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It was very mean of us to use a picture of Mark Zuckerberg for this post, probably.

When news dropped last week that Facebook allowed a “troll farm” in St. Petersburg, Russia, to spend $100,000 Russian moneys on targeted political ads to influence American voters, it felt like the tiniest drop in a yooooge bucket. Then we learned the Russians had created Facebook events aimed at riling up the unwashed anti-immigrant masses to come out to unwashed anti-immigrant sex orgies, all while Donald Trump was running on a platform of unwashed anti-immigrant sentiment. Two drops in a bucket!

It’s looking like Facebook’s role in Russia’s ratfucking of the 2016 election (likely aided by the Trump campaign) was VAST. Let’s look at a few more things we’ve learned about how Mark Zuckerberg’s college computer class project may have been a key player in electing the world’s most unqualified buffoon to the highest office in the entire world.

Senator Mark Warner just casually dropping #RussiaFacts on Twitter, y’all.

Look at this tweet from Democratic Senator Mark Warner, vice chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, flagging a CBS report on the fake Russian Facebook ads:

We tried to find a news article about Facebook literally accepting rubles as payment for American campaign advertisements, and couldn’t. But then we realized, oh wait, Warner is vice chair of the intel committee. HE’S TELLING US SOMETHING. And sure enough, if you try to buy Facebook advertising, you can pay in rubles if you want! #HOTTAKE and #SLATEPITCH: Maybe Facebook shouldn’t accept foreign currencies for American political advertising, since foreign spending on American elections is fucking illegal? There goes Wonkette again, having crazy ideas.

Last week, Warner commented on the initial news that Facebook had found $100,000 in fake Russian advertising, and that it had closed down 470 associated fake accounts. As a person who’s used Facebook once or twice and has gotten friend requests from 25 or 30 fake accounts in ONE DAY, we’re skeptical that only “470” fake Russian accounts tried to fuck with America. Warner agrees:

“I think we may just be seeing the tip of the iceberg. They had a fairly narrow search,” Warner said, adding that he has been raising the issue for months, and Facebook has been dismissing it for just as long. “We’ve seen them take down certain pages. It’s rather minor compared to the 50,000 accounts they took down before the French election.”

Um, YEAH.

So on that note, here are a couple more drops in our big Russian Facebook bucket!

Want to find all the best ‘Jew Haters’ on the internet? Facebook will play OKCupid for you, in exchange for rubles!

ProPublica has a holy shit thing that shows how specifically Russia could target American Facebook users for the purpose of influencing their behavior:

Want to market Nazi memorabilia, or recruit marchers for a far-right rally? Facebook’s self-service ad-buying platform had the right audience for you.

Until this week, when we asked Facebook about it, the world’s largest social network enabled advertisers to direct their pitches to the news feeds of almost 2,300 people who expressed interest in the topics of “Jew hater,” “How to burn jews,” or, “History of ‘why jews ruin the world.’”

To test if these ad categories were real, we paid $30 to target those groups with three “promoted posts” — in which a ProPublica article or post was displayed in their news feeds. Facebook approved all three ads within 15 minutes.

Goddamn goddamn goddamn! Now, we knew you could target Facebook ads to people’s interests and locations. Wonkette does that! Usually we are like, “Hey Facebook, show this to people who want to know if Bristol Palin is pregnant right now,” and it’s always like “OK!” so we guess we should have assumed people could use the tool for evil as well. (We have also done this INCREDIBLY RARELY, because it turns out spending money on Facebook ads is a crap way to spend your money, which we prefer to spend on US.)

ProPublica included more of its process in trying to target “Jew Haters,” including this screenshot of its ad-buying experience:

This is all done by algorithms, of course, and Facebook PROMISES to do better in monitoring this kind of shit.

Here’s a more detailed look at ProPublica’s ad-buying process:

Last week, acting on a tip, we logged into Facebook’s automated ad system to see if “Jew hater” was really an ad category. We found it, but discovered that the category — with only 2,274 people in it — was too small for Facebook to allow us to buy an ad pegged only to Jew haters.

Facebook’s automated system suggested “Second Amendment” as an additional category that would boost our audience size to 119,000 people, presumably because its system had correlated gun enthusiasts with anti-Semites. [Ed. — HOW ODD!]

Instead, we chose additional categories that popped up when we typed in “jew h”: “How to burn Jews,” and “History of ‘why jews ruin the world.’” Then we added a category that Facebook suggested when we typed in “Hitler”: a category called “Hitler did nothing wrong.” All were described as “fields of study.”

ProPublica kept adding categories (most of which have now been deleted by Facebook) until it assembled an audience large enough for a Facebook ad and then BING BONG! Facebook approved its ad a few minutes later.

Of course, this is a simply a demonstration, and the Facebook spokesperson ProPublica spoke to said it doesn’t APPEAR this sort of marketing was used much, but pffffft, Facebook is only just beginning to fess up to its Russian election crimes. We’ll see what they suddenly find under the couch cushions in six months.

We’re reminded of a thing toward the end of the campaign last year, when Trump’s digital goon Brad Parscale bragged about the Trump campaign’s “voter suppression” efforts, which included using Facebook to put Hillary Clinton’s 1996 “super predator” comments into black people’s news feeds. So … the Trump campaign was doing it. Russian military intelligence was doing it. They PROBABLY worked together. And Facebook helped!

Russia invited Texas secessionists to anti-Hillary hate orgies, but they were washing their hair that day.

Natasha Bertrand has another fun scoop at Business Insider, and it is that a giant Facebook group called Heart of Texas, which was apparently a Russian front before Facebook deleted it last week, literally COULD NOT STOP DOING FACEBOOK “POKES” to Daniel Miller, president of the Texas Nationalist Movement. But for some reason, even though the Texas Nationalist Movement’s executive director, Nathan Smith, is a freak who likes to hang out in Moscow with neo-Nazis (for real, he went there in 2015 to do that), Miller was like “EW! Stop poking us! Staaaaaahp“:

“When they decided to start doing all these ‘Texit’ rallies, they reached out and wanted us to participate,” said [Miller]. “And we said ‘thanks, but no thanks.'” […]

Miller said the group had heard from the Heart of Texas Facebook page before. He said an administrator had reached out via Facebook messenger when the page first launched several years ago. Miller said a “gentleman living north of Houston” who seemed legitimate “identified himself as the admin of the page,” which at the time was just posting “a bunch of Texas pride memes.”

“The character of the page changed over time,” Miller said. “It got very political.”

Now, here is the part that made us LOL. Bertrand says Russia has gotten good at making its fake profiles look real, and quotes Miller, who says the accounts that contacted him looked normal. But there was still 
something about the page that wasn’t right, besides the lack of contact info:

Perhaps the most revealing clue that Heart of Texas was not a project spearheaded by dissatisfied Texans was the language: The memes posted in the group contained typos, grammatical errors, and a general unfamiliarity with basic English phrases.

Hahahahahaha how is that not like normal American wingnuts? Typos? CHECK. Only a passing familiarity with the English language? GET A BRAIN, MORANS!

Bertrand shares a meme from the Heart of Texas page, though, and we see what she means:

OK, the top part? SUPER GOOD EFFORT, Russia! Considering how American rightwing dipshits spent eight solid years coming up with the STUPIDEST names for Barry Soetoro NoBummer NoNever and his tyrannical wife Moochelle, “NO HYPOCLINTOS” is a perfectly legit slogan for a True American Secessionist Patriot meme.

Unfortunately the bottom half reads like something out of Yakov Smirnov’s Branson stand-up act.

BAD JOB, RUSSIA.

Well those stories are just CRAZY, Wonkette!

They are! Yet, we’re pretty sure we’ve still only scratched the surface of how Facebook is complicit like a common Ivanka Trump in helping Russia get Prince Pussgrab of the Orange Pussgrabs elected president. We’re glad Zuckerberg’s love baby seems to finally be working with investigators, but Christ, it needs to do more, and FAST, because we have midterms just around the corner.

So GET ON IT, Facebook, unless you don’t want to for some reason, like maybe if Russia has a secret pee tape of you getting peed on, by Friendster or something. That would be very embarrassing.

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  • jesuswasablack
    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Oh goddamn it. This shit makes no sense to me. WHY, WHY, WHY do we condone straight-up murder if the killer is wearing his cop costume? Grrrrrrrr

    • jesterpunk

      Prosecutors charged Jason Stockley, the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department officer, with murder for killing Anthony Lamar Smith in December 2011. According to the probable cause statement, Stockley was caught saying he was “going to kill this motherf‑‑‑er, don’t you know it” and was heard telling another officer to drive into Smith’s slowing car.

      The court document, submitted by the St. Louis circuit attorney, said Stockley then approached Smith’s window and fired five times into the car, hitting Smith “with each shot” and killing him. In addition, prosecutors say, there was a gun found in Smith’s car, but it was later determined to only have DNA from Stockley.

      Wilson wrote that he was “simply not firmly convinced” of Stockley’s guilt, saying that “agonizingly,” he went over the case’s evidence repeatedly. Ultimately, Wilson said, he was not convinced that the state proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Stockley “did not act in self-defense,” as the former officer had said.

