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On Monday, the vacuous sack of Dep hair gel and bile known as Milo Yiannopoulos posted a picture of a house destroyed by Hurricane Irma, along with the caption “my house is gone.” He soon found himself the recipient of an outpouring of support, even from many who professed to not like his politics, as well as a few comments about Hurricane Karma. You know, because he is a terrible person and had also just recently posted (and since deleted) a Facebook status declaring “In more positive Irma news, Richard Branson’s Necker Island home has been devastated.”

Nice!

But alas! Milo’s house being “devastated” is neither a cause for pity, nor an example of karma in action, because Milo’s house was not devastated at all. Milo does not live in that house, a man named Gerard Duhart does. Milo lives in another house that was not devastated by Hurricane Irma.

Via The Miami Herald:

We checked to see if Yiannopoulos does indeed own that home (we doubted it, since why is he still posting about 9/11 related news on Monday and not dealing with the recovery?). Plus, we heard he lives in the Miami Beach area.

So anyhoo. YEAH. That house that got decimated does most definitely not belong to Yiannopoulos.

The Miami Herald found the place, and it’s in Edgewater, at Northeast 27th Street and Fifth Avenue, which is close but definitely not the Brickell neighborhood where it was rumored to be on social media.

Reporter David Smiley spoke to a neighbor who witnessed the drama unfold and it turns out the property belongs to a guy named Gerard Duhart, who had evacuated ahead of the storm.

This is, I can only imagine, what passes for humor in Milo’s neck of the woods — unless he has some form of House Munchausen’s? Clearly, he thinks it is very funny that people like Gerard Duhart lost their homes in a hurricane. Personally, I am not getting the punchline here, but that is probably because I am one of those humorless feminists who pretty much never pretends to have had her house destroyed in a natural disaster.

Perhaps this is some kind of publicity stunt? A weird, sad, and honestly kind of boring publicity stunt? Milo announced in April that he would be starting up a new media business, and had secured $12 million from anonymous investors (COUGH MERCERS COUGH) looking to support his pipe dream.

“This isn’t some vanity nameplate on a personal blog. This is a fully tooled-up talent factory and management company dedicated to the destruction of political correctness and the progressive left.

“I will spend every waking moment of the rest of my life making the lives of journalists, professors, politicians, feminists, Black Lives Matter activists and other professional victims a living hell.”

Sigh. That is actually a lot sadder than having one’s home destroyed by a hurricane, because he has to live with himself, and Christ, that sounds tedious as hell. Also tedious? Your OPEN THREAD!

[Miami Herald]

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  • If i had 12 million dollars, guys could have 10 mill of it. Got some family debt too

    • Raan

      If I had twelve million dollars, I’d like to say that I’d make good investments and donate to worthy causes, but I know that the first thing I’d do is buy a bunch of junk food.

      • Swampgas_Man

        Send money to my dad, buy a car and a cell phone, all those things I’ve lacked all these years.

      • Pay off my mortgage, and fund my music full time. Easy call here :P

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        Zingers! That would be so many Zingers.

        • Raan

          Raspberry, though. It’s gotta be the raspberry ones.

    • JustDon’tSayDignity

      This is starting to read like a Barenaked Ladies song. NTTAWWT.

    • whitroth

      Help my kids pay off their debt, put some aside, then run for, oh, Rep in my district. And I guarantee all Real Wonketteers (as opposed to the trolls) would be laughing themselves silly.

      Hey, least best case: one or more talking heads on Faux News would die, on the air, of apoplexy….

    • Three Finger Salute
      • SterWonk

        That looks oddly familiar, but I can’t place it…?

        • Three Finger Salute

          Better Off Dead. Since this is the thread after the thread after the updated thread about the piano guy who thought he was in a John Cusack romcom.

    • Raan

      Alternate Joke: Man, inflation really hit the Barenaked Ladies hard.

    • Shawn Renee Ernoehazy

      I would first have to give the mortgage company about $30K to stop the foreclosure they started, then pay off the student loans, then put in a fabulous pool and backyard. Next Wonkette gathering in the Sacramento area would be here! I would furnish the guest rooms with comfortable beds, and all the other rooms with comfortable sofas. There would be all the booze at night and coffee in the morning. A Wonkette B and B. It is a great dream anyway.

  • P’jama Pahnts

    If only the women I knew were aware of this back in the day…
    https://www.maxim.com/maxim-man/why-women-want-ugly-husbands-2017-7

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      I’ve sort of run into this in my relationship. Modesty aside, I am a conventionally attractive 29 year old man. My girlfriend, by her own admission, isn’t so much. And while she never expresses jealousy of other women or believes I might be dissatisfied, she does feel shocked that I would even be with her. Even as I tell her that I find her beautiful (and intelligent and interesting and stimulating and kind and…), she feels she should be more so, to satisfy an invisible “them” that might be looking askance at our relationship. It sucks.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Funny, that’s one reason I never bothered looking… I’m a social recluse as it is, but I’m also bothered by the fact that I’m not “a ten”. Especially now that there’s an unwritten executive order in place that basically disenfranchises and revokes the citizenship of anyone who isn’t Plastic Ivanka, it really bothers me.

  • OrG

    Who?

  • memzilla Ω

    In other news, I voted in the NYC Primary Election today. Sadly, my request for a do-over on the last election remains unfulfilled.
    . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c5d4944470503a4bc15774a034e5f0fad198e2643895090597eebe44d555b6bb.jpg

    • Parakeetist

      You can vote Vedka, I’ll stick with Finlandia.

  • Crank Tango
  • laughingnome

    I’ll have a burger, medium rare, and a bottle of the house Munchausen’s.

  • Wolf Tracker

    If he was accepting donations under false pretenses that is fraud and he should be reported to the Florida AG so they can investigate and charge him.

    • arglebargle

      I believe the going rate for dropping those charges is $25,000.

      • Raan

        It might have gone up since people have started, y’know, looking.

      • Wolf Tracker

        Oh that is Bondi huh.

  • CO
  • Crystalclear12

    Attention whore can’t stop whoring even though 15 minutes is up.

    • Edith Prickly

      What else is he going to do, get a real job?

  • Wolf Tracker

    Did Cruz ever come out with a statement about his porn tweet?

    • Beautiful Soup

      “Staffing” issue.

      • arglebargle

        heehee

    • laughingnome

      It was a firm statement that he had a hand in drafting. He still is trying to come to grips with the situation. He will likely palm it off on a staff person.

      • JustDon’tSayDignity

        Yeah, I’m sure he’ll shake it off.

        • SDGeoff3

          As usual, he’ll beat it all.

        • ImGoingBacon

          ewwww

      • Beautiful Soup

        As soon as he shaves his palms, that is.

      • FlownΩver

        Yeah, like he’s masturbating! Huh huh huh.

        We may as well go full single-entendre here in Trumpistan.

    • Mr. Blobfish

      Possessed by demons. He got better.

    • whitroth

      Pro’ly a “staph assistant”, oops, sorry, “staff assistant” who does his asocial media, because he doesn’t get this stuff.

  • Asterix

    This sucks. When I heard the asshole lost his home, I yelled – GOOD! Now it’s some other poor soul… Karma is a twisted bitch.

  • Edith Prickly

    Who needs to fuck off forever more, Milo or Ann Coulter?

    • BadKitty904

      Yes.

      • Raan

        Beat me by a fraction of a second.

        • BadKitty904

          Great minds, dude…

    • Resistance Ftr PuckStopsHere

      If you flipped a coin with the decision riding on the outcome, to the surprise of absolutely nonody, it would land on its edge.

      • Querolous

        Trump would grab the coin, claim that Obama and/or Hilary did it and then give the coin to Putin.

    • jesterpunk
    • Parakeetist

      This question is hard.

      • Gayer Than Thou

        Sort of a Kobayashi Maru of who should fuck off.

    • whitroth

      All of ’em, Katie!

    • Boscoe

      Only Thunderdome can answer that question adequately.

  • BadKitty904

    While no sensible American pays the least attention to the “gay Bristol Palin,” I can’t imagine anyone being surprised by this level of douchery on “his” part.

  • James Baskin

    Your little fraud is up? Ima sorry. Really.

    • SDGeoff3

      It was a quickie.

  • Resistance Ftr PuckStopsHere

    “my house is gone.” — Milo

    He said “house”. He meant “brain.” Or self-respect. Or …

    • Can a hurricane destroy something that never existed?

      • Raan

        We’ll find out if Creamcicle Peron tries to file an insurance claim on one of those towers he never built.

    • Parakeetist

      Dingdingding

  • Kiri the Unicorn

    So, the takeaway is that Manhisyapisloose is even more of a contemptible scumbag than I thought?

    https://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7cx0v0Fgp1rbaxuco1_500.gif

    • Panika MCD

      at a certain point you just run out of contempt.

      • TJ Barke

        I never would have thought it possible.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Listened to the lawyer for a guy suspected in a drive-by shooting argue that her client certainly is not a drug user. Perish the thought! Anyway, she lost that argument. I’m not too surprised — here’s an actual pic of the guy:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/735deff67dec24012cc77badb8753cdb2a3e43a309667bbdd504cb95ec4a4951.jpg

    “Does this meth make me look high?”

    • Ωbjectifier

      Da fuq with his eyes?

      • Shanzgood

        He’s an extra on TWD.

      • SDGeoff3

        Mmm-hmmm.

      • jowgajen

        Are those eyes digitally enhanced? Or just chemically?

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          It’s a still from surveillance video, so I presume the enhancement was the result of the meth he allegedly possessed when arrested.

      • Nockular cavity

        NOT DRUGS, OH NO, NOT DRUGS AT ALL.

    • Raan

      “Does this Crystal Blue I made with my old science teacher make me look high?”

    • Wolf Tracker

      Just guessing he has several missing teeth in front and it wasn’t the result of any fight.

    • leemoder

      Vanilla Ice has not aged well.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Well, he did have a botched facelift and changed his name to Justin Bieber.

    • OneYieldRegular

      Breaking AWFUL.

  • BadKitty904

    Can the actual owners sue him, I hope?

    • Wolf Tracker

      Probably not but he could be charged by the state for fraud if he accepted donations.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    He blew the $12M at the dog track. He is going to tell the Mercers that he left the money under his pillow but had to evacuate and lost it all so please send another $12M.

    • laughingnome

      He blew 12 at the dog track but it wasn’t millions.

    • FlownΩver

      Having left the twelve mil on the nightstand in the first place, the Mercers will probably fall for that “under his pillow” line.

  • Ωbjectifier

    Richard Branson chillin’ in his wine cellar. I don’t think he gives half a shit what milo thinks. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2603512c4538a6cafc98337d7ac1788b91842b3895744a290c0020b50a9f5963.png

    • Three Finger Salute

      OK… who’s junior Branson in the blue polo there?

      Asking for an imaginary friend.

      • Ωbjectifier

        I dunno. Son maybe?

  • Anything that I could say about Milo would violate the Rules for Commenting Radicals, so I must simply say that I hope every possibly unpleasantness is visited upon him.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    Has he tried, you know, not being a dick?

    • Asterix

      There is no profit in that.

    • Nope. Not even once.

    • whitroth

      He thinks his being a dick is like a flagpole, and he wants to see how many i-jits he can get to salute it.

  • Parakeetist
  • Red Bird

    OT? Good. Stand by for “life….a poetic poem about life” by Red Bird in the next hour.

    • Panika MCD

      poetry word libels…

    • Beanz&Berryz

      But not too poetic, please, for some of us poetically incorrect ones..

    • FlownΩver

      There once was a bird that was red…

  • whitroth

    And I bet he says all *sorts* of nasty things about “takers”. Does he have a fundraiser, to repair his house, too?

  • aureolaborealis

    Going after professional victims, you say? Interesting.

    • Bobathonic

      Seems to me he ought to have no problem finding some low hanging (alleged) fruit in that realm.

  • ibwilliamsi

    Did he file his insurance claim yet?

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      I sure hope so.

  • Milo reminds me of a less amusing Jean-Ralphio Saperstien

  • Daniel

    “I will spend every waking moment of the rest of my life making the lives of journalists, professors, politicians, feminists, Black Lives Matter activists and other professional victims a living hell.”

    Because if I don’t none of them will pay any attention to me.

    • Panika MCD

      too busy helping people, I suppose.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      This is the bottom line. Someone needs attention, or bad things will happen to him.

      No attention for Milo, then. Let the universe have its way with him.

    • BadKitty904

      Journalists, professors, politicians, feminists, Black Lives Matter activists, and others:

      Who?

      • Daniel

        white knights, manginas, virtue signallers, grieving family members…

        • Three Finger Salute

          …rape victims, families of black people who got lynched by racist cops, Dreamers getting pulled out of the secret annex at 3am by the American Gestapo…

    • OneYieldRegular

      So he’s an actual Nazi?

  • Michael Smith

    Dude pretends his was destroyed in a hurricane, then says he’s dedicating his life to fighting professional victims.

    As opposed to an amateur hour victim like yourself, Milo?

    • Boscoe

      I really need to learn to scroll down before commenting… sigh.

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    “I will spend every waking moment of the rest of my life making the lives of journalists, professors, politicians, feminists, Black Lives Matter activists and other professional victims a living hell.”

    And that’s different from normal Republican’t, asshat behavior how?

    • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

      But he is a gay man who likes to have sex with black men! Although there is no evidence of this either.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Because he’s a Log Cabin Republican and fuck you, that’s why. See? You feminazi SJWs are just haters and hypocrites getting funded by Soros to do spirit cooking at Hillary’s pizza den and suck Trubama’s cock for the Rothschild Jews. #MAGA #1488 #MGTOW #SHADILAY #4TEHLULZ

      tl;dr Milo thinks he can get away with being a jerk because he’s gay

      • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

        I see. Thanks for the clarification? I was thinking that,…sort of. I just thought, “Huh. Gay Republican men can be giant assholes too. Maybe they just have better shoes?” I really don’t know what’s up with my steam of consciousness’ fixation on shoes.

  • Panika MCD

    not even Pepe would fuck Milo.

    • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

      Le Pew or da Frog?

      • Raan

        Yes.

      • Panika MCD

        AOT Pepes, K.

  • Daniel

    182 copies of his book sold in his home country!

    DANGEROUS!

  • Not a puppet, not a puppet, YOU’RE THE PUPPETEER!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CslTFTS3K4U

  • Scooby

    He probably just referring to when the Death Star blew up.

    • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

      And the Ewok Apocalypse?

  • Ricky Gay

    Milo and Pharma Bro – Road Trippin’
    Coming this fall to TLC!!!

    • Too busy gouging my eyes out at the thought of this

    • Panika MCD

      Error 404

      Pharma Bro is unavailable for road trip as he is waiting to be sentenced.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      I recant my prior opposition to “reboots.” I would love to see this happen. I suggest a gritty man-centric reboot of Thelma and Louise with Milo and Shkreli as the central characters.

      • Nockular cavity

        But just the last scene, please? Er, with a big canyon of votes, I mean?

        • Three Finger Salute

          Only if there’s also a cameo from Susan Sorandom.

    • elviouslyqueer

      Most pitiful Dumb and Dumber porn remake EVER.

      • Ricky Gay

        With a overnight in Paris Hilton!

      • Edith Prickly

        Now I’m imagining them braying “Mockingbird” at each other…

    • A Groucho Marxist

      I bet Shkreli gets icked and backs out of the series after witnessing one of Milo’s one nighters.

      • Ricky Gay

        Martin not in to boys?

        • A Groucho Marxist

          I…honestly have no idea. If he is, that would make my joke incredibly unfunny…ier.

          • Ricky Gay

            It was a dig at Milo’s inartful comment from a while back…

          • A Groucho Marxist

            Ohhhhh

    • Moebym of the Returners

      Gee, thanks for putting the RHCP song of the same title in my head.

  • Three Finger Salute

    I thought Twatter permabanned Milo for sending his tiki mob after Leslie Jones?

    • jesterpunk

      They did.

      • Three Finger Salute

        But he’s back? Or is that a different website with his “checkmark” attached to it?

  • elviouslyqueer

    Speaking of karma, I’m going to enjoy watching this motherfucker age like a moldy rotting prune. Wait, no. A moldy rotting prune with zero friends, zero mentions on the Wayback Machine, and a house that you could smell five miles away due to the millions of cats who use his sofa as their personal toilet.

    • yyyaz

      I like it except for the poor kittehz having to spend time with him.

  • Wolf Tracker

    OT: Suicide of teen who made sex video shows dilemma for schools

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/suicide-teen-made-sex-video-shows-dilemma-schools-154148868.html

    16 year old commits suicide after school finds consensual same age sex pics on his phone and threatens to have him arrested and charged as a sex offender.

    • redarmyzombie

      Oh, for fucks sake…

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Ugh….

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Why the hell is a school administrator questioning a student about a potentially criminal act? What possible good can come from the assistant principal playing Colombo with a kid?

      • Wolf Tracker

        The school board policy says they have to contact parent’s but does not specify BEFORE confronting the student and they are suing.

        His parents were available and should have been contacted first and allowed to get him an attorney and be there for any questioning.

        Looks like a major legal fuckup.

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          It should have been referred to law enforcement and the school district should have let them investigate. Having a fucking amateur involved in an investigation does nothing but fuck things up.

    • Three Finger Salute

      The U.S. is ridiculous in their overapplication of “sex offender” criteria for innocuous things, while letting priests, Woody Allen, and Dennis Hastert have a free pass. You can’t even take a leak at the side of the highway, and in some jurisdictions it’s illegal (or they’re trying to make it illegal) to publicly breastfeed. They ruin kids’ lives for being naturally curious, while at the same time having no sex education except “kissing is bad, m’kay? So don’t do it” and thinking that’s going to work.

      The U.S. itself is perverse. I’m not a big fan of the over-the-top raunch culture or seeing Viagra commercials during the 6:30 news and plastered all over billboards at baseball games, but the other extreme is not just idiotic — it’s dangerous, and it hurts people. Which is the intent, of course. Republicans probably think this kid is rotting in hell for having a sex drive at all. (And then go home to their own pizza pages while Ted Cruz has a wank on Twitter.)

    • whitroth

      ‘Scuse me.. but what right does the school have to invade his privacy, to look on his phone?

  • jesterpunk

    Remember Milo is the guy who went to the White House to ask the Obama administration to get him his blue twitter thing back.

  • Boscoe

    So, the guy who says he is going to devote the rest of his life to destroying “professional victims” is trolling for pity with fake news about his pretend house being destroyed? Lemme guess, he also has a book coming out about how all the mean progressives have screwed him over and ruined his life… amiright?

  • BadKitty904

    Ahem, Alex Jones Now Says Donald Trump Is Being Covertly Drugged
    “They drug presidents because the power structure wants a puppet,” he said.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ahem-alex-jones-now-says-donald-trump-is-being-covertly-drugged_us_59b7d93de4b031cc65cca681?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

    The “power structure,” in this case, being Putin.

    • Paperless Tiger

      Like he could be more fucked up.

  • lucidamente

    Couldn’t we suspend the Rules for Commenting Radicals, just this once, pretty please?

  • Panika MCD

    since I didn’t post this until LAAAATE last night, I thought I’d share it again.

    it’s a bunch of border artists making art commentary on the MAGA wall.

    https://www.texasobserver.org/wall-flowers/

  • SayItWithWookies

    Milo and Ann Coulter should do a Nazi version of Will & Grace. Not only would they think they’re hilarious, but it would waste a lot of people’s money who really have no business having money to begin with.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    If Milo plans on destroying “political correctness”, then he’s going to have to destroy himself. Because the right lives by it.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Thoughts and prayers for all those who bravely demonstrated their idiocy during the War on Christmas.

  • TJ Barke

    He really is just a piece of fucking garbage.

  • Daniel

    His house is still standing, and all the unsold copies of his books are still there, entirely safe from water damage, so he can still sell them on Amazon, and, more importantly, see them stacked there for the next several years as he waits for anyone to actually order them.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      The electrons in the Kindle edition need a good drying out though.

      • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

        Don’t we have better uses for electrons though?

