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They tried to stop it. Sort of.

The Washington Post has published a HOLY WOW investigation into the Obama administration’s efforts (and lack of efforts) to stop the Russian hacking disaster of the 2016 election that led to the election of Donald Trump, and if there was ever a time where we’d say “OH JUST GO READ IT,” this is one of those times. Basically, the story is that President Obama tried to do things to stop the attack, and some people wanted to do more things, but they were all obsessed with not looking like they were being “political” about the election that they didn’t act (enough) until it was too late. Also, everybody really really really thought Hillary Clinton was so far ahead she would win anyway, so they weren’t that worried they might end up handing responsibility for punishing Russia to a guy who may or may not be a foreign intelligence asset of Russia.

One of the most newsy things in the report is about the day in August when the CIA sent a super top secret “eyes only” message to the White House that said “Whoa if true, but we literally have intelligence that says not only is Russia doing this, but Vladimir Putin is leading the operation, and it’s made to hurt Hillary Clinton and hopefully get Trump elected.” OK fine, the CIA probably didn’t say “WHOA IF TRUE,” but otherwise that’s the gist:

The intelligence captured Putin’s specific instructions on the operation’s audacious objectives — defeat or at least damage the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, and help elect her opponent, Donald Trump.

This was when the issue officially landed on Obama’s desk. If you’ll remember, it was not long after the conventions, when we were just starting to get a sense of the Russian DNC hacks and whatnot. Yet it took until January for the entire intelligence community and Obama to release a report saying, “Yeah this is what happened and Putin did it and fuck all these guys.”

Part of it was that at the time, only the CIA was sure where the hacking was coming from. What’s funny is that, for the CIA, according to the WaPo, “It was a case that took almost no time to solve, traced to the Kremlin through cyber-forensics and intelligence on Putin’s involvement.”

What happened after that will make you fucking crazy. The Obama administration wanted as much help as it could get, from all branches of government, to punish Russia, to stop the hacking and to make sure our elections would be safe and secure. Unfortunately, it all fell apart. Intelligence agencies dragged their feet on blaming Russia, and weren’t all on the same page until September. They released their report (which Obama didn’t sign, and which didn’t name Putin, for “intelligence reasons”) on October 7 at 3:30 PM, which the WaPo says was actually timed for maximum media play. Unfortunately at around 4:00 PM, the Access Hollywood “Grab Them By The Pussy” tape came out. Then at 4:30 PM or so, WikiLeaks started dropping hot sexxxy emails from the private files of one John Podesta, chair of Hillary Clinton’s campaign. It’s almost like WikiLeaks was working for somebody! (SAYS WHO?)

Meanwhile, Obama and pals wanted to make sure state election systems were secure, and Homeland Security tried to help (just as Obama Homeland Security chief Jeh Johnson testified this week), but a lot of them told DHS to fuck off. For instance, Georgia!

Brian Kemp, the Republican secretary of state of Georgia, used the call to denounce Johnson’s proposal as an assault on state rights. “I think it was a politically calculated move by the previous administration,” Kemp said in a recent interview, adding that he remains unconvinced that Russia waged a campaign to disrupt the 2016 race. “I don’t necessarily believe that,” he said.

The other prong of the Obama approach was to try to get Congress’s attention, in a bipartisan way. Unfortunately, Republicans like Mitch McConnell were like “My goodness, I’m just a common turtle, therefore I’m just not sure Russia did this!” In fact, when McConnell finally said something about it, he merely encouraged states to make sure their voting systems were A-OK, but assured them that it was OK for them to tell the Obama administration to fuck off. Democrats like Dianne Feinstein and Adam Schiff (and Harry Reid!) were out there writing letters and making statements that said “ACHTUNG! IT IS RUSSIA, THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING!” But that was just silly Democrat squabbling, probably, and it was much more fun for the media to read Hillary Clinton’s emails.

And before the election, that was about it! According to the WaPo, in addition to the hacking, Russia experts noticed all the pro-Trump/anti-Hillary Russian propaganda on Facebook, and the FBI and State were freaked by “an unusual spike in requests from Russia for temporary visas for officials with technical skills,” but not much was done about those things. (They did deny those visas.)

And why?

Obama’s approach often seemed reducible to a single imperative: Don’t make things worse. As brazen as the Russian attacks on the election seemed, Obama and his top advisers feared that things could get far worse.

You see, at that point, everybody thought Hillary Clinton was so far ahead that it wouldn’t ultimately matter what Russia did. As Jeh Johnson noted in his testimony, there was this one candidate out there bitching and moaning about how the election was going to be “rigged,” and they didn’t want to do anything more that could be viewed as de-legitimizing Hillary’s impending victory. (Which never came.) Reportedly they also knew how much Putin hated Hillary, and they were worried that if they overtly got involved in the fight, Putin might do more than he already was doing.

Oh, they issued some warnings to Russian officials. Obama yelled at Putin, CIA director John Brennan yelled at his Russian counterpart, and NSA director Susan Rice pulled Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak into her office and gave him detention and a note to get signed by his daddy Vladimir Putin. And the WaPo says Obama people believe their warnings “prompted Moscow to abandon any plans of further aggression, such as sabotage of U.S. voting systems.” Golly we hope that worked, especially now that we’re hearing more and more about just how far into the American election infrastructure Russia actually got.

But then Trump actually won:

“The White House was mortified and shocked,” said a former administration official. “From national security people there was a sense of immediate introspection, of, ‘Wow, did we mishandle this.’ ”

The WaPo notes that at this point, Russia really hasn’t been punished worth dick for this. Oh, Bamz imposed some new sanctions (that were kinda worthless, and that the Trump administration has worked from day one to remove), and he kicked out Russian diplomats and closed those Russian espionage compounds in Maryland (only to have President Trump give them right back!).

However, there is one cyber-bomb Obama left for the Russians, that wasn’t ready for prime-time when Trump was inaugurated:

Obama … approved a previously undisclosed covert measure that authorized planting cyber weapons in Russia’s infrastructure, the digital equivalent of bombs that could be detonated if the United States found itself in an escalating exchange with Moscow.

Oh, how interesting! Apparently, since Obama got the ball rolling on that, Trump would have to step in and personally stop it, so let’s hope it’s happening so far into the Deep State that Trump’s intelligence handlers are keeping it from him. Otherwise, he’ll just kill the program as a sexxxy love gift to his true boyfriend Vladimir Putin.

As we said at the beginning, this report is extensive and crazy and it even includes one of the most thorough timelines of the Russian attack available on the entire World Wide Internets. So you should go READ THE WHOLE THING, as they say on blogs.

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  • Skeptical_thinker

    Pull.The.FUCKING.Trigger!

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    I can only imagine how much thought and debate went into this, but when I read this, I want to scream:

    “Also, everybody really really really thought Hillary Clinton was so far ahead she would win anyway, so they weren’t that worried they might end up handing responsibility for punishing Russia to a guy who may or may not be a foreign intelligence asset of Russia.”

    • mancityRed6

      McConnell said he would play it all out as partisan if anything was said.
      just let that sink in for a moment.

      • FlownΩver

        My nominee for First Up Against the Wall, for so many reasons.

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        At this point I think McConnell would take a dump in the Senate washroom and play it all out as partisan.

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        Oh, it has sunk in. And I think he needs to be arrested for treason.

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        It’s more just that feeling that we had – that Trump COULDN’T win. I want to borrow Obama’s time machine and go back and warn us.

        • Covfefe’s Evil Twin

          very good point. I truly thought I would never have to hear that fucker again or any of his idiot children after 11/8.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        Mitch “Fucking Traitor” McConnell. As nicknames go, it has a nice ring to it, don’t you think?

        • mancityRed6

          do you really need to say Mitch? oh, yeah.
          *looks at Graham, McCain, King, etc. etc.*

      • Covfefe’s Evil Twin

        I wish I believed in Hell, because I would then be able to imagine a very special place for the fucking turtle-faced traitor.

        • mancityRed6

          you and me both, baby. at least there will be nothing when they die, I just wish they would be awake for it.
          hmm, maybe that’s what hell is.

  • msanthropesmr

    I cannot and will not condone Monday morning quarterbacking. (Not implying that’s what Evan is doing). Obama could not win this no matter what he did.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      I agree. I keep reading it and going, “Ok, what I would have done was… uh. Probably drank a bit more?”

      • mancityRed6

        ahh, that is the answer to the eternal question of “what is the meaning of life?”

        • AnnieGetYerFun

          Not 42?

          • C4TWOMAN

            Fucking ninjas….

          • mancityRed6

            that was a ruse.

          • AnnieGetYerFun

            [searches for gif of Tim Curry saying “a red herring” from the movie Clue. Finds nothing useful. Weeps]

          • mancityRed6

            I’ve seen Clue enough times to know.

      • msanthropesmr

        Choom gang.

  • george gonzalez

    Hmm, maybe it is time to “blame Obama”. Being collegial and bipartisan and staesmanlike is all fine. But soft-pedalling an attack on our election system, leading to (possibly) the wrong person getting elected, a person with (almost certainly) secret ties and obligations to Russia, that’s not something to hold back on. I love Obama, but being a cautios and mellow dude is maybe not the best attitude all of the time.

    • Shibusa

      I have thought that too but let’s say the US did do something big to retaliate. I doubt Russia would just lie back and take it. They have a few (more) nasty cyber tricks up their sleeves too, no doubt…

      • C4TWOMAN

        The bigger problem IMO isn’t retaliation, but being on the same page. If USA retaliated with a divided house(Trump/GOP still in charge, undermining the op) it wouldn’t be anywhere near as effective as a Dem front bringing down the hammer of God with a promise of more to come.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Yeah, he wasn’t perfect. He only seems that way now, by contrast. (Boy, does he ever!)

    • alpacapunchbowl

      Sounds to me like it was the IC shuffling its feet on this. Much as I love Obama, there’s plenty that happened on his watch that pissed me off and that he should have done better. Just my personal take, but I can’t blame him for this.

