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Yesterday, we all enjoyed ourselves watching Hillary Clinton sit on a stage with Christiane Amanpour and talk about life, the universe, and how “her opponent” (she meant Donald Trump) is a dumb lunatic who can get effed.

The media lost its shiiiitttt. New York Times writers took a break from penning articles about how she didn’t get the proper permits for her kitchen (no, really, that’s real) to go on Twitter and howl that she wouldn’t “take personal responsibility” for being a losing loser who loses because she noted (correctly) that the Comey letter took her from “going to win” to “oh fuck.”

She reportedly apologized to President Obama on Election Night, according to Shattered. She apologized to all of us the next morning.

Nobody yet has been able to point me to another instance of a candidate apologizing for losing, and that she did so stomped our hearts. Women always have to apologize. We apologize when someone bumps into us. We apologize when we bump into a table. We apologize when we’re right.

But none of those apologies are enough for the Daily News’s Gersh Kuntzman, who gets paid to write like the worst, nastiest diarrhea-mouthed rantings of the New York Post. Here is how he begins.

Hey, Hillary Clinton, shut the f— up and go away already.

Sometimes my mom points out to me that Bernie Sanders — who is not a private citizen but an elected official representing Vermont — is out there fighting. Why isn’t Hillary? she asks me. I point out that she’s given many speeches the media hasn’t covered — the same media that complained she wasn’t talking about economic policy but then kept cutting away from her economic policy speeches to show footage of Donald Trump’s empty lectern, the same media that now is telling her to shut the “f— up” and “go away.”

Let’s copy and paste some more of this fine fellow, who you wouldn’t at all fear would start screaming like an unhinged lunatic right in your face:

I voted for Clinton on Nov. 8 and thought she’d be a good president.

But she lost. And she still wants us to feel bad about that. And, worse, she’s still blaming everyone else.

On Tuesday at the Women for Women conference, she reminded us again what a flawed candidate she was last year — and what a flawed person she has always been.

In her talk before a friendly audience, Clinton said she’s writing a memoir — and said it’s “painful” to revisit how Donald Trump beat her like a ragdoll in an election that was a lock.

Painful? We’re the ones in pain, Hillary. You’re making millions to process it. We’re the ones living it.

How dare Hillary Clinton have the same human emotions as the rest of us? How dare she have feelings about people telling her every single day that nobody likes her (except for 69 million people), everybody hates her, she’s a crook and a prostitute and she needs to die. What a fucking monster to have feelings about that.

She also said she would discuss the mistakes she made during the campaign — then declined to mention even one. Instead, she fell back on the usual suspects: The Russians and FBI Director James Comey, who indeed meddled in the election at the last minute.

“If the election had been on Oct. 27, I would be your President,” she said.

This is … true? Like, fairly undeniably true? But it is math, and facts, and Yelly Rage Man is having none of THAT, because he is roiling with hysteria and needs to have his womb chopped out.

Boo hoo.

Sorry, Simon & Schuster may want Hillary Clinton to write the history, but I’m not about to let her re-write it.

Gersh Kuntzman, macho hero, knows what the real issue of the day is, and it is tackling Hillary Clinton to the ground and preemptively yelling at her that her memoir IS WRONG.

Macho hero, has many novels.

No one deserves more blame for the election debacle than Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Let us count the ways:

1. She was, indeed, untrustworthy: Remember her fainting spell at the 9/11 ceremony?

And I think that’s about enough from Gersh Kuntzman, who goes on to assert some lies of his own, like that she “called half the country a basket of deplorables,” which she didn’t — she quite clearly asserted that half of Trump voters were regular people who had different priorities for policy than she did, and half of his voters were frankly deplorable. And the media went along with the libel that she had called all Trumpers — or even all Republicans — deplorable, even as the media knew exactly who half of Trump supporters were. They were racist frogs and David Duke and the people who have told you and me and everyone we know we belong in a gas chamber. Hell, she wasn’t even talking about your typical garden variety “blacks are lazy” racists! She gave those fuckers the benefit of the doubt!

Kuntzman’s other numbered points include:

2. She ran a very poor campaign (this is where he lies about her “deplorable” comment),
3. But her emails,
4. “Those Goldman-Sachs speeches. You can’t be a prostitute on Wall Street and then go to church on Main Street.”

Yeah, he called her “a prostitute.”

And now we come to the end, and this funny? self-deprecating? utterly tone-deaf and cringey? UNCLEAR! section:

So, no, I don’t understand why a publishing firm would give Hillary Clinton millions of dollars to not even admit her mistakes. (Full disclosure: I have three far-more-interesting books that Simon and Schuster can have for a fraction of Clinton’s advance, including “Bad Seeds” (an unpublished novel), “Hitler Would Have Double-Parked” (an unpublished novel) and “Publish My Unpublished Novel” (an unpublished novel). So I don’t see why we can’t make a deal.)

Does Gersh Kuntzman’s editor hate him? I am guessing so, because that is mortifying, and Kuntzman should be mortified. But now we come to the end-end, and it is this:

The American public does not want a book from Hillary Clinton. It wants an abject apology. And it wants it for free. She got what she deserved: She lost.

Now she needs to shut up and go home.

First, Gersh Kuntzman, you don’t speak for me OR America about what “the American public” wants, and have you considered seeing someone about your tendency to make sprawling, grandiose pronouncements? Do you order for the table too, regardless of what it would like to eat? You sound like a malignant narcissist.

Second, there’s an odd strain of people — mostly men — who can’t let go of the desire to ritually punish and humiliate Hillary Clinton, even more than they already have. They have many reasons for this, and they are all as poorly stated and transparent as the above.

She apologized to Barack Obama like an errant daughter. She apologized to all of us and broke my fucking heart. And they want her to do it again and again and again, demanding she simultaneously scourge herself and disappear.

Nothing disgustingly misogynistic and terrifyingly, spittle-flyingly woman-hating about these men.

Nothing at all.

[NYDN]

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  • A-Fucking-woman.

  • chascates

    Nothing is more frightening than a strong, capable woman.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      I stand in abject terror of half the wonketariat.

      • DrBigHead

        Shhh. They’ll hear us…..

        • Msgr_MΩment

          Uh oh. Spanking. And then….

  • Anna Elizabeth

    Kuntzman – Cunt Man? – has an extremely vote-punchable smug-assed Monkey face, does he not?

    I don’t even know what else to say. I am very, very sick of the MSM, and of whining men.

  • Chadwells

    Kuntzman looks like a hobbit.

    • kareemachan

      HOBBIT LIBELZ!!!!1!!

      • Chadwells

        HAH! I was waiting for that!!

  • Hobbes’ Evil Twin

    First a picture of Ted Cruz’s ugly mug and now this guy? I’m running out of computer screens to punch.

    • Oily Messiah

      Yea, it sure is ugly

    • GoutMachine

      He’s clearly a Backpfeifengesicht – German for “a face that badly needs punching.” (Unclear if the original German implies votes in this scenario.)

  • IdRatherBeDancing

    What an appropriately named guy.

  • elviouslyqueer

    Big manly talk from a mealy-mouthed motherfucker named “GERSH.”

  • memzilla Ω

    Finally, another journalism-themed replacement for the SHUT THE FUCK UP LUKE RUSSERT Wonkette® Rage Mug.

  • whitroth

    What a jerk. “She wants us to feel bad she lost”? How ’bout, WE’RE ALL ARE WE FUCKING UP A CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE that she lost? How about “THE WHOLE WORLD IS FUCKED”.

    And he thinks we should just “get over it”? I wave my private parts in his general direction.

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    Painful? We’re the ones in pain, Hillary. You’re making millions to process it. We’re the ones living it.

    Oh, I have severe doubts you are suffering any sort of pain, buttercup. Meanwhile, those of us who are sick, who are old, who are not WASPy enough for the current leadership…I think they have a better claim to feeling “pain”.

  • Mpeg

    “Gersh” sounds like a creature from Dr. Seuss. Or what you might say to Ira or George calling them a nickname if you wanted either of them to smack you sideways.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      It’s the sound of Anne Snyder Brooks gargling?

  • Carpe Vagenda

    I really enjoy the part where the minor brodude opinion writer from a paper legendary for hiring lickspittles for its billionaire real estate tycoon owner thinks he’s making the brave progressive case here. All these Uriah Heep fucks think they’re progressives. Or they’re libertarians who want to be able to look people in the eye, I can’t tell.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      I see them running
      Don’t know what
      They’re running from
      Nobody’s coming
      What’d they do that was so wrong

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    As a white male of a certain age I would like to formally apologize to Hillary Clinton for not supporting her enough. It is not her fault she lost the election, it was the fault of fearful old while men like me. I, personally, did not do enough to get out my demographic to vote for her. I assumed that all right thinking men of my age would see right through the Orange Menace. I was wrong. So, for that and more, I humbly beg your forgiveness, Ms. Clinton. And I will buy your book.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      I prefer the title Madame President-no-asterisk.

  • GoutMachine

    Hey, Kuntzman (whoever the fuck you are), shut the f— up and go away already.

  • BadKitty904

    Hillary Clinton Bringing Out Men’s Scary, Spitty Rage Strokes Again, By Existing.

    Good.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      She should come out and visit us more often, I think.

      • BadKitty904

        I agree. She, like Bamz, inspires hope, which is what We the People need most desperately right now.

        • YoBunnyBunny

          Hilz and Bamz should do a tour of America together. Inspire some Hope and Resistance and explode some d-bag heads too!

          • BadKitty904

            Amen, amen, amen.

  • IdRatherBeDancing

    Oh, and fuck this guy metaphorically speaking — not literally because yuck.

  • TJ Barke

    Whoa, Glasspusher upvoted me, I thought he was dead.

    • BadKitty904

      He’s been skulking today…

      <– <*glances ’round suspiciously*>

    • Ezio

      There’s a user named BackDoorMan up upvotes me almost a week or so after I’ve already made a certain comment.

      • TLM on the D Lo

        • Ezio

          Huh?

          • Just my pet theory that our resident pet repeat deleter who yells about the Turgid Love Muscles (hence the TLM) is actually a back door man.

          • JustDon’tSayFlatEarth

            A good theory, IMHO, which I share.

      • elviouslyqueer

        Orrin Hatch is on teh Wonkettes!!!!!11111!!!!!!11!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • BigBoppa ~ Résistent

        I’ve gotten some of those too.

        (Maybe I should have waited a couple of weeks to make this comment)

  • Msgr_MΩment

    This morning in class I apologized to my students that I have to add some extra security measures to their Final Exam because apparently someone’s been cheating. I particularly apologized to the ones who were being penalized despite having done nothing wrong. I eventually said something like “I apologize for humanity.” I got a few knowing chuckles.

    Hillary ain’t has nothing to apologize for. Weak candidate? Mar-a-Lagofuckyourself. If anyone, it’s the electorate that should apologize.

  • Creepoman

    Well-deserving of a vote-infused Kuntzpunt.

  • Nounverb911

    But E-Mailghazi!

  • elviouslyqueer

    I’m sorry, Gersh. I couldn’t hear you over the chorus of FUCK YOU.

    https://media.tenor.co/images/aac8e6562505b6b9fa26a3142b54db8a/tenor.gif

    • BadKitty904

      A Mormon-Tablenapkin-Choir-size chorus.

      • elviouslyqueer

        A veritable AOT,K chorus, even!

  • memzilla Ω

    With a name like “Gersh,” not to mention “Kuntzman,” I’m pretty sure this guy had his lunch money taken from him every single day until he went off to college… and even then…

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      and got more than a few kicks in the nads just for existing.

  • cmd resistor

    Well, there’s a sanctimonious prick.

    • BadKitty904

      You’re just being polite…

  • BadKitty904

    What *IS* it with Republicans and women??1? Do they just not like them or are they afraid of them or what?1??

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7ebe3a5ebc1963f1aa36b79e188267f1ac41c5a2746e4725ca13b9066ad02242.jpg

    • Courser_Resistance

      I’ve always suspected men are fundamentally afraid of women. We bring forth life from our loins. They can’t do much with what they have other than jack off. People talk about penis envy! I think it’s exactly the opposite. In some way, those hideous MGTOW have it right. Women really don’t need men for much of anything these days and men absolutely HATE that more than everything.

      Personally, I’ve been watching how many men kill the women they supposedly ‘love’. It happens every fucking day, just like it did this morning outside Dallas. Angry ex lover/boyfriend/husband/stalker, walked into a place, killed her and killed himself. He died believing he won because he showed that evil bitch who was boss. That’s ALL he cared about, so once he achieved that, he cowardly took his own life so he would never have to answer for what he did.

      Think about that. Killing a woman is fucking winning, particularly if he takes himself out by his own hand. Other like-minded men will cheer quietly to themselves, “Respect man! Gotta show those bitches who’s boss. You made an example of her. And you didn’t let The Man take you out. Like a Real Man, you took yourself out”

      • BadKitty904

        Odd. Very odd. Perhaps it’s because I’m a homo, but I find that reaction basically incomprehensible. I’ve always found women, in general, to be pleasant, interesting companions.

    • Stulexington

      Or anyone else besides the rich.

  • Nounverb911

    With his name, I hope Gersh Kuntzman had a terrible childhood.

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      Pretty sure he did if that is any consolation.

      • puredog

        Let’s see. . .[picks up and consults fancy prognosticating instrument]. . .”Signs point to ‘Yes.'”

  • Seamus Romney

    I love Hillz. If I have a child I hope they have as much spirit, dignity and commitment to service as she has. Yeah, I know. I’m sheeple. Baaaaa

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/81b5f2e7d735bbf27e578ca325120d5d731e10dc5e8ce6c740c080965d7a6498.gif

  • Ezio

    Ya know, it’s almost like these alt-righters and wingnuts are more scared of some imaginary matriarchy that wants to exterminate all white men than they are of a well established system of misogyny and white supremacy.

    See also: That whole “vagenda of manocide” thing.

  • JMP

    How about these mainstream media fuckheads apologize for their ridiculously biased coverage against Hillary Clinton and pretending phony scandals involved actual wrongdoing while constantly fawning over every speech Donald Trump gave ended up putting a fascist white supremacist idiot in charge of this country? Media,
    YOU ARE THE ONES WHO NEED TO APOLOGIZE, both to Hillary Clinton and to America. Particularly you, CNN and New York Times.

