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We have found it, the stupidest thing in the universe! It’s an FBI report that says that “black identity extremists” are making people hate cops.

I have married two Marines, one of whom served in Fallujah, so I am well aware of what it means to face a hostile population. Only in the instance of domestic law enforcement, I am the hostile population.

I don’t dislike police in St. Louis because black people told me to. I dislike them because they have a habit of fucking tear gassing me every time I see them.

film the police

Police in America have more body armor than the Marines gave my husband. That’s not even a joke – during the height of the Iraq war there wasn’t enough armor to go around and we had to buy flak vests for our Marines and ship them overseas. But these motherfuckers back home? Yeah, they’ve got LRADs and APCs and Bearcats and more than enough Kevlar to protect them.

Oh, and at least in St Louis, they might be carrying illegal AKs. They might shoot you with them, and then they will be found not guilty of murder – and that’s in the rare instances they’re charged. Then if you complain about it, they hit you with chemical weapons while screaming SUBMIT!!! at you like that’s not the most disgustingly on-the-nose thing they could think of.

Middle of the damn day in St. Louis. NBD, this isn’t intimidating and stupid, right?

This is a gang of thugs who will march through the town chanting “whose streets? Our streets” because that’s what protesters chanted in Ferguson. These are tiny little men with no more honor than fucking Steve Bannon, trying desperately to preserve their machismo so nobody notices how fucking weak you have to be to need riot shields to face down a few journalists. These are racist scumbags who will tell white protesters that they’re race traitors, idiots in armor who can’t figure out that their job is de-escalation, out-of-control megalomaniacs who can’t handle the idea of a world in which they are not petty tyrants. (And some, I assume, are good people.)

Try to tell me black people made me a radical, get right the fuck out of here. Black people are trying to not die. Black people are not reaching out to white people trying to get us to kill cops. It’s the cops themselves that made me a radical, watching them abuse their power and shit on the Constitution in defense of a few panes of plate glass as though glass was irreplaceable and human life was renewable. It’s the most batshit insane thing I’ve ever seen in my life, and I used to work in a porn store that had a theater in it.

“radical” St. Louis black people.

Here’s a comparison for you: from black protesters in St Louis, you frequently hear Assata’s Prayer:

“It is our duty to fight for our freedom. It is our duty to win. We must love and support each other. We have nothing to lose but our chains.”

From cops, you hear the following:

“This is an unlawful assembly. You must disperse immediately. If you do not disperse you will be subject to arrest or chemical agents.”

You fucking tell me who the goddamned radicals are when the “assembly” is fifty black people chanting Assata’s Prayer on a public street corner.

If you want me to feel like the police aren’t my enemy STOP SENDING THEM TO GAS ME FOR DOING MY FUCKING JOB AS A JOURNALIST.

If you don’t want people to get het up about how many black people you’ve killed, STOP KILLING BLACK PEOPLE.

[FP/NYT/Riverfront/WaPo]

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  • Eileen Besse

    OMG. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!!!!!!!!

  • Spurning Beer

    I haven’t heard the term “peace officer” used much in a long time. Wonder why.

    • ariel_gee_398

      Because cops mostly train for “tactical situations” not “peace”.

      • Ulricii

        They dress up and lumber around prepared for “tactical situations.” I doubt there’s much training involved, or if there is they all seem to have flunked the course. They “train” like we 6 year old’s did when we played cowboys and Indians. Grab a rifle or a bow and arrow and head out the door with a whoop!

        • ariel_gee_398

          I mean of the training they are required to complete to get certified as a police officer, somewhere around 70-80% is tactical training, and the rest is everything from driving to gun safety to the Constitution.

          • Khavrinen

            Thinking maybe they could work on that “Constitution” thing just a tad more…

  • Fun with Cthulhu

    Beautiful. Permission to share to the entire fucking world?

    • KillerMartinis

      With fucking gusto.

      • Eileen Besse

        THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    So Americans can have black identity, just don’t be extreme about it? Why don’t we call skinheads white identity extremists?

    • Khavrinen

      Too on the nose?

    • Kastle

      WIE don’t we, indeed.

  • MamaBrown

    Thank you for this. It is epic.

  • Daniel

    I find it very interesting that authoritarians assume you can only think something because someone has told you to.

    • Teecha

      It is isn’t it?

      Like the ones who think if you’re not religious, you can’t have morals.

      Or if you don’t have kids, you can’t care about the future.

      Thick as fucking pigshit, the lot of them.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        Ramen.

    • Khavrinen

      It almost makes you conclude they can only think something because someone told them to.

      • TJ Barke

        You may be on to something. George Soros told me to think that…

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      Example: the mayor of San Juan getting coached by Democrats to be nasty to Dumpy.

  • Royal Ugly Globalist Dude

    “black identity extremists” are defined as anyone with a skin tone darker than the foam on a pumpkin spice latte.

    • redarmyzombie

      And even then, I’m pretty sure that definition is being generous…

  • ariel_gee_398
    • KillerMartinis

      Rossamano’s a fuckbag.

      • ariel_gee_398

        St. Louis would really have to work if they wanted to say “we don’t really give a shit” any clearer than having him in that position.

    • Bad Scooter

      what’s that old adage? … “when all you have is an assault rifle, every protester is a target.” or something.

      • ariel_gee_398

        Yeah, this is like putting Cruella DeVille in charge of the anti-animal cruelty enforcement unit.

  • SadDemInTex

    ^^^^^THIS^^^^^

  • Teecha

    I live in an actual police state. Where there is no democracy, right to free speech or assembly. Where workers can be deported for striking.

    The police here don’t behave like yours do.

    In the uk, you only see a copper with a gun in extreme circumstances- not ordinary gavvers. They just get a baton and cuffs. Maybe CS gas.

    • Ling Ling

      I have been given CS in training and I didn’t like it. I also was tased in training and that was a bad day. Still, I would rather tase someone than shoot them.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Walking through London today, the only armed police officers I saw were standing outside of 10 Downing Street.

      • Teecha

        I only ever seen them at the border control. But I’ve not been to downing st in decades.

  • The Librarian

    This reminds me of the recent Vietnam series which showed how the war protesters were treated. The sight of cops clapping their clubs in their hands, then the bashing began. Really fucking brutal.

    Today, we have police armed to the teeth with much more than clubs and the protesters are treated even worse. This is what a police state looks like and it’s scary as hell.

  • BoatOfVelociraptors

    Required reading:
    https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/08/book_review_ris.html
    Rise of the warrior cop., in which police are trained to see the populace as a military threat, and escalate situations as if they were behind enemy lines.

    • Wonky Magoo

      It’s that motherfucking “sheepdog” bullshit again, isn’t it?

      • BoatOfVelociraptors

        Teaching cops that they must escalate first before they get shot. A nice fear/machismo combination.

        • redarmyzombie

          Also, a self-fulfilling prophecy…

      • shivaskeeper

        That sheepdog bullshit is a quote taken out of context and then abbreviated and bastardized on top of that. Much like, “an armed society is a polite society” is taken out of context.

    • SisterArtemis
  • Gosala

    Magnificent.

  • BoatOfVelociraptors

    In fact, St. Louis has a perticular problem with the warrior mindset, as detailed here:
    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-police-sergeant-who-runs-military-style-training-business/article_7b99af78-70b4-5ff4-8d8c-2714a2d88aa6.html

    The populace is to be subjugated, not protected.

  • Khavrinen

    “If you don’t want people to get het up about how many black people you’ve killed, STOP KILLING BLACK PEOPLE.”

    Clearly, that’s just crazy talk.

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      And she calls herself a journalist.

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        When not coughing her guts out from the tear gas.

  • OrG

    I hated cops before I was even aware of my white privilege. After I sussed out they treated people of color EVEN WORSE than me I hated them even more.

    • Blackest Noobs

      there’s no real vetting when it comes to cops…it’s like hey were you the asshole jock in high school who wasn’t good enough to get a scholarship for a college…well why don’t you become a cop…you can be a dick to everyone but ESPECIALLY black people.

