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Here is a drunk man in St. Charles! He was not a Dom fan.

On our last day in St. Louis, after nearly a month in the field, Dominic Gwinn and I walked up Delmar Boulevard, where windows had been boarded up and painted with murals after a few people went on a window-smashing spree last weekend. We had to walk into the street to get around a gaggle of middle-class teenaged girls taking Instagram photos of themselves in front of one painting. It’s unknown if any of them could have told you why exactly there was plywood where windows should be except that there’d been some kind of Black Lives Matter thing.

What had actually happened was the Stockley verdict, in which ex-SLPD officer Jason Stockley had killed Anthony Lamar Smith after saying he was going to kill him but a judge found him not guilty anyway. It set off waves of protest in the city. Some evenings that’s meant broken windows, which has certainly annoyed people! People in St. Louis are Very Concerned about the safety and health of their local windows because of Law And Order and Respect and things! And after they have secured the safety of the windows they will think about securing the safety of the black residents!

The “paintings” in the Delmar Loop weren’t just a BLM thing.

I’ve been thinking about how I should frame this, how to explain this impossible place, but I don’t think I can do it in a blog post. So instead, here are some things that I’ve seen in the last four weeks. The pictures are Dom’s. (You should hire him, by the way, if you are a photo editor! He is the guy you want out getting your shots, because he is patently insane and sees nothing wrong with lying in the street while a group of a thousand people marches around him.)

You thought I was kidding, but here is a picture of our very own Dom lying in a gutter between lines of riot cops and a large protest march. And he got a great shot!

I walked with a few hundred protesters through St. Charles, which does not think of itself as St. Louis. It’s over the Missouri river from the city proper and features an unexpectedly manicured casino, an artisanal dog biscuit bakery and, on that evening, a beer festival. Oh, and also it’s where the white flight settled. So drunk racist white people of course were screaming things like “All lives don’t matter” or “Your life doesn’t matter” or “We back the blue.” I also heard things that I will not reprint here because nobody needs to read that, and I am a woman who will happily print phrases like “racist dickweasels” or “motherfucking waste of goddamned space” and who takes the British position on the word “cunt,” which may or may not be edited out of wonkette even! So when I tell you the words were disgusting, you will know that it was drunk white people talking to black people with their most boisterous racist vocabularies. I might have even learned new words that night.

Suburban St. Charles bar patrons look on as protesters march through the street.

I watched police object to protesters carrying guns, though the state just this year passed a law underscoring how totally okay it is to carry guns in Missouri. The state is having a moment in which it is having to confront the fact that open carry means open carry, and that if you want to stop black people from having guns you need special legislation for that. (The felony incarceration rate does a PRETTY good job of making guns a White People Only thing, but it’s not 100%. Police can only find so many broken taillights a day, after all!) Since non-lethal force is authorized when police are confronted with potentially deadly threats, like guns or something, we all watched police spraying chemicals at protesters and residents alike with joyful abandon. Just, into the air for fun like cowboys would shoot the air in old Westerns. Only the cowboys were riot cops with low-budget Star Wars uniforms on.

Heavily armed riot police guarding the Ameristar hotel and casino.

Journalists from local papers were arrested while they were wearing press tags and carrying notepads when police surrounded them, ordered them to leave the area without giving them a path and then booked them for unlawful assembly. This looks in the video to be intentional on the part of police, who have been known to target journalists in order to stop them taking pictures. They use a strobe light at night as well to disrupt shots, no matter how many seizure-prone people might be nearby.

This guy took off his work shirt but was clearly a local restaurant worker. Refused to show his face with his sentiments.

White people held a demonstration outside a Billy Joel concert, which is such a very interesting thing that I will leave it to you to editorialize in your own head.

St. Charles riot cops were not happy that protesters ruined their Oktoberfest.

At least five cars that I saw drove into crowds of protesters at low speeds. One did so at high speed and the driver turned out to be a police officer. Nobody was injured in that incident, but one woman had minor injuries from a guy who backed into her with his truck in another.

Police have body-slammed protesters in a full-on WWE audition. They’ve published their arrest list on Twitter. They’ve knocked down and choked old ladies. They’ve chanted “whose streets, our streets!” They have arrested hundreds of people, many for the crime of “being near people who cops think look like protesters.”

We went to cover this story a month ago. The first two weeks were tense waiting, with everyone feverishly speculating on what the city might do. In the last two weeks I was tear gassed, caught a rock to the back of the head, marched nearly two hundred miles and watched dozens of grown people dissolve into tears of rage and grief. I learned new things about racism, because it’s St. Louis and it’s the sort of place where the metaphors write themselves: I actually saw a drunken Missourian tell his buddy “hold my beer” so he could more effectively scream racial epithets at passing black people.

There is a beauty to be found in anything; shattered glass will sparkle in starlight. There isn’t much that’s good that will come out of this not-guilty verdict but there is one moment that burned into my retinas because it was so unexpectedly powerful: a homeless man walking out of a gas station with six bottles of water to give to protesters. I asked him how much he’d spent, and he told me “everything I had.” And that’s the movement in St. Louis, a sometimes powerful and sometimes futile attempt to right wrongs that is undertaken because it is right, not because it is easy.

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  • Villago Delenda Est

    Missouri is basically in the “hold my beer, Alabama and Mississippi!” mode right now.

  • Annie Jomes

    Thank you for this. I don’t know what to say; there’s just too much. But thank you.

  • The state of Misery is a racist shithole of a state. .

    • When my mom was a kid she and her family lived there sometime in the 1940s for about a year. My mom’s clearest memory about the state was she and my uncle weren’t allowed to play in the yard because of all the rattlesnakes.

      They always pronounced it ‘Misery’.

    • Red Bird

      You could say that about the whole country.

  • MasRioBravoHombre

    Fuck every white racist with a fencepost wrapped in barbwire.

  • Clyde Barrow

    White people held a demonstration outside a Billy Joel concert, which is such a very interesting thing that I will leave it to you to editorialize in your own head.

    The lengths of what angry suburban White people will go to when Billy Joel dares leaves out “Scenes From An Italian Restaurant” from his set list!

    • Three Finger Salute

      More like “2017: Seen Someone’s Lights Get Punched Out in Trumpistan.”

    • Werewolf

      They musta figured out he’s a (((globalist))).

    • Lascauxcaveman

      A bottle of red
      A bottle of white
      Or maybe a shot of pepper spraaaaay tonight….

  • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

    There is no emoticon for the rage I feel after reading this.

    What ever happened to “love thy neighbor!”

  • Oblios_Cap

    I notice the cops were really defending her casino. Can’t have the monied classes be discomforted!

  • MynameisBlarney
  • Michael Smith

    Though your brother’s bound and gagged
    And they’ve chained him to a chair
    Won’t you please come to Chicago
    Just to sing

    • Oblios_Cap

      In a land that’s known as freedom
      How can such a thing be fair?

  • Oblios_Cap

    I’ve always found that nothing good ever comes by having cops coming around.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      I worked with a woman whose husband was a cop. Met him at a social event. I was coming back from lunch when he was coming in to see her, and he reached out to grab my elbow to get my attention as I was getting on the elevator. He was in uniform, and that was the first thing I saw when I looked around. You probably know the jolt that went through me before I saw who it was.

  • Bananas Foster

    It’s too fucking early in the day to cry.

    I need wine.

  • canes_pugnaces

    “…this is an island, sitting in the middle of an ocean, and it’s a big ocean. It’s a very big ocean. That island was hit as hard as you can hit. Literally houses are just demolished. It was like tornadoes. It was like having hundreds of tornadoes.”

    — DJT

    • mailman27

      Silver-tongued devil. The best silver. Just terrifically shiny. The very very best.

  • MynameisBlarney

    A history of civil rights protests.

    https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029633238

  • Ghenghis McCann

    ‘an artisanal dog biscuit bakery’ OK, I have to ask; Is it the dogs or the biscuits that are artisanal?

    • Oblios_Cap

      both.

    • Daniel

      The artisanal dog bakes biscuits. He has a deliberately flamboyant mustache and sailor tats.

      • MynameisBlarney

        And a pompadour?
        Tell me he has a pompadour!

    • Marion in Savannah

      I wonder if that’s the place where the gluten-free peanut butter flavored dog treats I’ve seen in our market come from…

  • jesuswasablack

    “and that if you want to stop black people from having guns you need special legislation for that”
    Does the constitution even apply to colored folk?
    https://www.wwaytv3.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/blackpanthersgunssunday-e1485877638480.jpg

    • KillerMartinis

      not usually in Missouri from what I’ve seen in three years of reporting from there.

      • proudgrampa

        No wonder you drink martinis…

        • KillerMartinis

          Or wine, or bourbon, or vodka, or whatever’s around really

          • Oblios_Cap

            I think I’m in love…

        • MynameisBlarney

          Not just any ol’ martini….KILLER martinis!

          • proudgrampa

            Indeed.