    • GoutMachine

      Thisity-fucking-this.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      It’s legit because they never thought he’d win, so they’d ride his ratings coattails and look even-handed in the process. Unfortunately…

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      And how about they apologize for again taking words of hers out-of-context so that they can paint her as an out-of-touch elitist. Jesus, she brought up the issue of rural broadband being insufficient, and the jackals with CDS just had to clip it to make it sound like she was mocking people who live in rural areas.
      You don’t do crap like that unless you are specifically looking to destroy someone.

      • JMP

        Or how she talked about how coal mining jobs won’t be coming back so we need to create new jobs in the former mine towns, and they changed that to “Hillary Clinton says she wants to destroy coal mining jobs”. It’s as stupid as the old “Al Gore said he invented the internet” bullshit.

        • DrBigHead

          Just like Walter Mondale when he said, if elected, he would raise taxes, many people simply do not want to hear the truth and punish the messenger for it.

    • Buzz1313

      Exactly!

    • Dudleydidwrong

      Please add NPR to that “particularly” list.

  • theblackdog

    Oh look, another white dude who thinks he knows what is the best thing for Hillary to do.

    Also I’m totally buying her book.

    • cmd resistor

      We should all chip in and buy him a copy as well. Or buy some for school libraries and send him a note we dedicated it in his name.

      • Buzz1313

        I’d like to chip in and host him a blanket party! 😡

        It’s a amazing how many people (and I’m talking some Democrats I know) are so eager to claim she was a flawed candidate, then cite Republican/ mainstream media talking points as evidence. When I’ve asked Hillary haters why they didn’t/don’t like her, I never get a coherent answer. I recall vividly how she was treated in the 90’s and beyond. The haters don’t realize they’ve been gas lighted by the establishment into their beliefs about HRC. Sadly, neither do many so called Democrats.

  • Chadwells

    OT: Wait…..WHAT?!?! Spicey didn’t just spit out some bullshit as if it were FACT?!?!? WTFF?!?!

    “Spicer: ‘Literally impossible’ to predict ObamaCare repeal bill’s effects”

    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/331803-spicer-literally-impossible-to-predict-obamacare-repeal-bills-effects

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f348948e634c2a23d134a8bbf4f0f188834ec75190ab038d63c3a45530565d25.gif

    • no he did. It is not only possible to predict Obamacare repeal bill’s effects, the CBO keeps going “LOOK ALL RIGHT? NO. BAD BILL BAD”

      • Chadwells

        LOL! I just read the headline and first couple paragraphs…and was stunned!

    • Stulexington

      It’s only literally impossible because they keep trying to shove the things out before people can assess the damage it’s going to cause.

    • puredog

      This just in: yes.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Kuntzman.

    That is all.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Inaptly named. Kuntz can take a pounding.

      • he is neither warm nor deep

      • MynameisBlarney

        perhaps we should call him Scrotesman

    • JohnBull

      My guess is he had a rough middle school experience.

  • Tzipora Kaplan

    this just made me cry, Rebecca. What is it about these men that they hate us so much?

    • MynameisBlarney

      They’re scared of the Vangender O’ Manocide!

  • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

    “She reportedly apologized to President Obama on Election Night”

    That just kicked me in the mental pockets. I can’t even imagine the agony of that conversation, between those two.

  • Aileen

    Hillary Clinton lost the electoral college vote by 80,000 spread over 3 states. It is fair to say that every theory about why she lost is true. Any number of things would have made the difference in such a tiny percentage of votes cast. So, she’s right about Comey, whiny tittybitch here is right she didn’t campaign hard enough in the right states, pissed off feminists such as myself are right that she lost because she’s a woman, others are right saying that the Russians campaign of fake news cost her the election, still others are right when they say Sanders didn’t concede the primary and get behind her early enough. We’re all right.

    • BadKitty904
      • 451 Byrnes

        How do you measure a hundred days in the life…

      • IdRatherBeDancing

        Probably more now since they are seeing real time his stellar competency

        • BadKitty904

          Good.

    • She campaigned hard enough in the right states.
      Unfortunately, voter suppression laws thanks in part to gerrymandering and the striking down of the FVA made that moot.
      So, everyone else is right in part but whinytittyboy up there is not.

      • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

        There’s a kernel of truth in it; there was carping in her campaign that she was visiting and trying to lock down states like Georgia and Arizona, when they weren’t realistically going to happen, instead of focusing on the firewall states. Some believe(d) that she didn’t want to just beat Donald, but humiliate him.

        It’s impossible to say whether her going to MI/WI would have helped, but there’s some room to criticize her priorities in campaigning.

        • Perhaps. But I do not think that anyone reasonably expected how much the strike down of the FVA affected said states. I for one find it interesting that no one ever remembers to mention that this is the first presidential we have done where those protections were gone, and those states she supposedly ignored just happen to be GOP led.
          Funny, that.
          .

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        There was a lot of strategerizing that her going to WI would have been counterproductive. She lost that primary twice, to Bamz and Bernie, and her personal negatives polled high. It was felt that a combination of more popular surrogates with good ground game, traditional support, and Trump’s even higher personal negatives would carry the day.

  • anwisok
  • JMP

    The Daily News dick calls Clinton a prostitute and tells her to shut up and go home, Geez, I wonder if his deranged hatred of her has something to do with her not being a man?

    • Carpe Vagenda

      I think it probably got more to do with the fact that turning into an obnoxious disingenuous misogynist asshole is how you get venture capital for your new media startup, or how you get hired by an existing one.

  • BadKitty904

    Does the Kuntz not know that cootie-shots are covered by Obamacare?

  • LarryHoudini

    These guys all come off as just a little too defensive. I think it’s because they can’t stand the idea that they had anything to do with electing Trump.
    Turds.
    BTW, I didn’t watch the concession speech then, and I’m sure not going to watch it now.

    • They do, don’t they. They get all upset and MAD when you tell em no and then sniff and whine and cry about speeches and mean neoliberals.
      It’s kinda funny XD Annoying, like my teen when he has a bug under his skin, but funny all the same.

  • Edith Prickly
  • Courser_Resistance

    Cunt-Man can go fuck himself with bunch of nasty, rusty razor-blade VOTES.

  • BadKitty904
    • theblackdog

      “…unless you’re black.”
      –Susan B. Anthony

      • JMP

        Bullshit.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_B._Anthony#Anti-slavery_activities

        “In 1837, at age 16, Anthony collected petitions against slavery as part of organized resistance to the newly established gag rule that prohibited anti-slavery petitions in the U.S. House of Representatives. [40] In 1851, she played a key role in organizing an anti-slavery convention in Rochester. [41] She was also part of the Underground Railroad. An entry in her diary in 1861 read, “Fitted out a fugitive slave for Canada with the help of Harriet Tubman.”[42]”

        In 1856, Anthony agreed to become the New York State agent for the American Anti-Slavery Society with the understanding that she would also continue her advocacy of women’s rights.[43] Anthony organized anti-slavery meetings throughout the state under banners that read “No compromise with slaveholders. Immediate and Unconditional Emancipation.”[44]”

        • theblackdog

          I stand corrected. I mixed up who was on what side when there was a split in the sufferage movement.

          • JMP

            Sorry, I thought you were just being a dick there, not honestly mistaken about Anthony’s for racial equality.

          • puredog

            Hey! If a nasty vile little snark mob can’t jump to conclusions about each other’s moral bona fides, who can?

          • theblackdog

            It’s all right. Either way it got me to re-check.

  • La forza del resistino

    Why we can’t have a lady POTUS mansplained by Uncle Carl.
    Carl: Women can be unpredictable during that time of the month.
    Me: She was like 68 years old.
    Carl: What difference does that make.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Jaysus.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Somebody’s not getting enough Deep Throat.
      We’re talking Bernstein, right?

    • boyblue122

      Imagine if the name on Donald Trump’s twitter account was replaced with Hillary’s name and the same angry nonsense was spewed out.

      The pro-Trump crowd “women is too emotional” hot takes would be non stop. Since its their savior twitter raging, its no big deal though

  • Msgr_MΩment
    • BadKitty904

      WHAT “campaign”?

  • Oily Messiah

    Probably will take some flak for saying this, while I disagree with just about everything Kuntzman says, I understand the sentiment a bit. I’d like to see the Clintons (not just Hillary, and especially Bill) take a step away from politics for bit. I truly believe that the democratic party needs to transform away from a party for and by socially-left urban professionals to a truly working class/labor party. I think we as party have avoided any true introspection after the 2016 loss and focus too much on elements we can’t control versus the one’s we can.

    And yes, the media aims completely unnecessary vitriol at Clinton in part, because she’s a woman.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      No, it’s such a transparently trollish thing to say that I can’t imagine you’re going to get much of a rise out of it.

      • Oily Messiah

        I’m interested why you think its trollish. I’m being sincere. I want the democrats to come back stronger in 2018 and I’m unsure that we can do it as the party of the Clintons, Schumers, and Perez’s

        • Thiazin Red

          Because it sounds like every “we should abandon women, minorities and LGBT people and focus on winning back white rural bigots” piece that was written after the election.

          And exactly what is wrong with Perez apart from not being St Bernie’s chosen? I remember when he was an exciting progressive who should have been the VP nom. But suddenly he was just the worst for daring to not do exactly what St Bernie dictated. St Bernie is far too pure to soil his hands with joining a party, but we should all bow to his wishes.

          • Oily Messiah

            I understand. I don’t think we should abandon women, minorities and LGBT people and focus on winning back white rural voters. I think the democrat party needs to be inclusive party for all. As for perez, I don’t have many real policy problems with the man, I respect him a lot. I have optics concerns that he may appear to some to be too connected to the old wall st. guard. Thank you for the candid response.

          • Courser_Resistance

            So throwing in with the unwashed, unskilled, ignorant purity pony to sidle up with the rural types?

            You’re talking out both sides of your mouth.

          • Thiazin Red

            So literally the only reason to not like him are the whims of St Bernie. Hes done nothing wrong, but Sanders the Blessed has declared him impure so he must be shunned.

        • Courser_Resistance

          So it’s the Goddamn Bernie Bros for you?

          I get it. She’s a woman who is the most fucking qualified person of ANY GODDAMN Gender for the job in the last 40 years (which I have lived through every fucking one!)

          But, but, but, was it the emails? Talks with Goldman-Sachs? Or is it simply that she’s an extremely accomplished woman who won’t bend to your will?

          Nope, you want some fucking unwashed, vegan, socialist, purity pony that couldn’t get elected in his own goddamn district!

          You’ve seen what inexperience has wrought and your on board for more of it.

          Oh it’ll all be perfect ‘cuz, we’re morally superior! That’s all we need!

          Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

          Peddle your ‘Jus Kurius??’ elsewhere

          KTHXBYE

          • Oily Messiah

            I voted for Clinton. She was the most qualified person for the job in a long time, and certainly more qualified than Trump.

          • Courser_Resistance

            But she ‘failed’, so fuck her?

            If you haven’t heard, she didn’t ‘fail’ and has nothing to apologize for. I’m infuriated that anyone things she does.

            Hillary Clinton has fought, bled and pushed harder for progress her ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE!!!

            God forbid she talked to powerful people in the process. Is that what gripes you? She’s too ‘connected?

            HEAR THIS DUMBASS:

            KNOWING HOW TO USE THE LEVERS OF POWER IS NOT EVIL!!!

        • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

          I think the main issue that people have with this line of thinking is that Hillary became associated with the old-guard, too-close-to-wall street faction of the Democratic party despite having done relatively little to deserve it (their real avatar, to be honest, is Chuck Schumer).

          I understand the impulse towards out-of-the-box thinking on improving electoral Democrats’ electoral prospects; I made a case against in-office politicians having foundations just yesterday (it didn’t go over well). But we can’t jettison Clinton’s faction, which does support our causes, on the hypothetical that it might pick us up votes elsewhere. Broadening our appeal is good; narrowing it for some to appeal to others isn’t.

      • cleos_mom

        Better be careful; the last person to make that reference was told to sit down and shut up. And actually did.

    • Chyron HR

      “Transforming the party” isn’t going to stop the NYT and CNN from spending the entirety of 2020 obsessively reporting on the Democratic candidate’s complicity in whatever scandal the Republicans have invented out of whole cloth.

      • Oily Messiah

        Absolutely true. But I’m worried that isn’t something we can control and we need to have strategies to beat that.

    • rebecca

      I don’t understand why we’d tell urban professionals to take a hike. that’s a lot of us here. should we all go be Republicans? what’s wrong with having *a coalition*?

      • JustDon’tSayFlatEarth

        jinx.

    • JustDon’tSayFlatEarth

      I don’t think you want to lose those urban professionals, though. It’d be too easy for them to stay home on election day if they’re left out of BOTH parties’ rhetoric.

      • Oily Messiah

        No absolutely, the democratic party should be an inclusive party. But I think we’ve focused too much on the urban professional to the detriment of working class. I’m a urban professional myself.

        • Thiazin Red

          There are working class people in cities. I’m guessing working class is code for white men.

          • Oily Messiah

            I don’t think third-way policies have particularly helped working people in cities either.

          • Courser_Resistance

            Who’s talking ‘Third Way’ anything.

            Dude, I have no idea what you’re taking about here. And I don’t think you do either. You’re just throwing random talking points out there.

            Troll.

          • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

            Please stop. He comments here enough for us to know that he’s not a troll.

            Shit on his ideas, the implications of his ideas, any of that stuff. But reserve the hate for actual trolls.

          • Courser_Resistance

            Okay, nuf said. Thanks for keeping me from being a total ass to a fellow wonker.

          • MissNomer

            DINGDINGDING

          • JMP

            The bullshit way the the media treats the phrase “working class” reminds me of how their used to be the “blue comedy collar tour”, where the comics were all rural white men which made them not at all represent actual blue collar workers.

        • Courser_Resistance

          So you’re telling us to sympathize with the bible beaters, god botherers, bigots, misogynists, racists and white supremacists?

          How ’bout you go first? See how that works out for ‘ya

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      You do realize that Clinton won among voters who make less than $30,000 per year by 12 points and won by 11 points among voters who make over $30,000 but less than $50,000 per year? That’s the very definition of “working class”.

      • Oily Messiah

        I didn’t know this, so thanks for sharing.

        • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

          Glad to help.