  • BloviateMe
    • House0fTheBlueLights

      I laughed. I’m not proud of that.

      • Khavrinen

        That’s what they call “black humor”.
        No, the other kind of black.

      • The Wanderer

        I didn’t laugh. I felt ashamed.

        • Zombishroom

          Laughter might be the only weapon we have left. Use it. Mock those motherfuckers back under the rocks from which they crawled.

        • House0fTheBlueLights

          Yes, that too.

    • Shanzgood
    • Zombishroom

      Again. Laughter might be the only weapon we have left. Use it. Mock those motherfuckers back under the rocks from which they crawled.

  • ariel_gee_398

    Coincidentally, this came out the same week video of a controversial shooting of a black man by cops came out – this time he was shot in the back as he fled. And by coincidentally, I mean of course it fucking did because no matter the week, there is at least one story of a person of color being shot and killed by police under circumstances that would be considered at least suspicious if not criminal if the victim was white.

  • BloviateMe
    • Seek

      Which is why I laugh when people say there are good cops. No, actually there aren’t. Fuck those guys (and gals too)

  • TJ Barke

    I hate cops because they’re servants of capital.

    • The Wanderer

      I learned good anarcho-syndicalist precepts at the agency-sponsored Certified Public Manager course.

  • The Wanderer

    I teach at the local law enforcement academy. I routinely tell the students that the best weapon they have is between their ears – meaning that they should think and talk their way through a confrontation before resorting to the tools (chemicals, Taser, baton, pistol). I also tell them that the people they encounter on the street and in the jail are human beings, Americans, and voting taxpayers – just like them.
    I also routinely threaten the ones who act too gung-ho with having them crank out a 500-essay an why the militarization of the police is a Bad Thing.
    I like to think that I’m helping.

    • TJ Barke

      PC POLICE!

      • Daniel

        In the UK that’d be tautological.

        • Shanzgood

          Only if they’re men.

    • Khavrinen

      Maybe instead of “The Wanderer” you should consider “Sisyphus”?

      • The Wanderer

        Hmm. Nope, because I couldn’t resist pronouncing it “Thithyphuth.”

        • Carpe Vagenda

          Sisyphus Shrugged was a great blog name.

        • bupkus231

          “Resist”??? I can’t manage anything else!

        • Cat Angel

          You mean like Thilath the Thyrian Athathin?
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMtoGj0dcSo

    • Ling Ling

      You have an important job, but your voice most likely drowned out by all the Eric Cartmans of the world.

    • Zombishroom

      Keep educating. You’re making the world a better place.

    • Courser_Resistance

      Thank you. I have a good friend who recently went through LE training with the CO State Police. To be a volunteer cop. He’s a good guy and it hurts me to hear this stuff. But it needs to be said because some cops are obviously NOT like my friend.

      • Seek

        Having become acquainted with a number of LE dudes through no fault of my own – In-Laws – he’ll have all of that nice guy good cop nonsense knocked out of him in no time or he will be a non-volunteer in short order. I had to open my yap about an “incident” that involved one of their brother officers and a nice hispanic lady getting curb stomped in a suburban neighborhood. “Oh well it wasn’t his fault, it’ll all come out later about how it was all her fault.” And yet, she still got a bunch of money for police brutality, so I mocked a bit about that at the next gathering and I’m lucky not to have been struck dead – if looks could kill… Hate them one and all.

    • Canned Covfefe

      You are

    • Rocket Pony Ron

      Be careful. The more literal-minded ones might start attacking people with their heads.

  • VirginiaMorningBlend

    Back in the day we had a guy in high school who only ever wanted to be a cop. Because power. He had an old sedan with 4 or more antennas on it and listened to all the good stuff on his police scanner. He often showed up at crime scenes if it was someone he knew.
    When he got angry because he had no authority in school, he went outside and punched a school bus. I don’t even remember this guy’s name. But he was a real police officer for a time there. Today the forces still hire these losers. And now they use steroids and have better guns. Progress?

    • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

      In my home town the biggest juvenile delinquents ended up on the police force.

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        So they now know the system from both sides.

    • bupkus231

      In the last two weeks, there have been reports of three different guys in our Central Florida TV viewing area arrested for impersonating police officers.

      One was a teenager ( who was living with a cousin who was a cop ), but the other two were apparently just your garden-variety wannabes – who went a little further than is legal in indulging their fantasies….

      I have to admit that I do not know any police officers, at any level of law enforcement – but, even if it affects my credibility in commenting, I’m okay with that. From all I’ve read ( and not just TV shows glorifying ’em ), fuck the police.

      • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith

        Was one George Zimmerman?

  • Shanzgood

    OT: Oh, crap! I just panic-stomped a bee to death! I feel terrible!

    In my defense, I grew up with a mom who freaked out over all flying such things because she goes into anaphylactic shock when she’s stung. Apparently, it’s hard to overcome that kind of conditioning.

    • Ghoti

      Perhaps not so OT after all.

      • Shanzgood

        Maybe not. She raised me to about as wary of cops as well.

        • I am wary of nearly all authority figures. The exception seems to be fire fighters, at least for me

          • Shanzgood

            Yeah, what’s up with that? Is it the calendars? Because there’s a fire station just down the street from my house and every time I drive past I can’t help gawking. As if I’m gonna get an eyeful of https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/da0ee1e7cadce03329f5fe371a8458fb5684b81f36bedc4a9ac0f35e37810cec.jpg

          • redarmyzombie

            Look, given the choice between a man with a gun and a hot sweaty muscular man fondling a hose, I know my pick!

          • Shanzgood

            Having learned a few things recently, I’m not sure I’d fancy my chances…

          • My office is immediately next to a fire station, and my apt is less than 2 blocks from another one

          • Shanzgood

            LUCKY

          • Anna Elizabeth

            Last month on Payday, I walked to Target to do Shoe shopping, and the Firefighters were setting up for the MDA charity. A hunky 25-ish Firefighter was checking me out coming-and-going – big smile from him – and here I was in flats. xD

            But, what with Dad having been a cop and a volunteer firefighter, those are no-go for me wanting to date.

          • Rocket Pony Ron

            Fire fighters aren’t exactly authority figures. They’re public servants, doing a dangerous job that 100% of the time is for everyone’s benefit. KInda like cops SHOULD be.

    • My sister gets anaphlaxsis from shrimp. Panic stomping an already dead shrimp could lead to some quality comedy

      • Shanzgood

        I’m not sure how I managed to get it while it was still flying. It’s all an adrenaline blur now.

        • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

          When we were kids a friend of mine could catch a honeybee in his hand without being stung. You could hear it buzzing in there, then he would open his hand and it would fly away unharmed. That is so cool, I thought. I wonder if I can do it. Caught a bee, immediately got nailed.

          • Rocket Pony Ron

            ‘Call me when your friend gets back.’

        • Ill-Advised

          I have a “shriek, stamp, scream, and scramble” routine that kicks off automatically in the vicinity of yellow jackets. I can never remember anything afterwards. It came after getting stung while taking a nap. So much for “they won’t bother you if you don’t get excited.”

      • Zombishroom

        Or porn

        • Shanzgood

          That escalated quickly.

          • Zombishroom

            Unfortunately that’s where it always goes.

    • My sister gets anaphlaxsis from shrimp. Panic stomping an already dead shrimp could lead to some quality comedy.

      ETA: diqus is making me angry today

      • theCryptofishist

        Panic stomp disqus!

    • BloviateMe
      • Shanzgood

        This one was a honeybee! *sniffle*

      • deadjello

        I can testify as to the dangerous cunt with wings critters. Last week while cutting down giant reed grass I apparently disturbed a nest and yikes all mighty. Got stung significant times (they can sting more than once) and the little bastards chased me all the way back to the house–and a few even followed me inside. The swelling on my face and hands is almost gone and the feeling in my hands is now coming back.

