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It’s the day after the special election in GA-06, so of course the usual suspects are Monday morning quarterbacking about how Jon Ossoff’s narrow loss IN AN R+20 DISTRICT means Democrats can’t win anything ever again. Yep, this wasn’t just a special congressional election. It was the BELLWETHER of the ZEITGEIST, which means Democrats should probably just give up forever. If a brand new young candidate with a cute butt can’t beat a well-funded asshole lady Republican in a district full of rich Republicans, then shouldn’t the Democratic Party just go ahead and disband?

Fox News focus group idiot Frank Luntz, who, as he regretfully does so often, is having thoughts:

Golly, that’s a good analysis, or the opposite of that!

First off, some numbers: Jon Ossoff raised $23.6 million for his campaign, whereas Karen Handel only raised $4.5 million. But party committees and super PACs chipped in $18.2 million for Handel, whereas their Democratic counterparts only kicked in $7.6 million for Ossoff. Yes, Ossoff spent lots of money, but so did pro-Handel forces, in a district where Republican Tom Price WON BY 20 FUCKING POINTS IN NOVEMBER. So sure, Ossoff spent a few million more to ultimately get beat in a deep red district by a dickhead GOP lady who loves voter suppression. Big effing deal.

But wait, Luntz had another good point, or the opposite of that! With all those millions of moneys, Ossoff got LESS VOTES than the Democrat running on November 8, which happened to be the day of the presidential election. WHOA IF TRUE! Here are the final numbers, via Politico:

In November, Tom Price won 191,732 votes, whereas his Democratic competitor Rodney Stooksbury won 119,536 votes. So Luntz is right that Ossoff got fewer votes than the Democrat in November. WHAT A LOSER! Karen Handel appears to be an even yooger loser though, as she took 63,639 FEWER VOTES than Tom Price. Maybe Karen Handel should just delete her account if the Republican in November got fully 50% more votes than she did!

Unless …

Unless there’s a difference between special Congressional elections and enormous presidential elections. Is there a difference in turn-out between those two scenarios? Oh there is, and that’s something you know even if you’re just an aborted badger fetus with two brain cells to rub together and a passing knowledge of American electoral politics? Cool. Aborted badger fetus wins this round, and as usual Frank Luntz loses.

Another way to look at this would be that, in a special election with muuuuuuch lower turn-out, Jon Ossoff managed to get almost as many people to vote for him as the Democrat got in 2016, whereas Karen Handel pretty much shit the bed and ate it. Democrats showed the fuck up, IN THE OFF SEASON, whereas Republicans were too busy braiding their grundle fur to waddle to the polls. Imagine what the results would have looked like if this hadn’t been an R+20 district! Imagine how many Democrats might show up in a much larger mid-term election, like say in 2018!

A lot of TV analysts want to make the GA-06 results JUST a referendum on Donald Trump, which is partially right. We have a pathetic loser president whose approval rating is swimming in shit river at 36%. And that’s after just five months of #winning! Imagine how low that’ll go as Trump deteriorates into madness, at the mercy of the Russia investigation and his own incompetence. That’s motivating a lot of people to get to the polls, and it’ll continue.

But at the same time, people vote for Congress a bit differently from how they vote for the president. In our gerrymandered-as-fuck country, people will often give 65-70% of the vote to their career congresspeople out of habit, simply because they’re known commodities. Often the opposing party won’t bother running anybody worth two fucks, and they certainly won’t spend money on it. What if there were viable, well-funded Democratic alternatives in 2018?

ABC chief political analyst Matthew Dowd is tweeting weird things about how if Democrats really want to beat Trump, they shouldn’t even run for office (GOOD JOB, SIR!), but he seems to be one of those people who gets an erection over being an “independent voter,” if his Twitter bio is any indication. MSNBC white board dork Steve Kornacki spent Tuesday night waxing concern-troll over how if Jon Ossoff couldn’t pull this off in an R+20 district, then Democrats might need to murder their hopes of winning districts where the incumbent Republican won in 2016 by … MUCH FEWER THAN 20 POINTS? No really he was saying this, unless we were hallucinating dumb idiot comments on MSNBC, which is entirely possible.

Does that even make mathematical sense? No, it does not.

As we explained this morning, in this year’s special Congressional elections, all of which were in DEEP red Republican districts, all the Democratic candidates lost, but they narrowed their losing margins BIGLY. A 15-16 point swing in GA-06, a 20 point swing in South Carolina’s 5th, a 23 point swing in the Kansas special election for maybe dirty CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s old seat. Even Montana swung 10 points toward the Democratic candidate. Weak and sad!

The website SwingLeft.org has identified 64 swing districts in the 2018 mid-term elections, based on math. (Sign up at their site! They will show you how to help flip the House of Representatives, even if you don’t live in one of those 64 districts!) That’s not accounting for surprising challenges that might come up in districts that aren’t known swingers. For the record, Democrats need to pick up 24 seats for a majority.

We did a little research, just to find out how many districts there are where the Republican won by fewer than 10 points in November. Imagine what might have happened if Jon Ossoff or Rob Quist was running in a special election in one of these places, or if there was a badass Democratic challenger in November 2018. Here are the districts, the incumbent Republicans, and how many they won by:

  • AL-02: Martha Roby.(+8.3%)
  • CA-10: Jeff Denham (+2.9%)
  • CA-25: Steve Knight (+6.2%)
  • CA-49: Darrell Issa (+0.6%)
  • CO-06: Mike Coffman (+8.3%)
  • FL-27: Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (+9.8%). Ros-Lehtinen is not seeking re-election.
  • IA-01: Rod Blum (+7.6%)
  • ME-02: Bruce Poliquin (+9.6%)
  • MN-02: John Kline (+1.8%)
  • NE-02: Don Bacon (+1.2%)
  • NY-19: John Faso (+8.5%)
  • NY-22: Claudia Tenney (+5.5%)
  • PA-08: Brian Fitzpatrick (+8.8%)
  • TX-23: Will Hurd (+1.3%)
  • VA-10: Barbara Comstock (+5.8%)

Those are just some good places to start. Where can you get involved NOW? Personally, we will be devoting time and resources to beating Martha Roby in AL-02, because her redneck ass has been annoying the shitfire out of us since she asked Hillary Clinton during the Benghazi hearings if she was home alone THE WHOLE NIGHT of the attacks. Hillary laughed at the obvious lesbian Huma sexxx joke in that question, and Roby scolded her, saying, “I don’t find it funny. At all!” UM YES IT WAS, DICKHEAD.

So let’s get fired up and ready to go like a common Obama, OK? Do it for America, and also do it just to make Frank Luntz look like a fuck-up, because that’s what he is.

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  • Oblios_Cap

    I’ve grown gourds that were more symmetrical than Luntz’s face. CBS insists on inflicting him on viewers of their morning “news”. He’s the poor man’s Lee Atwater.

    • Red Bird Ω

      Wait. Lee Atwater WAS the poor man’s Lee Atwater.

      • Geoff Richmond

        It’s been awhile since Lee Atwater was around. Gotta account for inflation, the poor getting poorer, etc.

    • Wild Cat

      His head blew up real good!

  • janecita

    I could do with a win, I don’t care how minuscule. It’s depressing to see how stupid people are, and that as long as it has an R after their last name, they would vote for a turd, dressed up as Pennywise, humping a goat.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      We got one of those already. Saw the “turd, dressed up as Pennywise” in January at some ceremony at the US Capitol. I must have missed the goat-humping, darn it!

  • The only smart thing Luntz ever did was to tell MSNBC to hire Keith Olbermann.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Luntz can’t be the Dumbest Fuck on Earth until Jim Hoft dies.

    • therblig

      62,984,825 people voted for trumpy. there’s a long long line for that title.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    When did they put web cams in the toilet stalls in Congress? It looks like he’s passing a couple of Big Macs and large fries ….

  • Anna Rompage

    Frank appears to be a total Luntz-head…

  • JMP

    Look, Democrats far exceeding expectations but still ultimately losing in heavily Republican districts is bad news for Democrats, just as Republicans far exceeding expectations but still ultimately losing in heavily Democratic districts is bad news for Democrats, because no matter what according to our media it’s always bad news for Democrats. Always.

  • BearGHAZI

    Luntz is a duntz, I feel

  • schmannity

    You promised, no maths!

  • Vecchioivan

    This is known as bombing the rubble.

    • arglebargle

      Whereas Russian mobsters laundering money in Trump properties is known as bombing the ruble.