        • MissNomer

          That’s what happens when you swallow the media narrative about Hillary without checking the facts.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      I’d be perfectly ok with Bill doing that, but that’s because he’s hella problematic and has an unerring nose for causing the maximum damage to liberal causes possible. Hillary, by contrast, has done little to earn our ire and really isn’t using her celebrity to crowd out the field or anything. We need people like her.

      • Oily Messiah

        Thanks! I appreciate the candid response. This makes a lot of sense.

      • rebecca

        Bill needs to retire his MOUTH.

        • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

          While that’s one of the body parts that should go, it wasn’t his mouth that thought that taking a jolly stroll across the tarmac to Loretta’s plane to jaw about the kids was a swell idea.

    • Lefty Wright

      Yeah. That’s why Clinton won by huge margins among black and Hispanic voters, and won the majority of Asian voters. They are all wealthy urban lay abouts. The progressives keep blaming the Democrats for not doing enough, but keep forgetting to vote for them so they will have the political support to do anything. In the last 16 years, there has been about a three month window where the Democrats had hobble together filibuster proof majority and the presidency. During that time, they managed to get the Dodd-Frank bill and the ACA passed. Otherwise, the GOP was able to block everything they tried to pass and use the courts to block many of the executive actions and legislation that managed to get passed. Yet certain liberal or progressive groups are blaming the Democratic Party, not the GOP and their own lazy asses for not supporting the Democratic candidates in 2010, 2012, 2014 and now 2016. Why didn’t Obama do moooorrrre. Why didn’t the Democrats in congress pass allllll the billlllls I wanted? Could be because of the Republicans, your true enemy. Not the moderate and liberal Democrats. You get what you don’t vote for.

      • Oily Messiah

        Oh absolutely, progressive purity tests and lack of interest in voting have absolutely made it difficult for democrats to accomplish anything in government.

        • Lefty Wright

          Deflect by agreeing. You stated that the party needed to turn away from the urban/professional groups to the working class/labor party. I was saying that Clinton had that demographic covered also. Her platform contained many policies that would help the average worker. No one paid any attention to them except the minority groups that consist mainly of poor and middle class workers. So either Clinton had those groups completely suckered or the whites were using a purity test that had nothing to do with working class values. Or at least only had something to do with their ideas of working class values.

        • Thiazin Red

          And yet you want to kick people out for their perceived impurity.

      • Meccalopolis

        And Obama still got aca passed, which will probably go down as his greatest achievement

        • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

          Bite your tongue.

          • Meccalopolis

            I know. I just don’t think this latest will go anywhere. This law seems to be bullet proof (knocks wood)

    • MissNomer

      You mean the white male working class. Because the Democratic base is not, in fact, “socially-left urban professionals.” It’s women, POC and LGBTQ. What you’re saying is that the Democratic Party should turn its back on its base in order to embrace sexists, racists, and homophobes. And that would be monumentally stupid.

      • cleos_mom

        No need to worry. One day Trump will “step away for politics for a bit.”

  • azeyote

    can’t anyone get it – the main problem was she’s a woman

    • Msgr_MΩment

      They’re all dancing around it because we all know how emotional she’d be if we said it out loud.

      • Stulexington

        And those death squads.

        • theblackdog

          Just ask Alex Jones!

    • Crystalclear12

      And that men are dicks.

  • The Wanderer

    This whore would know a lot about prostitution, wouldn’t he?

    • Mr. Blobfish

      He really stepped in it the day after Glenn Frey died. His column was basically “so sad he died but the Eagles really sucked “. Fair enough but could you wait a couple of days?

      • pianoplayer1

        Glenn Frey died from rheumatoid arthritis. I have RA. It is awful.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    Some people work out their psychological problems in their writing under the guise of political editorials or other supposedly outward-focused opinions.

    “We’re the ones in pain, Hillary.” Yeah, I suppose you are, Gersh. But you’ll never level with your readers about what’s really soaking your toast. It’s easier to just yell at the public figure you know is better and smarter than you.

  • Beanz&Berryz

    I’m just bummed that so many dicks have dicks. Allegedly. Not that I actually for real know. But. They hold themselves out as having dicks.

  • Crystalclear12

    Clinton lost because racist assholes got off their asses and voted while purity princesses didn’t.

    • Meccalopolis

      Or voted stein or t rump

    • Carpe Vagenda

      and african-american, hispanic and poor voters couldn’t.

  • Thiazin Red

    Weren’t people bitching about how she wasn’t at the Women’s march, and should be public? There is literally nothing she, or apparently now Chelsea, could do that they wouldn’t complain about.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    There would have been 100 Congressional investigations in her first 100 days.

    • Rick Hill

      Which would cost taxpayers more? Investigations against President Clinton or trump’s vacations?

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • Thiazin Red

      JFC I want to scream this every time some asshole says something about how the people rejected her. The people very well fucking didn’t.

      • BadKitty904

        America chose Hilary.

        Russia – with the help of its GOP collaborators – chose Trump.

  • schmannity

    You can’t make this up. Trump exposes classified documents at Mar A Lago and now Bannon exposes his own whiteboard.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/glimpse-into-steve-bannons-make-america-great-again-whiteboard-2017-5

    • BadKitty904

      I can’t believe the Joint Chiefs of Staff or the CIA or somebody hasn’t charged them with treason.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        Hopefully we can tack a “yet” on to the end there.

  • neminem

    “Nobody yet
    has been able to point me to another instance of a candidate
    apologizing for losing, and that she did so stomped our hearts. Women
    always have to apologize”

    That’s silly. Nobody until this election was running against someone so completely disgustingly awful in every possible way, either. I’m sure any other democrat candidate would’ve apologized, too – the apology being, roughly, “I know what’s going to happen now – I’m sorry I couldn’t prevent this tragedy from unfolding”.

    • MissNomer

      No, they wouldn’t.

  • Sheepshagger

    It’s the world in a microcosm. Clinton is the dirty fucking whore who deserves opprobrium and must be shamed and cast out. The johns on Wall Street are- no where to be mentioned at all? Fucking fancy that. Lemmee guess, they’re good church going wasps who got led astray by the devil in a blue dress? This fucking planet.

  • Rick Hill

    “She apologized to Barack Obama like an errant daughter. She apologized to all of us and broke my fucking heart. And they want her to do it again and again and again, demanding she simultaneously scourge herself and disappear.”

    Be fair. You know thye hold trump to an even greater standard. why else would such a strong man constantly have to whine like a little bitch over the attacks against him?

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Geeze, the election is over, we should stop talking about it. Or something…
    https://twitter.com/mviser/status/859843278874841088

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    You’re making millions to process it. We’re the ones living it.

    Good thing Hillary (as opposed to this asshole) is doing something constructive for us while she processes it:

    https://twitter.com/dnahealthnut/status/859857920921489408

    PS: Sorry, Elizabeth, I love you but I am not pleased you’re going after Obama for one speech while we have Satan in the WH FFS.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      I am super sad about Warren. She’s not a stupid woman, and she knows she’s joining a pile on with people whose hands aren’t clean, and she doesn’t seem to see the truck heading straight for her when she’s the woman in the way.

      • Courser_Resistance

        Thank you. I haven’t been as hot on Liz since the election. Not wild about her focus these days.

    • cleos_mom

      But she does serve a purpose. What’s the equivalent of “beard” for sexists of the heterosexual variety?

  • DensityDestiny

    All this mansplaining makes me uber sad. There is no one person responsible for her loss. There are five!
    Man 1: Bill Clinton, who may be smart, charming and liberal, but nobody likes a philanderer.
    Man 2: Bernie Sanders, who hesitated to support her, made all kinds of ridiculous, chauvinistic statements (she can’t ask us to vote for her just because of her gender!)
    Man-group 3: Bernie Bros. Nuff said.
    Man 4: Comey
    …and the big winner…
    Man 5: Putin

    Trump doesn’t deserve any credit for it.

    Men of Wonkette, please don’t take my man-blaming personally. We’re cool, yo?

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Don’t forget Anthony “Why Am I Not Perpetually On Fire” Weiner.

      • DensityDestiny

        Oh, damn! I totally meant him too. He was on the original crumpled list I’ve been fondling in my mental pocket all day.

        Ok that analogy sounded better in my head.

        • Courser_Resistance

          I can see how that could happen :-)

        • IdRatherBeDancing

          So many asshole men (I’m a man so I can say this) so little time to remember all of them to compile a complete list.

          • puredog

            AND YOU’RE IMPLYING A WOMAN COULDN’T SAY THIS???!? WHY, YOU MANSPLA —-
            (I was going to go on in this vein for a while, but realized that if I did too good a job of it someone might take me seriously.)

        • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

          If I wrote a novel about the first female presidency being derailed by a dick, whose name means dick, texting picks of his dick, I’d be told that it was too “on-the-nose.”

          • DensityDestiny

            Or too literary.

            The way people ignore/can’t see the role gender played is so very discouraging, because if we can’t accurately identify the problem, we can’t fix it.

    • BadKitty904
    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Yeah, we cool

    • jesterpunk

      You forgot the sexist MRA light assholes who wont vote for a women at all.

    • Rick Hill

      trump and his collusion with russia may put him in there just a tench.

      • DensityDestiny

        I don’t know, though. There was a point when I thought maybe Donald was a criminal mastermind, but now I think he’s just dumb and got played by Putin. I guess he can have credit for effort?

    • Meccalopolis

      I think the Bernie bros gave him the edge in pmw. They’re still posting Russian spam on fb

    • Fidel Jack Tenhet

      We’re cool. You’re absolutely right. It was all men who did this. You did leave out Julian Assange though. He does belong on your list.

      • Roadstergal

        Good point. The pasty rapist mashed his thumbs on the scale.

        • Fidel Jack Tenhet

          And he hated her with a passion as well.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        David Axelrod used the briefing books from the two campaigns he ran for her to weaponize reddit for campaign trollbois.

        • DensityDestiny

          I did not know that. Shit. Insider information. Well, I’m enjoying a little schadenfreude now that Obama has accepted speaking fees from Wall Street. That probably burned some Bernie Bro butts.

          • Carpe Vagenda

            He also pledged five times his speaking fee to charity.

          • DensityDestiny

            I hadn’t checked but that’s what I figured. I’m fine with that, I was fine with the Clintons doing it. It takes money to get shit done, and the Clintons + Obamas do good with their money. Unlike the Trumps. But Bernie and his self-righteous supporters are not too pleased.

        • BBStevens

          One of the worst things I ever read was a convo between Jon Stewart and Axelrod where they were discussing how Hillary Clinton answers questions – like she pauses too much, or her answers are too deliberate. I wanted to punching them both in the fucking face.

          • Carpe Vagenda

            Yeah, winning daddy issues bingo shouldn’t be as lucrative as it is.

          • BBStevens

            I hope hillzdawg keeps talking about the shit and dropping the mic. Let it burn em all. These fuckers even tarnished Obama’s legacy.

        • BBStevens

          And is that a cthulhu angel you got as your avatar? It’s cute.

          • Carpe Vagenda

            Nah. Hello, Cthulhu.

          • BBStevens

            k I was curious what it was.

      • DensityDestiny

        You right! We need to keep a master list somewhere.

        • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

          Maybe Aria Stark could recite it nightly before going to sleep?

    • Red Bird Ω

      True. But you know which woman will never be held responsible for he mistakes? Ivanka, that’s who. She knows her place.

    • grindstone

      Fuck Bernie. Fuck him large. He sat through the convention with a face like a slapped-ass and he didn’t ask his constituents to get behind Hill until it was too freaking little too freaking late. And now he wants to speak for Democrats? Hell no. You’re an Independent, step right the fuck off.

    • pianoplayer1

      WHY I DID NOT LIKE BERNIE: He ran as a Democrat, but HE IS NOT A DEMOCRAT!

    • Little Lulu Ω

      This, actually.

  • lucidamente
    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Saw that. Still fuming.

    • Thiazin Red

      Too real. There is literally nothing she could say that wouldn’t get shit on.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    She was, indeed, untrustworthy: Remember her fainting spell at the 9/11 ceremony?

    What–is he accusing her of faking it? Or of denying that the combination of the heat of that day with the rigors of campaigning might have made her feel less than her best for a few moments? What in the ever-loving FUCK?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/713868f09cd6fbf0c00253640b60959177b057363d51905dc63a3c2494a9e946.jpg

    • Thiazin Red

      She was also aware that people would throw a deranged shit fit if she called in sick to it.

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      Don’t you know — she is NEVER allowed to win by a segment of the population with a penis (apparently micro sized).

    • Lefty Wright

      She was also recovering from pneumonia that day.

    • alpacapunchbowl

      I couldn’t figure that out either, but I refuse to spend any more time parsing out this human trashpile’s word vomit.

    • Stulexington

      Or was she lying when she said she was fine when she was really at death’s door!!!!!11!1eleven!!

    • I thought he was just saying that a woman who faints is untrustworthy. You know, as in “you know women, with their vapors and fainting and hysteria. Can’t count on them.”

    • pianoplayer1

      Plus, she had freaking pneumonia. Plus, also, where are the brain tumor/paralysis/ strokes/ dementia that the wing nuts said she was hiding during the election?

  • Electric Ukulele Land

    100+ days in to the Trump administration and this guy is still solidly stuck on stage 2 of his grieving. I’m sorry dude, but you can’t keep being angry and blaming Hillary for the fact that nearly half the voters in this country are idiots and voted for an idiot, no matter what their rationale or thought process (if any). This is something you need to accept.

    There are those of course who would say that the whole Russia connection and Comey letter thing falls into that same vein — except that the former has grave implications for how our government is being run currently and what will happen in future elections and the latter has implications for how the FBI is operating.

  • boyblue122
    • BadKitty904
    • Panika MCD

      dear Sean,

      if you had been following border security longer than the last 5 minutes, you would know that the numbers for crossing apprehensions are dramatically inflated because they count one apprehension per LEA involved which could include the following: Border Patrol, FBI, DPS, TPWD, Texas National Guard, Texas State Guard, a municipal police force and/or a county sheriff’s department.

      levee walls can be driven over, but they cannot be constructed because they violate a treaty regarding water use on the Rio Grande. the bollard “wall” is one of the many fences he showed being broken.

      it wouldn’t have been funded by Bamz because a) Bamz didn’t promise people a fucking wall, he spoke out against it and b) Kay Bailey Hutchison shut down the 700 miles of fencing Shrub passed in 2007 because it was an expensive, stupid and ineffective idea which harmed the Rio Grande Compact, a treaty with Mexico, hunting, ranching and farming in the area while not doing shit for stopping people from coming over.

      just to be clear and thank you for providing yet another opportunity, you’re an idiot and an asshole, Spice Spice Baby. but turn that frown upside down! you can do both at the same time.

