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Kids, it’s another of those stories where we need to remind you not to hurl your computer, tablet, or phone across the room. If you’re reading at work, you may want to make sure you can muffle your curses as you proceed. A Salt Lake City nurse was illegally placed under arrest, with excessive force, by a Salt Lake City police detective who dragged her off to jail — for the crime of explaining that, no, hospital policy (and a 2016 decision by the Supreme Court) prevented her from drawing blood from an unconscious accident victim, even though the detective really, really wanted the blood sample and insisted he needed the blood sample because he’s a cop. The Salt Lake Tribune explains:

Footage from University Hospital and officer body cameras shows Detective Jeff Payne and nurse Alex Wubbels in a standoff over whether the policeman should be allowed to get a blood sample from a patient who had been injured in a July 26 collision in northern Utah that left another driver dead.

We see Wubbels explaining to the cop, and to a supervisor on speakerphone, that there are three conditions under which she can draw blood: If the police have a warrant — even an electronic one — authorizing the blood draw, if the patient consents, or if the patient is under arrest. She even holds up a document with the policy on it for Payne and his body cam. “I’m just trying to do what I’m supposed to do,” Wubbels says, apologetically.

Payne Goes into full Tough Cop Mode: “OK, so I take it without those in place, I’m not gonna get blood. Am I fair to surmise that?” The administrator on the phone tells Payne that he’s making a “huge mistake, because you’re threatening a nurse,” and Payne loses it, says “OK, we’re done. You’re under arrest. We’re going. You’re done” as he grabs for Wubbels.

Much though you guys hate the videos, you probably should try to get through this one, because Jesus H. Christ in an illegal chokehold, this is awful:

As Payne cuffs Wubbels, she’s still holding the crumpled blood-draw document in her hand, and we hear the supervisor trying to tell the cop that administrators are on the way. Wubbels screams, “Help! Help! Somebody help me! Stop! Stop! I did nothing wrong!” as police officers, including some there providing security for the hospital do nothing, because who’s going to interfere with a Fellow Officer?

The Tribune also notes that, in earlier portions of the hospital and body cam videos, Payne

threatens to take Wubbels to jail if he doesn’t get the sample, and he accuses her of interfering with a criminal case.

“I either go away with blood in vials or body in tow,” Payne says.

At another point in the video, after he’s put Wubbels in his patrol car, Payne tells another cop that he’s going to get even with University Hospital when he’s working his other, off-duty job with an ambulance company:

“I’ll bring them all the transients and take good patients elsewhere,” Payne says.

He seems nice. We bet the people of Salt Lake City feel a lot safer knowing brave men like this are not only arresting uppity nurses, but also making community healthcare decisions.

Karra Porter, an attorney representing Wubbels, showed some of the video at a press conference Thursday. Porter said that no claim or lawsuit against the city or the police department has been filed, but that she’s talked about the incident with SLC police in hopes that the department will take the opportunity to educate officers (on how to not be power-tripping dicks, we added for her).

No charges were ultimately brought against Wubbels, who says she’d heard stories of other healthcare workers being bullied by cops, and if you want proof there’s a problem, here it is on video:

“I can’t sit on this video and not attempt to speak out both to re-educate and inform,” she said. Police agencies “need to be having conversations about what is appropriate intervention.”

Detective Payne has been temporarily suspended from a program where cops are trained to draw blood samples, but hooray, he’s still on duty while the case is investigated internally, according to SLC police spokesperson Sgt. Brandon Shearer, who also said the department has held training of some kind following the incident at the hospital.

Payne, for his part, doesn’t seem to see why anyone thinks there’s much of a problem here. His written report said he’d been asked to get a blood sample by police in Logan, Utah, to see if the accident victim — who, again, was the victim of another driver — had any intoxicants in his system. He said he was trying to explain to Wubbels that he had “implied consent” from the unconscious victim for a blood draw, but the nurse just wouldn’t listen, so Payne’s watch commander told him to arrest her for interfering with an investigation. The watch commander said in his report on the incident that he’d tried to explain the whole implied consent thing to Wubbels on the phone, but she cut him off and insisted that without a warrant, there would be no blood.

Guess who knows the law and who doesn’t? Attorney Karra Porter told the Tribune that Utah courts haven’t recognized “implied consent” since 2007. Looks like it’s been 10 years since some Utah cops have been updated on that. And while the U.S. Supreme Court did rule in 2016 to allow warrantless breathalyzer tests in drunk-driving arrests, drawing blood still requires a warrant — and in this case, the patient wasn’t a suspect, but a victim who wasn’t suspected of wrongdoing in the first place.

Now, it turns out the accident victim, William Gray, is a reserve officer in the Rigby, Idaho, police; his main job is as a truck driver, and he was badly burned when a driver fleeing from the Utah Highway Patrol crossed the center line and crashed his pickup head-on into the semi driven by Gray. The driver of the pickup died; Gray is in serious condition at University Hospital.

Detective Payne said in his report that he wanted the blood draw to protect the patient, not to gather evidence of wrongdoing, so our completely amateur legal analysis is that the detective wanted to be absolutely sure a Brother Officer would have a clean toxicology test, just in case the idiot who crashed into Gray’s semi — or his family — sued. But then a nurse went and got in his face and started spouting off about rules, and so it was time to go Dirty Harry on her, because as every good cop knows, rules just get in the way of Justice.

It’s policing in America, 2017 style. The real question is why Wubbels and the staff of University Hospital haven’t profusely thanked Payne for not shooting her dead.

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  • beingreleased
    • Beanz&Berryz

      I might have to start doing that…

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Andrew Jackson does not deserve Sister Harriet on his face.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Think of it as… ohhh…massive civil disobedience.. imagine if millionses of $20s keep needing to get replaced because they keep getting fixed by the peoplez… And there’s no-one for cops to hit with a stick…

    • TheGrandWazoo2

      If my dad was alive and still had his rubber stamp making business I’d be getting rich with my Tubman face rubber stamp on ebay.

      • beingreleased

        That you would, my friend. I saw this idea from several different people on Twitter. I really hope this goes national.

      • HorseChestnut

        Do it, there are lots of small stamp manufacturers. I thought about it but I have a severe allergy to promoting and selling things. If you know how to do marketing, go for it!

  • Iron Monkey

    I’ll take your word for it Doc–no way I am going to watch a heroic nurse get choked by a cop. That’s what prose is for so I don’t have to see the video–you describe it so well it may be as affecting as watching the damn thing though.

  • MynameisBlarney

    What a fucking piece of shit fascist asshole.
    Motherfucker needs to be fired ASAP.

    • Nounverb911

      And LOCK HIM UP!

      • OneYieldRegular

        Speaking of which, why aren’t we all following Donald Trump to each of his appearances and loudly chanting, “LOCK HIM UP!”? I mean, um, aside from respecting due process and all that.

    • P’jama Pahnts

      But but, trump won!

  • TakingAmes

    I watched until he started dragging her away, and then I had to stop. My hubs is an ER doc, and this could SO EASILY happen if one encounters a cop on a power trip. I can’t imagine the hospital’s security going along, though.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Hospital security not stepping in to chill down the fucked-up cop is like level 3 or 4 of the fucked-upedness

      • OutOfOrbit

        i think the word you’re looking for is “cowardice”

        • Paul

          Or ass kissing so maybe someday they can be real big boy cops and not glorified mall cops in a hospital.

          • nothingisamiss

            The issue here, from what I understand is that the hospital employs off-duty real cops as security. One of their own.

          • Paul

            Oh, FFS!! All the cops in this story moonlight. The asshole does ambulance duty. When do they sleep? I know, I know, in their cruisers parked in some out of the way spot.

            Maybe if they got adequate sleep they wouldn’t be so cranky and prone to piss poor judgment.

    • Carlos

      Well, if it makes you feel any better, it could also happen to him when he is driving or walking down the street, or even relaxing in his own home.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    Detective Payne said in his report that he wanted the blood draw to protect the patient, not to gather evidence of wrongdoing, so our completely amateur legal analysis is that the detective wanted to be absolutely sure a Brother Officer would have a clean toxicology test, just in case the idiot who crashed into Gray’s semi — or his family — sued.

    Or…since it was a high-speed police pursuit, maybe looking for dirt on the victim to ensure any lawsuit by the family against the Highway Patrol for potentially reckless conduct goes nowhere.

    • Iron Monkey

      This what I thought when the story popped up on my newfeed–the cops wanted someone to blame if the high speed pursuit issue came up.

    • Paul

      High speed pursuits and high speed unconstitutional arrests for seeking evidence unconstitutionally. Nope. I don’t see any problems with aggressive cops.

      RESPECT THEIR AUTHORITAH!!!11!!

    • nothingisamiss

      Exactly. And imagine if he had tested positive? What shit would his health/auto insurance company be giving to him and his family who are trying to get through this fucking nightmare?

      • willi0000000

        as long as they knew he was a part-time cop if he tested positive nobody would ever have heard anything about it.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    1. “Alex Wubbles” is a totally adorable name.
    2. Well, at least she is a white nurse, so she’s still alive.

    • OutOfOrbit

      there is that

    • jesterpunk
      • kaydenpat

        So glad that jerk was fired. Disgusting.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      I had that #2 thought also too…

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        I think it, and then I feel I shouldn’t say it, but I have no doubt that if she were black (unlikely in Utah, but still), she would have at least been tased and beaten.

        Not that I am approving of ANYTHING that happened here.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          And, oh my, a black male nurse… ugh…

      • Paul

        Sadly, we all did. God damn this really makes me fucking stabby.

    • Jack Had A Permit

      If #2 were different. she’d have clearly been resisting, reaching for a weapon and a possible gang member.

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        Scrubs are the new hoodie.

        • Jack Had A Permit

          She’s lucky she didn’t have a bag of Skittles.

    • kaydenpat

      Thank goodness for small blessings.

  • stumpknocker

    well you know, trump said he wanted to see cops get more rough with people, i’m sure he approved this video.

    • kaydenpat

      Probably will pardon the jerk too should he face any charges.

      • Bobathonic

        Doesn’t work for state charges, so there’s that. Also too, prednisential pardons don’t work on nurses.

        • willi0000000

          “Doesn’t work for state charges”

          like t’Rump knows that . . . or cares.

  • Nounverb911

    Thank Jeebus for inventing body cams.

    • Ill-Advised

      And dept. regulations for wearing them. With the switch ON, mah brothas an’ sistuhs. On.

  • Beanz&Berryz

    Well, the injured guy being the victim explains why Sicko Cop Fucked didn’t just slap cuffs on him to be under arrest for a blood draw… Wouldn’t want to be accused of false arrest, of a near corpse…

  • OneYieldRegular

    So this guy wants to “get even” with a hospital?

    This cop has no idea what he’s just set himself up for. I know nurses. Nurses ain’t bean-bag.

    • jesterpunk

      Nurses also talk to other nurses at other hospitals.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        And they might see the news or Interwebz too

        • nothingisamiss

          It is burning up on my highly nurse-centric FB feed.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Do they avoid wonkish bad words?

    • HorseChestnut

      The First Rule of Medicine is: Don’t fuck with the nurses.

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        I make it a personal rule never to argue with people who get paid to stab people with sharp objects.

        • ltmcdies

          true…I can choose between the lovely fine pointed 22 gauge needle or that big honking garden hose of a 16 Gauge

          • Beanz&Berryz

            sorry.. I bet I hit the vein THIS time…

          • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

            Oh that was an artery! Let me try again…

          • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

            I used to get the 14 gauge ones for dialysis. Oh, that was no fun.

          • Viva La Tabula Raza

            Like a roofing nail.

          • Viva La Tabula Raza

            “Ooopsie! We accidentally gave you the IV with the chemical castration drug in it! Sorry!”

        • GunToting[Redacted]

          Or spend time alone in another room with your food. These are really not hard to understand.

      • Oblios_Cap

        My old roommate, many years ago, was a corpsman in the Air Force. They would refrigerate the penicillin vials of assholes who would come in for a shot. I hear it was quite painful to get a shot of cold penicillin. Room temp was bad enough.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Good luck with that testicular torsion now, Asshole!

    • ltmcdies

      I wonder if he knows every ER nurse’s lounge has his picture on a dart board right now…

      and we never fucking forget

      • nothingisamiss

        Never.

    • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

      Next time he is in, there will be a accidental placebo IV that found it’s way into his painkillers.

      Disclaimer: I am not a nurse. Do not do this.

  • Msgr_MΩment
  • elviouslyqueer

    Dear Alex,

    As the husband of a fellow nurse (and dear friend to someone who is AT THIS VERY MOMENT launching several online petitions to send this very assholish cop to the nearest jail), I have only one thing to advise:

    Sue. Logan. To. Ashes.

    And then sue the ashes.

    Best of luck,

    EQ

    • Beanz&Berryz

      It’s the only way they’ll change… or maybe change… Wordses are cheap…

    • Paul

      Howzabout a link to a petition or two? I’ll sign, gladly.

      • kbbaldwin2

        You can go to the department website and file a complaint.

        • Paul

          This is Wonk. We are lazy. We don’t even wear pants. Same question: linky thing to the department?

          Linky things are good.

    • Ill-Advised

      Link to petitions available?

    • nothingisamiss

      I’d be so hot on that. I wonder if she’s worried about cop-blowback, though. A real thing.

    • monoglot

      So, sue Payne ‘n the ash?

  • Nounverb911

    Something tells me this going to be used a lot this weekend.

    https://twitter.com/perlberg/status/903606551834918913

  • ltmcdies

    as an RN, I can’t even watch this bloody nonsense. You want that blood so badly, cop…go get a god damn warrant.

    but I guess getting a warrant for the victim might be tough, huh

    Also….stop being nice and “we want to educate” RN Wubbels….sue their god damn asses off.

    Huge settlements for rights violations appears to be the only thing that gets through to some people

    • Suttree

      The cop still doesn’t have to pay for it out of his own pocket though. So they still don’t really give a damn. Only when you start bankrupting whole departments/towns(?), will changes be made.

      • suziq

        But now that it has gone viral I suspect he may lose his job and find it hard to get another job for a while. And that will hurt. I saw headlines to this story in several other places (only read it here though-go for the best!)

    • OutOfOrbit

      even then, when it’s tax-payers’ money it rarely changes anything

    • Oblios_Cap

      No judge would grant a warrant and the puissant knows it.

    • nothingisamiss

      That was the one part of the story I didn’t understand. I mean, sure, we can be nice, but whatever the fuck……I’d need his job gone, an apology and a really nice out of court settlement.

  • Suttree

    Oh, the cop was trying to help. Well that makes it all better! I hope this poor nurse gets a nice retirement out of this.

  • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

    Well if the police order (at gun point) a non-government individual to draw the blood then it is not a violation of the non-suspects rights, because the government was not the one drawing blood.

    -Conservative SCOTUS.

    • jesterpunk

      Gorsuch is ok with anything as long as it helps companies or police. He is also A Idiot that the other conservative judges had to tell him to STFU.

  • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

    i was going to say get the fucking warrant, but then I see the explanation and suspect he would never have gotten it.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Even a “rubber stamp” judge probably would have been “Hang on a sec…”

    • PubOption

      “The guy was in a head-on crash, and is now unconscious in the hospital . The guy in the other vehicle died. We think alcohol was involved.” Should be enough to persuade a judge.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        well, obfuscated that way and a sleepy judge, maybe.

        Do i have this right? The victim of the crash, teh one NOT running from the cops and suspect drunk driver was the one they were trying to get blood from, right?

        • PubOption

          Yes, you are right.

  • kaydenpat

    For the sake of my already way too high blood pressure, I’ve yet to watch this video. Cops really have to stop acting like this. It’s not helpful to their profession and doesn’t make anyone safer.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    At one point he even says it’s okay to commit a gross violation of someone’s Constitutional Rights, because if he’s wrong the courts will just throw the evidence out later. You know, because they can just make the violation (and the disciplinary action that the hospital or the State Nursing Board could take against her for violating policy and law) magically go away.

    • GoutMachine

      So by that logic, I should just go ahead and kill someone on the off-chance that I’ll get acquitted on some technicality.

      • Suttree

        You can just move to Florida and you won’t need no stinkin’ technicality.

        • GoutMachine

          True. Plus, I’m white, so win-win!

      • Beanz&Berryz

        “He mighta been going for a weapon”… Has worked more than once…

      • kbbaldwin2

        Depends. Do you have a badge?

        • willi0000000

          seems lately that when you get a badge you get a lifetime supply of Depends™.

          [ is it really that pants-shittingly scary to be a cop? ]

    • Oblios_Cap

      Being comatose is just a version of the “Silence means consent” rule, obviously.

      • h4rr4r

        So next time I want to push my code to production I just need to hand out cokes with ketamine?

        • Oblios_Cap

          Whatever cranks your tractor.

          • h4rr4r

            It is just we use that all the time at work.
            Emails declaring something will be done often end with “Silence is acceptance”. Just means if you don’t complain now, you don’t get to complain later.

  • Marceline

    Where are all those “white lives matter” folks now?

  • GoutMachine

    No lawsuit? At the very least they need to sue the ever-loving shit out of that asshole. And he should have his badge removed and melted down in front of him. Fuck that guy.

    And I’m still waiting for all those “good cops” out there to denounce this shit. Good thing I’m not also holding my breath.

  • Treg Brown

    Bad apple, right?

    It’s not that the whole fucking bunch of cops in conservative areas aren’t complete fascist animals who have gotten away and will continue to get away with this type of shit, until something significant changes.

    • GunToting[Redacted]

      Somewhere in Mesa a disgraced former sheriff just got the first stiffy he’s had in 30 years.

    • Suttree

      The original proverb was more along the lines of “a few bad apples spoil the bunch”. Assholes ignore that just as they do the full text of the 2nd amendment.

  • Khavrinen

    “Payne tells another cop that he’s going to get even with University Hospital when he’s working his other, off-duty job with an ambulance company”

    Because, obviously, when the hospital’s administrators and legal department formulated that policy and instructed their employees to follow it, it was for the sole purpose of personally interfering with this one random police officer they’d never heard of before this, and not for anything crazy like protecting people’s rights or something.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      “I didn’t get to abuse the system for my own (bizarre) motivations, UNFAIR!” – that cop

    • Canis Greyhame

      He needs to be fired from both of his jobs.

  • jesterpunk

    She is way to nice to not sue, she should sue the shit out of him, the police department and the other cops/ security guards around. Maybe then they will learn how to do their fucking jobs and train the police correctly. Although police departments can legally refuse to hire intelligent officers.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

    And they do hire a lot of cops on a power trip.Here is a hint police, if you want people to trust you and not call all cops bad start doing something about assholes like this instead of ignoring it.

    • GoutMachine

      Precisely. “Not all cops!” Well, then, all you “good ones,” speak up and denounce this shit!

      • jesterpunk

        Not just denounce, get rid of the bad cops and make sure they don’t go to another department.

        • GoutMachine

          At this point, mere denouncing would be a quantum leap.

        • Suttree

          Some sort of national registry would be nice, but alas, the government couldn’t possibly do something that expensive and complex.

      • tehbaddr

        The Blue Line! You want to be on the bad side of a crooked cop working with you?

        • Paul

          Then don’t join the force. Easy.

        • willi0000000

          if the cops policed themselves as hard as they police others* you would never have to work alongside a crooked cop.

          * and that’s not a high bar

          • Ill-Advised

            They don’t. This is why they need IA. And the depth of that hatred tells you everything you need to know. (You already knew.)

        • Ill-Advised

          You want to be on the good side of a crooked cop? What would that make you?

    • OutOfOrbit

      the hires are hired by like-minded knuckle-draggers

    • Vincent Ricola

      Unfortunately, the poor lady has legitimate fears about being pulled over and roughed up by cop bros for the rest of her life. “Protect and Serve”

      • Suttree

        Mo’ money, mo’ money!

    • hendenburg2

      “Insecure, Frustrated Bully With Something To Prove Considering Career In Law Enforcement”

      http://www.theonion.com/article/insecure-frustrated-bully-with-something-to-prove–33427

      • jesterpunk

        That sounds more true then the onion might have known when they wrote it.

        • hendenburg2

          Nope. I’m sure they knew exactly how true it was when they wrote it.

      • willi0000000

        they just missed one point . .. “eighteen-year-old recent high school graduate” should have been “twenty-three-year-old…”

        [ . . . but, i guess, that many factual identifiers would have gotten them defamation lawsuits from too many cops ]

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Cops v Nurses. Who’s everybody got?

  • Weird Fishes

    Christ, that was chilling.

    Hi, kittehz. Cute, fluffy kittehz.

    Pet pet pet.

    Good kittehz.

  • DainBramage

    A better (or worse) explanation of why the cops wanted the victim’s blood sample was to show that he was impaired in some way, so he (the victim) couldn’t sue the Utah Highway Patrol.

    • GoutMachine

      That, or vampirism.

      • Oblios_Cap

        Why not both?

  • TJ Barke
  • beingreleased

    Lt. Doyle: Now don’t get me angry. This is America. Not even a detective can just walk into an apartment and search it. Why personaly, if I was caught in there, they’d have my badge within 10 minutes.

    Jeff: Then make sure you don’t get caught, that’s all. If you find something, you have a murder. They’d probaly not care very much about a few broken house rules. If you don’t find anything, the fellow’s clear.

    —- From Rear Window (1954)

    [Make sure you read Jeff’s lines in your best Jimmy Stewart voice.]

    • GoutMachine

      It was a simpler time.

      • beingreleased

        The next line, which wasn’t included where I found this, involves the words “Constitution” and “Search Warrant.” Who knew they even had these laws back then.

        • GoutMachine

          Well, to be fair, everyone in that movie was white, so …

  • Oblios_Cap

    That wouldn’t have happened if Obama had let the PD have tanks and other surplus military equipment, I’m sure!

  • Crank Tango

    with votes or whatever, #notallcops, etc.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5fts7bj-so

    • h4rr4r

      #YesAllCops

      If the “good” cops want to be recognized as such they would act when these things happen. Until then they are accomplices in crime.

      • Crank Tango

        Thanks for the correction.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Much though you guys hate the videos, you probably should try to get through this one, because Jesus H. Christ in an illegal chokehold, this is awful

    How bad can it be?

    (clicks, watches)

    https://media.giphy.com/media/QgcQLZa6glP2w/200.gif

    • Mr. Blobfish

      I ain’t watching that. I’ve seen enough bad for one week.

  • Holly

    When things get this bad I have to bring out the big guns in order to maintain my equilibrium. Here’s more kitty for your emotional well being kids. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fc01adccc464f0fc281ae142eecccbd5a6e91fcedc903e6c3bdd5a0c87ec4afd.gif

  • Suttree

    I have a friend who is a Trauma 1 E.R. nurse, and a wingnut. i really wonder what her response to this will be. I guess that she’ll side with the nurse because she is smarter than she is mean.

  • ltmcdies

    FYI…apparently Ms Wubbels is a former Winter Olympian….boy those Utah cops really picked just about the worst person for their reputation to screw with on camera, didn’t they.

  • BigBoppa ~ Résistent

    These little misunderstandings won’t happen anymore when Clark and Arpaio come on board to head up the Trump Gestapo and SS.

  • Timothy Watson

    When are we going to start arresting fascist cops for aggravated assaulted (or attempted murder, which is what a chokehold is) and kidnapping?

  • jesterpunk

    cat.exe has crashed and needs to be restarted.

    http://i.giftrunk.com/ay78gc.gif

  • Vincent Ricola

    What in the fuck, Utah? WHAT IN THE FUCK, UTAH?!!!!

  • Tom65

    Asshole cop doesn’t get his way, starts in with RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH and shit blows up. Same shit, different day.

  • Professor Fate

    They really make it hard not to despise police officers don’t they?

    • Jack Had A Permit

      That’s why I stopped trying not to.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
  • Jack Had A Permit

    Funny thing is, this guy’s face is up everywhere and, as has been pointed out in the non-comment section here, nurses never forget. Also, too, the medical community is just that, a community.

    I have four doctors in four different locations not connected to to pone medical group. The nurses there all know each other and, by extension, know me. Granted, I signed releases so as to make it easier to receive the best treatment possible, but I still know that they talk.

    How do I know this? My sister-in-law is a nurse practitioner here. She tells me all kinds of dirt and just ‘knows’ what’s going on with people who have never even seen her professionally. Doctor’s talk, nurses talk, everybody talks.

    This guy, he’ll be treated, that is the law, However, there is no law that mandates just how painless or easy that treatment may be. There are all kinds of things nurses can do, within ethical and legal boundaries, to show protest. One example is in drawing blood. Drawing blood can either be super easy, or insanely painful. “So sorry, I just can’t find a vein! Have to try again!” I’m sure some of our resident nurses can back this up and maybe add more to this list.

    TL ;DR Nurses will fuck you up and never come close to getting caught. This guy has o clue what kind of wrath he’s unleashed upon himself,

    • jesterpunk

      “Oh sorry, we are a little busy and cant come check on you right now, we will get to you as soon as these more critical patients are taken care of.”

      • Jack Had A Permit

        He has moved himself to the back of the triage line, that’s for sure.

      • Courser_Resistance

        The opposite is also true. If you’re nice to the nurses and treat them with respect, you can have almost anything you want/need.

        • jesterpunk

          Yep, I was in the hospital for a week and a half for diverticulitis surgery and an infection after surgery. The nurses where all really nice because I didnt bother them unless it was something important and serious. Once I could eat and drink again they told me where the fridge was and told me I could take as many drinks as I wanted anytime I wanted them. Granted that might have also been a trick to get me to walk around but it was still nice.

          • Courser_Resistance

            Same here. After shoulder surgery, I was allowed to roam the floor at all hours and get my own drinks. Even with pain meds, it’s really too painful to just lay in bed.

          • jesterpunk

            I couldn’t get up for most of the time because of the tube up my nose into my stomach from the infection.

        • Jack Had A Permit

          Having had twelve different extended hospital stays in the last two decades, I have seen this firsthand. In person, I’m nice to a fault, soft-spoken and respectful. In one case, that attitude got me a private room with a TV on the Psych Ward, which is the biggest perk you can get.

    • darnyoudarnyoutoheck

      Plus many, many nurses are married to cops, his social life just became a very interesting piece of hell.

      • Jack Had A Permit

        First responders are also a very tight knit group. They really have to look out for each other.

    • GunToting[Redacted]

      As a former phlebotomists, I can attest that this is true.

      • Bobathonic

        A skilled phlebotomist is a delight.

  • DerrickWildcat
  • Mr. Blobfish

    Sounds like Detective Roidrage needs to go spend more time with his family.

    • AJ Milne

      Seems kinda hard on his family.

  • SayItWithWookies

    So – the original suspect was dead; the cop couldn’t get anything to incriminate the victim – so clearly somebody had to be arrested or the whole day would’ve been wasted.

  • Molon Labe

    What a DoucheBadge….

  • Iron Monkey

    Choker cop is horrible and should be fired. Watch commander who told him to go ahead with the arrest is horrible in a different way–watch commander is supposed to keep shit like this from happening, not encourage it.

    I am closely related to both nurses and cops and find that nurses are much better at drawing a line on behavior that is simply not allowed to happen than cops for whom the line is always moving.

    • OrdinaryJoe

      As a former DA, I learned to trust nurses over cops when I needed a witness. They are better educated, they do regular in service training, they take that training seriously, they do a lot of self study education, they are trained to stay focused on the task under life and death conditions, as such they are incredible observers of their surroundings and the things going on, they are very good at following rules and regulations, especially those that deal with patient care and hospital admin, and most important, they are will commit totally to their patient no matter what.

  • BrianW

    Let’s throw a little sexism into the mix as well. How dare that nurse (a mere WOMAN) disobey HIM. Add in a dash of religion if you want, ‘cuz of the location.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      As weird as SLC is in general, in it’s own way of weird, I think we can’t automatically impute LDS with this cop’s behavior…

      • BrianW

        Granted, attributing it directly to Mormonism might be a bit of a stretch. However, the male dominant attitude seems to be in a lot of religious denominations, not just theirs.

      • Courser_Resistance

        Agreed. I’ve known many, many LDS folks and they are nothing like this. Even the most prudish ones are more likely to give you a yummy recipe than resort to any kind of violence. They have an extremely effective form of shunning however.

    • WIDTAP

      Especially an Olympic competitor woman, who has retired from athletics to a life of service as a nurse. Who the hell does she think she is – a professional or something.

  • Covfefe

    Does anyone care that if the cop doesn’t get the blood sample he loses the bust?

    • BrianW

      No, because according to the article the blood sample was from the VICTIM of the accident.

    • Crank Tango
    • Saxo the Grammarian
      • NastyBossetti

        This invalidates every argument I’ve ever made in my life.

    • doktorzoom

      There’s no bust. The patient is not a suspect, he’s a victim in an accident.

    • WIDTAP

      The cop could have gone to a judge and got a warrant for the blood sample. His supervisor, who apparently had the time to drive out to the hospital to taunt the nurse after she had been arrested and thrown into the back of a police vehicle could have used the drive time instead to get an electronic warrant from a judge, and transmitted to the officer or the hospital.

      So no, I don’t care if the cop loses the bust of the victim of the traffic accident because he and his supervisor are unable to follow the Fourth Amendment.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      relax everyone, Covfefe is a master of the poe.

      • doktorzoom

        A raven avatar is a Poe? Inconceivable!

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          lol.
          But no, he/she is really really really good at getting mistaken for trolling.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Nit sure why we should care even if there was a valid bust, since he wouldn’t do it legally.

    • Ill-Advised

      No.

      The way you get evidence can cause it to get thrown out.

      He lost the bust he never had, and his reputation as well…or what’s left of it. If he could do this, he’s got form elsewhere, even is only other chips know.

  • Edith Prickly
  • GoutMachine

    OT, but more from the Friday Fun Day!

