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How’s this for romantic? Back on January 20, Marc and Elizabeth Hokoana, a couple of sweet young folks in Seattle who think Donald Trump is the bees’ knees and the world’s snowflakes, libtards, and commies need to learn a lesson, spent some quality time together by going to a Milo Yiannopoulos speech at the University of Washington. Oh, not to hear their favorite gay white nationalist provocateur talk; they didn’t want that. They went to see if they could provoke a good fight with some liberal snowflakes, to prove the violence inherent in the system is all perpetrated by filthy leftists. Marc had a can of pepper spray, and Elizabeth had a Glock, and they were ready to rumble. By the end of the evening, Mark had sprayed several protesters in the face, and Elizabeth had shot Joshua Dukes, a 31-year old gent who’d been trying to break up a confrontation between Milo fans and protesters. Dukes suffered multiple internal injuries and spent several weeks in the hospital, but survived. After months of investigation, the Hokoanas were charged in King County Monday: First degree assault with a firearms enhancement for Elizabeth, and third-degree assault for Marc. The couple that assaults together … well, you know the rest!

According to prosecutors, the Hokoanas planned to look for trouble — or as their defense claims, they were ready to defend themselves from liberal thugs outside the lecture. A Facebook conversation cited in the charging document certainly suggests Marc was planning to beat on some snowflakes who fail to understand that Donald Trump is their president so they have to shut up forever now:

The charging documents say the Hokoanas went looking for trouble, that Marc did his very best to stir it up, and that Elizabeth was looking for a chance to shoot someone. During the protest, Marc messaged Milo Yiannopoulos to report a mean snowflake had snatched away his red “Make America Great Again” hat (which is theft and bad and we don’t endorse that sort of thing); he asked Milo to send him a new one, but Milo never replied.

One witness cited in the charging document, “B.F.,” told UW Police he’d seen Marc Hokoana — who he believed was intoxicated — repeatedly trying to provoke reactions from the protesters:

“B.F.” also said he’d spoken with Hokoana earlier in the evening and told him to go home because he was drunk, and that “the man seemed to be there only to provoke the crowd.” Another witness, “D.T.” said Marc Hokoana had asked him and a friend to “stand in front of him so he could use mace against an individual or the crowd,” but that he refused, after which he saw a woman who was with Hokoana stand in front of him while he sprayed mace from behind her.

Video submitted by the Southern Poverty Law Center shows Marc Hokoana repeatedly goading protesters, getting in their faces, and demanding they replace his stolen hat, which the crowd was collectively responsible for stealing (they’re commies, after all, and the site on the UW campus is actually called Red Square).

At about the two-minute mark, Elizabeth Hokoana can be briefly be seen (on the left) while Marc talks to a Trump supporter who’d been hit with a blue paintball pellet; the detective says the way she reached with her right arm, behind her her jacket, “was consistent with a person who was attempting to pull a concealed pistol from a holster.” Here’s a still for those of you who want to shout “ENHANCE!” at your computers:

That possible reaching-for-a-gun moment was about a half hour before the shooting; maybe Ms. Hokoana was just scratching her itchy trigger finger.

There’s not any really clear video of the actual shooting, though another video does catch the sound of the shot and the crowd reacting as police surround Dukes to help him. The Seattle Times has a video provided by the prosecutor’s office which shows the moment of the shooting and identifies Dukes and the Hokoanas; we can’t really see what’s going on, but Dukes was reportedly confronting Marc Hokoana after Hokoana pepper-sprayed someone when Elizabeth Hokoana shot him. The Hokoanas turned themselves in about two hours after the shooting and claimed Elizabeth had shot Dukes in self-defense. That’s not how the King County prosecutors see it:

“The degree of planning involved in this crime demonstrates the danger that these defendants present to the community,” wrote Senior Deputy Prosecutor Mary Barbosa […]

The shooting, Barbosa noted, “was not an impulsive act done in a moment of fear.”

Evidence in the charging papers “demonstrates that the defendants went to the event at the UW campus with the intent to provoke altercations with protesters who they knew would be at this controversial event,” Barbosa wrote.

“The defendants created a situation designed to allow Elizabeth Hokoana to shoot the victim in the middle of an extremely crowded event under the guise of defending her or her husband,” she added.

Needless to say, the Hokoanas’ attorneys issued a joint statement insisting everything that happened was in self-defense, OBVIOUSLY.

“We have provided the police and the prosecution evidence showing that our clients acted lawfully in defense of others,” the statement said. “The accuser, Joshua Dukes, has repeatedly stated that he does not want this to go through the criminal-justice system. We are disappointed that the prosecution has decided otherwise. We look forward to presenting our case to a jury and we anticipate an acquittal.”

Dukes, the big ol’ IWW peacenik, has said through his attorney, Sarah Lippek, that his preference would be for a process of “restorative justice” that would be better for healing, not just for Dukes, but for his assailants:

“Being shot was devastating for Mr. Dukes, his family, and his community. The Hokoanas harmed many people by their violent actions,” Lippek wrote.

Dukes hopes the couple will take accountability for their actions, Lippek wrote, as well as taking weapons into “already unstable circumstances” and escalating the violence.

Restorative justice, Lippek explained, would allow for dialogue between the victim and those who’ve done harm, and would give the Hokoanas the chance to truly take responsibility in a way the criminal justic system, being purely punitive, would not.

Gotta appreciate the sentiments of the nice hippie and his lawyer, but we have a feeling the Hokoanas wouldn’t be all that impressed by such snowflake methods of seeking justice. As Trump supporters, they surely want law and order, so we’re certain they’ll respect Elizabeth’s possible ten-year sentence for assault. You just have to be tough with some of these people. In the old days, they’d be carried out on a stretcher, folks.

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  • From Russia with Love

    An armed society is a polite society.

  • Wild Cat

    Lock them up and throw away the key, as their hero Rush Limbaugh would say about anyone but himself.

    And then lock the rest up and throw away the keys.

    • C4TWOMAN

      Melt the keys down and cast into some form of public art dedicated to Black Lives Matters. Or whatever.

  • chascates

    The couple that riots together will stay together, in separate cells.

    • Wild Cat

      And produce Peephole Porn, Comrade!

      • kindness

        You mean prison gloryhole porn? There probably is a market for that but it won’t be with their spouse.

  • memzilla Ω

    Marc had a can of pepper spray, and Elizabeth had a Glock…

    These are the opening lyrics to a song that needs to be written.

    • timpundit

      Sound like the beginning of a Butthole Surfers Song.

      • From Russia with Love

        Or the Sex Pistols.

        • TJ Barke

          Fake punks.

      • weejee

        Glocks and cucks?

      • The Flaming Carrot

        Or the Dead Milkmen.

      • Rivvi Kordia

        Black Flag.

    • Bobathonic

      The Ballad of The Bowling Green Massacre

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      I thought John Mellencamp had already written that.

      • timpundit

        “here’s a little ditty about Jack and Diaaaaane. Two white supremacists who will soon be in the can.”

    • Ryan Denniston

      Reminded me of a pithy knockoff of this opener.

      “He was a hard-headed man he was brutally handsome
      And she was terminally pretty”

    • Carpe Vagenda

      only to find the Anarchist’s Bible.

      • TJ Barke

        Less anarchist, more fascist.

    • Resistance Ftr PuckStopsHere

      “We got married in a fever, hotter than some pepper spray.
      We’ve been talking ’bout shooting hip-ees, ever since the fire went out…”

    • OddMan

      ♫ ♪ Marc had a can of pepper spray, and Elizabeth had a Glock
      She was a bad ass woman, he was just a cock.
      They went a lookn’ for snowflakes down at Milo’s talk
      And now they are a doing an old fashioned perp walk.
      ♫ ♪

    • chimichanga

      “Here’s a little ditty ’bout Marc and Lily.
      Two American kids actin’ kinda silly
      Marc had pepper spray, Lily a Glock
      Cops came, grabbed ’em and gave them a shock”
      Tased?
      Sorry Mellencamp

  • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

    A nice long prison term for both of them is in order. I have a feeling that they will not do well in custody. Call it a professional judgement.

  • weejee

    With apologies to Sun Tzu, the wheels of justice turn slowly, but here’s hoping they grind fine.

    • C4TWOMAN

      Sun Tzu is doing tremendous work.