    • MynameisBlarney

      How dare those darn blah people take up arms to defend themselves from being murdered wholesale by the cops!
      Why can’t they just be moar white?

    • h4rr4r

      This is how gun control will come back to the USA.

      However for the time being this is likely the safest a protester ever was.

      • Daniel

        “This is how gun control will come back to the USA.”

        Wrapped in the flag and carrying a fiery cross.

        • h4rr4r

          No, that is fascism.

          Gun control in the USA has always been popular when used to restrict the rights of minorities.

          • Querolous

            Racism/ fascism::potatoe/tomatoe

    • Ghenghis McCann

      Only two-thirds of it?

      • redarmyzombie

        No, it’s three-fifths.

    • jesterpunk

      Saint Ronnie Raygun says no.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

    • Rick Hill

      Actually waiting for the nra to start a shadow campaign to have more black folks armed. Then they can screech at their members “See!!??!?! We told you you need more guns!!”

    • Villago Delenda Est

      After the Black Panthers openly carried long guns in Sacramento in 1967, Ronald Reagan signed the most restrictive gun control legislation of the 60’s the second it hit his desk.

      • Arolpin

        And who was governor of California at the time and signed that legislation? Ronald Reagan (PBUH), vaunted saint of the RWNJs. Ronny the Gun Grabber! (Honestly, the fastest way to get better gun control laws in the US is to encourage African Americans to open carry. I don’t suggest this though, because it’s not like the cops don’t kill enough blacks who AREN’T carrying.)

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    There are parts of the St. Louis area that are quite lovely from an architectural standpoint. But it is one of the most shockingly racist towns I have ever seen outside of the deepest of the Deep South.

    • Jennaratrix

      Just go anywhere else in Missouri. I’ve been here 12 years and I’m still in shock (grew up in Massachusetts.)

    • MynameisBlarney

      Some of the most shockingly racist people I’ve ever met were from up North.

      • Jennaratrix

        I’m not going to tell you you’re wrong, but in 27 years in Massachusetts, I never heard anyone white use the N word, or opine to a complete stranger that the part of the neighborhood where “the blacks” live should be razed, or lament that we will “just never be able to get along with these n—s,” or try to soothe her children’s fears about moving to a new house by reassuring them that “there are less black people here.” All of these happened to me before I’d lived outside of Kansas City, MO for three years.

        Are there racists up north? You bet. Is it as acceptable to be openly racist in Boston as it is in St. Louis? In Southie yes, everywhere else, no. There’s individual racists, and then there’s systemic, wide-open, PROUD racism where it’s assumed that everyone white hates everyone not-white. And I’ve run up against that second kind a lot in Missouri, and have been called some ugly names for NOT being the right kind of white person; i.e., the kind that hates black people and responds to any of the above statements with a hearty amen.

        • goonemeritus

          I have found people in the North to be more strategic about their racism.

          • Jennaratrix

            Yeah, that’s probably true. And I don’t know if that’s a good or bad thing. Here’s what I’m going to say, though, and this is my opinion and my experience: in MA, it was easier for me to pretend that racism wasn’t that bad. I wasn’t faced with it every day. Here in MO, I am CONSTANTLY aware that racism is a daily, widespread problem. I’m white, so being faced with racism is not dangerous for me, so again, this is just my experience. But for me, for my social activism and my ability to be a decent, aware person, it was “better” for the racism to be less strategic. It’s shoved right up in my face, and I was forced to confront it and decide what I wanted to do about it. I could pretend it didn’t exist up north, and in my 20s (sadly) that’s pretty much what I did. Not anymore.

        • willi0000000

          i’ve lived the last 68 years in Massachusetts . . . i’m sorry you weren’t paying attention.

          too many people here* are very good at being publicly non-racist.

          * and, i assume, every other “liberal” place.

          • Jennaratrix

            No, that was exactly my point – they don’t do it PUBLICLY. I didn’t say it doesn’t happen, or that it’s better, or acceptable; just that it’s not as obvious.

            Here, you don’t even have to be paying attention. It’s fucking CONSTANT. And people look surprised – shocked, really – when you don’t agree. I’ve never seen anything like it.

      • ViveLaResistance!

        I have lived in New England for almost all of my life. Racism most definitely exists here. However, it is usually bifurcated into the “poor” racists (Southie, backwoods Maine, et. al), that mostly just hate everybody due to poverty and lack of education, and the “country club” racists, who claim that they are not racist, but will pull up the NIMBY drawbridge if social change actually tried to encroach on their fall-foliaged enclaves.

        Common to both types is “the look”. I am white and my wife is biracial (mother is African-American). Almost every time we go to the supermarket, some yokel, or even a rich mom with her kids, will follow us with a “what are they doing here” stare. It is not the innocent stare of a child because my wife looks different. Nor is it (usually) the absolute “blow your brains out” hate stare of an Easy Rider redneck. Rather, it is a look of ignorance that belies repressed assumptions about “us” and “them” that are learned by only seeing media images of black people as criminals, protesters, or the “exceptions”. (grrr)

        Most white people will say that we are just paranoid. Most black people will say “Umm-hmm” and know instantly what I am talking about, This is the very nature of racism in “civilized” parts of America, where white people have no clue that they have the privilege of going to a store without anyone doing a double-take, or wondering if the cop pulling them over has an itchy trigger finger, or if that co-worker has ever said the N-word in private.

        Yes, this is far better than the open hostility in Missouri or other southern locales. But racism is still a fact of life in all of America.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Visit Cincinnati some time.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        I was just going to say that. The town of Ludlow, across the river, was notorious in the 1970s for forcing out all the black residents with harassment, arrests, etc. I lived there briefly in the mid-80s while in grad school and there still were no POC anywhere.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • RocketManCaptainHowdy

      Damn multiculturalists and their time machines.

    • Daniel

      This is why he should never have been allowed in the country. Refugees want to change the fabric of America.

    • Three Finger Salute

      He was a communist, an illegal criminal alien, a reporter for the lying, crooked fake news media, and a Jew. Many, many people don’t know that.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6da8637e9c09a3bd9f0e0e127822e462a502b2eb7ec4a475c46f700048d68599.jpg

      • Cornelius Fussbudget

        Maybe Superman will look for democracy over in Germany. Although, they are understandably wary of ubermenschen over there.

  • Oblios_Cap

    Missouri – just because some one says “show me”, you really shouldn’t.

    • Crystalclear12

      We can’t help ourselves.
      God help us.

  • Gee, Your Hair Smells Horrific

    Missouri? Not sure why there is such racial animosity there. Oh wait . . .
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/US_SlaveFree1861.gif

    • gene108

      Indiana’s pretty bad. I don’t think slavery versus non-slave states is a 100% predictor of current levels of racial animosity anywhere.

      • Gee, Your Hair Smells Horrific

        I don’t think there’s anywhere in the country that is immune to racial animosity, but I don’t think being a former slave state helps at all.

      • chortlingdingo

        It never really was. Basically no one in the 1800s was for racial equality. The abolitionists just wanted an end to slavery.

    • suziq

      I could be wrong, but wasn’t 1861 more than 100 FUCKING YEARS AGO!?!?!?!!!??1 When can we get past this?

  • Oblios_Cap

    It’s hard to believe Mark Twain was from there.

  • SayItWithWookies

    I hope bigotry isn’t moving north due to global warming — and that we’re instead watching the last (albeit long) gasps of a played-out dead end in the social experiment.

    • gene108

      I wish I had your optimism. White privilege is being threatened and White people are not giving up their status quietly. I think that’s the driving force behind Trump’s success.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Yabbut…I still think it’s the last gasp though.

        • Red Bird

          Huh. That’s a long, two hundred years long gasp.

      • Rebel Scum with permit

        I am just looking at my family so not a representative sample, but as Trump worshippers they seem to have it pretty damn good. They have union pensions and healthcare plans, and Medicare. They own homes. Their kids are struggling, but then again, their kids never went to college (some dropped out of high school) and made some not great life choices.
        Not sure why they are so angry and resentful

        • C4TWOMAN

          I have a theory that includes undiagnosed anxiety. but instead of saying, shit why am I anxious and seeing a therapist, they latch on to a target to blame. Mebbe because only weak liberals see therapist?
          To make matters worse they teach their children to blame people when they’re feeling bad. It takes a very logical and perceptive kid to notice how dumb that is and break out of it.
          .02

        • gene108

          When I was growing up in the 1980’s, people would talk about the “good old days”, in the 1950’s and 1960’s (lots of nostalgia for the era from 1947 or so to 1965, when I was a kid), because a guy (always a guy, never a gal), could drop out of high school, get a job at the factory or steel mill, and support a family as the lone earner.

          They want those high paying low skill jobs back, and resent that things have changed. And in large part they changed because Reagan “unleashed the power of the free market” on their factories, so mergers that would have been considered noncompetitive, prior to the 1980’s, were green lighted. And thus the era of corporate raiders was born, wherein a rich person buys a majority stake in a company, paying the share holders a premium and stripping a company of its assets to pay himself back.