    • BigCSouthside

      Trump definitely wins if obama stepped in. The “it’s rigged” shit was playing, and would have really taken off if O stepped in. It would have been a conspiracy theorist wet dream for the Alex Jones folks

  • MrTusks

    Christ, now the deplorables will blame Obama for letting this happen and yet still say Donnie was elected legitimately and shouldn’t do anything about it.

    • blarg

      Cognitive dissonance level: 10

  • Nounverb911

    Hopefully, one of the cyber bombs was making ALL of putin’s bank accounts disappear.

    • C4TWOMAN

      Crashing power grid including all main utilities. Don’t worry–it’s summer and Russian can do spirit will get the common people through it. Hell, they might take advantage of it for some real change…

    • FlownΩver

      I doubt he’s dumb enough to have his kleptocratic billions all consisting of electrons in the vulnerable ether. There’s a big cache of gold bars with Cyrillic markings stashed somewhere.

  • Marceline

    This was a no win. One only needs to see how willing the Republicans have been to hand control of this country over to a foreign power to see that it would’ve made no difference.

  • proudgrampa

    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t…

  • mancityRed6

    OT, there’s been some shuffling around of duties at work. the machine shop supervisor has other things and so a guy named Forrest is now the boss of us (his nickname is Woody). he called me up to let me know I was on the schedule for Monday since he didn’t post the schedule before I left Wed. there is a company policy of 24 hours notice if you are gonna work overtime which would be 5:30 am on a thursday or wednesday.
    I am surprised he called.

  • laughingnome

    It kinda comes back to Comey looking at Anthony;s Weiner a few days before the election. If only that never happened then Obama’s actions would have worked out. But for the Weiner. Tragic.

  • anwisok
  • bookish
    • mancityRed6

      wasn’t this started from a fake news story?

  • William

    The alarm was sounded concerning the Russian attack on our election process the very same day the video IE, Cheeto Molester bragging to a giggling idiot how tic-tacs and stardom give you license and privilege to commit sexual assault was released. To me, that particular timing of news worthy items seems sinister.

    • laughingnome

      Yes, but that would be some unbelievable brilliant 11th dimension chess to figure that pussy tape would work out to help Trump in some way. WOW!

      • William

        Oh I’d never in a moment suggest Trump possessed even a fraction of the mental fortitude to dream that up.

        • laughingnome

          No, I was thinking/suggesting the Russians did the Access Hollywood release to cover the alarm over the Russian hack.

          Has anyone ever fessed up to releasing that?

          • William

            Interesting point. The GOP of course dubbed it as just another smear flick dug up by Hillary’s evil minions.

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            Not yet. Last I read, the theory was that it might have been Tom Arnold, but that’s a lie.

    • And an hour after that, Wikileaks dumped the Podesta email story. It was a busy day trying to keep up with it all.

      Bottom line, the WaPo story on the hacks got buried by pussy grabbing and emails.

      • William

        Either it’s a crazy coincidence or some entity is eerily familiar with that particular shiny object which will distract Americans from something so horrific as an attack on our very democracy.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      The whole thing sure does seem more orchestrated than a John Williams score.

      • William

        I’m not much for conspiracies but the proven tactic or releasing bad shit about your administration on days where something else is sucking up all the media efforts is pretty much established.

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          It’s basic mitigation. He does the same crap through his twitter account. He did the same thing yesterday ffs, trying to control the narrative by half-assed admitting he lied about the Comey tape in a blatant attempt to get the media to stop reporting on the healthcare debacle.

          It worked, though.

          • William

            Shell game.

    • Covfefe’s Evil Twin

      Would the guys releasing the memo have known that the pussy grabbing tape was coming later that day?

  • Crank Tango

    It’s a good thing Obama didn’t look too political, they might have discontinued his presidency and undid every good thing he ever did as President.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Ha! OK, that’s a good point. But I think it’s more like, when Hillary lost, we would have blamed Obama for it.

      • Persistent Tennessee Rain

        Or, when she won, Republicans would have cried foul, saying there was no Russian interference.

        • AnnieGetYerFun

          Saying there was, right?

          • Persistent Tennessee Rain

            No. Saying there wasn’t Russian interference, but that Obama made it up to give Hillary an edge. But, honestly, this shit is so fucking confusing, my head hurts. The only thing I know for certain is that there was no right thing for Obama to do. The ONLY good outcome would have been for Hillary to have won. As it is, it’s depressing as hell to know for a fact that Trump was not legitimately elected, Republicans don’t care and nutters think it’s nothing but liberals being sore losers.

          • AnnieGetYerFun

            Ooooh! I was never any good at 2-dimensional chess. Never even mind the other kinds.

        • Stulexington

          And this right here is why the Democrats are considered so week. Obama, Comey, made their decisions out of concern for how the Republicans would react. You know who was worried about how the Democrats would react? NO ONE!

      • Stulexington

        Yeah, and that would have been unheard of. Imagine, blaming Obama for something that was beyond his power to control.

  • exinkwretch

    I loved Charlie Pierce’s take on this, but after some reflection, I realize Bamz was in a no-win situation. If he had said, “Screw you, Mitch, you traitorous bastard!” and disclosed, the backlash would have been enormous from the No-Nothings. And they still would have voted Putin ahead of “Killary.” Would it have prompted the Bernie Bros and other lazy-ass types sitting on the sidelines to vote? I doubt it.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Jill Stein (and Bernie) would have been just outraged.

    • sadboy

      Agree. Making a public issue of this would have created a big foreign policy crisis during the campaign that would have turned it into a Wag The Dog scenario. Trump won anyway, but if it had gone down differently, it would have given the GOP an excuse to cover the whole thing up as ‘unfounded rumor and speculation’. Which they are finding much harder to do, at present.

  • William
  • C4TWOMAN


    Brian Kemp, the Republican secretary of
    state of Georgia, used the call to denounce Johnson’s proposal as an assault on state rights. “I think it was a politically calculated move by the previous administration,” Kemp said in a recent interview, adding that he remains unconvinced that Russia waged a campaign to disrupt the
    2016 race. “I don’t necessarily believe that,” he said.

    So what? He believes the CIA is lying it’s ass off? Inventing evidence? In which case why is he still working in public service? This level of denial makes no sense.

    • laughingnome

      This is the result of brainwashing by the GOP. These guys put party above country every time – and do that in the name of some kind of super patriotism. It’s sick.

      • C4TWOMAN

        I can’t wait to see what would happen in the case of a real alien invasion: space cruisers, not taco trucks.
        Oh wait, that was an SNL skit:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrkJM4JUB28

      • William

        THat and religion. Somehow these idiots equate “conservatism” with all things Goddish.

    • William

      Ahem. Minor point. In Georgia it’s referred to as “States Rots”. Thank you.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      This also speaks to the inherent flaw in our federal election system – the idea that elections for federal offices should be managed (procedure-wise) by a patchwork of state election laws.

    • elviouslyqueer

      Um, I believe this would be a clear case of “why should we listen to some uppity nigger?”

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Got it in one.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      “States rights!” is southern speak for “crooked as hell and racist as well”, fyi.

  • Sedagive ’em Hell

    Thanks Obama.

    • Angry Red Bird DGAF

      :(

  • UnsaltedSinner

    The main reason the Russian plot worked is simple: Republicans don’t mind outside interference so long as it helps them, so they would obviously never go along with any measure that would prevent it. Whatever one thinks about the way the Obama administration handled this, there was nothing they could do with that.

    • laughingnome

      I agree. If it was uncovered that Hillary was being helped by Russians, Democrats would have probably renounced her and tried to rescind their nomination of her for president.

      • William

        Your observation is spot on. Democrats will shit-can a perv (Anthony Weiner) is a New York second. Republiclowns don’t really care, as long as you’re not brown or a woman.

    • laughingnome

      To buttress your point – in 1968 Nixon’s team worked with the Vietnamese to sabotage peace talks before the election. There is also evidence that Reagan’s people (George Bush) met with Iranians to make sure the hostages were not released before the 1980 election. This is a longstanding tactic in the GOP playbook.

    • coozledad

      The Confederates have been looking for an ally since the English and French stiffed them in their last war for racism. Russia is the ideal match. Backward, racist, a nation where poor white knows his job is to drink buckets of piss and pray a lot.

      Russia is looking for a partner in self immolation. The Republicans couldn’t resist opening their legs for this come on.

      • Ironically, the Russian Empire was on Abe Lincoln’s side in that war.

        • Lamashtar

          I think its more accurate that Russia was against the British and French empires.

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    When the opposition has adopted a “win at all costs” mentality, it makes it very difficult to get them to recognize blatant and overt cheating.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    In political terms, Russia’s interference was the crime of the century, an unprecedented and largely successful destabilizing attack on American democracy. It was a case that took almost no time to solve, traced to the Kremlin through cyber-forensics and intelligence on Putin’s involvement. And yet, because of the divergent ways Obama and Trump have handled the matter, Moscow appears unlikely to face proportionate consequences.

    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsqalzGNII1qawewr.gif

  • Villago Delenda Est

    “Well, I could have said something about this, but the Rethugs would have screamed about it, and that wouldn’t help anyone.”

    Let’s just shitcan the entire experiment in self-governance, then.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    “It is the hardest thing about my entire time in government to defend,” said a former senior Obama administration official involved in White House deliberations on Russia. “I feel like we sort of choked.”

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo91pxPOa61qakh43o1_500.gif

  • Pinkham’s Law

    OT, but thought y’all would be interested.

    Hubby said I could do it (without begging or nagging on my part, even!), so . . .

    On August 21, there will be a total eclipse of the sun all across the USA. Columbia, SC – where Yr Wonkette happens to live – will be a prime viewing location. Therefore: SOLAR ECLIPSE DRINKIE THING AT PINKIE’S PLACE!!!

    I’ve got seating for about 50, plates/napkins/flatware/wine glasses, lots n lots of street parking, coolers/tubs for beer/wine. The pool will be open, so bring your suit (or not, depending on how shy you are – Pinks don’t care!). I’m tentatively planning to make Gazpatcho, Pulled Pork BBQ, Cole Slaw & German Potato Salad.

