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Congratulations, Republicans across America! You have done what you set out to do. You pissed off the libs. The people you voted into office passed a 500-page tax bill in the middle of the night. A 500-page tax bill that only 32% of this country thinks is a great idea, which is a lower approval rating than the last several tax hikes. A 500-page tax bill they had only an hour to read, and which was filled with illegible margin scrawlings that they could not read if they tried.

And Elizabeth Warren did try! And failed!

What we do know about the bill is that it is really really good for the rich, and not so good for everyone else. We know that it eliminates the health insurance mandate, which means 13 million people will lose their health insurance. We know that it requires grad students to count their tuition wavers as taxable income, making it even more expensive to get a graduate degree than it was previously. We know that it officially declares that life begins at conception and allows oil drilling in Alaska, which definitely makes sense for a tax bill. We know that it eliminates the Johnson Amendment, which will allow people to write off their political donations as charitable donations — but not their home offices, or their staggering old-age medical bills and nursing homes. We know that it pretty much eliminates the estate tax, which will eventually lead to the extinction of the middle class in favor of two very distinct classes — the very rich and their inherited wealth, and the very, very poor.

And it adds $1.5 trillion dollars to the deficit!

It is all kinds of bad. And if you are a Republican, half of your fellows right now are cheering, because the people who are going to be hurt the most, you imagine, are the people you hate the most. Grad students, minorities, women, the non-religious, environmentalists, the kind of poor people you imagine are “just lazy” rather than “economically anxious” like you are (read: minorities, again), and most of all, all those smug liberals out there who think they are better than you. Right now, they, we, are all SO MAD ABOUT THIS TAX BILL! So mad about it! Because it is horrible and cruel and bad! And boy, our tears sure are delicious, aren’t they!

Unfortunately, this also means that you have also fucked yourselves in innumerable ways. And for a very long time! Like, you think you have economic anxiety now? Just wait! You think you’re mad about “the swamp” now? You think you’re mad about corruption? Just wait! You think you are better off with there being fewer educated people in this country? Well, you kind of need them, whether you like them or not. You do realize that the more expensive it is to become a doctor, the more it is going to cost to see a doctor, right? Especially when you don’t have insurance, which you probably will not.

But on the bright side, there is a tax break for private jet owners!

I guess it’s too bad that “liberal tears” have no actual nutritional value, because I’m honestly not sure what else you’re going to be feeding your families for the next several years. But when you’re scraping the last of them from the bowl, make sure you thank Donald Trump and all the other Republicans you voted into office that helped this happen. In the voting booth.

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  • Msgr_MΩment

    Thanks, Jill Stein!

    • Marceline

      And Bernie Sanders.

      • Gayer Than Thou

        And Matt Lauer.

        • Indeniable Ron

          And that ‘Aleppo’ guy, whatever his name was.

          • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

            Gary Johnson. Because I’m an unemployed historian who remembers things like footnotes.

          • Indeniable Ron

            Ooh, snap!

  • msanthropesmr

    Vote in 2018. Vote vote vote.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    “We know that it officially declares that life begins at conception ”

    Uhhhh, why is this in a tax bill?

    (I mean, I know it’s opportunism to get a conservative wet dream into the worst bill ever…I think the U.S. really needs a rule that proposed amendments need to be germane to the main bill)

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Do fetuses get counted as exemptions now?

      • schmannity

        If a couple has 200 frozen zygotes, can all be claimed?

        • Seek

          I think this is genius. I would totally be willing to freeze 10 or 15 for the next 20 years too get that tax break.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Did they even run this past the Parliamentarian? The life begins at conception shit is policy, not budget. It shouldn’t have been allowed under the reconciliation process.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        i agree – but our system is fucked that way.

    • shivaskeeper

      I thought that got stripped out?

      • willi0000000

        who can tell?

      • OneYieldRegular

        Abortionist!

        • shivaskeeper

          Meh. Been called worse.

    • OneYieldRegular

      This bill is like the worst Galette du Roi ever. And instead of a tiny porcelain baby hidden in one piece, there’s an actual fetus.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “I voted to preserve the ACA…and then voted to repeal the mandate that makes it workable. It’s possible I don’t know what the fuck I’m doing.”
    — John McCain

  • onedollarjuana

    So, once the tax bill is signed, it’s goodbye to El Trumpo. Pence won’t want to sign that piece of shit because it will stain his Glo-Coat finish, so they have to keep Donnie Two-Scoops on so he can sign the bill.

    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      Do you think so? I’m not so sure, any more…

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “Even nice, liberal Republicans must fellate the rich from time to time.”
    — Susan Collins

    • Gigglesnort

      “But I’ll pretend not to enjoy it.”

    • Dudleydidwrong

      It has been a long time since I’ve been spurned by one whom I loved, (59 years of marriage counts for something)but Susan has given me and many the finger. Sorry, former dream girl, but fuck you very bigly. Party uber alles? Now go kiss Paul LePage’s fat ass and all will be well.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    “We know that it eliminates the Johnson Amendment, which will allow people to write-off their political donations as charitable donations.”

    Sigh – let’s just dispense with the kabuki and allow politicians to show up at the federal reserve and take as much money as will fit in a wheelbarrow.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      No love for the Johnson?

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        I am already on record regarding my love for the johnson.

      • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

        You can still amend the Johnson, but you now have to caress the ass, as well…

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “Cash is for the lower classes. We’ll take ours in bearer bonds.”

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        “well, wire transfers would make it look like we’re just lazy.”

        • Latverian Diplomat

          “Despite the name, wire transfers really use a system of tubes!”
          — Ghost of Ted Stevens

      • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

        That’s why Linton was wearing gloves. One dollar bills are poor people’s money.

    • Blue Steel

      Ala Minuchin and Linton. :)

  • msanthropesmr

    Maybe I am foolishly optimistic, but this can’t bode well for the midterms for the Republicans. If only 32% were in favor, we might be in line for a reckoning like that occurred in Virginia, which I thought would never have a chance of regaining the house as democrats.

    • ManchuCandidate

      All the Koch money, voter suppression and ads in the world ain’t gonna stop someone voting against you if they hate your fucking guts.

      A lot of those GOPers better use that private jet taxbreak soon.

      Oh to dipshits like Susan Sarandon and other Dotards… this is the difference between the GOP and Demrats. Sure the Demrats are spineless whiney ineffective shits who bend from time to time to the whims of corprats and riches, but they don’t completely fuck over everyone to do so.

      • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

        What I tell folks is that while I don’t align 100% with dems, I still vote for them as I’ll get something thrown my may. Sadly, lacking my own jet, I know that reps won’t give me a fucking thing…

    • Bizarro Mike

      We keep having these critical tests of our democracy. Clinton campaigned on Trump being too horrible for the white middle and upper middle class to elevate to power. I wish she had been right.

      In the Virgina election, it was about the energy and anger propelling the left to the polls to do some good, while the right hunkered down and temporarily forgot their party affiliation.

      2018 will depend on the second phenomenon, I think. I have a fierce hope, but I’m not confident of victory.

      • goingohm

        All I ask is Democratic control of either chamber to make President Pence/Ryan play nice while the country slumps into 2020.

    • bbayliss

      The problem is that our collective memory is shorter than a guppies.
      We have irrefutable evidence of the consequences of the 2001, 2003 tax cuts and it’s being ignored.

      • willi0000000

        not by the majority of us . . . just by our “representatives”

        • bbayliss

          And media

    • OneYieldRegular

      I’m old enough to know that we are still entrapped to a vast degree in the disastrous legacy of Ronald Reagan 30 years after. So my optimism, while remaining an unretractable aspect of my constitution, is pretty dented and battered by this morning’s news.

  • folderol

    Well, we might as well join the mob and burn the whole country down. All good things come to an end, and the fires will keep us warm through the winter.

    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      The revolution will be live tweeted…

  • Scooby

    Thank god i’m getting my inheritance in coal.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      The first installment will be in your Xmas stocking in a couple of weeks.

  • Bizarro Mike

    Look, it isn’t that this bill will reduce us all to roasting pigeons on curtain rods over a barrel fire under the crumbled remains of a freeway overpass. It’s that that *other family*, who we hate (but not because of racism), will not have a rod upon which to roast their birds.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      all that time spent playing fallout “new vegas”, dead island and left 4 dead will come in handy.

      • Courser_Resistance

        Also too, all my youth spent hunting, fishing & camping.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          well, I mean, MAYBE.

          ; P

        • Better get started now, then.

        • OneYieldRegular

          With all the national monuments and parks opened up for mining, petroleum exploration and hunting, there should be plenty of wild game to go around for a brief and shining period.

          • Courser_Resistance

            Sadly, most of our deer and some elk are infected with Chronic Wasting Disease, a variant of Mad Cow. But what’s a little brain disease among friends?

          • james crubb

            Yes things are starting to taste rather ‘gamey’.

        • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

          Yes, but all I have is a .357 and that largely vaporizes the birds…

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      On the plus side, that pigeon overpopulation problem will be solved, though.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        Then can we start on robins? Blue jays? Hummingbirds? (I hear the 1% like their tongues; perhaps we can get the leftovers.)

  • Msgr_MΩment
  • Courser_Resistance

    So, my government no longer offers any kind of social safety net and things like healthcare, housing and food are NOT human rights. Without them, Liberty and Happiness are impossible and Life itself is snuffed out. But hey, I can own all the guns I want and the right to die in mass shooting celebrating the holy Right to Bear Arms

    Explain to me again what makes America Great? Look, it’s a fact that US citizens will receive no help from any other industrialized country, but it’s not like America is doing anything but stealing from us anyway. I’d rather be destitute in a country that at least believes in the human right to healthcare housing and food than in this one that demonizes and kills its minorities without shame.

    • ManchuCandidate

      Explain to me again what makes America Great?

      Guns and gun massacres.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        I am surprised that the final Senate bill didn’t mention bump stocks, not only making them legal but allowing a charitable deduction for the costs of purchasing them and fitting them to present weaponry. Maybe that’s embedded in one of those hand-written appendages that nobody can read.

        • Querolous

          An extra tax credit if you have to buy new penis substitutes because the ones you already have won’t work with a bump stock.

      • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

        The ability to deduct Truck Nutz…

    • Blackest Noobs

      it may be time to snuff out some dicks’ lives….with votes of course.

      end their careers in politics now.

  • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

    It’s clear from the kind of coverage this story DIDN’T get from the networks in the two weeks leading up to last night’s vote, that the suits at NBC Universal/Comcast, ABC/Disney, CBS, CNN, and of course the kiddies at Murdoch’s Fake News Emporium, expect to cash in handsomely from this atrocity, with enough table scraps falling to the floor to keep every Republican politician in America, plus Chuck Todd and Steve Doocy, in summer homes, European vacations, and delicious champagne.

    Gah. And just in case you weren’t already depressed enough, we are far from hitting rock bottom with this democracy-destroying Republican juggernaut; and when we do hit rock bottom, the Republicans have plenty of heavy digging equipment primed and ready to take us further down than we ever imagined possible.

    The next logical step is increasingly overt mass propaganda, plus civil violence, which will expand (if history is any indication) into mass bloodshed, until pockets of dissent have been contained. These outbreaks of violence will be accompanied by sunny headlines informing us that the Trump tax cuts have brought greater prosperity to the fatherland than anyone had ever dreamed of.

    And if you’re counting on the November, 2018 mid-terms to cure what ails us: well, by all means, plan to vote, as an act of defiance and revolutionary courage, and make sure all your friends and neighbors vote as well, but don’t plan on your vote being counted. Charles Koch’s capo Mitch McConnell long ago made it clear how little he thinks of constitutional norms and democratic governance.

    He was willing to fuck democracy when it came to Obama’s stimulus bill, back in the giddy days of 2009; he was willing to fuck democracy when it came to Merrick Garland and more than a hundred Obama nominees to the federal appellate bench: he was eagerly, gigglingly willing to fuck democracy with this shitpile of a tax bill; he’s not suddenly going to come to a screeching halt just because a majority of Americans go to the polls and vote for Democrats next year.

    But do it anyhow, in memory of George Washington or whoever.

  • george lastrapes

    President Ryan?
    For cryin’ out loud, I say,
    Fuck Ryan out loud.

    My high coo.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “He’s a wonk with real integrititude.”
      — The mainstream media, astonishingly enough

      • george lastrapes

        Once again, he’s a stupid man’s idea of a smart man. And the febrile Randian econoporn that motivates him is profoundly antichristian, as Pope Francis can attest.

    • Parakeetist

      Paul Ryan eats people.

      • george lastrapes

        Where’s my upvote?

  • feminazipenisshrinker

    “It’s ok to watch my family die of curable illnesses and my watch my grandmother eat cat food because now I get to see those loser snowflake liberals upset!”

    -Trump’s base

    They’ll be washing their shit sandwiches down with liberal tears so it’ll be great!

  • Celtic_Gnome

    I think we’re fucked.

    So fucked.

    • bbayliss

      I think they fucked themselves.

      • goingohm

        Yep. But they’re getting their orgasm up front.

    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      Cubically fucked. =Fucked^3, if you’re using MS Excel…

  • skyguy

    It’s hard to imagine how anyone even marginally aware of current events could fail to perceive that Amerika is now in an advanced state of Class War. This wretched piece of legislation is a clear declaration of war on working people.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “What’s that, I wasn’t listening, I’m busy scouring the Internet for one of those coal jobs that are coming back…”
      — A Trumpkin

      • skyguy

        There’s probably a Scrooge provision in the bill (written by a coal lobby bot) to provide generous tax write-offs for shiny new coal scuttles. You still have to buy your own candles and quill pens though, Cratchit!

    • willi0000000

      it’s not a class war unless both sides are fighting.

      what we have now is technically called a slaughter.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    You might think that with “Tax Cut & Jobs” act, the Republicans have lost their acronym mojo. Not so. It’s the
    Take Anything eXposed Court Utter Tyranny & Just Obvious Bull Shit act.

    • willi0000000

      good bacronyming!

  • memzilla Ω

    Even Scrooge McDuck was able to feel a little shame.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • bbayliss

      Cut spending, sit tight? Useless

      • Dudleydidwrong

        I just hope the price of cat food doesn’t go up any higher. And I don’t have a cat.

  • schmannity

    When Majority Leader Duckworth and Speaker Schiff get together in 2019, this can be fixed. We have our work cut out.

    • gene108

      It is going to take till 2021, unless Speaker Pelosi ascends the Presidency in 2019, as Trump and Pence get hauled off to jail.

  • Daniel

    I live in country with literal aristocrats and even they aren’t so openly contemptuous of the poor as your Republicans.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Prince Harry, is that you?

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        Prince Harry is going to need to beef up his security force with the fuzzy hats. The guardsmen are not wearing enough of them. The deplorables and Daily Failers are out for blood because they’ve decided that his girl is “polluting” the inbred royal lineage. Sheesh, even the actual Tories haven’t gone so far as to deliver an Enoch Powell screed against the future wife of the prince.

        • PubOption

          Some of the Daily Failers can remember the last time a divorced American tried to marry into the royal family. Some of them think that George VI was on the wrong side of history regarding Hitler.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    I dunno, I’ve got nothing besides anger and worry. My barely-above-water parents are going to really suffer. No more business expense deductions for small biz owners is going to really hurt my mother, who can’t afford to retire, and my dad’s social security, they’ve “promised” that they won’t touch that for olds (totally cynical because they don’t wanna upset a bloc that consistently votes), but who knows? This is of course just a taste of what’s going to be happening all over the country. People will suffer, people will die because of this cynical and immoral bullshit.

  • thewalkindude
  • BigCSouthside

    I’m gonna go find my pitchfork

    • goingohm

      Might wanna upgrade to a model with auto-pitch. There’s a lot of forking to do.

    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      Ima warm up my flamethrower…

  • TJ Barke

    If you don’t have guns yet, you may want to get them while they’re still relatively affordable.

    • shivaskeeper

      If you do get them, learn how to fucking use them.

      • TJ Barke

        Dad taught me well.

        • shivaskeeper

          Dude, you are in small town OR. I would assume out of hand that you have guns. Being a libtard, you probably actually know how to use them.

      • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

        Yup. Don’t be like that guy in Handmaids Tale that couldn’t load a MOTHERFUCKING REVOLVER!

        Sorry…I’m tense…

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      I’m in Massachusetts. It’s damn hard to buy so much as a pea shooter here.

      I’d only be planning on using it for mental health coverage anyway.

      • Eileen Besse

        In Western Mass, I had a permit just to make sure I didn’t get busted for the presence of Himself’s guns in the house. Yeah, I know how strict they are–and I had no prob with it. We also had fewer crazies with those laws.

  • The republicans have chosen to borrow money from China, the world’s largest Communist country, to increase the income of their iconic Capitalist heroes here in the U.S., with the debt to China (and others) to be paid for by the working class here in the states.

    From his grave Chairman Mao declares victory over the capitalist pigs.

    • schmannity

      Both economies supported by slavery, just of different stripes.

  • Ricky Gay

    Apparently, some of them can squeeze nutrition out of nothing more than spite and bile.

  • george lastrapes

    Talk about exotic financial instruments! Donate a million to a Repug, get back a billion! The lower orders will not know they are paying the trillions this will cost the nation, as they will be preoccupied watching the newsbimbo on FOX struggle to keep her thong covered by her microskirt.

    • Indeniable Ron

      Sounds like in this version of 1984, Telescreen is a LOT more entertaining.

  • Dudleydidwrong

    Sorry, gals and guys. As a nearly-83-year-old I apologize for the world I and the other oldz are leaving you. We did try, but obviously not enough. Some of my brother and sister oldz feel as I do so please don’t hate us all. Others, however, have the “I’ve gotten mine so screw you, especially those who don’t belong here” mentality. To those I only hope that their Hoverounds break down in the middle of I-95 on a busy day. Wrecker service for Hoverounds isn’t a deductible item any longer.

    I don’t believe in an Afterlife–this is all we’ve got. So I hope you can do better than I did. I really feel bad about the nation.

    • Blender_415

      DDW, this is not on you. I’m getting close to 50, and I’m having the same reaction. We’re doing the best we can, and we will continue to do so until they cremate us, or plant us in the ground (or get ground up into food for the masses).

      Sending love your way; we will continue to fight.

      • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

        We’re Gen X. While I’m sure there are shitheads in our generation, I like to think that a lot of us care about others in addition to ourselves.
        Also, are you in the 415? If so, then greetings from the 650!

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      62, checking in. Like you, I have fought my whole life for equity. I have never missed an election (I am such a hard case that I vote in Chicago mayoral primaries). As I tell my millennial housemates, this is not what I wanted to be doing in back end of my life, but it’s what I am doing. See you at the barricades.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        You’re goddamn right! See you at the barricades. I just hope that when you and I turn around there are a few others there with us.

        I haven’t missed voting in an election since I first voted at age 21, the voting age at that time. If Trump is the last president I experience (like one experiences a root canal or water boarding) I wonder what good it did. Sigh. But my great-grandchildren deserve my best efforts.

        • House0fTheBlueLights

          I had some asshole on Twitter yesterday telling me to stop “centering voting.” (I wonder if she got to put a checkmark on her buzzword list.) Apparently what we’re supposed to be doing is “organizing” but I’m unclear what we’re organizing for if voting isn’t it. Also, a millennial telling a Boomer that we don’t know how to organize just is all kinds of wtf. Honey, we’re just so fucking tired, and you aren’t helping.

    • SisterArtemis

      I don’t blame you – I know that there is no generation where people didn’t speak out against the cruelty of the actual and wanna-be oligarchs of this nation. The thing about fighting against those assholes is that they could give a crap about playing fair. You can fight the good fight, and still lose against those fuckers.

    • Courser_Resistance

      59 here. I’m with you. I tried my whole life and I’ve got nothing to show for it. My life has diminished steadily since the 80’s. This all is so horrifying I really can’t stand it. But I’ve said that so many times in the past….

      • Dudleydidwrong

        Yes. I was born during the so-called Great Depression during FDR’s administration. I guess I believed that we as a nation would always choose among candidates who were people of integrity even if I didn’t agree with them in all things. The present situation is at best a parody of all that I believed to be true, and a travesty of what we were taught and which I tried to teach in my career. I don’t know what I’d be saying if I were still in the classroom but it wouldn’t be pretty and I’d probably be swinging from the flagpole in front of the administration building, figuratively if not literally.

    • Juan de Fuca

      Oh, if history is a guide, we’ll find a way to fuck it up even more when I’m 83 but thank you for fighting the good fight and doing what you could to prevent this from happening.

      There are times when you really can’t fix stupid.

    • Eileen Besse

      Sincerely–THANK YOU. Sixty-four here, still trying to fight the good fight right there with everyone else. We’ll carry on.

    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      Sweat not, fine sir. We realize that not all that is older than is has a “I’ve got mine” mentality…also, as you’re here, you’re cleansed anyway…this place is like Lourdes ;)

  • folderol

    (Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?)

    Once I built a hotel
    Made it run,
    Booked up all the time
    Yes, I made a fortune
    But I’m not yet done:
    Now I’m after your last dime

    I pay my workers peanuts
    I don’t care
    Haven’t got the time
    Gotta jet to Belaire
    Beat it, son
    Begging’s now a federal crime

  • gene108

    I don’t have tears. I have seething white hot fury. I want to burn those motherfuckers down.