        • Bad Scooter

          ouch.

      • Red Richmond

        I am saving that. We get those little flying fuckers around here a lot and they suuuuck. Mass extermination is a perfectly acceptable if not sufficiently extreme solution.

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        I like bees. Bees are useful. Bees will generally leave you alone unless you look tasty. (My preference for brightly-coloured shirts gets me a LOT of bee attention.) Wasps, OTOH, will not only sting you out of sheer meanness, they kill bees. I have been conducting war on wasps for many, many years now; I’ve racked up quite a few scores with my cork-soled sandals.
        You’re welcome, bees.

        • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

          Agreed, when I lived on Vancouver Island my neighbor kept bees and I learned how to calm them with a smoker. I loved using the centrifuge to make honey. I still have a block of beeswax he gave me for helping. it still smells heavenly.

      • Ill-Advised

        I would upvote, but that would mean putting a finger near the last line item, which would be difficult because I’m already in the next room.

    • theCryptofishist

      Fuck that, I’m allergic, and I carry an epipen, and I don’t freak, because that only gets them angry and sabbier.

      • Seek

        I’m allergic and don’t have a pen. I haven’t been stung in 30 years because I’ve given up being perturbed by bees. Shanz is right it’s hard to overcome your early training and my dad was a total “meh, so what it’s a bug” and allowed no freaking out at bees. We moved out of the house with the clover filled lawn and I stopped stepping on bees and that was the end of my problems with bees

    • Zombishroom

      If you’re a GenX, there’s a book by Douglas Coupland that takes place after the bees are all gone. I’m a GenX so it spoke to me. He’s Canadian from Vancouver BC.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Don’t worry about it. Russell Brand raises bees and has 60,000. He’s got you covered.

    • dshwa
    • therblig

      given the topic of this thread, just plant a knife on it and you’ll be fine. self-defense.

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        <snerks loudly>

    • TJ Barke

      Civilian models probably only available in stun, also.

      • Swampgas_Man

        Unfortunately, cops grew up watching TOS, think tasers are just “stun guns”, abuse them incredibly.

    • Jennifer R

      Nobody buys anything in the federation because the federation proper is post scarcity.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        except for the Ferengis apparently, who continue to do business across the Federation using gold pressed latinum as currency.

        • Jennifer R

          The Ferengi Alliance isn’t a part of the Federation, they merely have friendly relations with the Federation.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            true, but they do business throughout the Federation, with many species who are part of the Federation using latinum as a currency. The whole ‘post scarcity’ meme also kind of falls apart when you look at how many episodes involve bartering for some exotic medicine or dilithium crystals.

          • Swampgas_Man

            Actually, gold-pressed latinum is just a way of getting around the Credits system, which can be traced. Gold-pressed latinum is untraceable, supposedly. In some systems, merely possessing latinum is evidence of intent to commit a crime.*

            *may not be canon, but it sounds good to me.

          • Jennifer R

            I mean, the only things they can’t replicate because *reasons* is latnium. Everything else is either respecting other cultures and their love of money and copyrights (also slavery, both the ferengi and the breen are slavers), or not having an example to pattern off of. Aside from that the major limiting factors in the universe are manpower and physically moving stuff around.

        • crisptickle

          Fuck DS9 and everything that came after.

  • RMKH

    We have good cops in our little town. But I still love this song
    https://youtu.be/OeQ1yGmShdg

    • OrG

      Originally by Dicks.

      • RMKH

        Right, but I like the Mudhoney version better. But that’s just me.

      • Zombishroom

        I hope there’s an Accused song appropriate.

  • Zombishroom

    Thank you killermatinis for the NWA. Fuck the police.

  • RobKanC

    I was looking at disqus and ran into this link, https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-newsviews/fox_news_las_vegas_gunman_may_have_targeted_christians/. And apparently if you like country music, you are a good Christian. Apparently inbreeding is now a Christian quality. Oh how low have we sunk!!

    • CaliCheeseSucks

      News Views is a shitty channel.

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      That’s not how I read it, although there was an assumption that people who were attending the festival were “God-loving country music fans.” I sometimes enjoy country music and I’m neither Christian nor inbred. So maybe you might reconsider your statement?

      • Shanzgood

        I don’t think that was Rob’s statement so much as what the Fox bobbleheads were implying as the reason the shooter chose that particular group as a target. Having read the linked comment, I’m not sure where the “inbred” part factors in, though.

        • RobKanC

          I was taking the argument to its absurd end and throwing a country music joke in there. I also enjoy country music and if the achrisitans want to hijack it, they can kiss my shiny metal ass.

          • Shanzgood

            I kinda figured there might be some snark involved.

          • RobKanC

            Of course, this is wonkette. There is always snark involved 😁

          • commatoes

            And encouraged.

  • PubOption

    I work in the chemical industry in St. Louis. Some years ago I went to a meeting about chemical storage and notification. The speaker was a cop. Unfortunately he abused the open bar, and most of his talk became a rant about how they had dealt with anarchist/hippy protesters. We didn’t learn much about the legalities of chemical storage, but learned a lot about the police.

    • Zombishroom

      ANTIFA!!!!

      • Edith Prickly

        Does anybody who isn’t a wingnut use that term? Semi-serious question. Sometimes they steal names and sometimes they just make them up.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      I thought the legal way to dispose of toxic substances in the St Louis area was to dump them in the West Lake Landfill

  • Villago Delenda Est

    The Police in this country have earned the disdain of millions. They are undermining their own authority with their actions.

    • Seek

      Very politely stated and completely correct

    • Zombishroom

      Officer Friendly has been sacked. Let me introduce you to officer StopNFrisk.

      • Iron Monkey

        And his partner, Office BeatToaPulp.

  • Robyn Ryan

    Police are not your friend. We had a drunk shooting at our boat. 12 rounds. We fired back once.
    Guess who’s in trouble?

  • Celtic_Gnome

    I’m so tired of hearing how we have to respect the cops because their jobs are so dangerous, and it’s just a few bad apples. Any big-city cop who has been on the job an appreciable length of time has seen another cop commit a crime and has either looked the other way or actively helped cover up that crime. Either way, those actions are, themselves, crimes. There are far more criminals in blue uniforms than there are criminals with black skin.

    • Bad Scooter

      i think we can respect cops for the dangerous situations they face while on duty – and acknowledge that most of them leave the house every day with the intent to protect and serve – while simultaneously voicing our opposition to militarized law enforcement, racial profiling, corruption, misuse of power, and training programs that don’t adequately prepare cops to interact with the community or teach them strategies to calculate when a situation might be better handled without escalating to a show of / use of force.

      • eastcoastlib

        I know that’s the fairy tale we’ve been told but I quit believing in fairy tales a long time ago. Most cops don’t wake up every day with the intent to protect and serve us. Their goal is to protect and serve the police and the powerful. We are seen by most as the enemy. The will shoot us, arrest us and abuse us at will and have for nearly two hundred years.

    • Rocket Pony Ron

      I drove cab for a while, some years back. It was after I moved on that I read that cab driving is statistically far more dangerous than being a cop. And we didn’t get body armour or guns.

      • commatoes

        Convenience store clerk is statistically more dangerous, as is being a lumberjack. Policing doesn’t even crack the top ten.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Don’t want to be hated? Don’t be evil.* It’s really pretty simple.

    * offer void where populace is hopelessly brainwashed by Faux hate-mongers

    • Zombishroom

      The golden rule, really. Don’t be a dick. We need more pillows with it crocheted on it.

  • Jennifer R
    • DainBramage

      JHC! He wants to get a bunch of people killed.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        Hey, you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few million eggs.

        • SeeTrain65

          Hey, you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few hundred million eggs.

          Fixed.

    • Zombishroom

      He’s gonna get us all killed dead-like. We’s doomed.

    • BJW

      Pretty clever, taking Trump’s tweets and “releasing them” as official statements…which they really are anyway.

