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Washington Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers wants you to know: She doesn’t hate your sick baby! She has a sick baby of her own, and obviously loves him very much. So when she voted to kill protections for sick babies like her son, by voting for the “American Health Care Act,” she had excellent reasons to do so, and only all of them were lies!

First she explains that her little son, Cole, has Down syndrome; clearly, she and her husband want the best for him.

Hearing late-night host Jimmy Kimmel’s emotional monologue this week about his son’s condition and his family’s experience in the moments after his birth, I had a flashback to the day my son was born and we learned he had Down syndrome.

My husband and I had a lot of questions about Cole’s future. Whether he’d have health care shouldn’t have had to be one of them. When you’re facing years of doctor’s appointments, you want to know that having a preexisting condition, such as an extra 21st chromosome or a heart defect, won’t prevent you or your loved ones from accessing the care you need.

Protections for children such as Cole Rodgers and Billy Kimmel have long existed, as they should. And despite what people are saying, House Republicans aren’t seeking to strip these protections — or anyone’s protections — away.

WELL ACTUALLY, protections for children such as Cole Rodgers and Billy Kimmel have not long existed — they have only existed since 2010, when President Obama signed them into law.

Before then, the health care system in the US was an even bigger shitshow than it is now! Here is what would happen!

What was insurance like before the war, Grandma?

Well, Tallulah, say you have insurance. You pay your premiums — which increase by 10 to 15 percent a year! Then you get sick, and your insurance company decides that because you saw a dermatologist for your pimples, they won’t pay for your chemo! This is a real thing that happens, ALL. THE. TIME. It is called “rescission,” and it means you get dumped off your insurance just when you finally need it. If insurance companies can’t find a reason to fire you from having insurance, they instead just put a cap on how much they’ll pay. So even though you have insurance, you end up going bankrupt. This is called “medical bankruptcy,” and IT happens all the time too!

Obamacare — horrible, terrible, no good Obamacare — outlaws rescission and tells insurance companies they have to take all the people who want to buy their product. They can’t charge sick people more. They can’t charge women more than men. (In some cases, 81 percent more!) They can’t put a “cap” on how much they will pay for your treatment — not an annual cap, and not a lifetime cap! Instead the cap goes the other way: The most YOU can pay out of your own pocket (not counting your premiums) in a year is $6600 ($7150 in 2017). That’s a lot of money, yes, but it is LESS money than you would pay for a weekend in the hospital, by A LOT. And you never know when you’re going to need a weekend in the hospital.

I love you Tallulah. I can’t wait for you to be born!

The most terrifying words in the English language: They’re Republicans and they’re here to help

Republicans started fixing Obamacare almost immediately. They fixed it by:

  • Suing to outlaw the insurance mandate, which ensured a large pool of people to “spread the risk” around, so young healthy people could help older, sicker people, and receive the same help when they are older.
  • They won!

  • Suing to ensure red states wouldn’t have to accept free federal money to give more of their own citizens Medicaid. The excruciatingly calibrated law had a minimum income level for which it would offer subsidies to buy insurance; it did not offer subsidies to people who were TOO POOR (earning less than 138 percent of the poverty level) because it was assumed those people would get expanded Medicaid, as written in the law. Republicans said NO THANK YOU! And the Supreme Court agreed!
  • Suing to keep the Obama administration from subsidizing insurance companies for their losses since they all of a sudden had a bunch of sick people who weren’t eligible for insurance before. Even though these payments were part of the law, which had passed both houses of Congress and been signed by a president, Republicans decided they hadn’t appropriated the money. It’s not often you see Republicans sue to keep from giving money to large corporations, but they had a very good reason, which was that the president was black.

Mysteriously, premiums and deductibles both rose really high after that! Obamacare started to suck — not as bad as before Obamacare, but sort of bad nonetheless! And if you’re in a red state — with a few exceptions, like Ohio under John Kasich or Arizona under Jan Brewer (really!) — you got boned. On purpose. It’s amazing what a little sabotage between friends can do.

Cathy McMorris Rodgers Is Ready For Her Lies Now

Type some words, Rep. McMorris Rodgers, that we may cuss you.

This bill isn’t perfect. It doesn’t include every single component I wanted. But it came down to the AHCA or the continued disaster of Obamacare, which was an easy choice. The AHCA is a major improvement, because a federal one-size-fits-all approach to health care isn’t the answer. A major feature of our plan is returning control to states, through both funding and reducing red tape, which empowers them to innovate and to stabilize costs.

In this case, “innovate” and “reduce red tape” means they can exempt insurance plans in the state from having to charge people the same amount, or cover things like “cancer.” That IS empowering!

With Obamacare, our health- insurance system relies on younger, healthier people subsidizing the costs of the older and sicker. As a result, insurance costs consistently increase to cover the costs of people who are considered “high-risk,” namely those who are sick or who have preexisting conditions. High-risk pools and reinsurance programs at the state level address this concern and have been successful in the past. Our plan establishes a program to provide federal resources for states to create high-risk pools, reduce out-of-pocket costs or promote better access to services.

Wow, that is a doozy! “With Obamacare, our health- insurance system relies on younger, healthier people subsidizing the costs of the older and sicker.” That is literally how insurance works. Insurance itself is a socialist concept whereby people who aren’t sick pay for people who are. People whose houses didn’t burn down pay for people whose houses did. As to pre-existing conditions, those include having ever given birth (as 80 percent of American women will), acne, breathing, and wrists.

States know better than the federal government how to allocate and manage resources to address the needs of their people. Our plan allows states to serve and provide financial support directly to vulnerable populations, including people with preexisting conditions. We’ve seen this system work before — just look at Maine. After the state created an “invisible” high-risk pool (“invisible” because it did not cordon off people with preexisting conditions from the traditional market) and relaxed its premium rating rules in 2011, people with preexisting conditions continued to have access to health care and their premiums were cut in half.

It seems odd to have to point this out to a member of Congress, but Maine’s “invisible” high risk pool actually kind of sucked!

The vast majority of small businesses also saw rates jump, some by more than 40 percent, CAHC’s report found, as Maine’s law allowed them to be charged more based on the employees’ age, location, industry, and several other factors. One small publishing company on the Eastern shoreline had to pay $75,144 more to insure their 31 employees, even though the new plan had a higher deductible and less coverage.

And while people with preexisting conditions may continue to have “access” to insurance, if premiums are jacked up by an extra $17,000 per year for a woman because she has given birth in the past, nobody will have the money to pay them.

To me, protecting people with preexisting conditions isn’t just good policy — it’s a personal mission.

Then you really shouldn’t have voted for the AHCA, because that is literally the opposite of what it does.

The AHCA is a monumental step forward that trusts the American people — not the federal government — to make the best decisions for themselves and their families.

Like the decision not to ever get sick. That is a good decision, which people should make more often. Especially all the little Kimmels and Rodgers, who really should decide not to be Born That Way.

[WaPo]

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  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • CogitoErgoBibo

      They’re not exempt anymore. There was an amendment that passed unanimously yesterday which removed the exemption.
      https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/4/15547120/ahca-congress-exemption-passes

      • tomamitai

        The exemption still requires at least 60 votes in the Senate and will need to survive a filibuster. Congressional Republicans don’t think they can get the exemption through the reconciliation process they are relying on to replace the health care bill, which only requires 51 votes to pass.

        This means there is a decent chance that even if the American Health Care Act passed the Senate, the fix to close the loophole for legislators still might not.

        But don’t these paragraphs from the same article mean that the legislator’s exemption will stay in, and that they are sneaky motherfuckers?

        • Alan

          Not sure about the rest but yes, sneaky motherfuckers.

        • CogitoErgoBibo

          Well, the whole bill is in jeopardy in reconciliation, so I’d say the exemption is as much a thing as the bill itself. No better. No worse.

  • JohnBull

    I’m sure this Republican woman loves her son. I’m just as sure she doesn’t give a fuck about anyone outside her immediate family.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Best summation I’ve heard of the difference between Dems and Ratfucks.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      On the empathy scale, I think she rates one and a half portmans.

  • Ezio

    GOP: Pro-Life! Save the baby! It’s about the right to life!

    Jimmy Kimmel: My three hour old baby needed intensive care….

    GOP: What!? We’re not paying for this crap! Why is everyone a victim nowadays?

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Well, sorry about your preexisting conditions no longer being covered. But don’t worry. The rich guys are still gonna get that nice, fat tax cut. You can die happy in that knowledge.
    https://twitter.com/TPM/status/860539909190410241

    • ExpatGirl

      Remember when all those people were just horrified about four Americans dying in Benghazi because Americans! And why didn’t we protect them?! And was HRC home alone all night when it happened?

      Wonder if dippy Martha Roby is going to be holding vigils for the 62,000 people in her district she just took health insurance from.

  • SnarkON

    “I had a flashback to the day my son was born and we learned he had Down syndrome.”

    Hey, Rep. McMorris, you may not be aware of this, but there are actual medical tests you can get while you’re pregnant to find out whether your baby has Down syndrome! So you don’t have to wait until your kid is born and be surprised! Those tests are part of standard prenatal care. Oh, wait, never mind; America doesn’t do prenatal care anymore.

    • Shanzgood

      Thank you! That was my first thought: how do you not fukkin know your kid has Downs Syndrome before it’s born?

      • Yr. Gma

        Prenatal care is denying the will of God. Or something.

      • Persistent Tennessee Rain

        I didn’t. I chose not to. I did have ultrasounds that indicated by bone spacing (?) that my babies probably didn’t have Down Syndrome, but I didn’t have an amniocentisis because I really didn’t care.

        With that being said, the congress critter is a first rate lying fool who needs to go kick rocks.

  • Mavenmaven

    “empowers them”, that is the executives at insurance companies who profit off of the sufferings of regular people.

  • Anna Rompage

    Seeing that nearly 24 million people will be losing their healthcare coverage under this abomination of a WealthCare bill, including millions of kids from low income families, this person is a delusional fucking quack…

    • Serai 1

      Selfish hateful bitch is more like it.

      • snark-lurker

        well she’s probably never had an orgasn

        • Alan

          Haha, women aren’t supposed to like sex. Jesus or some such crap.

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    And yet, Representative, up until the very last minute you wouldn’t have to worry about your son’s pre-existing condition being covered because the bill you approved exempted Members of Congress and their families from being affected by it! Now that the bill as passed doesn’t, you might want to revise your statement.

    • tomamitai

      They left themselves an out, see my comment further down.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    The AHCA is a monumental step forward that trusts the American people — not the federal government — to make the best decisions for themselves and their families.

    Well, apparently that very same American people can’t be trusted to not vote Nazis into office, so there’s that.

    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      It’s funny how that doesn’t apply to women and their uteri.

    • Yes, let’s trust the same people who didn’t even know the ACA and Obamacare are the same thing to make the best healthcare decisions on their own.

  • Han Shot First

    I effing hate all of the R’s. All of the, Katie.

  • goonemeritus

    Representative Cole’s son will just have to struggle by on the several million his mother will earn as a future lobbyist like every other kid in America.

    • Shoto

      “May I have another bowl of gruel Beluga caviar, please?”

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  • Shoto

    Ian Masters interviews Jonathan Oberlander, “a professor of Social Medicine and Health Policy and Management at the University of North Carolina”

    https://fdmedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/bbriefing_2017_05_04b_jonathan-oberlander.mp3

  • Serai 1

    I still can’t understand why the fuck it’s somehow legal for a business to take people’s money according to a contract and then just change their minds and decide NOPE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU WHAT YOU PAID FOR.

    • rebecca

      have you heard of this guy, the president?

      • Serai 1

        No, sorry. This has been true for DECADES. Some of it stopped being true for a few years, but this is not something Trump invented.

        • Alan

          In fairness, it’s something trump wants to return to.

          • Serai 1

            Yes, but that’s irrelevant. I want to know why it’s legal to pull this shit, why it was EVER legal.

          • Toomush_Inferesistance

            Lobbyists….

          • Alan

            Oh. Because these people think that healthcare is a marketable commodity, not a public good.

