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The boys at the Intercept, much to their chagrin, have scored a big scoop in the story of the Russian hacking of the 2016 American election. Yes, the same Intercept whose founder Glenn Greenwald has been running around for months trying to throw water on any story about Russia, lest it make their ideological comrades Putin, Assange and Snowden look bad in any way. The same Intercept where Greenwald explained, drawing on his best expertise about the SpyWorld, that the Steele Dossier is a buncha bullcrap because did you guys hear the sources in the dossier were anonymous? Pfffffft, everyone knows the first rule of international spy craft is that everybody wears name tags.

The Intercept has published a leaked top-secret report from the NSA that shows that, just a few days before the election, Russia was attempting to hack directly into United States voting systems. It doesn’t show that they were successful (or that they weren’t), but that, far more than a mere campaign of influence, or “putting a bunch of fake news on Facebook,” the Russians were trying to interfere directly with the will of American voters, calling the legitimacy of Donald J. Trump’s “election” into question even more than before:

RUSSIAN MILITARY INTELLIGENCE executed a cyberattack on at least one U.S. voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than 100 local election officials just days before last November’s presidential election, according to a highly classified intelligence report obtained by The Intercept.

The top-secret National Security Agency document, which was provided anonymously to The Intercept and independently authenticated, analyzes intelligence very recently acquired by the agency about a months-long Russian intelligence cyber effort against elements of the U.S. election and voting infrastructure. The report, dated May 5, 2017, is the most detailed U.S. government account of Russian interference in the election that has yet come to light. […]

The report indicates that Russian hacking may have penetrated further into U.S. voting systems than was previously understood. It states unequivocally in its summary statement that it was Russian military intelligence, specifically the Russian General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate, or GRU, that conducted the cyber attacks described in the document.

Unequivocally! Russia! The GRU! Are we sure it wasn’t Seth Rich in the billiard room with the candlestick? Just kidding, that would be an “unhinged, fact-free” thing to say, the same words Glenn Greenwald used back in March to describe evidence that Team Trump colluded with Russia.

And they used spear-phishing! Except this time they weren’t after John Podesta’s risotto cooking secrets, but rather after the insides of computers belonging to election officials and employees of a voting software company. Can’t imagine the Russians would have had any use for THAT sort of information.

Or maybe we CAN imagine. The Intercept reports on VR Systems, a target of the attack, which makes “electronic voting services and equipment whose products are used in eight states”:

VR Systems doesn’t sell the actual touchscreen machines used to cast a vote, but rather the software and devices that verify and catalogue who’s permitted to vote when they show up on Election Day or for early voting. Companies like VR are “very important” because “a functioning registration system is central to American elections,” explained Lawrence Norden, deputy director of the Brennan Center for Justice at the NYU School of Law. […]

Pamela Smith, president of election integrity watchdog Verified Voting, agreed that even if VR Systems doesn’t facilitate the actual casting of votes, it could make an alluring target for anyone hoping to disrupt the vote.

“If someone has access to a state voter database, they can take malicious action by modifying or removing information,” she said. “This could affect whether someone has the ability to cast a regular ballot, or be required to cast a ‘provisional’ ballot — which would mean it has to be checked for their eligibility before it is included in the vote, and it may mean the voter has to jump through certain hoops such as proving their information to the election official before their eligibility is affirmed.”

Why try to monkey around with actual vote totals when you can just delete people from the voter rolls? Of course, the NSA report doesn’t rule out the possibility that they could have fucked with vote totals too.

As the Intercept notes, the spear-phishing emails that started this operation were sent by the Russians on August 24, 2016. In September, President Barack Obama warned Vladimir Putin to cut it the fuck out with election tampering. However, this NSA report shows that, far from stopping, the Russians were able to create a fake Gmail account on October 27 “designed to appear as if it belonged to an employee at VR Systems,” and also executed another phase of the attack on October 30 or November 1, during the 11 days the election was being loudly derailed by former FBI director James Comey’s letter to Congress about Hillary Clinton’s emails:

The NSA assessed that this phase of the spear-fishing operation was likely launched on either October 31 or November 1 and sent spear-fishing emails to 122 email addresses “associated with named local government organizations,” probably to officials “involved in the management of voter registration systems.”

Was the election being derailed quietly that week, while we were all focused on the “SQUIRREL!” of Hillary’s emails? We just don’t know. In December, President Obama stated that after he gave his warning to Putin, U.S. officials didn’t see any more evidence of election meddling by the Russians. Guess they found some eventually!

A 25-year-old NSA contractor in Augusta, Georgia, named Reality Leigh Winner (ain’t shittin’ ya), has been arrested by the FBI for doing the leaking, giving the Trump administration its first win in a war on leaks, though it doesn’t seem like they worked very hard for their “win.” Ms. Winner (Winner Chicken Dinner), though some may deem her actions heroic, seems new at this “leaking” thing:

Last month, Winner allegedly “printed and improperly removed classified intelligence reporting, which contained classified national defense information” before mailing the materials to an unnamed online news outlet a few days later, according to prosecutors. […]

Investigators were able to tell from a copy of the report provided by the unnamed media outlet that the report had been printed, according to court filings. A computer search revealed that Winner had had email contact with the media outlet, according to an FBI affidavit.

Eek. She just printed it out on NSA computers and was emailing back and forth with The Intercept at work? We … don’t think that is Best Practices when it comes to whistle-blowing.

And it appears The Intercept wasn’t armed with the know-how to protect its source properly, sharing the document it received with the NSA in such a way that investigators were able to press a few buttons and identify the leaker pretty darn fast:

Rarely is it said, “Is our The Intercept learning?” And we’re not saying it now either! Here is a blog post that explains more about how easily trackable this leak was. NOTE TO WOULD-BE LEAKERS: If you have an important thing to leak, try the Washington Post or ProPublica.

However, we do give credit to The Intercept for going ahead and publishing this, as it DOES seem very important! We’ve been told for months to rest secure in the knowledge that, regardless of what the Russians or Team Trump did, there is NO EVIDENCE they were successful in changing the election result. OR WERE THEY? In the FBI’s eagerness to arrest and prosecute Ms. Winner, it basically confirms the authenticity of this report, and acknowledges that the Russians got so far with their hacking campaign that they were actually targeting voting systems, which just throws an even bigger cloud over the legitimacy of the 2016 election.

On the other hand, maybe this is not a big deal at all! Glenn Greenwald and Jeremy Scahill, co-editors of The Intercept, do not have bylines on this piece. We imagine, considering their history on All Things Russia, that the Intercept journalists who got this leak required their bosses to recuse themselves from the story like a common Jeff Sessions and Devin Nunes.

Here are Greenwald and Scahill shitting on their own reporting on Twitter:

(It should be remembered, Scahill is a much better journalist than Greenwald and isn’t always an asscap.)

So what have we learned, class? For one, the Russians got much further than we ever knew (though we suspected as much). A young NSA contractor lady named Reality Winner — who actually seems like a pretty cool person, honestly — leaked this important document, and now she is in trouble, partially because even when The Intercept is awesome, it still manages to fuck it up, by burning its own sources.

And finally, as always, Glenn Greenwald sucks.

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  • Michael R
  • Nounverb911

    Do I smell professional jealousy coming from Greenwald or did he just fart?

    • msanthropesmr

      Why not both?

    • Bill D. Burger

      Yes!

  • MynameisBlarney

    https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029165978

    Reality Winner VS. Reality Loser. Turmps lies revealed by leak

  • Vincent Ricola

    Paper ballots 4eva.

    • Sedagive ’em Hell

      Paper receipts also, too.

  • msanthropesmr

    HELLO. I am fine upstanding wonketari. Please send me your login credentials so that I can allow you to comment.

    • Nounverb911

      Userid: Deadbreitbart
      Password: r0ttingc0rpse#

      • Villago Delenda Est

        That’s actually not a bad password.

    • jesterpunk
    • By the by, what is mother’s maiden name? She old friend of proletariat neighbor, I am thinking.

      • msanthropesmr

        And first pet, what was always eating our laundry, what was name again?

  • schmannity

    “Why try to monkey around with actual vote totals when you can just delete people from the voter rolls?”

    You can delete people without all the muss and fuss of voter ID laws? Tell me more!

    –The GOP, nationwide.

  • msanthropesmr

    You know, her emails.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Greenwald has unveiled himself as a worthless little Putin puppet.

  • Sedagive ’em Hell

    Nope: the most capable, experienced, sane and qualified candidate of our lifetime lost because she cackled, was lazy with her emails, and had lady parts.

    Stop making up excuses!!1!!1!!

  • William
    • Villago Delenda Est

      All the sudden some Chinese guys break into Kushner’s place and pee on his rug that “brought the room together.”

      • msanthropesmr

        Instead of a Marmot they throw a panda in the tub.

        • ZangoCrudmonger

          And threaten to cut off his tsan shen.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Do penalties for late payments include wooden slivers being jammed under one’s fingernails?

      • William

        Or a visit from Honorable Rocko-sun

    • TJ Barke

      I wanted to say robbing America to pay ____ but I don’t know any Chinese names that rhyme with Paul…

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      There are quite a few fine title loan places out there for them to choose from.

      • TJ Barke

        And guys named Vinnie, and Benny.

    • Paul Dietzel

      Well, the Powerball is starting to build up pretty well again.

    • arglebargle

      Wait a minute. You’re saying a Trump is going to pay a debt? Fake news, obvs.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Republicans everywhere: “Well, in addition to that. Vladimir said he didn’t do it….and well, that’s good enough for me.”

  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

    NOTE TO WOULD-BE LEAKERS: If you have an important thing to leak, try the Washington Post or ProPublica.

    And if you have the pee hooker tapes cc: Wonkette at tips@wonkette.com

    • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

      SendItToRachel.com

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Villago Delenda Est

      The “Deep State”, sworn to uphold the Constitution, can’t be trusted, but the minions of Russian fascist kleptocrats can be.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Da, comrade….

        Er…I mean, yes, friend.

  • memzilla Ω

    In related news about Russian penetration of the US Government, Dolt 45 claims credit for Qatar’s isolation. Dolt 45 apparently unaware that CENTCOM is based in Qatar and is where we run all our Middle Eastern ops from. I’m sure Putin couldn’t be happier.

    HAH you libtards keep saying that Cheeto Benito never listens to anyone!

