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Nathan Mathis holding a picture of his late daughter, Patti Sue.

WARNING: If you have not seen this video yet, it might make you cry. And if you cry, that will be a sure signal that you are a better human being than every grunting beef shart who casts a vote for Roy Moore today in Alabama’s special US Senate election.

In this video, you will meet Nathan Mathis, a peanut farmer from southern Alabama. Mr. Mathis is just about as country Alabama as it gets, and he seems like a pretty conservative gentleman. But he didn’t show up at Monday night’s Roy Moore rally to clap his hands when Kayla Moore said she had once palled around with a known Hebrew. He didn’t come to be reassured by Roy Moore’s Vietnam pal’s moving story of That Time Roy Moore Coulda Fucked Some Kids But Refrained. Mathis came to stand outside and deliver a message about his daughter Patti Sue Mathis, who died in 1995 when she took her own life because she couldn’t deal with the fact she was a lesbian:

“Judge Roy Moore called my daughter Patti Sue Mathis a pervert because she was gay,” the sign read. “A 32-year-old Roy Moore dated teenage girls ages 14 to 17. So that makes him a pervert of the worst kind. Please don’t vote for Roy Moore!”

Speaking to reporters, Mr. Mathis said this:

My name is Nathan Mathis. My daughter was Patti Sue Mathis. That’s her right there. [pointing to picture] Judge Roy Moore called her a pervert for one reason, because she was gay.

Roy Moore has spent his entire life hurting gay people, or at least the parts of his life he wasn’t busy molesting little girls, ALLEGEDLY WE GUESS.

Mr. Mathis continued:

If he called her a pervert, he called your child a pervert if she was gay, or if your son was gay. This is something people need to stop and think about. … How was my daughter a pervert just because she was gay? Does it mean she was born gay? I don’t know the answer to that, but she was gay.

Mr. Mathis added that he’s a man of faith, and when a reporter asked him what he wanted to accomplish by standing outside that rally, here was his reply:

I don’t know what I’ll accomplish. I really don’t. I had mixed emotions about coming, but somebody needs to speak up. And if it’s all to no avail, so bet it. It won’t be the first time I’ve done something to no avail, OK?

Mr. Mathis was there to say his daughter ended up taking her own life because of hateful messages like those spouted by Roy Moore. Messages he used to believe in himself:

I was anti-gay, myself. I said bad things to my daughter, myself, which I regret. But I can’t take back what happened to my daughter. But stuff like saying my daughter’s a pervert, I’m sure that bothered her. Now, you know Judge Moore … he didn’t call my daughter by name. He said all gay people are perverts. Abominations. That’s not true. We don’t need a person like that representing us in Washington. That’s why I’m here.

We want to hug Mr. Mathis right now.

A dad who suffered something we wouldn’t wish on our worst enemy, the loss of his daughter, Patti Sue, and for such a terrible, stupid reason. And he knows his own earlier lack of understanding contributed to what happened to his daughter. And he’s standing out there, warning folks that their words hurt people. Their actions hurt people. Some of the people they’re hurting are their own children. (FACT.)

Mr. Mathis knows that now, and he wishes he hadn’t had to learn it in such an awful damned way.

Now, lest Alabama Roy Moore supporters think George Soros hired Fusion GPS to take a secret message to the Washington Post so they could pay Mr. Mathis one million Obama Bucks to make up this story to hurt the candidacy of True and Perfect Roy Moore, that’s just not true. Mr. Mathis wrote a letter to the newspaper in Dothan, Alabama, in 2012, about his daughter’s story, and it will break your heart. We’re going to reproduce it in full, because that’s how much we want you to read it:

With election time just around the corner, and watching and reading the news, “gay bashing” has begun again.

I once told gay jokes and bashed gays, but a real true life story might make people think just as that true life story makes me think.

On Oct. 11, 1972, Sue and I were blessed to have a baby girl, which we named Patti Sue Mathis. Patti was a wonderful child – happy, treated other children as she should, regardless of wealth or color, very athletic, tomboyish (I always had to pitch batting practice to her after Dixie Youth practice), very beautiful and smart. Patti may hold the scoring title at Wicksburg in basketball for girls. I’m not sure, but her points-per-game average was high. She was selected as the most valuable player at Enterprise State Junior College in softball.

When Patti was a senior at Wicksburg High, I found out she was gay from a young friend she had told. I confronted Patti and I said some things to her that still eat on me to this day. I told her I was sorry that I said those mean things to her.

Patti moved out, but came back home approximately four months later and sat down and cried and said, “Daddy, I don’t want to be gay. Will you please get me some help?” I told her that I sure would and I called UAB hospital and made an appointment.

Patti had been raised by going to church at Christian Home Church of Christ, and she was there almost every time the door was open. Patti knew the story of Sodom, for oftentimes gay bashing was preached from the pulpit. Looking back now, I wonder how Patti must have felt, or if she even knew she was gay then. I never asked her.

We went with Patti to UAB and all types of blood work and tests were done on her that day. Finally, on over in the afternoon, the doctor called Patti, Sue and me into his office and he told Patti, “Young lady, you can’t help the way you are. There is nothing we can do for you.” I said to myself, “Man, this doctor is crazy.”

We visited other doctors and psychiatrists and Patti was told the same thing: “You can’t help the way you are.”

On March 22, 1995, Patti took her own life because she didn’t want to be gay anymore. She was tired of being ridiculed and made fun of. She was tired of seeing how a lot of people treat gay people. I found Patti that day.

Sometime after Patti died, I attended church and a visiting preacher was preaching. About 10 minutes into the sermon, he bashed gays the rest of the way. As soon as the invitation song was given, I went out the door with one of the worst headaches I had ever had. I was ashamed of myself for sitting there and not defending Patti. I have not been much since.

I have a hard time believing that God would allow Patti to be born as she was and if the doctors and psychiatrists were correct that “she could not help the way she was,” that Patti was going to bust hell wide open. I asked a local doctor recently if the medical profession had found a cure for being gay and he said, “No.” He changed the subject after that.

I have no quarrel with any letter writers or readers on this subject. Believe what you want to. I only know that if you ever have a child or grandchild who is gay, you’ll think differently.

Whatever happened to “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” Does that exclude gays?

May God have mercy on us all. I only know I miss my daughter Patti very much and I am grateful for having her as my daughter.

Nathan Mathis

Wicksburg

Don’t make fun of how Nathan Mathis took Patti Sue to the hospital to see if they could cure her of The Gay. That’s not the point. He didn’t know better, and hell, this was before Ellen came out on national TV — Patti Sue didn’t know better either. And Mr. Mathis has to live with that, for the both of them.

There has to be room for redemption. And if anyone is atoning, it’s him.

LGBT kids from Alabama and elsewhere have been bullied, driven to depression, and even taken their own lives over the years because of the kinds of messages Roy Moore has spent his life spewing. It’s still happening now.

So, Alabamian who usually votes Republican, do you want to send those kids a message that they are loved, no matter who they are, and that people who call them “perverts” and “abominations” are liars? Do you want the kids in YOUR TOWN, in YOUR CHURCH and in YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD to know their lives are valuable?

THEN GET OVER YOUR SHIT AND VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT THIS TIME, OH MY GOD, IT IS NOT THAT DIFFICULT.

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  • Anne Of Green Bagels

    bigotry is all fun and games until a family member catches the gay.

    • Squeegee

      For most bigots that doesn’t stop the fun they just get to direct it against a member of their own family

      • Anne Of Green Bagels

        and I’m afraid that will never change.

    • NerdWithNoName

      A buddy of mine has 2 sons now well adjusted grown men. When the youngest one was about 4 my buddy said to me ” I think this one is gay”. I was pretty sure it was too early to tell. He and his wife treated both sons with love and respect and he was right, the youngest was gay. I don’t know what the moral of the story is.

      • Anne Of Green Bagels

        that’s about the age where a lot of gay people will tell you when, in retrospect, they noticed that something was different about themselves.

        the moral of the story is that your buddy noticed, didn’t freak out over it and was able to raise his son like a father should. the way it should be.

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          I noticed when my daughter was 4.

  • armed_bears

    Steve Bannon and The Grunting Beef Sharts were the opening act at last night’s Roy Moore rage-a-thon.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      and the Gin Blossoms made an appearance

      on Bannon’s face…

    • Daniel

      You just know that “grunting beef sharts” is what he considers a playful name which he uses for actual sharts when he’s hosting.

      Black tie soirees or intimate candle lit dinners for two- “grunting beef shart” is welcomed everywhere as a way of breaking the ice and easing the mood.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        For him it’s foreplay…

        • Daniel

          That’s “sighing curry shart”. There’s enough of a waft of spice to raise the temperature, if you know what I mean.

    • SeeTrainOffTheRails

      I think I saw them on the same bill as Quiet Riot one year.

      How the mighty have fallen.

    • kaydenpat

      Sheriff David “Kill the Inmates” Clarke also spoke so it was a swell old time.

      • armed_bears

        This is OT…. but Clarke is a damaged flask of vitriol in a cowboy hat. What a sad fella.

    • Bright Bart

      is that where he landed on the band name? I like it. very fitting.

  • Squeegee

    Yep and I have a gay brother who isn’t dead but was so mercilessly bullied for being gay throughout his youth that it scarred him for life and contributed to his mental illness that makes him unable to hold down a job or a relationship to this day.
    Because that is what the bullies wanted to make him feel inferior and ultimately kill himself or relegate himself to the borders of society. They accomplished their goal with this poor man’s daughter and my brother but we need to make sure that behavior is no longer acceptable in the form of Roy Moore or Donald Trump or anyone else going forward.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Who the fuck cut up all the onions?