    • Pisto75666

      Lego wall or GTFO.

    • Fidel Jack Tenhet

      Also, too, they want to build a wall over a river.

      The stupid burns. It still burns.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Those Goldman-Sachs speeches. You can’t be a prostitute on Wall Street and then go to church on Main Street.

    I see it’s time to remind everyone of the great Jesse Unruh’s quote (updated for modern times):

    If you can’t drink the lobbyists’ whiskey, take their money, sleep with their call girls and/or rent boys, and still vote against them in the morning, you don’t belong in politics FFS.

    (I might have added that last part for emphasis, since this idiot writer clearly needs it.)

    • BadKitty904

      Those Goldman-Sachs speeches. You can’t be a prostitute on Wall Street and then go to church on Main Street.

      Republicans do it every day of the week.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      So I guess the guy who works for Mort Zuckerman’s scab paper knows all about being a whore.

  • marxalot

    We’ve got pundits who, on the one hand, don’t wanna hear from Hilz, ‘cuz she lost and needs to just go away forever, but on the other would like to hear moar from the guy she beat in the primary.
    And we’re all paying a lot of attention to the guy she beat in the general, for that matter.

    • Panika MCD

      but they has penile things?

    • Carpe Vagenda

      That’s because there are mergers to merged, and their billionaire owners really don’t want us to take back the House.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • Roadstergal

      I want my Madame President. I was cheated out of her by Russia and some assholes.

  • Meccalopolis

    I don’t accept her apology because she has NOTHING to apologize for.

  • bupkus231

    I suppose this exposes the 13-year-old boy hiding withing this 60-year-old, but KUNTZMAN?

    my 60-year-old self wants to say, who cares what some nobody tabloid writer had to say about Hillary Clinton, my 13-year-old self wants to say, “KUNTZMAN??? Hahahahahhahhah!”

    My 60-year-olc self did the Googles on this guy, and is now willing to cede the floor to my 13-tear-old self….

    • Fidel Jack Tenhet

      I went there myself.

  • Panika MCD

    how does one simultaneously “shut up” and “apologize”? and does Kuntzman need a binky to soothe him that not only is HRC better at politics and policy than he is, but she also too has more interesting books that people actually want to publish?

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Whenever I hear something like that, all I can hear is Foghorn Leghorn.
      “Well speak up! Say something! Explain yourself!”
      “But, but…”
      “Yappity Yappity Yap, I can’t get a word in edgewise!”

      • Panika MCD

        please no more Foghorn Leghorn references.

        • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

          Okay, I sorry.

          • Panika MCD

            it’s just that Bettencourt is…I’m having a hard time not throwing things at him.

          • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

            Just remember that you have hungry beasts at home who need the kibble money you bring in. That’s how my mom tolerates some of the idiots she has to listen to.

          • cleos_mom

            But you meant to bump into that table. Didn’t you? Didn’t you?

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      “Shut your mouth when you’re talking to me”, in microcosm.

  • kindness

    So many punchable faces. Where to begin?

  • Carpe Vagenda

    And in other fuck off news, the woman who started Girls Who Code (is just one of the people who) wants out of Ivanka’s book

    https://twitter.com/reshmasaujani/status/859482029301182464

  • Fidel Jack Tenhet

    I’m with you here. She had and has nothing to apologize for. Most of this was out of her control and nothing would have made any difference. Russian hacking, trolling, unbalanced coverage, Comey, I watched all these things unfold in real time and am still floored by what happened.

    i was naive. I thought the Access Hollywood tape meant it was over. Then came the Wikileaks dump that same news cycle. I was in the cycle when it happened and I could see what was going on.

    She was robbed and we were robbed of her. Regardless, she’s a private citizen now and has every right to “come out of the woods” and speak her mind. She always had that, even if we weren’t the best at letting her do it.

    Kuntzman (fitting name, if you think about it) said the exact thing i hate the most. The “shut up and sing” bullshit. It’s largely applied to women, rarely men. It’s been applied before to women like Meryl Streep. Women are not allowed to be strong and dynamic in this culture and that’s the sickness of it. Women must “keep their place” and have men tell them when they can speak, what they can say and how often.

    it’s wrong and even a penis haver like me knows that. It’s wrong.

    Mrs. Clinton, don’t let them scare you off this time. I need you like I needed you before. I need your intelligence, your courage, your spirit, your compassion, your truth, your reason, your beauty. We need hope.

    I am still With Her. I always will be.

    • puredog

      Access Hollywood.
      Sandy Hook.
      If the last couple of years have taught me anything, it’s to wait until the fat opera singer sings.

  • beavertank

    Heh heh heh. Kuntzman.

    …that’s all I’ve got. Fuck that guy.

  • Stulexington

    “why isn’t she still fighting, she should be fighting like Bernie” on one side “she lost, she should just shut up and go away” on the other.

    She should do whatever the fuck she wants. She’s a private citizen, she doesn’t owe us a god damned thing, and certainly doesn’t have to listen to arrogant fucks trying once again to silence a woman for having the nerve to speak her mind.

    I’m still with her.

    • Bernie’s idea of fighting appears to be based on negotiating with women’s reproductive rights to get to whatever he thinks is a higher priority. HRC will never “fight like Bernie”, thank goodness. She’ll fight for everyone, not just the mythical economically anxious white working class male.

  • Fidel Jack Tenhet
  • Pisto75666

    “On Tuesday at the Women for Women conference, she reminded us again what a flawed candidate she was last year — and what a flawed person she has always been.”

    But much less flawed than Baron Fuckface McClownstick so hey, there’s THAT.

    • alpacapunchbowl

      Doesn’t matter because vagina.

  • Jgb979

    “the Daily News’s Gersh Kuntzman”

    Just because you were born a cuntsman doesn’t mean you have to act like one all of your life.

  • Contemplative Ron

    The boss noted:

    Women always have to apologize. We apologize when someone bumps into us. We apologize when we bump into a table. We apologize when we’re right.

    This proves it: men are from Mars, women are from Canada.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      “Sore-ee”

  • sgt. jmk of the résistance

    No matter how many times this woman apologizes, it will never be enough for the fucks who really just want her to apologize for being female and then go away.

    http://electionado.com/canvas/1476453915003

    I am Still With Her.

    • Nodrama4mama

      I would buy 100 copies of her book if she titles it, “I’m Sorry My Vagina Clouded Your Judgement” with a subtitle of, “What Do I Have To Say To Get You Weak Ass Twat-Waffles To Leave Me Alone and Focus On Trump/Russia”

      or

      “Why I Lost: Because America IS Full of Whiny Assed Titty Babies”

      • I’d settle for the title: I Fucking Told You This Would Happen If You Let Him Win.

    • cleos_mom

      And when someone bitcheswhinesandmoans about “identity politics” and/or “voting for a candidate just because she’s a woman”, remember this:

      Men have been voting on the basis of gender
      Hiring on the basis of gender
      Giving raises on the basis of gender
      Giving promotions on the basis of gender
      Extending credit on the basis of gender

      forever.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        I can’t upfist this enough.. EXAAAAAAACTLY!!!!

  • Carpe Vagenda

    But if you’ve got russian money and enough supervillains on your side you can pick when it’s stolen.

    https://twitter.com/politico/status/859877528705667072

  • Fidel Jack Tenhet

    Maybe it’s jut easier for men to somehow blame someone else for our own failure. We do that all the time anyway. But we can’t keep doing that. We have to be willing to face what things are and change them.

    Nobody should be able to deny we have a misogyny problem. We do absolutely have one. Now we need to face it and ask what we can do to help fix it. The soul of our nation depends on that.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      I wish it weren’t so, but it is. I needled my sister about the majority of white women voting for Trump, which is true. But even more white men voted for Trump. We’re not the only problem, but frankly we’re the biggest.

  • Sedagive ’em Hell

    Full disclosure: I was a part of the media-infotainment complex for years. I was both on-camera talent and involved in production. I knew the game inside-out.

    I can say, with absolute authority, that what a man is given, a women must earn. Men walk through doorways while women have to pick at locks. A man is considered standard and noncontroversial while a woman is treated as a risk.

    A woman with twice the skill must also have the right “attitude” to compete with a man with less ability. In my own small way I fought the system and eventually I won, but that didn’t change the narrative one bit.

    I spent the campaign season watching Hillary be the smarter, saner, more knowledgeable, poised and prepared candidate. I watched her struggle with that delicate balance that a woman must strike, those innumerable little calculations and concessions that a highly competent woman has to make to compete with a lesser man. I cried with frustration. I felt her pain.

    It broke my fucking heart.

    • Courser_Resistance

      Damn, but thank you. I’ve never really been part of that world other than working temp at KOA a zillion years go, but what you say is absolutely true.

      I’ve been a single woman my entire life and in many, many different types of workplaces and it’s true anywhere. I suspect infotainment is pretty brutal on physical looks, but that can cripple women outside the public eye is well.

      Like that wonderful woman once said, we have to do everything backward and in heels. In a room of screaming hyenas should be added these days…

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  • TakingAmes

    Fuck that guy. Fuck him right in the ear.

  • Jenny

    Untitled Memoir now on pre-order with Amazon, bought. Eat a dick, Pepes.

  • Red Bird Ω

    Don’t you know that only a man is capable of cheating the public our of their money, stirring up racial animosity and causing unnecessary wars?

  • lroom

    What a shitheel. For everyone who says she didn’t go to this or that state fuck you too. I’ve spent most of my life in a state no one cares about. Politicians don’t bother to visit or even acknowledge it and yet every election I manage to go and vote for the best candidate. “She didn’t come to my state” is a pussy ass excuse to throw your vote away.

  • natoslug

    Kuntzman is neither warm nor deep.

  • Rick Hill

    Hillary Clinton. More gracious in defeat(sic) than any of the trumpettes, including the head cheese donnie, have been in victory.

  • waspuppet

    “… she quite clearly asserted that … half of his voters were frankly deplorable.”

    Her only problem was she was a little low with that estimate.

    • Roadstergal

      Seriously. Every news story since the election makes me think, we’re going to need a bigger basket.

    • Doug Langley

      A good thing for Trump that he never resorted to calling people names.

  • Contemplative Ron

    Know what, Kuntzman, you whiny little titty-baby?
    You don’t DESERVE a President Clinton. She spent a lifetime preparing for the job. She’s the most qualified person in the country’s HISTORY to try for the job, and you and your twatwaffle colleagues in the press shit on her 24/7 from the moment she announced her candidacy. You’re STILL shitting on her. And you have the temerity to blame HER for losing.
    Oh, and PS, you know what they call someone who’s written three novels that haven’t been published? Hint: it ISN’T ‘novelist,’ you no-talent hack.

  • nomoremister

    Brava.

  • Jenny

    I don’t know. It would seem that failing to achieve a lifetime goal, in public, in a devastating loss to a moron, all while being called a nerdy, ugly,whore would hurt. A lot. A whole hell of a lot more than waking up every day as a white dude named Kuntzman.

    But what do I know; being a Kuntzman might just be on the level of hell.

    • puredog

      And don’t forget, she slept with a collie.

  • canes_pugnaces

    A totally excellent post. Thank you. You’re earning my hard-earned money with that one. Just shared it with my 15 yo daughter.

  • anon_the_great

    Kuntzman, really? Has the entire world turned into a frat?

  • Vincent Ricola

    I’m late to the party, but I’d just like to add that every piece of shit that they fling at Hillary makes me love her more. The very fact that she exists scares inadequate men everywhere and I hope she never “shuts up and goes the fuck away.”

    Special shout-out to my “liberal” brothers who love to have their turn at her – like fuckwad Bill Maher and the never helpful Michael Moore – may you assholes get enlightened before you succeed in killing off the only viable liberal party in this country, ruining it for the rest of us non-attention seekers. Oh and eat shit too.

    • Roadstergal

      *applause*

      I thought Maher’s love-fest for Milo would have been the end of the show for him. Nope.

      • Vincent Ricola

        If I have to see him “speaking for liberals” on CNN one more time, I’m going to lose my mind.

        While women are leading the resistance, these jerkoffs are “well actually…”-ing us into 2018 failure and I’m especially annoyed by it today.

    • brian_x

      I always gave Moore a certain benefit of the doubt until I flipped through one of his books and realized That Boy Ain’t Right.

    • cleos_mom

      Other than wrinkles, grey hair and pendulous balls, some of them haven’t changed a bit since the days when the position of women in the revolution being “prone” was a left-wing male kneeslapper.

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    His outburst of explosive verbal diarrhea (I won’t call it a “column”) is so similar in tone and content to the verbal diarrhea we’ve been seeing from Russian-supported trolls. Same right-wing lies and smears. Same Sputnik and RT disinformation. Same anti-Hillary animus. Makes a guy wonder if he checked the current dollar-ruble exchange rate before hitting “send”. The Peggy Noonan Rule* applies.

    * Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible *not* to speculate!

  • (((fka_donnie_d)))

    The DN brought this on themselves by hiring a guy named Kuntzman.

  • SadDemInTex

    I’m with Her. STFU, you fucking misogynist

  • Mavenmaven

    They can still say “flawed” with a straight face when the other candidate was a treasonous racist manipulative demagogue?

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      It really does boggle the mind.

    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

      They mean “female,” of course. It’s all the more breathtakingly astonishing that they continue this AFTER the treasonous racist manipulative ignorant deranged demented demagogue. The purest fucking misogyny.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    Yes, Hillary was a flawed candidate because she had a vagina, and she didn’t use her mouth in ways that men like Kuntzman would approve of.

    • zerosumgame0005

      and damn her for NOT MAKING SAMMICHES!!!!1111!!!!!!!

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I thought it was cookies she wouldn’t make. Did she refuse to make sammiches too???? Did she PERSIST in refusing to make sammiches??? Bad girl. 😂

  • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

    Fuck this unpublished demi-turd, may his beard stink of hobo’s ass-cheese forevermore.

    WOW! MY PRAYER CAME TRUE!

    • C4TWOMAN

      It’s like a magical fairy granted your wish. Make another!