    Attendees need to bring their own beer/wine/bud and a good attitude. Food to share would also too be welcome!

    This is no longer hypothetical. Who’s in?

    • mancityRed6

      I’m gonna go downtown KC, thanks for the offer though.

    • Oh I so hope I can! Got lots of shit going on, but as the time comes closer I’ll let you know (if there’s still room).

    • Major_Major_Major

      We will actually be in Western NC that week, so put the M^3s as tentative.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      I’ll be watching it a bit early from darkest Salem, OR.

    • chortlingdingo

      Alas, I live too far away from you. Sounds like a lot of fun though!

    • I would love to, but I have a very strict “no visiting ‘murrica while Dampnut is in charge” policy. It’s really the only sensible policy to have, if you have the means to pull it off.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      OMG that sounds so wonderful!! My grandbaby’s first birthday is two days later, though, in far western KY, so I’m a maybe. But thank you for the invite. {{{hugs}}}

    • Lamashtar

      I’m about 3 hours away. Lemme go through my alcohol collection.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Not to be outdone by ‘Merka’s staggering display of stupidity, Turkey looks to match our level of idiocy as fast as possible.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-education-evolution-idUSKBN19E1RA

    • TJ Barke
    • weejee

      Bliss, all this pious pontificates want us ignorant and full of bliss.

      Turkey’s Mullahs can pontificate as well as the enabling Cardinal Timmy Dolan.

    • Stulexington

      It’s not a fucking contest! Seriously UK better not start again.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    At a public security conference in Aspen, Colo., in late July, Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. noted that Russia had a long history of meddling in American elections but that U.S. spy agencies were not ready to “make the call on attribution” for what was happening in 2016.

    “We don’t know enough . . . to ascribe motivation,” Clapper said. “Was this just to stir up trouble or was this ultimately to try to influence an election?”

    And what better way to stir up trouble but to get Donald to the White House?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13bcd5012a7d6f08035b2bad2034ccdc28b2a1425281cfb164029d5c7b667dbb.jpg

  • Crystalclear12

    OK, I’ve decided to blame Mitch.

  • Randy Riddle

    Who says key Republicans in Congress weren’t already talking with and helping the Russians?

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Noboby I know.

  • Sedagive ’em Hell

    Let’s give this country back to the native peoples from whom it was stolen, apologize for the mess, and start again.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      I’m ready to head back home to England, Scotland (via Northern Ireland), The Netherlands, or Germany, whoever will take me.

      • everstar

        I would quite happily move to England, especially now that I know about Lord Buckethead.

        • TakingAmes

          OMG, Lord Buckethead is the best! I love SO MUCH that John Oliver flew him to the States just so he could stand on stage amongst laser lights.

      • Maggielle

        If we go by which ancestor got here most recently, I’m headed for Bavaria, although I’m mostly Scottish/Irish/English. Bavaria. I mean, yay (for the most part) Angela Merkle. But Bavaria. I’m old, so I grew up with plenty of kids who had no other surviving relatives than their parents, because Nazis. Now the US is heading for a similar legacy of “Ew, America. Can’t we just tell them we were Canadian?” I’m not comparing histories, I’m being totally superficial about the Ick Factor.

  • jaspersdad

    Is Trump seriously claiming credit for Comey telling the truth now?

    After weeks of claiming Comey lied?

    Have they now just stopped even trying to hide their insanity?

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Yes.

    • canes_pugnaces

      Mind you he takes credit for the English language, too.

    • Reince Pubis

      While simultaneously insisting that Comey’s statements about loyalty and “I hope you’ll let this go” are lies.

    • He very clearly has some form of dementia.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    I really, really wish there were tapes of Mitch McConnell promising to make the issue a partisan political one when it was brought up. That is treason and he should be arrested and tried.

    EAT: and convicted and jailed

    • Vincent Ricola

      On a similar note, I don’t understand why the tape of Paul Ryan giggling with his team of jerkoffs about who is bought and paid for by Russia just went away? It seems like that should’ve gotten a bit more attention.

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        If Hillary hadn’t gone and killed that staffer in DC for collaborating with Wikileaks…

        • Vincent Ricola

          Lock her up.

    • h4rr4r

      Jailed?

      Sir or Madam,
      We are at war. The constitutional penalty for Treason at a time of war is not jail.

      • Reince Pubis

        I’m not a lawyer, but I read a lot, and I think it would be difficult to charge anyone with treason specifically because we aren’t at war.

        • h4rr4r

          So we shot down a Mig while not a war?

          • Reince Pubis

            We shot down a Syrian jet, but we’re certainly not at war

        • arglebargle

          We are always at war with eurasia.

          • Reince Pubis

            EASTasia

          • Yellerduck

            Them too.

          • arglebargle

            why not both?

        • Stulexington

          So you wait for Trump to declare war and martial law to avoid getting thrown out on his ass and then charge them all with treason?

          • Reince Pubis

            I think the most likely charges are conspiracy, obstruction, abd charges related to the hacking.

          • Stulexington

            But what about their comeuppance for all their stanch support of capital punishment?

          • Reince Pubis

            Hmm, I’m afraid none of those charges carry the death penalty.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    To some, Obama’s determination to avoid politicizing the Russia issue had the opposite effect: It meant that he allowed politics to shape his administration’s response to what some believed should have been treated purely as a national security threat.

    Ding ding fucking ding!

    • Obama did take the issue up with the GOP in congress to make them aware of the issue as a security threat.

      They didn’t fucking care.

      • elviouslyqueer

        And now the GOP has the GODDAMN nerve to try and play the whole “obstructionist” card with the Democrats.

        • OutOfOrbit

          The GOP is nothing if not audacious,

          • vivian

            The hopelessness of audacity.

    • OutOfOrbit

      That is how I feel. Now crying over spilled milk. Did anybody learn anything? Was it even a teachable moment?

    • laughingnome

      BUT if he was confident she would win so he thought he didn’t have to play that political card.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        looks like he thought wrong

    • C4TWOMAN

      I understand why he played it that way. He wanted to avoid a dumpster fire and constitutional crisis. But we got a dumpster fire anyway, except without any means to control it.

      There was never a way to appease the GOP, so the surest way would have been to make a big stink about espionage and foreign collusion. Would it have sounded over the top if Hillary had won? Maybe, but they could have easily defended their actions as patriots.

      It’s an understandable urge of well educated leftists to want to avoid a fight. But there was always going to be a fight. The best you can do it pick the time and place and have it on your own terms.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        The GOP starts a bar fight and we try to deescalate by singing Kumbaya

        • C4TWOMAN

          Exactly. This is really more a problem with culturally middle-class leftists. Working class leftists will be all “You want trouble? Here’s trouble!”
          *POW*

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    No, no, no, no. President Obama did his job. He was just the President. He did his job and made Congress aware of the threat. It was up to Congress to authorize the response.

  • Crystalclear12
    • Villago Delenda Est

      “There’s no ‘Benghazi’ in Russia, so who gives a flying fuck? Amirite?”

      • weejee

        Would be short-lived. They have the sekret polonium vaccine.

    • not_vh

      and he will still win his re-election. that is the tragedy.

      • Stulexington

        Even if he doesn’t, in 8 years the right will be begging him to come back.

    • C4TWOMAN

      Looks like he’s trying to shift all the blame, er, responsibility to Meuller….

  • Angry Red Bird DGAF

    I’m sorry to say this but the most that will happen from a report like this is that Obama will be blamed by the Republicans and Trump. Once the investigations show that the Trump campaign was helped by the Russians, you will see a sudden pivot to blaming the previous administration for not protecting us from them. And yes, even members of the Trump administration who are guilty of helping them will still blame Obama.

    • marxalot

      At least I will get a little bizarre joy out of the spectacle of Trump blaming Obama for Trump.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      He already did that the other day on twitter. I am not joking.

    • jesterpunk

      https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/877889199353077760

      https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/877879361130688512

      Its a hoax and fake news but its Obama’s fault for not doing anything about it.

      • Angry Red Bird DGAF

        Well I guess I’m good at thinking like Trump. Lord help me.

        • jesterpunk

          You can find a Trump tweet for just about anything. This makes it easier.

          http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/archive

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            He does have over 30 thousand tweets.

          • Angry Red Bird DGAF

            So it’s not a medical condition? Just coincidence?

          • chortlingdingo

            Christ that’s a lot of twittering. I finally deleted mine earlier this year because in 8 years of having an account, I only tweeted 83 times.

            How much of his time is spent on twitter?!

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            I have no idea. I don’t even have a Twitter account anymore. Had one when it first came out but never tweeted anything. Now? can’t even!

            I know from just casually looking at his feed that he tweets upwards of four times or more when he’s super terrified. He tweets mostly early mornings, when he’s on the can, or when he sees something on TV that irritates his little man-baby skin.

      • Raan

        Wow, contradicted himself in 39 minutes. I’d say it was a record if I hadn’t seen him do it in two sentences.

        • jesterpunk

          He has done it in the same sentence before.

  • O/T

    Lede on CNN.com now:

    Sean Spicer holds audio only press briefing, watch on CNN.

    The most trusted name in oxymorans.

    • Vincent Ricola

      One thing I will begrudgingly give CNN credit for doing is using the most unflattering pictures of Sean Spicer (and SHS yesterday) possible for these audio-only pressers.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        I’ve noticed a lot of outlets doing that. AP and Reuters have a particularly strong “pick the derpiest photo of this asshole you can find” game.
        If I wasn’t so lazy, I’d start an instagram feed dedicated to aggregating the images.

        • Vincent Ricola

          That sounds amazing. Do it!

          • alpacapunchbowl

            I should, shouldn’t I :)

    • Stulexington

      So now he’s literally phoning it in.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      How long before Spicey is just replaced by an old Teddy Ruxpin?