      What more did the judge need?

  • Nounverb911

    I read on the internets that Putin personally loaned Zuckerberg the moneyz to start Faceplant and really owns all the stock.

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  • Bill D. Burger
  • Michael Smith

    We are living in such a great time to be evil.

  • JMP

    So angry. And I feel like cancelling my account in protest, but I like being able to keep up with old friends I would otherwise be completely out of touch with – what are we supposed to do, go back to Friendster?

    • ltmcdies

      That’s the problem, isn’t it. It’s how I keep up with my grand babies.

      • jesuswasablack

        Yeah its probably best to support the subversion of this country so you can look at pictures of grandbabies and friends you don’t really care about?

        • ltmcdies

          Canadian, we have paper ballots

        • Crazt Maist Waizy

          Yes, unsubstantiated gossip is definitely a reason to abandon all your long distance relationships.

          For gawd’s sake…

          • jsmukg

            Yes, everything coming out daily about Russian election tampering, use of Facebook for subversion, etc (including a member of the Duma publicly boasting about said activities) is ‘unsubstantiated gossip.’
            Jeezus H. Keerist on a crutch….

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            You can continue whining if you like, or you can actually do important things to fight Trump. Attacking other lefties with ridiculous accusations has not helped before, and won’t f-ing now. Unhelpful.

          • jsmukg

            Right back at you in spades, troll. Your own unhealthy and ignorant addiction to Facebook hardly makes Zuckerberg’s Puta-platform a central pillar of enlightenment. As for unhelpful ridiculous accusations, to say nothing of WHINING, take a look in the fucking MIRROR.

    • Largo161

      Not saying anyone should delete his account, but why are folks acting like before Facebook families had no way to stay in touch?

      • Crazt Maist Waizy

        Unfortunately, before social media lots of people lost touch with family members and could never track them down again. It still happens but social media makes it much less likely you’d never find who you wanted to find again.

      • Christopher Smith

        Because they refuse to write letters or talk on the phone (as opposed to text or tweet) and are deeply invested in pretending that what most people post on Faceplant is profound and deeply significant communication.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    JFC, s FB has more Russian RWNJs than Putin has troops in Crimea FFS.

  • armed_bears

    In rubles. WTF? I happen to know that hookers in Moscow don’t take rubles from Americans, but Mark will?

    • BadKitty904

      As long as he’s making a profit, I’m sure Zuckerberg will take bushels of corn, chickens, small children, blood plasma, etc.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      From a friend…

      • armed_bears

        Gotta say: Even a short exposure to the petroleum industry gives you an amazing understanding of hooker-nomics.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Hillary was right…

    You Top 0.01% MSM fuckers are the problem.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f054ff621ab08bb58faebd4969931fe1810d621143bf438c3e7fb8548510ac84.png

    Rachel pulls down $33M/year for this???

  • freakishlypersistent

    OT/but have never seen a WH press briefing and fuck me what a fucking weird ass shitshow. A bunch of journalists being forced to ask questions of an impossibly hostile, ugly, Sarah Fucking Huckabee Sanders, for Dog’s sake, about real, serious issues and policy, about a mentally ill five year old, who has NO IDEA what he’s doing, and who constantly derides them as fake and illegitimate. Why in the hell do we go through this utterly ridiculous exercise? And they must say “The President” a thousand times. It’s so fucking bizarre.

  • BadKitty904

    Thanks, Zuck. You’re now committing treason with the GOP Big League!

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Wolf Tracker

    The legal issues FB is going to run into is that all paid political advertisements have to declare that on the advertising and if they didn’t do that and FB was aware then they violated Fed election law.

    Considering this is FB and probably half the US uses it and is invested in the stock I doubt it will result in more than a stern warning from the FCC and election commission but it does show how stupid Americans are that they can not identify Russian propaganda.

    • puredog

      A stern warning? From Ajit Pai? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
      Seriously, I want some of what you’re smoking.

      • Wolf Tracker

        Not one single post from you on this article but you focus like a laser on my post to troll.

        Please stop.

        • puredog

          I have noticed that you tend to snowflakily assume all posts are personally aimed at you, and complain about same. I would have posted the EXACT same response to anyone who hypothesized that the Pai-led FCC would even dream of giving Faceborg a hard time about anything. And if you counted “not single [other] post from me” on this article, that only proves that you cannot count.

          • Wolf Tracker

            Just stop please or I will get Rebeccah involved.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            save yourself the trouble- the block function has cleaned my page up nicely

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            He is gonna TELLLLLL ON YOUUUUUU for making a comment that in no way violates the rules! You might not get dessert. ;)

        • Rags
  • JMP

    You know, sometimes it seems like this whole internet thing was a bad idea.

    • freakishlypersistent

      Nah..we just need to keep reactionary right wing conspiracy assholes from exploiting dumb people.

      • bbayliss

        Which will happen the same day trump becomes presidential.

    • bbayliss

      Kinda like television.

    • redarmyzombie

      Personally, I look forward to the creation of our future robot overlords

    • Historicat

      Can we go back in time and prevent AOL from letting everyone easily access the internet? It was so much better back then.

      • JMP

        I’m so old I remember discovering usenet in college, where September was known as when a bunch of clueless newbies would show up; until AOL became popular, then people started saying, “thanks to AOL it’s always September”.

        • Clark_Nova

          I remember reading EVERY Usenet post on my lunch break.

          • JMP

            I remember one day when Yahoo! started running an ad over their indexes, and everyone at school got outraged; how could there be advertising on the internet?

      • Clark_Nova

        I remember that day. The average IQ on the Internet dropped 30 points overnight.

    • kfreed

      Firefox survey question (the only question I answered): “How excited are you about the latest social media tech…blah, blah”

      Me: I often fantasize about taking a sledgehammer to my laptop.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Scawwy’ conspiracies….and they sound more and more true by the minute.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJuVopfUMAI6EgU.jpg

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Wolf Tracker

      That is where the FBI comes in and they love digging through email accounts and FB accounts to search for connections to terrorists and Russians.

      Be careful this doesn’t become an excuse to reinstate the Patriot act.

  • jesuswasablack
  • Beowoof14

    Gee Facebook, owned by a Jew had a category Jew Hater. There are things that are stunning that keep coming out, it does make one wonder how much Mueller has found at this point.

    • OutOfOrbit

      muellers has surely found a lot of shit but apparently, no proof for anything good enough to arrest anybody

      • bbayliss

        I wouldn’t count on that.

        • OutOfOrbit

          it seems like all these brush fires are going on but as soon as he has the water to put one out it’s like “Nah, let’s go find some more brush fires”

          • bbayliss

            That may be what it “seems like” but this investigation has been going on for a long time, and is indifferent to the daily freak outs we’re subjected to.
            This is a big fucking deal that goes to the heart of the existence of our democracy.
            We’ve been hearing what Mueller wants us to hear.

          • OutOfOrbit

            i’m just afraid this fuckercluster will get out of hand before mueller gets the breaks on

          • bbayliss

            Me too. I’m terrified, but strangely optimistic because I think this whole thing is seriously life changing, system changing, big if handled right.

          • OutOfOrbit

            well he’s got the street cred’ (i hear) so i am not without hope; that said, it is doubtful he (anyone) has ever handled anything like this Hydra.

            I take that back: there were the Nuremberg trials; but those were different times and included may people who’s steel had been tested, tried and found true

          • bbayliss

            Part of the problem is no one has ever seen anything like this.

      • Courser_Resistance

        I think it’s more that they want to make sure they get ALL the rats before they can scurry away. And they know it all has to be bullet-proof. So yeah, there’s what they know to be true and what they can *prove* to be true.

        • OutOfOrbit

          so while they chase the little scurrying rats, they leave the top rats free to sack the pantry and chew holes in the floor

      • Beowoof14

        The more the comes out the more I think Mueller has lots of stuff but doesn’t want to act yet or he will jeopardize getting the really big orange fish.

        • OutOfOrbit

          yeah i get that but i’m afraid this tRumpster fire will get out of control while mueller fiddles with the minutia of “i don’t want to overlook one single iota of criming” until WOOF FIRESTORM CAN’T PUT THIS SUCKER OUT IT’S TOO LATE RUN FOR YOUR LIVES I’VE GOT MINE!

  • Bill D. Burger
  • William
  • Everrett Fanuelli

    How does Jesse Eisenberg feel about this?

  • BadKitty904

    Wasn’t Zuckerberg mouthing off about running for public office? How very convenient…

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    OT but important: @killermartinis live tweeting the Stokeley protest in St. Lou.

    https://twitter.com/KillerMartinis/status/908750564263112704

    • Wolf Tracker

      Cops get paid hazard pay and love to play in their riot gear.

      Be careful out there people.

    • Bitter Scribe

      Man, what the hell is it with killer cops getting off in bench trials? It seems like every one of these motherfuckers asks for a bench trial, and half the time the judge bends over backwards to see things the cop’s way.