    • commatoes

      Blacktracking… Imagine if Obama had said this.

      Can we just admit that Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho is now president?

      • Zyxomma

        Camacho at least TRIED to find smart people to help.

  • Shanzgood

    Having grown up with hippie, protesting, labor-agitator, weed-smoking parents, I already had a deep mistrust of cops. Since I got older and learned about the civil rights movement, none of this “black identity extremists” bullshit is anything but bullshit. It’s WHITE identity extremists who have always been the problem, long before the attack dogs and fire hoses during the marches.

    It’s not extreme to protest being enslaved or discriminated against. It IS extreme to react to those protests with military weapons.

    • Gosala

      “The police are not here to create disorder. The police are here to preserve disorder. ”

      — Richard J. Daley

      • Zyxomma

        Don’t tell me, let me guess … quoted in 1968? During the convention??

        • Gosala

          Correct. In response roo the charge that the Chicago were responsible for the violence in the streets. Turns out, they were.

    • commatoes

      The police are a force to preserve the hegemony of the state and policy is dictated from above. Take the Giuliani era of New York City and the tough on crime policies of the 1980’s and forward. The only reason why prison/sentencing reform is even discussed (along with the stupid idea of private prisons) is the fact the policies have a financial cost. The cost to the people incarcerated for minor offenses does not even register. The racial component means that a college swimmer and a drunk, rich teen driver get such light sentences. It is because they matter. Whereas a black passenger in a car with a legal handgun and a CWP does not matter.

      There has to be a political cost to racists public policy for anything to change. I just hope for a rapid shift like the change in attitudes about LGTBQ+.

      • Edith Prickly

        I hope we’re getting close to that shift. I remember the resurgence of white supremacy in the 1980s, I remember the Rodney King riots, and I’m disgusted that we’re still stuck there.

  • canes_pugnaces
    • willi0000000

      plague-carrying rat libel!

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    OT Lisa Bloom just resigned from representing Weinstein

    https://twitter.com/LisaBloom/statuses/916710877809737728

    • Zombishroom

      Damn liberals!

    • puredog

      Well, that’ll make her mama happy!

  • Zombishroom

    Not sure if this is OT but it’s sick and hilarious.
    https://youtu.be/VfCYZ3pks48

    • cheetojeebus

      The OTHER Arthur Chase *chuckle*

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    Completely indefensible. He is so fucking disgusting. I never really knew what hatred was until now:

    https://shareblue.com/trump-uses-las-vegas-mass-shooting-to-fundraise-for-his-campaign/

    • Swampgas_Man

      ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

      • Alan

        He can still shock you?

        • commatoes

          I ask myself that every few days… unironically.

    • Zyxomma

      What’s the descriptor for beyond disgusted?

      • commatoes

        Abhorrent and anathema come to mind.

        Sorry, I am momentarily channeling my inner “V” because I always envied his vocabulary. And the current political climate makes it relevant.

        • Zyxomma

          Abhorrent and anathema are great, and I’ve used abhorrent to describe him frequently. When one is attempting not to rage stroke, vocabulary sometimes deserts.

    • RMKH

      Slime

    • SeeTrain65

      “I’m just here for the money.”

    • Querolous
  • memzilla Ω
    • Doug Langley

      Yep, talking to N Korea for 25 years, and . . . no war so far?

      • Iron Monkey

        Let’s give it another 25 years.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      It seems more and more obvious to me that he is TRYING to goad Kim Jong-Un into some sort of an attack, so he has a pretext for war – likely, nuclear war. This worthless piece of shit is going to be responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people before he is finished.

      • Daniel

        Technically the term for what Trump’s trying to do is casus bellend.

      • commatoes

        Maybe he watched Wag the Dog and thought it was a documentary.

      • Sunhead

        Well, the best way to be able to suspend elections in the USA would be to get it nuked. Somewhere nice like liberal California, or useless like Alaska would do the job.
        Martial Law.
        Elections suspended.
        Lord Dampnut, Emperor of North America.

  • Zombishroom

    Sorry if this is OT but I don’t think it is.
    Watch “Wonder Showzen – White People” on YouTube
    https://youtu.be/UiyLtMPuWRA

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • Daniel

      Critics of BLM insist on adding “only” to the start of the movement’s name, rather than “too” at the end.

      • Zombishroom

        They are really assholes and dumbasses who ain’t getting it. I’m still trying to get through to them, though. Would like tips on breaking through that barrier if anyone has suggestions.

    • Gosala

      Even progressive liberal types have trouble with this. Here’s Mark Morrison Reed explaining it to Unitarians.

      https://vimeo.com/214295186

  • Jonny On Maui

    Not enough ups for this.

  • therblig

    still waiting to see what happens to the 4 jersey city cops who chased and fired at a moving car, then kicked an innocent guy who was ON FIRE after the crash. sad thing is, one of the cops was supposedly a really nice guy until he got on the force – people say he changed.

    in the meantime, a SEVENTH cop has admitted to her part in a scam in which they collected millions in phony off duty pay.

    don’t know how they’re screening them or how they’re training them, but it’s looking like it’s not to be jersey city’s “finest”.

    • commatoes

      one of the cops was supposedly a really nice guy until he got on the force – people say he changed

      This has been studied, e.g. the Stanford Prison Experiment of 1971. It, the outcome, and the reasons why it should NEVER be repeated, are included in every first year psych text.

  • Ezio

    Considering the government did everything in it’s power to dismantle the Black Panthers in the 70’s (despite the fact they they never indiscriminately attacked individual white people and only wanted to police black neighborhoods from abusive cops) while the Klan was left untouched, this really doesn’t surprise me.

    • Zombishroom

      I didn’t intend to put on pants but I guess I’ll put on my angry pants.

    • Iron Monkey

      They were dangerous radicals serving breakfast to poor children in Oakland.

      • leemoder

        Dammit, man, every time I see your avatar I wanna watch the movie!

    • commatoes

      They were also in reason for the CA assault weapons legislation signed by “Saint Ronald Reagan” in 1967.

  • Panika MCD

    OT – learning about flood plains

    the maps for flood plains are created by FEMA with input from local entities, state agencies, NWS and the USGS. they represent probabilities and not actual “this will happen once in X years”.

    probabilities for flooding in a 30 year period at the line of these flood plains:

    50 year: you will flood at least once
    100 year: you have a little more than a 1 in 4 chance of flooding
    250 year: 10% chance still means you should get flood insurance
    500 year: 1-5% chance, go uninsured at your own risk

    and TX does not have FEMA maps for the entire state let alone up to date ones.

    • Zombishroom

      Are they being updated to account for climate change or does that not exist?

      • Panika MCD

        they need dedicated funding to update them. I’m guessing that’s a problem because of people who don’t want to acknowledge climate change, but some people think they should update them anyway because new developments change the flow of water so: duh, Congress needs to get their butts in gear.

    • commatoes

      Maybe the demigods that drafted the constitution should have included FEMA.

      Yeah, I’m looking at you Federalist Society!!!

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Our not flood map is: there is about a 20 percent chance that northern Oregon—a region that includes Portland and Astoria—will be hit by a magnitude-8.0-or-higher quake in the next 50 years.

  • Ezio
  • Ezio

    And one more thing.

    The Black nationalist or separatist groups that white folks are always so upset about wouldn’t exist without white supremacist groups being there first. Even if you don’t agree with the views of the Nation of Islam, for example, you have to understand where those feelings came from. It’s a hate that hate produced.

  • Scooby

    My friend is a cop in Germany and he went through 4 years of training. I think US cops don’t even get 4 months.

    • KillerMartinis

      Standard POST is either six months or a year depending on the state regulations in most places.

      • commatoes

        I the req’s are even more lax for Sheriff’s deputies.

    • eastcoastlib

      This idea that training is the problem is itself part of the problem. It’s not the training it’s the culture. For example, if your friend in Germany were to shoot an unarmed person for no good reason, there would likely be real consequences. Here there are none. Well other than calls for more training.