  • Ryan Denniston

    I for one remember all the carnage I wrought when Obama won and all the Texans had to just accept that as fact. Oh, wait…

    • chortlingdingo

      Ah, it can be such a challenge to be liberal in Texas. Sometimes I contemplate moving, but I really like it here (against all odds), and I’d rather work to flip Texas blue than abandon it. The city districts are pretty blue already, but we’re still outnumbered by the rural districts at the moment.

      • Eileen Besse

        We’re here in Floriduh. Ditto.

  • chimichanga

    It sound so fun on line via groupthink that they want to take it to real life which has consequences.

  • JMP

    Obviously the violence started by the Harkonnens after they set out to start fights with the protesters proves that liberals are all inherently violent and peaceful protests by liberals are really riots.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Heh. Harkonnens.

    • TJ Barke

      The spite must flow!

      • Bobathonic

        A couple of gigantic spite worms feature prominently in the article.

        • WeaselPoo

          These Harkonnens could always argue they were put up to it by that old billionaire, Benny Gesserit.

  • TJ Barke

    Why does the right hate freedom and justice?

    • MynameisBlarney

      They like it fine. they just don’t want people they don’t like to have it.

      • TJ Barke

        Which is also known as not actually freedom or justice.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Indeed.

    • C4TWOMAN

      It’s like free speech should only be free for them. Liberals should shut up.

    • Duke

      Gosh… They love it for themselves and people who are sufficiently like them.

      That’s why they always end up tearing themselves apart because their differences are too much once they get together as a group. Witness the ACHA failure and use of term “RINO.”

    • wait! what?

      Because they’re not official brony names.

  • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist
  • GoutMachine

    STILL waiting for Obama to take everyone’s guns away…

  • Ryan Denniston

    ““We have provided the police and the prosecution evidence showing that our clients acted lawfully in defense of others,” ”

    Ferchrissakes, why does the Party of Personal Responsibility resort to hiding behind human shields any chance it gets?

    • JMP

      Look, these people are white, so they can’t be held responsible for any violence they cause.

      • Bobathonic

        Mentally ill?

        • harryr

          Well, he at least appears to be partially non-white but hangs around with actual nazis, so draw your own conclusions about his sanity.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        I believe he at least is a pacific islander by descent, although he probably thinks his politics nullify that.

    • TJ Barke

      Standard right wing tactic. Same thing as when they pretend to care about jobs.

  • Mary Sandoras

    OT: This is why Hannitys’ head exploded yesterday.

    Murdochs seeking woman to run Fox News: report
    http://thehill.com/media/331069-murdochs-seeking-woman-to-run-fox-news-report

    • wait! what?

      A hen running the foxhouse.

    • Vincent Ricola

      I hear Hillary Clinton is a free agent.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    They seem… repulsive, actually.

    • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

      Now, now! Bernie and Bill Mahr say we must be nice to the nutty conservatives if we want to win in 2018.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Bernie and Bill can go shove their asinine opinions where the sun don’t shine.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    and saying that he (Trump) was their president

    Funny how they can’t stand the fact that we make a distinction between “the president” and “our president,” isn’t it? Donald Trump is the president–I’d have to be a a beautiful world of alternative facts to deny that–but he sure as fuck is not my president. I’m not taking ownership of a train wreck whom I actively campaigned against and I never will TYVM.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      especially since he’s made a fairly strong point of saying that he isn’t.

    • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

      One wonders how many of them sighed and said: “Oh well, he’s our president now” when Obama was elected…

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    Sorry – you don’t go around announcing your intentions to provoke a fight then claim “self-defense”, and even if you can claim self-defense once you use potentially lethal force in response to non-lethal actions your defense goes right down the crapper.

    • Thaumaturgist

      Sorry. George Zimmerman stalked Travon Martin to create Zimmerman’s “self-defense” hazard.

      • doktorzoom

        And sadly, Washington does indeed have a stand-your-ground law.

        • akita96th

          Stand and shoot….law.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    It’s impossible to tell from the photos if Dukes was concealed-carrying Skittles. That might be a mitigating factor here.

    • Stulexington

      Or Red Bull, they may have thought he was well protected because Red Bull gives you the protection that can only come from wings.

  • Serai 1

    They just can’t help proving what cowards they are.

  • C4TWOMAN

    that his preference would be for a process of “restorative justice” that would be better for healing, not just for Dukes, but for his assailants

    They can take their manipulative, self serving, “forgiveness” bullshit and shove it up their arses.

    At the very least they should be paying for hospital expenses, time off from work, and punitive(sp) damages. “Calamity Jane” there can sit in the pokey and get some counselling–if anyone deserves a lecture about adult responsibility and consequences it’s these people. This “layer talks as if this was a “mistake” and “they were “caught up in the moment”.
    It wasn’t a mistake. It was a choice. These clowns set people up, in a deliberate malicious scam, then SHOT THEM.

    Go directly to jail. Do NOT collect $200.

    • Ryan Denniston

      Do not vote in ’18.

    • doktorzoom

      Errr. Sorry if I didn’t make this clear: It’s the shooting victim and his lawyer who were calling for “restorative justice” in the first place. The defense lawyers are happy to “honor” that request by saying yeah, please follow the victim’s wishes, but they’re not the ones who are proposing it as an alternative.

      • C4TWOMAN

        Ah, my mistake. Obviously I would have written something differently… It is not uncommon for aggressors to use that argument.
        Um…what’s our protocol here? I’ll edit.

        • doktorzoom

          Edit as you see fit, then I’ll delete my clarification and you can delete your followup. Or you can just leave as is and then add “EDIT: Never mind, see Dok below, and it would be nice if everyone was as nice as Mr. Dukes. But the state still has a case” — or whatever you wanna say

          • C4TWOMAN

            I edited. Do what makes sense.

          • doktorzoom

            I’ll leave the whole thing, for educational purposes, plus I’m lazy that way

          • Mehmeisterjr

            Lucky thing that comments are not allowed on Wonkette.

          • Celtic_Gnome

            If comments were allowed, can you imagine the amount of work Dok would have to do?

      • The Flaming Carrot

        Naturally not. They want a full not guilty verdict on the grounds of self-defense.

  • Ryan Denniston

    Once again, the liberal Left Coast courts have stymied the advance of Trump’s America.

  • jesterpunk

    Now neither of them get to have guns, well until the NRA decides its ok and white people should be allowed guns all the time no matter what.

  • Michael R
  • Fartknocker

    Any word from the NRA? Nope, I didn’t think so.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      The NRA? America’s foremost and longest established terrorist organization? That NRA?

    • Bill D. Burger

      NRA: Killing our children since 1871.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Something something not all gun owners something something AMERICAN FREEDOM!!!

      • Stulexington

        something something bad apple spoils bunch something something bad seed something.

    • jesterpunk

      “We feel more guns would have resolved this issue.”

      Despite actual evidence showing more people with guns doesnt actually help.

      http://crooksandliars.com/2016/07/dallas-police-chief-david-brown

      Chief Brown said, “It’s increasingly challenging when people have
      AR-15’s slung over and shootings occur in a crowd and they begin running
      and we don’t know, or, we don’t know if they’re the shooter or not
      …has been the presumption that a good guy with a gun is the best way
      to resolve some of these things, well, we don’t know who the good guy is
      versus who the bad guy is if everybody starts shooting!”

      http://deadstate.org/combat-veterans-shoot-down-the-nra-good-guy-with-a-gun-is-based-on-a-fantasy-world/

      “We could have opened ourselves up to be potential targets ourselves,
      and not knowing where SWAT was, their response time, they wouldn’t know
      who we were, and if we had our guns ready to shoot, they could think
      that we were bad guys,” said Parker,

  • Villago Delenda Est

    LOCK THEM UP…and lose the key.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    What a terrible, terrible shame it is that these freedumb-loving Amerikkkans will be convicted felons for the rest of their lives, and unable to vote or own weapons. And by “shame” I mean “blessing.”
    Oh, and also too, can we stop using their words? I refuse to call these “people” “alt-right,” when they are thugs, felons, and white supremacists, if not out-and-out Nazis.

  • Duke

    Jackhole in Minneapolis just got 15 years for shooting at a BLM protest.

    • TundraGrifter

      If he’d done it on a Federal bird sanctuary he’d have walked.