    Mueller Has Early Draft of Trump Letter Giving Reasons for Firing Comey

    The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has obtained a letter that President Trump and a top political aide drafted in the days before Mr. Trump fired the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, which explains the president’s rationale for why he planned to dismiss the director.

    The May letter had been met with opposition from Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, who believed that some of its contents were problematic, according to interviews with a dozen administration officials and others briefed on the matter.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/politics/trump-comey-firing-letter.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share

    • Mr. Blobfish

      Most of what this administration does is problematic. On second thought, change ‘most’ to ‘all’.

  • Rick Hill

    Welcome to America. Where the party of law and personal responsibility will one moment claim they are strictly for increased lawfulness and the next stand behind these kind of actions. Or, as I heard on On Point this morning, the preznit is totally for a having law and order so that’s why he’s authorized giving cops bayonets and grenade launchers

    • TJ Barke

      Law and Order seems to be diametrically opposed to Liberty and Justice.

    • Grumpy Twat

      Bayonets? Rlly?

  • Edith Prickly

    Mom of Prickly was an RN and her father was a cop – neither of them would have stood for this kind of shit.

  • Alexander Stallwitz
  • Baconzgood

    I wonder how much this has to do with MADD?

    I was told by a cop relative that MADD gives an arresting officer $50 every time they get a drunk driving “guilty” plea/conviction.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      that’s…god I hope that’s not true.

    • doktorzoom

      In this case, it couldn’t, since the patient was the victim and the driver who hit his truck was dead at the scene. And the case wasn’t even in his jurisdiction. Det. Payne wanted the blood test, a nurse got in his way, and somebody had to feel pain.

      • Baconzgood

        So he was being a dick for dick sake. Nice.

        • doktorzoom

          bingo!

        • doktorzoom

          “I could just be arguing on my own time.”

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Points for “argument clinic” reference!

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      I very much doubt there is any truth to that at all, but I’m not familiar with every state. Accepting money in return for a conviction would be a blatant violation of most state’s anti-corruption laws, and as a practical matter, any defense attorney worth the name would destroy the credibility of any cop receiving such a payment in about 20 seconds on the witness stand.

      MADD does give (non-monetary) awards to cops who write lots of DUIs, though.

      • Baconzgood

        It’s not corruption after a conviction.

  • Mpeg

    Payne tells another cop that he’s going to get even with University Hospital when he’s working his other, off-duty job with an ambulance company:

    “I’ll bring them all the transients and take good patients elsewhere,” Payne says.

    See, Payne’s the real victim, here. A victim of icky VAGRANTS as well as the hospitals who [de]serve them!!

    • Grumpy Twat

      How/why do cops have another, off-duty job as ambulance drivers?

      I’m sure that would be impossible in the UK.

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        I don’t know about cops but firefighters have additional part time jobs, at least around here(NC). They work 24 hour shifts and have a 6 day break every 3 weeks. I wouldn’t want this asshole anywhere near an ambulance or drawing blood. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’d been suspended from the blood drawing program for using too large a gauge needle and torturing the blood drawee.

        • Grumpy Twat

          Thanks for that.

          Hmmmm, 24 hour shifts for emergency service staff. What could possibly go wrong?

          • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

            Actually, most of them including my son likes it– except for the occasional night when there are back-to-back-to back calls. And they can sleep on duty if there aren’t any calls.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Cops don’t violate people’s rights because the want to; they do it because they don’t think those rights matter. That’s the point of “Blue Lives Matter” — that the lives of everyone else are less important than the unfettered ability of cops to do cop things with absolutely no oversight.

    • Edith Prickly

      Yes, they seem to have a problem comprehending that they are accountable for the power they’re given.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        that’s because they’re not.

  • Tom65

    “An internal investigation by the SLC police department has determined that this was all a big misunderstanding and Officer Juicer has been restored to full active duty, with a raise. Further, the SLC police have dropped all charges of resisting arrest.”

    Mark my words.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      The dipshits need to track the statute of limitations on the claim before they do that….

      When did this thing happen? Just very recently?

      • Earle

        July 26 – just over a month ago. The accident victim is still in the hospital!

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Ohhh… so, there’s probably at least until July of next year that the police department/city has to do something that looks right to run out the SOL clock…

  • OrdinaryJoe

    Everybody knows cops don’t shoot white people. Saw something about that here just a few days ago.

  • MynameisBlarney

    “Pet owners capture what their pets look like before and after being called a good boy”

    LOL at 17.

    http://cheezburger.com/1295877/pet-owners-capture-what-their-animals-look-like-before-and-after-being-called-a-good-boy

  • Msgr_MΩment
  • GunToting[Redacted]

    I’m sure Dave “Flair” Clark will fix all this when he gets appointed Obergruppenführer of Police Relations in the Drumpf administration.

    • Jeff Ackerman

      I read that as Obergropenforher

      • GoutMachine

        You say Kartoffel …

  • tehbaddr

    And then they get upset, when people call them Fucking Pigs!

    • OutOfOrbit

      FUCK THE PIGS! FUCK’EM ALL!

      • tehbaddr

        Hehe, Pig Fucker?

    • Fucking libel! Pigs libel!

      • tehbaddr

        This is true, at least pigs taste good when properly seasoned/smoked/prepared.

  • Daniel Hooper

    How stupid is this cop? Does he seriously think the state of a victim in an accident is really going to be an issue with the hospital or law enforcement? As long as the victim wasn’t going into an oncoming lane or otherwise where he shouldn’t have been, anything else he might have been on isn’t gonna matter to anyone. Not only was he an asshole, he was an asshole without cause.

    • Courser_Resistance

      Yeah, his fervor seems odd.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    OT the boy king will make an announcement re DACA today or this weekend. Sorry chatcave, count on another Friday news dump to preempt the open thread tonight

    • Courser_Resistance

      Oh yay. Back from vacation just in time. (Should have stayed in the mtns.)

    • Jack Had A Permit

      That’s the safest bet imaginable. Another safe bet? He’s gonna cancel DACA.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        count on it- it’s the dumbest, most assholish move he could make, so he will

        • Jack Had A Permit

          It has the dual purpose of appealing to his base AND reversing another Obama era policy. What other reasons does he need?

          • Beanz&Berryz

            No others…

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            BINGO!

            and he’s desperate for some ego gratification

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          Well. DACA is an Obama thing, right? Donnie just can’t help but to do away with Obama things.

          Donnie is such a turd.

    • cmd resistor

      I was reading a headline about Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ news briefing scheduled for 2:30 (still hasn’t started) and the same headline mentioned pending DACA so I was wondering if she might announce it. I also keep seeing headlings about unlikely people saying not to end it – people like Paul Ryan, Orrin Hatch. So, will Trump do his contrary thing and go against the advice. Oh, Sarah just started talking.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        just started

        • cmd resistor

          So she said they would announce on Tuesday about DACA. In response to about a million questions, she gave the same answer, we are finalizing the details and decision, SHUT UP YOU ANNOYING REPORTERS.

  • BosGrl

    Boston’s WCVB posted this story on Facebook and dear God, the comments, including one guy who #MAKEAMERICAGREATAGAIN’d each attempt to explain why we should do whatever the cops want and another person who kept insisting there was a warrant when clearly there wasn’t. I wonder if these people truly understand what living in a police state would really be like.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Charles Pierce said things will get darker than these loons ever imagined. They all want a strong daddy so badly.

    • OutOfOrbit

      Of course, not; they’re imbeciles.

    • BrianW

      They think they understand it. They are also pretty sure it would never happen to THEM, for whatever reason.

    • Daniel

      They don’t, but that doesn’t matter to them. Like lots of people in lots of police states, they believe they personally will never be targeted by the police. They follow the rules, and when they don’t it’s not like it’s anything serious. The people that the police go after are criminals, it’s basically by definition what they do, and the people who want a police state aren’t criminals. They never would be criminals. They’d be safe.
      They’d lie awake at night waiting for the knock on the door- of their neighbour’s house.

  • Mpeg

    Unfortunately for this latest public menace — “Y’see I’m from Utah” doesn’t have the usual bully-charming, self-affirming effect~

    • Nockular cavity

      It doesn’t for Cornyn, either.

  • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

    Guess what Detective Payne if you’re ever injured and brought to the ED, I bet Alex Wubbels,RN would take excellent care of you even if you’re a motherfucking asshole. Nurses be like that. I hope he loses his job.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      He should be arrested for assault.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Arrested, tried, and sent to jail… And no bail the fucker in the meantime…

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        And battery. He put his hands on her.

    • blaid droog

      I hope the sonofabitch is ruined for life. Trump will probably give him a medal

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    Yes, things are going exactly as planned – first we shoot all the black motorists, then we arrest all the nurses, then America loves us.

    -Steve Bannon,
    Deep State Chief

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    welp, we finally got the dystopian hellhole all those scared white bigots wanted…

    Make
    America
    Fascist
    Again

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Make
      America
      Großdeutschland
      Again

    • Daniel

      Or for us in the rest of the world

      Make
      Americans
      Grate
      Again.

  • Jenny

    Sue the fuck out of them.

  • OutOfOrbit

    Not a cop! Not a cop! He’s a Pig!

  • Noxious Resistance

    SUE, BABBY, SUE!!! Make’m pay!

  • Blackest Noobs

    goddamn it folks. this is an easy fix.

    it’s called fucking P R O F E S S I O N I A L I S M.

    and it applies to fucking everything. everyone.

    we’ve all got sloppy and lazy and slacked in the ass ( some more than other, I’m looking at you Mr. President…seriously get on a stepper for like five minutes a day you fat bastard)

    this is a lack of professionalism.

    i dunno what would snap us, all of us, out of it. zombie horde? alien invasion? kettle corn cuz it’s fucking disgusting…i dunno….I JUST DONT KNOW!

    ok…

  • blaid droog

    And these motherfuckers wonder why no one has respect for the police.

  • Ryan Denniston

    “It’s policing in America, 2017 style. The
    real question is why Wubbels and the staff of University Hospital
    haven’t profusely thanked Payne for not shooting her dead. ”

    Because they only shoot black people.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/31/us/georgia-cobb-county-officer-racial-comment-trnd/index.html

  • Ryan Denniston

    This story reminds me, David Clarke is stepping down as sheriff. I bet he’d fit right in with Department of Homeland Security!

    https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/8/31/16236382/david-clarke-resigns

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Courser_Resistance

      I have thoughts, but they are extremely… non-allowed. Jesus Fucking Christ on a roller skate.

  • AJ Milne

    I mostly manage to achieve a certain I figure necessary equilibrium, observing assholes at work in the world. Manage to think past the visceral and natural desire for bloody vengeance to how do we reduce the probabilities of recurrence, etcetera yadda better outcomes all ’round etcetera…

    People especially however who flagrantly abuse the provisional and qualified authority granted them by their community, and directly and physically cause pain and humiliation and fear, I must confess, I find this is… more challenging…

    And I get to thinking I wouldn’t be deeply upset if Lieutenant McChokehold were to be (redacted redacted redacted) from his (redacted redacted) and then repeatedly (redacted redacted) until he was (redacted) with his own (redacted).

    (Redacted very redacted squared.)

    • sarafina

      with votes, of course.

  • Baconzgood

    So the police believe being unconscious is “implied consent”? No wonder there is such a problem with law enforcement investigating rape.

    Fuckers.

    • Jack Had A Permit

      It’s like laws just stop applying when they put on the badge.

    • Oblios_Cap

      If you knock someone out, they can’t say “no”?

      • Jack Had A Permit

        Kill them and they can’t plead ‘not guilty’, so win-win?

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Which is equivalent to saying yes… implicitly

      • Rags

        The roofie defense

    • NastyBossetti

      I was thinking the same thing.

    • Courser_Resistance

      I think in this case, ‘Implied Consent” is a different thing. Colorado is an ‘Implied Consent’ state. What it means is that in exchange for your driver’s license, you are giving the state consent to breath and/or blood testing after an accident, regardless of whether you’re the victim or not. From the article, it appears that Utah dropped the implied consent clause in 2007, so it no longer applied. Additionally, SCOTUS ruled that ‘Implied Consent’ laws ONLY applied to breath tests, not blood test. Basically because taking blood is ‘invasive’ (they have to poke a hole in you to get it) and breath testing is not.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Correct.

      • Paul

        Thanks. I read the case in the link and there was zero mention of implied consent and I was guessing it had to be something like you explained.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          I noticed that too, actually. (i skimmed it).

      • sarafina

        Taking blood can kill you – unlikely, but infection and bleeding out are possible.

    • Maggielle

      I think it is more that if you are behind the wheel of a car, one of the conditions is that you are deemed to have consented to a check for the presence of alcohol or drugs. Which was held to be not a valid condition for law enforcement to assert.

      ETA: or what Courser_Resistance said better.

    • NotDarkYet

      Well, if someone is flat on their back, i.e. assuming the position, they’re consenting–otherwise, they wouldn’t be laying there, right?

      Yup. Fuckers.

  • Jack Had A Permit

    I had to. No particular reason, but this doesn’t seem so off-topic right now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZM1WQKwpl0

  • spangled

    jesus christ, this dude flipped out over absolutely nothing.

    what is he going to do when someone is actually rude to him? or threatens him? he’s a goddamn cop, and it looks like he can’t have a normal conversation without putting someone in handcuffs.

    • Maggielle

      He’ll shoot them.

      • Daniel

        They were no angels, I mean, we can get all upset about it but those people he will shoot probably did something wrong, even if he didn’t know about it, and you know if they’d just behaved with more respect maybe this wouldn’t have happened.

  • John

    And this is why “We The People” don’t want cops to have shiny, new, military-grade hardware and firepower.

    • sarafina

      I don’t want them to have old, dirty, rusty, military-grade hardware the firepower either.

  • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

    that link to the implied consent decision is kinda interesting (although long, even I’m skimming it).

    In teh 2007 decision, the officer in the underlying case didn’t even CONSIDER getting a warrant. The court was not pleased:

    “We are dismayed by the officers’ failure to consider the notion that the extraction of blood from a person’s body might constitute a search requiring a warrant.   In light of the confidence expressed earlier in this opinion in the evolving professionalism of the law enforcement officials who participated in Ms. Rodriguez’s blood draw, we consider the major constitutional blind spot that this incident exposed disturbing.”

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Sure. But does the U.S. military have their own dance troupe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=tKRelLh88YE

    • therblig

      Manchurian Candidate – The Musical

    • Jon Sussex

      Pants-Off Dance-Off and let’s settle this thing.

  • jesterpunk

    Completely OT but kind of funny, I just ordered a few guitar cases and a boss DS-1 guitar pedal. They asked if I wanted insurance on the pedal just in case it broke within the first year. There is a reason just about every professional guitar player uses boss pedals and its not just because of their sound, these pedals are built like tanks and can take a beating and still work decades later.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      But cables and patch chords…

      • jesterpunk

        Not covered by any warranty, they just try and sell the warranty on the pedals themselves.

        • Lance Thrustwell

          But of course. Those things go bad surprisingly often.

        • BrianW

          ABU- Always Be Upselling.

          • jesterpunk

            Yeah true, its just a waste for boss pedals.

    • Ωbjectifier

      Extended warranties are not punk rock!

