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In August, Lane Maurice Davis pleaded “not guilty” to first degree murder. He’s accused of having stabbed his father to death following a fight with his parents during which he accused them of being “leftists” and “pedophiles.” Davis admitted he stabbed his father, but entered a “not guilty” plea because he insists it wasn’t premeditated.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Davis was recently outed as “Seattle4Truth” — a prolific internet hatemonger who not only posted obsessively on the The_Donald subreddit, but also wrote for the Gamergate hate site The Ralph Retort. You may recall its proprietor Ethan Ralph, from the time he stalked and harassed games developer Brianna Wu, the time Ralph was arrested for assaulting an officer, or at least from the “Law And Order: SVU” episode based on his stalking habits.

Davis’ alter-ego was exposed earlier this week by Ian Miles Cheong (who… let’s not even get into that one), and later confirmed by The Ralph Retort and several other sources familiar with Seattle4Truth’s online activities.

Via The Ralph Retort:

News has reached me that Lane Maurice Davis (aka Seattle4Truth) has murdered his own father in cold blood. It’s no secret that Lane has contributed to The Ralph Retort for a number of years but those days are over. In fact, after today, I’m erasing all of his articles.

Lane Davis was a 33-year-old unemployed loser who lived with his parents and had no income to speak of. The man he murdered is the sole reason he was able to subsist at all. He had some volatile anger issues which are evident in the many YouTube streams he’s been present on. He’s also made threats and wild unfounded accusations against a lot of people over the past few years. I thought it was all in jest, but hindsight is always 20-20. Anybody who even slightly disagreed with Lane became the brunt of his verbal attacks and he would often label his detractors as “leftist pedos.” Lane used this same term against his own parents. When his father asked him to leave, Lane snapped. Lane Davis stabbed his father several times in the back and chest and by the time police arrived, he was dead.

The recording of the 911 call the night of the murder has also been released. You can skip it if you want.

His postings on Reddit suggest conflicted feelings about murder and violence in general:

His YouTube videos included “raps” about how great Donald Trump is…

Not to mention myriad videos about leftists who LOVE pedophilia, Gamergate, vaccines causing autism, Seth Rich, the Rothschilds, feminists being ugly — along with various “accounts” of “leftist violence” against Trump supporters. Which is to say, his online output is no different at all from pretty much any other alt-right internet troll.

I want to go back now to something from that Ralph Retort response. The “I thought it was all in jest” part.

One of the big defenses that many of the alt-right spokespeople like to give for why so, so many of their comrades are spouting all this Captain Insane-o-pants bullshit and the like is that they are just fun, rebellious lads taking the piss out of everyone by saying things verboten by political correctness. And you know what? I believe that a few of them, at least at first, really do believe that.

But a whole lot of them sincerely believe the same things Lane Davis believed. For instance, Mike Cernovich has been on about pedophile rings constantly as of late.

Now they’re deciding that not only do they disagree with the Left, politically, but that we all molest children, which is pretty much the worst thing anyone can do. It’s horrific, but it’s not at all surprising that Davis did what he’s accused of doing if he sincerely believed this.

The Right is desperately clinging to conspiracy theories these days, because they honestly don’t have a better way of “attacking” us. They have to make shit up. It can’t be that we just think poor people should have health care, or that the police shouldn’t brutalize unarmed black people — it has to be something more. Because, frankly, those are incredibly unconvincing reasons to be filled with such vitriol. It’s hard to feel “righteous” when you are fighting for the right to screw the poor and hurt vulnerable people. Plus, if they were to complain about things the Left was actually doing, rather than things they made up, they would be very, very boring. So it has to be pedophile rings, it has to be “cultural Marxism,” it has to be the New World Order, it has to be a burning desire to turn the frogs gay.

I can’t say for sure that most of the people spouting this bullshit fully believe it themselves. I think some of them just see this nonsense as a way of bringing people to their side. It’s not surprising, then, that the site Davis wrote for assumed his nonsense was “in jest.” But clearly, as this murder proves, there are people taking it very seriously, and those people are very dangerous.

A man died. A man is dead now because his asshole son believed everything he read on the internet. This shit is killing people, and it needs to be stopped, somehow.

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  • bbayliss

    shit.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Oh, for…aw, fuck it.

  • GoutMachine

    It’s the logical outcome of this entire subculture. The only reason I’m not surprised it hasn’t happened more is that most of them are probably candy-asses who’d cower in fear if they ever got into a debate IRL.

    And having an Enabler in Chief just makes it all the worse. They’ve always peddled in conspiracies, but it’s new levels of suck now, and it’s claiming people’s lives.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    Can’t say I’m surprised. Reading right wing/pro-Trump message boards reveals the existence of a lot of unbelievably twisted, hateful, vicious people. There is a tremendous amount of smoke. There has to be some fire.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Corn syrup has obviously ruined their minds.

  • MynameisBlarney
  • CutterTeam

    I’m getting damn close to the point where I wish the Internet had never been invented.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Yup.

    • laughingnome

      Yeah, but these psychos would still be violent. Manson just needed LSD and bad songwriting skills.

    • All the information in the world at our fingertips, something classical man would have killed for, and we trade cat pictures and racist and sexist propaganda and bullshit with each other.

      We kind of deserve our own meteor.

      • Gayer Than Thou

        Also too, pictures of college wrestlers.

        • Oblios_Cap

          I’m sensing a pattern here concerning your tastes…

        • BearGHAZI

          It’s not ‘wrestling’ if they’re naked, bro

          • Oblios_Cap

            the Greeks wrestled nude. And oiled. That’s what I read somewhere.

          • aureolaborealis

            Fake news! Who wears clothes at a gymnasium?

        • grindstone

          I watch every Tired Old Queen at the Movies video that comes out. LOVE him. He showed a posing picture of one of the body builders that was in the movie version of South Pacific — Ken Clark — I damn near swooned. So yeah, I get ya, GTT.

        • aureolaborealis

          I feel like you missed this when I posted it last week. It was for you:
          https://youtu.be/KD73xKLgb-4

          • Gayer Than Thou

            I definitely missed that. Because otherwise, I would not have missed that. If you know what I mean. Also, I’ll be in my bunk.

      • Cat Cafe
        • Shanzgood

          EVERYTHING is wrong with THAT cat picture.

      • Ill-Advised

        I can’t find the short story that ends with the Internet being a sentient being that asks for kitten videos, but you’re right about the rest of it.

        I need a nice time after this.

    • GoutMachine

      There was a book – might’ve been Dave Eggers’ “The Circle” – in which society was forced to use their real names when posting online. Made me wonder how that would change things.

      • Gayer Than Thou

        You wouldn’t have me to kick around anymore, for one thing.

      • jesterpunk
        • GoutMachine

          Huh. I hadn’t seen that. Well, at least it’d make not hiring them easier.

      • clubseal

        I think that asshole trolls would just do it anyway, because of the disconnect from reality that it would still allow.
        People were killing each other long before the internet came around, obviously, so I don’t know that it’s made things worse, so much as brought society’s more rank members’ thoughts into the light. The only thing I can think of that wouldn’t violate free speech protections would be to have the private sector businesses hosting these vile sites be boycotted and otherwise shamed into taking their business elsewhere.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        In my case, switching to my actual, real name would result in a significant drain to our nation’s strategic stockpile of consonants.

        Think about it and consider the oeuee.

    • Suttree

      I could go back to buying naughty magazines from the Kwik-E-Mart.

  • Jeffocaster in the West

    I want to know if this conspiracy has decent pizza or not. I have heard rumors. But seriously it appears there was some pedophilia in Hollywood and other places (like gymnastics) however, it ain’t a conspiracy, except for the silence.

  • See, I don’t really care if you’re marching with Hitler just to piss decent people off or because you really believe in killing all the Jews. You wear the jack boots, you’re fucking Nazi piece of shit that needs to be shunned, mocked, and humiliated preferably by being forced to jump into a river as two brothers in suits drive a speeding ex-cop car at you.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Even if not from Illinois…

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Sieg heil! Es war nur ein Witz.

      That didn’t work very well at the Nurernberg trials.

    • harryr

      “You fly with the crows, you get shot with the crows” – Scottish proverb.

    • Cornelius Fussbudget

      qui cum canibus concumbunt cum pulicibus surgent

  • Vincent Ricola

    Without googling stats and going off the knowledge I have on the Duggar family (thanks TLC!) and their Quiverfull movement, I’m guessing it’s probably not the abortion happy, bc pill-popping leftists that are molesting all the children.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Lets ask Archbishop Timothy Dolan!