      • Coldfish

        Max Headroom

  • canes_pugnaces

    More interesting that what Obama didn’t do in daylight, is the big zero that Tumplskinflint has done. It’s almost like he is on Putin’s side. No collusion. No collusion. You’re the collusion.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Just finished the WaPo story. If anyone needs me, I’ll be screaming and cursing in the corner.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      I was where you are now about four hours ago. This whole thing is pure rage fuel.

    • I’m already in that corner cursing and what not. There’s room for one more.

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        There’s plenty of room here under the sink.

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    I know exactly how to get Donnie to own up to this.

    “You know, it was very smart of you to collude with the Russians.”

    • mancityRed6

      honestly, that just might work. accuse him of infinity level chess, play up to his “intelligence”.
      and get it all on tape.

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        Well, it already DID work. Fox got him to admit that he deliberately tried to intimidate Comey by simply saying it was a “smart” thing.

        He also used to gush all the time about Vlad calling him “brilliant”.

        • mancityRed6

          you mean that one time that they misinterpreted him? yeah, I remember that.

          • marxalot

            “flashy” says what

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            I think the actual word was something like “shiny” but more along the lines of “flashy”. My wife knows the actual Russian word and she says it’s shorthand for “shiny but stupid”.

          • marxalot

            “glittery” in the same way that a magpie’s trash heap is

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            That’s the word. “Glittery”. It’s a Russian idiom is how it was explained to me.

          • mancityRed6

            that is it, and they told him Putin thought he was all smart and stuff. w
            what a maroon.

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          • formerChild

            Flamboyant

          • Ducksworthy

            Yeah. The Russian word does not translate as Brilliant. It has more to do with old cabbage soup.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Boy, I dunno what your pre-existing condition is, but it must be that you’re smart. I think you’re exactly right!!

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        Yeah, pull the other one.

    • AJ Milne

      Could totally picture this working…

      … assuming he doesn’t randomly just declare as much on his own, first, same as with ‘Yeah, I totally fired Comey to try make the Russia investigation go away’.

    • rooster2k2

      ThenwholenRussia thing is crumbling down around you, turn on CNN! Who’s gonna make up the next fake scandal?

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    OT: Tried twice. Both times the jury deadlocked.
    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/878323775888015362

    • mancityRed6

      I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
      jeebus, my common man is an idiot.

    • h4rr4r

      Third time’s the charm?

  • canes_pugnaces

    I read the WaPo piece with my coffee this morning, whilst sitting in Riverside Park with my dog (who is on her 365th straight day of shedding). Over thinking was always Obama’s Achilles Heel. However, he really was between a rock and hard place. Having said that I almost went back upstairs and poured myself a single malt.

    • h4rr4r

      Does every city have a riverside park?

      • canes_pugnaces

        Good question. Presumably it is limited to cities with river sides. NYC has a hell of a Riverside Park.

      • mancityRed6

        Lawrence, KS has a riverside dog park, but you can’t not see the cars backed into the spaces.
        pro tip: if the cars are backed in at a park, they’re looking for illicit sex.

        • canes_pugnaces

          John Brown!

        • h4rr4r

          What makes the sex illicit?

          • mancityRed6

            because their gay and probably married at the same time.
            cheaters.
            they did a bust of a park down in joplin and someone the girlfriend’s family knew got strung up in it.
            it’s just bad all around.

          • h4rr4r

            Sounds like the bust was the problem.

            I don’t see the value in prosecuting consenting adults.

          • mancityRed6

            it was. the rainbow might start in Frisco but it ends in Joplin. they have at least one openly gay bar, since at least the mid ’90s. I should know, someone tried to pick me up on that premise, and a friend of mine played a show there.

        • arglebargle
          • mancityRed6

            they do that in the UK, too. I was confused when I saw the ex trying so hard. why? all the spots are small, why?

    • Crystalclear12

      Next time bring the single malt with you. Time saver when you’re reading about politics these days.

      • canes_pugnaces

        Good point. I need to get a new flask. I lost mine.

        • AJ Milne

          Camelbak has some nice ones, I find.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    The blame for this clearly needs to be placed at the feet of one group: The Republicans. If they didn’t create such a poisonous, win at all costs atmosphere starting with Bill Clinton then we wouldn’t be in this mess. The fact that the Obama administration had to consider the politics of bringing to light a credible threat to our democracy just shows how far the Republican party has trashed this country for their ill gotten gains.

    • mancityRed6

      so, Newt. You blame Newt?
      yeah, so do I.

      • bookish

        Always. Detestable little shit. My mom was old school Republican and she despised Newt.

      • Everrett Fanuelli

        I blame Newt and the entire Republican establishment including the over-macho jingoism “rah-rah” America stuff created by the right. They’re playbook was that intellectualism is bad, men should be men and winning is all that counts. And too many stupid rubes feel hook, line and sinker for that shit.

        • Ducksworthy

          911, 911, Benghazi, Benghazi, USA USA

        • rooster2k2

          Well then I blame you for the pussification of the country. Fucking 8 year old picks up a doll and their parents start dressing them in girl clothes…!You fuckers are bat shit crazy and just got rejected by the masses. Go back in your fucking holes….

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        I blame that fat fuck for SO much, including my own fatness.

        • mancityRed6

          I want to see him in public so bad
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e6e205b0f4fd1a586842635cbbac32f9edb6d982eaf2cb6385f8590720f5c35f.jpg
          so we can play cricket, obviously.

          • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

            Cricket? Nobody understands cricket! You gotta know what a crumpet is to understand cricket!”
            “I’ll teach you.” *WHACK!* “See? Six runs.”

          • mancityRed6

            I’ll go for a century.

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        • rooster2k2

          so you admit to being a fat liberal pig?

    • William Cook for now

      Have you seen Get Me Roger Stone?

      If I had a time machine, I’d be stopping by the sixties on my was home from the 1920s.

    • rooster2k2

      Too funny, you live in a bubble. Barry knew about this for months and did nothing because Hillary was the winner!

      Are you a male or female sheep? Bhaa, bhaa…. I think they speak the same

  • Coldfish

    If you take a step back and look at our country as a whole, and then take a big-ass step further back, and look at society as a whole, you’ll see that there truly are the rich and the poor…. and the difference isn’t public housing v. house in the suburbs, but much more extreme. Think of the middle ages:

    You’ve got the guy who sells apples on the street, the beggar, the cleaning lady, etc… basically, “the poor and the working poor”. Then, you’ve got the guy who owns a little tavern, a black-smith with a few workers; “the middle class”. the next step is the duke, who has more than the equivalent wealth of ALL the people on his lands.

    I think some politicians and their most wealthy supporters have really moved us past “countries” and onto some kind of global feudalism. Kings and Queens, Dukes and Duchesses. You may have a war with France or Germany or Russia or wherever, but when it comes down to it, during those times, it was only with revolutions that the people at the top were ever really punished.

    The new GOP is supporting people who have the following values: yourself, your family, other wealthy people in your country, other wealthy people outside your country, and then…. perhaps.. your citizenry…. at least those who helped you get elected.

    That is why Trump doesn’t give a crap that Putin attacked our elections.

  • Jenny

    I was just discussing this with libertarians at work. The response but America does worse. All government is bad!

    • The Green Bastard

      Idiot children.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      That’s brilliant. So I guess you can shake them down for lunch money. After all someone else would do worse, right?

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Did you ask them when they’re moving out of their mom’s basement?

    • mancityRed6

      you can’t come in the break room, those are the wrong style of shoes.

    • kaydenpat

      You can’t argue with Libertarians. Look at Glenn Greenwald. He’s all in for the current regime and has pooh poohed evidence that Russia interfered with our last presidential election — facts be damned.

      • jesterpunk

        Greenwald is an ass and caused the whole thing with Reality Winner and even after he got the documents (that he then turned over to the NSA) he still said he hasnt seen any proof.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      See? I don’t get that logic. If someone is literally murdering you, you don’t think “well, we did worse to him”.

    • Vincent Ricola

      I work with those types. The best is when they follow their bad government talk up with their “patriotic” cred lecture about a 2nd cousin that was in the Army for a little while in 1996.

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        There’s a thin line between patriotism and nationalism. Some people would be better served keeping that in mind.

  • jaspersdad

    We all need to be Zola.

    https://youtu.be/XfS5kBGBh00

    • mancityRed6

      get me a few drinks with umbrellas and an indoor pool like that and I can do that too.

    • mancityRed6

      this is why I only take showers now.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      Armin Zola’s looking a lot better these days.

      • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

        Upfist for Oldskool Jack Kirby reference. :)

    • Grokenstein

      He’s a maniac, a maniac, in the pool…

  • Vincent Ricola

    I don’t know why everyone keeps talking about Russia when Johnny Depp and Kathy Griffin and Julius Caesar are still among us. It’s like liberals don’t even care about people named Donald Trump.

    • mancityRed6

      let’s go in the wayback machine and see what they said when that same troupe murdered a black man on stage
      *crickets*
      well, there you go.

      • therblig
        • mancityRed6

          memories of my dad’s ford courier pickup, with the five speed and me standing in the middle of the seat (if I wasn’t in the bed once he got the shell over it)

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Johnny Depp needs to STFU and enter rehab- he’s not helping

      • MynameisBlarney

        What’d he do now?

      • miss_grundy

        And how many death threats did Bamz and his family receive during his eight years in the White House? They received tens of thousands besides the Secret Service letting people jump over the fence and even shooting into the White House. I don’t care what some overpaid actor has to say.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          I’m not a big fan of the “they did it too” defense. But as a more practical matter, one libtard hollyweird actor saying something stupid like this and having it plastered all over the internet is seriously damaging to the left. It’s an unforced error.

  • Sharla Fouquet

    Goddamnit. GODDAMNIT. 😡

    • mancityRed6

      the rallying cry of the new progressive.
      I would have also accepted “fuck, fuckety fuck, fuck fuck”
      and “mother fucking dogdamn shit”

      • puredog

        I’m saving those in case the rumor that Anthony Kennedy is announcing his retirement on Monday bears fruit.

        • mancityRed6

          holy fuck if that happens, I will so glitterbomb any place that has his address.

      • Marion in Savannah

        Hmmm… I generally go with “Goddamn motherfucking shit.” For realz — you can ask Mr. MinS how often he hears me scream this.

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          I add an extra “fuck shit” to the end of your phrase, myownself. But then I’m verbose like that.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Fake news! Comey already said there was no Russian involvement, and also he is untrustworthy in case he said something different. At least that’s what I’ve come to understand from 1000 Twitter bots today.

    • The Green Bastard

      I haven’t seen lori around talking abt her new MacLaren lately. I’ll bet that bitch left us & got a fancy new job as a Russian Twitter troll.

      • mancityRed6

        oh, she’s around. she gives me upvotes.

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          You too? That SLUT!

          • mancityRed6

            now, now. she’s not like that.not since she got off the google thing.
            be fair.

    • Thiazin Red

      And Trump totally tricked him into telling Congress what he already said he was going to tell them! Checkmate Libtards!

  • MynameisBlarney
    • jesterpunk

      Yes but Podesta had a risotto recipe!!!!!!!1!!1!!111

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        Tried it, was not that good. LOCK HIM UP!

    • TJ Barke

      Put Trump, and all his associates up against the wall! And anyone that fucking complains about it!

    • mancityRed6

      but Jeh said it weren’t no big deal.

    • Bill D. Burger

      Bbbbbbuut…..Killary leaked classified knitting patterns. Our most secretive scarves were at risk. Sheeple’..wake up!

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    Everything in the psychological equivalent of stepping on Legos in the middle of the night with bare feet.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Sorry Bamz, ya blew it. Your biggest weakness was always your over cautiousness and not wanting to make waves. Sometime though, you just have to say what the fuck and make some big ass waves, no matter how much butthurt it causes. This would have been one of those times…

    • janecita

      Exactly, he should have also appointed Merrick Garland to the supreme court on his way out.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        or at least tried

        • miss_grundy

          Actually, I’m glad that he didn’t because now the Republicans can unload their shit storm on everyone. And when things go south, they can screech it was Bamz’s fault but then it will be time to say the same thing Charlie Pierce wrote in his latest Esquire magazine article–“you brought this on yourselves”.

    • MynameisBlarney

      He was gonna be damned if he and damned if he didn’t.
      Can you imagine the hysterics from the dumbass frightwingers if he’d tried to prevent trump from being inaugurated?
      That might have started a civil war.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        If you’re going to be damned either way, be damned for doing the right thing

      • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

        Then be damned if he did. It’s not like they could hate/distrust us/him more.

        EDIT: I’m not saying he should have blocked Trump’s inaguration, but he should have gone ahead with going public despite McConnell’s blackmail. Bowing to that shit set a hideous precedent.

        • rooster2k2

          You should just stop, you have no fucking idea what you’re talking about… Just trying to help, someone who matters may be reading, hate for them to realize what’s going on upstairs eh?

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        It’s better to be respected as a lion than be lionized as a sheep.

        — That’s what I always say.

      • rooster2k2

        And why the F would he do that? How’s that IQ? Things confuse you easily?

    • mancityRed6

      his biggest weakness was believing that people are good.

    • rooster2k2

      Half the people here have no idea what you’re talking about….

      Obama was a weak, lead from behind, feckless president….

  • janecita
    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      VIOLENCE ON THE LEFT!

      Joking, sorry. Just some levity, that’s all.

      • janecita

        I’ve been feeling quite stabby lately:-)

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          Me too, honestly. Stabby with votes, but stabby just the same.

    • Bill D. Burger

      A Snow ballet.

      • mancityRed6

        I don’t even watch that show and I got that joke

      • janecita

        The type of ballet that all the people that sell their country to a foreign power should dance.

        Ps. Winter is Here.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      I am shocked. Not at the animated gif in the comment above. No, I am shocked at my reaction to watching it. I find it extremely calming to watch over and over again. I am of the feeling that I should not react to that image in this way. Yet, I find it calming. I was not like this a year ago.

      If I were to go so far as to replace the faces on the figures who meet their doom in that image with people whose names rhyme with rump, lion, yertle & shammity, I worry that I would have an orgasm or something.

      I have become fucked up. I want to blame Trump and (R) Scum and White Trash Voters for this.

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    Democrats are forever worried about whether they might be criticized,
    whether Republicans will be mean to them, whether they might look as
    though they’re being partisan, and whether they might be subjected to a
    round of stern editorials. Republicans, on the other hand, just don’t
    care. What they’re worried about is winning, and they don’t let the
    kinds of criticism that frightens Democrats impede them. It makes
    Republicans the party of “Yes we can,” while Democrats are the party of
    “Maybe we shouldn’t.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/06/23/how-democratic-timidity-may-have-helped-trump-get-elected/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

    I cannot agree more with this.

    • yyyaz

      I see it less Dems being a bunch of timid poll-watchers than as them having a history of actually trying to govern democratically rather than as goosestepping autocrats. I mean, wasn’t “Yes We Can” our mantra and creed less than 10 years ago? The pushback against the blah president was far worse than nearly any of us imagined. It galvanized the racist base to give the Rethuglicunts all the support they have always sought to push the oligarch agenda to the depths we are now testing.

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        Oh, I agree with that. I took this passage to be more about pragmatism. The wording was a bit poor as it should have read “Should we do this” v. “Can we do this”. It’s an ethical philosophy found quite a bit in the scientific community.

        I love our desire to weigh every issue against what’s best for the whole. There are just honestly times when we need other voices to tell us to hurry the hell up.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Sure, and that’s why none of us are Republicans. But it’s funny watching all the hand wringing and gloom and doom, the debate whether or not to behead Pelosi and all the other questions and criticisms, when it really boils down to- Dems hesitate while Republicans blunder full speed ahead because they DGAF. If we’re going to debate how to win, that is a good piece of the answer. We have to admit that and either change to be more aggressive and less concerned with what people and the media say, or accept the fact that we’ve chosen not to go down that path because we decided it wasn’t worth it. In that case, we need to stop the circular firing squad, because the answer is, we chose to be more responsible and decent than republicans and that means losing some elections because we’d rather keep our principles.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      This! Democrats are just too nice. When dealing with sociopaths and psychopaths, you have to be brutal and efficient, as well as thoughtful. Unfortunately, this requires a well-functioning stack of vertebrae.

  • Grokenstein

    What a shame the Murikan Peeple were too focused on skin color and genitals (and the pursuit of non-existent purity–never forget that because you know the narcissistic dipshits of the Fringe Left will be right back at it again next election) to pay attention to the man behind the curtain.

  • miss_grundy

    It is this type of article that makes me wish that certain people would be taken care of the way Brad Pitt’s character, Westray, was taken care of in “The Counsellor”. And let’s start with Vladimir Putin. And no, Polonium-210 would be too nice for him.

    • TJ Barke

      Let’s help him move a hot tub on his balcony.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        And fill said hot tub with anhydrous hydrogen peroxide and then invite the subject to take a lengthy bath. The resulting beautiful brightly-white bleached bones would make a fine souvenir. (Unless you wait too long.)

        All of the above with votes, as applicable, of course.

        Also too: Smoking is not advised during the bathing process.

  • Donkey Option

    Will all those jerks who just blame Hillary and how unlikeable she was for her not getting elected acknowledge that she was clearly being targeted beyond just the generic attack ads that come out every election? And maybe Hillary would have been a great president (I trust anyone that Putin hates?) Or are we just going to keep eating our own?

    • Grokenstein

      I just had some buffoon yarp this at me: “Sure she won the popular vote but if she’s so smart why didn’t she know the Electoral College chooses the President, huh? Huh? Huh?” They’re incapable of introspection, let alone acknowledging their mistakes.

      • “M”

        oh dear

      • rooster2k2

        Dumb comment. The electoral college keeps wackos from the East and left coast highly populated, bad mineral areas from running the rest of the country… We be all equal and such!

    • rooster2k2

      What color is the sky on your planet? Hillary as we speak is drugged up drooling on herself in a chair…. Great president… Hilarious!!!!

  • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

    OT- Nice: It’s cool, breezy and rainy today, so lovely. I did some baking, I haven’t run the AC, and when I checked the mail, I encountered a friendly and cute young woman that complimented my shoes. :)

    • Thiazin Red

      Baking sounds nice. I got a new cookbook and I’ve been going a bit overboard with it, so I’m taking a break from cooking today.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      Cool! Whadd’ya bake? What kind of shoes were they? Why is the sky blue?

      • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

        Biscuits, Mossimo Wedgies, and because Red Sky would be like a bad movie.

        xD

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          All good answers! I have no idea what a Mossimo Wedgie looks like, though.

  • janecita
  • Latverian Diplomat

    And the WaPo says Obama people believe their warnings “prompted Moscow to abandon any plans of further aggression, such as sabotage of U.S. voting systems.

    It true, well, with the Siberian Candidate in the White House, it’s going to be open season for Russian tampering in the 2018 and 2020 elections. Terrific.

  • TundraGrifter

    “No evidence” huh?

  • La forza del resistino

    Good read Evan, now recuse me as I’m rushin to get the blini off the stove top.

  • mancityRed6

    OT, I trolled that mediaite story from this morning. this is the result
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9bdaa818f38218a673a60609c6c9431aa1a847597f3ec2b5b1bc6028641f5e76.png

    • MynameisBlarney

      The hell is YAFJ?

      • TJ Barke

        “You’re a fucking jew”?

        • NastyBossetti

          I was thinking joke, but you’re probably right.

        • mancityRed6

          well, I am cut.

          • II Gosala

            that’s so 70s. I believe the expression nowadays is “ripped”

          • mancityRed6

            ummm, ’70s, but not like that.
            but I wish I was.

          • II Gosala

            “Oh, to be 80 again”
            — Li Kao

          • mancityRed6

            I read a real bad story in a printed Esquire magazine about what they did to guys whose junk got burned off when they did the circumcision and the lengths they went to hide it. I was immensely grateful

          • II Gosala

            I am so sorry you read that. I’m even more sorry you told me about it.

