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Donald Trump is bad at America, two out of three Americans agree, and the third American not only is an actual Nazi, but also doesn’t think sugar, or meth, causes tooth decay. And so you get the sight of a lot of genuinely distressed Republicans, like this pretty Fox woman who can’t believe she’s being called a liberal now just because she doesn’t approve of Nazi-murder, and “stunned” administration officials who didn’t think he’d say his private beliefs out loud.

Among the now familiar WTFs is this load of hot take: Why can’t Donald Trump be a good American, and hate racism, like Ronald Reagan did? Splain us, Huffington Post!

Former President Ronald Reagan spoke to the NAACP’s annual convention in 1981 when he was commander in chief, and his comments stand in sharp contrast to Trump’s tepid response to racist violence.

“A few isolated groups in the backwater of American life still hold perverted notions of what America is all about,” he said in a clip going viral. “Recently in some places in the nation there’s been a disturbing reoccurrence of bigotry and violence.”

Then, Reagan sent a direct message to those “who still adhere to senseless racism and religious prejudice.”

“You are the ones who are out of step with our society. You are the ones who willfully violate the meaning of the dream that is America. And this country, because of what it stands for, will not stand for your conduct.”

“My administration will vigorously investigate and prosecute those who, by violence or intimidation, would attempt to deny Americans their constitutional rights,” he promised.

[Lame blockquoting in original.]

Well, if you’re looking for “what’s the very least Trump should have said out loud in polite society,” that would be correct. And it was also the very least Ronald Reagan could have said, because St. Reagan, whose administration never became him like his leaving of it, was actually kind of a HUGE RACIST, who created the dogwhistles we’re still hearing today. To wit!

Mississippi Burning

Ronald Reagan kicked off his 1980 presidential campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi, the town where the Freedom Riders three civil rights organizers were murdered for registering black people to vote. His speech was about “states’ rights,” which is not very secret code for “states’ rights to own black people.” (Just ask those libtards at the libtarded “Library of Congress.”) Here, listen to this Mississippi history guy:

On July 31st, just days before Reagan went to Neshoba County, the New York Times reported that the Ku Klux Klan had endorsed Reagan. In its newspaper, the Klan said that the Republican platform “reads as if it were written by a Klansman.” Reagan rejected the endorsement, but only after a Carter cabinet official brought it up in a campaign speech. The dubious connection did not stop Reagan from using segregationist language in Neshoba County.

It was clear from other episodes in that campaign that Reagan was content to let southern Republicans link him to segregationist politics in the South’s recent past. Reagan’s states rights line was prepared beforehand and reporters covering the event could not recall him using the term before the Neshoba County appearance. John Bell Williams, an arch-segregationist former governor who had crossed party lines in 1964 to endorse Barry Goldwater, joined Reagan on stage at another campaign stop in Mississippi. Reagan’s campaign chair in the state, Trent Lott, praised Strom Thurmond, the former segregationist Dixiecrat candidate in 1948, at a Reagan rally, saying that if Thurmond had been elected president “we wouldn’t be in the mess we are today.”

And Trent Lott was thrown out of the Republican party for good and never became Senate Majority Leader, and then didn’t say it AGAIN in 2002 and actually have to step down, while Republicans wept real tears for how unfair it was that he was driven from party leadership just for pining for the good old days of Jim Crow.

Strapping Young Bucks and Cadillac Queens

Ronald Reagan never shut up about “young bucks buying T-bones with food stamps” and “welfare queens driving Cadillacs.” He meant black young bucks and black welfare queens. It was a whole thing with him! He said it a lot! He was like the Paul Le Page of his day!

The Moral Majority Is Neither

When Bob Jones University was going to have to pay taxes instead of getting all its lovely money tax free, because it was the 1980s and still banned interracial dating, Ronald Reagan came to its rescue! Then everybody was like “wow, that is pretty racist even for 1982,” and he was like oh, did I do that???

Jesus, Urkel is never funny.

Martin Luther King Jr.? Ronald Reagan and John McCain Agree: Fuck That Guy!

Learn us, http://<a href=” target=”_blank” rel=”noopener”>Boston Review!

As support for the holiday gained momentum in 1981 and 1982, Reagan vehemently opposed the idea, arguing that such a tribute would cost the federal government too much money (an estimated $18 million per year) and that “we could have an awful lot of holidays if we start down that road.” On October 19, 1983, Reagan attended his bimonthly President’s News Conference in the East Room of the White House. Shortly after he took to the podium he fielded a question on King. “Mr. President,” a reporter asked, “Senator Helms has been saying on the Senate floor that Martin Luther King, Jr., had communist associations, was a communist sympathizer. Do you agree?” With no discernable pause Reagan responded, “We’ll know in about thirty-five years, won’t we?”, referring to when King’s FBI file would be unsealed.

Then everybody was like “you are sounding pretty racist AGAIN, even for 1983” and he was like oh, never mind.

Emily Litella is never not funny.

How About Opposing the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and Having to Rent to Black Guys (Just Like Trump!)

He opposed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, calling it “a bad piece of legislation.” A year later he came out against the Voting Rights Act, which he deemed “humiliating to the South.” During his 1966 California gubernatorial campaign, he defended the Golden State’s Proposition 14, which passed in 1964 and nullified the state’s fair housing law, effectively reinstating the right to discriminate in home sales and leases. “If an individual wants to discriminate against Negroes or others in selling or renting his house,” Reagan insisted, “it is his right to do so.” A Reagan campaign ad that same year referred to black neighborhoods as “jungles.”

Oh jeez, we didn’t even know that part until we read further in that Boston Review piece about MLK Day. Fucking YIKES.

Basically, Donald Trump and Ronald Reagan are racist twinsies. It’s just that Ronald Reagan knew how to actually pivot, when people got mad at him for saying the quiet parts out loud.

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  • Msgr_MΩment
    • beingreleased

      I’d just like to point out that somewhere in my attic is a picture of me with Mr. T. At least I hope its still there. The point is, I met Mr. T once.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Where’s you kiss him?

        • Oblios_Cap

          Did you sit on his lap?

    • Treg Brown

      Did she just kiss Mr. T with the same mouth she used to… Nevermind.

      • wide_stance_hubby

        Yep.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        I know that look in his face with two stockinged legs in between his knees.

        • wide_stance_hubby

          He’s mentally scrubbing the smell of old jizz, moth balls and pep-o-mints off his head.

      • OrdinaryJoe

        Looking at that pic of her kissing that man on the head, I am reminded of the stories I’ve seen about how she liked to kiss men there.

        • Oblios_Cap

          Trailer hitches quailed when she came around, lest they be rendered chrome-less.

    • schmannity

      Just say no, Mr. T.

    • I love that warm lap feel.

    • SadDemInTex

      Mr. T would cut down trees “for exercise” on his (at the beginning of his ownership) tree-filled yard on Chicago’s North Shore. I wonder if he sold the place after he cut down all the trees.

    • Nockular cavity

      Lap dance.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Even Reagan was a cuck, apparently?

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Not to mention Reagan’s close association with Lee Atwater, the man who, even if he didn’t invent the racist dog whistle, certainly perfected it.

  • elviouslyqueer

    Plus, dear Ronnie also hated the gays. And, y’know, joked about AIDS A LOT.

    So pretty much fuck his fucking rotting corpse forever.

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Which is why I have never regretted any of the vile things I wished upon his necrotic mass.

  • OrdinaryJoe

    Reagan is far worse. He didn’t appear to actually believe what he said, but he cynically exploited racism to advance his political career. Trump was raised to believe that shit by his KKK father.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Not sure if that makes Reagan worse.
      At least he didn’t want to resurrect the 3rd Reich.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Who knows what Reagan really believed? And I’m not sure it matters?