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      Redemption and atonement.

      And love.

      • kilgoretrout

        We are so in need of love in this world. And ignorant people seem to be picky about the way people love.

    • Christopher Story

      IKR? *sniffle* Someone open a window!

    • SeeTrainOffTheRails

      I did. With my tears.

      Sorry about that.

    • Parakeetist

      A cat

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    My heart breaks for this man, his wife, his child.

  • elviouslyqueer

    God bless you, Mr. Mathis. You’re a good, good man.

  • clubseal

    I’m not crying, you’re crying! Oh wait, no, that’s me.

  • Loving kindness people, we all could exhibit more loving kindness to those we encounter every single day.

  • Roadstergal

    Oh, Mr. Mathis. You’re a flawed human being just like all of us. But you’re better than most of us, because you were able to look at yourself, the community you were in, and the things you’ve believed all of your life, and question them.

    I’m so, so sorry for your daughter. I wish she were here today.

    And I’m sorry for you.

    I hope your state doesn’t let you down.

  • J. M. Tusks, Esq.

    “So, Alabamian who usually votes Republican, do you want to send those kids a message that they are loved, no matter who they are.”

    Um, no. They don’t.

    Sigh.

  • WilbyToad

    What I Saw Inside Roy Moore’s Barn Burner

    At the risk of sounding like every liberal Yankee bogeyman flitting through the minds of the assembled, this event was completely nuts. It was a naked appeal to unreason. It was the Rose Parade of empowered ignorance. It was the Royal Wedding of Stupid and Mean. It was the Celebration of the Lizard Brain. The Id was in the saddle, and it was riding the crowd, and the barker at this particular carnival of fools was quite happy to bring all the suckers in out of the Alabama dark and into the freak show he’d created.

    by CHARLES P. PIERCE / ESQUIRE
    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a14415471/roy-moore-last-rally/
    Great read. Endless asinine posturing and buffoonery.

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    • AnnieGetYerFun

      “But at no point was Bannon, the last heir to House Harkonnen, more transparently lacking in shame as when he identified himself with the military families in the audience.” God bless Charlie forever.

    • clubseal

      I like this Charles Pierce, and would subscribe to his newsletter.

      • cmd resistor

        “Celebration of the Lizard Brain.”

        • Daniel

          Jim Morrison’s one contribution to the literature of academic psychology.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      He’s right. You can’t keep defending these people and trying to tell yourself they’re good. They aren’t. They’re bigoted morons who deliberately feed themselves a steady diet of stupidity and Mt. Dew. I hate knowing I live in a country where an investment banker with degrees from Harvard can fool rubes into thinking he’s one of them because he dresses like their unemployed brother-in-law and spews hatred and bullshit in an unending tsunami that will kill this country cold flat dead, which is his stated goal. If that is what they want, they will get what they deserve. The unfair part is that the rest of us will get it along with them, and the country they think we don’t love because we dare to criticize it will vanish from this earth.

  • Anne Of Green Bagels

    as a gay man, I can tell you there are way too many stories just like this out there. bullying will scar you for life if it doesn’t kill you.

    • ImGoingBacon

      May I tell my story? It’s nothing compared to his, or his daughters, but it still bugs me. My dad made a comment once about A Gay who moved into my great aunt’s neighborhood, and saying basically ‘there goes the neighborhood’. Right then, I decided I would never tell my dad, because I knew I was gay. It hit me so bad, that I couldn’t come out to him in person. Instead, I wrote him a coming out letter. He changed his tune, but it still bothers me how that went down.
      My point? Words cut deeper, especially when the speaker doesn’t have context of any given situation.

    • willi0000000

      it takes only rational argument to change a liberal mind . . . but it better be good!

      it takes personal involvement to change a conservative mind . . . case in point ↓

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f9b81f56177bd54b60fe7d009764709b9937f0b703f8360c12ad37913b0aa603.png

  • Lance Thrustwell

    It’s good to be reminded that even if Moore wasn’t a hebephile/ephebophile or whatever the fuck he is, his ideas are evil and cause real harm. It’s good what this man is doing. I hope it helps him find some measure of peace.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    It’s a shame that we live in a world where people believe the ugly things that Mr Mathis used to believe. But there is hope when people like him put that hate away and come back to the light.

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    Until all children are loved just as they are, the U.S. will not be MAGA.

  • wide_stance_hubby

    I must be in bad shape, because it makes me angry that this man is an exception.

  • JohnBull

    Grunting Beef Shart? Sounds like a great name for a high school variety show act.

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      They’re no Captain Beefheart, that’s for sure.

  • JohnBull

    Didn’t Jesus tell us to love one another? Love thy enemies? Shit, today’s GOP doesn’t even pretend to like their friends. I think Jesus will have his hands full if he decides to come back.

    • Anne Of Green Bagels

      not T-Rex-ridin’ Republican Jesus.

      • willi0000000

        surely, it was only a Velociraptor.

  • jqheywood

    Damn it Evan, now I’m crying at work again.
    This right here, though, needs to be said over and over:
    “There has to be room for redemption.”
    My heart goes out to that man, who is brave enough to let us see his pain and to try to make amends. Maybe someone will have their narrow mind expanded by his witness.

  • Shieldmaidenwannabe

    Mr. Nathan Mathis, a father who loves his daughter. Thank you for your bravery.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    That is a terribly sad story. I feel for this man as a father. But I must point out that, like all republicans, he is unable to understand how people who are different feel when they are exposed to ridicule and hatred until it happens to somebody close to himself. I’m glad he has had an awakening. I wish he had had it before he hurt his daughter by his own ignorance and bigotry.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Still, it took courage for him to show up at that rally with a sign and talk to the press like he did.
      True Story ~ My daughter is gay, or as she prefers “gender queer”. I’ve known since she was in high school and told me that she was attending meetings at Youth Pride. We watched “Skins UK” together and she identified with the pansexual character and we talked about it. She didn’t come out publicly until college when she was in a relationship and she wanted us to meet her girlfriend.
      OMFG, my family liked to have lost they minds.
      I basically had to tell them that my daughter is still the same person she has always been. They just found a new fact that changes nothing. And that if she and her GF were not welcome, then I’m not either. That shut a lot of it down.
      And now, everyone loves her latest GF (of two years). She’s even coming with the family on next summer’s family cruise to celebrate my dad’s 80th birthday.
      So change is possible. Someone just has to model it for people.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        I think it’s maybe easier (for some families, anyway) when everyone has been able to tell for a long time that the child is probably gay. That was the case with a nephew of mine – when he came out, there wasn’t any shock, I’ll tell ya that!

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          They didn’t know. I knew. It was a shock for my parents.

          • Lance Thrustwell

            Every story is different. And I think it can be harder to tell with girls. There are a lot of hard-core tomboys who end up completely straight. That doesn’t happen as much with boys.

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            True. Sexuality is a continuum.
            My brother just came out as bi and has a GF who is trans and my mom says “don’t tell your dad”. So baby steps??

    • Beautiful Soup

      We need to make a virtual reality game so that conservatives who don’t have a gay relative will know what it feels like to love a gay person. And repeat with all the other kind of “others”.

      • ariel_gee_398

        This is why conservatives are against “diversity” – if you know people who are different, they become people, not scary monsters. And you can’t rile up the base if “others” are just people.

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          They’re especially afraid of “diverse” children being shown to be the same innocent little kids as their own. A lot easier to dehumanize the enemy when you don’t even have to think of their children as anything but an invasive species. So what do they do? Dehumanize the children themselves as enemies “in the making.” It didn’t work in Canada, when Harper went too far in allowing the rabid con base to attack the little Syrian boy who drowned when his family was trying to get from Turkey to Europe so they could eventually join family in Canada.

          But it sure worked in the already deplorable USA, where that poor baby’s photo got Photoshopped into memes shared widely all over the Internet — everything from Calvin taking a piss on his grave (or him washed ashore), to John Cena doing a “You Can’t See Me” over his lifeless body, to a dog peeing on him like he was a fire hydrant, and even Triumph (of the Will?) the Insult-Comic Dog captioned with “What a poor, sad, helpless little Muslim… for me to poop on“. As a result, we ended up with Trump shitting on the humanity of every single Muslim in the world and then justifying his rhetoric when they understandably lashed out. But even he was the manifestation of that already out-of-control hatred — the Internet comment section made flesh. “Beautiful Syrian babies” nothing. There is no greater low of evil than to strip the dignity away from a child.

        • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

          YES, THIS.^^^

      • kaydenpat

        But Republicans like Trump know Black people and yet…

        • Beautiful Soup

          Conservatives I have known will tell you that their black friends are “different,” or say things like “I don’t think of him as black.”

          • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

            “He’s not a Muslim. I think he’s actually a nice person.” -Walnuts, addressing a lady-wingnut at a town hall meeting who was ranting and raving about Obama being an evil Muslim terrorist

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          This is the issue with diversity in the South. Many conservatives here will talk all kinds of shit.
          “Mexicans are lazy – but not Jesus here. He’s a hard worker”.
          “Blacks are thugs – but not LeRoy here. He’s a good ole boy”.
          “Gays are perverts – but not my son. He’s wonderful to his mama”.
          So doesn’t the exception disprove the rule?
          Cognitive dissonance is deafening.
          But I encountered the opposite in the North. People who seemed so liberal to your face, talking all kinds of shit about you behind your back.
          And that’s a big part of why I stay here. Because things have changed in the last four decades. The conservatives are so desperate here that they have to cheat (gerrymandering, voter suppression) to stay in power. And that can be, will be and is being fought and reversed.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            I live in Florida and for a while lived in California. Let’s just say politically, I identify more with California.