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Other fake Milo disasters:

    – Lost his dick in the great castration riot of 2016
    – Lost his silverware when the American GIs liberated The Eagle’s Nest
    – Lost his slaves when Mr. Lincoln stole them all

    • Raan

      – Lost his other slaves when Moses led them across the Red Sea

      • Villago Delenda Est

        – Lost his virginity to Cain and Abel.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Seth libelz.

    • LucindathePook

      Sherman burned his plantation.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Had his mouth filled with plaster in the Surprise Glory Hole Repair of 2003.

    • Panika MCD

      lost his ass at the race track…

      that one might have been real.

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        “It’s Hogwash out front, Applejack second by a length. They’re coming around the clubhouse turn, it’s Hogwash and Applejack, Hogwash and Applejack. COME ON APPLEJACK!”

    • Nockular cavity

      Got gooped to death in the Great Boston Molasses Flood.

    • theCryptofishist

      Lost his seaside villa when Vesuvius blew up.

      • Three Finger Salute

        I thought he was Vesuvius Wanker Guy?

    • yyyaz

      — Sole survivor and witness to the Bowling Green Massacre

  • Nockular cavity

    I’ll send him 12 million in Confederate dollars.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      I’ll donate private militia money, but only in the form of a hand written sovereign citizen note. I wouldn’t want to use any printer ink, that stuff’s expensive.

      • Boscoe

        Anyway, it doesn’t count unless it’s in red crayon.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        And printer ink is loaded with taggants.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Worst Better Off Dead reboot ever.

      • Rasilom

        Do not give Hollywood any ideas!

        • Three Finger Salute

          Nothin’ But Crap network already planned a made-for-TV Say Anything “sequel” a few years back, but Crowe and Cusack shut that right down.

    • CATMAN

      I’ll throw in 10 billion Zimbabwe Dollars

    • theCryptofishist

      Traitor Bucks, please.

    • Panika MCD

      bit coin?

  • Brian Fowler

    “You want the truth, Milo? You are a hurt 13-year-old boy. I don’t know what pain you had to go through to make you so cold and distant from any feelings of compassion and basic kindness, but causing hurt makes you into the monster you are running from.”

    From Glen “Father Coughlin of the Obama Age” Beck, of all fucking people.

    • TJ Barke

      Whoa… Must be a clock twice a day type situation.

      • theCryptofishist

        You do realize that at some point, if not already, that reference isn’t going to make sense to children and young people. Scratched record, also, too.

        • TJ Barke

          THEY CAN FUCKING LEARN WHAT IT MEANS!

          • OneYieldRegular

            I didn’t know Archimedes personally, but I know how a sundial works.

        • Querolous

          Dial tone.

      • Glenn Beck has actually been surprisingly rational these last few years. While he didn’t outright endorse Clinton, he said it’d be better to elect her than the shitgibbon. He also raised millions of dollars for undocumented refugees from Central America and made comments in support of Black Lives Matter. In short, he’s not as obnoxious as he used to be.

        • Brian Fowler

          That’s good to hear, I guess.

          Don’t supposed he ever apologized for everything he said on Fox during President Obama’s time in office?

          • He’s recanted a lot of what he’d said, and has explicitly stated that he’d played a role in dividing the country, for which he seems genuinely remorseful. His appearance on Full Frontal is pretty representative of what he’s been like lately, from what I’ve seen:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuSDfVRGI54

            This profile in The Atlantic is pretty good, too.

            The day after Trump’s victory, I checked in with Beck again. He said he saw “the seeds of what happened in Germany in 1933.” The question was whether the American people would “water them” with “hatred and division.” Did he feel partly responsible? “I’ll not only take my share of blame, I’ll take extra,” he answered. “If you want to blame me for him, that’s fine; I don’t believe it’s true, but it’s fine with me. Please just listen to the warnings now so we don’t continue to do this.”

            I haven’t followed him that closely, but he seems like a genuinely changed person. He’s understandably reticent about discussing it in any great detail, but IIRC, he’s alluded to having had mental health issues and/or issues with medication. I feel somewhat uncomfortable making pronouncements like this, not least because I’m not at all a psychological professional and don’t personally know the guy, but the impression I’m getting is that he was in the throes of untreated paranoid schizophrenia for the first several years of the Obama administration, and what we’re seeing now is what the disorder looks like after a person gets the treatment they need.

          • Brian Fowler

            Glenn Beck feels remorse and Donald Trump is President.

            Strange Times.

          • Red Bird

            Unfortunately his remorse doesn’t change anything. It just gives him an excuse.

    • Glenn “Raped and Murdered a Young Girl in 1990” Beck was the originator of the “stoking fears of low-information conservative TV voters for money” shtick. He’s kind of like the guy who first smashed a Jewish shop window being appalled by Auschwitz.

  • Ryan Denniston

    Don’t feel down Wonkers, this is still true!

    https://twitter.com/ColeLedford11/status/833809096956604416

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “The real problem with Irma was that it wasn’t all about me.”
    — Milo

    • Panika MCD

      “bigly same.” ~Tsarina Tic Tacs

  • BearGHAZI

    He would be SUCH an eloquent mouthpiece for the alt right, too bad he’s a pederasty klown!

  • TJ Barke

    “I will spend every waking moment of the rest of my life making the lives of journalists, professors, politicians, feminists, Black Lives Matter activists and other professional victims a living hell.”
    “Because I have absolutely nothing constructive, positive or helpful to add to society.”

    • yyyaz

      He’s a subtracter.

      • TJ Barke

        He’s a parasite.

    • OneYieldRegular

      ANY of those people could end up saving Milo’s life in the next hurricane, so, you know, answered prayers.

  • Moebym of the Returners

    I’m pretty relieved…for now.

    Tomorrow or Thursday, a fresh new round of hell* will begin.

    *nothing to do with Milo.

  • FlownΩver

    Something something hurricane blow job.

  • TJ Barke

    Hey Milo, this article applies to you: https://thebaffler.com/war-of-nerves/you-are-not-a-rebel

  • Daniel

    I’m waiting for his article about how awful and sexist it was to have replaced Hurricane Harvey with a female hurricane.

  • CATMAN

    If I were to call Milo a despicable pile of shit, would I be criticized for denigrating shit?

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Here, in these non-comments?

      YES.

  • theCryptofishist

    So, how many people did some sort of “Munc-house-n’s” rewrite on that joke?

    (Edited do to premature posting.)

  • Wolf Tracker

    90% of homes in Florida keys destroyed or damaged and assholes like Milo thinks it is funny to lie about his home to get donations and sympathy.

    Hope they charge him with fraud.

    • Paperless Tiger

      Impersonating a human?

      • tza

        Impersonating a person with a soul?

      • whitroth

        Wait, so he’s a new alien reptilian, and they’re using this body for training?

        I think they’re flunking, and will be sent back to the planet of the reptilian idiots in disgrace.

    • redarmyzombie

      It is against the commenting rules to say what I hope happens to this slimy little shit, so I’m going to have to settle and say I hope he gets lots of votes. Made out of live, angry wolverines.

  • JJ O’Shaughnessy

    Some day Milo is going to come out as straight.

    • BadKitty904

      From your mouth to God’s ear…

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Take him, please. We have too many to answer for as it is.

  • Thiazin Red

    Reading the Jenny Trout recaps of the ultra shitty new book Handbook for Mortals gave me an idea for a thing I would like to see.

    This thing would be a story from the POV of a normal person who suddenly finds themselves in a shitty self insert story. Their life is upended when everyone around them starts obsessively fawning over the new girl in town. Reality itself starts bending to accommodate her wishes. This person being the only one who is unaffected get branded a villain. I’m picturing someone like the Anna Kendrick character in the Twilight movies, who acts like a normal person and seems genuinely confused that everyone around her is obsessed with Bella. I think it could work as a horror-comedy.

    • Jamoche

      Someday I might actually write the Thursday Next Twilight crossover, where it’s the book that’s a vampire – the reason readers find Bella so “relatable” is that she’s actually a blank void, sucking up their personality, leaving them a walking shell who can do nothing but praise the series and attract new victims for the book.

    • Jamoche

      And having caught up: “This is so beyond the realm of possibility that I can no longer suspend disbelief. I have sprained my disbelief. I will have to have surgery to repair the tendons in my disbelief. My disbelief is going to require extensive physical therapy.”

  • WhoMe?

    Meh, looks like he’s spent the majority of his life already picking inappropriate hair colors. How will he find time to meaningfully antagonize the left.

    • BadKitty904

      Why would the Left care if he did?

  • BadKitty904

    No One Loves a Whiny Bottom

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Oh, I’m sure he identifies as ‘versatile.’ [snicker]

    • TJ Barke

      Shithead’s probably not even gay.

      • BadKitty904

        Oh, God, if ONLY…

      • OneYieldRegular

        One of my gay friends embraces the old meaning of that word just as much as the new one, which is something of which Milo appears to be constitutionally incapable of doing.

  • tza

    What a shitbiscuit.

  • Daniel

    So he’s going to turn all the people who gloated about his flattened house into an article about the so called tolerant left to expose, you know, how tolerating him doesn’t mean not wishing him ill. Point scored! Victory!

    Then for a short moment, for a little while, he’ll forget how much he loathes himself.

  • Bitter Scribe

    vacuous sack of Dep hair gel and bile

    God, Robyn, sometimes you just rock. I mean harder than usual.

  • bubbuhh
    • Snopes Shop

      BIRTH CONTROL

    • theCryptofishist

      Those hats look like butts. Which is redundant, in that picture.

      • theCryptofishist

        … Or… maybe, they’re ass hats.

    • jesterpunk

      Wouldn’t that make Milo a “cuck” to use their term? She is with Bill Mahar after all.

  • Ryan Denniston

    “unless he has some form of House Munchausen’s?”

    Didn’t one of the patients on House have Munchausen’s?

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Geeze, today was heavy on the scumbag white male scale, and full of women that have had to bear the brunt of their assholery. It has not made me love the world.

    I’m gonna go hug a kitty.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • jesterpunk

      We did elect one as PeeOTUS somehow so I dont see that happening anytime soon.

      • Bub, the cynical zombie

        Yeah, you’re right. That ship has sailed…

    • Three Finger Salute

      Thanks, O.J.’s lawyer.

  • Michael R
  • Bub, the cynical zombie
  • Lyly Sirivong
  • Ryan Denniston

    “This is a fully tooled-up talent factory and management company”

    Very well put!

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      They do indeed have the biggest tools.

  • Joe Beese

    Apple calling its stores ‘town squares’ is a pretentious farce

    Excruciating self-congratulation has always been part of Apple’s brand, but the company took this to new levels at today’s iPhone event.

    It started with a tribute to Steve Jobs that was unnerving in the depth of its veneration. As smiling photos of the company founder beamed down at the audience, we were told that Apple is not, in fact, one of the richest and most influential corporations of all time, but the embodiment of one man’s creative spirit. The revenue, the supply chains, the employees, the users — all an incarnation of Jobs.

    “His greatest expression would not be a singular product, but rather Apple itself,” said Cook.

    Even the auditorium the event took place in was framed as a mausoleum. It’s the last creative project touched by Jobs’ genius, we were told, and look how it shelters the faithful, called here to see the latest relics the great man bequeathed to the Earth.

    And then things got really crazy.

    https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/12/16296460/apple-self-love-iphonex-iphone8-event

    • BadKitty904

      These people need to get outside and get some fresh air/sunshine more often…

      • Three Finger Salute

        There’s an app for that too!

      • wide_stance_hubby

        See also, ‘failed Pokemon Go fad.’

        • Raan

          I’m just waiting for the weather to get bearable again.

    • theCryptofishist

      Wozniak liebullz?

    • Raan

      Oh fuck off with that shit.

    • TJ Barke

      Ugh…

    • Moebym of the Returners

      Gag me.

      One of the myriad reasons I haven’t given Apple any more money in years, and will not.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        It took me a long time and immense effort to get past all that cloying sycophancy and hero worshipping from the Mac faithful.TBH, my MBP is a really decent machine and I can definitely see the reason people love them, but my buying in happened despite the pathetic obsequiousness of the Apple fanbois, not because of them.

        • clubseal

          I’ve never understood the Apple hate. I’ve never understood the Apple love, either, other than some of the excellent shortcuts that help in page design that Windows is only just now beginning to emulate.
          I guess I’m just all around non-committal when it comes to tech supremacy. For instance, I own Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft video game consoles, all at once, and have never gotten into an argument about how one is more superior than the other. So it goes.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Don’t you know syncretism is blasphemy and you’re supposed to pick a tribe?!? Only a real fan gets into fisticuffs with their opponents, like the Yankees vs the Red Sox or the Star Wars vs Star Trek nerds!

            “Guys, be polite. It’s OK to like both. I do! Not only that, but I even have a BlackBerry! It’s not Apple, Microsoft or Google!” -Trudeau

            https://media.giphy.com/media/wyvQkOR30lmLe/giphy.gif

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            I like my MBP and my iPad air, though the MBP is a 2014 model and they’ve done stupid stuff to them since then (glad I got mine when I did). I also own an S7 Galaxy and the main reason for the IPad vs other tablets is due to esoteric third party software that was only written for IOS. I’ve also built and owned many Windoze machines and bought a few laptops that were well built and provisioned for far less than my MBP. They’re all tools- some tools do some tasks better than others- use that tool for that job. I seriously don’t get all the consumer gushing and loyalty.

        • Three Finger Salute

          I can’t stand iDildo-era corporate Apple. I loved my consumer-market Performa/LCIII and the school Apple IIs when I was a kid, but that was back when Macintoshing was creative, kitschy, and fun. A thriving dev scene and community ethos, with things like BMUG and Apple for Teachers. Now they really are Big Brother.

    • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

      If that’s the new town square, I’ll stick to traffic circles.

    • Thiazin Red

      The whole Jobs worship is insanely creepy.

    • Alternative Dog
      • Joe Beese

        THAT’S NOT ME! TAKE IT BACK!

    • SomeBigRedDog

      It’s a fucking phone

    • DainBramage
  • Panika MCD

    I need some more happy. please.

  • 3FingerPete

    “I will spend every waking moment of the
    rest of my life making the lives of journalists, professors,
    politicians, feminists, Black Lives Matter activists and other
    professional victims a living hell.”

    Concern face.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/df41bf32a63d31d997926b7aa952fa92a0cceee5d57ffd0a872b58005b58afc7.gif

    • TJ Barke

      Bastion!

    • Raan

      DULL SURPRISE!

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      RIP

      • Raan

        Press “F” to pay respects.

    • Joe Beese

      Why does anyone remember the 1990 It with fondness for any reason other than camp?

      • 3FingerPete

        IKR. Some of the worst acting and direction ever caught on video. I had no idea who this kid was until the gif got RIP responses.

        Still, the better Pennywise the Clown, though.

  • BadKitty904

    Trump’s Gift to Trump: $125 Million Tax Cut
    It’s Unclear What Trump’s Tax Plan Would Do – Other Than Put Hundreds of Millions in His Pocket
    The White House legislative director said Trump will reveal his tax returns after an IRS audit is finished.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-taxes-benefit_us_59b8082fe4b027c149e2da19?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

  • clairence

    You haven’t really lived until you’ve joked on social media about fake suffering from a natural disaster.

    • clubseal

      Note to self: I don’t want to live!
      h/t Dirty Work

    • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

      Especially to those of us who just went thru it. Can’t we get him deported or something?

  • Ryan Denniston

    Cruz says it was a STAFFER who liked the pr0n video. If I hadn’t read Robyn’s piece yesterday, I might believe him.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/cruz-says-staffer-mistakenly-liked-porn-video-twitter-n800646

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸
    • Wolf Tracker

      AND the staffer’s name and how much was he paid to take the fall?

      • clubseal

        Take the name of your first pet and the name of the street on which you grew up, and you’ll have his name.

        • Ryan Denniston

          Thomas Elm. Hmmm…

          • weighmaster

            Puff Avondale

          • Rasilom

            Midget Fourth Street sounds a bit to weirldy specific so I’m a gonna go with second pet and street for Scamper Fargo.

        • clubseal

          Hewey South Oregon.
          Doesn’t quite roll off the tongue. RIP my first hamster.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            Sorry for your loss.

          • clubseal

            I mean, he didn’t die recently. He lives on through the inspiration for his name, from Calvin and Hobbes’ “Hamster Hewey and the Gooey Kablooie.”

        • YoBunnyBunny

          Mickey Shine…

          Now that is such a porn name, so can’t use that… welp!

        • Msgr_MΩment

          Spot Furnace?

          • clubseal

            Sounds like a cartoon character designed to teach kids not to touch hot objects.

        • BadKitty904

          Freddie Hargill? Sounds like a small-time bookie…

        • ManchuCandidate

          So the “intern’s” name was No Name Calgary!

        • Kiri the Unicorn

          Nefertiti 19th?

        • Querolous

          Brownie Rural Route One

      • Ryan Denniston

        They say the matter is being dealt with internally. Apparently the staffer might lose access to his boss’ twitter? You know, if this happened to Trump, that would mean no more crazy tweets, because it’s obviously Cruz.

      • Raan

        Sum Yung Gai, and not being around Ted Cruz anymore.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “What I mean is, my staff is the reason that pr0n video was liked.”
      — Ted Cruz

    • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)

      Such a hard situation Cruz is stuck in.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Ed Murray (the now-former mayor of Seattle) has resigned.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    • BadKitty904

      Who and/or what was he caught doing?

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        5 men have accused him of molesting them when they were children.

        • BadKitty904

          And he genuinely thought no one would ever find out?

          • Raan

            So did Hastert.

          • BadKitty904

            I would expect it of a Republican.

          • Msgr_MΩment

            One’s wiener rarely considers this in the moment.

          • BadKitty904

            But when one is planning one’s campaign for public office, one should.

          • Msgr_MΩment

            You tell that to my wiener!

          • BadKitty904

            Um, thanks, but…

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            No one did for a few decades.

          • BadKitty904

            Point taken…

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Dammit…. Just dammit… A former Portland Mayor turned out to have committed a similar crime, though it came out after a statute of limitations… Molesting the 12-yr old neighborhood girl who babysat his kids…. Just Gawd Dammit….

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          unless they all accused him at once, WTF did it take until the fifth one before he resigned?

      • wide_stance_hubby

        Allegedly, he once showed up in an ER far from Seattle (for obvious reasons) with something. . .unusual. . .in his rectum.

        • BadKitty904

          Trump’s tax returns?

          • wide_stance_hubby

            And not the short form.

        • CindyinEncinitas

          l love that Saturday Night Live bit.

      • SomeBigRedDog

        He paid teenage boys to fuck him back in the . . . I’m not sure when. Eighties or nineties.

        • BadKitty904

          A poor choice for a career politician, I’d think.

          • SomeBigRedDog

            Shit just went to my go to Seattle blog. Now his cousin and a kid at a catholic group home are making accusations from the seventies as well. It’s these new allegations that prompted the resignation.

          • SomeBigRedDog

            Shittiest part is that this feeds right in to the “gay men are child molesters” homophobic nonsense.

          • BadKitty904

            Count on it. Though, statistically, the VAST majority of child molesters are heterosexual.

          • SomeBigRedDog

            “See? SEE? I TOLD YOU!” – Some asshole somewhere right now

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
  • Panika MCD

    found this after I asked for happies…

    https://www.facebook.com/vtdotco/videos/1329770847164754/

  • CindyinEncinitas

    I am a feminist, yet my life is not a living hell. What gives, Milo?

    • clairence

      “You’re doing it wrong.”

    • YoBunnyBunny

      He’s mistaken at what feminists consider a living hell?

    • cats530

      I hate Milo for his stupid washing machine canard (that feminism would never have occurred if someone hadn’t invented the washer). Wash your own skid-marked underwear, Milo!

    • Just wait ’til you’re forced to have a conversation with Milo!

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    “my house is gone.”

    Yeah, I remember house too:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LEgS8fCwXY

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Personally, I am not getting the punchline here,…

    OIC. So we are allowed to joke about punching fascists fuckfaces again. Noted.
    Where does the line start?

    • Panika MCD

      with votes?