    • bbayliss

      I feel contempt.

      • Indeniable Ron

        They’d have to improve some to have earned ONLY contempt.

    • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

      Don’t just get angry. Get organizing.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    And just for a little soupçon of “fuck you America” December 2 is making everyone’s iPhones crash.

    • Maggielle

      Mine hasn’t. Is that because I have an older one? I’m scared to upgrade and this one does want I want it to do.

    • Daniel

      Why?

  • redarmyzombie

    Welp, is it too soon to pitch my DIY guillotine startup?

  • The Librarian

    Remember the movie “Oliver”? “Please sir, may I have some more?” Because he was starving, barely existing on gruel. And he was punished for it. Kinda hope that rings a bell for every Trump supporter. Also, too, whatever money I have left from this debacle will go to getting every one of those asshats who voted for this scam unelected next time they’re up for reelection. I have my list and will be checking it twice.

    • I’m pretty sure there’s a gruel tax somewhere in those 500 pages.

      • The Rick

        And a tax relief for the headmaster.

        • The Librarian

          Only if he owns a jet

        • Indeniable Ron

          ‘I say, I can deduct the cost of switches and whips now!’

  • The Rick

    The Senate is no longer a deliberative body, it is a partisan hack to passing laws blindly. Considering moving to Canada. This government is off the rails with corruption.

    • Blackest Noobs

      good luck with that, immigrating to Canada ain’t easy.
      shit, you would have an easier time doing so if you fly over to the Middle East, and then come back as refugee to resettle in Canada…probably take 2-3 years.

      unless you got some skills ( doctor’ing, lawyer’ing, accounting’ing, computer’ing) you might get in sooner, if not….i wouldn’t even bother.

      • Maggielle

        Yeah, I’m an old spinster lady who housesits and walks dogs. I’m of no use anywhere but where I am, and when my wealthy clients (or I guess “if”) start feeling the hurt, I will NOT help them eat their dogs. I will weaponize myself and go out spectacularly instead. (Well, I’ll try. Have to learn me some new skills first.)

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        I pick up languages pretty easily, and could probably learn conversational French. But even that doesn’t help, because I don’t have the kind of skills or education their economy is calling for — which every economy is calling for. I can’t do the really high-level quantum computer stuff. I can do mail merge in Word and pivot tables in Excel. Big fucking deal. My educational background is in the humanities and social sciences. They have plenty of candidates to serve coffee at Timmies.

        Plus, they’re saturated with teachers, and they don’t need any more historians to make Canadian Heritage Moments or factoid trivia memes reminding them that MacDonald was a genocidal drunkard, Chandler beat up Justin in grade 5, and Nickelback has always sucked. They want scientists to turn Toronto into Metropolis, not local arts and book people to open up bookshops where patrons can bring their pet trash pandas. Nobody wants humanities majors. Why the fuck do colleges even offer these toilet paper degrees anymore?

    • Courser_Resistance

      I’m thinking of going in spring for an ‘extended camping trip’.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Yes indeed. I’m sick to death of reading all of the hand-wringing about how Dems didn’t do enough. How exactly is a minority party, intentionally cut from the process and given no time to respond to last-minute additions HAND-WRITTEN BY LOBBYISTS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS supposed to somehow do more?
    https://twitter.com/MichaelSLinden/status/936825901995536385?s=17

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      It’s easier to blame the Dems (and Lord knows, they deserve their share) than it is for the MSM to admit to their complicity in getting us in this situation.

      “What, us put our finger on the scale? Fawn all over Donnie all campaign? Wallow in useless bothsiderism? Refuse to call out the GOP lest we lose access and quit getting invited to beltway cocktail parties?”

      “No, it’s Hillary’s fault for running a lousy campaign and Dems suck…”

      • Gayer Than Thou

        Also all of this. Where are the hard questions to GOP leadership about the source, contents,and process of and justification for this so-called tax reform?

        • SDGeoff3

          They only get hard for children.

    • shivaskeeper

      This bill is the direct result of GOPer fuckery. No ifs, and, or buts about it.

      The Dems contribution is decades of not effectively fighting the GOPers. They did fight, just not effectively. and ended up in the minority. Slowly conceding ground until we are in what looks like an increasingly permanent minority. McTurttle is not the only one who knows all the obscure Senate rules. Where was out side using those same rules when they had the chance last time? Where is the fire we use to burn each other when it comes time to turn it on the GOPers?

      As a case in point, after a year of Two Scoops in office and the GOPers controlling both sides of Congress, with one horror show after another coming out of the halls of power, what is the unifying message beyond Trump sucks? Disarray at the top has to and always will lead to disarray down the line.

      What is the rallying call for 2018? I’m not saying they all need to go, or be replaced or anything like that, but they do need to pull their heads out of their asses, face reality, and figure out what they fuck can be done, how to do it, and how to get the message out about it.

      • Part of the blame lies in voter apathy. The wingnuts turn out in off-year elections, and they run candidates for dogcatcher. Sure, three million more people voted for Hillary than for Trump, but where the fuck was everybody in 2010, in 2014?

        • shivaskeeper

          This has been part of my argument for a while. Some of the apathy is due to being written off as a losing region before the race is even run. Why should anyone from a red state who personally leans blue bother to vote at the national level every four years, or two, if we don;t bother running anyone who will support them in their day to day lives?

          50 state strategy, plus all the counties,cities, towns and everything. Top to bottom.

        • shivaskeeper

          Very good.I have been saying similar things.

          Every time someone asks how veterans or the troops can vote GOPer I have to explain that the left conceded the definitions of patriotism and supporting the troops to the right in Reagan’s time and have done nothing visible to reclaim the words.

          Right now to the GOPers they are by definition patriotic, so anyone to the left of them is by definition not patriotic. If anything they do is patriotic, it is no surprise that they can look at and condone foreign influence in the election and still claim to be patriots. The patriotic side won, so how could it be any different?

    • Gayer Than Thou

      This. A million times this. All of the Democrats voted against it. They said bad things about it on the news and on Faceplace and on Twitter. Surely some Democrats are surely hacks who should be working at Hot Dog on a Stick, but some of them are smart, savvy, experienced politicians. If there were some magical way for Democrats to have stopped this, I kind of think they would have come up with it.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Well, also, it’s easier than admitting that our legislative system does, in fact, allow one party to completely take over the process in a very undemocratic manner. In short, reminding the public that we are not even CLOSE to being an ACTUAL democracy.

  • Blackest Noobs

    so not saying this will happen but would be very interesting if and that’s a big IF the American public who didn’t really want nor like this bill wake up during next year’s midterms, and just for shits and giggles, every state with an election, every office being held by a Republican, they all turn blue.

    it can be possible but the DNC needs to get on the fucking ball here. this is a grand opportunity, and i highly recommend they run women and women of minorities candidates. i mean what have they got to lose, right?

    Virginia did it and it was done pretty much without the DNC’s help. imagine if the DNC backed this and PR’d the shit outha it.

    • Courser_Resistance

      What makes you think we’ll having anything like ‘free and fair’ elections in 2018? Unless the UN sends a fuckton of election monitors I won’t believe in the ‘power of the vote’ ever again. Dems have been ratfucked SO MANY times by the EC. So yeah, I’m not sure my vote counts for Jack or Squat except in my local elections.

      • Blackest Noobs

        don’t be a donald downer, dude.

        we had for the most part a free and fair election just recently except for one hiccup….some peeps got the wrong ballot in a very contested race for one seat in the Assembly.

    • Phried Ω

      And field a candidate in EVERY district. I’m sick of my ballot having only the Republican to vote for or leave blank.

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        Get to your local Dem meeting. Start identifying potential candidates this month. Talk to them, promise to work for them, or to support them. By February this will be too late….

        • Phried Ω

          I have to tread lightly. Hatch Act. To top it off my political donations show up in public records and the ratfuckers publish them.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • SisterArtemis

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      • Resistor Radio

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  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
    • Blackest Noobs

      all of them ( and a few Democrats) have taken money from the NRA.

      If the Senator is a Republican, guess what, they’ve taken NRA’s blood money.

    • bbayliss

      I sent this to every one of those fuckers this morning:

      Last night you passed a tax bill, without reading it or understanding what was in it.
      You did it because “your donors demand it” and after a year of legislative failure you “had to do something”.
      You pushed it through quickly, without regular order, while we slept.
      This tax bill sets the stage for another great recession.
      I learned something from the tax cuts of 2001, 2003, You didn’t.
      The bill is poison. It will come back to bite you, unfortunately it’ll bite me first.

      Your party lost any claim to moral high ground when you voted for a man proud of the privilege that allows him to abuse women with impunity, now with a bill that adds more than a trillion dollars to the deficit, you’ve lost any claim to fiscal responsibility.
      You and your party have revealed yourselves to believe none of the “principles” you’ve touted for more than thirty years.
      You have revealed yourselves to be craven, greedy, morally bankrupt, and beneath my contempt.
      Since the day Ronald Reagan redefined government from “we the people” to “the problem” you have done more damage to democracy from within than any adversary has been able to do in our history. Congratulations,
      And you can go straight to hell.

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      Ha! Two of those guys are named Crapo and Moran.

      OK, Universe, you can stop mocking us now…

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Wow, Kurt is even more pissed than I am:

    https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/936859923614277633

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    The entire Republican party can just fuck right hell off

  • SisterArtemis

    OH GAWDAMMIT! I could just cry. I am almost crying reading this. It’s not as bad as election night, or the next morning, OR IS IT? Because this is the kind of crap I was fearing then, and as the months have drug on, now those idiots in DC are actually doing it.

    Not my DC folks, who are not idiots, and railed against this crap fest, but they also have no power.

    I fervently hope this mess falls apart in reconciliation, or the final votes in the House and Senate. Because there’s no way in hell the Idiot in Chief won’t sign what comes to his desk, not because he thinks or even cares about it being a good tax overhaul, but because he’s in for the win, he’s all about the brand, and any kind of win, in his view, is good for his brand. Good gawd I’m depressed this morning.

    • Phried Ω

      You know as well as I do that what comes out of reconciliation will be each bill’s WORST provisions.

    • shivaskeeper

      Stay strong. One loss in battle is not the war.

      • OutOfOrbit

        but there is one final, last battle to lose in every war and Who knows if this isn’t it?

        • shivaskeeper

          Do you have any fight left in you? If you do, this wasn’t it.

      • SisterArtemis

        You are absolutely right. And I do truly believe that the long arc of history will right this ship. But in the meantime…. so much cruelty in this bill, and for our particular household, the effect on small businesses will hit us very hard.

        • Maggielle

          I was just now thinking of 1929 and what people had to go through to reach 1946, and how so many many people lived in misery and died in the process. Trump talked about carnage in his inaugural. Turns out it was a prediction.

    • Courser_Resistance

      I’m making plans to leave the country next spring. No point in living in a place I’m so ashamed of. Besides which, I’ll get zero benefit from my tax dollars here. They’ve finally broken the social safety net just as completely as ZEGS wet dream. I’m 59. I had only 6 goddamn years left until SS. What the fuck am I waiting for now. No healthcare, no Medicaid, no Medicare, no Social Security. Fuck it, why even pay in another dime???? I’m unemployed now, with a few months left on UI.

      Last night, before the tax bill passed, I promised myself, ‘Just 6 more years. Work your fucking ass off for JUST 6 more years. Buy a new (to me) truck and little camping trailer. At 65, I’d have what I need. It’s not a lot, but not having to pay rent would save me a huge pile of money.

      Now I’m wondering if working those next 6 years, paying higher taxes with no hope for any healthcare or much of anything else? And get nothing at the end of it? Why? I might as well Opt Out Now.

      • Maclare’s Colosseum O’Crap🏛️

        I thought you could start SS at 62?

        • Courser_Resistance

          At a very reduced benefit yes. It’s not enough to live on, particularly in Denver. Rents are astronomical and I wouldn’t get enough to make even truck payment.

          And that’s IF it’s still around in 3 years.

      • weejee

        My bride an I are 10 years older. We are seriously thinking of Medellin (yes that Medellin), maybe Bogota – another great Colombian city, or Ecuador. We are not fond of the hot in other Central and South American locations, so we look to avoid it with elevation.

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        I’m 33. No job or prospects for one, and even if I wanted to go or had the aptitude for a worthwhile (read: STEM) grad school education (seriously, fuck liberal arts, I don’t even care about the “education for its own sake” morons speaking from a place of — there, I said it, privilege), I wouldn’t be able to go financially anyway.

        I’m thinking of relocating to a dirt patch because that’s all I have to look forward to. I don’t mean as a homeless person either. I mean as a casualty of the regime. A proverbial tree falling in the forest who no one notices because I don’t “make a sound” or cause any impact whatsoever.

        Canada sounds like a nice place, but I’m sure even they’re no country for history majors. I don’t have the money to even go on vacation there and “lose track of time” as regards my tourism visa expiration date.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      The seeming self-awareness is unsettingly disconcerting….

  • Christopher Story

    Time to eat the rich

    • Parakeetist
      • AnnieGetYerFun

        If I were a folk singer, I would cover Motörhead, mostly. Also, I would like to point out that my phone changed my above typing of “fava” to “Gaga” AND was prepared with the umlaut-bedecked spelling of Motörhead so that I didn’t have to look up how to type the special o. My point is that my phone seems to think that I need more music in my life.

    • Jbrooks9

      With a nice Chianti.

      • Indeniable Ron

        Aren’t you supposed to pair a dry white with pork?

        • schmannity

          Dry white with dry white.

      • Christopher Story

        And fava beans. The irony being that they probably have both on hand. How thoughtful.

        • AnnieGetYerFun

          I made fava beans the other day, and they smell like ass. I assume that was part of the appeal for Hannibal, but I never saw the movie.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Heads need to roll over this.

  • bbayliss

    OT but seth abramson has the goods:
    Seth Abramson‏Verified account
    @SethAbramson
    14h14 hours ago
    More
    Replying to @SethAbramson
    NOTE/ K.T. McFarland’s mentor was Bud McFarlane—Russian oil pipeline advocate and Iran-Contra villain—who was a VIP at the Mayflower speech along with Singapore’s ambassador. Now McFarland is the ambassador to Singapore. And Singapore’s one of the nations in the Rosneft deal. Hm.

    educate yourselves:https://twitter.com/SethAbramson

    • Claire

      Jesus. I don’t need an education, I need a wiki and a whiteboard.

  • GlazedHaim

    Thank god for this article. I made the mistake of reading through a few FOX comments threads and I want to scream. The unearned sense of superiority from people who think the feudal pyramid is a thing aliens built kills me. It’s like listening to someone who’s colorblind describe a rainbow.

    • bbayliss

      “It’s like listening to someone who’s colorblind describe a rainbow.”
      The willingly blind leading the blind.

      • GlazedHaim

        And sadly, so much of that shit comes from the easy validation of social media. “I say fuck homo liberals and nazi socialists under this important news story and and get a like? DONE”

      • GlazedHaim

        The best lack all conviction while the worst are full passionfruit wine spritzers

    • They’re all too stupid and evil to realize that they are all as fucked as the rest of us.

  • Victoria Ricola

    :(

  • yyyaz

    Just imagine how popular US Merka will be 12-18 months from now when this explodes the global economy. OTOH, that should be right about the time that the ‘net achieves Actual Intelligence, weighs the costs and benefits of allowing humanity to continue acting atrociously and decides to pull the plug on us.

    • Indeniable Ron

      With some luck we’ll have time to restructure that economy around you so that you’ll only harm yourselves. Sorry.

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        “Sorry.”

        Spoken like a Tru Canadian.

        • Indeniable Ron

          Aw, you’re making me blush!

      • Claire

        God, I hope so. I’d like to have somewhere to go that actually has a decent economy.

    • I’m heavily invested in Thunderdome futures.

      • redarmyzombie

        I plan on going full Morlock myself.

        • yyyaz

          I love the sound of their machinery.

        • goingohm

          Eloi’s coming.

          • Marion in Savannah

            Is that you, Laura Nyro?

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      Making the US a miserable country to live in for anyone who isn’t in the top 1% will achieve the goal of drastically reducing immigration. Dolt45 (if he isn’t dead or otherwise removed from office) will use it as a campaign slogan.

      • Claire

        America is already halfway to being the new Pakistan. European companies assemble cars here because they don’t have to pay people a living wage or take on the cost of worker protections.

  • Can we just project a loop of Allison Janney as CJ saying “Wow, how stupid are you?” On the Capitol Dome?

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      Also too, can you please install a minaret on the Parliament building that has Tillerson’s voice saying “Donald’s a fucking moron” on repeat? (More than five times a day.)

      • redblack

        parliament? that’s like talking and shit, right?

        in US america, our legislative body is named after fucking.

        • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

          Haha. Well, at least Canada’s lucky enough that as of July 1, 2018, Parliament Hill is going to be renamed Parliament Funkadelic Hill. Wouldn’t you know, it’s a Clinton policy.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WOZwwRH6XU

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      I’ll accept anything involving Allison Janney.

  • OneYieldRegular

    You can tell that Republicans are really unashamed of this “accomplishment” because they executed it in the darkness of 3:00 in the morning on a weekend.

    • Resistor Radio

      They waited until America was drunk at last call before moving on us like a bitch.

      • OneYieldRegular

        #TaxScamMeToo

      • bupkus231

        But who was wearing the beer goggles???

    • I knew they were going to do that.

  • Parakeetist

    I stayed up way too late watching this shit on MSNBC and C-Span. Now I need to eat. Also shopping for a charity toy thing.

    https://youtu.be/7nrM9aAGGNg

  • GlazedHaim

    If you read far enough through this you’ll get to a subsection enumerating Tiny Tim’s death

  • Guest Liberal
    • Shan

      That’s perfect.

      • Daniel

        Speaking of, how’s your hair?

        • Shan

          My stylist wouldn’t let me do anything drastic like the chin length bob i suggested. It was almost to my waist before and getting out of control so she just cut a few inches off to make it manageable.

          • Daniel

            Stylists can be tyrannical. I understand Pinochet went to beautician school before joining the army.

    • redblack

      thanks for that.

      nice avatar, also too.

    • Resistor Radio

      Don’t fall for it Charlie Brown!

    • OneYieldRegular

      This will never get old.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      “Bitch set me up.” — C. Brown.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    Any word on what tax year this bill takes effect, like will it be retroactive to 2017? They would sneak that in if they could. I was counting on deducting my wheelchair this year, the one Medicare wouldn’t pay for.

    • Wonky McUbtrye

      People don’t believe me when I tell them about all the things Medicare does not pay for: PCA’s, wheelchairs, splints & braces, a staggering number of necessary medications. Don’t get me wrong, we’re incredibly grateful to have it, but also it fucking sucks. I don’t work in large part because I’m acting as my wife’s unpaid PCA – there’s a lot more I could do if we were able to get that kind of help.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        The stupidest thing they don’t pay for is grab bars in the bathroom. 80% of senior falls occur in the bathroom, often resulting in broken hips. Medicare will pay for a hip replacement, which can cost $40,000, but it won’t pay for a $30 grab bar. Medicare says they won’t pay for them because they are not “medically necessary. It is clear that nobody in Medicare has ever tried to use the toilet or the shower during an attack of severe sciatica (I have, it can’t be done).

    • Maclare’s Colosseum O’Crap🏛️
      • bupkus231

        It starts in tax year 2018 – which means that most people won’t really “see” the impacts until they file their taxes in the early spring of 2019 ( after the 2018 election, of course. )

        They’re clearly depending on the phenomenally short memory of Americans to save them….

  • Persistent Demme

    SO demoralized by this tax shit!
    Wake me up when Mueller indicts someone.

  • Kryptonian Canis

    So when they put Roy Moore into Sessions’ old seat, they’re officially the party of sexual predators and granny-starvers from here on out, right?

    • Angela Ruzzo

      A year ago I would have said that Repuglicans aren’t smart enough to do both those things at the same time. What a surprise, they can multitask after all!

    • bupkus231

      They’ve been that for years – what’s one more confirmation?

  • Anna Rompage

    $1.5 trillion to the deficit?

    Um, the GOP used the imaginary & magic numbers of dynamic scoring to rate this bill, so it’s more likely the deficit will be increased $2-$3 trillion or more over the next decade, and that’s only if the economy keeps going at the same rate it has been, and we don’t have another recession.

    BTW, the US, on average, has a recession of some sort about every 10 years or so, and guess how long it’s been since the last one?

    • Nick Danger

      Only before and since deregulation. 1933 – 1980 no recession. That bad ol’ government protecting the economy

    • bupkus231

      Uh, I believe the JCT report that came out Thursday or Friday DID use “dynamic scoring” ( per Republican direction ), and the best they could come up with is that the most that additional growth due to the tax cuts could account for was about $400B – so, even with the GOP magic fairy dust, it still will add a Trillion dollars to the deficit over ten years ( and that’s ONLY annual deficits – think of what ten years of these deficits will add to the national debt the the GOP used to love to cry about ).

      These fuckers DO NOT CARE.

  • schmannity

    I took a massive shit this morning. Conclusion: no collusion.

    –DJT

    • Guest Liberal

      “If he took a dump on his desk, you would defend it.”

      ~Anderson Cooper, to Jeffrey Lord, May 2017

  • Red Bird

    And rich white people get to keep their money. As always.