      He was happy to read any script that was set before him, effusing every drop of sincerity a successful B movie actor can squeeze out…

      And by all accounts, he remained a sound sleeper through all of it, not troubled one bit…

    • wide_stance_hubby

      It is rather like debating the stank of elephant shit vs elephant farts.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Ot..but Irony & Hyocrisy Meter Meltdown of the Day quote:

    Trump said, “Now, I have to tell you, some of the folks that will leave, they’re leaving out of embarrassment because they make their products outside. I’ve been lecturing them, including the gentleman that you’re referring to, about you have to bring it back to this country,” he said.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmE8pXnWAAAFRU3.jpg

    “If you look at some of those people that you’re talking about they’re outside of the country, they’re having a lot of their product made outside. If you look at Merck as an example, take a look at where their product is made. It’s made outside of our country,” he told reporters at his Trump Towers in New York.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/89c979e56a9969e47a776b550a5f295e06be7555c630d96bb4c4a194c8637faa.gif

    • cmd resistor

      Embarassment, maybe, for being associated in any way with YOU.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    OT: I like the cut of Heather Heyer’s mother’s jib. LIVE: https://www.facebook.com/splinternews/videos/1974582246160554/
    Bring plenty of Kleenex.
    /her speech just ended

  • An unnamed official says Hell has been renamed “Reagan.”

  • schmannity

    Reagan a RINO and so hard on the Russians. Sad!

  • Bill D. Burger

    Reagan opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1964 and he supported apartheid……………..and he had a lawn jockey. Nuff’ said.

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-aDduDaT2N6w/VYS631aF7JI/AAAAAAAABWc/dmmPRDAhVbA/s1600/reagan.jpg

    • Suttree

      When I lived in New Orleans, they had those in all of the surrounding suburbs. Prominently displayed also too.

      • Amy!

        They’re cheaper than confederate generals, and get the same message across just as clearly.

    • cmd resistor

      I notice that my neighbor got rid of her lawn jockey. Not, I am sure, because she changed her views, but probably because the paint was peeling and she is picky like that.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    This “old-timey Republicans were much nicer than current Republicans” is a paradigm that we have to ditch.

    There’s no reason to wax nostalgic for Reagan, Goldwater, or even Eisenhower, as some are wont to do. Mostly, they just, as Rebecca said, knew enough not to say the quiet parts loud.

    • DesertedPictures

      Eisenhower wasn’t that bad. And he was around when the Dixiecrats where still in the Democratic party.
      The Republicans could have remained a sane party: if only they had followed Rockenfeller…

      • Latverian Diplomat

        He did nothing about McCarthyism, and next to nothing about civil rights. He presided over the creation of the military-industrial complex and then decried it on his way out the door.

        • Oblios_Cap

          Not to mention putting “In God We Trust” on the currency.

      • Rags

        He was recruited by both parties as a candidate.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        Rockefeller got himself divorced and remarried, and that couldn’t be tolerated in the Republican Party, so they all pivoted to Goldwater.

  • SadDemInTex

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again “I shit on Ronald Reagan’s grave.”

    • So that’s why the flowers on there grow so well.

      • SadDemInTex

        I hate him with every bone in my body. My shit is too good for him.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
    • Suttree

      Upvote for Matt only.

  • exinkwretch

    I was 20 years of age in 1980 and thus eligible to vote in a presidential election for the first time. And if would have voted for Ronnie’s “Bedtime for Bonzo” co-star before I would have voted for Ronnie. I grew up close enough to California to know what an actual fucknozzle he was.

    • La forza del resistino

      Acting as President was his greatest role, until he could no longer remember his lines.

  • Oblios_Cap

    Trump is Reaganism taken to its logical conclusion. This beast is the result of the GOPs Southern Strategy. Screw those assholes. What did they think was going to happen?

  • Reximus

    omg Heather Heyer’s mom just killed it at her daughter’s eulogy

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Absofuckinglutely.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      Crying about that still. :(

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      You can tell that Heather was raised by a wonderful mother. I can’t even imagine the pain she must be in.

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Oblios_Cap

      And he thought universal healthcare would create a socialist dystopia. What a jerk.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        How many folks on Medicare in the 80s voted for that guy. Jeebus.

    • jesterpunk
  • MynameisBlarney

    Wehehehehehell now.

    Very interesting.

    https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029470706

    • Suttree

      I’m sure it was just a coinkydink.

    • Oblios_Cap

      She must just be crushed.

    • BadKitty904

      A badge of honor for Ms. Matlin. Wear it proudly, Marlee!

    • Nockular cavity

      “You criticize Nazis, you criticize my dad! Wait, that didn’t come out right…”

      • Celtic_Gnome

        I’m beginning to think that, instead of Uday and Qusay, they should be referred to as Fredo and Fredo.

  • Suttree

    Two racist assholes that Republicans love. It’s almost like there are a hell of a lot of nazis/white nationalists/kkk members on the right. I love it when I hear “I not racist, but……”.

    • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

      Then they proceed to say the most racist shit you’ve ever heard irl.

  • WiscoJoe

    For the past 40 years, conventional wisdom is that Republicans (like Reagan) aren’t actually racist, but they’re just acting that way to win votes, which is okay because Republicans are transparent about their win at all cost “convictions” when they’re (off record) among polite company. And that’s how we ended up in a situation where polite company could spend the last several years lazily accepting that Trump is only acting like a sociopathic birther conspiracy theorist racist ignoramus.

    The problem is Reagan was indeed an actor following a well written script. It was easy for the media to suspend their disbelief and treat him like he was just playing a role in a scripted drama. Trump isn’t an actor. He’s a reality show freak, and he’s not following a script.

    • jowgajen

      This only works if your standard for not racist it’s limited to did not actually have Klan hood in basement closet.

      • WiscoJoe

        Yeah, my criticism here is that our standards for “not racist” is ludicrous, as Reagan proved. Our willingness to suspend our disbelief about racist actions from the likes of Reagan is shameful.

        So yes, this only works if your standard for not racist is incredibly low and specific. Unfortunately, that’s the standard a lot of conventional wisdom has been willing to indulge for decades.

        • jowgajen

          “Oh yeah, he’s not really racist, he’s just a narcissist with sociopathic tendencies willing to trade in human misery for votes and power.”

          • WiscoJoe

            Pretty much. I can’t overstate how cynical conventional wisdom often is.

    • Baconzgood

      “Well they are gay so deserve to die of A.I.D.S”

      -Reagan (in “polite” company) 1985-

      • WiscoJoe

        I’m not defending Reagan.

        I fucking hate the internet sometimes.

  • Me not sure

    Trump’s Presidential memoir should be titled “Mein Swamp”.

    • BadKitty904

      “It was a Triumph of the Shill…”

      • Me not sure

        “The Rise And Fall of the Turd Reich”?

        • BadKitty904

          Here’s hoping the “Fall” is sooner rather than later.

          • Permit-holder Ron

            ‘Later today’ would be appreciated, though not expected.

          • BadKitty904

            From your mouth to God’s ear.

        • mailman27

          Written by Bertha Vanation

      • Werewolf

        Triumph of the Swill.

    • Gayer Than Thou

      Please come to the front desk to claim your prize.

    • Shibusa

      That is Goering to be a best seller.

      • Me not sure

        Oh Heil yes!

    • GemlikeFlame

      “The Art of the Squeal”

  • Run2Live
  • La forza del resistino

    Reagan was titled the great communicator, but just watched Heather Heyer’s Mom eulogize her. Can we haz a new Presnident now. right now. Mom is the real deal.

  • BadKitty904
    • H0mer0

      [whoever introduced “Pinot Noir” to Wonkette, I salute you. I might have to bingewatch retroactively.]

      • BadKitty904

        Just take the application and go wherever white folks go to finish stuff – like a farmer’s market, a dog park, or a live recording of Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me.”

        • H0mer0

          I just googled that quote and it led back to this post.

          • BadKitty904

            Changing, yet changeless, Wonkette is the Alpha and Omega of Snark, the Ending and the Beginning…

            Plus, I paraphrased the line, so an exact google search will only retrieve my version. To find the original, try googling the following – “a farmer’s market, a dog park, or a live recording of Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me.”

  • Jenny

    So Reagan was kind of a lesson of hey don’t even be dog whistle racist either dammit!

    Is our childrens learning?

    Nope.

    At least none of the ones who continue to vote for racists, bigots, and segregationists of all kinds. Yes, both sides goddammit cuz there was some racist shit coming out of the left too. Oh look at me making what aboutisms! Shut up you’re all grounded!

  • Crystalclear12

    Thanks for the Republican racism thru the ages tour.
    Now don’t take this personally but I got to go heave.

  • armed_bears

    Far be it for me to piss on the stack of Wonkette Pringles… but when we have an ideological niche for everyone, ever, based on their positions at one specific point in time, we’re kinda being dicks.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Ronnie was a fuckknuckle for a pretty substantial part of his life.

      • armed_bears

        Undoubtedly. And the allowance for “pretty substantial” != “always” is one of the many reasons, I suspect, you are not Trump.

        • armed_bears

          But Whoa If True.

        • Oblios_Cap

          He led a union for a while.

    • rebecca

      “from 1964 to 1988” seems like more than one specific point ;)

      • elviouslyqueer

        from 1964-2004, if you wanna get all technical.

        Asshole didn’t change one single iota after he left office, Alzheimer’s-related dementia notwithstanding.

      • armed_bears

        “It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to hide impotence,” said someone sometime.

        So, I guess, context and timing. Do we require perfect allies, or fellow humans, to be alongside us?

        • P’jama Pahnts

          I don’t think that preferring compassionate people to be along side us it too much to ask.

          • armed_bears

            Cool job: compassion tester. Hope I get an “A”.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      If you’re Robert Byrd and you acknowledge and try to atone for your racist past, then yes. Reagan was pretty much a racist dickhead the entire time he was sentient.

    • Ricky Gay

      “Far be it for me” is cropping up more and more in your posts. Is it a cry for help? Are you struggling? Do you want to talk about it?

      • armed_bears

        No, no and no.

        I just recognize I am probably an ally of convenience to Wonkers, given the current situation… I am comfortable with the thought that “gun-owning-rural-goat-ranching liberal” is a pretty narrow demographic, so I am probably not the core demo here (but I give monthly)… I am just a little leery of purity tests.

        Saaayyy, you know who else had purity tests?

        • armed_bears

          I mean, besides Ivory Snow.

        • Ricky Gay

          It’s the prefacing. I would expect a goat rancher to just head butt their opinion and hope for the best!

          • armed_bears

            You’re thinking sheep… Goats give off more a get-along-go-along sort of vibe.

          • Ricky Gay

            PS: I am a bleeding heart liberal who owns guns and knows how to use them. And I love goats!

          • Ricky Gay

            Er, not in the biblical sense, of course!

        • Alan

          You might be surprised at the demographic diversity.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          If it makes you feel any better, nobody is the core demo here. We all have idiosyncrasies that fly in the face of easy categorization.

        • chortlingdingo

          GOATS? What kind of goats?!

          • armed_bears

            For dairy, nigerian and nubian. You know, from Not America.

            I bought one Boer (also Not America, it occurs to me) as a meat goat. He is now about 200 pounds and follows me around all day asking for animal crackers. His name is Kevin.

          • chortlingdingo

            That’s fantastic! I always hear such lovely things about goats.

          • armed_bears
          • chortlingdingo

            Omg those babies are probably the cutest things I’ve ever seen!

          • armed_bears

            Well, at the risk of profiling, ‘dingo’ kinda makes one suspicious as to motives.

          • chortlingdingo

            Oh dear, I’m not that kind of dingo.

          • armed_bears

            And some, I’m sure, are good dingos.

          • chortlingdingo
          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Squeee!

        • rebecca

          nah we got some rural gun guys here. but the goats make you special!

        • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

          I love goats, I once drove many miles to Coombs to see the goats that had a playground on a roof.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVFlHw38uQM

    • armed_bears

      OK… great and understood. But think about how we’re gonna fill the trenches. Are you more indignant about Reagan in ’83 or Gohmert in 2017? Context and time matter, and if you would suggest Reagan is Trump, you’re wrong.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        It’s not equivalence, it’s context; pointing out that Trump is the apogee of a long history of Republican racist rhetoric. As I said in a previous post, it’s nice seeing Republicans disavow Trump’s comments about Nazis, but it gives them the chance for the typical bait and switch: Pat yourself on the back for calling out white supremacists while doing targeted voter disenfranchisement of minorities and drumming up fear of non-white immigrants.

    • Alan

      Reagan was always a racist. It has nothing to do with any specific point in time.

    • P’jama Pahnts

      I think if we’re going to focus on what a prick someone is at a certain point in their life, their presidency might be the time to do it. You know, when it, like, really matters.

      • armed_bears

        Yes. My point, in fact. Allies of convenience are still allies. I need not be perfect in your eyes to still be committed to the same goal. Does committed have 2 ts and 2 ms?

  • Anna Rompage

    It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if a number of the old republican guard are dusting off their finest robes and hood, gleefull that their uniforms are coming back into an accepted style…

  • Daredevil

    Trump supporters are the same people who call Muhammad Ali a traitor for refusing to be drafted because he stuck up for his beliefs that he had no beef with Vietnam and then turn around and worship Ted Nugent who dodged the same war by crapping his pants and neglecting his personal hygiene.

    • Ricky Gay

      They all secretly wish to lick the stool of a white he-man.

  • Gayer Than Thou

    You know who grew up to be unexpectedly hot? Steve Urkel, that’s who. Also, the GOP can go fuck themselves with votes and anything else because racist people have been their bread and butter for a very long time.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/23f96e4ef7cf0583cd48668c5396bc61207f6dde93760b6060d8a423a82c78d5.jpg

    • BadKitty904

      Um, disturbingly hot.

    • Anna Rompage

      Whoa….

    • Daredevil

      Is he really UNEXPECTEDLY hot? I thought he was always hot. Even in Family Matters Urkel had his hotter alter ego.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        It was the glasses on/ugly glasses off/hot trope, but for a dude.

        • H0mer0

          one does not end up with a career in TV or film without being photogenic to begin with.

          • Oblios_Cap

            Steve Buscemi libel?

          • H0mer0

            he cleaned up real nice in “The Wedding Singer.”

    • elviouslyqueer

      ROWR. BRB, need about 15 minutes.

      • Yellerduck

        Braggart.

    • Raan

      You know what, I’m secure enough in my masculinity to say it: Goddamn, he is a handsome man.

      • Gayer Than Thou

        As I like to say, #OnlyHuman.

    • AnnieGetYerFun
  • Daredevil

    Reagan’s “war on drugs” was one of the things that helped launch the whole prison industrial complex to begin with.

    • BadKitty904

      His silence during the beginning of the AIDS epidemic earned him an eternal place in the lowest depths of Hell.

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        Recordings of the press conferences of that time. . . Laughter, cruel jokes. . . That was chilling, to say the least.

        • BadKitty904

          Yet so “Republican”.

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            Yes, not very surprising at all, they are the party of cruelty.

          • Permit-holder Ron

            They’ve really just been tweaking that behaviour ever since.

          • BadKitty904

            And very little, if any.

          • Permit-holder Ron

            Just making it more efficient, really.

      • Alan

        Pffft…gay people.

        • BadKitty904

          Gay Americans.

          • Alan

            Assholes don’t care about that.

          • BadKitty904

            Some Americans are more American than other Americans.

            ~ The GOP

          • Alan

            Obviously.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        We lost my best friend to that. I still ache for his loss.

        • BadKitty904

          Never forget that the Republicans are responsible for that.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            I won’t, he was a beautiful, intelligent, sarcastic soul and the world is a lesser place for his and all the other wonderful persons we lost as a result of the “Evil Empire.”

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            I never will, Badkitty.

  • Gayer Than Thou

    So a Nazi and a white supremacist walk into the GOP convention.

    That’s it – there’s no joke.

  • Ricky Gay

    I would like to thank the current White House resident and all of his fine torch-bearing losers. Eschewing sheets, hoods and dog whistling will make it easier to weed them out and into the dustbin of history!

  • chascates
    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      Great song! Nina Simone was just awesome!

