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Donald Trump is preparing a beautiful new executive order that could destabilize Obamacare’s individual markets in the name of “lower premiums.” While we won’t have the details until he actually releases the thing, probably tomorrow, he promised on TwitterTuesday that he’ll take action to “give great HealthCare to many people – FAST,” which ought to worry anyone who’s seen the failed Republican plans Trump also called “great health care.”

Yesterday, Trump also seized on 94-year-old Henry Kissinger as a stringless, boneless marionette to call for wrecking the ACA, mostly because Kissinger was there in the Oval Office and there were cameras on him. After saying he’d be “signing something probably this week” that would take care of “a big percentage” of those who need health insurance, Trump explained we have to blow up Obamacare so Henry Kissinger won’t see his insurance premiums go up:

Now, we’re going to have to do something with Obamacare because it’s failing. Henry Kissinger does not want to pay 116 percent increase in his premiums, but that’s what’s happening.

There’s just one teensy problem there: As an AP fact check takes great pains to explain,

It is super safe to assume that Kissinger […] is not bothered by rising Obamacare premiums. It’s also against the law for an insurer to sell an Obamacare plan to someone who’s covered by Medicare.

Kissinger is worth millions, and is more likely to be tried for war crimes than to be on an Obamacare plan. And he’s in no danger of actually facing trial for war crimes, no matter how much he may deserve it.

For that matter, it’s not even clear whose ass Trump pulled that “116 percent premium increase” out of — the AP notes it’s an atypical rate increase from Arizona, where unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old were estimated to go up that much, but most real people buying insurance on the exchanges would see a much lower increase because they qualify for subsidies. And as we keep pointing out, the Congressional Budget Office determined that one of the greatest drivers of ACA premium increases has been insurers’ uncertainty about whether the federal government will actually meet its own obligations under the ACA. Take away the Trumpfuckery, and the markets would stabilize.

But instead, Trump is determined to wreck the ACA however he can, which is why he’s considering that executive order that would allow individuals and businesses to purchase “association health plans,” broadening a regulatory loophole in the ACA that allows such plans an exemption from the ACA’s requirements that insurance cover essential medical benefits and protect people with preexisting conditions. If lots of people shift to such cheaper junk insurance, the individual markets in Obamacare would likely be thrown into chaos.

We’ll go into the details on THAT bit of Trumpfuckery when the executive action actually comes, but we can say this much already: Henry Goddamned Kissinger won’t have to rely on that crappy insurance, either.

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  • Proud Liberal

    Can I just start the day by saying how much I HATE REPUBLICANS AND ESPECIALLY TRUMP?

  • The Wanderer

    What biggles my mind is why in the name of Christ’s Satin Tap Pants Kissingfool was there to begin with.

    • Elvis Causticfellow

      I assume “biggles” is a typo, but I like it.

      • The Wanderer

        Nope. Not a typo.

        • Elvis Causticfellow
          • Ghenghis McCann

            Unlike Trump.

          • The Wanderer

            Biggles in the South Seas was the last episode I’ve read. I’m looking for Biggles Flies Undone.

          • Ghenghis McCann

            Upfist for the Python reference.

          • The Wanderer

            Thank you!

          • The Wanderer

            There’s also Biggles and the Naughty Things.

    • cmd resistor

      Wasn’t he there the same day those Russian ambassador guys came a few months back? I could be wrong. But I know I have seen photos of him sitting in that same chair not too long ago.

  • Iron Monkey

    Kissinger: Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia–Fuck it just bomb all of them.

  • MynameisBlarney

    http://crooksandliars.com/2017/10/scarborough-time-republicans-look-25th

    Not even 1 year into this monumental clusterfuck of an administration, we’re ALREADY worried about turmps stupid ass starting WWIII.

    • Proud Liberal

      Didn’t we already know it would turn out this way?

      • MynameisBlarney

        Yup, and we tried to warn everyone, but they didn’t listen.

        • Proud Liberal

          It’s like nobody really believed he could ever be elected. I wake up screaming every day.

