We won't, we promise.

Why the hell is the Michigan Democratic Party down with Rick Snyder’s plan to hold John Conyers’s seat open for 11 whole months? We get why the Republican governor wants to deny representation to the Democratic residents of Detroit — and we’re sure that Paul Ryan was thrilled to unwrap that early Christmas present. But why are Michigan Democrats going along with him? Can they really be craven enough to deprive 700,000 people of Congressional representation just to leave the field open for one of their own to take the seat? Because it sure looks like it! And while we’re all in agreement that Democrats need to start playing dirty, this is not what we had in mind.

John Conyers resigned less than halfway through his term after being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women. Conyers did a lot of great things in his five decades in Congress, but didn’t exactly cover himself in glory on the way out the door. Despite having no relevant political experience and a prior domestic violence arrest, Conyers endorsed his son John Conyers III to take over for him. At the same time, his nephew Ian Conyers, a state senator, is also claiming the endorsement, exacerbating the appearance of a dynastic sense of entitlement to the seat. Not a good look!

Let’s slow-walk through the stupid here. If it seems so implausibly ridiculous that your head starts to hurt, you’ve probably understood correctly. As of today, residents in most of Detroit and parts of Wayne county have no Congressman. On August 7, they will cast a vote in the special election primary to fill Conyers’s seat. They will ALSO cast a vote in the regularly scheduled primary for the same seat. On November 6, they will again cast two votes. The winner of the special election will be sworn in, just in time for Thanksgiving and Christmas recess. The winner of the general election will be sworn in for a full term on January 3, 2019.

Effectively, Conyers’s seat will remain vacant for the rest of his term. Here, let Governor Snyder ‘splain to you why this really is just great, via Detroit News.

“Having ample time for candidates to make a decision about running for office and file their paperwork gives people more options as to who will next represent them in Congress,” Snyder said in a statement.

“In order to allow several months for that to take place and to reduce the financial burden on local taxpayers, the primary and general elections will be held when regularly scheduled elections are already occurring.”

He’s just doing it as a favor to Democrats, see? So they have time to get their ducks in order.

And we get why Snyder thinks this is a wonderful plan. Not only does it decrease the margin House Republicans need to ram through their rape’n’pillage legislation, it deprives Michigan Democrats of a national voice on the ongoing water crisis in Flint. And it’s a final Fuck You to John Conyers, who slammed Snyder for poisoning the water in Flint and said the Governor should be arrested. (WHICH HE SHOULD.)

Snyder claims to have consulted officials in Wayne County and Detroit before setting the election date for the potentially crowded primary.

Jonathan Kinloch, who chairs the Democratic Party in the 13th District, wanted Snyder to set the special election to coincide with the regularly scheduled election dates in August and November, even though it leaves the seat vacant for months.

He said the district offices remain open to serve constituents in the meantime.

“This seat only becomes available once every 50 years,” Kinloch said this week. “We all know that in those special elections that are called outside the normal election cycle that voter turnout is less.”

WTF??? Michigan voters should have no voice in Congress for almost a year to avoid a low-turnout special election? The district office is a substitute for Congressional representation? Is there something special about “this seat” that entitles the holder to a 50-year term? FFS, they’ll be lucky if the seat exists at all after the 2020 census when Michigan is likely to lose one of its congressional districts.

Goddamit, Democrats! Rick Snyder is a scorpion, of course he bit you. But you didn’t have to bend over and offer up your ass for a stinging. It’s pathetic!

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[Detroit News / WaPo]

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  • Dept. of Space Tacos


  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

    Damn that oven mitt shaped state.

  • ManchuCandidate

    I am not a member of any organized political party. I’m a Democrat.

    • proudgrampa

      Twain, If I recall correctly.

      • Daniel

        Will Rogers.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          The rumors of Twain saying that are greatly exaggerated.

          • Arolpin

            But the rumors of his death turned out to be true, just slightly later than originally reported.