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    That’s why the concept that was floated yesterday that Trump just doesn’t have the kind of PR people to run damage control like Peggy Noonan was for Reagan was so flippin’ ridiculous.
    1) Donnie Two Scoops don’t listen to no one but himself
    2) Peggy Noonan might have been able to sand off the rougher edges, but she had no problem putting the right code words and dog whistles in his speeches.

    • georgiaburning

      Reagan could read a script and take direction, those were his career skills

      • Permit-holder Ron

        His ONLY career skills.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Trump is actually proud of his stupidest performances. The bigger of an ass he makes of himself, the more delighted he is.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    And a related problem that Reagan’s policies helped to spark is American economic inequality:

    https://acivilamericandebate.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/growth-in-income-inequality1.jpg

  • Bill D. Burger

    Reports are that Ivanka and Jared were ‘very upset’ over her father’s remarks?
    Hmmm….How will she express her disappointment and outrage?

    Oh I know: Coming soon: Ivanka’s “LOVE & TOGETHERNESS” pin. Set with 40 exquisite faux, but classy, diamonds. Only 99$ at retailers everywhere, oh…and the White House gift shop.

    • cmd resistor

      Wonder what they think of the guy on the Vice piece and what he said about them.

    • Permit-holder Ron

      If I had US$99 to spend I could drive to Baltimore and actually be with someone I have actual love and tenderness for. Though I couldn’t get back.

  • And in another 35 years, the GOP will wonder why their President Clone Adolph Hitler can’t show the restraint and political savvy of Donald Trump in matters of race.

  • BadKitty904
    • [pinching glob of pink fat]

      “You can’t *buy* this shit!”

  • jesterpunk

    Since there is a picture of Mohammad Ali, here is his speech about the Vietnam War.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeFMyrWlZ68

  • Baconzgood

    “Yeah Yeah but Ray-Gun single handedly kung-fu chopped down the Berlin Wall while break dancing to Honky-tonk Badonk-a-Donk”

    Says every Republican EVER.

    Never mind the fact that the fall of the wall HAD literally NOTHING to do with the United States. Don’t believe me? Visit your local library.

    • OutOfOrbit

      The local library only has leftist propaganda and other fake shit to read

      • Baconzgood

        I’m there right now. In a free class on how to switch careers after the age of 40 in the 21st century. Fucking commies. This program should be cut for 7 years to pay for 1 tomahawk missle.

      • Gotdang facts and their liberal bias!

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      You’re not kidding. The PEOPLE tore down the Brandenburg Gate based on a reporting error. Raygun had no more to do with that than I did, and I was too busy playing with my G.I. Joes to do anything. . . Then again, so was Ronnie, now that I think about it.

      • Baconzgood

        When asked when the unrestricted travel can start? He said immediately. He meant to fill out paper work (oopsie). Not to mention how Hungary played into it. I was taking a nap after class (I’m aged Baconz) I remember my mom waking me up and we watched it…as it transpired. BaconzMa kept saying “unbelievable…never in my life did I think this would happen….not a single shot fired…they are dancing on it at Check Point Charlie…never in my life and with no tanks…” she was. between weeping and laughing and stunned.

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          My best friend’s dad was in the AF, he was a major, he was stationed there at the time. She was freaked out when it happened, she thought a full blown war was about to break out with her daddy stuck in the middle.

          He was fine, btw :lol

        • marxalot

          One of my first distinct memories, I’m sitting at the breakfast table in the New House, it’s gray outside and I’m eating oatmeal. I’m too young for school, but I eat breakfast after my brother gets on the bus. Comrade Mom is in the kitchen, and NPR is on the radio, as always in my mother’s house. The man on the radio says that they’re getting reports from all over West Berlin and West Germany, that the border guards have abandoned their posts and people are pouring over.

      • P’jama Pahnts

        Hey, I was playing with G.I. Joes at that moment too! Although I was in my 20s.

        • Baconzgood

          In your small way. You contributed. Thanks for tearing down the wall PJ Bottoms. The world owes you a debt of gratitude.

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          That’s okay, Raygun was in his seventies. He really loved playing Destro and selling arms to the Dreadnoughts.

        • Baconzgood

          Rick M., a super under rated actor, improved that whole scene.

    • marxalot

      I know way too much about the collapse of the Eastern Bloc and the Soviet apparat before and after glasnost + perestroika, and exactly none of it was thanks to Ronnie Rayguns.
      Addendum: it is possible that accelerated defense spending and posturing on the Afghanistan conflict led to overcommitment of resources at the wrong time on the Soviets’ part, but their economy was already overextended on military hardware, so even that’s really a wash.

    • Gayer Than Thou

      I doubt my local library had much to do with it either.

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      Hahahahaaa! That SONG though!!

  • BadKitty904
    • Raan

      Well, now that you mention it…

  • JohnBull

    Hey, guys. Just came back from four months in Korea. Anything interesting going on here?

    • which Korea?

      • JohnBull

        The sane one. The one that is trying to pass a $8 minimum wage where 50 years ago that was a weekly salary. No joke!

        • Oblios_Cap

          The one that was a dictatorship until 1987?

    • Permit-holder Ron

      Not much. How were things there? Anything going on across the border?

  • Daredevil

    The really funny thing is how right-wingers always say “celebrities should keep their mouths shut and stay out of politics” when they criticize Donald Trump, but then the two people that republicans always prop up, Reagan and Trump, were basically celebrities themselves before being elected.

    • Canis Greyhame

      But then they want to know what Scott Baio and James Woods have to say about things.

      • Daredevil

        Don’t forget Tim “being a conservative in Hollywood is like living in 1930’s Germany” Allen.

        • JohnBull

          If this were truly 1930s Germany, he’d still be in jail on that drug charge or worse.

        • Robbertjan Brandenburg

          I have watched outdoor man a couple of times now and it really is on par with all in the family with a modern day archie bunker except there seems to be no irony there. Just the celebration of a republican family with the main protagonist saying all kinds of shitty Things receiver nu laughter from the middle america crowd normalising some really racist shit.

        • Carpe Vagenda

          Is it wrong that it’s just made me love Galaxy Quest that much more?

        • Rick Hill

          Who knew he was just wishing out loud?

      • YoBunnyBunny

        Pfft… worse still that want to know what the Duck Dynasty and Duggar clans have to say!

    • JohnBull

      The difference is our liberal celebrities could act.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        See: Paul Newman, Robert Redford, for just two examples.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      Senator George Murphy, Senator Claire Booth Luce, Senator Fred Thompson, Congressman Sonny Bono, Congressman Fred “Gopher” Grandy, Ambassador Shirley Temple Black (fun fact: Reagan blackballed her from Republican politics because he was still pissed about how grossed out people were by him when they did her first onscreen kiss), Ambassador John Gavin, Governor Jesse Ventura, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, Mayor Clint Eastwood…

      • Red Bird

        Because only an actor can project that much BS.

      • Shibusa

        So a college classmate of mine was an intern for some US Representative on Capitol Hill back in the day and ended up in an elevator with Rep “Gopher” Grandy. My classmate–hand poised over the elevator keypad–said, “Promenade deck?” Grandy tried to get him fired.

        • Carpe Vagenda

          I never had the impression from watching him on his show that he had any sense of humor to speak of.

    • valgalky23
  • Thou shalt make no craven image before me.

  • DerrickWildcat
    • Villago Delenda Est

      Notice, please, who was top billed.

    • Raan

      Wasn’t there an advertisement for this movie in Back to the Future, when Marty goes back to 1955?

  • Carpe Vagenda

    jhca thank you. I’ve been watching the usual suspects pretend Republican racism just sprang from the forehead of Orange Zeus all week. What the fuck is wrong with these people?

    • the blind passing braille notes in front of the sighted.

    • Manders

      Amen. Every election (until recently) I look at the Republican candidates and ask myself, “Could I vote for one of these people?” And then I remember recent history, and I wonder *why* they’ve chosen to be Republicans. I just can’t. I don’t think I will ever be able to. That party has a lot of work to do before I can associate them with anything besides some truly evil shit.