          The fast decline of the middle class can traced right back to the Reagan Administration’s opening up of M&A activity, so running a company profitably and taking care of your was no longer enough to be considered a good CEO. It just made you a target of a corporate raider, because you had a healthy balance sheet that the corporate raider could transfer to his personal bank account.

          And thus the era of downsizing and maximizing profits, at the expense of employees, came into being, which we are still living with today.

          • Celtic_Gnome

            When I graduated from high school in 1972, you could go up the road to the GM plant in Lordstown with a high school diploma and no work experience and get an entry-level union job with full benefits working on the assembly line for $15 an hour. Gas was twenty-three cents a gallon.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Bigotry was always in the north. Just talk to my Long Island and upstate NY relatives. It’s just a different kind of bigotry.

      • Jennaratrix

        ^^This. Racists are all over this country, it just shows in different ways.

        • C4TWOMAN

          They don’t have the unreasonable expectation of getting their feelings legislated.
          Otoh. Southern racists really believe they can turn the clock back….

        • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

          And proliferates in the lower socio-economic, under educated groups.

      • aureolaborealis

        My north-country kin, with their rebel flags and sympathies, are an abomination to the memory of the 1st Minnesota.

    • Marion in Savannah
    • sosuume

      It’s gone farther north than St. Louis — but the city has made sure it remains divided and segregated for generations. I live here and lament that the area cannot seem to ever come to terms with its racism. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/179afb66150ab25c5148fe5b9cb40397a53d58e3d9e1dee4ef1f41ad0868bbbd.gif

  • Red Bird

    As noted before, the police response to these protesters was stronger than the one to the white supremacist in Charlottesville. This country hates black people that much.

    • Vendetta
      • Daniel

        Gosh, how clever of you.

      • Red Bird

        When the country can discuss institutional racism and white supremacy without needing a sedative, I’ll stop generalizing. But the current trend shows that “The Whites” have a long way to go. Sorry, not sorry.

        • Daniel

          It’s the right wing view- to talk about systemic problems is “blaming everyone”, unless you’re talking about, say, academia in which case there really is a huge left wing campaign to stop people saying things just because those things are laughably false and bitterly prejudiced. “Systemic problems” can exist, but only when they allow the right to feel persecuted. They get off on being victims.

        • Vendetta
          • RocketManCaptainHowdy

            This is a porno site for minors.

          • Daniel

            Can you communicate in written English?

        • TJ Barke

          FYI, pretty sure Vendetta is wolf tracker.

          • Red Bird

            OK. Thanks for the heads up.

          • Eileen Besse

            Oh, shit….

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Were you around for the evening discussion that the real WT had his nym stolen by some poser who goes thru the site stealing everyones’ nyms?

      • RocketManCaptainHowdy

        Do you have a bear I can poke? Pornographically, I mean.

        • Marion in Savannah

          It more likely has a wolf, IYKWIMAITYD.

  • Anna Rompage

    I see why so many white Americans are so afraid of becoming a minority class… They’re fearful that they will end up being treated in the same manner that they treat people of color & other minority classes…

    • RocketManCaptainHowdy

      YUUUP

    • Red Bird

      It’s an unfounded fear too. But that’s what they use to create the straw man they need to defend their racism.

      • george lastrapes

        For the poor, racism is based on fear and ignorance, and that is bad enough. But when the moneyed classes use that racism to maintain political and economic power, I feel that their cynicism and hypocrisy is worse, as it is more insidious and harder to oppose.

    • Wild Cat

      I think another part of it is that they fear “The Dark Hordes,” led by “Cosmopolitan Jews,” will rape, rob, and kill them for their transgressions of slavery, segregation, and imprisonment while they held power from 1600 through the present.

      • Oblios_Cap

        “The Dark Hordes”? That makes me long for the days of “The Yellow Menace”.

        • Wild Cat

          Remember that?
          An ugly modern version was anti-Japanese pabulum in the 1980s when the Japanese dared to practice the same capitalism the US taught them to use after 1945.

        • Creepoman

          Dennis’ jaundiced little sister?

      • Three Finger Salute

        That’s basically the plot of that French novel that Bannon wanks to. It’s also disturbingly popular in France itself.

      • Red Bird

        I think the real fear is that the world will slowly stop considering whiteness something special and they will be treated like everyone else. Things that are only mediocre will be treated as just average and not rare.

        • Lord Jim

          “Lamentably, it is a historical fact that privileged groups seldom give up their privileges voluntarily. Individuals may see the moral light and voluntarily give up their unjust posture; but, as Reinhold Niebuhr has reminded us, groups tend to be more immoral than individuals.”


          Martin Luther King Jr.,

          Why We Can’t Wait

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Prezactly. What they can’t understand is that the new majority will be far more emphatic with the roles reversed. BECAUSE THEY’VE BEEN THERE.

      The zero sum mentality is crippling.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Empathic, not emphatic. Emphatic would mean they would emphasize the treatment they received and dial it up quite a few notches. Then again, to play devil’s advocate, there’s no guarantee that once a group reaches “majority” levels they will be empathic to the ones who are not. People in the groups that weren’t white until for whatever reason they became designated as such, they didn’t exactly become empathetic to the next group trying to move upward.

        Ben Franklin hated Germans, then Germans hated Jews (well, everyone did, but Hitler went all the way to the extreme), now the hardline Zionists are picking on the Arabs (and other Jews who tell them to knock it off), there’s Poles and Slavs joining Nazi organizations, and of course the cohort of Uncle Toms and Tio Tomases who see picking on “their own” as a way to get honorary token status in the “majority” group. You think Ted Cruz gives a shit about Dreamers? Or Ben Carson about blacks in the projects?

        Fact of the matter is, humans suck; we’re inherently competitive, and we’re always going to find something to punch each other over instead of going after the real enemies at the top who are enjoying this dogfight from the perch of their luxury skybox.

        I see no reason why a balkanized USA wouldn’t devolve and fracture into sectarian intra-group wars in addition to a fight over majority-minority apartheid. I’m not saying we should go full ethnostate (although at this point, Partition might be something worth considering). I’m saying that the USA has never been able to confront its legacies of structural racism and ethnic strife, and will never confront this in a good way. We’re going to burn the motherfucker down before we ever learn to get along. Canada better build a fortified, nuclear-safe igloo over their whole geopolitical land mass and make America pay for it. This isn’t going to end well at all.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          I blame the spell checker. Yes, yes I do!

    • C4TWOMAN

      I doubt the people who have that fear are even aware of it..

    • P’jama Pahnts

      This line of thinking works for many rising minorities:

      There is simply nothing we can do about the rise of atheism but accept the inevitable and hope that they do not treat Christians the way that Christians have treated them

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Who said that?

        • P’jama Pahnts

          “Youth pastor, name unkown”. I wish there was someone to credit.

          • george lastrapes

            A pastor who was much into good works once told me, an agnostic volunteer, that unbelievers were a large part of his effort. “And they do it without a heavenly reward in mind. They do it because they can, and because people are in need. That must be very pleasing to God.”

          • P’jama Pahnts

            That’s…confusing? I’d love to chat with this person. Sounds very cool but I would have some (very polite) questions.

          • george lastrapes

            I don’t think he was being in the least ironic. Much to think about in what he said. I had recently told him that I was quite taken by something Kant had written: that God is beyond all human categories, including existence and non-existence. “I’ll be thinking about that for a long time,” he said.

    • Holly

      Bullseye!

    • george lastrapes

      The Reps have stoked white fear of blacks, and the Dems have stoked black fear of whites (though not so vehemently and brazenly, I like to think). High time it is for blacks and whites to find common ground, and no better place than the south.

  • Oblios_Cap
    • kaydenpat

      So Sessions is giving a speech on freedom of speech when his President is denouncing Black athletes for exercising their right to free speech? Isn’t that ironic?

      • Marion in Savannah

        Poor Irony is drunk again, this time on Everclear.

  • kaydenpat

    Thanks for covering this. The media doesn’t even mention that the protests in St. Louis are ongoing. Trump has sucked up all of the media’s attention with all of his “look squirrels!” antics.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Why won’t the BLM thugs stop making White People react this way?

    • Oblios_Cap

      He was clearly distraught!

    • jesterpunk

      I see he is suffering from high levels of “economic anxiety”.

      • RocketManCaptainHowdy

        How are people supposed to bear the endless disrespect from elites?

  • TJ Barke

    Making America Grate Again.

    • wait! what?

      Cheese, you had to go there.

      • RocketManCaptainHowdy

        Cheddar get used to it.

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    White people held a demonstration outside a Billy Joel concert, which is such a very interesting thing that I will leave it to you to editorialize in your own head.

    We didn’t start the fire?

    • Mr. Blobfish

      I, too, have felt like demonstrating outside Billy Joel concerts, but that’s because I think he is the Spawn of Satan.