    • MynameisBlarney

      In a related horror story, “Creeping Fascism”? No, that shit ain’t creeping, it’s strutting like a pimp in plain sight.

      https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/creeping-fascism-this-is-not-a-drill-internet-freaks-out-over-trump-threatening-to-shut-down-nbc/

      • Proud Liberal

        I’ve never been more concerned about the future of this country. We are in deep shit.

        • MynameisBlarney

          I wore my “It’s Not Fascism When We Do It” shirt last week. And got some concerned looks from people.
          Sad that I have to explain it so often.

      • Thurman Munster IV

        David Simon is going to to do a show on HBO about it called Il Douche.

    • arglebargle

      Oh I was worried about that November 10th.

    • Nockular cavity

      At least we didn’t get Warmonger Killary. She would have sent out a drone or two by now.

    • calliecallie

      I know, right? Someone reminded me the other day that a year ago Obama was still president, and I could hardly believe it. This Trumpfuckery feels like it has been going on for years!

  • Mavenmaven

    Probably the only thing Trump wants to learn from Kissinger is how to attack friendly countries and get away with it. Maybe also how to use napalm on civilian populations.

  • Bright Bart

    For that matter, it’s not even clear whose ass Trump pulled that “116 percent premium increase” out of
    Read more at https://wonkette.com/624118/donald-trump-we-must-destroy-obamacare-to-save-henry-kissinger#Jyuo4vmi0ctaPYhA.99

    Same guy selling that health insurance for $12 a year. That’s where O Henry should go for his health insurance.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/20/trump-thinks-young-people-pay-12-for-health-insurance.html

  • Bill D. Burger

    His partner in the Trumpcare mass murder scheme.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL0ipxoWsAE6YHE.jpg

    • The Wanderer

      Looks like a Venn diagram showing the overlap between Stupid and Malevolent.

      • OutOfOrbit

        i thought that blue thing was a wart growing on the side of tRumpster’s head

        • The Wanderer

          It’s like the demonic spirochetes coming out of the guy’s skull at the start of Eraserhead.

      • Bill D. Burger

        And in this case, they’re interchangeable.

    • Proud Liberal

      Rand Paul wants to repeal Obamacare. He’s a Libertarian. He doesn’t believe in the government, even though he’s a part of it.

  • The Wanderer

    Looking at Kissinger’s sagging, decadent flesh, I was reminded of this little ditty:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfHCxIiZ_4M

    • deadjello

      I thought I was pretty “up” on all things Python, but I don’t recognize all these songs showing up lately. Must be more recent work like Spamalot heh?

      • Daniel

        No, it’s off their albums from the late seventies.

  • arglebargle

    94 year old Kissinger? Apparently even Satan wants nothing to do with his rotting carcass.

    • OutOfOrbit

      i hope his last days on Earth are a living hell for him, that he suffers under mother nature’s cruel side of Karma

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Ghenghis McCann

      Allowing for how long Trump spends golfing and tweeting, how much time have you really worked on it?

    • cmd resistor

      Shut up Rand Paul.

    • Shibusa

      “I’ve been working with @realDonaldTrump for months on this. ” As fucking if.

  • Michael Smith

    So do conservatives like Henry Kissinger now? I guess he’s such a relic that most conservatives, being uneducated, probably don’t know anything about him except that he was in the Nixon administration, which is good enough for them.

    They forget that he wasn’t in the Reagan administration, and there was a reason for that. Not that Kissinger was too aggressive, but that he wasn’t aggressive enough. Sure, Henry would bomb the shit out of Southeast Asian countries whose only crime was being near Vietnam. But when it came to the USSR, he was much more cautious, and much more open to dialogue and to sign agreements like the SALT treaties. This came to infuriate hyper patriots like Reagan’s supporters, who saw it as “appeasement,” “just like with Hitler.”

    So, at one point, Kissinger was Hitler to Democrats and Republicans. Maybe his appearance at the White House will bring us back to that bipartisan unity!