      In Chicago, a detective was charged with manslaughter for firing blindly while off duty into a crowd that was pissing him off, killing a young woman. The judge ruled that he should have been charged with murder, not manslaughter–and because of that, he had no choice but to dismiss all charges. The cop walked away free and clear. Un-fucking-believable.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Havin’ a Big Macski’ in Moscow:

    http://warnet.ws/img5/533/cuk/1.jpg

    • William
      • Bill D. Burger

        Scaled down….. I like it.

        Bet the Camel McNuggets are to die for.

        • William

          Try the quarter pounder with couscous

        • William

          My son worked at a convenience store so he could pay for his car insurance during high school. The couple that owned it were from India. They treated my son like their own. They followed his progress through school and college and were very proud of him. Easily among the nicest people I ever knew. I’m sure they also never tired of my boundless wit and mirth as I referred to the place as the *snicker wait for it*, New Delhi-Deli.

      • Wolf Tracker

        The curry big mac is delisc!

    • TJ Barke

      Is that a Big Mascovitz?

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Bitter Scribe

    Yet another reason for me to hate Facebook.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Hey, they were just taking advantage of Facebook’s special sale…Good Buy Rubles Tuesday.

    • Mavenmaven

      In Russia, the Stones roll you!

  • bbayliss

    In Russia, pee tape something, something you.

  • OneYieldRegular

    “Your audience selection is Make America Great Again!”

  • Ellie

    One more reason to add to my list of Reasons I Am Not On FaceBook. My family thinks I’m a Luddite.

    • bbayliss

      Me too. I took one look at it and got the heebie jeebies, same with twitter.
      I think we will be vindicated.

      • puredog

        We already are, y’ask me. We always were.

    • Courser_Resistance

      Meh, I’m only marginally on FaceBorg. It’s under a family, not my personal name (oh fuck no) and only people I know are aware of it. It’s mostly used to oh and ah over babbies, horsies and dogs.

    • Thiazin Red

      The real reason for me is that it sounded like way the fuck too much work. But now I can say its because of this.

  • Marceline

    I hope that the folks at Twitter realize that it’s just a matter of time before the spotlight moves to them and their bot problem.

    • Wolf Tracker

      Mediamatters, Breitbart, yahoo comments all have Russian bots still active.

      • JMP

        Breitbart management was probably involved with conspiring with the Russians themselves.

        • Wolf Tracker

          Possibly. I know they have a lot of Bots in the comments.

        • Clark_Nova

          I’m pretty sure that Zuckerberg conspired with them as well. That’s treason.

    • george lastrapes

      Dreading the day when bots join corporations as actual persons. Will they have the right to vote? Do they, in effect, already have it?

  • TJ Barke

    A new form of low intensity warfare, and we’re losing…

    • redarmyzombie

      I have thoughts on the matter, but unfortunately they don’t pass the commenting rules of my lovely Wonkette…

      • bbayliss

        Thought crime!

    • Paperless Tiger

      No fair, they got a rich target environment.

    • JMP

      At least Macron learned from what the Russians did to us and was able to fight off their attempts to do the same to the French elections, hopefully the Democrats are learning from him.

      • Courser_Resistance

        I wish I were more hopeful about that…

      • Marion in Savannah

        A cursory Google search yielded this:

        There are 47 state secretaries of state (some states don’t have one) and there are 17 Democrats. 29 Republicans, 1 nonpartisan and 1 interim.

        https://ballotpedia.org/Secretary_of_State_(state_executive_office)

        • JMP

          The biggest issue is if our media is learning.

          • Marion in Savannah

            Talk about not having hope…

          • Clark_Nova

            They’re not OUR media, they’re THEIR media.

    • bbayliss

      it’s my understanding that Obama had a plan for a counter attack that has not been carried out.

    • Covfefe’s Evil Twin

      The US is going to lose any type of warfare that requires a majority of the citizens to have longer attention spans than a gnat on coke.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    And then the murders began.

    • mancityRed6

      that needs to be a thing

      • YoBunnyBunny

        Oh, I believe the Wonkeratti will give this one a good workout.

  • Fartknocker

    No Hypoclintos will be the name of the nachos I’ll make for the LSU vs. Mississippi State football game this weekend made with beef fajitas with pickled red onions, sharp jack chedder cheese and hatch green chilis.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Sounds yummy… Wouldn’t that make them Yes Hypoclintos?

    • Clark_Nova

      If they’re from Hatch (note capitalization) they are chiles, not ‘chilis’. Texans don’t know from green chiles. If you ask for them on your burger, they use Jalapeños. Their ‘red chili’ is a sad tomato and bean stew suitable for convalescents and small children.

      • ahughes798

        I thought that in Tejas, red chili was just sauce and meat, no beans,’cuz vegetables are for sissies.

  • Crystalclear12

    I KNEW IT!!
    I knew Facebook was evil!

    • TJ Barke

      Every corporation is evil to one degree or another.

    • The Wanderer

      I just thought it was objectionable. At first.

      • Crystalclear12

        Then the murders began.

  • William

    It used to amuse me when the Russian Trolls would invade the old Alan Colmes website. They would use outdated and obsolete words common to old English. Easy to spot, and fun to play with when you suggest they need better English teachers. The common response to their Obama bashing was when I reminded them that no U.S. Leader ever died having sex with a horse. One of these idiots went into a rage about that Catherine the great story being just a myth. Talk about outing yourself.

    • “no U.S. Leader ever died having sex with a horse.”

      Except Warren G. Harding, allegedly

  • Lance Thrustwell

    What’s with all this Jewish conspiracy stuff? You can point to a lot of Jews in law, banking and the entertainment industry, sure – but you can point to even more people in those same industries whose heritage is largely from, say, somewhere in the British Isles.

    Now there’s a conspiracy for ya! Rule Britannia!

    • whitroth

      *sigh* For the better part of 2000 years, it’s been JEWS! Christ-killers! Don’t let them own property (so they have shops, etc). Userers (the Church was against usery, so the Good Christians, including kings and nobility, would borrow money, and then, when the note came due, or it was inconvenient, tell them they had to leave the country or convert (or get raped, tortured and/or killed).

      So, using that, the Czar’s secret police came up with the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, and so that became the excuse: THEY’RE TRYING TO OWN US! THEY WANT TO CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT! AND BIG BUSINESS!

      And on, and on. And the wealthy love it all: let’s you hate them (ignore us behind the curtain).

      • ahughes798

        Christ was a Jew. So I don’t know how they can claim to love Christ, yet hate Jews. The Romans killed Christ, not the Jews.

    • kfreed

      Not much daylight between the Pepe franchise and the LaRouchites really :) All are represented at the Moscow conference:

      http://threewayfight.blogspot.com/2015/02/moscow-conference-draws-fascists-neo.html

  • Fartknocker

    If Mr. Zucker likes, I am willing (for a nominal fee) to license the world famous Fartknocker name and rebrand his software as Fartbook. That should help everyone understand what they are registering for when they log in.

  • Wolf Tracker

    OT: Keep an eye on this latest repeal attempt and media has not been covering it well.

    Obamacare repeal’s last gasp at ’48 or 49 votes,’ senator says

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/obamacare-repeals-last-gasp-48-49-votes-senator-says-151414497.html

    If that fails which is likely McConnell may have to put up Bernie’s bill or force his own GOP to reauthorize the subsidies for the ACA to stabilize the markets.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    My new social media site, ShitfaceBook, is chock full of the most credulous people in the world. I should be rolling in rubles in 2020.

    • Wolf Tracker

      Damn- why didn’t I think of that!

  • laughingnome

    I have a site just for my family called Scrapbook. It’s all paper.

    • Marion in Savannah

      We’ve got Wallbook — you know, framed pictures on a wall.

      • little miss high and mighty

        Fridgebook is best

  • Electric Ukulele Land

    Buying Facebook ads is like putting money into a largely un-stocked vending machine — the machine will gladly take your money and go through the motions of dispensing something, regardless as to whether anything is returned to you.

    I don’t recall seeing any indication that they review the content of the ads for anything other than “too many words” in an image so I doubt there’s any sort of filter on whether content might be political in nature and Facebook was totally taking that money regardless where it came from.

    But the sad truth is, no matter how many nickels the Ruskies were plugging into the jukebox, it may not have really effected the outcome of anything.

    • BreakingDeadMen

      I disagree, I think their efforts poisoned just enough voters at the margins to make the difference.

      • shoeflyin

        Yes, it sounds like they were able to target very specific groups “allegedly” with Trump campaign/family help.

  • theblackdog

    This story really does go deeper into the rabbit hole. The one thing I have not seen from the security researchers I follow is how users can protect themselves from this propaganda. Perhaps their silence tells us we can’t as long as we use Facebook.

    • george lastrapes

      I’ve always remembered something my Grandma said- “Fools’ names and fools’ faces/ are always seen in public places.”- and stayed the hell away from Facebook.

      • proudgrampa

        Your Grandma was wise.

        • george lastrapes

          And a yellerdawg Democrat, to boot! Big fan of Huey Long- who was kinda the southern-fried Bernie of his day.