  • georgiaburning

    “fully tooled-up talent factory” ??
    Doesn’t he mean fouled-up tool factory?

    • 3FingerPete

      I think it is some sort of chickenhawk thing. Maybe he’s starting his own boy band management firm.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      I think he meant to write “fully fucked-up fool factory” but his fingers were wet from all the flood waters swirling around his basement computer room.

  • Wolf Tracker

    So… Do we have pics of Mar a Largo and Rush’s mansion damage yet?

    I could use some happy time too.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “We’re not sure if Rush’s stash got washed out, but the local manatees are acting weird.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    secured $12 million from anonymous investors

    Never mind taste–money doesn’t buy common sense FFS.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Anonymous because none of them want to admit they know this knob?

    • mancityRed6

      the Mercers and who?

  • canes_pugnaces

    My guess is this little twerp makes everyone he meets life a living hell. No exceptions.

  • Moebym of the Returners

    This comment is pure beauty (and not in a snarky way).

    http://disq.us/p/1m4e36c

    • Three Finger Salute

      There should be a movie about them, and premiere as a double-matinee with Loving as the lead-up to it.

  • cats530

    Very OT, but it is open thread! One of my favorite experts on financial fraud/Wall Street/Beltway politics (Professor Bill Black):

    “I have written several times and documented that Third Way is a creature of, and devoted to, Wall Street’s CEOs. Third Way’s con is describing itself as “centrist.” Wall Street CEOs are not centrist. They include the world’s most powerful and destructive predators and parasites. The “left, right, center” metaphor does not apply to a group like Wall Street’s CEOs. The latest media sucker to fall for Third Way’s con is Politico. Politico fell whole hog, calling Third Way a “center-left think tank.” Fortunately, Google’s recent purge of New America Foundation scholars has proved that “think tanks” financed by elite corporate CEOs are oxymorons run by regular morons. The one thing you can never do as a scholar at a faux “think tank” like Third Way is actually think – and then make public the perfidy of the corporate CEOs that fund the non-think tank.

    Third Way is Wall Street on the Potomac, so it is preposterous to call it “center-left.” It keeps its corporate funders secret to maximize their corrupting influence. It is one of
    many Pete Peterson front groups.”

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/09/bill-black-politico-third-way-divorced-reality.html

  • mancityRed6

    he got his name in the news again, and fooled some people for a hot minute.
    and made other people waste their time proving him wrong.
    I’m sure he’s only upset with how quickly they did it.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef
    • TJ Barke

      Kobach supposedly got smacked down hard.

      • ariel_gee_398

        Now *that* is a video I would like on Twitter.

      • mancityRed6

        everybody has been saying, “look, you little dipshit, you’re just wrong.”
        but the New Hampshire guy is still on the commission. and they’ll have a hearing where people can talk but they’re only taking comments by email or snailmail. the place they’re holding it in can seat up to 150, but I’ve read the number of tickets that were given out were in the low double digits. I could be wrong on that, or it could be another number by now.

    • BadKitty904

      A farce established by a joke.

    • canes_pugnaces

      The Voter Suppression Commission?

      • Ryan Denniston

        The “Waaaahhh, I won but lost the popular vote” commission.

      • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)

        The “Donald Trump Is Butthurt Because He Lost The Popular Vote To That Bitch” Commission.

        • yyyaz

          I hope that butthurt festers to the point where it becomes all consuming and untreatable. Soon.

    • lowenufc

      Are they all republicans who think that Mass came up in force to vote in New Hampshite?

    • OrdinaryJoe

      What is the statute of limitations on misappropriation of federal funds? Because if we can elect a Dem in 2020, the next AG is going to have a target rich environment to work through.

      • tza

        I just had an imagine spot with Kamala Harris as AG, becoming the Oprah of Prosecutions.
        “YOU get sued! And YOU! Get sued! All of you are GETTING SUED!”

  • lowenufc

    So shorter version: fuck you Milo Yipyappyopolis.

    • cats530

      Hahaha! Never heard Yipyappyopolis. That suits him to a tee.

      • lowenufc

        I can never remember his name.
        Then again, I don’t want to.

        • cats530

          Neither do I!

        • He’s not worthy of that much memory allocation.

        • Kiri the Unicorn

          Runshisyapalot?

        • Three Finger Salute

          Istanbul, not Yipyappyyopolis?

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Used to live there before gentrification, when it was just Apolis.

      • Serai 1

        He’s a Pomeranian who longs to be a Boxer.

  • Sekhmet1

    What a pathetic, vacuous, miserable, psychopathic excuse for a life. You don’t stand for anything, just what you’re against, then what is the point? The Guardian aptly described him as a “smirking void”. I’d say oxygen thief, but I have it on good authority that oxygen thieves are insulted by the comparison.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      His basic thesis is that everyone should be immune to all insults, denigration or slander – like he fancies himself to be.

  • thewalkindude

    Don’t screw people over about pizza…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a3cc75e44df98ea9701359703b4a9920984190e94573dad773e342240198ffdf.jpg Pizza-hungry New Yorkers and other customers are fuming after shelling out as much as $75 for tickets to a pizza festival where attendees claimed they only got slivers of cold pizza slices at a “shady” Brooklyn parking lot — and now state prosecutors are launching an investigation

    • Joe Beese
    • TJ Barke

      Priorities, priorities…

    • BadKitty904

      Pizzagate Redux…

    • Lance Thrustwell

      They’ll slice you!

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      I guess they didn’t get the message that the entire thing was exposed as a fraud when there wasn’t even pizza in 2016. I guess they should have scrolled down a little further.

  • TakingAmes

    Well, he’s right about one thing. It’s definitely “tooled up.”

  • Picabo

    “Edith Windsor, “the gay-rights activist whose landmark Supreme Court case struck down the Defense of Marriage Act in 2013 and granted same-sex married couples federal recognition for the first time and rights to myriad federal benefits,” died today at the age of 88.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/12/us/edith-windsor-dead-same-sex-marriage-doma.html?smid=tw-share

    • cats530

      Sad. But she had a good long life and accomplished much.

    • ariel_gee_398

      Edie Windsor was with her partner, Thea Spyer, for over 40 years. Longer than any of Trump’s marriages by quite a bit. And when her spouse was diagnosed with a serious illness that required Edie take care of her as Thea’s body slowly failed, she didn’t divorce her like a common Newt Gingrich.

      After all that, after Thea died, she saw how unjust the system still was, fought to fix it, and won. She was a heckuva lady.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Here’s to Edith! She saw a victory in a well-fought battle. I salute her valor. Excuse the antique phrasing. No snark whatsoever.

  • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)

    Milo is an insecure piece of shit talking about “Daddy Bannon” and “Uncle Trump.”

  • Lance Thrustwell

    My open threads are anything but tedious, madame. {Sniffs haughtily}. Perhaps your estimation is coloured by the presence of trolls – I recommend you ignore them.

    • Panika MCD

      I thought we ditched all the trolls over on the multiple HRC threads…?

    • jesterpunk

      But the trolls are fun to play with for a few minutes and there are so many of them in the Hillary threads.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        The fish, swimming lazily in the barrels – how can one resist?

      • Panika MCD

        today they’re just making me sad about the state of the human species.

  • Panika MCD

    go home and make pasta or get something at the coffee shop?

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Pasta at home, with some wine while you make the pasta

      • Panika MCD

        I could get wine…or I could get some beer to go with my bourbon and eat crackers…

        I’m so off today. and I has to rely on the phone for interblags at home…and I’ve exceeded my data for the month.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Beer and bourbon is a better choice.. cheese and crackers… and some music you like… But… bourbon or beer first?

        • Bitter Scribe

          I thawed out a steak two days ago and so now I have to cook it for dinner or I’m out twelve bucks.

          First world problems, I know.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Respect the food…

      • Lance Thrustwell

        Yes!

    • janecita

      Coffee shop, definitely. Fuck cooking!

      • Panika MCD

        the Jazzy Jazz Pants did get a visit from one of her guardian angels at 1:45…I can stay for a bit.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    Star Trek: Discovery Cast, Trailer, Release Date, Timeline, and More News
    http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/star-trek/250209/star-trek-discovery-cast-trailer-release-date-timeline-and-more-news
    Huzzah! A New Star Trek!!!

    • TJ Barke

      It’s probably gonna suck. Hard.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I will watch 3 episodes before I decide if it sucks. Three strikes, and they’re out, it’s the American thing to do, LOL.

      • redarmyzombie

        Hopefully, not as hard as Enterprise did…

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        It’s making white nerd bros mad so I’m going to give it a chance.

        And come on. Michelle Yeoh.

    • Wolf Tracker

      Will it have Tribbles?

      • Angela Ruzzo

        No word on that, but it will have Harry Mudd.

        • RMKH

          Harcourt! Harcourt Fenton Mudd! Have you been drinking again?

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Haven’t started yet, give me time, it’s only 5:20 pm here. Speaking of…a friend in Seattle sent me a box of “Mr. Moxey’s Mints” that contain cannabis. I haven’t consumed cannabis in 38 years, so I think I will eat 1/2 a mint and see what happens. If I don’t post for a few days, then that was too much.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      I’m gonna give it a shot. Also still have to take a look at “The Orville”.

      • RMKH

        Trailer for Orville the other night looked redline on stupid.

      • Serai 1

        The Orville’s pretty good. I enjoyed it. Hope it holds up as a series.

  • OneYieldRegular

    “tooled-up talent”

    Yeah. That sounds about right.

    • TJ Barke

      Pretty sure he meant “barely talented tools” cuz that’s what he’ll have.

  • BadKitty904
  • theCryptofishist
    • Wolf Tracker

      Serious problem that has not been addressed because many clients are wealthy and white from Euro and US.

      • Red Bird

        That’s kind of the same reason the other type of slavery was not addressed.

      • theCryptofishist

        It exists in dirt poor places, too. Haiti, for instance. But yes, the powerful benefit, and don’t really want to stop it. (Not all powerful–yes, yes we know, but many and enough.)

    • janecita

      Me neither, saddest part, this happens all over the world.

    • BadKitty904

      I’m always surprised when people speak of “slavery” in the past tense. There are more slaves now then there have ever been in human history – approx. 27,000,000, per the U.N., I believe.

      • yyyaz

        And that number doesn’t include the modern version of indentured servitude: chronic low-wage workers trapped in poverty.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          Not to mention marriage.

  • janecita

    I left work very, very early today, migraine headache 😉, and I went to see “It,” it was surprisingly non-sucky. The girl that plays Beverly is luminous. Beautiful girl, great actress.

    • Serai 1

      It’s playing a couple of blocks from here. If the matinee is affordable, I might go see it there.

      • janecita

        You will like it, go see it.

        • Serai 1

          Oh, I read Alice, by the way. Really good, thanks for that!

          • janecita

            Sure!

  • Serai 1
    • SomeBigRedDog

      Water puppies and land puppies together!

  • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)
    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      And here come the rotten vegetables from Our Revolution…

      • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)

        That thread is chock full of them. Good lord!

    • TJ Barke

      Cuz multitasking is impossible.

      • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)

        Paul Ryan won’t let a single payer bill pass the House when they barely passed Trumpcare earlier this year. It’s a stupid political grandstanding stunt that the Democrats onboard should’ve stopped long ago.

        • TJ Barke

          Who says they have to try immediately? Build support now, work out the details and try for it in a better political climate. At this point, symbolic actions and rearguard actions are the best we can do.

          • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)

            Build support now, while Republicans control the House, Senate, and White House? What kind of sense does that make?

          • Bobathonic
          • Kooolest G

            almost as much sense as the GOP campaigning on repeal and replace for 7 years, when they knew Obama would just veto it. but it got them the presidency

          • TJ Barke

            So you don’t have to waste time trying to build support later… duh… do you not understand how anything works…

          • jowgajen

            That’s a great idea, and something we can all work on in our own community and by lobbying our elected officials and party.

            But lets not harass and publicly criticize well-placed members of our own party who don’t sign on immediately while we do it. That just doesn’t seem like a productive consensus building technique to me.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            Leave that to the bros and Russian bots.

          • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)

            Exactly. Nancy is pragmatic and more should follow her as opposed to Bernie the Grandstander.

          • tza

            Plus you know the whole Dream Act thing is kinda hanging on her and Schumer’s deal and words right now. That’s pretty damn time sensitive.

        • BadKitty904

          “stupid political grandstanding”

          That’d be Bernie, alright.

    • Wolf Tracker

      Bad move and now is the time to push Medicare for all. It will bring independents and liberals on board for 2018.

      • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)

        MFA isn’t happening as long as 240 Republicans control the House, and Ryan is the Speaker. It’s a matter of basic math.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Also the “social issues” holding it up, like the Hyde Amendment and coverage for LGBT-related concerns like transition services and medications having to do with HIV. Canada goes so far as to have their system pay for medicinal cannabis. In the US that’s called “don’t get greedy.”

        • Wolf Tracker

          If they get Trump on board it can happen and that is why I said we need that issue for 2018 to change those seats.

          • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)

            Doesn’t matter if Trump is onboard. Trump was onboard with infrastructure and both Ryan and McConnell said “no.”

    • jowgajen

      The ACA could easily be called PelosiCare. It’s her legacy and her crowning legislative achievement as Speaker. The Medicare bill is a Senate bill. So….pass it in the Senate (lol) and send it to the House and then see what she says. Otherwise you’re just nitpicking.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPPierce/status/907659603588116481

    ine people at once, or two more than the entire Manson family managed to kill in three different locations. In one day. In a suburban home. In Texas, a place with maximum Second Amendment freedoms. The motive wasn’t immediately apparent, but it turned out to be pretty much what you expected. From K5:

    Lane told WFAA that her daughter, 27-year-old Meredith Hight, owned the home and had recently filed for divorce from her husband. She says he showed up at her daughter’s home and opened fire.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Gut-punch of horror.

    • Moebym of the Returners

      “If I can’t have you, nobody can! And woe betide anyone who gets in my way!”

    • Serai 1

      I’m fed up with living in a country where women being blown to pieces by jealous fuckwads have rarely EVER made the news.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Yeah there’s a lot of women in the replies pointing out why this shooting in particular is getting no attention.

      • Three Finger Salute

        It’s not the right time to talk about gun control or domestic violence. We don’t want to unnecessarily politicize a tragic situation. Besides, what the American people really want is to move on and get back to the important business that really matters: tax cuts.

        -Paul Ryan, more or less

        https://media.giphy.com/media/uTUnnL0wRpcAg/giphy.gif

    • Panika MCD

      we don’t have maximum 2nd Amendment freedumbs. we don’t have premitless carry.

      and Plano has always been weird. we’re just not surprised anymore.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      I read about that. That’s what we get with lax gun laws. I’m sorry to say there will be more massacres.

  • cats530

    “I will spend every waking moment of the rest of my life making the
    lives of journalists, professors, politicians, feminists, Black Lives
    Matter activists and other professional victims a living hell.”

    What a pathetic ambition. But since you have the attention span of a house fly and basically you’re totally irrelevant and impotent, I don’t really see this campaign of yours as all that successful.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    For those who skipped the NYT article on how single payer could trip up the Dems, here’s a tl;dr:

    But they may want to learn the lessons of their opposition. Like “repeal and replace,” “single-payer” is a broadly popular slogan that papers over intraparty disagreements and wrenching policy choices. Republicans fumbled multiple attempts to replace the Affordable Care Act this year. If the Democrats eventually wrested back power, they could find themselves similarly factionalized and stymied over the details…

    “Repeal and replace went from a very popular idea, getting rid of Obamacare, to a real proposal with winners and losers and trade-offs,” said Drew Altman, the president of the Kaiser Family Foundation, a health policy research group. Mr. Altman said that Democrats were benefiting from that shift now, as the defenders of the status quo. A splashy new health care proposal, with its own winners and losers and trade-offs, could reverse that political momentum, he said. “If they immediately switch the focus to their own sweeping health care plan, they could lose that opportunity.”

    “That could be the Democrats’ version of the thing that they promised to do for seven years and couldn’t do.”

    Imagine if this article had been written about the New Deal in March 1933 FFS…

    • yyyaz

      It was.

      • Bobathonic

        Everything old is new again.

    • Crank Tango

      Concern trolling at its best, no?

    • JDM

      The details? Medicare or Medicaid now covers everyone. That’s it. Except for collecting those vials of sweet insurance company tears. You know, the guys who along with the banking industry plunged the world into the last recession.

      • gene108

        What if I end up paying more for Medicare or Medicaid, than my private insurance? For example, Medicare only pays 80% of medical expenses. If I have a surgery, my private Obamacare compliant insurance has an annual maximum out of pocket of about $12,000 (and mind you many private insurance policies have lower annual maximums, the 12k is the maximum allowed under Obamacare laws) Medicare has no maximum. It’s just 80%.

        If my surgery cost $100,000, I’m on the hook for $20,000 under Medicare, versus only $12,000 with private insurance.

        Also, Medicare reimbursement rates are lower than private insurance. Hospital X thus gets less money and Nurse Betty and Nurse Ratchet are taking 20% pay cuts.

        I’m sure those “selling points” will be off-set by drinking insurance company tears.

        • Kooolest G
        • jowgajen

          I would imagine a private market for supplemental insurance would develop nearly instantly. In fact we already have such a market for seniors on Medicare.

          • gene108

            I know there’ll be some sort of private insurance market. JDM posited insurance companies would be big losers with Medicare-for-All.

            I don’t see insurance companies losing much, even with Medicare-for-All.

            I think you’d have some sort of basic guaranteed coverage for all Americans, with private insurance provided to individuals or via employers.

          • jowgajen

            I think of Medicare For All as more of a floor for healthcare — you cannot drop below this coverage. Currently there is no floor, some folks have NO coverage, and NO protection from bankruptcy or indigency.

            One of the things that happened with OCare is that local public health clinics now worry less if someone can’t pay at all for care. With OCare 92% of their patients can pay some and it’s much easier to fund the gap for the lower number of people who can’t pay at all. They have grown their staffs and programs because there is a more reliable stream of funding for their community services.

            Same idea with Medicare for all – everyone can pay some, no one would be completely unable to pay, and the residual would often be manageable rather than life-destroying. There would still be a private market, likely one much more profitable and competitive than the one we currently have.

            But we do need to step away from the edge here on corporatizing medical care in general. And we should not support a world where sick people are seen first as an unlimited source of profits.

          • Arolpin

            Insurance company executives will be the big losers. We will still need benefits coordinators and claims adjusters and order entry people, they’ll just be government employees on a GS payscale and end up with a pension rather than a 401k heavily tilted towards employer stock that just took at 25% ‘correction’.

        • JDM

          So hospital X won’t be able to get away with charging $5 for a bandaid? That’s not a negative. The nurses don’t have to be paid less. The doctors certainly could be. Just make Medicaid and Medicare pay everything; that’s not a complicated thing. Everybody else in advanced nations manages to do it. I, unlike some folks, do not think America is uniquely incompetent.

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson

        Actually, thanks to asshole Republicans, Medicaid does not cover all who are eligible.

    • gene108

      I think it’s a good article.

      Medicare isn’t better than the private insurance people get from their employers. It’s not going to be a win for everybody.

      Taking away something people have and replacing it with something different is a big fucking deal.

      Look at the freak-out people had, when insurance companies started canceling plans, because they were not Obamacare compliant.

      Setting expectations of what Medicare-for-All can realistically achieve, what it will cost, and what people will gain or lose is important.

      You can’t over promise and under deliver, which is basically what the Republicans did with “repeal and replace”.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        That’s why I suggested in an earlier thread that the Dems are better off using it as a cudgel to beat the GOP with and to rally the base, rather than as a serious policy goal in the short term. Sure, work on achieving it (there will be bumps and growing pains, plan accordingly), but for now use it to wrest the Overton window back from debating whether to repeal the ACA or not to whether to move forward with SP or just improve the ACA.