    • Nockular cavity

      They admire his private mountain of skulls.

  • WeaselPoo

    Sure 116 percent SOUNDS a lot, but as Trump has previously stated, health insurance is only $12 a month so I’m pretty sure we can all afford to instead pay $27, to keep Henry Kissinger happy (meaning morally bankrupt and gargling gravel as usual).

    • puredog

      Actually, it would be just under $26. MATH IS HARD.

      • WeaselPoo

        You are right…I should have used Kessel Run parsecs for my miscalculation.

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    Kissinger: “Mr Prezident, You are zee Agent Orange of zee virld!”

  • TippingHeadon

    If Trump fucks up insurance markets by executive order he will literally fuck his base in the ass without any cover from Congress.

    Is he that stupid?

    Yes.

    • TJ Barke

      His supporters won’t understand it’s his fault.

      • MynameisBlarney

        They will invariably blame libruls, Hillary and Obama.

        • TJ Barke

          As they are wont to do.

        • cmd resistor

          Because Harvey Weinstein.

          • Proud Liberal

            I wish the fucking media would stop talking about it. There are much more important issues to discuss!

          • cmd resistor

            Indeed. Bad enough the FOX people do, but NO ONE will shut up about it.

      • TippingHeadon

        See, I think they finally might. He’s literally claiming it.

        The Republicans are frustrated. They’re going to call him on his shit soon.

        • TJ Barke
          • TippingHeadon

            I am. Republicans are in it for the long haul

            They know he’s done in three years.

            If that.

          • MynameisBlarney

            3 years is being generous.
            I say he’s out long before then.

          • TippingHeadon

            Read my last two words.

        • onedollarjuana

          Nope. As long as they think he can sign the tax reform robbery legislation, stealing what’s left of the mass’s “wealth”, they’ll keep him around.

          • TippingHeadon

            Ah, but there is now doubt that he can bring tax reform home.

      • Proud Liberal

        Do they know how to tie their shoes?

    • puredog

      And they are stupid enough to applaud it.

    • OutOfOrbit

      he will blame obama and his base will believe it

  • chascates

    At least Kissinger’s actions resulted in masses of people dying quickly.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    “Please Note We Are No Longer Accepting Letters of Recommendation from Henry Kissinger”

  • GunToting[Redacted]

    Is “not having a soul” a pre-existing condition?

  • aktlib101

    Fuck Kissinger
    The real story this morning is the Dolt unleashed (unmedicated?)
    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/trump-threatens-to-revoke-nbcs-broadcasting-license-for-reporting-he-wants-tenfold-increase-in-nukes/
    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/creeping-fascism-this-is-not-a-drill-internet-freaks-out-over-trump-threatening-to-shut-down-nbc/
    He was pissed at NBC for reporting that he wanted a 10fold increase in our nukes (reason why Tillerson called him a “fucking moron”, and for good reason it seems) and now he suggests to revoke NBC license.
    “Creeping fascism”, people are calling it
    The guy has lost all his marbles, this is tragically awesome. Unraveling of the American President. And the entire world is watching us and this shitshow.
    WTF are the Republicans doing?

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Blaming others. It’s all they know.

    • Rocket Pony Ron

      They’re applauding.

  • Jeffocaster in the West

    Dr. Strangelove and Trump sitting in a tree
    Hookers rain down pee pee pee
    First comes Iran
    Then comes Korea
    Let’s bomb them all, GREAT IDEA!

  • Michael Smith

    I was reading a book recently in which the author referred to Kissinger as “the 1970’s most unlikely sex symbol.”

    • Proud Liberal

      I can’t stop laughing enough!

    • The Wanderer

      He briefly attained that status after marrying actress Jill St. John, as I recall.

    • ariel_gee_398

      Wasn’t that Alan Alda?

      • Roadstergal

        Still sexy.

    • laughingnome

      Power is zee greatest aphrodisiac.

    • NastyBossetti

      Gross. The 70s were a very gross time. I would thank you to never bring that quote here again.