        • proudgrampa

          Well, there you go.

          Haven’t had my morning martini, yet.

  • Michael R

    Democracy relies on people not acting like scum for it to work .
    Good luck with that .

  • Anna Rompage

    “but didn’t exactly cover himself in glory on the way out the door”

    No, from the sounds of it, he covered multiple unwilling participants in his glory, when they were on their way out the door…

    • proudgrampa

      He stepped out of a glory hole.

  • La forza del resistino

    Someone needs to tell Rick Snyder that Neil Gorsuch is already spoken for.

    • Anna Rompage

      It’s okay, the RNC has a bunch of test tube raised Gorsuchs read to go….

      • Christopher Story

        I knew it. Republicans are all Illuminati lizard people chimera clones! That explains their cold-blooded tax bill.

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    Delay, deny, defenestrate, democracy.

    • proudgrampa

      Now that’s some alliteration, right there.

      • Bad Tom

        Also some fine alienation.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    OT: uhhhhh
    Trump group sends 12-year-old girl to interview Roy Moore

    A political group backing President Donald Trump has sent a 12-year-old girl to interview embattled Alabama Republican Senate contender Roy Moore.

    The America First Project published a video Sunday that showed Millie March—who rose to fame at the age of 11 during the 2016 election due to her support for Donald Trump—interviewing Moore as part of his campaign for election in Alabama.

  • MynameisBlarney

    If a Democratic gov tried this shit with a GOP seat…

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      The phrase “screaming like a stuck pig” just popped up in my mind.

  • Covfefe’s Evil Twin

    I have a lot of respect for Pelosi, but shouldn’t this little detail have been worked out BEFORE Conyers was frogmarched out of D.C.?

    • Bill D. Burger

      Were Conyers a Republican, he would simply have denied it and Kevin McCarthy (and Paul Ryan) would has stated that they were “…very concerned.” and NOT A FUCKING THING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED and the Rep. would still be seated.

      • Yep, and that’s why evil will always triumph, because good is dumb. Dark Helmet was truly a prophet.

    • everstar

      Worked out how?

      • Covfefe’s Evil Twin

        Pelosi should have known exactly how the succession and special election would be handled. Maybe she did and this was the best she could cobble together, but I’d expect better from her

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    Can we not lead with our chin for a change?

    • MynameisBlarney

      Nonsense, by now we’ve gotten really damn good at blocking every punch with our face while our hands are still in our pockets.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Why do you think McConnell is the Majority Leader? The GOP despises chins.

      • Institute For Applied Despair

        “We strive to build a chin-free work environment”

  • TJ Barke

    And again, we pay for our morality with ratfucking.

    • MynameisBlarney

      It’s not like this is a new trick from the GOP.
      Yet we continue to let it work.

  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    I have no fucking idea, but I’m way up here in Northern Michigan, which is really a separate state….

  • Machnethylsteinerbincolabird

    Wonkette, how long you gonna keep running that T-shirt ad that looks exactly like an ad for a porn site? Don’t you want people to read you at work?

    • MynameisBlarney

      Say what now?
      I’ve been here for a while now, and I got no idea which ad you’re referring to.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        my guess is this one – I fold my laoptop down at work because its TOO convincing…

        • MynameisBlarney

          I’ve never seen an ad for pr0ns that looked like that.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            girls gone wild videos…uh, so I’m told.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Oh yeah, I remember those.
            From like a kajillion years ago.
            Didn’t that douchebro that made those end up in jail or something?

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            i remember he had some legal trouble – some was IRS, and a few were underage girls in his videos .

        • tomamitai

          Once you go Wonk you never go….bonk your conch with a Tronc?

      • TJ Barke

        He’s talking about the Lucy Lawless cowgirl POV pic, I think.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Dammit, now I’m never gonna be able to not see it that way.

    • tomamitai

      There are no ads or comments on this site, so you are imagining it and we are imagining each other.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Look, it’s either ads like that or sending out the shakedown team.