    • cmd resistor

      I thought he LIKED Qatar. Seems like he used the airport as an example of how shitty AMerican airports were in contrast.

      • Indivisible Snark Tank

        No, he likes “ka-TAR”. It’s “CUT-ter” he can’t stand.

    • PubOption

      Gutter politics. (Your pronunciation may vary.)

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      What a maroon. He stepped into the middle of this mess thanks to a little flattery and a gold plated medal from the Saudis.

      • arglebargle

        He got to finger an orb, also too.

  • Joe Beese

    I’m set in my ways and don’t hold with all this “cyber” whatsis. What happened to good old-fashioned military coups?

    • PubOption

      Francois Truffaut directed 400.

  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    So, my take on this is that (after Comey testifies), the official trump administration response will be: “No Russian! No Russian! You’re the Russian!”….

  • Vincent Ricola

    So real question here – what is different in the document that Reality Winner leaked compared to what had already been widely-reported last year? I’ve done minimal research, but am hoping someone who is better informed can dot my i.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/29/politics/hackers-breach-illinois-arizona-election-systems/index.html

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-state-election-databases-hacked-than-previously-thought/

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russians-hacked-two-u-s-voter-databases-say-officials-n639551

    • msanthropesmr

      Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

    • Steve Cole

      Also wondering this. If paying attention, this not seem to add much.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Said document has the words “Top Secret” stamped on it.

      That small technicality means a lot.

      • Vincent Ricola

        We’re really just talking about someone leaking known information then, not someone leaking new information. Got it. Thank you.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          The protocols are such that if you have access to classified, even if it’s out in the public domain via a leak that you had nothing to do with, you still can’t talk about it.

          • Steve Cole

            This is true. You might wonder why take such a risk without sharing a more exciting prize. Are you also a member of the community?

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    Who uses their work computer as part of being a leaker? I mean, geez, that’s the rookiest of rookie mistakes!

    • jesterpunk

      She was only there for a few weeks before she leaked this info to the intercept.

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        And why The Intercept? Of all the dumb decisions. Rookie indeed.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Republicans don’t give a shit that our elections, our freedoms and our very way of life has and is being compromised. They only care that we found out about it. ‘

    “Treason…shmeason’…….Who told YOU PEOPLE? That’s what we want to know!”

  • https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c30beed540a634a122891e0c0a3b333f0e505ff3d364fa0e5f150e82a4dddcbe.jpg

    “Donald Trump, as you now see – we have perfected secret Chicken Ray. A little corn I think for The President, Dmitri.”

    • therblig

      Agent 00Trump: Do you expect me to talk, Poofinger?

      Poofinger: No, Mr. Trump, I expect you to fry.

  • Shoto

    Quick Question: How long before Gazillionaire Pierre Omidyar figures out that he’s pouring money into a bottomless hole?

    • Nounverb911

      When he realizes that the bottomless hole isn’t wearing any pants?

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg
  • TJ Barke

    Electronic voting, a terrible idea; The Motion Picture.
    Except we’re all living in it.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Always.have.a.paper.trail

    • jesterpunk

      The worst part is we could actually do decent secure electronic voting if we actually wanted to. But the current system works much better for people who dont want your votes counted.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Maybe if we convince the Washington Post that binary numbers in our voting machines are why we have a two party system, they will editorialize against it, as they never seem to have seen a “third way” initiative they didn’t like.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Winner’s attorney, Titus Thomas Nichols, declined to confirm whether she is accused of leaking the NSA report received by The Intercept. He also declined to name the federal agency for which Winner worked.

    “My client has no (criminal) history, so it’s not as if she has a pattern of having done anything like this before,” Nichols said in a phone interview Monday. “She is a very good person. All this craziness has happened all of a sudden.”

    Understandable–this craziness has been getting to all of us. I do wish Reality had been better at covering her tracks, though that’s partly The Intercept’s fault. In any event, I thank her for having the courage to speak up for the truth. Best of luck to you, Reality!

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Uh, is her attorney saying she went insane or something?

      • schmannity

        You might have a problem when your attorney says he wished you had done a better job concealing your crime.

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        Something tells me Mr. Nichols didn’t graduate near the top of his class.

        • Ωbjectifier

          It wasn’t the bottom of his class or we would be calling him ‘Your Honor’.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Wait, Reality Winner is being represented by Titus Thomas Nichols?

      Are we absolutely sure we haven’t fallen into a Carl Hiaasen novel?

      • Phoenixdoglover

        Wait ’til you meet her little brother, Lotto.

  • Oblios_Cap

    I wistfully remember the old days, when all that the Russians did was create 5-year plans and stay drunk on the old potato juice.

  • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

    As my sister-in-law put it, “Reality Winner” is the kind of name that happens when you name the kid while still high on the epidural.

    Anywho, is anyone else still kind of perturbed by how limp Obama’s response to all this was? Russia, to everyone with eyes to see, was hacking our election on multiple fronts, and his reaction was “Puuuttiiinnn, stoooooppp ittttt. I’ll tell moooooomm.” No sanctions, no retaliation, no official response whatsoever.

    • Indivisible Snark Tank

      It’s the name of someone BORN to be on “Survivor”. Or better yet, “Big Brother”.

    • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

      *raises hand* I’m definitely perturbed by the seeming lack of inaction by Obama and his team.

      After we’ve sorted all of this – I do think he needs to be called before a Congressional Committee and give a full, detailed explanation of what he did (or didn’t do) and why he did it (or didn’t do it).

      • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

        My guess has always been that Obama avoids drama wherever possible, and he thought making an official deal of this in the middle of an election would make too big a splash. But his total inaction just meant Putin knew that he wouldn’t interfere.

        • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

          You might be right – and that bothers me even more… He certainly had ways of pushing back on the Russians that didn’t involve a proclamation from the podium – yanno?

          It almost like he went, “Fuck it – not my problem anymore.”

        • Bebecca

          and maybe he thought that when the election results were so certain it wouldn’t really matter and we could deal with it later. A miscalculation for sure, maybe self-fulfilling.

    • Sedagive ’em Hell

      “They go low, we go high” didn’t really pan out all that well.

      • tomamitai

        I remember reading an article a long time ago about computer simulations of conflict that showed that the best response when faced with an opponent who cheats is to cheat back proportionally, but go back to following the rules when they do. As I recall, it also said that if you keep following the rules after they cheat it encourages them to continue doing so, and a disproportionate response makes them ramp up their nastiness too.

        • Sedagive ’em Hell

          This was the Kobayashi Maru in action.

          No good solutions.

    • shivaskeeper

      We expelled a bunch of “diplomats” took over the properties that DJT is fixing to give back. There were most likely responses not meant for the public eye.

      What would you have had him done?

      • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

        We know where and how the Russians were hacking us and flooding our internet, from their troll farms. A full-scale viral and DDOS internet attack that shut them down would have been a good start, followed up by a public declaration that Russia had intervened in our electoral process to the American public and the UN.

        • shivaskeeper

          Then I supposed we would have waited for the response from Russia as they hit us with viral and DDoS attacks and whatever else they felt like escalating with. That sounds good as an answer, but it would get us nowhere.

          We know what the public response was since it’s in the public domain. The truth is we don;t have any idea what went on behind the scenes. No idea at all. Because anything that did happen would have been classified and rightly so. So unless this WH leaks it, we won’t know.

          • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

            Frankly, Russia had already attacked us: to do nothing is to invite them to attack us more. Escalation is a bad option, but meek surrender is generally considered worse.

            And not to belabor the obvious, but whatever the Obama administration did covertly, it didn’t work.

          • tomamitai

            Putin needs to suffer a personal cost, hurting “Russia” doesn’t mean shit to him.

          • shivaskeeper

            This is the sort of thing that requires a quiet response. We don’t know what worked or didn’t as we don’t know what was done.

            DJT got elected. If the Russians were able to fiddle around the edges it wouldn’t have changed that in any way. The right did what is always does which is bitch and complain about their candidate and then vote for him anyway. The left did what it always does which is bitch about it’s candidate and then split the vote. The EC failed in it’s most basic responsibility mostly due to being partisan hacks

            That they were trying to hack into the system is important, but the decentralized nature of our system makes any large scale interference along those lines less than effective. It’s not the first time it has been tried and I doubt it’ll be the last time.

            They did much more damage with the straight disinformation campaign they ran.

          • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

            For the record, I don’t actually think that the Russians managed to hack the vote totals, and I agree their disinformation campaign was far more effective. But Obama administration’s failure to stop or meaningfully curb that disinformation campaign was a signal, clanging, massive cockup that will remain with us for years to come. What Obama did, or did not do, to stop it is unclear. That these efforts were insufficient, however, is not.

          • shivaskeeper

            I understand. Perhaps he was betting on the populace not being complsed of abject morons. If so he lost that one.

            Seriously, part of the problem is that government is an institution. Institutions are slow to react to things that evolve as fast as social media has. It’s the nature of the beast.

          • Steve Cole

            As has been asked, what would you do? An active DDOS attack only invites escalation. I am uncertain there is a good answer. Obama called them out, people simply ignored. There isn’t an internet sheriff. If companies/local government not have good security, that is not an Obama issue.

      • Meccalopolis

        After the election. He could have called an emergency session but he was determined not to be seen as meddling in the election

        • shivaskeeper

          That , to me, that was all about the peaceful transition of power more than anything else.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      That is because he ran it past Mitch McTraitor, who told him flatly that if he went public with any of this, he and the rest of the repukes would call him out for partisan politics (as if they didn’t do that already) and for some reason he accepted that as a reason to do nothing more. I still can’t figure out why that worked for the Rs. If I could ask President Obama one question, that would probably be it.

      • tomamitai

        BINGO!

      • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

        That’s another thing: that Obama bowed to a demand like that is outrageous. It was a breathtakingly treacherous act on McConnell’s part and Obama just took it.

        • amrak63

          Barack Chamberlain Obama.

    • Bebecca

      Yes definitely but someone explained it that Obama cared about how it would look. But the point is that liberals and democrats have to stop caring about how things look, the republicans certainly don’t.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    Somewhere out there, there has to be someone named Fantasee Loser.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      You’ve discovered my stripper name! Except I spell it “Looser.”

    • jesterpunk

      Do they work with Batman bin Superman?

      http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24911186

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Worst sex chat line alias ever.

  • anwisok
  • Oblios_Cap
    • Phoenixdoglover

      Needs more snark, less bitterness.