      • Swampgas_Man

        And he looks EXACTLY like the late Roy Cohn, as the late SPY magazine pointed out.

      • TJ Barke

        Piano man libels!

    • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

      No, we didn’t light it, but we tried to fight it.
      It took my nephew and I 3 days to memorize that song. And I recently sang it for people on a bet to prove it.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        Ha! that’s how I once won a karaoke bet.

        • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

          I knew I liked you. I have my own karaoke set-up.

  • goonemeritus

    That post was awesome, thank you.

  • https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fb487589990ebcc8ec12968c2184b5223ebb113567cb3cbd63d1d056e6d7b538.png

    Then we owe it to the rest of the world that the US be listed as a state sponsor of terrorism, because we let Cops torture and kill black people?

    Fair enough

    • Daniel

      Well, and all the money y’all sent to the IRA back in the day.

      And the weapons you gave to the mujahedin in the eighties.

      And that Nicaragua thing.

    • Hollandaise

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but NK mostly terrorizes its own people – don’t we usually just let that go? The US on the other hand has a long and storied history of committing/financing violence in other countries for it’s own political goals…

  • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

    Something tells me that Elmer Fudd’s Department of Protecting Racist Cops is in no hurry to investigate the st Louis PD.

  • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

    I love how Very Serious White People think that a protest March is a wonderful opportunity for a Very Serious Conversation About Race.

    • HorseChestnut

      Also, “very serious conversation about race” = “white people shouting abuse.”

      • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

        No, the ones shouting abuse are not the problem. They are easily identified and ostracized.The ones trying to motherfucking tone police a street protest are the problem. They are sufficienttly articulate to integrate into normal society and pursue a political agenda.

        Trump is probably the last overtly racist president, but racist cops will outlast him by decades, if not centuries.

  • C4TWOMAN

    Now I have a Billy Joel s “dancing with myself” earworm… thanks, Wonkette!

    • RocketManCaptainHowdy

      Billy Idol?

      • C4TWOMAN

        Damn you’re right. It’s still Wonkette s fault.

      • Lord Jim

        I’m trying to envision Billy Joel standing in front of his pianer, Jerry-Lee-Lewis-style, performing “Dancing with Myself”.

        • Magyar Has Had It Up To Here

          Why do you hate yourself?

    • Edith Prickly

      Billy Idol libellz!

  • BoatOfVelociraptors

    We need a follow up to “fuck the police” with “I’m Gonna kill this motherfucker, don’t you know it” sampled in a loop.

  • Teecha

    As a very British woman, I feel I need to clarify- cunt is the worst of all swears in most of the UK. We don’t use it as often as you yanks all seem to think. I don’t deny that there are some areas where it’s lost its bite, but that is not most of Britain.

    It’s the perfect epithet for the racists referenced in this article.

    • Daniel

      We all know that London is all of Britain, and the East End is all of the working class of Britain.

      • KillerMartinis

        wait is my knowing about shoreditch not the same thing as geopolitics

        • Teecha

          Nathan Barley is not all of us.

          • Daniel

            That’s well bum.

        • Lord Jim

          Oranges and lemons LIBEL!!1!

      • Teecha

        lol

        The majority of Londoners would agree with you. They’re wrong too. Fucking townies

      • Grumpy Twat

        Only because it’s grim Up North and we are all unemployed.

      • Parakeetist
    • KillerMartinis

      I hung out primarily with zero-hours workers and political journalists over there so I expect my perception is skewed, but still. Even Scaramucci didn’t say cunt, so you KNOW it’s bad here.

      • Teecha

        It’s really the worst word. And the vast majority of us save it for talking lovingly of our own cunt, in a ‘reclaim the word’ sort of way, or for someone who is just fucking awful. Like those cunts at the daily fucking mail.

        • Daniel

          And on the Tory front bench.

          And back benches.

        • KillerMartinis

          yeah that’s about the way I heard it most.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Like dick, but with much more bite…

          • Teecha

            Dick is about a 5 on the swear scale.

          • aureolaborealis

            Well, of course. Dicks don’t have teeth.

          • Celtic_Gnome

            You can say dick on teevee now.

    • wait! what?

      It’s not adequate.

      #thundercunt

    • Grumpy Twat

      I think it depends a lot on context and tone. When I worked in a warehouse with mostly male colleagues who had a low level of education and limited expectations for the future (ie never expecting to be anything but broke) cunt was a completely unremarkable word. It was quite normal to call your mate a daft cunt in a cheery manner.
      I would not dream of speaking to my educated middle class neighbours like that, though.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    “You thought I was kidding, but here is a picture of our very own Dom lying in a gutter”

    Go Dom! I was a TV news guy back in teh day – sometimes you gotta get filthy!

    My fave was the tine I cane back from a fire at a house that was being built covered in mud – cause dirt lot and fucking firehoses.

    There was also the tine I brought the vehicle back withe entire front end covered in mud, but that was me and an army PIO having a liitle fun on a military training ground.

    • Vendetta
      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        nah, just about a good time. Trolly mctrollerson.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Fail troll is fail.

        • redarmyzombie

          On the scale of Trolling, I give it a resounding “eh…”

          • MynameisBlarney

            Yup.
            Trolls these days…
            FEH!

            Back in MY day, trolls were at least entertaining.

          • wait! what?

            I hear their dying in Europe because of rabies.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Rabies?
            Nah!
            I heard they were all dying from severe cases of butt-rot.

      • The Wanderer

        What? This is what you call trolling? You’re not even worth giving to the Pantomime Horse.

    • Getting dirty is my favorite part. It reminds me that I’m actually doing my job.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        I often think of getting dirty as playing…

        • Celtic_Gnome

          I grew up on a farm. I equate getting dirty with hard work.

  • Covfefe

    No, there is no limit on the number of broken taillights you can find in a day. Some people say the cops break the taillight with a flashlight, or something, on the way to the driver’s window.

    • Teecha

      Wouldn’t it be great if you could replace the glass/plastic with some sort of rubber, so that anyone attempting to smash the light had to deal with the rebound of their smashing implement on their leg?

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Into their trachea – or teeth – would make a better impression…

      • aureolaborealis

        Real or imagined assault on a police officer. That comes with a summary roadside execution in many parts of our great nation.

  • Baconzgood

    Photographers are a wacky bunch. I have done a lot of crazy shit to get the shot too also.

    • TJ Barke

      Can’t let those moments be lost, like tears in rain…

      • Baconzgood

        Not if you use film.

      • Lord Jim

        [dove ascends]

    • Hollandaise

      I was foolish enough to marry one.

      • Marion in Savannah

        [mmmm… Hollandaise… YUM!]

        • Hollandaise

          That’s what he said.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            I just learnt last week that in West Canuckistan they call eggs with hollandaise bennies…

    • That’s part of the fun!

      “Oh, a thingy! I shall climb it!”

      • Baconzgood

        “It will be a spectacular shot”

  • Good to know Dom was getting an edgy POV shot and not reverting to the fetal position, as I am wont to do.

    • :)

    • pstokk

      I was in a gutter once, speaking of shots.

    • Notreelyhelping

      Somehow, when you hold a camera to your eye, it’s all happening Out There. You feel like it can’t touch you. This sensation quickly ends when something shoves you to the ground, but, until then, you live inside this illusion. It’s pretty cool until you realize how close you’ve come to the edge.

    • guest1331now

      When I first saw it I thot he had been hit or kicked — a relief to know he was just crazy to do his job great!

  • TJ Barke

    If herpes was a person, it would be our current little troll.

  • Crystalclear12

    What do you say that isn’t a cliché?
    We are better than this. Apparently not.
    It’s just a few bad apples. Since we aren’t willing to pick out the bad apples that doesn’t really help.

    So angry at my state right now!

    • Celtic_Gnome

      A few bad apples has been perverted by these fuckwads. They say it to mean that it’s only a small percentage of the whole group. If you remember the actual quote, it means that if you don’t root out these problems, they will spread until they infect the entire group.

      A few bad apples is a major, major problem.

  • bubbuhh
  • bubbuhh
  • proudgrampa

    Speaking of Taking Names:

    https://youtu.be/1WnsDwfU8fc

  • ariel_gee_398

    I mean, if it’s protecting your pension and serving white supremacy, you’re still technically abiding by the slogan. St. Louis police have just found themselves a little loophole.

    • Spurning Beer

      “To Protect and Sever”

  • Crystalclear12

    OT I go away and sulk for few days and come back and read stories like this:
    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/fox-news-has-already-forgiven-bill-oreilly/

    • Three Finger Salute

      Too white, rich, and perverted to fail. Yay America.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    i sliced my finger open, so here i am still waiting for it to stop. so in the meantime:

    AUSTIN — A federal appeals court on Monday ruled that some provisions of Texas’ ban on so-called sanctuary cities can go into effect, partially lifting a Texas judge’s order that blocked key provisions of the law.