  • ariel_gee_398

    Has someone quantified this bill not in dollars but in lives lost or otherwise devastated? How many people will die w/o insurance? How many will die without Medicare or Social Security because they can no longer afford medical care? How many students won’t be able to afford education? And on, and on. We know, roughly, the dollars shifted to the rich from the poor and middle class, but I’d like those numbers of lives destroyed to hang like an albatross around the neck of every fucker that voted for this.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      I doubt you can actually come up with a quantifiable number, but just in my immediate circle of coworkers there are probably fifteen (already in their 70s or early 80s) who won’t ever be able to retire now, another 30 or so who will have to drop out of college, none who will be able to afford insurance now, and several dozen who will lose their homes when they have to choose between paying rent and eating.

    • Old Man Yells at Cloud
    • bupkus231

      “Numbers? We don’ need no steenkin’ numbers!” – every Republican everywhere

      You could rub their noses in preventable deaths, and they would refuse to see.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    Any non-US Wonkers out there looking for an older female? Because I need to get the fuck out of here, but my skill set and years of usefulness in the workplace are fairly far from meeting requirements for emigration to any of the good countries. OTOH I think I could go to, say, Bangladesh. Or maybe Somalia.

    • ariel_gee_398

      Pretty soon we’ll probably be able to claim refuge status in one of the good countries. Don’t lose hope.

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        I can’t play the drums, but my university education and 3.99 GPA leaves me more than qualified to dry-clean Justin’s fancy socks and cosplay outfits. Plz to hire a housekeeper in friendly Care Bear Country kthxbai.

    • Resistor Radio

      I think turning us into Somalia is the libertarian utopia Paul Ryan gets a hard on for.

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        But with no black people, except as slaves for the economically anxious whites. Got to give the MAGA rubes bread-and-circus of some sort.

        • Marion in Savannah

          Well, it won’t be long before they start up the Hunger Games.

        • Phried Ω

          and more guns. More even than Somalia already has. I wonder if I should set up a business converting F150s, Tundras, and Rams into Technicals. They would be popular in the rural county I live in.

        • Resistor Radio

          Ugh, you’re really very right.

          ETA: half of them think this is the part where “the south will rise again”

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      We have property in Bangladesh, but it’s going to be underwater in a few years. Have you considered Greenland? I assume that’s the only place where one will be able to secure a guaranteed supply of fresh water.

  • data_ninja

    So do we know for sure that with all of the shit crammed into that bill, that nothing was put in to sabotage the Mueller investigation? I’m just wondering, since no one has had time to read it.

    I wouldn’t dare put it past the fuckers is all I’m saying.

    • Old Man Yells at Cloud

      My personal hope is that some disgruntled staffer slipped in “Pants-less Tuesday on the Senate Floor” or something equally embarrassing for McTurtle to have to explain.

      • bupkus231

        No hope there – only gruntled Republican staffers have had any opportunity to see this bill.

  • Jbrooks9

    I would advise all Wonkettes to start brainstorming about being subversive borderline criminal sociopaths in honor of the Repubs. Some Ideas: I just might have to file a 6 month tax extension for this year just because I have to take some time to enjoy the afterglow from this screw job. If enough people did it in protest, the paperwork would overwhelm the IRS. Another thought, switch party affiliations just so you can fuck up their primaries. I know that thought is repulsive, but country before pride. If we Libtard snowflakes think real hard, bet we can cause lots of clusterfucks for them.

    • yyyaz

      The major problem with filing for a tax extension is that you still have to pay your calculated or estimated tax bill by April 15. The extension just gives you time to file a completed return.

      • Indeniable Ron

        ‘I estimate I’m getting a $4500 refund. I’ll do the paperwork in six months.’

        • Old Man Yells at Cloud

          In that case, congratulations, you have just given Lil’Donnie, McTurtle and Speaker Eddie Munster an interest free loan.

          • Indeniable Ron

            You mean you can send in your taxes this way and they DON’T pay you back right away? How is that even fair?

          • Old Man Yells at Cloud

            I’m sure the Republican tax bill has that fixed in it. Probably written in pencil on page 327 next to the coffee stain.

    • twaingirlie

      The IRS is already overwhelmed. People are leaving due to budget cuts and/or retiring out. And they are replacing it at the rate of 1 in 5. They already are a clusterfuck.

      • Bright Bart

        Exactly, if a huge number of people paid just a bit too little taxes and never filed we could strangle them with small bits of string.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Yeah, the IRS hasn’t processed my 2015 taxes yet. They owe me about 4K. Funny that they are taking their sweet time.

      • mailman27

        The unfunny part is how their budget has been cut to the bone in the hope that service will become untenable. They have one employee for every three they need, and the political party that crippled them can’t wait to turn the whole endeavor over to the private sector. Seriously, this whole “See the government doesn’t work” thing is going with bells on. Whew! Sorry.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Just don’t be nasty to the people who work at the IRS. They didn’t write this shitshow of a bill.

  • Nick Danger

    I’ll be setting up a guillotine outside my senator’s office soon. Just cardboard–this time.

    • Daniel

      Jesus, even your senator can only afford a cardboard office?

  • Covfefe

    One of the joys of practicing law is arguing over the language of hastily drafted on the floor the muddy up the meaning of a well-crated bill. Can you imagine the legislative history arguments over the meaning and intent of handwritten amendments when the copier didn’t ever coy the whole age?

    • ariel_gee_398

      The ACA was a lot more thoughtfully constructed and still had that massive fuck up about the subsidies for people who buy through state rather than federal exchanges. Imagine what’s in this.

      • bupkus231

        One can easily imagine that careful scrutiny of this bill may turn up unconstitutional contradictions, expecially when you hear about all those “management amendments” added at the last minute.

        The whole process was a perversion of “regular order” – and it should never have been allowed to happen.

        • ariel_gee_398

          Part of me hopes there’s some colossal fuckup that does something that totally eviscerates their plans. It’s entirely possible.

    • Occupied Territory of Kavefish

      Overheard from Senator R: “Well, my coy of the whole age is a useful and sporty fig leaf, and that’s all that matters to me.”

  • mancityRed6

    *flips table*

  • Resistor Radio

    OT: I just made a yummy bordelaise sauce (first try!) that was so yummy I had to stop myself from licking the pan. That sounds super fancy and let-them-eat-cakey but it was simple and I’m kinda proud of myself.

    • Lascauxcaveman

      Simple pleasures :)

      • Resistor Radio

        Exactly. Thanks for understanding. :)

  • Jonny On Maui

    The party of fiscal responsibility. Fiscal responsibility to their owners. What was it their owners said? Give us another boost to our wealth or no money for re-election.

    Is anyone surprised?

    • Wonky McUbtrye

      Whenever I see a bumper sticker that says, “WORK HARDER, MILLIONS ON WELFARE DEPEND ON YOU,” I think, “Work harder, your boss’s mistress wants a new swimming pool.”

      • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

        You should make a bumper sticker, set yourself up as a small business and sell them and get a YUUGE tax break.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        I’ve never seen that. It seems a bit wordy for a bumper sticker.

        • Wonky McUbtrye

          Right? They have to split it into two lines. Bad design.

      • Claire

        “Work harder, some of your money is going to help the poors! Ha ha! Isn’t that terrible?”

        Fuck those awful people. They’re the ones who are going to get hit with enormous medical bills or a job loss and then whine “Well, I just always thought help would be there for me if I needed it.”

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    OT: with this abomination as cover, how many of you think Dolt 45 might try to fire Mueller over the weekend?

    • Resistor Radio

      I wouldn’t put it past him. But I bet his handlers are still telling him he’s gonna be exonerated.

      • Rotisserie Teal

        His “handlers”????

        I don’t think that word means what you think it means. :-)

        • Resistor Radio

          Heh, you’re right. His lawyers, I meant.

          • Marion in Savannah

            Or babysitters.

        • Phried Ω

          Handlers should never turn their back while cleaning the cage.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        Trump does not have handlers.

        Trump has sycophants.

        • Resistor Radio

          And Russians.

    • data_ninja

      I have no doubt that they are looking at their options. And yes, they are crass enough to do Saturday Night Massacre 2: Electric Bugaloo.

      After all, what better way to piss libruls off after passing a shady tax bill than to crush their hopes by getting rid of Mueller? It’s a one-two punch!

      • Resistor Radio

        And the Sunday shows will lead with round tables on Al Franken.

    • Indeniable Ron

      Is that even possible, now that actual charges have been made and people have pled guilty?

    • pstokk

      If so, what happens to the investigation as such? Is it dependent on Mueller personally in place?

    • Tetman Callis

      How many millions of pissed off people do you think the GOPpers want to see physically marching on Washington? Make Maidan look like a picnic.

    • Maclare’s Colosseum O’Crap🏛️

      This morn 45 tweeted that Flynn’s plea means that he’s been cleared of collusion. So if he believes that and is not really smoke screening, he won’t fire Mueller.

      This about the only good thing about 45’s fantasy world.

  • schmannity

    This hasn’t aged well since Sunday:

    Eric Trump: Russia story is a total sham, total nonsense. 11/19/2017, Fox Business.

    Thanks, Maria Bartoromo, for your whorish contribution to the alt-right wing of the GOP.

    • Resistor Radio

      Maria Bartiromo can fuck right off.

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        Sometimes I just go back and watch footage of her losing her shit in the last great recession – so cute….

      • BMW

        Didnt even look to see what you were replying to first because this statement doesn’t need context.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • Indeniable Ron

      Yup. Flood them with objections. Write, call, email. If they are attending a public event, be there with your signs. Make sure they know what this will cost them.

  • Resistor Radio

    Today is a great day for snuggling under the covers and watching Lifetime movies. The heroine usually wins in the end.

    • Daniel

      In that way they’re the opposite of a lot of rock biopics.

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      In real life, the heroin wins in the end.

    • SisterArtemis

      LOLZ, I am motivated to go the other direction. Started rewatching Battlestar Galactica yesterday, a world in which things are considerably worse.

      I may even make my way back to finishing Handmaid’s Tale, which was too chilling for me after the close of the third episode. And I even know where the story is going – which some find wonkette writer or commenter (sorry, can’t remember which/where/when) made note of days ago that in the end Gilead did eventually fall. Still, lots of casualties, and I don’t want to be someone who gets used to holding idle conversation down the way from bodies hanging from the wall.

  • yyyaz

    Let’s get this straight: there is no goddamned “donor class.” Donors are the little people contributing their widow’s mites, the ugly rich are the Owner Class, as illustrated perfectly by this abomination of a “tax bill.”

    • Rick Prose

      Since figures have been collected, going back to the 30s, approximately 80% of all charitable contributions have come from the middle-class or below. So, the “donor class” is us, you are correct, the “owner class” is them, and now they own more than they did yesterday. I’m feeling very revolution-y today…

  • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

    From the polls I’ve seen, fewer than 1/3 of Americans actually support the tax bill. We thought the people we elected were supposed to represent our views. What’s next? Will the Republicans pass a bill giving themselves lifetime appointments?

    • Indeniable Ron

      They might as well. Who’s gonna stop ’em?

      • Tetman Callis

        We will stop them or die trying. Do we have any other choice? I mean, morally and all that.

        • Indeniable Ron

          Nope. Morally we are required to fight evil. I read that somewhere.

  • Blender_415

    Imma just going to leave this here. Different era, but same mentality.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD3RNouwvOU

  • mancityRed6

    I’m one of the people whose taxes might actually go down from this. I don’t itemize. and my insurance is through work. hell, I don’t even have to file jointly next year.
    but this whole thing is bullshit and if the (R)s keep the status quo then look at what happened to Kansas to happen on a nationwide scale.

    • bbayliss

      No mortgage interest deduction? You don’t pay state or local taxes? Rescinding the health care mandate is going to cost you more in premiums than you’ll probably save on taxes.

      • mancityRed6

        I pay state, but it’s Kansas. no mortgage. health care is probably gonna go up, but I’ll be out of this plan maybe by next Oct anyway. no kids of my own. no more marriages.

    • Claire

      My taxes are supposed to go down too. You’re right, it’s not nearly sufficient compensation for having to live in the United States of Kansas.

    • mailman27

      It’s all good if you don’t plan to be around ten years from now. You might want to check out your tax status in 2027 under the new law.

      • mancityRed6

        I don’t deny that this bill is a piece of excrement that will screw over plenty of people. but my status won’t change. I’ll be filing single with no deductions cause I don’t have enough now to itemize. I never have. now those cuts to medicare and social security…yeah.
        that still doesn’t change that this will hurt people, some I know and plenty I don’t. and I don’t want it to pass.

  • Indeniable Ron

    I need a break. Think I’ll finish tidying up the garden before winter weather arrives on Thursday. Laters.

  • BMW

    Everyone is rightfully complaining about the tax bill, but there is still hope…the bill still needs to go through both chambers in its final form (not just the separate House and Senate versions we have now) before it can be sent to the president to be signed into law. Because the reconciled bill will, most likely, be a compromise with the House version, it could still lose support of enough members of either chamber not to pass. Maybe. We can hope.

    • shivaskeeper

      The House Tea Party crazies will destroy it. This is almost a foregone conclusion.

      • Shan

        Why? Because it’s not terrible enough yet for them?

        • Actually, yes. That’s exactly why.

          • Shan

            Holy crap.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Take your victories where you can. Let their fanaticism be their undoing

          • SisterArtemis

            These will be my watchwords today.

        • shivaskeeper

          Yes. All the pork and promises added to the Senate bill are not going to sit well for the crazies. They will not accept that shit at all.

          They are of the burn it all down right now faction. They will not accept delays in implementation. They will not accept some people still getting to deduct SALT. They will not accept any of the promises the Senate made to be worked on. They will not accept and saving of the safety net, at all, no matter how minor. They will send up the same, or a worse bill, than they sent the first time.

          The Senate will then have to admit to the (R’s) that they promised thing to for thier vote that the promises are not going to happen.

          This was a vote to send it back to the House for reconciliation, nothing more. The House crazies will not compromise, even with their own side.

          • Marion in Savannah

            “The House crazies will not compromise, even with their own side.”

            Truer words were never typed.

          • Shan

            Even Kansas shircanned a bunch of the intransigents to get rid of this kind of tax fuckery. I hope it doesn’t take as long in DC.

          • shivaskeeper

            Still has to go back to the House to be rewritten. then back to the Senate. Both versions have to be the same before it can go up to be signed.

            Can you really think of any reason for the Tea Party crazies to support what the Senate added or promised to add in order to secure votes?

        • Daniel

          I guess so. Unless somewhere there’s a clause allowing baby seals to be used to club the poor to death while drilling for oil it’s not going to be horrible enough for them.

      • I’m counting on it.

      • SisterArtemis

        I am fervently hoping this will be true. And also, time to gin up the very valid fears of “OMG THEY WON’T RE-ELECT ME IF I VOTE YES!!!” because of the slashes effecting small- and micro-business owners and the working class.

        • shivaskeeper

          Very much so with the fear ginning.

    • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith

      I’m sorry, I kind of see the house passing whatever piece of crap the Senate sends them. They don’t care about the country, they just needs the checkbooks to open up for the 2018 election campaigns.

  • Marion in Savannah

    OT, but here’s the first graf of a new story in the NYT:

    The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, removed a top F.B.I. agent from his investigation into Russian election meddling after the Justice Department’s inspector general began examining whether the agent had sent text messages that expressed anti-Trump political views, according to three people briefed on the matter.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/us/politics/mueller-removed-top-fbi-agent-over-possible-anti-trump-texts.html

    • shivaskeeper

      Unimpeachable professionalism.

      • bupkus231

        Perhaps – but that doesn’t matter to the yammering asshole and his loons:

        …Mr. Strzok’s reassignment shows that Mr. Mueller moved swiftly in the face of what could be perceived as bias by one of his agents amid a politically charged inquiry into Mr. Trump’s campaign and administration. But the existence of the text messages is likely to fuel claims by Mr. Trump that the F.B.I. has a bias against him and that he is a target of the “deep state” — a term used to describe the notion that government intelligence agencies secretly conspire together….

        • data_ninja

          That’s what I was thinking about, some kind of bias. Because that would be used as a tool against you and your investigation.

        • Rebel Scum with permit

          But that NY FBI office otherwise known as Trumplandia that was giving Rudy Guiliani tongue baths- no bias, no bias, you’re the bias.

        • shivaskeeper

          I don’t care what the rabid base thinks of it. It’s not like they can be reasoned with. What matters is that a perceived, not proven, only perceived, was swiftly dealt with.

          The other 75% of the county that is not Two Scoops or the rage monkeys can see the truth of it.

          • Claire

            Two Scoops and the Rage Monkeys needs to be the name for one of those bargain-bin gospel bands from the 70s who are all over those Bad Album Covers sites.

    • Thiazin Red

      It makes sense. He wouldn’t want people to have an excuse to point to bias to dismiss the findings. They will anyway, but removing someone with an obvious bias looks good.

  • Belasaurius

    It still has to pass the House which, thanks to being up for -re-election every 2 years is much more sensitive to constituents being super pissed off. If ONE WORD in the bill changes, it has to go back to the Senate to be voted on again. And now that the bill has been published, policy wonks can start tearing into it and people can start hounding their representatives.

    • Phried Ω

      What sunny optimism. It’s too early here to drink my way to that.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        fuck it, it’s Saturday. Pour me a double…

        • LosFelizGuy

          My neighbors think it’s coffee in my mug Im sipping. Amateurs!

  • Maggielle

    Well, I’m gonna go read a book for some light entertainment. It’s called American War by Omar El Akkad ( who lives in Oregon). It’s set in the 2070s – 2090s. I’ve just started it. The main character is a young girl who’s been living in one of the refugee camps near the border between the Free Southern State and what remains of the United States. Most of their charitable donations come from the main superpower, China, and the Red Crescent aid workers from the Bouazizi Empire (apparently the caliphate that formed after the Fifth Spring Revolution). Maybe it will have a happy ending!
    L8r!

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Sounds good, I will have to check it out.

      • Maggielle

        Knopf, 2017, ISBN 978-0-451-49358-3. (49359-0 for the e-book)

    • Belasaurius

      i’ve read it, um things get even worse for her

      • LosFelizGuy

        Yeah, not a happy situation.

      • Maggielle

        Color me not surprised.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    The chorus from this 1973 song keeps running through my head today, can’t think why.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXE_n2q08Yw

    • Wonky McUbtrye

      Great song

      • Angela Ruzzo

        Aside from the message, it was a great dance song.

  • Mavenmaven

    There, Trump scored a billion dollars. I’m glad his followers were willing to give up their children’s medical care for him. Ivanka will smile at them from the teevee!

  • BMW

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/these-controversial-senate-tax-bill-items-have-little-to-do-with-taxes
    The bill still needs to go through the reconciliation process, which could conceivably remove this garbage, but…damn.

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      Right. Because the House of Representatives, where Paul Ryan is the “voice of moderation” among the Republican majority, is going to improve things.

    • SisterArtemis

      I doubt, during the reconciliation process, they would remove the most mild of outrages, but I am hoping the moderate and far right wings can’t get their act together to pass anything. We’ll see, but I am feeling quite grim about this.

      • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

        It’s sad when the “Let’s disband the Government and set Washington on fire” Republican party’s wing’s recalcitrance is the best hope.

        We’re fucked, hope is a lie, and only the Darkness is real.

  • Chyron HR

    Let’s voluntarily surrender the country to the party of Medicare for None because Democrats haven’t passed Medicare for All yet!

    What did “””progressives””” mean by this?

    • Resistor Radio

      Mostly “ew, vagina” is my guess.

    • spangled

      the nuts thing is that BECAUSE of the 2016 election, medicare for all is probably impossible.

      even if we get the presidency and supermajorities and could actually pass it, there will now be a 5-4 conservative majority on the supreme court for decades, and they’ll be able to strip out the best provisions like they did for the ACA

      • Chyron HR

        The NUTS thing is that staying home on election day proves that the US MUST have private health insurance companies so that the next time the “left” gets too bored to vote or wants revenge for losing a primary, people will still have some form of health insurance when the GOP takes over and blows everything up.

        • spangled

          i’ve never thought about it that way, but you’re probably 100% right. single payer insurance would be subject to the whims of the ruling party.

          and even if republicans miraculously didn’t destroy it, they would impose weird shit on women and birth control

  • Rick Prose

    Amen.

  • Juan de Fuca

    Happy Nice Time Intermission

    Albuquerque, New Mexico (CNN) Police officers will often tell you there’s no such thing as a routine call when you’re patrolling the streets.
    But when Albuquerque police officer Ryan Holets responded to a possible theft at a nearby convenience store, it had all the hallmarks of a mundane assignment he could quickly clear from the call log.
    It didn’t turn out that way.
    As Ryan left the convenience store on September 23, he noticed out of the corner of his eye a couple sitting on the grass against a cement wall. It appeared the man and woman were shooting up heroin in broad daylight behind the convenience store.

    Ryan turned on his body camera and approached the couple but he wasn’t prepared for what he saw. The woman was in the middle of injecting a needle into her companion’s arm. Then he noticed the woman was pregnant.

