically full employment levels(you always have some people between jobs, taking a long break, or waiting a while for something better), this is not the time to be cutting taxes and increasing debt. We are past due for a recession and the added debt and tax cuts will make it harder to pull out of.

          • The Rick

            Yeah it’s not but free $$$ is hard to deny.

          • Lefty Wright

            The money is not free. In this case, we are borrowing money and cutting safety net programs and entitlements like Medicare to provide benefits to the already comfortably rich.

          • The Rick

            Well when it shows up in my bank account without having to earn it I don’t know what else to call it.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            not to mention reconciling a decrease in revenue with their bizarre spending priorities (but we’re cutting spending on the social safety net, so it’s okay – whoops! those are a wise investment as it prevents further strain on the government and private companies).

          • Lefty Wright

            So he is no different than the other Republicans. Pretty much my point.

          • bupkus231

            That was like 20 minutes ago. In his 40+ years in government ( 4 years as a Representative, 1982 – 1986, and the rest of the time in the Senate ), what did he get done?

          • shivaskeeper

            Mediocre pilot is still a pilot. He endured almost 6 years in the Hanoi Hilton when he could have taken an easy out from it and not been blamed for doing it. He should get respect for that.

          • The Rick

            Thanks

          • shivaskeeper

            I told you, his service is not in dispute for me. It’s his career since then that I have issues with.

          • Arolpin

            He endured unspeakable torture and refused to be given special treatment. He resisted beyond any reasonable expectation. I’m not a huge McCain fan, but but let’s not make up shit like a common RWNJ. (You know, like the “push poll” before the SC primary that insinuated he had a black child (he has an adopted child who is Asian)).

          • bupkus231

            Can you cite a similarly distinguished history SINCE 1981?

            This is not a “What has he done for me lately” type question – but what has McCain done in his political career since then that is NOT anything more than resting on his laurels? Yeah, I know he won the Republican nomination to run for the Presidency in 2008 – a position in which he failed miserably – but what legislation has he pushed to successful implementation? He made splashes with his ” carbon tax” proposal ( which went absolutely nowhere ), he disavowed his initial support of a comprehensive immigration bill ( when it turned out to not be politically popular ).

            Rick – I don’t know you, but I suspect you don’t know dick about John McCain’s career.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        You seem a decent person. While glioblastoma is not something I would wish on anybody, ever, I am unconcerned about him.

      • FlemmishSpy

        So… I guess this is good news for John McCain?

      • Institute For Applied Despair

        ‘Bro’ is kind of a nonstarter.

        • The Rick

          Yeah I’m not a die hard lib. The GOP is so bad I come here. Feel free to block me.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            No need. You seem a decent soul. Of course, I say that as a die hard lib.:)

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        He’s a total phony and a fraud. He helped a swindler who cheated little old ladies out of their life saving ( Keating Five), he left his wife who waited patiently for him, because she was disfigured in a car accident, and he met someone younger and richer, and he was willing to put Palin a heart beat away from the presidency, and those are his good points. He would have voted to cut his own taxes if he wasnt ill. Fuck him.

        • The Rick

          He did it all by himself right?

          • Daniel

            Why does the fact that he didn’t mitigate that he did?

          • The Rick

            He served the government his whole life. Mistakes happen, I don’t blame him but if you want to that’s your right.

          • Daniel

            I think he’s self-serving and disingenuous, and that he cultivates a reputation for being a maverick that is mostly for his own benefit rather than as a reflection of any particular anti-party bravery he’s displayed.

          • The Rick

            I think all politicians are self serving and disingenuous. Pointing out one who has served his whole life and made mistakes is easy.

          • SisterArtemis

            I don’t, though I think many are. I’m repped by Peter DeFazio in the House, and I find him neither self-serving or disingenuous. Merkley and Wyden are pretty good too.

          • Gigglesnort

            Lately he has grown a tiny spine, I think, after pretending to have one all these years. He voted down the ACA fuckery. But he’d vote for this tax POS.

          • Edith Prickly
          • Rags

            I understand your desire to express a balanced opinion, but picking Palin as VP is, in and of itself, sufficient for him to earn my undying contempt.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            He had help from 4 other senators with the fraud thing, but the rest of its on him. Fuck him, twice.

      • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

        You be you, baby.

      • Bemused

        He’s done good things and not so good things. Ultimately he was a person containing both good and bad, just like the rest of us. But that cancer is terrible and I feel bad for anyone who had to suffer it.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      They’re voting aye because Cochran and McCain won’t be able to vote. Republicans only act independent when they have enough cover.

    • Duke

      But I want my kids to pay back trillions borrowed to make the mega-rich more comfortable. MAGA!

      And now I’m going to get my anti-psychotic meds and clutch my security blanket.

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      Reckon Walnuts is faking it?

      • grindstone

        Doubtful. Glioblastoma is a hard, fast, awful disease that takes you down like a cheetah on a wounded impala.

  • I’m listening to the most recent ep of West Wing Weekly and they’re talking to Eli Attie who was in the room when Gore retracted his initial concession to W and they just discussed that moment, still crazy almost 20 years later

  • Jukesgrrl

    Off-topic, but fits the category “bullshit doesn’t take the weekend off.”
    NARAL says a provision has been tucked into the tax bill that will allow FETUSES to be named as beneficiaries on tax forms.

    • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

      Along with the CDC not being allowed to use the word “fetus”, I think they’ve decided that this is much easier road to force abortion back into the shadows.

    • HazooToo

      How the fuck does that even work? Are they going to shove the check up there?

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        my only possible guess is that it’s for children the benefit of children that are unborn at the time the form is being filled out..why that would be necessary, I dunno.

        • HazooToo

          People used to not even NAME babies until they were a year old, in case they died, and now they want to leave their fortunes to an unstable clump of cells that lives in an often inhospitable environment for 9 months…

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          I can’t wait to see that probate hearing

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            some people are just lazy about forms – which is why, apparently, in Texas, this is a big deal…people get divorced and don’t change the beneficiary on the insurance policy. The person dies, they probate the estate and whoopsie, the name on the policy trumps intestate law and any name on the will, even if the will EXPLICITLY says, my life insurance benefits should go to y.

      • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

        Then have them sign it and shove it back out.

        Gonna need waterproof ink.

        • HazooToo

          These mental images do not go well with pizza.

    • Shan

      They put it back? I read a Rewire article a while back that said they had to take it out.

    • BadKitty904

      What about pets? Favorite articles of clothing? Comfy chairs?

    • John Thorstensen

      … but only if they get Social Security numbers?

      God, this is complete madness.

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      So the CDC can’t say fetus but the fucking tax code can?

      • bupkus231

        I think the tax code bill avoids that by talking about “unborn children”, their preferred term – but the effect is the same.

  • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

    The problem, you see, is that we don’t believe your lying ass.

    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/942519820947517440

    • Well that sounds true.

    • Rick Hill

      Because he’s already made the decision to do so. No consideration at all…

    • Shan

      Riiight. Just more “Stay tuned until after the break” bullshit.

      • OutOfOrbit

        i donut think he knew what he was saying

    • Duke

      If the buffoon-in-chief says so, then it must be questionable and mostly fodder for the chattering class.

    • Christopher Story

      He also wasn’t going to fire Flynn, or Spicer, or Preet, or Comey… Gee, I think I see a pattern.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        what was his position on omarosa about…oh, two weeks ago?

        • Paperless Tiger

          Wait, didn’t I already fire you once?

        • therblig

          maybe doggie briefly, but i’m guessing on the bottom mostly. possibly some pegging involved.

          wait, what?

    • BadKitty904

      And?

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Which means he totes is

    • WomanInThePersistence

      So my family will celebrate Christmas by marching in the streets. A new tradition!

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        Will that be in Savannah or Atlanta?

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Portland, Oregon.

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            Oh, yeah. Sorry. Two beers in…

          • WomanInThePersistence

            No worries.

    • therblig

      he’s considering hiring hillary to kill him.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Lying liar says what now?

    • Hobbes’ Evil Twin

      At this point Mueller is basically daring Drumpf to fire him. It will not go well for anyone on the transition team if those emails become public (Looking at you, Pence, in particular).

      • SadDemInTex

        If the Rethugs are smart they will try to keep Pence out of the worst of it. And we know he’s not a sex assaulted because Mother would have cutoff his balls.