  • george lastrapes

    “It wasn’t me, it was the algorithms [malgorithms?]…” The Zuckerberg defense. Only $100K? His fortune fluctuates within that range on a microsecond basis. Just 470 accounts- oh, 50,000 in France? Say $10M? Still, subverting the election for that kinda money doesn’t make sense. Unless the algorithms did it…..

  • TootsStansbury

    So did Douchey McPimpleface get Tramp elected so he could swoop to the rescue and be king of America?

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Naw, he just wanted to make lots and lots of money and he DGAF where it came from or what the consequences would be.

  • Brian Fowler

    Stupid question, but what would it take for someone, anyone to bring down PUTIN?

    Even if Mueller nails Trump, Pence and the whole shebang, ratfucking poisoner Putin will still be fucking the world over.

    • tomamitai

      Kishki tovarishcha, kishki!

    • Thiazin Red

      I think we’re just going to have to wait that one out.

    • Clark_Nova

      It will take a bullet to bring down Putin.

      • little miss high and mighty

        silver (votes, folks votes) silver vote bullets.

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    I always get “The Look” when I tell people I don’t have Facebook. It’s like I’ve just revealed I’m from Mars.

    • canes_pugnaces

      If there is a bigger waste of life’s energy than Facebooking, well…

      • TundraGrifter

        It would be card solitaire games – Microsoft’s evil scheme to put every company in America out of business.

    • Thiazin Red

      I remember a while ago after one of the mass shootings one thing people kept bringing up was that the shooter didn’t do facebook in a horrified tone. As if not doing facebook was some obvious sign of instability and homicidal tendencies.

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        If something happens to me, and it does not become a Facebook status, did it even happen??

        • Thiazin Red

          I Like, therefore I am.

        • Ricky Gay

          Frightening thought! That would mean some of my FB contacts have NEVER EATEN A MEAL!!!11!

      • little miss high and mighty

        Yes, Batman killer
        He was widely suspect for NOT having a FB.
        Explains the unmarked antenae vans parked out fron of the studios here.
        (not written by LMH&M).

    • proudgrampa

      Is having an account and not using it kinda like smoking and not inhaling?
      That’s me.

      ps. “Ms MLG on Maui from Mars” has a certain alliterative ring to it.

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        Ms. MLG is from Mars. Jonny is from Uranus.

        • Jonny On Maui

          Hey! I’m a Klingon!

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            Klingon Uranus.

          • Jonny On Maui

            Not Uranus! Not Uranus! You’re Uranus!

        • Last Hussar

          Make your own invade Uranus joke

        • proudgrampa

          Ha!

      • Tiffany de Houston

        I have an account and a very small group of friends. I only spend about 30 minutes a week of FB and sometimes I think that’s too much.

    • Marceline

      I’m the opposite. I’m on Facebook all the time. I love being able to keep up with friends from high school and college. I love seeing the photos of their kids. Plus I’ve made a lot of real life friends because of it. This mess just makes me want to punch Zuckerberg in the throat.

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        I’m glad it works well for you. Facebook is a good tool for communication for many people. It just isn’t the tool for me.

        • Marceline

          Sorry if it came off as me trying to woo you to FB. I wasn’t. I’m just trying to figure out what to do in light of this news about them. I’d have to go back to *gasp* phone calls and emails!

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            It didn’t come off that way at all, lady. To avoid all those phone calls and emails, we may have to bring back MySpace. MySpace Revival!

          • little miss high and mighty

            US Postal Service
            Real hard copy of thosse grandkids’ masterpiecesd for the fridge.
            Authentic MLB score sheets and golf tallies- not just printed copies.
            FB and the !phone pandemic take away “just being here”.
            Watching the actual, real, true panorama of existence face-to face and not electro mediated and matertialized.
            !phone and facebook=Rare earth mines, Slave labor-like conditions at assembly and servicing, transport, ligistic and marketing footprint? Making the ig suits and skirts even fatter and fatter?
            Let us leave the Capitalist shackles behind.
            dump FB for starters!

        • Boojum

          At least we agree it’s a tool.

          • little miss high and mighty

            superfluous tool.
            Just broaden you own netz- thn its your’s not Capital’s.
            FB is unecissary and complicit in Capital’s dominance in our own personal, sacred lives.
            Besided, the time and human energy it gorges on is time we could better use in real things. Email was a real thing once.
            FB is an embarrassmnt.

            ps, again X,K not LMH&M this time (she sleeping still)

      • Edith Prickly

        I like the Facebook too, but agree with you about Fuckerberg.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        It’s been a great place for groups and I’m in a few that are helping me develop a freelance career. It’s extremely useful, which is why so many people rely on it now.

      • Canned Covfefe

        This is why I feel torn. I HATE Facebook but I know I miss much regarding people I care about. I would like to have that connection. I only use email for business stuff b/c folks text. I haven’t check email for almost 3 months. I held off on phone for as long as I could.
        But each and every time I think, hmm maybe should just give in with Facebook I’m like nope, nosiree, can’t dance don’t ask me. But then I use alias for customer reward cards and no, you can’t have my email even if it’s to send me coupons. And I’m very thrifty. That’s my info not theirs.

        • Crazt Maist Waizy

          I hate a lot of things Facebook do, some of which they really shouldn’t be blamed for doing and some which they really should. My view is that it is best to be part of it and work out how to combat those things, rather than not being on it and doing a lot of guesswork.

      • Crazt Maist Waizy

        I second this. I genuinely have much stronger friendships because of Facebook, and to be honest I’ll be damned before anyone robs my future children of that.

        I too want to punch Zuckerburg because he’s given life to something that is both good and bad in different respects, but he keeps making the wrong moves and it is such a faff.

        Edit: It is also great for people like the League Against Cruel Sports over my way in Britain to be able to organise their activism. It will always give voice to the voiceless, even though it gives too much voice to the loud of voice.

      • little miss high and mighty

        You mean “with votes, throatpunching”, right?
        But keeping up with friends, photos from their kids, lots of real life friends-
        Not possible before FB?
        When more and ore people unfriend or bail altogether from FB maybe the email inbox will come back to life
        We, here do the keeping up and the photo share and the etc’s without the shame, terror and guilt of FB association.
        Try it- it actually works!

        posted by X.K., not lmh&m

    • Bigby
      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        YES, IT IS!!

    • whitroth

      Hey, if you’re from Mars (the planet), would you consider giving me a lift in your UFO? I really don’t want to live on the Planet of the Stooopids….

      • BeachBum

        And pick me up on the way back ? Gotta try Maui Wowee !

        • Years ago, a friend and her husband went to Hawaii and came back with some. Wowie is right.

    • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

      That’s the look I get when I tell people I don’t own a phone!

    • kfreed

      Got talked into signing up last year. Lasted a total of three weeks before deleting my account. The sheer volume of stupid crazy snapped my last nerve.

  • canes_pugnaces

    So let us all remove our corpuses from Facebook. I did, much better now.

    • whitroth

      I wound up on it originally, because it was the only place I could get hold of something to buy their convention membership off them. Now, I’ve got friends and family who just will NOT read their damn email.

      My facepalm page? No pic, and it tells people that I hate fasepalm, and to email me.

      Besides, I always thought that facesplat was a *GREEEAAAAT!!!” resource for burglers….

      • I only have it for my grandson so I can send funny videos and car racing stuff that he’s into. I did open a twitter acct and not a week later got a message that Boris & Natasha liked my comment. I had never made any comments so I deleted it quick.

        • BeachBum

          I used to get “Beautiful Russian Wives.” Now just cheap vodka ads.

      • Crazt Maist Waizy

        “Besides, I always thought that facesplat was a *GREEEAAAAT!!!” resource for burglers….”

        Yep, the general rule is don’t post about your holiday until after you come back!

  • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

    I sometimes wish the Winklevoss twins had won that whole little keruffle about whose idea Facebook was. I can’t help feeling they’d have been at least a bit less effective at destroying the known universe than young Mark.

    PS Anybody who didn’t realize something like this was going on by mid-summer of 2016 was willfully blind. Every single FB link or page concerning either of the Democratic front-runners was instantly and inevitably swarmed and contaminated with ugly, toxic, brutal, crudely profane and deeply mendacious agitprop (this also happened to every single story about Black Lives Matter or anything involving any black kid murdered by a cop).

    It was soon clear that it all this lethal sewage was being generated by some dark money outfit in order to prevent any serious positive narrative from taking shape.

    The only open question remaining is how much of this garbage was being funded by Charles Koch’s little Mafia, how much by Robert Mercer’s massive cadre of grifters and propagandists, and how much by the Russians, which in the end all seem to flow from the same ambition and to the same conclusion anyhow, so there’s that.

    • tomamitai

      I must be willfully blind, because I thought we had plenty of homegrown racists and misogynists to carry out something like this for free, plus the assholes who do this kind of shit for the lulz. Or am I just cynical?

      • whitroth

        Sure, but a lot of them have trouble getting on a computer and getting to the face-thingy – usually they’re looking for ammosexual pr0n…..

      • Too coordinated for regular murricans

      • BeachBum

        Overall, plenty, prolly yeah. But no way near enough in WI, MI, PA, and OH where it really counted.

      • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

        The thing about the FB trolling and other high-tech intrusions isn’t the lying and the racist assholery–we manufacture that by the job lot–but the highly sophisticated targeting, including targeting by individual voter profiles.

      • Jukesgrrl

        No, you’re not cynical. You’re just thinking too small. The people you speak of exist but they are just the tip of the iceberg. The real trouble is more insidious.

      • kfreed

        We do… with lots of help from Russia:

        March 2015: “American White Supremacists Attend Russian Nationalist Conference”
        https://www.adl.org/blog/american-white-supremacists-attend-russian-nationalist-conference

        Southern Poverty Law Center (2010): “Russia Today has reported with boosterish zeal on conspiracy theories popular in the resurgent “Patriot” movement, whose adherents typically advocate extreme anti-government doctrines.”
        https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2010/russian-tv-channel-pushes-patriot-conspiracy-theories

        Moscow Times (2012): “Russia’s Misery Loves U.S. Company”

        “After the Nov. 6 U.S. presidential election, more than 500,000
        Republicans, Tea Party members and other opponents of President Barack Obama signed online petitions in nearly all states saying they would like their states to secede in protest of four more years of Obama.”

        … Prominent television journalist Maxim Shevchenko told Newsland.ru that Russia should give grants to the U.S. “separatists” to help develop human rights in the U.S. What’s more, “the leaders of the movement can become leading experts on Russia Today [state-controlled television],” he added.”
        https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russias-misery-loves-us-company-19777

        Foreign Policy (Feb. 2016): “Why Europe Is Right to Fear Putin’s Useful Idiots – The Kremlin’s support for right-wing parties is no game. It’s trying to subvert the European idea.”
        http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/23/why-europe-is-right-to-fear-putins-useful-idiots/

    • Dg Hacket

      How about a narrative where Koch’s and/or Mercers were funding the Russian troll farms, in light of the ruble tanking and Russia money being tied up by sanctions

      • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

        There’s no “conspiracy” in any meaningful sense, and Vladimir Putin certainly doesn’t need anybody’s help, but they all share common motives and goals.

        Of course it’s a known thing that Charles Koch has been funding propaganda on a massive scale for decades, his whole thing is political bribery and propaganda in order to subvert and shred our political system, and he has bought up politicians at all levels, from local to federal, as well as judges, reporter, professors, economists, etc.

        And while Mercer is a relative newcomer to the game, he’s been deeply involved in a kind of high tech subversion of the process via various mechanisms, from Cambridge Analytica to Breibart, and has allegedly had a marginal but meaningful impact on the outcome of the Brexit vote as well as on the presidential race and possibly some key Senate races here at home last November.

        Of the three, I find Putin the only one who’s even marginally forgivable. He’s a brute, but he’s a brute engaged in fairly classic statecraft, and he’s doing it for the greater glory of his own country.

        Koch and Mercer are doing it because–well, basically, because they’re fucking Bond villains having a massive tantrum over the limitations of living in a democracy and having to pay taxes and obey regulations, so they’ve decided to get rid of democracy.

        • gingerwentworth1

          I see what you mean but he’s always killing people, it’s part of his sacred religion as a KGB man growing up, and now too without a doubt. Koch brothers probly feel it’s unavoidable that workers die on their oil rigs because– come on! it’s their destiny to die in accidents and things– but… I prefer the Koch’s really. One of them pays for NOVA!
          So, want to fight a duel?

          • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

            No duels, I have lousy eyesight.

            Yeah, Putin is a killer. It would be terrifying to be a dissident, a journalist, or even just an inconvenient business or political rival, in Putin’s Russia.

            There are people who claim, not incredibly, by the way, that Koch is part of an industry that has as a matter of routine had people killed as well (the record of the fossil fuel industry, especially in Africa and the Middle East, is pretty bellicose and appalling–certainly up there with the track record of the KGB in terms of political murders and targeted violence).

            Whether or not Koch is personally implicated, it’s certainly the case people have become horribly ill and even died as a consequence of Koch Industries’ negligence and Charles Koch’s own personal, deeply unhinged, pseudo-libertarian refusal to observe basic environmental and safety regulations: see Danielle Smalley and Jason Stone, for starters.

          • gingerwentworth1

            Then I hate everybody and am so disgusted and scared. Just to imagine the poignant situation of people in those countries trying to combat

        • HellhathnofuryDemme

          Homeland sockpuppet operation.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EufH0T196bY

        • arundel

          I was with you util this part: Of the three, I find Putin the only one who’s even marginally forgivable. He’s a brute, but he’s a brute engaged in fairly classic statecraft, and he’s doing it for the greater glory of his own country.

          No. He is a coldhearted KGB agent who saw the USSR collapse, and he is hellbent on revenge. He wants to see the US collapse, and is doing everything he can to hasten this. (It’s scary to see how possible this is, and how many Americans would help him.) I am not being hyperbolic- cracking the EU apart, destroying NATO, exploting divisions and bringing the US to its knees are his fondest desires and goals. This is not “classic statecraft for the greater glory of his country”. This is 21st century warfare by other means.

          • CB

            Putin, Tillerson, Charles, and David are all completely interchangeable. They are natural born psychopaths who lie with ease and happily murder anyone they can get away with murdering.

            I see Russian trollbots pushing Climate Denier propaganda cooked up by the Kochs absolutely all the time!

            It wouldn’t surprise me for one second if they were conspiring with one another…

    • Red Bird

      People knew but everyone ignored them. In my opinion, no one called it out because they didn’t want to believe that our politicians would be that evil. The same way no one wanted to believe that white supremacists were seriously supporting Trump.

      • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

        I think you’re right. It was precisely this kind of failure of courage, vision, and conviction that left the world’s democracies so vulnerable 80 years ago.

  • bubbuhh

    Personally, FaceFuck usage is right there with spending money on virtually any iProduct.

  • Paul Dietzel

    Emerrrgency. Everybody to get from the street.

  • geoffalnutt

    Facebook (the company) needs to die right now…to become a mere ugly memory. They wanted money so bad they didn’t care where it came from or what it was being used for. Russia is the enemy. Hello?? Never mind.

    • Jukesgrrl

      If that’s your criterion it applies to most of the Fortune 500.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Them, too.

    • Crazt Maist Waizy

      So did the publishers of Art of the Deal, but I don’t see people demanding that publishers shut down.

  • Jenny

    Your target audience is great?

    How about “what the fuck is wrong with you, you sick piece of shit?”

  • Daniel Hooper

    O.K, this is starting to get a little more solid. I’ve said before that I’m not sure Facebook was legally liable for Russia’s influence in the 2016 campaign, but the more that comes out, the more I can at least see a case for some sort of criminal negligence. No one saw that rubles were being paid for American election ads and thought, “Huh. That seems kinda fishy…”?

    • No one saw ameroes coming from russia for political ads as fishy either

    • Canned Covfefe

      No algorithm for that I imagine.

    • arundel

      One way or another, Facebook needs to be taken down about five hundred pegs. Not because I personally don’t like it for myself. But because it has 2 billion users and considers itself absolutely unnaccountable despite some really egregious and flagrant violations here. There’s such an arrogance that emanates form them, Facebook considers themselves a nation unto themselves at the corporate level. They need to be held accountable. They’re selling intimate, precise, details about you, every individual’s likes and wants and past and present, they know everything about you and they sell this info about you to absolutely anyone. It’s a really pernicious thing, and seeing how it can be abused like this, unregulated, ought to be investigated.

      Apparently Facebook is scared shitless of Mueller’s investigation. They handed over giga-tons of info to Mueller, panicked, after they airily brushed of Senate and House requests for info. Just straight up told Congress to fuck off, Facebook doesn’t have the time. Well, they better find some fucking time.

  • (((fka_donnie_d)))

    I’m working on a social network for Graffiti artists.

    I’m going to call it “defacebook”

    • Grumpy Twat

      I’m working on an antisocial network for Grumpy Twats; SourFaceBook.

      • Canned Covfefe

        I’m working on a social net work for ETs* called spaceface.

        • Grumpy Twat

          No need to phone home, then.

      • ahughes798

        I’m working on a network for young millenial women called Duckfacebook.

  • JD Mulvey

    Okay, okay… subversion of our democracy is totally fascinating and all…

    But what we really want to know is “Why does Steve Bannon wear so many shirts??”

    https://www.thecut.com/2017/09/why-steve-bannon-wears-so-many-shirts.html

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a5395e773cc3ff7dcca0f88043c829d973213e0073c1cd0e2a1c2e143d4325ec.jpg

    • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist
    • Clark_Nova

      Schizophrenics often wear multiple layers of clothing when it’s hot and too few when it’s cold. They tend to disconnect from their environments.

      They also have a funny smell that a minority of humans can detect but almost all dogs react to. I’ve always been able to smell them but no one else in my family could.

      Trump has never had a dog. I wonder why.

      • Red Bird

        Wow. This is a lot to digest. What do dogs do when they are around schizophrenics and they smell them?