    A three-judge panel of the U.S. Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals found that two provisions blocked by U.S. District Judge Orlando Garcia in August created “no significant injury to the plaintiffs,” but did cause “irreparable injury to Texas,” and that other elements of the law could survive if some of the language is altered.

    • Johnatx

      Well, nuts. Not unexpected, but still Damn it

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        still not pernanent – only temp, paper says 5th cir. will hear oral argunents later – then theres always scotus

        • Lord Jim

          SCOTUS, you say?

          We’re doomed.

    • Parakeetist

      Ouch sry

  • Spurning Beer

    Thank you, Linda and Dom. I’m totally bummed out, but thanks.

    • KillerMartinis

      Have us over for dinner anytime, we will totally not ruin a party, nope not at all!

    • Beanz&Berryz

      I couldn’t figure out how to say totally bummed out…

  • Bad Tom

    a homeless man walking out of a gas station with six bottles of water to give to protesters. I asked him how much he’d spent, and he told me “everything I had.”

    That homeless man exhibits more of the Spirit of Christ than all the evangelicals in all the megachurches on all the TV channels.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Amen.

      • Holly

        Sister.

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  • Holly

    I can’t even begin to wrap my head around what’s happening in this country kids. Trump and the MAGA wearing haters are totally to blame for all of this hate. ALL OF IT! Every single one who voted for this guy is to blame. ALL OF THEM! They own the violence equally. They own the division of this country. They own every death and every injury. They own their complete disregard for our Constitution and especially the willful ignorance of the FIRST AMENDMENT! FFS I’m exhausted already.

    • OutOfOrbit

      they donut care about any of that stuff

      • Holly

        They will if we keep holding their feet to the proverbial fire and make them own their ass ignorant shit. It’ll take work and it’ll take time but these deplorables will go down on the wrong side of history.

        • guest1331now

          I agree with ‘keep holding’ i.e. keep educating and telling the truth, but don’t underestimate the stubbornness of this arrogant stupidity — it is millenia old and will not go away soon.

          • Holly

            I know and that’s what irks the hell outta me. It’s just to damn ugly now.

  • Three Finger Salute

    Don’t look now, but the Shit Heel State might have another Kristallnacht in the waiting

    Another Charlottesville is descending on North Carolina

    OK, what exactly is “communism” that they’re marching against? Seems to me that in America, it’s defined as just being a decent person. Hence why Canada is unofficially designated a communist dictatorship in what passes for conservative “thought.” How dare he, Justin Castreau has the damn nerve not to choke Muslim women with their own hijab or use Sophie as his own personal punching bag. Card-carrying Trotskyite!

    • SayItWithWookies

      Maybe they’ve decided that if they march against an imaginary threat, nobody’ll counter-protest? It’s certainly going to garner less outrage than a march against taking down racist statues.

      • Three Finger Salute

        It’s not imaginary to them. What they define as communism is the same old dog-whistle as before. As someone pointed out in the RS article’s non-comment section, civil rights activists, labor activists and other members of the disadvantaged groups agitating for the recognition of their basic humanity were all lumped together as communists. So too were politicians who took sympathy for, and action on, their plight in one way or another. The Kennedys among them, FDR, Carter. Basically, liberals. Also too, (((cosmopolitan globalists))) and we all know what that means. First they came for the parentheses.

        Remember “Obammunism”? Hillary’s pant suits being likened to Kim Duck Dong and Chairman Mao? The hardcore left hates pragmatic centrists, which is what they are, and their foreign equivalents like Trudeau, Macron and Merkel. But to the lunatic fringe that mainlines Fox and which is marching at this event, because Obama had a tan birthday suit and didn’t think people should go bankrupt from paying medical bills for cancer treatment, that made him a Soviet dictator in the waiting.

        This is a march against “communism” a catch-all term for progress and liberal activism. The fact that they’re calling it Anticom means they’ve flipped the “antifa” term on its head. They’re profa, and they’re profane. All these portmanteaus are disturbingly Orwellian in nature. Ingsoc, meet Amerfa.

      • guest1331now

        Maybe we could all wear BLM shirts and march with them chanting ‘just say no to Uncle Joe’ (Stalin) ‘yes to universal healthcare’ — communism objectively sucks in most of its iterations, and we love ‘freedoms’ so it might work — a ‘no Joe’ symbol (face of stalin under the ‘don’t’ sign) on the front of the shirt and BLM, Single Payer, Hillary, Obama, Impeach Orange Mussolini, etc. on the backs and on our hats?

        • guest1331now

          ‘Don’t beat ’em, join ’em and fuck up their thing.’

    • The Wanderer

      “Card-carrying Trotskyite!”

      Fourth Internationalist libel.

    • jesterpunk

      They are phrasing it as anti communism so they can claim anyone who protests is for communism and is Anti-American. The right is really good at simple branding.

      • guest1331now

        ‘branding for the simple’ — sigh — ok, all together, ‘truth overcomes propaganda’.

        • jesterpunk

          Really? The last election kind of proved that propaganda wins over truth.

  • Johnatx

    This is powerful writing. Thank you and Dom for your journalism.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    St. Charles County was a nice place 60 years ago…small towns, farms, friendly downtown stores, rolling rural landscapes, pretty rivers, some great plant nurseries. My aunt and uncle lived there for 20 years, so I knew it well. Then the White Flight started, and now it is acre after acre of manicured middle- and upper-middle class subdivisions, all with seemingly identical white siding and expensive privacy fences. It has become the kind of place where the subdivision covenants ban chain-link fences, because “tacky” and you have to get the HOA’s permission to paint your front door because you might want to paint it a color that they don’t like, such as turquoise (this happened to a friend of mine). It is Stepford House territory. You have to drive across the Missouri River (it’s a BIG river) to get to work in St. Louis, and what this does to your commute time if just one car breaks down on the bridge or the interstate is insane. I wouldn’t live there if you paid me to.

  • wait! what?

    What type of camera went into battle; did it hold up?

  • Christopher Story

    Damnit Missouri. Get your fucking shit together. “Show me” a reason why I should be proud to be your son.

    • redarmyzombie

      *crickets*

      • Christopher Story

        The calm between the riots

  • Edith Prickly

    Well, there’s another city I will stay the fuck away from forever. Thanks for venturing into the belly of the beast for our edification.

    • OutOfOrbit

      a lot of fucked-uppedness in mahzurruh

    • Three Finger Salute

      I don’t get out much if at all, but if I were traveling I’d stay the fuck away from the whole goddamn South. Actually, the one travel map I’d bring with me is this one

      https://intf.nyt.com/newsgraphics/elections/2016/assets/screenshots/president-leader-margin.png

      Avoid any place in red or pink. There’s blood in the water there.

      • I hate to give Chris Matthews too much credit, but on one of his shows last week he made a very strong case for improving transportation in this country, so that there will be no more “fly-over country.” Look at that map. Also, factor in that you can get on a train in Shanghai, and be in Beijing in 5 hours (820-ish miles). Going on a train from New York to Chicago (900-ish miles)? That’ll be at least 22 hours, if you make it at all.

        As someone who is a hard-core northeast resident, I suppose I shouldn’t talk. But, he really has a great point. There should be NO fly-over country. And politicians have to get their heads out of their asses and make transportation infrastructure a priority.

        • therblig

          ms. blig and blig jr have taken the train from NYC to Erie PA on occasion. you can drive it in about 7 hours, but via train, it takes 13 or more (the last time it took more because a mudslide had taken out a portion of track and they had to divert and follow another train).

          i’m pretty sure that tax cuts for the rich will trickle down and greatly help our (word association *) infrastructure.

          * crumbling, of course

        • Three Finger Salute

          Yeah, but that would require investment in communities, rather than tax cuts for billionaires. Can Koch Industries profit from it in a way that no one else benefits from it? If not, it’s a nonstarter.

          • Boojum

            See? Like Nockular cavity said: Communism.

        • Nockular cavity

          Don’t you know? Public transportation is communism.

      • SisterArtemis

        If I recall, the dark blue areas are generally the large cities. Nice to see my own Lane County, a mix of liberal and conservative because it bridges a big area from the coast to the Cascades, with Eugene in the middle, a nice light blue. Would love it to be dark blue, but the East and West edges are more conservative than the middle.

        • Three Finger Salute

          It’s nice to hear that those locations are proudly moving into the 21st century, but it’s troubling in terms of electoral prospects for Democrats. It means that the rural-urban, coastal-inland divide has reached fever pitch and we really are the party of “big-city elites.”

          Thanks to gerrymandering and the electoral college, hicks in some population-40 corn field in Nebraska which is 100% white and married to their cousins, hold just as much if not more sway over the direction of the country than L.A., NYC, Cambridge or the light-blue counties like you mentioned in the Pacific Northwest and isolated pockets down South.

          There’s only a smattering of blueberries in that giant blob of cherries, and it’ll only get worse and more isolated due to electoral tampering by the cornered-animal GOP, which is using every trick in the book to ensure that America becomes a de facto apartheid state where those filthy, globalist, P.C. cosmopolitans get “trumped” by Cletus and his 12-year-old sister wife.