  • Wild Cat

    Hate to say, but it doesn’t matter if he’s right or wrong. he’s an effective propagandist on an effective propaganda machine attached to other effective propaganda mediums. His “truth” will be truth to millions upon millions, even if it’s wrong. The mathematical analysis, above, may be correct, but 95 out of 100 Americans can’t even read it, even if they had the interest to do so. (They don’t.)
    Want to beat a Handel? Go on Georgia news and political blogs and write about her well-known history of embracing atheism, her hatred of guns, her admiration for Gloria Steinem, that she voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016, etc.
    It’s “true,” right?

    • Oblios_Cap

      Write about her sister the thespian.

      • Wild Cat

        Her brother was also a homo sapien!

        • CindyinEncinitas

          Who likes to masticate!

          • therblig

            i understand he worked as a proselyte outside a church. A CHURCH!!

          • CindyinEncinitas

            Ewww!

  • Vincent Ricola

    Oh Frank. Once a stupid face liar who uses tricky words to push the agenda of whoever is paying this week, always a stupid face liar who uses tricky words to push the agenda of whoever is paying this week.

  • schmannity

    In other breaking news, Alex Jones’ hiatus on conspiracy theories is over.

    HITLER ESCAPED TO ARGENTINA Y”ALL!!1!@!!!

    https://www.infowars.com/is-this-the-final-proof-that-hitler-escaped-to-argentina/

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      “Ich bin dein Vater, Alex.”

      • schmannity

        Ihren Vater, Ihren Bruder. Sie sind Mein Sohn UND mein Bruder.

        – Herr Mulwray

    • Robbertjan Brandenburg

      Sigh. This has been debunked so many times even the second coming of Hitler said it wasn’t so.

      • hendenburg2

        Dick Cheney?

        • Robbertjan Brandenburg

          Too much honor for that asshole.

      • Wild Cat

        He wasn’t a waiter in that Leidesplein Argentinian Steakhouse, Robert!?!

        • Robbertjan Brandenburg

          Nah that would have been Pepe when he ran out of gillette razors.

          • Wild Cat

            Some of the girls who work in the one I usually hit . . . wow!

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            But trust me, next time im amsterdam, don’t go to a restaurant on the Leidseplein. Overpaid poor quality set up for tourists. Next time you visit I have some wat nicer places for you. Just like you don;t go to the Bulldog coffeeshop if you are not a tourist anting to be ripped off.

          • Wild Cat

            I hate the Bulldog chain. They snubbed me about 25 years ago, and I haven’t gone back. Even to the one in Leidesplein in the old police station that I’ve passed 67,000,000 times.
            I just get the basic tourist menu: small steak, salad, frites, and a Sprite for about 12 euros. I love eating anywhere in A’dam—the portions are normal-sized, so I lose a lot of weight.
            But thanks—I will ask.

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            Argentino Luna is great, and if you want a decent covfefeshop in the centre always go to the dampkring.

      • Thiazin Red

        Sadly, the Finding Hitler show is still the most plausible thing that the History Channel has.

        • Robbertjan Brandenburg

          He is in the great barrier reef.

          Oh wait, thats nemo.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            He’s braiding Anastasia’s hair right now!

        • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

          Our history students used to call the History Channel, “the Hitler Channel” because every other show was about “Hitler’s secret…”

          • therblig

            that’s what i call it, too.

          • Marion in Savannah

            Well, for quite a while it was the Hitler and Hirohito Channel, all WWII all the time.

    • Vecchioivan

      Insert applicable Monty Python clip here.

      • therblig

        documentary footage says otherwise

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M7nYq9uWKk

      • Spurning Beer

        Mmm, I don’t like the sound of those “boncentration bamps.”

        • Skeptical_thinker

          Just replace the bee with a kay.

          You mean say kat instead of bat? What a silly bunt.

      • sadboy

        Not much fun in Stalingrad, no.

    • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

      Jeebus. I was like 8, and I made adults laugh at the store. National Enquirer had one of their “Hitler is Alive in Argentina” covers, and I was like “he was born in 1889, he’d be like 94.”

    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      Yes, because he would make sure that he brought all the silverware with him like John Franklin did.

  • Mavenmaven

    On the other hand, I recall another fella who lost by 3 million votes and is still carrying on about it.

  • DainBramage

    Another famous Frank.
    http://i.imgur.com/dL93EoC.png

    • arglebargle

      Frank Luntz eats worms.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Frank is full of beans?

    • Villago Delenda Est

      “Old Ferret Face”

    • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

      Frank Burns: The men hate me, don’t they?

      Radar: Just your guts, sir.

      • SeeTrain65

        Hawkeye: There is no Pioneer Aviation! I made it up!
        Frank: Well, why’d you do that?
        Hawkeye: To help you look foolish!
        Frank: I don’t need your help!

        • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

          xD

          Frank Burns: That’s not my department, sir – intelligence is something I try to avoid.

  • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

    Do you think sometimes people go up to Frank Luntz and say: “I know you from TV! Was Wally gay?”

  • MynameisBlarney
    • MynameisBlarney

      I think “Vodka nerf guns and candy” just might replace “lawyers guns and money” as one of my favorite sayings.

      • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

        Make it So!

      • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

        I went home with the Kushners
        The way I always do
        How was I to know
        They was with the Russians, too?

        I was laundering money in the Seychelles
        I took a little risk
        Send vodka, Nerf guns and candy
        Dad, get me out of this!

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Jon Ossoff spent $40,000,000 and got fewer votes than the Democrat challenger in November who spent $1000. #GA06

    And since Ossoff made it a close race, whereas the one who ran last November was unable to do so, your point is…?

  • Proud Liberal

    This is how I feel….

    Watch: Trump Supporters Go into Meltdown Mode Over Moby’s Latest Music Video via @Wibbitz http://www.alternet.org/media/trump-supporters-go-meltdown-mode-over-mobys-latest-music-video

    • jesterpunk

      So much for their frozen peaches and anti PC beliefs. What they really mean is they just want to be racist and sexist without anyone calling them out on their bullshit.

      • Proud Liberal

        They are destroying this country.

  • Oblios_Cap
    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      You mean the Tories haven’t thrown her in the stocks yet for torpedoing their majority?

      • Oblios_Cap

        She’s trying to hang on and be relevant.

  • arglebargle

    Dems went 5-0 in special elections before the republicans beat the snot out of them in the 2014 midterms. I read this somewhere earlier today but can’t find the article. Salon I think, so you know it’s a true fact.

  • Mpeg

    His hairpiece, Lord. He looks like he’s threatening “Don’t make me combover there!”

    • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

      xD

    • SeeTrain65

      “Frank’s wigs don’t come off!”

  • elviouslyqueer

    Okay, CA-49 voters, it is way past time for y’all to take out the trash.

    • CindyinEncinitas

      Fuck, dude. You know it.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      CA-49 is a nice day trip for me. Reinforcements are on the way!

    • Spurning Beer

      Darrell will need to freshen up his hot-wiring and kindling skills.

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    Democrats showed the fuck up, IN THE OFF SEASON, whereas Republicans were too busy braiding their grundle fur to waddle to the polls.

    This. Off-year elections and mid-terms are where we get creamed because Republicans always show up while Dems seem to find excuses not to.
    If we can keep turnout high in the midterms, we can do some real damage.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Not much for olds, unemployed white idiots and super-rich assholes to do in the off season.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    ABC chief political analyst Matthew Dowd is tweeting weird things about how if Democrats really want to beat Trump, they shouldn’t even run for office (GOOD JOB, SIR!)

    What in the everloving fuck now?

    If Dems want to put Country over party, they should stand down in red districts/states, and let independents run and win.

    1. Independents will be interested in running in districts where Republicans have been dominant and Dems don’t have a chance because…?

    2. Said independents would be better for our country than Democrats because…?

    3. Democrats will not be competitive in 2018 because…?

    tl;dr: oh, for fuck’s sake.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Also, Independents who don’t have any sort of party infrastructure, support or funding will succeed where Dems who have all three have not because…purple monkey dishwasher I guess.

      • elviouslyqueer

        And voila! “Purple monkey dishwasher” is now my new Kajagoogoo cover band name!

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        This reminds me, I finally emerged from my rock and saw the baby puppy monkey advert last night. I too can take drugs and come up with advertising campaigns, call me!

        • Marion in Savannah

          Gawd, that thing is horrifying.

    • shivaskeeper

      It all makes sense if you have the sanity of a shithouse rat.