          • mancityRed6

            it was bad, bad, bad, bad. I forever was happy how I could stand and pee for the rest of that summer and ever since.
            there were pictures of prosthetics, too. that’s how bad it was.

          • Oblios_Cap

            That was all the rage when I was growing up, too.

        • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

          Probs this. Fuck these Neo-Nazis.

          • II Gosala

            No, don’t. That’s how you make little neo Nazis.

          • MynameisBlarney

            I thought they grew in caves. Like mold.

          • II Gosala

            Mold libelz!!1!

          • Oblios_Cap

            And their mothers’ crawlspaces.

      • mancityRed6

        I dunno, but I know that the fuckety fuck fuck fuck is gone and now it says yay tits.

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        Elbow deep into a Google search of it and coming up with nothing that makes any sense.

      • Oblios_Cap

        I think it’s MGTOW for “you’re a fucking jerk”.

      • AJ Milne

        Synonym for covfefe.

    • Oblios_Cap

      YAY TITS!

      That’s all I got.

  • gratuitous

    I think we need to look forward, not back.

    Fuckinay, I hate these fuckers and the Democrats who just stand around with their hands in their pockets, whistling tunelessly and avoiding eye contact, aren’t on my Christmas card list, either.

    • mancityRed6

      I agree. we need people out there yelling about things that are true, but yelling so the idiots….wait, common man… can understand them.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Ot…but calculating that no one who heard him could read, Spicer said emphatically (*although he didn’t say “Period”) today that the Senate’s Wealthcare Bill would NOT affect people on Medicaid?!!??!
    OOOO-KKKKK! All settled then.

    Guess with NO cred left, he just doesn’t give a shit any longer, huh?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5d6cea2e1154b7b8d1ca0b9dc6bac882c642414779eca8d55a7d243acb2f7b93.jpg

    • mancityRed6

      when you’re looking at training someone else for you job, what would you do?

  • William
    • YayConspiracy

      He already did. That lilly-livered microcephalite.

    • Wild Cat

      But this was a major Obama fuck up. He had an obligation to defend us from foreign attacks. His strategy was horrific.

      • William

        He had an obligation to defend us from foreign attacks.
        Yeah good point. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/41121a4fd94f64bbaef50bf9e8c9b252ffc5caf824454084742db238dfd434ea.jpg

        • Oblios_Cap

          That was on W’s watch. Obama hadn’t taken possession of the TARDIS before that happened.

          • William
          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Jesus fucking christ, we’re doomed.

          • miss_grundy

            Klepper should have kicked this redneck in the crotch repeatedly and then told him “Because Dubya was President, ratfuck face.”

          • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

            The stupidity is painful. AND THEY VOTE. It’s so disastrous.

          • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

            It does not matter when you take over the TARDIS.

          • If future me takes control of the Tardis, but he tells past me, then present me will know to take control of it, but then I might decide not to and not take what I will might take not ever…

            Wait…

        • tomamitai

          In the long run, what Russia did to us is worse than 9/11. Americans united against terrorism, this shit is dividing us, as was Putin’s and the neo-confederate’s intent. The next blow, maybe the final one, will come at the Constitutional convention that the Kochs and other right-wingers are promoting by claiming they just want a balanced budget amendment. http://www.cbpp.org/research/states-likely-could-not-control-constitutional-convention-on-balanced-budget-amendment-or

        • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

          Clinton warned endlessly about this, and DID keep us safe, but someone with an elementary-school-level grasp of recent history and a desire to be factual would recall, it was G.W. Bush who ignored all of Clinton’s warnings, and also paid no attention to an intel memo SPECIFICALLY STATING and directly warning about this attack. Somehow you want to pin this on …. Obama???? HUH?

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        Given the complexity of the situation, as shown, how do you assume you would have proceeded differently?

        • “M”

          And … *crickets*

          Funny how nobody ever has an answer to that question.

          They’re all full of criticism for POTUS44, but NOBODY has a better idea that would effectively deflect the treasonous opposition he had already anticipated.

          Huh.

          • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

            I know. It obviously was an incredibly complicated situation, with endless different ramifications, that Obama calculated with all the information he had (and we didn’t), making the best decision that he could make, with all his enormous intelligence, instinct, and experience. The worst thing that Trump has done is create a situation where the President is so fucking ignorant and malfeasant, that almost anyone could do a better job, which ends up completely debasing the office of the President, even retroactively.

  • Wild Cat

    Winning candidate and true president HRC was willing to state this out loud. And she did.
    Obama’s decision not to go public with this—and even do whatever he could to suspend the elections—is the final shank in a pseudo-democracy.
    Morally, none of us who are on the non-traitor side need pay taxes or participate in civic discourse anymore—the US government is a puppet of the Russian government and those in the GOP/Traitor Party they put into office. They do not serve us or our interests.
    Going back to WWII, J-P Sartre correctly noted that when a nation is in distress, the right always capitulates and serves their conquerers while the left fights. He was correct in 1940. He stands correct in 2017.
    Fuck all you fascist traitors, cowards, apathetic assholes, sadists, and purity dogfuckers.

    • BigCSouthside

      What’s sad is Obama knew she wouldn’t survive the right wing misinformation machine if he went public. The only way to preserve her chances was to keep it clandestine.

      He knew that the republicans would immediately leverage it for gain instead of being alarmed and then attempt to protect democracy.

      That is an incredible indictment of the Republican Party.

      They are traitors. End of story

      • Wild Cat

        Read Adam Silverman on Balloon Juice. Your opinion of the opposition is correct, but they couldn’t ratfuck this in a conventional way as they did with Rather. Plus info on this might have made complacent Dems get off their asses and actually vote.

  • C4TWOMAN

    I’m half way through the time line. Boy, is Jeffy Sessions mighty forgetful. I think if he has that much trouble remembering that many things, Sessions should resign and get himself checked for early Alzhimers.

  • William

    Just in case anyone wants to keep up. Warning. Pack a lunch, you’re going to be a while. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html?smid=fb-share

    • Wild Cat

      FTFNYT

    • mancityRed6

      this would have been helpful last August.
      no, wait, the true believers wouldn’t have trusted it anyway.

    • theblackdog

      Dear NY Times,

      WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU IN 2016? Oh that’s right, you were busy licking Trumps taint while typing “But her E-mails!”

      You have so much ground to make up because of how much you screwed up and yet I still won’t ever trust you again.

  • OneYieldRegular

    Brian Kemp, the Republican secretary of state of Georgia, used the call to denounce Johnson’s proposal as an assault on state rights.

    Wow, I’m just gobsmacked surprised that states’ rights Republicans and Vladimir Putin’s hackerthugs appear to agree completely on the need to deprive people of their voting rights.

    • yyyaz

      *insert surprised face gif here*

    • tomamitai

      The guy behind Calexit lives in Russia for fuck’s sake! We’re looking at U.S. Civil War 2.0 here, with the traitorous rebels gladly taking help from a foreign adversary!

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        Isn’t it more that the foreign adversary is cunningly taking advantage of complete morons?

  • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

    This needs to be investigated for our country’s sake. Maybe Donnie two scoops is just a fool and his vanity won’t allow him to admit that he won the election with the help of a foreign government. At the other extreme, maybe there was collusion at nearly every level of the Republican Party. We just don’t know. Mueller seems like a patriot who is offended by Trump and his minions, and is determined to get to the bottom of this whole thing. I hope he’s allowed to proceed.

    • tomamitai

      Unfortunately it wasn’t just republicans, at least one Democratic challenger used hacked materials provided by “Guccifer 2.0” in a primary, only to see his republican challenger use hacked material against him in the general. The media were too damn eager to publish the hacked info, too, and should bear part of the blame. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/house-democrats-hacking-dccc.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      I seriously think that Donnie Two-Scoops is deeply in debt to shady Russian lenders who have enthusiastically threatened his life, and when Putin “just happened to have” a good idea, he gladly sells out a country to save his skin. Perhaps there’s also video of his actual micro-peen, and he’d let America be destroyed rather than have his malignant narcissistic ego hurt.

    • PincheMacha

      ha ha ha another Mama Stephanie Miller fan? “Fat Donnie Two-Scoops” is one of my faves!

  • theblackdog

    I loved Obama as president, but this is one of his moments where he should have not fully trusted that Congress and others would do the right things and he should have been screaming that there were problems from the rooftops.

    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      Congress was complicit.

    • BearLeft

      That’s the fatal flaw of good people: They expect other people to be fundamentally good (just as thieves expect everyone else to be thieves).

      • theblackdog

        Yeah I understand this fatal flaw all too well.

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        This is absolutely true, and the reason groups like the Nazis rise to power. The British and the Americans simply couldn’t fathom the depths of their brutality and savagery. With the slaughter of WW1 so fresh in everyone’s minds, who could want another war? Oh, they’re re-occupying the Rhineland? Want to invade Czechoslovakia? It’s fine, that’s probably all they want, let’s not make trouble. Kristallnacht? Well, that’s just the Jews, you know the Jews. Everyone else is just fine. Then, the “gossip” about atrocities in the East–come now, who could believe such a thing?

        People still don’t seem to be able to understand that Trump and Bannon and the rest of the villains are TRULY villainous, truly awful, catastrophically evil people who want us dead. Who want chaos, destruction, who want to destroy America. The media keeps mincing words. People keep doing nothing. People keep relying on the idea that everything will be okay, and the people running things couldn’t be so blatantly awful. Don’t you feel sometimes that we’re just shouting into a void?

        • BearLeft

          All the frickin’ time.

    • mfp

      yeah, well….there were several of those moments, and no i dont wanna recite them now cause blood already boiling

    • Courser_Resistance

      Well yeah, that’s what we get when we go high when they go low. We get fucked over by cheaters. And everyone just points and laughs.

