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Gather ’round the campfire, everyone, for Glenn Greenwald has a Very Serious Question:

Oh golly. That’s a hard one. Let’s get out our abacus and some scratch paper and weigh the pros and cons.

Greenwald, who likes to remind his readers every now and then (constantly) that he really really really really really doesn’t like America, and who is in theory a liberal who embraces liberal values, but totally isn’t, is just not sure whether Donald Trump’s plans to rip healthcare away from millions, deport the fuck out of every brown-skinned person he sees, and so on, are worse than the generals — Mattis, McMaster and Kelly — SUBVERTING TRUMP’S AGENDA by sneakily getting appointed to sweet-ass cabinet and White House positions by Donald Trump, and then sort of trying to rein in some of President Fuck-Bonkers’s most dangerous tendencies.

Oh and he’s mad about the Deep State, because of course he is. Greenwald spends a lot of his column beating a straw man to death, claiming that all the sane people who HAAAAAATE Trump, many of them conservatives who worked tirelessly to keep him from getting elected, and who have been in “COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY, MOTHERFUCKERS” mode since Greenwald’s pals at WikiLeaks and the Russians he is SO IN LOVE WITH (he would deny that accusation, but ya know, actions speak louder than words, and also fuck him) helped Trump get elected, think Greenwald and his weirdo friends are dumb for believing there is a “Deep State.” This is a false construct. We very much know there is a Deep State, and we know it makes Greenwald and Sean Hannity shit the bed, so we make fun of them about it.

But he’s really really confused about which is worse: that Trump is in office and beating the shit out of American institutions and the Constitution, or that the so-called Deep State (normal people refer to them as “career public servants”) is trying its damnedest to protect the Republic from Trump’s damage. The horrors! It reminds us of that thing Anthony Scaramucci whined during his 120-some-odd-hour tenure as White House Communications Director, about how there are some White House staffers who “think it is their job to save America from this president.” It’s almost as if there is a wide consensus among thinking Americans that the traditions we hold dear are in danger, and that we should do something about it. (Also, to all those people, thank you!)

But Greenwald can’t abide that, because how DARE the Deep State Military-CIA-Industrial Complex act all high and mighty like they for real care about protecting America from the authoritarian dipshit in the White House, when it’s very clear that #BothSidesDoIt anyway? How could Donald Trump possibly be more evil than the United States Of America has always been since forever?

No matter how much of a threat one regards Trump as being, there really are other major threats to U.S. democracy and important political values. It’s hard, for instance, to imagine any group that has done more harm, and ushered in more evil, than the Bush-era neocons with whom Democrats are now openly aligning. And who has brought more death, and suffering, and tyranny to the world over the last six decades than the U.S. national security state?

Is it really hard to imagine any group that’s hurt people more than the Bush era neocons? What kind of pathetic What-About-Ism is this, GLENN? Is it not possible to simultaneously believe that the neocons empowered by George W. Bush did a lot of really bad shit (and that America in general has some blood on its hands), AND ALSO that Russia under Putin, the Rwandan genocide, North Korea, hell, a bunch of Communist governments going way the fuck back, are WORSE? What about ISIS? The dead exploded babies his beloved Russians killed in Aleppo?

HOW ABOUT FUCKING POL POT, GLENN? IS THAT WORSE?

It’s handy that he only goes back six decades, otherwise he’d have to contend with little things like Hitler and Stalin and oh God what the fuck kind of #SlatePitch would we be reading then?

Don’t get us wrong — we don’t think it’s ideal that generals are in all these positions, or that #DeepState patriots are doing what they’re doing, and during ANY other presidency, we’d probably be appalled. But to use Greenwald’s construction, what president has done more to abuse power and subvert American institutions in his first six months of office than Donald Trump?

Anyway, this is very stupid, and what we’ve come to expect from Greenwald, who also is PRETTY SURE the Trump-Russia story is a buncha lies. As soon as he finds the time, we’re sure his Intercept website will publish a journalism exclusive claiming to have found the 400-pound New Jersey dude Trump always claims REALLY hacked the 2016 election, and we will have to tell him to go fuck himself all over again.

What tedious fuckery.

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  • Villago Delenda Est

    Whataboutism is what Greenwald does. Whataboutism is a classic Soviet disinformation tactic.

    • (((fka_donnie_d)))

      The classic reaction from the Soviet Man on the Street to Foreigners with Pretentious Morals – “A u Vas Tam Negrov Veshayut” – Over There You People Hang N*ggers.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    GG: And who has brought more death, and suffering, and tyranny to the world over the last six decades than the U.S. national security state?

    Glenn forgot the else after “who”. Must not be a Wonkette reader.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Who else? Um, the Chinese in Tibet?

    • JMP

      R U Serious, Stupid Ignoramus Asshole?

  • doktorzoom

    OK, fine, so you can make the case that the Khmer Rouge only came to power because of the instability the US National Security State caused in SE Asia, but it’s late in the afternoon and I’m not in the mood. Maybe to watch Swimming to Cambodia again…

  • Crystalclear12

    His mom shouldn’t have let him out of the basement.

  • spangled

    glenjamin should go back to what he’s good at: burning his sources.

    • Thiazin Red

      Things he is also good at:

      Writing Mr Glenn Putin in glittery sparkle pen with hearts on his Trapper Keeper.

    • JMP

      Look, that leaker released classified information that reflected badly on Russia, therefore she deserved to be outed by the press organization she leaked that document to!

  • Picabo

    Is this open thread?

  • BadKitty904

    I feel certain that I would be deeply outraged by all this if only I had some idea who “Glenn Greenwald” is.

    • JMP

      A self-righteous egotistical dick who claims to be liberal but constantly reinforces right-wing propaganda, particularly in supporting any action by Vladimir Putin.

      • BadKitty904

        So, a saboteur. Fuck him, then.

    • foiled again

      There is a picture of him in the dictionary next to the phrase “useful fool”.

      See also “chowderhead”.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        At this point, you have to ask yourself if he is just a fool or another Putin compro case?

        Nothing he says makes any fucking sense.

        • foiled again

          “Here’s a kite, Glen. Go fly it.”

  • Jennifer R

    Tedious is being generous to Glenn.

  • schmannity

    I hate to agree with Greenwald, but it apparent that the deep dish is out to destroy Trump. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2bdfc6781cb15e687febed0f0c5c5816328285b7e843ab47228b7e07fae0adb.jpg

    • BadKitty904

      Looks like two pigs fightin’ under a blanket…

      ~ Clairee Belcher, Steel Magnolias

      • schmannity

        A sack of potatoes, tied in the middle.

        –my mother.

      • Seek

        I have always wanted to serve someone a bleeding armadillo cake when it’s my turn to provide the birthday cake at the office. I fear I have gotten too old and no one would get the reference. You have kept my dream alive a while longer…

        • BadKitty904

          Do it! DO IT!!1!

          • Seek

            They’re all much too young to have seen the movie and I would probably get an HR complaint for freaking them out or scaring them.

            AGAIN

          • BadKitty904

            It’s good for them. Tones up their arteries.

          • Vicki Lawrence’s Covfefe

            One: it sounds like there’s a good story in there. TWO: if you don’t introduce them to the gay propaganda, who will?

          • Seek

            We come from much different backgrounds. I’m a holdover from before they re-organized the company which basically consisted of “vertical Integration” into “service centers”. Because of some special requirements for parts of the business I still work part-time for them at exorbitant rates to keep that business running and all the rest of the work is done by fresh out of college newbies who are frightened to death of me.

            My HR complaint was from a 24 yr old young man who I frightened one day. We were discussing accidents or something and he let it be known that he had never been to an ER. I looked at him, asked how old he was and remarked that I had almost killed myself in various ways at least 3 times by the time I was his age. Somehow he took that as a threat that I ( a 50 yr old woman) was going to harm him and put him in the hospital.

            You can see that a bleeding armadillo cake might be a Much-ness for his delicate sensibilities. The Gay Propaganda would not be a problem for them. That kind of thing is safe and sane for them. Damn Millenials! Actually I find them interesting and quirky but they are still very scared of me.

          • AnnieGetYerFun

            I love the idea so much.

    • Manhattan123

      VPL. Visible Pig Line.

    • Ricky Gay

      In tennis they call it a double bagel

    • Trump’s famous fatback-swing

    • JMP

      Who the fuck has passed puberty and still wears titey whities?

      • Lance Thrustwell

        Hey! Sometimes I just like a little… support!

      • shastakoala

        Trump calls them a man girdle.

      • armed_bears

        They come in colors now, too. I hear.

    • Vicki Lawrence’s Covfefe

      I only have so many eyes I can pluck out.

    • foiled again

      Toddler butt.

    • Rags

      And this pic is 15 years old, when he was svelte(-ish).

    • Canis Greyhame

      Yeah you know he eats his pizza with a knife and fork, LIKE AN ANIMAL.
      http://a.fod4.com/misc/Jon%20Stewart%20Pizza%201.gif

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      He’s not wearing underwear in that photo. I’m so glad that there are no shots from the front.

      • FlownΩver

        Why? Nothing there to see. He’s pretty much President Fat Ken Doll.

        • AnnieGetYerFun

          I figure it’s kind of a front butt with more of an indent.

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!
  • Crystalclear12

    Glenn, stop yelling at the firemen, they are busy.
    Next time don’t play with matches!

  • Picabo
  • Reximus

    Glenn should be a shoe-in for the post of Ambassador of Whataboutistan

    • BadKitty904

      I’m asking the same question. Also, who this asshole is.

  • TJ Barke

    Hey Glenn, care to comment on the large increase in civilian bombing casualties since Donnie took over? It’s almost as if he cares about foreigners less…

  • JMP

    What’s force; the fire that’s consuming my house right now, or the fire engine that’s driving over the speed limit while speeding to put it out?

    • Mehmeisterjr

      I am consumed with rage that the Deep Government fire engine totally didn’t break for a speed bump on its way to my house.

      Just for that, I’m going to throw a couple of Molotov cocktails at the blaze.

      For America!

  • memzilla Ω

    Greenwald is echoing exactly the line that Russia Today, Sputnik, and all the other Kremlin-fed media spigots are echoing, and he’s been doing it for a while now. “Whataboutism” is a classic Chekist propaganda tool.

    Curiously timed with more Twitlerings about “fake news.” Now typically, when reporters
    are about to print a story, they first call the White House to get their reaction. Judging from the ferocity of the reaction, my guess is that another onion-dome-shaped bombshell is about to detonate.
    . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ae33383cafef92b92627d3778a1a98f84b59062b3934ae8477e3c1999578235d.jpg

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      And yet, weirdly, I can find all kinds of news stories on the MSM about those sanctions, what they mean, and how can we expect North Korea to react.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        exactly, and how much donnie bitched about the UN and sanctions during the election.

        Did he or Nikki Haley have ANTYHING to do with this other than voting for it?

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    Glenn is starting to sound like a guy who would chastise a dying soldier for jumping on a hand grenade.

  • What’s worse: Greenwald’s racist libertarian past or his authoritarian suck-up present?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dc332f14c6d49c0231a9d68a1bde3892f617a87fa854dcdd6b82c5238254fa89.jpg

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    Speaking of fuckwits and history, A US clothing company has come under fire after T-shirts appeared online featuring swastikas in a move aimed at reclaiming the symbol as one of “love”.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c039cd222eb0666c4156fa12e5c67f8a4b0af37e9f7fab74c68c80318dac664f.jpg

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40848372

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Are we gonna try and reclaim the little toothbrush moustache too?

    • Thiazin Red

      I mean it sucks for people from other cultures where it is a positive symbol, but I think in this case there is no taking it back.

    • BadKitty904

      Nice try, GOP.

      • Wild Cat

        Daily Stormer does T-shirts like this. Innocent images with their logo loudly displayed so nazis can co-identify.

    • (((fka_donnie_d)))

      Nobody ever besmirched the Swastika. Not even Nazis, It’s still in perfectly legitimate use as a Tibetan and Indian religious symbol, the Nazis wanted to be special snowflakes so they used a _mirror image_.

      • h4rr4r

        Hakenkreuz is what the NAZIs used.

        It is mirrored and tilted. The image above is a Hakenkreuz.

        • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

          Gesundheit.

      • amrak63

        http://i.imgur.com/X0hxwHI.jpg

        “Mein Fuehrer, I respectfully suggest we give Lord Ganesh back his symbol.”

        • (((fka_donnie_d)))

          Except, they didn’t but you get the point :).

    • OrG in Amsterdam

      I vote NO.

    • Wild Cat

      This is a sad way to make a living. Plus a Canadian tattoo enthusiast has been doing this for eons (dig up your old copy of ReSearch’s Modern Primatives.)

      If you’re going to wear that shirt, you’d better also wear a multi-paragraphed explanation as to why you shouldn’t be nazi-punched.

    • foiled again

      What in pluperfect fuck?

    • Zonath

      Human creativity being the seemingly boundless well that it is, I just can’t understand how some people feel the need to “reclaim” shit like this. If they really feel the need to reclaim something, they can start by reclaiming this:

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3ed2493c53ca372438560c8f5962852e3fbfd71234878bc92cfbf4b8eb64d023.jpg

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      that’s GOT to be christian trolling cause they luv their rainbow.

  • Jennifer R

    Hah I had the saddest twitter TERF dogpile earlier today. 3 accounts with a thousand followers each TERFing at me and they get all of three likes.

    • h4rr4r

      I know what TERF stands for, yet everytime someone uses it I have to google it again. Then I end up going down some rabbit hole trying to figure out what the hell philosophy that is and BOOM, my brain just breaks.

      It is just nonsense. Totally bonkers nonsense.

      • BJW

        Feminists who don’t believe transgender women are women. Horrible, isn’t it? I would’ve felt it was horrible even if I wasn’t friends with a transgender woman, but that idea then pisses me off EVEN MORE.

        • h4rr4r

          See again, BOOM! I can’t hold conflicting thoughts like this at the same time.

          • BJW

            Yep. Pretty much same way here.

    • Shanzgood

      I feckin hate TERFS.

      • tomamitai

        How about S.E.R.F.s? (Self Educated Radical Fuddy-duddies)

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      They sound fun.

      And by fun, I mean “for fuck’s sake this is what these people spend their lives doing”.

    • Creepoman

      No idea what you are talking about, but it does make me happy that so far, no one in my extended family has purchased a machine for making tweets for my birthday or ramenmas.

      • Jennifer R

        An Anti trans bigot put me on a list and got a couple of his friends to circle around on me.

  • Reximus
    • Villago Delenda Est

      Three vile creatures in the photos behind the nice black ladies.

      • Reximus

        The photo contains 5 vile creatures

      • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

        Why do you hate Wallace Shawn??!

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Grifters gotta grift.

      • Reximus

        They are the worst thing Twitter ever created

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      what is their business and brand? (I mean, besides celebrity Trump supporters?)

  • anon_the_great

    Poor, poor stupid Glenn. Aping BernieBros

  • Manhattan123

    It’s been a while since I’ve heard much from the Bernie/Jill Stein groupies mindset. Thanks for reminding us that they are still out there.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      go over to the Kamala Harris thread…take a bottle of your avatar.

      • Manhattan123

        No no no no no no, haven’t taken my blood pressure med yet today. Anytime I read one of those comment sections about Sen. Harris, I see the same sanctimonious pricks who during the campaign said Hillary was just as bad as Trump, and she gave speeches and Wall Street and yadda yadda.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          yeah, i’m on the BP meds too – and this thing is WAY worse than what you said.

          • BJW

            I was surprised that shitstorm was still howling today. I hung around long enough to block some assholes.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸
  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Tedious Fuckery is the name of my Supply Side Economics PAC.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      I thought it was a floor wax!

      • amrak63

        It is. It’s also a dessert topping!

        • armed_bears

          And a Tenacious D tribute band?

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      Pfft, I was into Tedious Fuckery after they were total sellouts.

  • Wild Cat

    Yes, he’d fuck himself, but only if you pay him. For Glenn is a professional . . . PORN SPY!!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUOXOc68nKY

  • (((fka_donnie_d)))

    Shorter Glenn, The US did some shitty things recently, let’s blow it up, no need to worry about innocent civilian casualties!

  • amrak63

    I see the good Doktor set out some bait for the Purity Flying Monkeys.

    Man the anti-aircraft guns–hell, PHASERS!

    http://i.imgur.com/Ol2GGyY.jpg

    • BJW

      Photon torpedoes!

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      Dok?? You mean Evan, no? Pedant Torpedos away!

      (And I think technically, for those bro’s, it’s “bate”)

  • foiled again

    GG: Effete and impudent snob, or just a plain ol’ weeny? You decide.

  • BadKitty904

    Y’all mind that the Corn Moon rises tonight. Go outside and dance!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR47TZdJg64

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      And exactly two weeks until the Moon is new and the Sun goes dark and cats and dogs will live together.

      • BadKitty904

        I’m sure the Republicans are already preparing the Federal Altar on the National Mall as we speak…

        • tomamitai

          Where hair führer will blame Hillary & Obama for the darkness and then take credit for the Sun’s re-appearance

    • amrak63

      On target, except Covfefe is merely a sock puppet for the real Devil (*cough*Putin*cough*).

    • h4rr4r

      Wow, that drawing is spot on. I know berners who look exactly like that!

      • See it every day. I live in Portland OreBernieBrogon…

        • h4rr4r

          At least you have legal weed to distract you from this.

          Do they vape? Because all ours on the East coast seem to vape.

          • Yep. With attitude: Instead of a monster diesel truck rolling coal, they do the rollin’ vape…pillowing dab vapours pouring out of the side window of a rusted-out Subie.

          • h4rr4r

            Yup, massive clouds.

            At least it does not smell as bad as smoking.

          • (((fka_donnie_d)))

            I have a vape shop down the street, can’t see in the windows even when the door is open.

      • BlissfulScribbler

        I see them all the time also. The only thing inaccurate about the picture is how they’re portrayed in the right panel. In reality, most of them aren’t nearly that concerned and instead have their arm around Trump and are still whinging about ‘both sides do it’, ‘at least he got rid of TPP’, and so forth.

    • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

      no love for Susan Sarandon?

      • amrak63

        Not from me, that’s for damn sure.

      • tomamitai

        She did a good job on last night’s Rick & Morty.

        • King Beauregard

          That’s because she was articulating Dan Harmon’s ideas, not her own.

      • foiled again

        She was great in Atlantic City.
        Apart from that, she should go piss up a rope.

      • Bananas Foster

        Not since Bull Durham.

        • shastakoala

          Not since she let Thelma down.

      • Blackest Noobs

        as an actor…sure..whateves…as a person…eh…not so much.

    • Bananas Foster

      It’s like refusing to drink water when you’re dehydrated…

      Because you’ll only drink Gatorade, damn it!

      • SDGeoff3

        Thank you.

    • SDGeoff3

      This one.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    So, the Russians have a pee pee or poo poo tape of Glen?

    • amrak63

      *sigh* Fluttershy, I need this again… (or is that another pony handing Dashie the BB?)

      http://i.imgur.com/SSa9QpW.jpg

    • OrG in Amsterdam

      There’s poo poo tapes??

    • Major_Major_Major

      Amateur Brazilian fart porn is what my sources are telling me. Unnamed, of course.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Amateur Brazilian fart porn? Are the Germans losing their edge?

        I have no desire to investigate further.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          heh, funny ass episode of South park reference.

  • Picabo
  • armed_bears

    Are we sure about The Dumbest Man on the Internet?