      Also, too independents sounds suspiciously like Bernie Bros.

      • Cliff Hendroval

        I’ve generally found that Independents vote pretty much straight Republican – they just like to think they’re above party politics.

        • shivaskeeper

          Quite a few on the left as well. They were the o s complaining they were not allowed to vote in closed primaries.

    • proudgrampa

      OH, yeah. The Independents. Dumbest voting block on the planet.

      Sure. Let’s let THEM run things.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      I concur with your oh FFS.

      THat is all.

  • elviouslyqueer

    Bless his heart, but Frank Luntz looks like Garrison Keillor after a month-long 4Loko-and-Thunderbird bender.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      If I weren’t already on an extended Janopause (down ten pounds and counting in two months!), those “beverages” would put me on one FFS.

  • calliecallie

    Here’s to 2018. Over the next 18 months, may there be many secrets revealed, traitors brought to justice, and…I don’t know…ponies.

    • ariel_gee_398

      Puppies and kittens riding ponies. In little hats.

      • CindyinEncinitas

        Oh, you just put it all over the top for me. Little hats…

      • elviouslyqueer

        Unicorns pooping glitter rainbows, also too!

      • The Wanderer
        • proudgrampa

          Uh, what am I watching???

          • The Wanderer

            Many wise and eminent sages had wondered that, but what the hell, I’ll take a swing at it.
            It’s a Japanese children’s cartoon, sliced, diced and edited, then set to a nonsense song called “The Hamster Dance.”

          • proudgrampa

            Well, thank you for that!

  • BJW

    My rural, extreme NW Ohio district is locked up. But just over the border into Michigan there’s a good one. I’ve already donated a little money, and plan to do so again. (Yes, I used the link above it’s great.)

  • Shanzgood 16 Days

    OT: You guys, I have an interview next week for the kind of job I’ve been hoping was still out there for me!

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Exciting! Hope it goes well!

      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        Thank you! I’m so freaking bored right now I’be been about ready to start looking for sandwich board jobs just to get out of bed in the morning!

        • arglebargle

          Mmmmmmmmmm…. Sammiches

    • CindyinEncinitas

      Yay Shan!!!!

      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        Holy heck, I was starting to give up hope!

        • Oblios_Cap

          Best of luck!

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            Thanks!

        • CindyinEncinitas

          Aw, baby, don’t ever!

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            Well, when you get to be a “certain age” and the only jobs you can find that are what you’ve been doing for 20 years but they want a college degree and no experience so they can pay someone half your age half what you used to earn, it starts to look pretty bleak.

          • Oblios_Cap

            I know that feeling. Almost 60 is a bad spot for me – too young for Medicare (if it’s still there) and too old for people to want to pay.

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            I’ve already run into the “we think you won’t be happy with our salary range” thing. I told them (politely) that I could be the judge of that. Didn’t NOT get the job, just told they decided not to fill it after all. Sounded kinda hinky, so…maybe just as well.

    • MynameisBlarney
      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        Who’s THAT guy? He looks…happy?

        • MynameisBlarney
          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            That’s the Farmers guy who has all the accidents!

          • Spurning Beer

            My wife says he continues to do the Farmers Insurance commercials even though he’s won an Oscar, because they gave him work when he was down, and he wants to be loyal.

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            And who says nice guys always finish last?

          • Oblios_Cap

            J.K. Simmons

          • Covfefe’s Evil Twin

            I read a great line about J.K. Simmons a while back in a film review. The reviewer said, essentially, that before he became really famous J.K. Simmons always played a minor character that you wish would have been a more substantial character.

    • vivian

      International Crime Solving Space Gardener?

      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        My gardening “skills” ARE an international crime.

        • Rosacaustin

          my classmate’s half-sister makes $72 every hour on the internet. She has been without a job for eight months but last month her payment was $16159 just working on the internet for a few hours.Here’s the site to read more……++++++++++++++++++++
          ➜➜➜http://www.GlobalTopJobsOnlineAccessGoto/Wage/Home….
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    • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

      Break a Leg, Shan. :D

      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        Can I pick whose, in celebration?

        • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

          Yiss!

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            Sweet! I will do it like Arya so as not to get the banhammer!

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      yay! Kick some ass dude. We’re all pulling for ya.

      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        OMG I might have to take a shower!

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          And put on (gasp) pants!
          (I hate having to shave myeslf).

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            Oh, this’ll be a skirt interview. So I’ll have to shave, too. Meh.

    • Proud Liberal

      Good luck!

      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        Thanks! I was shaking when I hung up from setting the appointment! So excited!

    • shivaskeeper

      Very good.

      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        I hope so!

    • theblackdog

      You can do it Shan!

      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        I sure hope so! I think it’s a biggish company but the local office is small so…that’s a factor.

    • proudgrampa

      You Go, Girl!

      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        Woot, yeah!

    • Marion in Savannah

      Good luck! Fingers crossed.

      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        Thanks so much!

    • Spurning Beer

      Remember you’ll need time to train your replacement as a non-commenter here.

      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        Oh, I’m not leaving, just cutting back in my hours a bit!

    • janecita

      Congratulations!!! You are going to crush that interview!

      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        I hope so. I’m already really nervous.

        • Ill-Advised

          Think of it as talking shop with people you’ll never have to see again, unless you like them.

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            Ok, that’s good. Also, I will imagine them in their underwear.

          • Ill-Advised

            This can have unfortunate consequences if a member of the panel is hot. You don’t want the first thing you say to be a sigh and That Look. Being in love already does help.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    It amuses me that Rethugs are taking Handel’s (squeaker!) victory as an illustration of how much the country loves the GOP and Dems will never win again. First off, it should never have been that close in a district that is heavily gerrymandered and never swings blue. But secondly, you mofos think we are giving up because a slim chance of winning a race didn’t go our way? Fuuuucccck you. We are just getting started.

    • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

      Is it possible they Doth Protest Too Much, and it’s really a Tell how nervous they are?

      • Marion in Savannah

        Oh, yes indeed.

        • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

          Just another little trick I learned from one William T. Riker.

    • shivaskeeper

      It doesn’t matter. It really doesn’t. They have over 500 days to beat that drum and demoralize the left. That is the only goal with shit like this. 500+ days to get the left to believe there is no point in showing up. The left as a whole tends to nor shoe for midterms anyway, but this time might be different, so they need to get the groundwork laying that shit down now.

    • Gayer Than Thou

      The only thing that depresses me about it is how the media seem incapable, from start to finish, of explaining anything that our Wonkette explains so well.

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        Likely it’s the constraints of wearing pants that render them incapable of logical reasoning.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Frank Luntz is giving this guy a run for his money:

    https://youtu.be/PS6lNDrCi88

  • Spurning Beer

    I understood Steve Kornacki to say that having a serious Democratic candidate in the district in a race identified as a referendum on Trump really brings out the Teabaggers. I think he’s right.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Perhaps, but what’s the alternative? Cut and run?

      No, I say we fight on, and work on getting our peoples’ asses out and vote FFS.

      • Spurning Beer

        Of course. My own preference would be to out the Republicans as racists and thieves. I do understand the argument that this would not play well with (especially Southern) electorates, but I think it could be done artfully.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Kos is having a skirmish between people who think Pelosi should step down and those who believe those guys are idiots

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      I’m with the “those guys are idiots” camp.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Like Hillary, Pelosi seems to be a kind of lightning rod for the right wing. In GA, they had trouble attacking Ossoff directly and instead tried to play the Pelosi is a witch card. Or at least, that’s my impression.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      They’re fucking idiots.

      • Oblios_Cap

        Or, as I like to call them, “humorless fucks”.

      • Marion in Savannah

        Remember way back when they were The Great Orange Satan and people used to sort of pay attention? Way back then?

        • Wild Cat

          Yeah, Markos was a thing 15 years ago, right?

    • SeeTrain65

      It’s Kos. It’s a fucking madhouse there.

    • ariel_gee_398

      Her net favorability numbers are not great, for reasons that are likely dumb and/or sexist. I don’t think she should step down, but I do still worry that somehow Republicans will try to make 2018 all about her and use that animus to turn out their voters. But her numbers are, at least right now, in line with Paul Ryan’s, so the same logic should apply on the other side.

    • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

      So, just another day, then.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    MSNBC white board dork Steve Kornacki spent Tuesday night waxing concern-troll over how if Jon Ossoff couldn’t pull this off in an R+20 district, then Democrats might need to murder their hopes of winning districts where the incumbent Republican won in 2016 by … MUCH FEWER THAN 20 POINTS? No really he was saying this, unless we were hallucinating dumb idiot comments on MSNBC, which is entirely possible.

    Dammit, I usually like Steve Kornacki. He should know better FFS.

    School him, Nate:

    Losses in Georgia and South Carolina don’t necessarily mean Democrats are going to lose in 2018.

    But in terms of the implications for midterm elections in 2018, it’s much less clear that Republicans had a good night. For election forecasting purposes, the margins matter: that Ossoff and Parnell came fairly close to beating their opponents yields a different interpretation than if they’d been blown out. And South Carolina is an important data point, just as Georgia was, even if it received a fraction of as much media attention. The earlier special elections in Kansas’s 4th Congressional District and in Montana’s at-large district provide useful information about the political environment also.

    Democrats have gone 0-for-4 in these races. From an emotional standpoint, the outcomes have been disheartening for Democrats. From an analytical standpoint, however, they’ve ranged between “not bad” and “pretty great” for Democrats as compared with their results from the 2012, 2014 and 2016 elections — consistent with the sorts of results Democrats would expect if they were on track to compete for the House next year.

    All of these races have been held in substantially red districts, although how you measure redness is a key question for Democrats in how they formulate their strategy for 2018. As compared to the 2016 presidential result, for example, the Georgia 6 outcome was hugely disappointing for Democrats, while South Carolina 5 was a boffo performance. Last year, Clinton lost to Trump in Georgia 6 by only 1.5 percentage points. Since Clinton beat Trump by 2 points in the popular vote nationwide, that meant it was only 3 to 4 points more Republican than the country as a whole. And yet, Ossoff lost to Handel by 3.8 points, seemingly making no progress at all. By contrast, South Carolina’s 5th district was 21 points more Republican than the country overall in last year’s presidential election, so for Parnell to have come within about 3 points of Republican Ralph Norman counts as a huge improvement for Democrats.

    tl;dr: the fight is just beginning!

    • Wild Cat

      Kornacki used to dress up as a game-show host. He also brought on Bridgegate witnesses without vetting them beforehand—the mayor of Hoboken for one. It was embarrassing. I turned that awful network off three years ago. It’s there to sell soap. If they do something good by accident, like Joy Reid or a Maddow insight, I can always read about it here.

      • Maggielle

        I’m still hanging with Maddow and my beautiful dream girlfriend Joy Ann Reid, but just sporadically, when I’m housesitting and have access to a television machine. I’ll watch Chris Hayes or Lawrence O’Donnell on occasion, but I’ve never watched the rest of the line-up.

    • proudgrampa

      I’m a little tired of Kornacki…

  • BMW

    I think a Senate victory for Democrats might be a foregone conclusion and a House victory is possible, but purely for “See I told you so” reasons, kind of want the Republicans to just hold onto everything for 4 years. I seem to recall that at at the end of the Bush Administration, Republicans tried to blame Democrats for *everything* because they’d held Congress for the last 2 of Bush’s 8 years.

  • WiscoJoe

    The decay of Frank Luntz’s failure and collapse is an urgent crisis that is destroying and betraying our liberty and principles. His radical hypocrisy and selfish corruption has devoured our pro-children and pro-environment reforms. The self-serving, insecure, bizarre, pessimistic and insensitive ideology that they who carry Luntz’s message threaten to impose on us has only led to stagnation and abuse of power. The status quo of Luntz’s permissive attitudes towards the disgrace of the obsolete anti-liberty Republican patronage machine must be challenged and changed by us those of us with the moral courage to listen, learn, lead and empower citizen activists to mobilize for truth, light and freedom. They will cheat and steal as they make excuses for the intolerant and shallow collapse of Frank Luntz, but we will candidly compete with our pristine vision and commitment to opportunity and prosperity for children, families, peace, hard work, and common sense. Our passionate and proud reforms will pioneer new opportunities to challenge the shame and disgrace of the shallow, sensationalist traitors of the Frank Luntz bureaucracy.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Frank Luntz~ “Maths is hard.”

  • proudgrampa

    So…

    To all the fucksticks who continue to vote for this pro-billionaire, anti-commonsense, support-the-traitors agenda:

    You are going down. It may not be today, it may not be tomorrow. And we may all end up going down with you. But at least we have our eyes wide open — you will be wondering what the hell happened.

    Oh, and fuck you.

    • Ill-Advised

      Tell it, proud!
      Tell it proud.

  • Marion in Savannah

    Does this mean that Frank Luntz has taken over Jim Hoft’s mantle as The Dumbest Man On The Internet? Or is Luntz just the dumbest fuck on earth?

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    O/T, but I am having a very frustrating day today with someone who is passive-aggressively suggesting that some of my recent work (approved by the COO, CEO, Director of Marketing, and Regulatory & Legal) is going to get us sued.

    “But I guess we’ll see….”

    Feeling punchy at the moment.

    • Maggielle

      That’s so frustrating. You want to shake them and yell “Just say it, just spit it out, I guess we’ll see what?”

    • Ill-Advised

      Oh, you work with Mary, too?

  • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY
    • Wild Cat

      He couldn’t find a beaver in a whorehouse even with a fistful of hundreds.

      • The Wanderer

        Couldn’t catch clap in a brothel.

        • Shanzgood 16 Days

          I think he’s more of an “ass with a flashlight in both hands” kind of guy, if you know what I mean.

          • Wild Cat

            Well, if that ain’t a picture of gerbiling, I don’t know what is . . .

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            Sorry, I can be kinda gross sometimes.

          • Skeptical_thinker

            Fine by me. It all depends on where the flashlight goes and if it helps Lemmiwinks.

        • thixotropic jerk

          But maybe *golf clap*???? Duknnows

  • MynameisBlarney

    It’s that easy folks.

    http://i.imgur.com/LO78I4S.jpg

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Honestly, if I had to choose, I would probably opt for shariah over volleyball.

    • Wild Cat

      Yeah, Teach, but after Radical Islamic Terrorism, we all go out for sundaes.

  • Ωbjectifier

    It must be difficult to braid one’s own grundle fur.

  • Canis Greyhame

    I’m pretty sure Luntz knows what he’s doing, except for when it comes to dental hygiene. Clearly the spin on the right today is all about trying to curb Democratic voter enthusiasm. Among Republicans in Congress, it’s probably only the Devin Nuneses and Louie Gohmerts of the party who are dumb enough to think the narrow win yesterday was anything other than a bad omen for their prospects in 2018.

    • Marion in Savannah

      “Clearly the spin on the right today is all about trying to curb Democratic voter enthusiasm.”

      THIS!

      • Carpe Vagenda

        You know, if you think about it, it’s kind of encouraging how nadsterical the usual suspects are getting about trying to curb Democratic enthusiasm

        • Marion in Savannah

          What’s even better is that it doesn’t seem to be working. I hope.

          • Carpe Vagenda

            Nope, it really doesn’t.

        • Shanzgood 16 Days

          NADSTERICAL

          Sorry, I can’t seem to stop shouting.

  • Carpe Vagenda
  • WotsAllThisThen

    Why pussyfoot around with stats?

    “Ossoff got the fewest votes of any candidate in history. Period.” -S Spicer

    • proudgrampa

      I’m pretty sure I got fewer votes in the Student Council election of 1965.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        Tell Spicey that to his face!

      • Shanzgood 16 Days

        Did you run though?

        • proudgrampa

          I did, actually. I promised a chicken in every pot and at least one “A” on every report card, but lost in one of the closest elections in Junior High School History.

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            So only 3 people voted?

          • proudgrampa

            Ouch! I have more friends than THAT!

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            Sorry! That was because you said you received the fewest votes, it wasn’t meant as an insult!

  • whitroth

    I will contribute to Issa’s challenger. I hate that fucker – and note, he’s been one of the Rethuglicans in control of DC (which has a higher population than all of Montana, but scum like him can tell Eleanor Holmes Norton to sit down and shut up, and no, we don’t want you to have needle exchange programs, and….)

  • The Wanderer

    Did someone hit Luntz in the face with a coal shovel at some point in his life?

  • ltmcdies
    • Shanzgood 16 Days

      THIS DOLL HAD BETTER NOT BE REAL

      • GreenGoldSharpie

        Meh, look at those brows and those pink lips.

        This is not hipster Ken, it’s non-binary Ken. “They/Their” are their pronouns. ;-)

        • Shanzgood 16 Days

          See, that’d only be funny coming from you and maybe half a dozen others here!

          • GreenGoldSharpie

            I know, we transes can get away with it.

            Disclaimer: I totally respect non-binary people, and I make teasing jabs as us trans women too. ;-)

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            What’s sad is that I also know trans women who catch shit from some of the NB crowd. I’m like COME ON! NB people don’t give cis folks crap, why are they so hard on trans people?! Things are difficult enough in the community already!

          • GreenGoldSharpie

            There’s always going to be THOSE people.

            I mean, Blaire White exists.

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            I had to look her up and…ugh.

          • GreenGoldSharpie

            Sorry, shoulda warned you. :-D

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            Nah, I’ve already run up against enough TERFs so that wasn’t a shock to the system any more than Republican women are.

      • SadDemInTex

        It is.

        • Shanzgood 16 Days

          Feckin hell. My 20yo son wears one but only when he needs to be practical and keep his luxurious Fabio locks clean and/or out of the way any more.

          • Skeptical_thinker

            I’ve seen this hairstyle in the northernmost and southernmost national capital cities. In the north, it seems to be simple practicality. It is rainy and windy and both men and women will wear their hair in buns to keep it neat.

            In the south, I think it is partially cultural as I saw many Maori men with buns. Some of then when doing the Haka. Do NOT laugh at a Maori doing the Haka.

            Don’t ask me how I know that.

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            It also feels nice to put it up when it’s hot and sticky out.

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            Er, nice.

          • Skeptical_thinker

            I like it when mine is hot, sticky and out…

            Did I over-share?

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            No, go on!

            (I’m sure others want to know.)

          • Skeptical_thinker

            When I take the pork butt out of the smoker it is hot, sticky and (oh, I did say: out).

            What were you thinking?

          • Shanzgood 16 Days

            Um. Never mind?

      • Fartknocker

        Nope. Not embracing this. Look, if your a man and you want a hair bun, do it like Aunt Bee who lived in Mayberry. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fe4fbef1e4fed6893aa33635bc79db1e60df717557a7fdb7ff93afe030b6ed13.jpg

    • Canis Greyhame

      Just jumping on the man-bun bandwagon! Damn kids these days, walking around with a full head of hair and THIS is what they do with it? smh

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      NOOOOooooooo!11!111

    • proudgrampa

      Uh. Nice bun(?).

  • Jgb979

    This was Newt Gingrich’s district.

    It’s still NO EXCUSE for electing someone as physically, morally, spiritually repulsive as Karen Handel. Holy shit wealthy suburban Georgia whites what the fuck is wrong with you.

    I’m pissed

    But there’s plenty to take positive for the future. Dems STILL have to have a message that resonates “I will make your life better” and not just assume historic republicans will be crushed by their growing sense of shame.

    Republicans have no shame.

  • x111e7thst

    aborted ferret fetus

    • thixotropic jerk

      aborto honey badger fetus don’t care cos aborto honey badger fetus EATED ALL 2 BRAIN CELLS IN HANDIE HANDEL’S SKULL SO THERE1111!

  • what, me worry?

    Here, I think I can help with some context.

    Did Price’s D challenger, Rodney Stooksbury, spend no advertising money and still get almost 120k votes? Why yes. Yes he did.

    Did Ossoff spend a shit-ton of money and get less than that? Again, yes.

    Did Ossoff get beat by a larger margin than Clinton got beat in this district, in a race the Ds were claiming was a referendum on Trump? Yep.

    See, Ossoff’s plan to appear to be a moderate republican with no actual agenda didn’t work, because there was already a republican in the race. Why would a Republican vote for a Democrat who sounds like a republican if there’s already a Republican to vote for? Doesn’t make sense. If Ossoff actually had a policy agenda beyond the pablum of “Congress wastes too much money!!”, and “I’m not an awful grasping harpy like Karen Handel!!”, voters in the district might have had time for him. As it is, he’s just another Dem centrist with no new ideas.

    Now, Is Wonkette now trying to tell you to forget what the race was supposed to mean, in a game of post-facto expectation setting? Seems so.

    • Yr. Gma

      Go away, concern troll.

    • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

      From a Dem centrist – find somewhere else to prance, purity pony. Our stables are full.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        don’t bother- see my comment on the lyin ads thread from yesterday for exactly who and what “what, me worry?” actually is..

    • MynameisBlarney
    • He shoulda ran like that Montana progressive that got Bernie’s approval.

      • oooo went and self deleted. Cute.

        I will answer you here.

        The guy in Montana turned down the DNC’s money.
        Try some fact, it is good for you.

    • thixotropic jerk

      so you’re saying they shoulda run Bernie instead then?

      • Thing is, they tried just that in Montana! And had the same result! In a predictably safe red district!
        Amazing how this works. Almost like…Republicans in Republican districts vote for Republicans.

        • Carpe Vagenda

          Cenk’s primary the Democrats in red state open primaries group just gave an interview where they said Quist lost because he wasn’t a real populist.

          https://twitter.com/JStein_Vox/status/877587238380388353

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            the same delusions as the right- conservatism Bernieism can never fail, conservatism Bernieism can only be failed

    • ariel_gee_398

      Trump seemed to do fine running primarily on “I’m not an awful grasping harpy like Hillary.” It was worth a shot.

    • thixotropic jerk

      I think you have some points but i also think you have no way of proving them correct. It would be nice if all your assertions we’re true and the voters felt that way but its more complicated

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      If being pro-choice, pro-LGBT, pro-women’s rights, and against prison for non-violent drug offenses is not sufficient enough when the opposition LITERALLY says in a televised debate she does not believe in a livable wage and that her particular sky-person beliefs override the rights of other human beings, then either your standards are way too high for the grubby world of politics or you were not paying attention.
      As I said yesterday, if you disagree with some pieces of what he stood for the solution is to elect him and then push him towards the things you feel he needs to change. Not stand idly by and watch someone who stands opposed to everything you think is good and just win, because they won’t even bother to give you the time of day.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a64f27deb0a6b03c504a65e43199da4cd64ee7fe8ed4d20f01c21ebd7655d7a2.gif

  • SadDemInTex

    Why can’t that fuckwit Henserling be on that list? Oh, right BECAUSE HE HAD NO DEMOCRAT RUNNING AGAINST HIM…I had to vote for the fucking Libertarian. Thank god we have someone running against him this time. Please send monies to Ron Wood. Help me change my moniker to LessSadDemInTex.

  • Yr. Gma

    All the pundits and all the naysayers will hold forth on what all of this means, but the truth is that 2018 is a long way off and many things will happen between now and then to affect the vote. I’m hoping one of those things will be an indictment for Donnie, but even if that does not come to pass, there will be other factors coming in to play. A bunch of people will lose their health insurance, for one. This mess will not be cleaned up overnight, and even an Ossoff win would have done little to move things along (although it would have been a nice psychological lift for us.) We need to stop reacting to every little thing as if it’s the end of the world (or The Solution) and just settle in for a long fight. This is going to take years to fix. That’s the bad news. We will fix it eventually. That’s the good news.

    • SadDemInTex

      You and I may be dead by then but I hope the people after us keep up the fight.

  • SayItWithWookies

    Frank Luntz has made a career out of manipulative questioning to eke the right answers out of polls. He’s the reason Karl Rove was so shocked by reality on election night 2012. But it wasn’t really his fault, and he’s got polls to prove it.

    • Wild Cat

      Rove arranged a “Blackwell 2004” for 2012 in Ohio—the Negro cleaned up the White Man’s Mess from 2009-2012, and they wanted it back now that the economy and MidEast were more stabilized. Some operative was caught or fucked up.
      What they arranged in 2016 worked.

  • exinkwretch

    As the immortal Mort Sahl once said, “George McGovern was responsible for Watergate. If Nixon had run unopposed, he would have lost.”

  • Carpe Vagenda

    OK, credit where due: the report is that Sanders has declined to endorse that asshole running against DWS who’s spreading the Seth Rich story.

    https://twitter.com/MikeNellis/status/877600295790026752

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Jesus, I thought he’d be a good replacement for DWS last election. I had no idea he was a nutter. Seth Rich? That should be immediate grounds to laugh his dumb ass right out of the party.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        Yeah, I’m seriously pissed, because I was all fired up to donate to her opponent. I realize that she wasn’t Clinton’s idea, but all the more reason to be Caesar’s freaking work wife during the damn primaries.

    • HazooToo

      So both of these people are shitheads? Which one is better?

      • Carpe Vagenda

        Well, since the putative challenger is spreading the story that Seth Rich was killed by the DNC, I’m going to hold out for another challenger.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          Bingo- as much as I dislike DWS, the Seth Rich conspiracy is an automatic deal breaker. There are real live people needlessly suffering from that bullshit, as they try to mourn the loss of a family member. Anyone so crass and callow as to push that ugly lie loses- end of story

      • DrBigHead

        Let’s see…. ridiculous allegations of murder vs. unwavering support for predatory payday lenders….

        Seems like a toss-up in the assholery department to me.

  • BMW

    BIG PICTURE TIME:
    Republicans have only won the popular vote ONCE in the last 7 Presidential elections. That’s not the sign of a dying party.

    • That can’t be true. Bush jr the second time, bush Sr and Regan all got the pop vote, non?

      • Antonin Dvorak

        Last 7 cycles goes back to 1992. W’s win in 04 is the “one”. Sr. lost the PV in 92 by 5 million. You’re correct that Reagan won his two and Sr. won it in 88, however.

        • oh. Has it been that many?
          Math is annoying. Especially presidential maths.

      • BMW

        The most recent 7 elections only goes back 25 years.
        Democrats:
        2016, 2012, 2008, 2000, 1996, 1992 (6/7)
        Republicans:
        2004
        (1/7)

    • Bill D. Burger

      And two Repuke nightmares, George Dumbya’ Bush & Donald FUBAR Trump, are both the products of affirmative action.
      Tell that to the Rightie loons next time they bitch about how awful affirmative action is.

  • Master Contrail Program

    So Disqust has a new privacy policy. Will internet comments still influence my thoughts? Hmm. Pappy always said a few dozen square feet of prevention are worth more than a hectare of cure. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5509d1294bba3a866d8156ed632482d4216630945b14c4e51cf858e27ee32dd9.jpg

    • thixotropic jerk

      “We’re gonna need a bigger roll of aluminum”
      ~Chief Tinfoil Brody

  • Joe Beese

    Sean Spicer has had it UP TO HERE with you and your snark.

    When press briefings are allowed to be on-camera, reporters are more likely to ask “snarky questions,” White House press secretary Sean Spicer said in an interview with radio host Laura Ingraham on Wednesday.

    “Where you see a lot of the sniping coming in, a lot of (reporters) want to become YouTube stars and ask snarky questions that’s been asked eight times and that’s their right, that’s their right to do it, but our job is to make sure we’re providing updates and read outs of what the President is doing,” he said, when Ingraham asked about reporters getting frustrated with his off-camera media briefings.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/spicer-off-camera-reporters-less-snarky

    • Shanzgood 16 Days

      You don’t know from snark, you chickenshit. They’re only calling you on your bullshit, and not hardly often enough.

    • Antonin Dvorak

      We tell him the truth and he just thinks it is snark.
      -Harry S Truman, probably.

      • Reporters all got camera phones, right?
        Time to start recording the off camera briefings.

    • ….why would actual reporters want to be you tube stars?
      Does he not know how that works?

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        The only ones who want to become youtube stars are the alt right bloggers like Jim Hoft (#PAYTHEFUCKUP!) and Alex Jones who the WH decided to issue press passes to- for any actual beltway reporter, youtube is a yoooge step down. Once again, there’s that GOP projection we all know and love…

    • thixotropic jerk

      Sez The Qween Of Snipey Spicey Spice
      Further proof the WH is inhabited by vampires; they have absolutely no powers of self-reflection!

    • ltmcdies

      Snowflake!

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        fucking coward…

    • La forza del resistino

      Sean, you don’t know snark until Lewis Black yells at you for 5 minutes and then Sam Bee comes in to play the PTA mom.

  • Carpe Vagenda
    • elviouslyqueer

      Dear Congressional shitmuffins,

      This is how you handle folks who deal in shady, underhanded business. Like, for example, that fucking chump currently occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

      Take notes, assholes. And YOU’RE WELCOME.

      EQ

    • SadDemInTex

      What is wrong with people?

      • therblig

        how long have you got?

  • No UK visit for you donald trump.

    You should feel bad.

  • Professor Fate

    Well they would have twisted themselves into human pretzels in order to say that the Democrat winning was just an outlier because reasons.
    Still remember when Scott Brown won a special election in MA for the Senate and everybody was saying this was the start of a GOP comeback MA? Yeah that happened.

    • thixotropic jerk

      would to have won ifn weren’t for the punkin riots!!!!
      SEXXY SCOTTY FOR SENATE 2000WHNVR!!!!

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Great, you mentioned that race and now I have to go egg Martha Coakley’s house again.

      • Skeptical_thinker

        Coakley, cloaca, what every it takes.

  • La forza del resistino

    my CO-1 district is a 12 mile long sliver that seems to have been drawn using a google map to gulag the most Starbucks and Whole Foods outlets.

  • AngryRider

    Is Hurst so bereft of ideas that he has to resort to foul language? Sad that our public discourse has to be so coarse.

    • Ωbjectifier
      • Oblios_Cap

        well, I have ideas but just enjoy using foul language. Birds, hens, guinea fowl, motherfuckers.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Shall we get you some smelling salts? Perhaps a cool drink and a fan for your fainting couch?

    • natoslug

      As the Bronte sisters were wont to say, “piss off.”

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack
    • La forza del resistino

      Evan’s contributions to adding new nouns to the language are such that Merriam-Webster can’t afford to hire him.

    • nightmoth

      Gee, I missed the “no drankin’, no cussin’, no dancin’ “sign. Where is it hanging? It’s sad that Republican discourse has become so hateful and stupid that it would make a preacher cuss.

      • “M”

        “Gee, I missed the “no drankin’, no cussin’, no dancin’ “sign. Where is it hanging?”

        Senate Majority Leader’s office.

        On the right.

      • Magyar Has Had It With Trump

        Your neighborhood Baptist church.

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      Oh look, Angry is back. Aborted Badger fetus is not a swear.

    • covfefesumgame0005

      stop riding your dildo hobby horse so hard and often and you may rid yourself of that dumbass anger

      • Magyar Has Had It With Trump

        Is there a catalog or website to look up these particular items if one was to be interested in purchasing these items. Or a YouTube video to make them? Asking for a friend….

    • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

      I guess you have to give him credit for not exploding on a baseball field or cutting a Law Enforcement Officer’s throat yelling Allah Akbar in Flint Michigan, Evan is still keeping it mostly non-violent, apart from his moronic articles representing violence against rationality,

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      we LIKE foul language. It’s fun and expressive.

      FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.

    • therblig

      another moronic turd?

  • rubikcube

    Let’s not say Dumbest fuck…I would rather say “Fuck with under-utilized education potential”…or some such Luntz-approved-word-shit.

    • whitroth

      How ’bout “dumbest unfucker” – I mean, who’d want to fuck someone that stupid?

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      Fuck challenged.

  • La forza del resistino

    What’s the over/under on how much Frank spent on his hairwear.

    • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

      Definitely less than you moron libturds spent to get exactly 0 new votes, lol,

  • Shanzgood 16 Days

    Did “what, me worry?” get banned? I’ve tried to reply a couple of times now and it’s all a no-go.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      hopefully

      • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

        Aww, is the wittwe snowfwake feewing insecuwe,

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          aww, did “what me worry” get banhammered and decide to show its true ugly self?

          Fuck off, snowflake

          • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

            “snowflake” No need to sign your posts, sweetie, we can see what you are,

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            as can we, barely literate fuckwit…

          • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

            “barely literate fuckwit” Again, darling, no need to sign your posts,

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Try harder, fuckwit, you’re boring

          • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

            “fuckwit” You must have mistaken me for your Mother, sweetie,

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            And you’ve mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck, Skippy. You’re just midafternoon target practice until someone comes along and bans your dumb ass.

          • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

            Lol, is there anything more pathetic than a proud #Resister calling for moderator action,

            “I NEED SOME MUSCLE HERE!” as that moron SJW “professor” screamed at actual journalists,

            you people are sad really,

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Lol, is there anything more pathetic than a proud #Resister calling for moderator action

            Yes, in fact there is- YOU. Try harder fuckwit, I’m quickly losing interest in swatting you around

          • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

            “fuckwit” Again you mistaking me for your Mother, perhaps you need new glasses, dear,

          • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

            Also you couldn’t “swat around” a wet paper bag, who are you kidding,

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Actually, I seem to have no problem making you dance around like the little plaything that you are. Now show the class again how angry you get when I point out that you’re a barely literate fuckwit. Your impotent fury makes them laugh and laugh…

          • kareemachan

            I almost wish I had read some of its comments.