  • coozledad

    Don’t trust yer soul to no backwoods southern lawyer
    cause he cain’t even find his asshole with his hayunds…https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/920701194665955330

    • Wild Cat

      Who says there’s no life during ‘The Carol Burnett Show’?

  • Upright Ape

    First, he sounds nice.
    Second, previously, I thought I couldn’t be any happier to be childless. I was wrong.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    The “it was just a joke” or “I wasn’t being serious” is the defense of last resort – it’s the only way that these pathetic people can live with the fact that they knew someone was unstable, or prone to anger, or becoming dangerous, but didn’t have the courage to say something about it. Besides, it drives the clicks and the eyeballs and the revenue, so as long as the vitriol isn’t directed at me or mine it’s a good show, right?

    • tomamitai

      It’s also what every teenage boy claims when he says something that gets him in trouble with grownups or gets his ass kicked by a bigger kid.

      • AmazingProfessionalCrastinator

        Sarah Hucksterbee Sanders has officially used it as an excuse for tRump when he’s gotten backlash on occasion, also, too.

    • harryr

      “Jeez, can’t you people take a joke?”

  • Mehmeisterjr

    Well he certainly seems like a humorist in the Benchley-Thurber-E. B. White tradition.

    It certainly is easy to see how someone could confuse his stuff with vintage Corey Ford and H. Allen Smith.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    If Hillary doesn’t denounce an imaginary pedophilia ring, that must mean it exists. If it doesn’t exist, then why the cover-up?

  • OrG

    You can’t fix stupid.

    Legally.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Betsy DeVos is going to make sure of that!

  • Wild Cat

    I’d like to have his children, but a baby buggered my anus.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Was it vegan, yodeling baby?

      • Wild Cat

        I think it was the child of Pizza Rat, hence omnivorous.

        • Suttree

          Pizza rat is a better person than these assholes.

  • CutterTeam

    (Allow me)

    HOLlyWEirD LiBs n HARveY Winer SteeN r mesSn wiTh kidZ n ObumMer n HiLlArY kneW cuz BengHazI GO TRUMP n FReEDom&!#%^$

    (End scene)

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      Aaaaaaaaaand now I can’t read. Thanks, Obama!

  • Anna Elizabeth

    In my old neighborhood, after I Came Out a Nice Christian Lady reported me to the Manager as a “Child Molester”. Because I’m Queer, see.

    • GoutMachine

      FFS. Just what Jesus would have done!

      • Anna Rompage

        What? Jesus wore a dress, preached acceptance of all, and wandered around the desert with his merry band of gay men…

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          My New New American Version bibble says he tore-ass around the desert in a Ford Shelby Baja Raptor throwing Bud Light cans at fags.

          • Anna Rompage

            And shooting at lizards with his AR-15…

          • Suttree

            Don’t forget about defacing Indian art and fucking up environmentally fragile land.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Like when a street preacher called me a Communist… but way worse…

    • CutterTeam

      They used to think that meant you wanted to fuck farm animals, so this is technically progress.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        That duck goober still thinks that. When he is the one who looks like he would like to get it on with livestock.

    • Shanzgood

      That’s funny. I was only ever child-molested by straight guys.

      • Anna Elizabeth

        Me too.

        • Shanzgood

          *hugs*

          • Anna Elizabeth

            ~hugs~

      • armed_bears

        Mrs._Armed_Bears, too.

      • weighmaster

        Me too.

      • AmazingProfessionalCrastinator

        Me, too.

    • BadKitty904

      Statistically, the VAST majority of child molesters are heterosexual. What we need are laws to keep heterosexuals away from our children!!1!

    • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

      You should have reported her as a child abuser because with an attitude like that I’m sure she is, but we are better than that.

  • Oblios_Cap

    it has to be a burning desire to turn the frogs gay.

    Well, they’ve certainly got this leftist pegged.

    • wide_stance_hubby

      ISWYDT, buster.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Hmm, there should be some good grifting moneez in founding faith-based gay frog retraining programs. Pray, pray, you frogs!

    • Jonesrassic Park

    • Gayer Than Thou

      Nobody cares about the gay frogs. The frogs are just test subjects for our larger goal of turning everyone gay and … but I’ve said too much.

  • Anna Rompage

    So in other words, all the crazy folks who hate-post on InfoWars, DeadBart, WND, Faux Nation and all those other sites that attract the deplorables this nation has, are just one eviction notice away from stabbing a family member to death, or worse…

  • Mehmeisterjr

    Should Ralph Retort leave his collected oeuvre up and on-line as an illustration of the kind of crap they push?

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Terrible attempt at Michael Jackson cosplay, Lane.

    • Wild Cat

      Sadly, it was reverse Barry White cosplay.

      • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

        Reverse Marvin Gaye with a knife instead of a gun cosplay, too.

        • Wild Cat

          You got me. I’m not a soul survivor. Will fix.

  • Crystalclear12

    Economic anxiety strikes again!

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    I was just joking when I killed him.

    • Anna Rompage

      Simulated stabbing!

    • Gayer Than Thou

      I’m sorry if you misunderstood my stabbing and died.

      • Cat Cafe

        It’s actually about ethics in stabbing journalism

  • BadKitty904

    Let me guess – “If Lane’s Dad had been armed, he could’ve shot his son and everything would be OK.”

  • Aggle Wok

    I clicked the Cheong link. I wish I hadn’t clicked the Cheong link. :/

    • Clicked it then was all, “OH FUCK close this before somebody behind me sees what I’m reading!”

      • Aggle Wok

        I was like “what the fuck is this site, OMG who talks like this, holy shit Robyn how do you do this on the regular? Let’s all buy her a spa day, holy fuck!”

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      Same here. That link needs an NSFW tag!

    • Vincent Ricola

      Me too. Then I shut my browser and cleared my cookies because WTF.

    • Bright Bart

      yep.

    • Amelia Resists and Persists

      I looked it up on incognito and yeah, regrets. My face is stuck in disgust/wtf am I reading mode now.

    • redarmyzombie

      I’m familiar enough with Encyclopedia Damatica to know you should *never* click on the link…

    • aureolaborealis

      Description for those of us who will heed your warning?

  • Jgb979

    I genuinely wish we would one day get all that mental health care that’s promised after a mass shooting

    (Because these people legitimately terrify me)

    • GoutMachine

      Yeah, about that, where are all those mental health dollars we were promised … oh, I give up.

    • Wild Cat

      Fox ‘news’ was bad enough, but everything went to fuck after CNN gave Glenn Beck his own network to rant on alongside the TV guide highlights.

    • MrTusks

      Your free bump stock is in the mail. That should set your mind at ease.

  • Suttree

    Fuck all of that “in jest” bullshit. What exactly is the difference between a Nazi screaming about killing everyone who isn’t an Aryan male, and someone “jokingly” screaming it. Absolutely nothing!

    • jesterpunk

      The Nazi has the guts to admit they are a shit bag?

      • Suttree

        Yeah, at least they’re honest about it.

  • Relativicus

    “When I say ‘I’m going to rape your children in front of you while you lay on the floor slowly bleeding out from the knife I stuck through your guts’ I’m not threatening you. It’s an ironic compliment like when Da Blacks say something is ‘bad’ when they mean it’s ‘good.’ Get a sense of humor and some Street Cred, whydoncha?”

  • Oblios_Cap

    Reagan emptied the mental hospitals and now we have Trump. Coincidence? I think not.

  • Crystalclear12

    So the vile hate and bigotry was fine until he followed thru?
    Leave it up The Ralph retort.
    You own this!

  • jesterpunk
    • Proud Liberal

      WTF?

      • Gayer Than Thou

        I’m completely confused.

      • Crank Tango

        Well, he IS the Zodiac Killer I guess.

      • Wild Cat

        “Brush up on your Fincher . . . “

    • GoutMachine

      So, Zodiac code, right?

      • jesterpunk

        Yep.

    • Wild Cat

      Cruz can’t spell “posh.” Too sophisticated for him. Must be the work of a serial killer of some kind.

    • Aggle Wok

      This would seem to imply that Ted Cruz has a sense of humor, and I am just not willing to suspend my sense of disbelief that far. It’s more logical that he IS the zodiac killer.

      • GoutMachine

        It’s really sad and pathetic when RWNJs attempt humor. Best I can say about this is, At least it’s not racist?

      • Vincent Ricola

        This had to be a staffer. Ted Cruz isn’t funny.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    OT: Speaking of deplorable:

    Las Vegas judge has reportedly made a practice of telling convicted felons to restore their voting rights so that they can help re-elect President Donald Trump in the 2020 election.