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    Goddamn, these people are mendacious in their stupidity.

    https://twitter.com/KirstenPowers/status/894595630412079104

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      It’s not like Hillary spoke often and profoundly about how her faith informed her desire to serve or anything…

      But yeah, not as fun as talking about emails.

      • eka

        she was too shrill for anyone to bother listening to her actual words?

        • amrak63

          So the Flying Monkeys and their manipulators would have us believe.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Lolwut?

    • amrak63

      Oh, go fuck yourself, Kirsten Powers.

      http://i.imgur.com/CnEJYpI.png

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Sad indeed, Ms. Powers.

      … wait, who the fuck are you and why do I care what you think?

    • JMP

      Because it’s really hard to talk about your deep faith in god in America, it’s not like this country demands that its’ leaders must be religious, and specifically Christian, and that atheists and agnostics are victims of discrimination along with Jewish people, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, pagans, and other non-Christians in much of this country, or anything.

    • Thiazin Red

      I get the confusion because to a republican being a christain is all about persecuting minority groups and the poor.

      • amrak63

        Yep, and never mind what that long-haired hippie Jesus the Nazarene, and the Hebrew prophets whose teachings He studied, had to say about compassion for the poor and strangers.

    • cmd resistor

      and who the hell is “Kirsten Powers?” You don’t have to answer.

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        CNN pundit. Actually worked in the Clinton Administration for a while. Then got religion in the middle of the Bush years (she described herself as an atheist prior to that). Tends to hew left, but also has some weird positions (like opposing the Fairness Doctrine) that don’t skew in the same direction.

    • Juan de Fuca

      You know, I watch CNN a lot and the only time that Kirsten Powers ever comes across as a total dipshit is when she’s on social media. When she’s on the teevee, it’s like watching a different person. What I’m getting at is that maybe Kirsten Powers needs to be honest about what it is she believes and sticks to the CNN version of Kirsten or the Twitter version.

    • Canis Greyhame

      If you ignore all the times on the 2016 campaign trail where she went out of her way to appeal to the religious nuts, repeating that “do all the good you can” quote over and over again, then sure, she never talked about religion until now.

      • Juan de Fuca

        That and all of the time the media covered Bill and Hillary walking out of a church together in the 90’s. Given the amount of media coverage back then, one might think they spent as much time in church as Trump does on the golf course today.

    • (((fka_donnie_d)))

      Fuck these people. When there is a church on every block they will still be butthurt snowflakes, because both candidates did not loudly proclaim their desire to sodomize themselves with a crucifix as proof of their love for Jeebus.

    • Pisto75666

      It’s like that bull about not appealing to poor working class people. If it’s not spelled out clearly to them word for word, letter for letter, it didn’t happen.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      “I am an ignorant bitch, and proud of it” – Kirsten Powers

    • Mehmeisterjr

      It’s even sadder that Kirsten Powers can’t be honest that she doesn’t have a religious bone in her body and is just using it as a device for hoodwinking the idiots. Says a lot abt Rep Party.

  • Bananas Foster

    Sarah Palin is outraged about a student painting of the Statue of Liberty as a Muslim

    http://www.salon.com/2017/08/07/sarah-palin-is-outraged-about-a-student-painting-of-the-statue-of-liberty-as-a-muslim/

    Freedom of religion bitch. That text in the left hand is not a bible. It reads “July IV MDCCLXXVI.”

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Sarah Palin realized the wine cooler budget was in need of augmenting, you mean.

    • amrak63
    • JMP

      Sounds like a stupid baby needs attention again.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      I could even see the Statue nekkid; Sarah, not without heavy sedation.

    • foiled again

      Sarah: “How do you pronounce MDCCLXXVI?”

      • tomamitai

        Duh, just like it’s spelled!

        • Major_Major_Major

          mu dick lix vie, what does it even mean though?

      • Rags

        MDCCLXXVI Corinthians

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      freedom of expression too!

      • Bananas Foster

        Her Botox bills prove she doesn’t believe in that!

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          rofl.

          Nicely done kitteh.

  • Nockular cavity

    Obviously, this is Hillary’s fault.

    • Jeffery Campbell

      Bingo!!

    • Marceline

      I’ve had to take a break from Twitter because the dudebros and bots can’t stop talking about Hillary.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        DO NOT go back to the Kamala Harris thread.

        It needs some serious troll spray.

        • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef
          • amrak63

            “We are the Federation. We come in peace. BUT if you are stupid enough to try to take advantage of our ethics, you will not BELIEVE how fast we can send your dumb asses to St. Peter to receive your Darwin Awards.”

        • Pisto75666

          Forget troll spray. We’re at nuclear button at this point.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i do not disagree.

            What’s funny is, everyday since that story was posted, a new wave of jackasses comes over and spouts the same shit.

            We’re tired of it, so we just make fun of them.

            But then they demand WE produce evidence that hillary and kamala and the centrist, corporate shill, DNC are NOT warmongering, tax cut supporting, primary cheating, road bumps in the way of bernie for president.

          • Pisto75666

            If I didn’t know better, I’d swear it’s the same people, just making troll accounts over and over.

            It’s so weird, it’s like when a TV show gets cancelled (as an example, Last Man Standing. IDK if you’ve ever watched it but it starred Tim Allen) It’s not some weird conspiracy against the politics of the lead star. People didn’t watch it so it was cancelled. The Bernie situation is kind of like that.

          • amrak63

            How about this?

            Accompanied by one of the most kick-@$$ soundtracks ever written for episodic television.

            http://i.imgur.com/hrL5Pbm.jpg

        • SDGeoff3

          Oh REEEEAAALLY????!!!

        • Marceline

          Ugh. I’m so tired of the purity ponies and I hate Bernie Sanders with the heat of a thousand suns.

          What I hate most are the people on all sides who are still stuck in campaign mode. Our focus should be on 2018 and downballot races, especially statehouses but all the oxygen is being eaten up by idiots who don’t seem to understand that our country is so destabilized that any discussion of 2020 is ludicrous.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            eh, minor quibble. The argument, aside from litigating 2016, is just HOW to approach 2018 and 2020.

            They seem to want to go super duper left and embrace all bernie’s ideas and BURN THE HERETICS who don’t meet their high expectations.

            We don’t.

        • JMP

          Still, even days later, they’re still showing up for what should be a long dead thread?

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            yup – new waves everyday.

    • amrak63

      You’re joking, but the Purity Flying Monkeys will say that sincerely.

      http://i.imgur.com/89Lk8fh.png

      • hendenburg2

        I’m considering referring to them as the Chai Baggers.

        • amrak63

          “Herbal Tea Party” has already shown up on this site.

  • marxalot

    It is possible that both the American governments of the past 200 years have done Bad Things at home and abroad, and that we should not suffer those institutions to be further corrupted, but try getting people to hold both ideas in their head at once. Or even worse, that the precondition for not doing Bad Things is getting those institutions fixed. Or maybe even that because we have done it to others doesn’t mean we should not care about it happening to us. GG here is just spouting the good whataboutist line.
    Nuance 2018!

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      God forbid we should clear tje Russians out of the WH before we restart the “hate the deep state” Wurlitzer once again

    • Truthiness2U

      And maybe…just spitballing here, we could improve things? And that maybe actively working towards that, rather than just chucking the baby with the bath water, might be preferable? And that maybe we have gotten better over time. And that, maybe, if we elected better/good officials, they would towards that?

      I know…crazy talk!

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Nuance doesn’t get clicks, marx. You know that. :P

      • marxalot

        Yeah, well, neither do I!
        No wait, so’s your mother!
        I had something for this…

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Nuance is so avant-Trump. And French.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    “Oh Go Fuck Yourself, Glenn Greenwald”

    Im betting that headline lives in a folder on your HDD, waiting to be brought out every couple months as necessary

    • armed_bears

      Back in the Journalism Oldz Days, when we set headlines with magic and gene-mutating industrial solvents, these were called ‘keepers’… ’cause, you know, you could keep ’em.

      • SDGeoff3

        Back in the day of moveable type.

        • armed_bears

          ‘member when you’d get a 10 bells alarm?

          For youngz: 10 bells was sorta like a Disqus notification, but coming out of a single 500-pound teletype machine in a room full of alcoholics.

          • SDGeoff3

            Ah yes, I remember it well. The scotch was in the back of my lower left drawer.

        • foiled again

          Linotype FTW. Go waxers!

  • Jennifer R

    Today is the first day of the Shadowrun game I am playing. Pretty enjoyable so far, it’s fun getting to roleplay Reality Impaired.

  • jesterpunk
    • SDGeoff3

      This book must be a bestseller! Everyone seems to be raving about it.

  • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

    It’s almost like the Federal bureaucracy is made up of many people, with a variety of political beliefs, talents, and ideologies, and a considerable number of them have taken to slow-pedaling things that they believe will substantially harm this country!

    … Nah, I’ll just go back to thinking of them as an arbitrarily evil collection of people whose sole goal is death, murder, and destruction, because Americans in government are inherently like that for some reason.

    • tomamitai

      You ever fill out an SF-171? It’s enough to turn anybody to the dark side.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Religious faith. In Capitalism, Christianity, ‘The Market’, it’s all the same. Drives irrationality, destruction, bigotry.

      • amrak63

        Is the “destruction” part not true of anything, if you use it badly?

  • SDGeoff3

    These awful people are really beginning to unravel in the most conspicuous ways. I know there was a time, in the very long ago, that he seemed to resemble a slightly sensible commenter until President Obama was elected (TWICE, YA BASTIDS: TWICE!!) that things were getting very not nice.

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    back from job interview – guy said he could get me in somewhere and would push for me. He said that $7.25 – $10 stuff was bullshit. He said they normally accept companies paying $12 for my kind of job.

    I had assessments to take when I got home. 90% (9 out of 10 questions) on excel, 100% on word, and typed 97 wpm with 0 errors.

    : D

    • SDGeoff3

      EEEEEEK!!!! Good for you!
      Thanks for the update.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        and thank you all for all the support lo these many painful months.

        ; )

        • SDGeoff3

          That is why we come here.
          And for dick jokes.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            there’s occasionally a recipe, but i don’t cook – so I just drool over hte pictures and move on.

          • SDGeoff3

            But the column accompanying the recipe is always fun too.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Kick ass!

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        thanks Lance!

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Courage, on les aura!

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        thanks buddy!

    • Jennifer R

      Go you!

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        aw shucks.
        ; P

        • Judylmontgomery

          Like56a

          Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! :!ao266d:
          On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
          :!ao266:
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        • Lisacreinke

          Advice46b

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    • biologydave

      Kick ass!

    • SkinlessGenderlessMan

      I haven’t been following – what sort of job are you aiming for?

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i’m a paralegal student.

        • SkinlessGenderlessMan

          Ahhhh, so you’re in the “starve ’til hired” phase of the legal career.

          There is hope:
          https://youtu.be/BGNa3dSaZCA

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            heh, thanks!

            I debated law school, had scores enough to get into amiddling school. But choose to do this at community college for various reasons.

            I may still go to law school, i’m not yet 40!

          • Paul

            Keep it in mind. I graduated law school at 40. You can do it.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            nicely done! Seriously, that’s an accomplishment at any age – and at almost 40, i don’t have the energy for that shit.

            Thanks, too.

          • Naytch

            Nvm the above post then…

    • AuntyMaude

      97 wpm? Jimmany Chistmas! Your fingers must fly! Did your keyboard start smoking?

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        lol, it’s actually pretty sad considering 1) i didn’t warm up, 2) i had a beer open, and 3) there are legal secretarys out there doing 110 wpm!

        (just today, the TX mom reminded me, AGAIN, that she forced me to take typing class in h.s.. She told me she had never put more food on the table than from typing. She was right and I’ve done the same since).

        • AuntyMaude

          Aww

        • Naytch

          Have you thought about taking civil service tests for 911 Dispatcher? That 97 wpm with 0 errors is impressive.

          • (((fka_donnie_d)))

            Jobs I could never do for $1000 please Alec

            My days off would be spent following up on every single call and then drinking myself into oblivion over the ones who didn’t make it. The cops would want to kill me.

    • Toledo Window Box

      That’s really fast typing – nice going.

    • Mhmmm
      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        heh, thanks!

        It’s about how i feel with those stupid tests.

    • Good work Tacos 🌮

      Cross fingers.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        thanks!

  • armed_bears
  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    I’m expecting a big news dump this evening out of the NYT…
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/894659355324424192

    • jesterpunk

      Longer then you will remain in office.

    • SDGeoff3

      He hasn’t figured out the game so far, has he?
      And Ima thinking you are correct.

    • Bananas Foster

      He’s like a bankruptcy addict.

      He had a problem with it, so he thinks everyone else does too!!!!

      (Hmmm…. Not slamming addicts here… Just certain people who project too much.)

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      yeah, he’s not vacationing all right.

      He almost never tweets in teh afternoon (as president)

      • jesterpunk

        Its raining so he can’t golf.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          ah! This is the most plausible explanation yet, sorry Bill D. Burger.
          ; P

        • foiled again

          It’s golfing so he can’t reign.

      • Bill D. Burger

        Could be some really good stuff about to drop in the NYT this evening. They usually call TrumpCo. for comment, he usually rushes to the twitter’ and starts denigrating them and then ___ KABOOM!

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Literally everything is a popularity contest for this guy.

    • (((fka_donnie_d)))

      Longer than you “starred” on the apprentice

    • Augustus

      you like how he dropped “unfunded liability” all casual

      dang, this guy is unsufferable

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        what does that even mean? I’m studying to be a paralegal and I don’t know what that means.

        • foiled again

          If you studied to be a parakeet you would.

    • dshwa

      I believe I tweeted back “You declared bankruptcy three times and you’re still around, so….”

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Longer that you, pal.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1U2lE7ALPE

      PS: Probably not Pinza or the BSQ. But fits Trump perfectly, except that he can’t carry a tune.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      It’s always projection with Donald. Always.

    • BadKitty904

      Longer than you’ll remain “President,” traitor.

    • aureolaborealis

      I hear that nice, relaxing vacations are good for reducing stress and the heart attacks it can cause.

      heheheh.

  • Thiazin Red

    I was reading an article about failed Wonder Woman projects, and damn people were not kidding when they said the porn parody had a much better costume that the David Kelly pilot.

    (The one on the left is the porn version) http://imgur.com/GjRCGlU

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    gosh, glenn, it’s like people have some kind of affinity for the constitution, bill of rights, and federal law (ya know it’s in the pledge officers and other gov’t employees take, right glenn?)

    Some of them may even have basic HUMAN DECENCY.

    Glenn’s entire argument, I imagine, is defeated with, “It’s not okay to say I was only following orders.” (Which is almost verbatim from a W quote about Iraqi war crimes which is sampled on a NOFX song I listen to alot).

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      The best way I can explain it is that Glenn wants the bureaucracy to do everything Trump says and speed up the collapse, which will take down the Deep State and usher in the Revolution. Or something.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i couldn’t quite figure out his argument from the open thread article, but i also don’t want to read his crap…

        • Mehmeisterjr

          Which is worse? Reading his crap or not reading his crap?

          Trick question. It is impossible to read his crap.

          • foiled again

            It’s like reading tea leaves, except it’s crap.

  • Marceline

    It’s astounding to me to see how many people are and were perfectly eager to sell out this country. I mean I guess I get it on some level. If Justin Trudeau came to me and said I would like you to help Canada annex the U.S. I’d probably jump at the chance for their health care and gun policies alone.

  • gingerwentworth

    I was shocked to hear Glenn Greenwald is trying to become the new owner of the Miss Universe Contest.

  • Zonath

    It’s almost as if there are people out there who believe that a President does not have the right to act like a dictator. Shameful.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Which is worse?

      A fat-ass dictator or Obama?

      Hint: The correct answer has the word “dusky” in it.

  • Thiazin Red

    Damn pimple right by the corner of my mouth making it look like I have herpes.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Hell, close to half of everybody got the herpes.

      Edit: But not everybody has tertiary Syphilis! Glad there’s something I can feel special about.

      • proudgrampa

        Yup.

        Whenever I ‘m down and sad, I say to myself “Well, I don’t have tertiary syphilis!”

    • proudgrampa

      I hate that when that happens. Oh, and the ones that are on the nose that make me look like Rudolph.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      And it’s still better than Domino’s pizza.

  • canes_pugnaces

    Poor Greenwald is lost in a parallel universe where he is the only sane one. Have pity. Actually don’t. Just pay no attention. I don’t.

  • jesterpunk

    Glenn is all for leakers like Snowden, Manning and Assange but now that its leakers when Trump is in office he hates leaks? Its almost like he has an agenda to push.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Funny how that works, especially when the WH is the source of 99% of the leaks

  • Sekhmet1

    These faux-lefties are really tiresome. He and John Pilger (another Assange fanboy, who knew?) are obsessed with this idea that poor persecuted Putin is a victim of bad publicity or something. Pilger actually argued that Clinton would have been worse than Drumpf!!!! Pilger’s latest here is a whole spectacular level of WTF.

    https://newmatilda.com/2017/08/06/on-the-beach-2017/

    • HazooToo
      • Sekhmet1

        Er, okay!

        • HazooToo

          Sorry, just wish these people would fuck right off and stop pretending that they give any shits whatsoever for anyone that’s not them.

          • Sekhmet1

            Ah gotcha – thought it was my comment itself that was the issue. I completely agree with you. I have had it up to here with them too.

            People like Greenwald and Pilger used to be quite sensible and did important work, and now it seems they’ve hijacked the bus to Fruit Loop Central, detoured via Wingnuttistan before driving it right off the Bizarro-World cliff of conspiracies.

  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

    The worst subversion of power was when Truman handed the presidency over to Gen Eisenhower without one shot being fired!

    • proudgrampa

      “I heard about that, man.”

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Since today is “Here are many reasons why Kayleigh is a crappy bitch” day here at the Wonkettes:
    https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany/status/266723264548728832

    • jesterpunk

      A cardboard box with cheese and pizza sauce on it is better then dominos. Its close but the cardboard box actually admits its cardboard.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Hey, Greg Greenwald, which is worse?

        Dominos or New York Pizza?

        • Truthiness2U

          Because Chicago style pizza or GTFO!

          I keed. I know lots of people who like real NY style pizza. (wrong though they are).

          • Mehmeisterjr

            I’m going to take the pacifist route here because, although I devoutly believe that the Chicago pie is not actual pizza but an entirely different kind of tomato pie, either one is vastly preferable to Domino’s fer crissakes.

            The Chicago dish is too doughy for me but this is much like a religious difference. Not subject to rational discussion.

            Actual New York pizza as opposed to Domino’s is just the opposition of pure evil to the light of heaven.

            I’m surprised that Kayleigh would pick this hill to die on because the ever-shrinking Trump base is satisfied with Pizza Hut, taco bowls and the “best” chocolate cake in the world.

          • ryp

            Thick crust, thin crust, deep dish, tomato-less, gourmet, toppings added while cooking or thrown on top, I don’t care. If it’s good, it’s good pizza.

          • Mehmeisterjr

            So you are a pizzatheist?

          • ryp

            More of a Pizza pantheist.

          • Mehmeisterjr

            I don’t want to get into an argument (yeah, I do) but Pizza Pantheism is a dangerous philosophy to adopt.

            It implies that anything may be used as a pizza topping. Yard clippings. anchovies, Donald Trump’s poops.

            We need to set a balance between utter pizza freedom and a reasonable degree of pizza discipline.

            Perhaps David Brooks, our premiere philosopher of on-the-one-hand-this-on-the-other-hand-that can elucidate this question at length.

            Even he can’t, he will get a column out of it.