          All of it in service to Koch & co., of course. Republicans are just as “globalist” (multinational corporate investments and shell accounts in the Caymans and Switzerland) and “big city folk” as their agitprop accuses Hollywood, universities and those with “New York values” to be. They only “care” about Cletus inasmuch as he’s a useful idiot to shit on the racial minorities deemed their lessers — and also the educated people who can see through and call out their corruption and BS.

          “Don’t look at him; don’t look at me. Look at that uppity black Q.B. He’s taking your job, and he’s taking a knee! And he’s got friends in high places with a Ph.D.” -Charlie and Dave

  • Arolpin

    St. Louis has historically been a western city, but since the 60s it has turned more and more into a southern city, with all the hatred and racism. My dad grew up in Clayton, and went to slightly integrated schools (probably because Clayton had a large Jewish population and there were a lot of progressive Jews at the time) but he also hung out in East St. Louis (because that’s what rich, trouble-making kids in STL did then, crossed the river to drink and gamble) before the riots in the late ’60s pretty much destroyed East St. Louis.
    After college (proud WashU dropout) several of my friends ended up working for campaigns for progressive Democrats, who lost close elections. These were young, educated candidates, and while the elections were close, they were still losses. I don’t think any of those candidates would even be competitive statewide now, because it’s been such a radical shift to the right.
    If we want to really look at the causes, it probably goes back to the 19th Century, when the City of St. Louis split off from the St. Louis County, because they didn’t want to pay to support the country (needed roads built, etc). This made sense in the 1870s, especially since the link below shows that in 1870 a lot of the minority population was in the county, by the 1880 census it was concentrated in the city itself, and then slowly spread to the country, and eventually even into St. Charles county by the 1990 census.
    As more and more of the wealth of the region shifted to the suburbs, especially after the civil unrest and resulting white-flight of the 60s & 70s, the city itself found itself short of money to run the city that supported the entire region. This led to fewer services, rising crime, falling property values, etc and also let to the belief that inner cities are dying.
    St. Louis has historically been one of the most segregated cities in the country, and it’s gotten worse recently with everything north of Delmar being 90% minority and everything south of I-40 being about 80% white, with a sliver of integrated areas between I-40 & Delmar.
    Add in the loss of manufacturing jobs (St. Louis: First in Booze, First in Shoes, Last in the American League), which meant that non-college educated people fell out of the middle class, a resurgent strain of racism, and an extreme loss of national status (in the late 19th century St. Louis & Chicago were of roughly equal importance) all lead to an uptick in racism.
    I still have friends in the area (and they generally live in the Central West End, LaFayette Square, or downtown) but I find very little reason to visit anymore. I don’t see anything that is going to change the outcome for St. Louis unless they get lucky and have some new industry settle there. They’ve lost a lot of aircraft manufacturing (MD), an airline hub (TWA), food/pet food production (Ralston-Purina) and what they have left isn’t really a great draw (Monsanto, energy companies, probably TraitorFlag factories).
    They still have a couple good colleges, and it’s a low-cost city (college friends from the NE loved the fact that they could rent huge 4-BR apartments in the CWE for less than the price of a studio in NYC), so maybe they’ll try and draw liberal east coast college students and get them to stay. (WashU isn’t helping when almost every student there is wealthy, and while they have a not-entirely-terrrible percentage of lower-income students, they have very few middle-class kids there, so not doing much to bridge the divide.) Hopefully SLU and other colleges are better at this.
    On a more positive note, they have both fried raviolis and Ted Drewes Frozen Custard, both of which are truly delightful. Just don’t try the cardboard and ketchup abomination that they call St. Louis Style Pizza.
    http://mcdc-maps.missouri.edu/MOminority1810-2010/index.html

    • Courser_Resistance

      Thanks for the explainer on St. Louis. I’ve never been there so it’s nice to know some history that informs what’s happening now.

    • guest1331now

      One polite objection — stop calling racism a ‘southern sort of thing’ — yes, it has been the most virulent here at times, but the volunteer fire chief who just internet-blurted (i.e. face-sharted) that the Steelers coach is ‘a no-good n*****’ is in Pennsylvania, not Alabama. Our First Racist and orange mussolini is a New Yorker. The biggest ‘race riots’ have happened in LA, Detroit, NYC, etc. for a reason (‘reasons’). Murderous white-on-black riots have happened in Chicago, Omaha and Tulsa as well as Atlanta. And so on. Wherever you are in the US, the problem is in your own back yard, not just ‘the South’

      • Arolpin

        You are correct, racism is everywhere. I still think SYSTEMIC racism is more prevalent in the south, but personal racism ignores geography. (Source: Personal experience; I have lived in CA, ID, MO, TN, FL, NY, & NJ, from rural ‘towns’ with 20 families to cities of 8million).

        • guest1331now

          I am not informed enough to comment on systemic racism, N vs. S., but I think it is pretty systemic in a lot of Northern (edit & Western etc.) cities too! And yes, there is still a lot of personal bigot-stupidity here, but also (perhaps because of soul-searching and remorse?) in some places more ‘consciousness’ and more just-human-behavior. For instance, I have mixed-race in-law relatives (here in Arkansas) and pretty much no one gives a shit; being overtly racist is uncool in most places. Unconscious racism, of course, persists, which is why I think human-consciousness is actually higher among some Southerners — that remorse-self-examination thang.

        • Catstro

          I rather think that having a police department where racism is rampant (the LAPD and NYPD, such as) goes beyond personal racism. Not to mention the Justice system in the US, in general, everywhere.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Oh, don’t even get me started on New York. Bernard Goetz his revenge on the subway, then Goetz a slap on the wrist for it. Trump never apologized to those wrongfully convicted young men either. The Central Park Five. He took out a full-page ad in his favorite paper, the New York Compost, calling for them to get the death penalty immediately. He and his old man tried to find ways of not having to rent to blacks by using coded language like “income level,” “criminal history,” etc. They basically gentrified Manhattan so much it would make Peter Stuyvesant jealous, and of course Dotard failed spectacularly while doing it.

          All that being said, they are still a thriving metropolis where the U.N. is headquartered and Lady Liberty is, for now at least, calling to the huddled masses who yearn to breathe free. Too bad for the U.N. that they have to suffer the indignity of having a series of Nazi-owned hotel chains intentionally situated in in their backyard. Let alone that they had to suffer the Nazi who owns them making a fucking sales pitch for said hotels during his speech as president of the United States.

          They should temporarily shut down their U.S. location and relocate for the time being in Paris.

          • guest1331now

            Personally, I think of Trump more in connection with the more hapless Italian facisti than with Nazis — orange mussolini.

          • Three Finger Salute

            He is disturbingly proud of his German heritage and apparently used to keep a book of Hitler’s speeches by his bedside. Also too, a former employee (or maybe it was the guy who wrote his books) once said that “as a joke,” Drumpf used to require his underlings to click their heels together and say “Heil Hitler!” when entering his office or passing him in the halls.

            He’s very much a Boy from Brazil.

        • george lastrapes

          And the reflexive blanket condemnation of southerners is the kind of divisive BS that is right out of the RW/Putin playbook.

          • guest1331now

            Lolouch, maybe it’s why we in the South sometimes ‘get’ racism better than other whites — we know what it feels like to be negatively stereotyped (e.g. ‘O Brother Where Art Thou’ — ‘No Country’ on the other hand is pretty clean … ). Education, education, education.

        • alpacapunchbowl

          Milwaukee (my hometown) and Chicago (my adoptive hometown) are two of the most segregated cities in the country.
          Definitely not just a southern thing.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Also too, Massachusetts. The Southie busing riots of the seventies, a black Orioles player having peanuts thrown at him by a racist Red Sox fan, and a parks and wreck commissioner in the very diverse city of Brockton who told Patriots players taking a knee before this Sunday’s game to “Dance, monkey!”

        https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/dance-monkey-massachusetts-official-slammed-for-racial-attack-against-protesting-patriots-players/

        Don’t forget the Trump twunts who beat a homeless Mexican man to within an inch of his life during the campaign season and yelled at him, “Donald Trump is right! All these illegals need to be deported!”

        https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/08/20/after-two-brothers-allegedly-beat-homeless-man-one-them-admiringly-quote-donald-trump-deporting-illegals/I4NXR3Dr7litLi2NB4f9TN/story.html

        Trump’s response was that his fans are “passionate.” He never condemned their actions. If the GOP had any moral character he would have been disqualified from the primaries and kicked out of the party altogether. But, we know they don’t, and the rest is history.

        • guest1331now

          Thanks.

        • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

          Never forget. The poor whites are the most eager to shit on the Other, because if they don’t shit on the Other they will become the Other. The only way in which the “economic populism” bullshit makes any sense at all.

      • george lastrapes

        Actual fact: Texas has got more proglibs in it than Massachusetts.

  • The British position on the word ‘cunt’:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m7lKiCO2UE

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Lord Jim

      Outed as a David Duke backer, eh?