    “It’s not every day I see a sight like that and it just made me really sad,” he told CNN.[…]

    “You’re going to kill your baby,” Ryan is heard saying on the bodycam footage. “Why do you have to be doing that stuff?” It’s going to ruin your baby.”
    In the video, Champ is seen breaking down in tears after hearing this. She told CNN the officer’s words cut deeply because, even though she’s pro-choice, the idea of having an abortion was never an option for her.
    “I was like how dare you judge me. You have no idea how hard this is,” Champ told CNN. “I know what a horrible person I am and what a horrible situation I’m in.”

    In the course of the conversation, Champ emotionally told Ryan that she desperately hoped someone would adopt her baby. Champ says the words triggered a change in the officer’s demeanor.
    “He became a human being instead of a police officer,” Champ said.

    Long story short, the police officer decided that instead of charging the pregnant mom with illegal drug possession, he’d adopt her baby simply because he could afford to provide it with a better life.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/health/police-officer-adopts-homeless-opioid-newborn-btc-beyond-the-call-of-duty/index.html

    • Michael R

      Relax , they put Kellyanne Conway in charge of the opioid epidemic

      • Juan de Fuca

        That’s what you took from the story? Nice.

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      I live in ABQ so saw that as a feature story on the local news. The mother expressed her happiness for the baby, too, but I was left wondering why there was nothing about helping the mother to get the help she needed to provide herself and her baby with a “happy life.”

      • Juan de Fuca

        Yeah, I was wondering about that too but it seems as though she’s still homeless and an addict – because some people are going to remain that way. It sucks but that’s how it is for some people, isn’t it? The thing I took from the story is that someone was willing to do something in making sure a baby has better options in life. I dunno. Maybe it’s just me.

      • Suttree

        Because things like that don’t exist. Everyone got their ad time though.

  • Michael R

    Good Morning, We’re All Fucked!

    We haven’t even gotten to ” Happy Nukes Year ” yet

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Next week. That’d be Thermonuclear Thursday.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        That, and Fusion Fryday.

  • Thiazin Red

    The bill is so anti-education its insane. Teachers can’t deduct spending on classroom supplies, grad and professional students get hammered, massive tax hikes on universities.

    You can’t rely on companies for research. Companies don’t do the basic science, make the discoveries or develop the potential therapies. Sure pharmaceutical companies are good at doing the large scale pre-clinical and clinical tests, but there is an entire process required to get to that point. This bill basically says we want all the new innovations to come from everywhere but the US.

    • bbayliss

      It’s a $10,000 tax hike for grad students.

      • Thiazin Red

        My entire stipend was 16k a year. There is already a major shortage of Americans with science PhDs.

        • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

          …and a saturation of useless liberal arts majors. I’m screwed no matter where I go. Canada already has plenty of their own English and history majors serving coffee at Timmies. They don’t need discount-bin imports.

          • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

            Have you considered joining the Peace Corps? One of the greatest requests is for people who can teach English. You don’t need to have a degree in education and you don’t need to be able to speak another language to do so. While there are requests for people with technical skills (medicine, engineering, etc.) there are jobs that just need an intelligent person who can manage a project, like health-care education. You earn a stipend and at the end have valuable experience for your resume, not to mention an opportunity to visit another part of the world.

      • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

        That’s the thing. Right now I pay the Grad School tax on about $4000k of tuition over the $5720(?) that employers can give tax free. Now that $5k non-taxable benefit will be going so I can expect to lose about $150 per paycheck for next semester. That’s $300 per month out of my pay. I need to rethink my budget and maybe click down to part-time.

        • bbayliss

          Condolences.

        • Old Man Yells at Cloud

          If you are paying $4M tuition for Grad school, you must be going to Trump University.

    • spangled

      how dare you! they tried to exempt the religious college that is the devos’s pet project.

      • Thiazin Red

        Right, I forgot all universities except that specific one mentioned by name.

  • Amelia Resists and Persists

    Sometimes I think that, if I were given the power of time travel, I wouldn’t do something big to change the world or try and meet my heroes. I would go back and change my college major to accounting.

    Today is one of those times.

    • Resistor Radio

      Is there a Robber Baron major, or do you just inherit the degree from your rich parents?

    • ariel_gee_398

      I’d go back and Ghost of Christmas Future Jim Comey’s ass, to convince him to keep his yap shut about the fucking emails two weeks before the election.

      • Suttree

        I would like to build a space program to send Bernie Bros to the moon with Newt.

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          I feel that the Sun would be better able to absorb such hazardous waste. I like the moon.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        I’d castrate Fred Trump

    • Belasaurius

      I would major in marrying a rich man’s daughter

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      I’d try and break the grandfather paradox and erase myself from the timeline. I really can’t do math and would suck at accounting.

    • David Chaillou

      I want to go to Woodstock, demonstrate against the Vietnam war, and participate in the summer of love.

      • Lascauxcaveman

        It wasn’t all that great. There was a lot of mud, tear gas and gonorreah.

        • David Chaillou

          One pill makes you larger
          And one pill makes you small
          And the ones that mother gives you
          Don’t do anything at all
          Go ask Alice
          When she’s ten feet tall

          And if you go chasing rabbits
          And you know you’re going to fall
          Tell ’em a hookah-smoking caterpillar
          Has given you the call
          Call Alice
          When she was just small

          When the men on the chessboard
          Get up and tell you where to go
          And you’ve just had some kind of mushroom
          And your mind is moving low
          Go ask Alice
          I think she’ll know

          When logic and proportion
          Have fallen sloppy dead
          And the White Knight is talking backwards
          And the Red Queen’s off with her head
          Remember what the dormouse said
          Feed your head
          Feed your head

    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      I would invest it all in Beenie Babies, The bubble will never pop!

  • schmannity

    Flynn’s plea may have saved Tillerson’s job temporarily. Whatever happened to the Tillerson/Kelly/Mattis mutual resignation pledge that if one was fired, the others would resign?

    • Suttree

      You are the only one of those three to remember the suicide pledge.

    • Thiazin Red

      I want one of them at least, since even though they suck I think they would stop him from nuking something.

  • The Librarian

    From Lawrence O’Donnell:

    Breaking: CONGRESS HAS NOT PASSED A TAX BILL YET. House & Senate passed 2 different bills. Nothing to send to president yet. This is half time. Plenty of bills have gotten this far and never become law.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      I’m not optimistic, though. They clearly want this badly enough to work out any differences.

      • The Librarian

        Yes, but it does buy a little time.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Ryan will try to simply pass the senate version- depends upon how fanatical the nihilists are

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      If the conference committee adopts the Senate bill, it only has to go to the House to pass.

      I’m just sayin’.

    • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

      I email -yelled at Ron Johnson yesterday, who voted for it, all the while television adverts we touting the fact that he said he would not. Excuse me, I need to hurl. BRB.

      • The Librarian

        Same with several others, who, hopefully will feel the pain of unemployment come 2018.

  • Resistor Radio
    • Thiazin Red

      Ew it looks like they’re being peed on.

      • ManchuCandidate

        Trickle Down!

      • Resistor Radio

        Oh c’mon Thiazin, embrace the cute! Everything is terrible, yes, but capybaras are always cute!

        • Thiazin Red

          The animals themselves are, but you have to admit it looks like something is peeing in their faces.

          • Resistor Radio

            In that case, it’s a clever metaphor for what republicans are doing to our democracy?

          • Thiazin Red

            Today we are all capybaras with someone peeing in our faces.

          • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

            They are swimmers! Maybe their pond was closed for maintenance.

      • Phried Ω

        They don’t look like Russian hookers.

    • Marion in Savannah

      On a warm day sometimes you’ve just gotta let the water run on you.

    • Old Man Yells at Cloud

      I hope that’s water and not a metaphor for trickle down.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Hey, lookie there. Twitler is showing his hand again. I swear, he really is a dumb fuck. Makes Mueller’s job easier, at any rate.
    https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/937012899972759552?s=17
    https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/937011707070767104?s=17
    https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/937018451713056768?s=17

    • ManchuCandidate

      Just setting the stage for Robert Mueller’s production of Springtime for Twittler!

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      The ketamine that Mattis and Kelly shot him up with yesterday wore off. It had to sometime

    • bbayliss

      Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
      @realDonaldTrump
      1h1 hour ago
      More
      I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!

      Then why did he lie?

    • ariel_gee_398

      Honestly. He still thinks he’s not personally under investigation, and is clearly not listening to his lawyers, who would have told him to keep his fucking mouth shut about Flynn. He’s raised foot-shooting to an art.

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        I work for a company that makes medical devices. We have to pass every ad headline, every tweet, every social media post, through a regulatory and legal department.

        If only the same were true for DOTUS.

      • Rebel Scum with permit

        This doesn’t answer the question also- who is the higher up that instructed Flynn to contact Russia about the sanctions and the U.N. resolution regarding Isreali settlements, and why didn’t Flynn tell the truth?
        I can’t even. His attorneys must be headed for the vodquela already today.

        • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

          We don’t know exactly what Flynn told Mueller. He could have easily said that tRump instructed him to do so. Remember tRump’s initial denial, in which he said he never told Flynn to do it, because he assumed Flynn was, and would instruct him to do so if he though Flynn was not???? He is so fucking stupid. Mobster-wanna be.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but doesn’t saying “he lied” after Flynn admitted to lying not admitting to knowing anything previously?

      • Shan

        He said that’s why he fired him. If I understand your question?

        • AnnieGetYerFun

          Oh, yes, sorry. So he knew he lied to the FBI, but didn’t Yates tell him that?

          • Daniel

            Yes, and he fired her.

      • shivaskeeper

        The Obstruction charge can and will stem from firing Comey, not firing Flynn. He is saying he fired Flynn for lying to himself, the VP, and the FBI.

        Then he fired the FBI director for continuing to investigate the lies Flynn told. That is Obstruction of Justice.

  • therblig

    if you voted for any of these motherfuckers, i hope you have the shittiest christmas ever. and shittier ones to follow. enjoy the ER on xmas eve when they make you wait for 6 hours and then give you some ibuprophen for your existing condition before pushing you the fuck out the door because you made liberals mad by giving up your health insurance. you sure showed us.

    merry fucking christmas! (there, i said it)

    • Thiazin Red

      I’ve been to the ER on Christmas eve. I broke a toe slipping on a banana peel that someone threw on the sidewalk. I had to tell that story to about ten people, so at least I was able to bring some humor to their holiday.

      • Phried Ω

        You don’t store anvils on your roof do you?

        • Marion in Savannah

          Or pianos?

        • Thiazin Red

          No, although I do have a scar on my lower back that I got from falling off a roof while trying to break into my own house.

          • Daniel

            You should have just painted a hole on the wall and got in that way.

        • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

          I chuckled aloud at this, thank you. Sincerely.

    • jesterpunk
  • Angela Ruzzo

    You know what I want to see? I want to see a Millionaires March on Washington – made up exclusively of filthy rich people who do NOT approve of this bill and who do NOT want to get a tax cut. CNN could cover the 3, maybe 4 people who would show up.

    • BillEGoatSmirk

      Tom Steyer, George Soros, Warren Buffet and Michael Bloomberg? Maybe they could stage a coup while they’re in DC.

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      Who’s left? Movie actors? Nobody listens to celebrities. Jimmy Kimmel is going to pull a Howard Beale because he fucking told these assholes NOT to jeopardize other people — kids especially — who aren’t fortunate enough to have a well-off family like his baby son does.

  • Me not sure

    I posted this earlier elsewhere, but thought I’d leave it here too. Bear with me, I’m pissed.

    Almost all cancer drugs are not covered by Medicare Part D. Because they are administered by doctors in a clinical setting, they are covered by Part B. The sequester, which requires cuts to all programs across the board to offset increases in the deficit, will cut both payments to cover the price of the drugs as well as the cost of administering the drug, a double hit. This bill is expected to require a reduction of $25 billion in Medicare spending. The cost of the drug won’t change, but the payments to clinics will be reduced. If clinics are not reimbursed enough to cover the cost of these expensive drugs they will simply stop ordering them in order to stay profitable.
    That is how the Republican Party is trying to murder cancer patients, my wife among them.
    Pro-life my ass.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      I don’t want to seem unrealistically optimistic, but there have to be SOME clinics that will continue to offer the services, right?

      My mom’s in remission from lymphoma, after about a year of treatments that I assume were paid for by Medicare. I sincerely hope your wife’s journey to survivor status goes as well as it possibly can.

      • Rebel Scum with permit

        People will have to travel farther to find clinics that will administer these drugs. It’s hard enough finding MD’s that will take Medicare in a lot of parts of the country. Rural hospitals will continue to close. If you dont have the means to move or travel, you are shut out of treatment.

        • AnnieGetYerFun

          And this is part of why I am getting a nursing degree. Gonna fight this shit.

          • Rebel Scum with permit

            Good for you. Nurses are needed, and they still aren’t paid enough for what they do.

          • AnnieGetYerFun

            I will never make enough money for it (especially considering the cost of the degree I am shooting for) but I think we need more furious people with healthcare backgrounds in public policy positions.

        • Me not sure

          We have lost 12 small, rural, mostly not-for-profit hospitals in GA in the last four years. Most of that has been due to the state’s failure to expand Medicaid. Many Georgians are an hour or more from the nearest hospital as a result.

          • Rebel Scum with permit

            I had read about that. Not only is it a problem for those facing medical crises, but when the hospital goes, the town around it does, too.

          • Me not sure

            Yep.

      • Me not sure

        You best hope for care if the clinics cease to take patients who can’t pay out of pocket for the increased costs of the care they need would be a not-for-profit hospital. They receive some help under the Medicare law to help ends meet. Whether there is one near you that can provide the services for all who will need it is another question, particularly if ACA coverage disappears. My wife’s stage four metastatic breast cancer is currently considered treatable, but not curable, necessitating treatment for as long as she lives. If her treatments stop it will spread more rapidly and kill more quickly.

        • AnnieGetYerFun

          Oh, god, that sucks. I am sorry.

          • Me not sure

            She’s a fighter, but this shit today hit her hard.

        • mailman27

          It’s so awful that you and your wife are involved in that terrible calculus. Good luck to you, godspeed.

    • jesterpunk

      Medicare part D was already a shitty bill that forbid the government from negotiating drug prices. They have managed to make that seem like a great bill.

    • Courser_Resistance

      Joining you in the PISSED corner. The fucker’s a death sentence for ALL of us. I think of your wife often.

      • Me not sure

        Thank you.

    • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

      Not to mention that all those motherfucker are on the dole with their top tier taxpayer supplied health insurance. Om my god, I feel so stabby! I sympathize with you for your wife’s cancer- I hope she is well… a small spot was found on my breast MRI in July, and am due for a repeat in February to see what’s to come. I want to beat those motherfuckers to a pulp with a fireplace poker/votes.

      • Me not sure

        Best of luck.

        • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

          Thank you.

    • mailman27

      My chemo in 2005 was $17,000 a pop. Times 7. Breathtakingly dishonest fiction that any average person could dream of affording that shit. Shame on these motherfuckers.

  • Resistor Radio
  • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

    Evil is winning because the rest of us are letting it happen. Wake the fuck up, people!

    • Resistor Radio

      I’m awake, but my senators probably wrote the worst of this bill, and I don’t know what else to do, so I’m self-caring by posting cute gifs until someone points me at a solution!

      • Marion in Savannah

        Yep. Those of us down in Deep Red States don’t have many options.

        • bbayliss

          Get on the phone and yell.

          • Marion in Savannah

            To whom? It’s a fucking waste of time to call my useless Congresscritter or either of my even worse Senators. Trust me — been there, done that, and wind up getting Form Letter 47 begging for money to defeat the vile liberals.

          • Claire

            My senator sent me a letter kindly mansplaining to me about how wrong I was about the awful job-killing Obamacare.

            Just – you know, I yell as loud as anyone else. I march. I vote. But the fact of the matter is that my representatives do not listen to me because I don’t have millions of dollars to throw at them, and the people who do are telling them to screw people like me. Protest stopped the ACA repeal so I’m not saying it never works, but I feel like people need to be a little more realistic about how much constituent action counts for when weighed against a donor who’s going to buy a politician a new vacation home in Cabo San Lucas.

        • Resistor Radio

          Best we can do is try to convince some of the “coastal elites” who work from home to suck it up and join us, give us the numbers to turn purple and then blue.

        • Here in NY, even awful GOPers like Peter King are against it, because it bones NY taxpayers, who now can’t deduct their state taxes.

      • FauxAntocles

        We could build a guillotine on the Washington mall…

        • Resistor Radio

          I’ve got some dead trees we can use for the base

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        I appreciate the cute gifs.

    • SisterArtemis

      PEOPLE ARE WOKE THE FUCK UP, or at least the ones who are actually taking in what this bill will do. I’m not sure that’s the problem.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        Well, then, I surely hope that all of us awakened will get the fuck out and vote.

        • SisterArtemis

          From your keyboard to the nation’s voting booths!

        • Claire

          We do. Or at least we try. But an exhortation to “get out and vote,” in order to be anything but facile bumper sticker politics, needs to take into account things like: voter suppression that means people can’t vote even if they try; gerrymandering that means that a majority of people can vote Democrat and still wind up with a Republican representative; and the electoral college, which makes the vote of the urban majority count for something like 1/4 the vote of the most ignorant, uncritical, uneducated, misinformed, and frightened people in the country.

          Don’t get me wrong, we should still vote. But we shouldn’t operate under the naive assumption that it’s as easy as showing up at the voting booth and pulling the lever. Until these structural issues are changed, the votes of the majority will count for less and less. That’s why the US got downgraded to a “flawed democracy” by the Economist Intelligence Unit.

          https://twitter.com/axios/status/881600869300658178?lang=en

          • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

            You are absolutely correct.

  • Mary Theresa

    Gallup 12/01
    Trump
    Approval 33%
    Disapproval 62%

    I’d really like to know how he took a 5 point dive in 5 days. Tax bill? Roy Moore? Flynn?

    • ManchuCandidate

      Tax Bill. I think some of the (blue state) Trumpanzees just realized they got themselves a Tax increase.

      • Mary Theresa

        Yeah, I want to put my finger on it when I encounter the repubs out in the wilds on the internets and shove it in their faces.

    • Old Man Yells at Cloud

      AOT,K

  • Zippy W Pinhead
    • DainBramage

      None of them are actual Christians. If they were, they would have to believe that their actions are sending them straight to hell.

    • ManchuCandidate

      Our Koch Brother who art in NYC, hallowed be thy name.
      Thy tax breaks come.
      Thy will be done on earth as it is in hellhole Kansas.
      Give us this day our daily bribes, and ignore us our trespasses, as we never ignore those who trespass against us, and lead us full into temptation, so to deliver us to evil.
      For thine is the kingdom, and all power, and a majority, for ever and ever.

      Manon.

      • Phried Ω

        Can you do that with a Slovenian accent?

  • Aaron Headly
  • jesterpunk

    My handwriting is horrible because I am left handed and I rarely have to write anything because I work with and on computers all day. But that mess on their bills is worse then anything I write.

    • ariel_gee_398

      This is what happens when greedy, sleep-deprived septuagenarians attack are allowed to legislate.

    • Thiazin Red

      I’ve spent years reading the handwriting of science and medical professionals and I can’t make out half the words.

      • Daniel

        Past “Ia ia Ayn Rand f’tagn” I couldn’t either.

      • Suttree

        I have found that younger doctors write slightly more legible.

        • Shan

          They’re not teaching cursive any more.

          • Suttree

            Well that coincides nicely with me trying to get proper meds out of them.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Sometimes I wonder if that handwriting is intentionally bad so that the evil scumbag will be able to “interpret” it in such a way as to make it even worse when it comes time to type it up nicely.

      ETA: You know, like they interpret their buybulls.

  • Shan

    Where online do the Trumpanzees hang out who are going to get as fucked over by this as everyone else? Are they saying anything besides “lol suck it we WON libtards lol” right now? That’s the gist of the few comments I’ve seen so far.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Homo Trumpithecus Ignoramii, as a species, are too fucking stoopit to realize they they are fucking themselves over at the voting booth.

    • TJ Barke

      This is because they’re vindictive, spiteful simpletons.

      • TJ Barke

        Also massive fucking tools.

      • Thiazin Red

        Yeah, as long as they can slap the food out of someone else’s mouth they don’t care if they go hungry too.

        • Shan

          So do you think that some of them DO know their lives will be harder if this all ends up becoming law?

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHSHHHAHHSHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

          • Shan

            So…that’s a no?

    • jesterpunk

      They hang out over on Dead Breitbart’s home for the “economically anxious” and reddit. Haven’t looked yet but I am betting they are happy because liberals are mad.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        “Fucking yourselves just to spite people you hate is the wrong way to live, kiddies.”

        • jesterpunk

          That is all they have though, governing by spite.

      • Shan

        But none of them are scratching their heads and going “now wait just a goldurned minute” are they?

        • shivaskeeper

          Cutting off your own nose to spite your face. At least it’s an ethos.

          • Shan

            I guess so. I’m just…I don’t know. Am I looking for hope or trying to get my head around how that thought process works? Maybe both. Because I really don’t want people to be so monumentally stupid that they’re willing to kill their own families just to make libtards mad.

          • shivaskeeper

            Monumental stupidity by itself is not enough to get to this place. Overwhelming spite coupled with that stupidity is.

        • jesterpunk

          They dont actually “think” they just go by what Fox or Breitbart say. Both of them are calling this a win that pisses off liberals.

        • The Librarian

          You’d think, but the collective brain power just isn’t there.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      You are asking cult members to admit that their leaders are imperfect. Not going to happen.