          • Arolpin

            Pineapple does too belong on a pizza!

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef
    • Zippy W Pinhead

      She seems nice stupid

    • biologydave

      That statement alone shows she doesn’t have anything constructive to say

      • shastakoala

        Well except about construction paper like crust.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      oh fuck this, deport her!

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      MONSTER!

    • mancityRed6

      is..is that real? oh good lord what a moron.
      most any chain pizza is better than Dominos.

      • Thiazin Red

        Isn’t Domino’s entire new ad campaign about how shitty their pizza is?

        • mancityRed6

          I dunno, I only watch Hulu or Netflix.

        • Suttree

          We changed our recipes because they sucked ass?

        • Jamoche

          Their old one was “it’s not crappy anymore, really!” The new one is “it’s so great, I sold my house to start a Domino’s franchise!”

      • ryp

        I dunno, Pizza Hut, Papa Johns, Sbarros and Little Ceasar’s are all pretty awful, though Little Ceasar’s is as least as cheap as it tastes.

        • mancityRed6

          Sbarros is good, but only if you’re at a mall or airport. have you ever seen anyone actually buy a whole pizza at a mall? Papa Johns was good for about a hot minute back in ’97. Little Ceasar’s is magnificent, for the price. too bad there isn’t one around me. $5 hot and ready? hell yes.

    • Jgb979

      FUN FACT: cheerwine is waaayyyy better than any French vintage.

      Larry the Cable guy is wayyyyyyy better than Shakespeare.

      Pork rinds are waaaayyyyyy better than Kobe beef.

      Twitter trolling is wayyyyyy better than advancing civilization

      • Suttree

        I like spicy pork rinds! You take that back!

    • Suttree

      If we burn her at the stake on 5th avenue, will anyone care?

      • tomamitai

        If you put ketchup on her afterwards Donnie will eat her!

    • tomamitai

      I’m not sure if I’ve ever had Domino’s, and I know I’ve never had a New York pizza, but the way they brag about it puts me off. The best pizza I ever had was home made by an immigrant from Italy who Cheetolini probably wouldn’t have let into the country.

      • Thiazin Red

        There is a range, you’ve got the greasy slices that you can get for 99 cents at shady looking corner stores. But if you order from any random pizza place, you can be pretty sure that you’ll get something good. So the average quality of pizza overall is much higher than anyplace else I’ve lived.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          yup – miami beach had tons of shady ass 3 am pizza by the slice places – AND THEY WERE ALL BETTER than dominoes.

          Sorry about the shouting.

    • CripesAmighty

      Wonder how many zeros are on the check she got for that tweet.

      • SDGeoff3

        Kompromat begins at home, comrade!

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Remember the episode of M*A*S*H where Hawkeye has Adam’s Ribs sent to Korea from Chicago?

      I would almost go to such lengths to have a NYC pizza FedEx’d to Denver.

      • Jamoche

        “Crisp” crust needs to just fucking admit it’s a cracker, not a crust.

    • armed_bears

      FUN FACT: ZTA is wayyyy better than those sluts at Chi O.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        heh, I dated a ZTA!

        • armed_bears

          Everybody ‘dated’ a ZTA.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i did! oh wait…

            I even had Crown shirt till I lost it.

    • The Librarian

      Uh, nope. Is she drunk? That’s the only way I know people will eat that Dominos garbage.

    • Ms.Moon

      This woman deserves everything bad that ever happens to her, plague of locusts, her hairdresser moving to Miami, her house being infested with rats etc. for this slander.

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      Obviously she means the game pieces! DUH have you stupit libtarts ever tried to play ANY games with NYC pizza slices?! PIZZA SAUSE IS MESSEY!!!1

    • Arolpin

      FUN FACT: Even St. Louis Style pizza is better than Dominos. Dominos is barely better than Pizza Hut or Papa John’s. (I had Pizza Hut a couple months ago, it was fucking terrible.)

  • CripesAmighty

    While tangential, has anyone noticed what a gargantuan, galactic-scale, pompous, grandiloquent asshole Alan Dershowitz is? Just checking.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      i may have drunkenly mentioned somethign last night.

      (I”m assuming you mean his comment about the racial/ethnic makeup of a D.C. grand jury? Or has he done something ELSE awful?)

      • mancityRed6

        yes

      • CripesAmighty

        Oh, he’s still on it, but in responding to Ari Melbers lawyerly inquiry, seems to have dialed up the ersatz righteous assholery to eleventy!

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          *sigh*

      • Suttree

        I have no idea what you are talking about, but I wanted to upfist you for your first sentence.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          thanks buddy.

          Apparently the Dersh said something about how having Comey’s grand jury investigating Trump be composed of D.C. residents wasn’t fair cause, ya know, it might be made up of *those* people.

          (That’s not much of an exaggeration BTW).

          • Suttree

            Cosmopolitan people? I forget, is that a slur on Jews or THE blacks?

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            he wasn’t hte one who used “cosmopolitan” – but yeah, it was the blahs.

        • SDGeoff3

          I would add an upfist, and raise you three compliments.

      • Jgb979

        Of all the people to make a comment about the racial component of an inner city jury……

    • foiled again

      I hate his stupid horrible ugly face.

    • biologydave

      Yes. Yes I have.

    • Manhattan123

      Yes. Is that a new thing or has he always been an asshole and I’ve just never noticed it before?

      • The Librarian

        I’ve wondered the same. Did I miss something?

    • John Thorstensen

      Yes, it has been noted.

      A Facebook acquaintance of mine, who is an attorney, fellow wonketeer and Charles Pierce fan, opines:

      Here comes Alan M. Dershowitz, Infantile Narcissist, Trumper, and
      Lifelong Embarrassment to Harvard and the legal profession, vomiting
      inflammatory charges about the presumed “ethnic and racial composition”
      (and insinuated bias) of the Washington investigating grand jury.
      Identities of grand jurors are strictly secret. (I love Joy Reid’s word
      “beclown,” although I could quibble that my colleague has always been a
      clown.)

      If he sees this and wishes to claim credit, he can.

    • amrak63

      He has been a prize anus for many years now.

  • Jgb979

    I know Putin can’t possibly be wealthy enough to keep a pretend liberal columnist that no one really likes all that much on the payroll…

    Can he?

    In my younger stupider days, as I’ve shamelessly admitted to, I bought a book of his about how Bushinc was feeding an underlying strain of authoritarianism in the Republican Party, and how this was a bad thing.

    I guess this was before Russian $ was attached

    • ⭐️ BRAINTHRUST 5000 ⭐️

      Putin might actually be the richest man in the world; it’s impossible to tell, exactly.

    • tomamitai

      I’ve heard estimates that put Putin’s wealth at over $200 billion.

      • foiled again

        Dead souls make up a large proportion of his assets.

      • proudgrampa

        All those mortgages that he holds on Donnie’s stuff are undoubtedly a big part of his asset column…

        • Ωbjectifier

          Kind of cancelled out by all the sub par plumbing and wiring though.

  • Robert James Nugent

    The thing Greenwald is missing is that Trump’s military and foreign policy is, “Hey! Generals, do whatever the fuck you want, I’ll be golfing.” Trump isn’t seriously interested and everybody knows it.

  • Suttree

    Glenn should probably stay away from the track. A horseshoe is going to hit him in his head.

    • mancityRed6

      you’re acting on the assumption that it hasn’t already happened.

      • Suttree

        Is that horseshoe an ouroboros yet?

        • mancityRed6

          not yet, we’ll have to throw it at him a few more times to get it right.

          • Suttree

            I’ll get the shovel if you grab the tape measure!

  • ⭐️ BRAINTHRUST 5000 ⭐️

    “Which is worse: Deep State or Derp State?”

    • proudgrampa

      Yes.

  • jesuswasablack

    Glenn should get with that other loser Glenn BecKKK maybe they could start a help center for irrelevant political bobble-heads!
    http://www.alternet.org/sites/default/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/screen_shot_2015-04-04_at_8.05.58_pm.png?itok=swHa_nQ4

    • eyelashviper

      Alex Jones, also too. They could really come up with some conspiracies involving vaccines, chemtrails, Hillary, Al Gore, and the Pillsbury Dough Boy.

      • amrak63

        Nah, they’re afraid. They know you do NOT fuck with the Pillsbury Doughboy.

  • Jennifer R
    • Catstro

      Fruit Fucker 2017!
      Man, I miss my Fruit Fucker 2000 t-shirt.
      NSFW
      http://andrew-medico.com/images/ars/Penny%20Arcade-2002.02.11.gif

      • Jennifer R

        I don’t those guys are awful pricks.

        Sorry it’s 2017 everyone you liked in 2000 is a homophobic prick.

        • Catstro

          Yikes, sorry I honestly had no idea. Thanks for letting me know, I won’t post anything from them again.

          • Jennifer R

            Like, this was more of a JSYK, not gonna police people over every little thing, just giving them information that may not be in their bank.

        • Catstro

          Also, I’ll be more than happy to delete the comic if you would like.

  • IdiokraticDrumpfenResistance
    • mancityRed6

      $12 a roll? shit, at that price I’ll just pretend.

    • John Thorstensen

      Posteriors, more like it.

  • eyelashviper

    “What tedious fuckery” Well said!
    Greenwald and his wanna-be intellectual scholars of purity and other shit are worse than the damn troglodytes of the far right, as they have access to brain matter.
    Honestly, when I wander over to intercept, counterpunch, truthdig, etc, and read some of the articles, and THEN, the very tedious and delusional fuckery by idjuts on the threads, I wonder about how long life on earth can continue.
    According to some of the extra special pure and spiffy blabbermouths, the Dems are worse than any scourge ever to face the planet, with the Clintons being the apex of evil, and Obama not far behind. The US is the only country to do bad stuff to other countries, and to lie, cheat, and break their own laws, while those poor Ruskies are put upon daily, even hourly, by the minions of the press, the neolibs, and Vichy Dems.
    Fuk em and then fuk em again. Then let then hang out in Moscow for a few years, doing their complaining there and see how long that would be tolerated.
    (Edit), and also too, don’t ever forget that Libya was a Utopia, with freedumbs, democracy and fun for all, until Wicked Hillary personally front stabbed that nice man, Khadaffi.

    • mancityRed6

      I’m not happy about the way our country has conducted itself since it was born, basically. but I also realize that the only way it’s ever going to get to a place where things are good and I am proud of it in every way is to keep voting for (D).
      definitely not the worst, but not up to the standards that it should be following.

      • eyelashviper

        Agree completely, but according to Glenn and his little cadre, we are the worst, always evil, and the Deep State is gonna send us all to Gitmo.

        • mancityRed6

          since he claims to be a Democrat, wouldn’t this be just fodder for the right wing to say, “look, he hates this country!”?
          or maybe it’s just a trick to make their heads explode…nah, he’s just spouting garbage so he can get published on some crappy website.

  • Bananas Foster

    Glenn Greenwald fucking himself is some Sci-Fi experiment in what is masochism vs. sadomasochism that will end up rending a whole in the fabric of space time that will end us all.

    We’ll die happy, because he’ll (vote) first.

    • Thiazin Red

      I’m picturing the two Lemongrabs from Adventure Time.

    • SDGeoff3

      But look at the shiny forehead you grow.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Stephen Miller lives in a $1 Million condo paid for by his daddy.

    https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/894660263194087425

    • jesterpunk

      I can’t believe he is only 31, I guess when you sell your soul they take some of your life force with it.

    • SnarkON

      Only a million dollars? His dad must not like him.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Can you blame him?

    • Cosmopolitan John

      Bootstraps, bitches!

      • Major_Major_Major

        Ain’t nobody said nothing about who’s bootstraps. Also helpos if you got some poors to stand on to keep you above water.

    • SDGeoff3

      With party lights.

    • Edith Prickly

      Are we surprised that a guy who won’t pick up his own garbage doesn’t pay his own mortgage either?

  • Anna Rompage

    If red herrings were an actual food source, Glen here would have just eradicated world hunger…

  • dshwa

    Between the Russian’s paid “leftists” (looking at you too, Jill Stein) and the purity ponies, I start to worry we’ll ever get unified enough to keep Cheetolini from becoming dictator for life.

    • Bananas Foster

      Seriously?

      It’s not cool to yell fire.

      Even the Republicans are starting to run.

      He’s unlikely to be president until 2024, much less dictator for life.

      • Cosmopolitan John

        Can’t happen too soon. We’re one Supreme Court seat away from some serious long-term fuckery.

        • Bananas Foster

          That is the greatest lasting threat of the Trump presidency.

    • Moar Wordz

      I’ve heard she was cozy with, not paid by Russians. That’s a new one for me but it would make sense. There was so much hot air on her campaign, castles in the sky, seemed designed to create warm fuzzies in the most niave sector of the U.S. The people whose political theory was dreamed up in a vegan coffee house w/ a lot of kale chips, folk guitar music and heady idealism, but not much sound strategy.
      I wrote them ( Stein Campaign ) to inquire on their lack of projectable platforms and they sent back a sort puff – the- magic dragon edict. I had nuthin’. I wanted to remain impartial until I gathered facts but there were none to gather.

      • amrak63

        Did the vegan coffee house have–oh, never mind.

        • Edith Prickly

          Yodeling baby buttholes? Come on, we know that’s what you were going to ask.

        • Moar Wordz

          What ? Mocha Soy Lattes ?! Yes, yes they did.

  • Gigglesnort

    What are we supposed to do? Just go, oh well, we have a Shitgibbon for President now, better follow its orders? Maybe a little Resistance is in order?

  • Blackest Noobs

    does Greenwald work a job? just asking for friend..cuz who in the fuck would pay him?

    • Anna Rompage

      BernieBros contribute to his on-line presence…

    • SDGeoff3

      He has to work from home. Has to. How could anyone stand to be around him?

    • Edith Prickly

      He doesn’t even live in the US. Back in the day he said would stay in Brazil with his partner because the US wouldn’t recognize their relationship. That’s not an issue anymore but Glenn hasn’t shown any inclination to return. I think he lives a pretty cushy life in Brazil.

      • Red Bird

        That sucks. For the Brazilians.

  • John Thorstensen

    Gosh, Mao-Tse Tung’s purges alone undoubtedly “brought more death, and suffering”.

  • BadKitty904

    You can tell this Greenworm guy is a closet Republican just by the unnatural shape of his head.

  • BosGrl
  • Proud Liberal

    So when did this country go mad? I’m guessing in 2009. Had something to do with the 2008 election.

    • Bananas Foster

      That would not explain the 2012 election.

    • amrak63

      I think it started in 1965 or so, with the passage of the Civil Rights Act, which (overlooked reason) was partially done for reasons of Cold War foreign policy–segregation made us look bad to the newly independent, mostly non-white nations, for whose loyalty, or at least neutrality, we were competing with the late, unlamented USSR.

      • SnarkON

        I’d argue that it started before and continued through and after the Civil War. The Civil Rights Act was just the next step.

        • Jamoche

          I’d go back to compromising on slavery.

          • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

            I’d let them secede. We’d all be so much better off.

          • Les Appentis De la résistance

            There would have still been a war but we would have crushed them all the same.

          • Jamoche

            With a refugee resettlement program for anyone who wants to leave.

          • amrak63

            *raises hand for resettlement in civilized society*

          • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

            Absolutely. No immigration test necessary.

          • Red Bird

            I go with not allowing reconstruction to continue until 1900.

          • amrak63

            Yes, the Northern elite cheerfully sold the freedmen down the river with the Compromise of 1876. I guess they didn’t want to pay the taxes which would have been needed to keep enough troops in the Southern states to reconstruct them for real. As long as the Southern elite, who owed the Northern bankers metric shit-tons of money, could not leave the Union and default on their debts, the Northern bankers were happy. They did not give Fuck One about the injustices done against the freedmen.

      • marxalot

        When was it we explicitly came out against wars of liberation, ’cause the commies were for ’em?

        • Les Appentis De la résistance

          Viet nam. Angola. Nicaragua. El Savador. Honduras. Chile.There were a lot. Algeria , the list is long.

          • yyyaz

            Cuba.

    • BadKitty904

      I blame Reagan.

      • therblig

        st. ronnie, newt, and lee atwater.

        • Red Bird

          racist, racist and racist

      • Juan de Fuca

        I was gonna say sometime around the rise of rightwing talk radio. We could go back far further but it seems as though we were making slow progress until around the Reagan era.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          Rush Limbaugh is a cancer on America’s prostate.

        • georgiaburning

          Good point. Deregulation under Reagan allowed single owners to gobble up radio station licenses in a given area, rather than just one or two.

        • BadKitty904

          And let’s not overlook Karl Rove’s part in destroying America…

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Seconded, and then Fox News came along and really ruined the country. Funny that an Australian criminal would be the person to destroy America.

        • foiled again

          Something something Fairness Doctrine.

        • BadKitty904

          Future doctoral theses await…

    • Persistent Demme

      Seething payback for Nixon?
      A black man dared to be president?
      (There’s a lot more, but these are two of the things.)

    • OrdinaryJoe

      The country did not go mad with the 2008 election. I maintain that election represented the will of the majority in terms of directions they wished for in public policy. They reaffirmed that in 2012. The madness was the minority, the 48% who could not accept the future. There is a cultural and political civil war that has been ongoing. Trump’s election was like the firing on Ft. Sumter: the first shots of an active rebellion that now must be suppressed. We have lost some battles but, since the ACA vote, we are starting to win. I am not sure who will be the General Sherman who will lead us on a wide sweeping cleansing or who will be our General Grant to lead the army that reclaims our country but I believe history is on our side. “He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword: His truth is marching on…..”

      • SisterArtemis

        The arc of history, and all that… I think, I hope, I pray, not to the FSM et al, but to all of us that we get ahead of this insanity sooner than later.

  • jesterpunk

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/08/07/for-someone-who-never-served-donald-trump-sure-loves-criticize-those-who-have/4iNecGptidfOXqTgTTHeFI/story.html

    Trump’s lack of military service did not stop him from declaring that Senator John McCain, a prisoner of war during Vietnam, was “not a war hero” because “I like people who weren’t captured.” Nor did it stop Trump from attacking the Muslim American parents of a soldier who was killed in Iraq, after they appeared at the Democratic National Convention in July 2016. In an emotional speech, the father, Khizr Khan, offered to lend Trump his copy of the US Constitution and declared: “You have sacrificed nothing and no one.”

    When asked about Khan’s convention speech, Trump told George Stephanopoulos, “I think I’ve made a lot of sacrifices. I work very, very hard. I’ve created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs, built great structures. I’ve had tremendous success. I think I’ve done a lot.”

    The president is staying true to the presidential candidate. As his critics continue to note, there’s no grace or humility, just nonstop bullying and hypocrisy.

    With his latest tweets, Trump displays even more disrespect and disregard for people who have actually served in the military and truly sacrificed. Trump can’t stop himself and no one can stop him. It’s not shocking any more, just depressing.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      how ANY vet voted for him after all that shit still fucking mystifies me.

      Like, I know a magic trick is a trick that I just haven’t figured out yet – but that shit…

      • jesterpunk

        I don’t understand how anyone in the military, veterans, related to or live near anyone currently or formerly in the military could vote for Trump.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          yeah, that too.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          I don’t understand how anyone who isn’t certifiably insane could vote for that orange clown.

          • jesterpunk

            Well yeah that too.

        • Persistent Demme

          I think they thought he would give lots of monies to the military.
          And they believed some of the anti-Hillary propaganda from the right, and the left.
          (But I still don’t get why they fell for Trump’s bullshit.)