    • Nockular cavity

      It’s too cold for him here, because he’s used to the climate in Hell?

    • cicatricella

      maybe he thinks it covers up the BO?

    • Zyxomma

      Too ashamed to order dress shields for his pits?

    • ahughes798

      I always wondered why he did that! Thanks for the link. When I was a kid, most men wore t-shirts under their work shirts. And topped it off with Brut or Old Spice.

  • SayItWithWookies

    Great — I’m starting to change my mind about sales taxes on the internet. First, we’d know where shit came from. Second, companies that sell internet ads would have a mechanism in place to identify stuff like political ads.

    • HooverVilles

      Yeah, I am liking it too.

    • ahughes798

      And THAT is how you fix Facebook.

  • Gorillionaire

    I know more than a few Bernie-bro types who still believe in the shit they read off of obviously fake ass Russian bot accounts.

    • Marceline

      I’ll be interested to see the response from the Branch Bernidians, when the reality of how much support he got from Russia finally sees the light of day.

      • Lefty Wright

        Hell, some of his campaign staff noticed a big uptick in Sanders social media postings attacking Clinton in July, 2016. After she had the nomination wrapped up. And it was traced to eastern Europe. Did the Bern do anything to alert his minions and warn them of tampering? Of course not. He had an image to uphold and a band of followers to keep inflamed. Negative Trump news (yawn) just wasn’t getting the reaction negative Clinton news (EVIL WITCH!!!!!) was among the Berners. And he was still on a mission to destroy the main stream Democratic Party. Beating Trump was secondary.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        It will have never happened. None of them will have even HEARD of the 2016 elections.

    • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

      The ones I know are still loyal Wikileaks readers. :/

      • amrak63

        “The ones I know are still loyal Wikileaks Russkileaks readers.” :/

        FIFY.

  • george lastrapes

    I almost signed up for Facebook, because everybody else was doing it. But I got the same creepy feeling as when I was thinking of using the men’s room at the bus depot.

    • phoenix00

      I was forced on with extreme duress.

      • george lastrapes

        Peer pressure? Evil acquaintance?

        • phoenix00

          My fellow officers in my non-profit. So both.

  • Scooby

    You would think that having a face would be a requirement to get on Facebook.

  • Clark_Nova

    Facebook needs constant DOS attacks from patriotic hackers.

    • Marla

      I rather see the poison that is Facecrook off the fucking web for good.

      • ahughes798

        How about you just not use it? No one forces anyone to sign up, unless it’s a requirement for employment. And even then, you can quit the job.

        • Crazt Maist Waizy

          Exactly. I’m not letting someone who has never been on Facebook rob me of something that strengthens my friendships so much. Fuck that.

          • ahughes798

            The anti-Facebookers strike me as very much like this description of x-tians. I can’t remember who wrote it and I’m paraphrasing: “Deathly afraid that someone, somewhere, is having fun.” It’s like abortion…don’t like it…don’t have one. And I’ll second your Fuck That.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            I think this is very true. These anti-Facebookers want to ruin special, even sometimes central things in other people’s lives because they think of their experiences as more worthy. They aren’t.

        • Marla

          Golly! Thanks for the advice, Capt. Know-It-All.

          • ahughes798

            You’re welcome. Any time.

        • Crazt Maist Waizy

          Oh, no, that wouldn’t involve robbing loads of other people of something that improves their lives! That’s no good for Marla!

  • VirginiaWackelpudding

    Facebork is a hive mind. I never liked hives (itchy) or the Borg. Proud loner am I.

    • BeachBum

      I once took an online quiz and the dominant result was that I was such a loner, they were surprised I took the quiz !

    • Cogswell – In a Mirror, Darkly

      I refuse to be assimilated by FakeBook.

      • amrak63

        Resistance is fertile. We will not be assimilated.

  • Dg Hacket

    Has zuckerberg been to any beauty pageants in Moscow?

  • HooverVilles

    I hope we can really get to the bottom of all this. It seems that we are seeing much, much less than the tip of the iceberg.
    We really need to learn from this.
    Oh wait, the GOTP and learning don’t mix.
    Sigh!

  • natoslug

    Is it wrong that I want to offer my services as a Russian propaganda meme proofreader? I’d be willing to go as low as $10,000,000.00 USD per meme.

    • Lefty Wright

      As long as you have the disclosure “This meme approved by Vladimir Putin” prominently displayed.

      • natoslug

        I was going to go with a “Pootie-Poots Approved” watermark.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea

    I’d like to blame this at least in part on the arrogance of the tech bros who think that algorithms and coding can replace people. This idea that there is some kind of utopia waiting when everything is done by their pure unbiased code is insidious and this is just one example.

    • Red Bird

      They also forget that the algorithms itself is a reflection of the coder’s own biases.

    • Jukesgrrl

      Libertarians. Ain’t they grand?!

      • phoenix00

        The Silicon Valley techbro-type of Libertarian. As opposed to gun-humper don’t-tread-on-me Libertarian.

    • little miss high and mighty

      cultural predictblility makes the rosters shorter and less confusing to those overworked algos.
      Like shooting fish in a barrel.
      I know. Fish in barrel libelz- but that’s how they think.
      The grubbers!

    • Sakonyachen

      When most of a person’s interactions are with a screen, it becomes easy to take the human component out. This where many industries fail. These people are more vulnerable to their own arrogance because they spend so much time dealing in bits and bytes. It’s not even a fair chance for them to be “normal”. Automation is coming, but it’s not going to look like Wall-E. they will find out then that automation is useless if the people aren’t served by it. It’s pretty much the plot line of all dystopian fiction.

  • Laffing Crow

    We can all take some small (as in petty) solace in the fact that you can replace the Z in Zuckerberg, with just about every consonant in the alphabet, and it sounds insulting. So, there’s that.

    • Canned Covfefe

      Hey, you’re right.

    • phoenix00

      What about the 6th letter? I hear it’s special….

  • Alan

    Facebook found fake accounts because they knew someone else was going to find them for them.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    Of course FB accepts Rubles. You can use PayPal to pay in 24 different currencies, including Russian Rubles. See the list here.
    https://developer.paypal.com/docs/classic/api/currency_codes/#paypal

    • Sakonyachen

      No question that they should accept rubles. It’s not like they don’t have Russian customers. The problem is when advertising related to the US elections is purchased, Russian currency should be a red flag(pun intended, also too, just realized I don’t know what Russia’s flag is now). The bigger concern I have is that they saw money as a bigger incentive than US election stability. That is incredibly dangerous if true.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        Very true. But this attitude is endemic, particularly among the Trump crowd and many Republicans. Russia is now a kleptocracy, and I think a certain faction in the Republican Party would very much like the US to become one too.

  • OddMan

    Facebook knows that they can influence elections, in fact Facebook touted that as a selling point.

    Quote is from Forbes Nov, 2016, the link is really wierd.
    Zuckerberg proudly touted Facebook’s influence in getting folks to vote last Tuesday: “We helped more than 2 million people register to vote, and based on our estimates we got a similar number of people to vote who might have stayed home otherwise.”

    And this article from CNN Tech
    During the Republican primaries, Facebook’s powerful data told those working to get Ted Cruz elected which ads could win over Donald Trump voters.
    http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/17/technology/facebook-election-influence/index.html

    • Red Bird

      Then he also knows that they can use FB to discourage people from voting.

      • OddMan

        Exactly, that is the purpose of advertising, to convince people to buy your product and that the other product sucks.

        • Red Bird

          Zuckerberg knew about this because his boyfriend Peter probably knew about it. And they are both on the FB BOD. Someone had a plan and thought he could use plausible deniability to get away with it.

        • ahughes798

          And that is the system we operate under. Capitalism.

    • Crazt Maist Waizy

      Getting people interested in voting isn’t a bad thing in itself. We want more people interested in voting in order to overcome what we couldn’t before.

  • OrdinaryJoe

    FB stock price is stable despite the news. Nothing like the USA. We’re ok with going down with the ship just so we go down making money.

    • Niblet58

      The people who make the money never go down with the ship, just the peons….

      • OrdinaryJoe

        ^^^ Bruce Ismay

  • chimpevil

    Evan is a true national treasure. I would suggest we build a monument to him but him being a Southern gentleman and all (bless his heart) it would probably wind up being placed next to a Stonewall Jackson one, so I don’t know.

  • Red Bird

    I think a certain board member of FB has something to do with their reluctance to confess.

  • Old TV Fan

    I recently ran across an article mentioning how the Facebook app on my smartphone was chewing my battery up like crazy. Sure enough after I removed that bitch from my phone, my battery is lasting a lot longer.

    Something tells me that Facebook has some #covfeve built in it with sinister intentions behind it. I haven’t been on Facebook in a while, and have about decided that it’s not good for anything anyway. So I believe I shall forthwith once and for all destroy all traces of any Facebook existence, because I certainly don’t want to support a company that helps commit TREASON against my nation!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0e6ba6ff7cb4b15fa1e3ce779341017dc4c9f0b5ad4d56dabcd75a12576431d0.jpg

    • Three Finger Salute

      Good for you! More and more people need to do this, believe me!