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        I don’t understand why they denounce racism when their base loves them for it. They’ve been trading on it for years. It’s brand identity.

  • Marla

    Urkel was fucking annoying.

  • Permit-holder Ron

    As support for the holiday gained momentum in 1981 and 1982, Reagan vehemently opposed the idea, arguing… that “we could have an awful lot of holidays if we start down that road.”

    Not that it has anything to do with the matter at hand, but when is it a BAD idea to have a lot of holidays?

    • You WOULD say that, you lousy taker! Now, kiss the corporate boot like a good wageslave!

    • but when is it a BAD idea to have a lot of holidays?

      Slavery?

    • Alan

      You want people to work hours like those lazy French?

  • georgiaburning

    Under Reagan, the FCC opened up the radio station ownership rules, allowing companies to own multiple stations in the same city. This enabled right-wing talk radio to blanket the country as they could buy out any competition

  • James Dean once Citizens arrested Reagan for Racism, but he got musta got off on a technicality…
    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/enhanced/webdr05/2013/5/18/13/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14506-1368897700-7.gif

    The Welfare Queen left the scene

  • MynameisBlarney

    Figures the fuckin nazis would shoop images from their fucking riot.

    https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029471207

  • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

    An acquaintance of mine once observed that “Americans don’t like their politicians to be mean”
    Well of course you can be mean and cruel, but you can’t SOUND mean.
    Reagan was an expert at being mean without sounding mean. Trump, on the other hand, specializes in mean- it’s his calling card.

  • Marla

    Macho, macho man…This is tune is more relevant than ever
    https://youtu.be/m-F_hOL_nw8

    Acted like an actor Hollyweird.

    • Fun with Cthulhu

      Not enough upfists for this.

  • h4rr4r

    A presenter on fox news is surprised the nazis who watch foxnews don’t like her calling them out?
    Who did she think was watching?

  • FZsdaughter

    Rebecca you made my day. Reagan was the reason I left the U.S. back in the day, and Reagan is the truest forefather of these Trumpcunts today. Anyone who calls him a “good” republican is either totally ignorant, deceitful or greedy — and it’s no coincidence that those are the defining characteristics of Trump’s “base”.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      That would be all current members of the GOP.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Poor widdle snowflakes.
    They kicked a hornets nest and are now blaming the hornets for getting stung.

    https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141845163

    • Red Bird

      Good. They thought they were going to take a victory lap.

  • Zonath

    Now this has got to be the nicest public toilet in all of Southern California:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/76f055073940d0e18e621c1f021de465e1287e1febafd9fccda8f7c9ad580af4.jpg

    • Red Bird

      ugh….

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Video monitored 24/7/365 to make sure it’s not put to proper use.

      • Zonath

        So how did they bury that big pile of shit there?

  • Mavenmaven

    And, of course, his commemorating the dead Nazi officers at Bitburg.

  • marxalot

    Also also also: when Black people in Oakland and LA decided to start legally carrying guns to defend themselves against and intervene in police brutality, who imediately saw the light as brought to him by an Oakland assemblyman, that is, that the Second Amendment is sacred unless you’re Black?

    • Some of these guys were my role models while growing up in the Bay Area back when. I am who I am as an adult because of their profound influence on me with regard to identifying and calling out systemic racism in our society.

      I’m not a football fan here in NC, but I am a Panther’s fan.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1502ca5b1eeed82f4e2e79f859f147c881f063986bccbee6ccd1e9d41dd7a0b3.jpg

      • marxalot

        Comrade Mom and Running Dad lived in Oakland, as they put it “between the Hell’s Angels and crack”– that is, ’76-’80 or thereabouts. Running Dad was at Berkeley before he got sick, and then they hung around because he could get to a doctor there. The Panthers were still running their breakfast and education programs then, so my early indoctrination in separatism and mutual aid outside of the State was stories about the Panther Party.

        • I got to know Eldridge Cleaver after he was a “free” man and would listen in awe to his stories about the struggles he and many others faced in those hot times.

      • good thing they didn’t find the enemy.

      • HorseChestnut

        Do you remember when the Black Panthers were on The Partridge Family? Weird, good times.

        • I do not! That would be a nice youtube for open thread however!

  • Persistent Demme

    And Bitburg!
    Don’t forget Bitburg!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitburg_controversy

  • geoffalnutt

    Exciting news!!!!! Ronald Reagan is still dead!!! Wahoo!!!

  • Atheist

    His speech was about “states’ rights,” which is not very secret code for “states’ rights to own black people.”

    Welp, now we all know why conservatives insist on “allowing states to choose.” This rhetoric has also fueled the right’s war against abortion and gay marriage. It’s anti-progress as always.

    Did I mention Texas has just required women to purchase rape insurance with NO EXCEPTIONS. Fetal abnormality? Fuck you. Incest? Fuck you. Just fuck you women just because you are women. Did we mention there’s only like two abortion clinics left open in the ENTIRE STATE of Texas? Because fuck you women.

    https://www.dailydot.com/irl/texas-rape-insurance-law/

  • MynameisBlarney

    Ladies and gents.
    I present to you now for your harshly ridiculing pleasure…

    *pulls back curtains*

    The 2017 poster boy for WATB nazi bitches.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/im-terrified-neo-nazi-blubbers-like-a-baby-in-video-reporting-hes-wanted-for-arrest-in-charlottesville/?comments=disqus

    • Atheist

      smh@Nazis who think they can ever possibly be peaceful and law abiding.

      Nazi is the exact opposite of peaceful and law abiding. 11 million murdered should have told them that.

      • Raan

        Plus all those killed in World War II.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      He’s afraid the cops will kill him.

      Now he knows what it’s like to be blah and have your vehicle break down on the side of the highway.

      • MynameisBlarney

        No.
        Now he’s starting to get the 1st inkling oh what that’s like.
        If he actually KNEW, he’d be catatonic.

    • The Wanderer

      BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

    • puredog

      Gosh, I dunno, he seems nice.

  • chazmanr

    Huffington Post, are you referring to the “Strapping young bucks buying steaks on foodstamps” Ronald Reagan, or the mythical one?

  • btwbfdimho
    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      Is it racist to lick a black man’s forehead? Asking for Nancy.

    • Raan

      Nancy looks like she’s asking Santa T for “that crazy Mandingo love”.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      “Just say NO!”

      • btwbfdimho

        Just say YES to Mandingo!

        • Villago Delenda Est

          I watched this on HBO back in the 70’s, and my mom was disgusted when the young massa said a prayer before he jumped into the bed with the wench.

        • thixotropic jerk

          Which you know she did plenty of times ol’ Nan had a reputation as the best oral…interpreter in Hollywood.

    • foiled again

      “Wow, you’re heavier than you appear. To what does one ascribe that illusion?”

  • Raan

    I vehemently disagree.

    Urkel is funny if you’re 6-10 years old when Family Matters is anchoring ABC’s TGIF lineup.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      Do the “Urk-Man”!

      True fact: I had one of those talking Urkel pull-string toys back in the day. It said “Did I do that?” and “Got any cheese?” and did the snort-laugh thing he did.

      • Raan

        Also True Fact: So did I.

    • Red Bird

      That show was one of my favorites too.

    • blaid droog

      Smithers, fire up the old DuMont and let’s time travel.

    • theblackdog

      Guilty as charged, though I realize the episodes I remember much more clearly are episodes not focused around Urkel.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Ayup. ‘Trix nails it again with those stubborn facts that the shitty grade Z movie star griped about.

  • arglebargle

    So the little black kid is never funny and the white lady is always funny?

    You’re the real racist, Rebecca. Oh, and both sides do it, or something.

  • Steven R Freedman

    Becca, you’re the best. Really. I mean it.

  • Michael Smith

    Precisely, yes. The GOP has been the official party of racists since 1968, when Nixon realized he could rescue the party from its terminal post-New Deal decline by capitalizing on the alienation of racists from the Democratic Party after its support of civil rights legislation as the natural next step for progress. Although the GOP didn’t want to be seen as openly disavowing racial equality, which, for the time being, had become a kind of bipartisan issue, they developed insinuations and innuendo that capitalized on racism while mostly keeping it on the down-low.