      • jesterpunk

        Extended warranties are fine for things that will break or are made of plastic, but a pedal designed to take a beating in a solid metal case its just not worth it.

        • Courser_Resistance

          I rarely buy extended warranties. The one time I did, the vacuum broke in the covered period, but someone stole it before I could exchange it! I was in the middle of a move. Who steals a busted vacuum? I do enjoy a bit of joy at the thought of them trying it out and found it wouldn’t even turn on.

        • Ωbjectifier

          The TubeScreamer I bought 25 years ago is still going strong.

          • jesterpunk

            Can you do this with your tube screamer? (You probably can if its the metal one) But anything that can a truck and still work doesnt need a warranty that covers it being dropped.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyMDkyvn5Xk

    • Baconzgood

      You know they are designed to be kicked and stomped on.

      • jesterpunk

        They also run them over with trucks and drop them from high up to test them to make sure they are not going to fall apart.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    This makes me angry… but then, money-grubbing weasel that I am, I almost wish something like this would happen to me. I could use a 150k settlement.

    • Courser_Resistance

      Yep, last day on the job was a week ago. I went camping Mon-Thurs, partly to ease the transition, since I was working at home.

  • TundraGrifter

    “Detective Payne has been temporarily suspended from a program where cops are trained to draw blood samples…”

    With or without a warrant? With our without consent?

    Reads like a premeditated attempt to go around the law.

    • OrdinaryJoe

      Looks to me like Detective Payne was sleeping during the training.

    • NastyBossetti

      Imagine this guy angrily jutting a needle around in someone’s arm, searching for a vein.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        that’s why that whole bit about teaching cops to do blood draws is fucking scary.

        I want a dispassionate third party doing that, smoeone who does it every day, multiple times a day and isn’t all righteously pissed off at my (alleged) crime.

        • NastyBossetti

          Yep!

        • NotDarkYet

          I’ve had experienced nurses who couldn’t find a viable vein in my arms. They kept digging until my arm looked like a pin cushion. One guy actually semi-yelled “stop crying; it can’t hurt that bad!”

          I can’t even imagine a cop like Payne trying to find a vein …

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i have the biggest, most beautiful veins…seriously, I’ve been complimented on them multiple times.

            I’ve had only had one person fuck up. Unsurprisingly, if was for a pre-employment drug test.

            She went in at a weird angle and the damn thing started bleeding around the injection site.

          • NotDarkYet

            I know RNs that share what they call “vein porn” — big bulging veins … and they make fun of my tiny ones that pull vanishing acts as soon as a needle breaks the skin.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            cause i’m fat, they only really bulge RIGHT inside the elbow, so I suspect it looks like a damn target is painted on my skin.

          • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

            They have ultrasound machines now. No one should be making pincushions of anybody these days.

          • NotDarkYet

            No shit? I don’t I’ve ever seen one of those. And I’ve had to endure plenty of vein finding expeditions (I have regular bouts of kidney stones, plus a number of operations designed to fix a “bad” knee) …

          • Rags

            A cop drawing from a person he/she thinks is a criminal and who is inebriated/drugged up/pissed off/scared. What could possibly go wrong?

          • Notreelyhelping

            Can’t hurt that bad? When I was a kid, I had a guy try to scoot the needle over without withdrawing it. I passed out. To this day, I have anxiety issues with blood draws.

          • NotDarkYet

            Same here … the nurses always look at me going “you gonna pass out, honey?”

        • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

          As I said down thread, he strikes me as the kind of guy who’d go fishing with a 16 gauge (fucking big) needle.

        • cmd resistor

          Even with nice people who are trained to do it and have no anger issues, you don’t always get people who can find your vein or avoid messing up your arm. I know one of my recent draws seemed like maybe it was the first time she’d even drawn blood. And I don’t have difficult veins as a rule.

          • sarafina

            I used to donate blood regularly, but I’m such a hard stick they told me I could stop.

      • Pilotshark

        than bust you for having track marks on your arms.

    • Courser_Resistance

      That’s pretty horrifying. Here in CO, they call an ambulance crew with a paramedic who draws it on the spot.

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        Yeah, here too. Some people have really tiny veins, some people who’re diabetic or had chemo, etc. don’t need some halfassed amateur attempting the blood draw.

        • sarafina

          That doesn’t stop some jurisdictions.

    • Baconzgood

      You would think he would need more training on how to draw blood. Just sayin’

    • Maggielle

      It’s torture training.

  • Daniel

    Is there only me who’s grimly curious as to how Fox will cover this, if at all?

    • Jack Had A Permit

      Hahahahaha! They won’t cover it. If they do, it’ll be a short snippet in between their usual rage orgies and even then, they’ll find a way to blame the whole thing on Obama.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Obamacare frames innocent cop?

      • Jack Had A Permit

        Bingo!

        No need for tea leaves with these clowns.

    • Vincent Ricola

      Tonight on Hannity: Liberal activist nurse who appears to have been referenced in multiple Clinton emails refuses police order and violently resists standard police cooperation.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      actually I can, “why wouldn’t they just take the blood…you don’t what drunk drivers getting away with it, do you?”

      (Note, I know the individual was not the drunk driver, but Fox news people are idiots and bungle the facts.)

      • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

        Not so much idiots, as willfully misleading.

    • Baconzgood

      They will first put a “(D)” by her name.

      • writersbloc

        hahaha, that’s rich (but totally accurate).

    • amindofitsown

      “Communist cop-hating nurse gets what’s coming to her for disobeying cop’s justified-’cause-cop arrest. Coming up, HIPAA-patient protection, or regulations gone awry?”

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “Every time cops do something like this, we move up a little.”
    — Used Car Salesmen

    • therblig

      “Congratulations. We can only dream” – Pimps

    • — Sanitation specialist
      —-Dog catcher
      —- Mortician
      —- Porno fluffer

      • therblig

        and 20 spots down, GOP Member of Congress

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        Oh, come on. Those jobs are honorable. Terrible, but honorable.

        • I cleaned bathrooms for 2 years. Washed dishes for 4. I loved it. When I waitressed I dealt with much more shit.

      • SomeBigRedDog

        Fucking dog catchers.

      • Rebel Scum with permit

        It’s “Animal services specialist” thank you very much.

      • cmd resistor

        I had a a friend who was a high school teacher. She was outside with her kid when the garbage truck went by. She made one of those remarks like, better study or that will end up being your job. Of course young kid didn’t think it was a bad thing at all, and she also knew that one of the guys on the truck was a former student who probably made more $$ than she did.

  • mardam422

    What is this “Constitution” you speak of?

  • I feel for this woman entirely, but if that were me, I wouldn’t have cried or panicked, that’s like blood in the waters to these kind of sharks. I would calmly ask the uneducated, improperly trained officer to take his goddamned fucking hands off me unless he wants to talk to his superior who might know the law better than he, and if he DID try to arrest me, I would willingly go along and phone my attorney as soon as I had the chance. Then I’d sue the department. The last time I had a cop go AWOL (Asshole Working Outside the Law) on me, I spent an hour with his lieutenant who was extremely focused on damage control.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      I would get profitably litigious, if possible.

      • Well…..I live a simple life. For me, it’s the principle of the thing. 🗽

    • Maggielle

      I’d have wanted to act calmly, but I can’t guarantee I wouldn’t have lost it like she did. There are some situations where it helps to game out in advance what you would do, and I don’t think this is a thing that she did, or that most people would do.

      I mean, I took a self-defense class one time, and the instructor urged us to imagine a situation and really ask ourselves what we were willing to do. Were we willing to kill our attacker? Literally claw his eyes out with our hands? Run him over if we could get to our cars? Not everyone is willing to do that, but it helps to know yourself so you can consider all sorts of defensive options, and so that you can imagine, in advance, if you’re willing to do something for which you could be prosecuted.

      • In my case, I was pulled over for speeding by a county cop. We got into it after he treated me like I was his abused wife. I was tired after driving cross country with a group of rescued hounds. In fairness, he was probably tired of dealing with assholes. He yelled at me to get out of my truck, and I did. I called him an asshole and he called for backup (state trooper). The state trooper pulled up. I said, “oh good, someone rational” The stupid fuck replied, “I’m going to side with him no matter what” (his boss later that night spent 1/2 hour on the phone with me, apologizing). When they realized I wouldn’t kneel for them (figuratively speaking) they decided to handcuff me (I didn’t resist in the least). That’s when the police sergeant pulled up, got out of his car, didn’t look at either cop, but walked straight up to ME and calmly, humanly asked me (not THEM) , “What’s going on here.” The Zamboni of cops. He told them to take the handcuffs off me, and after I drove off, I called both men’s superiors to complain, and the sergeant to thank him.

        • Maggielle

          That’s some good reacting. And, in the end, some good police work.

          • I’ll never forget that guy. Such a gentle, but powerful demeanor.

        • laineypc

          The Zamboni of cops!

    • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

      I think her cries were more likely due to the forceful chicken wing he was giving her, and fears of more physical abuse.

      • She seemed intimidated from the start, which is why I give her HUGE kudos for doing the right thing in spite of being frightened.

      • Courser_Resistance

        I would have physically complied, as she did, but I too would make a hell of a lot of noise. I’ve always had a big voice and know how to make use of it.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      I’m a wimp I suppose, and a bureaucrat by force of habit. This woman was incredibly brave. I’m not sure I could have done what she did. I would likely made someone from hospital administration show their ass up and have them make the decision.
      I cant believe this vicious bully hasn’t been fired. Then there were the comments about how he was going to treat the hospital in his off duty job.

    • As a (ER?) nurse I’m sure she’s already on edge with her regular duties and is exhausted when Officer Half-Nelson starts berating her

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i was thinking this too – i’m guessing she may have also been thinking about the other 250 things she needed to get done in the next five minutes for the other 10-20? patients there.

        • Adrenaline focuses me like laser. I would let my co-workers take over (any inconvenience would prompt them to assist in pursuing action against the cops).

    • sarafina

      HIS SUPERVISOR TOLD HIM TO ARREST HER. Read the article.

      • What does that have to do with anything other than the supervisor can be held accountable in a civil suit?

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    It can’t could happen here if police keep this up.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3LVgeOTjqg

    • Smells like teen justice.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Awesome.

  • Baconzgood
    • cmd resistor

      Yeah it was almost like they cut out the escalating part and went straight to the “we’re done.”

  • Creepoman

    “Implied consent” has been Bill Cosby’s operating philosophy since the ’70’s.

    • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

      Too soon?

      • WIDTAP

        Not enough pudding.

      • sarafina

        No.

  • Michael Smith

    The cop’s line will be that he was just trying to help a brother officer, and that this nurse was obviously anti-cop and wouldn’t let him.

    Now the problem with this, of course, is that she was in the right. She wasn’t obstructing justice, she was following the law. And arresting her accomplished nothing, it just made him feel powerful in a situation where he wasn’t in charge.

    • Courser_Resistance

      He got to hurt and humiliate another person. For some people, that is their entire reason for getting out of bed in the morning. Fucking bastards.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        That’s why it would be good and loving to gobsmack him with jail time…

        • CripesAmighty

          That’s why 99.9% of cops get out of bed in the morning.

          • Courser_Resistance

            I’m sorry, but I have to disagree. Sure, there are bad cops, but I work with cops in my volunteer work and most of them are decent (not perfect) people who really are about helping others. Denver Sheriffs and PD (one county, one city) have just signed a joint agreement to NOT cooperate with ICE and established an assistance fund for the undocumented.

            So no, not all cops are sadists. In fact, one good friend just became a sworn peace officer. But currently he’s in Austin with the Red Cross coordinating disaster relief. I think he’s going to Corpus Cristy next

          • Maggielle

            Thank you. Also, read Little Bear’s experience below.

          • Courser_Resistance

            Our two biggest police departments around these parts are Denver and Aurora. These cops do 1,000 acts of kindness, big and small, of all kinds, some picked up by media, some not. Off the top of my head, I can recall a Denver cop who bought a kid a plane ticket when something happened to his travel plans. The Children’s Hospital just had a stuffed toy drive so that Denver and Aurora cops and firefighters all have toys to give to traumatized or injured kids.

            Aurora cops, in particular, deserve my high respect for how they conducted themselves all thoughout the Aurora Theater shooting. Those officers had to keep all their trauma and experiences to themselves for at least two long years until the trials played out. To hear their stories emerging just a few months ago, is just agonizing. I’ve yet to see them all because they’re harrowing and deeply emotional. Some officers have not fully emotionally recovered.

            So whenever local stories about bad police behavior emerge (Denver Metro area at least), I refuse to jump to conclusions. Both are very large departments with a LOT of officers. And I remember those who have done so much good. Cops are people, too.

          • FiveAcres

            I read about one Denver policeman who found an indigent person during a cold snap. I don’t know why he didn’t take him to a shelter (perhaps they were full or the person didn’t want to go to one) so the officer gave him cash so he could get a hotel room.

          • Courser_Resistance

            It can sometimes be a difficult line to walk, socially. I KNOW there are bad cops. I’ve had the displeasure of encountering some of them. And I’m white, so yes, I probably do miss a lot of micro-agressions and stuff that POC are sensitive to. Still I live in a majority-minority community and most folks from all walks of life around here have decent relationships with the cops.

            My org frequently supports and helps cops with public events, serving as extra sets of eyes and ears and to help clear the area in the event of dangerous weather or incident. Sure, we’re watching for ‘bad guys’, etc. but the vast majority of the time both us and the cops are working on reuniting lost kids with parents (following strict protocols to make sure the right person ends up with the kid) and making sure everyone is safe and having a enjoying themselves.

    • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

      She needs to sue the ever loving SHIT out of him and his PD.

      And this dickhead is yet more proof the LE applicants need psychological screening.

      • ManchuCandidate

        If we screen out the power hungry shit heads out of the police force then what we will do with 1/2 sized police forces?

        • Nockular cavity

          Not seeing a problem here.

      • mailman27

        Cop needs to be ex-cop toot sweet. See ya at the mall Officer Dickweed.

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    Cop violates Constitutional rights. Trump pardon in 5 … 4 … 3 …

    • SayItWithWookies

      You’re assuming the cop gets charged and convicted, unfortunately.

      • Rags

        not necessary – pardons before charging are OK

        • SayItWithWookies

          Oh, hell.

  • george lastrapes

    Has anybody said ‘pre-emptive pee-residential pardon’ yet? No? Good.

  • Clearly this lady was asking for it by being educated, aware of the law and Constitutional rights, and refusing to genuflect to the authorities as all good Americans do. Probably a liberal commie.

    • Daniel

      I don’t know if you noticed, but she was wearing those scrubs pretty low. And I think that piece of paper she was holding was literally a gang sign.

      • She does look a little dark in that video. It’s a show of restraint and bravery by the officer that he didn’t fear for his life and shoot her.

        • Daniel

          I honestly thought she was a demon. Really.

          A gay demon.

          • Those are the worst kind. Tempting totally heterosexual men with thoughts of big strong virile, well-groomed men with incredible abs and hard bodies…

          • sarafina

            You could have stopped way before this.