    • zerosumgame0005

      persist little picked one! persist!

  • Bitter Scribe

    I have a weird name, so I almost never make fun of anyone else’s. But if I had a name like “Kuntzman,” I might have become a misogynist too.

    • Serai 1

      Or you could, you know, change it.

  • ultragreen

    The Republicans in Congress are on the verge of destroying the health care of about 50 million Americans, while Wonkette and friends are more concerned about Hillary Clinton’s image in the media. Talk about being out-of-touch.

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      Yeah it’s terrible how we can’t have two ideas at the same time. And NEVER ask us to walk and chew gum.

    • C4TWOMAN

      So is this Purity Pony?
      A High Horse?
      Or just a lefty Sea Lion?

      • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

        Or a right-wing shit-stirrer. Lots of those about.

      • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

        This one’s “so concerned” with healthcare that they insist on making friends and allies by shaking their shame-finger mightily!

        This technique surely will succeed.

      • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

        A “comrade” getting hard by trying (and failing) to bully a mommy blog.

    • Nockular cavity

      Say, you know who didn’t plan on destroying the health care of about 50 million Americans?

    • Apple Scruff

      Whatever you say, Comrade.

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      We multi-task mutha fucka.

    • zerosumgame0005

      hey there ultrastupid, so you think this is the ONLY post a wonkette has or ever fucking will post? that that very issue has never been addressed in any way here? take your tired “purity”/concern trolling back to britefart and storm front

    • Marceline

      The Republicans in Congress are on the verge of destroying the health care of about 50 million Americans because butthurt progressives sat home or spite voted because they didn’t get their Bernie Sanders action figure for Christmas so please pour yourself a big glass of STFU. Hillary Clinton tried to fix health care when most of these purity ponies were just an itch in their daddy’s balls. It’s a big part of the reason the right wing spent the next 30 years trying to burn her as a witch and you assholes bought into the witch hunt.

    • BadWolfGirl

      Really?

      ‘Trix is a woman on the edge. You really are A Idiot. A special kind of A Idiot.

      And you really don’t want to get this red-haired Irish Lass going.

      Ya know what?? You’re SO not worth it.

      FUCK OFF TROLL

    • Ahsoka Tano 90

      The only fucking reason that Republicans and Trump have the opportunity to fucking kill 50 million Americans is because assholes like you hate Hillary Clinton more than they do their own country. Talk about out of touch.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Help us, Jill Stein! You’re the only one who can save us!! Oh, wait…

      • Incidentally, it’s noteworthy that Stein has gone radio silent of late and has apparently crawled back into the hole she crawled from (occasionally popping out to offer a distaff version of the whining that Rebecca just railed against.) Just goes to show that “the neoliberals” were right about her.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          Speaking as a neoliberal corporate shill, her whole grift scheme was pretty obvious; based on the accurate assumption that there are ignorant, credulous dupes on the left as well. Not as many as the right, mind you, but they exist.

        • James

          Dr. Stein did her part at that RT dinner with Gen. Flynn. She has her money, she did her part. No need for her to say anything more. Vladimir Putin got what he wanted; she was his “useful idiot.”

          Stein has no more experience in government than Donald Trump does. I have more experience, and am fully aware I would make a lousy president.

    • Concerned poster is concerned!
      Cause…people can not fret about more than one thing at a time!

    • Serai 1
      • cleos_mom

        This is a textbook “Hillary” hater of the left-wing variety. It infested another snarky blog all last year.

        • Serai 1

          No shit. A really clumsy one, too.

    • rebecca

      we’ve written two posts about Hillary clinton in the past month and dozens about health care.

      man we suck.

  • Shibusa
  • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

    Remember how Hillary is supposedly the dangerous murder queen that all of the wingnuts rage-pissed their adult diapers over?

    Shouldn’t this weenuss be afraid of mysteriously meeting his end in a freakish hot-tub installation accident?

    • Marceline

      I’ll believe her murder cred with Bill, Bernie, and Trump are all in the ground.

      • Serai 1

        For somebody who’s supposedly so bloodthirsty, she’s awfully bad at it.

      • cleos_mom

        For me that will be after the celebration, over the last two at least. Scummy wastes of skin, hair, and irritating voices.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        That Anthony Weiner is still alive is proof that she isn’t murdery.

  • Marceline

    One more time for the folks in the cheap seats, if you are whining about how Hillary should just go away then please never use the hashtag #StillShePersisted again because you clearly know fuck all about what it really means.

  • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

    LOOK at him. Look at that smug, self-satisfied, weak, failure of a face, someone who knows he’s never going to be 1/100th the person Hillary is, who’s terrified and never-endingly threatened by her strength, her passion, her intelligence, her accomplishments, her glory. I’ve worked with men like that. They are pure woman-haters. They know in their hearts they are inferior, and they really like the idea that they can say they’re superior because of their genitals. They’ll bully women, like he is, and attack them, like he is. Only the weakest and most pathetic men behave and speak like this, and you can see it in their eyes, long before you’re forced to read what they’ve spewed from their weak, sweaty keyboards.

  • Keith Taylor

    Nothing at all. Except everything.

  • cosmiccowgirl

    Thank you for the cathartic takedown of this asshole, one of many who showed their true misogynistic colors yesterday.

    In the interview yesterday Hillary joked sarcastically about seeking absolution in her book. She knows that a lot of people–mostly men– want her to put on her hair shirt and prostrate herself before them, and her response is fuck you but no.

    You know who should really be apologizing? Anyone who didn’t give her wholehearted and full-throated support when she was standing boldly against the absolute worst of humanity.

    • Roadstergal

      …when she was standing on a stage with the absolute worst of humanity, keeping her cool in the face of having to be smart but not too smart, nice but not too robotic, strong but not too bitchy – while competing for a job she was 100% qualified for and he was 0% so.

      • cosmiccowgirl

        She walked the tightrope backward and in high heels.

  • Skeptical_thinker

    I ain’t scrollin’

    Fuck Cuntsman with a firearm with a red cunt hair trigger.

    With votes, I suppose.

    • CindyinEncinitas

      Yow! Yeah, that!

  • BadWolfGirl

    ‘Trix, I am so sorry that you are still in a fury. So am I. A Idiot therapist advised me to stay off online forums, limit my news intake, blah, blah, blah.

    Yesterday’s assault on Hillz made me realize that I am still furious.

    I am so relieved that I am not alone.

    And please give the brilliant Donna Rose a hug from her Auntie Rose.

  • Ahsoka Tano 90

    If you didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton you owe an apology to the nation, the globe and future generations assuming we survive that Orange Cheeto Putin Prostitute with Dementia that now currently occupies a stolen White House.

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      I’ll entertain that apology as soon as I’m done watering my garden with Brawndo.

  • CindyinEncinitas

    He seems nice.

  • Paperless Tiger

    They done her wrong, and they know it, so now she’s entitled to sing the blues. Bring it on. Her words are music to my ears. Anyway it’s a nice change from the unhinged raving coming out of the White House these days. This lady actually knows what she’s talking about. Imagine that!

  • Nyumbu

    Not going to say anything about his last name. Won’t go there. But, Christ, what an asshole.

  • miss_grundy

    Perhaps the next time this asshat goes out to get lunch he should be kicked in the nards by a Hillary fan and without benefit of votes. Just remember that the New York Post is a Rupert Murdoch tabloid, so you know what you are getting if you read that crap.

    • this country says it’s about

      Fauxed over again?

  • pgjack

    Love the Hillary, sorry she’s not the president. Come says he feels a little sick when he thinks he might have brought on this debacle? He should puke on his boots ’cause he did screw up America. Are these communists that say Hillary ran a terrible campaign saying Trump’s was a good campaign? Really? The orange piece of crap spewed vile racist nonsense, spoke with glee about destroying the environment and lied, lied, lied. So if these creeps want that campaign they definitely do not want good campaigns. Hillary talked a lot about actually governing the country but most media outlets were only interested in the crap thrown against the wall by the fat orange asshole.

  • Tony Prost

    You always hate people you have mistreated. It justifies the mistreatment.

  • Robyn Ryan

    They are still waiting for Jane Fonda to apologize for sitting on the Vietnam Cong’s
    ‘Big Gun.’
    American manhood never fully recovered

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      Jane Fonda did apologize, actually. Military folks still hate her with the heat of a thousand suns though.

  • Jesse

    His name is Kuntzman? Yeah, it is.

  • Delu

    You and your fellow Americans did not vote hard enough Kuntzman, so before you blame Hillary, how about you look at yourselves first. Did YOU do everything possible to avoid a President Trump?

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      It’s true. Disengagement and apathy are big problems in the U.S.

      Citizenship is a participation sport, yo.

      • “I hate when mommy has to nag me to do something but I need her to do it because I can’t do anything unless she whips my ass into shape.”

        Hilariously this “argument” is considered less patronizing than any (mis)quote from Hillz about “deplorables.”

        • Seems straight up legit to me. My lads would not shower if I did not nag them to, nightly.

    • JD Mulvey

      They thought she’d win and assumed they were therefore free to smear her without any repurcussions.

      Will they ever apologize?

      • Nope. It is someone else’s fault forever. Because they, like the right, can’t be wrong. PURITY NOW

    • When you put it this way, I agree with you. Except of course that Hillz did win that pop vote so Americans did vote for her.
      Just not the /right/ ones, apparently.

  • JD Mulvey

    “Bernie Sanders is out there
    fighting. Why isn’t Hillary?”

    This is the latest nonsense Bro talking point that’s been making the rounds.

    All I see is Bernie fighting with the Democratic Party –which he and many of his supporters are still not a member of. I guess if you see the Dems as the real problem, then you celebrate “fighting” Bernie.

    Those of us here in the rational universe see the Democrats not as the root of all evil, but as an imperfect coalition that’s our only chance to save the country. If you want to be in that fight, work with the group that’s fighting it instead of twiddling thumbs on the sideline.

    • Grifter’s gotta grift, JD. How the heck are you gonna get the sniffy psuedo ones to back you if you do not give them someone to look down upon?

    • kfreed

      Really? Bernie is “out there fighting” (?)

      Doesn’t look that way from where I’m sitting:

      “Bernie Sanders says he’ll work with Trump on working class issues”
      http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/bernie-sanders-says-hell-work-with-trump-on-working-class-issues.html

      Is he suffering from dementia or what?

      • cleos_mom

        Is he suffering from dementia or what?

        No; he just knows a gullible cult following when he sees one.

  • I want the people who keep saying that she ran a bad campaign to tell me what Trump’s campaign genius was. Announcing that Mexicans are rapists? Hiding his taxes? Bragging about sexual assault to Billy Bush? Winning lie of the year for his ENTIRE CAMPAIGN because everything he and his minions said was a lie? Sniffing like a coke addict at the debates?

    What in Hillary’s campaign was equal to or worse than any one of those things, let alone all of them and all the rest of the stuff? Between the two of them, Trump ran the worst campaign, easy.

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    Somebody commented on the long list of people that Hillz had killed.

    Allegedly.

    OK, then.

    It’s a target-rich environment, Mrs. Clinton. Trump. Bannon. Priebus. Tillerson. DeVos. Pruitt. Sessions. Ryan. McConnell. Etc..

    RELEASE THE HILDABEAST!!!1!!!1!!one!!!eleven!!

    • She is just as good at being a shady global elitist that murders people dead, as Obama was at being a dictator for life who grabs all the guns

      • JD Mulvey

        Except that Obama’s term-limited out now –so they’re free to concede that he wasn’t too bad after all.

        They still fear Hilz, so the smears continue.

        • TBH I would fear the Hillz too. She knows alllllllll their sekrets.
          All of em.
          I am wondering if Kuntz up there is just worried that her book will spill some things

          • JD Mulvey

            Hillary’s reaction to Gersh Kuntzman’s essay:
            “Who the hell is ‘Gersh Kuntzman’??”

          • MEAN XD
            Though..not gonna lie, that was about my reaction to it to. Then I went oh yeah, that dipshit lolz

          • Begin Anew Day

            Let it rain!

        • Begin Anew Day

          The smears will continue right up to the moment she has a chromosome transplant and upgrades to the XY class model of genetic perfection.

  • JD Mulvey

    “deplorables”

    Yes, a horrible faux pas that led to her ruin. Doesn’t she know that winning campaigns are inclusive of all Americans? You certainly can’t ever become President by making blanket statements that vilify millions of people.

    • Right? Shesh, she shoulda reached out more to the white supremacists, like Trump did with the hispanics, blacks, women, muslims……

    • Serai 1

      Yeah, those poor racists, separatists, and white supremacists. How hurty their poor balls must be!

      • rebecca

        I don’t understand why nobody got he was being sarcastic. you all used to be quite good at it!

        • Serai 1

          Um, I know that, Rebecca. I was being sarcastic WITH him.

    • BigCSouthside

      I’m an atheist. Trump has insinuated many times that I am not a”true American”. The only difference between me and the way he treats muslims is I’m not brown enough to be easy to spot. There are millions of us and millions more minorities, LGBT, and women these douchebags have tried to marginalize for generations, to make us feel like we aren’t even full Americans,

      If you support this fuckstain and the fucking GOP who has done the same shit for years, then fuck you. You are fucking deplorable, and I only hope future generations of your family are so fucking embarrassed by the hollow, thunderously ignorant human being you are that they take time to learn about people outside their goddamn bubble, develop some fucking empathy, and join the 21st century

      • JD Mulvey

        blocked

        • kfreed

          “winning campaigns are inclusive of all Americans”

          “blocked” – very “inclusive” of you :)

          • cleos_mom

            You silly humanoid unit, he meant all real Americans.

          • JD Mulvey

            another block! some people are just too stupid to bother with.

      • James

        I’m also an atheist. Trump isn’t the only one.

        There is the statement (with strong circumstantial evidence to support it) that Geo. HW Bush made: I don’t think atheists can be patriotic, nor should they be citizens.

        Made while I was on an aircraft carrier in the Med.

      • cleos_mom

        There are millions of us and millions more minorities, LGBT, and women
        these douchebags have tried to marginalize for generations, to make us
        feel like we aren’t even full Americans

        In Trumpanzeespeak, making blanket statements that vilify the right millions of people are downright patriotic.

      • rebecca

        he doesn’t support the fuckstain. he was being sarcastic.

        try not to jump straight to “fuck you” when somebody actually agrees with you.