      • Institute For Applied Despair

        Hey! That’s a left-handed Rickenbacker bass she’s got there!

    • Daniel

      I am genuinely curious which ad you think looks exactly like an ad for a porn site.
      I am also genuinely curious about what you define as porn.

    • Oblios_Cap

      She looks wholesome and has a nice smile, so I vote to keep the ad.

    • kareemachan

      Huh. One comment and no follow-up.

      Can anybody say trollette?

    • Nockular cavity

      Where’s “work?” Saudi Arabia?

    • Wilbur T

      You’re looking at the wrong porn sites.

    • Ωbjectifier
  • Shibusa

    I always wondered why Gov. Snyder managed to duck all criminal liability in the Flint water disaster. I mean, the AG charged the heads of the Michigan HHS; the state’s chief medical officer, and the Flint emergency manager… But Rick is still pure and clean as the driven snow?

    • tomamitai

      …pure and clean as the Flint water supply. FTFY

    • calliecallie

      It’s not over yet. The AG and Snyder’s Lt. Governor are both running for his office. They will square off in the aforementioned August primary. If the AG’s going to bring charges against Snyder, my money is on July.

  • Anne Of Green Bagels

    I want a new electorate. one with a fully functioning brain if possible.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      speaking of which:

      The video shows three Trump supporters, one man and two women, being confronted by a Palestinian-American woman, teenage boy and young girl on a street in California.

      “You called my 5-year-old cousin a terrorist,” the Palestinian-American woman, Rawan, says.

      “Looks like one,” the man, who has been identified as Johnny Turano, responds in the video. “It doesn’t matter what age you are.”

      “You’re calling a 5-year-old a terrorist,” Rawan remarks.

      “But this is America, we can say whatever we want,” interjects Turano’s daughter, Bianca. “Freedom of speech.”

      Rawan, who recorded the incident, told Raw Story the confrontation occurred in Los Angeles on Sunday.

      Bianca can be seen taking her own video in Rawan’s recording — and that video was soon uncovered and shared online.

      “You guys are terrorists, get out of here,” Bianca can be heard saying, as Johnny tells them to suck his dick.

      “If you hate America so much leave,” Bianca tells them.

      “I don’t hate America — I just hate [inaudible] f*cks like you,” the boy yells back.

      Bianca’s video also shows the Trump supporters accosting other passersby. “You can suck my dick!” Johnny yells.

      Johnny, who goes by the nickname “Based Spartan,” told the Vanguard earlier this year that he regretted becoming involved in the so-called “alt right” movement after he began noticing his comrades were brandishing swastikas.

      • mancityRed6

        *rage growing*

        • Institute For Applied Despair

          My rage tumor is just about ready for its First Communion.

      • Anne Of Green Bagels

        economic anxiety on full display.

      • Institute For Applied Despair

        Johnny, who goes by the name Debased Spartan.

        • therblig

          Used Trojan?

      • OneYieldRegular

        Maybe it’s the same Johnny who was threatening Evan.

      • “Based” is right up there with “cuck” on the list of “words which clearly identify the speaker as someone to be ignored and/or ridiculed.”

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        He probably won’t get that promotion at Carl’s Jr. now. This video could kill his career.

    • Impatient

      I might settle to elections being made available to the ACTUAL electorate.

  • JohnBull

    Are Detroiters really Americans, anyway? Snyder clearly says no.

    • TakingAmes

      Well, they are *looks around, lowers voice dramatically* black.

  • Marion in Savannah

    OT, but about an election…

    The NYT has a story up about how “Liberal Outsiders” are pouring into Alabama to GOTV. It includes this gem of a paragraph:

    With only hours until the polls open on Tuesday in this unlikeliest of battleground states, Democrats are deploying a sprawling, multimillion-dollar get-out-the-vote operation in an effort to steal away a Senate seat and reduce the Republican majority to a single vote.