        • WIDTAP

          I heard that she had needles near at hand. Clearly a drug pusher.

    • Baconzgood

      Thank God she didn’t have Skittles. They officer could have been hurt.

      • WIDTAP

        Thank God they no longer make the nurse where those hats. That poor officer might have mistaken it for a hoodie and then they would have had a real mess at the nurses station.

    • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

      Don’t forget polite. That really pisses them off.

    • laineypc

      But mainly she was a lady talking to a misogynist who wasn’t about to let her ‘splain him anything, ‘specially not showing everybody in the room how very ignorant he was about his own job.

  • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

    OT:
    Oh what-the-ever-loving-fuck:

    Bellefonte, Pennsylvania (CNN)A state judge in Pennsylvania threw out involuntary manslaughter charges Friday against eight fraternity members and the Beta Theta Pi fraternity in connection with the death this year of Penn State sophomore Timothy Piazza following an initiation ritual involving alcohol.

    All aggravated and simple assault charges stemming from the 2016 rush period also were tossed out by Magisterial District Judge Allen Sinclair of Centre County.

    An attorney for Piazza’s parents said after Friday’s hearing that the remaining charges against 14 fraternity members are serious and could result in jail time, if the defendants are found guilty.

    • Antonin Dvorak

      Does that mean that voluntary manslaughter is still on the table?

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i have no idea – it’s a real piece of shit article.

        It’s listed as breaking, so hopefully they’ll fill in the gaps.

        It *might* be they dropped a bunch of shit charges from guys who were just in the house and had nothing to do with it? I really can’t tell.

        • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

          Yeah, most of what’s left amounts to low-level felonies or misdemeanors. The involuntary manslaughter charges came about as a result of a grand jury investigation and indictment, so that was probably the top count.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            ah, thanks, I haven’t been following that one.

      • NastyBossetti

        No, I think it’s just reckless endangerment and some alcohol-related charges left.

        • cmd resistor

          I think hazing, also, too.

          • sarafina

            Is ‘hazing’ actually called out as being against the law? I don’t know, I’ve never been near East Coast frats and don’t know PA law.

          • cmd resistor

            I think i saw it in an article today. I have no fondness for frats.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Civil suits after that.
      Take every fucking penny they fucking have.
      And sue the goddamned college too.

      • SpideySenser

        I’d say sue the college first, deeper pockets.

        • MynameisBlarney

          SUE ALL THE THINGS!

          • SpideySenser

            Yes! Go for it all, just make sure you go for the cha-ching.

        • Opiwan

          As a PSU alum, I say fuck them all and their brotastic Greek culture, but in this case the University has nothing to do with it. BTP is an off-campus frat. Now all the fuckery that goes on with the few on-campus frats… SUE AWAY!

    • NastyBossetti

      I can’t believe this. The timeline of events of that night are harrowing to read. They may not have meant to, but they killed that kid. They did everything wrong, at every step along the way. And then they tried to cover it up. All felony charges have been dropped. The DA says she’s going to try to have involuntary manslaughter reinstated.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        I’m curious about the judge in that case…from the area? Penn State grad? oh god, former frat boy in the same frat?

        • NastyBossetti

          Nearly everyone here is a Penn State grad, but not this guy. He went to Shippensburg and IUP.

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          That’s what I was wondering. That or how did the prosecutor/investigators fuck up the case?

          • NastyBossetti

            This article quotes some of the arguments made. It’s not really clear what the judge’s reasoning or thought process was. I am very far from a lawyer, so I don’t know how to turn the info in the article into an explanation.

        • bupkus231

          Link: http://judges.pa.law.com/profile/Centre_County_District_Court/Allen_Sinclair/Allen_Sinclair-124.xml

          He went to Shippensburg State and Indiana University of Pennsylvania ( IUP ) – and altho’ he’s been a district judge since 1997, there’s no note of his law degree ( a piece I read had other DAs saying that the judge knows the law better than the CCentre Co. DA who filed the charges after grandjury indictments were handed down ).

          I lived in and around State College for 15 years, from the late 70s to the early 90s. Sat on a couple of juries there, too – and wasn’t too impressed ( altho’ IANAL ).

  • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

    This makes me want to puke.

    • shastakoala

      Too bad the nurse was arrested.

      • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

        😕 (former CCRN)

  • OrdinaryJoe

    WonkJeopardy:

    “Help! Help! Somebody help me! Stop! Stop! I did nothing wrong!”

    The citizens of this country were heard to yell this as they were being hauled off by the police for no reason except they had objected to the conduct of the police.

    • Raan

      What is the Soviet Union, Alex?

      • Oblios_Cap

        What is Nazi Germany?

        • Raan

          Also yes.

    • HorseChestnut

      What is East Germany?

    • MynameisBlarney

      What is East Germany?

    • Daniel

      Is it about a bicycle?

    • Baconzgood

      What is Cambodia?

      • Oblios_Cap

        What is Rhodesia?

        • Raan

          What is the former Republic of Vietnam?

          • kbbaldwin2

            What is Utah?

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Wubbles wobbled but she didn’t back down.

  • Raan

    So. I see we need Tom Hagen in hospitals to defend nurses.

    “This woman is a registered nurse performing her duties in accordance with the law. If you have her removed, you’ll be dragged before a judge to show cause.”

    • mary5920

      The godfather gets protection, but not before Al Pacino gets punched in the face by Sterling Hayden. In this case, the woman had no one to stand up for her because after all, she’s not a crook.

  • Moebym of the Returners

    I bet he’s one of those types who claim to love and defend the Constitution.

    Only not from himself, apparently.

  • WIDTAP

    Harumph!

    That nurse, Alex Shaffer Wubbles, never even medalled in the Olympics:
    https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/sh/alex-shaffer-1.html

    • mary5920

      Always hated particular noun into verb practices, such as “medalled.” I hope that never made it into the dictionary.
      She should get a medal for being calm in the face of the jerk officer and his testosterone.

      • WIDTAP

        Sorry to have verbed you.

      • Rags

        I’ll pencil you in as a grammar nazi…..

        • mary5920

          Sorta. That one may be because the broadcast network Olympic coverage sucks so bad(ly).
          Have to admit some triggers-like the “your” “you’re” misuse but then I’ve found myself slipping up too/to/two.

    • Bitter Scribe

      It’s the same person, no shit?

      • WIDTAP

        Yep. It’s in the Salt Lake Tribune article linked above.

    • The Librarian

      Well, that certainly deserved a chokehold, no?

  • John Iwaniszek

    I don’t understand the fair play effort on the part of the nurse. She should be suing the living shit out of them.

    • Vincent Ricola

      She’s scared of retribution from cop bros. Because we all live in the Training Day movie now.

      “No charges were ultimately brought against Wubbels, who says she’d heard stories of other healthcare workers being bullied by cops…”

      • Ωbjectifier

        You wanna go to jail or you wanna go home?

    • Kooolest G

      when you’re an ER nurse, you deal with the cops all day everyday. she probably doesn’t want that kind of trouble

      • John Iwaniszek

        I don’t buy it. They need her more than she needs them.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    And that’s why police need more military-style weapons, hence the suspension of that Obama-era law. Yeah…

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      To be fair, you can get a good size blood sample if you use a grenade launcher. might be hard to tell who it’s from, though.

  • SomeBigRedDog

    Wait. They train cops to take blood?

    Sure, why not? What could possibly go wrong with that?

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      IKR?

      That’s fucking crazy.

      • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

        It’s situation ripe for fuckery.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      If it makes you feel any better, I’m sure they don’t train them very well.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        “Shoot them and hold a vial underneath the exit wound”

        • mardam422

          When the only tool you have is a gun, everyone looks like a negro.

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            Good gawd that is awful. :D

          • sarafina

            Now I guffawed. Your comment is correct, It is truly awful.

        • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

          Sadly, I just guffawed.

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            Guffawed?

          • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

            laughed loudly and boisterously? when it really should be unimaginable, but is imaginable?

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            Ah I learn English words every day ^_^

          • Rags

            I suppressed a chortle.

          • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

            You are a better human than I.

      • sarafina

        Drawing blood is something that you get better at with practice. I don’t know that cops do this regularly, so it’s always just like the very first time.

    • Paul

      Only from humans. You should be good.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      There’s no way somebody could feel violated by that, amirite? In Texas, they were fishing around in women’s nether parts by the side of the highway. No idea cops were now drawing blood.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        in NeW Mexico there was a semi-recent case where they gave some women like MULTIPLE rectal exams or whatever after they suspected she had drugs up there (even after an x-ray showed she didn’t).

        I believe they got their asses handed to them in court.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          … got THEIR asses handed to them…

    • Daniel

      Well, “take blood” is one of those euphemisms that pad out a C.V., like how literally any internal emails you sent suddenly become “in charge of communications” or similar. “Mopping blood off the cell/interrogation room floor” doesn’t sound as professional.

    • Jon Sussex

      Part of baton training.

    • sarafina

      For testing suspected drunk drivers, when the clinic is too far away or something.

  • Baconzgood

    Some one is going to get a job with them Trump administration.

    • george lastrapes

      Under David Clarke of DHS? As a flea bottom?

    • MamaBrown

      Has Trump called to congratulate him yet?

      • sarafina

        Watch for the tweet.

  • The Librarian

    That officer should be kicked off the force. Nurse Wubbels was not belligerent nor threatening, unlike Officer Painintheass. She was just doing her job. Since being polite is now a crime, I’m at a loss for the correct behavioral response to this.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      “Doing your job” and “protecting your patients legal rights” a crime also.

      • The Librarian

        Right?! I also question whether Officer Asshat would have done that to a male nurse. Methinks not so much.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Jail time for assault… and loss of police certification

      • The Librarian

        How about impersonating an officer, also too? He obviously failed the “To protect and serve” lesson at the academy.

        • Permit-holder Ron

          That course is now called ‘To punish and enslave.’

    • cmd resistor

      Amazing how fast he went from being politely told NO to screaming “we’re done” and grabbing her. I made myself watch it. I’m not sure it was a good idea.

  • george lastrapes

    Does Officer Payne have bad personal hygiene, and is that what makes him a fleabottomist?

    • WIDTAP

      More likely his personal friendship with Davos Seaworth.

      • Rebel Scum with permit

        The Onion Knight would not associate with a thug and bully of this type. Mr. cop would sooner or later end up in a bowl of brown (I’m too much of a GOT geek I guess)

        • WIDTAP

          The Onion Knight would shake his purse at the cop and say ‘Is 5 Gold Dragons still the going rate?”

          Consider yourself out-geeked, Rebel!

  • Raan

    Also, I don’t think we’ve mentioned the solution that doesn’t involve arresting an innocent nurse (assuming Officer Fuckwit was trying to protect a fellow officer from a frivolous suit): call the family and have them ask that a toxscreen be done.

    • WIDTAP

      Or just have the supervisor get an electronic warrant from a judge. Fast and simple, if you have ay justification whatsoever for a blood pull.

      • JCfromNC

        I haven’t watched the video, but another article I read on this said that at one point, an officer says, “So get a warrant” to which Officer Fuckwit replies, “We don’t have PC [copspeak for probable cause].” So that’s why he didn’t.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          That’s what I had guessed… Hence the strong-arm…

      • Persistent Tennessee Rain

        There was no probable cause to get a warrant. This cop was trying to cover the ass of the Utah police department for their involvement in a high speed chase.

  • BreakingDeadMen

    If I was the nurse, I would be looking at new homes, new cars, new boats and fine art. All the best things punitive damages can buy.

  • cheetojeebus

    Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. Etc etc etc….

    • Raan

      Damn it.

      Now I really want a “Bad Mother Fucker” wallet.

    • Opiwan

      Waiting for the nurse to be able to strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger part… With Votes (TM)

  • Bitter Scribe

    I cannot watch that video. My blood pressure is high enough already.

    I just try to think of the positive interactions I have mostly personally had with cops to try to keep my head from exploding when I hear about shit like this.

  • Parakeetist

    Sweet Stinky O’Grady! What the hell is this shit?

    • Permit-holder Ron

      Just one more step down the road from ‘police department’ to Geheime Staatspolizei.

  • Beanz&Berryz

    Nurse Wubbels skied slalom, downhill and GS, finishing 9 in the combined at 22 yrs old… Freaking Olympic downhill… Some fat belligerent cop isn’t going to scare her… She’s a badass..

  • Scooby

    I thought the Magic underwear protected you from injury.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Maybe just moral injury… being 3 steps below granny panties on the Sexy Scale helps in that regard…

  • Nockular cavity

    I was recently in a western-European country that shall go unnamed, and had a friend stopped by the cops for yelling on the street (he just yelled back at us, it was broad daylight and, other than that, we hadn’t been rowdy or anything). His girlfriend, a native of said country, lit into them immediately, yelling (in their language) something like “Fuck off! Go look for some real crimes! Fucking assholes!” And they backed off.

    Ladies and gentlemen, that is how you can deal with cops that are being obnoxious, if you live in a free country. If we’re going to call ourselves free, we need to be able to do the same.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      the problem is they will fucking arrest, tase, shoot you for that shit and get away with it.

      • Nockular cavity

        That’s the point. She knew that bullshit wasn’t going to happen.

        • H0mer0

          I liked how she got away with yelling at them which is what her boyfriend had gotten stopped for.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      without getting shot…

    • Machnethylsteinerbincolabird

      Instead we live in a country where we are expected to train ourselves to treat every encounter with a policeman as if it were an encounter with a wild animal.

      • Jim Johnson

        An armed, sadistic, racial profiling wild animal.

        • kbbaldwin2

          And judging by our local constabulary, a not terribly bright animal to boot.

      • bookish

        That’s exactly how I treat it, and I am not disappoint.

  • Walter Wellstone

    Now tell me why this asshole’s uniform should protect him from a can of whoop-ass? If he weren’t a cop and he did this to a woman it would be expected that he would end up peeing himself fully unconscious on the floor but, in this case, just because he’s a cop, he deserves respect and we should exercise restraint?

    • anon_the_great

      Color of Law.

    • sarafina

      You feel free to show him respect.

      I’ll refrain.

  • Lily412

    “‘implied consent’ from the unconscious victim”

    Yeeeaaahh, that’s something a rapist says. Probably not the kind of person you want to verbally emulate.

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    Well just some small nice time then. As told I will start next month at my new job and today I spoke one of my ex colleagues and I just ran into another one. Turns out that we all have new and better jobs, the company we left is about to file for chapter 11 and we learned that in total (including other colleagues that got fired before us) we took about a million euro’s in severance pay because their lawyers suck.

    I am sort of doing the heineken dance. (floor after 10 more)

    • Teecha

      Hurrah! Long may your luck continue!

  • MamaBrown

    Well of course he didn’t shoot her. I mean, its not like she’s black or anything.

  • anon_the_great

    This Pig Detective Payne needs to be punished to the full extent of the Law and them be sued into poverty for the rest of his miserable life. Or worse. Like deportation to Belarus.

    • David Hollenshead

      A felony conviction would be sufficient…….