    • elviouslyqueer

      It’s hard to, as we say in the South, get beyond your raising. I’m more than willing to give him a pass because he KNOWS he was wrong and he’s not only owning it, but he’s telling all his fellow Republican peckerwood friends that they’re wrong too. That’s unbelievably brave, especially in Alabama.

    • ariel_gee_398

      I’m sure he wishes his awakening had come sooner and at less great a cost, too. But he’s doing what he can to atone and help others before it’s too late.
      Also, for what it’s worth, if you google this guy he’s run for office as both a Republican and a Democrat, so I’m not sure his ideology is so easy to pin down.

    • writersbloc

      Wanted to post this exact thought but couldn’t find the right words to keep me from coming off as an asshole. Certainly a tragic story, and while it might not be the case here, Conservatism is a movement of zero empathy.

    • I didn’t know any better until I met actual gay people.

      You grow up your life being taught something, it’s hard to shake until you’re exposed to real people, not the bigoted caricatures.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Well, I was raised to believe that women who had sex before marriage were sluts, a belief I carried right up until a woman whom I liked got pregnant during our first year of college. So I do agree with your point. It is your raising that forms your mind – but you have the opportunity to open it to new ideas.

    • eastcoastlib

      People are imperfect. We all make mistakes. Most of us are capable of self reflection but few of us are capable of standing in front a rally for a bigot and calling him out, using the most painful chapter in your life to do it. It’s brave. We should encourage everyone to be so brave.

  • JackLinks

    I dedicate this song to every homophobe, in the world!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVzTbjxNKxo

  • The response to this story should be, “No more.”

    No more lives destroyed because of hatred, religion, or cheap politics. It’s bullshit. It’s awful. And those kids don’t deserve to die alone in despair.

    • Anne Of Green Bagels

      thank you!

    • GuidedAccordingly

      And no Moore!

      • I have so little faith in the ‘good Christians’ of Alabama. Here’s hoping they prove me wrong.

        • Boscoe

          yeah, I have no faith in them at all. I’d love to be proven wrong though.

  • BaconzHRTbrokezn

    I don’t know if anyone listened to Morning Edition this morning but the the Roy Moore supporters were just bizarre (or is it bazaar?) At their logic at voting for him. One woman had her little girl, no older than 7, talking about how abortion kills babies.

    If you ladies want to feel better. PA governor Tom Wolf said regarding the 20 week fetal abortion bill in the Commonwealth’s legislature, “I will veto any legislation that attempts to curb the rights of women to make their decisions about their own health care. I will veto any legislation that takes away women’s rights just because Harrisburg Republicans think they know better than medical professionals,” 

    https://whyy.org/articles/wolf-vows-veto-pa-measure-restricting-abortion-rights/

    • kaydenpat

      Someone should have asked that woman and her girl if they were upset that Republicans have let the CHIP program lapse given that poor mothers depend on it for their children.

      • Christopher Story

        “God will provide”

        • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

          And if kids get sick it’s part of God’s Plan. That, or your faith isn’t strong enough and you should have prayed harder.

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            That’s what I mean, 99% of the time there’s no reaching these people. They really don’t care if what the Republicans are doing gets them or their children killed, because that means they’re being raptured!

            Everyone else who wants those scummy socialist things, they’re “of the flesh,” they’ve substituted “the state” for faith in the Lord, and they need to just turn all their concerns over to Jesus and wait patiently for Him to come all over you in your heavenly funeral clothes like a common ghostfucking fortune-teller or something.

            Don’t go to the doctor; God will provide. No need for health insurance, because that pays for you to trust the doctor instead of that God will provide. Oh, you don’t agree? Well, too bad! By voting for Republicans to hold the country hostage, we’re “saving your soul”! We’re not going to let you have those “temptations of the flesh,” because we know better — and we know better because we know what God wants!

            At what point do we decide to ban the GOP as a terrorist cult using the same criteria as we do for ISIS and Aum Shinrikyo?

          • willi0000000

            if their god will protect them . . . why did their god allow medicine to be so effective? . . . why did their god let science be so good at predicting events in the physical universe? . . . why did their god let the physical universe even exist?

            their god sounds like an incompetent middle manager asked to sit in the big chair while the boss is on vacation.

    • Anna Rompage

      Yep, I’d rather have a child molester in office, than a baby killer…. I think those were her exact words… Or was that the guy they interviewed after the mom?

      • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

        You got it. That’s exactly what she said. Her daughter did not discover that Doug Jones is pro-choice by herself. Her mother is trying very hard to twist that little girl’s mind into a bucket of hate like her own.

        • Non-Threatening Ron

          Which is why it’s so hard to be hopeful for the next generation.

      • Jeffery Campbell

        And she thinks those are her only choices….

      • BaconzHRTbrokezn

        I think it was Nintendo Totenberg that was down there but Carl Castle asked her before she started her report. “So how are things down there? Enjoying Southern Hospitality?”

        And she said “of course it’s been great down here”…but you could hear the tone in her voice saying “I’m a Jewish reporter from NPR in Alabama, the epitome of ‘FAKE NEWZ RUN BY THE ZIONIST CABAL OF WORLD DOMINATION’

    • SisterArtemis

      it is bizarre, btw, not bazaar, which is that massive market where you can get weird food, odd clothing, and lots of good people watching.

      • BaconzHRTbrokezn

        I always for get that. Just like desert and dessert.

        • Daniel

          And desert.

          I am surprised all the time by how few people know that “just deserts” is not “just desserts”.

          • BearDeLaOursistance

            So it may be one’s just deserts to get deserted in a desert? With votes?

          • Historicat

            Only if it’s what they deserve.

    • SeeTrainOffTheRails

      It is a Bazaar of the Bizarre.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        Birmingham’s Bizarre Bazaar.

  • kaydenpat

    So sad that his daughter had to die for him to get the message that he needed to accept her regardless of her sexual orientation.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      She couldn’t accept herself. And that’s a tragedy too.

      • kaydenpat

        Couldn’t accep herself because of the homophobia exhibited by her father and wider society. Glad to see that he has changed.

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          It’s the churches more than anything. Mr. Mathis gets that right in his letter.

  • Michael Smith

    “And if it’s all to no avail, so be it. It won’t be the first time I’ve done something to no avail, OK?”

    You know what, that’s pretty damn on point.

  • Hanaka

    Right about that crying thing too. Thanks for posting this. We are human, dammit. All of us. And we’re in this fucking thing together.

  • Resistor Radio

    Tears. Not even going to blame them on onion ninjas, this is straight-up, undiluted empathy for this man and his daughter. It’s never easy to admit you’re wrong, or were wrong, especially publicly and especially when it goes against the religion that’s been drilled into your head your whole life. I’m proud of this man, and I’m sorry for his loss, and I’m sorry that he’ll have to live with the mistakes he made for the rest of his life. And I thank him for speaking up, speaking out, in a hostile environment, exposing his shame and grief to maybe, just maybe, get people to think of the damage their rhetoric can do. Tears.

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      For all of Donnie’s dotarding about the two Corinthians who walked into a bar, at least one of them did offer some useful advice written on the napkin:

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/665d610190cea52efc005c956f9b827982fd9f3a568ba3f930ff57f0bb03ce2c.jpg

      • Roadstergal

        It failed last year.

        • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

          Overwhelmed by fear and hate. Even Jesus got nailed for it.

        • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

          Hopefully that wasn’t a total failure but just a cliffhanger on the way to a better finale. The empire struck back, but then there was episode VI…

        • Non-Threatening Ron

          It didn’t fail. It was straight-up murdered.

        • Boscoe

          That was the Electoral College, not Love. :P

      • Michael Smith

        Paul, that’s great writing, but inexplicably some people who claim to abide by your teachings clearly don’t get it. At all. Whatsoever.

      • Resistor Radio

        Okay I WILL blame the onion ninjas this time. *hugs*

  • Blackest Noobs

    compare and contrast:

    Moore didn’t get his pedophile’ing ass to vote until past noon.

    Jones voted in the morning like a normal fucking person at little past 9 am.

    why Alabama might elect a slacker piece of shit like Moore is beyond me.

    • Daniel

      [raises hand] I normally vote in the evening, after work.

      • Blackest Noobs

        but you’re also not running for office. it is the norm for candidates to vote in the morning.

      • eastcoastlib

        You probably have one of those job things like a dirty commie liberalz. Roy Moore can’t be bothered with a job.

        • TakingAmes

          At least not since he got tossed out twice for refusing to obey the law.

    • Anne Of Green Bagels

      because he is a white male bigot who says Jesus a lot

    • Christopher Story

      He got distracted when he passed a cheerleader warmup

      • theCryptofishist

        I thought it was a bunch of girls playing jacks.

    • GHERKINS du RESISTANCE!

      Maybe Roy has seen internal polling, and he knows his pedo ass is toast, no reason to go charging into defeat.

      This has been my wishful thought of the day.

      • Blackest Noobs

        unfortunately, the numbers are more in his favor.
        Moore losing would be one the greatest upsets in election history. yes i know he’s an alleged pedophile, but even that has not stopped people from supporting him nor the Republican party coming back to support him.

  • Crystalclear12

    Damn onion ninjas.

  • TJ Barke
    • wide_stance_hubby

      Takes me back to junior high school, where every day was non-stop hell.

      • theCryptofishist

        They call it “middle school” now. I bet it’s still hell.

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          Yes it is.

        • weighmaster

          I think that’s regional, in 1979 in Florida, it was middle school, when I moved to Nevada and then Oregon over the next couple of years, it was Jr. high.

          • theCryptofishist

            Around here it’s time based. In the 70s it was Jr. High. Now it’s middle school.