    • Holiday Bozi
      • bupkus231

        At this point, I’m more like “His heart is still beating”. His very existence is an ongoing lie….

        • Institute For Applied Despair

          He even lies through his giant pores.

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      Of course, Trump himself can’t fire Comey. What he can do is start firing people at DOJ, starting with Rosenstein, until he finds somebody willing to fire Comey.

      Oh, the blood and bones there will be.

      • weighmaster

        Pssst: Mueller

  • Rick Hill

    Enough with this America first…in being terrible.
    https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a4G0Oyy_700b.jpg

    • Duke

      It’s sort of a “Don’t call us. We’ll call you” mentality.

    • BadKitty904

      Bad form, wot?

    • Rooster Cogburn105

      I heard they were just looking for a decent meal.

  • CW

    Knock it off Doug Jones. Trump’s supporters are never going to love you, so no need to pander to them.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      .???

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        he’s saying some spooky things.

        (To be totally fair, the cnn.com headline is, “Jones to Vote with Republicans” or something similar and but what he actually said was, he’d remain open minded and vote for a republican bill if it benefitted his constituents, which, IMHO, is a smart hting to say, especially after a divisive election.)

        • Victoria Ricola

          Eh. I live in a red state full of red staters, so it may be hard for the lucky ones who are blessed to be surrounded by people with very similar views to understand, but these types of milquetoast comments are exactly what the Dems need to win in a 50 state strategy.

          I don’t care what he says as long as he isn’t voting to repeal my rights or give my money to rich fuckers who don’t need it. I say let this man harmlessly pander to his constituency in peace, he knows them better than we do.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            no disagreement from me (who writes to you from Texas).

    • BadKitty904

      As Bamz spent 8 years proving…

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        5 or 6 anyways. He eventually turned into DGAF Barry

  • Baconzcrispy

    Go STEELERS!

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Antonio Brown injured. I’ll take it.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        Except they took him to the hospital so, ummm, too soon?

    • Msgr_MΩment

      This game’s going down to the wire.

  • shivaskeeper

    So. The brain is running a bit slow today. But, goddamn, Mueller had 10s of thousands of emails since the beginning of September. No one outside the investigation, even the ones who’s job it was to pull the archives and put them on a flash drive said anything about it. That is some serious OPSEC right there.

    Also, too the legal defense being offered seems to be that, “The dead guy promised us we would not be subject to the rules that literally everyone else who uses the .gov domain are subject to. You could ask him abut it, but he’s dead. It was probably Hillary what killed him”. In addition there is the, “We didn’t get a chance to look for and delete the references to the crimes before we were able to turn over whatever we decided to vet”. Does that about sum it up?

    • The Rick

      Hundreds of thousands. The rest seems spot on.

      • theCryptofishist

        What’s an order of magnitude between friends?

        • theCryptofishist

          Which reminds me, I’m receiving an Order of Magnitude in January. Please, come to the ceremony.

          • james crubb

            Do you get a order of decorum after?

          • theCryptofishist

            They tried, but they couldn’t make it fit.

        • Daniel

          I understand that’s a dessert.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            And a floor wax

        • Crank Tango
          • Clarence Spangle

            deeamn that’s an ugly nígger bítch

      • shivaskeeper

        Reports kept saying tens of thousands. Either way, it;s a fair amount of emails that no one leaked. The man runs a tight ship for damn sure.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Pert much. These boys ain’t too bright, are they?

    • therblig
    • mancityRed6

      it’s like when your parents already know where you were or what you did and they give you a chance to fess up.
      because if you lie about it you’re gonna get a longer grounding.

      • Institute For Applied Despair

        Or, in my family, a vicious beating.

        • mancityRed6

          my parents may have never laid a hand on me, but they never laid a hand on me in anger.

          • Institute For Applied Despair

            Better than their laying a hand on you in hunger.

      • Shan

        I grounded myself because my punishment was “next time your boyfriend asks you out, you can’t go.” Except I didn’t tell my dad about it until the NEXT time, so I couldn’t go then, either.

        • mancityRed6

          Joplin woman is telling me all about the times she snuck out of a window only to come home to find it locked and her older sister up, waiting.
          yeah.