    Note the throw-away use of the word “steal.” Way to report shit, NYT.

    • mancityRed6

      but, they’re the liberal media. and fake news.

    • Edith Prickly

      Since when do seats belong to a particular party? One wins seats. Your “liberal” media at work…

      • Heather

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    • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

      These fucks are too stupid to tell “reinforcing white privilege” from “presenting a balanced perspective”.

      But, sure, let’s go with the “outside agitators” meme. I bet that the SNCC would have gotten the same magisterial treatment.

      • Institute For Applied Despair

        ‘News, For and About the Rich’.

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        No, they aren’t stupid, they think we are.

    • ArgieBargie

      Breitbart headline: NYT admits to Liberal plot to STEAL Roy Moore’s seat.

      • Sub header: Are the Jews and Feminazis to blame?

        • Riley Whodat Venable

          It could be those Harlem agitators stirring up the contented folks on the Plantation.

    • proudgrampa

      Fuck those guys.

      The only thing I read now is the New York Times Book Review.

      The rest is shit.

      • Institute For Applied Despair

        Blow doesn’t blow. That’s about it.

        • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

          I keep forgetting he works there

          • Institute For Applied Despair

            I’m going to guess he occasionally wishes to do so as well.

        • Truthiness2U

          Paul Krugman libel! Really, Paul is great.

          • Institute For Applied Despair

            You’re right about that. He’s consistently trenchant. I tend to overgeneralize my disgust for NYT.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      meanwhile trump’s “interference” int he process was just politics, I assume?

    • Tiffany de Houston

      That article has my head about to explode! Jeebus!

    • SeeTrainOffTheRails

      Just an unfortunately mistaken use of the word, I’m sure.

      I’ll ask Maggie Haberman. I’m sure she’ll sort it all out.

    • Perkniticky

      Because Alabamans belong to Republicans. Kinda like the slavery Moore loves so much.

    • AmazingProfessionalCrastinator

      Just like those other damned liberal outsiders in the 1960’s.

  • Institute For Applied Despair

    What a dependably lawless bunch of shitfucks.

  • onedollarjuana

    Well, Michiganders elected that asshole, so they get what they voted for, good and hard, and with a lead pipe.

    • TJ Barke

      Won’t someone think of the Michigoslings?

      • therblig

        or the mishigoss?

        • Non-Threatening Ron


    • schmannity


    • Institute For Applied Despair

      It’s a lead-pipe cinch.

    • JohnBull

      Snyder. With a lead pipe. In the ballroom.

      • calliecallie

        In the bathroom. No running water in the ballroom.

  • schmannity

    Fox News is reporting a new poll showing Doug Jones up by 10 points among likely voters. Why does Fox hate America?

    • Institute For Applied Despair


    • proudgrampa

      Yup… I see what they’re doing there! Trying to lull people into staying home tomorrow!

      Those bastards.

      • schmannity

        Or goose up panic among the Pedophilistines

        • MynameisBlarney

          Why not both?

          • proudgrampa


      • Msgr_MΩment

        At least they didn’t say that the Democrats are to vote the following Tuesday.

    • BigCSouthside

      That smells like “market manipulation” to me

  • BadKitty904

    OK, Michigan voters/taxpayers! What are y’all going to do about this Republican bullshittery?

    • Institute For Applied Despair

      There is some crap up with which we will definitely put.

      • BadKitty904

        Will? Or will not?

        • Institute For Applied Despair

          I forgot to include ‘always’ after ‘will’. We regret the error.

    • OutOfOrbit

      *collective shrug*

      until something trips some looney toons like the righties do … just sayin

  • OneYieldRegular

    “…gives people more options… reduce[s] the financial burden”

    Christ, why does this sound almost exactly like a junk mail promotion from Comcast that will result in my paying more for Internet service?

    • It was probably written by the same people. Everyone has a writing style.

