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On a party-line vote Thursday night, Senate Republicans passed a budget blueprint that sets the stage for a real budget that will blow up the deficit and make huge cuts to Medicare and Medicaid. And under the weirdass rules of Senate procedure, it also allows the Senate to pass huge tax cuts for the wealthy through the budget reconciliation process, meaning the tax cuts won’t be subject to a Democratic filibuster. Now that this bit of procedural fuckery is out of the way, Republicans can get to the important work of making the obscenely rich even richer while boning the elderly and poor, exactly as the Founders wanted. The measure passed 51 to 49, with only one Republican voting against it: Rand Paul, who still clings to the sentimental Republican doctrine that deficits are always bad, even when Republicans are in power. He’s sort of cute that way, the .5 percent of the time when he’s not being a complete dick.

The budget outline includes $1 trillion in cuts to Medicare over 10 years, and $500 billion in cuts to Medicaid, because once the Trump tax cuts kick in, no one will be poor anymore, and the resulting economic growth will actually reverse Americans’ aging processes. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer seemed unaware of the flawless logic behind the plan:

This nasty and backwards budget green lights cuts to Medicare and Medicaid in order to give a tax break to big corporations and the wealthiest Americans. It shifts the burden from the wealthy and puts it squarely on the back of the middle class, and blows a hole in the deficit to boot […] I think it will go down in history as one of the worst budgets Congress has ever passed.

The budget plan was supported by some Republicans who had warned it was a bad idea, but not a bad enough idea to actually vote against, of course:

“The budget’s a sham,” Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.) said at a recent Koch-backed group’s gathering of wealthy donors in New York. “It has nothing to do with reality. … It’s a tool to get to reconciliation.”

Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) called the budget a “hoax” on Thursday.

Since the bill isn’t an actual budget, but rather a set of instructions for what the Senate can include in a real budget bill that would be passed by reconciliation, the details are all subject to change by the time the final legislation gets written — probably in secret, to be sprung at the last minute to reduce troublesome debate and opposition from Democrats. It includes instructions for a tax cut package, although there again the exact details remain to be framed in legislative language.

The projected addition of $1.5 trillion to the deficit is no big, because Republicans truly believe in the Magic of Tax Cuts, which will create all the economic growth needed to offset the revenue lost by transferring even more wealth to the richest people in the country and to corporations. Please ignore all the economics experts who say that’s bullshit, because they are unbelievers who do not have faith in tax cuts, and what have those economists ever done to make campaign contributions to Republicans, huh? The only reason tax cuts have never paid for themselves is obviously that they weren’t deep enough, or weren’t accompanied by radically scaling back government spending, which is always wasteful except when it’s directed to military hardware.

Now hold this magic feather and you can fly by flapping your ears. Should come in handy when you’re thrown off the cliff.

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  • ManchuCandidate

    So much for Profiles in Courage.

    • Oblios_Cap

      That’s more like a pamphlet.

      • Historicat

        Hasn’t needed updating in decades.

  • notanncoulter

    “Deficits don’t matter”
    — The Devil

  • beingreleased
    • Oblios_Cap

      That’ll really help the middle class!

    • Vincent Ricola

      Well this is a pile of suck. Fuck them with votes the size of a postcard.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      At that rate, if you invest wisely, you can retire in 250 years.

    • TJ Barke

      They want to make us all into serfs.

      • beingreleased

        We should cut Social Security to make people responsible for their own future well being. Also, we should tax them for trying to be responsible for their future well being.

  • So even with cutting $1.5T to medicare and medicaid they still end up with a $1.5T deficit which means a net loss of $3T. And here I thought revenue neutral was a thing the GOP liked to fondle.

    • SeeTrain65

      They like fondling other things more.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Only when there’s a Democrat in the WH.

    • dslindc

      IOKIYAR

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Does this mean when the cameras aren’t on John McCain is just another Republican fuckstick who is perfectly okay with engaging in budgetary fuckery outside the regular order? I don’t believe it.

    • notanncoulter

      yes.
      yes he is.

    • SeeTrain65

      Shocking, ain’t it? And here he was being all mavericky and everything.

      • Bobathonic

        He’s not a maverick, he only plays one on TV.

        Yeah yeah, James Garner libelz.

        • SeeTrain65

          And Jack Kelly libelz.
          And Roger Moore libelz.
          And Robert Colbert libelz. ; )

  • Oblios_Cap

    The only reason tax cuts have never paid for themselves is obviously that they weren’t deep enough, or weren’t accompanied by radically scaling back government spending, which is always wasteful except when it’s directed to military hardware.

    Pretty much nailed the GOP economics manual there, Dok. You forgot to mention how austerity is the only way to fight the inevitable recession that Democrats will have to contend with when the GOP president leaves office. Because cutting government spending when consumer spending and investments are both down magically raises GDP.

    • Covfefe

      GOP political manual: We lost because we weren’t conservative enough.

  • memzilla Ω

    A proposal is on the floor here for (at least) 51 exceptions to Commenting Rules for Radicals.