    • Mehmeisterjr

      I thought that would have cooked him.

      But apparently his Ted Nugent base loved the fact that he managed to duck out of service without actually shitting his pants like their hero.

      • jesterpunk

        Yeah for a group that claims to be so patriotic and claim to support the troops they really don’t care when their candidate trashes troops and veterans any chance he can.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          Which is why I get in their faces with my DD214.

    • Suttree

      I know an old Marine who voted for him. The guy is fucking smart too. He just bought into the bullshit.

      • Moebym Reborn

        I know someone who is a Chinese-American and a Marine, and he too supports Trump. Good kid, but he seems to desperately want to fit a certain mold.

    • georgiaburning

      Military people are so used to getting screwed over that it becomes a badge of honor to keep taking it.

  • amrak63

    Where is Cogswell? This thread is getting full of Trek references!

    • Johnny Appleseed

      Oh, Cogswell. I thought for a moment you meant George Jetson’s boss, Mr
      Cogswell. Guess not.

      • therblig

        Jetson only went to work for Cogswell after Spacely treated him like such shit that he grew a set of balls.

        i think he slunk back to Spacely though.

        Wish i could free up those brain cells for something more important.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          IKR? I have the same problem.

        • foiled again

          Like what? You’re clearly on the right track.

  • Picabo

    “On this day in 1782, in Newburgh, New York, General George Washington, the commander in chief of the Continental Army, creates the “Badge for Military Merit,” a decoration consisting of a purple, heart-shaped piece of silk, edged with a narrow binding of silver, with the word Merit stitched across the face in silver. The badge was to be presented to soldiers for “any singularly meritorious action” and permitted its wearer to pass guards and sentinels without challenge. The honoree’s name and regiment were also to be inscribed in a “Book of Merit.”

    That would become the purple heart that we know today.
    http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/washington-creates-the-purple-heart

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Which is worse? A Purple Heart or a Bone Spur with STDs?

    • Ωbjectifier

      During WWII the US made thousands upon thousands of Purple Heart medals in anticipation of the huge casualties expected in taking the Japanese mainland. So many they were still using them during the Vietnam war.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        The estimated casualties for the invasion of Honshu were in the hundreds of thousands. Which is why the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, while horrendous, may have saved a lot of lives on both sides.

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        I think the ones from Persian Gulf I were also WWII vintage.

    • CripesAmighty
  • GreenGoldSharpie

    Glenn can suck my lady dick for what he’s saying. Those are my trans brothers and sisters getting fucked over by the fucking asshole occupant of the White House.

    Go fuck yourself, Glenn.

  • Suttree

    What’s Worse: Tertiary Syphilis or Having Your Dick Stomped a Hundred Million Times?
    =Glenn Greenwald

    • GreenGoldSharpie

      I volunteer Glenn to find out for us.

      • Suttree

        I’m sure that we could get top dollar for ringside seats!

    • Bananas Foster

      Tertiary syphilis would explain a lot…

    • Jeffocaster in the West

      Aw, do we HAVE to choose?

    • Jennifer R

      Sea fleas on the junk.

  • Jeffocaster in the West

    As per usual, I have nothing to add to this conversation, because I am shallow and I let the people who enjoy politics make the sane comments. However, I donated a bit of spare change to Wonkette today, and think you should, too!

    • marxalot

      Do you like dogs?

      • Jeffocaster in the West

        Roo, roo, rooooooooo! Sadly, I lost my hound dog last Thanksgiving. But I am sure there is some hidden meaning to this I am not getting and will be completely embarrassed when I find out…….

        • marxalot

          I’m just trying to make conversation, man. It’s the open thread!

          • Jeffocaster in the West

            Cool! The step daughter got a Sheepadoodle puppy and it may be the cutest thing EVER!!!!!

          • h4rr4r

            I don’t think dog folks approve of that kind of mixing.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Yes, I adore them. World’s best creatures as far as I’m concerned.

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      We love you.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      I think I donated yesterday.

  • jesterpunk

    The GOP where facts don’t matter and everything is made up.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/08/07/the-rnc-says-trumps-jobs-numbers-are-unprecedented-because-words-dont-matter-anymore/?utm_term=.471b675f8442

    Let’s grant, for the sake of argument, that President Trump deserves credit for every single job created since he was inaugurated. Let’s allow that the policies implemented by the Obama administration for eight years that set the job market on its current course have nothing to do with even one job created under Trump.

    Even then, Trump’s defenders can’t help but overinflate his economic record.

    The Republican National Committee tweeted this claim Sunday night:

    In fact, President Barack Obama actually saw slightly more jobs created in his final six months — 1.08 million — than Trump has in his first six — 1.07 million. And Obama also saw more jobs created than Trump:

    In the first six months of 2016 (1.08 million)

    In the last six months of 2015 (1.34 million)

    In the first six months of 2015 (1.37 million)

    In the last six months of 2014 (1.5 million)

    In the first six months of 2014 (1.5 million)

    In the last six months of 2013 (1.09 million)

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    Greenwald is one of those “liberals” who’ve gone so far to the left, they end up being RWNJs.

    • Edith Prickly

      Glenn is the crackpot libertarian flavour of nutjob. He thought Ron Paul’s 2012 campaign would expand the range of foreign policy debates and handwaved away Paul’s blatant racism when Dave Neiwert pointed it out.

      https://newrepublic.com/article/40397/glenn-greenwalds-selective-outrage

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I mean Ron Paul has a few good ideas, but so did all of my dogs, and I wouldn’t have wanted any of them running a country, unless it was Throwtheballistan. Besides, why let a little racism get in the way of someone who espouses insane economic theories?

  • Notreelyhelping

    And certainly Glenn’s and Julian’s names will not slowly float through Mueller’s findings.

  • Les Appentis De la résistance

    Greewald must smoke a lot of dope. I have friends that talk like that and they smoke a lot of dope.

    • marxalot

      Sounds like bad dope.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Glenn’s not here, man.

    • Rasilom

      Dope does not lead to this level of brain damage. I myself think he is huffing a combo of super glue, starter fluid and acitone while drinking bleach. That or he got his hands on some of the Squidbillies pine cone liquor…

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Glenn’s been huffing racist libertarian crap for a long time. It will do this to you.

    • h4rr4r

      Cannabis libels!

    • differentdrummer

      I was gonna stick to the truth, but then I got high…

    • Edith Prickly

      I think Glenn gets high off his own flatus.

  • TootsStansbury

    Today has been pretty sucky, newswise. Now we get insufferable asshole Glen Greenwald? Ugh. He can take the NRA’s “clenched fist of truth” and shove it right up his ass.

  • Husband Of Mrs God

    Have yet to read any Greenwald. Thanks for showing me there are better ways to waste my time.
    There are no coherent neurons in this bot’s networks.

    • tomamitai

      I keep confusing him with Jeff Greenfield for some reason.

  • Doug Langley

    Well, tomorrow I start my new job. One month contract which might, MIGHT, lead to perm. File clerk. Actually pays a little better than adjunct professor.

    Bank account is down to $37. Got $7 in my pocket. Bills are starting to arrive. Summer camp should be sending me something for last week, unless boss blew gasket and doesn’t think I deserve anything.

    • Juan de Fuca

      Good luck, Doug.

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      Come on perm!! You are due a break.

  • Red Bird

    I’ve learned two things today. 1. Fuckery has now become standard American English (good thing) and 2. There are too many so called liberal men who are bending over backwards to defend Trump (bad thing). I also learned the real meaning of covfefe but that’s old news now.

    • mancityRed6

      “liberal”

      • Red Bird

        Yep. I’ve met a lot of them since the election of the White Supremacist in Chief.

        • mancityRed6

          don’t get me wrong, I’d spout bullshit like a chocolate fountain if I was getting his paycheck (or Brooks, Dowd, or Friedman), but at least I’d feel guilty enough about it to denounce myself after I had a fat account built up.

          • Red Bird

            Maybe you can do that. It takes a lot for me to be a chocolate fountain. I just respect chocolate that much.

          • mancityRed6

            “like a chocolate fountain”

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Now, that is such a tease in your last sentence.

      • Red Bird

        Someone else posted this but it works.
        Cov=Cover up
        Fe=Federal
        Fe=Felonies

        • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

          Ah.

  • Juan de Fuca

    What’s worse: The fact that Trump needed a military officer to get him to make his bed as a teenager or that Trump needs a retired military officer to monitor his smartphone as a 71 year old POTUS?

    • Fifth-and-a-Half Element

      Yes.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    So, some Russian Bot type has responded to the tweet Wonkette puts out on every new post, on this story, and illustrated whataboutism for everyone.

    • HazooToo

      Oh god, please share for well deserved mocking?

    • kdl

      Is anyone more pathetic than Greenwald’s flying monkey brigade?

  • jesterpunk
  • Jeffocaster in the West
    • Ωbjectifier

      Guess he didn’t like his auto insurance policy.

  • Sophia
    • Rasilom

      Oh come on, its not that hard just pray to White Baby Rethuglican Jebus, he can do anything!!

      • Sophia

        It was pretty rude of him to schedule this on a school night.

        • Rasilom

          He was just looking out for the kids. I mean we all know that an edumacation is a tool of Satan right?

    • jesterpunk
    • Bill D. Burger

      Reminds me of the waitress who, obviously having mastered the definition of a ‘solar eclipse,’ asked us at dinner the other night if a ‘lunar eclipse’ is when the sun goes between the earth and the moon.
      I told her “Yes. You be sure to load up on a high spf lotion that day.” She was pleased with herself. __ And my wife gave me such a nasty side eye: “You shouldn’t do that.”

      • Rasilom

        The stupid, IT BURNS!!!!!!

        • Les Appentis De la résistance

          Less with spf 50.

      • Doug Langley

        Oh, sure, like the temptation could be resisted.

      • God Emperor Emeritus

        Im so cynical at this point, that I actually get happy when people actually get that far in abstracting an idea like that, even if their first attempt is face-palm-head-desk dumb.

        • SisterArtemis

          It would have been adorable coming out of the mouth of a four year old.

      • foiled again

        It’s nice to be nice to the dumb.

      • King Beauregard

        I have to agree with the wife on this one: at least the waitress tried to give the matter some thought.

        I deal with more people who weren’t paying any attention at all during school, and it’s only long after graduation that they get curious about things. No I shouldn’t have to explain to adults the differences between WWI and WWII, but at least they’re asking.

        That said, I get where you’re coming from; there’s an incredible amount wrong with the waitress’s theory.

    • Red Bird

      I won’t be able to see it but I’ll be taking the day off.

      • mancityRed6

        I have that Monday and Tuesday off. I plan on using whiskey to lure the sun into hiding for awhile.

        • Red Bird

          Do whatever you need to do.

          • mancityRed6

            66062 zip code, so I’ll get some kind of darkness.

      • RMKH

        I’m going to dance like mad in the Oregon wilderness to summon the sun back for y’all.

        No charge.
        This time.

    • Villago Delenda Est
      • Sophia

        I’ve been doing that so much lately that there is a dent in my desk.

        • SkinlessGenderlessMan

          I keep piles of paper all over mine to protect the desk….

    • h4rr4r

      Until I saw the reply I figured it was KenM.

    • God Emperor Emeritus

      Time is relative. Lunchtime, doubly so.

      • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

        Whatever else you do, don’t eat the fairy cake.

    • mancityRed6

      I remember being in school during storms. it would get dark outside and the lighting in the room would actually serve a decent purpose. everyone paid more attention to the windows than they did to the teacher.
      this will be no different.

    • Juan de Fuca

      I don’t know about anybody else but I have a similar feeling every morning at 6 am. *waves away early morning sunlight from bedroom*

      Go back from where you came from!

      • Fifth-and-a-Half Element

        “What time is it, and what day is it.”

        https://youtu.be/HOO5eNov2Kg

      • Les Appentis De la résistance

        And the damn birds. Shut up already.

        • CindyinEncinitas

          The mourning doves make their rhythmic cooing noises that slowly wake me up and they sound so stupid, and then a pidgeon dives in hot from somewhere and makes a really stupid noise. So aggravating.

          • Stupid pigeons. We should make them a food source.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            I actually did eat squab once at a Vietnamese wedding. It was really good but I had to get over the fact that it was technically a pidgeon.

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        “No wonder they execute people at dawn. Who wants to live at 6 a.m.?”

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Saw the ’79 total eclipse in Manitoba with my university astronomy club.

      I am still speechless.

      • SisterArtemis

        I was in Auburn, Washington, sitting on a bus. It was mighty weird, even though the skies were overcast.

        • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

          If you have clear skies and understand the mechanics of it, sensing the Moon’s shadow racing at you at several hundred miles per hour and then suddenly turning into night, can be the rush of a lifetime. Better than sex, drugs or rock and roll.

    • Moebym Reborn

      I’ve got my glasses prepared for the eclipse viewing.

      On MONDAY, AUGUST 21.

    • SkinlessGenderlessMan

      Thinking of driving from South Florida to somewhere in Tennessee to see it. Drive up Saturday night/Sunday, camp at Walmart (see, it is useful for something!), Watch the eclipse, them drive back south….

    • (((fka_donnie_d)))

      “I saw a restaurant advertising breakfast at any time. I ordered French Toast during the Renaissance.”

      -Steven Wright

  • Jennifer R
    • h4rr4r

      It’s mine!

      If we did not have 4 cats and better things to spend money on I would so have a fennec.

      • Jennifer R

        I love watching videos of them. I would get ferrets again myself if I had money for them.

        • h4rr4r

          Again too many cats here, but I understand the desire.

          Cats are cheap, as far as pets go.

          • Jennifer R

            Ferrets are fragile beasts, also poor survival instincts. Illegal in CA too.

          • h4rr4r

            1. Sad
            2. Sad
            3. Outrage!

    • Persistent Demme

      There must be other videos, cause that is NOT the behavior of a happy pet.
      That is a frightened, protective, upset creature.
      She’s lucky not to have been bitten.
      I guess I just don’t get it.

  • Edith Prickly
  • pgjack

    Glen Greenwald and Wikileaks are antiAmerican. The sole purpose of Greenwald and Wikileaks is to bring America down and have the world run by ‘free and fair’ nations like Russia and China. I am a liberal. I believe a modern society requires a lot of socialism to function with fairness to all it’s citizens. I think the US has a ways to go along that line but it must get there within the bounds of our Constitution and the governmental mechanisms in place. Career civil servants are absolutely necessary for the government to function.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      I’m sorry, rational thought has been banned by Donald.

    • beingreleased

      Related to my another comment of mine, Wikileaks was at one point an important source of information coming out of the Iraq war. But as Dylan said, I used to care, but things have changed.

    • TootsStansbury

      Now if we could just unbrainwash the Republican voters, deprogram the God botherers, uncorrupt the media and the electoral funding system, reform the police into something that is committed to justice and level the fucking paying field we might get somewhere.

      I’m just in a bad mood. I get electricity from a cooperative. Socialism at its finest.

  • Ωbjectifier
  • beingreleased

    I have a book by Greenwald from the aughts about W. he was a good, intelligent critic of W. My point is, it’s interesting how people change.

    • Persistent Demme

      And I thought the movie “Citizenfour” was sympathetic and interesting.
      So much is different, now.
      *sigh*

  • FlownΩver

    “Subvert”??? Did the word stick in his throat?

    • Scopedog

      Could be…but remember his head is stuck up his ass.

  • ryp

    I’m far more worried about the Creep State than the Deep State.

    • Bobathonic

      I’m most worried about the Derp State.

  • Cosmopolitan John
  • Kiri the Unicorn

    For extra credit, use the phrase “technicolor pig” in a sentence.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3fd3c937037b83c0f4b8eb67247e7079cc8781fee93c95b74fcacf645c9751c3.jpg

    • foiled again

      Well done.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      I ate a technicolor pig and farted rainbows.

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      Baconz crashed his skateboard and he will look like a technicolor pig until the bruises heal. #dontkickflipifyou’reapig

    • Red Bird

      Tucker Carlson swirled with glee like a technicolor pig when he heard that the Democrats were going to nominate Bernie Sanders as their presidential candidate three years before the party’s convention.

    • Juan de Fuca

      Charlotte and the Amazing Technicolor Pig?

      • Tishalicious

        DreamPig, surely

    • Ωbjectifier

      All pigs are equal, but Technicolor pigs are more equal than others.

    • SisterArtemis

      I not very creative, but truly interested: is this technicolor pig something you’re being asked to frame? I’d think it would be haunting and hilarious to work with.

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        Yeah, I’m making a frame for it.

  • La forza del resistino

    ‘the Bush-era neocons with whom Democrats are now openly aligning’. Dick Cheney to endorse Kamala sometime tomorrow?

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy
      • La forza del resistino

        Henry was first successful neck to abdomen transplant patient.

        • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

          Power must be the ultimate aphrodisiac, indeed.

      • Ωbjectifier

        Is that Mr. Creosote?

        • RMKH

          Ah but sir, eet ees wahfer theen.

          Maybe we can get a wafer thin mint to the orange one right after his next two scoops.

      • georgiaburning

        At a state dinner, Henry asked for Maryland with a side of Delaware

      • William

        Wow. The penguin really let himself go.

      • Doug Langley

        Wait – I thought the Godzilla thread was above.

    • Persistent Demme

      Some troll commented on my Kamala post, and I would have responded to him, but I left my Cyrillic keyboard in my other pants.

      (Thanks, Wonkers, for the 53 upfists!)

  • HazooToo

    Since Open Thread, here is thing! An attempt to form a nationwide rally if/when Mueller is fired by the President. Maybe some Wonkers interested in states which aren’t yet covered? https://www.trumpisnotabovethelaw.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response/search/

  • Jamoche

    https://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/outside-voices-careers/articles/2017-08-07/the-federal-government-is-taking-up-overtime-pay-again

    Remember the new overtime law that got stuffed into limbo at the last second?

    The Federal Government is Taking Up Overtime Pay Again

    The Department of Labor wants your input on how we should change the overtime rules.

  • Red Bird

    Have we been given an open thread yet?

    • Jennifer R

      Yeah, this is it via proclamation near the start.

      • William

        Well, it’s about time, because I want to talk about Byzantine History. Who’s with me? …anybody…hello?

        • Kiri the Unicorn

          Theodora was such a bitch!

          • William

            Totally!

          • La forza del resistino

            But Procopius said she possessed certain skills with ,um, handling gold coins.

        • Jennifer R

          I was thinking today while walking to the market about the Roman Empire splitting in two and if the US mirrors that.

          • William

            I know right?

          • NorthernSaber

            If it happens there will be no secret as to who the barbarians were who destroyed it from within…

          • jesterpunk
          • Juan de Fuca

            Have you heard the one about how the empire was cut in half?

            With a pair of Caesars. I’ll show myself out…

          • William

            OK, but remember to walk not to run with Caesars

        • Red Bird

          Well I just wanted to make it official. I mean its turned into a Wonkette Rorschach test trying to figure out when the OT is open.

          • SisterArtemis

            Lately, the declaration has landed in either the last paragraph of the article, or the $pitch.

        • Cosmopolitan John

          Just how Byzantine do you want to get?

          • William

            I was thinking of going full blown Constantinople.

          • RMKH

            Was Constantinople Cosmopolitan?

          • Raan

            Will you finally reveal why Constantinople got the works?

          • Doug Langley

            Nobody likes constants. Variables are the way to go.

          • Werewolf

            Nah-it’s nobody’s business but the Turks’.

          • Raan

            Very good.