  • Oblios_Cap

    Do the Michigan Dems look to the New York Assembly when they need role models?

    • Captain Kraut

      Illinois libelz!!1!

  • SayItWithWookies

    Frankly I’m wondering why Snyder didn’t appoint some rich white Republican to fill the seat.

    • Bananas Foster

      He can’t. By law there has to be a special election.

      • JohnBull

        I’d bet anything they’re looking for a way to change the law.

  • mancityRed6

    and Merrick Garland says “huh.”

  • RickyG

    “Purity before Party!”
    aw fuckit all.

    • OutOfOrbit

      that’s what i hear

    • mancityRed6

      give me tax cuts for the rich or give me…doritos nachos. whichever.

  • Crystalclear12

    Now we are actually loading the guns for the other side?

    • theblackdog

      Sort of like when the NC Dems raised money for the NC GOP office that got torched?

  • Last Hussar

    Your political system makes ours look reasonable, and that is the system that made Brexit possible.

    • Daniel

      And that involves tights, wigs and furs as a requirement.

      • Non-Threatening Ron

        Another reason to love it.

      • everstar

        Yes, but you also have the lovely moment when the Black Rod comes to summon the House of Commons and they slam the door (ceremonially) in his face. I can’t decide what my favorite thing about that is: that someone did it in the first place, or that they kept doing it. (I also love the ceremonial door damage. Over here they’d put a steel plate on the door.)

  • reelreeler

    Question for fellow progressive/democrats..Without looking it up, can you name your state legislature representative and state legislature senator? Seems to me that many democrats only show up and care about general elections (if that), and then do not show up to vote in smaller elections. This is a huge f-d up situation in Michigan, but the same thing can happen in any state. State legislatures are where congressional district boundaries are mapped too. Remember that Republicans show up and vote in EVERY election, and if we are tired of being kicked around, we’d better get registered and do the same.

    • OutOfOrbit

      i can!

      *waves hand frantically*

    • mancityRed6

      I’m in Kansas, so I know they’re (R)s.

    • Ellie

      Yes. State Assembly: Sean Ryan D and Senate: Chris Jacobs R (not my choice). Doesn’t everyone know this??

    • Crystalclear12

      Yeah, I can.
      Now I need a drink.

      You’re not wrong though.

    • theblackdog

      I can, but trying to name which district number I’m in is always tricky.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      Senator yes, Assemblyperson I had to look up. I vote the straight ticket now that the Working Families party is in bed with Mike Bloomberg.

    • TakingAmes

      Yes, but then again, I’m always giving my fellow voters civics lessons in line to vote.

    • SeeTrainOffTheRails

      Yes. Because I have a seething hatred for both of the carpetbagging bastards.

      Next question …

    • NastyBossetti

      Greg Vitali and Daylin Leach.
      Don’t ask me my congressman’s name, though, because I have a severe block against it for some reason. Know it when I see it, but can never think of it off the top of my head. So weird.

    • Juan de Fuca

      Ken Calvert and Jeff Stone. Both are Republicans. For those who haven’t heard, Jeff Stone is the guy who once flashed a fake police badge at a fellow motorist during a road rage incident here in Temecula.

      Jeff Stone’s stepson is a bail bondsman here in Temecula who also recently found himself on the wrong side of the law for posing as a police officer while kicking in the door of a Temecula woman’s apartment with guns drawn:

      Another reason why I simply vote straight “D” now. If these folks have their way, they’ll turn every decent state in America into Alabama.

    • Hollandaise

      I’ve met my state rep, state senator, and my city councilwoman (though to be fair she lives only a few blocks from me) but I was raised by activists who never missed ANY elections.

    • cmd resistor

      Yes to my state rep. He is one of the few sane people in the Fla. legislature, also a dem. No to state senator, although I vote in every election and probably voted against whoever it is.

    • DT

      Andrew Zwicker is my Assemblyman, I don’t care about the NJ senate because it’s a bunch of Dems who take their marching orders from political bosses.