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    Slightly OT. It’s a neat trick to appall Germans with your fascism and authoritarianism:

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/trump-ally-joe-arpaio-so-evil-to-the-bone-german-viewers-thought-documentary-was-a-hoax-filmmaker/

    • Beanz&Berryz

      We’ve already had the German Chancellor have to explain to the fucking President that Nazis are bad…

      I hate those fuckers…

      • sarafina

        But I LOVE that picture!!!!!

    • Robbertjan Brandenburg

      Not just Germans. Every Euopean country that experienced Nazism is appalled. Trust me, we can learn you a lesson.

  • Machnethylsteinerbincolabird

    Sue the fucker. Sue his tiny balls off.

    • Wee Mousie

      Sue his dick off, also, too.

      • ahughes798

        And the police force, and the city.

      • Grumpy Twat

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        Or saw it off

  • Opalescent Riddles

    All I can say is Payne had better be able to run assist on any medical procedure he has done, because no nurse is going to do it. And he’s colonoscopy age.

    Actually, on second thought, nurses would help a person in need anyway, because they’re not spiteful fucks, unlike Payne.

    • Grumpy Twat

      I work in a colonoscopy dept. Just because the nurses wouldn’t refuse to help him doesn’t mean they would make it fun.

      Mrs Grumpy is a v experienced ward sister. English police have tried it on with her- ringing up to ask for blood-sample results, etc. They got nowhere.

  • Debbie the Unpaid Protester

    I can’t watch this. My mom was a nurse (she let her license lapse for the first time last year, when she turned 80).
    I work in a College of Nursing, so all the students are Nurses or Nurses-in-training, and all of the faculty are either practicing Nurses, or were at one point.
    To think of ANY of them being treated like that for FUCKING DOING THEIR JOBS makes me shouty and in need of some outdoor activity. to that end, I think I’ll go out & walk in the sun for awhile.

    • Inca

      I feel this needs more attention: many times the excuse for police abuse is ‘they are doing their job as an important community service’.

      Well. You know who’s also doing their job, in difficult circumstances, saving lives? Nurses!

    • Gorillionaire

      My Mum just retired from nursing this summer, at the age of 76. She is already bored and wonders if she might do some kind of private duty gig to keep busy. They are a special breed.

      • Persistent Demme

        Indeed.
        Drama-daughter’s college room mate is a nurse.
        She is one of the kindest and most empathetic people I have ever met.

      • shoeflyin

        My (ex) mom-in-law was a nurse that worked into her 70s and I think still volunteers occasionally. Better, in her 50s got a master’s degree and became a planned parenthood administrator, did that for about 20 yrs.

    • johnnysandiego

      I took a women’s health course in the nursing department to fill out my electives, changed my mind to actually learn about women’s lives

    • My mother let her nursing license expire at age 70 because she was too busy taking care of my stepdad during his final illness to take the continuing education courses or take the contracts that were on offer. She doesn’t really miss it, but I suspect that she would have reacted in much the same way as Ms. Wubbels. She took patient privacy and her job as advocate for the patient’s care seriously, to the point where she got illegally fired by one hospital for filing a patient-dumping complaint with state regulators after coming across a memo saying that it was cheaper to pay off the lawsuits for indigent patients who died in transit to the public hospital than to provide sufficient care to stabilize them prior to transfer.

      • ColumbusLib

        Your mother is a hero!

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    If you’re looking for an attorney, Det. Payne:

    https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/903684701671440385

    • David Hollenshead

      The poor crying Nazi will be convicted of a Felony……..

      • sarafina

        I read earlier today he doesn’t like being called “the crying Nazi”, to which I say, too bad.

        • kbbaldwin2

          Of course he doesn’t. It is rude. It is either “Mr. Crying Nazi”, or “The Crying Nazi”. Lower case is disrespectable. .,

          • sarafina

            Like I care …

  • whitroth

    As our late, great President was wont to say, well, fuck a duck. I’ve become a connoisseur of phlebotomists, and I would *not* trust someone like that to fucking draw blood from me. Hell, half the people who do it for a living shouldn’t….

  • brucej

    The real question is why Wubbels and the staff of University Hospital haven’t profusely thanked Payne for not shooting her dead.

    Because she’s white, duuuh. They only shoot black people.

    • Rickyphoo

      You beat me to it.

      Maybe she wouldn’t have been so upset if he’d only taken the time to explain that fact to her.

  • Jon Sussex

    I love these “Spot the Trump Voter in this Video” challenges!

    • David Hollenshead

      A disturbing number of LEO’s think that Secretary Clinton was involved in over 40 murders………

      • insolenttomato

        Yup. My brother-in-law is a retired LEO. He regularly quotes Alex Jones.

  • toughsister

    Has the asshole been fired?

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      um, they get away with actual murder. So I’m gonna guess “no”

      • David Hollenshead

        Not always…..

        • Dutchman

          Close enough that “always” is only the slightest hyperbole.

      • Sakonyachen

        Actual murder has the advantage of only one person’s testimony. I get the feeling the body cam that recorded this may have been left on for a reason. Especially in this case where it can be backed up with statute that she was refusing to circumvent the constitution per his request. But mostly, it’s a white lady. There could be justice since she’s white. The lady part could be an issue though. She was excessively authoritative for a dame after all!

        • kbbaldwin2

          Pushy, in fact.

        • Cops have murdered people with body cam footage showing the murder and with 3rd party witnesses showing the murder, and gotten off scot free or with a slap on the hand. Don’t think that video footage makes any difference. “Jury nullification” is a thing that happens in these cases — prosecutors and defense lawyers conspire to make sure that any jury seated to try a cop is so skewed pro-cop that the cop could have been standing in the middle of 5th Avenue literally shooting random people, and the jury would find him “not guilty” because they don’t want to send a cop to jail, regardless of what crime the cop committed.

          • Sakonyachen

            Those people they select for the jury are becoming fewer. I know it’s a slow process but that is the point of sharing this kind of information. It’s not easy since the type of people that stay informed also tend to be working too much to be able to be on a jury. It’s not like you can tell your boss that it’s important to you that you be on a jury for a specific trial and expect them to hire a temp.

    • VirginiaWackelpudding

      Promoted.

    • David Hollenshead

      I suspect that he will face internal affairs and possibly be demoted or fired, but only after due process………

  • 451 Byrnes

    She is not dead because she is not black. Duh.

    • puredog

      There are only trace blahs in Utah.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    So they’re coming for the white ladies now. You mad enough yet?

  • Michael R
  • notaten

    I would like to see this cop try to bully my nephew the nurse, who is 6’4″ and 320 lbs, into doing something against the rules like this. I don’t think it would end well for the detective.

    • David Hollenshead

      I have a friend who is a Nurse at the VA who can bench press 300 lb..

  • Granny Sprinkles

    Granny’s theory is that super cop there was actually hoping that the blood test they wanted in order to protect the victim would actually show one intoxicant or another present in case the victim tried to sue UHP.

  • JohnBull

    I hope his voice mail is as interesting as this thread.

    • David Hollenshead

      And I hope he loses his job, gun rights for committing a felony, and enjoys his future as a security guard…..

  • David Hollenshead

    Wow this is disturbing. Unfortunately I’ve kinda been there and done that:
    I was taken to the private hospital in a coma, after almost being killed by a drunk driver. Said private hospital took two blood samples from each of us, and gave them to the California Highway Patrol.
    The motivation was apparently to blame the accident on us, since the member of the 1% could not have caused the accident by running a stop sign at 49 mph in his Mercedes after drinking 2 litters of wine, and claiming that we were “head Deads”.
    The Officer on the scene apparently had received a cash five figure bribe, something I learned years later, from one of his former coworkers.
    The kind people of said private hospital turfed me with a broken back, after telling me how I killed my girlfriend and the police were coming to arrest me.
    Which was a unique and disturbing way to get rid of a patient who they thought was uninsured.
    They also tried to bill my insurance for the medical treatment of a Deadhead who killed his girlfriend, driving while trashed, like the man who broke my back…..

    • motocat

      I’m so sorry.

    • Lord Jim

      “…and justice for all.” Right.

    • Zyxomma

      Wow, David, that’s horrific. So sorry you had that experience. Hugs.

  • Jon Sussex

    I wonder if he’s single?

    • george lastrapes

      Probably single; but unfortunately, hardly unique.

  • Ricky Gay

    Ignorance of the law is no excuse – Should certainly apply to Officer Friendly here. Book em Danno.

    • sarafina

      AND his supervisor. Maybe the prosecutor’s office should do a major refresher course on how laws have changed in the past 7 years.

  • a_pink_poodle

    Well why didn’t she just comply?? If she had just obeyed the officers orders and ignored the Constitution, she wouldn’t be in this mess!

    • David Hollenshead

      And she could have lost her license for complying….

      • george lastrapes

        Screaming roidrage maniac with a gun? Compliance would have been understandable; but her resistance was admirable, heroic, praiseworthy.

        • Hospitals and medical boards take HIPAA compliance seriously. If you breach patient privacy under anything less than torture, you’re in serious deep doo doo.

    • Zombishroom

      And wouldn’t it be inadmissible evidence obtained illegally anyway? WTF? I bet video will surface of this jagoff planting evidence.

    • sarafina

      She and/or the hospital could be sued over unnecessary treatment, and if the pt was on Medicare, really bad things could happen.

      • george lastrapes

        I bleeve pink_poodle was being ironic.

    • Just in case someone takes your satire seriously, HIPAA, the federal law protecting patient privacy, means she would be breaking the law to even tell this cop what room the patient is in. Nevermind allowing him to draw blood from the patient, under HIPAA the hospital can’t share *anything* with the cops, not even what room the patient is in, unless the cops come through with the right paperwork or they get permission from the patient or, if the patient is incapable, the patient’s next of ken.

  • Notreelyhelping

    It’s all chilling, but that moment when the administrator tells him he making a serious mistake seems to flip the cop out. It’s clear to everyone trying to deal with the issue that the cop’s in the wrong. That’s the moment when, as professional, he should have backed down, but to do would have likely bruised his ego. Instead, he goes nuts. If he can’t admit he’s in the wrong now and then–and all of are in the wrong now and then–he poses a danger to the public and should not be an officer.

    I don’t suppose anybody asked the cop if he would allow them to draw a sample of his blood; he appears unstable and a threat to the public. Drugs could be involved. I have a feeling he would decline.

    • H0mer0

      good point! Could have “roid rage.”

    • Sunhead

      When a guard dog goes bad and attacks what it is supposed to protect the correct action is to put it down.

  • AngryNotSoOldHippy .

    If you think that police are “the good guys,” you’re a fucking Republican. There are no “good cops,” that’s bullshit, they are all far right wing violent psychotics, every one of them.

  • Jonny On Maui

    Oh Good! Thanks for pumping up my rage level Dok.

    • Dutchman

      I’ve been on this story since early today. My stabbiness knows few limits at this point. Have already sent messages to SLC mayor and SLC police chief Brown saying this dude should be fired and his ambulance driver papers revoked.

      • sarafina

        It’s his second job – if he gets fired from the cops he’ll need that job. Of course, once people learn who he works for, they may boycott that company.

        • Dutchman

          By using a revenge motive to determine patient transport decisions he would be violating several medical ethics rules and patient safety protocols. He’s clearly not someone that can be trusted to make patient care decisions….or hell, pretty much any decisions.

          In many communities you cannot boycott medical transport companies as there are contractually designed monopolies.

          As for concerns about this guy needing a job, my first choice for him would be homeless street dweller.

  • meanlawyermom

    Fuck.

  • LeighBowery’sLuxuryComedy

    On the shooting her dead part – she’s clearly white in the video, so nothing to worry about on that particular (storm)front.

    • Cat Cafe of the Subpoenas

      Came here to say the exact same thing.

  • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

    I guess if cops can get revenge, then it’s perfectly fair for the hospital to act as “professional” as Officer Scumbag, and promise to do shit to get even with his family, at some later date.

    “When his kids come in for flu shots, Imma give them rabies LOL!”

    Right? This is how the world that Officer Creepo wants us to live in operates?

  • Robert Moore

    In the United States of America, in the early 21st century, Ms. Wubbels would have found several highly competent lawyers waiting at the jail to bail her out and start major law suits. But, as we are living in 1930s Germany, she will probably spend the rest of her life in a concentration camp.

    OK! So I am practicing a bit of hyperbole. OR, am I?

    • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith

      Sounds to me like she didn’t want an ambulance chaser, and went with a real lawyer. I applaud her decision.

      • MoreHairyThanJesus

        No doubt she’s afraid of retaliation. You know how pigs are,

        • H0mer0

          As a lady doc, I know this much : DO NOT PISS OFF THE NURSES!

          • kbbaldwin2

            As an occasional patient,and the son of a nurse, I heartily agree, They can and will get even.

          • H0mer0

            I used to think they hated me until the third year of residency when they invited me to their ward Thanksgiving party (for the nurses on duty on Thanksgiving.) I also worked with NPs when I was active duty and private practice job, and to this day, I far prefer teaching NP students to med students cuz the latter always have to prove how SMRT they are while nurses are better team players (and probably why they also tend to have stronger marriages than docs.)

      • sarafina

        Wouldn’t the hospital lawyers be representing her? It was on hospital property, concerning hospital policy, and she is a hospital employee (probably, it didn’t say this was her second job)??????

  • MoreHairyThanJesus

    Why can’t any of these fucking pigs just apologize? Just fucking once I’d like to see that fucking happen. This pig and his swine supervisor flat out fucked up. An apology would make them look too human, I guess, and embarrass the other pigs, so they refuse to do it.

    Then they oink, oink, oink and cry big fat pig tears over being called pigs. What do they expect?

    • TimJ

      It is well known that when doctors make a mistake and apologize the rate of malpractice suits drops enormously. Neither doctors nor cops seem to have learned this lesson.

      • H0mer0

        #NotAllDocs (sn)

    • Calli Arcale

      Because then they’d have to admit they were in the wrong.

  • Vel Venturi

    *waits patiently for outcry from libertarians and Teabaggers who used to scream and rage about ‘jack-booted police’ coming for law-abiding citizens*

    • Lord Jim

      Unless you’re on an oxygen-free diet, don’t hold your breath.

    • Manders

      No, turns out somehow this is the problem of having “more government.” See above.

  • wagist

    Lol, aren’t you liberals the ones who constantly want *more government*?

    • Manders

      No asshole. We want good government.

      • wagist

        What country has a “good government,” as you describe?

        • Some better than others but zomg none are perfect so we should stop trying!!!(1)!!!!

        • sweet freedom

          We did until knuckle dragging humps like you popped out of your bunkers.

    • TimJ

      Lol, you’re cool with this troll? Stay in your basement please.

    • Douglas White

      ROFL, shortchanged a bit in the brains department, huh?

      Let me explain it S-L-O-W, so even you can understand.

      MORE Government would include a taxpayer funded citizen board to oversee policing in their neighborhood, and to recommend firing of cops when they become right-wing violent asshats…. that would in fact be ‘more’ government dimwit.

      In this case having NO OVERSIGHT of any significant substance on police is LESS government. It is literally stunning that you are too stupid to have figured that out….