        • bbayliss
          • Persistent Demme

            Some Jordanian friends of ours in London had paintings (mosaics?) like this casually hung in their foyer.
            They were breath taking, and when I asked about them, they said, “Oh, these? They used to hang in a hotel we had. I suppose they’re kind of nice.”

    • OrdinaryJoe

      Si. Está bien para abrir el blog.

    • jesterpunk

      suɐᴉlɐɹʇsn∀ spɹɐʍʞɔɐq ǝɥʇ ɹoɟ ʎluO

    • Jeffocaster in the West

      These things are not given they are earned.

  • Moebym Reborn

    So the seller of that wrist pad that was shorter than advertised got back to me, saying that I don’t need to exchange my existing pad, and that he has sent a new one that’s the right length. I feel kind of bad for wanting an exchange over about 3/8 of an inch, but I’m not complaining.

  • Daisy Sharp

    This is a thing of beauty.

    • La forza del resistino

      If you received this same message from Anthony Weiner or Eric Bolling, I am sorry.

  • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

    So much crypto-Nazism, so little time.

  • William
    • Count Awesome

      Will they be lowering his casket onto a tiny city for him to crush one last time or is he being cremated?

      • William

        I’m a little creeped out. His career started on the year I was born, and he died on my birthday. It’s also my first drive-in theater memory snuggled under a blanket in the back of Dads 58 mercury station wagon with my equally terrified siblings. (um, we were afraid of Godzilla, not the Mercury or Dad. I felt I needed to clarify that).

        • Scopedog

          Yeesh! I don’t blame you for being creeped out, to be honest…

    • Ωbjectifier
    • Scopedog

      Yeah….saw him speak at a con in NYC a number of years ago–he was full of energy and very kind to the fans.

  • SayItWithWookies

    Greenwald goes to great pains to make it seem like people in the bureaucracy don’t like Assmouth because they favor Gouda and he prefers Emmentaller, or some similar stylistic disagreement. And if the leaks were about Assmouth’s appalling taste in curtains, nobody would be making a big deal out of them. But what people — citizens, bureaucrats, and in some cases his own advisors — are resisting is the fact-free, autocratic, knee-jerk style of decision making he brings with him. What are they resisting?

    An unconstitutional Muslim ban;
    Dismantling Obamacare out of sheer spite;
    Bringing homo- and transphobia back to the military;
    Using the Justice Department as his own personal muscle;
    Subverting bureaucratic review and trying to make policy by tweet;
    Running a national security apparatus based on paranoia and conspiracy theories.

    That liberals and a few Dubya-administration veterans find his rule equally appalling doesn’t mean they’re united against him because they just don’t like him — it’s because they legitimately find him a threat to to the rule of law.

  • Yr. Gma

    Open thread: I am fucking pissed, and if you want to know why, go read the comments in the Grandma thread. I’m just about as pissed at the content of the article there as I am with the asshole who wrote it. Yes, I took my complaints to the top, but I don’t expect an apology.

    • armed_bears

      Yes… We get riled up at Greenwald, and he’s fun to poke, but the other thread contains the real crime.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      i saw it and still don’t get it?

      There was a joke about bitching about millenials *(which happens)…and millenials joke about boomers, which is what you object to.

      What’s the problem (says a dude from Texas, whose state gets all kind of fun made of them).

      • HazooToo

        I just went back and checked the article, and the ending lines do read like “Do you get it yet? Or are you too busy bitching? You got what you voted for.” Particularly if you’re already pissed off about other people making shitty comments about your entire generation as if you’re one monolithic block of people that always votes the same way.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          sooooo – would a knitting joke have been different?

          I’m really trying to understand.

          • Willert

            it would only have left them with a stitch in their side rather than a knot in their stomach

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            Knitting is hip and trendy and no longer implies that olds do it. I’m a touch flummoxed as well, but then Gen X (me, tail end) were getting pigeon holed even before there were holes, or pigeons to stereotype us with, so it’s all PBR off all duck’s back IMO.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Hey another grungy slacker!

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            Hold my flannel…

          • WomanInThePersistence
          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i’m int he same group.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          i didn’t read it that way AT ALL.

          But i’m happy to agree to disagree.

          Again, how are jokes about an entire generation any more offense than jokes abotu my entire state, which happen often around here. Does it irk me…sometimes. Do I get super duper mad about it, no. If you want to do that, fine. But I may not agree with you.

          • HazooToo

            Personally, I’m not angry. But I am trying to understand it from the POV of Gma and assorted angry boomers on Wonkette. I didn’t even notice the ending until Gma pointed it out. But if it pisses your audience off, and it’s low-hanging fruit, and it’s not even accurate, then why joke about it? And yeah, it’s no more or less offensive than digs at Texas. I’m trying to catch myself if I do that. Because Texas gives us you and Panika, and a lot of other great things, AND it went light blue for just a smidge of a moment on election night! So no. Texas may NOT be abandoned to assholes. It’s worth sticking up for.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            fair enough – but if we can’t make fun of ourselves, are there any jokes to make?

            Self-deprecation is kinda my thing, but I can see being fed up.

          • HazooToo

            There are always, ALWAYS dick jokes, my friend. They will never leave us!

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            lol, you are right about that.

            Plus jokes about Trump & Co.

          • HazooToo

            It would be irresponsible not to ask whether Ivanka and the Jrs plan to put Daddy in a nursing home as soon as they can get ahold of his money. I wonder what would happen if he was mistreated, and tried to sue?

      • Yr. Gma

        Ask the rest of the Boomers.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          Gma, I’ve read plenty of your criticisms on the issue.

          Go to yahoo on a given day and there are articles disparaging millenials.

          We’ve had this fight here on wonkette many times.
          You don’t bash them and I like that! And when people bash your generation, I like that too!

          Perhaps it was a poorly considered throwaway line, I just want to make sure i get if that’s the issue or if i missed something.

          That’s the line you object to? No?

        • Up In Smoke O’hontas

          I have siblings who are boomers (tail end) and they could not be cooler. One of my very closest friends was born smack in the middle of boomerdom and he is absolutely the coolest cat I know (not an actual cat)…so, I guess I don’t carry the antiboomer gene. But I do have a boomer FIL in a nursing home and that sentence stuck in my craw for the optics. What I’m getting at is that I understand your perspective, and I don’t want you to be pissed, Gma. Though you have every right to be pissed.

      • Juan de Fuca

        Ruh roh! I think I posted that link. I honestly didn’t think anyone was going to get offended by it.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Which thread is this?

      • HazooToo

        It was in the GOP fucking nursing home residents article. It ended with this:

        “Do Boomers get that they now have zero
        recourse if an aide making $8 per hour leaves them to wallow in their
        own filth until they are covered in bedsores? Or are they too busy
        complaining about lazy millennials and their avocado toast to even
        notice?

        MAGA!!!!!”

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Well, that’s just stupid.

          • HazooToo

            Yes, yes it is.

    • HazooToo

      I was of the understanding that generalizations in general were a bad idea, and that one shouldn’t make them without some specific data to back them up. Particularly if it’s going to piss someone off. Besides which, generations are a stupid generalization to make. It’s plainly goddamn obvious that not all Boomers, Millennials, Gen Xer’s, etc, are NOT alike, because they’re black, latino, gay, straight, men, women, Dem, Rep, and every other difference that could potentially exist! I’m disappointed I didn’t think to make that point in an earlier argument about this subject, but generalizing about generations is probably the laziest form of generalizing you could pull.

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      If your ox was gored for more than 4 hours, please ask your doctor if The Flounce™ is right for you.

      :(

      • Yr. Gma

        Blocked.

    • Calton

      You seem like the sort of person who has to buy their Butthurt Salve in the large economy-sized tube.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        come on – back off – she’s heard this, as I have seen, a shit ton of times.

        • Juan de Fuca

          Some people just love piling on after another has clearly said s/he is pissed off. The fucking Internet.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i really need you all to move to my city, so you’re not just online friends.

            ; P

          • Komsumverweigerer Ron

            That’s why the drinks thingies are so good. It reminds us that we’re not just names on the screen, and lets us know there ARE others nearby.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            ugh, i know….i’d love to go – but it’s a far drive out to my part of the country. (The food’s good, but fuck the drive!)

            The closest I could do that might actually attract other wonkers is ABQ or Santa Fe…apparently there was one, but that was beofre I found y’all.

          • Komsumverweigerer Ron

            If there was one, there will be others. I had to wait FOREVER for one to show up in our approximate neighbourhood, and at that the round trip was about six hours. But worth it. A lot.

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          Wait! what? Is Yr. Gma really gone. I couldn’t reply to her.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i couldn’t either.

            I hope not.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Me neither.

        • Calton

          What, the prolonged “look at me! look at me!” flounce? If she had kept her voluminous complaining to the topic it pertained to, hey, fine, knock yourself out. But she brought her flounce over a completely different place to draw out the flounce.

          If she didn’t like being accused of being butthurt, she shouldn’t have acted butthurt.

          I suspect that this is going to get an Honorable Mention in the next edition of “Dear Shit for Brains”.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            it’s called open thread – fuckface.

            And being insulted in her community and being “butthurt” are two different things.

            And no, your assumptions are totally wrong. It won’t be. I GUARANTEE IT.

            Again, do we know you?

          • amrak63

            Aaaaaaaand…I have blocked Calton.

          • Calton

            It’s an entirely different posting, Einstein, open thread or not. So, again — try reading slowly, sounding out the words as necessary — “…she brought her flounce over a completely different place to draw out the flounce”. I also notice you managed to avoid how I, personally, had the power to manipulate someone’s flounce decision.

            “It won’t be. I GUARANTEE IT.” What, are you in charge? Or is GUARANTEE another word you don’t actually understand? I’m not willing to put an actual money on it happening — every week seems to bring in floods of new candidates to spotlight — but maybe it’ll be a troll-light week this week.

            “Again, do we know you?” Speaking of reading-comprehension fails. CLICK THE FUCKING DISQUS LINK. And no, I don’t give two shits if you, personally — nice attempt at the royal “we” there — know who am I, whatever the hell that’s supposed to mean here. More to the point, I don’t think YOU actually give two shits, either, other than as a content-free club to start wailing away with.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        That was neither kind, nor accurate.

        • Calton

          You’re half right.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        thanks, you’ve made a regular tell us she’s deleting her account.

        Do we know you? Are you one of us? Cause i don’t recognize you.

        • HazooToo

          He seems to go a looooooong way between posts, here and Mother Jones. I’m guessing a lurker.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Yeah. But that was just mean.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            none of the regulars disagree, i imagine.

          • HazooToo

            Yeah, and uncalled for. I hope Gma comes back.

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          Yeah, reported and blocked. Because if this toad followed Yr. Gma from thread to thread then…
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFEoMO0pc7k

        • Persistent Demme

          This comment shows up as deleted for me, and I only delete really nasty trolls, so this person must have been awful, (perhaps under another name?).

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            the original comment or GMA’s response? Cause I couldn’t respond to GMA to tell her he’s an asshat who’s not a regular.

          • Persistent Demme

            The original comment.
            Must be a major asshat, cause I rarely delete anyone.

        • Calton

          *I* made her? She got all butthurt — whinging about how he’s not giving no money no more — on behalf of an entire generation in a different post, came over to a completely different and unrelated topic to repeat said unrelated butthurt, and according to you *I* made her flounce?

          If she wants to flounce, get it over with, already. But that’s not how flouncers work, now is it.

          As for who I am, you know enough to click on the goddamned Disqus link, don’t you? I mean, if you’re a regular and all that you know that, right? It being a prime source of material for “Dear Shit for Brains” and all? My history is there — unlike yours, I just noticed.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            “whinging about how he’s not giving no money no more”

            Nope, you missed her point.

            “If she wants to flounce, get it over with, already. ”
            Nah, I like her better than you.

            “As for who I am, you know enough to click on the goddamned Disqus link, don’t you? I mean, if you’re a regular and all that you know that, right? ”

            Nope, never seen you or recongize your nym – unlike GMA’s.

            Even if you were a stranger or a regular – it was a fucked up comment.

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Greenwald’s always been a sanctimonious twat with questionable motives. He lives the life of a millionaire in Brazil; he has no stake in this country emotionally or otherwise. Anything that makes the U.S. look evil, weak, inept, and corrupt is good to him, and he doesn’t give a fuck about good, genuinely patriotic people getting hurt in the process. I’ve always hated him.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      I’ve never known that much about him, but he does seem like an asshole.

  • CO

    Glenn pushes his Russia non-story so much that he has to talk to Tucker Carlson so he can find someone who agrees with him.
    https://twitter.com/jeremyscahill/status/890167386464296960

  • CindyinEncinitas

    I remember when Jimmy Carter tried repeatedly to destroy the world. I remember that time he…
    “Through the Carter Center, the former president launched a fight against Guinea worm disease, a devastating tropical infection that incapacitates its victims. The center has announced that the disease, which was estimated in 1986 to affect 3.5 million people, was reduced to 126 cases in 2014. It will likely become the first human disease eradicated since smallpox.”
    Well, actually, there was that other time…

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      That entire plan was cooked by Donald Rumsfeld, didn’t you know?

    • bbayliss

      The time he actually had an energy policy?

      • William

        Jimmy was actually very well versed in nuclear power and hand picked by the infamous Admiral Rickover to help develop it for the modern nuclear Navy. Too many people dismiss President Carter as a dull peanut farmer who builds houses.

        • Scopedog
        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          Jimmeh was a nuclear engineering major at Georgia Tech, back when you could easily glow in the dark.
          Science Fact – the reactor at Tech, yes there was a “working” reactor in midtown Atlanta, was shut down and decommissioned in 1996, before the Olympics to prevent it from being attacked. When I was in school there, class of 1983, there were regularly reported problems, like 1 inch of radioactive water on the floor. Good times, good times.

          • grindstone

            I used to short cut through the nuclear engineering building at NCSU because there was a Tab machine in a side passage. Which was more carcinogenic, wonder? Passing daily by the reactor, or Tab for breakfast?

    • h4rr4r

      What you mean is he driving an underappreciated species to Extinction!

      No really, fuck guinea worms. The sooner they are gone the better. Next aedes aegypti. Then yellow jackets.

      • amrak63

        Aedes aegypti and every other fucking mosquito on the planet Earth.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzM6aeZbZFM

        • grindstone

          No no no…do not wish mosquitos out of the food chain. What takes its place could be much much worse. Let’s just neutralize the deadly disease part.

    • wait! what?

      …but his snail-mails…

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    us APB around, I wanna talk ozark with her…unless she’s a season ahead of me.

    ; )

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Ozark only has one season

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i thought there were 2 on netflix…otherwise, good to know.

        • It’s on my list to get back to, but i was having a Sorkin craving, so i watched Studio 60

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i haven’t seen that one yet – as you know.

            ozark is pretty good, however many seasons of it there were.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Ozark is Awesome. I binged it.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        me too – after fucking APB brought it up.

        ; P

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    who was it that said, make supply and demand follows? Rick Perry?

    Cause I just saw it in “the Founder”.

    • jesterpunk

      Yep it was ummm Oops… I forget.

    • TundraGrifter

      Actually, there is the law of demand and supply – the yang, if you will, to the ying of the better known law of supply and demand. Although I very much doubt that is what Sec. Perry was trying to articulate, it is a thing.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        is it, ya know, a reliable, evidence proven thing?

        • wait! what?

          Well, in “Psych,” Yang kills Yin, so…

        • TundraGrifter

          Sure. If there is a large, inexpensive supply of something, sooner or later somebody is going to figure out a way to make a buck from it.

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        See also Sanrio

    • Red Bird

      I liked that movie. I think the real message was to be PERSISTENT…..like someone we know.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        eh, it’s really starting to feel like theft…which is kinda what i’ve heard the history is about.

        But i’m willing to withhold judgment.

        • Red Bird

          Yes, the actual story was a salesman stealing an idea from two brothers, using legal tricks to do it. But the underlying theme was that the salesman was so convinced of his idea that he was persistent. And when he died he gave his money to the animal charity.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            hmm, well, that’s good.

            I am pretty impressed with his belief in the idea.

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            Yeah, I wanted to see that one but it was in the theatres here for like 2 weeks.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            is on netflix as of just recently. Watching it now.

  • Ergoetal

    Thanks, Evan. Let’s worry about the FUCKING NUKES first – and Trump. Then do the rest.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    Donald Trump’s highest-profile tech backer Peter Thiel fears ‘this whole thing ends in disaster’

    It offers the latest instance of Mr. Trump’s ties to Silicon Valley fraying. After agreeing to advise the administration on economic issues, Tesla CEO Elon Musk stepped away in response to Mr Trump pulling the United States from the Paris climate accords. The tech industry, which relies on a steady flow of foreign labour, was generally lukewarm on Mr. Trump’s latest immigration proposal.

    TOO. FUCKING. LATE.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Generally lukewarm. That will cause Trump to pivot!

    • Red Bird

      Wait Thiel is going on record that he thinks Donnie will fail. Oh dear!

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        50/50, so hedging bets.

        • Red Bird

          So, I guess that could be read as either things didn’t work out the way he wanted it on the federal contract front or things didn’t work out the way he wanted on the crush he had on someone in the Trump administration. It would be wrong not to speculate.

    • Persistent Demme

      Thiel is the worst!

    • Manhattan123

      Fuck this asshole for killing Gawker. (Original parent site of Wonkette).

  • jesterpunk

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-silence-minnesota-mosque-attack_us_59887a97e4b041356ec13af5

    Days after an explosion rocked a Minnesota mosque, President Donald Trump has yet to publicly offer his support to the community.

    Dar Al-Farooq Islamic Center, in Bloomington, was attacked early Saturday morning with what the FBI has called an “improvised explosive device.” No one was hurt, although people were in the building at the time. The explosion shattered windows, damaged the imam’s office and sent smoke throughout the center.

    Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton (D) called the attack “an act of terrorism.”

    Trump has tweeted about a number of things since Saturday. He’s found time to brag about his strategy on North Korea, criticize The New York Times and other media outlets, and bully a Democratic senator. But he hasn’t addressed the explosion in Minnesota.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      “Now watch this drive.”

      • Komsumverweigerer Ron

        He’d never say that. He’d say, ‘Now don’t watch this drive… wow, the ball landed three feet from the cup!’

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      That’s because if Trump did publicly show support or sympathy he would lose like 10% of his 25% of pure Trumpanzee support

    • PresidentGoldenShowers (R GOP)

      Because he doesn’t give a fuck about tragedies that happen to Muslims. He’s a racist.

    • miss_grundy

      He’s a bigoted Islamophobe. Don’t expect him to address this incident.

      • Komsumverweigerer Ron

        Except for maybe ‘I hope that nice white guy – he voted for me, you know – wasn’t hurt.’ Or words to that effect.

    • Sophia

      Hasn’t said anything about the 3 Marines lost at sea after the plane crash either.

  • Went out for dinner with a friend for her birthday. Home in time for MSNBC

    • Red Bird

      Drink some of that tea we like.

    • Komsumverweigerer Ron

      How do you stand that mad social whirl?

  • insolenttomato

    Unsurprisingly, the dark underbelly of the Twitterverse luuuuuurves him. 4chaners, Berners, and deplorables will defend him unto death.

    • Scopedog

      Well, birds of a feather, flies on shit, you know….

      • Red Bird

        Some birds will eat those flies also, too.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Seems like a real solid plan. Not to mention, really humanitarian. ‘Murica!
    https://twitter.com/justinhendrix/status/894706020014063616

  • ConnieHinesDorothyProvine

    The 400-pound New Jersey dude?

    I believe that his name is Chris Christie.