  • maman

    That sucks now that I am old.

  • Beanz&Berryz

    Maybe on the bright side.. Once the GOP destroys this place, there will be … I don’t even have it in me… Sheesh…

  • Michael Smith

    This is what the GOP elites really want. They like Trump cuz he motivated people to vote Republican and he keeps them frothing at the mouth over hot button issues so that the party can do its work in the background for the people it actually serves.

  • stankbait

    And they call themselves “right to life” people.
    More like “right to just go away and fucking die” people!

  • GunToting[Redacted]

    WE NEED TO RUN THE COUNTRY LIKE A HOUSEHOLD BUDGET!!!

    Because I know at some point I’m going to have to go to war with the Jones family up the street.

    • TJ Barke

      You will now…

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        Imma start digging a moat and erecting spikes

    • WotsAllThisThen

      The HOA didn’t appreciate my “fire and fury” speech at our last meeting.

      • GunToting[Redacted]

        My “Blood and soil” comments about landscaping our common area has resulted in my disinvitation to future HOA gatherings.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Because most households I know of are carrying a staggering amount of debt, what with mortgages, credit cards, car payments, etc.

    • Vincent Ricola

      With it’s debt to income ratio, I’ll say that it’s unfortunately close to running like my household budget. :(

      • Oblios_Cap

        And I didn’t even add student loans on my list…

    • jesterpunk

      So every time you need more money you go to your boss and demand he cuts your pay?

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      And when I get in trouble I can just print my own money!

      • Oblios_Cap

        $100 bills only cost 12.5 cents each to make. Profit!

    • davej1s

      Hey…you don’t live down the street from me do you?

      • Oblios_Cap

        Hiya Jonesy!

        • davej1s

          Oh crap…now I have to lock the doors tonight and post a sentry…

    • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

      Yes because the first thing you want to do with a household budget is to restrict all occupants to minimum wage jobs and then give 50% of those wages to one really wealthy neighbor, who might hire the kid to cut the lawn for exposure.

      • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

        People die of exposure.

  • Vincent Ricola

    Tax brakes for rich people disguised as a fucked budget and sneaky passed in the middle of the night with 51-49 numbers seems fine. This is all fine. Nothing to see here. Fine.

  • dslindc

    I read on the Internet that tax cuts cure cancer, so it must be true!

    • Oblios_Cap

      I thought it was ED that it cured.

      • dslindc

        That too! Tax cuts are magic cures for everything! Yessireee!

  • jesterpunk

    It failed badly enough in Kansas that even Republicans there realized it was a fucking stupid idea and got rid of the tax cuts for the rich.

  • Scooby

    Tax cuts cure baldness!

  • Anna Rompage

    If trickle down economics works, then how come wages have been mostly stagnate for the bottom 80% for the last 4 decades, and why the fuck do the top 10 % of this country, own over 85% of the wealth?

  • mancityRed6

    “we promise, tax cuts _really_ will spur growth this time.”

    • So when this current bubble pops and we’ve lowered taxes, what are we going to do when the depression comes?

      • WotsAllThisThen

        It’s up to each of us, individually, to take responsibility and make sure our escape yachts are in good working order.

      • jesterpunk

        Run away and leave Democrats to clean up the mess and complain they are raising taxes and how the deficit is huge?

        • WotsAllThisThen

          And immediately complain that the economy sucks now that Democrats are in charge, yes.

      • mancityRed6

        don’t worry, churches and charities will pick up the slack

        • Oblios_Cap

          The debtors prisons and workhouses will be up and running by then.

          • mancityRed6

            I said charities

  • Proud Liberal

    Republicans are enemies of the state.

    • Ricky Gay

      They are all horrible, human-shaped garbage and deserve every karmic suffering that is theirs to endure.

  • dslindc

    Does this budget include bootstraps for the poor?

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    Amazing how all these Republicans admit that they’re not actually invested in this crap. They only do it to thwart the actual process of legislating. And they get cheered for their shitting on the Constitution.

  • TJ Barke

    Fuck republicans. We need to pull out every single thing they do root and branch. Scorch their policies and salt the ashes.

    • BearGHAZI

      FIRE AND BLOOD

      (with votes)

  • therblig
  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Then again, maybe now that they’ve got this, they’ll finally send Drumpf on his way. Once they have their tax cuts, they won’t need him anymore.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Not a chance. Once they get their tax cuts, it’s on to gutting what’s left of welfare, killing the EPA, eliminating the Dept. of Ed., clubbing MSHA and OSHA to death, making unionizing impossible . . .

      • Covfefe

        There’s a whole New Deal out there to repeal and replace.

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          Also, too, that pesky Constitution.

          • Covfefe

            One more GOP Justice on the US Supreme Court, The Constitution won’t be a problem.

          • Historicat

            I upvoted your comment for truth but it was painful to do so.