      Because of course.

      Good to see you back, Blarney.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Thanks, glad to be back.

    • Boojum

      “Ungrateful”. Yeah, there’s nothing dog whistley about that.

  • Lord Jim

    So it seems “This user is blocked” is back. Sad that he can find no more fulfilling activities than trolling this mommy warblog and recipe hub. Go read a book. I’m finding What Happened to be excellent.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    The two football players who lived across the hall from me when I was an undergrad were from East St. Louis. They both identified the Cincinnati area, generally, and Hamilton, specifically, as the most racist place they’d ever been. That was before Barry Bamz invented racism, though.

  • NotALiar

    God I wish we had a real president and a real A.G.

    • Gerald Parks

      We do …..they are real bad! Really really bad!

  • Nockular cavity

    The Show Me Your Middle Finger State.

  • alpacapunchbowl

    Everything about the situation in St. Louis is awful, but for some reason what I find the most profoundly disturbing is the fucking COPS ON PATROL chanting “Whose streets? Our streets!”
    Nothin’ fascist and brownshirt-esque about that. Nope.

    • SullivanSt

      The night before (I think) it was cops wearing actual black shirts chasing down and marching over a 60 year old woman then (violently) arresting her for “interfering” by getting under their boots. Every bit the squadristi.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        I saw that video. Absolutely disgusting. And terrifying.

  • guest1331now

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA

    ahh, there is a reckoning, friends

  • Bitter Scribe

    Isn’t St. Louis the most white-flighty big city in the nation? I mean, isn’t there an actual county line around the city to make it easier to fuck with legislatively? I live in Chicago, which is no bastion of racial tolerance, but even we didn’t go quite that far.

    • KillerMartinis

      Yup.

  • guest1331now

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJlN9jdQFSc

    ‘go tell that long-tongued liar’

  • limeonaire

    It’s “Delmar Boulevard.” Please fix. It’s really distracting to have this mistake in the lede. Thanks.

    • KillerMartinis

      Ah you’re so right, on it, thanks!

      • limeonaire

        Thank you! It’s a great piece, so that just stuck out to me. √

        • KillerMartinis

          I mean and I was staying on skinker and delmar so I stared at that damn sign for weeks, too, I have no idea where that came from!

  • alpacapunchbowl

    One of my aunts told me about attending some kind of work conference in Chicago in the late 60s. She and some of her coworkers ended up getting dinner at a fancyish restaurant with some conference attendees from St. Louis. The St. Louis contingent was apparently openly and unabashedly shocked and dismayed to see black folks eating at a nice restaurant and not being shunned. So I guess this is nothing new.
    I’ve always thought this place seems awesome, but the fuck if I’m going to STL.
    https://www.citymuseum.org

    • Buzz1313

      A friend of mine went to St Louis in the early 90’s on road trip with a friend of his. Two white guys both, they popped into a local McDonald’s and noticed something: all the black people were on one side of the restaurant and all the whites another. These two sat on the black side. Missouri was a slave holding Union State during the Civil War. Make of that what you will…

      • alpacapunchbowl

        Speaks volumes, doesn’t it.
        I have some friends from STL, they attest that it’s pretty bad.
        Missouri could use a 21st century Samuel Clemens.

    • Benjamin West

      Hopefully, the detail that one of St. Louis’s MO state reps, Bruce Franks Jr, helps lead these protests, is evidence of some progress made. (City treasurer and various alderpersons also march in the protests, too.)

      • alpacapunchbowl

        Baby steps. There’s a long way to go, hell, we all have a long way to go. But I’ll take signs of hope where I can get them.
        What can I say, daffodils are probably my favorite flower, not because they’re particularly special, but when you see the first buds peeking through in spring, it means we made it through another winter.

  • Benjamin West

    Note that the St. Louis police are more commonly known as SLMPD. Unless you mean officers from one of the thousands of municipalities that ring the city, in Missouri’s earnest attempt to literally demonstrate balkanization. In which case you get SCCPD,
    SLCPD, CPD, KPD, and Ferguson’s department, commonly known as F(tha)PD.

    • KillerMartinis

      that’s one of the things I was trying to figure out how to jam into a piece without making it a longform before I gave up and did vignettes. You just can’t explain this place in a blog.

      • Benjamin West

        Understood. I guess local readers will just have to wonder why all this bad behavior by unexpected visitors from the Storm Lake, Soap Lake, San Luis, Sugar Land, and Sri Lanka PD’s.

      • starfanglednut

        Have you considered pitching a longer piece somewhere? I bet it’d be amazing.

        • KillerMartinis

          I’m writing a series over at talkpoverty at least!

  • georgiaburning

    St Charles County website lists starting salary for police at about $55K. Santa Clara County (CA) is over $90K. Yes, there’s a big cost of living difference but not 60%. Maybe you get what you pay for.

  • Canned Covfefe

    KM, this is why I come to Wonkette every day, multiple times a day. Consistently good writing and enough snark, humor and cute animals to keep from tottering over the edge.
    I have seen some of the most moving writing here. This is one of those pieces. Acutely observational and when I am sure I can’t take one more bit you bring back beauty and humanity. Those bring me hope. Thank you.

    BTW, I’m not crying, you’re crying.

  • Manders

    I’ve only been to Saint Louis once, in high school as part of an academic team trip. I ha a great time at Washington U. I also saw my first live cockroach.

    I mentioned to our student coordinator that I’d seen a big fucking cockroach (sans swears, because I was a square), and she was like, “Oh, no, honey, that’s a palmetto bug!” And I’ve given St. Louis the side-eye ever since.

    On a less light note, thank you for this sad and excellent story.

    • you aren’t missing much.

      • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

        you arent missing anything

        fify, hope ya dont mind

    • hendenburg2

      I heard that same excuse in Nashville

    • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

      palmetto bug?…lived in the stl area all my life, and have never heard that…also, i challenge anyone to find a palmetto around here

    • Panika MCD

      palmetto bugs are not genetically part of the roach family. calling them roaches is roach libel. roaches tend to be a whole lot cleaner.

  • ken_kukec

    “White people held a demonstration outside a Billy Joel concert, which is such a very interesting thing that I will leave it to you to editorialize …”

    I doubt they’ve been stranded in the combat zone, or walked through Bedford Stuy alone.

  • http://www.stltoday.com/opinion/mailbag/is-a-drug-dealer-hall-of-fame-next-for-st/article_bcca827b-049d-5ea8-bb08-caab7df59a86.html#tncms-source=infinity-scroll-summary-siderail-latest

    Friday night, I saw coverage of the Board of Aldermen and the mayor honoring Anthony Lamar Smith. After watching this, I was just wondering where the drug dealer hall of fame was going to be located, since they now have their first inductee, and if it was going to be paid for with tax dollars or drug proceeds?

    Jeffrey Kilgariff • O’Fallon, Mo.

    • KillerMartinis

      What a fucking prick.

    • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

      forget it, ja…dom–it’s st louis…..

    • NoJusticeNoPeace1964

      Wasn’t Freddie Gray the first inductee? He has a Community Center named after him. The Movement does respect it’s heroin dealers.

      • (((Aron)))

        Why the locked account profile, coward?

        Got something to hide?

  • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

    >>Oh, and it’s where the white flight settled<<

    that is the most diplomatic way ive seen, of saying that st charles mo is the whitest, probably most racist place in the midwest…i live in the metro-east of STL (in IL, folks) and you couldnt pay me enough to live in that racist hillbilly shithole of st chuck–and lemme tell ya, the metro east has no shortage of hillbilly racists

    it is literally the richmond, va or orania (capetown) of the midwest…fuck st chuck

    • Sakonyachen

      Gotta say, I grew up in Belleville and I was not ready for the racism St. Charles had to offer. We were on 60 minutes twice for a task force that pulls over East St. Louis residents that cross into the city, but the racism isn’t as strong as St. Charles.

      • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

        i remember those 60 minutes shows—yeah, i did my time in b-ville, early-mid 80’s….didnt like it either…i’d say it’s right behind st chuck on my list of places not to be

  • Hardly Ideal

    Hardly Ideal turns his gaze from his vanilla milkshake to the protests outside, alarmed by the chants of “who’s streets? Our streets!” The blood drained from his already pasty face when he realized it was police in riot gear leading the chant.

    “Fuckin’ white people,” he whispered hoarsely as he slid away to a safer spot.

    • (((Aron)))

      Did you at least finish the milkshake?

      If not, may I?

  • NoJusticeNoPeace1964

    This story says that everything should be pro-black and approved by The Movement. Memo to the movement, people weren’t buying what you were selling in 2016.

    But keep it up, since a doubling down of Leftist BS will result in certain losses in 2018, and 2020.