    • This is a thing that is true but you might be in the wrong place. Pretty sure most of us here know who our dog catchers are.

    • Werewolf

      Donna Howard in the Texas House, Kirk Watson in the Texas Senate. Representing the People’s Republic of Austin.

  • mancityRed6
    • Cogswell – Overlord of Barsoom

      Or Cross-Eyed Cutters…

    • Institute For Applied Despair

      ‘I would like #4, the Used Q-Tip, please’.

      • mancityRed6

        I go #2 usually, but the Joplin woman says she likes my curls.

    • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith

      What makes you think that is actually his hair, or ever needs trimming

      • mancityRed6

        I was being nice? worst wig since the orange tangerine took office.

  • OrdinaryJoe

    I just heard Megan Kelly blame the election of Donald Trump on Bill Clinton. I guess somebody has to take the blame.

    • Bananas Foster

      If you want to get technical, even Bill Clinton’s election isn’t Bill Clinton’s fault.

      He didn’t install himself.

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        But W did.

    • mancityRed6

      Perot libelz!

    • cmd resistor

      Well if Bill had a part in it, he has to share the blame with Hillary, right?

    • canes_pugnaces

      Funny I blame it on Republicans who voted for him, and asshat Fox journalists who enabled him. I guess I’m behind the times.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      I thought it was Obama’s fault. I wish he hadn’t insisted on remaining black all through his presidency.

  • Riley Whodat Venable

    It worked with the Supreme Court, so why not. Why does his district deserve representation anyway? I mean, most of them are Democrats.

  • TakingAmes

    Fuck. I mean, after the family infighting, we knew this would a clusterfuck of some proportions, but come on!

  • theblackdog

    Oh FFS, how much money does this actually save? Not enough I’m sure.

    • Maybe

      It usually runs about $10 million or more. Of course any money saved by Repubs will be handed to the rich, so the Dems might as well demand a special election.

  • Me not sure

    Conyers’ district is now the USA’s second colony on the North American continent, after DC. The people of Detroit should be in the streets.

  • diogenez

    In the olden days, wasn’t this regarded as “taxation without representation”?

    • Impatient

      Science AND history classes are hereby cancelled, until further notice.

  • Non-Threatening Ron
    • Perkniticky

      Democrats are opposed to guns – even the ones frequently used by Republicans to kill themselves and their children.

      • Impatient

        Though one always needs to keep an open mind?

        • Maybe

          Minds tend to be very open after a bullet passes through them.

    • Maybe

      I think it needs to be slanted down a bit since Dems normally shoot themselves in the ass.

  • Perkniticky

    Normally I am opposed to term limits, but in this case they might be useful for a time, just to get Detroit out of the budding monarchy it seems to have going on.

  • nightmoth

    Hmmm–what does this remind me of? Oh, yeah: Congress refusing to interview Obama’s Supreme Court pick for the empty seat because Obama ONLY had a year left in his term. But that’s ancient history. How can anybody possibly remember it?

  • Maybe

    I’m confused. If someone is appointed to fill the seat temporarily, wouldn’t the Repub governor do that? That’s how Luther Strange in Alabama got his seat.

    • cmd resistor

      I read upthread that in Michigan it has to be a special election rather than an appointment. Surely if Snyder could appoint he’d have a nice nasty republican on board already, in spite of his desire to “give[s] people more options as to who will next represent them in Congress.”

      • Chris Collins

        The constitution doesn’t allow governors to appoint to empty house seats.

        • Maybe

          Interesting. I looked this up after your post. The whole process is weird and leaves a lot of discretion to politicians, which might work if they had any.

      • Maybe

        Thanks. That makes sense, or as much sense as anything in politics makes these days.

        It makes it extra odd that Conyers named his son as heir apparent if a special election is required. I hope whoever gets it is Democrat, but no kin to Conyers. He acts as if he owns the seat as well as his staff.