          • AnnieGetYerFun

            It varies by location where we are. We had middle schools where I grew up, and still do. But there are junior high schools just across the river.

          • Meccalopolis

            In NYC it can be, junior high, intermediate school or middle school! Product of 26 separate school boards

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        And now those of us who made it can all help make it stop.

    • BearDeLaOursistance
  • Joe Beese
    • Christopher Story

      “This fucking guy!”

    • Apple Scruff

      Before I read the Tweet, I thought that was Ted Nugent.

      Po-tay-toe, po-tah-toe…

    • hudson

      horseshit fake showmanship.

      • GoutMachine

        Why do all these “manly men” Republicans keep playing dress-up?

        • Daniel

          Because there’s a yawning, sucking maelstrom where their sense of self should be. They are desperate for others’ approval, and believe cruelty is the way to show they’re not.

        • hudson

          if they were real christians they would have a life record of a Carter.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Horse is saying “help me”.

    • Non-Threatening Ron

      I have been on a horse exactly once in my life. (It was on 9/11. Must tell y’all that story some time) and even I know that ain’t how you ride. His tack’s wrong, his signals make no sense, and he appears to be giving no fucks at all for the animal underneath him.
      Sadly, the poor horse is probably too well-trained to dump his pedo ass into the nearest pile of stable leavings.

    • Bright Bart

      that is the most FML face i have seen on a horse.

  • Michael Smith

    For Roy Moore and his like, I have a quote from another famous (though fictional) Alabaman,

    Sometimes I guess there just aren’t enough rocks

  • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

    What I don’t understand is how there will still be bigots who will attack this man as a “traitor” and who are not OK with consenting relationships between adults of the same sex — but this gets met with a shrug because “religious freedom” and “parental sovereignty”?

    Child marriage is still legal in every single state of America — as long as parental permission is obtained

    Hopefully there will be more people like Mr. Mathis and enough outraged human-rights activists to put a stop to this sort of thing — at best extreme cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy and at worst, outright barbarity — once and for all. As long as no one is being harmed and both/all parties mutually agree to the arrangement in its totality, same-sex relationships or any other kind of relationships are NBD and really nobody’s business. But kids need to be OFF LIMITS.

    I don’t care what your obsolete, incoherent book of fairy tales says, or whether you’re a tinfoil crank who thinks the deep state is going to take your babies away in black helicopters for Agenda 21. You are not the “owner” of your child and you do not get to “promise them off” to an adult for any reason at all.

    Republicans put a kibosh on the U.S. ratifying the U.N. Resolution for the Rights of the Child — which would have outlawed child marriage — exactly because of “reasons” like this. Unacceptable. Your “parental sovereignty” ends where your child’s human dignity begins. This is a situation where we need to “think of the children.” Because somewhere, there is a father who does not have the ability or willingness to repent and do better like Mr. Mathis, who is likely to marry off his own gay daughter to some 40s, 50s, skeeve from the church community, as a way of “fixing” what doesn’t need to be fixed. This is Taliban-level savagery and it needs to end.

    • Anne Of Green Bagels

      I’ve seen parents doubling down on their bigotry after their child committed suicide. my tears in that regard have dried up a long time ago an so has my faith in the faithful.

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        I’m grateful for whatever we can get in terms of people realizing their mistakes — even if it’s after it’s too late. But I agree, where I tend to get cynical is the fact that they seem to be the exception rather than the rule.

        • Anne Of Green Bagels

          because Nathan Mathis is the exception. I don’t even want to imagine the shit he’s been through lobbed at him by his oh so Christian peers.

  • eastcoastlib

    That is a man. A real man. Not the lifeless cucks who fill our TV screens every night with their flaccid horsemanship or their idiotic tweets. But by this time tomorrow no one will remember him and we’ll be fed a constant diet of pasty white assholes crowing like roosters. We’re quite unwell as a society.

    • Bright Bart

      and their little hedly lamar guns.

  • FukuiSanYesOta

    Aw shit I’m crying and have a meeting in five minutes.

  • Apple Scruff

    I cried last night when I saw this clip on Chris Hayes, and while I didn’t rewatch it just now, I’m crying again thinking about it.

    I HOPE HOPE it goes the right way tonight.

  • Jeffery Campbell

    That just breaks my heart into so many sharp and painful pieces.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    Mr. Mathis did the hardest thing a person can do – he looked at himself and realized that he made mistakes, that he made choices, and those mistakes and choices ultimately may have had a hand in no longer having his own child there. Listening to him, you have no doubt that if the God he so fervently believed in offered to trade Patti’s life for his, he would take that deal without hesitation.
    The fact that he is not only admitting that pain, but using it to try and atone for his own foolishness, must not pass without being noted.

    • elviouslyqueer

      This. All this.

    • hudson

      and it’s so hard to do any of that forget all of it.

  • BlueDawg

    What? No, I’ve just got something in my eye. Yeah, it’s the same thing I had in my eye when I watched the video of this yesterday.

  • chazmanr

    We want to hug Mr. Mathis right now.

    WHY?! Because he changed his warped fucking opinion about one thing, because it hit close to home? I seriously doubt he shown an ounce of empathy for anyone for whom he doesn’t have a personal experience to guide him. I suspect that he is a racist SOB and I feel no pity for a man who probably drove his own daughter to take her own life.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Boy, you’re just full of oranges and morning sunshine today.

      • chazmanr

        I have run out of empathy, patience and sympathy for 40% of the people in this country, because they have never shown any for more than 10% of the population. I am a pissed off old liberal watching fascism take root in America and I don’t give a fuck if the southern half of this country slips into the Gulf of Mexico.

    • BearDeLaOursistance

      How do we know that he hasn’t managed to generalize the lesson into one of broader empathy? And in general, I’m reluctant to look at a person’s prior wrongs as a reason to push them away once they’ve redeemed themselves. All that does is create a powerful disincentive against ever making that redemption.

  • gene108

    I know people have written they wish Mr. Mathis had is awakening before his daughter killed herself, and why is it Republicans can’t empathize unless it happens to them, but a lot of folks need to hit some sort of bottom to realize what they did was wrong and destructive.

    It doesn’t matter if it’s alcoholism or homophobia, we find ways to justify our bad behavior.

    The fact he is trying to make amends and has shaken off whatever peer pressure must be around him, with regards to homophobia, is commendable. I doubt the churches he attended, for example, have stopped gay bashing.

    I’ve heard stories of anti-abortion grandmas taking their grand-daughter in to have an abortion and then go back to protesting abortion clinics, because of peer pressure.

    He did not just have a come to Jesus moment. Mr. Mathis is giving a big Fuck You to everyone, who he used to hang around with, with regards to their homophobia.

    I hope more people get his message.

  • canes_pugnaces

    I would like the Wonkettes to mention that Judge Gimme Moore can’t ride to save his life. The bit’s too tight. His stirrups are wrong. His posture is wrong, and he can’t handle his horse.

    How can he expected to handle being a senator?

    • Blackest Noobs

      i don’t ride horse but even i could tell something was amiss there.

      • canes_pugnaces

        The worst is he is hurting the horse – no surprisingly.

        • Blackest Noobs

          i was just what the fuck is wrong with his posture and why does it seem he has no control of that horse; man, that horse must hate that asshole.

          • canes_pugnaces

            I think it’s a long list of humans and beasts that hate that fucker.

        • Daniel

          I have a strange feeling he thinks that’s what’s supposed to happen.

          I think he thinks like Trump- you’re not achieving anything if no one else gets hurt while you do it.

          • canes_pugnaces

            Good point. The horse is pulling at the bit because it’s too tight, and he pushing into the weakest part of the horse’s back.

          • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

            He’s telling the horse with the way he’s using the reins to slow down, but he’s also telling the horse with his legs to go faster. No wonder she’s confused.

    • Roadstergal

      I’m the most dilettantish of dilettantes when it comes to horseback riding, and even I can say “WTF, that poor horse.”

    • johnnyknj

      Yeah, all fucked up, and that little horse is not moving right. Very choppy and likely sore.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Wears the cowboy hat backwards. Carries a sissy gun. Met his wife when she was 15. So many things are wrong with that man.

    • canes_pugnaces
    • Sheepshagger

      He’s more of a pony man really.

      • theCryptofishist

        Yearlings

    • anomie

      Yes!! This!! Thank you. The two times I’ve seen him ride, I can see he’s not seated right, he can’t control the horse, he’s a shitty shitty rider. Horse does not look happy.

    • notaten

      He’s afraid of the horse, the horse knows it, and is just waiting for his chance to fuck this guy up, which makes the judge think he needs to be even more of an asshole to the horse. Cuz he’s an asshole, and a coward, and a very small man.

      • GoutMachine

        I really needed that horse to show him who was boss.

      • Historicat

        (I really can’t post a reply here because it would be against the commenting rules.)

  • Carpe Vagenda
    • Resistor Radio

      Tears, but hopeful ones. I want a framed print of this to hang on my wall.

    • Boscoe

      I love that he depicted himself meditating…

    • SDGeoff3

      Wow. That’s stunning. If I’d ever had a student who came up with that for an assignment, I’d faint.

  • jodo

    What a tragedy Mr Mathis and his daughter believed her homosexuality was something to be cured. And when it couldn’t be, she took her life. Think of the options she would have considered if they both weren’t brainwashed by prejudice brought upon by the worst aspects of religion. It’s why the separation of state and religion cannot be breached.

  • Kakariki

    Truly sad, but at least he learned he was wrong and what a terrible price he and his daughter paid. And he is trying to help others. I have a friend who’s parents never learned, and what they did to him to attempt to “cure” him was far worse.