        • jesterpunk

          The best thing would be to make changes to ACA to get where you want to go instead of throwing the whole thing out and (hopefully) starting over. That can be done in a more controlled fashion since its already 70% of the way there and its easier to get that last 30% instead of going back to square 1 and trying to get back to where you where.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Agreed

        • gene108

          I think you need it to be a serious policy goal, or you end up in the same place Republicans boxed themselves into with “repeal and replace”.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            In the longterm, yes. I don’t think it has to happen before 2020 though, as long as the push gets us to a place where the ACA is healthy and better functioning and not under constant attack.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          I’m up for Cudgels for Republicans…politically.

      • Kooolest G

        “Taking away something people have and replacing it with something different is a big fucking deal.”
        not if what you’re taking away from them is a 12k a year bill for their insurance

        • gene108

          Let’s assume Medicare is free (which it isn’t). Part B covers 80% of medical expenses, with no maximum.

          You get hit by a bus and need $100,000 in surgery and hospital stays. Medicare puts you out $20,000 in total.

          Private insurance has a $7,000 deductible. Private insurance puts you out $19,000.

          Here’s a link to what Medicare A&B cost and what’s covered https://www.medicare.gov/your-medicare-costs/costs-at-a-glance/costs-at-glance.html

          Medicare-for-all is not going to be “free healthcare for all”. Someone’s going to have to pay for it.

          • Kooolest G

            so if I get hit by a bus once a year on average then private insurance is better for me. oh and maybe when we get medicare for all we can make the deductible $0. and yes someone has to pay for it, it’s called taxes. rich people pay a little more, poor people pay a little less. canada spends as much per person on their socialized medicine as we do (medicare, medicaid and VA) but they don’t have a 12k a year insurance bill like I do

          • gene108

            That’d be great, if it can happen. All I am trying to say is single payer is not inherently superior. It does matter what the details are. Pointing out details matter is not concern trolling.

          • Rags

            This is why so many other countries are abandoning universal health care in favor of private insurance. Yeah. Right.

          • gene108

            Universal healthcare does not always equal single-payer. Germany and Switzerland have universal healthcare and have done it through private insurance.

            The devil is in the details. Single payer is not an automatic cure all.

        • Arolpin

          If you give people the CHOICE to pay $5k/year into Medicare rather than $12k/year to $BigInsurance, I suspect that you’ll get a significant number of those who buy their insurance on the open market to switch. People who get their insurance through work will probably stay on their plan, because some of the cost is covered by the employer.
          If you just say, “As of Jan 1, 2021, everyone will be on Medicare.” you’re going to have a revolution on your hands. It has to be a choice, and it has to cost less (eliminate the 20% profit margin, and eliminate the 16 layers of senior management) or cover more. The thing is that the federal government is actually pretty good at running large, complex organizations (or at least they were until Lard Dampnuts started putting the terminally stupid in charge), and they are really good at spending less money on executive salaries. If you cut the overhead, then you can either roll the savings into coverage or lower premiums.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Even the Liberal New York Times strikes again.

    • ltmcdies

      You know … it’s hard not step on a landline if you won’t admit they might be somewhere in the road

      • Beanz&Berryz

        But those Pink Phones are easy to spot…

        • Three Finger Salute

          Reach out and touch someone?

  • SayItWithWookies

    It looks like the lady who touched up that Spanish fresco of Jesus is at it again — this time doing a tribute to Diana Spencer in a little town called Chesterfield. And the photo below isn’t nearly as terrifying looking as the video at the top of the article:
    https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/AD27/production/_97772344_mediaitem97772343.jpg

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Gaa!

    • ltmcdies

      Well …. that’s terrifying

    • Shanzgood

      It looks more like Angela Merkel.

    • proudgrampa

      WT EVERLOVING F?

  • Panika MCD

    I fucking love the Texas Tribune. they’re getting a new office (either in the building I work out of or the one across the street) and they are livestreaming the removing of walls.

    https://www.facebook.com/texastribune/videos/10155458704070837/

    • Panika MCD

      also too: Molson Lite, Trib? really?

      • AJ Milne

        On behalf of Canada, I hereby extend a formal apology for all things Molson.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          What West Coast BC Vancouver Island beer should we get?

          • AJ Milne

            I don’t get to BC much.

            Only thing I remember trying from there was Granville Island’s stuff… because, y’know, I was _on_ Granville Island at the time. And it _was_ pretty tasty.

          • SomeBigRedDog

            It’s been a few years since I’ve been up there, but Canadian beer is wierdly mediocre. Its like the one thing that America does better. My advice if you want good beer in stop in Washington.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            We’ll be stocked up to the border-crossing limit… But it’ll be a full week on the boat…

          • SomeBigRedDog

            Stop at Chuckanut Brewing in Bellingham. One of my all-time favorites.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist
      • Beanz&Berryz

        Molson Lite!? IN Texas??? I’m headed to the land of Molson et al, but “Lite”?!

        • Three Finger Salute

          I don’t think it was Molson in the bottle, but I don’t want to know what else Ted left in there. It’s “lite” only because he never wants to go full Canada. (Nor does Canada want to go anywhere with him.)

        • Panika MCD

          I don’t know what that camera operator was thinking. if it’s the one I know, he’s getting it from me the next time I see him.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        I do all my demo in a salmon-colored dress…

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸
    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      You just know the dipshit in the White House doesn’t even know who she was

      • BadKitty904

        Or cares.

    • ltmcdies

      Look at that well thought out compassionate statement using words of more than two syllables

      Man I miss that

      RIP Ms Windsor

    • Serai 1

      That’s a President.

    • Rags

      I like the ‘countless small acts of persistence’ especially.

  • Serai 1

    So I watched the first episode of The Orville last night, and then thought about what I’d seen. Surprisingly enough, I liked it. It’s not what I thought it would be, which was a manic joke-throwing farce. It wasn’t as funny as I expected, and I mean that in a positive way. It’s more snarky than funny, and I appreciated the lack of an idealized future where everybody gets along yay! This felt more like real people with real bitchiness and real flaws. Sure, I laughed, but mostly it was “yep, I recognize that” snorting rather than out-and-out guffaws. I’ma keep watching it.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Watching it on Hulu now. Thanks for the reminder.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      I think the biggest thing going for it is that Seth MacFarlane admits he’s a Trekkie (he did a couple appearances as a background character in Star Trek: Enterprise), so he’s not going to skewer the franchise like he does everything else.

      • Serai 1

        Yeah, he’s been a Trekkie forever. That’s why the series exists – so he can go on Star Trek! It’s clearly an affectionate tribute, not a parody. (And I don’t mind things I like being skewered, so long as it’s funny and done well.)

    • tza

      The main complaint I’ve heard is people felt i seemed directionless, like it didn’t know what it wanted to be. Your thoughts?

      • Serai 1

        *eyeroll* People expect way too much of TV shows these days. They expect everything to be set and developed and perfect right out of the box, and that’s just not how it works. It’s only the first episode. Of course it doesn’t know what it is yet. What I saw was setting up the situation and introducing the characters, and that’s all I expected from the pilot.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Part 2: Watched it and I agree about the snark. The black guy asks, “Can I have soda on the bridge?” The white guy asks, “Can I wear shorts to work now?”
      As a manager in my past life, I can say that yes, both of those are questions I would expect. And I giggled.

  • BadKitty904
    • SomeBigRedDog

      Check your clean laundry. Have a feeling you’ll find that grease there.

      • jowgajen

        In a hairball.

    • Serai 1

      Be glad you didn’t find the pan licked clean. Pork fat poop is NASTY.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        My puppy likes it while warm, poured over kibble.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Grease angels!

      But it’s the tracks on the floor and furniture that are a nuisance.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      My cat Julius did that with white paint I had just applied to the window frames in the kitchen. I thought he was sleeping…he was definitely sleeping…but I turned my back to wash out the brush and next thing I knew there were white paw prints all across the countertop and the dining room rug and the living room rug and the bedroom carpet.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        That’s why I got a vasectomy…

      • eka

        green paint for my brat, prints still on the carpet. but the amusement of her agony as i soaked her to get the paint off her paws was strangely worth all the blood i had to shed to get it done.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          Oh, yeah, been there…my cat Munchie got into the heating ducts once. He went in a white cat, came out a dark grey cat. By the time I got him out I was laughing so hard I almost dropped him back in the ducts. Then he got a bath… I still have scars, but the ducts are a lot cleaner.

          • Shanzgood

            Good idea! My cat is already black!

      • Three Finger Salute

        Sounds like he wanted to play a game of Jules’ Clues.

      • BadKitty904

        Kitty was happy to help!

  • Zippy W Pinhead
    • proudgrampa

      I knew it all along.

  • Red Bird

    Life…a poetic poem about life
    by Red Bird

    Fucks!
    I lost all of the fucks I had.
    Where did those little fucks go?
    Who knows?
    Oh I know.
    They were thrown away the other day.
    As I thought about life
    And all the things I would say if I had the chance to say
    How I felt about life.

    So I sat down and thought about it.
    I spent a second on all the things that bothered me.
    From the people to the things to the situations
    That made my day more difficult.
    And I found that they could all be squeezed into one tiny
    Fuck it!
    Then my day was free.

    Fuck it!
    To the people who don’t think I have anything important to say.
    Fuck it!
    To the problems that never seem to go away.
    Fuck it!
    To the opinions of others that occupy too much of my time.
    Fuck it!
    To the strategery, misogyny, and idocracy of the corporate world.

    Madeline Albright!
    A woman!
    Said women should support women.
    She was right.

    So this little birdy said
    With all her might
    With all her faith in what she knows is right
    Fuck it y’all.

    And that was the last one she had to give.
    Goodnight.

  • TundraGrifter

    “This is a fully tooled-up talent factory…”

    I’ll buy that – fully “tooled-up,” indeed!

    • Lord Jim

      If Milo is involved, there will definitely be ONE tool in the place.

      • TundraGrifter

        Not the sharpest tool in the box – just another tool. A Dexter. A Turbo.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    For those who skipped the NYT article on how single payer could trip up the Dems, here’s a tl;dr:

    But they may want to learn the lessons of their opposition. Like “repeal and replace,” “single-payer” is a broadly popular slogan that papers over intraparty disagreements and wrenching policy choices. Republicans fumbled multiple attempts to replace the Affordable Care Act this year. If the Democrats eventually wrested back power, they could find themselves similarly factionalized and stymied over the details…

    “Repeal and replace went from a very popular idea, getting rid of Obamacare, to a real proposal with winners and losers and trade-offs,” said Drew Altman, the president of the Kaiser Family Foundation, a health policy research group. Mr. Altman said that Democrats were benefiting from that shift now, as the defenders of the status quo. A splashy new health care proposal, with its own winners and losers and trade-offs, could reverse that political momentum, he said. “If they immediately switch the focus to their own sweeping health care plan, they could lose that opportunity.”

    “That could be the Democrats’ version of the thing that they promised to do for seven years and couldn’t do.”

    Imagine if this article had been written about the New Deal in March 1933 FFS…

    • Jamoche

      “Running away from home went from a very popular idea, not having to do what mommy said, to … well, nothing at all, because 5 year old logic is stupid.”

    • Three Finger Salute

      Single payer hinges on a heartbreakingly unlikely contingency

      If the Democrats eventually wrested back power

      Bigly yuge IF.

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson

        We’ll turn things around, honey. We only have a majority of the voters, if we can just get them to the polls and get around the voter suppression measures!

    • Thiazin Red

      Right now its an empty gesture of support for the general idea. There is a zero percent chance that the proposal gets anywhere, so its something nice to say without having to work out any details right now.

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson

        I’d say now is a great time to work on the details though–work out the kinks so that when we do get a majority back, we can move on this thing.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Of course, the NYT fails to recognize that many of those “intraparty disagreements and wrenching policy choices” are mitigated by the general agreement among Democrats that meaningful access to health care is a basic civil right. Republicans couldn’t get to the “how” questions because a majority of their caucus doesn’t agree on the “why”.

    • Serai 1

      What’s wrong with a warning about what could go wrong? I think he’s talking sense, myself. It sounds like a nice idea, but it could very well turn into an endless quagmire. If we’re not ready and prepared for this to be a years-long, seemingly endless battle, we’re just opening ourselves up to failing miserably. There’s nothing wrong with weighing all the factors and being prepared. Or with learning from the mistakes of others.

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson

        I don’t mind a warning that this will be difficult–I’m pretty pissed at those in CA who are pissed that SB 562 got pulled for now until they take a closer look. I mind the tone of the article, which was more along the lines of “they might regret doing something!!!”

        Sooner or later, if the Dems are going to matter, we’ve got to step up to the plate and take a chance. A calculated, strategic chance, but a chance, if we are going to get things done.

      • Lord Jim

        Maybe it’s the infernal gall of the NYT lecturing Democrats on anything.

        • Serai 1

          True that. Still though, I think it’s wise to gird our loins for a very long fight. No way the GOP and all the entrenched interests are just going to roll over for this.

  • Looks like Seattle mayor Ed Murry is out.
    One sexual molestation accusation too many, apparently.

  • Three Finger Salute
    • mancityRed6

      they didn’t follow training, and they didn’t follow protocol. did _anything_ happen to them?

      • Three Finger Salute

        Paid administrative leave and a comfortable pension?

      • Lord Jim

        Same thing with Eric Garner. Cop used a chokehold that’s been against dept policy for over 20 yrs and can’t even get indicted.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      I wish I were surprised. Fuck.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    Someone should check and see if Milo filed a FEMA application.

  • Wolf Tracker

    Pasta shells with hamburger and 3 cheese sauce and more cheese. Garlic bread. Two bowls so Tazeroo can have some. Cold tall boy to wash it down.

    Now just need to find a movie to watch. Any suggestions?

    For the movie you perverts!

    • bubbuhh

      Ted Cruz has a suggestion.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Hunt for Red October… cuz Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates aren’t so dumb as to crash into freighters…

      • Wolf Tracker

        That sounds good and haven’t seen it since the original release.

        Thanks!

    • I’m hoping to be watching my copy of the newly restored version of The Lost World later tonight.

      If you have access to the TCM app, they have an unusual number of very good movies up right now.

  • Panika MCD

    “Thank you all,” Straus said upon taking the stage to long applause. “I feel like I’m finally having my own quinceañera.”

    for those who thought moderate Rs were extinct: this guy is not afraid of busting gender stereotypes like he busts bathroom bills.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2017/09/12/straus-tells-business-keep-fight-after-bathroom-bill-failure/?utm_campaign=trib-social&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=1505243386

    • Beanz&Berryz

      I so miss Good Old Moderate Republicans… We’d disagree on things, but we could figure out a mutually acceptable solution… We used to have alot of those here…

      • Panika MCD

        we gots lots in the TX House.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    When someone says “it wasn’t X, it was Y,” more often than not it was X:

    https://twitter.com/CillizzaCNN/status/907280905563144194

    • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)
      • Bub, the cynical zombie

        Cillizza is a flaming asshole. The kind who could always be relied on to restoke the “emails” flames if the fire was guttering down to embers.

      • Lord Jim

        Notice also how the Clinton Foundation got twice as much mention as Drumpf’s. “Crooked Hillary”. Nice job breaking it, MSM.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      It’s always Y’s fault. Especially if Y has the SRY gene.

    • jesterpunk

      Since Cillizza likes emojis I have the perfect one for all of his twits and articles.

      https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1061/1924/files/Poop_Emoji.png?9898922749706957214

      • The Flaming Carrot

        Chocolate yogurt?

        • jesterpunk

          I wouldn’t want to eat that.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      When Chris Cillizza says anything, more often than not it’s vacuous bullshit

    • Walter Wellstone

      What is it with this guy? Let it go, you creep.

    • Lord Jim

      I’ll say it again: She responded to it like the fucking family-size sack of nothingburgers that it was. Furthermore, FUCK YOU CILLYAZZ.

    • Wolf Tracker

      Weren’t you just pushing for ACA over Medicare for all and didn’t support Kamala?

      Just like to know people’s political motivations.

  • bookish

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/is-trump-ending-the-american-era/537888/?utm_source=nl-politics-daily-091217&silverid=MzYzNzMxNTQ1MzM4S0

    Trump seems incapable of restraining himself from insulting foreign leaders. His slogan “America First” harks back to the isolationists of 1940, and foreign leaders know it. He can read speeches written for him by others, as he did in Warsaw on July 6, but he cannot himself articulate a worldview that goes beyond a teenager’s bluster. He lays out his resentments, insecurities, and obsessions on Twitter for all to see, opening up a gold mine to foreign governments seeking to understand and manipulate the American president.

    Foreign governments have adapted. They flatter Trump outrageously. Their emissaries stay at his hotels and offer the Trump Organization abundant concessions (39 trademarks approved by China alone since Trump took office, including one for an escort service). They take him to military parades; they talk tough-guy-to-tough-guy; they show him the kind of deference that only someone without a center can crave. And so he flip-flops: Paris was no longer “so, so out of control, so dangerous” once he’d had dinner in the Eiffel Tower; Xi Jinping, during an April visit to Mar-a-Lago, went from being the leader of a parasitic country intent on ripping off American workers to being “a gentleman” who “wants to do the right thing.” (By July, Trump was back to bashing China, for doing “NOTHING” to help us.)

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
    • Shanzgood

      Hah!

      Dammit, though.

      • VirginiaWTalbert

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    • My OCD is triggered.

    • DainBramage

      One advantage of buying at a bookstore. You can inspect the merch.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Liked, retweeted, and followed!

    • proudgrampa

      OMG!!!!!!! I would definitely return THAT for a refund!!!

    • Jon Sussex

      The flaw is intentional. Only Allah is perfect.

      • Lord Jim

        Nice one. :)

        • JohnnieWHurwitz

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          • FlownΩver

            Please… tell us more!

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      Press out the crease and then put the dust jacket in a mylar cover. Problem solved. I have all of my hardcover dust jackets in mylar – and yes, I’m a tad OCD when it comes to my books.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/910ae39778a96046d123459fe35b24b326676729ece34028063c5392567d690a.jpg

      • Lord Jim

        I’ve done that. I like dust jackets. Plus the mylar covers make the book a tad more durable.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Oh lord. My retired librarian mom does that.

        • janecita

          When check out a book from the library, I fix every single imperfection before I return it. The librarian probably thinks that I’m the biggest dork ever.

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            My mom scolded me a few days ago for writing in books. My books. Books that I own. That I’ve acquired during these past 42 years of life. Scolded me.

          • janecita

            I would have done the same. Most books are sacred.

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            For me, books are a tool. I make notes in them. I underline. I use the living hell out of my books. An unused book is, to me, an unappreciated book.

          • YoBunnyBunny

            I have little nerd-gasms if I acquire a used book and there’s writings in the margin. It’s intimate on the level of being voyeuristic, knowing that somebody really did intellectually engage with the very same book that I’m reading.

            But ditto using the hell out of books. for any book, if I actually read it, I wrote in it, too. From my old college books, I can easily tell which books I read and which ones I never touched.

          • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

            I live in fear of the day my 12 year old daughter discovers some of my old books and the immature scrawls I made in the margins. They’re kind of like wonkette comments but only semi-literate and with more cuss words.

          • OneYieldRegular

            Give her a copy of “84 Charing Cross Road.” That’ll teach her to criticize people for writing in books.

          • coozledad

            I envy people who make notes and commentary in books. It reminds me I don’t have any unique critical thinking skills.

            Apparently Melville’s annotated copy of a complete edition of Shakespeare’s plays is a work of genius in itself.

          • LinGin

            Cooz, I beg of you to read the comments on Nancy’s latest post and contribute. Some of these people need an old-fashion Coozledad smackdown. (I post infrequently and would feel uncomfortable doing it myself, out of respect for Nancy.)

          • coozledad

            It’s become a sump of old mediocre dudes. The cult of Jeff Gill.

            There’s this selective amnesia about his racism, xenophobia and embrace of torture that I find galling. With a couple of exceptions I can’t even tell the difference between the old farts who post there. Is Beb Basset ? Or is Basset Brian when he’s had his sugar meds? Jackash is the resident Cokie Roberts/ Mara Liasson factor.

            It reminds me of suddenly recognizing that your high school will never give you the education the one across town where the university professors kids go is giving theirs. They’re getting the world sat in their lap. You’re getting football hangers on and Lynyrd Skynyrd.

            So you go smoke dope with the kids who can speak French.

          • LinGin

            I (mostly) agree with you. At least Jeff(tmmo) walks some of the walk by ministering to people who need guidance and help. Jackash is ok; I like Sherri, Scout, Deborah and JC Burns. And it’s still one of the more civilized sites due to Nancy.
            There was some of the “why doesn’t Hillary go away” stuff which makes me nuts but even more was equating Hillary to Adlai Stevenson. Hillary is not remotely like Stevenson who was a remote intellectual who was always above the political fray. Hillary, finally and with Bill’s tutoring, finally got into the down-and-dirty politics, as far as she was “allowed” to.
            Anyhoo, I am following you on other sites (although the amount of comments makes for a long slog). You are my id. :-)

          • Blackest Noobs

            you have a nick name. oooh most definitely.
            if it’s a public library..i am 150% sure they’ve given you a nick name.

          • janecita

            I don’t wanna know my nickname, those librarians seem kind of mean:-(

          • Blackest Noobs

            oooh they are….like the one you probably think is the nicest….yeah…that person is the worst.

      • (((Alt-Sedagive)))

        I, too, have OCD ticks reserved just for books.

        Makes things a wee bit irritating, particularly in bookstores.

      • Serai 1

        I was just gonna say, a Brodart would fix that right up.

      • Creepoman

        I think I just fucked everything up – I was under the impression the dust jackets are more of “wrapper” and threw out probably, oh, two dozen or so just last week.

      • OneYieldRegular

        I don’t lend my books to my friends. I don’t want to lose my books, and I don’t want to lose my friends.

        (stolen from some curmudgeony poster I saw somewhere)

    • Roadstergal

      Laughing and crying and punching things.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • jesterpunk

      Could you imagine… a fuck it i can’t even finish that. Cant wait for him to be impeached and take his entire cabinet and the republican party with him.

    • memzilla Ω

      *borrows Cally’s mic*
      OH FOR FUCK’S SAKE.
      *replaces mic*

    • Lord Jim

      What do you even get out of being such a horrible person? You are widely disliked and I doubt the job pays all THAT much money. Just…WTF?

      • Arolpin

        Well, what else is she qualified for? She can’t even be an evangelical grifter, because she’s a woman and her husband isn’t an active evangelical grifter. I guess there’s always assistant crack whore, but they pimps generally look for someone with a bit more integrity and self worth.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      I’m looking forward to Sara living up to her genetic potential, and also to seeing her in vertical stripes. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/541b6601046f7e0ca3b725bfae23bf28a495f216177b64339f700ab5400d6d9e.jpg

      • Shanzgood

        Green stripes!

  • DainBramage
    • Kiri the Unicorn

      Thanks!

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      Your tax dollars at work! Cassini has been a spectacular mission!

      • tomamitai

        Imagine what a world we’d live in if governments competed at serving
        their people and expanding human knowledge instead of at trying to blow
        each other up!

  • bookish

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-irma-prepared-20170912-story.html?utm_source=nl-politics-daily-091217&silverid=MzYzNzMxNTQ1MzM4S0

    One study in the journal Epidemiologic Reviews calculated that America suffered an average of 1,400 hurricane deaths per decade from 1910 to 1939, 700 deaths per decade from 1940 to 1969, and about 250 deaths per decade from 1970 to 1999.

    “The number of people killed in hurricanes halves about every 25 years, in spite of the fact that coastal populations have been increasing, because of what we’re doing with forecasting,” said Hugh Willoughby, a professor of meteorology at Florida International University in Miami.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Sounds like NOAA is doing its job…

      • RMKH

        Which is exactly why their funding is getting cut.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Irma did drift 50 miles to the west of the high probability track they were predicting.. those idiots…

          • JustDon’tSayDignity

            50 miles? Total crap forecast, right? For a storm that was 200 miles wide?

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Fucking morans. Can’t believe a thing they say…

      • Lord Jim

        Nuh uh. Means climate change is a hoax. Checkmate, libtard.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Proudly hoaxable!

      • Kooolest G

        I think it’s hilarious that our govt. agency that predicts floods is called noah

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Someone was on their game that day…

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        . . . making this the perfect time to take away their funding to Build the Hollow Gesture.

      • (((Alt-Sedagive)))

        Spoke to a NOAA scientist a few months ago; he said that Trump hadn’t gotten around to gutting them yet.

    • Wolf Tracker

      1,200 killed in Katrina from flooding alone.

      • Thiazin Red

        Average. We really need mandatory stats classes in school.

        • Wolf Tracker

          Sure if you spread anything out long enough you can make it look like nothing bad happened and they are doing their jobs.

          • Rags

            they are not doing their jobs? WTF? They really need to get down to the bowling alley stat!

  • Walter Wellstone

    Grifters gonna grift. Milo is a grifter. That’s what he’s gonna do.

  • So, anyone else being attacked by onion ninjas while reading their copy of a certain new book? Stupid onion ninjas…

    • gene108

      I’m still too traumatized by the events of November 8, 2016 to want to re-examine what happened then.

      • Thiazin Red

        I still haven’t read the concession email.

  • AJ Milne

    Probably already mentioned, somewhere, but Hillz was on Pod Save America this morning. Nice interview… I think. (Was a bit distracted by work stuff, so wasn’t concentrating as well as I’d like, will have to re-listen later.)

    • jesterpunk

      Listening to it now, thanks.

    • Roadstergal

      Ooh, will download and listen at the gym tomorrow.

    • Lord Jim

      Thanks so much for the tip!

  • ltmcdies

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/907685758663872512

    Ok Internets… who wants to tweet the first sentence of Hillary’s book at Donnie Two Scoops

    I seem to recall some rather snotty Brit bragging he’d never read Harry Potter and … well… you know the response

    • Three Finger Salute

      Can’t see it. Is it “Fuck You”?

      • ltmcdies

        I am still sad Hillary didn’t make that her book title

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      We all know what happened. Due to a great deal of media fuckery, Russian jiggery-pokery, billions of dollars of conservative greedhead cash, an anachronistic electoral system and 30 years of completely unprincipled and mendacious Republican attacks on Hillary Clinton, a grossly incompetent, profoundly ignorant, venal sexual predator was elected president.

      Murka!

      • Lord Jim

        Idn’t she GREAT?!

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      that’s OK Donnie, you can read the articles of impeachment instead

    • Jamoche

      Huckabee Sanders not sure if Trump can read, but would never admit any flaws in Glorious Leader.

  • Hemp Dogbane

    This reminder of his existence makes me want to buy his book or otherwise monetize him. Does he have a book?

    • The Flaming Carrot

      Would monetizing him involve turning him into paper, printing colorful pictures on him, and sending him through a slicer? (with votes) If so, I’m all for it.

      • proudgrampa

        Money IS pieces of paper with pictures of dead people on them…

  • JMP

    If mods are reading; yesterday’s thread on Clinton’s book – https://wonkette.com/622774/defiant-hillary-clinton-still-releasing-book-tuesday-even-though-at-least-10-men-think-she-shouldnt – has gotten a bunch of trolls, but now one of the white supremacists is actually posting images of Trayvon Martin’s body and really needs to be gone right now.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Jesus. Did you flag them?

      • JMP

        Yep, and that one I actually reported to Disqus.

    • Anna Rompage

      Herb, we need a clean up on aisle 6….

    • Three Finger Salute
    • shivaskeeper

      Flag and block.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      JFC. I’m heading out the door but will flag that one as well before I go.

      • Invisible Bunyip

        It’s still there. I can’t even flag it to Disqus because “posting pictures of dead innocent people and laughing about it” isn’t one of their categories. Even more bizarre, “inappropriate profile” is. So your user icon can’t be evil, but your content can.

        • Shanzgood

          I’d go with the “targeted harassment” option.

          • Invisible Bunyip

            The problem is that he’s posting in little pieces – like a pic with no text – so any one post doesn’t fit the criteria. I don’t have faith that Disqus will examine the whole thread for context.

            However I’m going to (briefly) unblock him and go do the report anyway. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • Elvis Causticfellow

    I did everything I needed to do today. I would give myself a blowjob if I could, just for being awesome.

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      I can help you with that.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      You should give Steve Bannon a call. He might have some useful tips.

    • Shanzgood

      If you could give yourself a beej, you probably wouldn’t have gotten much else done today.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        True.. This or that? Hmmmm…

      • Elvis Causticfellow

        Louis C. K. has a story about this time he got it into his mind that what he really really wanted was a trumpet. It’s not like he played trumpet as a kid, or knew anything about playing it, all he knew was that it would just be fucking awesome to own a really nice trumpet. So he went to Sam Ash and, with money he did not have, bought a trumpet with an already-overdrawn credit card. Not just a lame beginner’s trumpet, he didn’t want that, he wanted the most beautiful brassy trumpet in the store. So he happily took it home, set it on the mantle, and sat down to masturbate, as one will.

        And then after he was finished, he reflected that if he’d just beaten off in the first place, he never woulda bought that trumpet.

        • Shanzgood

          That’s…um. Well.

        • Jon Sussex

          Thus another lad discovers the true meaning of horny.

  • Three Finger Salute

    So much for “don’t be evil.” Anyone need one more reason to hate Google besides Systematizer Bro and enabling Russian psy-ops all over YouTube?

    Google is capitalizing off Duterte’s horrific drug war in the Philippines

    The Google Play store is hosting games (some rated “E” for “Everyone”) glorifying the president’s sickening, murderous drug war. It’s time for Google to take down these games. There are several games pitting Duterte against “zombies,” capitalizing on his stigmatizing and inhumane reference to people who are struggling with addiction – people he was saying he wanted to get rid of en masse should he become president. He actually said this last year: “If you know of any addicts, go ahead and kill them yourself as getting their parents to do it would be too painful.” The top game has over 1 million downloads and 33,000 reviews.

    • Ryan Denniston

      Jesus. And here I thought they were evil because Chrome keeps making itself my default browser against my wishes and best efforts to prevent it.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Ditch it and go with a Mozilla derivative instead, like Palemoon or even Firefox itself (Waterfox is a fork for x64). Google is a blight.

        • Serai 1

          The Mozilla derivatives have gotten overblown and sludgy. Opera’s a pretty good replacement, and it comes with a VPN.

          • tomamitai

            I don’t know if I’d trust a free VPN service. I use a paid one that says they don’t and won’t log. When Russia passed a law requiring logging, they discontinued providing exit portals in Russia, rather than comply with the new law.

    • Serai 1

      Because of course they are. Silicon Valley is really turning out to be a snake pit.

  • Kooolest G

    notice all the heads in the room are bowed. they’re fucking praying. QUIT PRAYING AND FUCKING DO SOMETHING!!!!!!! oh and taking a picture while a bunch of charlatans are pretending to pray is kind of a no no in the bible…..something something hypocrites
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/32311f9cf81d8a76bea1c4549ff068e7eb83ea0c01387f3d0f9fe173972f32f7.png

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • Serai 1

      I much prefer he take his time and get it RIGHT. Last thing we want is for Twitler to wiggle away because of a technicality.

      • Roadstergal

        I’m so torn. It has to be good, it has to be airtight. But the longer it takes, the more Trump destroys our country.

        I have to just trust the judgment of folk who are a million times better at The Law than I am. Mueller seems to be one of those.

        • Serai 1

          Yeah, this isn’t going to be done in a few months. It may not be done in his first term. Remember the Watergate scandal was two years from start to finish. These things take time to do well.

  • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)
    • Serai 1

      It BETTER be public. None of this closed-door crap.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
  • Ok wonkers, i have to go do more work. Hopefully back later!

  • “This isn’t some vanity nameplate on a
    personal blog. This is a fully tooled-up talent factory and management
    company dedicated to the destruction of political correctness and the
    progressive left.”

    In other words, some Gamergate retreads who never amounted to anything ever. I doubt pedo-Milo is going to gain any traction, what with his pederasty apologia.

    • Roadstergal

      He’s an Islamophobe, so he has a lot of traction among white bros of many stripes. I’ve been losing a lot of respect for Bill Maher, but it took a major dive when I saw the kid gloves he treated Milo with. I think there’s a Venn diagram of pseudo-leftists and real-right-ists who like the cut of his jib.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Horseshoe theory

      • clubseal

        It’s a bit terrifying how all one has to do to gain a following is be openly hostile to anyone who looks like they might be Muslim.
        Right Wing Helper: Just add Islamophobia!

  • bookish

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/johnhudson/russia-sought-a-broad-reset-with-trump-secret-document-shows?utm_term=.coqELB9Wx#.erjPQeqvn

    WASHINGTON – In the third month of Donald Trump’s presidency, Vladimir Putin dispatched one of his diplomats to the State Department to deliver a bold proposition: The full normalization of relations between the United States and Russia across all major branches of government.

    The proposal, spelled out in a detailed document obtained by BuzzFeed News, called for the wholesale restoration of diplomatic, military and intelligence channels severed between the two countries after Russia’s military interventions in Ukraine and Syria.

    The broad scope of the Kremlin’s reset plan came with an ambitious launch date: immediately.

    • Kooolest G

      I’m guessing the reset plan also came with an ambitious “or else” (pee pee tape)

    • Three Finger Salute

      (Vlad bribes Donnie with a Happy Meal)

      Trump: “Sure. Hey, you want Alaska while we’re at it? Go in there and take all that oil. I have a new found friend who’ll even let you look around the backyard.”

      (tanks roll through into B.C.)

      Trudeau: “OH, YOU PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!”

  • WotsAllThisThen

    You know what would make professors’ lives a living hell? If Milo enrolled in school.

  • WomanInThePersistence

    So I just got home from work, and looked at Wonkette. Judging by number of non comments, should I assume some hot Bernie Bro action on the Bernies’s not the Messiah thread?

    • Serai 1

      Oh yeah. Tons of trollery today.

    • Shanzgood

      DSFB is stocked for MONTHS now.

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      Would you believe it was just a lot of recipes being shared?

      • WomanInThePersistence

        No. But there are now some crafting tips for this Mommyblog.

        • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

          Nice job! You have brought fulfillment and positive direction to a troll’s formerly sad life!

          What? It could happen!

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Why is this Milo prick still here? Someone should let him incite a riot, then have his worthless ass punted out of the fucking country.

    After a suitable stay in an ICE detention camp, of course.

    • Walter Wellstone

      Wouldn’t it be interesting if he overstayed his visa? Once Brainfart fired his ass his work visa should have expired. Who’s he working for now?

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        He’s here on an O-1, but other than that, I dunno.

        • Ωbjectifier

          The O-1 nonimmigrant visa is for the individual who possesses extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics, or who has a demonstrated record of extraordinary achievement in the motion picture or television industry and has been recognized nationally or internationally for those achievements.
          What??!!

          • Shanzgood

            Scuse me?!

          • tomamitai

            He’s got an extraordinary talent for making an ass of himself, does that count?

          • Lord Jim

            Clearly fraudulently obtained.

    • jesterpunk

      He isnt a useful contributor to the US economy and is trying to radicalize people here. He is also conning people out of money like his college fund scam that got him kicked off of the deplorable sub on reddit.

  • Serai 1
    • clubseal

      “Dog imitates baby; lives at home for 20 years”

      • tomamitai

        Spends rest of life paying off student loans.

        • clubseal

          Starts vlog where he complains about his favorite artists selling out.

    • bubbuhh

      wowzles wif wolves

  • jesterpunk

    Hillary makes a great point, “If your going to advocate for something you have to be able to explain it and answer questions about the policies.” Basically buzzword bingo doesnt work, you have to have a detailed plan that can be explained and covers how to do it.

    • Roadstergal

      Ideally, yes.

      In reality, catchphrases win out. :/

      • jesterpunk

        It has to fit on a bumper sticker and sound cool.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Unfortunately, pundits don’t like the smart kids.

      • jesterpunk

        I hate the fact that is true.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      If that were true bumper stickers wouldn’t be popular. People like the catchphrase. It makes them feel better about themselves. Remember those lame “Power of Pride” bumper stickers during the Iraq War? No one stopped to think, “What the fuck does that mean?” They just slapped it to their car and went “Fuck Yeah!”

      • jesterpunk

        I must be weird, I want to know some of the details about a plan and how they plan on doing it. Especially when it comes to something as complicated as healthcare or social security or taxes. But your right so many just want bumper sticker slogans and thats it.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Bumper stickers make me wonder WTF do people think… Deciding anything based on a bumper sticker…

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          Many people’s entire cognitive capacity from moment to moment is about the same amount of information content as a bumper sticker. Anything more and their eyes glaze.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            oh… hopefully that’s not too many…

    • Wolf Tracker

      If she understood that why did she lose to Obama and Trump?

      Just having a plan without integrity to make that plan happen does not work.

      Obama had integrity and Trump was a better liar able to convince people he had integrity.

      • Lefty Wright

        Because the news media did not want to hear any plans. They were locked in on her emails. In fact, they did not want to hear of plans from any candidate. And all of the others obliged them, including Bernie. Lots of promises with no idea how to implement them. Empty promises were the key to this election. I doubt if it will get any better since some people still insist on promises with no plans, even after the 7 year old attack on the ACA finally fell from the weight of actual facts that were evident to anyone with half a brain 7 years ago.

        • Wolf Tracker

          Only Bernie did have detailed plans and lost because he was labeled a communist by DNC and Reps and the media so let’s be honest about that.

          Clinton adopted almost all of Bernies plans after the primary but didn’t have the integrity to pull it off.

          That is just a reality you need to accept.

          • Lefty Wright

            What details? His Medicare for All budget and tax plans were so full of holes that boat would have never gotten out of drydock. He did not even come up with details on how it would work. Fee for service, with negotiated fees? Mandated fees like Medicare and Medicaid now have? A nationalized system like Britain? How about the fact that Medicare now is a mix of public and private insurance. The drug policies are private, and unless you want to be on the hook for 20% of everything, you need a supplemental policy. The public part costs a monthly premium for anything except direct hospital bills, and is supplemented by a 2.9% payroll tax on every wage earner with no income cap. And only covers people 65 and up and the people disabled under Social Security rules after 29 months. So what would a system that covered everyone cost in tax increases? While still needing private insurance to cover the gaps.

            His cost estimates were way low, his revenue projections were way high. And largely based on a projected 5.3% average economic growth rate for 10 years. Yet economists scoff at Trump’s claim of a 3% average growth rate. Even with that, many economists predicted up to a $12 trillion dollar increase in the national debt under his proposals. Notice that he has yet to roll out his latest proposal.

            No, this Medicare for All is a good idea, but it will not be simple or quick. And it will not yield the 30% to 50% savings some advocates claim. So far, no one has come up with any real details on it, including Bernie.

      • Blackest Noobs

        eh? dude you’re kinda missing out on the fact…we’re pretty racist in this country but goddamn we are some fuckin’ dickish misogynists.

        we fuckin’ hate women.

        Trump only won cuz Whiteys got their panties in a twist over a Black President, they just double’d down on their deplorable personalities…it’s like they’re sooo obtuse about their situation…they think its a victory roar…
        it’s the gasp of death…and then Hillz is a woman….dude…he barely fuckin’ won….barely…not bigly….barely won.

    • Elvis Causticfellow

      I remember the times when if you were going to advocate for something you had to be able to explain it.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Buzzword bingo works for Trump. After a fashion.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Can someone hep me to the Ted Cruz/Campbell’s soup thing?

    • Ωbjectifier

      When I married Ted, we got back from our honeymoon, and he went off to the store and came home by himself. And I was completely shocked to see that he arrived back at our apartment with literally 100 cans of Campbell’s Chunky soup. I never bought 100 of anything.
      This was shocking to me, so we had a tough conversation about it. I said, “You don’t buy 100 of anything, much less canned soup. We can’t do this. I’ll be making things.” He said, “No, I know you. You won’t be making things.”

      • Raan

        WHY ARE YOU LOOKING FOR CLOTHES AT THE SOUP STORE

        • Panika MCD

          because it is HEB!

      • Panika MCD

        she made his career.

      • Elvis Causticfellow

        Do you think he was trying to tell her something by making the soup “chunky”?

      • Beanz&Berryz

        I understand less now…

    • Rags
    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Here is a Google Search. Enjoy!

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      Well, it’s like this. You remember E.T. the extra-terrestrial, right? He loved those Reeses Pieces. Couldn’t get enough of them. Got lured right out of a safe shed, because they were so delicious. Granted, that was a fictional movie, and that was probably mostly just a blatant product placement intended to sell candies. But I digress. You get the idea, clearly enough.

      So Ted Cruz apparently ran out right after his honeymoon and bought a hundred cans of Campbells Chunky soup. This tale was told by his wife during his presidential campaign, in a story that probably was intended to humanize him in some way. Maybe it was even intended to make him seem normal?

      Anyway, it’s obvious: Space Aliens love commercial food products. They consume them in mass quantities, as the Coneheads documentaries show.

      That, or Ted Cruz is in the pocket of Big Soup.

  • Panika MCD

    uh oh, sketti-oh part 1: Hurricane Jazzy strikes again! not only did I forget to turn on the AC before leaving the apt. so it smelled like ass in here when the Jazz Pants’ guardian angel got here to walk her, but said guardian angel bought her Jazzisty an Easy Walker harness and left it clipped to her crate…Jazzy proceeded in destroying it.

    oopsie poopsie part 2: Calliope Jane has an owie on her little doodle butt and I can’t tell if it’s from her playing too rough or if it is a bug bite.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Bourbon first…

      • Panika MCD

        I’m bakin’ a pizza.

        • natoslug

          Bourbon pizza sounds challenging. But totally worth it.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            The other on toppingz?

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Well, I guess that goes in the “lesson learned” file.

  • Mormos

    “dedicated to the destruction of [treating people with respect]

    “I will spend every waking moment of the rest of my life making the lives of [minorities] a living hell.”

    decoding the dog whistle

    • OrG

      No.

  • Walter Wellstone

    “I will spend every waking moment of the rest of my life making the lives of journalists, professors, politicians, feminists, Black Lives Matter activists and other professional victims a living hell.”

    And he expects no one will fight back? Poor thing; he has no idea.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      I read it as “every wanking moment…”

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      I want to make every waking moment of the rest of Milo’s life to be a living Hell. Furthermore, I want him to live a really long time. At least a few million years.

      I am a terrible person.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        You are a good person. And he’s simply not worth that kind of effort.

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          Well, thank you. And you are right about the effort thing. Luckily for Cruz, he isn’t a mosquito landing on my arm seeking a meal. {{{WHAP!!!}}} That would be the appropriate level of effort. The bruise would be worth it!

    • tomamitai

      So he’s taking a vow of chastity, or does he only plan to have sex in his sleep?

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      First problem might be that there are more of them than there are of him.

      I don’t think he quite knows how to math very high.

  • Elvis Causticfellow

    Are there any Pittsburghers on Wonkette? I’m going to be at the Black Forge Coffeehouse on Thursday evening, photographing my buddy’s gig.

    • Shanzgood

      Baconz is.

      • Elvis Causticfellow

        Tell him to get his ass over there! The band is called (Ex)Tension, for some goddamned reason.

        • Shanzgood

          What kind of music do they play?

          • Elvis Causticfellow

            It’s spoken word/performance over electronic soundscapes.

            Hello?
            Hello? Anyone still listening?

          • Beanz&Berryz

            I hear you… oooohhh weeeee…. ooohhhh weeeee

          • Shanzgood

            Huh…well, I’ll tell him and see if he wants to go out. It sounds weird so he might like it.

          • Elvis Causticfellow

            It is weird and dark and funny! If you can understand the words!

    • tomamitai

      Looks like they offended some right wing snowflakes with their loyalty punch cards!

      • Ωbjectifier

        Walnutz didn’t make the cut, disappointing.

  • memzilla Ω

    It’s like a Jewish Little Rascals!
    (photo by Ben Shahn for the Farm Security Administration, 1938.)
    . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/519746d940057e51d7cc7a9315070c8aeeb62839bf818e3b487bb1d570a52294.jpg

    • Swampgas_Man

      Now I want that instead of what I’m eating.

    • ladycat713

      I both want to order a dollar’s worth and correct their sign .

  • Doug Langley

    Uneventful day at work. One thing: boss walked by and asked why I was filing a certain way. I explained. She said, “Okay, good idea.”

    I’ll take it.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Wow! From your recent comments, I would never imaging your boss doing that. Maybe you should get a lottery ticket or something…no, dumb idea. You don’t want to jinx things.

      • Doug Langley

        Well, we all have moments of weakness.

    • clubseal

      “Because if I file differently, I won’t get through the bars.”

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      Oh shit.
      Let’s hope it holds, and tomorrow you’re not going to have to re-file all the things in order of paper thickness, or staple angle, or something.

      • Doug Langley

        Gee, thanks. Now I’ll have nightmares I filed everything out of alphabetical and she finds out.

  • jaspersdad

    Milo is boring.

    I can’t think of a better insult for the little attention whore.

    • TJ Barke

      He’s definitely tedious.

  • Panika MCD

    TJ!!!! I need you to come to TX and look at Calliope Jane’s butt.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      That’s just too ripe to not get a snarky comment. However, today, I shall refrain.

      • Panika MCD

        she flashes her little yoni at everyone, but won’t let me take a picture of the owie. bitches be crazy.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Shyness with cameras about seems to be a thing…

          • Panika MCD

            have you seen her pictures? she ain’t camera shy.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            at THAT end…

        • What species?

          • Panika MCD

            dog.

          • Where’s the bite/scratch?

          • Panika MCD

            overlapping her butt fur swirl on the right.

      • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

        Yes, after all it is Ted Cruz Cranksit Day! Have some respect!

    • TJ Barke

      No…

      • Shanzgood

        Good answer.

        • Panika MCD

          (hey, I was going to introduce him to some of my single lady friends!)

          • TJ Barke

            I wouldn’t bother, I have nothing to offer any of them.

          • Panika MCD

            you have snark!

          • TJ Barke

            And nothing else.

          • Panika MCD

            you have smarts!

          • TJ Barke

            That’s not worth much when compared with all my various negatives.

          • Opposites attract, remember.

          • TJ Barke

            I really don’t want to end up being someone’s burden.

          • Panika MCD

            I’m not even gonna argue. I think you very much underestimate yourself.

          • TJ Barke

            I fear not.

          • Panika MCD

            could you see anything in that photo?

          • TJ Barke

            Not really, it could be some sort of bite, but I wouldn’t worry until it starts to swell.

          • Panika MCD

            yeah. I cleaned it off really well and I still can’t tell what it is. made her lie there with triple antibiotic on in for an hour also. if all else fails, I’ll take her to the vet.

          • Dg Hacket

            Sometimes a little snark is all you need!

          • Shanzgood

            (Oh, shit, sorry!)

      • Panika MCD

        it’s not the foster! I can’t tell if this is a scratch or bite!

        • TJ Barke

          Wait, what?

          • Panika MCD

            the foster is the one with prolapse problems (hopefully no more). Callie is my dog and I can’t tell if she got a bite from something or was just playing too rough with the foster.

          • TJ Barke

            What is wrong with Calliope Jane’s butt?

          • Panika MCD

            she has an owie and I can’t tell if it is a mosquito bite, a spider bite or if she was just playing too rough with Jazzy…

          • TJ Barke

            You sure It’s not an anal gland abcess or something?

          • Panika MCD

            I don’t think so, but I’ve never had problems with those.

          • TJ Barke

            Where on the butt is it?

          • Panika MCD

            to the right of the grundle (don’t know the scientific term).

          • TJ Barke

            Is it at roughly the 5 o’clock position below the pooper?

          • Panika MCD

            closer to 4 and further off to the side.

          • TJ Barke

            Well then I’m not sure.

          • Panika MCD

            me neither. I can’t tell if this brown dot is a scab from playing or a brown recluse bite. if it’s just a scab, then she may have also been bitten by a mosquito or some of the skin nearby got irritated (she does have super sensitive skin). the scab is like halfway between a scrape and a brown recluse bite looking.

          • TJ Barke

            I would need to see it before I could say anymore.

          • Panika MCD

            letting her calm down before I try taking a photo again. I can’t think of anywhere we’ve been that she could have been exposed to a brown recluse…unless there’s one in the apartment. (I don’t react to them.)

          • Panika MCD

            the camera on my phone sucks, but you can kinda see the red spot with the brown spot off to the side. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9adafec9c9b6cc5c8b8bb5a1f43de1c1373c63c08fefc34b4903ebe156a22cfd.jpg

          • If she’s sensitive any type of spider bite could cause a reaction. Do you have alot of brown recluse spiders?https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f21ab756fb7d25e9a8236efea2da6ad0080d11797e1dd3ce6cba0c8cc5bbf0bb.jpg

          • Panika MCD

            in Central TX? boatloads. but they usually stick to sheds and under decks.

          • What kind of pooch?

          • Panika MCD

            fox terrier mix.

          • Dawww……
            And… hmmm…. it’s a mystery…

          • Panika MCD
          • Is she chewing it?

          • Panika MCD

            no.

          • Is it a red bare spot?

          • Panika MCD

            no.

          • Panika MCD

            like right next to the fur swirl (or “butt dimple”).

    • BoatOfVelociraptors
  • Jennifer R
    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      I get a page doesn’t exist page.

      • Jennifer R

        It was a trans woman talking about how nice it is to be able to spend all day watching other trans women be gay at each other on twitter all day for her job.

        • Shanzgood

          /ransom/ I read an article today about Eddie Izzard coming out as transgender AND running for Parliament (I think). But even though the article was on an LGBTQ news site, they referred to him as “he” throughout. So I’m confused.

          • BoatOfVelociraptors

            He’s a transvestite. Totally different thing.

            Error: Knowledge Base out of date.

          • Shanzgood

            I know the difference. He recently came out and self-identified as transgender.

          • BoatOfVelociraptors

            Just saw the news looking for a video.

          • Jennifer R

            80% of queer media is made by cis gay men, which historically has not been a great ally of trans chicks.

          • Shanzgood

            But they quoted him as saying it himself. I’ll see if I can find the article.

          • Jennifer R

            Then maybe Eddie isn’t identifying as binary?

          • Shanzgood

            I wondered that, too, when he referred to himself in the quote as a “transgender guy”.

          • Shanzgood
          • Shanzgood

            They’re not very charitable toward bisexuals or pansexuals, either.

        • What’s her job?

          • Jennifer R

            Some sort of writer or therapist likely?

          • As they say, “Find a job you love and you’ll never have to work again.”

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Lesson plans have been approved by administrator. Back to wingin’ it until I get observed.

    • Meccalopolis

      I keep my burger king placemats handy just in case

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

    Fail Troll Failed.

  • The Wanderer

    The karmic backlash on him will be …. interesting. And possibly funny.

  • Sophia

    Surprise, surprise

    EQUIFAX LOBBIED TO GUT REGULATIONS RIGHT BEFORE GETTING HACKED
    The company was focused on “limiting the legal liability of credit-reporting companies,” among other important issues.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/09/equifax-lobbied-to-gut-regulations-right-before-hack

  • Serai 1
    • Parakeetist

      Go, Mueller, go!

    • Wolf Tracker

      Trump and his kids are a prosecutors wet dream.

    • redarmyzombie

      Not only are the fish in a barrel, but they’re shooting themselves as well!

    • Lord Jim

      War with North Korea in 3…2…1…

  • P’jama Pahnts

    I guess this guy shouldn’t be making all those badly edited videos trying to prove voter fraud and whatnot. That’s this guy, right?

    • Parakeetist

      Maybe James O’Keefe?

    • TJ Barke

      They’re all part of the same failed ideology.

    • bubbuhh

      Milo iz Bratbarf’s token gay whoor. You’re probably thinkin uv weenie dicked O’Keefe.

  • (((Alt-Sedagive)))

    Just heard an interview with Hillary on NPR: she sounded like her usual sane, rational, adult, compassionate self. She talked about her mistakes, and her post-election pain. When she talked about walking in the woods soon after election day, fearing what a Trump presidency would do to the country, I nearly drove off the road screaming.

    It was like living the horror of those first days all over again but with the knowledge that, however bad we all thought it would be, it’s proven to be so much worse.

    Gonna need a mountain of kittens, puppies, pandas, hedgehogs and baby hippos to get through this bullshit.

    • Parakeetist
      • (((Alt-Sedagive)))

        Awww – thank you!

      • Gayer Than Thou

        Fiona Has Six Mommies

      • data_ninja

        Zoo: So, you’re good with taking care of babies, right?
        Hospital: Yep, we’re the experts!
        Zoo: So… just baby humans?
        Hospital: Pretty much, yes. Why?
        Zoo: Yeah, see, we kinda got this hippo and stuff, but it’s a baby! Can ya maybe swing over in a few?
        Hospital: *sigh* I’ll get my stuff together. You’re buying us pizza!
        Zoo: Done and done.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      After the piece, did the journalists talk shit about her? It isn’t a complete Hillary Clinton interview unless a round table of reporters talk shit afterward.

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      I posed them with a “I’m with Purr” sign but had to delete it out of misery after the election.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b8161c816b9859d933d935d9d77bb8227299c8f8268edc1e0f94d809139318d8.jpg

    • freakishlypersistent
      • (((Alt-Sedagive)))

        And baby goats – a lot of baby goats!

    • Doug Langley
  • Treg Brown

    I would give anything to be there when this cunt realizes his 15 minutes are over, and the power to “enrage” anyone who doesn’t share his fucked up life view doesn’t exist.

    2/10

    • mancityRed6

      “someone, pay attention to me”, he screamed.

      • Treg Brown

        That’s exactly how I pictured it :- )

  • Jennifer R
    • TJ Barke

      If you ain’t straight, white, xtian and able bodied, you’re fucked in Randmerica.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Ah, so not only do you have to know what the problem is, you have to specifically articulate what parts of the law it violates and give the property owner an opportunity (note it doesn’t say how long the opportunity is) to remedy. And also forced people into ADR rather than civil courts.
      Just brilliant. Surprised it doesn’t also allow the business owner to sue for filing a complaint.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Look, if people don’t want to travel around in the constant company of an admin law practitioner, they shouldn’t get disabled in the first place.

  • Raan

    News, everyone! Duke Energy has said that power will be fully restored to Pasco and Pinellas (where I live) by midnight Friday.

    In the meantime, I am become Stickyman.

    https://youtu.be/3vDytMvTerQ

    • Raan

      NEVERMIND IT JUST CAME BACK ON

      • Les Appentis De la résistance

        Woo hoo.

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        Fuck yeah! Now go try to rest the clock on your microwave; -)

        • Raan

          That’ll happen moments before I need to microwave something.

  • Jennifer R
  • Milo is so shallow he could drown in a teaspoon.

    Speaking of shallow pools of vomit…

    Bannon’s great-great grandfather Lawrence Bannon arrived in the U.S. from Ireland by the 1850s, at a time when America’s borders were so open that Irishmen could just walk into the country with no passports, no visas, no background checks of any kind.”
    https://i.giphy.com/media/3oKIP8UWgl8wFs3Fo4/200w.gif

    Neckbeard runs in the family

    • Petunia Cat

      Um, you can’t walk into the United States from Ireland. #Ocean

      • mancityRed6

        when I was getting my UK visa, I met a couple of Irish lads at the pub around the corner. they came over with a Canadian visa, but there was apparently more money to be made in NY.

        • Covfefe

          The dark side of Canada is that you cannot afford to live in Canada on Canadian wages.

          • mancityRed6

            tell that to the immigrants making Martin Logan speakers.
            they’re all in the lower west Toronto area
            Mississauga to be exact.

          • Roadstergal

            We have a Mississauga branch of our company that I teleconference with regularly. I like dem Canucks.

          • mancityRed6

            they started shutting down the Lawrence…well, what used to be headquarters.
            they got bought out by an investment firm. who also owned a speaker company in Mississauga.
            Logans used to go for a minimum of $2k, max of $100k or more per pair.
            the people who were let go but got the offer of training their replacements said it was mainly immigrants working there, maybe illegal.
            maybe.
            (all heard second hand from the ex, so take that as you will)

          • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

            Dayum! Those speakers are $1300 each!

            I always wanted a set of electrostatic speakers. I think I’ll make my own.

          • mancityRed6

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/93223bbb9cfa767631b4ca83c0a1ba58b4145f8855227666017778e48589fa55.jpg
            good luck with the 4,000 volts needed to move a membrane that might be NASA protected by now.

          • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

            4000V? No problemo. Membrane? Hmmmm.

          • mancityRed6

            you say that now, but most volt meters don’t go up that high.
            the ex did service and she couldn’t count the times a customer said “oh, I have a voltmeter.”
            only to have it blow out over the phone.

          • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

            Special instruments are definitely required. It’s “don’t try this at home” sort of stuff, for sure.

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            I knew there was a dark side. Fucking knew it.

            (Other than goons with TBIs and substance abuse problems, I mean. That shit’s pretty dark, too.)

      • Covfefe

        To hear my uncles tell it, the Irish can walk on water.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Evidently, you’ve not heard of my brother, Sylveste.

        • LucindathePook

          He had an arm like a leg
          And a punch that would sink a battleship (big ship)

  • Ryan Denniston

    You go listen to President Hillary on Pod Save America right now!

    https://open.spotify.com/show/5JGorGvdwljJHTl6wpMXN3

    • jesterpunk

      Listening to it now, she is right with what she is saying.

    • Sophie McMillan

      I was really impressed with alot of her comments. Most specially about waiting for the debate moderators to ask him to explain shit – and then having to deal with it when nothing fucken happened

  • jesterpunk

    Oh good we have a new Bernie Bro in the Hillary thread that likes to call everyone a Zionist. He seems nice.

    • janecita

      I don’t have patience for trolls.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Fuck Bernie Bro Comment Thread Wars.

      A criminal waste of electrons.

  • Covfefe

    Stolen victimization. Poor Milo. Can’t even make it as a genuine victim.

  • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)
    • Wolf Tracker

      Snarky snarky Jake!

    • Ryan Denniston

      Let me guess, The Bourne Legacy?

  • Petunia Cat

    Pfft, everyone knows Milo doesn’t live in a house. He lives in a rotting log in a creepy forest, behind a skull on a stump. Like the common gremlin he is. 💀

    • redarmyzombie

      The United Gremlin Association demands you rescind and apologize for this vicious slur against Gremlinkind everywhere!

      • Petunia Cat

        😂😂🤣 NEVER! You gremlins need to get your house in order! Stop enabling the horror that is Milo!

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      I thought he lived under a rock.

      • Petunia Cat

        He has multiple dwellings. As part of his efforts to ape the leisure class. #LeisureClassApe

  • MynameisBlarney

    Leaving early tomorrow morning, should be home in less than 26 hours from departure this time.
    I’ll keep y’all posted as I can.

    • CindyinEncinitas

      Please do. I am tired of worrying about your alien ass.

    • redarmyzombie

      Good luck!

    • Lord Jim

      Safe journey. Rest often.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Just be safe.

  • janecita

    All the MRA are going to be really pissed about this. Note how the archeologists, thought that there was no way that the Viking was a woman. Dumb Asses!

    Famous Viking Warrior Was a Woman, DNA Reveals – National Geographic
    https://apple.news/AwIHEGDBUS7qy112rncDuig

    • TJ Barke

      Like I said last night; Shield maidens FTW!

    • mancityRed6
      • TJ Barke

        Fucking Roman pigs!

      • janecita
        • mancityRed6

          I’m guessing you’re playing some kind of favoritism.
          not that that’s bad.
          just saying.

          • janecita

            Something like that;-) She was a badass though!

          • mancityRed6

            yeah, yeah she was.

        • mancityRed6

          it’s kinda scary how the brave women stories get lost

    • Three Finger Salute

      It’ll piss off the MRAs and their mirror version, the jihadists.

      She’s not only a badass female warrior… but her remains were found in the town of Birka.

  • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)
    • Bill D. Burger

      Daddy of a dog-killer and hypocritical enabler of pedophile Josh Duggar….sez’ whuuut’?

    • Thorn Spike

      Corn? When did I have corn?

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Dad Joke rating – 0.25/5

    • ariel_gee_398

      If a monkey at a typewriter could eventually come up with Shakespeare, maybe if Huckabee keeps at it, one day he’ll be funny.

      • mancityRed6

        no. just no.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Buzz Killington wants his joke back.

    • Covfefe

      Let’s vote. Should we let @GovMikeHuckabee alone?

    • Ezio

      Oh well as long as it was just soft pore corn.

    • Count Awesome

      Corn holing is more likely

    • NotALiar

      It sort of seems like he was trying to make fun of Cruz. I can’t tell though

    • Sophia

      Huh? Huckabee translator needed please

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Is this real? I predicted Huckabee would cum out of the woodwork in this issue.

  • msanthropesmr

    Fuck this guy.

  • msanthropesmr

    Talent factory? Talent factory? Fuck nut factory more like.

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Bill D. Burger
      • OutOfOrbit

        just herd a roomer sayin Mueller’s investigation is effectively choking — too much to chew & swallow, cannut deal with/handle it

        • Bill D. Burger

          They certainly have an ‘abundance of riches’ and the tsunami of scandal, fraud, graft, money laundering, collusion…etc. must at times seem overwhelming. I have, however, NO doubt that Bob Mueller will be able to handle it and the result will be very pleasing and very well constructed.

          • Lefty Wright

            I hope that that means they will have so much shit on Trump and pals that they will never be able to defend against them all. And that they start turning on each other.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Sarah, sweetums, honey chile, y’all already done fucked up when Trump tried to intimidate him by suggesting there were tapes. He clowned your asses. Y’all really wanna go down this road with this motherfucker again?

  • Wolf Tracker

    Porn Star In Randy Video ‘Liked’ By Ted Cruz Wishes He Paid For It

    The actress who starred in the porn video liked by Ted Cruz’ Twitter account has harsh words for the Texas Senator.

    “I didn’t like that he watched it for free,” Cory Chase told HuffPost. “He pirated that video. He should have paid Reality Kings for a subscription.”

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/porn-star-randy-video-apos-163659528.html

    File Federal Copyright violations and Fed pirating charges against his ass. Make him bring the staffer to court (there probably isn’t one) and explain why they are violating copyright.

    • redarmyzombie

      Staffer…why not blame the dog while he’s at it?

      • Count Awesome

        The dog probably has way better taste in porn.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Hmmm.. How does she know he watched it for free? And, how much does that say about who watched it?

      • Bobathonic

        Far more likely that it was the cat.

  • Ezio

    The justification for the existence of Ted Cruz is invalidated by the fact that we should ever be living in a world so horrible that the existence of Ted Cruz is justifiable.

  • Jennifer R
    • mancityRed6

      this town’s not stinky enough for the two of us.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        I find there are one or two advantages to not having a sense of smell.

        (Unless I take a shitload of prednesone, but that’s another story.)

        • mancityRed6

          at least I’m not the only one to be dragged into a candle shop
          “doesn’t this smell nice?”
          “uh, yeah”

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        Who you callin’ a skunk? You lookin’ at me, punk?….

  • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)
  • altleftjohn
    • Wolf Tracker

      I had a non serious but painful accident as a kid with a plastic fan and learned my lesson about sticking my junk into anything mechanical.

    • Rick Hill

      Oh, so lol

    • Serai 1
    • Serai 1

      I have a VHS copy (that I had converted to DVD) of a “for the ladies” kinda film about a nice thirty-ish writer who decides to go off to the woods for a sabbatical, and gets talked by a friend into taking a “companion” (i.e. boytoy robot) with her. It’s totally programmable from obvious robot to basically indistinguishable from a human (though a rather neurotic one). It’s all lots of fun until she turns the knob too high and the robot doesn’t want to be a robot anymore. Things get… complicated. Oh, and Bruce Greenwood plays the Love Machine. (YES. REALLY.)

      • Three Finger Salute

        You haven’t lived until you’ve seen the dual-role coin-operated boy movie that stars John Malkovich. Making Mr. Right, 1987.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOHNuFAVI7I

        • Serai 1

          Oy. I’m afraid I do not find Malkovich attractive in the least. I mean, really not attractive. So much so that I couldn’t take Dangerous LIaisons seriously. I do remember hearing the title of this one, though.

  • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶
    • Count Awesome

      What kind of picnic are we having?

      • altleftjohn

        Le Déjeuner sur l’herbe?

    • TJ Barke

      Especially for cunning linguists.

  • msanthropesmr

    Is anything not terrible?

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      The cigar I am smoking right now is not terrible. It’s quite yummy, in a cigar sort of way.

      • Wolf Tracker

        Have you tried the ecigars yet?

        • Rick Hill

          Email me one

          • Wolf Tracker

            Mine are USB and don’t have extra’s but if V2.com runs a special I will let you know. Starter kits are like $19.

    • Rick Hill

      My left pinky toe is doing very well

    • Wolf Tracker

      Dinner was good. That’s about it.

    • Serai 1

      The lemon tree in my yard is far from terrible.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Toomush spent the day working with his son on the addition flooring joists. As long as I move slow and take my time, I can still do this!….

    • WomanInThePersistence

      My dog is still very nice and cute. And does care about politics.

  • Amelia Resists and Persists

    Man, it’s been so long since this prick was relevant I had forgotten he was even a thing. He just wanted to feel properly hated again to feed the black hole of dickishness living in his chest cavity.

    I think I’ll save my hate for things that still matter.

  • Me not sure
    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Parked over a sewer grate.

    • Wolf Tracker

      The hobo’s would steel his fancy shoes in a heartbeat.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      Nice house. Right beside a dog-pissing station. Location, location, location!

  • Bill D. Burger

    Same-Sex Marriage Pioneer Edith Windsor Dies at 88

    Edith Windsor, the gay-rights pioneer whose case at the U.S. Supreme Court paved the way for the legalization of same-sex marriage nationwide, has died at age 88.

    Rest in Power! Well done, well lived madam. You are a true hero.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/067b28a5ae1edbbe01e095535d8cb187cee0cf923cbc164c31df2a730db52157.jpg

    • Serai 1

      She persisted.

  • CindyinEncinitas
  • Finnibar87

    These wingers cannot ABIDE anyone who doesn’t agree with their complete and utter bullshit.

  • Serai 1

    Watching the new weed comedy, Disjointed. Looks cute! I worship at the feet of Kathy Bates, so this thing is ten points ahead already. *sssssssssssssssssssssst*

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5dee6e508a60d44739a7fe746d8d2214bf24c8765d4b0579e787f962b2909e10.gif

    • Finnibar87

      Who runs it?

      • Swampgas_Man

        Chuck Lorre.

        • TJ Barke

          Blech… no thanks.

      • Serai 1

        It looks like a Lorre show, indeed.

    • mancityRed6

      I’m not saying no,
      https://nzfilmfreak.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/misery-1.jpg
      I’m just saying, let’s see where she goes with it.

    • Courser_Resistance

      What channel is it on?

      • Serai 1

        It’s a Netflix show.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    Supreme Court, without comment, blocks Appeals Court ruling striking down Trump’s travel ban as applied to refugees who had a contractual commitment for resettlement pending a hearing on the full legality of the ban on October 10.

    • Lord Jim

      Way ta go, Hillary haters.

      • Lefty Wright

        Yeah, we will be paying for this for the next 30 years. There are still over 100 vacancies in various federal district and appeals courts, and it is very likely another Supreme Court justice or two will retire or die before 2021. When mentioning this during the campaign, all I heard from Bernie Bros was “I will not vote out of fear”. I wonder if the ones in Florida left their houses a few days ago or decided they would not submit to fear and stayed put. Yet a right wing federal court system will eventually do more damage to the country than a hurricane.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Good thing the appeal related to DACA (which everyone knows is unconstitutional) was dismissed. The hair-splitting over Presidential authority over immigration could have gotten very complicated.

    • Wolf Tracker

      That was expected. They finished up business until next session. The ban will be allowed to expire and Reps in SCOTUS let Trump save face because they would have to rule it unconstitutional.

  • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)
  • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)
  • Bill D. Burger

    STAFFER: Hope Hicks has been subpoenaed by Mueller!

    TRUMP: Fuck it! OK, throw some more money at her. Everyone lies for money.

    BTW: “Hope Hicks” sounds like a good description of the WH minions and their leader. Bunch of hicks: “Hope I don’t get subpoenaed” _ “Hope I don’t go to jail.” …..

  • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)
    • Wolf Tracker

      Wow! did not see that coming. What is the catch and what did they tie it to?

      • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)

        A day after the Senate easily passed legislation condemning last month’s violent white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, the House passed it on a voice vote Tuesday evening.

        The House version was introduced last week by Rep. Tom Garrett (R-Va.), a conservative freshman who represents Charlottesville, and it has the backing of Virginia’s entire delegation of seven Republicans and four Democrats.

        Now that the House has cleared the Senate measure, it will land on Trump’s desk to sign or veto.

        • Wolf Tracker

          very cool!

    • data_ninja

      Is this an attempt to legitimize Trump, but with all words and no actions? He can sign something like this, but the next time an incident like Charlottesville happens (and it will unfortunately), will we just go back to square one?

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      While continuing to gin up xenophobia, vote for systematic disenfranchisement of minority voters, and be coy about the fucking border wall. Great, congress…you wore an “I’m not a racist” button for day. Get your cookie and shut the fuck up.

    • Sophia

      Doesn’t mean much. It’s like forcing a toddler to say I’m sorry when they’re not.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Ima’ drop this for any damned pundit, GOP and/or Con fucker who keeps opining that Hillary Clinton “…should just go away.”

    https://twitter.com/SabrinaSiddiqui/status/907297308513116162

    • ariel_gee_398

      47% of Mitt’s binders full of women ride the car elevator for a view of the trees in Michigan that are just the right height. I predict this will go well.

    • Count Awesome

      Has he been upgraded with a new, more appealing algorithm?

      • Chyron HR

        His horse is whiter than ever.

      • Meccalopolis

        His trees are still the right height

    • gene108

      Mitt Romney is a white man. Not some icky woman. He can do whatever he wants.

    • Wolf Tracker

      A UtahPolicy.com poll shows Romney would be in great shape to win a Senate race against Democrat Jenny Wilson. Romney pulls 64% of the vote to Wilson’s 26%. The poll shows Stewart would only be ahead of Wilson 34-30, but that’s likely due to Stewart being less familiar to Utah voters.

      • mancityRed6

        duh, he’s Mormon.
        no way that carpetbagger wouldn’t win in that state.
        (did you notice he’s not gonna try it in Mass, again? or any other state?)

        • Wolf Tracker

          He would be better than Hatch.

          My guess he gets in the senate to position for a presidential run. Wants to build some cred.

          • mancityRed6

            Hatch once said that marijuana use leads to bad things, like getting involved in politics.
            there’s not much worse than Hatch.

          • mancityRed6

            oh, and I really don’t think he’s gonna try that again. there’s no money in it
            wait

          • Wolf Tracker

            He sees it as a religious calling. It is a Mormon thing and ego thing.

            He doesn’t care about the money and is well off. Not like Trump but well off.

          • mancityRed6

            I honestly don’t think he’ll do a run again. not after Seamus made the news.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Yeah. She should go away. Like McCain did.

    • Steve Cole

      Someone from UT help me out. Didn’t Chafetz recently waddle off into the sunset? Romney can run for that seat?

  • UnsaltedSinner
  • Amelia Resists and Persists

    Actual Trash Human and Worst Attorney General Jeff Sessions has decided that those Baltimore cops what murdered Freddie Gray were gosh-golly nice folks and they just couldn’t have committed any criminal civil rights violations, heavens no!

    In other news, I still hate Jeff Sessions more than any other member of the Trump administration by a very wide margin.

    • ariel_gee_398

      He’s just applying the long-standing legal principle of “black folks don’t have civil rights so how could they even be violated, dummies?” Totally consistent with precedent.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        His precedent…

      • Three Finger Salute

        “Them whuppin’ boys is just monkeys, I tell ya. Y’all know better that a monkey can’t have human rights. God intended it so.”

        -Covfefferson No-Regard Sessions, 1860.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Since when does having someone in your custody mean you’re responsible for their protection?

    • gene108

      For me it is a toss up between Sessions and Pruitt. Both are taking a wrecking ball to America.

    • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)

      Jefferson Beauregard thinks that n**ger kid got what he deserved and was proud of the police for giving him a rough ride. Law and order and all.

    • OutOfOrbit

      i been told to, “be patient, they’re all going down.”
      i have my doubts, since obama let all the bush-co crimers slide into the past untouched by justice

      • Three Finger Salute

        Obama had to because reasons. Besides, everybody knows IOKIYAR and when the president (or any of his racist cabinet members) does something, that means it’s not illegal.

        There isn’t going to be a U.S. version of the Nuremberg Trials no matter how much we want there to be.

        • ahughes798

          Because of “pragmatic” Democrats.

    • TJ Barke

      He and Pruitt are tied for me.

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        Them and Betsy Dumbass — dismantling protection for special needs kids, blaming rape victims and profiting of student loans.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Bill D. Burger
  • Bill D. Burger
  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    It would just be too sad, dedicating your life to make Milos life a living hell….I guess he’ll have to do that himself…

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      “And WARM!”

  • Bill D. Burger
    • mancityRed6

      shit. well, I was planning on nachos.
      thanks.
      now I’m looking at an empty whiskey bottle

      • persistently_resistant_gayby

        *stumbles after hitting a wine bottle* HIC!

        • mancityRed6

          jeebus, put them against the wall so you don’t trip over them.

          • persistently_resistant_gayby

            *sways* YOU DONT TELL ME WHAT TO- *thud*

  • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)
  • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶
    • Serai 1

      Oh man, I was there for that! Poor John. He’s such a sweetheart, and it really upset him. He posted a video the next day going into his disappointment. Man, they’re such goddamn idiots. That’s what happens when you spurn an education – stupid fucking pratfalls like that.

    • mancityRed6

      I’m not a big fan of custard, I won’t ask for it, but I won’t turn it down, either.
      but good lord.

    • jesterpunk

      Yet they call liberals snowflakes when they are offended by every little thing.

  • m3bosha

    Since this is the open thread, I just have to complain about my liberal hubbs and my even more liberal 16 year old arguing about whose fault it is Hillz lost the election (ok, really more as to why Trump won). They keep repeating the same thing over and over… and louder. I may have to banish them.

    • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

      Its my fault. An ex told me so.

  • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

    holy homies! Back from internship…how was bernie bro Tuesday?

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Hola. Your espanol* is worse than I thought.

      (* – And my english.)

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        doh – Typo!

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          Me too.

    • persistently_resistant_gayby

      Haz a look at one of the threads. FLying monkeys all over

    • Jennifer R

      How is the internship?

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        pretty cool!
        Everybody seems pretty awesome and they give me some interesting and (relatively) important tasks right away! It’s kinda night and day compared to the ill fated law job.

        Definitely not stapling and filing…it seems like they recognize I’ve got an education and can do substantive stuff for them.

        Thanks for asking. ; )

        • Courser_Resistance

          Yay! I’m so glad for you! I got my first unemployment check and paid my cell and cable bills. I consider that a win!

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            it is…waiting on my student loan disbursement (it got fucked up cause I didn’t correct the direct deposit wiht my new account info).

            The TX mom was not terribly pleased to hear this is an unpaid internship, so, yeah…any day now Financial Aid Office.

            (And thanks!)

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Bernie is not the Messiah thread is bonkers.

      • jesterpunk

        That one idiot might learn something from you though.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Crafting skills are useful!

          • persistently_resistant_gayby

            Yeah, and if that doesn’t work – he can sit on those massive needles.

            REPEATEDLY.

            With votes, also too.

          • shivaskeeper

            I always wanted to learn how to knit. But the Sasquatch fingers get in the way.

          • Courser_Resistance

            I thought I’d crochet when I got older. I did a lot of it before I got my hip replacements. And now, I’ve bashed up my hands so much over the years that they constantly cramp up if I try to do any ‘fine’ work. Sucks, I tell you. I basically gave up on rope work.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        I haven’t looked. Should I?

        • Lord Jim

          Nope.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Depends on how much you are interested in watching the Bros in the wild. What gets me is the total lack of nuance. And the complete lack of understanding how many people here supported Bernie.

          So really, it depends on your mood.

    • Doug Langley

      Space Tacos!! There you are! You tell us all about the new job RIGHT NOW!!!

      • Doug Langley

        Sorry, it was just too much trouble to scroll down a few inches.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        there’s enough to tell!
        I kinda shined a bit when one division chief off-handly (?) mentioned a problem – and I remembered it was much like a problem one of my profs had.

        My division chief left work with some stuff my prof sent us to help. So that was good on me!

        • Doug Langley

          Yay!!

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i casually mentioned you today to a co-worker, as we were talking about how cool the people in my office are and how tough things are for you.

            How was today on your end of the internet tubes?

          • Doug Langley

            I left a non-comment about 500 posts below. Reader’s Digest version: boss didn’t say much today other than “Okay, good idea.” So tolerable.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            lol you gotta celebrate the good stuff, no matter how minor!

    • jesterpunk

      The trolls are boring now. Hope your internship goes well.

    • Panika MCD

      loads of stupid. Calliope Jane got an owie on her butt that I can’t identify. Hurricane Jazzy chewed up the new harness one of her guardian angels got her. talked to an HD47 candidate about working for her. bring back smarts.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i thought about you a bit today (not like that!) cause one of my tasks involved researching some law handed down on high from the lege…I kept thinking, I can wow Panika with this, and it’s FAR more boring than what she usually handles.

        • Panika MCD

          I handle the budget!

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            this is nearly as tedious.

          • Panika MCD

            nothing is as tedious as listening to Bettencourt and it may be something I found fascinating!

          • Doug Langley

            My heart simply breaks. I know! We can swap jobs. I’m sure you’ll find filing far more stimulating.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            nah, it’s not too bad at all – just would be to most people.

            What was tedious was going through a fucking truckload of discovery documents at the ill fated law job. That shit sucked.

    • shivaskeeper

      Same as it ever is when Hillary is mentioned in a headline.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea

    https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2017/9/12/16296532/hillary-clinton-universal-basic-income-alaska-for-america-peter-barnes
    Hillary tried to make universal basic income work :

    Before I ran for President, I read a book called With Liberty and Dividends for All: How to Save Our Middle Class When Jobs Don’t Pay Enough, by Peter Barnes, which explored the idea of creating a new fund that would use revenue from shared national resources to pay a dividend to every citizen, much like how the Alaska Permanent Fund distributes the state’s oil royalties every year. Shared national resources include oil and gas extracted from public lands and the public airwaves used by broadcasters and mobile phone companies, but that gets you only so far. If you view the nation’s financial system as a shared resource, then you can start raising real money from things like a financial transactions tax. Same with the air we breathe and carbon pricing.

    Once you capitalize the fund, you can provide every American with a modest basic income every year [emphasis Vox’s]. Besides cash in people’s pockets, it would also be a way of making every American feel more connected to our country and to one another—part of something bigger than ourselves. I was fascinated by this idea, as was my husband, and we spent weeks working with our policy team to see if it could be viable enough to include in my campaign. We would call it “Alaska for America.” Unfortunately, we couldn’t make the numbers work. To provide a meaningful dividend each year to every citizen, you’d have to raise enormous sums of money, and that would either mean a lot of new taxes or cannibalizing other important programs. We decided it was exciting but not realistic, and left it on the shelf. That was the responsible decision. I wonder now whether we should have thrown caution to the wind and embraced “Alaska for America” as a long-term goal and figured out the details later.

    • TJ Barke

      As automation decimates labor, it will likely become unavoidable.

      • Serai 1

        I know a couple of the tech dudes are floating this idea. They’re well aware they’re killing jobs, and some of them would like to do something about that.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Some of them.

          The rest would rather the useless poors die and become Soylent sriracha.

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            I wonder whether sriracha would enhance Soylent Green?