    According to court transcripts obtained by The Nevada Independent, District Court Judge Susan Johnson encouraged at least two defendants who pleaded guilty to felony charges to follow through with their probation requirements and to “vote for Trump” in 2020.

    The publication also spoke to “multiple criminal defense attorneys” who confirmed that the judge made the remarks to at least four defendants.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/vote-for-trump-las-vegas-judge-orders-felons-to-meet-probation-requirements-and-re-elect-trump-in-2020/

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Yup. Guess what her defense was? “I was just joking”.

      https://twitter.com/TheNVIndy/status/920677667837321216

      • Oblios_Cap

        What an odd sense of humor.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Jokes are almost by definition the appearance of impropriety.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        i was thinking she might have been.

        Maybe she was actually bashing them? “You dummy criminals can go vote for trump.”

        Anyway, bad form.

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          From the transcript, I think a defendant could have taken her meaning to be otherwise. A reasonable defendant? I dunno, but people at Defense table are pretty fucking attentive — and awfully literal — when a judge is talking.

    • jesterpunk

      Isnt that just a little illegal?

  • Villago Delenda Est

    When the vile thing called Cernovich screams about pedophiles, I’m inclined to think it’s pure projection, because that’s how these maggots roll.

    • Caepan

      What’s that saying? “Every accusation is a confession.”

  • Gayer Than Thou

    This is one of those stories about which it’s hard to work up the energy to snark or comment, so it’s a good thing comments aren’t allowed. If they were, I’d point out for the umpteenth time that these conspiracies make absolutely no sense. How would a massive pedophile ring spanning different industries across the entire country actually work? How could it possibly escape detection in every place at every time? How could … eh. I ran out of steam.

    • GoutMachine

      Well, reasons, obviously.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Also, why?

    • laughingnome

      They want to believe it. Maybe they are pissed they weren’t invited in.

    • Crank Tango

      Do you even Illuminati, bro?

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      It never ceases to amaze me that in Washington D.C., where the only way something isn’t leaked to the press is if you talk to yourself in a soundproof booth, somehow hundreds of people are involved in a massive conspiracy and not one soul says anything about it.

      • GoutMachine

        They’re also ggoing bing the government, which they think is incompetent, a hell of a lot of credit.

    • clubseal

      Asking questions, just like a commie librul!111!
      But seriously, I’m wondering what happens to the children who age out of the pedophilia ring. Are they murdered? Do they become pedophilia ring middle managers? Do they work in the pizza joints wherein the basements are filled with pedophiles?

      • GoutMachine

        Yes.

      • Gayer Than Thou

        Not a single one of those children has ever found his or her way to Gloria Allred?

    • Master Contrail Program

      Probably a lot of overlap with 9/11 truthers. Y’know? Never once is it ever explained how not one person, out of the thousands involved, has ever said anything. No deathbed confessions, no drunken outbursts, no slip-of-the-tongue around people who shouldn’t hear it. Remarkable really.

      • Covfefe

        I’m a 9/11 Truther. I believe 9/11 was the only thing George W. Bush did in his entire life that turned out just the way he planned it.

        • Master Contrail Program

          I have a hard time believing he planned it. Doing much of anything to prevent it and taking advantage of it are different stories though. To each their own.

      • MrTusks

        Meanwhile everyone is spilling their guts over Russia with verified correspondence to back it up and it’s apparently all a hoax.

        • Master Contrail Program

          Just like climate change.

          • Gosala

            But their emails…

  • Anna Rompage

    I suppose all speech, regardless of how profane, is a protected right, until the point where it becomes actionable…

  • btwbfdimho

    El Dorado era un shampoo,
    la virtud, unos brazos en cruz,
    el pecado, una página web.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnKHcgWZF1o

  • Cat Cafe

    Yes, my jaw dropped at that “I thought it was all in jest” bullshit, too. This is the constant refrain of bullies “HEY can’t you take a JOKE???” It has NEVER been a joke.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      It’s one of Trump’s fallback lines…

    • Mehmeisterjr

      As I may have mentioned before (endlessly), I have spent a large part of my life writing jokes or attempting to write jokes.

      Here’s the thing about jokes: Jokes have no pity. Jokes never, ever let you off the hook. Did you just get off a good joke? Ha, sucker! That was then, this is now. The next joke can and probably will fall flat.

      That’s what joking is about. It isn’t about flinging about random paranoid insults like a monkey flinging poop or Anne Coulter flinging poop.

      Jokes have to be funny to other people and lots of other people (not just your fellow loonies in the psycho ward.)

      So if I have what I think is some kind of a vaguely funny idea and I don’t phrase it exactly right, it isn’t a joke.

      It’s nothing. Absolutely nothing at all.

      Shrug shoulders, try again.

      Not one single word that this pathetic mental case ever wrote qualified as a “joke” or “humorous” or in any way “jest.”

      Jesters kick up. Assholes on Reddit kick down. And murder their own fathers.

      And then they suppress the messages in evidence.

      • Cat Cafe

        Yes. And bullies try to pretend that they’re “just joking,” when they were deadly serious.

    • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

      What kind of monster finds that amusing?

  • Gee, Your Hair Smells Horrific

    “Leftists are all pedophiles” has the same ring to it that “Jews aren’t human” does. Not that all these idiots are nazis (although some of them are), but both have the same need to paint their enemies as total monsters.

    • Anna Rompage

      And yet here we are, with one of them stabbing their own father to death…

      Who’s the monster?

      • Beanz&Berryz

        We are… apparently.

      • Covfefe

        “Yeah, well I hear it. And people have to be careful because at some point I fight back,” Trump said [about John McCain]. “I’m being very nice. I’m being very, very nice. But at some point I fight back, and it won’t be pretty.”

    • Wild Cat

      Been goin’ on fer four decades now, and essentially it’s the fault of the industry I work in.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      They need to dehumanize everyone else in order to reconcile their own hate

  • Oblios_Cap

    His father was too kind. I wouldn’t let my son(s) lay around the house and not do something constructive until they were 33 years old. I invited a couple of them to get their own nests when they tried that after graduating high school.

    • Shanzgood

      I let mine stay after he graduated because he was only 17. But he was also working and helped contribute (even if he still pees on the toilet seat). He’s about to turn 21, has a good job as a mechanic (which he loves), and is already talking on his own about leaving the nest. I’m totally okay with this.

      • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

        Even when you finally get them out, they just keep coming back. And then when you think it’s finally safe to go back in the water, they reproduce and send their children for nice, long visits….

        • Shanzgood

          I’m thinking of leaving the state when my daughter graduates.

      • clubseal

        If he’s in the market for a significant other, might I suggest he sit down while peeing, or at least wipe up the spray? You have no idea how much good will this has earned me with girlfriends.

        • Shanzgood

          I’ve mentioned that as an inducement but no dice. Maybe I should start fining him instead.

          • Oblios_Cap

            A dollar a drop!

          • divegrl

            Make him clean the bathroom

          • Shanzgood

            I’d still have to wipe the seat every morning.

          • divegrl

            So don’t make him clean the bathroom and still wipe the seat every day??? Uh, no.

          • Shanzgood

            Eh, we all have to come to terms with chronic shit our kids do. My daughter leaves all the cabinets and drawers open.

          • divegrl

            That makes it okay?

          • Shanzgood

            How about you raise your kids and I’ll raise mine, okay?

          • divegrl

            Sure. I am just amazed at parents who let their kids slide on crap and then are surprised that they don’t grow up into responsible adults. But, hey, they are your kids, not mine.

          • divegrl

            Sure thing. I am just amazed at parents who put up with crap and then are surprised when their kids dont turn into responsible adults. But they are yours, not mine.

          • Shanzgood

            There are a lot of things I love about my son and a lot of other ways he’s more responsible than other adults I know. Just because this one thing bugs me doesn’t meant I’m going to start looking into retroactive abortion.

          • clubseal

            Today’s rating: Piss poor

      • Oblios_Cap

        That certainly sounds constructive. Mine just wanted to sleep all day and party all night.

        • Shanzgood

          Mine did that for a while after he lost a job and a girlfriend within a short span of time. He finally pulled his socks up, though.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    Fuck. I have to go out and buy more booze.

    • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

      I’ve thought of soaking high grade weed in brandy or bourbon, to double the anesthetic powers. Because otherwise there just isn’t enough….

      • SomeBigRedDog

        Won’t that just make it burn faster?

        • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

          You could drink it, like tea.

      • Crank Tango

        I heat up hash in butter and rum and drink that, sweetened with a little sugar or maple syrup. I call it a Hot Cosby.

        • tomamitai

          Too soon?