    PS: There are currently 666 comments. I wonder what that means.

  • PresidentGoldenShowers (R GOP)

    Greenwald’s got his and is well off living in Brazil. Why would he care about the US going to hell in a handbasket thanks to Trump?

    • (((fka_donnie_d)))

      Because he has to Be Right, you see. It’s the only justification he can find for running away like a little pussy and abandoning the few family members who are still speaking to him.

    • Moebym Reborn

      Spite.

  • (((fka_donnie_d)))

    OT ish

    Just stumbled across Kipling’s Collective WWI Epitaph

    If any question why we died,
    Tell them, because our fathers lied.

    Fucking heartbreaking. The human capacity to _not_ learn by experience is truly bottomless. A bloody shame is son had to die to produce that, but at least what passes for Western Civilization got something out of it.

    • William
      • (((fka_donnie_d)))

        Yes, a classic. Kipling ended up growing quite a conscience (and a brain)

        http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_wethey.htm

        • William

          He truly did. I’ve found it interesting that so many great minds, once established in their field of expertise, pivot toward a noble cause. Charles Lindbergh for instance became an environmentalist.

          • Wild Cat

            Ted Bundy became an anti-porn activist . . .

          • William
          • Red Bird

            Donald Trump became an expert on Russian culture.

          • (((fka_donnie_d)))

            Well, he was also a Nazi sympathizer so…

          • Werewolf

            And a Nazi.

          • William

            I don’t think he was a Nazi. He was revered by Hitler for his aviation skills much the same as Hitler admired Henry Ford for his contribution to mass production. It is true that Roosevelt would not allow Lindberg to go back on active duty, so Lindberg became a consultant, showed Pacific theater P-38 pilots how to fly for maximum endurance (go figure), and just happened to shoot down a few Japanese planes that were around. It has been reported that Henry Ford wept at the end of the war when shown films of the holocaust.

          • theonlyseven

            Lindbergh’s Nazi sympathies were somewhat tenuous. Like many people in the wake of the Depression he thought capitalism was doomed. The alternatives were communism or fascism, and at least with the latter you got to keep your stuff. Also, he recalled the horror of WWI and was certain any follow up war would be even worse. Unlike most people, he knew very well how advanced the Germans were at aviation and really doubted America could win such a war. His feelings were not so much pro-German as they were anti-war. He was far from alone in this, the America First movement had nearly one million members before the war started.
            Lindbergh’s biggest flaw was he was not a particularly sophisticated man. More than a few times he got himself in situations where people exploited him. His education was rather spotty. His father, a Congressman who opposed US entry in WWI, was something of a crack pot. He harbored a lot of ideas that today seem horrible but at the time were very mainstream. In the end he was a complete gear head and really had no business getting into any political debate.

          • William

            In the very end he was more of a tree hugger. To the point that he planned in great detail his own funeral and completely “organic” method of burial.

          • theonlyseven
          • William

            Good one.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      His only son was killed at the Battle of Loos in1915. He was 18 years old.

      • (((fka_donnie_d)))

        Shit.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Yeah.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸
    • (((fka_donnie_d)))

      He found Hillary’s Emails! Don’t tell anybody!

    • Count Awesome

      I’m hoping Congress repeals and replaces Trump.

    • Pisto75666

      SO much winning. I can’t take all the winning!

  • wait! what?
    • Moebym Reborn

      So stealing that one. Scully was my original idol.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸
    • Left Coast Tom

      Huh? He’s into artisanal cocaine?

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Too much idiocy.

    • Scopedog

      He should be spending more time trying to suck his own…well, you know.

    • Red Bird

      Is that to be considered tacit admission that his former boss used???

  • Left Coast Tom
    • Left Coast Tom

      “Disclosure of […] intercepted calls”…I wonder what the name of his blog is…

      • William

        My standard response to the slack jawed Trump-ites who feel the need to express outrage and indignation over leaks. https://youtu.be/mUtT0b0EnSw

        • Scopedog

          Perfect!

    • RobKanC

      But printing leaked diplomatic cables is fine. Wow. The mental gymnastics this guy has to do.

    • Scopedog
    • Canis Greyhame

      I’m sure the circumstances were totally different and justifiable when he was involved in the leaking.

    • Calton

      Serious question: what’s the context here? The transcripts of Trump making an ass of himself with the leaders of Australia and Mexico were only leaked last week. Is this the same story, or something else?

      • Left Coast Tom

        I had to google, but near as I can figure out…around that time Trump blabbed when Theresa May shared information about the investigation into the Manchester attack on an Ariana Grande concert then blamed the leakers.

        NYT…seems to be around that timeframe.

        • Calton

          Thanks. I didn’t want have to endure Greenwald’s tweets to figure it out. Though with this White House being as leaky as a rusted-out sieve it could have been anything.

          I suppose the exact reason doesn’t really matter, given that Greenwald’s career — such as it is — as a journalist is entirely based on leaks. The right kind of leaks, of course.

  • La forza del resistino

    In the what have you done for me lately news for the week, no one has as much requested a police wellness check on the suddenly silent Mooch.

  • Juan de Fuca
    • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

      Now, if I could just get up off this damn couch.

      • Juan de Fuca

        IK,R?

    • wait! what?

      Do you wanna build an ice-trail?

    • uh uh. The one yesterday where the guy was doing weird stuff with dumbells while the old behind him hit all the free throws was totes much more satisfying. Emotionally anyway

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      Big deal.
      *holds up a bit of picture frame molding*
      Look at that miter cut. If that doesn’t make you weep from joy, you have no soul.

      • Confession: A compound miter saw makes me tingle in my naughty bits. They are so cool

      • Juan de Fuca

        It would indeed, Kiri ;-)

    • Komsumverweigerer Ron

      Yeah, okay, fine, but I didn’t see anyone lifting the body off their car’s frame with their bare hands. Or loading the back of a truck with crushed cement in hundred-degree heat. Or chopping down trees with an axe. Or laying brick or a drystone wall. Or splitting wood. Or climbing a tree because the damned cat’s stuck AGAIN. Or… well, you get the idea.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Thank God for our Canadian friend Useless Duck Company

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHQcW_6Mxh8

  • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

    I am so glad the Wall Street Party lost the election.

    In possibly related news, The Wall Street Journal reports today, “Penalties levied against firms and individuals by the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority in the first half of 2017 were down nearly two-thirds compared with the first half of 2016—putting regulators on track for the lowest annual level of fines since at least 2010.”

    And it is true, as President Trump now boasts on a near-daily basis, that the stock market is performing well. Weak regulations are one way to help produce higher stock values. In the short run.

    http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2017/08/sides-democrats-neoliberal

    • dshwa

      But she gave a speech once!!1!eleven!

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        Tim Kaine is owned by Wall Street!

        • Left Coast Tom

          No puppet! No puppet! You’re the puppet!

        • You take that back or NoVirginia will FIGHT you. And as anyone knows, an army of Northern Virginia is bad juju.

          • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

            NoVirginia is owned by Wall Street too! Can’t fool me!

          • Not far off the mark. NoVa is where all the money at.

      • JMP

        Look, did Hillary propose tearing down America’s financial system and imprisoning all the (((globalist bankers)))? Then she’s not a REAL PROGRESSIVE who is practically indistinguishable from an alt-righter, particularly when it comes to the racism, misogyny and anti-Semitism.

        • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

          What did you expect from (((Hillary)))?

          • Can’t someone use the same precise language used in dog whistles for the past 50 years, verbatim even, without being called a (((racist?))) come on!

          • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

            Racism? What racism?
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/30fd61a04c3eed6e011fe3678d69f4ac0d1aed087b26ac3ec82a7702eec3f8ca.png

            Does anyone else remember how, circa 2010, the Huffpo ledes constantly lampooned Obama? I went looking in the Wayback Machine and couldn’t find any, maybe I have the wrong year. I remember they did it endlessly.

          • I am not sure, I did not read Huff back when.

          • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

            They’ll start saying we’re “on the Democrat plantation” in 3, 2, 1 . . .

          • snork. I like the socially liberal thing XD
            OHHH or the one saying one issue voting is bad bad bad for the ghey! But ok for the economically anxious!
            They’re a fun bunch

    • Jesse

      SHE WOULD’VE DONE EXACTLY THE SAME THING!!!!!!*

      *no, she absolutely would not have done anything like this

  • Me not sure

    Glenn, what is this Trump’s Agenda of which you speak? If it is a legislative agenda I have yet to see it.

    • Count Awesome

      Trump’s making it up as he goes along with all the “good news” he tweets about.

      • Komsumverweigerer Ron

        So his ‘agenda’ is to take credit for the good stuff that happens whether he had any say in it or not, and claim it was his idea all along.

  • UpstateNYObserver

    Oh my, you’ve attacked Glenn G. Cue the Steinbots. Oh and at one point, I really enjoyed Glenn’s analysis, but this classic progressive purist bullshit is just beyond any reasonable justification. It’s like a good chunk of the progressive/liberal movement have regressed to about 10. They demand and expect purity and zero ambiguity in all things political and can’t fathom why they can’t have it. Their grasp of reality and ability to process ambiguity is totally gone and it shows.

    • Scopedog
    • RobKanC

      Like Stein, he is actually paid by the right wing oligarchy in Russia, of all places to pretend to be a progressive liberal.

      • Actually had one of em claim that Russia was a green country and all about protecting the environment.
        So I showed him about ten randomly googled articles about how no, not really, and he stopped talking to me.
        Weird that.

        • RobKanC

          Dumbasses!!

          • Pretty sure more plant than dumbass. But if he managed to convince anyone, that would make them certainly a dumbass.
            A random dude on the internet told me, so I accepted it without bothering to look it up myself! Sounds just about right anymore.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
  • WiscoJoe

    These damn Generals and CIA operatives don’t realize that subverting a President’s agenda has been outsourced to private contractors.

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

    Factcheck: no way Scaramucci worked 120 hours in his 10 day quasi-pseudo Whitehouse disemployment.

    • Raan

      Twelve hour days my entire ass.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      He may have been hanging out, shooting the shit and basking in the Orange Glow.

      • mancityRed6

        ewwww

    • Count Awesome

      I’d guess he spent about a quarter of his time snorting “Columbian Marching Powder” in the Oval Office with Trump while they watched Faux News.

  • mancityRed6

    because I’ve done enough damage to myself on the grandma bedsore story…
    way, way back in ’96, my parents took me out to eat. to applebee’s. I was 22 so I got a big beer. it was 11 AM on a Sunday.
    I looked like shit. unshaven, hat on indoors because I had longer hair but no shower. literally, I had been up all night playing video games.
    the waitress was more friendly than usual, so I put my name and phone number on the back of the ticket.
    it didn’t work out.
    she called me up on a weeknight, and I’m a couple of hours away from going to work. all I could offer was coffee. maybe I just didn’t show that much enthusiasm about her story of flashing the drivers on a local highway. (69, if you want to know)
    now, I’m 43 and my parents are still taking me out to lunch on occasion. (I get to pick and I need to do so soon), and now I’m wondering what the wait staff is thinking of me.
    obvious gray, (don’t look at the gut!), and the ‘rents being 69 and 65 respectively…
    it just crossed my mind.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Just get the food and leave the waitrons alone. It’s not the 70’s any more and ain’t no one Looking For Mr. Goodbar. That is what Tindr and Grindr are for.

      • mancityRed6

        she called me. she could’ve just ignored it, but that was the one and only time I’ve ever done that.
        parent’s paid the tip and dad was the one who said she was being extra friendly.
        no, I don’t do that now. at all. ever. good lord, no.

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          Yep, that was then. This is now.

          • mancityRed6

            even at my worst, I was a lot finer looking than I am now.
            also about 20 years older than the average server, so…yeah.

    • Red Bird

      I was 24 in 1996 also too. That was a good time. My story. I graduated from university the year before and had my first big girl job. So I took my Dad out to lunch at Steak and Ale because it was close to his office. (and within my budget) He even went to look at a project with me. Parents are nice. ;)

      • mancityRed6

        I was working my first long term at one job machinist gig, and at Sears because I was single and had the time to work two full time jobs.
        thank dog ephedrine wasn’t illegal then.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      I just drove a friend to a doctor’s appointment where they have Valet Parking, although I didn’t use it, and as I was walking to my car in the parking garage one of the young college-student Valet guys was running behind me to get a car for someone else. He shouted out “I’m not chasing you, I’m going to get a car” in case I thought he was going to mug me or something. Now, I’m 61 and have white hair and am a bit overweight, and it has been 25 years since guys chased me in a public place, so I laughed and mentioned this to him and he smiled and said “Oh, no, I’m sure it happens all the time.” Nice guy. His mother raised him right.

  • TJ Barke

    Been watching someone streaming Legend of Zelda BOTW, and holy shit, Urbosa is fucking foine…

    • Confession: I am planning to get the spawn the switch. Mostly because I want breath of the wild so bad.
      That makes me a bad person.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        No, it does not if you paying for it. How many leeches do you have on your Netfix account?

        • 0. Because I have no netflix XD They do eat my food, however.

      • mancityRed6

        I need batteries for my Wii controllers. and a good controller for 64 games.

      • Jennifer R

        My friends brought their switches (the system, not their sexual partners, or toys) when we hung out and it was a blast. Lot of good couch playable games.

      • Scopedog

        Nah, it just makes you a Zelda fan. :)

        But yes, from what I’ve heard from people who have played it….BOTW is awesome.

    • mancityRed6

      a guy in high school had an audio recording of him playing the first Zelda. yeah, his name was Edgar, why do you ask?
      he could tell you exactly where he was based on the music.

      • Did he marry a short gal named Debbie?

        • mancityRed6

          his knowledge of dinosaurs and video games like that, I really kind of hope he did.

          • not the same Edgar if there be dinosaurs. Deb puts up with marvel and trains and dungeons and dragons and video games, but I think she would draw the line at dinos.

          • TJ Barke

            Harpy!

          • mancityRed6

            in this day and age, he would probably be on the spectrum. he was short and small and Hispanic. his love of geeky things and not getting the grades he should have gotten…oh, dog, I’ve turned into my parents.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      This is all I know about Zelda.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO1QBTG6EXs

      • Ocarina of Time. That was better than drugs for me. Holy shit that game. STILL gets me even now, so many years later.

  • La forza del resistino

    Pence eyeing a 2020 run? Mrs. Pence says Nikki Haley as a running mate is a non-starter.

  • Damn it, Evan, we JUST got past that Harris thing.
    Though at least I can now ask “So, Harris’s donors bug you but Glen’s big money owners don’t, eh?”
    Just for the fun of it.

  • IdiokraticDrumpfenResistance

    Here is some correct spelling for a couple of words you may be using in upcoming tweets, Donnie. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1dea5ec39b3dcacadf06526a2544cbe3180d020d831b28690ec656ba7744a5e3.jpg

  • Calton

    “the so-called Deep State (normal people refer to them as ‘career public servants’…”

    THIS.

    • Count Awesome

      We need the “Deep State” vs. the “Derp State” as a PPV event

      • Deep state would win in 30 seconds just by remembering to breathe.

    • BadKitty904

      Aka, “professionals”.

    • shhhh. Everyone knows career public servants are just leeches from the teat of big government and takers and at the same time they ARE the deep government while being lazy moochers and simultaneously the most cunning super secret agent group to ever exist in the history of forever.
      WAKE UP SHEEPLE

      • Count Awesome

        “Bureaucrat, James Bureaucrat”

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          007.125 form 3C.a appendix B, licensed in triplicate…

          • Count Awesome

            “Make you you sign and stamp in the assigned spaces.”

          • Komsumverweigerer Ron

            ‘Initial here, here, and here, and sign here to indicated that you initialed here.

          • Count Awesome

            “Is there a Notary Public around?”

          • Doug Langley

            “Radar, do you understand any of this??”
            “I try not to, sir, it slows up the work.”

          • I am sorry, Ms. Moneypenny, subsection 2 of paragraph b explicitly requires pencils to be sharpened 3 mm precisely.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            neez moar “signed by a notary public.”

            ; P

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            11 point font, 1.25 margins, Times New Roman or GTFO.

          • I change all fonts to Times New Roman now because jesus fuck what is wrong with all other fonts?

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            It’s Ariel all the way down now. I got caught having to search for an obscure font recently. FFS, my computer has 200 fonts, of which 3 are useful, and yet we had to outsource another fucking font?! I get paid hourly, so I shouldn’t complain.

        • jesterpunk
      • jesterpunk

        Why did you have to do that Jen?

        https://xkcd.com/1013/

      • Angela Ruzzo

        Yeah, right, LOL. I used to be a career public servant, then I went to work in the private sector. People work twice as hard in the public sector as anyone I ever knew worked in the private sector, while earning less money. One wonders how these stereotypes get started. Yes, there are incompetent, lazy idiots in public service, but you should see some of the people I worked with at my private sector jobs. . .lazy and incompetent doesn’t cover it.

        • Oh I know, I was being silly ^.^ I may or may not work in something government related.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            I knew you were being silly, but I can’t resist pointing out the facts when I get a chance. I never worked as hard in my life as when I worked in government, and it annoys me that people think we were all slackers. One of my nieces is currently in the Foreign Service and she works 14 hours days, in fact she is resigning soon because she is exhausted.

        • pianoplayer1

          I was a career CPS social worker, for 35 years. Crappy pay, too many cases, but worth every second I spent there!

      • Calton

        Honestly, I’d almost believe that someone — NOT SAYING WHO TOVARISHCH — focus-grouped “Deep State” to appeal to BernieBros.

    • LithiumION

      “Illuminati” is an anagram of “career public servants.”

      I lose at Scrabble, btw

  • There is a pigeon on my balcony. Pesky winged rats

    • BadKitty904
    • OutOfOrbit

      get a winged cat

      • That does not sound safe

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        or an owl…

        • I’m still mad one of those didn’t bring my Hogwarts letter

          • Komsumverweigerer Ron

            All the owls from Hogwarts are backed up in the Mississauga sorting plant.

          • Willert

            you shouldn’t take it so hard, Petunia

    • TJ Barke

      You got a balcony and a pool!?

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      I hope your encounter goes better than Sheldon’s.

      https://youtu.be/NMBeyEzgTN0

      • I am better at appearing human than he is

      • Red Bird

        True fact. That guy went to my high school. Graduated a year or two after I did.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Are you sure it’s not Constable Downspout’s pay that evaded him?

    • mancityRed6

      the last ground floor apartment I had, there was an attack from a crazy baby squirrel.

      • I’ma crazy rabbit squirrel!
        Not rab-bit. Rab-bid.
        Ooooohhhhhhh

        • mancityRed6

          literally, it was climbing the screen outside the patio doors. I tried to do something (can’t remember what) and it jumped at me.
          I screamed like a little child and went back inside.

    • Pigeons are highly intelligent birds with amazing senses of both location, sight and even seem to have a long term memory recall ability.
      Which makes em more pesky winged cyber rats of doom.

    • Count Awesome

      Mmm, squab.

    • Komsumverweigerer Ron

      I first read that as ‘penguin,’ and wondered when you’d moved to Burma.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Penguins live in Burma? What?

        • Komsumverweigerer Ron

          ‘Penguins don’t live on the telly, they live in the Antarctic.’
          ‘BURMA!’
          ‘… why’d you say Burma?’
          ‘I panicked.’
          – Monty Python’s Flying Circus, Exploding Penguin on the TV Set

    • Covfefe

      Dodos don’t attack pigeons? Help me deal with this. Please!