      • Scooby

        He told me tan over a year of that training was non-violent conflict resolution.

        • eastcoastlib

          We are so very exceptional.

          • ahughes798

            We’re so very special…..

  • going4baroque

    The underlying cause of any conflict between one and another is fear and the cause of fear is a twisted network of thinking imposed on the brain by social conditioning, including that of the family, institutions, peer pressure, environment, Twisty thinking that causes problems is the psychological variety, which, at its source, considers one as separate from the world.
    Fearful thinking, which is essentially paranoia, has not the wherewithal to realize that twisted (irrational) thinking itself is the germ of violence, and requires the light of intelligence to attend to one’s thinking processes. This is what is referred to in the popular culture as mindfulness.
    When one is mindful, there is no fear, there is no enemy projected by confused thinking, and generally peace will reign. There is no psychological separation from the world, and the barriers that divide, the wall that is irrational thinking, ends.
    Problem solving that identifies the threat as something external to the defensive, fearful constellation of thinking that renders life small, petty, tribal and dangerous is problem solving that misses the mark. Take care of that twist of thought first, then look around. The world has changed.
    Pacem in terris.

  • Jacob DiCiaula

    If you get a chance, read “the corner” by David Simon. He starts a chapter analogizing the drug war to Vietnam. The parallels are striking; the dehumanization and glorification of force and violence over any understanding look so prescient pre-ferguson and others

  • marxalot

    The police are often the best armed, best funded, and best connected gang in town. That is, unfortunately, all they are in an increasing number of places. And since American police forces own their lineage not to thief-takers but to fugitive slave posses, they are inherently tools of white supremacy.

  • h4rr4r

    Unlawful Assembly?

    So now free speech and assembly are only allowed in specific places. I wonder what other rights are limited to specific places.

    • willi0000000

      well . . . you can’t peacefully be LGBTQ outside of a few blue states.

      [ and you’ll still get hassled in large parts of those ]

    • commatoes

      Permits and tiki torches are now required to voice discontent.

      • JustDon’tSayKneel(OrNeil)

        You forgot khaki pants and polo shirts.

        • commatoes

          Weaponized milquetoast?

    • hint hint, not the places, tis the reason

  • Viktor

    I’m an old school punk, and we hated cops without any outside influence. People of all races distrust the police, in every country in the world. NWA is innocent

  • willi0000000
    • ahughes798

      It’s the header for my facebook page.

  • eastcoastlib

    The police are in many instances an occupying force. They don’t seem to know the population, speak the language or have any idea how to keep order. What they know how to do really well is shoot unarmed black people. On the rare occasion when they are confronted by someone with the will and means to shoot back, they run like scared kittens. Indeed, fuck the police

    • commatoes

      The militarization of law enforcement in a small Georgia town…
      https://youtu.be/kajhu7qgojU

      and there is basically a “make work” i.e. give away to defense contractors, program that tranfered military hardware to local police (Exec Order banning by Obama in’15 and repealed by the “f**king moron” in 2017).

      • Guinnessmonkey

        Is that the Punisher symbol at the beginning of the video? I can’t think of many symbols less suitable for a police force.

        • commatoes

          Yes and yes. Irony’s dying gasp.

        • ahughes798

          They love to use that symbol. I’ve seen it on squad cars.

  • Zyxomma

    killermartinis, I’m going to order your book at the library. ETA: I just ordered it. I should have it next week. I’d love to buy a copy, but I’m jobless and broke.

    • KillerMartinis

      If they don’t have it let me know and I’ll make sure Penguin sends them one for their collection!

      • Zyxomma

        They’ve got it. I already ordered it, and shall be reading it shortly; probably by the end of the week. NYPL shares its collection with other branches; one can order anything in the circulating library system and the book, DVD, CD will be delivered to the branch desired (in my case, Tompkins Square). If I’d wanted it as an ebook, I could be reading it right now; there’s also an audiobook version available. Thanks.

        • commatoes

          Library upvote.

  • Master of the Gothic Script

    I wasn’t going to donate again to Wonkette until after New Year, you know cuz of money, but I’m gonna do it now because of this article. Fuckin A!

    • Me not sure

      Do it! I did a little extry last week.They really are thankful when you do!

  • Iron Monkey

    I am from a family full of police officers–my grandfather was a Lieutenant in the Chicago Police Department, uncles and cousins were cops. I have gone to a lot of funerals of cops because I was related to them–suicide, heart disease, liver disease mainly. For my grandfather, going on the CPD was better than doing what his father and uncles did, work in the stockyards. Most of my family were disgusting racists–those who became cops just got to express it more directly and forcefully. This was long before the militarization of the police forces–most of them didn’t wear body armor or carry anything more than a revolver–but the attitude was the same then as it is now and will continue to be.

    • “The Chicago Way”

      • Keith Taylor

        Uh huh. The Chicago Way. I thought, from my nice safe distance here, that once Mayor Daley lost his malevolent political stranglehold on the city the police might stop acting like the Tsar’s Cossacks slashing open Pasha’s face in the street for a peaceful protest in “Zhivago” and things might get better.
        On the subject of movies, maybe Hollywood movies like “The Untouchables” which extol the Chicago Way ought to accept some of the blame, especially since they have almost nothing to do with what really happened, and riveting though Mr. Costner and Mr. de Niro’s performances were, the characters they portray are the only ones in that fucking movie who really lived. Sean Connery’s Jimmy Malone, who helped Eliot Ness get real and made him effective by getting him to ignore the law (in the movie) was and is fucking FICTION, like Dirty Harry.
        I wonder how many police in Chicago even know that?
        As a kind of old-fashioned and prim septuagenarian (don’t ask me where the time went) I don’t use the F word all that often. But there comes a time. With Donald Trump and his ilk, and fucking neo-Nazis, spouting their crap in public, words that used to be considered obscene are now polite by comparison.

        • i just posted this upthread: i’m a blond white chick who bikes and CHI cops terrify me.

          and then i get mad that i’m terrified and more terrified that i’ll mouth off. because i do…

  • KoWT
    • egh, that version was stupid and bootlegged. It’s why on the original album they didn’t list the track – so they wouldn’t get sued.

      • KoWT

        nope… It was one of two cover from their Felons and Revolutionaries album. (the other was Dead or Alive’s “You Spin Me ’round (like a record”) They weren’t sued for it.

  • I just finished designing and building a house for two female cops from Florida. They both come from families where being a cop is what you did, it was what you were. They’re both retiring for their mental health as they tell me that the caliber of recruits has gotten so bad that they are as concerned about “bad cops” as they are about “bad people” and they struggle every day trying to change the system. They are good people who also recognize the many issues that KM points out in her post.

    • commatoes

      Unfortunately, law enforcement is attracting the entirely wrong people.

      I give you John Oliver’s piece on the border patrol.

      https://youtu.be/NnW5EjwtE2U

      • Red Bird

        I think they’re getting the type of people they want.

    • kareemachan

      We had a seminar on bullying, and a woman who was in the RCMP talked about finally being driven out by the misogyny and “pranks”, including one where the toilet door was loosened in the restroom, fell on her, and gave her a concussion. Her main piece of advice: film, report, keep record of EVERYTHING. Lots of asshats in the RCMP, seemingly.

      • Nasty Girl Brianna

        Yes there are. Sexual harassment is rampant in the ranks of the RC’s.

        • ahughes798

          Wow. I absolutely would have not expected that, seriously. I guess boys will be boys, any and everywhere.

      • unclejeems

        Dudley Dowrong.

  • Beanz&Berryz

    Dang. This here Wonk community amazes me. Passion. Voice. Rightness. Smarts. All while I have a cry over the injustice in our world. Our country. Love you all.

    • Parakeetist

      Just don’t wear pants.

      • commatoes

        People here wear pants?

        • Parakeetist

          It could happen. Just don’t let it be a habit.