          • SisterArtemis

            It’s good in everything except pie and ice cream, so should be ok

      • Three Finger Salute

        In a civilized country, perhaps it could work. Not MURRRRICA where it = “welfare”.

        One of the things at the root of the worries or anxieties that so many people have is that they see their jobs being replaced by automation. By AI. By robots. By various innovations and improvements in the technology that surrounds our workplaces. Instead of saying, “OK, well, how do we slow down the pace of automation and protect—through various barriers—our workforce?,” what we’ve chosen to do, and it was at the center of the most recent budget we’ve put forward a month ago, was how do we prepare citizens, our workers, to be part of the revolution in how our workplace functions? How are we encouraging K-to-12 students to learn how to code? How are we encouraging access to university, to career colleges, to technical and vocational schools for our students?

        But also, how do we take people who are in the workforce already, who are looking at their industry saying, “Wow, I need to change my industry or I need to get significantly more skills if I’m gonna continue to have a job 10 years from now,” and get them back into school? We put an awful lot of money that is focused on retraining and upskilling workers.

        Every time there was a big transformation, whether it was the Industrial Revolution and the steam engine, there was this worry that there were going to be no more jobs. … But I think at the same time, looking at a delay that might have happened 100 years ago or 200 years ago is different from understanding that the pace of change is so rapid that if we start, and we tool up our workforce to be more flexible, more open, more skilled in seeing where the opportunities are, we’re going to be better positioned than anyone else in the world. I’m not saying there’s not going to be disruption. [But] we’re doing well because we are back investing in the kinds of things that are making a difference in people’s lives.

        Justin Trudeau, Bloomberg Businessweek, May 2017

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6l8MFdTaPE

      • Doug Langley

        Oh, they don’t need automation to kill jobs. I’ve lost a lot of jobs in my time, and not a single one was due to a robot.

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          True dat.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      As it turns out, the key to winning was saying “I hate black and brown people” and lying about coal jobs.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        The Left wouldn’t believe she’d follow through anyway. But it’s interesting that the idea got that far and she was ready to go for it.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          They believed Bernie’s “free shit for everyone”.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            That was from Bernie though

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Oh, right. The one who’s never lied.

    • persistently_resistant_gayby

      But she has a vagina.

      As you all know, policy doesn’t come well from vagina-havers. I read that scientific proof in Breitfart.

    • OutOfOrbit

      attrition thru starvation annd cannon fodder in unneeded wars [for the unemployable masses]

    • Panika MCD

      I love Hillz, but the reason “dividend” is part of the PFD is because the check is a dividend from investing a small portion of the permanent fund. it’s not supposed to come out of the primary (though don’t try telling that to Sarah Palin).

    • Courser_Resistance

      Scandinavian countries are looking hard at it, too. Of course, as a society, they already provide a great deal to their citizens; Healthcare, child care, extensive paid parental leave for both parents, etc. So it’s not quite such a stretch

  • Sophia

    Hahaha! Found this on my faceplace. Pay attention you southern wonkers.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6efc1b56e9fcba452d054b4618f19d8a6c68a90ad26d7003f2f0a3c912a339df.jpg

    • Panika MCD

      their http://www.texaswearscondoms.com order has been shipped.

      • Sophia

        Yea but because of current conditions & high volume of orders 6-8 weeks for delivery!

        • Panika MCD

          that’s why we bought drones!

    • OutOfOrbit

      LUV THAT 1! ( :

  • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

    So my notes from the journal articles assigned are filled with the academic term “bullshit” and “ja right!”. It will be a spirited semester!

    • rosenbomb

      what’s your field?

      • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

        Workforce development.

        • rosenbomb

          spirited, indeed!

          I just started grad school for social work, so my brain has been adjusting back to academia.

          • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

            I’ve been in it almost all my life. The biggest struggle is going front biological research to social sciences. I am not interested in opinions! Give me the hard data!

          • rosenbomb

            Heh. My research prof is very much that way– all about quant studies over qual. But I think he is in the minority in our SW department

  • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶
    • biologydave

      Except maybe your heart

    • Ryan Denniston

      You just let them live in the oven an extra 5 minutes…

      • mancityRed6

        put them in for the minimum time and then just turn the oven off.
        for about 10 minutes.

        • mancityRed6

          I don’t want this to come back on me, so, I’ll just say I like my pizza and my oven fries crispy.

    • spangled

      god himself can and should stop you from doing this.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Common sense and self-preservation should.

      • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶

        I’ve heard of those things. No truck with them round these parts.

        • Sophia

          What no tater tot casserole at the family gatherings?

    • mancityRed6

      deep, deep fried? ok.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      now I want a tater tot salad.

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      You can also use peas in your guacamole. You can even serve that shit in your !JEB!® Official Guaca-Bowle™

      LET FREEDOM RING

      • spangled

        NO.
        I’m performing a citizen’s arrest on you if you continue spreading this dangerous idea.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        oh god – bernie v. hillary and peas in guacamole all in one day…I can’t take it!

    • Alternative Dog

      You can also add canned clams for flavor.

      • persistently_resistant_gayby

        YOU MONSTER – NEXT YOU’LL SAY IT CAME OUT OF A VEGAN BUTTHOLE

    • Serai 1

      This sounds like an excellent idea.

    • Courser_Resistance

      If that’s what floats your boat, go for it. I’ll take a pass, thanks.

  • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

    ““I will spend every waking moment of the rest of my life making the lives of journalists, professors, politicians, feminists, Black Lives Matter activists and other professional victims a living hell.”

    What a dick.

    • persistently_resistant_gayby

      Jesus Christ – just reminds you that some LGBTQIA folk are the fucking worst.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        there’s only two types of people in the world; dicks and cool people.

        Sometimes somebody is stuck in one category for their whole lives, most of us move back and forth between them.

        ; )

      • SisterArtemis

        Because we come from absolutely every stripe of humanity. A blessing, and a curse.

    • mancityRed6

      anything I could reply to that would be against the rules.

      • persistently_resistant_gayby
        • mancityRed6

          my neighbors will stop complaining about me, thanks.

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          That is great!

        • The Librarian

          I did…..twice. :D

  • Jesse

    Edith Windsor died today.😔

    • mancityRed6

      I’m not gonna say Rosa Parks, but in her own way, she was.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Downthread, someone posted Obama’s press release. It was very nice.

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Admittedly I’m a bit out of touch with popular culture, but when did psychopathy become socially admirable?

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    Kris Kobach is a liar.

    Did not see that coming. /s

    https://thinkprogress.org/kobach-fact-check-panel-85e385ea9838/

  • Michael R
  • Three Finger Salute
    • persistently_resistant_gayby

      In today’s episode of “Disappointed, but not surprised”

    • Sophia

      God they’re just crawling out of the woodwork anymore.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      He sounds Minnesota nice.

    • jesterpunk

      With Trump they dont even need dog whistles anymore and can finally say what they are thinking.

      • Wookie Monster

        They’re now using foghorns.

        • Three Finger Salute

          I say I say I resemble that thar remark!

    • kaydenpat

      And he gets to keep his job, right? No consequences, right?

  • Jennifer R
    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Yeah, Scott Peterson is asking for a retrial.

  • Wookie Monster

    Poor Milo. Hasn’t anyone told him that his fifteen minutes are up?

    • persistently_resistant_gayby

      I’m surprised if he lasted less than 2 mins.

    • Panika MCD

      because no one wants to talk to him.

    • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

      It takes longer than that for a used Depends to decompose.

  • Picabo
  • Wolf Tracker

    Physics Explains Why It’s Especially Dangerous to Fire Guns at a Hurricane

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/physics-explains-why-apos-especially-161600470.html

    Seriously- Rep gun owners and climate deniers do not accept science so you expect them to accept physics?

    Oh and that it is for me and now watching Hunt for Red October. Good night all and pleasant dreams.

    • persistently_resistant_gayby

      Take their guns and headbutt them with it.

      That’s a much more quicker way doing it.

    • Beanz&Berryz
    • Three Finger Salute

      “Physics explains”

      Fake news. Needz moar Jesus.

    • OutOfOrbit

      me liked how the flick ended much better than the book

  • TootsStansbury

    My cup of misanthropy is starting to fill. I don’t want to turn into that person but there are so many examples of hateful fucker in the world.

    • It’s a big cup, trust me on this.

    • OutOfOrbit

      my cup got full on bushco & now i am a trog

    • mancityRed6

      whiskey helps me pour my cup out.
      not a good thing, but it works for me.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Don’t be that guy

      http://e.lvme.me/743pv7l.jpg

      That’s Bannon without makeup.

    • gene108

      Babies laughing cheers me up

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RP4abiHdQpc

      • Serai 1

        One day, a year from now, he walks into his office and finds the baby sitting amid a pile of torn up documents. And then they all end up snowbound in a Colorado hotel, with the screaming and the blood and the fucking hedges.

  • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶
    • mancityRed6

      Rinse, Chaffets, they both look the same.

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        It’s that greezy pinched ferret face. Which is really pretty libelous to ferrets, TBH.

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      Javert, ftw.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        That was pretty great.

    • persistently_resistant_gayby

      Wannabe Javert.

      Oh, she’s good.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        I just learned a literary reference there…

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      “That was some weird shit” might be W’s greatest contribution to humanity.

    • spangled

      chaffetz is going to apoplectic in his diary about this tonight.
      “i’ve devoted my whole life to her…and she doesn’t even know who I am???”

    • jesterpunk

      It would have been great if she did that. But she is too classy for that.

    • SisterArtemis

      I chuckled (out loud, even) when I read that comment of George’s. And I bet he will too, when he reads it.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      whelp, there go his credentials for the VSP villager club

    • Serai 1

      Oh gods, she SO should have tweeted that. I think Hillz holds back too often. Maybe now she’ll be more daring!

    • proudgrampa

      “…wannabe Javert…”

      WOW. ZING!!!

    • CeeQ

      No fucks left to give Hillary is my favorite.
      “Wannabe Javert” – fucking brilliant and loved how she casually tossed that in.

  • mancityRed6
    • Doug Langley

      And you call me dark?

      • mancityRed6

        yeah, but, I like you.

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          One of us! One of us!

          • mancityRed6

            for over a year now.
            not the worst anniversary.

    • Royal Ugly Globalist Dude

      And your little dog’s heart too

      • mancityRed6

        over. my. dead. body.

  • William
    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      And take Bannon with you.

      • mancityRed6

        are we gonna make a list?
        ’cause I don’t know if I have enough paper.

    • Ryan Denniston

      Trump Tower has a safe space you can sleep off the night.

  • Left Coast Tom

    Today’s Nice Time picture…nine years ago, in Canada’s (Ontario) Quetico Provincal Park, sunset on an island in Basswood Lake (which forms the international border). One can canoe between the US (Boundary Waters – Minnesota) and Canadian sides if one is either a US or Canadian citizen. For Canada one is supposed to get a $30 CDN “Remote Area Border Crossing permit, for the US one is supposed to get their passport stamped in Ely, MN. A stamp my now-expired passport has.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f58ba15ad21e28eec25ff9aa3d1377e605381a278eb8cf45e6b513baba3ab5b0.jpg

  • William
  • Serai 1
    • snigsy

      Poodle and sukiyaki . . .yum.

    • Three Finger Salute

      With or without a Taste of Honey?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqFkUNqBwMw

      Fun fact: This song is actually called “I Look Up When I Walk” (“Ue o Muite Arukō”), originally performed by Kyu Sakamoto. #1 Record of the Year in Japan for 1961, and a #1 hit Stateside in 1963.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETX_EJgOVw8

      • Serai 1

        I remember that tune! I knew it as a kid from a Disney record album called It’s a Small World, that had the ride’s song and a bunch of international songs. This was one of them, as was The Ash Grove, and interestingly enough, the national anthem of the USSR – which was hummed, not sung, by the choir.

  • AJ Milne

    My reflection on hearing Ms. Clinton commenting earlier today on her own failures during the campaign, and the inevitable back and forth between parties broadly on the US political left as to who was at fault for what is, absolutely, an extremely dangerous and unfortunate situation:

    I have some suspicion, for what it’s worth, that the US 2016 federal election will go down in history books as a sea change, and, specifically, the moment when weaponized misinformation distributed via digital networks entered a new and very dangerous, very potent phase, and became immensely destabilizing precisely because there simply _weren’t_, as yet, good defenses developed. There had been rumblings before, suggestions of what was possible, similar incursions, in the Brexit campaign, in elections across Europe, but the US case was a standout in its clarity.

    That people at ground level are blaming themselves and others, I think, in retrospect, will be regarded as unsurprising, but less interesting than that essential fact. If _anyone_ is likely to bear some lasting blame, it might be those in security establishments who failed fully to appreciate it, to warn policy makers, at least. For all the good this was likely to do, in the larger context. That larger context being: what you actually _do_ about it is far, as yet, from clear.

    Hillary made mistakes. Everyone made mistakes. But the real story, I think, is: there’s a new weapon in the world, building on top of already dangerous chaos left in the wake of constant, rapid innovation in telecomm technology that changes the human social world far more rapidly than it can constructively adapt. And that the confusion it breeds is proving deadly to civilizations.

    (… oh. And: No, this is _not_ purely saying ‘the Russians did it’. They were only a part of a much larger story.)

    • WomanInThePersistence

      This is a very thoughtful post. Psssst…the federal election was in 2016. I thought you might want to know.

      • AJ Milne

        Heh. thanks. Caught that a few seconds ago… But, appropriately enough, network issues hung up the fix.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Saving this because it’s an incredible post and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

    • Serai 1

      When you trace it back, I think the original blame lies in the people who designed and built the internet, and their insistence on lack of security, anonymity, and horrifyingly naive openness. At every step there were people saying better security was needed, but no. “Information wants to be free!” And here we are. It’s infinitely harder to patch a monster like this than it would have been to design a secure system from the beginning, but oh, well. It was our choice.

      • AJ Milne

        Could do longer essays on history and technical sides of this… Full disclosure, I work in secure networking, have done some aeons…

        Beyond that, tho’, I had the germ of an idea the other day, also for what it’s worth, that what would help would be to create an expectation that the provenance of content should be as immediately available as the content itself. In a saner world, you should be able, as easily as clicking on a link, to find out it came to you through a bot farm in Vladivostok, and was written by a dark money outfit in Hoboken. Failing this, you should at least have developed the expectation that if you _can’t_ get that provenance, you might as well assume that’s what it was.

        • Serai 1

          That’s exactly the kind of thing that should have been there from the beginning.

    • Technology has advanced far faster than our ability to evolve with it.

      Also, history has shown us that the human psyche is a simple thing to “hack” using propaganda, compliments, criticisms, or other means.

      Excellent post.

    • CripesAmighty

      Well put. But the most insidious problem is a population so stupid and unable to distinguish fact from bullshit at the most elementary level, and thus ripe for the picking.

  • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

    Is anyone else watching this hurricane telethon?

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      Is Jerry Lewis hosting again this year?

      Too soon?

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        Naw, I hated Jerry Lewis.

        • Serai 1

          He was surprisingly good in The King of Comedy. Very intimidating. He held his own impressively against Deniro, making him look even more pathetic than he already was.

      • CripesAmighty

        Helluva ventriloquist act.

    • SayItWithWookies

      I just turned on the tube and that squegee-voiced South African fellow was on every goddamn channel. I thought I had died and gotten what’s coming to me.

  • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

    so, open thread question!
    Both this gig and the last one said no tie is needed (unless I’m going to court).

    Should I wear one everyday to impress? Or take them at their word?
    Cause I really hate ties.

    THanks!

    • Shanzgood

      Start with a tie. If nobody else wears one, or comments, stop. But keep one or two at work, just in case?

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        that’s a good idea…cause, yeah, court.
        I wore one today.

      • persistently_resistant_gayby

        Yep – that works.

        On my first day to work – no one mentioned a proper dress code, so I just turned up with a suit and tie.

        Needless to say, my HR rep was super pleased! We’ve got a good rapport building already.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          glad to hear it! How goes the new gig?

          • persistently_resistant_gayby

            I spoke to a schizophrenic person yesterday.

            After that call, I just told my supervisor I needed a break for 10 – she could hear the call all the way from her pod, so she understood.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            wow…those are the tough ones.

            Hang in there!

          • persistently_resistant_gayby

            Not as tough as the person I was speaking to – she’s in some serious shit. One of the worst cases I’ve heard yet.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            if I can pass on whta I learned from my prof, who basically does SVU type cases…you gotta focus on the facts and your job. If you let it inside your head, well, you know already.

            A little distance, emotionally speaking, might be a good thing.

            I don’t want to advise you wrong, so I’d say bring it up with a veteran employee at lunch or on a break, ask how they deal with it.

            Also, in teh Red Cross they told us, “If you don’t take care of yourself, you can’t take care of other people.”

            Self care is key here.

          • persistently_resistant_gayby

            Oh yeah – the thing is WE COULD HELP HER. But her schizophrenia put her in complete danger, so we had to transfer to the bank’s hardship team, and then immediately call the police because she threatened self-harm.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            damn. that’s terrible.

            I’m sorry that happened.

          • persistently_resistant_gayby

            Ah well – luckily, after the break, my supervisor came over to ask how I was doing, and offered tips on how to handle it.

            So, we good :)

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            glad ot hear it.

            ; )

        • William

          I spent twenty years in the service. My first day as a civilian I stood in front of my closet wondering what to wear. Hard to explain but unnerving just the same.

          • persistently_resistant_gayby

            That is true – I was feverishly fretting if my tie went well with the suit or is my suit too loud..

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            lol, do you still get up at oh-dark-thirty?

            Dad got up everyday at 4:30 or 5:00 am, even when he was on the night shift.

      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        With clips.

    • Left Coast Tom

      What is the local culture around where you are? Go by that.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        one of my many bosses, is, uh…yeah, they’re lawyers, so styles vary.

        • CindyinEncinitas

          The managing partner in my old office took a depo in shorts, a t-shirt and flip flops once. I couldn’t believe it.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            I love it!
            That’s me if i ever run a law firm.
            ; )

      • Shanzgood

        It’s Texas…

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          hey!
          I did not see a single bolo tie all day.

          • Shanzgood

            Bolo ties are AWESOME!

            Prolly not in court, though.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            but, it’s Texas.

            ; )

            Ask Panika, we get lawyers and especially politicians who do boots and suits. May be on the wane though, it’s more of an ole school thing.

          • Shanzgood

            We get that in Kansas still, too.

    • Count Awesome

      Go with neckerchief.

      • CindyinEncinitas

        Thurston Howell III?

        • Count Awesome

          Hank Venture!

    • ariel_gee_398

      What did you notice about the office? If no one else is wearing them, don’t be that guy.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        I don’t think the number 2 person was wearing one today – but the office is so big, I figure at least somebody has a court appearance every day.

        • ariel_gee_398

          If they said it, they probably meant it. I doubt it was a trap. There are ways to still look professional and put together without a tie, that’s what you should aim for.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            yeah, I’m focusing on laundered and ironed for the moment.
            ; )

    • bbayliss

      Ascott.

      • Pancakes please!

        The Charles Nelson Reilly look is always a winner.

      • William

        Great idea. cigarette holder and a monocle.

    • William

      Be careful what you wear to court. I have a tie with little pink pigs on it. I thought as a cop it was funny. A district court judge asked me where I got it. I told him the name of the store and that they also had one with little sharks on it for lawyers. I was quickly and unceremoniously given a reminder of the incredible power a judge can wield IE contempt, by my chief as I stood at attention outside the courtroom. I have to say that was the most impressive ass-chewing I’d had since boot camp.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        wow, roger wilco on that.

        Luckily my wardrobe (and wallet) are so small, I went with about 5-10 fairly conservative ties that could be used with a lot of different shirts.

        My shirts are a bit loud.

        • William

          Also back in the day, I had this really asshole detective. One cold frosty morning just before he left to go testify in superior court I dumped sparkles down the defroster vent of his unmarked car. Did a real number on that black three piece suit. He actually dusted the car for fingerprints (like I don’t own gloves).

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            lol, nicely done.

            ; p
            We apparently work with LEO’s, so I’m hoping that will go well.