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            I agree; it’s maddening! Imagine if a pizza parlor opened in your town, and when you ordered a pepperoni pizza, they delivered you a box with six undercooked chicken wings instead. They’d go out of business in a few weeks. But because it’s our healthcare, there’s no alternate “pizza parlor” we can go to. All the insurance companies are in collusion to fuck us all as hard as they can. If the congress really wants to “fix” insurance they need to regulate the absolute shit out of it. Since we’ll never get that “socialist” single-payer system.

      • MynameisBlarney

        It’s Derpnald Turmp, or somethin’ right?

    • Alan

      Read the fine print, only a one year contract subject to the tides.

    • tomamitai

      You’ve obviously never read the terms of service for anything, which is understandable, because TOS are written not to be understandable to normal human beings.

      • Alan

        They’re perfectly understandable, just nobody reads them. I was at a closing for a mortgage and the mortgage person looked at my wife and said “you’re not going to read that whole thing, are you? I have another appointment in 20 minutes”.

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          I’ve had that same experience, not with a mortgage but when I was on a jury. I was the only one in the room who wanted to read the whole paper they gave us and ask questions about it. Very strange and more than a little chilling.

          • Alan

            And your decision actually affected someone else. I would have had a fit.

    • Kakkeltje

      You mean like United Airlines?

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    And now, I shall trot out anecdotes about my dear little son, who has Down Syndrome, to illustrate to the American people how just fine our family will continue to be, because we have money!

    • ExpatGirl

      And are exempt from the AHCA!

    • DainBramage

      Money may not buy happiness (or empathy, intelligence, morals, ethics), but it’s great at paying the bills.

    • arglebargle

      So a new and improved Sarah Palin? A toddler mama grizzly, if you will.

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        In a dress that probably cost more than most of our rents for a month.

  • Aileen

    It will be fun to see what Congresscritters who voted for this abomination will do next week when the CBO comes out with the numbers. Like, how many people will lose their insurance (it will be more than 24 million!) and how many people will just flat-out die each year because of it, and how much more various age groups and income levels will be paying in premiums. Will they act shocked, shocked I tell you! and claim they had no idea? Will they just continue to lie? Will they come up with a new justification? “Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel’s baby would totally face a lifetime coverage cap on like, day 10 of his life, but think of the tax savings we can deliver to the top 2%!”

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Naw, they’ll just say “You mean the same CBO who badly underestimated the cost of ObamaCare?” (No really, that’s what one Congressman said when he was asked why they were voting without seeing the CBO score.)

      • Celtic_Gnome

        The CBO badly underestimated the numbers on the ACA because they worked on the assumption that all 50 states would take the Medicare expansion because the federal government would pick up 100% of the cost.

        They forgot they were dealing with Republicans who would cut off their noses to spite their faces.

        • Eo Raptor

          “They forgot they were dealing with Republicans who would cut off their constituents’ noses to spite their faces.”

          FIFY

          • Ill-Advised

            And thereby feed the leopards.

    • Serai 1

      They won’t do anything. They’ve never done anything about the people who die on their watch. They just don’t fucking care.

    • jesterpunk

      They will do the same thing they do when the CBO gives their budget a bad score and order them to use some voodoo math so it makes sense.

    • DainBramage

      As long as they can say that they only kill people via speadsheet, they’ll continue to insist that they’re better than Stalin.

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        “And what can you offer to make up for the misery you prepared to wreak on thousands of people who trusted you? What fanatics do to us with guns and bombs, you tried to do with an accounting trick! Don’t you think for a minute that you deserve anything better than they do.”

        • Opalescent Riddles

          No! No, look! You’re going to need me!

          The [AHCA] is a special purpose partnership capitalized by third-party equity to hedge certain [Republican] assets.

    • therblig

      “Numbers are fake news” – Every last fucking GOP scumbag

      • Aileen

        “Unintelligible screaming interspersed with vows to vote them out.” – Every one of their constituents at every town hall they ever hold again, I hope.

        • h4rr4r

          Not gonna happen. There will be some of that, but the rurals are already celebrating freedumbs.

          • i’mjustaskingthequestion

            I agree with you, but I hope that enough people get irritated just enough to swing a vote in favour of checks and balances.

            If the make up of gov’t changed and trump actually had to work with dems, I think the nation would get whiplash as they watched him pivot at the speed of light. I think it would be open, blatant and icky.

            Even TX has had a dem governor.

          • h4rr4r

            I think we need to focus on those who did not vote.

          • Aileen

            Oregon’s lone Republican Congressman, Greg Walden, has been on the receiving end of a fair bit of constituent rage. But, a “Republican Oregonian” is likely more progressive than most.

      • i’mjustaskingthequestion

        Exactly. The (forever non-partisan) CBO is an “agent” of the Left-Wing!!@@! LIES!!! FREEDOM!!! CHOICE!!!!(except for womens reproductive health…), FREEEEEE MAAARRRRKKKKEETSSS!!!

    • Dudleydidwrong

      My guess is that the prevailing attitude will be some variation on “Hey, that’s the breaks….” They’ve tried so long and so often to reject this and made so many promises they won’t let any statistics bother them. Let’s hope the voters see things quite differently. I admit, however, to not being too optimistic.

    • Eo Raptor

      For a Rethuglican, if lying is an option, it’s the default. Their manual says they use other options only when lying won’t work. So far, lying has worked just fine.

  • Han Shot First

    I work for a children’s hospital and see the devastating effect that under and non-insured go through every day. It’s a big freaking deal. Here’s what my CEO sent to all employees (personal info redacted): “This afternoon, the U.S. House of Representatives voted to pass the American Health Care Act (AHCA) by a vote of 217 to 214.

    Along with our children’s hospital colleagues from across the country, we remain concerned about the impact this legislation may have on children and children’s health.

    Medicaid is the single largest insurer of children in the country. The program provides healthcare coverage for children when their families cannot otherwise afford it. Medicaid provides health coverage to approximately 30 million children, or about 40 percent of all U.S. children. In Ohio, 1.2 million children and over 47 percent of the patients served by Cincinnati Children’s rely on Medicaid for health insurance.

    Some of our most pressing concerns are:

    • The AHCA passed by the House could cut Medicaid spending by as much as 25 percent by 2026, according to an original analysis released by the Congressional Budget Office.

    • The AHCA does not specifically protect funding for children. Because there are no explicit protections per category, states could move dollars originally intended for children to cover shortfalls for adult or disabled services under the AHCA.

    • The Federal minimum floor benefits (EPSDT protections), such as dental coverage for children, occupational therapy treatment and mental health, could be left to individual state discretion.

    The bill now moves to the U.S. Senate where substantial changes can still be made. Our #### Children’s Government Relations team will remain vigilant in working with the national Children’s Hospital Association and Ohio Children’s Hospital Association to partner with our Senators to advocate for the protection of Medicaid services for children.

  • ExpatGirl

    Don’t you love how they trot out the insipid vanilla woman to dress up their murderous lunacy?

    Hey! McMorris! If the AHCA is so great why are you exempt?

    • not_vh

      Hey! McMorris Rodgers! If the AHCA is so great why are you exempt?

      Amen

  • ManchuCandidate

    Thanks Rogers. I’m sure that your son will appreciate you making life into a pre-existing condition.

    • JohnBull

      Life: A Pre-Existing Condition.
      Now THAT’S a good sign to annoy pro-life marchers with.

      • OrG

        Not pro-life. Anti-abortion.

        • Ms.MLG on Maui

          Anti-woman!

  • Serai 1

    Remember this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNuCfD5bICQ

    Oh, how we laughed, thinking it would never apply again!

  • jesterpunk

    My sister is an actuary and before the ACA she was bragging how much money she made helping insurance companies deny people coverage or kicking them off of their insurance. I dont talk to her for many reasons including that one but people like her are going to go back to making a lot of money in bonuses if the AHCA passes the senate.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      “The government should not get between you and your doctor! That’s what actuaries are for!” – rejected GOP slogan

      • cmd resistor

        Some asswipe was yapping on CNN about how this was a great bill because it gets people back to the relationship with their doctors. Which, actually, means absolutely nothing, just a catch phrase they like to throw around. I kept noticing he had these odd non-human looking eyes, and thought he might be a robot. Then they flashed up that he was a former aide to Paul Ryan, which explains the zombie eyes and general assholery.

        • BrianW

          So then, Republican’s eyes flash like the replicants in Blade Runner? That would explain a lot, except that replicants can at least learn to have emotions.

          • cmd resistor

            I’ve not seen that movie but there was something very not human about them.

          • BrianW

            It’s an interesting look at what it means to be human. You either like it or don’t; there seems to be no in-between about it.

    • DainBramage

      Blood money.

      • jesterpunk

        Yes it is. That is one reason among many I dont talk to her.

    • JohnBull

      How do people like this sleep at night? Oh, with a fucking Bible. All’s good.

      • jesterpunk

        Yep, she goes to church every weekend so its all good or something. She also does the recall stuff for car companies to decide if its cheaper to pay out when people die or if its cheaper to issue a recall. Sure she makes a lot of money but its not a job I could do ever.

        • HogeyeGrex

          Not to sound too harsh, but I really hope that some day she realizes the damage she’s caused and it fucking haunts her for the rest of her life.

          • jesterpunk

            I do too but I doubt it, her and her husband are republicans and think anything they do is the greatest thing ever. They love all the tax breaks they will get for having lots of money too.

  • Nounverb911
  • Bitter Scribe

    Does she really believe that shit or is she just pretending to? IOW, is she stupid or cynical?

    Please, please, nobody reply “AOT,K.” Those are opposite choices.

    If I come off as cranky, it’s because I am. My health insurance might soon cost more per month than my mortgage payment, meaning no early retirement for me; I either find another job soon or go broke.

    • Serai 1

      You’ve never met a stupid cynic?

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Cyncial. I’m guessing this was penned when they still had the provision in the bill that exempted Congress from being affected by it. There was a last-minute amendment yesterday to strip that part out once people started pointing out “Hey! If this piece of crap is such a good idea, why are you allowed to ignore it?”

  • Suttree

    Fucking fuck fucker! I want to take her healthcare away! Fucking moocher!

    • Wild Cat

      I want to take much more away from her and her ilk, much more.

  • Michael R

    YOU GOT YOURS , WE KNOW ( we pay for it ) . SHUT UP .

  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    We need to be on the streets, telling folks this…..letters to small newspaper editorial columns, radio shows, just fucking yelling in the street. Fuck these fuckers and the fucking elephant they rode in on….My Grrrr just went into overdrive, I don’t know about you….

    • SisterArtemis

      My grrrrr’s been on overdrive for so many weeks now that it’s like that train engine that’s drifted to the back of your mind, blending in with the ambient noise all around.

  • proudgrampa

    Screw her.

    • Proud Liberal

      Somebody sure did.

      • TundraGrifter

        She looks like she might be fun for a one-night stand – but she also looks like she’d call the next morning again and again and again until your phone melted.

        • HogeyeGrex

          Never stick your penis in the crazy.

    • Wild Cat

      With a pitchfork.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      Thanks, but I’ve got better things to do. Unscrew her. She looks as if she’d be one who would regret the event and find a lawyer to bring charges for rape.

      As for her Downs syndrome child, I have great sympathy for him because he has a thoughtless ideologue for a mother.

  • TundraGrifter

    “…the state created an ‘invisible’ high-risk pool (‘invisible’ because it did not cordon off people with preexisting conditions from the traditional market)…”

    The invisible hand just pulled the invisible rug out from under the invisible (because they are the poors) sick folks.

    Literally.

    • HogeyeGrex

      So… an invisible fist with invisible Crisco.

  • Professor Fate

    using her own child to lie with – god in heaven how do they bloody live with themselves.

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      I don’t know, but they sleep beautifully, on mattresses stuffed with our money.

      • Professor Fate

        The bad sleep well to quote a movie title.

    • Jennifer R

      Their doctors write them nice prescriptions on demand.

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        Xanax is a poor substitute for a conscience.

        • Jennifer R

          Xanax and self satisfaction?

  • Nyumbu

    Rodgers is a lying little bitch.The House passed the American
    Health Care Act with the Congressional exemption intact after first passing
    a separate bill that would repeal the exemption that would be created by the AHCA if both bills became law.

  • Treehopper1104

    Why is it so hard for people to understand how insurance works? What do they think it is?