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    He’ll be fine in prison. After all, he knew what he signed up for when he stabbed his father to death.

    • Anna Rompage

      I wonder if he already has a head start on those white power tattoos that he’ll get while in prison…

      • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

        Trust me, the real aryans will eat him for lunch.

  • Shibusa

    Sounds like Lane is projecting.
    Has anybody read “Birth of a White Supremacist” by Andrew Marantz in the New Yorker? It’s about Mike Enoch who went off the rails into White Supremacist BizarroWorld at some point, causing his family a lot of pain.

    • Aggle Wok

      With all these guys, I just picture that family dinner scene in American History X where Ed Norton is just ranting and ranting and raving, while the girlfriend smirks and the rest of the family is silently horrified. (Except minus the girlfriend, I’m guessing)

      • Shibusa

        Enoch (real name Mike Peinovich) was married to a Jewish woman, who left him, and he has a black (adopted) brother. It’s such a weird story.

    • Suttree

      Ayup. What a fucking piece of shit. At least change your name you fucking douchebag. It isn’t like you want to be part of that family anymore.

  • Anna Rompage

    At least this wasn’t nearly as massive of an attack as all the horrific carnage that was the result of the Bowling Green Massacre…

  • Bitter Scribe

    This shit is killing people, and it needs to be stopped, somehow.

    I’m not sure it can be stopped until these assholes grow up. And I don’t see that happening anytime soon.

    • tomamitai

      A grownup asshole is just a bigger, hairier, uglier asshole.

  • Davis admitted he stabbed his father, but entered a “not guilty” plea because he insists it wasn’t premeditated.

    He was just cleaning his knife when it suddenly went off.

    • tomamitai

      He didn’t know it was bladed.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Mass insanity- a significant portion of America has lost their F’ing minds- they’ve become completely brainwashed and utterly delusional. And no, I don’t mean insane in the clinical sense- this isn’t a mental health issue. Rather, these are just awful, hateful people with no emotional maturity, no self control and no social skills who have banded together with other awful, hateful people thanks to social media and other online communities and now feel emboldened and empowered thanks to the awful, hateful person they managed to elect president.

    • laughingnome

      We had fed the heart on fantasies,
      The heart’s grown brutal from the fare

      WB Yeats

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      #MAGA!!!

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Even the ones who I know have emotional maturity, self-control and social skills have loosed that inner anger. It’s like “Wait, I thought I knew you. You hold a steady job, you pick your kids up from school, you bring the orange slices for soccer on Saturday. Where the hell is this coming from?”

      • tomamitai

        Probably from that stuff they’re putting in the water that makes the frogs Gay!

    • tehbaddr

      Considering that they are ready to commit murder based on a false political ideology, I would definitely bin that into a psychological disorder. It might not be their fault, thanks GOP, but they are responsible for their actions.

    • Riley Whodat Venable

      They see their White Privilege slowly eroding. For many of them it is all they have left. 40 years ago a White man with a HS diploma wasn’t on easy street, but expected to work hard and be economically secure.
      He could be sure the “other” would stay at a lower standard of living. Sucks to be poor, it especially sucks if you are the first in your family.

  • BradtheBot

    Warning! Ian Michael Cheong link in article takes you to page that tries to hijack your browser (at least Firefox).

    • tomamitai

      I don’t think that happened to me, but I’m using uMatrix script blocker.

  • Gee, Your Hair Smells Horrific

    GOOD NEWS ANTIDOTE: Mississippi Jefferson Davis Elementary School renamed for Barack Obama
    http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2017/10/18/jps-school-renames-jefferson-davis-barack-obama/774892001/

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Donny will go off in 1. . .2. . . 3. . .

      • Suttree

        Donnie will go off in his pants.
        -ftfy

        • wide_stance_hubby

          And it will be much bigger and stanker than anything Obama ever did. Believe me.

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    • Crystalclear12

      I can here the exploding heads from here.

      • jesterpunk

        If you read the comments there you would see all the “economically anxious” Trump supporters complaining.

        • Grokenstein

          Heh, thanks but no thanks.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Next up: Obama National Airport

      • GoutMachine

        YES.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        rename Reagan, lol

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        And Obama on Mr. Rushmore.

      • Grokenstein

        A few years from now (maybe months, maybe even sooner) at that same school: The Trump Memorial Dumpster.

    • Oblios_Cap

      How nice~!

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      in MISSISSIPPI????? Holy shit, the apocalypse is upon us!

    • tomamitai

      Am I too cynical for wondering how many days before it’s vandalized, or too optimistic for not thinking in terms of minutes?

    • Bitter Scribe

      Boy, the comments to that article just about melted my screen. Are the rednecks MAAAAAAAD! They’re frothing about how the name is being changed from one racist to another, a commie, a Muslim…you get the idea.

      • Gee, Your Hair Smells Horrific

        Yeah, I just went and looked. I guess if you got told by right wing media every single day that Obama was a racist and communist, and all your friends on Facebook reinforced the same bullshit, you’d end up ranting in the comments just like half those people. No wonder Donald Trump is president.
        Fucking pathetic.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Liberals. You complain when someone uses a gun to kill people, then you complain when someone else uses a knife instead of a gun. There’s no pleasing you people.

    • Daniel

      I want to know what type of “knife” was used in this murder. Often the people who want to condemn knife crime don’t even know what they’re talking about. Was this a carving knife? Paring knife? Was it a poignard? A stiletto? A sgian-dubh?

      It’s really really important to know this.

      • I can’t be sure it’s a knife until Crocodile Dundee tells me so.

      • Oblios_Cap

        Swiss Army Knife or GTFO

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          A “Swiss Army Knife” is actually a multi-tool that includes a knife blade. If you don’t understand the basic terminology, how can you even form an opinion?

          • tomamitai

            Yeah, next they’ll be calling scabbards “sheaths”, the know-nothing libtards!

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          gonna take a whole bunch of stabbing with one of those…

          • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

            Even more than usual, since he was using the toothpick.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            better than the tweezers, he’d have been there all day…

      • wide_stance_hubby

        Don’t know type, but it is said to glow blue in the presence of liberals.

        • Jennaratrix

          *snerk*
          ICWYDT.

        • aureolaborealis

          Librist!

      • Shibusa

        Ginsu.

      • Jennaratrix

        And also too, did he acquire it legally? Because if so, any conversation about knife control is pointless.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          pointless knives?

          • Jennaratrix

            Um, I did that on purpose? Yeah, that’s the ticket.

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        An oyster knife. With pearls in the handle.

    • Suttree

      “His father should have shot the shit out him.”

      -Wingnut logic

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      I’m just glad he didn’t use a spoon, because then all those people saying we’re in favor of spoon control would feel vindicated.

  • Crystalclear12

    Depressing question of the day:
    How would his internet buddies react if he had killed some random black guy instead of his father?

    • Crank Tango

      By digging up dirt on the black guy.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      “The hoodie wearing, Skittle wielding n***er had it coming!”

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Emojis?

    • Suttree

      Like it was x-mas, New Year’s, and the Fourth of July all wrapped into one.

    • jesterpunk

      They would have a party.

    • Vincent Ricola

      $150,000 to the gofundme legal defense account within the first 12 hours. :(

      • Shanzgood

        I thought gofundme didn’t allow that?

        • Vincent Ricola

          You’re probably right. I’m not up on which fundraising platform they use anymore. Good on gofundme for stopping them.

    • They’d set up a GoFundMe legal defense fund, then not contribute anything to it themselves.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      It would be kinda funny. Because the black guy deserved it. Get it? I’ll be here all week. Killing black guys. And my father.

  • WotsAllThisThen

    Who else is hungry for pizza right now?

    • Bitter Scribe

      I’m going to buy my sister some for her birthday in a few hours. (She’s allergic to most cakes, and we like pizza better anyway.)

  • Panika MCD

    I hope a court requires the site to maintain all records somewhere so it can be reviewed by all involved. I’m not saying they should be maintained for public consumption, but those records would go to motive and any comments may help prevent the next one.

    • Bitter Scribe

      Sure, and even if they manage to delete stuff, there’s always the Wayback Machine.

  • cheetojeebus

    Don’t cha wish these sorts of idiots would assert their difference/unique qualities via UFO sightings or inventing a perpetual motion machine? or flea powder that tastes great? all this fucking hate is gettin’ mighty old.

  • Jack Takes A Knee

    Problem is, these sociopaths think it’s just high-larry-us that real people are suffering and dying as a result of their ‘antics’. It’s about pushing buttons for these kinds of people. Anything that can get someone else to lose their shit is their goal . What we’re talking about here is a group of people without a guiding morality. People without conscience or reason. That’s why they gravitate towards the Orange One. Sociopaths love their own kind.