    • britishvoiceman

      Well, it worked for Trump!

    • kfreed

      “You certainly can’t ever become President by making blanket statements that vilify millions of people.”

      See: Trump. See: World History. And she was correct (you’ll be learning that the hard way yourself in the next few years). I look forward to the education of every liberal (or purported liberal) who believes otherwise :)

      • rebecca

        K, pretty sure he was employing the sarcasm.

  • Daisy Sharp

    Yeah these men hate women, and they hate HRC because she’s a woman. They will claim they don’t, after all they like to fuck us, but that leads you right to what happens when you age out of fuckable and can’t cook. But women are leading the resistance to Trump (even though the bros like Michael Moore, Bernie, and Reich leapfrog to the front, penis in hand, and scream “look at me look at me”) and some lessons are gonna be learned in the coming few years. Watch. Scream yell piss your pants online, but you gonna learn.

    • kfreed

      They don’t yet know the meaning of “hell hath no fury…” The swinging dicks around these parts are learning some valuable lessons the hard way, trust me :)

    • @MrsRazor66

      They like to claim, “I voted for HRC, so how can I be a misogynist?” Um, by saying exactly that, right there. That’s how.

      • cleos_mom

        What I’ve been hearing more of is the Elizabeth Warren schtick. You know. “Hillary” is a pushy bitch but the speaker can’t possibly be sexist because “I just love Elizabeth Warren.”:

        These are the witless equivalents of those people in the early 1960s who wanted Jim Crow laws to stay on the books but totally weren’t racists because they’d seen a Sidney Poitier movie.

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          The “I can’t be misogynist because I love Elizabeth Warren” dudes are lying anyway. Their support of Warren is nothing more than deflection. Analysis of Warren’s Senate campaign demonstrates that when she is in focus as the candidate, she is subjected to the same bullshit that HRC got.

          http://electionado.com/canvas/1460241645049

  • Connor

    well, at least all that inchoate rage is offset by Comey’s nausea. Let the healing begin!
    “I voted for Clinton on Nov. 8 and thought she’d be a good president.”
    yeah, i doubt that.

  • mary5920

    It is very interesting to see these self righteous gits go after HC no matter what she does. I admire the lady greatly, since doing some actual reading about her and what she has accomplished in her life (long before Bill Clinton, BTW)
    They can just shut it. Whether it’s her long time support for access for children to health insurance, to shutting down racist academies in the south, to personal letters and support to struggling families, encouragement to women throughout the world in person and in speeches–she’s demonstrated by both words and actions her commitment to making the world better.

  • Debbie the Unpaid Protester

    Gersh is a kuntz

  • Begin Anew Day

    Madame Editrix, please do not ever go changing.

    You are wonderful, marvelous and absolutely PERFECT just the way you are.

    In that you share a lot with Ms. Hillary Clinton.

    And all the haters at the big journals can go fuck themselves. I stopped reading them when they beat the war drums for George H. Bush and his gift to the who-gives-two-shits plutocrats of Kuwait.

    (I am STILL looking at you New York Times. You guys suck.)

  • Little Lulu Ω

    Why does Kuntzman bother to groom that shit on his face when he lets it grow wild up his ass?

  • SeeTrain65

    When you write something so outrageously ignorant and completely nauseating that it leaves me speechless, you’ve done something impressive.

    Well done, Gersh, you sphincter-less dick rash.

  • nope. dude is boring beyond the point of redemption

  • What a bitter and twisted little man. Jealous that Simon and Schuster won’t publish his books or pay him an advance for more books they won’t publish. With a name like that I’m sure is high school and college years were tormented so no wonder he has a shoulder on that chip.

  • James

    I don’t get this “Hillary Clinton should have appealed more to the white working class” nonsense (and presumably throw everyone else in the Democratic Party under the bus). This isn’t a zero-sum game where you have to appeal to white males such as me to the detriment of everyone else.

    I voted for Mrs. Clinton and I was proud to do it, in what Nate Silver described as the House district most likely to go for Donald Trump.

    I’m really tired of all the “Hillary Clinton should have appealed more to the working class” nonsense. I’m working class (disabled enlisted military). She appealed to me.

    I have not yet seen a Republican in my lifetime that gave a diddly damn about the working class (except Eisenhower, but I was far too young to vote for him).

  • Chris

    I just sent a terse email asking him for his columns where he required apologies from Sanders for the primary and Romney, McCain for losing. I don’t think I will hear back.

  • If someone else hasn’t already pointed out the incredibly funny pun that is “Kuntzman”, I will be very disappointed in Wonkette.

    • James

      I has been pointed out repeatedly, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be pointed out again.

  • Ben

    It’s absolutely ridiculous. I don’t think any of these guys really even listen to anything she says or comprehend what happened during this election.

    Maybe because I’m pretty young or because I’m male, or maybe both, but the rampant sexism people like Kuntzman over here and many others display when talking about Hillary Clinton is kind of astounding to me.

    • James

      I’m male (but not so young). It’s pretty much the same issue women have always had to put up with: An assertive, intelligent, informed woman is “pushy” or “bossy.” There were endless articles complaining about Mrs. Clinton’s laughter. Commentary about pant suits.

      Nothing much about Mr. Trump being completely uniformed about anything. He’s apparently the working-man’s billionaire hundredaire. It takes a special talent to bankrupt a casino, so let’s make him President. Gaa.

      • @MrsRazor66

        I’ve always been “pushy” and I remember my own mother telling me that men don’t like women who act like more of the boss than them. I basically said fuck you. My mom is now part of the info wars zombies and I’ve been married for 10 years to a man who doesn’t mind being bossed around. Needless to say she is now the estranged mother… I don’t even trust her around my kids alone or in large doses.

        • cleos_mom

          When I was in high school my mother, who used to claim that she’d never told a lie, tried to talk me into lying to my then-boyfriend (whose name I mercifully can’t remember now) about my SAT score. Because “boys don’t like girls who are smarter than them.”

          When I was old enough that she couldn’t impose any consequences, I used to respond to her chronic claim with “well, you just told your second one at least.”

      • Lisa

        What about his ill-fitting suits and taped together tie? Hardly ever mentioned. Yet every female politician is criticized to no end. And his hair, good god, his hair. Yes, people make fun of it, but it’s not a deal breaker for him. For a woman with bad hair, it usually is. ARGH!

      • Lily412

        Holy shit, I didn’t know the casino went bankrupt. Hahahaha! Oh, man…he’s terrible at everything.

    • kfreed
  • BaTsHiT_cRaZy

    How much money does Trump have? $3.5 Billion according to Forbes. Is that a lot? Well, no. For a Fifth Avenue billionaire with 5 kids and a wife to leave your wealth to, it’s not a lot. I mean, what would it be like to be among other Fifth Avenue billionaires and not have a couple billion together to rub together?

    Trump cares about himself. Being president is a freelance job. The tax code he’s proposing will save his personal business $$$ Millions. It will save his kids $$$ Billions in estate tax. Not to mention the deals he’s got going in other countries, that he intends to promote from the White House. Ivanka meets with world leaders and, voila, new deals. And who knows how much the Kushner’s real estate fortune will grow from Jared’s influence in the WH? Trump even openly praises dictators of other countries he’s doing business in..

    You think that Trump is in it for the good of average Americans? THINK TWICE. Trump’s motto is “Trump First.” Trump’s proposed legislation will benefit Trump. He’s willing to cut off health insurance for sick people — that ought to tell you something right there.

    • britishvoiceman

      What I find truly scary is that 98% of his bases think he’s doing wonderfully and keeping all his campaign promises – WTF??

      • @MrsRazor66

        I know, this baffles and scares the shit out of me. I don’t understand how they can be so brainwashed so quickly and lose all sense of… of… well, did they have any sense of decency before? Maybe that’s key?

        • They do not care. They get to stick it to those “liberals” who won’t “let them” be “christians”
          Economic anxiety my ass.

  • JCfromNC

    The American public does not want a book from Hillary Clinton.

    Welp, now I’m definitely going to have to buy a copy. It can go on my shelf next to Bill’s.

    • kfreed

      Gersh speaks for the public now, does he? LOL. Maybe I’ll buy him his very own copy :)

  • WomanInThePersistence

    So is this a nice, happy troll-free Hillary thread?

    • persistently_resistant_gayby

      Hi WITR, how have you been, my friend..? :)

      • WomanInThePersistence

        I’m OK, thank you. Sitting up, taking nourishment, etc. At the moment Watching “Stop Making Sense” again. Because it makes me all happy and dancy. And how are you?

        • persistently_resistant_gayby

          Sick as fuuuck.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            I’m sorry to hear that. I’m about to light a stick of incense. I can blow the smoke in your general direction, along with my good feelings. Yeah, it’s the hippie version of thoughts and prayers, but it’s all I have. Well, also too *hugs*.

          • James

            I’m burning a stick of tobacco incense but I don’t think that would be very helpful to blow Gayby’s way. I’ll send along “I hope you feel better soon” instead.

          • persistently_resistant_gayby

            Oooh – I love incense! Reminds me of home! Thank you!

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Warm, loving wisps of cinnamon should be drifting southwesternly this minute. (I’m US state of Oregon).

    • James

      Well, there was a concern troll (about five hours ago as of this non-comment), but slapped down pretty quickly.

  • James

    Oooh, My wife is making dinner, she said “Shells and pasta sauce.” I asked her if the shells were canned, and she responded “You Monster.” (She does not read Yr Wonkette – she has to put up with me reading it to her.)

    • WomanInThePersistence

      I like her. And she might fit in around here. Tell me, how does she feel about “pants”?

      • James

        I just asked her on your behalf. She says “when a man pants after a woman, and a woman pants after a man, you have a pair of pants, and you can make beautiful music with that.” She also notes that similar things have been known to work for two men or two women (or multiples thereof).

        • WomanInThePersistence

          She would be a delightful addition to this place. As she sounds a delightful addition to your life.

          • James

            I don’t have to share her do I?

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Well, we’re all pretty communistic around here. You need share her only verbally. And only with her consent.

        • Dazza

          Wow. James, hang on to this woman!

  • Who put Robert Reich in charge of the resistance? https://twitter.com/eclecticbrotha/status/860011089660190720

    • James

      The circle of derp

    • kfreed

      Shorter Reich: “We blew up the country (and probably the world) because ‘revolution’ = instant socialism.” He probably skipped the part in his copy of World History for Dummies explaining what happened to socialists (see Molotov – Ribbentrop) the last time they aided the spread of fascism across the globe.

  • gingerwentworth

    Gersh! I want to hear the names of those novels again! Hitler Would have Double-Parked?
    Adorable!!!
    I think it’s a CRIME, Gersh, that you’ve been passed over by the big publishers in this way. And even the small publishers. That’s a crime too. When I see your perky tie and your cheerful beard, I see what a good kind spirit you are, even while maintaining that discerning critical understanding of things and not letting middle aged women get away with their crooked antics. Keep up the good work on Hillary and keep those novels coming. Joseph Conrad had a slow start too, remember.

  • sweet freedom

    “Gersh” – To completely emasculate yourself, through your own doing, by acting like a weenie to any affront or perceived discomfort regardless of magnitude.

    from the Urban Dictionary

  • WomanInThePersistence

    Have I mentioned recently that the NYT will never see one fucking dime from me ever again?

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      Well, they did employ Judith Miller :)

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  • kfreed

    “she ‘called half the country a basket of deplorables'”

    She was correct. See Trump/GOP agenda and note your RWNJ neighbors cackling with glee at the prospect of the destruction of everything civilized people hold dear.

    Tell Gersh Kuntzman to man up. He might also like to revisit his own bullshit spew for clues as to why he now gets to deal with Trump along with everybody else.

  • NastyBossetti

    How does fainting make someone untrustworthy?
    And since when does a presidential candidate have to be a person who is not “flawed?” Everyfucking one is flawed.

    • Grokenstein

      “Not the candidate I would marry vote for! The candidate I would vote for is perfect in every way! Never compromises! Never falters! Has no support! Has no chance of winning! …Seriously, that last one is super important.”

      • NastyBossetti

        Never faints!

    • cleanplace-reasonablypriced

      I was wondering about that, but not enough to go read the actual article, because fuck this guy, that’s why.

    • phoenix00

      Because Hillary was supposed to be superhuman, perfect, and flawless.

      Fainting? NOOOOOOOOO CAN’T HAVE THAT. Tomato juice too.

  • Grokenstein

    Golly! Kuntzman (me: bites tongue) sounds exactly like all the assholes who stayed home on Election Day or tossed their vote away on Stein and bellowed at the rest of us to do likewise…but now lie in their fucking teeth about how they supported her all the way. “You failed us, you…you nasty ol’ vagina!!”

  • boredcatlady

    “No one deserves more blame…than HRC…
    let me count the ways.”

    Let me count the ways? Who the FUCK are you, Cunt Man?

    that one sentence has inspired me to figure out which martial art teaches you how to punch someone in the throat with straight fingers, you know, so they’re coughing and crying and sputtering? And then go learn that martial art in case this dude ever hits on me in a bar by listing 10 of my obvious faults, and 3 that are probably just “daddy issues that all chicks have.”

    That’s a really drawn out way of saying this guy is begging for a throat punch.

    • Lily412

      Throat-punching with votes, of course.

      • cleos_mom

        And brass knuckles. No reason the two can’t mix.

  • Lily412

    4. “Those Goldman-Sachs speeches. You can’t be a prostitute on Wall Street and then go to church on Main Street.”

    That is textbook sexism. He would never have said that about a man.

    • Finnabar87

      Goldman Sachs was part of Hillary’s constiuency when she was a senator.

      Being paid to speak there was pretty much part of the job.

      The only problem these fellas had with Hillary getting paid to do part of her job is she made coin as a woman, rather than a man.

      • DrGeniusPhD

        Yeah, that’s why nobody at all criticized Obama for taking 400 grand for a speech. Because he’s a man.

        • cleos_mom

          a man caught presidenting while black, genius.

  • Lily412

    What the fuck should Hillary apologize for? She ran a good campaign. The electoral college fucked her over, and the media and James Comey didn’t help. The end.
    And in the event of trolls, I voted for Bernie in the primary.

    • cleanplace-reasonablypriced

      She chose a dreadfully dull, “safe” running mate which disappointed and alienated a lot of people. She shied away from taking on populist policies that *might* have won back some of those non-deplorable Drumpf voters. She deliberately avoided going to hugely important states late in the campaign. She ran a centrist, largely-uninspiring campaign, trusting that having a truly horrific opponent would be enough. These are all, in my opinion, mistakes she made in her campaign.

      I don’t think she should apologize for a single one of them, because since when were presidential candidates expected to apologize for how they campaigned? Oh, yeah: when a woman won the nomination to run for president.

      • DrGeniusPhD

        When they lose to Donald Trump, I don’t think an apology is to much to ask for.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Assuming the 412 part of your username refers to my hometown, welcome to Wonkette, and please be a regular commenter. We need more woke Pittsburghers here, and everywhere!

    • DrGeniusPhD

      How did she run a good campaign? She talked about herself and “her story” more than any other candidate in history.

      Here’s a tip for any aspiring politicians: If you are uncharismatic person that generally doesn’t appeal to most people, try sticking to the issues.

      • cleos_mom

        Yes, doesn’t everyone despise politicians who talk about themselves?

        It’s disgusting, truly disgusting, the way some people politicize politics.

  • mardam422

    Fuck him. That is all.

  • cleos_mom

    At this point, the only people in this self-fucked country I hate more than Trump and his supporters are Saint Bernard and his.

    • Daniel Kalban

      Agreed.

    • Craic
    • iceweasels

      I support policies he’s trying to get passed, but it’s pointless. His supporters will destroy any chance he has of a diverse coalition.

      • Panika MCD

        you have to file legislation at some point and play nice enough to get a hearing for said legislation if you really want to get anything passed. he’s not really trying and he’s been around too long to play dumb.

        • iceweasels

          I know. And that’s the only reason he’s so popular right now. The minute he starts serious accomplishing anything the attacks will start. And his supporters have no idea how to behave in public, so that will pretty much be the end of it before it even starts.

          • Panika MCD

            he’s too much of a dick to get a hearing for his bills which is why he’s not going to accomplish anything. don’t get me wrong–having a firebrand around is helpful in some respects. but we want him saying the things that those who are actually going to do the work can’t say. we don’t want him saying the things that we point to and say, “hey, at least we’re not nuts like that!”

          • iceweasels

            That’s why I’m saying if he had taken leadership on the completely overt racist vote suppression after people were already reeling from the worst potus in the world, he could have really gotten the issue to the forefront. But he didn’t bother, because he’s never really understood racial issues. Hillary should have too, to be fair, and didn’t.

          • Panika MCD

            racist voters suppression laws benefited Bernie–that’s why he doesn’t take them on. Hillary’s campaign did a lot of work with local parties ensuring that even if they couldn’t overturn the laws (the courts have a way of saying, “oh, it’s too close to the election to ask you to change your racisms! try better to hide your racisms next time, please!” though they did make voter ID less vile in TX for the last election) and she’s long been a champion of voter registration drives–heck, she and Bill spent a summer or two when they were young ones registering voters in the Rio Grande Valley. this is one of those things where if she highlights her voter reg and turn-out efforts, she’s told she’s bragging, shrill and pandering; if she stays quiet about it and just makes sure it’s part of the campaign, she gets accused of not doing it at all.

          • iceweasels

            And even now I hear Bernie saying things that indicate he STILL hasn’t learned that fixing the economy won’t fix the racism. Meanwhile, fools on the left and the right pretend this is some American problem, like it wasn’t almost exclusively white people who voted for Trump. Black people were having none of it, yet still these idiots won’t address how we got here.

      • Chuck Finley

        It’s sites like THIS ONE and people who cling to a HORRIBLY FLAWED CANDIDATE like Hillary that causes the division. She had her chance – TWICE – and lost to a black guy named Hussien and a con man named Donald. When will yall get it through your heads – PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE HILLARY CLINTON!

        • iceweasels

          No. What causes the division is people who are so obsessed with not liking Hillary Clinton that they make that an excuse to harass people with racism and misogyny. I observed and personally experienced Sanders supporters doing that for months on end, and it was fucking disgusting. But go ahead. Tell I’m a liar. Demand I come with some “proof” that you’ll find acceptable.

          I watched a Sanders supporter on TYT say just a day or two ago that if Le Pen won the French election it was all about banking corruption, and had NOTHING TO DO WITH RACISM. He went on to say the same thing about Trump winning. Sanders supporters saying electing a neon-nazi, anti-immigrant fascist has nothing to do with racism because Hillary Clinton is exactly the kind of cluelessness about racism I’ve come to expect.

          • Pisto75666

            To be fair though, not entirely unexpected because Sanders doesn’t even believe black people exist. Because free college for everybody is much more important than say, Black Lives Matter.

          • iceweasels

            He hasn’t done his homework. He believes fixing economic oppression will fix the other kinds of oppression. There is a lengthy historical record showing that’s not how racism works, had he bothered to study it.

          • Pisto75666

            Who needs studying when you can blather on about stolen electors, and have tons of uninformed people backing you up? Another thing, don’t get me wrong because I’m very nearly an old, but didn’t his political career not even start until he was around 40? I honestly don’t get people like him and Jill Stein. IMO you can’t come in and just want the Presidency (or any major post) without doing SOME sort of heavy lifting along the way.

    • DrGeniusPhD

      It’s understandable. Bernie Sanders and his supporters are a constant reminder about how wrong Hillary Clinton supporters were about everything. I can see why that bothers you.

      • cleos_mom

        Well, your user name is a reminder, but not the kind you want to think.

      • cleos_mom

        Honeychile, staples that are impossible to get out of paperwork at my job bother me. Birds that poop on my car overnight bother me. Trolls are just a source of cheap laughs and creative replies.

    • Chuck Finley

      Bernie will win the presidency in 2020 – Hillary will hopefully be dead by then – she’s certainly dead to me. SHE COST US THE PRESIDENCY AND HANDED IT TO DONALD TRUMP! What is wrong with you people – how can you not see this. Oh that’s right – it’s purely cause SHE’S A WOMAN – and that’s it. Name ONE position of hers that was better than Bernie’s – just one. What’s that you can’t – yeah I didn’t think so.

      • cleos_mom

        What do you have planned for a celebration when she dies?

  • Craic
  • tegrat

    But see, we must exonerate Gersh from any misogyny because c’mon after all he voted for her.

    • Alexander Stallwitz

      I call bullshit on that, i bet money he voted for Trump.

  • Mary

    The media prostituted itself because Hillary hate, sold. Then they have the audacity to call their victim a whore. You can’t make this stuff up.

  • Alexander Stallwitz
  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    It will never matter how many times she apologizes for not winning. It will never matter how many times she apologizes for any mistake she’s ever made. It will never matter because she will never apologize for what really made these bros angry and scared. What made them angry and afraid is Hillary being a female who knows she can do important things, and who goes out and does them. What made them angry and afraid is the way she inspired girls and women to know the same thing about ourselves. They will never forgive her for that.

    • DrGeniusPhD

      There’s a difference between doing important things and doing important things well. Healthcare was important in the 80s. Hillary stood up and took on that job! and failed.

      The march to war when Hillary Clinton was a senator was pretty important. And Hillary stood up and said “I stand behind George Bush”. She didn’t just vote for the war. She campaigned for it.

      The middle east was pretty important when Obama took over the presidency. Hillary took on that job as Secretary of State! and failed. How much better off would we all be today if John Kerry had the job from the beginning? spoiler: much better off.

      • cleos_mom

        As opposed to health care not being “important” now. That’s why no one was talking about it this week.

    • Chuck Finley

      She was a horrible candidate – and it’s very disturbing to see The Cult Of Hillary here continue to keep making excuses for her many, many, many failures.

      • cleos_mom

        Not a surprising POV from someone who said, before the election that

        “Bernie will win the presidency in 2020 – Hillary will hopefully be dead by then”.

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        That’s right. You keep calling Hillary supporters cult members while you ritually stroke and kiss your favorite autographed photo of your fake hippie savior, who didn’t get the votes he needed to be our candidate, and tell yourself how much everyone hates Hillary.

  • A Taylor
  • Finnabar87

    How much did Al Gore apologize, again?

    • DrGeniusPhD

      Al Gore did something much, much better than apologizing: He went away.

      • Chuck Finley

        DrGeniusPhD – FTW!

  • going4baroque

    hmmm, it might be interesting to ask if there are any politicians seeking election that are considering hiring Mook or Podesta to manage their campaigns. I don’t think that’s gonna happen. And we all know why. Poorly run campaign. Badly run. Obama called it: political malpractice.

  • ChrisTS

    How come we are invited to “join the conversation” with Gerp, but there is no conversation?

    • rebeccagavin

      All you can do is send a letter to the editor, which I did, and I encourage everyone to do.

  • El_Pinche

    I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again. Hillary has chunks of guys like Kuntman in her stool.

    • vanessacompton

      What does that even mean?

      • El_Pinche

        Hillary has balls. Hillary has killed men with her mind bullets. Hillary has built a protective husk from 30+ years of man-boys with daddy issues beating on her.

        • vanessacompton

          Got it. The Wonkette take on human anatomy is not always immediately accessible. I will refrain from grabbing anything dangly.

          • rebeccagavin

            Hillary Clinton has shit out better examples of manhood than creepy Kuntzman.

        • Raina Dawn

          You are on some weird drugs.

    • DrGeniusPhD

      Yeah that’s a fun thing to say isn’t it? You have any examples? You know, instances where Hillary Clinton has stood up to fight for us and won?

      • Chuck Finley

        No, they don’t, because she hasn’t. These people – this site – they are the sexist ones. They are ONLY standing up for Hillary the Horrible BECAUSE she is female. That is sexist. Congrats for outing yourselves as sexists Wonkettes! It should not MATTER if the person is male or female – all that should matter is – do they have superior ideas? This election – Bernie Sanders clearly had the superior ideas – and yet people on this site still supported the worst candidate I’ve ever seen in my lifetime in Hillary – why is that? Because THIS SITE is sexist. Thank god for Hillary’s “firewall of black people” – her words, not mine – because if it wasn’t for the fact that her husband played saxaphone on Arsenio 25 years ago – we would have had Bernie Sanders as president right now! THAT is what should be making these people mad – yet like their horrilbe Hillary – it seems that many of these people have LEARNED NOTHING!

        • El_Pinche

          That’s cool.

      • cleos_mom

        You have any examples? You know, instances where Hillary Clinton has stood up to fight for us and won?

        Here’s a few.

        She played a leading role in the development of State Children’s
        Health Insurance Program, which provides the much-needed state support
        for children whose parents cannot afford nor provide them with adequate
        healthcare coverage.

        She was also instrumental in the creation of the Adoption and Safe Families Act and the Foster Care Independence Act.

        Successfully fought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and asthma at the National Institute of Health (NIH).

        She spearheaded investigations into mental illness plaguing veterans of the Gulf War; we now have a term for it – Gulf War Syndrome.

        At the Department of Justice, she helped create the office on Violence Against Women.

        She was instrumental in securing over $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center redevelopment.

        Took a leading role in the investigation of health consequences of first
        responders and drafted the first bill to compensate and offer the health services our first responders deserve (Clinton’s successor in the Senate, Kirsten Gillibrand, passed the bill).

        Was instrumental in working out a bi-partisan compromise to address civil liberty abuses for the renewal of the U.S. Patriot Act.

        Proposed a revival of the New Deal-era Home Owners’ Loan Corporation to help homeowners refinance their mortgages in the wake of the 2008 financial disaster.

        Was a major proponent of sensible diplomacy which brought about a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, and brokered human rights with Burma.

        Oversaw free trade agreements with our allies such as Panama, Colombia, and South Korea.

        Was the most traveled Secretary of State to date.

        The Clinton Foundation, founded by her and her husband, has improved the living conditions for nearly 400 million people in over 180 countries through its Initiative program.

        http://addictinginfo.com/20

  • thiết kế web đà nẵng

    See the details of her FBI letter here : http://minhquangweb.com/

  • boredcatlady
  • rebeccagavin

    I read the original article and was moved to write this letter to the editor of the Daily News:

    To the Editor:

    If the NY Daily News has even a modicum of the liberal cred and reputation for integrity that it is rumored to have, it will atone for publishing that bombastic, self-important drivel by Gersh Kuntzman, about Hillary Clinton. Kuntzman, whose name may now become the textbook definition of modern misogyny. opens his poison-pen epistle by saying he voted for Clinton because he thought she would make a good president. Then he appears to demonstrate his own self-appointed poor judgement in that decision by masticating and spewing said potentially good president for having lost an election (barely) in which there were unprecedented obstacles thrown in her path like a rosary of IEDs.

    According to Kuntzman, she should not be speaking honestly about these heretofore unimagined factors that contributed to her defeat, she should be groveling at his feet, begging his forgiveness unto eternity. Contemplating Mr. Kutzman’s photo, combined with the arrogant post-sexism that propagates like fungus throughout his column, I suddenly have a new understanding of the word “peremptory.”

    In truth, his sentiments are nothing I haven’t seen in a hundred online comments, so they aren’t original. I am just very surprised to see someone willing to attach their name and journalistic credibility to such ugly, mindless, waving of his male appendage.

    Perhaps the Daily News could reprint Rebecca Schoenkopf’s excellent retort from Wonkette. (https://wonkette.com/616573/hillary-clinton-bringing-out-mens-scary-spitty-rage-strokes-again-by-existing-what-a-bitch)

  • Shelli Kae

    Yep, this person is a piece of shit! Hillary won the popular vote and that should tell ALL Americans that something is just not right. She lost by a very small percentage in the states that flipped to Trump. I really have a problem with the fact that most of the states that always voted blue turned red. Really? Give me a break! Clinton. deserves the presidency, she got fucked by Comey and the fucking Russians! That is a fact whether this man who wrote the article is denying it or not. What the piece of shit should write about is how the election was stolen from a woman who would have “MADE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN”!

    • DrGeniusPhD

      Yeah, she won the popular vote, but there were plenty of people like me that don’t like her at all but held our noses and voted for her.

      So next time you want to trumpet her popularity by using the popular vote, maybe think about two things: 1. Around half the people in the country didn’t vote at all. 2. Plenty of people that voted for Clinton did so only because she was up against the second worst presidential candidate of all time.