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Prolly just telling Facebook where you are, and who you’re calilng and texting and browsing, at all times. No biggie, but yeah, it’s hell on battery life.
      You just need to turn on all twenty of this month’s new set of deeply buried privacy settings.

  • Three Finger Salute

    Mark Zuckerberg is a disgusting kapo, the worst kind of self-loathing Jew just like Miller, Levant and now Netanyahu Jr. (and, by default, Kushner, as enabler of both his Nazi father-in-law and Bibi’s logic-defying Jewish Nazi family) who should be discredited, blacklisted from civilized society, and his company shut down by the federal government for aiding and abetting a soft coup of the United States government by a foreign power. For that he belongs in prison, considering there’s far more weight and evidence for the allegations against him than there was in the flimsy Rosenberg case. Zuckerberg is a traitor to his own people.

    Let the record show, your honor, that anyone who still belongs to Facebook after this revelation is enabling a Nazi to sell out his own people and the whole of humanity to fascists. I have no patience for the techbros anymore or people who say they’re on it “because family pictures” or what have you. Send Polaroids in an envelope like people used to. Facebook is literally no better than Daily Stormer and Zuckerberg is a goddamn kombinator. Delete your Facebook or you’re no better than he is.

    • suziq

      So back to My Space then?

    • ahughes798

      Whatever you say.

    • Crazt Maist Waizy

      Oh, do fuck off. What a load of idiotic, childish shit.

      Facebook aren’t there to remove every little thing we want them to. Neither are people.

  • Robert Thomas

    The accusations against Facebook here are childishly ridiculous.

    I don’t have a Facebook account, and I never use the service. Facebook would do well to make every effort to avoid having their service turned into a propaganda arm for creeps. But blaming Facebook for not being an arbiter of ideologs or of practiced operators of political intrigue – as these accusations seem to demand – is like blaming Georgia Pacific for supplying newsprint to the National Enquirer.

    People (and not least, journalists) feel defeated by their own inability to ween themselves from the slavish attention they pay to Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and so forth, and so they reflexively blame not only their own but the entire world’s problems on their robotic psychological oppressors – oppressors whom, they’re convinced, make a better wage than they deserve.

    • Crazt Maist Waizy

      Exactly this!

    • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

      this ^^ opinion disregarded and not valid on the basis of “…dont have a facebook account…never use the service”

      if you did have an account and ‘used the service’, you would clearly see (or not) that it is the perfect vehicle for manipulative propaganda, agitprop, and yes–fake news–with the flimsiest of excuses for standards of accuracy, filters and controls

      your analogy of georgia pacific’s newsprint being used to print the national enquirer is innacurate and bogus…the more accurate (though not perfect) analogy would be if the new york times or washington post allowed any asshole with a qwerty keyboard to post their uninformed and idiotic opinions on the front page without any standards, filtering or editing whatsoever

      • Robert Thomas

        I don’t need a Facebook account to see clearly that those who believe what they see there are easily gulled pea-brained sub-epsilons, any more than I need to buy a keno ticket to know that casino gamblers are losers and rubes.

        Facebook members post two billion items per month. That’s about 45,000 posts per minute. In order for human beings to attend them at a rate of review of one minute per post, Facebook would have to employ something like 200,000 employees to do nothing else but review submissions for prior restraint. It’s ridiculous to consider that Facebook provides the same category of service as The New York Times or The Washington Post. The latter may be considered to be contract carriers, with respect to their classified advertising or their publication of letters received addressed to the editor. Facebook’s service amounts to common carriage, with the additional provision of self-service user tools. In this way it is comparable to a lessor of a communication channel, as are AT&T, Verizon, Sprint et al., or as a provider of infrastructure or materiel, exactly as is Georgia Pacific.

        • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

          yeah…your first paragraph reinforces the point that it’s the perfect propaganda platform…and just as in your example of keno players, there are not only losers, but also winners…the house, the controller of the info, wins the vast majority of the time–thru manipulation/control/advanced knowledge of the odds/info

          • Robert Thomas

            National Enquirer, National Examiner, the Globe and several others have been ensnaring slow-witted foolish people for decades, poisoning their opinions in supermarket checkout lines. In Britain, the Daily Mail, Daily Express, Daily Mirror, Daily Star, Daily Record, Sunday Mail, The Sun and until recently News of the World have been even more consequential in the English speaking world. News Corp and its alien reptile overlord have had a far more malevolent effect on U.S. and world affairs – deliberately so – than has ANYTHING done (or failed to be done) by Facebook. The animus toward Facebook – as vacuous as its service unquestionably is – is misplaced. It is childish frisson, due overwhelmingly to its critics’ envy of Facebook’s commercial success.

  • Keith Taylor

    “Nathan Smith is a freak who likes to hang out in Moscow with Neo-Nazis. For real.”
    Have they forgotten in Moscow that Hitler’s Waffen SS performed some rather unpleasant acts in Russia? Maybe they have. Maybe all they remember is that the Nazis hated Jews, and Russia has a long strong history of anti-Semitism. It goes back to Tsarist days but unfortunately sure didn’t end when Tsarist rule did …
    No, I suppose I’m just trying to find some kind of consistent logic in anti-Semitic thinking, and that is simply silly.

    • phoenix00

      There is, however, consistently authoritarian regimes from the Tsars thru Nicolas III thru Stalin continuing right through Putin.

      Unless you count those oh-so-brief maybe-lulls during Gorbachev, Yeltsin, and Medvedev….

      • Keith Taylor

        You are so right. Democracy is a fragile flower and the soil of Russian history … forever and ever one of violent, arbitrary rule … doesn’t encourage it to grow. I expect Ivan the Terrible and Stalin would have understood each other quite well. Not to mention Putin.
        Democracy can also be a fragile flower in western nations, and as your own founding fathers pointed out, only endless vigilance (for instance against the likes of Trump, “skilled in nothing but the little arts of popularity”) can save it from ignominiously dying.
        And, particularly since WWII ended, when the U.S. is in trouble that way, so is Australia.
        Best of luck to us both.

        • phoenix00

          Turnbull voting for LGBTQ marriage is a nice step though. I’ll consider that a victory if/when it passes.

          • Sophie McMillan

            what do you think is going to happen with this? I have a big child already living in Queensland and one other heading out from the uS to Oz to study Zoology/Marine Biology. Am having to counsel her on being more circumspect about her forthright political views on teh geys etc until she knows her fellow students better. She seems to think that student = more liberal thinking ( ah the delight of being 18 and loving of your fellow humans)

          • phoenix00

            I hope it passes! We’ve had it up here in Canada for a few years now and everybody’s pretty damn happy. As long as the more Nazi Conservatives aren’t voted in after Trudeau’s done we should be sitting pretty.

            As for you and your kid, I don’t really want to comment since I don’t know how she was brought up, but I’d simply remind her that LGBTQs are fellow human beings and students just like she is, and most want to be treated as exactly that.

        • Sakonyachen

          So true. The USSR was at its best a benevolent dictatorship, despite democracy being a core tenet of socialism. It’s the main reason people in the west believe communism is about the poor stealing your toothbrush.

  • Robert Thomas

    Facebook can at least blame inadequately crafted formulas for its faux pas. Not so much, those patrons of Tuscon’s Country West Dancing & Lounge (now, “The Branding Iron”) whom Borat led in a chorus of “In My Country There Is Problem (Throw the Jew Down the Well)”. Our power punditocracy of the era (David Brooks, Charles Krauthammer et al.) decided way back in 2004 that those rootin’ tootin’ schlemiels were unfairly duped and besides, there isn’t any real antisemitism in the U.S. any longer.

  • Molon Labe

    Yeah, its shocking that Russians who live in Russia would use Russian money! There is also a rumor these same Russians even speak Russian.

    Whoa, if true….

    My waitress last night tried to offer me a russian-dressing, whatever that is… I just got out of there before they released my pee-pee tape.

    • phoenix00

      Unless they deal in blinga-blinga Benjamins….

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      It’s the Russian un-dressing that will get you in trouble.

      • Sakonyachen

        Go on…

      • SqueakyRat

        I went home with the waitress
        The way I always do
        How was I to know
        She liked Russian dressing too?

        • ahughes798

          Ha!

    • little miss high and mighty

      There are 117 or more languages in Russia (just pulling facts out of somewheres).
      And thousands of dialects and piglatins there and maybe lots of salad dressings. Different moneys, too, also. If you’d have remembered to leave a juicy tip maybe you are safe about the pee pee tape.
      Were the Rubels for reals or more sockpuppet moneys?
      Man, you were lucky last night.

  • James

    I keep seeing comments here from many people here about “well, I have a Faceplant account because I want/need to keep in touch with my (family/friends/fan club/stalkers).

    Perhaps it’s because I don’t do snark well.

    I don’t understand this, likely because I am too old or something. Even during Harvey and Irma I kept in touch with people in my family. See, we have these things called “telephones,” where I can pick up this thing called the “receiver” and stick my finger in a “dial” to dole out a ten-digit number to call relatives in Texas and Florida.