    • DerrickWildcat

      They are guided only by spite. They don’t give a shit.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Many have been so kind as to drop by on the GFY (Ms) Sanders thread and share their “thoughts”.

      • Shan

        Oh I saw some a few days ago. IIRC it was just a bunch of copy pasta and stupid memes.

        • The Librarian

          The usual shit.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Believe it or not, they’re still popping up there. Weird.

          • Shan

            Did you see the article about it in Breitbart? I think that’s where they came from.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Ahhhhh……..that explains it. No, I didn’t see that, because I don’t go there. Life is too short for that.

          • Shan

            I only went there because Evan posted it on the FaceBorg.

  • SisterArtemis
  • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

    Reap what you sow, motherfuckers. Reap what you sow.

  • Resistor Radio
  • AnnieGetYerFun

    OT, but I was sitting and reading my Wonket and mind my own business, when the husband, who can’t live without music in the background, comes along and starts blaring Margaritaville from the sole speaker behind my head. I seriously think that song has killed my libido for the next 20 years.

    • Parakeetist
    • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

      it’s always killed mine for the last 20…

    • Catstro

      I worked at a used record store in college, and we got in a Jimmy Buffett box set one day. So, I’m going over it to assess the condition, and I’m checking the booklet to make sure there’s no damage, and I see it…there’s a picture of Jimmy in a hammock, in short-shorts, and you can see his ballsack. It turns my vagina into a desert whenever I think about it, and it’s been 20 years since the discovery.

  • jesterpunk

    The GOP knows they fucked up by supporting Trump and that Mueller is getting close to taking them down. They also haven’t been able to do anything with control of all 3 branches of government so they had to find the most fucked up bill possible to call a “win”. All they have done is pissed off even more people who will vote against their asses in every election from now on. They managed to piss off the AARP and old people who reliably vote in every single election for republicans (for the most part) and without them they wont win another election again. They may not vote for Democrats but even them sitting home fucks the GOP. Hope the tax cuts for the very rich are worth it because that and Trump just killed their party.

    • shivaskeeper

      Every time I think the Party is dead it keeps on lurching along. When it is buried at a crossroads with stake in it;s heart, I might believe it.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        Under salted earth.

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          Salted with iodine-131.

    • Johnatx

      I wish I shared your optimism. The thing that worries me, is that this bill is so God-awful, that under normal circumstances, it would sink them. Does that mean that they know the 2018 and 2020 elections will be so rigged by the Russians, voter suppression and gerrymandering, that it doesn’t matter what they do?

      • jesterpunk

        Or they are planning on “retiring” to spend some time with their money.

    • Tokays_don’t_blink

      From your keyboard to Spaghetti Monster’s ears, R’amen.

  • anon_the_great

    The sun beams down on a brand new day
    No more welfare tax to pay
    Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
    Jobless millions whisked away
    At last we have more room to play
    All systems go to kill the poor tonight

    Dead Kennedys

  • OrG

    I didn’t really want to retire.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Looking for what to give that 1% knitter in your life for the holidays?
    Look no further.
    http://www.tiffany.com/accessories/decorative-accents/everyday-objects-sterling-silver-ball-of-yarn-60558779?omcid=SMPF1&utm_campaign=Social_Media_Shared_Link&utm_medium=social_media&utm_source=Facebook_Share&utm_content&utm_term

    Everyday Objects:Sterling SilverBall of Yarn
    $9,000
    From Tiffany’s

    • anon_the_great

      A death sentence?

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Suitable for hanging.

        • anon_the_great

          A piece in each cardinal point of the suburb

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Suitable if you wish to become an ironic tricoteuse when the time arrives

      • Tokays_don’t_blink

        I had to look that up. You made me learn on a Saturday!

    • Marion in Savannah

      And I thought the $1000 sterling silver/vermeil tin can was bad…

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      “Who’s Tiffany? She’s not a TEN, that’s for sure! Ivanka was, and she was only NINE!”

    • Claire

      0/10 Cat would not play with.

  • Toledo Window Box

    The Republican party is overtly doing everything they can to destroy this nation.

  • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

    How many Americans even realize what happened last night? That’s the key. I think mostly poli-junkies like us know, and the majority of voters have literally no clue, because Election Day isn’t next Tuesday, and most of ’em wouldn’t even then. Still, we have a chance, because if the Dems can get across to Joe & Jane Sixpack just what was done to them, the Republicans might actually go the way of the Whigs, for a generation or two. What can save the Repugniphants? The Dems totally not getting their shit together on the message, or….nuclear war. Given that both of those things are more possible than I’d like, yes, we are so fucked.

    • Kooolest G

      I don’t think the dems need to explain what happened to them, leave it to the guy at H.R. Block that they’ve been going to for years. he’ll tell them all the ways they’re getting fucked

      • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

        Yeah, I’ve heard that argument. “People will fire up Turbotax, and see all the missing deductions and shit, and the higher tax owed, or lower refund”. Maybe. Well definitely, for some, but will it be enough? This is a drum the Ds need to beat till they break their sticks, because they’ll get no help from the 1%-er owned media, including a lot of 5-10%-er talking heads and reporters. I actually have some optimism for ’18, but I was optimistic on 11/8/16, too…

  • anon_the_great
  • Kooolest G

    I think I might go to darrell issa’s next town hall and tell him “my taxes just went up and my health insurance did too, how about yours? (he’s the richest person in congress)” hahaha, like he’ll ever do a town hall again

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      It won’t matter that he voted against the tax bill. He may be toast.

      • Kooolest G

        he barely held on in 2016, see this is california where we don’t gerrymander so he is fucked. orange county republicans are well off but not billionaires. they don’t care about gays or mexicans or north koreans they just want a tax cut, that’s the only reason they show up to vote for darrell issa.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Moar likely to burn the town hall down.

    • bbayliss

      I think I might shove one of his car alarms up his ass.

  • Jennifer R

    Disgusting uggo Blake Farenthold is the next congress critter to have paid out harassment money.

    • bbayliss

      And republicans are calling for him to resign…
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    • Johnatx

      And it is taxpayer money that was paid, not his own

  • I’m off to my granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party.

    In the spirit of the day, however:

    https://twitter.com/bdgrabinski/status/936849863815266304

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Happy birthday to the little miss.

      • Parakeetist

        Skweeeeeeee

    • BosGrl

      Have fun!

    • Doug Langley

      They’re sweet at that age.

    • TJ Barke

      It won’t matter.

    • jesterpunk

      “Accidentally”?

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      I just posted below :-).

      He is stupid, but it makes Mueller’s job easier.

    • TundraGrifter

      There was nothing unlawful – but he lied about it anyway. That seems to be the bottom line for just about everybody around Mr. Trump.

    • Walter Wellstone

      I truly hope Mueller’s team sees this and decides to dig into it.

      • jesterpunk

        You know Mueller has to have at least one person who only watches the Trump family twitter accounts. Between Trump and Trump Jr they keep admitting to crimes and tweet proof of them all the damn time.

        • Johnatx

          God, that would be an awful job.

      • Parakeetist

        Preach

    • bbayliss

      And keep reading down thread, Abramson knows his stuff.

    • schmannity

      John Gotti would have made a better President and Bruce Cutler could have been AG.

  • mancityRed6

    don’t forget to remind everyone you see, this is a “win” for tRump and the (R)s.

  • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

    Again, today, I call for a general strike. Don’t buy anything you don’t need unless it’s used and purchased from a private citizen. No xmas gifts, except for children. This is not difficult–really, it isn’t. If enough people do this, it will send a message. I am doing this myself.

    #GeneralStrike

    • anon_the_great

      Fuck the Children. They have to feel the pain too.

      • Daniel

        The campaign slogan for Roy Moore.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          Won’t someone think of the children?

          Not you, Roy. You think of them entirely too much…

    • Catstro

      I’m buying gifts for all, but only from local businesses. A lot of my friends own shops in town, and they’re all about to get f’d in the a.

    • wait! what?

      Can it be an admiral strike so we can throw waterbaloons?

    • Tokays_don’t_blink

      If I do any xmas giving, it will be in the form of munniez. No stuff for anybody, and I’ve asked people not to get me anything.

  • Holly

    The Giant Orange Fucktater is in New York City – fund raising. He’s being greeted by demonstrations and the protesters are chanting “Lock Him Up” “Tax Scam” “Impeach His Ass”. And this is what happens when Obama shows up in New York City….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdj6uAB0H80

    • schmannity

      Every fucking day. Trump wakes up and realizes he’s not half the man.

      • OutOfOrbit

        it’s a bitch knowing the apes are better than whitebouy

    • Claire
  • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

    The Zombie Apocalypse is coming from inside the houseyour body!

    https://twitter.com/Seeker/status/937028110414856192

    • TJ Barke

      Pretty sure telomeres are the key to aging.

      • Covfefe

        I have found that sex, alcohol, tobacco and drugs are the keys to aging.

        • wait! what?

          I hear you don’t age when you hold your breath, too.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          I’M GONNA LIVE FOREVER!!!11!1!

        • Daniel

          ..like Keith Richards.

        • Indeniable Ron

          Exhibit A: Keith Richards.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          the trick is to go into the grocery store and steal all those little packets of preservatives from the bottom of the food boxes. If you eat nothing but those, you’ll live forever…

        • Notreelyhelping

          They’re the keys to not caring about aging.

      • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

        Yep. Exercise keeps ’em from shortening too quickly.

      • Tokays_don’t_blink

        That there sounds like science talk (spits). We don’t take kindly to that here in ‘Murica.

        • TJ Barke

          You’re not Rebel Skoal!

    • Red Richmond

      Well shit, here I was thinking it was the passage of time that was the key to aging. Shows what I know.

    • OutOfOrbit

      i donut wanna live forever & i donut wanna start over

  • Blanche Beecham

    Okay, I’m down to my last little helper for runaway anxiety (xanax) and I am having early supper with the parental units (Trump-lovers). I think I will be okay as long as Mother doesn’t start with the “the world is respecting the US again since Mr. Trump took office.” I just go full on pod body snatcher screeching. I may have to stop for a couple of airplane bottles and let number one son drive.

    • Parakeetist

      Has she heard of a place called England? They don’t ‘spect him at all.

      • OutOfOrbit

        not seeing that on Fux News so FAKE NEWS!!

      • Indeniable Ron

        You can put pretty much ANY country’s name in there now.

      • Blanche Beecham

        I don’t think they have fux news there, fux news being an entertainment company and not a real news organization….

    • Lascauxcaveman

      Dear God, you poor woman. Why subject yourself to this torture? Make up an excuse why you can’t make it the time. Call in ‘sane’ or some thing.

      • Blanche Beecham

        Thank you for your kind sympathies. I only invoked JChrist through gritted teeth once, which is some kind of personal record.

  • Resistor Radio
    • wait! what?

      Yeah, funding for that just got cut.

    • anon_the_great

      Why isn’t that Good Dog POTUS?

      • Jonny On Maui

        Born in another country. One that cares…

        • Msgr_MΩment

          Could they invade us and install goggies with milk bottles on every corner? Next to the taco stands?

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        Certainly he or she is much smarter.

  • Manhattan123

    How are the Trump supporters going to pay for their opioids and meth?

    • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

      Sexual favors, I’d guess.

      • Parakeetist

        My eyes my eyes

      • OutOfOrbit

        robbing local, librul convenience stores

        • JohnBull

          And then blame the blacks.

      • JohnBull

        Eww. A guy with a MAGA hat doing.. No, I’ll stop.

        • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

          yes, please do! my horrible visual was more about methheads, with their lovely skin and teeth…stopping now!

      • Tania

        The young folk I work with introduced me to the lovely saying “cock for rock”. I know of an old guy who would trade his medications for housework – cheap for him to get at five bucks a prescription and sold for twenty a tablet.

    • natoslug

      Trade a few of their healthcare chickens. I’m sure Sharron the chickens would be an effective Angle to get all the good drugs.

    • Indeniable Ron

      Get ’em from their new connection, KAC.

  • JohnBull

    So happy, SO HAPPY, not to be attending any Christmas parties being thrown by our Republican family members. I’ll just tell them I’ll be tutoring Friday night because I can’t write off educational expenses anymore. And my paycheck wasn’t good to begin with.
    And it’s their fault.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      I no longer have any republicant family members.

      I have a number of republicant ex-family members, though.

      • Claire

        I’m lucky. I have a number of ex-republicant family members.

  • anon_the_great

    The thing that makes my heart ache is 40 fucking years later the Dead Kennedys are still relevant

    • Catstro

      Marvin Gaye, also too

    • Suthrnboy

      Back in our punk days, late 80’s, we used to make fun of Nazi skinheads and their nasty Hitler Youth Rally circle jerks.

      Its sad that joke is relevant again. I just added “Bowling Green Remembrance/Hitler Youth Rally mashup” to make it modern.

      • anon_the_great

        Skinheads beat us, we beat skinheads. A year or two later we were drinking together.

        • Suthrnboy

          Funny! That would be, “We beat rednecks, they beat us. A year or two later we were drinking together.”, from my neck of the woods because the rednecks realized we like weed and Slayer just as much as them!

  • Fartknocker

    So if the Johnson amendment is trashed and churches can have PACs that means two things for me:

    1) JesusCo can start paying taxes.

    2) I’m going to start the Fartknocker Church of Wonkettology. I’ll get us some Soros bucks, create a health care collective, and with our PAC, we’ll all do our part in the House and the Senate. Our first move will be destroy any form of sanctimonious decorum and employ House of Commons practices. If we did this I await one of us telling Paul Ryan he’s a gobsmacked wanker shitgibbon. You want to engage voters? Cool, let’s make CSPAN the most watched show by having our church elect members into the House and the Senate.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      The Honorable Member for San Francisco East reporting for duty, sir!

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      How do I get ordained? Do I get a certificate?

    • Kooolest G

      what it means for the 1% is, they can now donate to a political PAC to help get their lackeys elected, call it a church and get to write it off on their taxes. god truly has blessed america, well some of america anyway

  • Michael R
    • anon_the_great

      I duunno about that. Gimmie 2×4 and two minutes alone with Twilter and I will demonstrate that is a poor hypothesis

      • natoslug

        I’m willing to test it with a frozen salmon in place of the 2×4.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          I’d try it with an old gummy bear.

        • anon_the_great

          Only if after the fish is returned to its maternal stream bed and eaten by a bear. Or hippie. Not picky here.

      • redarmyzombie

        WITH VOTES, ANON!

        • anon_the_great

          No, with wood products from the verdant forests of the Pacific Northwest. I’m thinking Port Orford cedar. Soft, yet flexible and resilient.

          • Msgr_MΩment

            It makes the best cheese.

          • janecita

            I’m thinking that we should use aluminum bats.

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      He thinks that it is normal to be campaigning for an election over 3 years in advance of the election. I expect a few strong Democratic candidates to emerge over the next couple of years. Dolt45 won’t be crowing so loudly in a couple of years if that tax bill is enacted and the not-trumpers see how it has hurt them.

    • janecita

      He is unbearable, that what he is.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Mr Mueller disagrees asshole. See ya in court …. after a nice perp walk.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Trump’s meat
      Cannot be beat.

    • Toledo Window Box

      Says the man about to get the biggest beat-down in American political history.

    • Wonky McUbtrye

      As a lover of Greek tragedies, I’m really enjoying this display of hubris.

      • Lascauxcaveman

        Although I would have preferred the hubris to come to fruition, say, at the end of the last general election cycle.

    • Tokays_don’t_blink

      Has no bible scholar reminded him that pride goeth before a fall?

      • Lascauxcaveman

        It’s not in two corintihians, so probably not.

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      Typo on his part. He’s unbearable.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    Weirdness. I had to drive to the supermarket 6 blocks away because I was out of cat litter (horrors!) and I saw what looked like gigantic birds in the east. I sat in the parking lot and the birds got closer and became helicopters. FIVE ginormous military helicopters, flying west in a diagonal formation. In 60 years I have never seen that before in central Missouri, where there is no military base for 60 miles. They looked something like this, although not exactly like this, but about the same size. They had no markings on them that I could see, and they were flying quite low. Is this significant?
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/16eea4bf9bdb862ff579f09c4afc67c32caa6af15e4d380df93481263235a4b8.jpg

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      I guess the black helicopters really are coming to get us after all.

      • anon_the_great

        ‘Cept it’s a green National Guard helicopter about as stealthy as a chainsaw

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          yup- OD and loud- full of weekend warriors no doubt

          • Angela Ruzzo

            I think you hit the nail on the head. First weekend of the month…National Guard weekend. I didn’t think of that. I’ve seen one before, but never five in formation.

    • Catstro

      DEA choppers fighting the opioid war from the skies? They really do that from helicopters, and I would rather not think about other reasons this might be happening.

    • janecita

      Looking for marijuana fields.

    • David Chaillou

      Remember how everybody spoofed at the rumours of a Nov 4 uprising by Antifa? That was a smoke and mirrors game by the Deep State and the Obama NWO. Operation Jade is about to start with the help of the commie-loving gay perverts that have been infiltrated in our armed forces over the past 8 years. All the active Trump supporters including at Congress level have been pinpointed by NSA wiretapping and will be rounded up tonight, disarmed or disabled, and sent to camp 52 in the Nevada desert. Martial state will remain in effect until a Democrat-dominated Congress can pass laws establishing a socialist police state.

      • Rick Hill

        That’s just what they WANT you to think….

        Eyes conspiracies, nervously….

      • janecita

        I’m really OK with that.

      • Covfefe

        The Second Coming is Barack HUSSEIN Obama rising from his bunker.

        • David Chaillou

          Sharia law coming soon to a place near you.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            We already have Sharia Law. It’s called Alabama Fundamentalist Christianity.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        Gay perverts love communism? That is news to me. It will be news to them, too. So does this mean the Women’s March on 1/20/18 is off?

        • Msgr_MΩment

          My gay pervert friends,
          You’d hit this, no?
          https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51c4PYVgRZL.jpg

          • Angela Ruzzo

            How odd…he looks very nice in that photo, you can’t tell he’s a psychopath. If I saw him at a bar when I was 24 I would have flirted with him. Just goes to show that you can’t judge a book by its cover.

          • spangled

            oh absolutely, but i’d feel real bad about it….he looked like zayn malik + ryan gosling

        • David Chaillou

          Of course they do. Especially the black muslim gay perverts like Obama.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Someone should tell Putin about this, because he is unaware of this fact.

          • David Chaillou

            I don’t think Putin is any supporter of communism. Russian autocracy is a far older tradition.

      • Johnatx

        Please hurry

      • Holly

        I love me some commie-loving gay perverts.

    • schmannity

      CHEMTRAILS!!!!! RUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!

    • Toledo Window Box

      That’s a S.H.I.E.L.D. chopper. If you look closely you can see Nick Fury in the last window. (-;

    • Master Contrail Program

      My guess is that the Decepticons no longer feel the need for subterfuge. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f515b379d8555056cef384642b84198f2075fbcbf303b24c678844f4691fbebf.gif

    • Holly

      Not to worry. The Marines are buying and starting to use the brand new Spirit AeroSystems CH-53 K or King Stallion Air Lifts. Spirit is located in Wichita. They were doing distance formation flight training. I’d bet the farm on it. Did they look like this? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0646da1ec647f1a9fe159ec403ef6f1bdf06020625766c5f22b7fb4004f3b217.jpg

      • Angela Ruzzo

        No, they were a much darker olive green. It was a very dark olive green, almost black.

        • Holly

          What you saw would be painted with a dark (color depending on branch of service) radar cancelling paint.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            So what use is radar-cancelling paint if they fly so low that people on the ground (all of whom have cell phones) can see them plain as day? Not to mention hear them from 5 miles away. The noise was deafening.

          • Holly

            Radar cancelling paint is used routinely on all Marine, and Naval aircraft. In flight training we fly many different patterns, and for these guys formations. High, low, weather conditions etc. Every air traffic control tower in a one hundred mile radius knew exactly where these guys were for every second they were in the air. They were most definitely not in stealth mode.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            What I would like to see on every single aircraft in the world is SOUND cancelling paint. I know, I know, it can’t be done, I’ve researched it.

            I vividly remember the 3 days after 9/11 when not one single airplane flew over St. Louis. It was so peaceful (although not for a good reason). I worked near the airport, and for the first time in 6 years I could talk on the phone while my office windows were open. I wondered how long it would take to get used to this. It took exactly 3 days. I was walking across a supermarket parking lot on the late afternoon of the 3rd day, and a jet flew overhead, and I looked up in surprise.

      • Indeniable Ron

        ‘King Stallion’? Do I detect a certain amount of, shall we say, overcompensation here?

        • Holly

          Sikorsky is world famous for its ….overcompensation…. in all things to do with their aircraft.

    • Johnatx

      That looks like some variation of a CH-53.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        The ones I saw did not have windows on the sides, and the back section was a bit more curved, but otherwise they were very similar to this photo in size and placement of rotors.

    • Johnatx

      See if a National Guard unit is doing training.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        It’s the first weekend of the month, so that is probably it. The thing is, if they had ever flown over my neighborhood in a large formation in the last 3 years since I retired, I would have noticed, because the noise was deafening.

        • Johnatx

          We get them all the time here in Central Texas. Either Blackhawks or Chinooks.

    • Miles Monroe

      JADE HELM !!!