      • pat tolle

        Courser_Resistance- Not everyone points and laughs- Just the MAGEST among the sh!tg!bbons. I’d recommend that we keep to the highest moral ground we can and keep being f*cked over and pointed and laughed at.

    • “M”

      https://twitter.com/TheRealTnisha/status/878340078686265344

      Don’t blame POTUS44. Blame the white dude Bernie Bros and RED Jill Stein voters who “just couldn’t ..”

      • theblackdog

        Oh there is plenty of blame to go to those fuckers. I blocked quite a few people I knew for those reasons.

  • Bill D. Burger

    OT….but aside from the absolute truth of the message here, just look at that child and then reflect on what a 100 years of festering bigotry, lying and wallowing in a swamp filled with Republican and turtle shit can do to you over the course of a lifetime. Man! That’s scary stuff right there.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDBbLpGUAAAAuVa.jpg

    http://a4.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/c_fill,fl_keep_iptc,g_faces,h_365,w_652/congress-republicans–6.jpg

    • mailman27

      What a greasy shitbird.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Warm Springs was started and paid for by FDR, but wasn’t a government project. It was a private foundation that the Turtle happened to attend while FDR was president.

      This is one of my main beefs with Occupy Democrats- their bad habit of dolling up the truth to make a better zinger. Usually it blows up in their faces when it turns out they fudged the truth

      • Michael Berndtson

        All those dimes came from folks with military industrial complex and work projects jobs. Old folks had some new social security money, too.

        US federal government spent roughly $35 billion in 2006 dollars between 1955 and 2005 and still spends about $100 million a year on polio research and foreign aid. March of Dimes and other charities don’t really cover the costs. State governments had to pony up for most of the treatment.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17184390

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          All true, but the Occupy Democrats meme saying that the Turtle was there on the government dime is misleading at best. That doesn’t make Mitch any less of an asshole, but we do ourselves no favors when we drift into fake news FB memes

  • NastyBossetti
  • Oblios_Cap

    “My goodness, I’m just a common turtle, therefore I’m just not sure Russia did this!”

    McConnell even lies about what kind of turtle he is. He’s a shit-eating moneygrubber type.

    • BearLeft

      I don’t think there are any turtles that low. They simply have the misfortune of looking like McConnell.

      • cmd resistor

        I actually like turtles so I will just continue to call him ShitHead.

        • TootsStansbury

          Yeah, I like turtles too. McConman is a lipless, chinless, ugly, corrupt, nasty motherfucker.

  • BigCSouthside

    The election should be redone. And honestly I could give two fucks if the MAGAts revolt over it.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Let them. There are more of us. I’ll unlock my gun.

      • miss_grundy

        I think the MAGAts would be surprised to learn that liberals have guns and know how to use them. At least the herd would be thinned out.

    • Courser_Resistance

      I’ve said that from the beginning. The election should be nullified. Everybody here tells me nuh-uh, can’t be done in ‘Merica. I honestly don’t see why not, shitty elections are nullified not infrequently in Not-America. Of course there’s no political will to do it, but it should be theoretically possible.

      • Perkniticky

        Not-America is not as stuck in the mud conservative as America is. The election is just more glaring proof of how dangerously ossified the American system has become. If you were normal people you’d be talking about how the system is not fit for purpose, and making changes. But of course, America is not normal, it’s exceptional.

        • I personally think part of it is that America’s Constitution is written and displayed, rather than non-written like many, many other countries have.

          America worships a piece of paper so much that every single little thing comes back to it, because of its format. Its treated as a precious artifact because of it, rather than being something it should be, namely a guide for law. Almost as if laws are derived directly from a symbol, rather that practicalities.

          Other countries don’t worship their constitution, they just follow it the best they can. America does, and apparently it makes the US so unique and so specially special and exceptional.

          • “M”

            Well – the thing is that it’s also based on a set of presumptions … like that a certain type of person “deserves” to be in charge of governing, because it’s “assumed” that they are going to behave decently.

            When those people proceed to just throw those norms aside, the people who’ve been presuming that people who look like them should be in charge all this time tend to flail, because they hadn’t assumed that people like that (e.g, white upper-middle-class men) would ever behave like this.

            And then they end up using the word “unprecedented” a lot — but that’s because they haven’t bothered to ask a sufficient number of people who are NOT those men … who’ve seen those people behave like that, historically, all the time.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Bill D. Burger
    • rooster2k2

      Fucking retarded. So the heads of the FBI, CIA & NSA are under investigation?

      Fuck I hate idiots who post shit and don’t read….

  • tomamitai

    Does willful inaction count as collusion legally speaking? That is the LEAST you can say about the republican response to Putin’s meddling, as laid out in the WaPo article. I want to see some hearings about why they softened their language about Ukraine in their platform, let’s see how those worms squirm their way out of THAT shit pile!

    • willi0000000

      if it’s not aid it’s, at least, comfort.

      • miss_grundy

        Well, isn’t giving comfort to the enemy considered treason?

    • cmd resistor

      Hopefully that is on Mueller’s to-do list, maybe not hearings but figuring it out.

    • “M”

      “Does willful inaction count as collusion legally speaking? That is the LEAST you can say about the republican response to Putin’s meddling, as laid out in the WaPo article. “

      I’d argue that it does. There are plenty of statutes that include the phrase “act OR omission” when they’re describing the actions (or inactions) that constitute crimes in aggregate; I’d argue that that’s for that specific purpose.

  • Poly_Ester

    I am disappointed in the performance of the deep state in this matter. However, Trump did everything thing the Russians could have hoped for, like screaming that the vote would be fraudulent.

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      Pretty sure “he was instructed to”

  • yyyaz

    So now Jake Fapper is asking Sen. Wyden why the scary, blah president didn’t do more to save us. Like what, Jake? Postpone the election until every moran in Merka could at least have the information-they-would-never-believe about their Orange leader being Putin’s puppet? Yes, the blood in the streets could very well be drying by now after choosing that option. If anyone has a talking point to head off what will become just the latest round of “It’s all Obama’s fault!”, now is the time.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω
    • TakingAmes

      Hell, I’m shocked they’re not blaming Hillary for it. Yet.

      • PincheMacha

        Give it time! 10 minutes should be enough

      • Perkniticky

        Everyone’s already blamed her for not winning the election. But I’m sure they’ll soon drag up more blame from the bottomless pit of Clinton blame.

      • ltmcdies

        haven’t you heard….it’s totally on Hillary Clinton that white bros and the economically anxious chose to support a foul mouthed, temperamentally ill equipped, four times bankrupt, pussy grabber who wouldn’t release his tax returns.

        or voted third party to stayed home E Day to ‘wash their hair”

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      It’s always the same. A WHITE GUY DID SOMETHING BAD. It’s the black guy’s fault for not stopping him!

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    Remember this? This must have happened just after Mr Obama told Donnie Dumbass about the investigation. Donnie’s been denying ever since.

    http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/10/10-obama-trump-white-house.w710.h473.2x.jpg

  • AndyC316

    I couldn’t read the article as I’m a mooch and read all my free WaPo articles for the month, so I can only assume that this is something that’s not going to boil my fucking blood. Am I right? :(

    • mfp

      no

    • in the name of the moon

      Try another browser. Puffin not eh phone is really good for that Top Sekrit sticking it to The Man.

    • Perkniticky

      This one is worth a read. Put it at the top of your list beginning next month if you can’t find someone to copy it for you. Or, I think someone copied most of it on a comment on political wire.

    • Drunken Interlocutor

      Go incognito, bro.

  • mfp

    i dunno…with all the hem-hawing and back-forth over ‘eeeennhh, bluto, we dont wanna make it look like we’re being political and get in truhhhh-buulllll’–wouldnt one ultimately wanna fall on the side of informing the public (because democracy) and SAVE THE GAWDAMN REPUBLIC?!!1!?1!1??

    • Ωbjectifier

      The political calculus makes sense for that time. I doubt Vlad ever really thought Donald Fucking Trump would actually take office.

      That being said there’s no mention of friendly foreign intelligence services lending a hand. That’s what the ‘special relationship’ is supposed to be about.

      • mfp

        except in the french elections, they actually called out the russians on their bullshit, their election was closer to fair than ours was, and macron was elected

        and actually, didnt the friendly intel turn our intel onto the problem to begin with?…

        • Ωbjectifier

          Yeah, that’s what I meant. I’m sure there was much more involvement by the Brits, but there’s no mention of it in the article. After all they were the first to raise the alarm and fought similar shit over the Brexit vote.

          • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

            They had just been played in the same way over Brexit, and were dealing with that fallout.

        • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

          That’s because THEY HAD ALREADY SEEN our election–both Macron AND the rest of the electorate. If our election hadn’t happened, it’s not clear they would have known to do that.

          • mfp

            also true

    • javadavis

      That is what I would think, but a lot of the nazis and thin skinned republican snowflakes where threatening civil war as it was. (with Trump amplifying that message, IIRC) I still think that the info should have gone public, perhaps as a way to explain that we were, I don’t know, going to have all paper ballots this year but I guess that would have meant civil war time for these lame brains, too. Imagine how they would feel about being told that their car wasn’t done at the mechanics because the brake parts got held up at the border or something, but just go ahead and load up your family and drive it home anyway because we know how you hate to wait.

      • mfp

        presidents take an oath to preserve and protect the constituition and the nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic…no excuses, no political calculations…they’re supposed to suck it up and do it, whatever it takes, period…that didnt happen

        • javadavis

          Bingo. But it is not just presidents, I am pretty sure, that oath is also taken by intelligence agency employees, bottom to top.

          • H0mer0

            Flynn also too took that oath before selling us out. I heard someone say he was out of money which is why he tried to make a deal. Why would Congress be in any position to make such a deal. They aren’t law enforcement.

    • “M”

      YOu better check in with your white dude purist Bernie Bros before you start throwing blame around or aiming it at POTUS44.