    • marxalot

      He hid the secret documents in his underwear.

    • SeeTrain65

      Even in his youth Kissinger didn’t quite fit the bill of a matinee idol, but he’s always been a hit with the ladies. A 1972 poll of Playboy bunnies selected Kissinger as the man with whom Hef’s ladies would most like to go out on a date. He also had a string of celebrity girlfriends in his younger days, including Diane Sawyer, Candice Bergen, Jill St. John, Shirley Maclaine, and Liv Ullman, who called Kissinger, “the most interesting man I have ever met.”

      On the other hand, the only bombing I’ve ever done happens when I ask women out.

      http://mentalfloss.com/article/26022/5-things-you-didnt-know-about-henry-kissinger

      • Michael Smith

        Looks like Kissinger was what the incels call “Chad.”

  • ariel_gee_398

    I think I would be less upset about Trump trying to fuck up the ACA if he had even the slightest clue how it worked.

    • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

      “I think I would be less upset about Trump trying to fuck up ______ if he had even the slightest clue what how it worked.”

      Fill in the blank.

      • VirginiaMorningBlend

        Education, climate change, trade agreements, disaster relief, pollution control, tooth brushing, remedial reading, potty training, personal responsibility, civility, anger management, democracy, dressing for success, parenting, manners, jeez the list goes on forever.

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    OT, probably. Tweety keeps saying “I liked that Trump was against stupid wars”. I can’t find where Trump expressed opposition to wars, stupid or otherwise, except that they cost too much and/or are unprofitable. Such as “we should have kept the oil.” Trump sent many Tweets about how Afghanistan is costing billions of dollars, how China is getting all the mineral rights. He would occasionally mention American military deaths, but never without talking about the money.

    So … Tweety, if you’re reading this, when it comes to Trump and stupid wars: PROVE IT. Because he sure seems to love war.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Well, he sure as shit didn’t love the idea of going to Vietnam.

      • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

        When you’re young and rich, bone spurs strike without discernible symptoms and leave their victims without any aftereffects.

    • Shibusa

      My nutty neighbor in San Diego said he voted for Trump for the same reason–DJT won’t start any wars and Hillary is a warmonger. (This person often utters the words “false flag” so you can guess where he gets his news.)

      • SeeTrain65

        The one thing Republicans do well is start wars.

        Stopping them is another story.

  • Relativicus

    Shouldn’t the insurance companies be against what Trump and the GOP are doing/not doing? Or are they only a paper tiger lobbying group? I mean, if they can’t swing their weight around to keep Trump, et al., from seriously upending their bottom lines, then what power do they really have? And if they’re this weak, why did we need to appease them so mightily in the run-up to the ACA?

    • BosGrl

      They are against it. The only people who are for it are Rs, Fuckface and Co., and very stupid people.

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    OT for extreme stupid.
    Vowing to not remove any monuments from federal lands, Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke defended the Trump administration’s stance about not taking down Confederate statues and said it would upset “native Indians.”

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/zinke-taking-down-confederate-statues-upset-native-indians

    • laughingnome

      Native Indians?

      • Marion in Savannah

        Wouldn’t want to upset everyone in Mumbai.

    • Proud Liberal

      Wait. We live in India?

      • laughingnome

        We annexed them last night.

        • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

          That solves the offshoring problem.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      But why won’t he say the words Native Americans?

      • Marion in Savannah

        Because moran.

        • Ghenghis McCann

          That is a given.

    • NastyBossetti

      Why do people in India have more of a say over our monuments than we do?

      • Ghenghis McCann

        They do a very good job of taking care of all the old monuments that were left behind by the British.

        • Rocket Pony Ron

          Like the the Morris Oxford (aka Hindustan Ambassador.)

    • BearDeLaOursistance

      He probably also too refers to “Colored-Americans”, even though everyone knows the correct term is “Blahs”.

    • SeeTrain65

      Zinke, like many of his party, has a genuine skill at saying the wrong thing and the wrong time.