          • Old Man Yells at Cloud

            I thought it was ok to wear a habit.

          • HogeyeGrex

            Kinky.

        • Only when standing before the camera. And sometimes not even then.

        • Pisto75666

          Sometimes. But we don’t like to talk about it.

        • ahughes798

          I know, right? Heathens…all of us.

        • Yellerduck

          Why would I? I have a desk.

      • AmazingProfessionalCrastinator

        Are boxer shorts considered pants?

        Asking for a friend.

        • Parakeetist

          Yes.

    • phoenix00

      Love ya right back B&B

  • Sunhead

    So are they saying the black people invented FOIA, police body cameras and mobile phone cameras?
    Because really these things are what has lead to the exposure of the atrocious behaviour of the police that black people have been telling us about for the past 30 years.

    • commatoes

      For a lot of people driving while Black (or Asian like myself) was, and for some still is, an urban legend. In my 20’s, I used to get stopped routinely at the US/CAN border and searched. My best friend’s fiance lived over the border n Buffalo. He (Dutch/Scottish) crossed the border twice a month for two years and was never stopped. About once a month, I would get stopped driving home from work at 1 AM.

      • One time we were going through Maryland, bout 6ish or so, dark out in our 05 mercury. Cop pulls out behind me, follows for 5 miles, and I even slowed down hoping he’d pass, then the lights went off and the bull horn PULL OVER NOW
        So I pulled over, and officer barrel roll with his hand on his piece approaches the side of the car shining the flashlight overhand fashion into my window. I ask “Can I help you, sir?”
        Light flicks to my very pale husband and pale enough lads, one of which is a red head.
        And he turns off his light real fast and goes “Oh, sorry, you’re ok, I think you have a tail light out.”
        “Oh?” I said. “Let me check on that right now!”
        “No, it is ok, be on your way.” He retreats, gets back in his car and speeds off. I check anyway, no fucking tail light out.

        Turns out that late model full sized cars were preferred by Baltimorians that year.

        • Nasty Girl Brianna

          “Oh shit, white people! Ok you’re free to go.”

          • Sakonyachen

            An old coworker who became a friend of mine bought a black Blazer with shiny ass rims, tinted windows, and an eardrum splitting system. We worked together across the street from meth central. The cops yanked him before he left the lot. He rolled down the tinted window and the cop saw he was white. The cop was pissed that it was a white guy.

  • schmannity

    Now, about marrying two Marines, the corps has certainly evolved on the monogamy issue.

  • commatoes

    Since there are a bunch of music fans here, I will provide some from my early 2000’s foray into Swedish punk.

    https://youtu.be/K8MkVIe9xGc

    https://youtu.be/RkqAhPCuULo

    the lyrics apply to the current climate.

  • Deborah Ujevich

    I’ve probably said this here before, but my dad was a 32-year veteran of law enforcement. In a city which was incredibly racially charged. And he retired in 1985. He’d be devastated & horrified at the state of policing in this country. He would ALWAYS tell his officers that if they wanted respect, they’d better be respectable. I was amazed at the amount of people, high- & low-profile, whom HE ARRESTED, but who said, hey, he was just doing his job, nothing personal with him. Almost 23 years after his death, he’s still a standard bearer for me, and so much of what we’ve seen lately falls woefully short.

    • thanks for this. really really good to hear.

      (as a middle aged white woman i fear the cops and i don’t want to…)

      • Deborah Ujevich

        I’m a middle aged white woman myself. In WV, where the cops are HORRIBLE. My dad was the chief in Clairton, PA, just outside of Pgh. And I’m actually working to advance criminal justice system reforms in WV. This state is VERY broken. I honestly think he’d support this effort.

        • i think all the systems are broken. i’m in chicago…so…yeah. (and now our federales are so horrible they’re making rahm / CPD look good by comparison…)

          but bless you for that story and bless your dad. when i grew up i thought cops were the good guys and i still want to think that.

          • ahughes798

            I still want to think of cops as the good guys, too. But it is getting harder by the day. I think if cops still walked beats, there would be a lot less of this abuse of power. They’d actually have to get to know the people they are allegedly protecting and serving. The good cops could actually be goodwill ambassadors of a sort. There would have to be some mutual respect, which would take some time to establish. But just from a dry scientific standpoint, it’s a lot harder to shoot someone you know than someone you don’t.

    • Donna Schoenkopf

      He was a rare man. Not enticed or despoiled by power.

  • Husband Of Mrs God

    Cops have seemed trigger-crazy for many years. Thanks for relating your experience.

  • Donna Schoenkopf

    Somehow, Linda Tirado, we have managed to live (almost) identical lives, which includes being pushed, shoved, injured, arrested, and jailed. Once for violation of the leash law. Once for a broken tail light. (I did not have the money to pay the fine or a way to get to court to beg for more time. And I was 8 months pregnant with Wonkette, herself.) And three times protesting against nuclear testing in Nevada. And once refusing to move after having been moved three times farther and farther away from the designated Presidential arrival site in white bread Thousand Oaks, California. AND your book “Hand to Mouth” could have been written by me. But I’m not that talented. Thanks for doing it for me.

    • KillerMartinis

      Listen lady I will yell at rich people about empathy ANY TIME YOU LIKE. I do that on command.

  • Donna Schoenkopf

    And ANOTHER thing. We MUST make prison reform a priority. I think all monetary fines should be a percentage of the amount of money you have. We could pay off the federal debt if we had that policy in place. IT IS HORRIBLE having to pay a seemingly “small:” fine when it means the difference between being able to pay your rent or not. Seriously

    • ahughes798

      I know I’ve told this before, so forgive me, but I got a speeding ticket. $75 fine, $250 in “court costs.” I am on disability, and that is more than 25% of my monthly income. And I still had to send my sis $300 so she can survive on her Walmart earnings. I had to borrow the speeding ticket money from Mr. 798. I CAN imagine how a person who didn’t have what I have(a roof over my head, food, a relationship w/someone who could help me out)would be deciding between not eating, or paying the rent, to pay the fine. I agree that fines for minor infractions of the law should be based on the person’s income. Like getting caught with drugs for personal use, or a broken tail light, or any number of minor things that can cost you hundreds of dollars you don’t have.

  • kareemachan

    I’ve probably said this before, but as a white woman, reading the book ‘Lovecraft Country’ by Matt Ruff was gobsmacking. Born and bred in the PNW, never had any run-ins with cops, so describing racism back in the late 40’s was horrific. Yes, the story is also a horror/fantasy story, but it was powerful.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    “I hate when a director says to me ‘Here’s how I envision this scene’…excuse me? It’s right here in the script – I ‘envisioned’ it FOR you. Do what I wrote. If you want to ‘envision’, you should become a writer. Where the fuck were you when the page was blank?”
    ― Harlan Ellison

    • Serai 1

      *sigh* This is where I part company with Harlan. He expects to be the dictator of every movie/tv set, with no willingness to accept that film is a collaborative effort. I dislike the auteur bullshit of too many directors; I’m not gonna like the same bullshit coming from the screenwriter, either. Harlan’s a fun guy, but he can get his head stuck pretty far up his ass.

      • Bub, the cynical zombie

        Fair enough, but he has a point too. I like Ken Kesey’s take on this when “One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest” won a bunch of Oscar’s: “Pumps giving pumps awards for being good pumps.”

      • As long as he’s not sticking his head up MY ass and then complaining about the stink, I guess he’s tolerable.

      • theblackdog

        This and frankly there are things that look good on paper that suck when you act it out, so it needs to be adjusted or it’s just gonna continue to suck.

        • Serai 1

          THIS THIS THIS

          Literary purism is blinkered, childish, and frankly, fucking TIRESOME. As Frank Zappa said, writing about music is like dancing about architecture – not every art form translates well into every other art form. If Harlan can’t accept his sacred words being interpreted by others, he really shouldn’t be writing for film or television. I’m all for protecting the integrity of the words, but you when you get into working with others, you should know where to draw a REASONABLE line. “Reasonable”, however, has never been in Harlan’s lexicon. It’s always bee his way or the highway.