    • Aggle Wok

      My first thought also too

  • Cogswell – In a Mirror, Darkly

    And once again the repukes will destroy the economy leaving the Democrats to pick up the pieces and fix it.

    Who could have predicted that?

    • TJ Barke

      Aot,k.

  • mancityRed6

    OT: me just now. chores are done but it’s still to early to leave.
    https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlBO7eyXzSZkJri/giphy.gif

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      Haha– that’s what Wonkette is for!

    • Vincent Ricola

      Me too. It’s happy hour Friday and I think I’m going to click on one of these ads (no malware *fingers crossed*) and spend the next 2 hours reading scary ghost stories that I will not believe.

  • dslindc

    Is Paul Ryan already pre-ordering the cake with Ayn Rand on it to celebrate?

    • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

      Those cakes they like.

  • Anna Rompage

    I suppose this is the moment where we should all hope for a quick and painless death once our time comes…

  • BMW
    • Covfefe

      Reposting because of relevance. Another curve ball.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Obligatory…

      *edit*
      BAH! Fuck it. Link won’t act right!

      Something something something, Supply Side Jesus.

  • davej1s

    Dear Donnie and his republican congress,
    Show us a balanced budget and maybe then we can talk. Until then go fuck yourselves…better yet fuck Jeff Sessions, he looks like he could use it.
    vty,
    dj

  • jesterpunk
  • Asterix

    I love how they did this late at night. Assholes.

    • Proud Liberal

      That’s what they did with the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act to replace Glass-Steagall. That’s how they roll.

  • beingreleased

    “Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who believes the budget ought to reduce the deficit, was the only Republican to vote against it.”

    Rand is so cute. He actually thinks Republicans believe all that nonsense they’ve been spouting.

  • MynameisBlarney

    So, three “nice young boys” got arrested for attempted murder at the Gainesville protests.

    The looks on their faces in their mugshots are priceless.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/3-men-arrested-for-attempted-homicide-after-richard-spencers-speech-gave-nazi-salute-before-shooting-at-protestors/?comments=disqus

  • TJ Barke
    • Hardly Ideal

      The way I’ve heard Trickle Down described is that the rich are eating at the table and the rest of us eat any crumbs they happen to drop, so the way to prosperity lies in giving the rich bigger meals.

      I guess it’s a more polite way to put it than the usual golden shower jokes.

      • Three Finger Salute

        To paraphrase Supreme Court Justice in waiting, Judith Sheindlin:

        Don’t trickle down on my economy and tell me it’s raining pennies from heaven.

      • TJ Barke

        There’s also the sparrow version, where the rich are a horse, so you wanna feed it more oats that come through in the shit, that we, the sparrows, get to eat.

  • SayItWithWookies

    This is a great plan – Louis XIV himself said that the more money you give to the rich, the better off everyone is. Lawn tennis and minuets for everyone!

    • laughingnome

      I read minuets as midgets.

  • BreakingDeadMen

    Hell, if you had told the Founders that the Republic would last 240 years, they probably would have been surprised. Though they probably thought what succeeded it would be better.

    • Proud Liberal

      We can’t have anything nice in a country filled with Republicans.

      • BreakingDeadMen

        Seriously. In their view, the Constitution boils down to “We can’t have nice things.”

        • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

          “And guns.”

        • Covfefe

          Don’t go dragging the doers into your thing. All the Constitution says is YOU can’t have nice things.

          • BreakingDeadMen

            That is the key distinction

    • Three Finger Salute

      There’s a quote that may be misattributed to the Marquis de Lafayette, but is associated with him: He supposedly said that democracies only last for 250 years. If he really said that, he was only off by a decade.

  • Persistent Demme

    I guess that “Mavericky” thing only lasts so long, right Walnuts?

  • One of these days they’ll be honest and just let us know that our retirement options will be to win the lottery, be born rich, or end up as fuel for a power plant that makes iPhone screens.

    • AJ Milne

      Now now, let’s not get crazy…

      I mean, like they’re gonna make the screens anywhere near where it would be economical to ship your remains.

    • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

      Well, personal retirement funds are the next big thing for the banks to begin grabbing.

    • Daniel

      But think of the money they’ll make selling your carcass to that Chinese factory that makes those screens! How resentful are you that you’d deny them that?

    • Three Finger Salute

      Soylent Green is a 4K Retina?

  • gene108

    I have a tax proposal:

    All individual wealth above $1 billion in net assets gets handed over to the government.

    If you bitch and complain about not being happy with $1 billion in net assets, you will be deemed mentally unfit, because $1 billion dollars is still a fucking lot of money. The remaining $1 billion gets handed over to the government.

    You then will be held for psychiatric evaluation, and upon release you will receive SSI benefits, a Section 8 housing voucher, and a pat on the back with thoughts and prayers and best wishes to you.

    • Tishalicious

      And SNAP, naturally…and then won’t they be delighted– living the takers’ life of “ease and luxury” ?

  • Crystalclear12

    Didn’t Kansas already do this homework?