    Now the necessity of keeping racism on the down-low is longer present, as racists the country over have been able to talk to each other on the internet and realize that they aren’t alone. I remember in the 1990’s, racists in Western PA might say something like “In the old days, we would say ‘don’t go to that park because its a black park, but now we aren’t allowed to say that,'” insinuating that they were one of the last remaining honest, no political correctness Americans. They didn’t realize how many others felt the same way they did, and so they were kept somewhat quiet through shame and fear. Now they realize all too well how many people agree with them.

    So yeah, Reagan had a bit more tact and used dog whistles rather than open declarations of support for white supremacy. But that’s because in his day, racists were still ashamed. Now they aren’t, so Trump doesn’t have to be sneaky about his bigotry.

    I guess this kind of leads to a chicken and egg question: Were dog whistles required back then because leaders didn’t want to appear racist, or because their supporters would have balked at more open declarations? And now, are leaders more open about their racism because they are more irresponsible than leaders of 30 years ago, or because their supporters no longer require any pretense?

    • Actually since July 2, 1964.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Yup, the southern strategy started with Barry Goldwater and his ‘states rights’ campaign

  • andyshelt

    FFS. Even Dubya (and his daddy) has now managed to condemn the fascists in the strongest possible terms which puts Trump’s failure into even starker relief.

    Although Obama’s response shows just how far the office of President has fallen since the election of Trump and demonstrates what a real President should actually say in response to these events.

    https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/896523232098078720

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/16/george-w-hw-bush-statement-bigotry-antisemitism-trump

  • WIDTAP

    Translation: “I can’t get business people to back me anymore.”

    Rather than putting pressure on the businesspeople of the Manufacturing Council & Strategy & Policy Forum, I am ending both. Thank you all!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 16, 2017

    • They got tired of hearing Trump talk about himself?

      • armed_bears

        That thing right there.

    • thixotropic jerk

      Except you just tweeted you would replace whoever left!?!? Get your lies straight at least you racist orange swamp thing!

  • Lyly Sirivong

    Trump makes very bad people look good. Thanks for reminding us how terrible a person Reagan was.

  • I don’t think many people noticed back in 1984 that concussions make you do crazy things…

    Muhammad Ali Switches His Support to Reagan
    http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/03/us/campaign-notes-muhammad-ali-switches-his-support-to-reagan.html

  • Jamoche

    Hey Rebecca, there’s no actual link under “Just ask those libtards at the libtarded “Library of Congress.”)” – the url part is this sentence instead: “During the course of his career, he reversed his stand as a nationalist and advocated states’ rights as a means of preserving slavery in the South.”

    • rebecca

      thx hon. fixed!

  • Wookie Monster

    Also, as governor, Saint Reagan was for gun control, but only because black people were also open carrying around the capital building.

    • foiled again

      Wait, Black Panthers can also have guns? That’s different, then.

  • IdRatherBeDancing

    Yes, the whole Reagan revisionism is a bit barf inducing.

    • Blackest Noobs

      he IS their patron saint….so go figure.

      our patron saints usually are not assholes.

      • The Wanderer

        Saint Hunter, Patron Saint of Snark,

        • Eileen Besse

          One of my idols….

  • Cornelius Fussbudget
  • andyshelt

    OK a question for everyone.

    I would personally like to see Trump driven out of office because of a moral backlash against his support for neo-Nazis or by being impeached for his treasonous collusion with Putin and Russia.

    However, after the events of Charlottesville, I just want him gone and I’d be perfectly happy for the “Al Capone” solution whereby he was convicted of tax evasion rather than the brutal crimes that he should have actually have been held to account for.

    Hopefully, Mueller can uncover at least some evidence of white-collar crime by Trump that will be enough rope to (metaphorically!) hang him with whether that’s money laundering or other dubious financial dealings in his business affairs.

    What do you think? Is it enough to just get rid of Trump by any means at this stage or does it have to be for the right reasons to get rid of the poison of his presidency completely and for it to be a lesson for the GOP to at least try to reclaim their party from the “deplorables”?

    • Jeff Ackerman

      As a matter of strategy I think the longer this goes on the more Republicans he will drag down with him. People need to get to the boiling point to really make change, we are just simmering right now. Trump is held harmless on a lot of things. We are being set back on progress, but if the Dems don’t have a majority it will be very hard to undo a lot of the things Trump, and the R’s have done.

      • foiled again

        When you’re right, you’re right. I want the human stain gone immediately, but if the process dragging out interminably helps to salt the earth re. Republicanism, the longer it will then take for the next Trumpism to slither into view.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      I’d be fine with him [redacted] or even [redacted] as long as he’s no longer in the White House.

    • puredog

      I don’t think it matters. However valid and on-point the reasons are for his removal, he will still be a martyr to the, I dunno, 25%? At this point I don’t give a flying fuck. IRS, RICO, live boy, dead girl, pee showers, whatever.

  • hudson srinivasan

    at this point i would take a reagan to a trump, every single time on every single issue. bar none.

    • armed_bears

      Yeah… but check responses to my comments down thread. Not a Popular Thought at the moment. But on point, to my thinking.

      • hudson srinivasan

        ok will do. is it the one about sheep?

        • armed_bears

          More the one about my full throated defense of Reagan’s racism… which is sorta Not a Thing. But anyway, the goats are full to look at instead.

    • ALP

      Really? The guy who deregulated everything? The guy who closed mental institutions creating the homeless problem? The guy who created trickle-down economics? Trump is an asshole but he’s just a padawan to Reagan’s Darth Vader.

      That dumbass also spent billions on fucking Star Wars that never worked.

      • armed_bears

        THAAD says what, now?

      • hudson srinivasan

        yeah really. i’m not very sophisticated. imo the guy who is doing harm now to people living around me now, trumps the guy who did harm way back then.

        • Sakonyachen

          Reagan is the cause of most things that are harming people right now.

          Here’s a metaphor for you. Lincoln is credited with freeing the slaves because of the Civil War. John Brown literally killed Slavers before there was a war. He ended up failing at a half-baked idea of robbing the Harpers Ferry Armory and being hung for treason. That started an escalation of the debate, and he wasn’t even president.

          Reagan popularized half the dog whistles that Rs use with their racist base, pulled the Christians under the Republican tent, slashed regulations, sold weapons and cocaine in the same treasonous action, lied about all of it, and was more racist than Trump. That’s how Reagan is still hurting people through the racist framework he created. Just like how John Brown was more responsible for the abolition of slavery than Lincoln. Brown used his own sword in actual combat, while Lincoln sent others to fight with his pen. Reagan created the alt-right, Trump just used them to get where he is. If we hadn’t had a Neo-Nazi president in the 80’s, we wouldn’t have so many Neo-Nazis now.

          Trump is Reagan’s creation, and Republicans need to be called on their bullshit every time they invoke Saint Ronnie while denouncing Trump.

        • ALP

          Christ, way back then? Dude, read a book. Reagan created Trump. There would be no Trump without Reagan’s policies.

  • Blackest Noobs

    whitey never noticed Reagan was a racist but then whitey was white so why in the fuck he/she care…amiright…amiright.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Crackers gonna … crack, I guess?

    • Zyxomma

      Well, not all white people qualify as whitey then. Many of us (well, I’m Jewish so I guess I don’t count as white) knew exactly what he was and couldn’t stand him.

      • Sakonyachen

        Whitey is definitely not all white people. My friend Ira(who is black) likes to get me(white enough not to be followed around the store) going on issues of race around his family and friends that don’t know me yet. The look on their faces usually goes from “awkwaaaaard!” , to “oh great, here comes the I don’t see color speech”, to “Calm down Nat Turner!”

        You might be surprised how many black folks are happy to ignore the truth, as long as they still get to have a little more than others. Do they count as whitey? Right up until they get followed around the store or their son wants to marry a white girl

  • andyshelt

    Justin Moore, the grand dragon for the Loyal White Knights of the KKK in Pelham, told CBS affiliate WBTV on Tuesday:
    “I’m sorta glad that them people got hit and I’m glad that girl died,”

    OK Donnie, baby steps and all that, but would you say Justin Moore is one of the “very fine” people you think were amongst the torch carrying fascists at Charlottesville or if he is one of those that should be condemned. Take your time, fuckwad, as I know this is difficult for you what with being a lying racist prick and all that.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kkk-grand-dragon-charlottesville_us_599457e1e4b009141641c054?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

  • blaid droog

    It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Wait, it never was the best of times. It was always the age of foolishness. Forever and ever. Amen.

    • foiled again

      “It was the fucked of times, it was the shitty of times.”

  • Jennifer R

    Ronald Reagan was the first assault of the modern far racist right.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_8E3ENrKrQ

    • Other Chris

      I wonder if the rights to his story are locked down or something. That creep’s rise and fall would make for one hell of a movie.

      • Zyxomma

        I just checked for characters named Lee Atwater on the internet movie database. There’s a 2009 movie called Little Devil, but the library doesn’t have it so I’ll probably never see it. If you’re one of those Netflix people, see if they have it.

  • foiled again

    Boy, thanks for the trip down memory lane, Wonkette.

    And thank you, Ronald Reagan’s corpse, for radicalizing me at 18.

    • puredog

      Yeah, it never ceases to amaze me when people won’t call out RR for the complete and utter asswipe he was. I was there. He was a complete and utter asswipe, and Version 1.0 of the phenomenon “We elected whom? You mean, that utter unqualified moronic asswipe?” (See Jesse Ventura, Sarah Palin, Donald Trump. . . .Kid Rock?)

      • Steve-o

        Gawd help us if Kid Rock gets in. Then I think we need to burn the constitution and start over.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Reagan was a first class piece of shit who has befouled the US to this day

      • Sakonyachen

        Dems can talk openly about the failures of the Carter administration, despite the fact that he has spent his life since then redeeming himself.

        Somehow Republicans find it impossible to remember Reagan for anything other than being conservative, despite the fact that he would drop all conservative ethos the second they interfered with his true ideals.

  • Steve-o

    Well look he wanted to meet with the Black Caucus, but that lady wouldn’t set it up for him.

  • gene108

    Reagan, in his defense, knew enough to make sure people understood “Nazi’s bad”.

    Really, really low bar to clear.

    We fought a war against Nazis. We won. We then found out they were worse than we imagined.

    “Nazis bad” is like the base line of what any American politician should be able to say without any hesitation.

    • Lazy Media

      Reagan knew Nazis were bad from the scripts of the movies he worked on in the ’40s.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      “We fought a war against Nazis. We won.”

      That SHOULD have been what Trump said on Sunday.

      We fought the Confederates and won. We fought hte NAZIs and won.
      These people can say what they like, but we fought wars over their beliefs.”

    • Jonathan Roth
      • gene108

        Yeah, but he didn’t double down on Bitburg. It was bad. He goofed. He let it go.

        The general theme of Nazis bad was still intact.

  • Jennaratrix

    God, THANK YOU. I’ve been scrolling by the Ronald Reagan clips on FB and Twitter and rolling my eyes so hard I gave myself a headache; I just didn’t have the time or the patience to school everyone who wants to love all over Reagan. Now I can just link this article.

  • Mavenmaven

    And of course this. https://youtu.be/6lIqNjC1RKU

    • Alternative Dog

      And this also, too:

      https://youtu.be/xSOp507HJMA

    • Zyxomma

      I never saw/heard that before; I rarely listen to contemporary music. I too would be glad Reagan is dead except that now he’s St. Ronnie according to every single Republican, and they keep naming shit after him. He disgusted me.

  • Calimaria

    Reagan originated young bucks and welfare queens with Cadillacs, did he not? But he knew enough to not trust the KGB and the Nazis which seems too high a bar for Trumputin.

  • whitroth

    About MLK: you know what finally pushed that friggin’ KKK-er to assassinate him? What he was doing in Memphis was *worse* than being an uppity black… he’d come there to support a union strike. Unions. In the South. Supported by blacks!

    That could not pass those racist shit-filled scum…..

    • Lazy Media

      Pretty sure James Earl Ray just did it for the money, paid to him by the St. Louis KKK. True white trash usually aren’t that political; politics is more of a middle-class thing.

  • Manhattan123

    Reagan had more dog whistles than Cesar Millan.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Wait, are we talking about the same Saint Ronnie who ignored the inner city crack epidemic (and likely stoked it via the CIA flooding those cities with Contra supplied cocaine)? Are we talking about the same Reagan who vehemently opposed sanctions against South Africa and vetoed the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act of 1986 , only to have that veto overridden? Naw, not racist at all…

    • theblackdog

      It wasn’t racism, but also the same Saint Ronnie who giggled while gay men were dying of what would later be known as AIDS.

    • phoenix00

      Also chucked American troops into Grenada a la GW Shrub:

      https://youtu.be/jIRDidFqOEo?t=26m43s

  • arensb

    It’s just that Ronald Reagan knew how to actually pivot, when people got mad at him for saying the quiet parts out loud.

    That, and I’ve heard from people who actually met him that he could be quite charming in person.

    • Alternative Dog

      Many sociopaths are quite charming.

      • arensb

        May I offer you some lotion, my dear? Or perhaps the hose?

        • Alternative Dog

          Yeah, that’s their true nature but they are experts at mimicking genuine human emotions. So good in fact, that in most personal encounters they come across as more empathetic than the average person. That’s why they are so dangerous.

  • Lazy Media

    THANK YOU. I have known youngs who were babies in the ’80s express admiration for Reagan, even though they are half-a-commie alt-lefters. I tried to disabuse them of the “aw, grandpa” notions about him that their selfish, racist parents had instilled. They were surprised to learn that liberals of my generation fucking HATED that piece of shit.

    • OTB

      I was there, and yes he was a vile piece of shit, an exceptionally petty and spiteful little man. Still the most indicted administration in history, iirc.

    • Catstro

      At the time Reagan died, my grandma had been using a wheelchair for a couple of years due to a series of strokes. When she found out he died, she asked for her walker, hauled herself up, and danced a little jig. She said some things that would probably break the rules for radicals, also too. This woman wouldn’t let us have jellybeans at Easter because they were his favorite candy. I feel like not enough 6 year olds in the 80s had grandmas that were more than happy to explain how much the president hated poor and sick people.

      • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

        i stopped eating jellybeans because of that fucker…havent had one since

    • HarpyLibtart

      See, I don’t remember my parents ever saying anything in particular against Reagan, but somehow I grew up reflexively sneering at the sound of his name – until now I did not realize there were so many good reasons why, thanks Wonkette!

  • Begin Anew Day

    THIS is why money sent to Wonkette can be considered an investment in the truth which is the only safe investment strategy for people with souls.

    • Zyxomma

      I have no moneys to invest, but I hope you’re being arch and snarky, because there are ethical and sustainable investment funds.

      • There are fine people in the non-ethical and non-sustainable investment funds, too.

  • Alternative Dog

    And he happily threw the 2nd amendment under the bus when blacks started arming themselves in California.

  • OTB

    Thank you. I’m so sick of this revisionist shit. (Unless of course you want to talk about what a suave studmuffin I was in high school.)

  • The Librarian

    Jesus, Rebecca, get it straight! Libtards at the Library of Congress are librarytards. I shouldn’t have to explain this.

  • Ellie

    My children still recall finding me sitting on the floor in front of the television, wine glass in one hand and tissues in the other, weeping, “The old fart is going to win.” That scene was repeated four years later. I’ll give him this, it was under his administration that we started “Obamaphones.”

    • GunToting[Redacted]

      Substitute “glass of wine” for “bottle of bourbon,” “Children” for “cats,” and that was me in November. Oh, and “the old fart is going to win” for “MOTHERFUCKER! That racist, idiot piece of wombat shit is going to steal this fucker.”

      • phoenix00

        Wombat libelz!!!