            Almost.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Naw, they were pretty boring, just garden variety rw hate and a rather weak attempt at gloating. The usual troll garbage. The best parts were the bad grammar and misspelling

          • jesterpunk
          • spangled

            so the little “bernie or bust” concern troll was an alt-right asshole all along. I swear about 90% of this type are. A fairytale ending.

          • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

            Lol, you are *such* a moron,

          • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

            “alt-right”

            Lol, you morons couldn’t win a toilet seat, let alone a House one,

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            I’d bet on it- either a hopelessly confused BoB with some ugly just under the surface or a complete fraud- either way a loser

          • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

            “I’d bet on it” Lol, I bet you bet your ossoff too on your moron Hollyweird wacko winning, *snigger*,

  • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

    Evan Hurst is a moron,

  • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

    Lol, you morons here are the dumbest people on Earth,

  • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

    Evan Hurst looks like a jihadi suicide bomber in training,

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Go home Frank, you’re drunk

      BTW, it’s “friendly”, dumbass

      • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

        “Frank” You must have mistaken me for your Father, is he drunk often? you poow wittwe thing,

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          you might try reading the article, dumbass

          I know it’s hard, but maybe you can get some liberal to help you sound out the big words and explain the concepts in terms that will fit on a bumpersticker

          • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

            Why would I read an article written by a moronic lefttard sore loser who denies reality for a living to feed moron libturds like you your daily dose of propaganda,

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Maybe one of those libturds can teach you the difference between a comma and a question mark, fuckwit.

          • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

            “fuckwit” You are really big on signing your every post huh,

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos
          • therblig

            and yet, you showed up here. i guess just to run your finger under the headlines and try reading them.

          • Hemp Dogbane

            Have you considered spelling it “Nieghborhood”?

          • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

            The best part is the repeated use of a comma to end a sentence–nice!!! ,,,

  • PigDootsMolloy
  • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

    “Wonkette is fully funded by readers like you, because we ain’t got ads. If you love us, click below to fund us”

    Lol, you *absolutely worthless* beggars,

  • UR_FREINDLY_NEIGHBORHOOD_TROLL

    Good, another board of snivelling lefttards reduced to looking like Gaza and sounding like a well-bulldozed Antifa riot,

    • therblig

      this must be the douchebag the mentioned in one of the other threads. yeah, pretty boring and pointless.

      • jesterpunk

        Pathetic too, upvoting their own comments.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          Nothing worse than some wanker fapping in public

        • therblig

          bet he sits on his own hand until it falls asleep so he can jerk off and pretend it’s his sister.

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        Sniveling – CHECK
        Left-tards – CHECK
        Gaza–ooh, nice dog whistle antisemitism! DOUBLE CHECK
        Bulldozer reference– unclear, no check
        Antifa – CHECK
        Riot – CHECK
        Sadly, no mention of “emails” or “cuck,” which I needed for a bingo

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8ba3735ca8f8dd58f865e803151bcbdf0a48115d050ff2c98000c36bbbd2ae58.gif

        • Parakeetist

          I hate missing by one space. Almost got $17!

    • Sharon Cooper

      Oh, sweetheart, if you want to upset me, you’ll have to try considerably harder than that.

      Bet he’s the sort that has to sneak up on his own hand to masturbate.

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    i guess he finally had his troll-gasm.

    Somebody get a mop.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Dok Clean up on aisle 5. Not even worth the Sunday shit fer brains feature. Needs mohr crazy.

  • Hemp Dogbane

    https://www.minnpost.com/community-voices/2017/06/castile-yanez-case-its-not-over-yet

    Putting this here though topic is Philando Castile case and possible civil suit.

  • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

    It’s still like sportsball. If a team was in the basement last season, and they came back in the new season with second string players and began losing by a few goals where they should have been losing bigly, the winning teams would be fools to gloat. They should be sitting up and paying attention.
    On the other hand, the losing team doing better could be starting a great year, or they could fade out later in the season. It’s too early to tell. The energy does appear to be on our side, though. The problem is that we’re playing a bunch of cheaters.

  • covfefesumgame0005

    I am a bit worried I lured the troll here, i kinda went crazy sharing a couple of stories today. I am just sad it is a pathetic one that came by. sorry folks, I hope the next one is at least entertaining!

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      I think it’s more that they get offended by the tone of Doks or Beccas or Evans posts and bumble around like a drunk yellow jacket trapped in a beer can, attempting to sting whatever.

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        That is a perfect description of them

      • Parakeetist

        Now I skeered

      • NellCote71

        I love yellow-jacket description. Am stealing.

      • I took it as the troll reading the title of Evan’s post and somhow seeing it as a “challenge”

    • Anna E Killsright, Agent KELLY

      No worries. :)

  • bbayliss

    I cannot find the clip, but Samantha Bee’s interview with Luntz is a work of art.
    She asks him to provide some alternative buzzwords and finishes with “Orwellian”, he is dumbstruck.

    • Johnny Appleseed

      Ya, it doesn’t take much to throw off most of them. They think they know what they’ve been “done skewled on”…the end.

  • Mystery_Poster

    At the science march in Chattanooga, I met a nice doctor woman named Danielle Mitchell. She was one of the speakers, and we got to talking afterwards. Turns out she is going to be challenging Chicken Chuck Fleischmann for his seat in 2018. I signed on to help. BTW, he’s Chicken Chuck because he wouldn’t show up to a town hall despite being in town that day, not for diving into the dugout like a common Homer Simpson during the shooting.

    Anyway, check out Dr. Mitchell. She has an interesting story. As a kid, she lost a brother due to a preventable disease due to her family’s inability to afford medical care. She used to be 100 lbs overweight, now she runs marathons.

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    As I recall, the Union lost a whole bunch of battles to the Confederates and still prevailed at the end. A most apt analogy, except we are doing it with votes, per the Rules for Radicals.

    • Graham

      Nah, that probably won’t happen.

      • kareemachan

        Pfft.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        Well, I guess that settles it. GRAHAM says it probably won’t happen… so…

    • TundraGrifter

      Then look at Gen. Washington’s record during the American Revolution. He lost most of the battles he fought. Until the last one.

  • Graham

    It’s a tweet. All of this goes without saying.

    • Parakeetist

      What?

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      No. It’s derpitude, cupcake.

  • mary5920

    I will resist the urge to simply rhyme Luntz’s name; however, he is truly a dunce. He’s spent years concocting the right labeling to make horrible things seem good and good things seem horrible, and then expresses a curiosity as to why our electorate is so divided, and discourse is so nasty.
    DUHnz.

    • BreakingDeadMen

      It ___z the lotion in the basket

  • “Where can you get involved NOW?”

    DCCC.org

    D-Triple-C

    * the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee
    * the official campaign arm of the Democrats in the House of Representatives
    * the only political committee in the country whose principal mission
    is to support Democratic House candidates every step of the way to
    victory

  • Panika MCD

    the TX 23rd is the swingingest district in the state what with more than half the border. it usually goes for a D (Pete Gallegos in particular) in the presidential and an R (usually Will Hurd) in the midterm. a bunch of people got scared into staying home in 2016 because there are a ton of militia dudes down there and we all heard the bullshit they were pulling. but those militia types are probably going to vote for a third party shithead next time after they are reminded how the wall is going to require Tsarina Bigly Wall tonpuss eminent domain all over their properties…or they’ll take up with the Republic of Texas assholes–either way, they won’t be helping Will Hurd…which is almost a shame as he’s one of the few moderates left. I’m almost convinced he and Pete just share the same staff they trade that district so often.

  • dshwa

    Claudia Tenney is my “representative”. She’s been taking such a beating on Trumpcare that she refuses to hold town hall (paid protesters, natch) and communicates to her constituents only through Facebook and Twitter. The opposition to her is mounting.

    • Ninja0980

      She’s no Richard Hanna, that’s for sure.

      • dshwa

        I honestly didn’t mind Hanna. I didn’t agree with him much, but you could at least voice your opinion and he’d listen. Tenney is straight up true believer tea bagger, convinced that she and the rest of the lunatics represent the “real” America and are god’s chosen legislators. I dream of her being on the receiving end of a floor wiping in 2018.

        • Ninja0980

          Plus he was one of the only Republicans to support LGBT rights and abortion.
          As you said, Tenney is a Michelle Bachmann wannabe and needs to be given the boot.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      “Flee” Zeldin is my “rep,” and he’s been doing the same. He refuses to hold town halls and only shows up at fundraising events and on CNN.