      • ZangoCrudmonger

        I’d day “couldn’t hold their jocks-his hands are too small.” qualifies as a dick joke. As an unofficial Wonkette refer-wheeeee! I’ll allow it.

  • goonemeritus

    Why oh why did this NSA contractor not send the documents to Wonkette as God intended?

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Don’t worry America, the security of our voting machines is in the capable hands of our private sector, who always put security first, unless the project is behind schedule, or if it’s a Tuesday. What could go wrong?

  • capnkrunch

    Wow. It’s almost like electronic voting, especially done with proprietary software run on proprietary hardware provided by private companies with zero transparency, no external oversight/auditing, and the shitty DCMA making it actually illegal for security researchers to reverse engineer the closed systems is a bad idea. If only the experts had warned us beforehand…

    • Vincent Ricola

      “If I can pay my cable bill online, I should be able to vote by text!11! Antiquated voting system!1! It’s rigged against Millennials!!1!” – every Russian bot circa July 2016.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      The switch to electronic ballots, using the 2000 election as an excuse, to create a system that was more prone to tampering than what we had before, is a great example of what Naomi Klein calls “The Shock Doctrine” in action.

    • Rags

      Gives me great confidence in the future of our air traffic control system.

  • eyelashviper

    So the Far Left got a smackdown by their own venue….
    Greenwald must be sulking, big time.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Greenwald isn’t a leftist. He’s been playing footsie with white supremacist types for years now.

      • eyelashviper

        He calls himself one, as do many of his cult.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Remember back when my criticism of the Bush Administration made it seem like I knew what I was talking about? I miss that guy.
    — Glenn Greenwald

    Finally, somebody misses me!
    — W

  • goonemeritus

    You know what sources Glenn didn’t burn……

  • canes_pugnaces

    Glen Greenwald is a worm and signed on with Russia First, oh, about two years ago. (We share the same agent)

  • Michael R

    Paper AND electronic ( so you can tell they both match )
    and a way to verify that your vote has been counted would be nice .
    I’m sure someone is working on a better system ,
    and that republicans are trying to figure out a way around it .

    • eyelashviper

      My county, here in Floriduh (and one of the few dem voting areas), has a paper ballot which is scanned electronically, and the paper ballot saved.
      This is the only solution.

      • Michael R

        That’s what he have in Virginia ,
        but I hated that it just zooped into a machine .
        Where my vote at ?

        • eyelashviper

          They should be able to tell you that the paper ballot is saved.
          Also too, the fact that municipalities, counties, etc. can all decide how people vote in national elections is just absurd. There must be NATIONAL standards for voting procedures.

          • Michael R

            Supreme Court time

      • Parakeetist

        I live in Fla also, and I vote by mail. I don’t trust Diebold.

        • Natalie

          Same here, I vote early as well because I don’t trust the post office either.

      • cmd resistor

        My Florida county has the same. Or, at least I think they keep the paper ballot.

    • jesterpunk

      Basically an electronic version of mail in voting states like Oregon have?

  • goonemeritus

    I will wait patiently for Democracy Now to give Glenn Greenwald 45 minutes of air time to blame Hilary for this.

    • jowgajen

      Something something Russia reset something Libya.

  • Mpeg

    If you’d asked me “What starts with ‘Reality’.. and ends with ‘Winner’?”, no, this would’ve been the last person/ place/ thing I’d have expected to be the answer~

  • PubOption

    Trump has more problems with Reality than we thought.

  • Crystalclear12

    Reality fights back!!

    (Had to say it. I mean opportunities like this can’t be passed up.)

    • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

      Like, truly, the best argument for predestination I’ve ever heard.

  • OddMan

    OT, but really anybody that flips off the Sec of State is always on topic.

    Bird-flipping welcome for US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in New Zealand/i>
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/93382262/birdflipping-welcome-for-us-secretary-of-state-rex-tillerson-in-new-zealand
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cc538b178a8d65a2833a735c45e7caab159a249909fdf0231b57f5e395d11d5b.png

    PS I always did like Kiwi’s.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      We are all Kiwis now.

      • Bobathonic

        Je suis kiwi.

  • Crystalclear12

    Love this!
    Fucks with Trump and the punning opportunities are endless.

  • bookish

    IntelBrief. THe Soufan Group. info@thesoufancenter.org

    A RUPTURE IN THE GULF

    Bottom Line Up Front:

    • On June 5, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, Egypt, and Yemen severed diplomatic and travel ties with Qatar, a major escalation of simmering tensions.

    • At the heart of the matter, the Saudi-led bloc has long objected to Qatar’s support for the Muslim Brotherhood, and its relatively positive relations with Iran.

    • Though U.S. President Donald Trump had hoped his recent trip to Riyadh would lead to a unified Gulf Sunni Arab front against Iran and terror groups such as the Islamic State, such unity now appears unlikely.

    • Faced with regional concerns ranging from terrorism and security to economics and ecological challenges, the already volatile Middle East region can ill afford such a serious split in the Gulf Cooperation Council.

    The already shaky relations between several members of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) have significantly deteriorated, causing the worst tensions in the Gulf in decades. On June 5, Saudi Arabia announced it was severing diplomatic ties with Qatar; in short order, the move was followed by the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Bahrain, Egypt, Yemen, and the Maldives. Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Bahrain ordered all Qatari residents and visitors to leave within two weeks, and banned travel by their citizens to Qatar. On top of this, the Riyadh-led bloc banned all Qatari aircraft from their respective airspaces, a huge move affecting major airlines and airports across the region. The disruption to travel will be significant in the near-term.

    Riyadh also closed its land border crossing with Qatar, through which Qatar gets 40 percent of its food. The news sparked reports of people in Qatar rushing to stockpile food and water; the closure would not have to last long to have noticeable impacts, economic and otherwise. A report by the BBC noted that Iranian state media remarked that Tehran could initiate food imports to Qatar within hours if needed, a sign of how interconnected the countries remain despite the push by Riyadh—and now Washington—to create a homogenous Sunni bloc against Iran. Qatar and Iran maintain relatively decent relations since they share control over a massive natural gas reserve known as the North Field.

    Fellow GCC members Oman and Kuwait did not join in severing ties with Qatar; Oman has long played a mediating role in the region, and has good relations with Iran in particular. The complete rupture in relations between the powerful Arab Gulf countries was met with outrage in Tehran, which sees this as only the latest in a U.S-Saudi campaign to isolate Iran. Hamid Aboutalebi, deputy chief of staff to Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani, said the uproar was merely “the preliminary result of the sword dance,” a reference to President Trump’s visit to Riyadh where he participated in a traditional Saudi sword dance and also gave a speech aimed straight at Tehran’s leaders.

    The intent of President Trump’s visit to Riyadh—his first foreign trip since taking office—was to signal in very open terms that Washington would back Riyadh and its allies in their opposition to Iran. Achieving the goal of a Sunni Gulf Arab front united against Iran—as well as against groups such as the Islamic State and al-Qaeda—seems increasingly unlikely, as the leading countries in that front are now fighting each other diplomatically, economically, and in a barrage of media less than two weeks after President Trump’s visit. This latest rift, which is far more serious than a 2014 episode which saw several countries withdraw their ambassadors from Qatar and call for Qatar to close Western think tanks such as the Brookings Institution and RAND Corporation, escalated from simmering tensions to crisis two weeks ago over reports of Qatar’s emir criticizing Saudi Arabia that appeared on Qatar state media. Qatar stated the reports were fabricated and were planted as part of a cybercrime against Doha. The alleged hack was also accompanied by a well-coordinated campaign in the Arab world alleging that Qatar was pro-Israel, while another campaign was pushed in the West that Qatar funds terrorism. Qatar has asked for U.S. help in investigating the reported hack, but the damage has already been done.

    U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis both stated the rupture in relations would not negatively impact the fight against the Islamic State. The U.S. air campaign in Syria and Iraq is based out of the Al Adeid Air Base in Qatar, while the U.S. Fifth Fleet is based in neighboring Bahrain. Though these operations will not be affected by the infighting, the overall atmosphere in the region has devolved to the point as to ensure that no unified movement against terrorism and violent radicalization—which both Riyadh and Doha have been accused (and accused each other) of tolerating or supporting—will find traction.

    • not_vh

      paragon of all virtue is SA.

    • Phoenixdoglover

      “Fellow GCC members Oman and Kuwait did not join in severing ties with Qatar; Oman has long played a mediating role in the region, and has good relations with Iran in particular. ”

      Yay! Finally got a mention for our little island of peace at 58 E. Longitude. Oman’s position is to try to be friends with everybody in the region, excluding Israel, about which, they remain silent.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      In other words, the quagmire continues apace. Good to know.

      • weejee

        Moar swamps to drain = more jobs.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      So Trump said you guys need to unite against terrorists and they said okay how about we all gang up against that asshole we all hate?

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Sounds like Lord Dampnut made everything worse. What a surprise. I’m sure that young Jared will smooth things over.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Oh and that big Saudi arms deal Trump touted? Turns out that’s a bunch of bull too – there are no contracts, just a “wishlist”.
      https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/872071993004314624

    • calliecallie

      Wonder if all this infighting will disrupt the supply of oil and hence increase the price. Putin would be pleased with that. Just saying.

  • WeaselPoo

    As Putin has said, there is Zil evidence of hacking, and all this Russian to judgment is unseemly and Volga.

  • Kevin Morin

    Free Reality!

  • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel
    • weejee

      Circadian rhythms must be followed.

      • As long as Republicans hide out under dirt for 14 years, I’m all for it!

    • jesterpunk

      Well I guess that proves republicans will survive the nuclear apocalypse.

    • Rags

      Actually, it turns out the flour beetles are far better at surviving a nuclear holocaust – sadly, they are also less photogenic.

  • WotsAllThisThen

    our democracy was eated by a gru

  • weejee

    But Greenwald obviously is not too with it spy-wise. Yellow dots, you schmuck. It’s called steganography.

    • Vincent Ricola

      This. I’m not sure how I feel about this whole story and I’m really having a hard time believing that Glenn – the pretentious protector of Edward Snowden and godfather of big leakers leaking – Greenwald didn’t do any of the simple and basic and obvious things to protect his source. I’m almost ready to call shenanigans.