  • ManchuCandidate

    It’s not an incentive. It’s a damn good reason to keep Ocare.

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    Remember when Republicans called Obama a dictator for using EOs to accomplish what Congress couldn’t legislate? Neither can they.

    • Proud Liberal

      See. It’s okay if they do it. Republicans don’t want to govern. They want to rule.

      • ManchuCandidate

        Every GOPer wants to rule the world…

        Tears for stubborn Wypipo Fears

  • Antonin Dvorak

    Would an EO (if not immediately tied up in court) even do anything? It doesn’t have force of law behind it.

    • Phoenixdoglover

      Shhhh. Don’t tell the Dotard.

    • Johnatx

      I would reckon the purpose of the EO is to sow discord and uncertainty. Even if the courts toss it, the GOP would consider it “mission accomplished”. They want us all to die

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        That’s the sole upside to becoming a Republican: You no longer have to say “With Votes”.

  • laughingnome

    Dotard math is weird.

  • marxalot

    Fuck Kissenger, tuck Frump, and ruck the horse they fode in on.

    • Marion in Savannah

      It’s not the horse’s fault.

      • laughingnome

        Don’t blame the horse blame the ass.

        • Ghenghis McCann

          They’re the two cheeks of the same ass.

  • Scooby

    Is Kissinger 94 with a 116% increase or 116 with a 94% increase? This is too much for Trump to follow.

    • Proud Liberal

      Because. Numbers….

      • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

        No. Liddle’ Babby Donnie loves numbers. I’d say he only loves numbers. Money, crowd size, polls, television rating, beauty ratings, hand size, Electoral College votes … he seldom talks about anything except in terms of numbers. For example, how many FEMA workers are in Puerto Rico, how many people died, but NOT what people are enduring.

  • Here in IL our dept of insurance is also totally trying to kill the ACA (messaging is all about ‘you don’t have to buy on the marketplace’).

    I am too depressed to make any jokes.

  • ariel_gee_398

    I just cannot believe that Americans are dumb enough to think that the cheap ass junk plans Republicans want them to buy are a good idea. I mean, I totally can believe it, because we’re a nation of idiots, but it really depresses me.

    • Ricky Gay

      At this point I think our American herd would find a way to ignore actual Soylent Green. As long as we had something to chew in distraction. :(

  • Bigby

    Yeah, but did the desiccated Fascist fuck bring his Magic Murder Bag™?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaxShzl1aTQ

  • chascates
  • Bitter Scribe

    My health insurance would cost me about $800 a month if I had to pay for every penny of it myself, but subsidies make my out-of-pocket $120. According to Republican logic, if they brought it down to $700 but took away the subsidies, it would be cheaper insurance.

    And pretty soon I would have to stop buying health insurance at all and take my chances, which would be even cheaper, at least until I got cancer or something.

    Attention Republicans: Stop trying to help me.

    • TippingHeadon

      Not even cancer.

      Try one expensive drug.

      One single prescription (not even unusual ones) can be over $1000/month.

      (Obviously the ones that aren’t generic yet.)

      • SeeTrain65

        Or Rheumatoid Arthritis.

        Monthly cost of my biologic without Insurance/Medicaid is about $1,100/week or $4,400/month.

        Rough yearly cost: $52,800 ($4,400×12 months) to $57,200. ($1,100×52 weeks)

        Add in all my other scripts (approximately $400-500/month = $4,800-$6,000/year) and it’s over $63,000 just for medications.

        In my last full year of writing sports, I made about $6,000 for the year. Taxed twice (regular income tax and self-employment tax), as my “employer” considered me an independent contractor.

        The reason I couldn’t get a regular job at a newspaper? The GOP makes it easy for business to decide who is an independent contractor and who’s an actual employee, full or part-time.

        The reason I had to wait before I could be covered by Medicaid? The GOP stalling or simply downright obstructing progress so their constituents, the drug companies, can rake in the profits that eventually end up as their campaign contributions.