    • I thought this was going to end with a Harvey Weinstein-esque, I hate it when a director says to me “here’s how I envision this scene,” and then masturbates in front of me.

      Frankly, I’m a little disappointed. Do you think Harlan Ellison has a quote like that?

      • Christopher Smith

        Oh, honey, Harlan Ellison has a scatological/sexual/appallingly arousing filth quote for all possible occasions..

        • Do share! There is nothing as sexy as Harlan Ellison talking dirty, especially scatologically dirty. I’ma searching for the website that lists all of his scatological, sexual, appalingly arousing filthy quotes. I’m sure it’s there. It’s like Rule 34, right?

          • Christopher Smith

            I am so sorry not to have responded sooner–I’ve admired your posts for ages and would love to talk further, if you would be amenable?
            And it is totally Rule 34. LOL!

          • I love to talk. I just can’t figger out how to get paid for it. So, yeah. I’m in China, though, so we have the internet y’all in the States are about to have — throttled back and going low and slow. Some days, it don’t even pay to turn the computer on. But, you might could visit Ye Olde Blogge and leave a comment or two. https://thepsyoflifeblog.com/

  • Serai 1

    THERE IS NO SUCH FUCKING THING AS AN UNLAWFUL ASSEMBLY IN THE FUCKING UNITED STATES, MOTHERFUCKERS.

  • Red Bird

    What the hell is a black identity extremist? Is that the make believe equivalent of a white supremacist? And why did the FBI ignore the fact that most police officers are bigots and racists?

    • mysonsam

      “Black identity extremist” is just some made up bullshit dog whistle.

      They ignore their flaws whilst screaming about everyone else’s hoping we won’t notice theirs. It’s absolute bullshit, is what it is. The police (and the Feds) lie, steal and murder with impunity; knowing that their cowed boot licking sycophants will justify it all.

      I have a 10 yr old son, and it’s sickening that I have to teach him that the police are not his friends, and that he should never talk to them, (unless he calls them for some reason…).

      We’re whiter than a toilet and I am afraid of the police and afraid for my son.

    • Kooolest G

      let me translate that for you, black identity extremist = uppity n****r

    • theblackdog

      Anyone who is black and dares to say Black Lives Matter.

  • Sakonyachen

    Wow. Wonkette is a place I come to because they accept me for the asshat that I am 98 out of 100 times. The other two I’m pretty damned insightful. I never thought I would see a post that said exactly what I would say though(In the insightful 2 out of 100, for the record).

  • It’s funny how many people will actually fight for their lives and others like them.

    Is it too soon to be talking about the possibility of open warfare on the streets,civil war revolution, and dissolution of the country? If it is, just let me know when it isn’t, so I can I share.

  • As a black person I look at this with a resigned familiarity. The FBI has been doing this for close to a hundred years since Hoover got his first bigot boner for Marcus Garvey in 1919.
    FBI memo on Marcus Garvey
    https://genius.com/Federal-bureau-of-investigation-marcus-garvey-neutralization-memo-annotated

  • phoenix00

    Dayam km. Fantastic piece.

  • TootsStansbury

    I love this.

  • Pinkham’s Law

    Killer killed it with this one. DAMN!

  • zeusspeaks

    Yes. This.

  • bubbuhh

    American police have made themselves the equivalent of the Czar’s Cossacks of 100 years ago. It’s just a matter of time before most Americans who do not belong to the GOP and the NRA fear and hate the police.

    What will change this? It will change when mass murderers begin to target the rich for the publicity value and the police start killing the bystanders in rich neighborhoods out of fear, bloodlust and stupidity. The governments of the USA from top to bottom will once more get serious about “serving and protecting”all of its citizens.

    • Iam Reading

      Yes. Everything you just said. Holy shit get out of my head.

    • Rickyphoo

      As I’ve told my wife more times they she’d like – When the 99% finally get tired of the greedy excesses of the 1%, there is going to be a revolution that is going to make the French Revolution look like a carnival.

  • Kurt Weil

    As a fifty-four year old white man with pretty much every code for privilege (I don’t play golf, so ten demerits), I am continually surprised by how clueless other people like me can be. How people can’t tell when something is rigged so dramatically in their favor is just plain weird.

    In all seriousness, I go to the hospital fairly regularly for tests because I have an aneurysm in my chest, and if I dress the right way, I’m pretty sure I could just walk into a room and start acting like a doctor without being questioned. On the rare occasion I am challenged in my life, say, to be told my reserved table isn’t ready or that I will have to wait for a few minutes, or because the store is out of something, it is in a deferential if not outright apologetic tone. I meet people I can tell dislike me for all this, but even they seem to mute their feelings, despite those feelings being entirely understandable. That the twenty something black dude getting tailed at a store doesn’t just tackle me to the ground is a kind of miracle.

    I tend to dress as neutrally as possible and blend into the background. I sold my fancy car and bought an old boring one. I wear scruffy shoes. I’m not trying to be a tourist, but distribute authority. I’m a professor, and I largely refuse to lecture and instead hold seminars. I make a point to notice if I’m interrupting or explaining things too much.

    As for cops, I avoid them like most smart people. I mean, who wouldn’t?

    • Beanz&Berryz

      My two-year younger twin, separated at birth, down to the not golf and the scruffy shoes, but with different jobs, because we’re indivuals.

      • ahughes798

        I have a theory about golf. It automatically makes you 10 years older than you really are.

        • Trip Space-Parasite

          If only we knew someone who plays a lot of golf and could stand to be 10 years closer to his COMPLETELY NATURAL end of life…

  • Raoul Leon

    Cops are pigs. Normal people don’t want to be cops.

  • Iam Reading

    Cops were the people who taught me how to hate cops. When I was a teenager I could be out till 3 in the morning with my suburban white friends and the cops wouldn’t even look at us. But if I was out with my black friends 15 minutes before curfew they pull us over throw us up against the wall molesting humiliate us as they patted us down and detained us for at least 15 to 20 minutes so that they could then write us curfew violation tickets. And of course if you had a ticket and you didn’t show up to court then they would arrest you and throw you in juvie. And they weren’t gentle. These fuckers would Knockaround little teenage kids slamming their heads in the car hoods and up against brick walls of the light. It wasn’t pretty. And this was for nothing for walking around out in public 15 minutes before curfew. Fuck those guys

    • Sunhead

      15 minutes before curfew

      This still stuns me that it’s a common thing in the USA.
      Outside of times of natural disaster curfew only exists in prisons, military bases and student dormitories. That a civilian population is routinely subjected to a blanket curfew enforced by the Police is more bizarre than most things those of us on the outside observe.

      • Iam Reading

        You have to keep in mind that this was in the Cleveland area, during the 80s, during the crack epidemic, during Reagan’s just say no campaign, and during the demonization of black people as welfare queens or crack dealers. It was a highly charged and racist environment.

        • Sunhead

          Still current.

          Thursday, June 8, 2017
          Police shall continue to enforce curfew laws throughout summer months

          CLEVELAND – Mayor Frank G. Jackson, Safety Director Michael McGrath and Chief of Police Calvin D. Williams announce that the codified ordinance 605.14 Minor’s Curfew shall continue to be enforced in the City of Cleveland throughout the summer months. Parents and guardians of minors ages 17 and under can be cited for failing to ensure that children are in compliance with the curfew laws.

          • Iam Reading

            Sigh…..

  • ahughes798

    Ms. Tirado, you have written what I have been feeling but haven’t been able to put into words for so long, and you did it so eloquently. I do not trust the police, because I saw for decades how they treat people in Chicago.

    I stood and watched 5 of Chicago’s finest kick a sleeping homeless man, in the doorway of a church(where he had permission to sleep), and was threatened with a “You’re next” if I didn’t move along. There wasn’t a damn thing I could do about it. I went home and cried. How do you call the cops on the cops?