    • gene108

      George W. Bush did it twice and it didn’t work, but that soooo long ago. Who can remember that far back?

      • Anna Rompage

        Not to mention Reagan, who implemented the largest tax cuts in history, then had to fix the mess by implementing the largest tax increases in history…

        • therblig

          just like the bible, except with the new testament first.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Well, he had to do that in order to save Real America from soshulizms and that satanic Christian peanut farmer. Glad we dodged that bullet — we almost turned into Canada for a minute there!

        • mailman27

          Yes, kidz, before Raygun you could deduct interest paid on car payments, credit cards, consumer loans. Your Social Security checks weren’t taxed. He was a real man of the people.

      • jesterpunk

        Even Ronny Raygun had to raise taxes because it doesnt work.

      • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

        Taxes go out, taxes came in. You can’t explain it.

        • Rocket Pony Ron

          Taxes go out, taxes came in.
          There, that ought fix everything!

      • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

        And remember when that colored fella raised taxes a billion times and the economy crashed? You don’t remember that. I guess it only happened on Fox “News”.

      • Red Bird

        There is a whole generation of Americans who don’t remember that because they were children when he was president. Just like the Reagan babies became Bush voters when they grew up, the Bush babies became MAGA.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Plus, he’s a good guy now, because he said A Thing about Trump!

    • mancityRed6

      yes, they did. and raised taxes in September by 1% postdated to the beginning of the year. I’m gonna owe next year.

      • Crystalclear12

        Sorry, you ended up owing.

        • mancityRed6

          I think the refund I got last year was $14, so it’s not a big deal.
          now if they can only work out the school funding debacle.

          • Crystalclear12

            At least your courts called them on it.

        • mancityRed6

          I’m saving my money for next April. that’s when it will be.

    • Oblios_Cap

      But not all of the other states did with them. That’s why it didn’t work, silly.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    Would it be UnConstitutional to support an amendment that all branches of government are required to base policy on demonstrable evidence and/or a consensus of expert opinion?

    That would be a kind of “objectivism” I could really get behind.

    • jesterpunk

      Experts? What are you some kind of communist? You need to get someone with no experience but they feel it will work.

      • Covfefe

        Imma explain this to you one last time. You don’t need to be an evolutionist or a “scientist” to run the Gubmint. All you need is your Bible!!!!!1q!!!1!!!!

        • jesterpunk

          Not the whole bible either, take out all those parts about helping the less fortunate and just keep the parts about hating people because they are different.

          • Covfefe

            I don’t know where you got your whole Bible but my whole Bible is a CHRISTIAN BIBLE!!!!1!111!!!!!!

    • But knowing the GOP, they’d wind up “expert opinions” that supported whatever crackpot idea they were pushing.

      • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

        Like they do now?

      • Lance Thrustwell

        You and Skwerl raise a good point about the spectre of bogus ‘experts.’ Fair enough. And even evidence has to be compiled by ‘experts’ of a sort. But it might expose their machinations a little more clearly when you have MIT professors, Nobel Laureates, etc., pointing out that they weren’t consulted!

        • Three Finger Salute

          Pfft. Those guys are nerds anyway. Beta cucks who do Good Will Hunting math shit and probably voted illegally in California for Trudeau.

        • Covfefe

          Aw shucks. All those MIT perfessers and Nobel Lariats and tree huggers hurt us with their myth of global warming?

        • Rocket Pony Ron

          This is already happening. Hasn’t changed shit.

    • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

      Like the “experts” we have now on baby parts sales and global warming cramology?

    • canes_pugnaces

      That would require someone to enforce the constitution, we are beyond that.

      • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

        What is that word, the eight one from the left you used? Does it mean buy moar gunz?

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Hell, even the CBO, which is sorta designed to do something like that, has become a mere speedbump to these hamburglars.

  • canes_pugnaces

    Now is decent time to remind all the morally superior folks who couldn’t be bothered to vote for Hillary because she may have killed Vince Foster, murdered babies, and was born a woman, that there are consequences. I hope they feel better. Or superior. Or both.

  • PubOption
    • Creepoman

      Alright, heads then.

  • Scooby

    They forget the massive profits we will make going to war with Iran and China.

  • Proud Liberal

    They do this every God damned time they are in charge. Break the country and expect Democrats to clean up the fucking mess. When are people going to ever learn?

    • Asterix

      Going by history… never.

    • Maybe the Dems, when we get back in power, should leave it broken.

      • jesterpunk

        We cant though, when its broken it hurts everyone and we want to try and help even the red states that hate us.

        • Asterix

          It sucks having a conscience.

          And being human.

          • Rocket Pony Ron

            We wouldn’t know.
            – Republicans

    • Covfefe

      No, they don’t expect Democrats to clean up the fucking mess. Did Republicans in Congress vote to spend the money Obama needed to clean up W’s mess? Republicans never run out of fucks to give the moochers and takers.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    the middle class and working/retired/sick poor are the prime movers of this country and the rich benefit.

    I swear, on some days I consider emigrating out of here.

    • therblig

      some days I contemplate my 2nd amendment rights.

      and an insanity defense.

      • Three Finger Salute

        I’m more of an internalizer. I’d combine both: a Smith & Wesson self-lobotomy.

        • Historicat

          OK, this is the other reason I don’t own a gun.

      • Historicat

        This is why I don’t own a gun.

    • Courser_Resistance

      I would, in a heartbeat, but where am I gonna go?

      I mean, for realz. No one takes Americans without $$$ and I ain’t got any.

      Actually, I do have the outline of an idea. I want to go die of hypothermia on the Canadian border with a nice, long suicide note about how American policies are killing us.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Hate to break it to you but

      Canada is basically getting a progressive corporate tax

      Stop rubbing it in, Canucks, we know you can’t stop winning.

      • Covfefe

        It’s a breach of good faith. We thought moving your corporate headquarters to Toronto would get you a tax break.

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        We owe it all to you guys. Seriously. We just look at what the US does and we do the opposite. Seems to be working.

  • susan_g

    “If God didn’t want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep.”

  • MrTusks

    “So how many more years to we have of a reliable Olds vote?
    “Eh. Five to ten.”
    “Shit. Okay, then we start Daddy Mercer’s plan.”
    “But won’t that alienate our most reliable voting bloc?”
    “They’ll be dead soon anyway. Time to grift until they don’t let us grift no more.”

    • Covfefe

      There’s a lot of 1980’s Olds on the road today that are still reliable.

      • theblackdog

        It’s been a few years since I saw one. We had one but it threw a piston rod in 96

  • canes_pugnaces

    i think the idea is that Trump will finally be able to say ‘truthfully’ that he is a billionaire.

    • Covfefe

      This is what Donald and I have in common. With all this tax cutting and deregulation and stuff, by the time we get to be billionaires it’ll be like being a millionaire today. Can’t Donald and I ever get a leg up?

  • BigCSouthside

    Why do people keep electing republicans based on this fiscal conservatism shit. They have never had an economy that works.

    • canes_pugnaces

      Never’s not accurate. But seldom sure is.

    • Red Bird

      Because Republicans have convinced them the first is about maintaining white supremacy first and foremost.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Because they’re happy to die as martyrs for the cause of righteous Christian patriotism, as long as it means sluts, queers, illegals and of course “Nigerians” get punished and go to hell for making “government” their “God.”

      It’s the warped, racist, misogynistic and homophobic GOP version of a “Christian vow of poverty.”

      • SDGeoff3

        They’ll have others die for them.

        • Rocket Pony Ron

          It’s not like they have trouble finding people dumb enough to.

          • SDGeoff3

            Isn’t that the truth?

  • TJ Barke

    Can we start setting things on fire yet? I feel like Europeans would be setting things on fire by now.

    • Vincent Ricola

      We can, but the fire department might not come to put it out if there is any confusion about the current tax obligation of the item burning.

    • Creepoman

      4:20 is still a few hours away.

      • SDGeoff3

        Not if you wake and bake.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Canada is not “blazing up” the White House this time.

        • Rocket Pony Ron

          Of course not. Hockey season’s started. Can you wait till June?

      • TJ Barke

        Luckily, I don’t have to wait that long…

    • Red Richmond
  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    The senate can pass this fucking abomination with no support from the left, but gun control, which enjoys bipartisan support, can’t even get a vote? Republican’ts just revealed all we need to know about them.

    • gallbladder

      They’ve been doing that for decades.

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        They’re shouting it out now because they discovered that they don’t have to pretend any more.

    • Courser_Resistance

      Republicunts. There, I said it.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    OT: Dammit, we really are going to run out of cute animal pics:

    Georgia Republican state Representative Betty Price — wife of disgraced former Health and Human Services Sec. Tom Price — has called for HIV-positive people to be quarantined and for their sexual partners to be logged and tracked by the government, according to David Badash at The New Civil Rights Movement.

    Price — a physician — made the comments at a Georgia House commission meeting about improving state residents’ access to healthcare. She directed her question to Dr. Pascale Wortley, the director of the HIV Epidemiology Section for Georgia Department of Health.

    • gallbladder

      Has she been consulting with Mengele’s ghost?

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        It’s a RawStory post, and they’re shaky sometimes, it wasn’t that blunt, but I don’t know that she’s still not awful:

        “(B)efore you proceed if you wouldn’t mind commenting on the surveillance of partners, tracking of contacts, that sort of thing. What are we legally able to do?” asked Price.

        “And I don’t want to say the quarantine word,” she went on, “but I guess I just said it. Is there an ability, since I would guess that public dollars are expended heavily in prophylaxis and treatment of this condition, so we have a public interest in curtailing the spread. What would you advise or are there any methods legally that we could do that would curtail the spread?”

        “It seems to me it’s almost frightening the number of people who are living that are potentially carriers, well not carriers, with the potential to spread, whereas in the past they died more readily and at that point they are not posing a risk. So we’ve got a huge population posing a risk if they are not in treatment,” Price said.