  • Bill D. Burger

    A loving couple of super patriots and lovers of Lord Littledigits jist’ a’ standin’ their ground.
    You libs!

    http://robrogers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/tumblr_m306xq2p4F1qac8ago1_1280.jpg

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    At least the separate jail cells means they can’t have sexxy procreation time. These people should not be parents.

    Speaking of people that are crappy parents, here’s some news…
    https://twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/858000245392904192

    • Shibusa

      In the words of Leonard Cohen:
      Hallelujah.
      Hallelujah.
      Hallelujah.

    • ~ ☆ míkhαílα ☆ ~ 【忠実反抗】

      Yay!

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Well, I guess staying in character during the trial was not a good idea for Alex.

    • C4TWOMAN

      I suppose that’s our silver lining for the day….

    • Dudleydidwrong

      “At least the separate jail cells means they can’t have sexxy procreation time.” Perhaps not true. Just that he’ll be with the guys and she with the gals and they may find more sexxy time than they expected. Just not what they expected. I’m sure that some guy’ll think that he has a “purty mouth” or something.

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        Well, that’s why I specified the “procreation” part. What else happens, I don’t want to know.

      • A lady friend of mine just got out of lady jail, and she told me that while she was in, another inmate said to my her “I’ll give you my coffee creamer for a week if you let me eat your pussy”.

        So, at least they should have some decent opportunities!

  • geoffalnutt

    “Nice alt-right couple…” No such thing.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Dukes, the big ol’ IWW peacenik, has said through his attorney, Sarah Lippek, that his preference would be for a process of “restorative justice” that would be better for healing, not just for Dukes, but for his assailants

    He’s a better person than I am, that’s for sure. Hoping for a strong recovery for him!

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      He’s also delusional if he thinks these insanely twisted, sincerely evil “people” would benefit from this process. They’d laugh about it with their equally-twisted friends the minute they got out of the site where any reconciliation was held.

      • Bobathonic

        That’s why it’s generally the state that makes the decision to prosecute or not. Victims don’t get veto rights on that.

  • Carpe Vagenda
  • goonemeritus

    I don’t think this is what the drafters of the second amendment had in mind.

    • TundraGrifter

      I don’t think this cute couple would last long in a well-organized militia.

      • aureolaborealis

        Neither would most other gun-humpers.

        • goonemeritus

          I have always felt that the people I least trust with firearms are the ones who most ardently covet them.

          • aureolaborealis

            It’s a rule that applies pretty well to all manifestations of power.

    • aureolaborealis

      IKR! What does any of this have to do with Southern white posses ‘defending’ themselves against the freedom of runaway slaves?

    • ~ ☆ míkhαílα ☆ ~ 【忠実反抗】
      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        Those salmon will never know what hit ’em, right?

    • Yeah, they’d be pretty pissed at the modern interpretation…

      https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rIZgiuWAsqQ/maxresdefault.jpg

  • therblig

    i assume they pay a small fine and get their gun back, right?

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    Here’s a tip, reichwing nutters: When you’re planning to do something illegal, like deliberately provoke violence at a peaceful protest so that you (think you) can shoot innocent people, or pepper-spray them, don’t brag about doing it ahead of time on Facebook or via text message!
    And because I’m feeling generous, here’s another; only the police can shoot and pepper-spray innocent people consequence-free, so if you’re salivating at the thought of gunning someone down, why not see if you can pass the psych exam for your local law enforcement agency? I hear ICE is hiring.

    • C4TWOMAN

      I think I’d prefer them go enlist..so they can go protect these great United States of America and walk their talk. Lots of brown people to shoot.
      Mind, overseas, they tend to shoot back….

      • Nockular cavity

        Also, the US military tends to enforce discipline. (OK, “some.”) Most American police forces have thrown that concept out the window.

      • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

        Yeah but the military is probably the most integrated institution in the US. Plus don’t ask don’t tell or whatever. They’d have to serve with both icky and sticky.

        • C4TWOMAN

          Maybe they don’t know? This has loads of entertainment potential…

          • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

            Hah! Comedy gold! It sounds perfect for a CBS sit-com.

    • Stulexington

      Also too don’t worry about the max iq limit, it won’t be a problem for you guys.

    • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

      HEY HEY HEY. If our President does it that means it’s legal.

  • ~ ☆ míkhαílα ☆ ~ 【忠実反抗】

    Why are people so shitty to eachother?

    • Vincent Ricola

      Economic anxiety?

      • Villago Delenda Est

        10 out of 10 Village pundits agree!

    • jesuswasablack

      Willful Ignorance?

      • ~ ☆ míkhαílα ☆ ~ 【忠実反抗】

        Lord Dampnut giving, at least in their minds, a green light to do this horrible shit?

  • jesuswasablack
    • The Other Tim

      I don’t think HOKOANA passes.

      • Red Bird Ω

        I think he does.

        • The Other Tim

          “Sounds like a pacific islander to me” – Jefferson Sessions

  • WotsAllThisThen

    SPLC describes how this was reported in Breitbart. 100% alternative facts.

    • HogeyeGrex

      “Second Amendment heroes battle off rabid mob of hippies, get arrested for defending themselves. Contribute now to their gofundme!”?

  • Resistance Ftr PuckStopsHere

    Is Washington one of those states where if you are convicted of a felony you can’t vote anymore? Because that would be nice with respect to these two.

  • Two small impotent bullies looking for a way to feel important and powerful.

    Good thing we’ve got the second amendment so they can run out and buy a gun!

  • Anna Rompage

    “First degree assault with a firearms enhancement for Elizabeth”

    Are you fucking kidding me? Someone goes to a protest armed, and with the intention of inciting violence, then shoots someone, and all they get is an assault charge?

    • therblig

      you want to ruin her life for a youthful indiscretion?

      • Stulexington

        Hells to the yeah!

      • Anna Rompage

        As a matter of fact, yes I would…

      • Bec Jenn

        YES!

      • Red Bird Ω

        They were willing to kill someone for no reason. So, yes.

      • Ah yes, youthful indiscretion… trying drugs, public indecency, speeding on city streets, shooting other humans because you don’t like their beliefs…

      • Ill-Advised

        That could have cost someone else’s. Including someone not involved.

      • Susan

        She damn near killed a man who had done nothing to her, she should feel the grief for her actions. She should also never be able to be in possession of a firearm again, which a conviction on these charges will take care of nicely.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      IKR? Where’s “attempted murder”?

      • C4TWOMAN

        It would be some sort of conspiracy charge. But yeh.

    • jesterpunk

      She was white, so she is just a misunderstood and “economically anxious”.

      • Red Bird Ω

        ITWAN

        • jesterpunk

          What does ITWAN stand for?

          • Red Bird Ω

            If That Was A N(redacted). In other words, if they weren’t white the results would have been different.

          • jesterpunk

            Thanks.

      • Susan

        No she is a stupid bitch who thought she was a tough gal.

    • JustDon’tSayFlatEarth

      Scroll up a little. Uncle Matt sez Assault I is easier to prove in court than attempted murder.

    • Ill-Advised

      First degree assault is a felony charge. The firearm enhancement ensures that other charges may also be added. It’s not a small thing. If Washington has mandatory minimum sentencing, she could be in jail for years, if convicted.
      IANAL.

      • folderol

        That is if the all-white jury agrees.

        • folderol

          And to the white folks she was just a twitchy finger
          Was an accident she pulled the trigger
          And though she came armed with a gun
          Her attorney said she needed one, for defensive need
          And the all-white jury agreed

          Apologies to Dylan, as always.

        • Ill-Advised

          I grant the cynicism over thoughtless racism. I can comment from experience that if racism is present, it gets exposed; if not in voir dire, then in deliberations. How other juries have handled it isn’t in my purview.

  • Nounverb911

    They seem nice.

  • exinkwretch

    Racism, ignorance and firearms — what a winning trio.

    • msanthropesmr

      Don’t forget drunk!!

      • MizzMazz

        I never forget drunk. The racism, ignorance and firearms I do without.

        • Shanzgood

          I have forgotten a LOT drunk.

          • MizzMazz

            Write shit down. If you can read it the next day, you weren’t so drunk ;)

          • chicken thief

            I just googled “shit” because I was going to post a pic of the word ‘shit’ written on a scrap of paper in response to your “write shit down” advice.

            Do not google image the word ‘shit’….

      • Susan

        Even in open carry States being drunk in public with a firearm will get you a jail sentence at the very least.

  • Ezio
    • IOnlyLikeCats

      And also claim they’re having freedoms taken away when they can’t follow rules but are still catered to.

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    • MizzMazz

      Yeah, what is up with these people? I have seen videos of them in restaurants with fucking machine guns slung over their shoulders, braying how this is their right. If I saw that in a restaurant, I would so be out of there out of fear for my life. My son is grown up now, but I imagine what that would be like with a little kid, trying to have a meal, and a bunch of armed assholes walk in. Terror is my first response, and the restaurant can bill me for the check.

      • Shanzgood

        Um, I would say the restaurant can eat the bill if they’re the kind of place that allows their patrons to be freaked out by gun-toting nutbars roaming around.

        Except they’d probably stiff the waitstaff for it, too.

        • MizzMazz

          Many places have said “No guns in here” and they get really pissy. Some businesses actually care about their customers (imagine that). And yes, having worked both FOH and BOH, assholes like that never tip or outright dine and dash.
          BTW, is it possible for you not to take a good picture? I envy you that, so I will stick with Tony Harrison.

          • Shanzgood

            Ha! My daughter had to teach me to take selfies. They always turned out like this before.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6860428f7e06ff8e82c6c2108c061f62565d88df83c11efec1e0ac0a37ac5c6a.jpg

          • Sakonyachen

            Are we related?

          • Shanzgood

            I dunno. Did I have one of your babies?

          • Sakonyachen

            No. But the old selfie pic looks like me.

          • Shanzgood

            Hee! Which one?!

          • Sakonyachen

            The black and white one in your comment.

          • MizzMazz

            Pretty close to pix of me, but it needs moar chins and the eyes have to be googly. Kind of like the Me Gusta guy.

      • Grokenstein

        If I saw that in a restaurant, I would so be out of there out of fear for my life.

        That’s their entire point. They’re not actually fearful for their own lives, despite what they say; they just want the government-supported power to instill that fear in others. They think it will compensate for their various physical and mental inadequacies.

        • MizzMazz

          I watched this one video where about four or five of them were walking around a strip mall parking lot, then onto the street, and people were challenging them with:
          “There’s children here! What you’re doing is dangerous and frightening!”
          “No sir, we’re exercising our second amendment rights!”
          All smug and ‘I-dare-you’ bullshit, until some asshole drops his gun or lets a stray round out.
          I agree with you. They have no power of their own so they need the almighty gun.

      • Jo Mathie

        I get that it’s the Second Amendment and all that, but who in the hell needs to carry a machine gun around? I’m British and if someone did that everyone would be hiding under the tables within 5 seconds. We have really strict gun laws here. You see a gun that is not being used for shooting animals and birds (that’s controlled too) and it would be full on panic station. Guess what. We have very little gun crime. Yeah you can attack someone with a knife, but it’s not going to be anywhere near the damage done with a gun does.

        • Rivvi Kordia

          Westminster car attack six dead 49 injured 4 critical 1 life threatening. And most of the cops don’t have guns. Your system is f’d up. Look at the car attacks that are going on and innocent people cannot be armed to protect themselves.

          • Jo Mathie

            Our police do have guns when they are needed but they are specially trained and rarely needed. How often do you hear about mass shootings in the UK compared to the US? One lunatic is one thing – even if everyone on that bridge had a gun he was in a fast moving car. Taking him down would have ended up with far more collateral damage than how it went down. “Look at the car attacks” so what? you want everyone to be issued with bigger cars because the only way to take out a bad guy with a car is by having a good guy with another car?

  • SayItWithWookies

    Assault with a “firearms enhancement?” Is that what the kids are calling attempted murder these days?

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      The sentence would likely be the same, since Assault I and Attempted Murder are both Class A felonies (in Washington an Attempt is usually — murder, arson, rape are exceptions — a step lower in classification than the actual crime; in practice, even those exceptions are sentenced as though they are a lower class, absent aggravating factors.) Assault I is much easier to prove, since Washington statute explicitly requires that an attempt requires specific intent to commit the actual offense and Murder requires a showing of premeditation that must be more than “a moment.”

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    Judging from the fact that he wanted mediation instead of jail time, I’m assuming the victim also will not sue them, which is a shame. I’d like to have seen them hit with a couple million dollar judgment, and unable to GoFundMe their way out of it.

    • puredog

      He may still. The victim apparently wants “restorative justice,” and while “punitive justice” (jail, prison, fines) will not “restore” him in any way, a nice civil judgment for compensation would. Though the victim may not be interested in doing that either.

  • Lefty Frizzell

    Washington is effectively a SYG state, by case law if not statute.

    This is something of a classic SYG test case: can you provoke a fight and then shoot your intended victim when overmatched, arguing that at that moment you were in fear of your life, taken in isolation from the preceding moments?

    That would seem ludicrous, but it is America.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      In Florida, it would be a slam dunk ironclad defense, if you’re white, of course.

  • Ezio

    Take care when you call people “snowflakes”, wingnuts, because when enough of them get together, it forms a blizzard.

  • OrdinaryJoe

    Such a cute couple…..

    of deranged pyschos.

  • Dolmance

    It’s just like my kid’s 7th and 9th birthday parties.

  • Beanz&Berryz

    And also too shooting into a crowd. MAGA.

  • Jgb979

    How about trying some mixing in some alt-sugar in your diets aholes

    • BearDeLaOursistance

      …Cyanide? Or just powdered votes?

  • canes_pugnaces

    She’ll enjoy prison, I think. There are lots of skin heads and neo-Nazis to play with. No guns, sadly. And very few snowflakes.

  • marxalot

    They seem nice.

  • Beanz&Berryz

    And. HuffPo had a recent long-read article on what bullets do to people’s bodies, which sounds like it could have been written for this shooting:

    http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/gun-violence/

    Also, I must point out, it was the old HuffPo links to others that lead me here to my favorite Wonkettorium. Whenever ago.

    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

      For me, it was Colin Pinkham who I followed over here from Jezebel and never went back!

  • Red Bird Ω

    Such violent people. It must be their culture.

    • I blame the absent fathers

      • Shanzgood

        Yeah, all the fathers who are absent because they are dead or in jail due to EWB (Existing While Blah).

        • I must be goin blind. These two looked pale to me

          • Shanzgood

            Sorry, I skipped ahead on the logic board. That’s the go-to whypipo comment whenever minority communities protest against police violence and economic inequality.

      • Jack Rogue Tenhet

        I blame their absent mothers too. Nobody there to strangle them as a child.

        And they wonder why some species eat their own young.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        No, no, we must blame the educational system. If their parents had been eligible for private school vouchers, they would be responsible citizens today. :-(

      • cheetojeebus

        I blame Trojan.

      • Pisto75666

        It’s that damned grunge music’s fault.

    • chicken thief

      Where are all the white leaders and pastors decrying this outrage?

      • Red Bird Ω

        I think they’re at the “All Lives Matter” rally.

  • I love that defense.
    The hippie I shot doesn’t want this to go to trial!

    • Beanz&Berryz

      … dirty hippie snowflake I shot..,

  • Jack Rogue Tenhet

    So that’s what a husky Micky and Mallory would look like.

    Nice.

    “Get em outta here! Getem! Getum out! Out! Out!” *sigh*

    • Al Swearengen

      That reminds me, I gotta look up the new “The President” show with Anthony Atamanuik. He does a great Trump “Get em outta here!”

      • MCLepus

        It’s hilarious, and Atamanuik is genius.

  • I am having a confused moment so I came back here.
    We’re all snowflakes, and weak and melty and not real men or women, but, we’re also the real violent ones that the right will prove is violent by bringing arms to an unarmed rally and provoking a fight?

    • ~ ☆ míkhαílα ☆ ~ 【忠実反抗】

      Yes, we’re both at the exact same time, according to the alt-Reich.

      • Edith Prickly

        They don’t do logic so good.

        • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

          They don’t do anything so good.

    • Al Swearengen

      It’s called “Having the most delicious chocolate cake and eating it too.”

    • snark-lurker

      of course you came back here—where everybuddy’s haz confuzes

    • chicken thief

      It’s all part of the Obama dichotomy – feckless and weak/tranny dictator; lazy and stupid/staged his Hawaiian birth before he could walk or talk and personally coming to take ever’ bodies gunz.

      • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

        And, of course the Hillary dichotomy–weak, ill grandma who is a murdering demon; feebleminded old lady who is a corrupt,Machiavellian mastermind

        • Sakonyachen

          BENGHAAAZZZIII!!!!!1111!!!!

    • Joel Dent

      It’s because they’re listening to 2 different sources. Self defense blogs have been pushing the “violent antifa are coming” meme now that they can’t claim gubmint thugs are coming for their guns. Meanwhile the traditional conservative media carries on with the “liberal wimp” narrative.

  • AndyC316

    How did they get out of the basket of deplorables?! I put a lock on that fucker!!

  • Rick Hill

    What did they think? That they were in Fl where you can go out and pick a fight so you can then shoot someone? Idiots

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Once the NRA gets a national Stand Your Ground law passed and signed by President Idiot you’ll be able to brandish a gun at a crowd of protesters, in a state like Washington or Oregon, or even shoot them if you feel “threatened”, with impunity.
      Want to know how protesters could be shot in the street like in The Handmaids Tale? Thats how it could happen. No police or National Guard need get their hands dirty.

      • Old town Urbandale

        We’ve got stand your ground now in Iowa, and from the description of the “rally,” both sides could have fired away with impunity. Maybe I should be packin’ for the climate march tomorrow…

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Gee counselor, even if “the alleged victim doesn’t wanna,” Prosecutors deem everything from Murder I to Jaywalking an offense against The Peace and Dignity of the State of Washington. Lucky they didn’t add 58 Harassment charges for brandishing a firearm in a crowd.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      They really should add those charges

    • Nasty Girl Brianna

      I think they should slap them with Federal terrorism charges. Because showing up at a political protest in order to cause violence and hurt people? Kind of the classic definition of terrorism.

  • kindness

    Shit, as long as they are both convicted on felony charges. At least they their precious guns will get taken away. I won’t weep for them because I believe in the Well Regulated part of the 2nd Amendment.

    • chicken thief

      I’m not sure where the felony comes in. I mean, it’s not like they had their own email server or anything….

      • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

        They weren’t even shrill.

        • HooverVilles

          Sigh!

      • The Flaming Carrot

        And, although it’s hard to tell from the video, it doesn’t look like they were wearing pantsuits.

  • Royal Ugly Dude

    These people are the real-life McPoyles.

  • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

    That’s right, our “side” won the White House, Congress, Senate and now control the SC and the majority of state governorships and we are SOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANGRY ABOUT IT!!!!

  • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

    So who’s paying for the fancy lawyer who doesn’t sound like a public defender? Or did the alt right and NRA leave them to fend for themselves?

    • puredog

      Well, the Hokoanas apparently live in the Ravenna neighborhood of Seattle, and while its boundaries are fluid, the nicer parts of Ravenna are very nice indeed. So they may have the bucks for a private attorney.

      • Bitter Scribe

        If they do, I hope the victim sues for every last buck.

        • The Flaming Carrot

          He won’t. He apparently has ideals or something.

      • The Flaming Carrot

        I looked for, and did not find, any evidence that these two were gainfully employed, or indeed that they did anything other than attend gun rights conferences. Trust fund, maybe?

        • mfp

          all those gun rights folks…..they all have a certain something about them…cant quite put my finger on it…ohwell, i’m sure it will occur to me sooner or later

  • azeyote

    hopefully Washington won’t be like Florida and pull a Zimmerman for these idiots, and they spend at least some jail time before Trump pardons them –

    • Ontogenesis

      This is going to be tried in Seattle, one of the most liberal areas of the country. If the prosecutor presents a good, solid case, I expect to see a stiff sentence.

      • Nasty Girl Brianna

        I think all the prosecutor needs to do is show the jury this moron’s facebook feed. Because Right Wing morons ALWAYS telegraph their nefarious plans on social media.

        • Ontogenesis

          Yes — there’s definite precedent for considering social media. They didn’t show up and suddenly react out of fear; they were ready to start trouble.

    • VirginiaLady

      I had almost forgotten that Mr. Fucknugget has the ability to pardon people convicted with federal crimes. Lucky for you I still have some banana cream pie left.

  • Jerry Noneofyourbizz
    • The Flaming Carrot

      That’s outstanding. I hope his ex gets the help she needs. From what I understanding, the eldest son’s affections have been well and truly alienated.

    • Alan

      I’m still confused about custody decisions in Texas being made by a jury.

    • MCLepus

      Does this mean he doesn’t have kids?

  • chicken thief

    I think his attorney should have gone for the diminished capacity defense. I mean, a Trump supporter named ‘Hokoana’? There’s yer prima facea evidence right fucking there!

  • Carpe Vagenda
    • Nasty Girl Brianna

      LOL so the Right Wing really is paying people to show up at protests, huh?

      • Carpe Vagenda

        You know, it appears that they are.

        I can’t wait for the Mercers to be hit up for discovery.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      Ooh, $5000, that’s like 1000% of his income from non alimony sources.

  • JohnBull

    Ever notice that despite all the talk of individualism and liberty, nothing pisses off a conservative more than knowing someone DARES be different? College towns–the tiny centers of relative sophistication in otherwise dreary flyover country–bug the hell out these fuckers to no end.

  • Nyumbu

    I’m surprised there were finally charges. The police spoke to him briefly on the night of the incident and released him without arrest. Gentleman that he is, he claimed to have been the shooter and that it was self-defense. I don’t think they even talked to his wife.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    “WALK IT OFF, SNOWFLAKE!”

  • anon_the_great

    Trump’s right. It IS foreigners who are fomenting violence against white Americans.

  • Cal Kurtz

    What about a antifa cunt? Did the hack writer forget about her aspirations to come back with 100 nazi scalps? Or maybe it’s ok for the left to intimidate and hurt others they disagree with? I guarantee if more rights came armed and ready it would have been quashed quickly. Or maybe mention the scumbag mayors connection to a antifa, which led to the police being told to stand down until things really really got out of hand what about that? In typical leftist style the true facts are conveniently left out. Totally fake news totally biased journalism total crap I have no idea how this hack even got a job writing for this website. Oh wait I guess since someone like maddow has a show anyone can get a gig in journalism as long as they’re willing to lie and spin the truth to the left for a mere pittance

    • Professor Fate

      As typical with this sort of screed – it reads pretty much the same backwards as it does forwards. Enjoy you brief time here

    • Jonny On Maui

      Hi Cal I’m Jonny, how ya doin’ today? I’m fine, thanks for asking. I just want to point out that you’ve walked into a nasty vile mob of snark. I’m pretty sure you want the unhinged RWNJ meeting down the hall. Yes, it’d be nice if they put signs on the doors but we can’t even get them to sweep the floors. Here, I’ll walk with you. Yes, the hallway art is nice. Good luck with your batshit insanity!

      • Careful, he sounds militaristic, red-pillish and is probably packing heat.

      • Erala Contratista

        I’ve noticed an odd link with under exposed photos and what reads like rather turgid prose lately.

      • Nasty Girl Brianna

        Wait, I thought he came for the abuse, not the argument?

        • roberteye

          He went full melee

        • The Wanderer

          Pity he wasn’t looking for Getting Hit on the Head lessons.

        • Susan

          buse is a good way for a guy who is the proud owner of 2 inches of dangling disappointment to get his ”jollies”

    • Ricky Gay

      Where do you stand on canned baby clams?

      • SnarkON

        Oh, LOW BLOW, Ricky.

      • The Wanderer

        (mutters) Monster.

      • Sakonyachen

        How do you live with yourself?

    • “Totally fake news.”

      FFS. You sound like a valley girl on her period.

    • chicken thief

      You’re on to something there, Cal. There was that one time some woman said she would like to have 100 Nazi scalps, which is just like some gal shooting a person.

      Before you suggest again that talk and action are the same, which would you prefer: that I tell you that I’ll give you $1,000 or that I hand you $1,000?

      • Keith Taylor

        Hand me a thousand dollars instead! I completely understand the difference between talk and action and I’d be very appreciative! And maybe I’m a supercilious snob, but I really believe I’d thank you more articulately and classily that Cal Kurtz would.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Holy shit you’re a fucking idiot. Just stop before you embarrass yourself further.

    • BreakingDeadMen

      Did this article trigger you? I suggest you find a safe space. Maybe The Daily Stormer is more your bag?

    • crunchyknee

      My, what a triggered dipshit. Lay down the Cheetos and bile. Maybe, take a walk and appreciate the spring in typical leftist style or rightist style, it’s a free country.

      • SnarkON

        I feel like appreciating spring in typical rightist style involves open carry.

    • VomitFreeSince’93

      Tee-hee! Ya know, the more you people come on these sites typing at the top of your lungs, the more we know we’re getting under your skin and ruining all your monster-truck jamboree festivities. So by all means, keep it up!

      • Cal Kurtz

        Hmmm facts optional for ya? The projection is strong with you. Lmao

    • Iam Reading

      I’m antifa. I employ the triple S method of dealing with snowflakes like you. I’ll dig another hole in the desert in hopes I can relocate you to your new home very soon.

      • Cal Kurtz

        Let’s meet up, then we will see. ;)

    • Nasty Girl Brianna
    • Pickles

      whatever, cuck

      • Cal Kurtz

        Ahhh, I see the you have tried to start using” cuck”. I suggest you look up the definition, but it might disappoint you. :(

        • MCLepus

          when did your wife give you horns?

    • SnarkON

      Dear, you need meds and a grammar lesson.

      • Cal Kurtz

        Dear? Nice try at the whole condescending approach, but once again, try facts professor. ;)

        • SnarkON

          Rest assured, whether you accept my contempt or not, I am still contemptuous.

    • Hairstrike Alpha

      I think you took a wrong turn- the neo-Nazi threads are over at Breitbart, 4Chan and Stormfront. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out you dozey cunt

      • Cal Kurtz

        Hmmm, against free speech when the facts don’t favor you…haha, predictable puppets parroting slogans. Try again stinky. :)

        • Hairstrike Alpha

          It’s free speach! What kind of teabag fest did you come from herr Stormtrumper?

        • Persistent Tennessee Rain

          “Free speech” doesn’t mean “free from criticism” and it has nothing to do with posts on a privately owned message board. Take a goddamned civics class, you stupid fuckbunglar.

          • Susan

            I’m going to remember that ”fuckbungler” comment, I just may steal it one of these days.

        • MCLepus

          mm freeze peach. so like those who can’t talk without talking points.

        • Mike Wallace

          Lolz. We can add free speech to the list of concepts you don’t understand.

    • The Wanderer

      Aw, aren’t you cute. Are you lost? Did you lose your mommy?

      • Cal Kurtz

        Again, you have no logical comeback, so you project your emotional immaturity. Run along and play your x box little one. Lol

        • The Wanderer

          My child, we keep people like you around to feed the Pantomime Horse. You’re nothing to me, and an embarrassment to your parents.

          • dshwa

            Possibly not the second part. Mommy and Daddy may be proud to have raised a spitting image of their racist selves.

          • The Flaming Carrot

            I always knew those Keebler elves were up to no good.

          • Ungern Burkhan

            Reynardine, is that you?

        • Mike Wallace

          Your cognitive dissonance is astounding. It’s like you’re fucking five years old and the only thing you can muster is “I know you are but what am I?”

    • r m reddicks

      I take it you haven’t read Joseph Conrad?

      • snigsy

        He dead.

    • dshwa

      Ok, who didn’t wipe their feet when they came back from Stormfront?

      • Cal Kurtz

        Lol, I see the whole “I have no factual leg to stand on, therefore YOU’RE RACIST” retort is still taught to vacuous brained libiots. ;) you’re welcome. Try harder next time, I’m offended by your lazy debating approach . Lol

        • dshwa

          The projection is strong with this one.

          If and when you say something worth debating I’ll debate you. But I’m not really interested in your unconscious behavior to engage in self ego boosting activities here. I’m sure you’ll post about how you “gotta us all” or something along those lines soon enough to prove that’s what you’re here for.

        • Persistent Tennessee Rain

          No one here is debating you. We are giving your posts more time and attention than they deserve. Now, shoo! Before we have more fun at your expense.

      • Ungern Burkhan

        Stormfront? please keep up. The place to be is at the Daily Stormer.

        • dshwa

          I am proud beyond measure of my ignorance of the latest trend in Nazi racist web sites.

    • merl1

      Yes, it is OK to punch Nazis. I’m enjoying your hissy fits, please throw another one.

    • Keith Taylor

      Okay. I’d like you to understand that I don’t believe I should encourage you and I’m only responding out of curiosity … sick curiosity, I guess. But what are the true facts in your view?

    • Mike Wallace

      Your uncle and father are the same man, aren’t they? That would certainly explain your inability to comprehend very basic concepts.

    • Rivvi Kordia

      They are all upset because Based Stick Man took the streets back. It seems funny to me the cops constantly had the right to there backs and always kept the “antifa”/BAMN nerds in front of them where they could keep an eye on them. One of the “antifa” trash hit a guy in the head with a steel bike lock. They were using bear spray. But the Proud Boys led by Based Stick and Based Spartan beat them down and sent them running. Antifa “won” the first round because the right had no one there to stop their terrorist attack on the university but rounds two and three were won by Stick and the Proud Boys. Evidenced by the fact that they didn’t bother to show up for round four. There are posts on reddit where “antifa” members quit the group accusing other members of being cowards running over them trying to escape the beating they took. I guess the alt-left is no match when they face up with real men. Antifa and BAMN are lowlife scum that got what was coming. Any time they dare to show their hidden faces again we will be there to rip off their masks and beat them back into hiding.

      • (((Aron)))

        You didn’t beat them this time. You didn’t beat them last time. You won’t best them next time.

        You will never best them.

        Nazis always lose.

        • Ungern Burkhan

          P. Levy, I bet you are a number one fan of Emily “100 Nazi Scalps” Hairy Vag’s fetish porn, aren’t you?

        • Rivvi Kordia

          That’s not what I saw. And just to clarify antifa are the nazi’s in this scenario. Clearly.

          • (((Aron)))

            Nope. The Nazis are the ones Sieg Heiling and giving Roman salutes.

            That would be your side.

            Keep whining, loser.

          • Rivvi Kordia

            No one is whining but it is obvious that clean comments that don’t jibe with the uber-lib narrative here gets deleted. I wondered why their was only one view on here. You people keep screeching about nazi this and stormfront that and it’s funny you have no argument other than accusing people that believe in free speech of being nazi’s. Maybe you should look a little harder. Fascist nazis were hard left anit business and heavy on social spending. And BAMN is aligned with antifa by any means necessary. They are hard left communists. I’m not whining I’m winning we have both houses the presidency and 33 governorships. That does not sound like losing to me. Maybe you could explain how that is losing before the true fascists silence free speech by deleting an opposing view. You people would be funny if it was not so sad.

          • (((Aron)))

            All of your comments are still here. None have been deleted. What a whiny little prig you are!

            Are you going to tell me that people who wave around swastikas aren’t Nazis? You’re even dumber than you look!

            And you aren’t winning. Please point to a single major piece of legislation that has been passed since January 20.

          • Rivvi Kordia

            Adding a prop into the argument to make an argument ids not only weak it’s dishonest. I made no comment about swastikas. The last time I heard anything about a swastika it was drawn in poop at some liberal arts college and it turned out to be a gay male liberal. So yeah you fail.

          • (((Aron)))

            Sorry, do I know you?

          • (((Aron)))

            In any event, I have more important things to do on a beautiful Sunday afternoon than banter about with a whiny basement Nazi on a dead thread.

            Buh bye!

          • (((Aron)))

            Also, I love that it too you eight days to craft that response.

          • Rivvi Kordia

            That is hilarious. That is when I happened to go through my post responses. Only a weak mind hovers over these meaningless posts. I get bored and pull up my posts and respond they usually take me a few minutes to work through them all.

          • (((Aron)))

            One month.

            It took you one month to respond to me.

            Go away.

          • (((Aron)))

            But since I’m tired of listening to your yapping months after the fact, I am blocking you.

            Good bye!

      • The Flaming Carrot

        Most normal, English-speaking people aren’t going to understand your slang. But from what I saw of the “Based Stick Man” incident, it was just an average field hockey match.

        • Rivvi Kordia

          What was slang in what I wrote? Oh I get it you’re one of those internet grammar nazi’s that has no intelligent retort so you resort to writing two sentences with proper punctuation. In your weak mind you count that as a win. Pathetic man, just sad. Everything I said is based on fact and you didn’t like the fact that the anti-anti-fascists took a beating.

          • Carole

            Oh, I dunno. “Based Stick.” “Proud Boys.” “Based Spartan.” Are those hockey teams? What the fuck?