    His husband describes some of it in this story he wrote:
    http://www.easystreetmag.com/clear/

  • Bitter Scribe

    Some years ago, a lesbian business colleague, whom I liked very much, jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge. She was from Colorado, and her parents were Bible-thumpers who belonged to one of those big-box right-wing megachurches.

    Now, her situation was not exactly analogous to this one. She accepted her homosexuality and made no attempt to hide it, much less be “cured” of it. The cause of her suicide–the proximate cause, in any case–was betrayal, as she perceived it, by a lover.

    But I can’t help believing that the relationship with her family was a contributing factor. The one time I met her mother, the tension between the two of them was palpable.

    After she killed herself, I sent a contribution in her name to her favorite charity, a homeless shelter. I received a very gracious note from the mother thanking me. But I wonder if her parents have any regrets like the ones this poor man is experiencing.

    • Boscoe

      Yeah, it is impossible to overestimate the emotional damage of feeling untethered from any kind of normalcy. When you can’t feel like your family is always there to catch you when you fall, it’s far easier to fall into despair. Poor Patti felt like there was something wrong with her. Something broken. And that idea was planted in her by the people in her immediate environment.

      I can’t even begin to imagine what it must feel like to be made to believe that you are less than human or an abomination to your creator (if you believe in such things). And the fact that religion is often the vehicle for this, just proves my assertion that the universe is made entirely of irony.

  • jodo

    I wish there had been a campaign to write in Nathan Mathis’ name in today’s election.

    • I don’t. Because the only people likely to do that have enough empathy that they’d probably be voting democrat anyway, and we cannot afford to take votes from Jones.

      • GoutMachine

        I’d be content just saying we need more people like Mr. Mathis running for congress.

    • SDGeoff3

      It’s a noble sentiment.

  • yyyaz

    That is how a real man atones. Thank you, Mr. Mathis.

  • OrG

    I wish people didn’t have to learn in such a horrible way.

  • Non-Threatening Ron

    Poor Patti Sue.
    Poor Nathan.
    The people who drove her to this, and who continue to do this to people, are evil. Actually, tangibly evil.

  • Khaleesisdoormat

    :~(
    I feel so sorry for Mr. Mathis, but he has done what fine human beings do when they have made a mistake: they recognize the error of their ways and change. Bless him and his lost daughter who didn’t deserve the hate she got.

  • chiefkurtz

    Should I should feel ashamed that I (and many others here) would mock and ridicule a Moore supporter who would speak the same way as this heartbroken dad (using ‘pervert’, etc not the sentiment)? Is that it’s from a place of unnecessary tragedy that I can’t, or that we consider him objectively in the right NOW?

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      It’s hard to throw off deep-seated beliefs. Plus, as Evan pointed out this was happening in the late 80’s/early 90’s. That’s practically the Dark Ages when it comes to LGBTQ issue awareness, let alone understanding or even tolerance. Even if he could have come around to it, what resources at that time could he have found to help her? Or himself?

      • theblackdog

        This. Evan reminding me that Ellen hadn’t even come out yet clued me in to thinking back on what, if anything I had heard about gay people, and frankly it really was the dark ages. The AIDS crisis was still going on and the first effective drugs to combat it (AZT) had only been approved for a few years so there was still a lot of death and that’s really where many in the country were hearing about gay people.

        Doing a bit of research PFLAG was around, but I don’t know if there would have been any chapters near them, and that might have been the only possible source to help either of them.

        It’s heartbreaking to think how little existed to help and how many people likely ended up with a similar story.

  • SDGeoff3

    Thank you, Evan, for this loving presentation.
    The man had quite an unforgettable encounter with himself, and handled it honestly. When the daughter returned home, he received her with open arms, as his bible teaches him. From the sound of it, he respects doctors, and is intelligent enough to change his mind on a very strong issue within his faith and civic communities.
    I hope he receives an abundance of support and affection from all who can share it. (He may need it.)

    • Resistor Radio

      I hope the evil among us refrain from trolling him.
      (And by “us” I didn’t mean the Wonkette-adjacent. We are a kind people, bringing only hugs and dick jokes)

      • SDGeoff3

        So, we send him just the hugs?

        • Cosmic Owl

          And maybe cookies.

          • SDGeoff3

            Yes. Cookies also too.

          • SeeTrainOffTheRails
          • Dudleydidwrong

            I am baking cookies right this minute (pause while waiting for the dough to chill) and I wish I could send some of them to you all and to folks who have lost children, parents, and friends because of this hatred. We have a transgender granddaughter and love her dearly; I’ll defend her to my own death.

          • SDGeoff3

            I’ll help you. My partner’s grand daughter just introduced us to her trans boyfriend the other day. All is well. He’s very bright and witty, and kind to her.
            We are happy.

          • Dudleydidwrong

            It’s a different world, especially for this 82-year-old, but we’re happy with things; I’m glad you are as well. Mrs. Dudley and I never had any problems with accepting gays and lesbians, and our kids, while straight in their own marriages, have many gay friends and they were always part of our family when they were around.

            I fly the tri-color flag, blue, pink, and white, from the flagpole and gladly explain what it is to those who ask. We’ve come a long way from Stonewall but there are still “miles to go before we sleep.” There are more Moores out there.

            I have one more batch of the present cookies to put in the oven. This will be my fourth cookie experiment in the last couple of weeks; I never make the same thing twice. Some turn out, some…well….

        • Resistor Radio

          In this case, yeah, that’s more appropriate. Yay, more dick jokes for us!

      • redarmyzombie

        But what about canned clams?

        • SDGeoff3

          You MONSTER! It’s cookies, dammit.

        • Resistor Radio

          As many cans as you can fit in your pants pockets!

          • redarmyzombie

            But I’m not wearing any pa…
            Oh.
            I see what you did there.

          • Resistor Radio

            I love it when people see what I did there!

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    A dear young friend of mine back home in the Appalachians came out a few months ago. He will turn 26 this week. He spent 25 years hiding who he is. His Mother, also a friend of mine, and her family, have made his life a living hell ever since. He gets emails, text messages, and voice mails from his own family calling him an abomination. As in, you are an abomination, and you are going to hell, but we love you soooooooo much! They had the pastor of their church harass my friend. He left his Mom’s, and lived out of his car for 2 weeks. A lot of nastiness has gone on. My friend lost his older brother to gun violence a few years ago. It was one of the most tragic, painful events I have ever experienced, and I am only a family friend. Their pain was the most intense and deep hurt I have ever witnessed. My friend is now his Mother’s only living child, and was his Mom’s rock throughout the loss of his brother. He is the kind of son who takes his Mom on fancy vacations she could never afford. He is the kind of son who lived with her much longer than he ever wanted, because he was afraid to leave her alone after his brother died. He took care of her. When he first came out, her terrible reaction surprised me, but I thought she would come around when she realized she only has one living son, and no way is she going to lose the other one to bigotry. So far, I have been wrong. I am not afraid my friend is going to kill himself. He told me he is the happiest he has ever been, even though his heart is torn to pieces by his family’s treatment of him. I am afraid his mother, a woman I formerly admired a great deal, is going to spend the rest of her life in misery by rejecting her living gay son. As wrong as she is, I don’t want this for her, and I sure as hell don’t want it for him. He loves his Mom, but he is not going to go back to living a lie. It will never cease to amaze me the very real and truly precious things people are willing to throw away in the name of religion. It breaks my heart for this man. It breaks my heart for my friends.

    • GoutMachine

      Ugh. Fuck that manipulative “hate the sin” bullshit. You’re an abomination but we luv yew! Bullshit. Gah, fuck that.

      • Roadstergal

        The father in Heathers was a better person than any of them. It was played for laffs, but “I love my gay son!” – yes, that’s exactly what you DO.

        • BearDeLaOursistance

          Committed to celluloid in 1988, no less. Probably gut-punched a few people into doing the right thing by their living kids.

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        • Bitter Scribe

          IIRC, the line was “I love my dead gay son.”
          Followed by Christian Slater whispering to Winona Ryder, “He wouldn’t feel that way about a limp wrist with a pulse.”
          She snickers but is brought up short by a reproachful look from a little girl wearing an oversized varsity jacket, presumably the dead boy’s sister.
          “Heathers” was the most blackly cynical movie I’ve ever seen.

      • TakingAmes

        Yeah, that “we love YOU, but we really hate who you are,” shtick pisses me off.

        • Cosmic Owl

          Gotta accept your children for whom they are.

          It’s called respect.

      • Ninja0980

        Yup.
        You’re still saying there is something wrong with him and that makes the “love” they claim they have for him worthless.

    • Cosmic Owl

      It breaks my heart, as well.

      I lost my son, who died way too young.

      I could not imagine deliberately doing so.

    • Roadstergal

      Your friend is a better person than I could ever be.

      • JohnBull

        Don’t say that. We’re all capable of wonderful things.

    • elviouslyqueer

      I hear this all the time, and it’s heart-wrenching. I just want to shake that mother and say, this is your family. YOU DON’T DO THIS TO FAMILY.

    • Anne Of Green Bagels

      he got out of that toxic environment. good for him.

    • wide_stance_hubby

      I have no in-laws for similar reasons.

    • Lord Jim

      As often as Christians rationalize terrible, unChristian things (like shaming the poor, even though Jesus embraced them), and this woman can’t find a rationale for loving her son and not wishing him pain and misery – even if she can’t quite get past all the violated Bible passages that scaremongers use to condemn LGBT folks? Struggling to respect that. Not making it.

    • anomie

      Incredible story. Thank you for sharing it with us. I don’t know this fellow or his mom but I am holding them in the light, as we Quakers say.