  • h4rr4r

    Mr.Clean sure has gone downhill.

    • Christopher Story

      It’s all the trailer park meth

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    Dad didn’t understand it was meant to be IRONIC. He just kept bleeding and bleeding.

    • Daniel

      Which was funny because he clearly got emotionally involved in being stabbed, which meant he lost.

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        So thin-skinned and sensitive, he simply bled out. I knew his weakness would kill him one day.

        • Daniel

          The best part was how he stuck a Pepe meme to his spine. So many likes for that.

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      Like in “Cell Block Tango”: “Then he ran into my knife. He ran into my knife TEN TIMES!”

  • tehbaddr

    Yup! This is the type of critter we are up against, now that they’ve been emboldened and are crawling out of the woodwork (or Dad’s/Mom’s basement)!

  • Vincent Ricola

    OT again – I don’t recognize any of these “journalists” asking softball questions in the WH press briefing. Who in the hell are these people and where is Jim Acosta?! The fuck kinda shit is this?!

    • Bobathonic

      Scripted kinda shit?

      • Vincent Ricola

        It’s on a whole other level today.

    • OrG

      Fascist shit?

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Oh, none of the regulars are gonna get called on today. Today is all about massaging Donnie’s wounded ego.

      • Khavrinen

        Gonna be a loonnngggg day…

  • TJ Barke

    What is “leftism”? What are its core principles? It’s keeping the powerful from exploiting the vulnerable. That is its most basic concept. If you think that is wrong, then seriously, take a flying fucking leap at a rolling donut.

    • clairence

      I like donuts.

    • Oblios_Cap

      mmm…donuts.

    • BigCSouthside

      Leftism: I climbed this ladder. I wonder if we could make the ladder easier to climb and bigger so more people can climb it

      Right wing: I climbed this ladder. Now I’m gonna light in on fire cuz Fuck You

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Not to minimize your point, but I’m thinking taking a flying leap out of a rolling donut might be kinda fun if you did it right. Roll a giant donut down a hill towards a lake, then leap out over the cool water… (yes, it’s the end of October and it’s still hotter than blazes here)

    • Rebel Scum with permit
    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      I think it’s simpler than that. If you’re not a true believer, you’re a leftist. So anyone to the left of the Austrian painter dude is a commie.

      • Daniel

        Egon Schiele?

    • An Outhouse for the résistance

      ‘Leftists’ practice cultural Marxism. or something like that.

  • chazmanr

    “But a whole lot of them sincerely believe the same things Lane Davis believed.”

    Um, did Lane die? Have a change of heart upon arrest? I suspect Lane still believes the same things too.

  • clairence

    “I thought it was all in jest, but hindsight is always 20-20.”

    Uh, oh, angry man-children. Exposed as comic relief. If you’re not laughing, then they’re laughing at you, too.

  • armed_bears

    I choose not to be concerned about a wanna-be tough guy who will soon be going jail. With real bad guys.

    • A LITtle Annoyed, Yet ARoused

      Unfortunately if he tells them he killed a pedophile, he’ll get a pass. They most likely won’t know it’s not true that he wasn’t.

      • AmazingProfessionalCrastinator

        They do watch the news in prison. Also, too, if an inmate from the county jail where he’s currently held precedes him to the state pen, they’ll know the truth.

    • Mysterious Masked Wrestler

      There are plenty of nazis in jail. If anything, they’ll welcome him with open arms.

  • Oblios_Cap

    Such a wholesome looking lad, too.

    I imagine he won’t be described as ” a quiet guy who kept to himself” or ” the last person that I thought would do something like that”.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      He might, however, be “the first person that I thought would do something like that.”

    • Ωbjectifier

      More like ‘That asshole? Figures.’

  • Daniel Hooper

    Everybody’s worried about Russian social engineering and other mind games being used to influence people’s choices and behaviors. They use shadowy Facebook pages, bots, and other highly complicated techniques to try and reprogram people to their will.
    When I read a story like this, I think they’re putting way too much effort into it. People are way too easily manipulated of their own free will to need all that complicated stuff.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    And we let these people have children.

  • wide_stance_hubby

    AND FOR THE RECORD,TRUMP HAS ALREADY PERSONALLY CALLED THE KNIFE!!12342!

    • Stulexington

      And we are pleased to report that the knife, Mac, is recovering well from it’s trauma.

      • wide_stance_hubby

        No wonder with all those thoughts ‘n prayers it’s getting!

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        ‘Cause of Putin’s… FSB, yeah…
        Pools of yellow… start to spread…

  • Pisto75666

    Sounds to me like Ralphie doesn’t want to have culpability now that the fit has hit the shan

  • chazmanr

    it has to be a burning desire to turn the frogs gay.

    I for one won’t be happy until there isn’t a straight frog remaining on the planet.

    • Oblios_Cap

      They’re onto us!

      • chazmanr

        Hey, if they can’t make up their minds as to whether they are land or aquatic animals, we can at least help them along with their sexual orientation.

        • Dudleydidwrong

          Today: the frogs!
          Tomorrow: the toads!
          Then our fiendish scheme will be complete.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Slowly heating up the pot to a burning desire…

    • Dominique Théberge

      Lets get real: the frogs were always pretty gay.

  • Ilgattomorte

    I am a Liberal. I’m not a pedophile. I’ve never been to a New World Order meeting. I don’t even really know what a “Cultural Marxist” is. Admittedly, I have been working for the last 4 years on turning frogs gay.

    In my defense, I’m only gaying young, underage frogs, and only because I’m trying to create a new frog society. You know, a society where all frogs are equal and can share equally in the fruits of their froggy economy.

    • Zippy W Pinhead
      • Randy Riddle

        Everybody loves the ‘Michigan Rag’.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          And parfaits…

    • RMKH

      So you’re a tadpoleophile

    • TJ Barke

      A cultural marxist is basically anyone that tries to make society more fair, and tries to get others to think in similar terms.

    • Yellerduck

      You should come to our next NWO meeting! Coincidentally, we have a cultural marxist guest speaker that night. It is in the ballroom at the abortionplex, just past the straight conversion clinic.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    So . . . the whole question of whether he could stay up past 10 is settled? Not settled?

    • grindstone

      That….I shouldn’t have laughed at that.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      I think it’s settled for good, now. Where he’s going lights out is earlier.

  • Paperless Tiger

    This may be the effect of right wing propaganda on a weak mind. There’s nothing wrong with representing your point of view, but lately the right wing media has been using weapons grade propaganda techniques on their followers, and the results are coming in. Most of it is just shocking hate speech, but the potential for violence is growing. Incitement is not free speech. Congress must act to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      I think civil law suits against some of these groups are the only thing that could stop it. People would think twice if they thought their property or paychecks were at stake. It’ll never happen, though. It would be impossible to prove

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Tough case to win without stepping all over the first amendment to do so.

        • Rebel Scum with permit

          There is the fire in a crowded theater thing. But unless someone specifically said “liberals are all pedophiles and everyone in this group should kill them on sight” I don’t know how you’d prove it.
          A lawyer would tell me not to quit my day job, which is being retired, anyway.

  • Scooby

    The poor father. He didn’t want to give up on his son even though it was clear he was a raging maniac. I’ve seen it happen with friends that excuse their kids violent behavior.

  • C4TWOMAN

    “In fact, after today, I’m erasing all of his articles.”

    I’m not sure erasing proof of this fiasco is the right play. I’d lock all new commenting and add a prominent disclaimer at the top of each article.

    • Stulexington

      It’s totally the right play, erase all the evidence and pretend it never happened, why in 3 months he’ll say “Lane who? no he never worked here.” problem solved.

      Oh wait, you meant from the taking personal responsibility and doing the right thing perspective, yeah that train left decades ago.

    • I hope someone got screencaps

      • C4TWOMAN

        There’s always Wayback Machine.

    • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

      It rather sounds like someone is trying to avoid being shown to be culpable and also that probably erases him egging the guy on.

  • Mavenmaven

    You see, it is true, the effects of rap upon the minds of the masses? Though in this case, that Trump rap made me want to rip my own ears off.

    • Jennaratrix

      You listened to it? Do you have a death wish?

    • Stulexington

      Oh you poor dear, quick, alcohol to stop the death of brain cells. It totally works that way, shudup!

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        Alcohol can be a much-needed boost for your neural-darwinism process.

  • Unemployed loser who lived with his parents and had no income… typical Gamergater. He probably figured his father would respawn in the kitchen after he was stabbed multiple times.