        • gallbladder

          The very fact that she takes a notion to such measures in so public a forum raises my eyebrow. Seems that her life was easier when people were dying, “…more readily…”

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            that’s how I read it too.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Unsaid (sotto voce)”So, how do we return to that condition?”

        • Three Finger Salute

          I don’t doubt it, this is SOP for the GOP. Chris Crispy said that immigrants should be tracked with barcodes like UPS packages. What do UPS and GOP have in common? Brown shirts…

        • ShriekinViolet

          As a former HIV nurse in a public health department and a former field epidemiologist after that, I would just like to say, formally:

          “[Redact] you with a [redacted] [redactor] and [redact] yourself to the nearest [redacted] to be [redacted] with extreme prejudice. With all due respect.”

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Ramen, I’m a former health care person (surgical assistant) as well. Where the fuck is their compassion? She must be one of those misguided Reagan fans.

        • marxalot

          Literally anyone could have the potential to spread HIV, you purse mouthed frogbreath, it’s remarkably protein-agnostic when it comes to infection. Fuck you for even implying that past conditions in which “carriers” “died more readily” was preferably to current conditions. What’s your next line, ‘they walk among us?'”

    • Daniel

      Does anyone else remember how this sort of thing was supposed to have been done to Christians by Obama?

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        Eyup. I suppose he was just too occupied with taking people’s guns away to get around to it.

    • Covfefe

      Great idea. Running out of Messicans? Just make them quarantined HIVers work off the costs of their care.

    • Covfefe

      Relax. HIVers will still have the right to buy bump stocks.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Here’s your new Red Badge of Courage to be sewn onto your overcoat — and eventually your prison uniform.

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/World_Aids_Day_Ribbon.png

      Comes with a bonus pink triangle for good measure.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Has she heard about the effectiveness of Truvada/PrEP? Her ideas sound like they’re straight out of the late ’80s!

      • Three Finger Salute

        Yeah, but to her that’s still wrong, because it means they’re not dying and therefore not being punished for sin. Republicans hate science because they believe science gets in the way of God’s will. (Which, if this “God” was so all-powerful, you think he’d make the drugs ineffective, or strike down the scientists with a lightning bolt or something — never mind, that’s logic, and Republicans have an immunity to that since they were tiny Christian fetuses conveniently devoid of souls.)

        • Bemused

          My response to the science going against God thing is always: Who exactly do you think created biology/chemistry/physics? Scientists are simply studying God’s Word manifest in the world, the same way you study it in the Bible.

          Mostly they say “but it’s different because (random nonsensical reason why usually involving the devil)” but sometimes it shuts that particular argument down.

    • HazooToo

      “It’s almost frightening the number of people who are living that are
      carriers with the potential to spread,” Price said during the hearing.
      “Whereas in the past, they died more readily, and at that point, they’re
      not posing a risk. So we’ve got a huge population posing a risk if
      they’re not in treatment.”

      She literally just said it was better when people were DYING.

      https://www.statnews.com/2017/10/20/georgia-lawmaker-hiv-quarantine/

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Holy shit. Holy. Fucking. SHIT.

        • HazooToo

          I can’t even comment any further on this. “With votes” isn’t cutting it anymore.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        Fuck this bitch with a massive number of votes, against her.

    • Shibusa

      Maybe Uncle Sam should log and track every hick in a MAGA hat who goes to the ER with an STD.

    • Rocket Pony Ron

      I’m a little surprised she didn’t suggest just sending them to ‘camps’ where they could be amongst their own kind. She could have even made a joke about the slippery soap in the ‘showers.’

      This woman needs to be voted into the Sun.

    • theblackdog

      Today is so fucking fired, and she needs to be hit with a clue by four of votes in the next election.

    • marxalot

      It’s 1982 again, kiddies.
      Fuck them. Fuck alla them. The queers did this once, with no fucking money and shedding friends faster than anyone could tabulate them. We’re not going back.
      https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0d/4d/20/0d4d20c6486a55538710d80cb73c3c76.jpg

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    In order to pay for the massive military build up, plus The Wall™ and the tax cuts for trillionaires, Liddle’ Baby Donnie may have to stop going to Mar-a-Lago every weekend.

    BWAHAHAHAHA! We’re going broke.

    • Rocket Pony Ron

      He’ll be so exhausted from all this winning and killing thaqt he’ll have to start going there on Wednesdays and coming back on Tuesdays.
      Hmm, do any of these courses have bunkers? I mean, apart from the ones on the 15th fairway.

  • TJ Barke

    Biggest heist ever.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Say, you know what else was a sham and a hoax?

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      Rick and Morty schezuan sauce?

      • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

        But it was the Rickest promotion ev’ah.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          i only know about it from the meme. But ya gotta think it was Dan Harmon’s idea of a prank.

          • theblackdog

            One wonders, considering McDonalds mailed him a gallon of the stuff. I strongly suspect he was in on McDonalds bringing it to their stores.

          • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

            Or he was saying, “This guy is disrupting a family, a world, and a multiverse for one reason: to get his hands on a stupid trivial promotional item from a fast food chain. His priorities are totally screwed up!” and he didn’t realize how many people would completely miss the point.

    • Vincent Ricola

      The 2016 presidential election?

      • Proud Liberal

        Winner!

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          Harrumph.
          (crosses arms)

          ; p

          • Vincent Ricola

            I loved yours though. Mine was the obvious, yours was the nuanced.

          • Proud Liberal

            Agree.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            : D

            You guys are such enablers.

            ; p

      • Creepoman

        Also 2000.

      • Maybe

        Well, there was also the 2000 election when 5 Repub Supreme Court Justices picked our President for us.

    • President in Exile Firefly

      Apollo 11?

    • SDGeoff3

      Garlic-themed restaurants?

    • mancityRed6

      The art of the deal?

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      The New England Patriots?

    • chicken thief

      Trickle down economics?

      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        But Donald loves the trickle that tickles.

    • President in Exile Firefly

      Barnum’s “This Way To the Egress” sign?

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        No, that was 100% true!

    • gallbladder

      Fat-free sour cream?

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        <finishes the last of his home-made chip dip>
        NOW you tell me!

    • Raan

      Pizzagate?

    • MynameisBlarney

      OxyClean?

      • Raan

        BILLY MAYS HERE

      • Proud Liberal

        That shit works.

      • randoracer

        No shit? Hmm. I always thought the spray worked OK on spots. Maybe I’ve just been snookered? Damn. I’m so disillusioned.

    • Three Finger Salute

      The idea that the Internet would bring us together and usher in a Star Trek utopia?

    • Shibusa

      Trump University?

    • JustDon’tSayConfabulation

      Milli Vanilli?

    • Fartknocker

      Sham Wow?

    • Opiwan

      Pants

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Any product with the name “Trump” plastered on it.

    • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

      “They just want a reaction. Ignore them and they’ll go away.”
      “They’re just jealous.”
      “Sticks and stones…”

  • President in Exile Firefly

    Yay! All our taxes will go down!

    • gallbladder

      That’s not all…

  • Maybe

    So why aren’t the Dems messaging that this Repub budget cuts Medicare by $1 trillion and Medicaid by $500 billion?

    And that the money will be used for tax cuts for the rich.

    The Dems don’t need to explain or give details or in any other way complicate the message so that short-attention-span voters stop listening. The Repubs have learned to keep their message simple–pretty much caveman level. The Dems need to do the same.

    And the Dems have the advantage that their message is true.

    • Three Finger Salute

      But the Democrats have the disadvantage of being Democrats. (D) and (R) are the only letters of the alphabet that the moran voters know. Once they see someone with a (D) after their name, they’re going to realize that it stands for (D)emoncrat — and switch the channel back to Fox Tittytainment. Rash and Fuckabee will reassure them that this is just the Sinister Party using (D)evil trickery to get you to give up your guns and betray Jesus by converting to Islam…

      • Maybe

        Sadly there is much truth in what you say.

        But one thing that tends to get through to just about any human being is the threat of losing something that they have and value. We saw a lot of that when Medicaid was threatened during the ACA repeal efforts.

        The Dems should actually simplify even more than I suggested above. Perhaps “Repubs want to cut $1 trillion from Medicare–give $2 trillion in tax cuts to the rich.” They could even graph it and put it on a hat.

  • Dinah Sykes, a Republican member of the Kansas State Senate would like to weigh in:

    “In 2012, Republicans in Kansas enacted a “revolutionary” tax overhaul promised to be a “shot of adrenaline to the heart of the Kansas economy.” With the benefit of hindsight, we can say with certainty this promise was unfulfilled. In the following five years, Kansas experienced nine rounds of budget cuts, stress on state agencies and the inability to effectively provide the core functions of government for our citizens.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-message-to-congress-dont-make-the-same-mistake-we-did-in-kansas/2017/10/19/fb6058a2-a9de-11e7-92d1-58c702d2d975_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-f%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.dc7b827c3bf9

    Sadly, the Republicans seem to think that what the emperor wants to do constitutes “emperical data”.

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      I don’t want anything shot into my heart. Just saying.

      • Charon_69

        …they’re to blame
        they give love a bad name

    • Three Finger Salute

      Fake news. According to Republicans, government has no core functions except bombing brown people for resource-extraction and filling the feeding trough of corporate welfare. Education? That’s sinful.

    • gallbladder

      More like a shot of potassium chloride.

    • canes_pugnaces

      If people can’t pay for there kid’s education at Trump Elementary School and DeVoss High, they should make iPhones in China.

  • canes_pugnaces
  • Ellie

    And then they held hands and did a dance, singing, “We’re going to kill the poor people, and throw Grandma off the cliff. Hoorah!”