      • bookish

        I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I love it when anyone sticks it to Trump and his “false news” Russia narrative. More highmindedly, we Americans deserve to know what our adversaries are doing to our elections. On the other hand, 25 year old naifs freelancing is usually a bad idea. Who knows what wrench she threw into the works or who she compromised? Just because I hate Drumf, and am happy to see the Russian interference exposed, doesn’t make what she did entirely right, or even entirely wrong. I’m conflicted about it. And she seems more a bumbler than a heroine. She’s going to get to eat a big bite of shit sandwich for this. There are real issues of loyalty to country here and in similar cases.

      • Meccalopolis

        Unless he wanted to burn her. Can’t have her stumbling across the crown jewels

    • acknowledging Russia’s malicious acts around the world makes it harder for anti-American leftists to sell the idea of American retrenchment from the world.

      Dang Leftists going around the world helping people instead of passing out Bibles and empty prayer!

      Now they want to “retrench” from Trump’s “engagement”, ie grabbing America’s pussy.

      YOU BETCHA. 👍

  • Mpeg

    How much should I bet on Reality Winner to take the Belmont Stakes this weekend?

  • msanthropesmr

    Who the fuck thought up the names for this novel. “Reality Winner”. I mean jeez, why not hit us over the head with symbolism like Orr in Catch 22 or Freeman in Half Life.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      The James Bond Franchise would like to have a word…

    • Bobathonic

      Let’s look to the Christian bible for inspiration:
      The god is named “God.
      The savior is named, essentially, “Joe Savior”.

      What more can you expect?

      • WotsAllThisThen

        Hiro Protaginist if you’re a Japanese cyberpunk.

    • MynameisBlarney

      John Everyman.

      • Bemused Australian

        Del Capslock

    • Bemused Australian

      He has flies in his eyes.

    • Bitter Scribe

      I thought “Reality Winner” was Trump’s Secret Service code name.

    • Antonin Dvorak

      In one of his movies Kirk Cameron plays a character named Christian White.

      • arglebargle

        Hmmmm… I see him as more of a Nitwit McAsswipe, but it’s his movie I suppose.

      • msanthropesmr

        Huh. I though that character was called Giant Douche

      • BigBoppa ~ Résistent

        I thought it was Banana Handler.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Or “Offred” in The Handmaid’s Tale.

    • tomamitai

      Orr! DOH!!!!!!!!!!!! I never got that!

    • cheetojeebus

      Helllooo, Buck Turgidson, Major T.J. “King” Kong, President Merkin Muffley, Lt Lothar Zogg, Colonel Bat Guano…..

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        burpelson air force base – that made me giggle.

    • Historicat

      It strains credibility – like having the building at the center of a shady deal be 666 Fifth Ave. I mean, come on!

  • rosenbomb

    Russia might have removed people from the registration database? Republicans love preventing people from voting! It’s a match made in hell.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Only people with the wrong skin tone. The Russians may not have gotten the memo

      • rosenbomb

        Or maybe they did, considering our current predicament (even though we had 3 million votes on our side….)

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Bemused Australian

      I am a fan of your Senator Warren. Can she be President please?

      • Covfefe

        Not if Volodya has anything to say about it.

    • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

      I have the whole set – Obama, Bernie, Hillary and Trump. I am also purchasing Warren.

    • BigBoppa ~ Résistent

      I would like very much to have one of these to display along side my Mitch McConnell inaction figure.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c8865be4d8f7b266beb073bf7a217b7edf8d7d562ec63e27d7b004793389de80.png

      • The Wanderer

        “Inaction figure.” You win an internet.

      • MrTusks

        Zero points of articulation!

  • not_vh

    so what i’m gathering from all this is, unless actually being caught red-handed personally launching russian nukes, nothing is gonna change state-side. ok.

    • Just press the red button, Donnie.

      I did. But it doesn’t do anything.

      (Smiling at each other, proud of Little Donnie)

  • YoBunnyBunny

    So, our voting systems can be hacked.

    GOP takeaway: This is why we need VOTER ID!!!!

    • Vincent Ricola

      “… and leakers are dangerous and that is the REAL story!”

      • TJ Barke

        To paraphrase Garry Kasparov; the house is on fire and the republicans want to know called the fire department.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      GOP secondary takeaway: Wait, you mean we can just delete people?

    • bookish

      I’m just surprised it didn’t happen sooner.

  • Bitter Scribe

    Trump may be the most uniquely unqualified buffoon ever to occupy the Oval Office, but this isn’t even (yet) the biggest treasonous presidential scandal in history IMO. Ronald Reagan and his minions got away with fucking around with Iran to, among other things, delay the release of the embassy hostages until Inauguration Day.

    • Steve Cole

      Mega Pluses.

    • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

      If Raygun and his merry band of idiots had gone to jail, like they should have, the world would be a much better place.

    • Bemused Australian

      Yeah, but Reagan was popular at the time. Trump, not so much.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      I’ve never understood how that wasn’t a bigger deal. I’m guessing it was a combination of “no 24-hour news cycle yet” + “popular, if spectacularly stupid president” + “usual collection of Dems spending all their time in circular firing squads.”

    • Bemused Australian

      Dementing Puppet Reagan subjected to questions about Iran-Contra by English people while he plays with Fisher Pryce toys.

      https://youtu.be/yovzZkf6OFQ

  • FZsdaughter

    So does this mean Hills won, like we all knew she did?

    • Parakeetist

      Yes.

    • proudgrampa

      I am SO sick of winning!

    • Alan

      Duh.

  • jesuswasablack

    OT: “Trump to speak at religious conference during Comey testimony”
    How convenient now FAUX can cover Trumps “speech” instead of the guy who’s gonna tell us all Trump committed Treason!
    http://www.blogsmonroe.com/christianpolitics/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/lock-him-up-2.jpg

  • Shibusa
  • Crystalclear12
    • Bobathonic

      It’s like simultaneous testimony.

    • jesterpunk

      Didnt Kellyanne Conjob just say we shouldnt read what Twitler tweets?

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        Yeah, but then Twitler said that the media was trying to stop him from “telling it like it is” on Social Media.

        • jesterpunk

          So should we take his tweets literally or seriously or just ignore them?

          • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

            Both. Neither. I don’t know.

          • Crystalclear12

            None of the above. His tweets should be taken with whiskey.

          • jesterpunk
          • guppy06

            No, because those barrels are empty. There’s no way barrels full of liquid could be stacked that high (on wooden pallets, no less) without the bottom row or two being crushed.

            /pedant

          • Bobathonic

            Usually, I’ve seen them on their sides for aging, maybe stacked three high. I assume on their sides for ease of handling.

          • guppy06

            If nothing else I’m betting those are solid frames between them, made of not-pine. I don’t think I’ve seen a cheap-ass pine pallet with more than half a ton on them, and I could see a barrel that size, full, weigh about a quarter ton each.

          • jesterpunk

            Damn you and your science and logic.

          • Msgr_MΩment

            Thank you for destroying my hopes and dreams.

          • guppy06

            If I’ve brought just one person down to my level, then my day’s work is complete!

          • arundel

            Reminds me of a Chris Rock joke from a few years ago:
            “Oil is down to $40 a barrel now. You know how cheap that is? You can’t even buy a barrel for forty bucks!”

          • Crystalclear12

            Maybe?
            Depends on how long Comey testifies.

          • Bemused Australian

            It’ll have to do.

          • Msgr_MΩment

            It’s not Canadian, is it?

          • jesterpunk

            It might be from Kentucky.

    • Bemused Australian

      If true will be awesome!

    • Rick Hill

      Gee. Why won’t any lawyers defend him? Maybe this one will
      https://thebyronicmandotcom2.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/lionel_hutz1.jpg

    • jesuswasablack
      • Bemused Australian

        Too trim. Needz moar taco-bowl-bulge.

    • jesterpunk
    • cheetojeebus
    • Vincent Ricola

      Between this and that stupid WWF CNN “must see teevee” countdown clock, my cringe face is well on it’s way to becoming permanent. I miss adult behavior.

    • The Wanderer

      Busy day Thursday: Comey’s testifying (Preach, Brother! PREACH!), Trump will be smacking his tiny cock repeatedly against his phone keyboard, and the UK will be having its general election.
      And I’ll be at work, so I won’t be able to drink my way through the day until at least dinner time.

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      Oh no no no no no no no. He isn’t that stupid, is he?

      • Crystalclear12

        Yes, he is!

      • Meccalopolis

        It’s a cry for help

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Democrats made good use of Trump’s tweets the last time Comey testified. Should be good.

  • jesuswasablack
  • canes_pugnaces

    I would like to send out a thanks to Reality Winner (and a question to her parents: WTF?) for revealing a very important bit of evidence in the collision evidence chain. I am guessing she assumed that it was being buried. Her life is about to suck for a long time, and I feel badly for her.

    • BigBoppa ~ Résistent

      Her parents hoped she’d go into the real estate business. And their spelling sucked.

    • guppy06

      (and a question to her parents: WTF?)

      60’s. LSD.

      And then she rebels against her parents and ends up working for J. Edgar. Thanksgivings are awkward.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    I’m with Malcolm Nance on this one: this girl had no business leaking this. Yes, we absolutely need to know and have a right to know, but the info is dated less than a month ago. There’s no reason to believe it would’ve simply been shelved. At some point you have to say the country has to have some secrets that cannot be revealed by a contractor regardless of her motives. Now, had a year or more gone by with no action taken, or obvious attempts to cover it up by the Dolt regime, then yes, there’s a case to be made for leaking. Whack me if you want but I respect Mr. Nance’s analysis in this and everything else I’ve heard him say.

    • bookish

      Can’t argue that.

  • Strange, what it took for Republicans to become completely comfortable with Gay relationships.
    https://media3.giphy.com/media/8aLGtGjsYS8Y8/giphy.gif#306

  • guppy06

    Last month, Winner allegedly “printed and improperly removed classified intelligence reporting,

    The NSA has printers?

    which contained classified national defense information” before mailing the materials to an unnamed online news outlet a few days later, according to prosecutors. […]

    The NSA has mailboxes?

    Seriously, I’m pretty sure Fort Meade’s ZIP code is redacted.

    • shivaskeeper

      Of course they have printers. The classified ones have big red Classified stickers on them and the unclassified ones have big green Unclassified stickers on them. And woe be to you if you are caught printing shot on the wrong printer.

      The point of her printing it was to get the hard copy off site to mail it. Offsite in this case can be as close as outside the SCIF the data is held in or offsite, offsite.