    • C4TWOMAN

      I know you’re snarking, but I bet that’s true on an emotional level. Real Life isn’t real to these people.

      • aureolaborealis

        Not at all surprising. When I was most heavily into gaming (almost 20 years ago), I found myself reacting IRL to things the way I would react in-game. Nothing dangerous, just weird:
        “Why did I just do that?”
        “Oh, I was hugging the wall there to keep my detectability crystal from lighting up.”
        This was while walking through the halls of a mostly dark building on my way to the evening class I was teaching, and it led to some questioning of my life choices.

  • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

    I’m copying from the article because this is so spot-on that it bears repeating:

    The Right is desperately clinging to conspiracy theories these days, because they honestly don’t have a better way of “attacking” us. They have to make shit up. It can’t be that we just think poor people should have health care, or that the police shouldn’t brutalize unarmed black people — it has to be something more. Because, frankly, those are incredibly unconvincing reasons to be filled with such vitriol. It’s hard to feel “righteous” when you are fighting for the right to screw the poor and hurt vulnerable people. Plus, if they were to complain about things the Left was actually doing, rather than things they made up, they would be very, very boring. So it has to be pedophile rings, it has to be “cultural Marxism,” it has to be the New World Order, it has to be a burning desire to turn the frogs gay.

    • Stulexington

      Woot! I get to upfist it now!

    • Beanz&Berryz

      And the Right makes up strawman arguments of the Left ALL THE TIME, also too.

    • Randy Riddle

      No truer words have been spoken by a mommy blog with dick jokes.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      They’ve lived with rage for so long they just can’t stop. Then they get their bright shiny victory, and they feel like we pissed in their corn flakes. It’s not our fault that conservatives are shitty at governance and also they picked a dolt for president.

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        They’re mad ’cause we’re not telling them they were right all along.

      • themidniteskulker

        People get addicted to certain emotions, and need a hit now and then.

        • Rebel Scum with permit

          I’m afraid I’ve got a rage addiction myself these days. Trump never disappoints.

      • gingerwentworth1

        So much hatred for Liberals, that Russians just seem like a fun novelty!

    • Gussie Jives

      This. So much this.

    • BadKitty904
    • Cornelius Fussbudget

      There are so many people who know for sure, in their heart of hearts, that Hillary Clinton just can’t be trusted. They have no idea why, and they don’t seem to care, either. It’s the strangest thing. I guess part of being successfully brainwashed is forgetting the brainwashing process itself.

  • C4TWOMAN

    On the subject of unemployed Internet Warriors living off their parents, this bring me to an old dilemma I have regarding a political grifter:

    On one hand , I am 99.9999% sure she’s a liar who doesn’t really believe that there are “agents”, or doubts the Holocaust happened or believes that “911 was an Inside Job”. All evidence points to her wittingly involving leftist and antiwar people in a libertarian political con, KNOWING it was all bullshit.

    On the other hand, she gets insanely, out of control ragey when confronted with their lies, and is very invested in keeping up the fron. She literally lives in her parent’s basement(or did ) and has a kid. Her rage is so out of control and irrational I sometimes wonder if any of them are in immediate danger.

    On the third hand, I know her immediate family knows some of these activities, and being ex-pastors in good community standing, you’d think they’d have some idea how to stage and intervention.

    Is there anything more I should do I’ve not thought of? I have reported some of these activities to the FBI and other organizations, FWIW….

    • shivaskeeper

      Stay the fuck away. If others, including her immediate family, are aware and still do nothing, the best you can do is confront her and dump her.

      • C4TWOMAN

        Oh, don’t worry, no contact has been established years ago…at least on my side. I was just wondering if there was something obvious I missed visavis reporting/etc.

        Her gang have actually been pretty marginalized by Antifa after being caught in less than honest activities. She’s faded from the left, activist IRL scene: last sighting was trying to schmooze up to an Australian feminist on Twitter during Gamergate–needless to say, that person was warned.

        • shivaskeeper

          Public ridicule if you see her in you feeds. Continue warning everyone until she is isolated by everyone except the fringiest of the fringe. They are probably about as lost of a cause as you describe her as.

  • Viktor

    He looks like Billy Corgan

    • Iam Reading

      Isn’t Billy a tea party tool?

  • Randy Riddle

    “The Right is desperately clinging to conspiracy theories these days, because they honestly don’t have a better way of “attacking” us.”

    No, I really disagree. Basically, the GOP motivated a previously neglected voting bloc – the severely mentally ill – and they’ve pretty much taken over the party.

    • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

      As a person living with a severe mental illness, I kindly ask you to cut that out. Hate and ignorance and pure evil are NOT mental illnesses.

      • Lee Hillhouse

        The DSM lists everyone from Sylvia Plath to Charles Manson, from depression to psychopathy. I, too, live with a severe mental illness. Denying the worst of us does not help.

        • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

          Really? You’re of no help at all.

          • Lee Hillhouse

            You aren’t. I did not write the DSM. Only the truth helps. This denial is part of why it was so easy for Reagan to cut all funding for mental health and so the worst of us get no help. Unless you call that behavior stellar sanity…

          • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

            I’m talking about the usage of depersonalizing labels, that’s all. The OP stated that “the severely mentally ill” have taken over the GOP. That is incorrect and what I am addressing. You somehow want to drag the DSM into this and then refer to Charles Manson as “us”. Sanity and mental illness are NOT the same. One is a legal term, the other is clinical.

      • Lee Hillhouse

        I am also a militant homosexual, just BTW.

      • Lee Hillhouse

        …. and I, too, have severe mental illness, hospitalized for two years and used to live on the streets.

    • C4TWOMAN

      I think you are correct in the mechanics, but wrong in your conclusion. It’s not the mentally ill who were mobilized–who as others have pointed out is off base–but the racist extremists who felt no one represents them and had stopped voting at all.

      • Randy Riddle

        You’re assuming that extreme racism and bigotry isn’t a psychological problem.

    • Claire

      Not to mention the severely uneducated and unskilled. It’s like if the women in the Spock’s Brain episode suddenly found themselves with profoundly disproportionate voting power in the Federation.

      “Brain and brain! What is – never mind, Trump talks like us, must be good guy.”

  • Michael Smith

    I’m not sure it can be stopped until things that I really don’t want to happen start happening.

  • Lucas Foxx

    No wonder you are skipping Seattle on your Drinkin-with-the-locals tour. Skagit: come for the lovely views, stay because your thank-less spoiled children stab you to death.

    • shivaskeeper

      Seattle is King, not Skagit.

      • Lucas Foxx

        Oh, well, then. No wonder my commute is so terrible.

  • Machnethylsteinerbincolabird

    I used to spend some time on 4chan (mostly for the porn), but once in a while I would venture into /r (random) board… a lot of the stuff was very funny, mostly just silly, harmlessly stupid, but then again once in a while I noticed somebody would bust out with all this really vitriolic, over-the-top stuff about the Jews, or Jewish actresses being whores, or some other weird thing like that, just obnoxious, crazy-ass shit… and a lot of racist stuff too… I remember at the time I just thought it was ironic and weird and random and I guess actually kind of funny in a way that maybe I was too old or square to understand… it wasn’t until this whole thing with Chancellor Shitstane happened and then I started hearing about how Pepe the frog had become a symbol of the white power movement, and then I thought back to some of those things I hadn’t taken seriously before. It makes you wonder about all the dangerous stuff that is being said a lot of which might go right over people’s heads at the time.

  • anon_the_great

    Wierd part is I live in Washington too and yet this this patricide largely went unnoticed. A decade ago this shit would have been ‘Murder of the Century’ up here but now it’s a so much noise.

  • Ricky Gay

    But, but, the LOLZ!!11!

  • Mr. White

    Yeeeesh. Reminds me of a lovely interaction I had with someone of a similar mindset last week. Silly me, I posted a meme on my Facebook page about the Vegas shootings. A batshit nazi posted a crazy rant about the Clintons being responsible for every mass shooting, that I must come from single-sex parents, go so far as to ridicule my profession. Normally Im more amused than frightened of such asshats, but this guy actually scared me a bit. The complete disconnect from reality, the level of hate and anger. Scary stuff.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      It was joke!

    • HazooToo

      If your Facebook has your real name on it, you might want to change that.