    • RocketManCaptainHowdy

      FOAD

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      Just out of curiosity – if your side’s ideas and support are so strong, why do you have to keep employing antidemocratic tactics like gerrymandering and voter suppression to maintain your tenuous hold on power? Surely people would flock to the GOP’s banner if it were in their interest to do so. Why was the GOP so terrified of writing a proper healthcare bill, with hearings, bipartisan amendments and a proper CBO score? For that matter, how is it possible that after 7 years they did not have some kind of a draft bill in the first place? Why does the GOP continually employ antidemocratic parliamentary measures to prevent the government from operating as it is meant to? Is that not a blatant abrogation of their responsibility, once elected, to govern the country? Why do you continually misrepresent things in such an obvious manner? Everyone with half a brain knows that the protests are NOT against the flag, or the national anthem, but against entrenched, systemic racism. But of course you can’t call it what it is -you have to lie to whip your base into a rage frenzy.

      Trump lost the popular vote by three million. Without gerrymandering and other underhanded tactics that you will hope to get away with thanks to Mitch McConnell’s reprehensible refusal to hold confirmation hearings on Merrick Garland, you would be SOL in the Congress as well. You are the party of lies, greed, racism, incompetence, stupidity, ignorance and hypocrisy. Go hump someone else’s leg. There are no takers for your facile bullshit here.

      • LeighBowery’sLuxuryComedy

        ALL THEE UPVOTEZ

    • (((Aron)))

      Everything SHOULD be pro-black. Period.

      • Right? Is the moran saying it is conservative to be anti black?
        It is sure looking like he is right out admitting that. Nice of them to drop the dog whistles.

    • I was wondering if you had better things to do than to be a racist Internet troll, or a robot, but apparently not.

      • (((Aron)))

        Admittedly, being a robot would be pretty flipping cool.

        But not a racist robot. Nobody likes those. Much less a racist robot troll.

        Beep boop.

    • SullivanSt

      If people aren’t buying it, why do you have to tell barefaced lies about what’s on sale?

    • Let me guess: You, like Trump, cannot read.

    • Gascoigne

      St. Charles is where I grew up buddy, went to Benton School, T. L. Hardin Junior High, and St. Charles High, class of ’83. My family background is poor white Texas and Oklahoma trash.
      I am so lucky to have went to Benton Elementary in the 70s, because that is where I met black people for the first time. If I had continued to live in rural Oklahoma and Texas while growing up, I probably would have turned into a chickenshit racist prick like so many of my relatives in “Texahoma.”
      One of the finest people that I grew up with and went to school with, from elementary to high school, was a black dude. Everybody, and I mean everybody, loved this guy to pieces, everybody wanted to be this dude’s friend. Except, of course, the stupid stoner racist douchebags, of whom I was a little bit too familiar with.
      I can tell you true, St. Charles is a racist fucking town. How do I know? Just go to that breakfast joint on Kingshighway, that old Dogs ‘n Suds across from St. Charles High. I’ve heard young and middle aged white dudes say the meanest shit to an elderly black woman bussing tables, like “Get to work!” and “What are you doing taking a break? Get to work!” Zero fucking respect for their elders.
      Another memorable and outrageous incident, so depressingly typical of St. Charles, was from the flood of ’93, when I stopped and got out of my pickup on the “New Bridge” across the Missouri to marvel at the flood waters. A fellow freak saw me, slowed down, and yelled out “We need to get all them n@@@@@s from St. Louis and dam the river with ’em. That’ll fix them n@@@@@s!”
      Thank God I live in Columbia.

      • (((Aron)))

        Thank you for your stories!

        I’m sorry you had to experience such profound meanness :(

        • Gascoigne

          Thanks. I’m so sick of chickenshit white people who soil their pants all day over nothings and believe in the silliest shit imaginable.
          Much of the rural countryside of Missouri (which I adore) is inhabited by goobers. I dislike calling them that, but that’s the truth of it. Even one of my college buddies, himself a college professor now, has mindlessly spouted off “educated” racist nonsense: slavery improved the black genetic stock because weaklings were eliminated. That’s why black people are good at sports.
          I Am Not Making This Up!
          That just goes to show that “education” is no defense against this seemingly ineradicable BS.
          I am extremely fortunate in having Beatnik parents: they marched for civil rights in the early 60s while going to North Texas State in Denton. My Dad got fired from a teaching job in Burkburnett TX in the late 60s because his hair was growing over the tops of his ears. And for wearing sandals.

          • (((Aron)))

            Sandals are usually a fireable offense for most jobs ;)

          • Gascoigne

            Dad had just went up to the school on a Saturday morning to get something out of his classroom.
            He ran into the principal in the hallway.

          • (((Aron)))

            You’re kidding. Please tell me you’re kidding?

          • Gascoigne

            I am not kidding.

          • (((Aron)))

            Wow. And I thought *I* had some tough bosses in my time.

          • Princess Erika the Radiant

            only if you wear them to court ;)

          • (((Aron)))

            What if they are court sandals????

          • Princess Erika the Radiant

            there are courts around here who are so backwards they would hold women in contempt for wearing pants – i’m not about ready to try wearing sandals

    • Jonny On Maui

      No, this story shows what happens when those who are supposed to protect only protect one part of society and attack the rest.

      This is not only about color but also humanity. You would profit from considering joining.

      • They do not protect and serve anymore.
        They uphold the power class.
        They are not police: They are paid thugs.

        • Gascoigne

          The police in St. Charles and St. Louis are fucking dangerous pricks.
          As a minor in the 80s, I spent a night in the St. Charles jail. My buddy, who was “legally an adult” received a beating and a cracked head. His parents were nobodies and the cops could get away with it. What saved me, I suspect, was that my Dad was a teacher.
          When I was a bit older, a group of us got searched for weed (we were doing donuts in the snow in two cars in the parking lot of Coverdell School). A member of the one percent was with us, and we told this dipshit to stuff his weed next to his nutsack, like the rest of us, but the rich dude put his weed in his boot.
          If course the cop found it. We were busted and going to jail. Then the cop saw the rich dude driver’s license, and his eyes about bugged out of his head. He let us go, but he made the rich dude empty his half-ounce into the snow.
          The next day, me and a buddy of mine went to the previous night’s scene and scooped up a free half-ounce of primo shit!

  • When precisely do we stop calling them Police and start calling them what they are:
    Thugs.

    • merl1

      Silly bear, only black people are thugs.

    • javadavis

      Been doing that. But I have no power, so no impact. Grassroots power of many?

  • meanlawyermom

    I am so angry about this. Then I read the part about the homeless man buying water for the protesters and I’m boohoo crying. Thank you and Dom for this!

    • Truly Madly Derply

      God, me too. I weep for humanity and for that man’s humane-ity.

    • Thanks!

  • Zyxomma

    Thanks, killermartinis and Dom.

  • Celtic_Gnome

    I understand that a travel advisory has been issued for Missouri specifically for minorities.

  • Lily412

    Wow. I hadn’t even heard this was happening because all anyone ever talks about it whatever dumb crap fell out of Trump’s mouth this week.

    ETA: Especially love the guy covering his face with his tiny sign. Maybe if you’re afraid to own up to your opinions, that’s because your opinions are indefensible…and deep down you must know it.

  • Morsum me

    St. Louis city (and county… aw hell, tack on St. Charles county too, since it’s part of the same blob) sealed its fate with Dred Scott. They haven’t looked back since. The “irony” of the counties’ attitude is that this is all part of their original plan. They split up the city into a million little fiefdoms by incorporating any subdivision they could the moment they saw a black man walk down the street. Don’t believe me? Would you believe multiple “towns” in the city with populations lower than 100? Would you believe one even has a population of 12? If you expand that number to 1,000 residents, there are over 20(!) “towns” with fewer residents.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipalities_of_St._Louis_County,_Missouri

    To add to the weirdness, St. Louis city isn’t in a county at all. It’s one of America’s three so-called “independent cities”. So “independent” is the city that until very recently its police force was controlled by the state capital!

    Stuff just gets weirder in St. Louis (and the state of Missouri). They take the idea of “local control” to its logical conclusion. There is no state law banning smoking, for example. It’s a patchwork of fiefdom laws. You can smoke in one bar and cross the street and not be able to smoke. There is no state law that prohibits open liquor in an automobile, but some (but not all) of the fiefdoms have local laws about it. They are an open carry state (because of course they are… which had me wondering if part of the police’s behavior is in part due to everyone and their brother walking around with rifles)

    This madness goes on and on. And that’s precisely they way they like it. The pearl-clutchers in the county (and St. Charles county) are constantly on their fainting couch about the deplorable conditions in “that foul city”, when they are the precisely the ones who created the situation. One common refrain over the weekend while the St. Charles demonstrations took place was :”you’re on the wrong side of the river buddy, go back to the city”. They can’t even hide their contempt nor hide the admission that this is exactly they way they’ve designed the area to be for over fifty years.

    //long time reluctant resident
    //military brat
    //get me outta this place
    //Starting to get the idea why “legitimate rape” Aiken is from St. Louis County?

  • phoenix00

    Wonkette live from the scene! Great job km & Dom!

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