    • BearDeLaOursistance

      So glad to hear that other aspects of his life are keeping him happy. Praying to Divine* that the family gets it together and accepts him, too.

      * Capitalization, and lack of article, intentional.

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      A psychologist has met with controversy for wanting to add “Religious Trauma Syndrome” to the next edition of the DSM. It’s basically a form of PTSD specifically connected to abusive religious practices. It sounds like that’s what has happened to your friend — but also what his mother was put through, to such an extent that her natural instinct would be to lash out at her own son for being “different” than what the rigid, inflexible rules of the cult allow.

      https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/religious-trauma-syndrome-how-some-organized-religion-leads-to-mental-health-problems-2/

      • SpideySenser

        I am totally down with that. Raised Catholic, all that shame and guilt and guilt and shame all piled up on little kids at CCD and Sunday morning masses. I bailed at 14, immediately after confirmation I was done with that shit. Who the hell tells 7 year olds they’re going to hell? Fucking assholes is who.
        My kid was not baptized nor did I ever take her to church. She has thanked me for that. Religion is child abuse and telling your kid to believe in a sky fairy is lying to them. I have no problem with the silliness of the tooth fairy or Santa, kids just wanna have fun.
        Do we enjoy Xmas? Yes, in a pagan way.

    • SadDemInTex

      I’m sorry…this story makes me angry. I wouldn’t spend one single solitary second thinking of this disgusting POS that you somehow still call a friend. I would give my love to the son she hates. She sounds like a classic narcissist.

    • LadyLaz

      He can be my son, or cousin, or nephew.

      Jesus.

      And Jesus never said one word about gay people. Sure said a lot about divorce. I always am tempted to respond: “you are an abomination according to Jesus.”

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        I desperately wanted steal his phone and text his aunt back “Your face is an abomination, but I’ve had the good taste to keep my mouth shut about that all these years.”

  • Cosmic Owl

    You’re right, Evan.

    Now I’m weepy.

    I want to give this dude a bunch of hugs.

  • AnneBonny

    I just can’t help but feel from him that what he truly wants is to keep other people from hurting the way his family has hurt. That he doesn’t know exactly how to do that, but he will do what he can. Not just that he’s atoning for his own sins, but that he understands why people commit those sins, and he wants to help them stop before it’s too late.

    That’s truly moving, and what I always understood being a true Christian to be.

  • TakingAmes

    I’m not crying at my desk. You’re crying at your desk.

    • Cosmic Owl

      My cheeks are wet? YOUR cheeks are wet!

      • Mona

        Shush and gimme a tissue.

    • anomie

      Something in my eye is all.

    • BearDeLaOursistance

      1) cedar cheese
      2) honeycooked ham turkey
      3) THOSE ONIONS WE LIKE

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        Also too, dust and allergies.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      why are you crying at my desk?

    • redarmyzombie

      Today we are all crying at your desk.

      …Wait, let me try that again…

  • Michael Smith

    Malcolm Gladwell did an excellent podcast about a Mennonite preacher whose son was gay and was therefore expelled from the church, and the father’s decision to break with his faith community and support his son.

    http://revisionisthistory.com/episodes/09-generous-orthodoxy

    • kaydenpat

      Good for that father. No faith is worth losing your family.

  • Sheepshagger

    It’s a whole lot easier to keep on being an asshole rather than accepting you were and getting better. You lose all your asshole friends and decent types still loook at you sideways. Brave man.

  • bubbuhh
    • SDGeoff3

      I did. Twenty three years ago. I’m happy every day.

    • Roadstergal

      My smaller dog Mocha looks at me this way.

      I don’t know what I did, but I don’t want to stop doing it.

    • Blackest Noobs

      the Fox and the Fluffy?

    • hudson

      find someone who you look the way this fox looks at this doggo, also too?
      i don’t know which is better. i give up.

      for most days basic common love and respect works, imvho.

    • Jeff Ackerman

      I lived in rural Alaska for years. I had a very large Malemute (160lb) husky that was my kids constant companion. Every morning during the winter there would be a red fox waiting for him to play. I’l let him out and he would chase the fox, then they would play for a half hour or so before the fox went looking for his morning meal.

  • Alienist

    What a heartbreaking story. So many Christians know (intellectually) that they are called to “love your neighbor as yourself” and specifically to “love your enemies.” They rationalize that the hate they spew is a loving warning designed to save the person they are attacking. They have not figured out how to love those that they do not agree with.

    I’m ashamed that the man’s daughter was verbally attacked in her church. I’m a member of the Church of Christ, and I have heard these attacks over the years. It’s nonsensical to think that you can hold out grace and mercy to those who are hurting as you are biting and snarling at them.

    I am also disappointed in the mental health professionals that this man and his daughter consulted. Just because people may have a desire to “cure” homosexuality, it is not the case that this is the only option. There is some data and clinical experience that suggests that at least some people have some fluidity in their sexual preference. I, personally, have only seen it very, very rarely. If a patient wants to pursue efforts to change their sexual preference, they should know that it is difficult and find a reputable mental health professional who is willing to try. Still, if they believe that this is not possible or not desirable for them, there are many mental health professionals who will either help people accept who they are and/or help them bring their behavior in line with their guiding beliefs. To withdraw hope from this young lady was a tragedy. There was opportunity to ease her burden and educate her family.

    This family was let down by their church and by their medical community.

    • hudson

      good use of the word “rationalize” because that is what it is rationalization of their own hate and fear.

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      I think in most cases (or many, at least; I could be wrong about “most”) it’s generally accepted that you are “born that way.” However, I’m kind of on the fence as to whether it should be a choice scientifically-speaking, because we’re not at a point politically where it’s acceptable to be LGBT even by design, let alone as an elective “option.” That said, I don’t hold out a lot of hope for really, really steeped-in authoritarian societies like Chechnya, Saudi Arabia, or Uganda (the latter of which, I know, is largely the fault of USA evangelicals like the odious Scott Lively who ran for governor in Massachusetts and thankfully failed miserably).

      A part of me thinks that science should come up with a way for them to “switch” or “dial” to whatever is acceptable in their culture, because it’s arguably going to be more difficult or impossible to make Chechnya accepting of gay people than it is to make gay people straight. You can’t just airlift the whole of Chechnya to Ontario, or have Canada annex them so that everyone there can march in a Dagestan Pride parade with Justin Trudeau. People are suffering, and will continue to suffer unnecessarily because Putin and whatever his name is, the imam hate-preacher who’s Chechnya’s “provincial premier” or whatever his title is, they hate gay people and have condemned them not just to death but to torture to “set an example.”

      The problem is, however, if science did come up with some sort of Flowers for Algernon method for gay people to become heterosexual, as long as Chechnya remains unaccepting of people who don’t want to change their orientation, they wouldn’t be offered that choice. They’d be forced into it. Like the psikhushkas of the old Soviet era where political dissidents got sent to insane asylums for “sluggish schizophrenia” which was really just a shorthand way of saying “critical of the regime.”

      The paradox, though, is that as cultures become more accepting of people’s differences like sexual orientation, the less likely they are to even want to change them at all, because they don’t necessarily see them as “problems” anymore. So even if science came up with a way for people to go from gay to straight (or vice versa), there’s a good chance few people would, except maybe as a way of “experimenting” for lack of a better word. (Like coloring your hair or getting a temporary tattoo.) At which point, it might become a question of semantics and self-identification: if you’ve ever “gone gay” in your life, is it like the “once you go black, you never go back” stereotype, or drop-of-blood rule (like in how Obama isn’t considered “biracial” in the USA, but blackity black black black because anything “not white” is “not all right”), or would the society allow for a certain degree of flexibility or fluidity? Would the culture allow for a sexual Rumspringa of sorts, if someone decided they wanted to be “gay for a day”?

      I don’t think these answers are cut-and-dry at all, or that even the USA is in a position to think about or talk about these hard questions and have an ongoing conversation. We not only are unaccepting of differences here, especially when it comes to the taboo subject of sexuality — America is embarrassingly hostile even to science in and of itself. I can confirm personally that I was not even allowed to take biology class in school without a parental permission slip. This was at a high school in otherwise progressive Massachusetts. I can’t even begin to imagine how it must be for kids and even adults in places like the Deep South, the Rust Belt, and the arguably worse theocracies in the developing world and our “BFF” Russia.

    • Meccalopolis

      Sad that there wasn’t one sympathetic mental health professional

  • Bright Bart

    that is so sad, and wonderful of that man to come out to the rally and share his experience. i am trying not to cry. :(

    • SDGeoff3

      Oh, let ‘er rip, buddy.

  • FDRliberal
    • IdiokraticKulturKommissar
      • SeeTrainOffTheRails

        He’s sitting on that horse like its a Barcalounger.

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          He has a seat only a sack of potatoes could envy.

    • Sheepshagger

      Also too, don’t take a horse you don’t know into a crowd of strangers with cameras. You might get bucked off and have a hoof scoop all the creamy goodness of your busted skull. And that’d be a real shame.

      • Roadstergal

        A real shame, with votes.

    • cmd resistor

      I feel sorry for the horse. They say he rides that same horse to every election but doesn’t look like he spends much time with her otherwise.

      • Me not sure

        The phrase “Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!” seems entirely appropriate today.

        • GoutMachine

          Yeah, but leave the horse out of it. It’s suffered enough already.

          • Me not sure

            I’ve seldom seen such poor horsemanship.

          • SDGeoff3

            I don’t have a clue about horsemanship. I simply love animals and do not like what he is doing to this poor creature. It’s like he’s trying to drive a stick shift and just cain’t git it.

          • Me not sure

            Excellent analogy. I’m a sucker for a good car analogy.