            By the way, your “Based Lawyer” knows fuck all about practicing law.

          • Rivvi Kordia

            Those are the nom de plume of the people that were engaged in the battle of berkeley. I assumed anyone commenting on the incident had at least made some effort to research the topic. You are an angry little girl aren’t you? I will refrain from making a hurtful remark about what medication you should be on. I think I would advise you not to comment on topics you have no base knowledge of.

          • Carole

            P.S. nobody gives a holy flying fuck that one dick with a stick hit another dick with a stick. Among real lawyers, that’s called Dick Self Defense. Now take your Zyprexa and try to stop hallucinating.

          • Rivvi Kordia

            Well that would be your ill informed opinion now wouldn’t it? Not so much speaking from the legal position but I assume it is considered self defence. I cannot recall a legal charging document specifically using the word dick but hey if that’s what they call it your jurisdiction. Why would you know what zyprexa? It’s as if you have personal knowledge? I tend to be a scosche adhd but manage without meds. Don’t get me wrong I encourage people to stay on their meds but I find it disturbing you frame it in an insulting way. People that actually need it could take that as indicating they were somehow less than “normal” people. You should seriously rethink that hostile remark regarding people with mental illness.

    • Louis Pierre Villaire

      antifa cunt got punched in the face, she didn’t shoot someone in the gut.

    • Louis Pierre Villaire

      Antifa hasn’t shot anyone, but trump supporters have… try again asshole.

  • Bitter Scribe

    I wonder what it’s going to be like for this guy, being a Trump supporter in prison. Unarmed.

  • Ωbjectifier

    “Nah, I’m going full melee.”

    Fuckin gamer thinks he can do it for realz?

    • Iam Reading

      King County jail will test that.

      • merl1

        oh yeah. they’re going to have to keep this tough guy in an isolation cell for his own protection.

        • Grokenstein

          “Guard! Guard!! They’re still lookin’ at me!!”
          “Whattaya want me t’ do about it?”
          “…Hold me back in case I go into a berserker rage?”

  • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

    I’m trying to picture how nice their wedding must have been.

    • NCSteve

      Like an ISIS wedding, except with a lot of low-quality white lightning.

      • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

        “Do you take this woman–”
        “GETTEM OUTTA HERE! OUT! OUT!”

      • VomitFreeSince’93

        and taffeta…definitely taffeta.

    • Nasty Girl Brianna

      Something like this, I imagine.

      http://i.imgur.com/8ZdlaCc.jpg

      • Grokenstein

        I…um………What?!?

        • MCLepus

          It’s called “penis extender” for those who can afford their ED drugs

    • Mehmeisterjr

      I couldn’t decide whether to send them a toaster or an Uzi, so I just let it slide.

  • Jennifer R

    Throw them under the jail, I don’t care any more.

  • Iam Reading

    The perp isn’t white, so shouldn’t he be deported according to trump logic?

    • SnarkON

      “Go back to Yokohama, Hokoana!”

  • akryan

    yeah, the hippie justice thing just isn’t going to work with these guys. they are beyond self-reproach. in their minds they are clearly the victims and did nothing wrong. the only thing the criminal justice love-in would do is make the Alt-Right assholes feel even more vindicated. Throw them in the slammer and let them rot. If they were black, they’d already be there.

    • Sakonyachen

      If they were black, they would probably have been shot at the scene.

  • SnarkON

    OMG the glock-carrying alt-right rage monster is wearing her hair in PIGTAILS.

    • Erala Contratista

      Old School to the bone.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      I always knew Pippi Longstocking was up to no good.

      • TS Idiot

        More like Pippi LongGlocking, amirite?

  • ken_kukec

    “Marc had a can of pepper spray, and Elizabeth had a Glock, and they were ready to rumble.”

    Loudon Wainwright III wrote a tune for this fun-loving couple:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN7ppiqfk9o

    • Gregory Brown

      Saw him in the chapel at Hamilton College back in his “dead skunk in the middle of the road” glory days. He did not impress me, or anyone else in the crowd.

  • Treehopper1104

    In related news, a right wing extremist was targeting democrats at my former undergrad institution this morning. Fortunately, he did not have a gun and there were no deaths. http://time.com/4759992/transylvania-university-machete-attack/

  • Mehmeisterjr

    The blocked-out name in those Facebook rants: Was it John Barron by any chance?

  • ginos_way

    Can they be sentenced to some painful but otherwise treatable disease for which they’ll have no coverage under trumpcare? That would be restorative. To me.

    • Louis Pierre Villaire

      im sure they already have herpes, and blame it on obama and black people fucking monkeys….

  • The Flaming Carrot

    They seem nice.

  • JD Mulvey

    That prosecutor sounds competent! Usually white gubment-hatin’ gun nuts get assigned to the other kind.

  • Cal Kurtz

    Thank you to all my fans, you are so pathetically predictable. Dancing to my tune like puppets. I love you all!!! But c’mon stop pm’ing me telling me that you agree, but are to cowardly to publicly admit it. Also, kudos on attempting to use the words like cuck, and snowflake, but yall might need a little more practice. Get on it people. Lmao

    • Maclare

      Who are you again?

      • Carole

        I think maybe he’s the dude that sailed up the river, took off his clothes, and put Martin Sheen in jail. On second thought, no, that was Alex Jones.

      • Parakeetist

        Another angry little kid. Read his Disqus history, he can’t spell.

        • Grokenstein

          Repetitive, too. Always a good sign!

        • Maclare

          Ahh, okay. Nobody then.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Do you have any idea how fucking pathetic it is to brag about getting people to respond to you on a message board?

      No, you probably don’t, so I’ll spell it out for you. It’s what people do on message boards, shitforbrains. You’re about as sad as the street corner flasher who congratulates himself for getting passersby to point and laugh at his tiny little dick. Just how fucking sad do you have to be to think that’s an accomplishment?

    • Gregory Brown

      You have all the earmarks of a Dunning Kruger Murcan. Too fucking stupid to know how fucking stupid you are, and laboring under the fucking stupid delusion that you are smarter than everybody else.

      • (((Aron)))

        He writes the way he thinks a smart person writes.

        Instead, he sounds like an eejit.

    • (((Aron)))

      You do realize there are no PMs on Disqus, right?

      Yeah…

      STFU, dumbass.

    • your fans are pathetically predictable? Is that how like Trump loves the poorly educated?

  • The Flaming Carrot
  • merl1

    I seriously doubt that any jury in King County would acquit him. They’ll probably try for a change of venue to somewhere east of the mountains where the knuckle draggers live. they might have a chance there.

    • Ontogenesis

      Hahah, no way King County prosecutor is gonna let that happen. Knives out, King County! (I live in King County).

      • merl1

        So do I. I want to be picked for that jury.

  • LiPao

    {USA! USA!}
    This is the USA but that doesn’t mean you ese’.

  • Panika MCD

    since I helped put a peacenik restorative justice practitioner on the bench and support niche courts of all sorts, I have to say:

    restorative justice does not rule out incarceration, but it does allow for the possibility of parole and rules out the death penalty which doesn’t work anyway.

    restorative justice is a lot of things. it was when Chief Brown put the parents of Micah Johnson in touch with the families and friends of the DPD officers he shot. it is DUI court and the sometimes necessary short sentence that goes with it (because we do not have enough dual treatment beds ANYWHERE in this country). it’s even TX having special veterans units in their prisons where former offenders who are also veterans mentor those getting out. it’s the NA program my brother participated in that went into the Dallas jails and prison to provide sponsorship to those who needed it. it’s writing programs and Windham ISD. it’s a lot of things.

    just because Dukes wants to discuss the actions perpetrated against him with the perpetrators doesn’t mean he’s saying that they shouldn’t be locked up until they see the light.

    • Bee-Doo

      Thanks for the information.

  • Grokenstein

    “The accuser, Joshua Dukes, has repeatedly stated that he does not want this to go through the criminal-justice system. We are disappointed that the prosecution has decided otherwise.

    There aren’t a lot of options when someone pulls a trigger with malice aforethought in a crowd of people. GO TO PRISON, A-HOLES.

  • sundaytrucker

    It’s almost as if Freedumb isn’t free anymore. When I voted for Trump, my high blood alcohol content and years of feasting on lead paint chips ensured me I could things would be different. This is not what I voted for.