        This does appear to indicate that the article is correct that the Dems are being weenies. Special elections are not cheap, but months without a representative is harsh.

        Of course, the Repubs in Congress have done a great job this last year making sure that 1/2 the country has no representation in Congress at all. That’s largely what reconciliation and rushing bills through is about.

  • Viktor

    Why has Rick Snyder not been charged with poisoning the people of Flint with lead tainted water?

    • DT

      Jeff Sessions.

  • LiberalANDProud

    Why? Because despite what everyone wants to ignore and then attack those that point it out, the DNC is corrupt. There is no other reason for not fighting this. Oh yeah…RESIST!!LOLOL.

    Or, the other reason is that they’re weak spineless heinie wipes who should be removed from their positions and the politicians they support primaried out of their seats and replaced with REAL left wing progressives.

    • DT

      Yep, thanks for making the Democrats look reasonable here. We always need ones like you.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Yes, we’ll totally win if we move further to the left. That’s why a theocrat is getting elected in Alabama as senator, because Doug Jones just wasn’t liberal enough.

      • ahughes798

        I agree. It would be be completely horrible if the Dems actually became liberals instead of finger in the air, triangulating centrists.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          We can go even further to the left, and we’ll continue to lose. Remember how liberals didn’t like Obama because he was such a centrist? Guess what? He won. If it comes down to choosing between a centrist who can win, and a Bernie Sanders who will lose, I’m going for the centrist every time, because at least I won’t have to listen to Dotard rambling on about how fantastic he is, while he’s decimating the middle class, and screwing the poor.

          • ahughes798

            I’m not talking about a Bernie Sanders type here. I’m talking about someone who hasn’t worked for Goldman Sachs, or any other large financial institution, wants to re-instate Glass-Steagall, breaks up “too big to fail” banks, supports a public option(and I mean really supports it, not just gives it lip service), works to repeal Citizens United, re-instates any environmental regulations the dotard has rolled back, and supports a $15 minimum wage by 2021, not 2040. Someone who wants to raise taxes on the wealthy, strengthen the social safety net, reform gun regulations and get us out of these stupid wars which have cost us trillions of dollars. Since polling indicates that a majority of Americans also want these things, I would call that a centrist position.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Who do you have in mind?

          • ahughes798

            I have no idea. That’s the sad part. The Dems have moved so far to the right since Reagan got them all askeered of being called liberals that their platform is to the right of Nixon’s.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Well, we are still pro reproductive rights, pro civil rights, in favor of affordable health care, pro DACA, pro gay rights, freedom of religion, etc… So, its not all bad.

            Also, too, Citizens v. United made it virtually impossible for politicians not to be whores.

            //shakes fist at ground while screaming “I’ll see you in hell, Scalia!!!!!”

          • ahughes798

            You’re right, it’s not that bad. I agree with you about Scalia, too.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            It could be worse. I once had this nightmare that Donald Trump got elected president, because he was helped by Russia, and he stuffed the federal judiciary with RWNJs. Crazy dream, huh?

    • you mean like all those real progressives ™ who did not get elected this past year?
      As opposed to all the regular progressives (not tm) who’ve been elected all over the place, even in Oklahoma and Georgia?

  • Impatient

    So, same as the non-mail-in Montana ballot? Yeah, I remember that, somewhere in the Constitution. Democratic elections … IF we can get them on sale for the Payple.

  • WotsAllThisThen

    Funny how that logic doesn’t work in Alabama.

  • canes_pugnaces

    Hey if the GOP can refuse to allow a president to execute his constitutional duties by nominating a SCJ, why should’t a GOP governor refuse to appoint a seat in the House. After all, we’ve entered an all new one-party state. Snyder is a vile gob of fetid phlegm. AS for the Dem Party? I am have my doubts these days.

    • blaid droog

      Look at the toad the dnc put in charge of the party. Remember the republican they ran against rubio. Now, put your doubts aside.