        Every aspect of my life has been made harder because of Republican intervention in the things that concern me and millions upon millions of Americans like me, you and many, many others here.

        Right and wrong has no meaning to them. Fairness and justice have no meaning either. They worship power and its compatriot, the almighty dollar. And all the worst people are eager to exploit their autocratic megalomania, avarice and greed.

        (Sorry, did I just go off on a tangent?) ; )

  • calliecallie

    “If Dick Cheney drops by, we can share a nice bowl of kittens.”
    Kittens. Just add milk.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/49c48bb80e5c28ad28cbbdd4dd0aff2ea9c0ce1af3d13d990a307897e795e2fc.jpg

    • TippingHeadon

      No. Don’t! Kitties are actually lactose intolerant!

      • VirginiaMorningBlend

        And you shouldn’t feed bread to ducks. Everything I know and love has gone horribly wrong.

        • Trip Space-Parasite

          Just in case there was doubt: you should also not feed kittens to ducks. (“Eating kittens is just plain wrong! And no one should do it! EVER!”)

    • Bill Diaz

      If you have to prove you are evil, all you have to do is eat a kitten!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD71ip1osM4

      Have a great day!

  • bubbuhh

    Is Kissinger’s wife still having sex? Mebbe! She’s a young 83. But, she isn’t having it Henry. I mean, can you imagine? It would be like volunteering to have sex with Trump or Weinstein!

  • beatbort

    Like a tick, Kissinger’s body is bloated with the life expectancy denied to all the young Southeast Asians whose lives he snuffed out.

  • Viktor

    Trump drags another ancient, irrelevant, and not missed at all politician back into the limelight. How far back in time does he think we have to got to make America great? Will Roger Stone be digging up Nixon’s and Gen Lee’s bones and try to resuscitate them for a Trump rally?

  • Oblios_Cap

    Now, we’re going to have to do something with Obamacare because it’s failing. Henry Kissinger does not want to pay 116 percent increase in his premiums, but that’s what’s happening.

    Fucking Moron says what about old, bloated war criminal?

  • Donna Mueller

    should ANYONE listen to kissinger-5 million Cambodian souls scream NO from the grave.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    I will bet you one dozen (12) donuts that Trump couldn’t explain any part of Obamacare.

    • TimResistit

      Sucker’s bet.

  • Viktor

    This is typical Trump. Ignoring the Generals and listening to war strategy from a loser like Kissinger. Trump probably thinks we won Vietnam like he will in North Korea.

  • Lefty Wright

    The only way I can see Trump’s plan actually happening is if the insurance companies set a fixed dollar reimbursement for each covered event and let the patient find the best deal. But in that case, the patient has no bargaining power and will end up paying more. This is because most insurance companies negotiate rates with each provider. If the provider is outside their rates, you pay more. Since it takes a lot of time and money, these out of state companies will either have an extremely limited list of preferred providers (to save money) or set reimbursement rates like Medicare does, but without the requirement that the providers can charge no more than the Medicare rates. Meaning that $1,100 MRI that your current company negotiated down to $700, and Medicare sets a cap at $600, you may have the copay and the difference between $600 and $1,100.

    • Yeah but people don’t know this or know to ask this.

      My fucking state DOI is TELLING people they don’t need to get a MP plan. They finally came out and admitted they too want the ACA to die. Fuck you bruce rauner.

      (Though we have some pretty active grass roots orgs doing our best to promote and advertise.)

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    Trump Don’t Care is going to be a YOOOOGE disaster.

  • bbayliss

    “…drivers of ACA premium increases has been insurers’ uncertainty about whether the federal government will actually meet its own obligations…”
    Uncertainty is injustice.

  • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith

    The only thing Kissinger should be insured of is the screaming voices of 60,000 American service members, and millions of Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotian in his ear for all eternity.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      And also the screaming of Argentinians and Chileans.

      • ken_kukec

        Also all those poor Harvard students who had to try to decipher what the fuck he was saying during lectures.