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    I could mention someone whose agenda was way worse than “Deep State’s” or even Trump’s, but then Mike Godwin would appear out of nowhere and smack me with a fish.

    • WomanInThePersistence
      • mancityRed6

        I knew what that was before I clicked play.
        upvoted unconditionally.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          It was pretty obvious.

          • mancityRed6

            yeah, I thank my dad for turning me on to monty python.
            all I really remember from my early years is seeing boobs on the PBS because they didn’t censor a skit for some reason.

    • Keep tellin ya’all, it ain’t Godwin when you are talking about actual nazis

  • Jesse

    Evan nailed it again.

    Glenn Greenwald: tedious fuckery

    • I prefer bought and paid for stooge that I cannot believe anyone is still listening to considering everything. But Evan is much more succinct.
      Probably why he has money for the word typing.

      • Jesse

        Evan needs a shirt that says “Pay Me Money For My Words!”

  • BadKitty904

    A dark-blue shirt, with a deformed collar, and a yellow tie. Srsly?

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      I would go for something like that, but definitely with a decent collar. I even think I tie my tie slightly better, and I thought I was bad.

      • BadKitty904

        Plus I’m certain you know how to actually tie a necktie.

    • Count Awesome

      Mom refused to do his laundry over the weekend.

      • BadKitty904

        THAT makes perfect sense.

    • pianoplayer1

      Color-blind?

  • Parakeetist

    Open thread, so it is okay to say, I like puppies.

    • TJ Barke

      Anti kittenist!

    • mancityRed6

      catist!

    • Red Bird

      It’s okay. But how do you feel about birds? Hengh???111@@@!!!!

    • I like raccoons. Don’t listen to them. We’re a big tent

      • The only one i listen to can build an atomic bomb from the contents of his bag

        • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

          “So what do we do?”
          “Well, Jack, you stand there and say: ‘gee, Rocket Raccoon, I’m so glad you brought that unfeasibly large cannon with you’… And I go like this!”

      • Count Awesome

        Opossum libelz!11!1

      • WomanInThePersistence

        I like looking at racoons from a distance. But the ones in my neighborhood are right bastards.

        • Oh they are right bastards! But they got the cute lil faces and the hands and I just love them anyway.
          Luckily I have had better luck picking men.

          • AJ Milne

            Yeah, raccoons I’ve dated, it never went well.

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      You’re really going out on a limb, there, pal.

      • AJ Milne

        Man, you just meet all kinds in here.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Me too!

  • L Jean Camp

    I did not leak that story, to which the NYTimes responded within the hour. I posted the data. I waved my hands in the air. I jumped up and down. There was no leaking. With authentic typos http://www.ljean.com/NetworkData.php

    • Lance Thrustwell

      WHOAH This looks like it might be hard core legit intel folks. But proceed with caution. Thank you L. Jean!

    • yyyaz

      I see your links, but nothing at the NYT.

      • L Jean Camp

        https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?_r=2
        Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia
        “Law enforcement officials say that none of the investigations so far
        have found any conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the
        Russian government …. In recent days they have also demanded that James B. Comey, the director
        of the F.B.I., discuss them publicly, as he did last week when he
        announced that a new batch of emails possibly connected to Mrs. Clinton had been discovered. “

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Wow.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    and never forget

    EAT SHIT, BOB!

    • jesterpunk

      That can never be said enough.

    • BadKitty904

      Or, as we used to say in the days of the Old Empire, “Eatyay itshay, obBay!

    • amrak63

      Just not all of it, Bob. Save some for Glenn!

  • Doug Langley
    • Komsumverweigerer Ron

      Who’s a good mayor?
      YOU are!
      Yes you are!
      You’re a GOOD mayor!

      • Parakeetist

        That mayor deserves a biscuit.

    • Left Coast Tom

      It’s happened before…Bosco, Mayor of Sunol.

    • BadKitty904

      Does he live together with a cat? If so, these are the End Times…

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Still smarter than Donnie Two Scoops …

    • SkinlessGenderlessMan

      Key West elected a cat once….

  • psychobroad

    Fuck Glenn Greewald. I hate to be cliche, but he truly is as useless as tits on a boar.

    • My thoughts exactly. I recommend not giving him the time of day should he ask for it.

  • BadKitty904
  • Angela Ruzzo

    Don’t be sexist, Evan, it could be a 400-pound GAL in New Jersey who hacked the 2016 election. It’s unlikely, but not impossible. I, too, am somewhat uncomfortable with all these generals in the White House, but lord knows that if there’s one thing a good general is good at it is making order out of chaos, except for the ones on M.A.S.H. who never could make Hawkeye behave with proper military decorum, which pattern will surely repeat itself with Trump although for different reasons.

    I admired Glenn Greenwald. . .for a short while.

    • jesterpunk

      Hawkeye libelz!!!!! He was actually a talented Doctor on MASH so he got away with things a less skilled Doctor would get in trouble for. Trump is a moron who doesn’t understand anything and needs babysitters.

      • Notreelyhelping

        Needs sedatives.

        • jesterpunk

          Trump is more like Frank Burns, he thinks ladies love him, he is loud and does nothing but cause problems everyone else has to clean up then goes crazy and runs away when he can’t have what he wants.

          • Catstro

            Eats worms, also too

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    The entire world is laughing about Donald Trump’s ‘small stick’

    “He’s the opposite of Teddy Roosevelt,” that official quipped to Guajardo about Trump. “He speaks loudly and carries a small stick.”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9b6b8f8c017c1b4f24f103468e9d1de4e4396893e27182086502f021569660ed.gif

    • Count Awesome

      “Speaks loudly and handles a small dick”. FTFY and it would be irresponsible not to speculate.

    • Jesse

      Baby carrot!

  • Anna Rompage

    The first of the Armenian cukes!

    They’re a little fussy to grow, as they hate the cold, and also are sensitive to temps that are too hot, but the fruits are so amazing!

    They’re like a normal cuke, but with an almost buttery velvet richness to them!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e671a535c1e4d145a9f7c6bbefb3f866af9309cbe3943e61bc5d7036dfb9034d.jpg

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      System of a Down approves!

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      I just thought you were happy to see me.

      • Anna Rompage

        That too!

    • Lance Thrustwell

      I love cucumbers.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Ribbed. For her pleasure.

      • Anna Rompage

        Or his….

  • dshwa

    Cheeto Benito is now Swift boating Richard Blumenthal on Twitter. Pathetic

    • Anna Rompage

      “It’s amazing, I can’t even believe it. I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world, it is a dangerous world out there. It’s like Vietnam, sort of. It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave solider,” D J Trimp

      Fuck him, at least Blumenthal served his country for several years in the reserves…

    • Notreelyhelping

      Seems like Trump would have something of an Achilles bone spur in regard to Vietnam.

  • Michael R
    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      There wasn’t tongue involved, was there? Because that would be icky.

    • Count Awesome

      How convenient for David Duke to like what appears to be a self hating Jew.

    • BadKitty904

      Does DuKKKe know Miller is one of Those People?

      • Red Bird

        Well he did emphasize the J and the U in judicial supremacy so …. maybe?

        • BadKitty904

          Subtle as a flagpole, that boy…

    • SayItWithWookies

      He’s an ignorant, condescending Nazi — what’s not for David Duke to like?

  • yyyaz

    Do you like RW hate radio? Then you are absolutely going to love RW hate teevee. Sinclair and Murdoch are reportedly trying to outbid each other to see who can buy the most local stations to broadcast the RWNJ/Pro-Trump agenda. Hooray.

    • Anna Rompage

      The most lovely thing is it looks like Murdochs bid to take over Sky in the U.K. Is going to be sunk again, due to Fox’s frabrication of the Seth Rich story

      • yyyaz

        No such impediments on this side of the pond.

        • Anna Rompage

          Except for Canada… it’s my understanding Fox had to register as a entertainment network, instead of a news network.

          • ltmcdies

            Yup. And they didn’t get a great spot in the cable package and now they are …. gone.

          • yyyaz

            Yet another great reason to emigrate.

    • BadKitty904

      How old is Murdoch? I can be only so patient.

      • Wild Cat

        Sadly, he has spawn.

        • BadKitty904

          Psht. Thin-blooded, trust-fund neuters…

        • But spawn tend to self destruct when the daddy kicks, and rip apart his company as they squabble with each other over every penny

    • RobKanC

      I don’t really understand this strategy. With Trump pushing fake news narrative hard, how long before the propoganda gets added to that list?

      • yyyaz

        This is a yooge part of the plan. Instead of just the FacePlant propaganda channel, average folks are going to get the same horseshit plus commercials. Win-win! It will be programming guaranteed to please His Royal Lardass.

  • Picabo
    • HazooToo

      Is this a thing? Are we calling him Biff? Because I love it!

  • Ron Spangler

    The Deep State was the army in Egypt, which runs businesses which comprise a significant portion of Egypt’s economy and makes a lot of generals rich, and which did not want that to change. And that’s why a general runs Egypt again. Ditto with the Deep State in Pakistan. The Deep State in America is mid level civil servants who don’t get paid much, have to report meals that cost more than $25, and generally would work anywhere else except for the job security and nice benefits. So go fuck yourself, Glenn Greenwald.

    • ltmcdies

      Yes….this

    • Anna Rompage

      Rumblings about the “deep state”, coming from the Derp State…

    • Ron Spangler

      Also Tedious Fuckery is my new bowling team name.

    • 25? It’s 10.

    • TJ Barke

      Technically, the deep state is the military industrial complex. The way that trumptards use the term to apply to civil servants is a dumbass appropriation.

  • ltmcdies

    Why is the Greenwald Greasespot upset about this time?

    • RobKanC

      Media ppl being mean to li’l Trumpkin makes his daddy Putin sad.

      • ltmcdies

        Oh… well… GFY Greenwald

  • Picabo
    • BadKitty904

      It’s certainly not like the Republican Congress is going to do jackshit about it, what with being busy selling off America and looting the national treasury.

    • Pft. Dok pinned that like two months ago, Bob.

  • Raan

    Okay. Couple of things.

    One, I’m exhausted and it’s making me somewhat bitchy, so if I snap at anyone it’s probably that.

    Two, I’m considering putting in a sprinkler system (read: exactly one sprinkler head) for my garden. Does anyone know if it will work if I use a small hose to connect it to the existing outside faucet, or does it absolutely have to be connected straight to the water supply?

    • mancityRed6

      if you want to do it manually, go for the spigot. anything else, it has to have a timer or something.

    • SkinlessGenderlessMan

      Garden hose sprinklers work great. Dripline works better.

      • hudson srinivasan

        I was actually thinking about a drip system for a couple of beds around the house. The missus said she needed something to unwind from work in the evening.

        BTW these plants are expensive with a capital E.

        • Not if you do it right! Get cozy with some old lady garden types in your area. They will give you all the free seeds and splittings you can handle and then some.

          • hudson srinivasan

            good idea.

          • ooo and many a place of worship does a spring plant swap. Most of the time they will just give you, because everyone has a bazillion day lillies or lambs ears or whatever is the common thing where you are at.
            Example: I have about 10 gigantic hosta right now, of 3 different species. I paid for none of them. Also brown eyed susans, day lilies, iris, daffodil and lambs ear. Would have tulips but the voles ate em. Others I pay for, but good stock plants should be free

          • hudson srinivasan

            crap. we paid for hostas and susans.

          • SkinlessGenderlessMan

            Everywhere has a Garden Club or a Native Plant Society. Grrrrrreat resources!

        • SkinlessGenderlessMan

          Last time we veg gardened, we installed a loop of 12mm feedline and ran drippers to the base of each plant (2 to each tomato plant) and the plants loved it. Bonus is less mildew damage without the spray on the leaves.

      • Raan

        I would use a hose sprinkler, but I don’t think my garden is long enough to warrant it.

        Also I feel like the cost of some PVC and the effort to put it in is worth it to not have to replace our hoses and then drag them around.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      One sprinkler head? Whatever choking-off might be happening at the spigot, it shouldn’t affect the output of one sprinkler.

    • I use one of them dial sprinklers so I can move as needed and not have to do an expensive water line thing.
      If you just want the one, I recommend one of them, cause cheap, easy and works good.

    • Anna Rompage

      You can run it through a hose as long as the zone you’re setting up isn’t too big for flow rate from your hose. If it is, your sprinklers won’t have the flow needed to spray the area.

      There might be an online something that will help determine the flow rate needed for the number of heads you’re doing.

      If it does seem to be okay, get a two nozzle splitter for the spigot and keep the hose hooked to the spigot & your irrigation system. Otherwise you’ll get debris in the system and it’ll foul your heads.

      I’d also suggest doing drip if you can.

      It doesn’t work for lawns, but will do just about everything else

      Whoops, just reread you post… if you’re really only doing one head, it should be totally fine…

    • mancityRed6

      the heeler loved playing protester with the hose. we set up a manual sprinkler and she liked it for about 5 seconds.

    • OH! Second reply cause I just thought of something else: Also got one of them new metal hoses like as seen on TV. Holy shit I love it so very much.
      That is all.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Depends on your water source.

  • pianoplayer1

    Greenwald hates Hillary so much, he would give our country to Putin, because EMAIL!!!!!! BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!

    • oh that is ok, he hates the US too. Most of the west, actually.

      • ltmcdies

        Then fucking nice to Russia and stop bothering the rest of us

        • He’s in Brazil already. Very cozy with what passes for government down there too.

    • Count Awesome

      “Dear diary,
      If only Adolph were alive today…”
      –Greenwald

      • Wild Cat

        Vanilla Clash was cool. Found a pure version of it on YouTube.

  • Wild Cat

    O Amy Amy Amy! Your intrepid leftism will end secularism, reproductive rights, unionism, desegregation efforts, affirmative action, the battle against greenhouse gases, minimum-wage improvements, marijuanna decriminalization, and probably our lives.

    https://www.democracynow.org/appearances/glenn_greenwald

    • Eh. Many were fooled. Many more will be fooled again.

      • Wild Cat

        I was wondering how, with WBAI-Pacifica in hock to her, with a shoestring budget, how she managed to be willing to remain on Pacifica, got gigs on public radio, RT (logical move), CUNY (in NYC), and a host of other exposures.
        I think we can put 2 + 2 together now.

    • Anna Rompage

      Honestly, I don’t mind Amy Goodman as a information source for the left.

      I listen to democracy now on my way to work, and while the pieces can have a very leftist bent, she does report on a ton of shit that goes on around the world, that every other media source ignores…

      There’s not one news source that I know of that isn’t bent on one way or another.

      Take everything you read with a grain of salt, as nothing really portrays the whole picture

      • I like a leftist bent so I like her. Until she starts parroting the right. Then I turn to something else for a while.

        • Wild Cat

          I used to take the good and leave the bad behind. But her coverage and kowtowing to Jill Stein was too much. I kicked the habit in September 2016, if not before.

      • Wild Cat

        I was far, far left.
        I go back with her to 1994 and knew her slightly. She was a religious listen from 1994 until I saw that she actually wasn’t looking fascism in the face and fighting it but enabling it. Her battles with the Clintons are personal—she ambushed Bill Clinton trying to rouse Democratic turnout for Gore in 2000 on election day.
        She’s be an essential listen on many issues that are normally not covered, but I think her main agenda is the one that keeps destroying the slight ledge we have to hang on to.

        • Up In Smoke O’hontas

          Thanks for sharing your perspective. I only catch snippets of any news source and generally appreciate her program, so I’ve been wondering about all the flak she catches in various forums. I will listen more closely in the future.

          • Wild Cat

            Well, she’s home to Assange, Stein, Greenwald, Nader (who I voted for twice, like an idiot) and other enemies of the Democratic Party. Her home station is WBAI, bankrupt, mostly anti-Semitic, and existing in no useful reality.

        • Anna Rompage

          Who knew Amy Goodman had that much power…

      • Jonny On Maui

        My father said that if I watched BBC news and read the San Francisco Chronicle and the Berkeley Barb I’d have a pretty good idea of what’s going on.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    First day of school was…not bad actually. Only a couple people didn’t show up for work, we had one serious incident (a student was struck by a hit-and-run driver, but she wasn’t seriously hurt), but in general the usual day.

    • BadKitty904

      Dang!

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        Kid was in a marked crosswalk and it was the kind that has the flashing yellow lights when it’s in use. Driver just blew right through it.

        • BadKitty904

          Here’s hoping someone’s judicially crucified for same.

          • yyyaz

            One of only a handful of things for which I have no tolerance.

          • SkinlessGenderlessMan

            I’ll send the nails….

        • hudson srinivasan

          and ran after hitting a kid? should have be skinned alive and hoisted on a fork up his ass.

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            With votes. And bigly jail time.

    • mancityRed6

      it’s the second week of August. first day of school ?!?!

      • My lads start next monday.
        But then they get out early May now

        • mancityRed6

          end of May, first of September
          no wonder they don’t like us

          • right???? Labor to Memorial or gtfo

          • mancityRed6

            and four weeks for Xmas, oh, wait…that’s college.

          • lol we had a lil over 1 week in HS. Got out 24th (half day) returned Jan 2.

          • mancityRed6

            the job I had in Wales, we got off work from the 24th until the 2nd.
            we had easter off until someone on the M-Th shift complained and then we got the Tue after that off as well. paid.
            damn European unions.

          • Toomush_Inferesistance

            I want that t-shirt…

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        shit, I don’t start CC for another 3 weeks.

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        It’s so that semester ends at winter break. We get a week off in October, three weeks in December, and two weeks in the Spring. School ends second week of June.

        • Left Coast Tom

          three weeks in December,

          Ski resort coverage can be a bit iffy until the week between Christmas and New Years.

        • mancityRed6

          week off in October? where was this about 29 years ago?

      • Jonny On Maui

        First day of school for all the students here is tomorrow.

        • mancityRed6

          I wanna say “yeah, but Hawaii” but then I realize they don’t even know how good they have it there.
          where else in this nation are you gonna find lizards that get in your house at night to eat the bugs?

      • JMP

        It’s weird how so many states have now started school ridiculously early; here in California it’s starting the third week of August. It’s supposed to start the day after Labor Day, people!

  • AJ Milne

    Someone needs to drop Mr. Greenwald into a _proper_ military coup. Kind where they walk in, depose the head of state by force or stick him under house arrest and give him a script to read at gunpoint, roll the tanks up to parliament and say ‘you’ll sign these bills giving us dictatorial powers now, also, state of emergency until we say otherwise, and meanwhile don’t fuck with the curfew’.

    See, this thing where experienced public servants say ‘there are rules and your branch is breaking them’, or even ‘you broke them and we have to apply the law to you same as everyone _else_ in the fucking citizenry, you don’t get a pass because you managed to finagle a technical pluraliity, your office doesn’t come with a get out of jail free card’, Glenn, dear, that’s just the insidious thing we call separation of powers. Or ‘checks’, as in checks and balances…

    Or, if you want it simpler, you could call it ‘not having an autocracy’, technically elected or no.

    Or, you know, just having laws and respecting them.

    • mancityRed6

      Greenwald for Somalia…it’s a good tagline.

    • I like how it is a coup to insist your government run itself according to the laws that dictate how it should run.
      Fun!

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Dear Penthouse Forum,

    I never thought I’d be writing you, but last night I got deep-stated like I’ve never been deep-stated before.

    • Count Awesome

      How many “Deep States” were involved?

      • AuntyMaude

        All of the KayTEE.

        • Count Awesome

          The “Deep States had the bigglyest, sexliestly and throbbinglyest…”

          • AuntyMaude

            I’m blushing.

  • Joe Beese

    If you have any encouraging words for Sinead O’Connor, she could use them right now.