      • The Wanderer

        But which printer/copiers are you allowed to make images of butts or genitals on?

        • shivaskeeper

          It would depend on whether you wanted it in the public domain or not. If not, stick with the classified copiers.

          • Bobathonic

            I wonder if copying would have eliminated the steganography.

        • Mehmeisterjr

          I think it would depend upon whether the butts or genitals level of classification.

          • Steve Cole

            Hmmm…. TS/SCI NOFORN WRINKLY SACK

          • The Wanderer

            Is that the one with the titty pink sticker?

          • Steve Cole

            If I tell you, I have to read you into the project. Do you really want to know that bad?

          • The Wanderer

            Hmm. Nahh.

          • Steve Cole

            Always the right choice. You are obviously experienced in these matters.

          • The Wanderer

            Thank you.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          AOT,K

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      NSA doesn’t need ZIP codes. They know when someone has mail to send to them.

      • WotsAllThisThen

        Your mailbox can become a microwave, which in turn becomes a camera. Busted!

    • marxalot

      Prints from laser printers are actually really easy to trace, and the technique has been known for years. They’re very nearly as idiosyncratic as typewriters. And honestly: all gov’t agencies run on hardcopy, so…

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    So what you are saying is that this is Obama’s fault, right?

    • TJ Barke

      You butter believe it.

    • jesterpunk

      But how is George Soros involved in this?

  • Alan

    Maybe they should actually arrest the treasonous shits in the White House.

    • Gee, ya think?

      • Alan

        Apparently it’s still not obvious to those with the handcuffs.

  • fawkedifiknow

    Boris Badenov and Natasha Fatale are more clever than I thought.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      And classier than Trump, also, too.

  • HazooToo

    What were they doing with that info when it was leaked? Were they acting on it? Were they investigating who did it specifically? Were they fixing the holes in their security? Does any of it help remove Trump and his administration? These are the things that matter. I don’t give a shit if her name is Tondalayah Delavintamiglia, I just want to know what they’re going to do besides fucking around with leaks.

  • The Wanderer

    So, the two cockwombles who run The Intercept are attempting to degrade their own organization simply because they got hold of some info that doesn’t fit their worldview?

    • C4TWOMAN

      Looks like.

  • efoveks

    I’ll bet she sent it to the Intercept in a naive attempt to shut them up, a kind of “Oh yah? Here you go with a big bag of extra-salted rat dicks! Ya wrong!”

  • DainBramage

    And here I thought the Cold War ended a long time ago. Or is this Cold War II?

    • Bemused Australian

      The cold war never ended. Just ask John McCain.

    • tomamitai

      Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo

      • Bobathonic

        This time, it’s personal.

      • Meccalopolis

        The reckoning

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      I think the Cold War was just in beta testing. This is Cold War 1.4

      • Bemused Australian

        I really hope they’ve ironed out the bug where people who were meant to push the button decided they’d rather not.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Vitally important: Download and install the Cold War 1.4a patch.

        It protects you from the Peehooker worm.

        • Bemused Australian

          Ah, the Kompromat hotfix.

        • guppy06

          Nuclear weapons are OP. I hope they get nerfed next round.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        The Derpening

    • vivian

      This is our very own Cold Civil War.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Save your Confederate money because the Donald will destroy the American dollar.

      • C4TWOMAN

        Very well put.

      • Randy Riddle

        This.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Nah. This is the fighters of the cold war banding together against the rest of us.

  • Shibusa

    O/T but Vox has a good breakdown of what’s happening in Qatar

    • The Wanderer

      And the $110 billion ‘deal’ with the Saudis is turning out to be a heaping pile of bullshit. Good thing that the stuff’s halal.

      • not_vh

        that it is a heaping pile of bullshit has been shown to be not irrealis, i.e., it is. and yet the writer amongst us chose that verb phrase?

  • Anna Rompage

    And to think, our current administration has this information, and still gave the Russian spy houses/diplomatic compounds that were conficsacted by Obama due to election hacking, back to Russia…

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      And let them in the oval office with equipment

      • amrak63

        Why, if I didn’t know better, I might think the President and/or many of his subordinates were Russian agents, or at least useful idiots for Mommie Dearest Russia.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Feature, not bug.

    • Randy Riddle

      And sent a thank-you note for the pee hookers.

  • shivaskeeper

    I feel the need to reiterate this.

    This is an object lesson for any current or potential leaker. If you are caught leaking you will be investigated, arrested, and probably tried. It’s that simple.

    It’s not up to any individual to decide what they will or will not talk about to anyone. It’s the nature of the system for some very good reasons.

    With that being said, anyone who is currently leaking legitimate information knows this when they do it. They know they are risking arrest and jail. They know they are risking being charged with espionage.

    Also, too if you are going to leak something, it better be something that will be used to exonerate you later at your trial.

    • Hollandaise

      Also in my experience:

      There are ways to expose things/make people think something will be exposed if not fixed that aren’t leaking.

      And those people who are actually serious about mitigating leaking may want to look at 1) over-classification as an issue and 2) the role of decades of contracting/sub-contracting/sub-sub-contracting integral functions that leads to this 25 year-olds having TS clearance while being several degrees removed from The Very Serious Agencies.

      • shivaskeeper

        All true. Part of the issue isn’t so much overclassification as misclassification and different systems in different agencies. Supposedly that is on its way to being fixed.

        As for the young having a clearance? I had a full TS, not an interim, by the time I was 19. Granted I worked in the agency that granted me the clearance. So that doesn’t address the contractor/subcontractor issue, bit just being young is no more or less an indicator that you will screw it up than anything else.

        • Hollandaise

          No that’s 100% fair, and prior service etc. can come into play as well – I do think it’s an issue though when you’re looking at young people fairly removed from the agency/agency’s compliance/agency’s messaging/mission/etc. The farther down the supply chain anything gets the more concerning it is to me – so to see someone so young + working for a contractor it activates a big confirmation bias reflex of mine. (Source: 10+ years working in Supply Chain for a decent size fed contractor.)

          • shivaskeeper

            I agree with you about being a step or two removed from whatever agency they might be working for. That to me is more of a problem than being young.

            Of course having to hire the contractors in the first place has been an issue for a long while since they are “cheaper” than hiring actual GS employees. On in the case of the military, it’s a way around end strength limitations. For every contract job that does away with a support job, another Combat Arms job can be added.

  • Shibusa
    • The Wanderer

      With the result that Trump’s getting teeth marks on his suit’s trouser cuffs.

    • bookish

      How I miss Bamz being our prez. He was such a dignified man, and now we have the orange abomination.

  • BadKitty904

    So, what does the Republican Congress intend to do about that?

    • ThirdAmendmentMan

      Screw over black people and Mexicans?

      • Msgr_MΩment

        You gotta dance with them what’s brung ya.

    • elviouslyqueer

      Repeal Obamacare yet again?

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Lock her up?

    • Blame TEH GAY for pissing off God…AGAIN.

    • elviouslyqueer

      But her emails?

    • RumAddled

      Suck Koch?

    • JustDon’tSayCovfefe

      Tax “reform”?

    • timpundit

      Investigate Benghazi.

    • Randy Riddle

      Resolution against the homosexual menace?

    • Duke

      Muslim ban

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      Defund Planned Parenthood?

    • Huntington

      Privatize air-traffic control!

    • amrak63

      All of the above.

  • Relativicus

    I’m sure there are many possibilities for why Greenwald, that paragon of journalistic integrity, keeps trying to brush off this matter, but I can only think of one: Greenwald is tits-deep in it.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      At the very least, he’s BFFs with the people involved and had to know

  • Msgr_MΩment

    So they found out that the document was, indeed, Reality-based.

    UPDATE: And here we have the definitive proof that Reality has a liberal bias.

    Try the muffins.

  • Anna Rompage

    Note to self; if I’m ever going to leak classified docs, don’t do it through the Intercept, they’re fucking amateurs over there…

    National security attorney Jesselyn Radack, who has defended a number of whistleblowers in the past, noted this is the second time Intercept reporter Matthew Cole was “involved in a story where the source ended up prosecuted.”

    • C4TWOMAN

      Having been involved in online collectives helping people out of cults and their “intelligencia” (particularly Scientology), the safest way to leak anything to anyone is anonymously. And that means good computer skillz practices. She should have taken a photo wit a separate camera, or used a flash drive–though that might have only delayed the inevitable. Any electronic device that needs you to log in, she’d have to be careful. Then wait, weeks if you have to, for the trail to get muddled.
      It turns out few people without training have the mental temperament for “intelligence” work. Getting the info is only half of it,,,,the rest is muddling the trail.

  • WotsAllThisThen

    In Trump’s America, Reality doesn’t win.

  • I feel sorry for this young lady and not just for her unfortunate name! Her life is ruined now. OTOH I’m glad someone finally released this info to the public. We have every right to know WTF is going on.

    • Maybe she’ll be able to remake herself after whatever penalty she gets is over.

      If the trump events keep accelerating, she may end up a hero in lots of people’s minds.

    • Popillius

      I read somewhere she could get 10 years – she’s only 25. Chelsea Manning hasn’t served her full sentence.

      Her life is far from ruined and I think her name is awesome. lol

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        manning’s out!

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Rationality requires that it be read skeptically*

    *unless it’s the latest pile of horse shit from Wikileaks, then we should trumpet it to the high heavens, amirite Glenn?

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      Like stories about emails purporting to have code words about child sex rings?

    • natoslug

      Wait, which one is Rationality? I thought it was Reality, in the armoire, with a staple remover.

  • C4TWOMAN


    We imagine, considering their history on
    All Things Russia, that the Intercept journalists who got this leak required their bosses to recuse themselves from the story like a common Jeff Sessions and Devin Nunes.

    I suspect the writers are “true believers”, who can’t see Greenwald’s organization as the sleazy Russian apologist outlet it is.
    They did journalism, naively felt they’d get a pat on the head and the thing got all the way to being or about to be published before Greenwald noticed.

    Now he can’t tell them to stop….bad optics, they’d start asking questions. Best thing to do is to roll with it and spin.

    /tinfoil

  • C4TWOMAN

    And why leak to the Intercept instead of WPo or NYT? If you’re going to leak something this massive you go with an established organisation who knows their shit…..unless you’re an Intercept fan who believes “both sides” and other political woo….

    • guppy06

      Let me trade Occam’s Razor for Reynold’s Hat for a moment…

      Winner is really working for the The Other Guys. Her colleagues/agency/whatever know this, but evidence is inadmissible and/or said colleagues/agency/whatever really don’t want a courtroom to see their investigative techniques (think of cops and Stingray). So they set her up for an open-and-shut case instead.

      And you send it off to the Intercept so you can discredit their ability to protect any future sources, pretty much hamstringing Greenwald’s career.

      • Reynold has a weird shaped head don’t he

        • Huntington

          It’s not the shape of the hat but the efficacy in deflecting the chemtrails.

      • C4TWOMAN

        Hmmm….has merits . But.

        Who takes the Intercept seriously? It is far from biased, and obviously so to savvy people. A naive and/or starry eyed fan will not be deterred.

    • Purity ponies still think the Intercept is a lefty production

      • C4TWOMAN

        I just read an old Prison Planet thread from 2009ish, when a lot of leftys got involved with Alex Jones alleged anti war 911 conspiracy shit. It’s painful to read people trying to understand why speakers known for Holocaust Denial are getting a platform(or in some cases just learning these speakers are Holocaust deniers). Some users are sure it’s cointelpro or being set up. Other users are making the Freeze Peach argument, trying to convince them it’s okay. Like at Infoluz, I’m sure these are moderators trying to control the discussion by having their cake and eating it too: “We can too have racist speakers and not be racists!”

        It’s obvious the lefties had no idea Alex Jones had such a sleazy underbelly and fled when they saw it for what it was….

        • VirginiaLady

          Freeze peach. Damn, now I want daiquiris.

          • spacecat in space

            I always want daiquiris.

  • Stulexington

    I recall a group of furious Democrats coming out of a classified briefing saying things like “if this were any other country, there’d be a do-over election.” I wonder if it was because of this.

  • Mary Theresa

    “everyone knows the first rule of international spy craft is that everybody wears name tags.”

    So…I’m doing this spy thing wrong?

    • Yellerduck

      I have a name tag! Can I be a spy too?

    • WotsAllThisThen

      If name tags are not available, stick to the white and black hats. And make sure your bombs have sparkly fuses.

      https://superradnow.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/spy.jpeg

      • amrak63

        And make sure the bombs are loaded with Dynapotrzebie!

    • tehbaddr

      If you’ve got a shoe phone, I think you’re doing it OK.

  • And it appears The Intercept wasn’t armed with the know-how to protect its source properly, sharing the document it received with the NSA in such a way that investigators were able to press a few buttons and identify the leaker pretty darn fast
    Accidentally on purpose.

  • WideStance

    Something is amiss here. The leaker basically turned herself in. And although she had top secret clearance, her social media “likes” include Russia Today, Wikileaks, and the Taliban. The fact that she leaked to the Intercept and that they published the information, stinks to high heaven. Perhaps it’s designed to dilute Wednesday’s expected ‘bombshell” from former NSA chief Rogers, perhaps worse. Hope I’m wrong.

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      I’m sure the top secret clearance reviewers are totally cool with you liking the Taliban on your social media. WTF? I agree this is beginning to smell like week old canned clams.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        YOU MONSTER!!

    • Emily Hetzler

      To be fair, she might have those “likes” because she’s interested in getting some of her information directly from the social media source, not because she agrees with or actually likes them.

    • Aimee Barfield

      She was a linguist in the US Air Force who spoke Pashto, Farsi and Dari. I don’t think it’d be that unusual that someone with that background would be interested in some of the topics listed above.

  • WotsAllThisThen

    I feel bad for her, but leaking to the Intercept requires the same kind of critical thinking as voting for Trump.

    • tehbaddr

      WaPo would have been the way to go.

      • Me not sure

        She’s twenty five. Newapapers are just an ancient myth to her.

  • chascates

    Just the name ‘Reality Winner’ is suspicious enough.

  • tehbaddr

    Thanks Obama?

  • Greenwald, the luckiest asshole in journalism to day. Utterly underservimg of the scoop that was Snowden.

  • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

    Snowden and Reality Winner, both government contractors. Tell me again how the private sector can do it better and cheaper?
    Maybe actual government employees would have had a greater sense of loyalty and investment in their jobs. And at least they would have known when to leak, how to leak, and to whom.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Actual government employees might indeed have had a greater sense of loyalty and investment in their jobs . . . but will it survive having a narcissistic ignoranus like Drumpf elected to the Presidency?

  • Me not sure
    • andyk304

      It appears to me as if she wasn’t even trying to conceal her tracks, which would render the statement inherent in your photo sorta moot.

  • At this year’s Faux-gressive Crow-eating Festival, Greenwald and Scahill appear to be going for the gold in the 500-meter backpedal.

  • Notreelyhelping

    Her cousin, Surreality Failure, is much better at tradecraft. And more fun at parties.

  • jellysblues

    Can’t wait for Trump tweet calling Winner a “loser”.

    • UnsaltedSinner

      Being a former host of reality TV, he ought to respect a Reality Winner.

  • Blendawendy

    A leaker named Reality Winner. You can’t make this shit up. Is she now the next Celebrity Apprentice?

  • natoslug

    If only she’d had a sense of poise and rationality, she would’ve closed the goddamn door (and not got caught).

  • Jenny

    Ok all the other leakers. Do not do the leaking to the Intercept.

    Best wishes Reality Winner. I hope your attorney really plays up the patriotism of your actions.

    Also fuck our illegitimate president right in his ear.

  • UnsaltedSinner

    Pissing on The Intercept’s own scoop is classic Greenwald. He thinks like a lawyer, not a real journalist. He’s not trying to bring you all the relevant facts, only those facts that support whatever case he’s trying to make. In a courtroom that doesn’t matter, because the opposing side will present the information he leaves out, but when he’s working as a reporter, it’s a disaster.

    • Right on! Furthermore defense attorneys don’t actually have to “prove” their client innocence. They really just need to sow enough doubt for the jury or judge to be unable to form reasonable certainty. (Hint, hint, hint)

      This line of…er dimwit lawyer cosplaying as journalism works perfectly for exploiting the Know-Nothing Know-it-All tendancies of his followers (explaination here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnowNothingKnowItAll), who love wandering in a fog of doubt so that they have an excuse for willfully disregard evidence and instead “trust” the fervid recesses of their own wild imagination.

  • If true, we need to have a mandated hand recount of all the ballots, and for those districts that don’t have physical records, they need the vote thrown out.

    • javadavis

      We needed that anyway, as soon as the exit polls didn’t match the results from the voting machines. If not before.

      • Kip TW

        Well, they didn’t all fail to match up. Just in those states and districts controlled by the GOP, who not only proves that Government is the problem, but that democracy is even worser.

  • garneau_mathieu

    what is wonkette.com and what am I doing here again?
    Seems to be another clinton nuthugging website where writers and commentators are unable to understand that The Intercept was never saying that the accusations towards Russia were false, but that they urged skepticism until actual evidence was presented. Which it wasn’t. You can link to Maddow’s Glenn Beck-like theories, it doesn’t change the fact that the accusations remained utterly unproven.

    The nuance should seem obvious now that this same outlet has actually published documents that do support these accusations, showing that they’re not actually obfuscating the story.

    What sucks here is the author and everyone who think it’s oh-so-unreasonable to wait to actually have proof of a story before treating it as true.

    • amrak63

      OK, Garnushka, you’ll find your deposit from Tsar Vlad in the normal account. Now go back to looking for work in Lower Slobbovia (dating myself with THAT reference).

      • ‘Covfefe is Magic’ Ron

        I’ll say. I’m sure everyone knows that bothy Upper and Lower Slobbovia were annexed by Sylvania in 1952.

      • garneau_mathieu

        100% of you clinton zealots responded by either insulting me or further insinuating ties to Russia for suggesting that one should require evidence before believing a story. Impressive dedication to identity politics.

        • amrak63

          Snoop Pooty Poot offered a bonus for persistence this week, I take it?

        • Biel_ze_Bubba

          Maybe you need to learn the difference between “proof” and “evidence”.
          Don’t quit your day job, is all I’m saying.

          • andyk304

            And the difference between that which causes a trial to be called and that which brings a guilty verdict.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            along with the that which is sufficiently hinky to launch an investigation.

        • merty

          Your comment is just kind of pointless. “Everyone wait til there’s evidence!” Ok, now there’s evidence, and special prosecutors. So?
          Russia meddled with the elections in Germany and France too, so that seems to support what happened here. It’s not just a one-off thing. And during each and every congressional hearing the intel experts comment on how vulnerable our voting system is, which was proven in these NSA docs. The experts have been warning against this since 2000ish? So I guess just wait for more evidence? Just wait and see is a great security strategy.

          • garneau_mathieu

            Who said that “just wait and see” should constitute our security strategy? What should be done to protect our elections is a different topic. There’s a difference between saying that Russia attempted to influence our electoral process and jumping to the conclusion that they were successful in doing that, let alone that the current president has colluded with russian intelligence to get elected. At least one of which is implied here when the author suggests that the legitimacy of the president is put in question. A little too politically self-serving. I think Trump’s a dick. But he was elected. And when someone manages to prove that he did reach his position fraudulently I’ll be all on board with the impeachment. But we’re pretty fucking far from that yet, whether you like to admit it or not.

            as for Mr.Clown feeling smart for bringing up the difference between evidence and proof, let’s just say that if your defense here is to suggest that ANY evidence, however inconclusive, should be enough to believe that kind of story, then we’ll just to agree that you’re a disingenuous idiot who’s more interested in playing semantics than getting the point. When I and others say “evidence” we obviously mean relevant, meaningful evidence.

          • But we’re pretty fucking far from that yet, whether you like to admit it or not
            Are we? Huh.
            Really, what more proof do you really need? We have his financial ties, his own son stated in 2014 came from Russia. We have all his Putin Fapping during the election. We have all the sekret meetings between his campaign staff and said Russians before he even took office. We have promises to drop Sanctions and help a Putin out, and lo and behold, we are working on dropping sanctions, and helping a Putin out. We had the president of the United States call Putin right before dropping bombs on Putin’s Ally, so said ally could move his expensive toys and let us put holes in a field. Because grr, mean gas.
            And now we have Winner’s little leak (srsly, kids, if you are gonna leak, go with an outfit that does not just hand over whistle blowers) detailing how indeed said Russia tried its hand, not at merely influencing a candidate, but directly altering the voting count.
            I guess it is all just a string of absolute coincidence.

          • garneau_mathieu

            yeah I guess if we wrap together a bunch of inconclusive evidence, some people will start to believe it’s enough for them. Congrats. Some of us don’t have such low standards that we get satisfied with one’s political opponents providing a bunch of individually weak evidence. That kinda remind me of The Simpson’s Lionel Hutz: “Well, Your Honor. We’ve plenty of hearsay and conjecture. Those are kinds of evidence.”

          • Kip TW

            Didn’t you read above? The inconclusive evidence conclusively evidences that the DNC got all cheaty on some people from outside the party who thought they should be in charge of all the Democrats and get to use all their stuff! It’s all so clear and evident that people can just up and assert it.

          • merty

            Maybe don’t get all serious about evidence and conjecture when the headline of the article you’re criticizing references Triump the insult comic dog.

          • Gregory Brown

            You haven’t even sized up your “audience” correctly. There are many former Bernie voters here also too, along with heapin’ helpin’s O’ snark.

          • merty

            Who said any of the shit you’re saying I said? Maybe it was the dude who wrote the article? That’s not me. How the hell would I have proof that Russia stole the election? I never claimed that. There is proof that they engaged in disinformation spreading false news, and they hacked the DNC. All this was said during the congressional hearings by intel experts. Now with the NSA docs, it proved that they were attempting to compromise voting machines, voter rolls, etc. Wait and see seems to be your argument, sorry I don’t understand your convoluted reasoning. You seem to be stuck on a tiny point that I’m not sure any one was even making.

            Personally I think it’s going to be tricky to link the prez with the colluders, because while it may be Stupid Watergate, I think some of them attempted to cover their tracks. But stil, Jared tried to set up the back channel to Russia to avoid surveillance. Flynn was working with the Russians and talked to them about sanctions being lifted. Stone was in touch with Guccifer, linked to the Russian hackers. Trump fired comey then had a meeting with Russian officials the next day, with no US media present, saying he was under a lot of pressure but that won’t be a problem now. Trump decided to allow Russia to take back their properties in MD and NJ that were under sanctions before.

            But impeachment doesn’t even require that Trump committed a crime. The Russia connection is just one of many problems of his. One of many things that could make him so unpopular with republicans that they’ll eventually maybe try to impeach him, after they use him for cover so they can do all their shady shit without anyone noticing.

        • Holly

          Hey there little snowflake of course we insulted you. You jumped in bed with a bunch of Clinton zealots. Let me ask you a simple question K? Who insulted who first? Now please GTFO.

        • You came in here insulting everyone, and then was surprised you got insulted.
          PEARL CLUTCH!!!!!

        • YayConspiracy

          There is a whole fucking trail of bread crumbs right up to the steps of the Kremlin. There is evidence enough for anybody to see and understand; anybody willing to take their heads out of the place where the sun usually doesn’t shine, that is.

    • lol your heroes purposefully gave a whistleblower over to Trump because they found something bad about Russia.
      Enjoy!

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      You forgot to call us “Neo-McCarthyites” for suggesting that there’s anything wrong with letting Russia manage our electoral process.

      • ‘Covfefe is Magic’ Ron

        Amateur mistake. Today’s trolls just don’t put in the effort any more.

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          Pffft… it’s all this hippety-hop music they get on their video phones. Makes ’em lazy.

    • ‘Covfefe is Magic’ Ron

      While your head’s up your ass, you should probably check for polyps.
      Bye, Felicia.

    • tehbaddr

      Hark, something stirs under the bridge!

    • Manders

      We wonder what you are doing here again, too.

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      A private citizen’s emails on the other hand should be stolen and then posted far and wide. All righty, then.

    • Lurkylu

      mmm…join us, the nuts are very huggable and they smell like Febreze ™

    • Husband Of Mrs God

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/16273f02d0d3bc6a3261b9da11aba84057d1251fdf1f0bdae5e451ec5b4a3631.jpg
      You seem to think you are here to discourage a community that adds fun, focus, and momentum to the forward end of American politics. You are here because of Wonkette’s growing reputation. I am proud of the reactions below.

    • phoenix00
    • Lily412

      I didn’t read your non-comment. No one cares.

  • ‘Covfefe is Magic’ Ron

    The GRU.
    The fucking GRU.
    Now is it an act of war?

    • amrak63

      Yeah, after this “election”, I’m up for Cold War 2.0.

  • Zyxomma

    Jeremy Scahill’s Dirty Wars was a good documentary.

  • Machnethylsteinerbincolabird

    I do. I deem her actions heroic.

  • Manders

    As the folks at Mock, Paper Scissors noted, it’s not great that so many people who have gone to Glenn have ended up in prison or Russia (which is its own prison, unfortch). But I guess that’s what happens when you’re a wealthy finance dude who decides he wants to journalism now. Glenn, these whistleblowers are young and trust you! Journalist more better!

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    “Why try to monkey around with actual vote totals when you can just delete people from the voter rolls?”

    Funny how the means and the ends of the Kremlin and the GOP keep overlapping. Pure coincidence, I’m sure

    • merty

      Both oligarchies and kleptocracies

  • I hope everyone isn’t too indignant about the Russians meddling in the political affairs of other nations, as the US is the undisputed king of doing that, and it would be a giant hypocritical case of the pot calling the kettle black.

    • akryan

      yeah, the pearl clutching we’ve been doing as a nation over this is pretty hypocritical. we’ve fucked around in the politics of other nations since forever and we’ve done it in a people die kind of way. still, it’s pretty shitty to have the shoe on the other foot and we should expect the to feel the same outrage.

      • Totally agree.

      • Gregory Brown

        Especially when we look at what it got us in the White House.

  • Internet Hitler

    Reality Winner, will you be my new girlfriend?

  • YetAnotherRebecca

    Was I the only one that got embarrassingly far into an article about this this morning before realizing Reality Winner was a person’s name and not some incredibly confusing typo?

    • Seriously! I thought it was some bizarre redacted codename or something.

    • Roadstergal

      No…

    • Gregory Brown

      I personally have collected hundreds of weird names during my years on the desk at several newspapers, from sources such as obits and cop and court reports, names such as Olive Brown Butts, Daisy Storm Shook, Joe Blow, Victory Pearl Harbor Island, etc., so I immediately accepted that there are parents fucked up enough to name their kid Reality Winner.

      • YetAnotherRebecca

        The favorite name that I’ve run across at my work was Buzz Wonderling, which I think is pretty damn awesome. I’m guessing his parents were fans of old pulp sci-fi novels, which is something I certainly approve of. Husband and I are planning to try for a baby later this year and the first two boys names I pitched were Harlan (Ellison) and Isaac (Asimov)

        • Gregory Brown

          Either one is good. When I was young I cleaned out our public library’s science fiction section, Ellison, Asimov, lots of Bradbury, etc.

  • TOOL FIGHT!

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/wikileaks-declares-war-on-the-intercept

    The kicker? Not to long ago, Greenwald was whispering sweet nothings in ASSange’s ear:

    https://theintercept.com/2017/05/19/sweden-withdraws-arrest-warrant-for-julian-assange-but-he-still-faces-serious-legal-jeopardy/

    I bet The intercept is so glad they cuddled up with Jullian now, eh

  • John Eby

    The best part of all this is while you go after Greenwald you keep repeating the DNC talking point that there was nothing beyond some recipes revealed by Wikileaks. Then you want to cry that those recipes cost Hillary the election. Really? Ever heard the phrase can’t have it both ways?

    Actually what was revealed is that the DNC is a dishonest corrupt organization run by dishonest corrupt people. Debbie Wasserman Schultz forced to resign. Donna Brazille fired from CNN. Both proven liars. Just to name two non recipe related outcomes.

    • So weird how Glen’s sources keep ending up turned in by stupidity, isn’t it?

      • Turkis

        I’d say, so weird how sources that say the opposite of what Glenn wants to say, keep ending up turned in by stupidity.

    • Moi

      AAACKCHUALLY because idiots (not pointing fingers, but if I were they’d be pointed up) were told “These emails prove that the DNC is a dishonest corrupt organization run by dishonest corrupt people!!!” and they, being idiots, didn’t read the entirety of the dump that Wikileaks, having an agenda, put out, they are always incapable of pointing to the specific emails that prove the primary was rigged. But it doesn’t matter because the damage is done and idiocy is contagious. Those idiots tell other idiots, and they tell other idiots, and more idiots.

      If there was proof in those emails, Wikileaks would have published just those. They did not. They overloaded you with hay and told you “We promise there’s a needle in there.” Rather than try to find it, you just went, “Well, I hate these people anyway because they’re denying me my pure and perfect Bernie, so that seems plausible!”

      I mean, if I’m wrong, go ahead and link me to the email that proves rigging.

      • ahughes798

        I do not think DWS was good for the Democratic Party. I’m glad they got rid of her. Enough with the establishment Democrats. So what does the DNC do? Appoint another establishment Democrat to run the DNC. They let Keith Ellison play second fiddle to give lip service to the Democratic wing of the Democratic party. They learned nothing from the last election.

        Will the next Dem. presidential candidate realise that they need those rubes in the fly over states to win a damn election? Remember, it was Hillary’s decision not to campaign in MN and WI and PA. I suspect the reason was sheer hubris.

        I voted for Bernie in the primaries, and for Hillary in the general, so spare me the bitter bernie bro crap.

        • justjoseph

          The election results were bullshit, so there is really NOTHING to be learned from them, other than the fact that Russia now has the balls to fuck with our elections just like they have been doing in Europe for decades. Putin wanted Trump in to make us appear weaker and stupid to the rest of the world. Score 1 for Putin.

      • Damn, girl/guy.

        👏

      • Eisenhower303

        They overloaded you with hay and told you “We promise there’s a needle in there.”

        — that is a great metaphor

      • Evan Cary

        http://observer.com/2016/07/wikileaks-proves-primary-was-rigged-dnc-undermined-democracy/

        There’s tons of links to individual emails in that article.

      • David Westwater

        Your right its just smoke like the russia stuff

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      “Actually what was revealed is that the DNC is a dishonest corrupt organization run by dishonest corrupt people.”
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f22b516e8b28152cd617c90083d31c2ca463d1681b594bdbda50023eef12e649.png

      Preferably a quote directly from the emails (the ones that weren’t faked).

    • Kip TW

      Wow! Imagine that—the evidence reveals that whatever you believed already was right all along! I’ll bet you’re the first person ever to look at a huge pile of wide-ranging evidence and find exactly what you already believed.

    • ahughes798

      Can’t really argue with your last paragraph. It’s true, sadly.

  • Paperless Tiger

    Could the Russian virus swing 13,000 votes?

  • aktlib101

    test

    • phoenix00

      Loud and clear

  • WiscoJoe

    So Snowden leaks a damaging story about the US and Greenwald helps deliver him to Russia. Winner leaks a damaging story about Russia and the Intercept is so sloppy in protecting the source that she’s immediately arrested by the US. Coincidence? (LOL, nah, not really suggesting a conspiracy, just pointing out how ridged ideology often leads to incompetence and general fuckery.)

    • Turkis

      At worst, Greenwald outed Winner and made it look like the Intercept screwed up. At best, the Intercept screwed up.

      Either way, Greenwald is still a hack.

  • Jeff Mc Donald

    Would this work in reverse, to, you know, get rid of Putin…with votes?

  • Napoleanofthetrump

    Seriously, where the fuck does the Intercept get it’s funding?

  • David Chaillou

    I am always suspicious when a media that took a clear stance on an issue suddenly comes up with a story that either runs totally counter to its previous stance or opens up a completely new direction.

    As is the case here.

    What better way to muddy the waters or to cast doubt on the original story, than to come up with an exciting development which gets everyone hooked, and then turns out to be false ?

    • mary5920

      That’s a Karl Rove specialty. However, there was clearly ratfracking going on by the Russians and I remember hearing about possible hacks into state election systems during the election season. Who knows what’s up with this particular iteration? It’s bizarre enough to be real.

      • merty

        I heard that too about hacking the election/voting systems but I don’t remember where.

  • D-Reactor

    Donald Trump is President.
    Reality Winner is a leaker arrested for exposing Russian hacking.

    We are definitely living in the Matrix. Morpheous better get Neo and Trinity to unplug us from this shitty version of it.

  • Heyzeus Ahchay

    Why do photos of Pootin’ make me wonder what Dolph Lundgren’s retarded, animal-torturing younger brother would look like — if Dolph had one?

  • Turkis

    I have to wonder. What would happen if the FBI, NSA or some other agency did find conclusive evidence that the Russians did change votes?

    Trump barely won Michigan (.2%), Wisconsin (.8%) and Florida (1.2%). All three of these states are among 29 states that legally require their electoral voters to vote along with the popular vote. Though it seems that Pennsylvania’s (1.1%) electoral voters all voted along with who won the majority as well.

    Wisconsin uses a mix of optical-scan voting machines and hand counted ballots; Michigan uses all optical-scan voting machines; most counties in Pennsylvania uses electronic voting machines; and Florida has a mix of electronic and optical-scan voting machines. Both electronic and optical-scan can be “hacked”. The older versions that don’t connect to the internet, still require a connection to a computer in order to update the software/ballot. The newer models can be directly connected to the internet in order to update them.

    Either case, all it takes is a little virus to get in, and change 1 out of say 100,000 votes cast for one candidate into another. That might seem small, but it’s harder to track.

    Of course, all this is pure speculation. But I wonder what happens if there turns up enough evidence to prove this? Would there be a move to remove Trump/Pence and replace them with the rightful winners, Clinton/Kaine? Probably not, but always interesting to think about it.

    • Roadstergal

      The electors cast their votes. The popular vote doesn’t matter in the US. They’re legitimately elected based solely on the College.

      • Turkis

        You didn’t read, did you?

        29 states require by law, for electors to cast their vote based on who wins the majority vote in the state. But, most electors in the other 21 states also seem to cast their ballot in favor of who wins the majority vote.

        So the popular vote DOES matter when the Electoral College bases their votes on who wins the popular vote.

    • Dennis

      When was the last election Democrats lost that they didn’t claim cheating was the reason for their loss?

      Reagan in 1984 when he won every state but Minnesota?
      .

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        A virus that changes “www . breitbart . com” to http://www.wonkette.com when entered in your address bar? That’s the weirdest Russian virus yet.

        • Dennis

          What?

          I don’t post at Breitbart.

      • Turkis

        Really? Because Trump and folks like you were going up and down whining about how the election was going to be rigged.

        And guess what, we’re not claiming! There’s evidence that Russia, who was vocally supporting Trump, was actively trying to at the very least, hack into the voting machines we use!

        It’s funny how when you folks on the far right do or say something based on nothing but your own opinion, it’s fine even if it’s accusing someone of a crime. But when those of us not on the right do or say something based on actual information, we’re “whining” or making stuff up.

        Hypocrites, it’s always funny reading your comments.

        • Dennis

          Obama told us back in November there was no evidence of Russian hacking.

          Did he lie to us?

          • Turkis

            Wow, you don’t really think much, do you?

            At the time he said that, chances are there was no evidence of Russian hacking. That doesn’t mean that they didn’t find evidence after Obama made that statement.

            Think before you post again Dennis.

      • David Westwater

        The republicans hired acompany to purge the voting list of black people in floridia

  • Edith Prickly
  • davidhollenshead

    Perhaps the election should be invalidated with a new federal election in three months. Since many Red States will sit it out, they wouldn’t get to pick the POTUS.
    Which would probably result in civil war, which appears to be coming anyway since the GOP can’t win in 2020, due to changing demographics.

  • Charles Wolf

    Greenwald has scooped on so many big stories it would be overly facile to argue that Wonkette (which I like a lot) is jealous of his success. Get a grip Evan.

    Re: Winner, sometimes shit happens. Get over it and maybe try to help her out in a positive way.

    • CO

      Big = 1

      • Charles Wolf

        If you say so.
        How many have you or Wonkette notched?

        • CO

          1 that is his big scoop. Unless you’re talking about his sock puppets? Or lying about his sock puppets?

          • Charles Wolf

            Just as I thought
            You have Zero.
            Goodnight and good riddance.

          • CO

            I have one big story for him that landed in his lap. You can’t name another. Thanks.

          • Evan Cary

            How about his scoop of the abusive conditions of Manning’s detention? That got picked up by all the mainstream media, lead to an international protest and eventually got Manning’s conditions improved. Also, he was supporting WikiLeaks way before anyone had heard of them or realized they would be a player. He’s had plenty of stuff over the years that was way ahead of the curve. This is just some bitchy blog that writes snark, offering as much value to Americans as Kid Kardashian. Greenwald does actual work that matters.

          • CO

            So still 1. Greenwald does nothing but be an ass.

          • Evan Cary

            He broke the biggest story in years with the NSA scoop and won a Pulitzer for it. He’s been on the forefront reporting civil liberties violations since the Bush administration, performing an incredibly valuable service to all Americans. This website publishes fucking celebrity gossip. The End

          • CO

            You keep repeating it but it’s still 1.

          • David Westwater

            Everyone knows the intercept you guys? Not so much to say the least

          • Evan Cary

            And 1 is still greater than your 0. /end

          • CO

            Since I don’t work in journalism I’d say that’s pretty likely that I don’t. You’d think for sock puppets like you defending him he’d have a bigger resume. Pretty sad for how long he’s worked in the media to only have that one scoop.

          • Disingenuous whining and de-contextualized nagging on Twitter counts as “work” right?

          • Evan Cary

            His “disingenuous whining” won a Pulitzer prize, remind me how many of those this website has won again?

          • Yeah Wonkette? Why can’t you live up to the lofty standards of Pulitzer-dom set by the likes of fellow prize winner Peggy Noonan? Better get started getting a source arrested, Rebecca, Evan and Dok if you want achieve such dizzying heights of journalmalism! And don’t skimp on the sensationalized sanctimony neither!

  • David Westwater

    Glen greenwald is briliant. The washington post is fianaced by the cia and always suspect. You guys should try breaking important news to but you never will. Those who can do. Those who cant are you!

    • kfreed

      Libertarian Greenwald’s days as a “journalist” are numbered: “US News: “Connect the White Nationalist Dots – From Trump to the alt-right to Russia, white nationalism threatens U.S. national security”
      https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2017-03-14/democrats-must-connect-donald-trump-white-nationalism-and-russia

      There is nothing brilliant about Glenn Greenwald. Here’s his blog from back in the day fist-pumping George W. Bush (read it and weep): http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2005/11/reality-of-latin-american-reaction-to.html

      He’s a skeevy alt-right/Libertarian lawyer who spent most of his career defending either banks or a murderous white supremacist church known as World Church of the Creator- while wiretapping the survivors of his clients’ shooting spree. Moreover, he’s a constant defender of the schemes of the brothers Koch (corporations are people, too, you know /s). who discovered that there was money to made in rafucking the gullible left after his attempts to line them up behind Ron “White Power” Paul in the 2008 and 2012 elections.failed. Here he is over at Salon in 2007 promoting Ron Paul : http://www.salon.com/2007/11/06/paul_2/ and again around 2012 doing the same: http://www.salon.com/2011/12/31/progressives_and_the_ron_paul_fallacies/

      Let’s also discuss the fact that it was Greenwald who convinced Silicon Valley tech geeks the Andrew “Weev” Auernheimer was a just a poor falsely imprisoned for hacking into telecom servers – until it fially came out that Weev is in fact a neo-Nazi (he may be found over neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer spewing forth his love of Dear Leader Trump.)

      As for Greenwald, Assange and Snowden, all of whom are Ron Paul boot licks, playing “progressives” on TV, I imagine their role in the Trump/Russia scandal will eventually become apparent.

      By the by, Greenwald’s posturing as a “Bernie Bro” will also implicate Sanders and Jill Stein. Mark. my. words. You see, assholes, “the enemy of my enemy” will eventually get you deep doo-doo when you start praising Breitbart “from the left” (Bwahahahaha): http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/12/sad-2

      There is a reason Greenwald has been trying to cover for Trump and Putin. Guess what it is :)

      The jig is up. Tell Greenwald “Hello” from me :)

      • David Westwater

        I hate the neocons why you thought this article would change my mind i dont know.

  • PogmoThoin13

    Because everyone knows “intelligence reports” are always 100% truthful? Anyone remember what got us into the Iraq War? Ask Powell.

  • kfreed

    Greenwald, having his cake and eating it, too. I’m amazed that you dinks have still not figured this out. What will it take????????????????????????????????????

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