  • Holly

    I couldn’t be any more disgusted than I am right now. What happened last night? The GOP proved, without hesitating a moment that they care more about the political donation machine than the suffering of the sick and those they have trapped in poverty. They have bankrupted the future of our children. Not to worry though, their children will be just fine and dandy. Bankrupt, as in morally.

    • anon_the_great

      Class welfare. Welcome to the fight.

  • TJ Barke
  • Rick Hill

    It’s ok, those republicans have ample opportunities for generating income.
    https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aGe5Pz0_460s.jpg

    • Bananas Foster

      I understand the sentiment, but that picture with those captions is actually pretty offensive in all the assumptions it makes.

      (And in judging homelessness.)

    • JohnBull

      “America man.” These are the people who want others to learn English.

  • Walter Wellstone
    • Toledo Window Box

      Republican voters are morons.

      • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

        Wilful morons. There are none so dumb as they who will not think.

  • ariel_gee_398

    Imagine how these assholes would behave if they weren’t pretending to be adherents of a faith that commands we take care of the least among us, feed the hungry, clothe and shelter the needy, etc.

    • anon_the_great

      Uh, no difference?

      • ariel_gee_398

        Pretty much.

    • OutOfOrbit

      only certain hungry, naked, freezing & starving peeps are worthy of free care

      • Toledo Window Box

        And fetuses of course.

        • OutOfOrbit

          Of course

    • It’s only their fraudulent religious cover that keeps them from going full barbarian.

    • Johnatx

      I actually had a “Christian” explain to me that I had it all wrong. According to him, when Jesus said that, he was referring to the Apostles; everyone else can just fuck off and die

  • JohnBull

    At our local grocery store I overheard two blue-hairs (watching Fox News of course) how their taxes were going to go down and their estates are now protected. I hope they’re happy, because when it comes time for their $80,000-a-year stays at Sunset Acres, they’ll need every dime. Their kids and grandkids sure as hell won’t be able to help.

    • Wow. No facts whatsoever.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Florida?

    • Jacob DiCiaula

      The number of people who think the estate tax effects them vs. The number it actually effects is striking

  • Belasaurius

    Deficits only count when Democrats are in the White House

    • Toledo Window Box

      They’ve now proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

      • OutOfOrbit

        QED a long time ago

    • natoslug

      Oh, they’ll start counting once the impact of the tax plan occurs. At which point, the only solution is cutting SS, Medicare, Medicaid, and anything else that might have a few crumbs left in it, since they are the real problem, not the massive tax giveaway that resulted in the deficits.

      • OutOfOrbit

        so true and a mega bitch

      • Bananas Foster

        Rubio has already commented that they’ll need to cut SS and Medicare.

    • Suthrnboy

      Yup! Just ask Dick “Deficits don’t matter” Cheney!

    • Jacob DiCiaula

      Sane fiscal policy means paying down debt during periods of prosperity. This bill does the opposite.

  • natoslug

    Assuming this shitshow of a tax bill actually is passed, we still have until 2019 to fix things (any fix that doesn’t include thoroughly humiliating the GOP in the midterms is pointless). Or, failing that, we don’t have to start contributing to the brain drain from the U.S. until 2019.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Already checking on citizenship requirements in other countries

      • natoslug

        Canada’s points system is rather harsh — not sure I will qualify by mid-2019 or not. New Zealand, I’m good. Or, going for EU citizenship, I think it’s Latvia where you just have to purchase a home worth $200K (or is it $250K?). If you get a job in Belgium, I think it isn’t too hard to parlay that into citizenship, but I forget the exact rules.

        • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

          I’ll just go to Belgium to partake of one of their fine Soylent Waffles clinics.

          • natoslug

            I love Belgian waffles. And ewwwwww.

      • Johnatx

        Chile. That’s where I’m thinking.

        • Slamtundra

          Not a bad place to end up.

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        I checked. “Job” or “job offer” is one everywhere you go. I already have my Bachelor of Farts degree in History and Sociology Toilet Paper Studies, so I’m not exactly on a “priority track” even for student visas, because everybody wants computer geniuses to do STEM, STEM, and only STEM and I can’t math to save my life. The only way you’re getting a good job as an English major even in Canada is if your last name is the Québécois translation of “Kennedy.” They’re saturated with teachers and don’t need any more humanities grads to serve up coffee at Timmies. They want quantum computing experts to turn Toronto into Metropolis. Germany wants (what else) engineers. France wants, I guess, programmers to automate a guillotine app. Even Britain only wants techies to systemize the backend of the Daily Fail (aka the “backend” of the British press). Japan doesn’t want anyone who isn’t Japanese, no matter how big of an anime fan the potential applicant might be.

        There is no country for liberal arts majors, period. You and others may be luckier in terms of skills and preexisting assets; I, on the other hand, am so fucking screwed, because I’m not an IT genius. None of this even takes automation into account, which is going to gut the job market for even the domestic coffee-servers and Brexit rubes. We’re all fucked, all right. Some animals are fucked sooner than others. But we’re all heading off to the slaughterhouse no matter what geopolitical land mass any of us ends up in.

        • Johnatx

          Sad, but true.

        • Kooolest G

          try france, they have a special visa just for artists. it’s not citizenship, but it’s a residency permit.

        • steinpiaz

          Actually, it’s not as bleak as all that. I’ve got an absolutely worthless BA in liberal arts and I did it. Canadian immigration works off a point system and simply being under 50, having a college degree and being fluent in French or English gives one almost enough points to qualify. You can also get extra points based on years worked or even study at a Canadian university (i.e. you can enter Canada under a student visa, take a few classes and earn extra points just for doing that). In terms of Skilled Trades, that’s an accelerated visa program, but it’s not the only way in. However, even under that category they give extra points for such things as cooks, bakers, technical jobs and many other jobs that don’t require a BS or BA. Also, that changes all the time depending on the job market. For example, some friends of mine immigrated about 10 years ago and the woman was a dentist. However, she didn’t qualify as, at that time, they didn’t need dentists. However, her husband – who did not even have a teaching certificate – applied as a teacher and there was a teacher shortage, so he was accepted as long as he promised to get his teaching certificate in a timely manner.

  • ariel_gee_398

    I doubt we’ll see a stupider both-siderist take on the tax bill than this: https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/936954702129975296

    • bbayliss

      Fuck you…
      One gives the other takes, how fucking stupid are you?

      • OutOfOrbit

        he’s a (R), so …

      • Shan

        And the Rs had well over a year of input on the ACA.

      • Tokays_don’t_blink

        He’s All of it, Katie.

    • Wonky McUbtrye

      That sounds like a challenge.

    • Red Richmond

      Chris Cilliza, Jim Hoft, and Maggie Haberman, and Peggy Nooningtonhamingcroftshirewick all just said “Hold my beer.”

  • Resistor Radio
  • Johnatx

    Good troll a bit down the non-comments. It is almost James Joyce level stream of consciousness.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      It got deleted just as I was replying.

      It was remarkable. A true validation of the shitgibbon when he said he loves the uneducated.

      • Tokays_don’t_blink

        I had a great reply, too. Now I has sadz.

      • eggs ackly-wright

        Same here. I tried to point out that his keyboard was defective.

      • I hate that i am frequently looked down on for not hiding my smarts.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          I look down on you for not mailing me baked goods.

          • I’m at work right now and dealing with the stupidity of a planned IT outage on the part of our government funder. No time for baked goods for anyone

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            Well, I guess you get a pass for TODAY.

          • It’s continuing tomorrow. Continued fun

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            Ugh, what a pain in the ass. Are you at least going to hit the hot tub with an adult beverage this evening?

          • No. Building holiday party when i get home, but that has free wine

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            Well, at least that’s something to look forward to.

            For me it’s all the joy of cleaning up the kitchen. Then I’m going to make fudge brownies, I think. No, I’m not mailing any.

          • I’m going to my mom’s house this week to steal her nut & bolts

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            If that’s some variety of euphemism then I’m not sure I want to know.

          • It’s homemade Bits & Bites, but with WAY more spices.

          • Also, please share fudge recepie!

          • Indeniable Ron

            Partake freely. You’ve earned it.

      • Johnatx

        It was amazing

      • Johnatx

        Though, maybe it will make this week’s Dear Shit For Brains

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          Definitely a worthy entry fo’ sho.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        Fuuuuuck! That “robert” idoit’s run-on non-comment blue-screened my brain for several minutes.

    • Resistor Radio

      In this thread? I can’t find it

      • Johnatx

        Damn. Guess it got deleted.

      • Johnatx

        It was insane. All run on sentences. Bizarre mixture of topics. Think rabid weasel on speed at a keyboard

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          It was amazing! I was having trouble even parodying it because it was so unhinged. The repeated references to “ovomit/satan” really sold it,

        • Resistor Radio

          *searches google for rabid weasel gifs*

    • JohnBull

      I blocked him but maybe it wasn’t a good idea. Keep him on here and he’s not beating his wife elsewhere in the house or threatening local mosques.

    • I was about to add a ‘Lying, or Stupid?’™ to the thread, but they self-deleted instantly.

  • Viktor

    Rich Guy – I’m using my tax cuts to buy twin yachts.
    Me – I’m using the $900 I saved in taxes to buy food.

    • I’m putting the $900 I saved in taxes toward the $1200 I need to fix the axle my car broke because the roads haven’t been maintained.

      • TJ Barke

        Bad news is the replacement axles will no longer be subject to regulation.

        • Sheesh, I didn’t even know they could make axles out of papier-mâché!

          • TJ Barke

            You can make anything out of papier mache! Unfortunately it is severely lacking in the material qualities you want in an axle…

      • Johnatx

        Go Mad Max. It could be useful

      • mailman27

        I’m hanging on to mine to take care of my taxes going up bigly starting in 2019. Plus, you know, cat food. It’s quite piquant.

  • BrianW

    I’m afraid I have to take the role here that Anna usually fills. If this tax bill really takes effect, I don’t see the US lasting another 100 years without a Yugoslavia-style bloodletting. And that’s providing the onrushing climate change doesn’t get us first.

    • Viktor

      I’d rise up and take over the White House and take back what our taxes pay for. But since the Trumps moved in, the place has been infested with roaches and mice. Gross

      • Claire

        Our taxes pay for those roaches and mice too. We should repossess them and set them loose on the Senate floor.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Roaches and mice are the nicer tenants. Plus, you can get RID of them.

      • BrianW

        Roaches and mice of both two and multi-legged varieties.

    • Toledo Window Box

      A hundred? I give it 5.

      • BrianW

        Well, I was trying to be somewhat optimistic. I do think it will take longer than 5 years though. We’ll stagger along like a zombie until we’re at a point of no return. Realistically, I expect 25-50 but am hoping for longer because then I will be dead and not have to see it.

        • Toledo Window Box

          Depends on the competition. China is ascendant.

    • righteous mob

      That was the plan.

      • BrianW

        You know, I hate to think that it’s a deliberate attempt to destroy the country. I guess I prefer stupidity over evil in that department (as if it makes a difference).

        • righteous mob

          It’s a small number of the evil using a great deal of stupidity to effect its ends.

          • BrianW

            Stupidity can be important. After all, I think it was Voltaire who said, “They who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”

    • Johnatx

      Anna, as in our Anna? I miss her. Hope she is ok

      • Resistor Radio

        I miss her too.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          Me three. Hope she’s ok.

      • Indeniable Ron

        No word yet on my end; I can’t help but think this news has knocked her WAY down.

      • BrianW

        She’s still out there. I know she’s changed her online name, and still posts here occasionally.

        • Johnatx

          That’s good to hear

  • SDGeoff3

    Can we just give up and pay the damn Tea Tax?

    • You’ll pry my tea from my cold, dead hands

    • JohnBull

      No kidding. They can take us back if we asked really nicely.

      • SDGeoff3

        I bet we’d have to be really, really nice, huh?

        • Msgr_MΩment

          We don’t do nice. You must be thinking of our northern cousins.

        • JohnBull

          We can give up our guns, Wal Marts, and Party Down South reruns in exchange for health care and safe cities that don’t look like Stalingrad.

      • Canned Covfefe

        With the Brexit thing having a colony back might look pretty good.

      • kareemachan

        Are you kidding? They will laugh in our faces and tell us to deal with our shit ourselves.

        Sigh.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      No taxation without representation!

      On second thought, our current representation is no hot shakes either.

      • Toledo Window Box

        We don’t have democratic representation any more, due to voter suppression and gerrymandering. Democrats win significantly more votes but get significantly less representation.

        • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

          Apartheid. No wonder Reagan was reluctant to say anything about it. John fucking Diefenbaker did… and he was a Conservative, many many people on all sides of the 49th Parallel don’t know that.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        Our so-called “representation” does not represent us. AT FUCKING ALL!

  • mrFawkes

    I’m not totally certain on this. But, the evidence is overwhelming. The Rapture came down Nov 9, 2016. Trump is the anti-Christ. This is life in Hell and Prince, Leonard Cohen, Bowie, Carrie Fisher. Lemmy, Chris Cornell and Tom Petty were the few, the lucky, who made the cut.

    • SDGeoff3

      The music in hell is going to be superb!

      • Heaven only got Mahler and Bhrams

        • SDGeoff3

          I would miss Mahler. Brahms not so much. But hell will have Furtwangler and all the other Nazi musicians.

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            Also Harrison Birtwistle, when the talentless cacophonymeister finally pops his clogs.

          • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

            Reminds me of Thelonious Fartwistle (my old stage name).

          • SDGeoff3

            Oliphant Chuckerbutty.

          • PeedeResistance

            That’s a scurrilous lie about Furtwangler, debunked for decades now like a lot of other axe-grinding ‘Nazi’ accusations. In fact, Furtwangler KEPT Jews in Berlin Phil to his own endangerment. Should have figured someone so completely taste-free he prefers Mahler to BRAHMS would be stupid enough to parrot lies.

          • Dudleydidwrong

            You were fine while you were stating an alternative view of Furtwangler, and I appreciated it and will check it out. But you lapsed into invective and an ad hominem attack on SDG that really was the antithesis of the reasoned approach you revealed in the first of your post. No need for that here.

          • PeedeResistance

            Nope. Not ad hominem. Differing opinion, not to mention that the stupidity and bad taste *directly* bear on the gullibility necessary to peddle lies. It’s not an ‘alternative view,’ by the way. Lose the idiot bothsidesism–we’ve had enough of that today, thank you.

        • Msgr_MΩment

          Bach (The Fifth Evangel) libel!

        • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

          Charles Ives

          • Dudleydidwrong

            There are a number of others on my list but Mahler, Brahms, and Charlie Ives are a great start. Now, if only I believed in an Afterlife….

      • OutOfOrbit

        that’s not how it works, dummy, thee good ones went the other way

        • SDGeoff3

          I thought hell was for musicians. (As if we don’t get enough of it here.)

      • Canned Covfefe

        That may be the only good thing to look forward to today

  • OrG

    Antifa Revolution.

  • Resistor Radio
  • Michael R

    People , don’t be upset , Melania will always have plenty of jewels to eat .

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/295f42e0fd411b104274f2a3ab4647a3b0805c0f732c83c90da9a5e351729ecd.jpg

    • gallbladder

      I, for one, would fucking LOVE to force-feed her diamonds.

      • Resistor Radio

        Does it have to be in her mouth?

        • gallbladder

          I don’t care how it happens. Incidentally, I heard that it was actually Vanity Fair’s intention to troll her with that photo.

          • Resistor Radio

            Oh I believe that. Liberal arts majors, FTW!

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        At both ends.

    • Master Contrail Program
      • Tokays_don’t_blink

        Hey, don’t knock the Aldi brand. Their version of Crunchberries? It has all the berries. All. Of. Them.

        • Master Contrail Program

          Given the dearth of Aldis in these parts I became partial to Marshmallow Mateys. Until the night I ate an entire giant bag of them in a drunken stupor anyway.

          • Tokays_don’t_blink

            I’m not even gonna pretend I’ve never done that.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Damn you, that is not a cute kitteh picture!

      Bleurgh!

    • kareemachan

      Those cheek implants push her eyes up and make them look all squinty.

  • ChumpsForTrump

    Everybody better vote in 2018 and 2020.

    The super rich will have to pay back their ill-gotten gains, with interest, when this is repealed.

    • TJ Barke

      We should nationalize all their capital too.

      • Lord Jim

        Which would be worse than the death penalty for them.

        • TootsStansbury

          Good

    • Resistor Radio

      I wonder how many of us will be allowed to vote after this congress is done legislating? One person one vote? Pfft! Landowners and fetuses only!

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Modest proposal: Salt Russia with the ashes of the super rich.

      • Lord Jim

        Jonathon Swift requests moar babby cutlets.

    • Maybe

      Repeal and replace Welfare For The Rich!

      And all the Repubs who voted for it.

      The slightly good news is that this starts out less horrible than it will be in ten years. There is time to fix it if the Dems win really big in 2020.

    • David Chaillou

      No. That part NEVER happens, even in my dreams.

    • natoslug

      Time to revisit tax rates from when America was supposedly great* — the 1950’s.

      * Greatness not guaranteed depending on melanin levels, sexual orientation, political beliefs, and chromosomes.

      • ((( Augustus )))

        it was pretty good for white guys!

  • jesterpunk

    Contraband bologna?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/contraband-bologna-seized-us-mexico-border/

    More than 200 pounds of unclaimed contraband bologna was seized at U.S.-Mexico border this week, CBS affiliate KDBC-TV reports.

    A woman was driving into the U.S. through the Paso Del Norte crossing when she told U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents that she wasn’t carrying fruits, vegetables, meat or other contraband, officials said.

    She then told the agents that she was carrying sausage and officials said they found 227 pounds of Mexican bologna stashed under floor mats in the vehicle.

    Officials said the woman was given a $1,000 fine.

    Bologna is considered contraband because of its potential to introduce foreign diseases into the U.S. pork industry, according to the CBP.

    In May, officials said they seized 30 rolls of Mexican bologna at the port of entry in Santa Teresa, New Mexico.

    CBP Santa Teresa Acting Port Director Jesse Proctor said at the time that travelers can avoid fines by “declaring all agricultural items they are importing from Mexico.”

    • gallbladder

      Considering that Drumpf is looking to dismantle every fucking consumer protection agency in sight, I don’t see what the big deal is.

      • jesterpunk

        IKR?

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        Probably because it’s Messican

        • gallbladder

          Ah.

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      Contraband Bologna is the new name for my Clash meets Weird Al cover band.

      • LosFelizGuy

        CoBo has a simple elegance

        • puredog

          “Featuring: Kurt CoBo.”

      • Master Contrail Program

        When’s your next gig? I’m all over that!

      • Lord Jim

        Are you hiring? I have guitars, a bass, and a couple of synths.

      • Red Richmond

        I know a guy that plays a mean thrash accordion. If, you know, you need a guy.

      • FukuiSanYesOta

        Sounds like a Sarah Huckabee Sanders movie to me.

    • Johnatx

      I mean, shit, if I was gonna get busted for carrying illegal stuff over the border, I’d go for something with a bit more street value

      • gallbladder

        Mexican provolone?

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          CappicOlé?

      • jesterpunk

        Right? Why bologna? Dont they have more important things to worry about then someone making sandwiches?

    • Mexican bologna.

      Mexican. Bologna.

      Really?

      • TootsStansbury

        Maybe it was Mexican Malarky.

      • puredog

        1. I am sure Mexicans eat bologna.
        2. I am sure they don’t go for the fancy imported bologna.
        QED: Mexican. Bologna.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      That story is just plain baloney!

      • President in Exile Firefly

        Asada what you did there.

    • kareemachan

      So… the bologna can “introduce foreign diseases into the US pork industry”? What, they feed pigs specifically on bologna?

      True story: my SO was flying into the US from Amsterdam. Stopped at the duty-free store, bought some booze and a sausage that they said was good to bring into the US. Customs took it away from him. When he asked sarcastically if they planned on eating it for lunch, one of them looked sheepish and the other looked ready to arrest him.

      • puredog

        Ditto with a fabulous Hungarian sausage for me once at JFK International Terminal (“hog cholera,” the hungry uniformed man muttered darkly).

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Republicants have been playing Call of Doody.

      • Lord Jim

        So, the Ted Nugent version…

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Democrats will take your guns, make you gay and marry a Muslim.

    • JohnBull

      I’m fine with two of those things.

      • David Chaillou

        I think I’m fine with all three. But then again, I’m a cowardly French eurotrash dhimmi.

        • JohnBull

          I’d go for all three too, but I’m already married. I don’t think all three of us could possibly agree on dinner.

    • gallbladder

      NOW you tell us.

    • TJ Barke

      Better cede all of my autonomy to the whims of the wealthy then.

    • Maybe

      Just awful, since clearly you will need the gun to shoot the Muslim.

    • We Canadians are cool with that. Plus forced healthcare…

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      I’ll take that over what the GOP is doing any day.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Any chance I could get a Muslim wife who likes housework? I’d sign up for that.

  • Maybe

    It is time for liberals to start revving up for 2018, starting with this bill.

    Never call it tax reform or tax cuts. It is WELFARE FOR THE RICH.

    And one of our new slogans should be REPEAL AND REPLACE, applied to this bill and every Repub who voted for it.

    Dems lose in part because they try to explain things. This appeals to the mind. Repubs have learned to go straight for the gut, with “Obamacare” and “death panels” and “Make America Great Again.”

    Dems need to be rational too, but they need a lot of emotional, short statements that will fit on a hat.

    • Master Contrail Program

      “Fuck These Evil Motherfuckers!”

      Meh. Probably still too wordy.

      • Resistor Radio

        Four syllables. America will never get it.

        • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

          “Fuck Them Before They Fuck You…Again”

      • Maybe

        You never want to get up to four-syllable words with these guys.

        They can barely spell one syllable words, as shown by their signs.

        I do think that turning “Repeal and Replace” back on them would be effective, whether for a bill or a candidate.

        And we need to label their “tax bill” for what it is. If the ACA is “death panels,” then this thing is definitely Welfare for the Rich.

        Or “Welfare for the Wealthy–” more alliterative.

    • Resistor Radio

      YES. If we can’t put it on a bumper sticker, we can’t sell it to voters.

      (Yes of course we need nuance when we set policy, but we need to have a simple message and be disciplined about staying on it.)

      • Lord Jim

        TAX BILL BAD. HULK SMASH!

      • Claire

        I keep saying this and people just get furious at the mere suggestion that maybe we should, you know, have slogans you can put on a bumper sticker. Or a coherent story we can tell voters when they ask what we stand for, instead of a Powerpoint slide full of bullet points with the names of “special interest groups” on it. Or, worst of all, “Whatever the Republicans are for, we’re against it. What do you mean that’s not good enough? Of course it is!!!”

        Do we want voters, though? Because voters are dumb and impatient. You have to have an elevator pitch. No one is exempt from having to do marketing for their ideas or their people.

      • Maybe

        We also need messages that appeal primarily to emotions.

        For example, I don’t understand why Dems haven’t pointed out that health expenses will no longer be deductable. Seniors tend to vote Repub, but this should make them think twice.

        Cuts in Medicare, which are planned and may be triggered immediately by PayGo, are also fair game.

        The difference is that Dems don’t have to make things up to scare people. People should be afraid–be very afraid.

    • JohnBull

      Here’s the problem–you go to these town halls and people whine about politicians explaining things like they’re idiots. Then they vote for the politicians who think they’re idiots. It’s like we’ll never be given a chance again.

      • Maybe

        Which is why Dems need to improve their messaging.

        This ad is a bit much, but it did well for Lyndon Johnson against Barry Goldwater in the height of the Cold War.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDTBnsqxZ3k

    • EAT THE RICH.

    • gallbladder

      A sensory memory strategery could be just what the doctor ordered…provided there are any left in the country at that point after the banishing of science.

      • Maybe

        For too many of our current voters the sensory memory would have to be three or four short words.

        For the Repubs, for example: fear guns abortion hate

    • bbayliss

      No representation without taxation?

      • Maybe

        I like the original better.

        It’s worth noting that the Repubs passed this abomination using reconciliation, which only requires 50 votes. They have set up a system in which 50% of the country has no representation in the Senate on tax policy.

        Add in gerrymandering and voter suppression (and outright cheating) and they have achieved minority rule.

        Which they use to lower their own taxes and raise other peoples.

    • shivaskeeper

      Good slogans and nuanced policy is a must. The GOPers go for the gut, it’s true, but their greatest strength is voting in lockstep. As long as there is on (R) after the name on the ballot they would vote for Satan killing a kitten.

      I’m not quite sure how that gets fixed for us, other than cutting the purity ponies out of the loop completely. They are not going to vote (D) in an case because nothing will ever be pure enough and all ceding to their demands does is piss off everyone to even slightly right of the ponies while still not getting the pony vote.

      • Claire

        Focusing on the “purity ponies” isn’t any better than focusing on trying to get hard-core Trumpers to vote for us. We need to forget about them when it comes to future strategy. They did something stupid. Maybe they’ve learned better, maybe not. Either way, there weren’t enough of them to push Trump over the finish line if 60-odd-million idiots hadn’t been willing to vote for him because of his racism. We need to get the 50% of the country that doesn’t vote out to the polls, not keep obsessing over people we won’t reach.

        • shivaskeeper

          That’s what I’m saying. If they haven’t learned anything they need to be cut loose. Appeasing them is part of the reason that 50% doesn’t vote. Not all of the reason, of course, but part of it.

          Looking at an intransigent Tea Party loon and looking at an intransigent lefter than left loon is looking at the same thing. The same exact purity at all costs, no compromise ever, thing.

          They are part of the reason too many people think both sides are the same.

          • Claire

            Yeah, but my point is that people keep bringing them up as if they were a meaningful demographic that we have to do something about going forward. I’ve seen way more complaints about demands for purity than I have seen demands for purity. Do we even know how many of them there are? Enough to tip the 2016 election, sure, but there could have been an entire stampede of “purity ponies” rampaging right down Wall Street like buffalo covering the plains and they’d have tipped jack shit if there hadn’t been tens of millions of people willing to vote for Trump because he “tells it like it is.”

            I think we need to get past 2016 and Hillbots and Bernie Bros and “purity ponies” and look at what’s going to work going forward. Some people are just not going to vote Dem; sometimes they’re on the left, sometimes they’re on the right. The more time we spend on them, the less we have to spend getting people who might vote for us to the polls.

          • shivaskeeper

            I agree. I want to not focus on them. They are as lost to me as the most rabid Tea Party loon. However they keep inserting themselves into the process and making demands. Our Revolution comes to mind.

            If I had my druthers, the only acceptable answer to them would be, “Fuck off. I don;t have time for your bullshit. Come back when you have grown up a bit and are willing to work with me. Even then don;t bother until you have kicked some of that misogyny and disregard for anyone darker skinned than you to the curb”.

            They tipped the election to Trump, like you said. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 12% of them voted for Trump in the general. The rest either stayed home, voted third party, mostly for the Greens, or wrote in some other bullshit. Fine. But to come back now, and say I made them do that and I should have conceded just one more thing to them is asinine.

            The fact that they don;t want to own their own choice pisses me off. It’s probably an irrational reaction to them on my part, but I don’t really care. They made a choice to deliberately and with malice aforethought hurt everyone lower down the social or economic ladder from themselves. Own that choice. Be proud of it. Do not tell me your choice was my fault. Do not tell me you had no other choice when that is an obvious lie. Do not tell me I need to respect that choice, because I do not. Do not tell me I need to respect you for it, because I will not. Do not tell me that voting for no change instead of the massive changes you wanted is better than voting for achievable incremental change. Do not tell be that magic works and magical thinking is a valid way to plan anything. Above all, do not do that and then come back and tell me you are going to do it again and expect me to let you in this time.

            All uses of the word you were in the general sense, and not directed at you personally.

      • Maybe

        It seems that a lot of people are most likely to vote based on feelings and not issues. The Repubs have used guns and abortion and even emails to stir up their base.

        Dems need to stir up their own base and they need emotional appeal to do that.

        • shivaskeeper

          Of course they do. Beyond 5he emotional appeal there has to be solid policy though.

      • Maybe

        I think Repubs stir up their base by getting them emotional, while Dems tend to appeal to reason.

        We should do both, but we need some rallying points. We also most definitely need to label things. “Tax Reform” is innocuous; “Welfare for the Rich” is something people understand and can rally around.

        If Trump won’t make Dems/liberals/progressives vote for the pragmatic choice, I don’t know what will.

        • shivaskeeper

          Convincing the pure idealists that pragmatism is not a dirty word.

          • Maybe

            As nearly as I can figure, the “idealists” voted this way because feeling superior to ordinary voters gave them an ego massage.

            That message won’t sway them, so we need to make them proud of fighting against Trump and the Trumpsters. Using the name the Resistance is not a bad start.

            And it fits on a hat.

          • shivaskeeper

            These things are not mutually exclusive.

    • Bemused

      Middle Class tax increase.

      • Maybe

        Accurate, but technical.

        “Welfare” is a hot word. “Rich” is a hot word. They stir up emotions.

    • President in Exile Firefly

      How about “Socialismo o Muerte!”

      • Maybe

        How about socialism for some things (infrastructure, education, health care, etc.) and capitalism for others?

        And nobody has to die.

    • President in Exile Firefly

      Guillotine and torch emoji.

      • Maybe

        Well, not tiki torches.

        And I think Mueller may be guillotine enough. I hope so.

    • puredog

      I dunno. . .”Repeal and Replace” is kind of a damaged brand, but I like the way you think re punchiness.

      • TootsStansbury

        They certainly need a good punching, at the ballot box of course.

      • Maybe

        I agree that “Repeal and Replace” is damaged, but in a way that makes the Repubs look inept.

        If we steal it and reverse it, I think that adds a subliminal message.

        We could even try “Make America Fair Again.”

    • redblack

      the bill should be renamed The Tax and Job Cuts Act.

  • Resistor Radio
    • gallbladder

      I have to admit: I react the same way when I see an acorn squash.

      • Resistor Radio

        Mmmmm, I like acorn squash. Spaghetti squash, however, can fuck right off.

        • gallbladder

          Yeah, spaghetti squash…fucking overrated gourd. Utterly pretentious as well.

          • Marion in Savannah

            To say nothing of being essentially tasteless.

          • Resistor Radio

            Agreed. I mean, no other foodstuff is more pretentious than kale, but spaghetti squash wins the jackass gourd competition.

          • Lascauxcaveman

            I like kale; multiple kinds. Chard, too. But I do know my seasonings.

          • Resistor Radio

            I really like chard, and turnip greens too. But kale, man, no matter what I try it’s just gross for me.

          • puredog

            Remove ribs from bunch of lacinato kale. Cross-cut it in very thin slices, the thinner the better (think: shredded iceberg, only more so). Toss with lemon juice, pepper, thinly-sliced shallots, and ricotta salata cheese. It’s really, really good. It converted me.

          • Lascauxcaveman

            Oh, yeah, don’t eat that woody stick that goes down the middle of the leaf. That goes to the compost. Or your pet bunny rabbit, if you have one. They need stuff to gnaw on.

          • puredog

            My dogs are very fond of kale stems. Being retrievers, they tend to the omnivorous.

          • Resistor Radio

            I’m very, very skeptical, but I’ll give it a shot!

        • Dudleydidwrong

          Minority opinion here: I just love spaghetti squash. But you’ve gotta do it right. And remember: it ain’t spaghetti.

  • HogeyeGrex

    So, Trump actually admitted to obstruction of justice today on twitter.
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/937007006526959618

    Anybody think the Congress will do anything at all?
    It’s like they just don’t give the slightest fuck at all.

    • gallbladder

      I’m betting Bobby’s designated someone to keep an eye on Twitler’s thread.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        I would think he would have several people doing that on rotation. It would be too much for any one sane person to handle for more than an hour or so.

    • natoslug

      It depends. Have they finished passing everything that they need passed while using him as a distraction?

      • puredog

        Not quite.

    • Rick Hill

      Well, there you go. If he says it happened then it must be true. We have only to look at his record to know he wouldn’t lie.

      • WotsAllThisThen

        Maybe he’s just been tweeting insane shit all this time just to try and get his tweets inadmissible as evidence. You can’t believe tweets!

        • Rick Hill

          I think he will go for an insanity plea. He will later tweet that he isn’t insane but just saying so to get out of the charges.

    • Claire

      Did they do anything when he said on national television that he fired Comey to put a stop to the Russia investigation?

  • Resistor Radio
  • Nephilim

    Well let’s just hope all those billionaires, corporations, and finance institutions will spend all those “billions” they will be getting in creating good paying jobs for the rest of us Americans who will be paying more than ever in taxes. /s

  • Jamoche
  • calliecallie

    It isn’t over yet, folks. Call your congresscritter and your senators every day. Especially if your congresscritter is a republican in a high tax state like CA, NY, NJ, etc. Especially if your congresscritter is a republican who whines about the national deficit. Even if your congresscritter is a democrat, call them anyway. If your Senator is a republican up for reelection in 2018, call him/her. Call them all, Katie. Every day.

    1-202-224-3121

    Congressfolk are all up for reelection next year. Wealthy donors won’t do them any good if they’re out of office.

    • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

      Planning on continuing to do just that.

    • thanks. this is an important reminder. i went into depression overdrive yesterday which in my world translates into shakespeare and vacuuming.

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    Has anyone here picked this up? A Dutch law friend of mine just pointed this out to me:
    https://twitter.com/pleitschrijver/status/936969016177983489

    Making a foetus an account beneficiary makes abortion as a case a lot more difficult.

    • Claire

      Yeah, a lot of people have been talking about this. It turns the tax bill into a backdoor anti-abortion bill.

      • puredog

        As one does.

    • Smoke O’Hontas

      Yup. This has been part of their backdoor plans for a while. Red meat for the evangelicals who believe women aren’t qualified to vote. The US is working on repealing the Enlightenment.

  • My hope for the week ahead: We keep this momentum of Officials going away to prison…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b138c53c8de06cb4530efe3a36ef215836a789ddbaea5383f627abb8c9ffd19f.png

  • Lord Jim

    Steal from the poor and give to the rich? Robin Hood – ur doin it rong.

    • gallbladder

      Textbook denial.

    • wavicles

      Alt-Thxgiving holiday.

  • IdiokraticKulturKommissar
  • Angela Ruzzo

    I am so confused. Repuglicans are CONSTANTLY criticizing brown people on Welfare for taking government handouts and not working for a living and sitting around being lazy and using drugs, but then they cancel the estate tax, so their spoiled white kids who sit around at parties every night using cocaine can inherit a lot more money and not have to work for a living. Is this what they call Gross Blatant Hypocrisy (GBH)? I think it is.

    • Claire

      One of America’s original sins is slavery. The other is the idea that being rich is God’s way of telling you he loves you and you are deserving. That’s one of the things that has allowed this “Rich people deserve all the things and poor people are scum” ideology to grow like mold all over a supposedly egalitarian society, that and the fact that people who are not white men are more likely to be in poverty.

      So no, if you’re committed enough to the cause of grossness, it’s not hypocrisy; it’s just rewarding the deserving and punishing the undeserving.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        They aren’t reading the Bible accurately. Fundamentalist Christians of my acquaintance are constantly quoting Matthew 6:24-33 to me, which says “So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.”

        But in fact, this particular section says nothing about MONEY, it only says LIFE, FOOD, and CLOTHES. You don’t need $10 billion to be able to afford life, food and clothing. They ignore the line preceding this section, which says “No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.”

        • puredog

          There are various strains of religiosity, of which the one you describe is one. It is not one that fits their priorities. Claire hit the nail on the head about the actual underlying beliefs of the plutocracy, I think.

        • Claire

          Well, yeah, but try telling them that. People believe Obama is a Muslim from Kenya too, but it doesn’t do any good to try to debunk them. They believe it, they vote on it, and they aren’t open to interpretation of what this or that Bible quote means, if they’ve even read it.

        • godsaidHA

          Since we’re doing memorized Bible verses, my fav is ‘ “Teacher, what must I do to be saved?” And Jesus, looking upon him, loved him, and said “Sell all you have, and give to the poor, and come follow me, and you will have riches in heaven.” The young man went away sad, for he was very rich.’ I can’t stop thinking about that these days.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Yes, that’s a very good one, and I remember debating it with my siblings after church one Sunday. My brother was very firm about his position – he would not give up his riches. My sister and I were firmly opposed. The funny thing is that in those days, we thought “riches” was $100.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        It’s called “Calvinism,” but in modern guise. Some are chosen, most are not. Some are worthy, most are unworthy. That’s the way the deity works under this version of Calvinism. It seems that their deity is an arbitrary jerk with a perverse sense of humor.

    • starfanglednut

      But their kids are (by and large) white. That makes it ok.

    • listen to grassley on NPR last wed if you want to hear an actual senator revealing exactly what the rich think of everyone else.

      (or don’t. i was screaming profanities on clark street on my bike)

      • Dudleydidwrong

        Yeah, I heard him. That was so bad I’m surprised that you didn’t hear me screaming obscenities. Mrs. Dudley, who is used to my obscene rants, was embarrassed for the neighbors—in the next block.

  • kareemachan

    My kid is in grad school – genetics – and was almost in tears about this. They are barely scraping by even *with* university help, and the only good thing is that she’s into her 3rd year. We’ll help, of course, if need be, but this is SO fucked for her, for the country, and for the future of things like preventing disease, birth defects, etc.

    • Lord Jim

      Very sorry for your situation. I fail to understand how voters who despise “politicians” keep voting for so many of them who hurt people.

      • kareemachan

        Thank you. I just don’t get why they want to drag our education system back to the 14th century….

        • Claire

          Because then they won’t have to feel bad about not understanding anything themselves. An awful lot of American politics becomes more comprehensible if you understand that half of it is driven by people who are desperate to avoid feeling less-than, at any cost to themselves or others.

        • Miles Monroe

          14th century wages?

        • Because an ill educated population is an easily controlled population.

        • Dudleydidwrong

          14th century? Uh, maybe the Republicans liked the Black Plague. It seems to fit their lifestyle, assuming they never will be touched by it, not a safe assumption at all but they’re too stupid to know that.

    • One of my cousins is pursuing a degree in pharmacology, using mouse models for autism studies. I have a lot of friends who are in grad school. This punishment of people pursuing higher learning makes me pig-biting mad.

  • Holly

    At 9:15AM the *President twatted out that he knew Flynn had lied to the FBI. WHAT THE HOLY EVER LOVING FUCK~!?!!1111!!!!!!!1!
    *Not my fucking President – Giant Orange Fucktater

    • phoenix00

      Obstruction Of Justice confirmed!

    • Mateo

      “here, Donald, take this noose”
      *hands Twitter Fingers a phone *

  • Marion in Savannah

    Oh, isn’t this just precious? The NYT has a new article up, the first graf of which is:

    “The generation of people born 1962 to 1971, now in what are typically peak earning years, are finding they are not doing as well as they might have expected.”

    No fucking shit, Gertrude.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/upshot/income-us-generations-survey-satisfaction-wealth.html?_r=0

    • TootsStansbury

      I’ll laugh later, once I get past the Nazi thing from last week.

    • Mel & Omah

      Even Ray Charles could see that!

    • wavicles

      Nov. ’61, so there must’ve been some other thing that had me lose it all.

    • LosFelizGuy

      1968 here. My career stalled during BushV2 and bounced back during Obama. Not too optimistic about the current pile of shit we have today. Im seriously getting too old for this shit. No sacrcasm or pop culture refrences intended.

    • this is totally me.

      gen x.

  • mary5920

    This bill is horrible, but not law. It still has to go through “reconciliation” with the House version (who could maybe choose to simply adopt this version) –it’s still deplorable that it’s reduced to hoping some Republicans will throw a monkey wrench and screw their own leadership.

    • TootsStansbury

      My hope is they will AND we’ll still have this travesty to hang around their necks.

    • Claire

      Yeah, that’s the only thing that has me hanging onto a thin sliver of hope. New York is going to get hit hard by this, especially NYC. What else is in NYC? Donors. Filthy rich donors. And Wall Street. People who commute by helicopter from their jobs in Manhattan to their mansions on the Gold Coast of New Jersey.

      I’m hoping those donors get hit hard with state and local taxes and start burning up the phone lines. Or that the Crazy Caucus will torpedo it as usual.

      • puredog

        The state and local taxes thing, had it not been modified, would have hit the middle class hardest. For the super-rich, it will be a relatively minor annoyance, MORE than offset by the fat pork everywhere else.

        • Claire

          It’s a minor annoyance in absolute terms, but in rich-people terms, any annoyance is an intolerable annoyance. Especially when it costs them money.

  • puredog

    I realized I (slightly) know someone who will be deliriously happy about the aircraft deduction. Unless, of course, he doesn’t even notice the difference, because he is insanely rich.

    • Resistor Radio

      That’s what’s so disgusting…the people who will benefit probably won’t even notice.

    • phoenix00

      > he doesn’t even notice the difference, because he is insanely rich.

      DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING!!!

  • particolored

    As a grad student I use my student loans, in part, for living expenses. So I’m really, really screwed, since not being able to write off that income puts me in a higher tax bracket.

    • Claire

      That’s the situation I was in too, and that was back in the early 2000s. I can’t even imagine what it would be like for grad students today.

    • ryp

      This sounds like something a stupidly rich person would think was cool.

    • Miles Monroe

      SHOTGUN!

  • Blender_415

    Fuck it, I’m just going to look at the… bright… side of things. I went nuts on a totally drunken three-day bender after the Orange Shitgibbon was elected, stocking up on emergency supplies and stuff (except firearms). All that stuff has a very long shelf life.

    • LosFelizGuy

      I honestly used last years election as an excuse to curb my drinking waaaaaaaay back. I would probably be in jail if I kept drinking. My indica recommendation has been a god-send the past 12 months.

      • Mateo

        Right there with you man. Cut down my drinking, but indica always keeps me calm.

    • Miles Monroe

      Spent an REI dividend we’d been hanging on to for one of those solar panel phone chargers–with flashlight!–because at the rate things are going, we’re not even going to have an electrical grid pretty soon …

  • Resistor Radio
    • WomanInThePersistence

      Soooooo cute!

    • LadyLaz

      Ok I generally am freaked out by sloths, but those are CUTE

  • Rick Hill
    • dfhart

      Do Montanans deserve better? Didn’t they vote for their tRump?!?

  • Dolmance

    If it wasn’t for bad schadenfreude, I wouldn’t have any schadenfreude at all.