    [TRIGGER WARNING]

    https://www.facebook.com/100006731236998/videos/vb.100006731236998/1977220665845622/

    • am not on the facebook, but Sinead, you are lovely.

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      She’s had some struggles. I don’t faceplant, but I hope she finds rational help.

    • mancityRed6

      she…I commented. and that’s all I’m saying.

  • Left Coast Tom
  • Canis Greyhame

    John Miller strikes again!

    Early Saturday morning, President Trump tweeted his gratitude to a social-media super-fan, ­Nicole Mincey, magnifying her praise of him to his 35 million followers.

    Here’s the problem: There is no evidence the Twitter feed belongs to someone named Nicole Mincey. And the account, according to experts, bears a lot of signs of a Russia-backed disinformation campaign.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-curious-case-of-nicole-mincey-the-trump-fan-who-may-actually-be-a-russian-bot/2017/08/07/7aa67410-7b96-11e7-9026-4a0a64977c92_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.c18a1e2ba04d

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    seems like the main ideological battle in “the Founder” is the same as purity ponies…

  • Joe Beese

    This one’s for you, Glenn.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_pTtypgHQo

    • Msgr_MΩment

      A push from the left and a shove from the right

  • Picabo
    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      she’s older than me!

      Sorry, I’m at the age where i celebrate these things.

      • therblig

        my driver’s license is older than her.

        sorry, i’m at the age where i…what was i saying..hey, that’s a real pretty gal.

  • Blueb4sunrise

    So is it the Deep State that might start bombing the Philippines? Or the bugfuck crazy murdering motherfucking Surface State?

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-may-begin-airstrikes-against-isis-philippines-n790271

    • Joe Beese

      Eh. “Considering a plan” doesn’t count for much when you’re talking about the Pentagon. They’ve got all kinds of plans for stuff that’s never going to happen.

      The Philippines is only 11% Muslim. If it was 51%, I’d be more concerned.

      • Blueb4sunrise

        I get that, normally. Doesn’t seem reassuring in the present circumstances.

    • yyyaz

      Rexxon smiles as he shakes the hand of the man linked to 1,400 extrajudicial murders. USArrrrrgggghhhh! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3de1ee72f3dc19c31d8b43f962e7ac547fbc704e00d2c7474eafc565dbbca692.jpg

  • Jack

    Glen is entitled to his opinions. Jeees guys lighten up. You’d think he insulted Princess Purity!

    Who need the RWNJ’s if the Leftists devour each other? Well who need RWNJ’s, in the first place, right?

    • Count Awesome

      “Princess Purity” has no reason to complain after the weekend she and I had.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Who needs “Leftists” who actually are, and are doing the work of, RWNJs?

    • Left Coast Tom

      Is he on the “left”? He supported Shrub until the sheer weight of the Iraq war stupidity got to him, when he moved to Salon and posted against it. He spent virtually all the Obama years opposing him. Now he’s upset that people oppose Trump’s agenda, whatever it is.

    • ⭐️ BRAINTHRUST 5000 ⭐️

      Glenn sure is entitled to his opinion. I’m entitled to mine, which is that he is a useless prick.

    • dshwa

      Glen was a leading light of the purity ponies who hated Hillary. Now he’s shilling for Trump and Putin. I’d wonder if hes a true leftist or just played one while it was convenient.

      • Gigglesnort

        I don’t think Trumpista = leftist unless you are in some kind of wacko headspace, which Greenwald may very well be.

    • JMP

      There is no Princess Purity; the known Princesses are Princess Celestia, Princess Luna, Princess Cadence, and Princess Twilight Sparkle.

      • persistently_resistant_gayby

        FLUTTERSHY LIBELZZZZ

        • JMP

          She’s not a princess! You have to have both wings and a horn to be a princess.

    • persistently_resistant_gayby

      Opinion’s are like assholes, everyone’s got one.

      BUT THAT DOESN’T MEAN YOU’RE ENTITLED TO WAVE IT AROUND IN PUBLIC WITHOUT GETTING SOME BLOWBACK.

      • amrak63

        Except if you’re a toddler at a certain cafe in Memphis…

  • Jennifer R

    First game of shadowrun went well. In the process of setting up the location to hijack the shipment we ran into a pack of ghouls and it turns out I have 0 combat ability right now. However I did find some paydata in the form of shipping manifests for computer parts of some small company.

    • dshwa

      That’s why god (or a vat) created street samurai. Keep the meat occupied while you fish for some data that’s not nailed down or covered in black ice.

      • Jennifer R

        Yeah, everyone else has weapons and what not. I don’t even have a stun baton or knife.
        On the other hand I have a matrix initiative of 11 and four passes so cybercombat is good.

        • dshwa

          Just don’t use your deck as a club.

          • Jennifer R

            Never, I need it to feed me delicious hot simsense. Mommy might have a slight moderate addiction.

      • hudson srinivasan

        jen & dshwa,

        this all makes total sense.

        • Jennifer R

          Playing a hacker in a cyberpunk pen and paper RPG that has her computer in her head. A street samurai is a front line damage dealer and black ice is powerful intrusion countermeasures. Oh and paydata is any information that someone in the black market would pay money for.

  • eastcoastlib

    That shit about Dems and the neocons is a tell. He and his minions (who BTW are the very definition of the deep state) helped Russia subvert our election. He’s just another idiot who can’t see past his new found tribal loyalty. Fuck off Glenn. You created this monster.

    • Count Awesome

      “Dear diary,
      I wish Stalin we’re still alive too, also.”
      –Greenwald

    • Wild Cat

      Comey. Giuliani. The NYC FBI. Mole in the media slandering HRC. Corrupt state bureaucrats suppressing the vote.
      Yup. As deep fucking state sabotage as you could get.
      But we’re in a post-truth existence now.

  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    Ahem: I believe the quote is: What tedious fuckery is this? – but I’m no Shakespear scholar….

    • hudson srinivasan

      thee hehe he said shakes pears

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        If you don’t like my peaches, don’t climb my tree…

        • hudson srinivasan

          love it. imma steal that.

    • BadKitty904

      A pox on’t!

  • Joe Beese

    House and Senate Democrats have wondered for months if Bernie Sanders’ supporters might choose to focus their energy on launching primary challenges to party moderates in 2018. They’re about to get an answer.

    Sanders has decided the moment is right to launch his proposal for the single-payer health insurance system that helped form the backbone of his presidential message. And Democrats who don’t get behind it could find themselves on the wrong side of the most energetic wing of the party — as well as the once and possibly future presidential candidate who serves as its figurehead.

    The Vermont senator himself has not explicitly said he’ll support primary challenges to those who won’t support his push for a so-called Medicare-for-all health care plan. But there are plenty of signs that Sanders and his allies view the issue as a defining moment for Democratic lawmakers.

    “Our view is that within the Democratic Party, this is fast-emerging as a litmus test,” said Ben Tulchin, the pollster for Sanders’ White House run.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/07/bernie-sanders-democrats-medicare-primaries-241388

    • yyyaz

      Better late than never. Good.

    • Left Coast Tom

      Sanders has decided the moment is right to launch his proposal for the
      single-payer health insurance system that helped form the backbone of
      his presidential message.

      That’s cool.

      Is he going to do the actual policy work of developing a workable path to “single-payer”, or is he going to wave his hands and chant “single-payer” like he did in 2016?

      “Single-payer” was on the ballot in CO last year…it got 20%. It got 27% in CA in 1994. Maybe less chanting and more work would be something advocates might consider?

      • Joe Beese

        Buzzkill.

      • hudson srinivasan

        this guy is overdoing it. but unfortunately, he will carry the momentum because he’s the only one that’s rattling. The other people who have deep thoughts on this like Hillary and Obama are silent. C’mon Hillary/Obama show leadership.

        • Left Coast Tom

          So…do the actual policy work?

          As I understand “single payer”, as a concept, already polls as a majority. Actual plans, presented to voters, suck ass.

          Single payer advocates don’t need cheerleaders, they need workers to put some actual meat on their policy proposals so voters don’t keep laughing at them.

          (They also need to be clear about their goals – “single payer” is only one way of paying for “universal coverage”, there are others. What’s our goal? “Universal coverage” seems like a very good goal. “Single payer” – if you spend decades bashing your head against a wall without getting to universal coverage, why not look for other ways of getting there?)

          • hudson srinivasan

            agree. this guy is pamphleteering. krugman today had an article precisely about this.

            i cannot add anything original that others have not asked already. one thing concerns me though is why is basic HC so expensive, irrespective of how it is paid for?

          • Left Coast Tom

            To my mind that’s the right answer to ask in the US. We’re spending, last time I checked, 17% of GDP on health care, while peer countries spend 9 to 11%. Obamacare includes a provision that insurers must refund policy payments exceeding 85% of the actual cost of providing health care.

            So, the biggest problem here, I think, lies more with how we provide health care than how we pay for it.

    • SalemWitch65

      No Slanders single payer is stolen from Hillary..liek he steals every thing else..the best thing slanders could do for the country is get lost! Where the h*ll was he when Hillary proposed health care reform in 1993??? Sitting on his dead a**!https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/14/1501210/-Where-Was-Sanders-on-Health-Care-in-93-and-94-Against-the-Clintons

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        I can’t believe this is the second time I’ve posted this today.

        Universal, quality, affordable health care for everyone in America

        Hillary Clinton has led and will continue to lead the fight to expand health care access for every American—even when it means standing up to special interests. When insurance companies spent millions to stop her efforts to reform health care in the ’90s, she refused to give up. Instead, she worked across the aisle to help pass the Children’s Health Insurance Program. Today, it covers 8 million kids. She has never given up on the fight for universal coverage.

        https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/health-care/

        But no, we don’t have this because she gave speeches to Goldman Sachs.

  • Picabo

    Tomorrow’s forecast for Bedminster, NJ is mostly cloudy with a slight chance of rain. So hope we get a reprieve from Two Scoops as he plays golf and gets off the Twitter.

    • yyyaz

      Any lightning votes in the forecast?

      • Picabo

        No

      • Count Awesome

        “Go stand under that really tall tree Mr. President. You’ll be completely safe during this thunder and lightning storm.”
        –The Secret Service

        • Willert

          hold your one iron straight up in the air, Lee Trevino says not even god can hit a one iron

      • therblig

        is there a prayer for that?

        • mancityRed6

          *goes to the little book of prayer*
          “may they get what they deserve”
          uh huh

      • hudson srinivasan

        right during the back swing? although titanium does not conduct well. but even a fraction of the potential drop should be a good smack on the bum.

    • Left Coast Tom

      Mostly cloudy strikes me as a terrible summertime forecast, but as a Californian I may not be understanding this right…?

      • Picabo

        He can play golf if is not raining.

    • hudson srinivasan

      i’ve started to notice other news on news streams.

      • BadKitty904

        I continue to not watch the news, streaming or otherwise. And yet the sun still rises each morning…

        • hudson srinivasan

          right? it’s like there’s a whole different world out there that does not care for any of this.

  • leota2

    Yeah—-eff Greenwald and the pick-up truck full of bullshit he always rides in on.

  • Occam’s 8 ball

    Shut up Evan. Trump is not as dangerous as the neocons because he is incompetent, a coward, a narcissist and isn’t an ideologue. I would like to hear in more detail how to compare and contrast war crimes, genocide, the slaughter of people not much unlike you and me. Is Hillary Clinton in a better position today to beat Trump than she was in November?

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      uhhhh, no, cause she’s not running.

      And what mention of neocons was m ade?

      Also, WTF are you even trying to say? I’ve read it three times.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      104 comments. New crew in the boiler room?

      • Left Coast Tom

        Da, tovarich.

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        It’s his shift.

        • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

          They’re sure still worried about Hillary, do they know something we don’t?

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          I thought they were all working the Kamala thread

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Still?

          • JMP

            Yeah, I was shocked to find there’s still more of them showing up, and repeating the exact same idiotic arguments and disproven lies.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Over and over and over

            It’s the invasion of the Paultards 2.0

          • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

            So I finally figured that the one troll was going on and on about Ben Norton at Salon, who claimed that a hacked email about focusing on the more “extreme” GOP candidates – meaning Trump, Cruz, and Carson, who were all leading candidates at various times – proved that Hillary had magical powers over the entire GOP primary to install Trump as her chosen opponent. (And also that the Democratic primary was rigged and so on.)

          • JMP

            They STILL keep pushing that rigged bullshit; it doesn’t matter that it’s not only been debunked but also proven to be Russian propaganda, these folks can’t accept that their messiah was beaten by that hated woman in the primary fair and square so they just go way off into conspiracy theory land.

            Of course a lot of them are the same “leftists” who like Glenn insist that we the mountains of evidence of Russian interference in the election that could never have actually happened, and is just a made up distraction from looking at the real issue, which is that Hillary lost because she was the worst candidate ever because she doesn’t have a penis.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Lolwut?

          • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

            Who can successfully rig primaries of two different parties, but not a general election? No wonder she lost.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Well, that’s just silly.

          • Persistent Demme

            Yeah.
            I got a post responding to me (3 days later!), and I would’ve responded too, if I hadn’t left my Cyrillic keyboard in my pants!
            (They must be around here somewhere.)

    • WomanInThePersistence

      I don’t believe we’ve met. This is not a charming beginning.

    • jesterpunk
    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      He’s also rash, stupid, easy to influence, prone to lash out when insulted, and a bully. That is not someone I want within a hundred miles of the ability to use our military arsenal.

    • aktlib101

      What war crimes and genocide did “Hillary” commit, tovarisch? Iraq? Afghanistan? Tens of thousands killed and maimed. But I thought those were Bush/Cheney crimes…no?

    • HazooToo

      Wow! What a great and insightful post! Go fuck yourself!

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      Wow. You’re a complete bellend.

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        And a quitter too! Hit, run, and vamoose!

    • FauxAntocles

      He ain’t done yet.

    • hudson srinivasan

      Is Hillary Clinton in a better position today to beat Trump than she was in November?

      Man-o-man? Physically? I bet, she could thulp the crap out of him any given day.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Hurrrr durrrr

    • persistently_resistant_gayby
    • Rags

      Da.

    • Seamus Romney
  • WomanInThePersistence

    Just because the recent generational unpleasantness made me look for songs. And I really like this one. And not to get all sappy, but I like you folks.

    https://youtu.be/xh-5FI21s6M

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      fuckin’ hell, do i love this song.

      Tried to learn how to play it – but it’s a bastard and a half.

      • jesterpunk
        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          lol, it’s not the notes.

          It’s that i’m a shitty guitar player with no strength in my chord hand.

          ; P

          • Toomush_Inferesistance

            I have that problem. Left handed, I should have reversed the strings 50 years ago. Try using modes and pick it out…

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            pfft, what i need is practice, and i don’t do it.

            Jimi was said to practice obsessively. Stevie Ray Vaughn practice Jimi’s music obssessively.

            I’m obsessive, but mostly about beer.

            ; P

          • Toomush_Inferesistance

            Practice is overrated. Playing with friends and family, priceless…

          • jesterpunk

            Try playing the other way and see if that helps.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            fuck, I’m still figuring out muted chords on my dominant hand.

          • jesterpunk

            I can do those accidentally when I am playing. I just find songs I like to learn and droning stuff like Sonic Youth or punk are pretty easy to play.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i have guitarsmith…have you tried it?

            Fuck even the Ramones tune is a bitch.

            (contrary to punk dogma, it REQUIRES you to hit every chord/note perfectly)

          • jesterpunk

            I haven’t tried that game, I just look on songsterr or riffstation for songs and try and play a long.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            eh, rocksmith is kinda like that. Not a ton of punk songs…it’s basically guitar hero with real guitars.

            For $50 or so, it’s not bad.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    Has Glenn fucked himself yet? The circus needs another act for their freak show and they’re tired of the chimps.

  • Me The People

    Nothing hurts democracy more than resisting fascism, eh GG?

    To think that I used to defend this piece of shit…what a mistake that was.

    • Komsumverweigerer Ron

      We learn. We grow.

  • Joe Beese

    Audible, the audiobooks company, is really going balls out now. They’ve hired Cesar Millan to tell us that playing audiobooks while you’re gone can keep your dog calm.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axRmnQSYMNM

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      He would make a terrible cat whisperer….

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      The book whisperer

  • aktlib101
  • HazooToo

    General Discus bitch #341: Goddammit no, I do not want to go to the “comments only” page, because it doesn’t load pictures, gifs or video, STOP SENDING ME THERE WHEN I TRY TO CLICK UPVOTE!

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef
      • HazooToo

        YES! Best part of the entire movie!

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      Disqus seems to be getting more worserer recently.

      • HazooToo

        Is our internet learning? … No. No it are not.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Disqus is clever that way — it knows when I’m going to click on an up arrow, and right at that very moment it reloads, causing the page to shift and cause me to hit a link to someone’s profile, or the page where the gif came from. I’m not sure how it knows I’m going to click something before I know it, but I’m guessing it’s Russians.

      • HazooToo

        It is always Russians!

  • wait! what?
  • WomanInThePersistence

    Just because. This is the music of my people.

    https://youtu.be/kTCBdgOlP4o

    • BadKitty904

      What, exactly, is a “blue swede”?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo-qweh7nbQ

      • TJ Barke

        Someone from Sweden that feels a little down?

        • BadKitty904

          I was thinking it was some variety of root vegetable.

          • Amy!

            Yeah, if it’s turned blue, it needs to go into the compost.

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        Just a Swede….

      • WomanInThePersistence

        A very cold person from Stockholm?

      • Anna Rompage

        Clubbing music, much like Abba in the 21st century, with a tribal bent?

        • BadKitty904

          That woad make sense.

          • Anna Rompage

            Yah, it does. Please pass the lutefisk!

    • BosGrl

      Yes. Yes it is.

  • I am loving the MSNBC promo with Chris Hayes and Al Gore talking about Game of Thrones vs The Administration

  • Me The People

    In the GOP newspeak, it is impossible even to articulate thoughts about climate change:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/aug/07/usda-climate-change-language-censorship-emails

    “A missive from Bianca Moebius-Clune, director of soil health, lists
    terms that should be avoided by staff and those that should replace
    them. “Climate change” is in the “avoid” category, to be replaced by
    “weather extremes”. Instead of “climate change adaption”, staff are
    asked to use “resilience to weather extremes”.

    The primary cause of human-driven climate change is also targeted,
    with the term “reduce greenhouse gases” blacklisted in favor of “build
    soil organic matter, increase nutrient use efficiency”. Meanwhile,
    “sequester carbon” is ruled out and replaced by “build soil organic
    matter”.”

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      Oh this’ll help. Given that crops can be grown 50 miles further north than previously every decade, I’m sure this forward-thinking from the exec branch will go a long way.

      • Rags

        And lose 50 miles off the southern end of their growth range.

    • aktlib101

      Sure, we should hide our heads in the sand, maybe “climate change” will go away? Da, R-turds?

    • Komsumverweigerer Ron

      That’s some doubleplusgood duckspeak.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Also, rising sea levels are now “more widespread surfing opportunities.”

  • Picabo

    How does a convicted felon get into the White House?
    “Jim Bakker, the disgraced former televangelist who reinvented himself as an End Times prepper pitchman following his time in prison, was among the dozens of evangelical leaders who were brought to the White House recently to meet with members of President Trump’s administration.”
    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/end-times-prepper-pastor-jim-bakker-was-invited-to-the-white-house/

    • Anna Rompage

      Mike pence….

    • Amy!

      D’not forget D’nesh D’souza.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos