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Imma let you finish, but do you even know what Glass-Steagall IS?

Let’s all enjoy some video of Elizabeth Warren firmly but politely taking apart Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin before the Senate Banking Committee Thursday! Mnuchin got a nice dressing-down by Warren over Donald Trump’s assertion that he supports “looking into” (Trumpese for “completely ignoring”) breaking up the big banks, and his claim that he’d support a “21st-century Glass-Steagall” act — a position Mnuchin had taken at his confirmation hearing, too. As it happens, Elizabeth Warren has long pushed for exactly that: the 21st Century Glass-Steagall Act.

But it seems Mnuchin would like a “Glass-Steagall” bill that doesn’t actually separate risky, speculative investment banking from actual banking banking. The whole point of Glass-Steagall is separating the risky stuff from traditional banking, so taxpayers won’t be on the hook through the FDIC if an investment bank goes belly-up. Mnuchin seems a bit dim on the concept of supporting a law that doesn’t actually do what the law is supposed to do, but then again, he works for a president who thinks “health insurance” that doesn’t actually cover medical expenses is a neat idea.

Here is your Elizabeth Warren, being a BOSS:

Some excerpts:

WARREN: The president and this administration have said repeatedly that they support a 21st Century Glass-Steagall. It was in the Republican party platform, Donald Trump said it specifically a few weeks before the election. You said, quote, ‘We need a 21st Century Glass-Steagall’ at your confirmation hearing. And now you’ve just said exactly the opposite. You know, in the past few months, you and the president have had a number of meetings with big bank CEOs and lobbyists. Is that the reason for the reversal on Glass-Steagall?

MNUCHIN: No, not at all, there actually wasn’t a reversal, so —

WARREN: Wasn’t a reversal?

Mnuchin explained that what he really meant was while there are “aspects of” Glass-Steagall Team Trump likes, they never said anything about a “full separation of banks and investment banks,” at which point Warren said, “Let me stop you right there, Mr. Secretary.” Mnuchin seemed a bit astonished that a mere Senator would interrupt him like that.

MNUCHIN: You’re not letting me finish…

WARREN: Yeah, I’m not, because I really have to understand what you’ve just said. There are aspects of Glass-Steagall that you support, but not breaking up the banks, and separating commercial banking from investment banking? What do you think Glass-Steagall was if that’s not right at the heart of it?

Ah, and then things really went through the White Rabbit’s looking glass hole. You see, even though there’s that bill called the “21st Century Glass-Steagall Act,” Mnuchin had no idea Warren was talking about that. America’s top financial dude had never heard of Warren’s silly little bill. Never mind that it’s sort of like supporting the “G.I. Bill” as long as it doesn’t spend any money sending veterans to college or giving them home loans. (Jesus, we shouldn’t give them ideas, huh?)

You see, if they’d supported separating investment banking from regular banking, they would have said they supported “Glass-Steagall,” not a “21st-Century Glass Steagall,” because in the 21st Century, words only mean what Donald Trump thinks they mean.

Things went on into further weirdness, and Warren invokes the Spirit of Orwell to describe the absurdity of what Mnuchin’s saying:

WARREN: But I still haven’t heard the answer to my question. What do you think Glass-Steagall was, if it wasn’t separating commercial banking from investment banking — uh, from ordinary banking?

MNUCHIN: Again, the fundamental part of Glass-Steagall was, as you’ve just outlined, in the separation of investment banking from commercial banking, because people were concerned about conflict —

WARREN: How do you separate without breaking up the big banks that have integrated these two things?

MNUCHIN: Uh, again, the integration of commercial banking and investment banks has gone on for a long of period time. That is not what caused the problems during the financial crisis, and if we did go back to a full separation, you would have an enormous impact on liquidity and lending to small and medium-sized businesses —

WARREN: So, let me get this straight, let me get this straight: You’re saying that you are in favor of Glass-Steagall, which breaks apart the two arms of banking — regular banking and commercial banking — except you don’t want to break apart the two parts of banking? This is like something straight out of George Orwell. You’re saying simultaneously you’re in favor of breaking up the banks, that’s what Glass-Steagall is

This Elizabeth Warren is quite the bully, insisting that “Glass-Steagall” is somehow related to separating risky investments from plain vanilla banking. Why is she so mean? Warren’s time with Mnuchin ends on this note; which as Warren says, is simply bizarre:

WARREN: Tell me what it means. Tell me what 21st Century Glass-Steagall means if it doesn’t mean breaking apart those two functions. It’s an easy question. Or an impossible question.

MNUCHIN: It’s actually a complicated question.

WARREN: I’ll bet.

MNUCHIN: There’s many aspects of it, okay? The simple answer, which we don’t support, is breaking up banks from investment banks. We think that would be a huge mistake. But again, I’m more than happy to listen to your ideas on it, you obviously have strong views and I’d be happy to follow up and listen to you.

WARREN: This is just bizarre. The idea that you can say we are in favor of Glass-Steagall but not breaking up the banks.

MNUCHIN: We never said we were in favor of Glass-Steagall, we said we were in favor of a 21st Century Glass-Steagall. It couldn’t be clearer.

WARREN: We are in — we are in favor of a bill that is called breaking up the banks, only don’t break up the banks. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is — this is crazy.

Damn, that lady is dense. Doesn’t she understand that Draining the Swamp means filling your cabinet with lobbyists and people from Goldman-Sachs? Or that “health insurance for everybody, at a lower cost” means no health insurance for tens of millions, plus really crappy health insurance for tens of millions more, and if you want good insurance, you’ll pay through the nose, unless you have a pre-existing condition, in which case you can’t afford it at all? She probably doesn’t even see the beauty of how massive tax cuts for the rich is the same as “bringing back manufacturing jobs.”

Somebody ought to get her a dictionary. Hope she doesn’t look at the entry for “Pocahontas,” though, haw haw haw.

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  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot
  • Villago Delenda Est

    The way you solve this dilemma is actually punching Munchkin in the nose, with sharp, pointy, votes.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      I was surprised to see that Trump managed to appoint a cabinet member with a face as punchable as any other Republican.

  • WotsAllThisThen

    I propose Republicans apply the same logic to repealing Obamacare.

  • schmannity

    Senator Warren, I am in favor of Glass Steagall, a delicious sandwich. Could you make me one?

    • Indivisible Snark Tank

      I think he thinks “Steagall” is some fancy European beer, and he’s in favor of a Glass of it.

      • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

        I fed some steagalls at the beach once!

        • Why would you do that? It’s like feeding pigeons or rats…

          • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

            My first time at the beach so I didn’t know any better. Found out very quickly that steagalls will cut a bitch for food too.

      • marxalot

        That’s “Steigl.”
        And it’s not fancy, exactly.

      • Querolous

        Or that German magazine – “Der Steagall.”

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Also, too, I’m so glad Hillary didn’t win the Electoral College, otherwise we’d all be in Goldman-Sachs slave labor camps by now.

    H/T to Berniebots and Steiniacs.

    • kindness

      Or FEMA camps. Of course with Trump there is no funding for FEMA so we all have to find out own damn cardboard and tarps to live under.

  • schmannity

    Mnuchin: I have very strong feelings both ways.

    • Painter of Goats

      And you’re not listening to what I’m not saying.

      • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

        What?

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Villago Delenda Est

      Ted Lieu is a national treasure.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Damn skippy!

    • There is a story that Louis Armstrong once had an audience with the Pope, and was so nervous he had a “jazz cigarette” or two beforehand. Thus when the Pope asked him if he and his wife had children, Louis replied “No, but we’s havin’ a real fine time tryin’, your Holiness”. The translator apparently skipped that bit.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Here is your Elizabeth Warren, being a BOSS

    That look of fear at the 3 second mark on Steven Mnuchin’s face is priceless. GO ELIZABETH!

    PS: How funny is it that spell check wants to turn Mnuchin into munition?

    • I didn’t go with minion?

      • Nockular cavity

        Or Munchkin?

        • Or moran?

          • DrBigHead

            Or sniveling little asshole?

            Oops, I think I missed the point of this.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          My preferred usage.

          Apologies to actual Munchkins, everywhere!

    • calliecallie

      Munchkin.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      The spell check in my head automatically changes it to munchkin.

  • schmannity

    What does he not understand about breaking up banks? “Glass in in the Act’s name.

  • jesterpunk

    Never mind that it’s sort of like
    supporting the “G.I. Bill” as long as it doesn’t spend any money sending
    veterans to college or giving them home loans. (Jesus, we shouldn’t
    give them ideas, huh?)

    Too late they already have that plan.

    http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/gi-bill-benefits-new-fees-future-enlistees-house-lawmakers

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    But we never said before that we supported a full separation of banks and investment banks

    Asshole, that is the heart of Glass-Steagall! If you do not support that, you do not support restoring any century’s Glass-Steagall, so STFU FFS!

  • jesterpunk
    • BadKitty904

      Well, he IS a meathead…

    • aureolaborealis

      I see a tiny yellow blue whale dry-humping a messy pile of rancid, greasy unwholesomeness.

  • BadKitty904

    OT: Continuing the Republican Party’s efforts to sell off America’s global preeminence and national security, the GOP-controlled Federal Communications Commission (FCC) took an initial step toward rolling back regulations adopted two years ago that were designed to protect “net neutrality.” The agency’s shift is drawing strong objections from advocacy organizations, who fear it will impede access to valuable – even vital – online content.

    FCC Vote Kicks Off a Battle Over Regulation of the Internet
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_FCC_NET_NEUTRALITY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
    A federal agency voted to kick off the repeal of “net neutrality” rules designed to keep broadband providers like AT&T, Verizon and Comcast from interfering with the internet.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    The little lady is hysterical. She should go back to the Senate dining room and clean up after the guys.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    You see, if they’d supported separating investment banking from regular banking, they would have said they supported “Glass-Steagall,” not a “21st-Century Glass Steagall”

    I’m sorry–some of us thing that when you say you support a 21st century idea that has a well-defined meaning, you actually mean you want it to exist during the fucking century you are referencing. Doublespeak much, asshole?

    • I find it hilarious that i would be a better banker than these people and i can barely do basic arithmetic

      • proudgrampa

        Heck. I can’t even balance a checkbook, but I could be a better banker, too. Also.

  • exinkwretch

    Obviously a debate over semantics. Is the Glass-Steagall half full, or half empty?

  • LarryHoudini

    He makes sense if adding “21st Century” to anything indicates its opposite, like “Donald Trump is a ’21st Century Lincoln.'”

  • Ralph Gauer

    Smart is just so damn 21st Century Hot.

  • Johnatx

    I love Elizabeth Warren.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    That is not what caused the problems during the financial crisis, and if we did go back to a full separation, you would have an enormous impact on liquidity and lending to small and medium-sized businesses

    1. Technically, killing Glass-Steagall was not the only cause of the 2008 economic implosion: however, it sure as fuck contributed to it.

    2. Funny how small and medium sized businesses have had trouble getting loans over the past few years even without Glass-Steagall, isn’t it?

    3. Oh, for fuck’s sake.

    • jesterpunk

      They blame poor people for tricking the banks into giving them loans for houses. Somehow the banks where the victims.

      • TJ Barke

        Well yeah, poorness is a sign of moral failure, thus all bad things are because of poors.

        • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

          And if you’re poor and blah/brown…well, that’s just a double moral failure.

          • jesterpunk

            They should have just chosen to be born rich, its easy even Trump managed that.

        • Opalescent Riddles

          And if you’re a rich white dude on your 3rd wife, with whom you slept while still married to your 2nd, with whom you slept while still married to your 1st, you’re triply moral.

          • TJ Barke

            Well yeah, that’s proven because all those women want to sleep with you!

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Are these the same small businesses that would be throttled or destroyed by the AHCA?

      • redblack

        they would be, if obamacare and $15/hr local minimum wage hadn’t already put the poor selfless bastards out of business.

    • An Outhouse for the Resistance

      Small businesses never got loans before 1999.

    • Elvis Causticfellow

      He tells you, he’s just sick about those poor small and medium sized businesses.

  • An Outhouse for the Resistance
  • vivian

    Also the GOP is now Pro-Choice because everyone will choose to make abortion illegal, and they are Feminists because once we get the little darlins back in the kitchen where they belong they can be as Feminine as they want.

    Words have meanings. One of the most pernicious aspects of the nihilists of the GOP is that they evacuate language. They redefine terms to suit their own agenda and in the process undermine the very foundations of our ability to speak meaningfully with one another. I hate them for doing this.

    • TJ Barke

      Orwell is spinning in his grave.

      • vivian

        at about 375K RPM

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Beautifully put, and may I just add that if I hear one more person say “It’s concerning,” when they mean “I am concerned,” I may just go rogue on someone’s ass? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    • Elvis Causticfellow

      Trump advocates keeping abortion 21st-Century legal.

    • Riley Whodat Venable

      I think they “evacuate” more than language.

    • This is why there is no free speech for Fascism. Fascist speech actually DESTROYS speech because it’s totally nihilistic. It is to speech what termites are to wood.

  • Anna Rompage

    Steve Munchin, this is the guy who believes in the magical thinking of dynamic scoring…

    Dynamic scoring you ask, what’s that?

    It’s essentially a way of justify massive tax cuts for the top 5% on the whacked premise that somehow cutting revenue to the treasury will create more money in the treasury, when is fact all it is going to do is drive up massive amounts of US debt, and leave the average citizen on the hook for trillions of dollars of new incurred debt…

    See, they don;t actually have to score any of their proposed financial bills using sound methods, but instead, just get to make up numbers and insert them wherever they want…

    I.e We’re gonna cut taxes by 25% across the board, and treasury revenue from taxes is going to increase by 34%! See! It’s just Magic!

    • yyyaz

      Trowel all the pancake makeup you want on the Trickle Down pig and it is still just bacon for the rich.

    • mailman27

      Well, it is quite Dynamic.

  • Chadwells

    Why do all these ignorant fucks say “….ok?” at the end of every moronic thing that comes out of their shit holes?!?! Like we are supposed to just believe their bullshit?!? NO, MOTHER FUCKER….IT IS NOT OK SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

    Deep breaths, Chadwells….deep breaths….

    • An Outhouse for the Resistance

      “Believe me!”

      • Bobathonic

        That’s the motto of a sociopathic liar.

    • Elvis Causticfellow

      The there’s Trump’s “…Folks, I have to tell ya.” Donald Trump, burdened with being the sorry bringer of bad news.

      • redblack

        “and this is so true” is another of his golden oldies that indicates that what he said right before it was a complete fucking fabrication.

  • BearGHAZI

    Mnuchin was referring to Glassed- Eagle

    • vivian

      Glassed Eagle. It’s like pheasant-under-glass but a little tougher.

    • PubOption

      An eagle went into a bar in Glasgow…

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    This is like something straight out of George Orwell

    That’s a pretty good summary of this entire fucking presidency, actually.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      We’ve always been at war with Truth.

  • geoffalnutt

    I’m sorry, but he has wrap-around lips. Makes him look like a 50s Buick. He’s a liar, too…and a bad one.

  • exinkwretch

    Meanwhile, on a plane over the Atlantic, someone is trying to explain to the president* that Glass-Steagall is NOT the Cayman Island where the money he is NOT making through his TOTALLY BLIND trust is offshored to avoid taxes.

  • Indivisible Snark Tank
  • DainBramage

    By “21st Century Glass-Steagall,” Mnuchin obviously means the something Orwellian like the AHCA, which takes health care away and gives money to the rich. So it would probably do something like turn the IRS into a collection agency for the big banks, so they could suck the money from your pockets directly.

  • Mpeg

    Looking for the upfist button on this entire story… No, wait, the “Lurve” button?… How about a genuflecting-emoji “We are not worthy” stickie?

    • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

      They did add the “pat them patronizingly on the ass and give them a dollar” button.
      Edit: In a good way. I’m a monthly giver myself.

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    I’m an ignorant red-neck and could tell that this guy was lying the second he opened his mouth. You’d think he’d be better at it what with all his practicing.

    • calliecallie

      Lovely story. My uncle was some kind of officer in his construction union in upstate NY. One day, years ago, before the recession, an NYC banker came to pitch them a new fund to put their pension money in. My uncle didn’t care for the way the guy talked down to them, so they didn’t switch their funds. Turned out the guy worked for Madoff. Dodged a bullet there.

      • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

        Wow. Many people owe your uncle their pensions.

        • calliecallie

          I was glad he lived to see that day. He was rather proud of himself.

  • yyyaz

    Just trying to set my logic filters to parse what passes for “thinking” and “speaking” now that the repignacunts have gone full 1984 makes my head hurt, my guts rumble and my face frowny.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    You know what? I’d be more than happy come see you and follow up and talk about this

    “Oh shit, she’s got me–what to do? I know–I’ll tell her I’ll follow up with her later, once the cameras are gone!!!”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1773a322914fb904f96a2e4ad501640c1349d18455b0592667713324bd62c437.jpg

  • OT, but any Wonker wanna lend e $15K so i can buy the stretched Corvette limo from the movie Mystery Men?

    https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/6116441019.html

    • Ghenghis McCann

      Just wait until one of Lori’s replacements tells you how she now has a Range Rover thanks to earning 1234$ per week on Google. All you have to do is click on the link.

      • Crystalclear12

        Wouldn’t trust ’em. They never told us what they did with Lori.

      • Bobathonic

        Didn’t Lori have a McLaren? Range Rover my hinder.

        • Ghenghis McCann

          I sit corrected. She had the McLaren. It was her replacements had the Range Rover.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Sorry, but I’m saving up for the Herkimer Battle Jitney.

      https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wQEw4k4T42Y/maxresdefault.jpg

      • redarmyzombie

        Okay, but I am NOT being the Spleen on this one!

      • I’m in the Herkimer Battle Jitney Facebook group, that’s how I found this Craigslist link :P

        Also, the Jitney is currently privately owned and they’ve made some really ugly mods to it, sadly :(

        • MynameisBlarney

          THOSE BASTARDS!!!

        • Bobathonic

          Is NOTHING sacred?!?!?!?!

        • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

          Just as well. You’re better off going with the Heller/Herkimer Battle Jitney MK II. Hybrid engine.

    • baconzgood

      DISCO IS NOT DEAD! Disco is life.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Mnuchin did his best to patronize her, but Elizabeth is not to be denied. Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight, TrumpPenceZees!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/12970edf2155791f1e6d63e76b0e9fbf7aa84278da33b0580d7024af384953ed.jpg

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    I could only watch a few seconds of that when the obvious contempt of Mnuchin for Senator Warren made me ragey and stabby and shouty. How do you get to a place where you think the way these entitled snots do? I mean, I have a ton of contempt for a lot of senators of the opposite party, but they EARN it by trying their hardest to hurt everyone who’s not rich. This fuckin’ guy is contemptuous of a woman who has spent at least the past eight years trying to help ordinary people. Struggling to wrap my head around that . . . .

    • TJ Barke

      Because these scum suckers believe it’s their right to exploit other people.

    • jesterpunk

      Supply side Jesus and the Prosperity Gospel.

    • Ralph Gauer

      I believe Merriam Webster just indexed this video under “mansplaining”.

    • Rick Hill

      The same guys who explained, when United(?) gave their pilots and attendants a raise, that Wall St was unhappy that they were shifting capital from them to labor

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Remember when Senator Barbara Boxer got snippy with a Brigadier General who would not address her as “Senator”? And then the right jumped all over her for “disrespecting the uniform”?

      • H0mer0

        She outranked him. Them righties are stoopid.

    • aureolaborealis

      It’s easy: remind yourself that she’s just some dumb broad trying to throw a spanner into the gears of your master plan.

  • vivian

    I’ll loan you the money at 18% compounded bi-weekly. I’m a 21st Century Good Samaritan.

    edit: oops. Meant as a reply to the Rt. Hon. below.

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    I never said I supported having an area in space where there was an effective treaty between warring parties so they could have a place to duscuss grievances, but I do fully support the Neutral Zone.

  • Rick Hill

    *muttering under his beath*
    “Jeez. They said i was easy, just give it a name that sounds good and you were in the clear.”

  • Elvis Causticfellow

    But what is Naomi Watts doing sitting behind him?

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      Had to scroll up and look again for that. Well spotted!

    • Mavenmaven

      Someone is gonna get hired at Fox News!!!

    • Certified Green Bastard

      Isn’t that Mnuchin’s “actress” lady friend? Background on C-Span still counts as a TV appearance!

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    Well, to be fair, this is a group that thinks Cheeto Benito is a great president because he’s achieved absolutely nothing in 120 days.

    • BadKitty904

      I.e., dumb as a sack o’ bricks.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Incompetent and corrupt, the whole lot of them.

  • William

    MNUCHIN: We never said we were in favor of Glass-Steagall, we said we were in favor of a 21st Century Glass-Steagall. It couldn’t be clearer. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b24c9df4b9c05c93d83942765f757ab2f60f4b8ec607605a03404c9e9b74aabc.jpg

  • Koch Blockula

    This made my day. Thanks, Dok! I will go into this weekend with renewed hope for the future.

    We need at least a daily clip of Liz and other Dems kicking ass on some mendacious hoofwanking bunglecunt to get through this reality distortion field for the next 18 months.

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    Glass-Steagall? I thought you meant Johnathan Livingston Seagull. . . Either way, I have no idea what I’m talking about.

  • Mavenmaven

    What’s wrong with her? Why doesn’t she let the Rich continue to lie to the American people like God wants them to?

  • elviouslyqueer

    Shorter Mnuchin: Allow me to mansplain this to you…

    Shorter Warren: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/672719dbdada474414fc5c249ad6cbc321e29fa62824e0286800285ebdf91d66.gif

  • ServantToTheStars

    Is that “Math Is Hard Barbie” behind him?

    • Ω cynmac will never surrender

      Pull his string, baby.

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    Okay, last one, i promise.

    “I never said I supported a federal list of all classified mutants to be collated and maintained by the government for the purposes of identifying an relocating mutants to federally mandated camps, but I do fully support Senator Kelly’s Mutant Registration Act.”

    *bows*

  • notanncoulter

    nevertheless, he persisted…
    in fabricating a series of words.

  • President in Exile Firefly

    There goes Goofy Elizabeth Warren again, what with her logic and facts.

  • natoslug

    What a weaselly fucking fuck. Fits in this administration perfectly, though, so winning?

  • Mnuchin, like so many Regressives, thought the bill was for a revised edition of Jonathan Livingston Steagull. Who knew things could be so complicated?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6a73a2c542c359a1f307f3c11e124e0f8049e023e6a1a570c0bf641cdea564ea.jpg

  • DrBigHead

    I don’t think I have ever enjoyed listening to a Senator question a witness as much as I do when Warren is on a roll. Of the current crop, Al Franken is a close second. I would do whatever necessary to NOT get on Elizabeth Warren’s bad side.

    • Riley Whodat Venable

      Senator Frankin occasionally goes for the laugh to embarrass the witness. With Senator Warren it is all “Boot to the Head.”

      • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

        Warren/Franken 2020!

  • Ghenghis McCann

    I’m now going to do a search and replace on the whole article and change every instance of banking to wanking, just to see if Mnuchin makes more sense.

    • yyyaz

      Those are two words that need to separated by a parsec or two.

      • Ghenghis McCann

        Mnuchin and sense, I assume. Not Capitalism and self abuse.

        • yyyaz

          Mnuchin and wanking. There I said it. Now get that outta your brain.

          • Ghenghis McCann

            My doctor says with treatment I might recover. He prescribes regular doses of alcohol.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    It isn’t easy to talk out of both sides of your mouth and say nothing at all.

  • jesterpunk
  • William
    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      Crazy eyes! Them’s crazy eyes right there!

    • Certified Green Bastard

      Sleepy Ben looks like he was just startled out of a nap.

      • William

        Napping? How do we tell?

        • Certified Green Bastard

          Hell, you’re right. He could be using toothpicks to prop his eyelids open like that.

      • jesterpunk

        He just realized where he left his luggage.

      • Al Swearengen

        Somebody went up behind his rockin’ chair and dropped a dictionary.

      • Ω cynmac will never surrender

        Stuck in an elevator.

    • TJ Barke

      That’s Callista’s “snake about to swallow something bigger than its head” face.

      • William

        Careful. That’s the new ambassador (cue the church music) to the Vatican.

        • H0mer0

          Bach?

      • DainBramage

        Newt would like that characterization.

      • Certified Green Bastard

        I can’t decide who is scarier: her or Rick “Voldemort-on-X” Scott.

        • TJ Barke

          I definitely find her scarier.

    • Riley Whodat Venable

      Are you sure that isn’t a Reptilian tell?

    • H0mer0

      I thought he thought it made him look SMRT

  • fawkedifiknow

    And this guy is supposed to be one of the smart, competent ones.

    • TJ Barke

      Just cuz you’re smart doesn’t mean you don’t have garbage for a soul.

  • DainBramage

    Mnuchin went home and joined up with the He Man Woman Haters Club from Robyn’s earlier article.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      They let him join. Sad Losers…

  • Chadwells

    I think these hearings should become a contact sport. I’m sure Warren could beat the fuck out of that weasel mother fucker…and I’d love to watch it happen!!

    With votes…

    • UnsaltedSinner

      Then Dwayne Johnson could be the Lion of the Senate.

  • IdiokraticDrumpfenJugend
  • Proud Liberal

    Mnuchin is tryin’ the ole’ gaslighting thingy again.

    • Chadwells

      Smug Hollywood money douche a long way from his Sachs days, getting his ass handed to him. He’s a dick and totally out of his element!

      • NellCote71

        And he doesn’t even know his ass is being handed about. I love how he offers to come to her office and mansplain to the little lady how the big banks work.

  • mardam422

    I’ve long been a proponent of a 21st century 10 commandments. Specially the ones about sexytime n ‘at.

  • hendenburg2

    So here’s a really OT yet even more hilarious story:

    Comey once tried to avoid Trump by hiding among some curtains!

    http://theslot.jezebel.com/james-comey-once-tried-to-avoid-donald-trump-by-hiding-1795358056

    • jesterpunk

      He should have hid among the bushes, it worked for Spicey.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      There seems to be a pattern here involving hiding. Bushes, curtains, anywhere Trump isn’t…

    • Doug Langley

      And it was curtains for him!

      I’ll just show myself out . . .

    • UnsaltedSinner
      • JustDon’tSaySurety

        Now, that was funny, right there!

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      He could have hidden in a Quaker church instead — Trump would never venture there or be let in.

    • leemoder

      It’s that whole “the T-Rump can’t see you if you stand still” riff from Jurassic Park.

    • Certified Green Bastard
  • Serolf Divad

    So apparently you can add the phrase “21st century” to anything and basically negate its meaning. “I believe in a 21st Century Chocolate cake that is made with vanilla cake smothered in vanilla icing.”

    • Al Swearengen

      But it would be the most beautiful not-chocolate, chocolate cake you’re never seen. In the 21st century.

    • Doug Langley

      So we’re making 21st Century comments in this blog?

      • JustDon’tSaySurety

        Because they’re 21st century not allowed?

    • UnsaltedSinner

      Maybe he just wants two people named Glass and Steagall to suggest a new law that bans any regulation of banks?

    • cheetojeebus

      Now you’ve got me confused. I thought that was the one with coconut and pineapple? Or is that the Twenty First Century Cake?

      • HogeyeGrex

        That’s the 21st Century Harvey Wallbanger.

        • cheetojeebus

          Duh!

    • HogeyeGrex
      • Riley Whodat Venable

        A good cover, but King Crimson did it better. Fripp is a genius.

        • Bobathonic

          LOLz, you beat me to it.

        • JustDon’tSaySurety

          April Wine did a pretty good cover live.
          God I’m old.

          • Riley Whodat Venable

            Me too. But I’ve been a lot of places and heard a lot of bands live. I just wish I remembered more of them.

        • HogeyeGrex

          You try finding the original on youtube. Live. Chipmunk. Cut down. Fucked up “remaster.” Sure. This was vaguely amusing so I went with it.

          Also, too: huge Fripp fan.

    • Cat Cafe for the Investigation

      I myself believe in a 21st Century Chocolate Cake that has zero calories–in fact magically causes you to lose ten pounds.

  • jodyleek

    Oh, I get it! Kind of like how tRump is a 21st Century Smart Guy.

  • Shoto

    Dipshit Mnuchin is woefully over-matched. I’m not sure if he understands that he’s punching way out of his weight class, but he’s certainly showing his twitchy tells. His condescending tone near the end of the clip didn’t help his cause, either. “It’s complicated, etc.” Translation: You’re just a girl, so you wouldn’t understand.” Pffft.

    • Chadwells

      Hollywood money douche a long way away from his Sachs days. Totally out of his element. Christ, I know a dozen assholes just like him in this fucking town and they’re all idiots.

      • Shoto
        • Chadwells

          Thankfully, I’ve never worked on any of his pictures. God I hate that dude.

          • Pisto75666

            I honestly didn’t know until I just Googled but he’s a FILM PRODUCER? A film producer is Treasury Secretary?

            I have no words…..words fail me.

          • Chadwells

            Oh yeah…I’ve been raging about it since day 1!!!

            Warren ain’t buying his Hollywood BS and it’s glorious!

          • Pisto75666

            I watched the clip from earlier and he wouldn’t even LOOK at her when she was rightfully destroying him. Where’s a casting couch when you need one?

  • timpundit

    The “alternative” Glass-Steagall, apparently.

    • Bobathonic

      If it were Star Trek, it would be the Glass-Steagall with a goatee.

  • Riley Whodat Venable

    This is why we need Senator Warren right where she is. Not in the White House. She needs to be where she can interrogate these idiots.

    • SisterArtemis

      Yep, I’ve been saying this for a couple of years or more. And not just to interrogate, but to help shape and analyze legislation (the shaping part is harder in our All GOP All The Time congress).

    • kareemachan

      Can we clone her?

  • Serolf Divad

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  • Michael R

    Unfortunately when conservatives watch that they will say he
    totally destroyed that loon , their brains are just wired backwards .

  • Adam Field

    Why the crap wasn’t Elizabeth Warren the one running for president last year? I feel like that would have gone way the crap better. Hopefully next time.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      On the one hand, I would abso-fuckin’-lutely support an Elizabeth Warren run for President. On the other hand, I would wince every time that tremulous, schoolmarmy voice of hers would waft over a crowd and think, “man, she’s losin’ voters.” I love her positions, but there’s a certain charm deficit there, and we just can’t take any chances.

    • Sophia

      I think she can do more where she’s at.

    • AndyC316

      I don’t think any Democrat would have won last year — not w/ all of Russia throwing it’s weight behind ol’ Donny

      • chicken thief

        I respect your opinion but disagree. Before there was a GOP nominee Trump, Hillary had the highest negatives evuh.

        • Cat Cafe for the Investigation

          Also thanks to Russia and its troll army. They knew who the really formidable candidate was. If there’d been any chance of it being Eliz at that point, she’d have suddenly had the highest negatives evuh.

        • People keep saying this. It simply isn’t true.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      She’s treated just as badly as Hillz is when she’s running. Same words, also too, in many cases. There really wouldn’t have been much difference in the tone or the aggressiveness of the coverage.

    • Cat Cafe for the Investigation

      Oh, they’d have taken her apart infinitely worse than Hillary. She doesn’t have foreign experience! She’s emotional! She lies! Pocahontas! You forget that everything they attacked Hillary with was completely fictional, including the endless attempts to paint her as a “Republican.” Eliz actually WAS a Republican. If Eliz had been the one running, you’d have seen endless posts about “I’m not misogynist, it’s just THIS woman, I’d totally vote for someone like Hillary Clinton, why can’t it be Hillary Clinton.” Hillary had phenomenal credentials, experience, poise, grace, and brilliance, as well as years of experience at literally every level of government and a lifetime of public service. You couldn’t have had a better candidate–sure she was a bit wonky, but so was Obama.

  • IdRatherBeDancing

    The basis for even a 21st century Glass-Steagall would be separating investment banks from commercial banking. Prolly, the 21st Century part would idenfify a more expansive set of circumstance in which commercial banks could engage in securities activities under Section 24(7) of the Banking Act — (puffs out chest cause citing law)

    • Weird Fishes

      Good citing of the law! Perhaps they would open up the regs surrounding the use of the fed discount window? That’s the reason why GS rebanked just as the Great Recession was gathering steam.

  • Riley Whodat Venable

    Dok,
    OT, but is deleted comments still a thing?

    • zerosumgame0005

      Troll Central has been so depressed and despondent lately and has only been sending the most boring and repetitious bots recently

      • OppressedMass

        IKR? It’s like once Russia stopped ponying up to subvert the electoral process in the US, all those trolls shut up. Simultaneously. Somehow.
        All we have left is a couple of skeevy pervs and creeps like that “throbbing turgid love muscle” guy. Sigh.

        • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

          I felt a great disturbance in the Farce, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in error, and were suddenly silenced.

        • H0mer0

          that’s no way to talk about us! Oh, you mean the trolls.

  • Stulexington

    It makes sense when you realize Republicans just use words that sound good and pretend they have no actual meaning. Words mean what Republicans say they mean, words like “responsibility”, “life”, “Socialism” These have no meaning they are just buzz words they use.

  • chicken thief

    Well there you go! I’m going to 21st Century Stop Drinking.

  • kindness

    Elizabeth Warren will always be a hero to me.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Steve Mnuchin is out, right?

    • rocktonsam

      munchkin needs Joker makeup on his face.

  • mardam422

    My heart surgeon said he was like a 21st century Hippocrates. Should I be concerned?

  • Actually it would be better to just nationalize the banks. Until we do they will always be concocting world class thievery and getting away with it. Glass Steagal isn’t enough.

  • sgt. jmk of the résistance

    You can tell that Senator Warren is more grown up than I am. Hearing the condescension in Mnuchin’s voice at the end of that clip, I would have been unable to restrain myself from calling him “Stevie, cupcake.”

  • Serai 1

    WARREN: I’ll bet.

    Oh, I just LOVE her.

  • “Yes we wanted a Glass Steagall, except that it would be different people named Glass and Steagall. There’s Mnuchin Glass (me) and we might have to go with Steven Segal if we can’t find a Steagal, though. But clearly, a 21st century Glass Steagal must be written by 21st century people – 21st century people named Glass and Steagal. Or Segal.”

    • H0mer0

      you made me think of Glass-Smeagle and his PRECIOUS

  • Weird Fishes

    He’s a former Goldman partner. Hell, Cohn ran GS alongside Blankfein for years, even during the years that Mnuchin was mooching around the halls. Do not think for a hot second that he doesn’t understand the question, or the implications of reconstituting Glass-Steagall.

    I’m glad Maximum Cheeto showed up to save us from HRC and the pernicious influence of Goldman Sachs on the political process, aren’t you? No HRC and no pernicious influence, so yes: Job done. One problem left: The influence is no longer pernicious. It’s prevalent.

  • rocktonsam

    that’s right little lady it is crazy. now get in that kitchen and make me sammich

  • Jacob Prescott

    I mean sure Warren has spent her entire adult life combating corporate corruption and shady Wall Street business practices, but she also endorsed Killary BenClinton who got paid for speeches she gave on Wall Street. I say again, SPEECHES! So I am sure some green party deadender will tell us how we need to #Bernitdown.

    • LeftyProud

      I can’t for the life of me see why giving a damned speech, and being GASP paid for it by Goldman Sachs means you are owned by Goldman Sachs.

    • Gregory Brown

      Hillary got paid more money by the American Camping Association for a speech than she did by Goldman Sachs. So, my worry was that she was in the pocket of Big Camping! Enough about her fucking paid speeches.

    • phoenix00

      Getting paid by Russia, otoh, is A-OK!

  • aureolaborealis

    Just throwing this out there, but Liz is approximately the same age as the mess in the White House, but without the lifetime of evil and unchallenged intellectual leisure to addle her brainses.

  • cosmiccowgirl

    “It’s an easy question. Or an impossible question.”

    I love her so much.

    • Jimh

      “I’ll bet.”
      Gold.

  • Paperless Tiger

    White man speak with forked tongue.

  • Internet Hitler

    OKAY, we’ll mansplain it for you again, lady. In GOP-ese:

    Glass-Steagall = more money for millionaires
    affordable healthcare for all = more money for millionaires
    minimum wages = maximum wages for millionaires

    It’s simple if we make everything mean one thing.

    • Zyxomma

      ^^^^ THIS. Fucking fuckers (see my post above, or below if you read them oldest to newest).

    • Jimh

      It couldn’t be simpler!

    • Moar Wordz

      Still confused as to who authored the 21st Glass-Steagal bill, bcse dsn’t the above article state that Warren authored it ? Is the original Glass-Steagal bill in her favor while the amended 21st Glass-Steagal bill is NOT ? Inquiring minds ….

  • blueeyedcuban

    “You can pick up your nuts, as you leave. They’re in a mason jar by the door.”

  • mfp

    wow…mnuchin goes right to the head of the mealy-mouth lyin shitweasel class with that performance

  • Uncle Wally

    see, we said Jonathan Livingston Seagull, and we couldn’t be more clear. When we talk about the banks, we should have said shore, because we shore aren’t going to break up the banks. Banks? You’re welcome.

    I wish there were more Warrens in Washington.

    • H0mer0

      [that bunny reminds me of Donna Rose]

    • Bad Scooter

      Duh. We clearly stated support for the flock-of-seagulls bill, because they ran, they ran so far away. Like big investment bankers with bailout money. Moneymoneymoneymoney … what part of that do you not understand? Are you questioning the fact that it’s the 21st century? isn’t that a bit dramatic?

      • Uncle Wally

        thanks for cracking me up and making my day.

    • phoenix00
  • Poly_Ester

    It seems more appropriate to call a Trumpian 21st century Glass-Steagall act a Anti Glass-Steagall act.

    • Through-the-Looking-Glass-Steagall Act……

      • phoenix00

        Glass Ceiling Ain’t Broken-Steagall Act….

  • Khavrinen

    “in the 21st Century, words only mean what Donald Trump thinks they mean.”

    Inconceivable!

  • ThunderCat

    It’s totally easy: 21st Century Glass-Steagall means banks get to do whatever fuckery they want to engage in. In fact, the more fuckery they engage in, the more 21st Century Glass-Steagally they get.

    Why doesn’t that lady get it? I bet it’s because of her lady parts! That smart doctor Edward Clarke, professor at Harvard, had that figured out in the 19th century:

    “The system never does two things well at the same time. The muscles [= menstruation] and the brain cannot functionate in their best way at the same moment.”

  • Zyxomma

    Fucking fuckers.* /FFS.

    *In case you missed a recent post of mine, a few weeks ago I did some grueling mostly overnight shifts proofreading EDGAR documents (10-Ks, 10-Qs, prospectuses, etc.). Every time I saw a worst quarter that ended 12/31/08, after the banks and financial firms STOLE 20% of our country’s wealth, followed by a best quarter that ended either 3/31/09 or (more frequently) 6/30/09, IOW after these same banks and financial institutions were BAILED OUT WITH OUR MONEY, I, alone in the office where I proofed said documents, could have been heard muttering “fucking fuckers,” had anyone else been around to hear.

  • Lyly Sirivong

    How outrageous that some people dare to ask the members of the government to make sense…

  • Tiny kaiju

    I was under the impression that banking bankers playing at investment banking were exactly the cause to the 2008 financial debacle. Am I wrong or is Mnuchin a duplicitous snot goblin also? And the long time that banking and ivestment have been merged goes all the way back to, what 1996? Why it’s practically an antique by now. FFS

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Surprise! You’re not wrong.

    • John Resistant Tovarich Smith

      Just look at him. If you had a magnifying glass, that’s just what a maggot with glasses would look like. Apologies to maggots.

  • Celtic_Gnome

    You’d think someone as smart as Senator Warren would understand how the modern Republican party works: “We will say whatever sounds good if it means it’ll get us elected, then we’ll just do what we intended to do anyway and act like it’s your fault for not figuring that out by what we said.”

  • Alt-dog

    Wonder if he’d be in favor of a 21st century 2nd amendment — one that significantly restricts the right to bear arms.

  • SeeTrain65

    “Mnuchin seems a bit dim on the concept of supporting a law that doesn’t actually do what the law is supposed to do …”

    You had me at “Mnuchin seems a bit dim.”

    • theCryptofishist

      The rest was gravy…

  • SeeTrain65

    MNUCHIN: “It’s actually a complicated question.”

    WARREN: “I’ll bet.”

    I think I just had an orgasm.