  • Rocket Pony Ron

    I have US$11 in my wallet from my last trip across the border. I’d better use it soon before it becomes worthless.

    • An Outhouse for the résistance

      It may become valuable as a collector’s item.

  • Paperless Tiger

    This is why we can’t have nice economies.

  • bubbuhh
    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      A reminder for every election between now and forever.

      FIFY

  • ken_kukec

    Yeah, Rand Paul — the dick is .5% full.

  • Panika MCD

    I’ve seen people vote for budgets they consider shit sandwiches. I’ve seen Republicans snipe at each other for it. but I have not seen the sniping within the same party in the same chamber before. THANKS GUYS! new life experience.

  • angryspittle

    And the maverick voted for it as did Corker who said it was horrible but voted in favor anyway? Have the fucking Republicans no shame? At long last, have they no shame?

    • Impatient

      Guess those nice moderate high-minded Republican womenz must have voted for it too. Soooooo … don’t lose sight of the point. They’re Rs, and they’ll do what Rs do. Don’t turn your back on them, cause they won’t slow down to use lube!

  • Marla

    It won’t last and the Republicans know it won’t last. This will destroy the country as well as the Republican party.

  • Bitter Scribe

    Isn’t it amazing how deficits are the most awful, terrible things in the world whenever Democrats want to help anyone, but when the rich want tax cuts, suddenly they don’t matter?

  • chicken thief

    Now the GOP Senate is all sad faced and shit because The Donald didn’t have them over to the WH for a celebratory party like he did the House when they passed their shit show ACA repeal.

    No Budweisers on the lawn?! Wahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

  • whitroth

    It’s only a “roadmap. On the other hand, they’re going to try to pass it using around-the-rules (don’t you just *despise* line-jumpers (that’s queue-jumpers to our UK friends)?) to pass it.

    Of course, there’s some non-insane Republicans who know damn well that when we take back the Senate *and* the House next year, we can undo all of it, and raise taxes on the wealthy to, say, 70%….

    • Zyxomma

      We’re not likely to take the House (gerrymandering, voter ID, voter suppression, poor turnout for midterms), and we’d need a veto-proof majority to pass tax increases.

    • 90. If we get the house and the senate, I want us to start banking against future fuckery.

  • Gorillionaire

    Well there you have it, conservatards – you got the House, you got the Senate, you got the SCOTUS, and you got the White House, and all of those dicks couldn’t get their shit together to do one goddamn thing except……give their richest buds a big ol’ taxcut.

  • Opiwan

    Someone needs to make a one-page handout, and yes there will be a butt-ton of assumptions built in, but let the wonks argue about it. We’re trying to say something simple to simple people.

    Current government revenue from income/corporate taxes: x
    Income base necessary to get $x in taxes at current rate: y
    Expected revenue after tax cut: z
    Amount of growth necessary to make up shortfall: (x-z)/y = a
    Largest amount of single-year income base growth in known history: b
    Largest amount of ten-year income base growth in known history: c
    IF(b>a), AND (c>a): THE REPUBLICAN PLAN WILL NOT WORK SHORT TERM OR LONG TERM

    I leave it to the marketing experts to figure out how to make the fonts and colors work so people pay attention…

    • tehbaddr

      Them thar aint numbers, just a bunch of silly letters them edumicated people always be usin’!

      • Opiwan

        oy, vey

    • mysonsam

      That’s the thing too…in order for the monetary voodoo to work, the rate of money changing hands (whether in taxes or spending) must increase exponentially…

      Short of war, that really doesn’t happen.

      • The thing Republicans love is war. So there is that.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Waaaay too much math. These are the sort of dumbfucks who voted because HER EMAILS.
      They need to be told “you’re getting fucked” by somebody they believe. Good luck with that.

  • tehbaddr

    Bunch of Rat Fucking Bungle Cunts!

  • azeyote

    and nobody remembers Dubya and what Obama had to clean up –

    • Zyxomma

      Yes, we do. The three million more of us who voted for HRC certainly do.

  • CATMAN

    For all you old people who voted for Trump–how the fuck did did you rationalize your vote when the stated goal of the Republicans was to “reform” entitlements and while you thought they intended to fuck poor people as well, the main target was cutting Social Security and Medicare. Oh, by the way, the ACA you hated so much, phased out the “Donut Hole” in Medicare prescription drug coverage that raised costs for people with expensive prescriptions

  • puredog

    “. . .the .5 percent of the time when he’s not being a complete dick. ”
    So you’re saying, like half the time? MATH IS HARD.

    • Lefty Wright

      Once in 200 tries. Much worse than a broken clock.

  • The budget outline includes $1 trillion in cuts to Medicare over 10 years, and $500 billion in cuts to Medicaid
    Say. Base of Republicans? Remember that thing Trump would promise he would never cut?
    You have been had. You dumbshits.

  • Jay Silversmith

    Let’s all make voodoo dolls in the form of the gop congresscritters and fill em full of pins to kill their dragging out voodoo economics for the umpteenth time.

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