  • bbayliss

    trump introduces Eminem for president
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NBwt24PTe0

    • PincheMacha
      • ltmcdies

        I don’t squat about rap or free rap….but this was good.

      • ken_kukec

        LBJ to Trump: when you’ve lost Eminem, you’ve lost middle America.

  • Mike Steele

    Fuck Henry Kissinger, and the Panzer tank he rode in on. Now, when can we bust Trump or Butterscotch for failing to enforce the ACA ‘law of the land’ unless/until they come up with a viable alternative….NOT.

  • Rocket Pony Ron

    Last night I made a longish trip to Stratford (yes, the place with the Shakespeare Festival) for an MRI scan of my bad knee. The local machines are booked up but they have evening appointments in Stratford so I took the extra travel time (about 45 minutes) and had it done there.
    Total cost to me was fuel and $5 for parking.
    Tell me again why there is still argument over single payer in the US?

    • Bebecca

      OMG they made you pay for parking?

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        I guess that’s proof that Canada needs to go back to a market-based health care system.

    • Gussie Jives

      $5 parking?! I wish we had that in downtown Toronto….

      As the result of a chronic condition I’ve had since childhood, I have to get regular MRIs to track the progression of the disease. Regular diagnostic testing (scopes, ultrasounds, MRIs) has kept me healthy enough not only to grow to adulthood, but also to go to university, get a job and contribute to the Canadian economy.

      This is what gets me about the rationalizations that right-wing d-bags have against single-payer: as a function of a healthy workforce, looking at it from a completely utilitarian perspective, it’s simply illogical to let illnesses fester untreated and cost potential productivity. If we are simply to be worker drones whose resources are to be extracted, wouldn’t it be worth it in the long run to spend a little money in the short term to keep the drones working? Are these people really under the impression that there will always be other drones to take their place? Because I guarantee that’s going to be a bigger waste of resources hiring somebody new and training them than it would be just to chip in some extra tax money so the loyal employee can just get their broken arm fixed.

      It’s like the way the current Diaper-Shitter in the Oval Office always thinks people are laughing at America. “They’re laughing at us! By the way, run the education system into the ground, threaten to take away their health coverage and scare them about nuclear conflict… that’s how you make a great happy country! Jy-na won’t be laughing at us then!”

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        Our local major medical center’s parking is $2/hour, so $5 also sounds like a deal.

    • Every year we drive a long way to Stratford too.

      Only it’s for the canada tire.

      (I hope your knee is on the mind)

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        Not yet, but soon. TY!

    • Zyxomma

      RPR, I wish you all the best with your knee. Healing light headed your way.

      My long-ago knee MRI showed three torn ligaments, a really bad bone contusion, and multiple tibial fractures. Thankfully, it was not a surgical case. I did physical therapy as if it were my job, and healed completely.

      I paid out of pocket for everything. Had I needed surgery, I’d have joined the ranks of the bankrupt. I could outline what I spent (and it was as little as possible; the orthopedic surgeon’s PA gave me lists of places to get the MRI and PT, and I comparison shopped). That injury and being jobless for the last few years are why I’m broke enough to get Medicaid today.

      We can’t have single payer because half the citizens of the US are out of their minds, and keep the rest of us from having nice things.

    • doktorzoom

      Well, you see, it’s because, uh, YOU’RE LYING AND YOU ACTUALLY DIED WAITING TWO YEARS FOR TREATMENT AND YOUR DOCTOR MOVED TO THE USA, USA, USA! TO GET A DECENT INCOME.

      • H0mer0

        doctor here in US not getting a decent income but carry on.

    • Vavoline Marie Johnson

      To be honest, and modest, it was really my thoughts and prayers that healed your bad knee. Unfortunately, the Lord insists you pay your own parking and gas.

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        Thanks awfully, and don’t worry about it. God is a notorious cheapskate.

  • Bebecca

    Why was Kissinger there in the first place?

    • Darrell Imaginarian

      The mind boggles.