    • Jennifer R

      End consumers operate on far too much good faith in some situations and far too little in others.

    • Alan

      In all fairness, they have a vague concept of insurance as applied to their home and car, they have no clue how medical care works.

      • h4rr4r

        Clearly they do not.
        In car and home insurance the people who do not file claims pay for the claims for people who do.

  • Carpe Vagenda

    I’m confused. Because she voted for her beloved little boy who she only wants to best for to keep his Obamacare. She just took it away from everyone else.

    • jesterpunk

      “I got mine, fuck you”

      GOP and Ayn Rand motto.

    • NastyBossetti

      That’s why she’s confused and thinks she’s working hard to protect people with pre-existing conditions – she and her family and their pre-existing conditions will be exempted, so what is everyone’s problem?

  • ariel_gee_398

    For the love of Christ, can someone who knows something about healthcare and health insurance in this country start interviewing these people? We’re not even making it a challenge for them to dissemble.

    • Jennifer R

      The challenge is supposed to be the huge swell of voters that lose coverage.

    • jesterpunk

      The only people they listen to is the CEO’s saying they dont make as much money and have to actually insure gross sick people.

    • Alan

      Nope, the political system assures that we elect people who have no idea what they’re making decisions about and they are so clueless that you can’t actually have an intelligent conversation with them because they have no basic knowledge from which to even begin to discuss anything.

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        So many of them had zero shame when they stated they did not even read what they were voting for. They just went on with their “Obamacare sux” patter as a justification for voting for anything that would dismantle it.

        • Alan

          Yep, and they avoid the entire adult conversation about economics of health care because hard to understand. I’m liking technocracy more and more with old age.

        • ariel_gee_398

          Yes, and surely there must be a few reporters somewhere in DC well-versed in health policy enough to expose these people. I don’t know how much of a difference it would make to their constituents, but I feel like it has to be better to expose their lies rather than just letting them pass through unquestioned.

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Rachel Maddow last night said she actually has a degree in health policy, and I still felt frustrated watching her show because I know there are people out there who are so threatened by a smart, liberal lesbian that they’d have to be tied to a chair and have their eyelids pinned open before they’d watch.

          • ariel_gee_398

            A Clockwork Orange had some good ideas…

            I know health policy is deadly boring to most people, but it’s probably the one sector of the economy that EVERYONE interacts with most frequently. I don’t expect every voter to pay attention to every debate and understand the nuance of every policy, but I think our Representatives should know the difference between, say, access to health care and the affordability of health care. It just really frustrates me that we’re letting our political discourse at all levels become so unreliable and useless.

        • cmd resistor

          I watched a clip of a reporter asking them one by one as they walked to the vote if they’d read the bill. A couple said yes. Many just ignored him. One said he was in a hurry. And that was just a few , maybe 10-15, out of the bunch.

  • Yr. Gma

    These scum can lie all they want to, and the rubes can believe them, but when the insurance premium arrives or the care is denied, then the rubes will be facing reality. All the blathering these Repubes do is just words. It’s going to take some time, but eventually the reality will be apparent to everyone. Then we start over with a new party in charge and fix this mess. This abomination can not stand forever.

    • Darlene Underdahl

      The problem is; once the new party cleans up the mess, the lackwit rubes will vote Republican again. Maybe most of them will be dead. We can hope.

    • Thiazin Red

      All the republicans have to do is shout “Gays, Blacks, Abortion!” and the people they screwed over will vote for them again. Being able to screw over someone else is more important to them than helping themselves.

    • sigyn

      My congresscritter, who voted for this, thinks she’s going to run for governor of this rural state in 2019. I’m thinking that’s just about the time that the shit starts hitting the fan in a state with lots of older and/or low-income voters.

      She’s gonna be covered with it.

  • snark-lurker

    gop: if you cannut afford it you donut deserve it

    • jesterpunk

      Unless your rich and cant run a casino then you can declare bankruptcy and even become PeeOTUS.

  • MynameisBlarney

    She seems nice.

    • OrdinaryJoe

      Stupid is not the same as nice.

      • Alan

        Bless her heart.

        • Ms.MLG on Maui

          Her cold, dead, icy heart…

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          And other parts.
          .
          .
          .
          Okay, I apologize. That took things too far. I’ll show myself out.

  • OrdinaryJoe

    The largest impact of the Rethuglican “health care” sham is on women. GOTeaPotty women in Congress voted to make having a vagina a pre-existing condition. Read through this piece of shit. They took most anything specific to women and threw out of coverage.

  • Chadwells

    As a counterpoint to this horrible disgrace of a human….here we have (what sounds like) an empathetic and human hearted GOP senator. Now all he has to do is prove what he means…and git ‘er done.

    “GOP senator: ObamaCare repeal must pass ‘Jimmy Kimmel test’”

    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/332072-gop-senator-obamacare-repeal-must-pass-jimmy-kimmel-test

    • snark-lurker

      WTF doz that even mean?

      • Chadwells

        According to what I read…they want to make sure that if any child is born in the condition or similar to that of Kimmel’s child, said children have all the required access to the care that they will need for their first few years of life.

        So they are coining the phrase the “Jimmy Kimmel test”

        • snark-lurker

          “access” is a liar’s word in this context

          • Alan

            Yeah that.

          • Thiazin Red

            Like I have access to Prada clothes. Sure I can’t afford any and will never actually have any, but they do exist so I have theoretical access.

          • puredog

            I’d note the access to five-finger discounts, but even if that were feasible in a Prada-type dispensary, very shortly you’d be into first-degree theft territory, which usually ain’t no mere misdemeanor.

            Besides, it would be wrong, that’s for sure.

          • snark-lurker

            that’s oww it wurkx

        • Alan

          It’s not clear if he wants that to protect people who couldn’t afford the insurance in the first place.

          • Chadwells

            Scorched earth….I get it. However, I think he did say that when he said:

            “simple answer [is] I want to make sure folks get the care they need.”

          • Alan

            One can only hope he meant that the way you and I interpret it.

          • Chadwells

            That would be tops, wouldn’t it?

            Come on, fellow resistor!!! I’m trying to keep my head above water in this sea of shit!!

        • YetAnotherRebecca

          I read the article and thought “what about *after* those first few years of life?” Will a child born with a chronic medical condition cease to be protected by a ban of lifetime limits if/when their age gets into double digits?? Does that two year old newly diagnosed as a type 1 diabetic get the money for their insulin cut off when they reach their lifetime limit at age 12??

          • Chadwells

            yeah….that gave me the willies too. Baby steps. No pun intended.

          • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

            All of those are very excellent questions, and therefore no Republican will ever address them.

      • Chadwells

        DISCLAIMER: Grain of salt and all that shit because they are all lying scumbags….but it sounds fuzzy.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Not even remotely on topic, buuuuuut….

    I ordered a buffalo chicken wrap with green peppers, and they put jalapenos in instead.

    It was good, but my ears are still sweating.

    • Proud Liberal

      Oh my goodness. That is a lot of spice!

      • MynameisBlarney

        Yes.
        And they weren’t pickled jalapenos either.
        But the freshies they use for their Bahn Mi sammiches.

    • Suttree

      Needs moar peppers!

    • snark-lurker

      O…..M…..G!…..!

    • Chyron HR

      Sorry, but hallapenyas are a pre-existing condition now.

    • ariel_gee_398

      Well, jalapenos *are* green.

    • Suttree

      I once made a bet with a friend. It involved habeneros. Raw

      • h4rr4r

        Or as I like to call them snacking peppers.

        • Suttree

          I get pickled cherry peppers. The hot ones! I love ’em!

        • Suttree

          Oh BTW I won!

    • Prexisting Condition Jack

      You elitist librulsz with your buffalo chicken wraps and your holly penis peppers.

      I’m actually really jealous. I’ve wanted a taco/wrap since I woke up.

    • h4rr4r

      From Jalapenos?

      Get some Carolina Reaper.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Why?
        I like to be able to taste my food.

        • h4rr4r

          Taste and spice are not related.
          They don’t even use the same sensory cells.

          Your claim is analogous to saying texture prevents you from tasting flavor.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Okay, whatever.

          • h4rr4r

            What a convincing argument in the face of facts.

            Thankfully we don’t have a society in which people use that argument against important stuff like vaccines or global climate. It is only used for food or experience you don’t like.

          • MynameisBlarney
          • h4rr4r

            Only enough to find me a pretty gif.
            Thanks

          • MynameisBlarney

            Why the fuck you trollin’ me?

          • h4rr4r

            Huh?

          • MynameisBlarney

            Your last few posts in this silly thread regarding peppers and taste vs/ spice are very troll-like.

            What’s up with that?

          • h4rr4r

            Says the guy with the trolly gif.

            I pointed out a fact and made a snide comment about folks who say stuff like that. It was bitchy not trolly.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Fine.
            I’ll be moving on to more interesting things now.

          • Jenny

            When my mouth is on fire, I can’t taste a thing. All my brain registers is omg omg omg!

      • Lance Thrustwell

        I got a jar of that stuff (dried, ground) in my spice rack. I’ve got to be verrry careful with how much of it I add to something. A few too many grains and poof! Inedible.

        • MynameisBlarney

          I got some Ghost Pepper Jelly a while back.
          It was really good with crackers and cream cheese.

          • cmd resistor

            I never thought I would like pepper jelly but there was a guy who sold it at our farmers’ market and had samples with crackers and cream cheese. I don’t think he had ghost peppers but did have habaneros and it was good.

          • puredog

            I’ve said this before, but try to hunt down some Haunted Ghost Pepper Chips from a company called Paqui. (Whole Paycheck carries them here in Portland.) For a commercial chip, they are insanely hot. Many people would not like them for that reason, but I go through a couple of bags a week. (The bags are not huge.)

    • Lance Thrustwell

      It’s interesting how widely jalapenos can vary on the Scoville heat unit scale – 2,500 – 10,000 SHU by some estimates. Sometimes they’re like banana peppers, other times they’re preeetty darn spicy!

    • Beowoof14

      Oh yeah I would have loved that.

    • puredog

      Rise above it. Capsicum is good for you.

    • Yowza!

      I purposely bit into a fresh jalapeno a few days ago, because sometimes I am a complete dumbass.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    As I’ve been reading these past couple of days, it has occurred to me that what’s wrong with nearly every situation is that people have no real understanding of cause and effect. They may understand the concept, more or less, but they don’t usually care to try to find out the real cause of a thing. I started to make a big long explanation of this, but y’all don’t need it, and those who do won’t see it.

    Anyway, what it boils down to is this: Drumpf voters. you voted for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party, and now they’re eating your face. That is cause and effect. Try to remember it next time.

    • Marsupial99

      I thought it was the Face Ripper Monkey party, but it has the same effect.

  • h4rr4r

    How did she not know until the kid was born?
    Did she have her baby in the woods?

    How is rescission not fraud? They took premiums on the basis that they would give coverage. If there was a preexisting condition that meant there would not be coverage then they got those premiums under false pretenses.

    • Lefty Wright

      Sometimes they would dig back in your medical history and find, for example, you had your tonsils out when you were 6, then claim you lied on your application by not mentioning it under previous surgeries.

      • h4rr4r

        I don’t see how that matters.

        They collected premiums on the basis that they would provide a service for that money. if they failed to get your complete medical history before agreeing to the contract, that should be their problem not yours.

        • ariel_gee_398

          Usually, you’re promising that you’ve provided a complete medical history when you sign up. So your failing to disclose your full medical history comes before their failure to pay.

          I’ve never seen any cases on this, but I wonder if anyone has ever sued to get their premiums back after being denied coverage…

          • h4rr4r

            My very limited understanding is that generally you are only saying to the best of your ability. There are medical conditions each of us can’t know about due to age. I am sure there is some BS reason this is legal though.

          • puredog

            If there is ( and I’m not saying there is), it would be along the lines of your having greater access to your own medical history than they, coupled with a duty of inquiry on your part to find out what you can.

          • h4rr4r

            Like I said, Bullshit.

    • LadyLaz

      Depends on how old the kid is. They’ve only started having really reliable and safe blood tests to evaluate for downsyndrome in the last few years. They were not common when I had my kids (8 and 6.)

      They assessed my children in utereo for down syndrome though ultrasounds and careful measurement of various body parts. If it was suspected, I would have had to get an amniocentesis. That was dangerous.

      Before all the measurement stuff, like twenty years ago, it was a surprise.

      • h4rr4r

        Blood test?

        Ultrasound would generally give it away. Thickness of the neck for example. My child is three. Since most downs children live only hours to days in suffering, my wife had already decided against carrying to term in that case.

        • LadyLaz

          http://americanpregnancy.org/prenatal-testing/first-trimester-screen/

          My husband and I had agreed that we would terminate if I was carrying a child with down syndrome. But I didn’t end up having to face that choice. A very good friend of mind had to terminate a very wanted child because he would not survive birth.

          • h4rr4r

            Neat, like it says ultrasound is also used.

            That is unfortunate and my wife had made the same decision if it came to it. I will not belittle her by pretending it was we. Her body, her choice.

    • laineypc

      I think there is a mentality that not testing shows you’re 100% a-ok with raising a Down’s or other genetically different child, or you’re against abortion, or both. Because only abortiony people test. Or only not-abortiony people don’t test. You don’t want to know because you’ll take what you’re given.

      • NotReallyHere

        I this is probably exactly right.

      • h4rr4r

        Taking what you are given does not seem at odds with being prepared to me. Not that I understand any of this.

        • laineypc

          I agree. Not testing perhaps leaves no room for doubt in your mind or anyone else’s that you’re committed. I suppose there are other explanations I haven’t thought of.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Rep. Adam Schiff last night on Rachel Maddow’s show:
    “When I first ran for Congress I had a man approach me and ask why I voted for the ACA. I told him I wanted access to affordable care for all Americans, no matter how poor or sick. I could tell he was not going to be happy with my response. I asked, “Don’t you want everyone to be able to take care of their basic health needs and those of their children?” He responded, “No. If they can’t afford it, that’s too bad. They don’t deserve it.”
    Schiff: “I have a feeling, although they won’t say it openly, a lot of my Republican colleagues feel exactly the same way.”

    • h4rr4r

      A feeling? That is the very basis of their party.

      • Bill D. Burger

        Rep Schiff is a very cordial and kind man.

        • LadyLaz

          He’s good stuff.

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        • Pilotshark

          only 56 could be a start of the younger blood (well 70 is the new 50) for leadership.
          there are more than a few who could maybe take a roll in leadership.

      • OneYieldRegular

        And many of them actually do say it openly.

  • Turgid Love Skwerl

    BTW Washington Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, you voted to exempt yourself from this horrible aberration of healthcare?

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Kansas. That’s why you don’t leave things to the states.

    • jesterpunk

      Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, basically all the red states.

    • snark-lurker

      and why we cannut have nice things

    • LadyLaz

      Louisiana is my favorite effed up state.

  • Lefty Wright

    I feel sorry for the kid. He has two pre-existing conditions. Down syndrome and an asshole for a mother. At least he will not be penalized on his health insurance because of the second one.

  • rebecca

    what, no comment on my forthcoming granddaughter whom they are naming TALLULAH???

    It’s like I don’t even know you all anymore!

    • LadyLaz

      Sadly, all I kept pulling was Maisy…. Maisy and TAllulah are the very bestest friends.

      Need to stop drinking so early….. TTTAllluuuulllaah.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      I must be sleepy; I didn’t realize you even mentioned an actual granddaughter-to-be. Sorry, and Molotov, and I knew a girl named Belva, so things could be worse.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      I’s sorry, miz Bankhead.

      EDIT: And congrats for real! Wasn’t sure that was a real thing.

      • Prexisting Condition Jack

        “I lived through Tallulah Bankhead and the death of Vaudeville. I don’t scare easy.”– Ben Green Magic

    • LadyLaz

      Wait, you mean you ARE going to have granddaughter??? Well d@mn woman, congratulations. I am sure that the fine Donna Rose will be a marvelous auntie :)

    • NastyBossetti

      I thought that was a hypothetical future granddaughter, not an actual one. Congratulations!

    • snark-lurker

      who wood name a kid IN ALL CAPS?! and whut doz that mean? TALLULAH…is that a furrin name for TALL!

    • Yr. Gma

      Granddaughters are the most fun since daughters. (Well, more.) Tallulah is a great name, too.

      • Prexisting Condition Jack

        You’re a cool grandma! I wish my grandma had been like you, but I had the mean grandma. The nice grandma died before I was born.

        • Yr. Gma

          That is very sad. But I guess I had a mean grandma in addition to the one I worshiped, but the mean (allegedly) one died when my father was a kid, so I never got the chance to find out for myself.

          • Prexisting Condition Jack

            I think we all have a super great grandma and a mean one. Mrs. Jack says she had a mean one and a cool one.

    • jesterpunk

      Congratulations, I thought it was a hypothetical granddaughter.

    • YayConspiracy

      Well, you didn’t even send me an email about it. Sure I get a thank you note when I send (admittedly) a small amount of money. But other than that? Deafening silence. And now I supposed to congratulate you?

      (I am really happy for you, though. I, for one, like Tallulah.)

    • MynameisBlarney

      Granddaughter?
      But you is just a youngin!

      • Lance Thrustwell

        There’s a variation of a common acronym (rhymes with “spilf”) I’m tempted to use here, but I’ll refrain, in an effort to maintain the illusion that I have good taste.

      • rebecca

        we are the oldest parents and the youngest grandparents. it’s weird.

        • rumsey

          I have a 28-year-old daughter and an eight-year-old great-grand-daughter. All in different states, so little explaining needed.

    • Jenny

      Yay grandbabies are more fun!

    • Prexisting Condition Jack

      I wuz gonna! Just didn’t get around to it yet. Still reading!

      Anywhoze, malatov. Likiam! To life! Shomer shabbos!

    • Nockular cavity

      I assumed she was an imaginary future Lady Ms. Donna Rose spawn. Sorry!

      • Nockular cavity

        And congratulations!

      • valgalky23

        I did too. And congrats to grandma!

    • LucindathePook

      Have you met the queen, the rulah, Tallulah
      For that gal Tallulah I would fight a duela,
      I would climb a hillah, I’ll paddle to Priscilla,
      But this is getting sillah, I’m getting lots of thrillah, Tallulah
      When she starts to lock on to a man to love she wants to fricassee
      No one doing the hula, can do what Tallulah can do to me.
      From I’ll Take Tallulah, lyric by Yip Harburg
      Sung by Frank SInatra

    • Maria Sewell

      Congrats! Some of my most precious moments include watching my granddaughter really push my kid’s buttons… Enjoy!

  • peteywheats

    Nazis Lie.

  • jowgajen
  • trusts the American people — not the federal government — to make the best decisions for themselves and their families.

    Funny how untrustworthy the federal government is when Republicans are controlling it.

    • Also, that’s a damned weird dichotomy, where State governments are “the people” while the Federal government is an entity unconnected to anyone, even though representatives in both are elected similarly.

    • laineypc

      All those Canadians and Brits and Australians really feel tyrannized by how government makes all their health care decisions for them.

      • I remember when “American exceptionalism” was supposed to mean that America did stuff better than the rest of the world, instead of the reverse.

  • Me not sure

    After her sterling State of the Union rebuttal a few years ago, you would have thought that she would have learned to sit in the back of the room and be quiet.

    • jesterpunk

      I dont remember her rebuttal, I remember little Marco being really really thirsty in his though.

      • ariel_gee_398

        Well, she managed to look at the right camera, not drink awkwardly and frequently, or praise the government’s response to Katrina, so it was a rousing success by Republican standards.

        • jesterpunk

          Amazing how low the bar is for republicans. A Tardigrade can walk over it without tripping.

      • Me not sure

        Not remembering is an excellent illustration of its impact.

  • Beowoof14

    I remember her giving the State of The Union rebuttal, and thinking then what privileged lying asshole. And she is doing the same shit here. Saying one thing then doing the exact opposite. I am on your side, till you turn around and I can stick this big Bowie knife right in your ass.

  • Nick Scroggs

    Watching press briefing right now, Sarah Huckabee Sanders keeps dodging the questions and praising Trump to do a ton of stuff.

  • exinkwretch

    CMR’s subtext: “I’ll have a fat Congressional paycheck or pension plus benefits for life. That’s if I don’t lose an election or quit for a seven-figure K Street job. So me and my kids are all set. Everyone else can go fuck themselves.”

    • Miles Monroe

      Also, “We fixed it so this law doesn’t change anything for us congress-tools, so we’ll still have the full healthcare for life–as in, even after we leave office–that we’ve always had, but which is somehow too good for you insignificant proles, because FY,TW.”

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Since I lost my insurance when I was fired, I’m afraid to go anywhere or do anything. I could get struck by a meteor or attacked by a bear. Now, the house is probably gonna collapse on me.

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      Your computer might explode and decapitate you first. There’s always that!

      • snark-lurker

        that would be the way to go–when finished with pron of course

      • Mr. Blobfish

        Well, thank you Mary Sunshine.

        • Ms.MLG on Maui

          Always glad to cheer you up! ;)

        • snark-lurker

          ain’t she sweet?

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            Like honey. Like sugar. Like candy. Candy laced with broken glass!

          • snark-lurker

            hey i eated a peace of you one time

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            Lucky boy!

          • snark-lurker

            yes i am & i know it! : )

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Hey, don’t get my hopes up!

    • Alan

      Your fault. You got fired so meh, you don’t deserve to be healthy. Should have been more virtuous.

      • Should have saved up a few million dollars for health emergencies while employed. But no, had to buy an iPhone.

        • redarmyzombie

          Really, why can’t they just borrow $20,000 from their parents and make their *own* employer insurance…

        • Alan

          Could have skipped lunch too.

    • LadyLaz

      Damn. Sorry you got fired man. Here’s hoping you land somewhere good soon.

      • Mr. Blobfish

        The firm is saying I was fired for misconduct, so I had to plead my case to Unemployment today. Which isn’t true. Plus, the person they just hired is half my age and probably makes half of what I was making. They were looking to dump salary. I’m going to the EEOC and claim age discrimination then sue the fuckers.

        • LadyLaz

          Yeppers, just meet all your deadlines. There are all sorts of special statutory deadlines around those types of actions.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          I had something very similar happen to me when I was much younger. An employment lawyer told me “you probably won’t win, but just take them to unemployment court for your self esteem.” Luckily my employer was an incompetent idiot, and couldn’t even lie very well. So I won, and I spent six months living off of unemployment and having the time of my life. Normally I would have had another job within two weeks, but I just wanted to bleed my employer as a “thank you” for being such a prick, since I knew it would kill him to pay out unemployment insurance for six months.

    • ariel_gee_398

      Losing employment means you can get health insurance off the exchange outside of the normal enrollment period, with subsidies if you qualify.

    • VirginiaLady

      Just wait until the bear is asleep and shoot it. Good luck on the unemployment case!

  • sgt. jmk of the résistance

    What is her middle name, Grandma Trix???? Tallulah WHAT?

    And how could you expose an innocent child to the idiocy that is Cathy McDippy Rodgers?

  • Jenny

    The only thing scarier than putting your life in the hands of the federal government, is putting your life in the hands of the Texas government.

  • YayConspiracy

    They can’t even fake likability.

  • Prexisting Condition Jack

    So, here’s the dealio folks. I’ve been in medical care myself for as long as I can possibly remember. I dropped out a few times to try and live life outside of seeing doctors and taking a lot of high risk medications. I took jobs, even tried to enlist in the Navy.

    Still, I had medical issues. I never have been able to work in a meaningful way and never able to have private insurance because I was high risk and had preexisting conditions.

    When Cathy McMorris talks about her son’s dowqn syndrome and wants to bring us all back to the 1970’s where that kind of healthcare is concerned, this is what she wants for her son. This is Bryce Hospital. It was in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1ae36e5564fb6ee580fd23d48dd090ae1f8e6296b59c42182a070de150726d94.jpg

    So that’s the reality of what they want us all to go back to. Wholesale incarceration of people like her own son. Let that sink in for a second.

    • LadyLaz

      My mom was put in a place like that as a child. It nearly killed her. She has CP.

      I will always love Teddy Kennedy for his championing of the ADA.

      • Prexisting Condition Jack

        My wife has a sister put in some place in Jersey. She had down syndrome and nobody knows where she is anymore., A lot of people just got lost in the system.

        That’s what they used to call “some place”. It’s scary as hell and wasn’t that long ago.

      • Prexisting Condition Jack

        Me too! We’ve come a long way since Willowbrook, thanks a lot to the ADA.

  • BigBuck

    Hear! Hear!

  • Manhattan123

    One line alone in her diatribe of lies should be roundly mocked and she and her ilk should be made to answer for: “A federal one-size-fits-all approach to health care isn’t the answer.”

    Why the fuck not?

    Why should some poor sap be punished because they had the misfortune to be born in Alabammy or Mississippi instead of New York or California?

    What the fuck is wrong with the Republican party? They weren’t always insane.

    • h4rr4r

      I was not aware people were not allowed to leave their birth states. The real problem is those Alabammy legal policies that don’t cover anything can now be sold in civilized states.

      Look at the president, now realize he is a Republican. Boom, just explained it.

      • Prexisting Condition Jack

        Well, that’s a bit tricky really. I was born in Alabammy, I hated Alabammy with a passion but I couldn’t afford to move. I was a poor and therefore stuck where I was at.

        We (my wife and I) moved to the coast. It’s not a lot better, but it’s not so bad. Still cost all our savings to get here and I am still having a hard time finding mental health care here.

        Legally, I was allowed to leave my birth state. Logistically, I wasn’t.

        • h4rr4r

          So what you are saying is we need a federal program to move refugees from the south. I could see that, so long as they don’t have any ties to southern terrorist groups. We would have to vet them pretty aggressively.

          • Choosymom

            Build a wall!!1!

          • generalleeme

            Or just finish the 1st Civil War…

          • Prexisting Condition Jack

            Only ties I have are to the Democratic Party, which is considered a terrorist group by wingnuts in red states.

            I swear, it’s easier to say you’re a child molester than a democrat in these states. Maybe because most of the dixie wavers are child molesters.

        • marxalot

          I was born in Texas. Do you know how hard it is to get out of Texas, just from a practical standpoint? It takes 24 hours in basically any direction, and then you’ve got an even chance of being in Arkansas, so you have to be able to keep going. I get you.

      • VirginiaLady

        Kinda hard to do if you’re a few hours old and hooked up to life support.

      • merty

        Maybe if quality of life was more consistent across the country, instead of just on either coast then people wouldn’t have to move out of their home state, and there wouldn’t be “brain drain” in every dinky little town. Every little town might not be “dinky” and people might actually want to live there or stay there.

        • h4rr4r

          We should be in favor of that though. No point in spreading humans out to make services more expensive and harder to provide.

          • merty

            Humans are already spread out, so…?

          • h4rr4r

            Why make the problem​ worse instead of better? Little towns shuttering should be celebrated. It saves resources and improves lives.

          • merty

            Ummmm. I think it goes back to the original comment, some people are too poor to move. How does it improve lives if small towns are shuttered?
            I’m on board with less sprawl but I don’t see US politicians jumping at the chance to rezone or whatever to fix it.

          • h4rr4r

            I really do want a federal program to help people relocate. I have relatives who from lack of opportunities in part from rural living have had opiate addictions and jail sentences. They really just about had nothing else to do.

            If these small towns go away and people move to places of higher density then they can get better jobs​, services, and opportunities

          • merty

            I see. I feel for them, that is awful. Do you think they would move though even if the govt paid them too? Maybe if they’d had opportunities earlier in life, starting in elementary school and continuing to high school, maybe they would have had a reason to leave by their own volition? Have you read Hillbilly Elegy? The author talks about similar issues.

          • h4rr4r

            I am not sure what opportunities can be offered. In elementary school kids don’t know any better.

            I have not, but I have read about it. It matches these folks to a T. Their mother has never worked for more than a few months at a time. She went from one government program to another, always finding newer scams. She abused her pain killers given to her for health problems that were always the kind of thing you can’t​ see on any kind of scan. Their father was no angel, he drank too much and had was quick to anger. However he worked 70+ hour weeks, and never laid a hand on his wife or children. He was driven to make sure his kids had a better life, when he died so did the chances of that. The kids eventually dropped out of school and ended trying to keep a home that had been paid off with life insurance then remortgaged to give their mother spending money. It has nearly gone for tax auction several times. I wish it would. That might make them leave

            At some point I think eminent domain should be used to close these failing towns. They are not the only victims of that area. Every week more kids OD, and we wring our hands and say “what can we do”, when the answer stares us in the face.

            These are the shiftless poor that then blame Obama for not having jobs. I have seem them lose jobs, fairly well paying jobs with multiple times the minimum wage and full benefits just because they did not feel like working. In 2017 a highschool dropout and felon is not exactly a prime hiring candidate. Yet they squander what opportunities are there.

            I have offered both of them a free place to stay in a city, free transportation here, a bus pass and no rent until they find a job. Each on had an interview with my employer setup for them. Sure it was a call center job, scheduling service appointments, not scamming or selling anything. My wife started in that call center and now makes the median US wage. It took her less than 5

            At some point I begin to run low on empathy. I am frankly glad they can’t vote.

          • LadyLaz

            I know what you mean. There is a good chunk here also.

          • merty

            I’ve seen a similar situation with some of my relatives in my parents’ generation, most of them have passed away from complications from alcohol abuse. Their children, who are my age, are doing pretty well in spite of their difficult upbringing. They all grew up about 10 minutes outside of a major east coast city, but their mindset is what I call ‘small town.’ They don’t ever leave their neighborhood, an area of about 5 square miles. They have no curiosity about what lies outside of their tiny world, they think maybe they’re not worthy on some level? I don’t know… but when my family used to visit them it was like we were aliens or something. So even though she was right near a relatively big city, the best decision my mom made was the get the hell out of that whole area.

            It’s interesting though, I’ve read other things about the rust belt &/or poor white people, and the writers usually were able to escape the area and a similar fate; they are the most critical of the mentality of the people still there because of their own experience.

            I think what it comes down to is whether or not people believe that they are victims, or that they are entitled to certain things. My view, as a typical liberal, is that people need a hand up out of poverty but how do we balance that with helping them see that they also need to take responsibility for themselves? Seems like politicians on either side oversimplify the solutions–it’s either the ‘nanny state’ or it’s like the ‘Hunger Games.’ There must be a middle ground. I think there is also an existential component–do people feel that they have a reason to live? If not, they will just commit suicide slowly with drugs or alcohol.

          • h4rr4r

            I live in Buffalo. 20 years ago I would have agreed about rust belt white poverty here. These days things have improved massively.

            Those folks are still around but fewer and farther in between.

            What is really amazing is the immigrants who have actual reasons to feel dispair. They really are recreating neighborhoods.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and purity tests happened to the GOP

    • laineypc

      The entire government is balls deep in insurance company money and control.
      The Republican party thinks it has to maintain ideological purity on everything fucking thing because God (and their rabid Christian base) will be sad if they don’t.

      What I haven’t seen lately is anyone talking about the feds getting more involved in price regulation of health providers and pharma. Wildly disparate hospital fees, crazy drug prices and overprotective patent laws…insurers surely wouldn’t mind having the getting some government interference in THAT!

    • mike_silva

      No, really, they were always this insane.

      I dare you to point to a time when their policy ideas weren’t based on complete utter bullshit or bigotry. Go ahead and try.

      This is like remembering the 1950s were some golden age. While helpfully ignoring brown people and women were fucked.

  • Relativicus

    Sure, maybe she was a bit inartful, but really all she is saying is “If I can afford health insurance, why can’t you?”

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      In the immortal words of Michelle Caruso Cabrera (dumbest bitch on CNBC), circa 2008, “if the middle class are losing their homes, why don’t they just sell their stocks to pay their mortgages?”

      • chortlingdingo

        Did anyone inform her that most middle class people don’t own stocks?

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          Nope, and my jaw literally dropped when I saw her say that. It was truly a “let them eat cake” moment.

  • Nick Scroggs

    Press briefing over, something about Syria and health care3 being a victory for American people, Australia’s got universal health care, and I’m wondering if this is how the Bolsheviks began, just, idiots being elected and doing nothing, if this is the very first step toward an authoritarian revolution to stop an authoritarian government. Also, hotel internet is really slow.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Well, it’s pretty much how the French Revolution began, borrowing and spending like there’s no tomorrow and ignoring the needs of the people as opposed to the French military industrial complex. Shit gets real when heads start rolling around in wicker baskets.

      • clairence

        I’d like to think in 21st century USA shit gets real long before that starts happening.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I think in a few years, after nobody can afford healthcare, and the rich are riding around in solid gold cars because they’ve run out of things to spend money on, the only thing that’s going to unify the country is a wish to see all these rich fucks swinging in the breeze.

        • laineypc

          And if that happens and we get unified and actually start to fix things, you know who is going to take credit for that? The one who poured gasoline on the fire.

        • LadyLaz

          Honestly yes

  • La forza del resistino

    Add ‘states can best run healthcare knowing the needs of their citizens’ to ‘we need a businessman to run govt’ as phrases that make me stabby. Do some virus’ or bacterias, or like me, refuse to go to Alabammy?

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Once again, these stupid gits don’t understand shit about risk pools and insurance.

      • h4rr4r

        Yes, they do.
        They understand it all fine. They just say that for the rubes.

        She knows what she is saying and that the end result is tax cuts for the rich.

        Why even pretend that she does not know?

  • LadyLaz

    Here is the real question: if the federal government is so bad, why is the state government better?

    • Prexisting Condition Jack

      Because “Segregation now! Segregation Tomorrow! Segregation for ever!”

      • Paul Dietzel

        “Segregation for ever!”Actually that would be “Segregation fuh evah!”;
        had to put the Wallace accent in theyah fuh ya.

        • Prexisting Condition Jack

          I couldn’t even. Hated that guy and hope he’s burning in a hell made just for everyone like him.

    • VirginiaLady

      Uhh, because pot is legal in some of them? That’s it.

    • natoslug

      Because I live in California, and the Republicans here are relatively powerless and haven’t had the chance to fuck things up too badly for a while? Other than that, I got nothing. So hoping that CA’s single-payer plan goes through . . .

      • LadyLaz

        California is lovely.

      • redarmyzombie

        Literally, almost all our major problems went away the moment we stopped humoring Republicans…

    • chortlingdingo

      And don’t forget that local governments are only better as long as they don’t try to do anything that the state officials don’t like.

  • Nick Scroggs

    And now some conservative radio host named Steve Deace is talking on MSNBC, and cannot play any videos on this computer.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    No one every clamed the ACA was perfect, but the AHCA is much, much worse than anything Obama came up with, so this bitch can just stick it where the sun don’t shine and spin.

    • natoslug

      I agree. However, shouldn’t we be pounding it into everyone’s noggins that this is TrumpCare/RyanCare, just as the ACA, which actually made things marginally better, is ObamaCare?

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Trumpdon’tcare.

        • Amy!

          I like DonTCare. Includes both of the twerp’s names and a double meaning. But it’s kinda petty and prolly harder to understand, maybe.

      • Viktor DoKaren

        TrumpDoesn’tCare. GOPdon’tCare.

    • h4rr4r

      That is only true if you think the idea here is to give people health care.

      The ACA was designed to make insurance companies rich and cover most folks at the same time.

      The ACHA is designed to offer tax cuts to the wealthy, reduce insurance costs for the healthy folks to get their votes and kill off the sick.

      If the ACHA is enacted it will be very good at its design goals.

  • Rachel Book Harlot

    I’m sure this will go over well with her constituents at the next town hall meeting.

    • doingthis1moretime

      What townhall meeting? These cock wombles stopped doing townhalls when they started getting told off for what they were doing, showing that they don’t care what their constituents want unless the constituent wants exactly what the politician is getting paid to do.

      • clairence

        I heard more than one townhall where the Rep said basically, “you didn’t vote for me anyway. So I don’t really represent you.”

        • LadyLaz

          And that is the problem right there.

      • generalleeme

        McMorris only holds telephone town halls where each call is screened and then she answers with what ever she wants with no follow-up. Cowardly and quite sanitized.

  • marxalot

    I like how Trix’s grand daughter is named Tallulah.
    Fun fact: Kelly Sue deConnick (she of Bitch Planet fame) has a daughter named Tallulah. The name is due for a comeback.

    • Cliff Hendroval

      Tallulah? Gosh!

  • clairence

    “access” “access”
    We all have “access” to insurance the same way we all have “access” to Mar a Lago.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      And to yachts. And Maseratis. And Ivanka’s hoo-hah.

    • laineypc

      If you don’t like your plan you can move to another state!

  • mardam422

    I cannot WAIT for the CBO score on this monstrosity. The wailing and gnashing of teeth should be epic.

    • Contemplative Ron

      But enough about Paul Ryan.

  • Hanaka

    As a mama of a baby girl with down syndrome, I would like to teach my beautiful wonderful baby to punch this lady right in the face.

    • Viktor DoKaren

      Well, maybe just to vote her out of office or not elect her in the first place or run for office. ;)

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    First off, America, I’m sick of hearing about your dumb, sick babies. If they were all born as cute, healthy and charming as Donna Rose was, people would want to help pay for their health care. Have better babies, America!!!

    • chicken thief

      Hold on a gall dern minute there, V & P – some of them ugly sick little shits grow up to become the Attorney General of these glorious United States. Or Elmer Fudd. But I repeat myself…

  • gallbladder

    No low is too low for these fucking barbarians.

    • C4TWOMAN

      Barbarian libelz!

  • Repukkkes Suck

    The question arises again: is she stupid, is she evil or a bit of both? Fuck these people.

    • C4TWOMAN

      Stupid and self deluded?

      • h4rr4r

        Smart and evil.

        These words will convince rubes, while the tax cuts will benefit her masters.

    • Alan

      All of them Katie.

  • P S

    give it up man…they will do what they want…say what they need to say…and still win in the next election. we all know it.

    • h4rr4r

      Troll-lolololo

      • P S

        Look I hate these guys but the fix is in. They have control of the election process. There is no stopping it.

        • h4rr4r

          Concern troll is concern trolling.

          • C4TWOMAN

            More like nihilistic troll is nihilistic.

          • ahughes798

            Nihilist troll is probably closer to the truth.

          • yup totally agree. i will say it again for good luck: we are not taking back the house and i hope to any sky god you believe in that i am completely wrong.

        • LadyLaz

          Yeah, seriously, we should give up. Just like those civil rights activists.

          • P S

            Nope. Just make sure you vote. Help others to vote. Put energy there.

          • LadyLaz

            Then stop discouraging people by saying, “nothing you can do.” The one thing we don’t need more of is apathy.

          • C4TWOMAN

            Right! Because democracy is something that only happens every 4 years during the presidential election!

        • C4TWOMAN

          You’re right. We’re doomed. So how’s you’re Canadian immigration application going?

  • VirginiaLady

    Just called my doctor to get a refill on my old people meds. Talked to the receptionist and she said they were swamped with calls for refills. The first time I couldn’t get through the lines were overloaded. Got a could not complete your call at this time message.
    People are freaking out and getting meds they were putting off before. Our government is terrorizing it’s citizens. Maybe now my bass ackwards county will change? Haaa!

    • LadyLaz

      maybe all those old people need to switch parties

      • VirginiaLady

        But I don’t wanna be a member of the Gross Old Pricks party!

        • LadyLaz

          LOL. Not you. I meant the ones calling in. Since old people generally, but not always, seem to vote republican.

  • chortlingdingo

    Didn’t they include a little section that exempts members of Congress?

    • Viktor DoKaren

      Yep. So her son will be just fine. And that’s all that matters to them.

  • Portia McGonagal

    Oh she’s our state’s very own Sarah Palin. Well the other half of the state. The Eastern part where all the hard working real ‘murcans we Seattle area snobs support w/ our tax base are.

  • chicken thief

    “Our plan allows states to serve and provide financial support directly to vulnerable populations,…”

    How gracious of you, Cathy! You “allow” states to do that?! You probably also allow states to just give money away if someone asks for it, and allow companies to just give their products away if they wanna!

    The reality is, you ignorant slut, states have no more motivation to mandate it than you, who just undid a mandate, do.

    So those vulnerable people were protected before you voted. You cast your dumb fucking tax cut vote. Now those vulnerable people are at the mercy of their state governments.

    How can you not see that as YOU.FUCKING.THEM?

    • Contemplative Ron

      It’s a skill that Reptards learn when they join the party.

  • penalcolony

    Shorter Rodgers: Lesbians often have normal maternal instincts, but closeted ones not so much.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    As an until-recently resident of Washington, I am pleased that the rest of the country finally gets to see what an ignorant, lying asshole Cathy McMorris-Rogers is. Now, if there was just some way to inflict Dino Rossi and Tim Eyman on the rest of you.

    • Zombishroom

      And she has nothing to worry about since Washington State is somewhat progressive when it comes to health insurance. And let’s talk about fucking Tim Eyman.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Only if we’re gonna talk about feeding him to an orca.

        • Zombishroom

          Excellent idea!

    • brucej

      Please don’t, or we’ll send you Jeff Flake, Andy Biggs or Martha “Lets’ get this fucker done” McSally, my own soon-to-be ex-representative if I have any say over the matter.

      • Ωbjectifier

        Andy Biggs voted against. Surprised the shit outta me.

        • brucej

          My gob, it is smacked.

          Biggs was a Standard GOP Asshole when he was House Leader here in AZ.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    My health insurance premiums this year are $8,640. Since I’m in the old people category, maybe next year I’ll get lucky and get to pay two or three times that.

    • Alan

      $18,000 here for the family. So I go without. I figure my kids will live longer anyway.

  • Rosslynite

    Oh and don’t forget they put a clause in the law that says even if individual states get rid of coverage for pre-existing conditions, it doesn’t apply to members of congress or their staff. F*cking a**hats.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    If her dumbfuck supporters believe a word of this, they’re even dumber than I believed – which hardly seems possible.

  • TheGrandWazoo2
  • Contemplative Ron

    … says the woman who voted so that she and her colleagues weren’t bound by the provisions of the AHCA.
    Hypocrite much, you vicious bitch?

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      “It’s terrific, it’s wonderful, it covers everybody and it costs less . . . but fuck no, WE don’t want to be stuck with it. It’s for YOU people.”
      –Every fucking Republican cocksucker in Congress.

      • OddMan

        And every Democrat.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          Democrats don’t want it passed, they just thought it passing the House would help their reelection efforts.

          Although interestingly I never saw a Democrat on TV saying they wanted it to pass. Make of that what you will.

          • LadyLaz

            They still voted against against it.

        • Biel_ze_Bubba

          Democrats, however, are honest about the fact that the AHCA is shit: “We want no part of it, and neither should you.”

        • Rosslynite

          Not one democrat voted for TrumpCare.

          • OddMan

            Every Democrat did vote to make sure congress was not covered by the provisions of the AHCA. They could have taken the moral high ground and voted to be covered by this abomination knowing they would not win the vote.

    • OddMan

      That was an interesting vote, they just barely passed the Dump Health Care Act, yet the vote to make sure the Congress was not covered was unanimous and bipartisan. Every Democrat, every Republican voted ‘No, this bag of worms does not apply to me’.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        You seem upset by this. I’m curious, what would you have done?

        • OddMan

          It is not the most important part of this fiasco, but I hope I would have vocally said, ‘if we foist this piece of shit on the American people then I want Congress to have the same’.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            I’m diabetic and asthmatic (which is a big deal because I need a special inhaler) so my perspective is different. Mainly, I don’t want the people trying to help me to die.

      • LadyLaz

        Well to be fair, the democrats also voted against this bag of worms because it sucks

  • timpundit

    Yeah. She sees her own job ending in about a year and a half.

  • Viktor DoKaren

    Sometimes I wonder if they’re that stupid or think other people are that stupid. I don’t **care. I just want them to shut the fuck up and get the hell out of politics. But I do wonder.

    • mancityRed6

      they get called out on their bullshit so little, they can say pretty much whatever they want and the right amount of spin means people will believe it.

  • Kristine McRae

    This is my horrible representative. I call her Cathy McMorris Rubberstamp. She has never seen a Republican proposal she didn’t love. She’s firmly in the pocket of the party, and gives not one fig about her constituents, unless they are rich, white, men. Repeal and Replace? Yes! McMorris Rubberstamp and her cohorts in Congress. Matthew Sutherland 2018!!!!

    • mike_silva

      Run against her, so I don’t have to move from Seattle to Spokane to do it for you.

    • generalleeme

      Although I don’t disagree with your interest in getting rid of McMorris its time to be realistic. It ain’t happening unless someone has access to a whole lot of cash and/or a significant amount of incriminating evidence. Evidence of her involvement in running the Putin/Trump 2016 campaign might not be even in such a strong and secure Republican gerrymandered district. If its Sutherland he is going to need some real sophisticated help and cash.

  • Poly_Ester

    GOP consensus — True Americans don’t get sick

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    To quote Eminem:

    I got 99 problems and a bitch ain’t one
    She’s all 99 of ’em, I need a machine gun

  • Eo Raptor

    I just saw a clip, on local news. I don’t even know what the story was about, because what grabbed all my attention was a Rethuglican saying, “I have my insurance, and I don’t have to pay a dollar to insure anybody else!” And that right there is pretty much all you need to know about opposition to Obamacare. It’s not about “freedom of choice,” States’ Rights, or any of the other mindless platitudes spewed by the Rethuglican party; it’s about the Ayn Randian nirvana of, “I’ve got mine, screw you.”

    I don’t know how we got this way, because what I remember of my younger days, the idea was to help your neighbors, even the black ones living downtown. I am fairly confident, however, that this isn’t going to get better until tens – hundreds of thousands of people, wake up and grow a conscience.

    • Wellstone En Resistencia, Coño

      It’s the prosperity gospel and the notion that you can be a dick and teh Jeebus will reward you for it. When you hear “Not perfect but forgiven,” that means “I can be a douchebag and not worry about it.” Very aynrandian indeed. That cunt was a monster.

    • mancityRed6

      they have no idea how insurance works.
      it’s called a pool, you put in your money and you take out money when they allow you to (to each according to their needs, huh?)
      the less they let you take, the more profit they make.

      • Eo Raptor

        That’s another thing. Just how stupid do you have to be to see the similarity — to the point of congruency — between health insurance and auto insurance. Sure, I don’t like spending money for something that might never happen. Nor do I like the notion that a portion of my insurance premium goes to lower the cost of insurance for the red-neck-roll Bubba, down the street, who thinks the floorboard in his jacked-up pickup is to stop the accelerator from being mashed into the next county. But, I’ve always bought it, and always paid for it, and on a few occasions was very glad to have it.

        In principle, there is absolutely NO difference between auto insurance and health insurance.

        • i used to get this (reverse) argument all the time from people who were pissed about signing up for the ACA or getting the fine. they’d say ‘well i don’t have to drive a car’. and i’d say: exactly, you do however have to have what we call ‘health’.

  • mancityRed6

    This is the quote that got me:
    “Our plan accomplishes this mission in two key ways: by guaranteeing that access to health coverage can’t be denied for people with preexisting conditions, and by empowering states to innovate with new models for better patient outcomes at a lower cost.”
    access won’t to coverage won’t be denied.
    access.
    It’s funny, there’s a $250K Mercedes literally up the highway from me. Unless they just won’t let me in the door, my _access_ to that car won’t be denied. Just like with health insurance, what would keep me away from it is my ability to pay for it.
    What truly horrible spin she weaves, and yet, people will believe it.

  • Cogswell, Precious Snowflake

    I look forward to watching this creature’s soul burn in hell right beside my godless heathen ass.

  • Erick the Kracker

    The woman has a Vagenda of infanticide.

  • whitroth

    Women Wonketteers: asking permission here… can I say SHE’S A FUCKING DISGRACE AS A WOMAN, AS WELL AS A FAILURE AS A HUMAN BEING?

    I’ll bet she’s one of those lizard people in human disguise…..

    • TakingAmes

      Yes. Yes you can.

      • whitroth

        Thanks to both of you.

    • Finnabar87

      I’m cool with that.

    • Red Bird Ω

      She doesn’t care because she has good insurance from her job and she has enough money to afford proper care for her child.

      • bettycat

        Especially since they exempted members and staff from the law.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      I’m sort of ok with that, although it’s redundant. What with women being human beings.

      And I concur on the lizard thing.

    • just because we have the x chromosone doesn’t mean we’re immune from the asshole chromosone.

  • whitroth

    Hey, kiddies, here’s a thought: her child should be taken away from her, because she’s *obviously* an unift parent, given that she wants to fuck every other handicapped kid in the country.

  • mfp

    i’ll give the despicables this much…they’re all sticking to the same talking points, wrong as they may be—-‘states know better’–‘obamacare collapsing’–‘federal one-size approach doesnt fit everybody’, yadda-yadda-blahblahwoofwoof…same old shit for the rubes…never mind that whatever problems there are with obamacare, they created thru one means of sabotage or another AFTER the ACA was passed

    the all-time whopper of bullshit that makes me stabby as fuck is the one ms jr huckabee spouted from the spicey chair today about how ‘this president doesnt want to do this quickly, he wants to do it right, unlike the democrats with obamacare and how they rammed it thru’

    WHAT IN THE EVERLOVIN FUCK?….the democrats had nearly 100 hearings, for a 1000+ page bill, that took them nearly a year to get passed…these assholes cobble together a 100+ page trainwreck of a bill, cant get it right, cant get it passed the first time, make it more draconian and barely get it passed the second time because of psycho trump’s threatening and arm-twisting (and their own desparation for validation and a ‘win’) and it’s a complete and utter fucking disaster…all in the span of about 100 days

    there is no lie these mothafuckas wont tell to suck up to their owners and fuck the rest of us

    • kaydenpat

      Did anyone push back at Huckabee when she said that whopper? I’m sick of a press which says nothing to correct blatant lies.

      • mfp

        nope

  • Debra Dassow

    As someone who has negotiated contracts and dealt with private healthcare companies for decades, there is no way on our soon to no longer be green earth that this bill will lower premiums, lower deductibles, and provide better quality insurance for anyone, Sad.

  • unhipcat

    the good thing is that little cole will continue to be covered under Obamacare due to the special exemption to retain it for themselves that house gopers included in the bill

  • calliecallie

    I saw a thing on the Twitter last night that in addition to calling our senators early and often, we should also heap blowback on the rethuglicans in the house who voted for this pile of shit. Protest their offices, attend their townhalls, basically make so much noise that the senators can’t help but notice and think twice about what they’re going to do. Made sense to me. Time to right to my congressidjot again, not that he gives a shit what I think. Man, that guy’s an asshole.

    • kaydenpat

      Makes perfect sense to put maximum heat on the perpetrators of this atrocity which many of them didn’t even read before rushing to vote for.

      • calliecallie

        And no CBO score! Not one of them who voted for it without a CBO score can ever again call themselves “fiscally responsible.” Not one.

    • yes.

  • kaydenpat

    If House Republicans gleefully passing Trump Care doesn’t get people to turn against Republicans, nothing ever will. This is the GOP at its very worst.

    • Greyhame

      Somehow, it wall all become Obama’s fault before June.

      • kaydenpat

        They were so vocal about repealing the ACA to destroy President Obama’s legacy that I don’t think they can blame it on him. Their brain dead supporters, notwithstanding.

        • Greyhame

          I hope so, but I’m afraid they might manage to convince enough people that. oh no, it was actually Republicans somehow rescuing the public from this catastrophic healthcare situation (even though they’re the ones who deliberately created the catastrophe in the first place.) It’s basically how they operate.

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            That’s true, but wait until TrumpDon’tCare kicks in, especially in the already underserved rust belt and the deplorables really feel the bite. It’s gonna be hard for the GOP to live down their little victory party last night. Of course, by then the news cycle will have shifted a billion times and the morans will be distracted by emails or something.

    • they won’t see any effects (if there are any – and that’s still i hope a question) til after the mid terms.

  • roberteye

    NEW 7 scariest words: “We’re Republicans and we’re here to help”. HAHA! Cathy McHelmet Hair Rodgers (Liar-WA) will hopefully at long last get the boot up there in Blueshington.

    • generalleeme

      Not in Spokane with McRodger’s tightly gerrymandered GOP district. Her sinecure short of being on Putin’s re-election committee for Trump will keep her getting re-elected for a very long time.

  • parachihuahua

    She gave birth in 2007 while already covered by the premium insurance available to federal workers. That’s why she had no idea about would have been his fate when he turned 19 and would have been ineligible. She has no idea what insurance was like for the rest of the country, even if they had the ability to be covered through work, AND she had no idea what it was like to lose insurance and look COBRA in the face during the 2008 meltdown.

    • bettycat

      She also lives in Washington state where we have a good (Democratic) Insurance Commissioner, Governor & A.G., all of whom will ensure that we suffer the least amount possible under this stupid law. Try moving to Alabama Kathy and see how your kid’s insurance works.

      • parachihuahua

        Sometimes I wish that only these few would find out what it’s like to live with the decisions they make.

  • Greyhame

    This is great, right now I actually needed a summary list of all the reasons the ACA ended up sucking more than it should have (sabotage!).

    Certain conservative family members (who shall remain nameless) have been squawking and lamenting on social media about how Obamacare is almost exactly as terrible as Trumpcare. And gosh darn it, they just want a “free market” solution, bless their hearts. But anyway, I get the feeling we’re going to see this kind of false-equivalency argument pop up all over the place to rationalize the murdering of the ACA.

  • NotReallyHere

    Ben Stuckart for Congress!!!!!!
    http://www.benstuckart.com/

    He’s running against Cathy in 2018.

  • Mister Smith

    GOPigs are deplorable maggots.

  • SeeTrain65

    I liked her a lot more when she was known as “Who’s the only woman up there will all those white GOP idiots?” at McConnell’s old press conferences.

  • alpacapunchbowl

    I loved my Obamacare the first year. Granted, I got the subsidy because I was earning not many ameros. I then got a job and had employer-sponsored insurance for about a year. When that job shitcanned me I went to sign up for my sweet Obamacare. The premiums had gone up SO drastically, for super shitty plans to boot, I actually started crying. I also remarked to my boyfriend at the time that it was so bad that I suspected the insurance companies were using that as a tactic to undermine and basically kill the ACA.
    Sometimes I hate being right. Fucking fuckers. Between that and defunding Planned Parenthood, which saved my unemployed ass from either a lifetime of kidney dialysis or death back in 2000, it’s almost like the right wingers want me to die. Can’t imagine how I got that idea. I must just be hysterical. Typical woman!

    • Greyhame

      You can thank Marco Rubio for that, in his push to defund the risk corridors that were originally in the plan (that is, funding that had been promised to insurers as a buffer to help get through the transition phase was suddenly denied).

      Remember when all the nonprofit co-op insurers all shut down at once? Yeah, that was fucking Rubio & friends. I had to find a new provider myself, and premiums suddenly went up. Sabotage, fucking sabotage.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        Little fuckin weasel. If only he had spent more time riding his little choo choo train around the basement.

    • i actually don’t think it was the insurance companies. don’t get me wrong i hate them (and i work with the aca) and think they’re always out to make a buck. but i think they generally want the ACA to work and what greyhame says below is more accurate. (rubio and the risk pools. i’m really glad to see it’s starting to be talked about).

      also the ACA needs to increase both the penalty for not having insurance (increasing the risk pool with younger people) and increase the income level for subsidies (currently 400% of federal poverty level – i think it should be adjusted for inflation or something so folks get more help as premiums rise.).

      • alpacapunchbowl

        You would know much more than me! And I do realize that what I said sounds pretty conspiracy theoryish.
        They definitely don’t have clean hands though.

        • no it doesn’t sound like a conspiracy. ins companies are really really good villains. and they often are actual assholes. i fight with them constantly.

          but in the case of the ACA, it’s more complicated and there’s just so many moving parts in play: the gov’t, private ins companies, federal and state bureaucracies, the individual consumer market, etc. it’s a finely balanced thing.

          and part of that equation, the ins companies, respond to profit margins, risk pools and actuarial tables. they do not respond to us, the consumer. when things get out of whack, they respond as a for-profit entity. which brings us back to the point that republicans have sabotaged this from the word go. they have set out to make it fail. (which it is NOT btw. not yet).

          in general, the ACA was designed to harness the private ins market into the provision of universal health care. it was a bad idea IMHO, but bamz (or somebody) thought there was no way we could get single payer through.

          i wish we had single payer.

          • alpacapunchbowl

            Totally agree.
            And hopefully we’ll get there.

      • Lefty Wright

        I agree with raising the penalty for not carrying insurance. They also need to start actually enforcing it. They could also take some of the sting out of costs by subsidizing, maybe, up to 600% of poverty level, just not as much. I’m not sure on the exact percentages now, but at very low income levels, rates are limited to under 4% of income, rising to about 10% at 400% of poverty guidelines. Bump that up to 12% at 500% of poverty levels, 14% between 500% and 600%. So a single person making $70,000 a year would have a cap of about $820 a month. Pretty high, and that would only apply to older people since rates are lower when you are younger. But it is still significantly less than the $1,000 or $1,200 some people are claiming some 63 year olds have with no subsidy.

        • Gigglesnort

          First thing Trumpski did was issue an executive order ensuring minimal enforcement efforts for the individual mandate and giving wide latitude to grant waivers.

        • i like that – like the tax code.

          yeah, i’ve seen some awful premiums this year – esp. as you get close to 65. i had a 64 year old who smoked (killer in many ways) and i think the lowest premium she could get was like $1200. i’m in my 40’s and i don’t get tax credits. my premium is so high i COULD get an exemption (cheapest premium is over 9.5% of my income) BUT i bike everywhere and am not willing to take that chance.

          and i’m in cook county. we still have 3 insurers and 38 plans left.

        • Eo Raptor

          Gee, you can’t drive a car without auto insurance. But, require a person to get health insurance because they’re too stupid to realize how quickly an unanticipated medical crisis can ruin the rest of their lives? That’s tyranny, socialism, Jesus won’t stand for it-isim.

          Some people just don’t have the ability to think. They are NOT the majority, however. So, the problem is the majority who simply REFUSE to think, for who knows what reason.

    • this country says it’s about

      Yeah. Little Marco Rubio sponsored a bill which defunded the portion of the ACA compensating insurance companies for taking on folks with pre-existing conditions which has caused insurance companies to either raise premiums or bow out of the states where their costs were highest. Then the Republicans turn around and say Obamacare is a “failing.” Yup, thanks to their sabotage.

  • miss_grundy

    I guess this stupid cow can’t see beyond the tip of her nose that there are a lot of children and adults out there with Down’s Syndrome who develop health problems and will be seriously hurt by her decision. But since she probably gets lots of Ameros from lobbyists so that she will vote for their interests she isn’t worried. There aren’t enough bad things that can happen to this cow personally–and without the benefit of votes.

  • boredcatlady

    Ugh she suuuuuuuuuucks.

    (But I agree with Editrix that Kasich and Brewer did good and it helps to say so)

  • mike_silva

    Stupid or Evil?

    Why choose! With conservatives, and especially abysmal Cathy McMorris Rodgers, it can be both!

  • Husband Of Mrs God

    GOP did Munchausen’s on the ACA, back in 2010.

  • ChaCubed – one of 65,844,614

    American Healthcare Axe

  • BaTsHiT_cRaZy

    Grassroots Progressive fundraising has taken off immediately in the wake of the Trump/Republican People-Need-To-Die healthcare bill. In fact, fundraising records were smashed.

    #Republicans-Lose-House-2018

    • Tomm Undergod

      Now what is needed for everyone who cheers that news but was not part of it to go to one of the sites collecting funds for Ragnarok and donate so the next report is that the giving continues unabated! Everyone not already donating can begin at once. Giving, like voting, is not a spectator sport.

  • ralphteb

    I love the smell of rampant hypocrisy in the morning

    • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

      My cat just took a dump; it smells much better than her BS!