  • Gussie Jives

    This is exactly why I considered “Gamergate” such a cause celebre of the right-wing modus operandi. It worked on all the same things: bigotry, conspiracy theories, hyperbolic threats, an ever-shifting narrative, all the shit that every subsequent right-wing temper tantrum has conformed to since. As Robyn says, it’s all they really have to justify their actions, not only to each other but to themselves most of all. If they can convince themselves that they are doing something righteous, be it for video games or the “future of white children” or somesuch crap, harassing a woman or assaulting people can be palatable. Hence, they have to hype the threat: we’re not just interested in increasing some taxes on the wealthy who can afford it to provide poor people basic health care, no, suddenly we’re communists out to throw conservatives into gulags or something.

    There’s no performative element. There’s no irony. There’s no satire. Whatever stupid shit they come up with like “Kekistan” is just a veneer of ridiculousness to make it look like it’s just a joke. The iconography might be, but the intent behind it is far from benign. As Robyn says, it gets people killed.

    • shivaskeeper

      A lot of this is built off the religious right’s persecution complex and trying to make their lives interesting. They get to be righteous and great while not doing anything at all if they pretend everyone who is not just like them is a monster. They can better than their neighbors by just existing if their neighbors are pedophiles.

      Fred Clark, The Slacktavist, on Pathos has some exvellebtvand eloquent summaries of this phenomenon at his blog.

    • Claire

      I’m not sure I agree that there’s no performative element. Remember that these guys won’t listen to anything said by women or minorities; their sole audience is other white men. That’s who performative masculinity is performed for: other men, because no one else matters. Everything else you point out, though, I agree with.

      • Gussie Jives

        Insofar as they’re conforming to the expectations placed on them by others of their clique, perhaps. But you don’t start wanting to impress the worst of the internet without being an awful person to begin with.

        • Claire

          I feel like we might be using “performative” a little differently. If so, my comment is entirely withdrawn and I totally agree with your second comment.

  • Robyn Ryan

    State legislatures have been sabotaging elementary education for decades.

    • Keith Taylor

      My oath they have!

  • Mehmeisterjr

    ♫ Gamergate,
    Up in the wingnut tree.
    Gamergate,
    No bitch should design, sez we.

    Have your tiny wee-wees,
    Hurt your covfefes?
    Only his not hers,
    Work in computers.

    It is so sad.
    Stab to death your Dad.
    It’s a jest, hee, hee, hee. ♫

  • Iam Reading

    Someone needs to get ahold of cernovich’s browser history. I’m certain that guy’s a pedophile as much as he bleats about it all the time.

  • Grokenstein

    While the second half of the article makes an excellent statement, and I think that a horrifying number of idiots DO sincerely believe all the “LOL pedos LOL” bullshit, I have to wonder if Davis murdered his old man because he legitimately thought he was a leftist pedo, or if Davis was simply terrified of the prospect of getting kicked out and having to find a real job to support himself.

    • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

      I’ll take what’s behind door number latter for two hundred, Alex.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        Yep.

    • shivaskeeper

      Robyn is probably spot on. He didn’t start out be living it until he did. Too much time in the echo chamber. Too much time having his people reinforce everything he said as gospel truth. There was no way he wouldn’t come around to thinking everything he said was true.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      “terrified of the prospect of getting kicked out and having to find a real job…”

      Well, problem solved.

  • shivaskeeper

    You hit on one of pet theories.

    I don’t think the majority of these shitheels actually believe any of this when they jump into it. There are exceptions, of course, but I think mist of them are doing just to offensive picks. But the longer they stay in the more likely they are to start actually believing the bullshit they spread around.

    Glenn Beck is my poster boy for this. He didn’t really believe the bullshit chalk board, connect the dots and circles, fill in all the hidden connections crap he spewed. It was his shtick to pull in the rubes. Until he did start to believe his own shtick.

    That was when he had his meltdown and was too toxic even for Fox.

    Jokes and memes and snark. My ass. Robyn, you are 100% correct. It’s all jokes until suddenly it isn’t.

    How does it get fixed? My best answer is unceasing mockery. Never ending shaming for being utterly derranged by choice. Total blowing off of their opinions and ideas by anyone who has even a tenuous grip on reality. No more avoiding the confrontation with them until it is far to late. They are entitled to their opinion and they also entitled to all the mockery their opinion is worth. Most of the current crop is probably too far gone. Letting the next crop go needs to be stopped.

    • CafeenMan

      I’ve been saying this for years but mostly in regard to the media treating these people like they have a valid point of view.

      My view is that they should be treated like all crazy people on the street with bullhorns yelling whatever deranged shit they’re yelling – end of the world, jesus is coming, abducted by ufo’s or whatever.

      And the way we treat them is to move away from them as quickly as possible and laugh.

      What we don’t do is invite them into the studio where they get to broadcast their craziness while be treated as normal and serious people.

      Yet the media does invite crazies from the political world and the internet.

      This is how birtherism should have gone:

      “Hey Bob, did you hear the crazy story story about Obama being born in Kenya? LOLOL!!!”

      “Yeah, Denise, I did. It’s hard to beieve there are nuts out there who believe this garbage. Obviously the State Department already vetted anyone running for President and if they didn’t pass muster they wouldn’t be allowed to run. Now for real news…”

      And it’s never mentioned again.

      Instead they carried on with it for years as if there were some validity to it and it was a “he said/she said” kind of situation.

      • shivaskeeper

        Regarding the media. I think its s combination of he said/she sad, both siderism, and using the cranks to get a ratings boost by being controversial and edgy. They should be laughed out of the studio, but the journalists are almost as bad in the quest to fill the news cycle.

        When a serious journalist is asking if a small black hole could have opened and swallowed a plane that crashed into the ocean, looking at you Don Lemon, for the sake of filling in some time we have a problem.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Same with Benghazi. The real media should have exposed that bullshit for what it was – deranged fantasy from loonies at Fox News. Why the regular media pretends Fox News is real is beyond my comprehension.

        • CafeenMan

          Yep. Pretty much any declaration made by a Republican should be treated that way until they can show they have actual facts backing their declaration.

          Another good example is “trickle down”. I admit that it sounds good and I’m no economist. But 40+ years of it has proven it’s a load of bullshit and every time a Republican tries to sell it the media should laugh them out of the studio (or never have them in the studio in the first place).

          • Ill-Advised

            NPR interviewed Arthur Laffer earlier this month. Just the sound of his voice got on my nerves. Patronizing the credulous. There’s a man who had never been outside of his own bubble.

        • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

          Ramen!

      • nightmoth

        Yes! Yes! ^THIS^

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Most of them are loners who just want to belong to something. It’s a way for them to fit in somewhere.

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        A level of desperation I can’t even fathom.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          Not all loners turn out to be hateful idiots. I don’t know why these idiots don’t find a better cause, like maybe animal rights.

          • javadavis

            Joining a WoW style online video game would be an immensely better cause already. At least they would be only shooting pixels and some might even come up with another music video.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMxKWq_pSso

          • sillyclucker

            Maybe it’s the ones that are loners due to being rejected by others that become the problem. I consider myself a loner by choice. I’m around people all day at work which is more than enough for me. In my precious free time, my preference is to be at home with my animals and have zero human contact. I’m not at all lonely. I prefer my own company and that of my animals. These times are when I’m truly happy.

      • shivaskeeper

        Wanting to fit in is one thing. Starting to believe your own brand of bullshit is something else.

        Losing your own sense of reality to the point where you can’t tell your own lies from the truth is what I’m talking about.

        Being a loner is immaterial to them never being called out on it, online or in person, before they hit that point.

        • Keith Taylor

          I agree. The danger of promoting bullshit is the danger of starting to believe it. I wonder how many phoney psychics and prophets started out just wanting to avoid honest work, and then, as people began to believe in them, had what they told themselves was an epiphany and thought, “Hey, maybe there is something to this after all and maybe I can really do it.”
          The poet Robert Browning was hip this self-deception process in 1864. Check out his “Mr. Sludge, the Medium”, pretty much unknown now, and see if you think it’s relevant in our culture. I do.

  • Lorindel Ó Loingsigh

    I swear, every time I go away for a few days, there’s a new passel of fuckery when I get back. They’re gonna need some heavy duty industrial cleaning stuff to douche out the White House after 2 scoops is led away by the men in the white coats. As to this fuckwad? Where’s he’s going, there won’t be any xbox unless he submits to his new roommate.

  • Lane Davis was a 33-year-old unemployed loser who lived with his parents and had no income to speak of.

    The losers at Ralph Retort jettisoning one of their own with such a description is quite the self own.

    • They jettison their own the second any of them get caught doing something.
      Every time.
      The next step is to claim he was a leftist all along

  • WhoCheckedRussia’sVoterID

    What gives…I’m a feminist and I’m fucking beautiful.

    • Me not sure

      I’m a feminist and I’m a fucking man.