      The district is currently rated Likely Republican, but opposition, as you say, is mounting.

  • Pat_Pending

    Evan gives me hope.

  • Hey political pundits (particularly the “armchair quarterbacks” variety who insist that, no really, they would have won the big game if the coach would have just let them make the pass): I’m sure you’re proud of that “Introduction to Symbolism” course you took in college, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    • Mathew G. Smith

      But as American philosopher George Carlin said, “sometimes it’s a big brown dick.”

    • CafeenMan

      We lost the big game because the coach let me make that pass.

    • phoenix00

      Soooo what’s your point? Remove yourself from the game and take your cleats off?

      • I probably over-extended the metaphor a bit, but my point is that pundits and the “Twitterati” are reading way too much into some of these elections. Particulay the idea that EVERY election or political battle from now on MUST somehow be a reharsh of the 2016 national election. Where there is NO Jon Ossof, but thousands of politicians wearing Trump or Clinton or Sanders masks. Yes Dems want seats, but I don’t think every single electon in the world (“what does the French elections mean for us?”) needs to be viewed pure from the 2016 symbolic prism.

        • phoenix00

          That’s fair, but one of the longstanding criticisms of the DNC is their focus on the top of the ticket – you gotta go find your Jon Ossoffs, the ones that are willing to put their skin in the game at the local and state levels. In order to win a championship, you gotta play the regular season and the playoffs.

  • RON

    Rachel Madcow: Rainy Days and Tuesdays always get me Down……

    • Don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      Hurr durr. Piss off back to Breitbart, you nasty creep.

      • RON

        You Liberals are all alike aren’t you? The urge to control every ones thought process is just overwhelming, it isn’t enough you brainwash the young kids in colleges and control the media, you want to control the narrative everywhere, because your ideas can’t stand it to the light, because yo are all Socialists. And Socialism has failed everywhere its been tried, because only idiots believe in it.

        • Um, that doesn’t relate to anything they just said. Insecure, huh?

          • RON

            It was stated about you because of what you said bright boy

          • See the arrow next to your name, on that comment? See what it points to? Tell me, my good man, is that my username?

            I suppose it makes sense you can’t use the comment service properly, because of course on Wonkette comments aren’t allowed.

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          I’m not trying to “control” anything, cupcake. You’re just a ignorant troll and I just thought you’d be happier among other the other nasty, ignorant trolls who cluster around rubbing one another’s imaginary grievances over at Dead Breitbart’s Home for Ignorant Derpitude.

          I’m sorry you think that what kids learn in college – how to research facts and apply critical thinking and intellectual rigor to arguments – amounts to “brainwashing,” but hey! Thanks for making it crystal clear that you don’t have a clue as to what goes on in college.

          I can understand that you denigrate education because it upsets you that educated people are less likely to buy the bullshit you believe in, but regardless of the compassion I have for your formless rage at not having your ignorance respected, facts are facts, so buck up, snowflake. You’re not the first right-wing nutjob I’ve seen freaking out because actual facts have a well-known liberal bias…and given the way you twits just uncritically gobble up any bullshit RW extremists throw your way, you won’t be the last.

          I have to say, though… this naive belief you gullible asswipes have that liberals “control the media” is hilarious. The facts show that while a small majority of reporters lean liberal, the ACTUAL media is controlled by about 6 corporations, all of which gave heavily to the GOP. If the media really WAS controlled by the left, then Trump’s deflecting antics would have been ignored on the campaign trail, politicians would have been asked about issues, and you all would have heard the ACTUAL speech from which your endlessly-polished butthurt about “deplorables” came.

          It’s also funny to see nitwits like you whinging on about how “socialism has failed everywhere its [sic] been tried,” considering that the places it’s been tried include screaming hellscapes like Germany, Sweden, Japan, Canada, Denmark, France, and a number of other countries… ALL of whom have better quality of life, a better-educated population, better healthcare, and less violence than we do. Facts, again…and poor you, you’re clearly allergic. In fact, hilariously, the only thing ACTUAL “idiots believe” in your statement is that socialism “has failed everywhere its [sic] been tried.”

          And FYI, we’re not “all” socialists. You wouldn’t know that, because, again, there’s no liberal media to either fairly represent the policies and platforms of people with whom you disagree, or to explain the ACTUAL meaning of socialism to you so that you can tell the difference between Democratic moderates, liberals, and actual socialists. The short version is that words mean things, and socialist has a meaning that doesn’t apply to many of the people you try to tar with your left-over Cold War smears.

          And by the way, you don’t need to capitalize socialist (or liberals, for that matter) because it’s not a proper noun. I can understand your confusion, since you’re clearly more familiar with it as part of the name of a party you clearly admire and follow, but when used the way you used it – to describe a political ideology or people who, to some degree, support it – it’s not capitalized. You probably would have learned that by the fifth grade, had you continued to attend school, but I’m happy to explain it to you now.

          K. Bai!!

          • RON

            Trump is smashing you dimwits faces in. Climate Change Lol = Naive Simpleton.

          • sgt. jmk of the résistance

            LOL Is that all you got, Derp Boy?

        • tinker12

          It’s always projection with you Reicht-winged jerkholes. Always.

          • RON

            Your party are the fascist boy.

          • tinker12

            Your sentence makes no sense — just like you. Fk off and go to Breitfart where you belong.

          • RON

            Commie Boy

  • motmelere

    Uff, da guy sucks so much oxygen from the room it’s hard to catch a breath. This spin shitter must not be accepted as real journalism in lieu of infoWaRes!!!!1! Tone it down all you like, it’s still orange in the Whitehouse because my coworkers hate the migrant workers they’ve never met.

    • CafeenMan

      I like to ask wing nuts what job specifically they want that an illegal took from them. ???

  • phoenix00

    that’s something you know even if you’re just an aborted badger fetus with two brain cells to rub together and a passing knowledge of American electoral politics?

    Some days, we are all aborted badger fetuses…..

  • shocktreatment

    Frank Luntz may or may not be a contender for “Dumbest Fuck On Earth” (tons of competition for that position) but he’s got the look nailed–

    • Jo Mathie

      That’s because all of these idiots have the same look from the President to right wing pundits. Half awake and sort of “wanted to Jabba The Hutt cosplay” but couldn’t really be bothered.

  • catnmus

    I’m working on Denham in CA-10. I’ve already been canvassing door-to-door, organized by SwingLeft. And I’m an introvert!

  • How do I report a creepster on another thread to Wonkette? Its a thread from a month ago and they’re refusing to just leave me alone. I’m not used to these kinds of shenanigans!

    • Darrell Imaginarian

      Click on the little triangle to the right of their comment. Click “Block User”. You will never see them again. You are welcome.

      • I don’t want them creeping on others though, tbh. Besides, we’ve seen with Trump that ignoring problems doesn’t help us.

        • Darrell Imaginarian

          They banhammer people regularly. So flag the comments. That’s what Flag as inappropriate is for. It’s the one directly below Block User

          • I though that went straight to Disqus? Huh, I’ll do that.

          • Darrell Imaginarian

            Pretty sure that goes to the moderators.

  • beavertank

    There’s an awful lot of ex-Bernie Bro types all up and down my Facebooks crowing about how this proves “the Dems don’t have a message” and how it proves “corporatist Democrats can’t win”.

    …because of a near-tie in a deeply red district…

    It takes serious effort not to put my fist through the screen these days.

  • Dylan

    Luntz is the reason I quit watching that CBS morning show. They always have him & his viewpoint but never have a Dem focus or strategist on to give their viewpoint.

  • Akat

    Brian Fitzpatrick was not the incumbent in PA-08. That was Mike Fitzpatrick, no relation, who did not seek reelection (thank god). Mike came back in the 2010 shit show after having been ousted in 2008. Brian is an independent, but it is totally unclear if he’s of the more moderate sort or tea party sort. Mike’s supporters had actually launched a campaign against him. I was very disappointed he won, but he actually hasn’t totally been voting the Trump party line. Anyway, moral of the story, Bucks County voters are fucking idiots, like a lot of suburban/rural parts of the country, except for me!!

    I am losing faith in 2018 lately and it is depressing, although Evan is certainly pointing out some positive signs.

  • Seriously?

    Alternative theory: Frank Luntz and Robert Smith of the Cure ARE THE SAME PERSON. Look again and tell me I’m wrong.

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