  • Keith Taylor

    Hmm. Bonnie and Clyde with political attitude, it seems like. We’re young. We’re in love. We provoke trouble. Then we spray and shoot.

    • I think I was on a date like that once, but it didn’t involve mace or glocks. Perhaps, it should’ve come to think of it.

  • Jeff Mc Donald

    “The couple that slays together, goes to fucking prison miles from each other.” And other romantic sayings.

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    • Carole

      Normally, I’m against spam. But at least you bumped Capt. Kurtz further down the river, I mean thread.

  • Carole
    • Incoming “/FFS” Ham

      Aren’t they just precious? Do you think they met on wingut-date.com?

  • Rivvi Kordia

    Confused? How are they any different than BAMN? They were involved in setting Berkley on fire and breaking windows in the name of ending free speech in America.

  • Rivvi Kordia

    Confused? How are they any different than BAMN? They were involved in setting Berkley on fire and breaking windows in the name of ending free speech in America. I heard that anyone that posts on here with opposing views gets deleted and banned. Lets see.

    • Bezoar

      Could you explain what you’re talking about? Maybe you’re posting at the wrong article? What is BAMN? Is that spelled correctly?

      • javadavis

        He might be a weak-minded cult member. He uses buzzwords as though ‘everyone knows what that means’ and talks like this is some kind of mission.

      • Rivvi Kordia

        by any means necessary a hard left communist group aligned with antifa.

    • thixotropic jerk

      Not condoning violence however property damage is a wee bit different than shooting people!

    • The Flaming Carrot

      We don’t condone swearing, even if it’s off by one letter, and we want George Carlin to be censored, along with George Clinton. Ut.

      • Rivvi Kordia

        That makes zero sense.

    • looks like you heard wrong. But if you go to a right wing site and post actual facts you get banned real fast! So there is that.

    • doktorzoom

      How wrong you are. Sometimes we ban idiots without deleting them.

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

    • The old two wrongs make a right argument, eh?

      • Rivvi Kordia

        No I honestly don’t think that based stickman or that side of this are wrong. I think they are trying to let bamn who oppose free speech know they will not allow it. Bamn uses physical force to stop free speech and their opposition is fighting for free speech rights. So there is only a right fighting tyranny.

  • Pierre_de_Fermat

    One of the conservatives I will look in on is Tom Nichols (a prof at Naval War College).

    Although he does not like HRC (or the Democrats in general), he endorsed her. He regards himself as a Republican conservative. He published this in USAToday
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/04/27/trump-voters-ruining-america-tom-nichols-column/100926836/
    The responses from the DT folks has been predictable: angry, ignorant, resentful. They frequently call him the worst name imaginable: liberal. (He gets complaints from our side too). But it is interesting to watch this. On Twitter as “RadioFreeTom”.

    Rick Wilson ( https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson) is similar. And, maybe, snarkier.

  • tehbaddr

    Cool they had a Kermit flag I think!

  • Jo Mathie

    It will never not amaze me that Republicans call non Trumpets “snowflakes” when they are almost always getting butthurt about people with opposing opinions. From what I’ve seen even the massive global wide women’s march was less violent than one Trump rally.
    “Argh you might regulate gun control a bit more!” Fascist.
    “Climate change is an actual thing” Science liars!
    You’ve got an orange person that shows signs of dementia and has done nothing that he has promised “Donald Trump will make America great again”
    But coal right? (the rest of the world is a bit worried about nuclear war).

    • At least a nuclear winter would solve global warming. Sheesh. There’s no pleasing these libtard snowflakes, is there?

      Um… that’s sarcasm, y’all

  • Barry Reinitz

    To sink to their level he is an ugly obese real American and she looks like an old woman dressed as dorothy from OZ. A very strage couple. Reminds me of Carol Ann Fugate and Charlie Starkweather

    • The Flaming Carrot

      Judy Garland didn’t have saddlebags. (Meeeeow!)

      • (((Aron)))

        Or a penchant for attempted murder!

        • Strepsi

          Really? If I recall she killed a woman by dropping an entire house on her, then murdered another woman by melting her.

          • (((Aron)))

            Good point.

          • The Flaming Carrot

            But those murders actually WERE self-defense.

          • Except for the house thing. That was her entrance.

      • akita96th

        What can you say republican no fact thinkers ..They need brain food from chicken McNuggets to KFC…I gives them those thought waves of ignorance all the while forming up on them thighs and gut giving them those fat wrinkles of GOP wisdom lol sure it does…and gives them bliss like a drug..ahh the fat and grease and the finger licking yummmmmie….Maybe they can eat themselves into oblivion and do the world a favor and have early stroke or heart attack…Fat ass republican militants cant move fast in a crowd and get caught quick by leaner and faster liberals looking to kick some ass.

        • The Flaming Carrot

          To be fair, she could lose the pear shape just by doing some squats and lunges. Probably it was just a lack of exercise on her part. He, on the other hand, was just a hopelessly fat fucker already at age 25.

  • 3FingerPete

    Oh, man. Some links take you on a weird trip.
    .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRNzBJ0Bg1s

    • (((Aron)))

      That’s one disgusting video, Matt Groening ;)

      • The Flaming Carrot

        And the comments. She said “my womb is spoken for,” like some white supremacist baby momma wannabe.

        • (((Aron)))

          She may be a baby momma wannabe, but she is no wannabe white supremacist. She is a fill-in white supremacist!

    • Trying to be the new Anne Coulter or Ayn Rand? Either way ewwwww….

    • ANNG14

      It’s called just lie and blame the other guy for what you do/did.

      • That’s been the Repube MO since Reagan.

        • ANNG14

          Yup…It’s the MO of many liars.

  • Jay Free

    I like the term “snowflake” as it always sets them up for underestimation ;-)

    • Lots of snowflakes = avalanche.

      • akita96th

        If snowflake is a bad thing to a republican ..Hahaha well then I will answer to snowflake…Republican stupids think all democrats are afraid of guns lol…and that all democrats are whinny and want to do away with guns….Not this democrat (there are many like me) I disagree with any thoughts of disarmament or excessive gun control(thats for the fanatical crazy democrats)…As long as crazy republicans are armed to the teeth..lol well so am I. It is crazy people like that in the USA that drives people to own a gun …SO…dont come to my house waving a pistol and praising that crazy fucker Trump and threatening me…I wont be one of your better days.

        • Jeremy

          You sound really, really, dumb.

  • Greg Comlish

    She shot a good Samaritan who was breaking up a fight. She should have been charged with attempted murder with a deadly weapons enhancement, as well as reckless endangerment, conspiracy, inciting a riot, and also assault. I’m thinking no less than 60 years worth of charges with a chance to plea down to maybe 25.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      The Wobbly guy is actually lucky that she was more interested in posing for glamour shots with her Glock and not going to target practice. But it’s still attempted murder. And even if she wasn’t shooting to kill (which I doubt) getting shot in the abdomen leaves you incredibly fucked up and in horrible pain.

      • (((Aron)))

        Nothing more fun than getting gutshot!

      • akita96th

        Oh well at least they wont see their gun again say goodbye glock..UNLESS they are acquitted…by a jury…It is not un-herd of in America getting acquitted when you are obviously proven without a doubt guilty….Then they get their family pet(glock) back to love and hold and cherish…a family reunion.

    • The Flaming Carrot
    • Jacuzzi Jeff

      She knew the Trump supporter would win. She was breaking up the fight before the real American went to jail.

      • (((Aron)))

        Who is ‘she?’

  • JParkerSD46

    Marc Hosebag is another chickenshit little punk-ass who hasn’t got the balls to front up to anyone, male of female. Hiding behind another person to use mace? Having your wife back you up with a gun? You gutless little puke. If you want to instigate a confrontation, then step up and let’s get ready to rumble. I know four-year old girls that are tougher than you. Useless coward. Mom must be so proud.

    • ANNG14

      Hell ya!

  • Louis Pierre Villaire

    antifa is a joke because they bring knifes to a gun fight. It’s obvious the trumptards are going to escalate right to guns. Antifa is a joke until they form a militia to actually fight these trumptards.

    • Escalation is not the answer. Answering violence with violence and anger with anger only provokes more violence and anger. It is far better to use non-violent means to resist and allow the police to handle the violent.

  • ANNG14

    RWers sure are confused. I’ve never heard of violent snowflakes.

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