      • Even on wednesdays?

        • Me not sure

          Especially Wednesdays.

  • Kooolest G

    not sure what this means, but the beat under his “rap” is from a jesus freak beat maker named mr. john 5:24. here’s the song he made with it and it’s ironic title “I’m a felon and I’m blessed to be alive”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3UPz1IjvDo

  • Blackest Noobs

    imagined my shocked, JUST SHOCKED, surprise that this turned out to be ANOTHER WHITE GUY.

    hey America, we got a White Guy problem.

    • Claire

      No shit we do. I think we’d do better to put white boys into cryogenic suspension when they hit puberty and let thrm out again when they’re 30.

      • Blackest Noobs

        more like 68.

      • mailman27

        Hey, wait! I enjoyed my twenties.

  • bluicebank

    “Now they’re deciding that not only do they
    disagree with the Left, politically, but that we all molest children,
    which is pretty much the worst thing anyone can do.”

    I would argue otherwise, since the worse evil is to advocate that we all die horribly, which seems to be the common result of modern conservatism, that would also include the extinction of everything down to microbes (except for their little niche which will somehow get raptured out of the clusterfuck they support). They can use pedofilia as their current bugaboo all they want, but I get the sense that they don’t really care about the issue. What was it decades ago? Oh yes, Satanism. Or was it still the Communists?

    They don’t give a shit. They are tribal, and their belief system is violently tribal. Or to sum up: “Kill them all, and let God sort them out.” Except they don’t even want an Almighty doing the sorting.

    • Smibo

      Also too; given their well-documented penchant for projection, their obsession with accusing the Left of being child-molesting pedophiles should be grounds enough for rational people to be giving them some serious side-eye in that regard.

      • bluicebank

        Yep.

      • Claire

        I don’t know that it’s even projection per se, tbh. I think it’s a profound inability to understand that other people might actually see the world differently from them or act from other motives. Ones that, ffs, don’t involve raping the most vulnerable among us just because they think it makes them more manly somehow.

      • HarpyLibtart

        Yup, just like all those rabidly anti-gay conservatives/pastors/public officials who HATE homosexuality until they get caught doing some man-loving on the down-low, I suspect a lot of the alt-right’s obsession with child molesters stems from the same source….

        • Keith Taylor

          I checked the online record of hard-line right wingers and GOP members who have been actually charged and convicted on grounds of sex with minors. It was eye-opening. As for evangelists, when it isn’t sexual offences, it’s usually fraud and tax evasion. A matter of legal record, not empty accusation or conspiracy theory.

    • Keith Taylor

      And … it wasn’t me who thought and wrote this first, I think it might even have been the amazing Robyn Pennacchia, here on Wonkette, but whether or no …
      They need to hate with a total seething hate and feel they are right to do so. That isn’t easy over a mere political or social disagreement. Therefore, they have to see those who disagree with them as perverted Satanist child-sacrificing cannibals, and traitors and enemies of God and the U.S.A., and rage and roar and demand their extermination like a bunch of insensate Daleks.
      Because they are so emotionally fucked that it’s the closest thing to a real feeling they are ever going to know.

  • kfreed

    Conspiracy theories… straight up propaganda and they know it. The bullshit simply gives horrible asshats an EXCUSE to do the horrible shit they’d do anyway. Grown man gets kicked out of the house (allegedly) for being a disgusting piece of work and kills his father. End of story. Your Libertarian pals in action: “Ron Paul’s New World Order conspiracy theory video”: https://newsone.com/1754815/ron-pauls-new-world-order-conspiracy-theory-video/

    There are no “good” Nazis: SPLC: “The dark side of the ‘Paul Phenomenon'”
    https://newsone.com/1754815/ron-pauls-new-world-order-conspiracy-theory-video/

    Stop buying into their “just being ironic” excuses. That would be helpful.

  • BearDeLaOursistance

    Dr. Evil sure lost a lot of weight!

  • Riley Whodat Venable

    Well, this slug will finally be moving out of his parent’s house. Free rent for the rest of his life.

  • Delu

    The vanguard in an actual war against “the left” by the violence loving Trumpians

    Could be. I mean I know they would buy a conspiracy like this if the roles were reversed…..

  • Claire

    And these are the guys who literally cannot wrap their heads around why women might prefer other men or singlehood.

    PRO TIP, GUYS LIKE THIS: IT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE DISGUSTING.

  • Zyxomma

    Wow. This is Arizona Wilder-worthy.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    Yet another lone wolf lost from the pack. I don’t suppose the Faux News gasbags will be talking about how he got “radicalized”.

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  • LadyLaz

    Thank you for this. Every time people say stuff like “it’s just to piss you off” or “you mad bro?” I want to scream. Language forms our reality. The language we use, the rhetoric, makes us who we are. This is not hippie dippy stuff, this is biomechanics. Words matter.

    • gingerwentworth1

      Yes. And the issue of ‘political correctness’ is to me the very essence of this problem. The right is the beneficiary of the left’s political correctnes and has been all along, or all non-left people would never get to say things like “the earth is 300 years old” and be received politely. Also, they’d never get to say “I really believe he’s going to make America great again” without being laughed out of the room.
      What the right has turned into an outrageous imposition on them is actually just a request that they be considerate of others, but they resent that so much, just as they resent the idea of paying for Head Start! And so, according to their usual pattern, they make themselves the victim. I know I’m right.

      • Nine

        I’ve taken, lately, to being semi-open with RWNJs.

        And when they whine, as they always do, I just say “hey, I’m just not being PC.”

        The difference is, I’m not trolling them, and I’m not going out of my way to be obnoxious.

  • Lily412

    Oh, man. I didn’t know encyclopedia dramatica was still around!

  • andyshelt

    Well I’m shocked. Shocked that a RWNJ would prove to be a mentally disturbed killer. They’re normally so polite and respectful of others’ views while demonstrating empathy and compassion for their fellow man.

  • Lily412

    I have witnessed the blurred lines between “sincere” and “for the lulz” firsthand. Some 4-channers and internet denizens really are just trolls trolling trolls, but the more you’re exposed to vitriol like that, the more you internalize it.
    The guy I dated for most of college was a good guy, but he was also dark and weird like me. I really felt like I’d found someone for life. I remember one time we had dinner with his family, and somehow we were talking about race. Someone made a jab at his grandparents about their questionable opinions on black people. His conservative Italian grandmother, in an attempt to defend herself, pipes up with “well, some of them are okay!” We laughed our asses off at the irony of that and how horrible it was.
    Fast forward a few years later. Boyfriend got a job where his coworkers were all good-ol-boys and tea partiers. He also spent WAY too much time on 4-chan. Then it started. He and his brother would make “jokes” they saw on /b/ about women and minorities. They’d use racist slurs that I don’t want to repeat. But “it’s funny because it’s taboo” was always the defense. Soon, the “jokes” stop being followed by laughter. They were delivered in angry and exasperated tones. I’d have to sit and listen to him bitch about poor people affecting health care costs, and how gross and dirty poor black families were. I was always cringing and waiting for him to say “but some of them are okay.”
    In the end, it caused the death of our relationship because I couldn’t be with someone I didn’t respect. Truthfully, I still resent him a little to this day for taking away the one person I loved the most and replacing him with someone unrecognizable.

    • Gussie Jives

      What these clowns don’t seem to realize is that whenever these terrible things are referenced (war, genocide, murder) in a satirical manner by black comedies or ironic works, there’s always more to the joke than “LOL this’ll upset the squares!” It has a target. It has a point. And this is key: it does have an end goal. Eventually, performances of The Producers come to an end. The TV show rolls the credits. The stand-up performer leaves the stage. You’re not breathing toxicity 24/7. Spending all one’s time on 4chan is.

      They do a disservice to comedy with this repeated lame excuse for their bullshit.

  • Dolmance

    What the hell, I still can’t figure out what ‘gamers’ are. What, do they play a lot of Pac Man and shit?

    • Lily412

      People that turn a hobby into their whole identity.

  • I am reading Kill all the Normies by Angela Nagle a book on how the festering cesspool of “ironic” “transgressive” losers became Donald Trump most loyal fuck boys. It is really interesting historically but the author seems to equate the Tumblr culture on the left with these right-wing losers. She seems to see them as mirrored opposites although no pansexual otherkins have advocated legalizing rape, run massive dark web drug rings or committed mass murder. The book was published right before Charlottesville and to read her interviews trying to maintain her thesis after that tragedy is both sickening and fascinating.

  • MyLovelyNose

    Looks like he’s trying to be Mr. Clean. Bald, earrings.

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