    I have watched the CPD sell drugs and protect “stop ‘n cops” from my front porch. Right around the corner from where I lived, a female cop shot a man to death during a routine traffic stop because she thought his sunglasses were a gun. To her credit, I guess, she realised her mistake and cradled the man in her arms and comforted him. He died before the EMT’s got there. I never found out if the officer was punished for her quick trigger finger.

    One of the Catholic churches in my area had a 20 foot tall statue of Mother Mary on display for awhile, one street over from where I lived. One weekend, they had a fiesta in her honor, with carnival rides and good food. Around 10 PM one night, I heard a lot of screaming coming from the alley behind my apartment, which was on the backside of the building. A bunch of guys was beating up this one guy. I called the cops. I screamed out my window at the guys beating the other guy, and they ran like hell. The cops arrived and started screaming at the now unconscious man, slapping him, hard, until he woke up. They asked him his address, which was in Humboldt Park, and asked him “What the hell are you doing over here?,” they screamed. Eventually an ambulance came and took him away.

    Then they all trooped up to my apartment, to get a witness statement. I couldn’t give them much. I was 25 feet up, and 30 feet away and the alley was not well lit. All I could give them was the clothes the crimers were wearing. As they left, one of the cops looked me straight in the eye and said “You really suck as a witness.” I reported him, but never heard anything again.

    The reason my area was so well patrolled by really aggressive cops? Dan Rostenkowski’s mother lived across the block from me. Sorry about the rant. I fully support Black Lives Matter. If I wasn’t so decrepit, I’d march with them.

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  • King Beauregard

    Cell phones and the Internet have proven two things. First, they have proven that Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster probably aren’t real, because if they were, there’d be a ton of new footage coming out all the time. But it’s not happening.

    What we ARE getting new footage of, though, is cops abusing their powers. Prior to the footage, it’s been particularly difficult for a lot of white people to know what to do with claims of police brutality, because whites’ encounters with police are so often amicable. It’s like when someone tells you that a friend of yours is a real bastard when you’re not around: you don’t think the person is lying when they tell you that, but it’s also very difficult to reconcile with your direct experiences.

    But once you see evidence of your friend’s assholery, that changes things; you’re unlikely to see your friend the same way. And the same with seeing the footage of cops abusing their powers. The really damning thing is, the police themselves have had to know about this for the longest time and have been banking on their ability to get away with it without their white fans being any the wiser. That worked for a very long time all right, but now white people can see with their very own eyes what blacks have been describing for ages.

    Even if you want to argue that the infamous police murders are ultimately anecdotal — “only” a dozen or so people a year in a nation of 330 million — the fact remains that the police have been indefensibly slow in trying to clean up their act, to prevent it from happening ever again. One cop shoots a black man for no good reason, that’s just a bad cop. But if the department runs to the defense of that cop, it’s a bad department. And if organizations like the police union or the FBI dismiss and reject the very legitimate criticisms about police brutality, well, they’ve decided to be part of the problem too.

    • ahughes798

      If a good cop covers for a bad cop, then he’s no longer a good cop. And brother, do they cover for each other.

    • Sunhead

      have been banking on their ability to get away with it without their white fans being any the wiser.

      No.
      I think they thought they were enacting the will of the ‘white’ people.and are doubly shocked that when their efforts were exposed that ‘their’ people got angry with them rather then thanking them for keeping the colored man down.

  • Ken M13

    To be a police officer in the US requires no more than a GED and a couple months training. Personally I think someone who has a de facto right to kill just by saying the magic words “I feared for my life” should at least be educated enough to understand words like “de facto”.

  • Atheist

    “Black identity extremists” reminds me of people who sneer down their nose at “identity politics” because god forbid anyone actually care about their own oppression.

    The system is supposed to serve everyone, but it doesn’t. That is the whole point. It has nothing to do with being opposed to someone on the basis of identity but about the basis of real lived experiences of oppression.

    I also have a problem with the report characterizing activism against police brutality as a matter of “perception.” It’s like telling someone “I’m sorry if I offended you,” which means that being offended is a matter of the person who is offended and not the person who has been offensive. Police brutality is a reality, and to call it a perception is not okay.

  • sgt. jmk of the résistance

    This is a fantastic piece, Killermartinis. Truly excellent. I couldn’t agree more.

    This rang in my head so hard – “out-of-control megalomaniacs who can’t handle the idea of a world in which they are not petty tyrants….It’s the cops themselves that made me a radical, watching them abuse their power…”

    My stepfather is a retired cop, and I am uncomfortably certain that my feeling that he was “one of the good ones” when he was on the job is based more on wishful thinking and love than it is on what he’s like as a person and what he’s said about how he approached his job.

    I know that, as a person, he prides himself on being fair and even-handed – he’s the peacemaker in our family arguments, and tries to take the emotion out of fights and think things through fairly and logically. I know that he has spoken often of how important it was for him, as a cop, to treat everyone, from the junkies who helped him with his DRE certification to the chief surgeon he pulled over for drunk driving, with respect. I know he frequently said that he accepted that interacting with him was the worst part of the day for anyone he encountered on the job and it was up to him to make sure it wasn’t worse than it had to be, but I have zero confidence in his ability to see his own prejudices at work, and I have to wonder how quick he was to think it had to be worse for some people more than others.

    I want to think that he wouldn’t have been one of these militarized assholes, but I know that he got a little extra swagger on when he put on the highway patrolman’s uniform of breeches, boots, and a leather jacket, and an even bigger one when he got on the big police motorcycle.

    I know that the worst thing I ever heard him call someone he arrested was a “skel,” but I have zero confidence that he was immune from the casual racism and ugliness his cop friends seemed so comfortable expressing, and I have even less confidence that he would ever turn in a fellow cop for being a violent racist asshole to someone or for brutalizing a suspect or a member of the public.

    I’ve met a few of his cop friends, and nearly every one of them has at some point made me wince or protest in response to some openly bigoted, arrogant comment…and it was as much the arrogance – the evident belief that they held all the power – as it was the bigotry that would make me gag.

    THOSE are the guys who formed my opinion of cops… THOSE are the guys who made me view cops with suspicion even though I’m insulated from their worst behavior by being a nice middle-class white lady in a mostly white county as well as a cop’s kid.

    This piece brought me face to face with a realization I’ve tried to avoid – even if he was as fair and even-handed and respectful as he said he tried to be, it all means nothing if the men he worked with were violent and racist and brutal and he did nothing about it. In the end, I know to my bones that he would side with them over the public they claim to serve, and that stupid, toxic, arrogant brotherhood is what makes THEM be the enemies of everyone else… NOT the other way around.

  • TA

    What I noticed about the G-20 protests on TV was that all of the cops had identifiers on their backs, on their helmets. They were codes, rather than names, but that made them readable at a distance. How novel. To be held responsible for your actions because even though you look like part of an army, you are in fact identifiable.

  • Kooolest G

    the other thing that’s changed about the police in recent years is steroid abuse.

    “Resoundingly, yes, I’ve heard many, many accounts of police officers taking steroids,” says Harvard steroid specialist Harrison Pope, M.D., author of The Adonis Complex. “But it’s impossible to put a number on it. Even if I got a federal grant to study this, I wouldn’t be able to get that number, because of the veil of secrecy.” Officer Jimmy, however, is less constrained. “Steroid use is very pervasive in law enforcement,” insists the 26-year-old cop. “I’d say, of the cops I know, 20 percent to 25 percent of them are using.”

    so if you do the math, if there’s usually 2 cops in a car and 1 out of 4 is road raging, every other time you get pulled over, your dealing with a hormonal time bomb in body armor.

    • Lily412

      That’s fucking terrifying.

  • aureolaborealis

    A friend of mine, who has all the progressive libtard bona fides, became a police this year. Super nice guy. Candle in the darkness and all that.

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