    We also frequently exchange these things called “letters,” which we can write with a “pen” using “penmanship” or “print out” using a “computer.” We then stick these “letters” into a little container called an “envelope,” (Sometimes we add “photographs” sometimes, like the ones I took of the total eclipse that were printed on a machine for me).

    We then take them to this business that almost every town has, called a “post office” where one buys a “stamp” to put on the “envelope” and they take it and deliver it by hand to the family member or friend in question.

    No one in my family is on Faceplant. Aside from not trusting companies to keep our information private (Equifax, cough cough), everyone in my family has been in the the military or worked for computer firms. I don’t trust Faceplant as far as I can throw an Acme-brand anvil, and it has nothing to do with being a Luddite.

    • phoenix00

      I tried to keep myself off FB, and failed. Blame the rest of the officers at my non-profit.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      I created a fake account, just for the convenience of logging onto web sites (it seemed for a while that it was becoming essential). No real information whatsoever, every field left blank if possible, every privacy option turned on. The fuckers proceeded to tell me who I “might know” on Facebook – listing people I know.

    • HazooToo

      Game requests. That is all.

    • Crazt Maist Waizy

      Uh huh. You know people can send letters and use Facebook as well, do you?

      Also, moving and changing your home address doesn’t affect communications on Facebook.

      You’re using Disqus, dude. Daniel Ha never listens when people point out Disqus’s role in skewing politics, yet you’re still here. Less of the condescending bull please.

    • Major Lee Pissed ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      So my phone fell in the toilet last weekend (long story …. and yes, there was liquor involved) and silly me, I never backed up my contacts to my sim, or Google, or anywhere else for that matter. Luckily, most if not all of my contacts are on FB or another social media platform so I was able to find them all once I replaced my old phone, which was filled with toilet water. Moral of the story: Jack Daniel’s is one helluva drink. No wait, that’s not right.

      What the hell were we talking about again?

  • Greg Comlish

    God I hate Mark Z. Does anybody find Mark Z’s foray into politics anything but repulsively cynical? Does anybody think his “conversion” to Christianity is anything but an transparently politically-motivated stunt? Does anybody find his blue-collar tour of America anything but grotesque? Honestly.

    • James

      But what do you really think of him? /s

    • HazooToo

      What I hate most is that he’s trying to pretend he’s not preparing to run, when he’s doing all of the things that candidates who are preparing to run will do. Don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining.

      • Greg Comlish

        “Watching Mark Zuckerberg try to casually sidle into politics is like watching a very drunk person try to shoplift an air conditioner”

    • ahughes798

      Do you think his “conversion” is a tell as to which party he will be a candidate for?

  • svejk

    don’t just crap on fakebook. rememberthe google machine & social disgrace twitter. all complicit w/russian electoral manipulation. you know them bastids didn’t just exploit *one* platform too ignorant & oblivious to watch out for election ratfucking.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    Gee, I always considered Il Douche the world’s most qualified buffoon.

  • Niblet58

    And now you know why Zuck was thinking of running for Prez in 2020, he saw how his system was gamed and wanted to do it for himself.

    • little miss high and mighty

      yes, the whole game waas a background research
      They paid attention, noted all the names loaded up on numbers and accounts infos, made huge lists, got religion and now comes the everyman (cheaper) suit of clothes and pulic chow downs at pizza, bagels, chittln’s chow fong,tacos (lotsa tacos) sweetpotato pie and getting used to Budweiser aftertaste.
      He’s tanned, conditioned, ready to run.

      • Sakonyachen

        Truthfully though, does anyone find Zuckerburg charismatic? It’s sad but true that Clinton would have mopped the floor with the whole Republican clown car and Sanders if she was more relatable. She can actually pull off a warm smile. Suckerburg is 40 lbs light of being the monacled oligarch. That hoodie doesn’t fool anyone, at least I don’t think it does. I’m old and painfully addicted to critical thinking so I may be projecting here.

    • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

      exactly…and i dont why anyone is so shocked, SHOCKED…any human with a critically-thinking skeptical brain who uses Fb can suss out the fake bullshit, imean it literally screams ‘fake bullshit’, much like the ‘hippo-clintons’ up there^^

      • ahughes798

        Apparently, there are lots of stupid Americans who can’t.

        • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

          clearly

  • dukiebc

    I just use my Facebook account to comment on sites like this. Otherwise my account is totally made up, no information is real other than my email address to link it. F**k Facebook.

    • Turkis

      Facebook closed my account because that’s all I did too, no picture, no information on me, just used it to comment. When I called, they told me I needed to send them a photo ID or driver’s license, and I told them to f**k off. They aren’t going to get my personal information so they can sell it off.

      • Sakonyachen

        I’m not too concerned about them having my personal info, or selling it for advertising. My issue is that when we share stuff there we still create the profile that they sell. If people started asking why they don’t get a cut of that, they would delete accounts until they were off the web just to avoid sharing.

      • Rocky E

        Same thing happened to me. Up to and including them asking for a photo ID.
        Never liked FB, but now I think they are creepy.

  • AngryNotSoOldHippy .

    No, you dumbfuck, Facebook is not complicit in anything, Facebook is a corporation that takes money from any legal entity or individual in exchange for advertising, they did not actively collude, they’re not Capitalists.

  • sarafina

    Yesterday I heard Kai Rystalle on Marketplace talking to one of the people who bought the ad, and it was both horrifying and hysterically funny.

  • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

    Unfortunately, i have a lot of friends all over the place, and facebutt is how we interact. Most were commenters on a defunct site, and had opened accounts when that site started a fb page. Several of us have traveled around and met others IRL, and a few are now my best friends. Many of us have mental illnesses. Many of us have a strong aversion to talking on the phone, or leaving the house. We like having group conversations. We’re a lifeline when one of us needs it. We raise money when one of us is in trouble. Right now, we’re working on getting someone out of an abusive situation, getting her cats in a foster home until she can get established. She doesn’t really have anyone local except her son, who’s helping coordinate things, but he can’t do it alone.

    We try to migrate to every new similar site that comes up, but none have worked for us so far.

    It seems like it’s the cool thing to brag about not having a facebutt account, but some of us need it, or something like it, even us Olds. Fuckerberg is surely dickweed (which is not a swearword™) but I just can’t quit him, at least not right now.

    Sorry if this comes off as a diatribe, but I just had to vent after reading so much criticism that comes off as an insult to those of us that use it.

    • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

      Oh, and we’re all lefties of various stripes, and yes, we enjoy our bubble in the midst of chaos.

      • Sakonyachen

        No need to be ashamed. My asshole friends and I use it to be Internet jerks and to post stuff when crazy shit goes down. Even my conservative friends are grinding their teeth over the Stockley decision(yes, we who think that Mao was right wing have conservative friends). It has its uses, and it has its drawbacks, but so does a hammer. I own a hammer, why not Facebook?

        • SqueakyRat

          You own Facebook? Can I be one of your asshole friends?

    • Crazt Maist Waizy

      Thankyou for making these elegant points. For some, particularly us socially anxious types and vulnerable people too, Facebook is a valuable resource that enables us to do things no other medium is quite suitable for.

      I do feel personally insulted by some of the Facebook criticism, particularly as a nervous sort who it has helped enormously. Whatever I think about Zuckerburg’s actions, which definitely deserve criticism, I still am grateful for Facebook. Its the cool thing to brag about not being on it, but that disregards a lot of people who genuinely need it.

      Thankyou very much.

      • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

        YVW. It’s not like we’re oblivious to what’s happening, or has always been happening (we all have called it facebutt and him Fuckerberg for a very long time).

    • Marceline

      Meeting other depressives online has been a life saver for me and FB is pretty much how we all keep track of each other. It’s a great way to find a community of people if you have a medical issue.

      • Petunia Cat

        I didn’t know that. Good to know. Thank you.

    • ahughes798

      Oh, it’s very much intended to be insulting to those of us who use it. Because they’re so much cooler than us, I suppose.

      • Crazt Maist Waizy

        ^ This!

      • Crazt Maist Waizy

        Yes. It is intended to be so, and I’m not sure they care about the great things it does for the ill, the in need and the activists who all find it an essential tool. Its all about feeling superior with little to feel superior about. It is so very pathetic.

  • IrishGrudge

    And THIS is among the many reasons I miss MySpace.

  • OppressedMass

    Today I posted to my FB page with a link to a story of their collabortion with Russia in fixing the election:
    “I’ve always hated Facebook and I await their comeuppance with glee. And yes, using Facebook to say how much I hate them and wish for their downfall adds a delightful tang to my schadenfreude…”

  • Moar Wordz

    The social experiment, er, manipulation of FB just got even more creepy than it already is.

  • susan_g

    Last summer, Fox and other right wingers were spouting out about how Facebook was censoring conservatives. This started making the MSM rounds especially on the Sunday and morning network shows, with ensuing mea culpas from Facebook. After that, the door was swung open for these kooks. It was a smart plan that worked. Zuck got played.

    • Randy Riddle

      Same way that the “alt-Right” was complaining about FBI monitoring, so Congress made them back off.

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