  • motmelere

    Remember how the next economic ‘bubble’ was going to be student loans? Pffft, those guys don’t have money! A healthcare bubble would pop all over your mom’s reverse mortgage quite nicely, though. Don’t you dare engage in class warfare by moralizing over this, <a href="it's just business"http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-2007-i-m-excited-housing-market-crash-n578761.

    • James

      Well, I didn’t get to go to college (lack of enough money to secure a loan), and no mortgage on my house, so I should be safe (unless some SovCit comes along and lays a lien on my house with paper terrorism).

      • motmelere

        SovCits not needed, we already have privateers (with bank papers!) ready to take your home even if you never had a mortgage.

        • James

          I never had a mortgage (paid cash), but I am ready to man the barricades against whatever bank might come along (SovCits in suits).

          We had an abstract done all the way back to the Louisiana Purchase on our house to make sure there were no taxes or liens against it.

  • Bettyjcotton

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    • Rickyphoo

      Oh, good, they have the $ behind the numbers again. I was afraid they were starting to figure out how written English worked.

      • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

        Still trying to figure out how one buys a new Range Rover for only $8752!

        • vivian

          You have to buy the Land Rover Range Rover and use Sorosbucks™.

      • Serolf Divad

        Google needs to simply their URL’s. I had to pay a guy $97 just to type that long mess into my browser.

  • i’mjustaskingthequestion

    Keep flogging that bullshit with that bullshit eating grin on your face you evil bitch. Your policies will steal the health away from millions of Americans. People will die because of what you are going. You are disgusting.

    • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

      Precisely.

  • Dick7s

    Wouldn’t it be great if you could just wish these assholes into the “cornfield”?

  • Schmogie

    Cathy is going to get smoked by former WA state representative Lisa Brown.

    • Gods, let’s hope.

    • eastcoastlib

      I wish I had faith in Americans to behave rationally but I do not. We live in a country dominated by ignorance and the cult of celebrity. We ( collectively) believe whatever bullshit spews forth from our TV sets and car radios. I fully expect Republicans to pick up seats in the midterms and for Trump to win a second term. One can argue about those predictions but you can’t say the country is not that stupid.

  • James Prokop

    Cathy, do you really believe your own BS or has Paul Ryan sent you out to peddle his? You deserve to be sent packing in 2018.

    • Marked Anthony

      Republicans believe thier own bs like no others.

    • Tina in Spokane WA

      She won 60% of the vote in this cherry red district. She’s not worried.

      • James Prokop

        No doubt,but why? Let me guess..why she is the perfect Conservative/Evangelical Girl. She does what the men tell her..why she even married a soldier boy…she’s what the old folks like…a real respectful girl. But, what about the rest of the folks with brains who don’t live in the 1950’s..can’t they vote someone else in?

        • Tina in Spokane WA

          Dems don’t even try very hard. We get some good candidates, but no backing. Maybe next year is the charm. On the state level, dems don’t even run in my legislative district.

  • Martin L

    Needless to say, Mrs McMorris is trying to spin chicken shit into chicken salad. If she had bothered to check into the history of insurance “high risk” pools– she would know that they’ve rarely been successful in covering those in high risk health categories–and at affordable premium rates. But what is she worrying about–she has Congressional government subsidized healthcare.

  • FortuneFavstheBold

    What also isn’t mentioned by Rodgers is that she is covered under Tricare, which is the military health care system, due to her husband. Her kid would always be taken care of, no matter what. She has some gall.

  • BaTsHiT_cRaZy

    “No district is off the table.”

    “Any Republican member of Congress in a seat that the president won by less than 10 points who isn’t concerned needs to be concerned.”

    Asked if he had read the entire health bill, Collins, R-Clarence, said: “I will fully admit that I did not.

    …………………………………………………………………………….

    The Democrats need 24 seats to recapture the House majority, and they believe the most straightforward path back to power is through the 23 Republican districts won by Hillary Clinton in November, as well as the dozens more where President Trump remains deeply unliked.

    • this country says it’s about

      How about the districts where there are plenty of low income people whose representative has basically shit on them? In talking about Trumpcare, T’s budget director talked about why should a single mom in Michigan or a coal miner in West Virginia pay for your prenatal care? – talking as if the tax cuts from this bill are going to them! Hah!
      Democratic candidates could reasonably ask why a single mom in Michigan or a coal miner in West Virginia should pay for yet another tax break for the already extremely wealthy by sacrificing a decent healthcare plan?

  • joejimtree

    I’m optimistic that these glib flippant conceited condescending liars are going to be worn the hell out in short shrift. Last night during a discussion of how the AHCA would gut treatment for veterans, she replied, in that 6 year old whine so frequently employed by Trump surrogates during the election, that the Democrats didn’t seem to have done so much for them before, and why wasn’t anyone focusing on that instead of on the woefully inadequate AHCA provisions.

    These kinds of statements sink like lead right now. It’s not clever or cute or funny or making fun of elitists, to cut health coverage. Everyone takes their health care seriously. I am praying that every Republican who voted for this has to reckon with angry constituents who won’t let them talk their way out of a hole.

  • Dave Boroughs

    Were she a complete idiot, one might understand. Instead, an Ikea box missing a bunch of screws.

  • angryspittle

    One could assume that she is the one with Down’s syndrome………….

    • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

      NO! I have never met a person living with DS who isn’t a happy, giving, caring individual. I don’t think I would use any of those adjectives to describe this woman.

      • angryspittle

        Major mea culpa, you are correct.

        I should have said Dunning-Kruger……

  • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

    Yeah, but as a member of Congress you have different insurance, don’t you? You lying, ignorant, hypocritical, mean, evil, fucking CUNT! Piss on you!!

  • bbayliss

    My goodness, they’re lying about it.
    Rep. Jason Lewis wrote me that he is “Keeping a campaign promise” and that “Obama care is collapsing”.
    “We also continue the important missions of protecting the vulnerable and ensuring that no-one can be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition.”
    His pants, they are burning up.

  • mary5920

    I would like to start a fire using peat in that fireplace behind her little chatting spot. After making sure the flue was nice and sooty.

    • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

      And closed?

      • mary5920

        That would be going too far. But lots of ashes and soot might tumble down the flue during her little fireside chat.

  • Mark Leitch

    Obamacare was never perfect, everyone knew that, but it was going to be a starting point to try and improve/fix a system in bad need of fixing; unfortunately Republicans never would allow those fixes. As expensive as it is, a national health system like Europe and Canada is the answer, yes, taxes go up, and yes it’s not a perfect system, but better than what we have in America.

  • Mark Leitch

    Maybe it’s time government employees STOP getting the best healthcare insurance possible, let everyone (including the elected officials) face the same challenges the rest of us do with securing adequate coverage at an affordable cost!

    • iceweasels

      The vast majority of government employees are administrators, and they are seriously underpaid for their education levels. If you’re talking Congressmembers, then I’m with you.

  • Bob Cleary

    I worked for 25 years for a health insurance company. There were two preexisting condition clauses. For large corporations it was “You are not covered for your first year of coverage for any condition diagnosed in the previous year.” This would be waved if had insurance during that previous year. For small groups and individual policies the “… Diagnosed in the previous year …” was replaced by “… could have been diagnosed in the previous year …”. The entire purpose of the preexisting clauses was to prevent people from getting insurance after they got sick. Either way, the preexisting condition restrictions were for only the first year of continuous coverage.

    • iceweasels

      It depends on what the preexisting condition is. I have a genetic predisposition to grown tumors in nerve centers, like the spinal cord or brain. Neurosurgery is incredibly expensive, and the risk I will develop another tumor is high. I haven’t been able to get affordable healthcare outside of work most of my life.

      • Bob Cleary

        The insurance company I worked for was “the insurance company of last resort” meaning we could not turn away sick people.

  • Jo Mathie

    I literally can’t understand American healthcare. It just seems so utterly inhumane.

    • beejeez

      Sounds like you understand it just fine.

    • Me too. Australian here and my family would have been bankrupted several times over – we have rotten luck. When my brother was in the critical care unit (we knew he was dying) I thought to myself imagine going through this and thinking “we will have to sell the house”. It just leaves me dumbfounded but incredibly resolute whenever our politicians even look at changes to our national health system.

      • Jo Mathie

        My Dad died of cancer when I was ten. He died at home. I still remember the sweet nurses who made everything less traumatic for my mum, my little brother and me. Grandma died last year and when her health deteriated the NHS brought in a bed and commode so that she could die in her home. Guess how much it cost along with all the hospital visits? Nothing. I work and pay taxes. I don’t mind if the money goes to other people who need it. I sat with a friend who got an abortion when we were both nineteen. She wasn’t judged or had to jump through legal hoops. I just feel sorry for Americans at the moment.

  • Serolf Divad

    She’s right. No one with money should have to face the prospect of her kid dying like the poors who don’t have enough income to prevent a lapse in coverage.

  • Diane

    Her son is eligible for SSI disability because he has a pre existing condition. She receives a monthly sum for his care and he gets health insurance. IF she applied for it. Did anybody ask her or Sarah Palin if they get that nice federal bonus for their kids?
    All paid by our taxes. It is a federal program.
    Who the hell is she kidding?

    • Hizzoner

      No she doesn’t. SSI is needs based and you have to be under a certain income level to qualify. Check http://www.ssa.gov for more into. When he turns 18, he may qualify but, if he has too many resources, he could still be ineligible. However, under the ACA, Junior could have stayed on Mom’s insurance until he was 26. Ironic really….

  • Scooby

    Translation: I live in a blue state that wouldn’t ever be stupid enough to waive out of pre-existing conditions plus I get a big tax break…its win – win!

  • Ducksworthy

    I was in a high risk pool for awhile. I paid 600 bucks a month for literally no usable health care coverage.

    • this country says it’s about

      Single payer is the only way to go.

    • chazmanr

      My stepfather paid over $25,000 per year after having a heart attack. The Good Ol’ Days. If he weren’t a lawyer making a decent living, he would be dead.

  • Jan Hutchinson

    She makes me more than mildly nauseous.

  • this country says it’s about

    This fountain of crap from Republicans is becoming so common I’m hardly surprised. She is joining her fellow Rep from Idaho in the long list of unfeeling a-holes in congress:
    Rep. Raul Labrador (R) Idaho has been quoted as saying, “Nobody dies because they don’t have access to health care.”
    He should tell that to the two sons of a food sever I worked with nine years
    ago. She was raising the boys on her own in Colorado on the paycheck from
    a small casino and was unable to afford the insurance premiums on the plan
    offered by our employer prior to ACA. She got insurance after the ACA was
    passed and shortly thereafter had a routine health checkup where it was
    discovered she had fairly advanced ovarian cancer. By the end of 2010 her
    two teen-aged sons had become orphans. Had she been able, prior to the
    ACA, to afford health insurance, her condition may well have been diagnosed
    earlier with a higher chance of surviving.

    Repeating this kind of tragedy over and over just so a few already rich people can save a few tax dollars will not make America great again.

  • Tina in Spokane WA

    World, this is my representative, Cathy McMorris-Stupid. Damn.

  • MAZS

    Ms. Rodgers proving you really can simultaneously hold two diametrically thoughts. Problem is she votes for the shitty one.

  • Weird Fishes

    How on earth is it possible for people to continue to believe this crap? Giving a pretty (and condescending) white lady pretty (and condescending) lines to say does not make her any more or less of a sympathetic (and condescending) figure. She has a hole for a soul; a vomitous caricature of person.

  • Panika MCD

    why is it that these people seem to think that states have not been allowed to innovate? that’s that whole 1115 waiver thing that states are always talking about. it does have limits like CMS has to approve your dumb plan and you have to agree that if certain thresholds in expanding access by number of people, expanding service areas geographically and improving health outcomes aren’t met, then you don’t get to do it. it’s like they don’t even talk to their state governments or think about how TIME WORKS–if BamzCare passed in 20TEN and certain provisions were effective immediately, but others trickled in, then the 20ELEVEN Maine program was allowed to exist under an 1115 waiver. it even showed that shitty ideas got a chance to fail. it’s like she just made the argument FOR BamzCare and that is why she voted AGAINST it.

    hell, if we really wanted to expand care without the states getting in the way, we would have simply deleted “65+” from the Medicare statute instead of expanding a program states are allowed to administer anyway.

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