      Some voters did their job. Not all of them did.
      https://twitter.com/TheRealTnisha/status/878340078686265344

      • mfp

        yeeaaahhhh, i was gonna let this go, but uhhh..ya know what?…fuck you…and your two upfisters—this article and the following non-comments isnt about who voted for 44 and hillary–and for the record, i voted for 44 (boaf times, deion) and hillary…the topic and the news story is about how much the 44 admin knew and could have done but DID NOT DO to save our election, and our country–…and excuse me for having the nuts to say it out loud, but for all the posing about being the new lincoln (annnouncing his prez run on the steps of the old IL courthouse, his speech-a-fying [much overrated], etc), when it came down to crunch time, 44 chumped out every fucking time…he was no lincoln…he didnt save the union…

        prosecute the wall st criminals?…nope…have some balls and use the bully pulpit to sell the public option?…nope…stick up for his initial reaction to the prof henry louis gates ‘stupid cop’ thing?…nope…pick a critical decision time in the 44 era, and i can give ya NOPE, NOPE, and NOPE every time (and before ya go there, bin laden was handed to us)–i could go on all day, but my arthritis is screaming at me to go back to bed…but i got this much left in me for the day>>

        44 took an oath to preserve and protect the constitution and the union…he didnt even come close…lincoln had the nuts to suspend habeas corpus, when he knew it wasnt gonna legally fly– lincoln had the nuts to come up with a thing called the emancipation proclamation, which at the time was near universally thought useless and counterproductive…he had the nuts to send sherman on a flamethrower mission to end the traitorous insurrection and the union-killing war

        what did your jesus 44 do?…he left ‘retaliation measures’ in place to the colluding, traitorous fuck to implement on the foreign power that the colluding traitorous fuck colluded with…WTF, really?

        i’m a monthly contributor to this mommy-blog, i love this place, but i’m fucking sick with the obama-did-no-wrong worship around here…it’s delusional and counterproductive…he had the position and all the info to SAVE THE UNION–let me repeat that–SAVE THE UNION, lincoln–and didnt, because he had no guts, never, not once, not without being pushed first, either by someone around him, or by circumstance—and for that, he will not be kindly looked upon by future historians, and will never be forgiven by this VOTING FOR THE DEMOCRAT EVERY FUCKING TIME SINCE 1972 wonkeroo…so before you think you can lecture me about who voted for who, ya might wanna check yaself

        • “M”

          You sound incredibly intelligent.
          :-/

          • mfp

            you dont

        • speaking as an early bamz adopter and ferocious defender and all around loyalist, i agree with you.

          this horrifies me.

          his legacy (much of which i WILL defend) will be utterly undone by his reluctance to appear political last year.

          i’m still wrapping my head around this and also i am very sad.

    • lroom

      I will never forgive him for this.

  • tehbaddr

    Thanks Obama!

  • CeeQ

    So basically Obama and his admin did try to stop it but was hamstrung in certain aspects because of how toxic our political life has become that anything Obama does or says will be construed as level 10 awful and treasonous by the Right. And plus – Republicans were all it’s fine, everything is fine, don’t be all OBAMA LECTURE PROFESSOR ABOUT IT GEEZ.

    AND the Dems were way over confident and didn’t raise enough hell. AND the fucking pussy tape stole all the thunder.

    Ok.

    FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK. FUCK.
    I AM DEAD FROM ALL THIS SHIT.

    • Drunken Interlocutor

      That toxic political life was quickly and effectively exploited by the wee Russian man on horseback. And it’s the gift that keeps on giving. SAD!

  • Paperless Tiger

    They probably thought the threat could be contained. Now it looks like the Russians got deep into the voter databases, and that’s just what we know. It may be the tip of the iceberg. They may have hacked every last component of key election systems.

  • TootsStansbury

    I am tired of going about my day in a barely contained rage.

    • covfefesumgame0005

      man! that will count as a per-existing condition!
      No Insurance for you!

  • Kooolest G

    remember when Comey testified that he only met with Obama twice, the second time being right before he left office? here’s the transcript of that meeting
    Bamz: so big Jim, if you need to know whether or not the Trumpeteers colluded with Putin on this election theft, I left them plans to retaliate, if they use them, they’re innocent, if they don’t, they’re guilty AF. good luck with it, if you need me I’ll be wind surfing with Beyoncé. oh and BTW, if you meet with trump, make sure you take good notes, you might need them later.

  • ltmcdies

    sadly I’ve hit my 10 free WP articles….so I’ll take your word that’s it’s mind blowing

    however…this particular tweet is not wrong when it points out a whole lotta of people didn’t need Obama to tell them Trump was bad news

    https://twitter.com/TheRealTnisha/status/878340078686265344

    • DesertedPictures

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  • Wookie Monster

    Obama, as usual, tried to take the high road to avoid the appearance of politicizing the intelligence services. Too bad republicans have no principles.

  • ltmcdies

    so when does it get said out loud…Donald Trump was not elected legitimately , neither was Mike Pence.

    I know there are few mechanisms to remove either but with this kind of foreign interference last November, nothing they do is legitimate

    Oh and the Russians interfered int the voter bases themselves….what else was effected.

    • this. i was skimming the article in the car on the way to dinner last night, but i remember some like to the effect of: the russians elected trump.

      it needs to be said and said again.

  • persistently_resistant_gayby

    Yeah, there’s that head-spinning sensation I hadn’t felt since 01/20

  • DuchessD’Orleans

    IC: Hey, the Russians are trying to hack our elections and install an illegitimate POTUS of their choosing.

    Republicans: And their choosing in our guy, right?

    IC: Well yes, but…

    Republicans: So we’re very happy about that. Why wouldn’t we be? We’re fucking THRILLED that someone is helping us steal this election, dumbasses, and we’ll do whatever we need to to help them.

    • “M”

      McConnell had the gall to ask for evidence when 16 intelligence agencies confronted the Gang of Eight with this information.

      I know somebody is following his money

      bipartisanreport.com/2017/05/27/mitch-mcconnell-implicated-in-widespread-putinukraine-money-funnel-fbi-notified/

      I’m not sure why he wouldn’t be tried for obstruction & treason with all the rest of them.

  • zeusspeaks

    The Republican Party is merely an auxiliary organization of the Russian Federation. From local to national politics, every elected official and voter supporting it are useful idiots in the service of Putin and his criminal syndicate.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Trump looks like he’s part of the syndicate.

    • Bongstar420

      They are just rich people who want more privilege

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    • Odd Jørgensen

      240 hrs a month is a few hrs a day? Check your math please.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        In Soviet Russia, hours Putin you!

        • Bongstar420

          putin the butt!

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg
    • Rags

      We don’t diss Barron here.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        This isn’t a diss is it?

        • Sakonyachen

          Technically yes. If someone said you were Bannon, wouldn’t you get upset?

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            Touché

    • she persisted

      Leave that poor kid alone. He has enough problems considering who his father is.

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg
    • Sakonyachen

      Well if he would have complied to the other officers, oh wait! He did!

  • Zyxomma

    Thanks, Evan. I have too much to catch up on, but I promise to read the whole thing … later.

  • Ducksworthy

    Why interfere? He’s never going to win.
    “In my communications with you
    and other top officials in the national security community, it has
    become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and
    coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian
    government — a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States,
    which Trump praises at every opportunity. The public has a right to know
    this information. I wrote to you months ago calling for this
    information to be released to the public. There is no danger to American
    interests from releasing it. And yet, you continue to resist calls to
    inform the public of this critical information.”

    ~Sen. Harry Reid, letter to then-FBI Director James Comey, October

    • “M”

      Where did you see that?

      And where did you get it?

      October of which year?

  • Boohunney

    This Georgia girl thinks Brian Kemp rebuffed Johnson because there been some meddling at his office on voting rolls…

  • Apple Scruff

    What aggravates me the most, I think, is that Obama all along has known the truth about what happened (and frankly, how his administration screwed the pooch), and he has still publicly said Hillary was a weak candidate.

    • H0mer0

      and said he would have won against Putin. That was unnecessary.

  • Anita Ledford

    I Love the picture of President Obama looking down at putin.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    Gotta love Il Douche’s twattering about how terrible it was that Obama didn’t do anything … because it’s so much better to deny that it happened at all, and do nothing.

    • Bongstar420

      trumpski does not think it is terrible. He literally invited it to be putin America’s butt…OK> not literally.

      But literally hack American citizens who are high level government officials for his political gain.

  • King Beauregard

    What I’m left with is, the election itself produced a result we can trust, but people chose to vote like idiots. And even then, while Russia had a hand in Trump’s victory, the big problem is Americans. The same people that let the Republicans take over the House (and Lord knows how many states) in 2010 and then gave the Senate to the Republicans in 2014. If Americans weren’t so predisposed to doing the wrong thing, Russia’s impact would have been negligible.

    I’m mildly disappointed we didn’t punish Russia, but let’s face it, final responsibility lies with We The People.

  • Fancy Meau-Faux

    Goddammit I’m so irritated by this. I can’t really armchair quarterback it and say things were done poorly because sometimes shit happens and only later do you realize that you fucked up. I’ve done this enough times myself. I do feel like punching things though. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/246c92c6397b2ac4e0217b423a1290c7b6f9c6336c9c569b37ac7e66f0cd45cd.png

  • King Beauregard

    Let us remember the context of the Democratic primaries, where every Clinton victory was held to be a matter of cheating by the sore losers who demanded a coronation for their incompetent demagogue candidate. It wouldn’t surprise me if Obama saw how shitty the Bernie fan club was, and didn’t want the Trump fan club to behave comparably poorly when their incompetent demagogue lost. So his main focus was to make the vote counts as trustworthy as possible.

    • Duke

      If I was Obama, I’d be smarter and funnier, and I’d have not made it an issue in a campaign that I expected my favored candidate to win.

      This was highly unusual and second-guessing has the benefit of a significant fact: All that meddling tipped the election to Putin’s candidate.

  • Bongstar420

    Cripes…with the NSA monitoring everything, they didn’t notice the putin bots or the way it related to “news?”

    Who are they spying on? I keep getting told they spy on everyone.

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