          • Shan

            Oh, heck. I never broke my 11:00 curfew even once.

  • Blanche Beecham

    My dream is that the current President of the US will be in the process of impeachment by Valentine’s Day so My Boyfriend, Robert Mueller and I can have a nice dinner where he tells me all about how he’s set and snapped the traps shut to catch the rats.

    https://youtu.be/o0vDYEJ0Y7Y?t=3s

    • mancityRed6

      now I want you to be a leaker, but at the same time, I do like surprises…so…surprise us?

  • mancityRed6

    “Trump officials discovered Mueller had the emails when his prosecutors used them as the basis for questions to witnesses, the sources said.”
    this is my smug face
    https://media.giphy.com/media/4q0T4l26KcBI4/giphy.gif
    http://jtrobertson.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/angelsfiving.gif
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t65uHhP1fo0/UihvxBFYU3I/AAAAAAAAGuM/WO6iQNf0sLE/s1600/happy-dance-gif.gif

    • OutOfOrbit

      Tina Fay = HAWT !!!

    • TJ Barke

      High fiving a million angels!

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    Power still out at the Atlanta airport. Do we have a reason yet? Maybe–
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6871efc072041f1cbb9bf3ec559d21488c18821a1e6146dce89b60d269fe0a8b.png

    • Institute For Applied Despair

      “…Stevie…!”

    • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

      The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports they are now evacuating the airport. People are being permitted to take what they have on their person, but any checked luggage will be secured for later pickup.

      • Left Coast Tom

        That’ll be convenient for the vast majority of ATL passengers who are simply transiting.

      • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

        Wow, I am exponentially reinforced in my decision to avoid air travel to the best of my ability.

    • mappo

      Ask Ukraine about unexplained power outages. This is going to be the new normal.

  • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump

    Legally acquired emails via FOIA here.

    https://www.americanoversight.org/trump-gsa-emails

  • Michael R

    Open thread can be anything :

    The best way to overcome shyness is on top of a stack of speakers in high heels

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAIoQLZ1crE&t=1m0s

    • Holiday Bozi

      How about on high heels near a stack of speakers?
      https://youtu.be/l8mFEBnAImY?t=4574

    • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump

      I don’t think this is the open thread. It doesn’t say it’s the open thread.

      • SisterArtemis

        Yeah, but when did we ever follow the rules? Buncha rebels around here…

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          Question authority! Smash the state!!

        • Gary Charound

          I’m wearing pants right now. Wonkette’s dress code is not the boss of me!

          • weighmaster

            I found fleece lined leggings today.

    • Institute For Applied Despair

      It’s always Cramps time.

    • (((Sedagive)))

      Just got back from Mr. Sedagive’s gig: his band covered “What’s Inside A Girl?” The Cramps were the goddamn best, forever and ever, Amen.

  • mancityRed6
  • Institute For Applied Despair

    Hunh… https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/17/ta-nehisi-coates-neoliberal-black-struggle-cornel-west

    I agree 100% with roughly 50% of what Dr. West has to say here.
    Thoughts?

    • HazooToo

      I have no idea, but several angry black women have said “he can suck my ass” so I will defer to them.

    • mancityRed6

      I really can’t answer. as a white male, I am not one of the subjugated classes. and I saw the Obama administration as a step in the right direction. an achievement, but not one where all our problems would be solved. there is a power structure in DC and it has to be worked within rather than without. this is something the tea party or the other RWNJ coalitions in the house haven’t worked out yet.

    • alpacapunchbowl

      CW can’t bring himself to pass the torch. He also thinks everyone should get the fuck off of his lawn.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      There are very few things I care about less than what Cornel West has to say.

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      I’m waiting for West and possibly Ta-Nehisi to go down with #MeToo because I have to say they have that vibe.

    • Bemused

      Sounds like he’s basically saying that Coates doesn’t get intersectionality and doesn’t really distinguish between white supremacy and institutional racism. IDK if that is true or not. At the same time, civil rights workers of different generations aren’t always going to understand each other because they are confronting different issues and different dangers.

  • Sheepshagger
    • mancityRed6

      get on top

    • Left Coast Tom

      Won’t this impact the Hobbits? (“Hobbiton” is near SH29, right?)

      https://www.youtube.com/wa