      • Keith Taylor

        WOMBAT SHIT LIBELZ!!!

  • theblackdog

    These are many of the reasons why my parents (and most DC Locals) refer to DCA by its previous name of “National”

    Well these and because my mom ended up “RIFed by Reagan”

  • thixotropic jerk

    Not to mention although it may already have been how pro gun Raygún was until those Negro Cougar People showed up in Sacramento all open carryin’ and shit.

    • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

      oh…uhh…i’m sorry if i ruined your black panther party….

  • guest

    ACTUALLY Ronald Reagan Was Racist AF

    Of course he was.

  • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

    so, st ronnie thought the VRA was ‘humiliating to the south’?…MORE…MORE VRA…MORE HUMILIATION OF THE SOUTH…that’s the problem with those fuckers, they werent humilated anywhere near enough

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      As a Southerner, I have to vehemently agree with you. We should never have been given the privilege of voting. If felons can’t vote, why can traitors?

      • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

        actuallyyyyy….that would have been a great idea during reconstruction…no southern voting for 20 or 40 yrs after the civil war…ohwell, water under the dam/bridge at this point

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          Im talking about right now. Were the only idiots in the world who celebrate a war we lost.

          • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

            cant argue with that!

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      i was gonna say, “as humiliating a losing a civil war it instigated that cost hundreds of thousands of lives?”

      • dshwa

        Did they lose, really, in the end? 50 years of Jim Crow, 100 years of segregation and lynching, 150 and counting of racial disparities in the criminal justice system, people flying the treason flag, monuments everywhere to the leaders. If the aliens showed up and looked around, who do you think they’d believe won?

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          “Did they lose, really, in the end?”

          Lee surrendered, the union was reunited, and slavery is illegal.

          The rest are on the “To Do” list.

  • foog

    Sad that the truth about Reagan actually needs pointing out. It was NOT that fucking long ago, dammit! (either that or I have to admit that I am really that old, dammit!)

    • Keith Taylor

      I absolutely am that old! Will turn 71 in December. But. The nice thing about that, is that I’ve now been married to a totally fantastic woman (don’t get me started, I tend to rave) for all of thirty years and I’m tons happier than when I was twenty. So hooray.
      But concerning Reagan — it was pretty plain that he was a nasty piece of work when he was only Governor of California. I recall how he gloated that Angela Davis wouldn’t be an academic in his state any longer, when she made the FBI’s most wanted list.
      It’s lamentable that he gets the credit with many for ending the Cold War and bringing down the Berlin Wall. If right-wingers would only check out the facts and believe them (I know, and if only the Easter Bunny was real) they might reach the conclusion that the Soviet Union’s disaster in Afghanistan, followed by a hard economic body blow from Saudi Arabia when it glutted the oil market and severely dropped the price of crude at a time when the U.S.S.R. was pumping it in disregard of OPEC quotas, had more to do with the Russians yielding Eastern Europe than Reagan did.

  • phoenix00

    Not only that, he needlessly threw American troops into Grenada on trumped-up anti-Communist context:
    https://youtu.be/jIRDidFqOEo?t=26m43s

  • valgalky23
  • SeeTrain65

    NEVER FORGET: Gun control was A-OK with Ronnie when black people had the guns.

  • It mattered in 1982 if you expressed your racism too clearly. It mattered in 2002 if you were too blatant in your racism. It doesn’t matter today.

  • DonnaDiva

    Reagan reanimated as Ronnie the Paul Ryan Clone in 2010 in some red district in the Midwest spouting Ronald Reagan’s exact lines against Medicare would be serving his fourth term now. “He’d never be accepted in today’s GOP!”, my ass.

  • Keith Taylor

    We don’t have to wait for Martin Luther King Jr’s FBI file to be unsealed. We know already how the FBI, as personified and led by Hoover, felt about him. Hoover’s feud with King was vicious and dangerous and wholly without principle. He was convinced King was a Communist and a threat to glorious white conservative America, and tried to blackmail him and drive him to suicide over personal scandal.
    I don’t know or care if Hoover was gay, or a cross-dresser, as some think. For what my opinion’s worth, I suspect that even if he was basically gay, he never did anything active about it, because his image as a great All-American crime fighter and hero was overwhelmingly more important to him than sex. Sublimation. That good old sublimation. Not really relevant, but I suspect too that a number of those great squeaky-clean asexual Victorian heroes sublimated their gay urges into exploring and soldiering, and were incredibly brave because they didn’t really care if they died young, being so bloody unhappy.
    Whatever his motives, Hoover was a thorough prick, judging by his actions. And whatever his faults, King was a great and courageous man who did a lot of good and fought injustice.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      I’m thinking, on PAPER it was all about King’s insurgence…but does anybody really believe Hoover wasn’t a goddamn out and out rascist? And the whole communism thing was either icing on the cake or a cover?

      • Keith Taylor

        Hoover probably WAS a goddamned out and out racist. Racists were using the “Communist” slur as a cover on all occasions. Black civil rights were a Communist-inspired insurrection, and coloured people would still have been perfectly happy, the way they were under slavery, if Communists agitators hadn’t poisoned their minds (they are just so childlike and susceptible!) “I’m not a racist and I don’t hate King because he’s an uppity black. I hate him because he’s a goddamned Communist agent and enemy of America.”
        Yeah, I can hear that going through Hoover’s mind, audibly, as I think about it.

        • Bitter Scribe

          This is why the movie “Mississippi Burning,” where FBI agents are portrayed as the good guys in the civil rights struggle, makes me crazy. The FBI under Hoover didn’t do shit to protect the rights of black Americans because they were too busy wiretapping, spying on, and trying to blackmail Martin Luther King.

    • zendoo

      Well, MLK and Malcolm X were both shot shortly after they started talking about human rights, international law, and the UN. They became a threat to the state, so the state killed them. Or at least that’s how I perceive the history, from what I know.

      • Keith Taylor

        MLK was killed by a state conspiracy, or so I think, just like you. King’s family believe the alleged killer, James Earl Ray, didn’t do it, which is pretty impressive. Maybe he didn’t. But Malcolm X was evidently killed by former associates in the Nation of Islam after he broke with it, bitterly disappointed in the moral conduct of his former mentor and leader, Elijah Mohammed. That’s what I reckon the facts show, and it’s much too familiar a sad story where religious leaders are concerned. They rarely seem to fall anywhere near the sexual mean. They’re either strictly celibate — or conspicuously the reverse!

  • William
  • Bitter Scribe

    Thank you for this! It makes me crazy when Reagan is portrayed as some sort of benign, rational Republican statesman. He was a stone racist, he was elected due to racism, and he laid the foundation for the racist appeals that have sustained Republicans to this day.

    I’m old enough to remember when Reagan was thought of as a dolt and a nut, someone so abysmally ignorant that the prospect of him becoming President was unthinkable. Sound familiar?

    • zendoo

      I was born in 1980, and I remember the prevailing attitude on TV at the time being that he was a heartless, racist asshole. Almost nobody ever liked Regan. It’s a complete fantasy.

      • Fish Fast

        He won 49 states in the 1984 election in, like, one of the biggest landslides ever? Probably because America was and is full of people who like racist assholes?

  • fawkedifiknow

    RE: MLK, Jr. a commie symp.

    Guilt by association is for liberals only. Right wingers actually marching with people carrying Nazi flags? How dare the media call them Hitlerites!!

  • Magic Juan

    Sadly a lot of white folks still are, if not openly, it’s more like they speak of it when no blacks are around and they think because you white you are too. I’m all the time telling folks I disagree when they say something like, well what do you expect he’s black and you know how blacks are.

  • ronbo

    Agreed! Now, can label his crazy economic theories crazy – too crazy for even neoliberals: trickle-down (TARPs failed miserably), privatization of education/healthcare/prisons, and deregulation of Banking?

    “The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican,” quoting President Obama. He is proud of this… https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12300000

    It’s been almost a decade and 99% are still un-recovered. Democrats must admit the truth BEFORE moving forward with more Reaganomics under the guise of identity politics.

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