    • BearDeLaOursistance

      “Why was Kissinger anywhere in the first place? Is Satan fucking with me again?” — Goddess

  • ken_kukec

    “[Kissinger]’s in no danger of actually facing trial for war crimes”

    Unless he travels outside the US, in which case some justice-loving foreigners might drag his superannuated ass to the Hague for his just deserts.

  • BearDeLaOursistance

    Billy Joel was right: Only the good die young.

    • SeeTrain65

      I repeat again …

      “The good die young, and pricks live forever.” – Lewis Black

  • Alienist

    Remember back when dairy prices were going up and ice cream manufacturers were worried that the cost of a half gallon of ice cream would be cause sticker shock to their customers? What did they do? They kept the price per container the same (or reduced it a little) and made the carton smaller. It looked the same from the side in the shelves, but were not as deep. This is the same game the republicans are playing with insurance. It appears to be insurance. It is called “insurance.” But when you really need it, it isn’t really insurance.

    • Odd Jørgensen

      same shit they do with cereals, the boxes look about the same size, as long as you look at them from the right angle.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    The worst part about that 116% increase story in AZ? The only reason it happened (other than GOP fuckery, thanks little Marco!), was because our rates were really low- it was a one time adjustment. The year the ACA went into affect, my premiums plunged 60% from our old group policy. And they stayed low until 2015 when they jumped some, then again in 2016 when the risk corridor fuckery kicked in just in time for the election and rates doubled. However, that just meant that my premium is back to about what I was paying five years ago before the ACA, despite five years of inflation and me being five years older and more expensive to insure (and it’s just as good, if not better, policywise). In the meantime, thanks to the ACA I was able to stick more than ten thousand dollars extra in my IRA that would have been paid out to insurance companies. Simple math says I came out way ahead. The people who can’t figure this out and are instead outraged by the propaganda are idjits and the reason we can’t have nice things.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    hey! Remember when Hillary was the debbil because she went to a couple cocktail parties with Kissinger and that made her the worstest warhawk ever?

    Good times! And thanks again Bros™, we really dodged a bullet. Thankfully we ended up with the guy actively taking advice on the DPRK from the geriatric war crimer and now demanding we double our nuclear arsenal, instead. I feel so much safer!

  • whitroth

    Henry Fucking Kissinger should be in jail, and then they brick up the front of the cell, and let him fucking *die* in jail.

    As in the declassified documents from the Nixon era, when, in ’71? ’72? he told Nixon that if he ended the War, that he wouldn’t get re-elected…..

    THREE-QUARTERS OF THE DEATHS ON THE WALL, AND IN ‘NAM, AND SOUTHEAST ASIA, ARE SO FUCKING NIXON COULD GET ELECTED AND RE-ELECTED.

    • Oh that is ok. Nixon also talked the south vietnamese into not going to the peace talks so he could get elected in the first place.

    • Zyxomma

      Dr. Henry Ratfucking Kissinger should be buried alive beneath the fucking jail, and forced to give back his Nobel Peace Prize (1973) AND give all the money, with interest, to the survivors of all those on the Wall for which he was responsible.

  • Shelli Kae

    I would say we have some fucked up loopholes if one man can sign an Executive Order and cause hundreds of thousands of people to lose their insurance or be forced to buy inadequate coverage. How in the fuck can one man be the cause of suffering for so many people and get away with it? You would think something like this would cause people to move quickly to get this animal away from the Oval Office. Trump is one sick mother fucker, I’m telling you. He has no soul and no remorse that people will die because he is such a pathetic person he wants to wipe out anything and everything with President Obama’s name on it. I hope Karma catches up with that little bitch Trump and the whole world gets to watch his downfall.

  • Molon Labe

    Kissinger is a world class slime ball. Fucking revolting.

  • Teto85

    Fuck you, donnie. That’s all I can muster, I am so fucking tired of this asshole and this week with the Northern CA fires (Wonkette owner might want to re-think her trip, or at least her accommodations) that’s all I can do, fuck you, donnie, fuck you.

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