  • miss_grundy

    I think some Detroiters are going to have to get on I-96 West and get their butts up to Lansing and have a conversation with Lame Duck Snyder and buttonhole the Michigan Democratic Party for a “Come to Jesus” meeting. It isn’t like the House doesn’t need every Dem possible to at least protest the shite that the Rethuglians are doing.

  • Lefty Wright

    Is it too late for Conyers to rescind his resignation? Given the options of him staying there for another year or the seat being vacant, I would go with him staying, despite his baggage.

    • BrendaKay

      This is my thought too. And this is why no Democrat should leave until there is a replacement named and ready to move into the offices (I’m looking at Franken)

  • puredog

    It’s a Merrick Garland thang.

  • calliecallie

    Maybe I’m being naive, but I don’t think this is as malevolent as it appears.
    1) The financial argument is genuine, there’s not a lot of extra money floating around Michigan for special elections.
    2) Definitely sense that the Dems want to get a good candidate in that seat and not just an easy choice candidate with the same name as the last guy.
    3) Thanks to Republican gerrymandering, it is a solidly Democratic seat. Whoever wins the primary will win the election, hands down. And I could certainly see that person winning for the next several decades – or 50 years – provided he/she doesn’t do anything stupid.

    It certainly looks bad that Snyder’s denying Detroit folks their electoral voice, but it wouldn’t be the first time. Detroit was also too under an emergency manager like Flint for quite a while.

    All that being said, I will also admit that the Michigan Democratic Party is fucking hopeless, so who really knows?


    Another piece of evidence validating my contention that Michigan has become Alabama North–I’m glad I got the fuck out of there a long time ago

    • calliecallie

      Michissippi, thank you very much.

  • BMW

    Snyder looks almost exactly like the evil televangelist from “X-Men: God Loves, Man Kills.”

    • gene108

      That would be the good Reverend Stryker…not only in looks does Snyder almost resemble him…

  • Trump’s Potemkin Village

    “But why are Michigan Democrats going along with him? Can they really
    be craven enough to deprive 700,000 people of Congressional
    representation just to leave the field open for one of their own to take
    the seat?”

    Because they are spineless trash. Throw those in bed with the GOP out.

    • Spineless trash, Ds for the sake of the D but really Rs…tomayto….tomahto
      see also: West Virginia

  • Poly_Ester

    By the time the GOP’s voter suppression drive kicks in it will be a low turnout election and a Republican seat.

  • Is this even legal?
    Can we get the ACLU to weigh in on how these people are going unrepresented?

  • Tony Prost

    they should not pay their taxes, as long as they are not being represented!

  • tehbaddr

    Obstructionist fuckers are gonna fuck the system! That is all.

  • Old Man Yells at Cloud

    And this is why you don’t give your seat in Congress. Its something the Republicans have know for decades. Why is this such a shock to the Democrats?

  • Zyxomma

    You can call it pathetic. I can call it several other choice words.

  • blaid droog

    Conyers should have said he’d resign when trump steps down. Franken should have said the same thing. The only thing the dimocrats are good at is shooting themselves in the balls. I take that back. The dimocrats have no balls. So the only thing they excel at is losing.

    • From Russia with Love

      Amen. I’ve already gotten all the free shit you get when you hold the moral high ground.

      • blaid droog

        They dimocrats seem to have forgotten ray-guns 11th commandment; never speak ill of a fellow republican. The dims telling Franken and Conyers to step down love them some corporate bribes. No politician can ever claim moral high ground. Some just don’t want to get mud on their delicate little hands.

  • Sakonyachen

    And the shock of being fucked continues!

  • chazmanr

    This is how a democracy is transformed into a dictatorship, one small step at a time.

  • ahughes798

    It’s the DNC way. Spineless, cowardly losers.

  • mysonsam

    Isn’t that taxation without representation? Didn’t we have a little spat with some other country over that very thing??

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