    • hudson

      imma just going to defer to authority and upvote.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      That poor horse’s mouth must be so full of scars from the way this pedo asshole saws at it that I’m surprised he can eat.

    • Tiffany de Houston

      I’m so glad someone said that.

    • psychobroad

      There’s a whole long tweet thread about what a bad rider he is. And the horse is way too small for him!

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch…

    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/940701037006065666

  • Resistor Radio

    OT: good lord, I did not need to hear Chuck Todd say “ooooo you got the tingle…”

  • Sheepshagger
  • altleftjohn
    • SDGeoff3

      You, dear friend, have elegant taste.

      • altleftjohn

        * bows deeply *

  • shivaskeeper

    Mr Mathis, you have earned my respect. You could have stayed mired in ignorance. You did not. You could have stayed quiet, kept your grief and your part in it to yourself. You did not. You could have stayed on the sidelines and watched other families make the same mistakes you did and suffer their own grief. It would have been so easy. You don’t know them, and you don’t owe them anything. You did not do that.

    I salute you, sir.

    • ((( Augustus )))

      it takes a hell of a lot of character and constitution to publicly admit wrong doing and to share such a painful story

      this dude would be 1,000 times the president Donny Trumpleskin is

      • shivaskeeper

        He’s not just admitting to wrongdoing though. He is admitting to playing a small part in his own daughter taking her life. He is not only publicly showing his grief, he is publicly showing his guilt and trying to atone for it . That takes far more character and constitution than just admitting wrong doing.

        Like Evan said, if redemption is possible, this guy is on his way to earning it.

  • cmd resistor

    Oh, dear, just finally watched the actual video.

    • SDGeoff3

      Same here. I’m wrecked.

  • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

    I have a much more important question – no offense to this man, and all the uffering of homosexuals in that environment.

    Who the actual fuck hangs a crystal chandelier in a barn?

    • Sheepshagger

      Down home Liberace?

      • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

        Congratulations on the alacrity with which you have found the only sane answer.

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        “Wladziu” in a Southern accent. Trying to imagine. Can’t.

        Though an okra / popcorn chicken pierogi would be delicious.

    • Resistor Radio

      I’m ordering a chandelier for my barn. I can’t believe I hadn’t thought of it before. Game changer.

  • ((( Augustus )))

    There has to be room for redemption.

    AMEN

    we all fuck up every now and then, that’s what being human is all about

    sack the fuck up and be a man, admit you fucked up, and do what you can to make it right

    the problem is these fucking assholes aren’t even trying in good faith, they’re beginning from a place of dishonesty and vitriol, quitting before the work is done, or even half done, then blaming their mistakes on someone without the power or resources to fight back

    FUCK THESE COWARDS

    ETA: obviously I don’t mean this guy, he is clearly doing the best he knows how

  • Squeegee

    I am a member of extended family known by our progenitor’s surname as the “Blue Fugates” in Eastern Kentucky where a lot of family members have deep blue skin because of an aberrant gene that was carried on through generations through cousins marrying cousins.

    I was born with deep blue skin so were one of my brothers (the gay one who was bullied) and one of my sisters we were bluer than smurfs growing up and still are.

    I wasn’t bullied in high school for THAT because people were familiar with it from our part of Kentucky but now that I live in New York City my co workers make fun of me now for being blue when everyone is black or white or brown and it makes me sad sometimes to think even adults can bully

    You can read more about our family tree and how many of us are blue as the ocean here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Fugates

    • Meccalopolis

      I think it’s cool

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      Wow! I never heard of the Blue Fugates before, but you learn something new every day here at Wonkette. See, this is why America needs to get over their backwards insistence on viewing the world in the “black-and-white” dogma of supposedly infallible religion. There’s a lot more to “creation” or “nature” or whatever you want to call it, that if we were more embracing of science, we’d be able to see past or be more accepting of differences. Blue people, and those of a veritable rainbow gamut of gender and sexual orientation. Sorry to hear that even NYC isn’t tolerant towards you, despite having a reputation as “liberal.” Education and awareness is the only remedy for ignorance, and we definitely need more of it.

    • LadyLaz

      Wow.

  • OneYieldRegular

    I plan to write to Mr. Mathis. My beautiful, Southern, lesbian sister killed herself after decades of trying to make it in the South under the socially acceptable atmosphere Mr. Mathis so perfectly describes. Those who bullied and beat her were the least of it; she always insisted that it was those close to her who blithely commented on her “difference,” her “lack of femininity,” her “needing to just move on and live like normal people” who did the most damage. The ones who casually dropped homophobic remarks. The Roy Moore-like civic and religious “leaders” who preached so-called Christian values while condemning her and others like her. And she had a steady diet of that for decades. So thank you, Mr. Mathis, for myself, for my sister, for all the young people whose lives you may have just saved by speaking out.

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      Wow. So sorry to hear that about your sister. If you do get in touch with Mr. Mathis, I’m sure he’d love to hear your story. Strength in numbers and solidarity is how we grow our “chosen” families of caring supporters. Family is more than simple biological connection. What really matters is the emotional ties.

      This might be the next outgrowth of a cathartic #MeToo movement and I hope you are able to find healing in sharing your sister’s memory with the world.

    • redarmyzombie

      I’m so sorry to hear this. I hope no one else has to go through what your sister and you had to.

    • Alexis Rook

      I know I nearly drank myself to death over it.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        Hugs. Glad you survived.

  • Not So Much

    This poor, plainspoken man. I just want to shake his hand. Way to walk the walk, Sir.

    • Aunt PithyPat

      That’s the part that got me crying, too…. he didn’t emote all over the page. He wrote the way he speaks probably, and it broke my fckn heart in pieces.

      • for me it was: ‘i am grateful for having her as my daughter’.

        god.

  • Michael R

    We all knew this when he said it …

    ” Trump’s Tuesday morning assertion that media are touting accusations by women he “[doesn’t] know and/or have never met” is an easily-demonstrable lie — there are records of him interacting with at least 17 of the 20 accusers. “

    • SDGeoff3

      Good.

  • redarmyzombie

    What this man has gone through just makes me want to cry, and he’s a goddamn hero in my eyes. Not just for seeing his wrongs and trying to do right by keeping others from making his same mistakes; that itself would be enough. But he’s also a hero because, looking at that video, he’s the only one out there, doing this all by himself. That takes fucking courage.

    • BeachLoafer

      I want to upvote this a lot more than I’m allowed to

  • mardam422

    Bless that man.

  • gallbladder

    If he imbibes, I’ll buy him whatever he’s drinking.

    • SDGeoff3

      Me too, and I want to spend some time with him while we do it.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        All I want to do is give him a hug.

        • psychobroad

          Me too.

        • DT

          My eyes just will not stop leaking!

          • sgt. jmk of the résistance

            IKR? Damned onion ninjas…

  • guest1331now

    Rather OT, but this is an example of why I keep saying that ‘redneck’ is not a useful term of disapprobation, any more than ‘farmer’ or ‘hard-working person’.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      Quite a lot of farmers I know are proud to be a “Redneck” – they boast about it, because it means they are out on their farms every day in every kind of weather, growing or raising food for the rest of us to eat. They have a very low opinion of people who make money off the labor of others without laboring themselves.

    • pb_&_sauerkraut

      There’s “rednecks” and there’s “good old boys”. This old lezzie gets along with rednecks just fine, and I don’t use it as a slur. They don’t blow up my skirt, and I don’t blow up theirs. Good old boys try to make everyone fit into their view of the world. That does not work for me.

    • ChumpsForTrump

      I prefer “bumpkin” myself :)

    • LadyLaz

      I always learned the true southern insult was “white trash.”

      • psychobroad

        It is. Poor white trash is even better, in terms of being insulting. But, as Dump has made abundantly clear, you can be white trash while being (allegedly) rich.

  • Jonny On Maui

    There has to be room for redemption.

    I have faith that this is true.

    • SDGeoff3

      The video is proof positive, imho. That is a changed human being.

    • phoenix00

      It’s a Roman Catholic thing. Albeit abused frequently.

      • Hesavebread!

        In a theological sense yes, in a broader sense even us atheists can atone for our actions.

        • phoenix00

          Oh nothing is stopping anyone from atoning, just that I find Catholics are particularly fond of it, thinking it’s an excuse for being an a-hole.

          Then it repeats every Sunday.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    I just read a few days ago that some scientists think they might have identified the “gay gene.”
    Putative Gay Genes Identified, Questioned
    https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/51120/title/Putative-Gay-Genes-Identified–Questioned/

    I just wish they would identify the asshole gene. Then all managers would have to take a DNA test and tell all prospective employees if they have it. This would have saved me a lot of grief in my career.

    • ChumpsForTrump

      I wonder if Bible thumpers would be ok with having an abortion, if their future kid had the gay gene?

      • Angela Ruzzo

        That is a very significant question. I suppose that only time will tell. Just as important, if stem cell researchers discovered a way to change the gay gene using stem cells, would Bible thumpers suddenly start supporting stem cell research?

        • Captain Kraut

          Their rich puppet masters will certainly boost their progeny, so I wouldn’t expect that to be too much of a problem.

    • phoenix00

      That’s not a gene, that’s trained and conditioned through parental ignorance, bleatings delivered every Sabbath day, and Fox News.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I’m not so sure…you never met my cousin Gene. He came into this world an asshole, and he let his assholiness shine out for all to see every day of his life, which has lasted much too long if you ask me.

        • Impatient

          My Cousin Gene. I never have watched the whole movie. (Thanks for my morning laugh.)

        • phoenix00

          I’ll still assert he picked it up somewhere, even if he was beaten and abused on the way home from the hospital after he was born.

  • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB
  • Kooolest G

    as the father of a 7 year old boy who loves ballet and all of his friends are girls, I thank god that I live in hipsterville CA where he will always be surrounded by people who love him for who he is, instead of living in some shithole full of people like roy moore. I give this guy all the credit in the world for being open to change instead of just blaming his daughter’s death on the “homosexual demons inside her” and continuing the cycle of stupid

    • MC Planck

      My 25 year old nephew grew up gay in Florida. He said his classmates just didn’t care.

      It is getting better.

  • Mike Steele

    That man truly will break your heart, as he painfully breaks through his own bonds of ignorance and hatred to learn the true meaning of grace. So pitiful that his epiphany came too late for him/Patti Sue, but it is nothing short of miraculous that he has found the courage to offer others a clear path. May you find peace, Mr. Mathis.

    • NotALiar

      In his letter he wrote that he had apologized to Patti for the things he’d said. I was so glad to read that.

    • what a beautiful tribute.

  • LadyLaz

    Just….

    Jesus Fucking Christ.

    I will say this, for the littlest bit it is worth. I live in an exburb of Atlanta. Twenty years ago, it was the boone docks. This Sunday, while walking through the local Wally world, I saw a lesbian couple walking hand in hand.

    No one was staring.

    Except me, and I had a stupid smile on my face. This is changing, I promise, even down heeahhh.

    I will also thank my two friends who came out to me in college in the nineties. I was completely harmless of course, and very positive. But I never realized the type of push-back they must have gotten from their family, or the great compliment they were paying me by being willing to tell me.

  • LadyLaz

    Oh, and OMG, I thought “prevert” was a mispronunciation that lived in just in my family with “roined” for ruined. I guess not.

    • DT

      OMG my dad says “rulened” and I want to fucking claw out my eardrums.

  • Tiffany de Houston

    Who’s chopping up onions in here?

    • JustDon’tSayProbably

      Onion ninjas. They’re everywhere.

      • Bobathonic

        I thought I escaped them by skipping the video as we do, but NOOOO, there’s his letter.

        • The letter had more ninjas than the video, honestly.

          • Bobathonic

            The bastards!

  • vermonter9

    Im crying.That breaks my heart as a parent.

  • pgjack

    Homophobia is stupid. If you are afraid of homosexuals or hate them or believe they are less than human you are stupid. Well, maybe ignorant but it’s hard to believe that in todays world with so many successful, kind and inspiring homosexuals in public life that a person could really be ignorant of the reality that other than sexual preference homosexuals are no different than heterosexuals. So I have to come back to stupid as the correct term for homophobes.

  • BeachLoafer

    I saw this news earlier today and I swear, as a father, tears well up just to think of it.

    I was far too close to losing my daughter over an altogether too-nearly-fatal car accident several years ago, and I can’t even imagine his anguish.

    I am still haunted, years later, by sitting by my daughter’s hospital bed, not knowing if she would live or die, by every single thing I had ever said to her that I regretted.

    This man has come to recognize the error of his ways by the most painful route conceivable, and I can only offer him all the sympathy and support I can muster – there is nothing, NOTHING, more powerful than the reckoning that occurs over the mortality of your child. Despite what I went through, I can’t begin to imagine what he deals with every single fucking day, and I commend him for seeing through the backward bullshit that condemned his daughter and calling it what it is.

    You may call him out on believing the local cultural/religious nonsense in the first place, but coming to grips with this horrible progression of events, and speaking out about it, is what a real American (and a real father) looks like – we all make mistakes, only the ones who don’t acknowledge them (*cough* Trump *cough*) deserve our disdain.

  • Scrofula

    Teen girl likes teen girl: burn in hellfire for eternity
    Grown man likes teen girl: get elected senator
    Seriously, fuck these rubes already.

  • Nathan Mathis for the US Senate.

  • Delu

    Did it take his daughters death to change his own anti-Gay views? He said that he also said hurtful things to her. Technically speaking, when he was anti-Gay, he and Roy Moore were in the same boat.

    I’m glad he sees things differently now. But his account highlights an issue that is farther reaching than Roy Moore, and that is the Christian Extremism that he represents.

    Alabama has that problem, Nathan Mathis has, even if inadvertently, shown that Alabama truly does have that problem through his account. This needs to be taken note of. Roy Moore is not the only Christian Extremist in a position of power over there, and he won’t be the last to make a push for elections either.

    • phoenix00

      The real tragedy is that it took the life of his flesh and blood for him to see his own and the institutions he holds dear’s error.

  • NotALiar

    My heart absolutely aches for Mr. Mathis. It takes guts to stand outside of a polling place in rural Alabama and deliver his message. That was a video of a truly broken hearted and genuinely remorseful man. I hope he finds peace.

  • BreakingDeadMen

    That guy made me choke up, and I only cry when pets die.

  • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

    As we so often see, conservatives who change their views on lgbt issues do not change until the issue affects their own family. Part of this mindset is ingrained, but a lot of it is due to a dearth of information. Unfortunately for too many of these people they don’t get the information until, as for this poor dad, it is too late. the radical conservative takeover of the media is largely to blame.

  • psychobroad

    Both the video and the letter made me cry. And God bless Dad, who was able to change his mind because of love for his daughter. <3 I normally give short shrift to people who change position only because something affects them, but southern Baptist/fundamentalists have been known to throw their gay or trans kids overboard rather than offend their vengeful God. Love to you, Dad!

  • SkinlessGenderlessMan

    I just want to go sit with Mr. Mathis, listen to him, and care. I care anonymously at a distance, but in person would be better.

  • Margaret Lamont

    Brave man. R.I.P Patti Mathis.

  • David Roosa

    maybe there is hope after all

  • Zyxomma

    No, it wasn’t that difficult. Alabama elected Jones.

    • phoenix00

      It was more difficult than it had any right or ought to be.

    • little miss high and mighty

      and crinkly Steve and poop-lip Donny sure helped

  • DT

    Well that’s a fucking ugly cry.
    “We want to hug Mr. Mathis right now.”
    Fucking back of the line, pal.

  • Stranded Devonian Lungfish

    I hope Alabama’s repudiation of Moore brought you some peace tonight, Mr. Mathis.

  • hvdv

    OMG THIS MAN. I love him. He is the bravest. For standing up, and for recognizing his own mistakes. If I could still cry, I would.

  • tex7

    I am balling my eyes out.

  • persistently_resistant_gayby

    God, this video is making me very emotional in the office, and I’ve still got 50 mins to go for my work to end.

    This is what hits me home. The pain that people like Moore caused by calling us all perverts and deviants. I spent my teenage years in complete denial, fully believing I was an animal for being gay. I fully believed that my life wouldn’t be worth it for who I am, and it affected me deeply.

    Tonight is a small vindication against horrible monsters like him. And I’m grateful for the people who stood on the right side of history.

  • netanil

    What would Jesus do?
    Punch Roy Moore right in the face.

    • little miss high and mighty

      well, with His other cheek, maybe.

  • I started sobbing when I first saw this video. This man touches my heart. He speaks out for his daughter even though he’s obviously nervous. I grew up about an hour from Mr. Mathis, so I know how brave he is to stand out there with his sign, standing up for gay people in rural south Alabama.

    My favorite quote is “It won’t be the first time I’ve done something to no avail, OK?” Truth! Sometimes you just have to do what you know is right even if you don’t know what the outcome will be. I hope he was gratified by the outcome tonight.

    Thanks for posting the letter. I hadn’t see that. My heart goes out to this kind and courageous man.

  • Michael Lindsay

    Wish I could give him a bear hug, brave fella!

    • Rickyphoo

      He is indeed brave. Brave to admit he screwed up with his daughter and by extension all Gays, and brave to stand in front of a Ray Moore rally to confront Moore supporters. I can only image the shit he had to endure from those idiots.

  • Espadron

    “Ripples in water” my mother would to say. This is what courage is.

    • SKruetheratbassedarDs

      Your Mother was right on. Here’s how one great American put it, over 50 years ago now, exactly two years before an idiot with a gun ended his life: “It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.”

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  • beatbort

    I just sent Mr. Mathis a personal note of thanks. His daughter would be very proud of her dad today.
    His address is: 3409 Grandeur Drive, Dothan, AL 36303,
    if anyone else feels so moved.

    • Brian Ragle

      I am sending him a Christmas card and personal letter.

  • empf

    This breaks my heart. Thanks for sharing his address.

  • Squeegee

    Apparently this guy build a large man made lake in his hometown and stocked it with fish so people in the town had a recreational area to enjoy for boating and fishing and sunbathing and he even set it up so it was self sustaining and people paid a fee for fishing to maintain it.

    He named the lake after his daughter.

    It is really sad I think a lot of the time when kids are struggling with being gay and already have other mental health issues the risk of suicide is even greater.

  • Kip TW

    Don’t worry. I’m not here to find fault with this man. It hurts to much to read his story and think about how much he wishes he could change the past. I hope he finds some peace and closure, and I hope his story reached some of those voters. Even one.

  • Brian Ragle

    I cannot imagine the pain this man carries with him to this day. I hope he finds the peace and forgiveness I think he is still seeking. This story breaks my heart and drives home just how utterly depraved people like Moore can be who not only prey on the innocent and young, but would also mentally scar them as monsters if they were born different.

  • Elizabeth Detrich

    Regret, unfortunately, is one of life’s best teachers.
    How very heartbreaking, I am so sorry for his loss.

  • Tom Piper

    I grew up in a rural area near this guy and met him about 40 years ago when he was running for office. Thankfully I moved far away not long after but I’m sorry to hear about his daughter.

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