    • doktorzoom

      That’s one clever point, there. No idea what it’s supposed to mean… apart from the false premise, how the hell is an out of control cop supposed to represent “more government”? You aren’t even using stereotypes right, you moron. Bye!

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

  • Lord Jim

    Cop didn’t get what he wanted, cop retaliated. Why do we as a society permit ourselves to be oppressed by people we hire and commission to WORK FOR US?

    • wagist

      Because you didn’t hire them, they work for the government, not a private company.

      • Cat Cafe of the Subpoenas

        See, here in America, our system has the principle that WE THE PEOPLE are the government, since we pay them with our taxpayer dollars, and we hire them by electing them with our votes. I know that in Russia it works differently, and you guys are really trying to make that happen here, too, and good job so far, really, but at the end of the day, we actually do prefer our own governance system.

      • Umm. No. We hired him. We pay his salary. It is up to the people to dictate the sort of police they will allow, via vote or protest or litigation. Try to keep up, Ivan, we do not live in a police state yet

        • wagist

          You pay taxes into an system where there is very little accountability, then those taxes are used for…. whatever politicians and lobbyists feel like. Government in a nutshell.

      • Lord Jim

        The govt, which is constituted by our elected representatives, hired them on our behalf.

        We need government that works better. If you discovered some employees at a restaurant mistreating customers, would you call for a smaller restaurant?

        • wagist

          “The govt, which is constituted by our elected representatives, hired them on our behalf.”

          ^ That’s the big lie of government and it’s amazing to me that anyone still believes it.

          Restaurants are part of a free market, so thankfully there is competition. Otherwise that industry would be just as bad.

          • Lord Jim

            Except people get some choice as to who gets in govt. Businesses don’t let customers elect it’s staff, and businesses that retain asshole staff do not always get their economic comeuppance. See, Verizon. Comcast, ATT, WalMart, etc, etc.

      • Persistent Tennessee Rain

        Bullshit.

      • Bullshit. Government is elected by *US*. It isn’t imposed on us by some alien invaders or some shit like that. We have cops that act like two-bit thugs because we *want* cops that act like two-bit thugs — as long as they do so towards *those* people. You know, THOSE people. Who don’t look like us, or talk like us, or have white skin like us? THOSE people.

        Duh.

        This cop’s mistake is that he’s acting the shithead towards someone whi *isn’t* one of “those” people, which is why it’s getting traction. Believe me, if he’d illegally laid hands on some person of darker hue, this story would be getting zero traction, nada, because that’s what the majority in this democracy *want* to have happen.

  • gene108

    The cops chasing the guy in the pickup may have acted rashly in conducting the chase. If the unconscious guy was on drugs, then the it would help exonerate any poor judgement by the cops in pursuit that may have caused the accident.

    • Cat Cafe of the Subpoenas

      Exactly.

  • A Bashful Nobody

    Oddly, I witnessed a very similar situation at a hospital about 25 years ago. I had been called to the ER to attend a patient and was finishing up when I heard an argument going on at the nurses’ station. A police officer was in the face of the nursing supervisor who was refusing to let him get a sample from a patient. I don’t recall the exact law in question but I do remember that what he was asking for was clearly illegal as well as being against hospital policy. Luckily the officer limited his objection to screaming and stomping around like an asshole. The nursing supervisor (bless her heart) stood her ground and the officer’s partner helped to defuse the situation. About that time I started to think that maybe the cops weren’t really my friends. Weird.

    • Courser_Resistance

      A good friend of mine just went through the state cop academy to become a Colorado Mounted Ranger. Basically, the Colorado version of Texas Rangers with a similar history, if not as well known. They’re sworn peace officers but ‘force multipliers’ for police agencies for public and special events. Basically any police department can request their support.

      He’s not an power-mad, super-masculine white guy. He’s a former EMT and IT guy looking to do more public service. He’s currently deployed by the Red Cross in Corpus Christi coordinating their disaster relief. He’s exactly the kind of person you’d WANT a cop to be.

      • A Bashful Nobody

        Thanks for reminding me of this. I hope your friend does well and is safe! After my initial post, I went back and watched the entire 19 minute video. If you haven’t you should. It demonstrates that these particular officers are totally ignorant of current law and recent supreme court decisions regarding implied consent. To me that was more disturbing than the initial assault.

        • Courser_Resistance

          That was something I watched right off. That asshole cop was off his rocker right from the start. The nurse is a Coloradan (yay!) and responded exactly the same way I would have. She was fairly meek in saying basically, ‘Um, no, see here’s your department’s agreement with the hospital’. She wasn’t nearly as assertive as I’ve seen head nurses be in the past. Man, I’ve seen some head nurses dress down residents! She would have been well within her rights, but she was insistent but mild in all of her reactions.

          It was really hard to watch and it seems like no one was willing to step up to defend her. But everyone did exactly the right thing. You DO NOT WANT a melee in the ER. Make sure no one gets hurt and let the video tell the tale. Clearly, the cop’s actions were totally indefensible. Not only was he legally in the wrong, he made it worse by assaulting a nurse. The list of possible charges is as long as my arm. In fact, I think that interfering with a medical professional in the course of their duties may be a separate charge all by itself

          • A Bashful Nobody

            According to my reading,it’s a felony to assault a health care professional in Utah. Sure looked like assault to me.

          • It’s only felony assault if the assault causes injury to the health care professional. As far as I know, this nurse wasn’t injured. So nope, “merely” misdemeanor assault.

          • A Bashful Nobody

            Ok,thanks for the clarification.

          • Mildred Broxon

            I wish he’d run into the supervisor where I used to work as a nurse. She would have paralyzed him with one look. She had The Power.

  • TimJ

    The worst part is that the fat fucking hospital security officers didn’t do a damn thing while one of their colleagues was assaulted. They all just stood there like good sheep while a rogue cop assaulted a nurse who was doing her job.

    • wagist

      Yes, obviously $12 / hour security guards should take it upon themselves to “fight the power.”

      • TimJ

        Troll.

        • But not wrong. Security guard is not a cop’s colleague. And likely makes about 12 to 15 per. May have benefits if full time.

          • Mormos

            yeah, if the rent-a-cops had tried to stop him, they likely would have been arrested too. Of course, that may be what we need at this point.

            The only thing that really matters for changing the system is can you stand up and be counted as a body in a crowd?

  • mailman27

    These fucking guys. These Fucking Guys.

  • Cat Cafe of the Subpoenas

    What really stands out for me–and I’m sure others have already posted this–is what this is, at the core, is a nasty, bullying, abusive man, just pissed as hell that some woman is getting in his way, some, some NURSE like the ones he sees in his porn videos, who the fuck is SHE, so he explodes and essentially assaults her, even though she’s completely right and he’s completely wrong and is trying to force her to bend to his will in doing something wrong. It is classic misogynistic abuse, and horrifying to see in a police officer who’s supposed to “serve and protect.” I guess that’s only if you’re a white man.

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      Yes!! My first thought after reading this was that he probably has a history of domestic abuse.

      • Cat Cafe of the Subpoenas

        It looks just like that. Horrible.

  • roberteye

    Oh if she were browner, the blue steel would’ve come out.

    • I am wondering if all this was due to what shade of brown the Vic is

      • sarafina

        ‘shade of blue’

        fify

        • I am thinking they did not know the truck driver was a reserve cop at the time of the incident. Otherwise they would not be so keen on his blood

  • Big Puppy Resists

    Grrrrrrrr . . .

  • La forza del resistino

    fuck his pension too. donate it to a pet shelter.

  • Iam Reading

    Now that cops have abused their power with a white lady, can this issue get some real attention?

    • sarafina

      Yeah, it took killing white Heather Heyer to get some of those dumbass traitor statues moved/toppled.

    • Carole

      That’s rather the point, isn’t it? The right has no respect for women, either.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Qualifying to be a cop should require almost like college level cop classes.

  • sarafina

    Well, as the Georgia cop said ON CAMERA, “We only shoot black people.”

  • Blender_415

    So sorry, after watching that I had to jump off to Youtube and watch a couple NWA videos. Now I feel a bit better… but not much.

    • Anita Ledford

      I did the same thing! LOL! But i watched Modest Mouse “Float On”.

  • sodiedog

    I live in Salt Lake City. Payne is corrupt. The nurse is right. The officer is ignorant.

    • Courser_Resistance

      He really needs to be shitcanned. That behavior is inexcusable. There’s simply no excuse to treat a medical provider that way. He had many other avenues he could pursue to get his blood sample.

      • sarafina

        But should he even have gotten one? If the patient was admitted, lots of blood tests will be done, including tox to make sure there won’t be bad reactions to other meds that may be ordered. Nasty cop could have had the prosecutor pull the records.

  • kbbaldwin2

    I just logged on to the SLC Police site and filed a complaint, suggesting the Payne would benefit from an immediate retirement.

  • Spurning Beer

    Well, my respect for law enforcement just got a fucking boost.

    • She’s a much better human being than I am. I’d be wanting the ratbastard’s head on an effing platter.

  • glennisw

    so this motherfucker goes apeshit on her because of what some other person says on the phone she’s holding? What a fucking asshole. In addition to all the other reasons he’s a fucking asshole.

  • Imagine what would have happened if Wubbels were not white.

    • BIJ0U

      Word, but – BUT – if her plight draws attention to LE abuse, everybody benefits.

  • glennisw

    I was just in a local bar and the video was on TV but it wasn’t very audible. And some dickhead sitting down the bar from me said something like, “Well, when the police place you under arrest, you should cooperate.” Like, right.

    OF course, now seeing the video clearly, it’s quite obvious that the cop 1) didn’t tell her she was under arrest, he just fucking lunged at her, and 2) the cop escalated the situation because 3) he was pissed off at what a third party said on the speakerphone and he took it out on the nurse who was, as her supervisor said, “just the messenger.”

    I hope they throw the fucking book at him. And I hope the dickhead who was sitting down the bar from me this evening gets pulled over and learns a lesson.

    • I agree you should cooperate fully. Then get the best goddamned attorney you can afford. You’ll get your money back. My guess is she’ll sue. And she should.

    • justjoseph

      I can help you here. It wil be a looong trial, after which he will be acquitted of all charges. He will then resign and take a better job with another department.

      • Husband Of Mrs God

        Sad but true.

  • RobespierreHoo

    In fairness to the officer, it should be noted that there are not a lot of black people in SLC to “fear for one’s life” about, so you take what you can get. What a dick.

  • IdiokraticCulturalMarxist
    • BIJ0U

      Note to all cartoonists – please note that Donald’s neck looks like an old, withered vagina. Seriously.

  • “Why are you blaming the messenger?” the voice on the phone asks.
    “Because she is the one saying no,” is his chilling answer. If you see this guy out socially, leave immediately, and don’t make eye contact.

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    Here’s the thing. Nurses are a close-knit community, and they have one hell of a grapevine. Word will get around about this guy. If this police officer is ever hospitalized, he’ll get the care he needs. But darned if his vein turns out to be hard to find when a nurse draws blood for testing, and it takes multiple pokes to do the business.

    Moral of the story: don’t fuck with nurses.

    • Jesse

      “Huh, it looks like SOMEHOW your salene drip got replaced with estrogen. Sorry! Must’ve been somebody who doesn’t know their job very well. But don’t worry, plenty of officers have breasts.”

      • “And some of them aren’t even women!”

      • amrak63

        You’re evil.

        I like that.

  • Mike Rhodes

    Just another limp-dick chicken-shit with a badge.

  • Guest Liberal

    A swift kick in the balls to Defective Payne, please.

  • RangerJay

    I’ve tried for over 40 years to like cops. It has never worked. I’ve been ripped off, lost several good guitars through burglary, and not once has a cop been helpful. Yet, I’ve gotten harassed for no good reason, gotten tickets for speeding up too quickly when leaving towns where I drove the speed limit, and generally looked at way too closely for riding a fucking motorcycle.

    Granted, I have a problem with authority figures. However, I feel quite justified. For every good cop out there, there are 99 assholes.

  • justjoseph

    Utah…the perfect ultra-right wing society to act as a petri dish for growing widespread ignorance of the law and constitution ( the real one, not the imagined one) and unbridled dickheadedness. Proud to not live there.

    • tkingt

      That explains why Orrin Hatch is a 14 carat asshole.

  • Calli Arcale

    “Detective Payne said in his report that he wanted the blood draw to protect the patient, not to gather evidence of wrongdoing, so our completely amateur legal analysis is that the detective wanted to be absolutely sure a Brother Officer would have a clean toxicology test, just in case the idiot who crashed into Gray’s semi — or his family — sued.”

    I’ve got another theory. Payne had no idea this was a fellow cop, and was just worried about him dying and his family suing for the police pursuit resulting in the death of an innocent bystander, and so went fishing for anything that might look exculpatory.

    • BIJ0U

      Bingo

    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      You win.

  • Serai 1

    2017 style? Oh dear. Do you really believe this is a new thing?

  • Riley Whodat Venable

    Quick word of advice. Don’t argue with Nurses, or anyone handling your food.

  • eastcoastlib

    Fuck the police.

  • BIJ0U

    “Detective Payne said in his report that he wanted the blood draw to protect the patient, not to gather evidence of wrongdoing” meaning this dumbfuck also doesn’t understand jack about presumption of innocence. Oh, please get him fired for this. Please.

    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      I think he wanted the blood drawn because if the victim was intoxicated, it would be used against him if he tried to sue the police department for their involvement in a high speed chase. They’ve got some exposure here.

      • BIJ0U

        That sounds highly plausible, but of course it doesn’t make any difference what his motive was since he didn’t have legal authority to obtain the specimen. It would have been thrown out of any court proceeding. But if he DID obtain the sample after arresting the nurse, the patient could have a tort.

      • Moar Wordz

        DING DING DING

        We have a winner !

  • AmusedAmused

    I see Officer Payne didn’t even bang the nurse’s head as he was putting her into the cruiser. What a duck. Where is Joe Arpaio or Sheriff Clarke when Americans need protection from dangerous criminals?

  • HIPAA, the federal law that regulates patient privacy, means that she can’t even tell him what room the patient is in without the patient’s consent, unless he has a warrant or unless the patient is under arrest. He was literally demanding that she break Federal law for him.

  • amindofitsown

    Pleasantly surprised to not see the usual “Obey the Cops And Nothing Will Go Wrong” crowd here.

    A friend of a Facebook friend had said this was just an easy lottery ticket for a nurse via a LEO who was simply trying to do his job. Nevermind, ya know, the legal ramifications of drawing some guy’s blood without his consent-that poor ofimacer was just DOING HIS JERB.

    I’m thinking maybe a break from the Internet altogether may not be an entirely bad idea after this. I don’t know if the nurse has any legal recourse here, but I hope she can sue the detectives’ pants off

    • Pierre_de_Fermat

      There was anger on the right too, and from some LEOs. The “just do as you’re told” crowd will have to get their love from each other because they won’t get it from the broader public. More broadly, the detective was following the orders of his lieutenant. So what’s up with that guy?