  • Jeff Mc Donald

    It’s really easy to understand. It’s like when you want to divorce your partner, but you still want them to come home at night, share the chores with you, help raise the kids, commingle finances, and sleep with you, and have the sex when you’re not doing those other things, and be monogamous. Just not everything else.

  • King Beauregard

    Good on Warren in this particular exchange. She is a one-trick pony and in this case her trick is useful.

    But she lost me when she started bitching about Obama taking $400,000 to speak at a thing, as if the taking of money is itself selling out. (For those who are confused: the point at which it becomes “selling out” is betraying principles in exchange for money. You know, the whole “selling” part of “selling out”. Until that happens it’s just taking money from people who have money to burn.) Of course, Warren walked it back as soon as she started taking heat, because she wasn’t trashing Obama out of principles but because she thought it was an easy way to score points with a certain demographic.

    • Wokenfield

      Warren, a “one-trick pony?” Ha! If she is, she’s one of those ponies who ride on top of other ponies, who are then topped by someone standing on their head holding a BB-gun and shooting a bullseye from 100 yards away.

      And re: Obama, she likes him just fine, just not the “revolving door” between Washington and Wall Street, private citizen now or not. It’s kinda her thing, and has been for years. No “point-scoring” here, and no “walking back” I ever saw.

      Unless the uber-pony is walking backwards now, in high heels, doing the same thing. If so, that’s one hell of a pony.

      • King Beauregard

        It’s swell that you have such a high opinion of Warren, but the only thing she knows how to talk about is economic inequality; she doesn’t have much expertise in anything else.

        With Obama, think for a goddamn minute what’s going on here, rather than adhering to your impulse to defend Warren at all costs. Obama is a private citizen now. He can’t run for president again. He can’t offer any favors for that $400,000, so for her to say that she was “troubled” by his collecting a fee is to imply corruption where it cannot happen. It was a stupid criticism to make of the president who, among other things, signed the CFPB into law and even appointed Rick Cordray in an unlikely maneuver because the Republicans were blocking appointments on the whole.

        So smart people criticized Warren over all that, and she did indeed release a follow-up statement, saying that Obama has been an ally rather than a figure to be “troubled” over. Which is where she should have been in the first place, but she saw an opportunity to trash an ally for her own benefit and thought she could get away with it. That makes her a creep.

        • Wokenfield

          She’s talked about plenty of things other than just economic inequality, even though that’s her area of expertise. Read her bills/letters (which are complete with footnotes and citations).

          I get the first part of your statement, but highly disagree with your last two sentences. It’s not like she brought up the subject on her own; she was asked about it. There is zero, *zero* evidence that she “saw an opportunity to trash an ally for her own benefit” and is a “creep” for it. That’s projecting, “mind-reading,” and frankly, name-calling without a concrete basis.

          If she isn’t re-elected to the Senate, the country is screwed. Which is exactly what the banksters want.

          • King Beauregard

            If I had the opportunity to vote for her, I would do so. That doesn’t mean she was right to try to take opportunistic digs at Obama.

            And whether or not someone asked the question first, the fact is, she responded as she did. A better, more principled person would have said, “Obama is a private citizen, and if he can command large speaking fees, I have no problem with that. Obama has shown himself time and again to be on the side of economic fairness, and only a creep would claim to be ‘troubled’ by his collecting a fee. Seriously, what sort of shit person would that be? May I be struck by lightning before I ever sink that low.”

          • Wokenfield

            So Warren is a “shit person” now? Or somebody who, sure, should’ve clarified before her words were blown out of proportion by the right-wingers-creating-fake-left-wing-blogs-to-turn-the-left-against-itself (yes, they exist, and I can not-so-happily cite examples).

            You know that if she said she was A-OK with Obama collecting speaking fees from a Wall Street firm, she’d be called a “hypocrite.”

            She can’t win….

          • King Beauregard

            “right-wingers-creating-fake-left-wing-blogs-to-turn-the-left-against-itself”

            Funny, that’s how I would be tempted to classify all this “OMG, SPEAKING FEES!!!!1!!1!” noise that Bernie started and the dumbfucks on the Left happily ate up. (Not all Lefties are dumbfucks, though, as evidenced by how many of them called official shit person Liz Warren on her shit person smear against Obama. It’s a shame more of them didn’t call Bernie on it.)

            “You know that if she said she was A-OK with Obama collecting speaking fees from a Wall Street firm, she’d be called a “hypocrite.””

            Yes she would, but the difference being, the people calling her a hypocrite would be fucking retards whose heads are full of dogshit. As it is, she got called out by smart people with good sense, and it’s her own damn fault that she answered a very easy question incorrectly.

          • Wokenfield

            Liz Warren, supposedly a “shit person,” instead of a human being who yeah, should’ve clarified things, and yeah, isn’t perfect 24/7, but on the whole, is the badass we need to 1) call out the Trump adminstration on their BS and 2) is one of the few who can bridge the gap between Hillary and Bernie supporters. No wonder the right is trying to smear her with not one, but two PACs devoted to exactly that.

            I, for one, am not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

  • unclejeems

    This moron evidently has no idea who he’s dealing with, and condescends to Warren as if she’s just another of the hoi poloi in the Senate. (He might be right were she a Republican.) He acts like he doesn’t know–she fucking taught bankruptcy and commercial law at Harvard, for god-sakes. She knows what she’s talking about. He, on the other hand . . .

  • Incoming Ham

    Pointing out yet again that these mother fuckers have no other aim than to enrich themselves and their buddies. Doing what he describes does nothing for “the little guy” they all seem so fond of invoking.

  • DaveM

    Steve Munchkin is an asshole. Just like his boss. Sorry pile of shit who with any luck at all will die horribly. Quit parsing Elizabeth Warren like you know something. You know jack shit to what this lady knows. And talking about economic inequality is pretty much the thing we need to be talking about. Assholes like Trump, Pence, Munchkin, Ryan and any other shit head dirtbag Republican should realize they may be dinner one of these days when they starve people into desperation. It has happened before.

  • I could listen to Warren do this all day.

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