  • Blender_415

    Sorry, but I’m doubling down on my willful, temporary denial of all this shit.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3-oZk-eOzY

  • WilbyToad

    White House liar Kellyanne Conway is now in charge of the opioid crisis. No, not kidding.

    At this point, you may be reasonably asking yourself questions like “what the f–k?” or “no, seriously, what the f–k?” An astute point on your part. In the entire history of Team Garbage Fire, there has been no evidence that Kellyanne Conway could manage any task more complicated than shouting at a television camera and looking smug for 15 seconds afterward. Her behavior suggests, if anything, someone who has already had a few too many of The Drugs, rather than someone you might trust to reduce the supply.

    by Hunter, DAILY KOS

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/2/1719917/-White-House-liar-Kellyanne-Conway-is-now-in-charge-of-the-opioid-crisis-No-not-kidding

    Simply put, BULLSHIT EVERYTHING.

    • Claire

      I feel like this would all be more understandable if the headline were “Trump Puts Kellyanne Conway in Charge of the Opioids.”

      • WilbyToad

        The Opioids, they love me!

      • CATMAN

        A mind-numbing toady to be put in charge of mind-numbing drugs–another brilliant Trump move

        • WilbyToad

          I’ll have you know my secretions are mind enhancing.

  • SDGeoff3

    Since the thiry-something percent have no intention ever of voting for a non-nazi, all we can do is wait for these shameless motherfuckers to fucking die.

  • CATMAN

    This bill is just common, everyday whoring by the Republicans on behalf of their rich donors and will be supported by them and the Trump voters who are too stupid to know they are about to be screwed

    • george lastrapes

      It’s a no-brainer for a donor. Give a million, get a billion, and what should he care if it costs the hoi polloi a trillion?

  • LadyLaz

    Y’all saw a bit of good news, right? That nice Oklahoma gay lady beat the shit out of the R.

    There is a reason why these republican shits rushed that stupid tax bill through with HAND written changes. They know their time has come.

    You know that shit over democrats loosing th south for a generation? Yeah well the republicans lost this middle of the road forever. Never again will I pull a lever for a republican, which makes me sad (because our magistrate here is a damn solid one, but an R)

    I note i am cussing a bit. I must be het up.

  • This pretty much lays to rest the idea that the Republican party is in any way financially conservative. You don’t jack with one of the largest economies in the world in the middle of the night, with a bill written partially in crayon, that no one was able to read. Especially if you’ve been warned that it will add over a trillion dollars to the deficit. There’s nothing “conservative” about that, unless driving the engine over the cliff is a sound financial decision, somehow.

    • counterlife

      No one should be uses the word “conservative” to describe the current Republican party, even if modified by “extreme”. Nothing they do is to conserve anything, it is only to add wealth and power to the already extremely wealthy (including themselves) by destroying everything and everyone else that may hinder their quest for all of it. May I suggest that when referring to the modern Republican party, the word conservative be replaced with “destructive reactionary”. You may also add “greedy motherfuckers” if you like.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Also “pedophiles.”

    • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

      It’s been obvious for decades. And yet, people still believe it.

    • phoenix00

      This is out of a banana republic. Simple as that.

  • sosuume
  • mardam422

    But I’m gonna be rich someday. So…win!!!

    • Duke

      My brother used to say that. These days, he seems to do well but his family is poor. He’s a RWNJ ass.

  • Duke

    They have to pass the final bill.

    • tehbaddr

      Yes, and they will hear an ear-load from their constituents during their Holidays! I suggest everybody who can get at them, or if they dare go to a town meeting or what not, ream them a new one for their crass gluttony!

  • tehbaddr

    Fuck the Rat Bastard Rethuglicans! They have no idea what they have started!

    • Noah Vale

      They know EXACTLY what they’ve started. It’s called Economic Recovery; a growing economy and job creation. It’s time the government took their hand out of my pocket and actually lived within their means.

      • puredog

        Since this gentleman is expressing his mistaken opinion calmly and lucidly and cogently, I hesitate to call him a troll. Maybe he just looks like a troll in these pinko environs. I will defer to the General Assembly. In the meantime, we should keep on snarking on.

        • tehbaddr

          Just took a look at his history, RWNJ troll, or the best parody I’ve ever seen!

          • Noah Vale

            RW, yes. NJ, no. It’s called being a logical adult.

          • If you’re RW, you are by default NJ. Simple adult logic.
            Oh, and also a selfish asshole. That too.

          • Noah Vale

            Nice comeback. Can you have an intelligent debate without name calling? No, you can’t. Points to a serious lack of education resulting in an inability to express yourself without invective. I bet you yell a lot, too.

          • Says the guy who comes in insulting everyone.
            However, in this case, it was not an insult, merely a simple statement of actual fact.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            You might want to look at which party, and which presidents were the all time biggest deficit spenders. Saint Ronnie takes the cake with a whopping 168% debt increase, that he accomplished with tax cuts.

        • Noah Vale

          Well said, Kemo Sabe.

      • tehbaddr

        I’m gonna hazard a guess that you live in one of them Red States, that get’s by on the productivity of other states.

        • Noah Vale

          You’d hazard wrong, Gunga Din. Please explain how Red States get by on the productivity of other states. I would really like to know.

          • keinsignal

            Most Federally Dependent States (http://bit.ly/1JJgWFi)
            (ranked most to least dependent on federal funds)
            1 Kentucky 76.16 6 5
            2 Mississippi 75.59 7 1
            3 New Mexico 73.88 3 17
            4 Alabama 72.45 4 14
            5 West Virginia 68.97 5 15
            6 South Carolina 68.17 2 31
            7 Montana 65.91 14 4
            8 Tennessee 61.76 20 3
            9 Maine 61.02 13 9
            10 Indiana 59.18 7 23
            11 Arizona 59.08 15 11
            12 Louisiana 55.39 40 2
            13 South Dakota 53.57 24 7
            14 Missouri 52.66 31 6
            15 Oregon 51.51 23 10
            16 Georgia 49.81 34 8
            17 Idaho 49.64 19 19
            18 Vermont 49.56 18 20
            19 Wyoming 48.80 26 12
            20 Maryland 48.18 11 32

            46 California 25.36 41 43
            47 Illinois 23.96 48 41
            48 New Jersey 23.84 49 39
            49 Minnesota 23.09 43 44
            50 Delaware 21.32 50 42

          • Noah Vale

            Wallet Hub has used a methodology that supports their political viewpoint. This is a seriously flawed study and was manipulated to make Red States look like takers. Density of population, per capita income, and cost of living needed to be factored in and they weren’t.
            I’d like to see an objective study without a political component that skews the results.

          • Yes. Everything that does not agree with you MUST be skewed by methodology. Even one that uses basic math to point out GDP, Growth and incomes.

          • Noah Vale

            You might want to read the article and the methodology used to arrive at the results before you weigh in. GDP and growth weren’t used. But, then lack of knowledge never stopped someone like you from spouting off.

          • But, then lack of knowledge never stopped someone like you from spouting off.
            The projection show is ON tonight.
            Oh, and I did read the methodology. Means and averages are sort of 4th grade things and not really skewed by anything even if it says something you do not like.

      • Says the guy who claims to have retired at 55 and is living the high life.
        So economically anxious. Yes.

        • Noah Vale

          You’ve confused me with someone else. No retirement at 55. Still running the business I started 20 years ago at 46.
          But, I am living the high life.

          • Odd Jørgensen

            Meth is bad for you. It may seem like the high life now, but…
            nvm you do you.

  • Lefty Wright

    This reminds me of the North Carolina income tax from a few years ago. The legislature provided a handy dandy on line calculator to figure your savings. A lot of people making $40,000 or less ended up paying more total tax and fees after their income tax cut. Because they raised sales tax on things like electricity and lp gas for heating and added sales tax on mechanics charges and haircuts. But failed to increase the already low sales tax cap on things like planes, yachts, and luxury cars.

  • Michael Lindsay

    An act of self inflicted national harm on par with Brexit, probably worse. If there is a repeat of the financial crisis, more so and more likely now that the Republicans have given the banks permission to do whatever the hell they want.

    • MC Planck

      Definitely worse.

    • See also: 1920s. Which was the last time we tried something this stupid.
      Turned out so well didn’t it?

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Have you forgotten the Bush years already? This is the same stupidity Republicans did then, and look at what a delight that was.

  • Swampgas_Man

    Counting on some shred of hope here– is there any possibility that a court will find the illegible scrawlings constitutionally incompatible with actual law? Serious question here.

    • They won’t be illegible scrawlings once entered into the Congressional Record. Once entered into the Congressional Record, it is law.

    • Noah Vale

      That’s what’s called the “mark up” version of the bill. It’s not the final draft that was voted on. Elizabeth Warren knows that, but it doesn’t play into her narrative to be truthful with the voters. Nancy Pelosi told me we had to pass the bill to find out what’s in it. No … wait … that was the 1800 page Affordable Care debacle.
      My bad …

      • No, it really was the actual thing they were handed.

        • Noah Vale

          Yes, during mark up. But, not at the time of the vote. Get your facts straight.

          • phoenix00

            Please. We’re not the ones with fact problems.

      • RugzYaBurnt

        So that’s what it looks like when Jon Voight gets hate-fucked by Smokey the Bear!

        • Noah Vale

          Clever! That sure put me in my place. Are you from Minnesota by chance? I know a lot of morons who think they’re funny come from there.

          • RugzYaBurnt

            In your place? You mean in a virtual room where you’re attempting to bloviate to strangers who don’t care about you because no real people will have your company? I’d say you wandered in yourself, son!

          • RugzYaBurnt

            In your place? You mean in a virtual room where you attempt to bloviate at strangers who don’t care about you because no real people will have your company? I’d say you wandered in yourself, son!

      • no that’s not what she told you.

        and if you’re smart you know that.

        • He’s an adult logical who retired at 55 a few years ago but did worse under Obama.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        That’s a common wingnut talking point, that’s completely wrong. It took 2 years, and countless commitee hearings before the ACA became law.

  • reelreeler

    Can’t wait for the Trump/GOP voters to discover that the billionaire/corporate “trickle-down” smells not like cash, but like urine…..Or is it possible they are they too dumb to know the difference?

    • We did this before, in the 80s. And before that in the 20s. Did not work either of those two times.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Also, the early 1960s, and 2001 and 2003 (tax cuts that are still not paid for!).

  • J. M. Tusks, Esq.

    What a smash and grab job. They know the rot of Donald Trump will catch up with them all, so they went all in for one final grift before the end.

    • yup and i really think this round of meth driven vote-o-rama was because they knew flynn – and the rest of winter – was coming.

    • phoenix00

      DT is the GOP’s useful idiot clown to distract the MSM and the rubes while they rob the country blind.

      Don’t be surprised if they call the 25th Amendment the day after reconciliation and DT’s signature goes onto the final tax cut bill.

  • GregBrady

    It’s time for a flat tax… 15% for everyone. That would be the only “fair” tax. Almost half the population pays nothing and yet consumes services paid for by others. Talk about fucking inequity… Get some skin in the game like everyone else has and stop whining about how the rich don’t pay enough.

    • J. M. Tusks, Esq.

      I’m sure the people who don’t have to pay tax would love to switch places with you.

      • GregBrady

        Fair is fair. And oh, taxation is theft. Not my job to pay for other people’s failure.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          ? No, but it’s a good investment that has a positive impact on your community and way of life. (Also,a cornerstone of civilization, but whatevs)

          • J. M. Tusks, Esq.

            No man, you see, he did it all by himself. He doesn’t owe anything to the contract or employment laws that let him get paid, or the infrastructure that lets him get to work every day, or the police who protect him while he sleeps. That was all him.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            yeah, he prolly doesn’t use that there internetz either – he beams his work-related emails directly from his brain to the client’s brain.

            SELF SUFFICING!

          • This is the guy who claims to have retired a few years back at the age of 55.
            But he has SUCH a horrible time of it. Yes.

          • Noah Vale

            Wow, you and Space Tacos are a fine pair of Barry Soreto acolytes. Did your standard of living improve under the Reign of Hussein? Yeah, mine neither.

          • J. M. Tusks, Esq.

            Um. Yes?

          • Noah Vale

            Really? Must have been the food stamps, Obama phone, and SSI that helped the ole Standard of Living, huh?

          • Tania

            Wasn’t the phone actually a Reagan phone?

          • Lol, your lot did improve.
            You are a moron.

          • Noah Vale

            Got anything besides name calling? No, guess not. That would take the ability to form a cogent argument.

          • CripesAmighty

            Not our fault you’re lazy and stupid. Bootstraps, man. Guess you missed Dow 6000–20,000 (based on real earnings growth, as opposed to tax-giveaway mania).

          • Noah Vale

            Hmmm … worst recovery in American history. Increase of food stamp receipients from 15 million to 50 million. More people left the workforce than ever before. So much for your disingenuous defense of the Soreto years.
            And don’t tell me about bootstraps, man. High school grad here. Built three businesses over the last 30 years. Net worth in excess of you and all your friends put together.
            Skipped the gold coins. Invested in myself.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            worst recovery in American history. Increase of food stamp receipients from 15 million to 50 million. More people left the workforce than ever before

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b645e9023e46d3d0f66e0e1788417d8d2a99e7225dfc74ed59ba925f28bd6b3b.jpg

          • phoenix00

            > Built three businesses over the last 30 years. Net worth in excess of you and all your friends put together.
            Skipped the gold coins. Invested in myself.

            LIST. THEM. Post your tax returns.

            Wait, your Fuhrer refuses, I bet you will too.

          • Old Nick

            Bet not. Net worth that is.

          • CripesAmighty

            Yeah? Well, if yew wuz such a bidniss geenyus, then it would stand to reason that your living standards would have improved. Or is it *always* somebody else’s fault? Party of Personal Responsibility, Sunshine.

          • BigCSouthside

            My investment portfolios more than doubled under obama. My salary doubled and I entered the job market as the market crashed. I went from renting overpriced apartments to owning a nice house. Basically I went from lower middle to upper middle class in 8 years. I’m actually much better off than most people my age.

            Maybe you’re just too fucking stupid to be successful?

          • He claimed yesterday he retired, a few years ago, at the age of 55.
            Methinks he is just a liar.

          • Dudleydidwrong

            Russian bots have lousy memories.

          • Pisto75666

            Wow. won’t he be surprised when his Medicare and retirement fund goes bye-bye. We won’t be surprised but…

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Stocks tripled under Obama, and my house value doubled. I would think a wealthy investor like you would have noticed your investments had tripled. I’m just happy that you won’t be getting any Social Security, since you’re clearly a college kid. Sucks to be you!

          • Noah Vale

            I surrender. This is clearly a forum for disingenuous libs who suffer from class envy and a total lack of tolerance for an opposing point of view. I can’t fix in a few posts that which your parents and the public school system failed to do.
            I’m glad you had success under the Reign of Hussein and it’s only going to get better.
            President Trump will provide you with even greater economic opportunities whether you like it or not.
            You’re welcome …

          • phoenix00

            > President Trump will provide you with even greater economic opportunities whether you like it or not.

            Enjoy your ONE TRILLLLION in extra deficit! I know I will!

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Lol, that’s cute when you call actual facts the product of public schools. FYI, I was an actual millionaire before the bank collapse and Great Recession of 2008 (note this happened when Bush was president).

          • Jennaratrix

            You need to go outside and breathe some fresh air. If you think Trump is going to provide anyone other than himself with greater economic opportunities, you’ve been breathing in carbon monoxide for too long and are probably about a minute and a half away from death.

          • Tania

            Could you provide some details on that seeing as he doesn’t seem to have delivered on anything else yet?

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            ??
            Assuming that’s true, BIG IF, it didn’t crater – which is where it was headed and is again heading that way thanks to Trump.

          • redblack

            i love it when you guys misspell obama’s made-up RWNJ hillbilly conspiracy theory name.

          • MC Planck

            He also invented literacy, fire, and the wheel. He’s a clever one, ain’t he!
            LOL FROM CRYSTAL

        • J. M. Tusks, Esq.

          Then feel free to remove yourself from civilized society at any time. We won’t stop you.

          • MC Planck

            Taxes are the price we pay for society’s goods. Like language, fire, and the wheel.

            I keep inviting these anti-taxers to invent their own language, but they never do.

          • Maybe

            On the contrary. The only way right-wingers ever “win” arguments is by changing what words mean.

            As in, taxation is theft.

        • MC Planck

          If it’s not too much trouble, could you please put the “tax is theft” in the first comment? Saves a lot of time when deciding whether to reply or just block.

        • Maybe

          Taxation is not theft. It’s taxation.

          And if you don’t want to pay taxes then don’t drive on my roads.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          Who pays for your grandma’s medical bills? If you’re like every other RWNJ I know, I DO !!!!!

        • phoenix00

          Sure, if your house somehow gets set on fire, don’t count on the fire dept to put it out.

          Sure, if you or a family member collapses from a heart attack or stroke, don’t expect paramedics or an ambulance to come resuscitate your ass.

          Sure, if you get thirsty, go dig your own well cuz you ain’t getting filtered treated drinking water in a pipe.

          Sure, if you go take a shit, go to some outhouse since there are no sewers nor treatment plants. Oh did I mention clean up your literal shit afterwards.

          I would also say “educate yourself” since there will be no teachers, but you’re plenty stupid and simply incapable, but that’s implied.

          • Unsaintific

            👏👏👏👏👏👌👍

        • redblack

          it’scalled the american social contract. we are one nation, and we take care of each other.

          and, yeah, that includes people you would rather avoid.

        • RocketRoach

          Rent is theft.

          Just because the gubbermint says so, it doesn’t mean I owe you anything, hypothetical slum-lord.

        • Jennaratrix

          The only other person I know who regularly claims “TAXATION IS THEFT!” is my nephew, who is in the Army National Guard. So my taxes pay his salary. And I’m waiting for him to give those ill-gotten gains back.

          And waiting. And waiting. And waiting…

        • Gorillionaire

          So stop paying your taxes, asshole. If you really believe in your “principles”, take a fucking stand and don’t pay your taxes, go to prison and be committed to your cause.

        • Elizabeth Detrich

          Oh look at you! All bah humbug just three weeks before Christmas!
          Lookie here Scrooge… All public services are paid for by taxes collected and managed by local, state and federal government.

          Just how do you propose to pay for road repairs, bridges, water mains, waste collection, schools, the military, government services (court system/judges) and the like?
          Or are only the wealthy worthy?

    • SayItWithWookies

      What the fuck does “skin in the game” mean, exactly? Oh, wait — it looks like it’s just a way of saying the people who don’t know where their next meal is coming from somehow have it easier than the rest of us.

      What horseshit. Taxes are rightly progressive because the more money one has beyond basic necessities, savings for retirement and various contingencies and a few luxuries, the less productive that money is. If you want to live a country with a small number of vast pools of money, help yourself to Nigeria, or barring that, name a country whose tax policy you find admirable.

    • tinker12

      You are a know-nothing.

      • Maybe

        He “knows” what he’s told to know by right-wing media–which is owned by the rich.

    • Flat Tax is the second stupidest economic idea, next to the idea that the rich pay too much, which is the stupidest.

    • Maybe

      You really think the rich would end up paying? They already have a lower rate for investments. They have a lower rate for hedge fund income. They want no estate tax, even though much of that money has never been taxed. (Investment profit isn’t taxed until the investment is sold; if inherited the heirs get is at current market value and could sell if immediately and pay no taxes.)

      Our system is working great for the rich. Income inequality is the highest it’s been for many decades.

      • ChumpsForTrump

        That’s my favorite detail about our tax system.. you only have to pay the sticker price if you actually work for a living.

        Money you make off the work of others, often just by virtue of being born rich, gets an enormous discount.

        Must be nice to be able to purchase whatever laws benefit you most.

    • Liquid Tomato

      Fuck that noise. It’s time for a radically progressive tax. Every ten years every billionaire gets taxed down to one billion.

      • MC Planck

        I believe in the whole house: capitalism with walls, a floor, and a ceiling. Every year we tax everybody down to 10 million. Who needs more than that?

    • YayConspiracy

      We need a flat tax like we need a hole in our heads.

    • Jennaratrix

      I have plenty of skin in this game; my husband and I paid higher taxes in 2015 than his multi-billion dollar employer did. Not a higher rate; we actually paid more dollars, because of all of the corporate tax cuts and incentives. The rich DON’T pay enough. You just believe that you’re gonna get there someday and be able to screw the little guy over the way you’ve been getting screwed over for your whole life, so you don’t want the system to change before you can benefit from it. I have a newsflash for you: you’ll never get there. The system is rigged against you, and you’re drinking the fucking Kool-Aid. Wake up.

  • Sunhead

    Just sayin…
    This is the kind of situation they had in mind when they wrote the 2nd amendment to the constitution.

  • I’m surprised they didn’t write it on Drumpf stationary… But I guess that would be too obvious.

    • Maybe

      Besides, they would have had to use crayons. I don’t think they let The Donald have sharp objects.

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    https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/937283289030774784?s=17
    Lmao what? Miller is correct of course.
    No one believes you, Orangium, except your rabid base. you ignorant syphilitic pustule.

  • Jany
  • Odd Jørgensen

    We know that it officially declares that life begins at conception

    Since when does tax bills decide medical terminology?

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