  • I know this isn’t the point, but I am disturbed to learn that cops draw blood for tox screens themselves – I always assumed that they would have an actual nurse or phlebotomist or some other medical type do that when warranted. Cops already have guns, we have to give them needles too? I’ve never met a cop I would want near me with a needle. The cop temperament is not what I’d call a good bedside manner, even when they’re not as over the top as this guy.

    • Bangkok Taxi

      You should try out the cop administered rectal search.
      The only good cop is a ……

    • WomanInThePersistence

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  • Lyly Sirivong

    She knows the law better than he does. Talk about being incompetent. Or maybe he just wanted to beat someone up. Which would make him incompetent.

    • tkingt

      This asshole cop adores Donnie.

  • Bangkok Taxi

    Yeah cops usually don’t see ANY problem with themselves. Been that way all my 60 years in USA.

  • Not a phrase I use but yes Jesus H. Christ
    With the f word too. Even with my personal belief that nurses are totally wonderful and saved my life more than once but JHFC

  • reelreeler

    Wow….seems he can’t be trusted to be a police officer or an ambulance medic.

  • BFD

    We need police police.

  • PresidentTrumpChicken (R GOP)

    Police brutality such as this is why Black Lives Matter was formed. It shouldn’t and doesn’t matter if it’s done to a black person or white person, it’s still police brutality, although much of it has been against black people. And yet these deplorable sacks of shit continue to receive ALL benefit of the doubt, much like our “President.” Donald Trump’s America.

  • Fusilier 0770

    The detective is aggressive heel who decided to lead with his dick and so escalated this situation in the most spectacularly stupid way he could come up with. I saw a much longer video from one of the other officer’s body cameras that shows more of the incident after she has been cuffed and placed in the detective’s car. It shows the uniformed supervisor who comes on the scene to justify this dumb action by mansplaining to her while she is his car in handcuffs why she is wrong and the po-lice are allowed whatever they want because they demand it. Looking at the other uniformed officers around, you get the sense of discomfort from them that this might be a bad scene. They stayed on the fringes not interceding so as not to get hammered by the chain of command afterwards (because blue wall code), but not really taking an active part in her arrest either just in case this shit goes viral (which it has).

    • harryeagar

      Cop was a jerk but the reaction of his superiors looks a lot worse. Fish rots from the head.

      Where is the mayor (or police commission or whoever hires the chief in Salt Lake)?

    • tkingt

      Cowards all.

  • Bill Diaz

    Just want to remind everyone what worthless, criminal scumbags the police in this country are (besides being fascists and murderers). Not only will they arrest without cause and murder without hesitation, but they now steal even more than non-police criminals do:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/

    In short, fuque the Police!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5fts7bj-so

    Have a great day!

  • Arthur Gane

    I hate to say this but maybe she was lucky she is white.

    • amrak63

      Yes, the sad fact is that her whiteness (which I share) may have saved her life.

    • Me not sure

      …and had an adorable last name like Wubbles. I mean if her name had been Grinchburger or something she’d have been maced and tased at the very least.

      • A Bashful Nobody

        Ooooh! Grinchburger! I like it. My two favorites are Fussmucker and Muckenfuss. Apologies to George Carlin.

  • Shannon B

    “he accuses her of interfering with a criminal case.” And then says in his report that it was for the victim’s protection? He’s a liar and an asshole

    • javadavis

      Wait a sec – if this had really been for a criminal case then the patient should have been either a) under arrest or b) subject to a warrant. Since neither was the case then there was no legal justification – not even an invented one – for needing that blood sample for the alleged criminal case.

  • amrak63

    There are honorable exceptions, but often, the smaller the size of the dick a man has, the bigger the dick he is–which also explains You Know Whom.

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      and Hitler

      • I thought he only had one ball.

        • ahughes798

          And a micro-penis that didn’t work right.

          • I thought that was Himmler…but maybe it was something similar.

    • tkingt

      Trump tower represents Donnie’s inadequacy.

  • Me not sure

    He must have checked off the petty and the vindictive boxes on his police job application.

    • A Bashful Nobody

      I’m surprised his head didn’t explode.

      • toughsister

        How can a vacuum explode?

        • A Bashful Nobody

          You’re going to make be break out my physics books aren’t you?

  • Gayer Than Thou

    The problem is men and the way we are raised and conditioned to think about things like how often we should get our way and in particular, the role that anger and violence play not just in resolving conflict but more importantly constructing our identities as masculine beings. Unless and until we can all confront that, we’re gonna have trouble.

  • amrak63

    [snark] Now, now, folks–the poor cop was just having a bad day due to economic anxiety. You know that when white people do dickish things, it’s because of their economic anxiety, poor babies. [/snark]

  • I agree with comments below that Officer Bullyshithead was looking for coverage to protect the police department in the event of a lawsuit. So, someone please tell me, he ultimately didn’t get a blood sample, did he?

    • Moar Wordz

      It had already been done w/the ER work-up prior to his tantrum. He did not get the blood sample.

  • toughsister

    He’s been placed on administrative PAID leave. He’ll be quietly reinstated with no consequences (“He was following procedures”. Somehow, that didn’t fly at the Nuremberg trials, but it happens all the time in the good ol’ U.S. of A.). If he had publicly raped that nurse (in the line of duty, of course), things would have been the same.

    • tkingt

      Coward with badge and gun. I would love to knock him on his ass.

    • Daria Wells

      From this article: “…he’s still on duty while the case is investigated internally, according to SLC police spokesperson Sgt. Brandon Shearer,”. Paid leae would be bad enough, but he is doing business as usual!

  • dshwa

    Dear Cops,

    This, this right here, is why people don’t trust you and don’t like you. No, not the raging asshole arresting the nurse. He’s NOT the biggest problem. It’s the rest of you, standing around watching the raging asshole and not intervening. You know he’s wrong, and out of control. We can see it on your faces in the footage. But none of you steps in. None of you tries to deescalate him. None of you point out he’s wrong. You let him go right on doing what he’s doing, evidence of his wrong doing be damned.
    This is why there’s a black lives matter movement. This is why you feel people are so hostile towards you. Because you don’t call out your fellow officers when they do bad things, you close ranks and protect them. You don’t fire the out of control ones, the ones who violate the public’s trust in the police to do the right thing, you put them on administrative leave, or a desk job, like you did with this guy, and too many times you only do even that when you’re caught on tape and can’t deny what happened.
    To adapt the quote from health care: Officers, police thyself.

    • ahughes798

      Brava! Just perfect.

    • This should be reprinted in every newspaper, blog and outlet there is.

    • Sy Colepath

      Maybe they just hate his phucking guts and hopes this will finally get him shitcanned.

      • dshwa

        I’m betting this isn’t the first time he’s abused his authority. If they’d wanted him gone they likely had ample opportunity before this.

        • NotConvinced

          Isn’t ironic the Thugpig’s last name is Payne?

    • rocktonsam

      Yep,don’t trust em, any of them. I have rights to my feelings …right? Right!?

      • dshwa

        Lol Wut?
        This isn’t about feelings. This is about complicity thru inaction because of loyalty to some code, or brotherhood, or fear of speaking out on the part of the officers standing around watching. It’s a legitimate criticism of behavior, not an attack.
        I have a great respect for police. It’s not an easy job. But just because the job is difficult doesn’t mean that they should be immune from criticism, or not held accountable when they fail to meet a standard of behavior.

    • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

      Not only that, but any single cop who dared to intervene would have opened himself up to retaliation from the ranks.

      • dshwa

        Exactly. That’s the culture that needs to change. The officers not interfering should be the ones retaliated against by their ferllow officers.

  • btwbfdimho
    • Peggy Ryan

      Dumbass. When he was leaving a shelter he said “Have a good time, everybody”.

    • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

      Only a filthy cocksucker who is devoid of empathy could behave like that.

  • PabloDali

    Further proof that Cops are Violent Neanderthal Thugs with badges and guns.

  • ahughes798

    And people ask me why I don’t trust LEOs.

  • tkingt

    That prick with a badge wouldn’t grab a man like that. One punch and that out of shape asshole would be on his back. Another coward with badge and gun. I’ll bet Donnie loves this video. Birds of a feather.

  • Bezoar

    Hospital rule of thumb; don’t give any shit to the Head Nurse of the Burn Unit.

  • Sunhead

    I am Socialist AF and pro Union but when it comes to the US cops the Fraternal Orders of Police _are_ the problem. They will stand behind this asshole 100%, work to conceal his disciplinary rap sheet, leak anything they can get on the nurse or the victim and generally act like mafiosi to protect one of their own.
    This is not one bad apple, this is the little spot that tells you termite ate your foundations.

    • Moar Wordz

      I had calls from some sadistic sicko claiming to be from the Fraternal Order of Police, simultaneously insulting me while giving me the speil.
      I just put the phone very quietly back on the receiver and erased the entire conversation from my mind.

      • Samuel D. Crish

        Ugh, you just triggered a recovered memory of dealing with FOP harassment calls that I thought I erased from MY mind!

        • Moar Wordz

          That’s the funny thing, it didn’t seem like he wanted $$$ at all, only to harass me…I had a friend over and we had both been staring at the geust room ceiling perplexed because it sounded like some one was moving furniture up there – and there’s only a friggin’ crawl space !
          “Ring Ring,” this is asshole calling.
          We then went out into the beautiful fall day & picked apples and ate cider donuts. The assholes can only harass you if you’re at home !

        • Moar Wordz

          Sorry…I didn’t mean to

      • Grumpy Old Man
        • Moar Wordz

          Sad bunny w/ cheese grater :(

    • Bigdaddyvike

      Ha. The FOPs- one union they’ll never break. The NRA will ensure that.

    • mailman27

      Until training and (especially) screening are reformed it’ll never change.
      tl;dr It’ll never change.

  • Moar Wordz

    Payne has an erection in the photo where he’s grabbing the nurse by the arm.
    Use of force = sexual gratification, underlying cause of why many cops are sadistic.
    Khakis in particular…show a half-mast

  • PabloDali

    Welcome to Trump’s America!

    • James1754

      Hate, noting but hate.

  • Cinder Biscuits

    This video really hurts to watch because I remember this nurse sitting with me while I choked down activated charcoal after my overdose a number of years ago. She literally helped save my life. Wasn’t the nicest nurse I’ve ever met (ER nurses are tough as nails!) but she played a vital role in me being able to sit here and write this right now.

  • javadavis

    Needs more cats.
    Here’s one, this guy always cheers me up. Don’t know why…
    ( click CC to get english subtitles )

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=163&v=_WEMtYj2pJc

    • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

      I give the cat a perfect 10, especially for knowing to go with one paw at extreme range.

  • John Thorstensen

    Apparently, the Idaho police dept that employed the burn victim is standing up FOR THE NURSE, since she was defending THEIR officer’s rights. This is very heartening. I bet that asshole gets in a heap o’ trouble.

    • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

      Word is there’s a criminal investigation underway.

  • Bigdaddyvike

    I really hope the baddest-ass civil rights pro-bono attorney in Salt Lake gets behind this. And if the hospital doesn’t, he can sue them too. Outrageous.

  • Marc Berrenson

    “I really hope the baddest-ass civil rights pro-bono attorney in Salt Lake gets behind this.”

    Are you kidding? In Salt Lake City? Oooo, you used the ASS word in the same sentence as Salt Lake City. STRAIGHT TO HELL, I SAY!

  • Tosca

    “…our completely amateur legal analysis is that the detective wanted to be absolutely sure a Brother Officer would have a clean toxicology test…”

    My conclusion was completely the opposite. At that point, the cops may not have known the victim was a Brother Officer. But he was injured during a police chase and, if he or his family decides to sue, there may be uncomfortable questions about whether the chase was justified/procedures were followed. If they could get a blood sample which would show he WAS intoxicated, that could be valuable leverage. And the fact that the cop is so desperate to get it, suggests he was going to make SURE it showed intoxication…

    All in all, a class A goatfuck.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      which would be fine – except, as I understand it, you’ve got the party’s backward.

      This guy was a VICTIM of the driver running from the cops.

  • Douglas Green

    So here we have an incident where we don’t have the usual race and class overlay. Everybody’s white, middle class and basically members of the same community. Household incomes and education attainment are in the same orbits, sociologically speaking. So here we just see the raw application of police power and we see a cop needing something, possibly with a motive beyond just usual investigative need, and he uses his poet to coerce what he needs. If this is how he’s prepared to honor the rights of a white, educated, professional woman, wearing a uniform and who has a position of authority, how are the civil rights of a hispanic woman who speaks limited English and has limited ability to know her own rights – how are her rights honored in the field?

    • Douglas Green

      power (not poet) – stupid auto spell

    • bettycat

      Which is why the nurse wasn’t shot dead. Once again, white people may not be better, but it sure is better to be white.

  • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

    The presumption is that cops know the law they are paid to enforce, but in a great many cases the evidence does not support that presumption.

    • RSSAA

      WHat cops want is to bully people and beat up “perps”. Had a cop as a brother-in-law, and Dirty Harry and Fartsky & Crotch were his role models.

  • NotConvinced

    Since when do the unconscious have rights?
    -Police Chief Brown

  • NotConvinced

    Where do conscious people get the idea of “Their Rights”? And what is this Konztitoohshin their always crying about? It’s crazy.
    -Chief Brown

  • Mysterious Masked Wrestler

    Hollywood and TV cop dramas have been bombarding us with the same fascist propaganda for at least 45 years: cops are always right, the rules are stupid and get in the way of justice, and anyone who complains of excessive force is either a stone cold criminal or one of these black people who always calls white people racist.
    Just the other day I saw an episode of Blue Bloods where a “good cop” was unfairly put on trial for shooting a (white) man who’d committed 32 rapes AND had a gun. And all the characters were shaking their heads and whining about how the system was out of control and victimizing the police. YOU’RE NOT SHOOTING SERIAL RAPISTS, YOU’RE SHOOTING UNARMED 12-YEAR OLDS PLAYING IN THE PARK AND LETTING THEM BLEED TO DEATH. YOU’RE SHOOTING PEOPLE IN THE BACK OVER TRAFFIC TICKETS, STRANGLING PEOPLE OVER SELLING CIGARETTES FOR A FEW BUCKS, AND ON AND ON AND ON. Goddamn these fucking assholes for pretending otherwise.

  • NotConvinced

    I would love to see the written procedure Payne was going by. Police immediately switched to a NEW policy seconds after Payne lost his shit and the shit hit the fan.

  • handyhippie65

    and they wonder why no one has respect for police anymore. they employ thugs on a power trip, and not only defend them when they fuck up, but keep them on the payroll while they decide how soon to let them off the hook.

  • AndreWaters20

    Police need to abide by the law the same as the rest of us. Even more so, because they need to set an example of good citizenship and civil behavior. This policeman broke the law and should be charged the same as any other citizen would be if they came in that hospital, grabbed up a nurse, put her in cuffs and dragged her away with zero cause. The charge is kidnapping. Look it up.

  • William
  • Donna Schoenkopf

    Reminds me of when I got grabbed . . . etc. This shit must stop. Seriously. (P.S. I won a lawsuit over mine. Thank you, Uncle Victor and Paul Hoffman for saving my ass.)
    P.S. GREAT piece, Dok.

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