      • Chuck Finley

        Same here! I held my vote and voted for that Hillary – the WORST candidate I’ve ever seen in my lifetime – only to watch her fail us all. I wonder if these women ever even saw a Bernie Sanders rally – they were HUGEEE! Cause I did see a Hillary rally – no scratch that – they had to re-market it as a town hall because NOBODY SHOWED UP TO SEE HILLARY THE HORRIBLE. You ladies here act like it’s OUR fault Hillary was such a horrible candidate and person – it’s not – it’s one person’s fault and one alone – Hillary’s. Just think – if it wasn’t for Hillary – WE WOULD HAVE A DEMOCRAT AS PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW! Hillary sucks and she will NEVER ever ever get another vote from me – nor will I vote for ANY candidate she supports with her new PAC she started this week. Hillary is as divisive as she is incompetent – and if the Dems don’t ditch her – Bernie will take his HUGE amount of supporters – start a 3rd party – and WIN without the Democrats in 2020. The Democrats are SO lucky Bernie is still willing to work with them – yet they seem not to want him and are probably going to screw this up too!

        • DrGeniusPhD

          Bernie’s not starting a third party. Let’s not talk fantasy.

          Here’s the thing: if we had two totally new candidates next time around and one espoused the dogma of Sanders and one espoused the dogma of Clinton, almost all of these Hillary fan girls would would be supporters of the Sanders acolyte (as long as the candidate didn’t actually mention Sanders).

          Hillary fans aren’t bad people at heart. They just loooooove them some Hillary. If they have the choice between someone demanding a living wage and economic equality on one side and someone preaching cautious incrementalism combined with military interventionism on the other side, most of them are going to choose the former.

          They’ve disassociated Hillary Clinton with her policy intentions and past record. It’s a form of derangement. They love the idea of Hillary The President. They aren’t actually going to support her ideas in the form of a different person. And to be completely frank, there aren’t many 1980s Reagan democrats left to take up the mantle.

  • Raina Dawn

    She’s a demon from the pit of hell, you shill.

    • guest

      KellyAnn CONway is that you?

      • Raina Dawn

        No, she’s blowing your dad. First she has to locate that weenis of his…

        • guest

          Good for him. He’s 90 years old and has dementia. You can vicariously through her to get your thrill Comrade.

    • Hairstrike Alpha

      Ayn Rand was a dumb asshole who collected social security like a common moocher. Also, Donald Trump let Russian prostitutes pee on him

      • Raina Dawn

        You are a POS spreading lies but probably on mental disability and you can get a few coins on the side from Soros. Apparently you don’t understand the law of cause and effect.

        • Hairstrike Alpha

          So says the idiot who worships a third rate Russian moron who thought a criminal sociopath that murdered a child he kidnapped because he said he felt like it was an evolved specimen.

          Oh and Trump has gone bankrupt many times, has small hands and a mouth that Putin likes to rest his balls in.

        • doktorzoom

          There are some trolls who are so spectacularly vapid they don’t even merit mention in Dear Shitferbrains. Congratulations! You’re among them!

          — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

        • cleos_mom

          “Soros….. Soros….. Soros….. AHHHH-LINSKY!

          Gesundheit (ist bester als die Krankheit).

        • Hairstrike Alpha

          Stop upvoting yourself, Randroid. Did I mention Donald Trumps “success” was likely the result of being basically a money laundering front for corrupt autocrats and Russian gangsters?

  • guest

    People who can DO-like Hillary Clinton. People who can’t, like Gersh Kuntzman, write worthless mindless character assassination pieces. I wonder if he is one of the 1000 Russian Trolls that Putin hired to assassinate Clinton character and reputation online back in 2016. Read Clint Watts testimony to congress where he discloses many fact about social media being hijacked by Russian Trolls hired by Putin. Gersh Kuntzman seems to fit the bill. He also discloses the Bernie Bros that are still all over liberal sites such as AlteNet, Raw, Mediate and a few others are also Russian Bots. There job is to continue to perpetuate a division between liberals, progressives and independents to make sure the left stays fractured for the 2018 elections. Also to to distract from The Trump-Russiagate investigations.

    • DrGeniusPhD

      The only thing causing a division in the democratic party is Hillary Clinton. If she goes away, the division goes away.

      • BBStevens

        Wrong.

      • Chuck Finley

        This is true. There is NO path forward for The Democrats as long as Hillary the Horrible keeps hanging around running the rest of us off. She’s a TWO TIME LOSER who needs to just hang it up and go be a grandma.

        • guest

          Still reading the Putin troll propaganda huh? Or are you one of the 1,000 trolls that Putin hired to spread propaganda about Clinton that Clint Watts testified to:

          -Russia hired 1,000 people to create anti-Clinton ‘fake news’ in key US states during election, Trump Russia hearings leader reveals:
          Independent UK

          -VLAD’S NOT NICE: Russia ‘hired 1,000 internet trolls to create fake news sites spreading lies about Hillary Clinton during US election’
          The Sun UK

          -It looks like Russia hired internet trolls to pose as pro-Trump Americans: Business Insider

      • guest

        That seems to be the troll talking points for the last few weeks. Tell your Boss Vlad Putin, she’s not going away. Tell him Clint Watts says hello!

  • DrGeniusPhD

    I don’t like her because she hasn’t really accomplished anything of note other than be married to a president. She failed to get anything done with health care during her husband’s presidency. She’s never won an election that wasn’t handed to her. She did a poor job as Secretary of State, especially when compared to her successor John Kerry.

    How exactly is this person qualified to be president?!

    And, let’s pretend for a moment that she is qualified. She’s a horrible candidate! Unfortunately the way our political system works, you need to have at least a little bit of charisma to get elected before you get the job. People don’t like Hillary Clinton. Sorry! Yeah, a small percentage of you love her for some reason… I guess she’s some kind of role model for people who want to marry into power rather than accomplish anything for themselves?

    There does happen to be an incredible role model for young women out there, someone who made her own career rather than marrying into fame: Elizabeth Warren. How about we get behind someone who is not only qualified, but also cares more about the people in this country than her own career aspirations.

    • BBStevens

      Yes, like bernie Sanders accomplished so much. Elizabeth Warren used to be republican , now Democrat, and is polling poorly in Mass for sometime now, care to explain? And hey I like Elizabeth, but since we’re being forced to choose the better one here right, between all the ambitious female democrats amirite, care to explain?

      Yes Hillary has accomplished much as SoS, as First Lady, as Senator.

      Not our fault you’re ignorant.

      • DrGeniusPhD

        Please, inform me. Tell me about the things Hillary Clinton accomplished as Secretary of State.*

        * Don’t list the Syrian refugee crisis because I consider that a bad thing. Also, I don’t believe the amount of money you are able to solicit from dictatorships for your charity fund to be a positive measurement of success for a Secretary of State.

        • Hairstrike Alpha

          Being contrary is not the same thing as being right, Jill. Also, tell Vlad he’s still a human rights abusing midget ass goblin who should be removed from power, tried and imprisoned in the smallest, darkest cell for life.

        • BBStevens

          Why are you asking a stupid question? There are resources online to find out. I ain’t feeding you nothing. You’re a hater. If I could spend the fucking time to look at the complete voting record, the bills , the policy the woman implemented at the state department, and read biographies, read what those who worked with her had to say about her work ethic and devotion as a public servant, you could do the fucking same. I know exactly the type of mindset that asks a dumbass question like “what has she done” – it’s a lazyass mindset.

          And none of what you say is true because your spin is inherently antagonistic. I am tired debunking the fucking bullshit arguments. And the Clinton Foundation is a laudable organisation.

        • Jane

          Good grief – do you think we’re all your research assistants? Inform yourself for gods sake.

    • cleos_mom

      Here’s a partial list of her accomplishments.
      All of which, of course, are eclipsed by her unacceptable birth defect (absence of a penis):

      Even though her major initiative, the Clinton healthcare plan, failed (due to Republican obstruction), you cannot deny that it laid ground for what we have today, the Affordable Healthcare Act, something Clinton supports and would continue.

      She played a leading role in the development of State Children’s Health Insurance Program, which provides the much-needed state support for children whose parents cannot afford nor provide them with adequate healthcare coverage.

      She was also instrumental in the creation of the Adoption and Safe Families Act and the Foster Care Independence Act.

      Successfully fought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and asthma at the National Institute of Health (NIH).

      She spearheaded investigations into mental illness plaguing veterans of the Gulf War; we now have a term for it – Gulf War Syndrome.

      At the Department of Justice, she helped create the office on Violence Against Women.

      She was instrumental in securing over $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center redevelopment.

      Took a leading role in the investigation of health consequences of first responders and drafted the first bill to compensate and offer the health services our first responders deserve (Clinton’s successor in the Senate, Kirsten Gillibrand, passed the bill).

      Was instrumental in working out a bi-partisan compromise to address civil liberty abuses for the renewal of the U.S. Patriot Act.

      Proposed a revival of the New Deal-era Home Owners’ Loan Corporation to help homeowners refinance their mortgages in the wake of the 2008 financial disaster.

      Was a major proponent of sensible diplomacy which brought about a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, and brokered human rights with Burma.

      Oversaw free trade agreements with our allies such as Panama, Colombia, and South Korea.

      Was the most traveled Secretary of State to date.

      The Clinton Foundation, founded by her and her husband, has improved the living conditions for nearly 400 million people in over 180 countries through its Initiative program.

      http://addictinginfo.com/2015/04/13/heres-a-list-of-hillary-clintons-accomplishments-so-quit-saying-she-doesnt-have-any/

    • Jane

      just because she doesnt appeal to you doesnt mean she has “no charisma”. I happen to like her a lot. As do millions of other people. Elizabeth Warren is ok but threw Obama under the bus like everyone else did when she thought it would benefit her. She lost my respect at that moment. Hillary clearly cares about her country and it’s people. It only takes a little unbiased research to discover that

  • DrGeniusPhD

    Hillary Clinton is the John McCain of the left. Neither one stands for anything, but they get a lot of head nods from the media by pretending they do.

    • BBStevens

      whatever that means “Stands for something” one of the laziest things ever written.

  • cleos_mom

    I’m sure I’m not the first reader to suspect that “Kuntsman” reflects a certain amount of wishful thinking.

  • DrGeniusPhD

    This is a typical Hillary thread. In it you will find all kinds of information about how tough Hillary Clinton is, how she never backs down, how she is actually very popular and a great role model for women.

    What you will not find in this thread is the mention of anything Hillary Clinton has actually ever accomplished in her long career.

    But Hillary is the best! Why can’t you understand it when we keep repeating it?!

    • Jane

      how about you do your own research buddy and look up what she has done in her career. It’s easy to find.

  • melanctha

    Amen. Could not have been better stated.

  • Chuck Finley

    Hillary did do the ONE thing people thought impossible – she LOST to Donald (Ugh) Trump! You know – the jerk (our current prez now – thnx Hillary) who would have lost by DOUBLE DIGITS to either Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders according to RealClearPolitics latest polls. You little girls here need to grow up. We don’t hate Hillary cause she’s a woman – in fact many of us would have voted for Elizabeth Warren or Tulsi Gabbard. The reason we hated Hillary is because she was incompetent, a war monger, a 3rd Way/DLC stooge, she called black people Superpredators – and she had the nerve to think she could give MILLION dollar speeches to BILLIONAIRE bankers – and yet not allow us to know what she said – but still wanting our votes. NO – We hated Hillary because she was a TERRIBLE candidate – she stood with Wall St and the Big Banks over you – but you STILL like this horrible person – and you know why and only why? CAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN! And here’s the kicker – MANY of us “horrible white men” voted for her anyways – knowing the damage Trump could cause! Yall are doing the exact thing you claim to hate about “white men” – just in reverse. Would you be so tied to this person were she not a woman? Yeah I didn’t think so. Putting gender above doing what’s right – that’s yall – and you know what that makes you? A sexist. (Mic drop).

    • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

      You poor thing. Will you be OK? Should we call someone for you?

      • BBStevens

        How sad is that eh

    • Nick

      It’s so adorable how wrong you are

      • cleos_mom

        And isn’t it adorable how they use Elizabeth Warren as a heterosexual beard and reallyandtruly think no one will notice?

    • BBStevens

      whaaambulance. The usual bullshit “corporatist” … “shill” ..memes. STFU.

    • BBStevens

      Bernie Sanders would not have won. And if Biden is more palatable to you, you’re more ignorant that you let off. Hillary would have been tougher on Wall St, they did not want her to win.

      And don’t bring up superpredators, she didn’t even vote that bill which Sanders VOTED For and which Biden WROTE. You have no fucking idea what the situation in the 90’s was, you have done no reading to give you any kind of context, or why the CBC even voted for it.. you’re just another keyboard lame-oh parroting talking points you picked up on reddit.

      So you can fuck right the fuck off.

      You helped Trump win with your hate, so go suck your thumb in a corner.

    • Marceline

      “Would you be so tied to this person were she not a woman?”

      You mean like the way I’m “tied” to Barack Obama? Sherrod Brown? Joe Biden? Cory Booker? Al Franken? John Lewis? Or any of the other many. many male candidates I have enthusiastically supported if not with my vote then at least with my cash?

      But you know what man I’ll never support unless the Nazis are the alternative? The treacherous fake ally known as Bernie Sanders. Fortunately his “revolution” seems to be headed the way of Ron Paul’s and the sooner, the better.

    • Jane

      Wow!!! Just wow!!! This is what Hillary is constantly having to deal with. As an Australian following your recent election campaign and the events since, I am deeply shocked and disgusted at the bizarre vitriol people spew when it comes to Hillary. SO I took myself off and researched the accusations hurled at her only to find most had NO basis in fact, many were fabricated (via wikileaks) and a few had some basis – but were about political decisions & events no different to those of all her male colleagues and in fact far less troublesome than most. Then I read up on all the gazillion great things she has done for thousands of people and the personal stories of people who have been helped by her & inspired by her compassion and dedication. The ONLY conclusion I could reach for this almost violent hatred of Hillary, particularly amongst men on both the left and the right, was that some people had massive problems with a strong capable woman running for President who did not even have the good grace to be a reasonable bit of eye candy so the blokes could objectify her. So now she is supposed to grovel for forgiveness for running an honest, straightforward campaign while nobody else did and then feel grateful that misogynistic twats like you hate her. And anyone who tells you otherwise only does so “coz she’s a woman”. It’s all about her being a woman to you isn’t it. You just can’t get past that.

  • Jane

    And the comment section proves the point of the article so well.

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