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Last Friday, the former president of Penn State, Graham Spanier, was convicted of one count of child endangerment for having ignored a 2001 report from graduate assistant Mike McQueary that Sandusky was seen naked with a young boy in the showers. Had he perhaps bothered to take action on that, it probably would have prevented a lot of kids from getting molested.

A member of Penn State’s trustee board, however, has had it UP TO HERE with all the kids Jerry Sandusky molested, and their darn quest for justice from a system that ignored and betrayed them.

In an email to The Chronicle of Higher Education, Alfred L. Lord, the former chief executive of Sallie Mae, defended Spanier and criticized Sandusky’s victims. Whom he referred to as “so-called victims.”

“Running out of sympathy for 35 yr old, so-called victims with 7 digit net worth[…]Do not understand why they were so prominent in trial. As you learned, Graham Spanier never knew Sandusky abused anyone.”

Now, I don’t think anyone really expects the former Chief Executive of Sallie Mae — who made his vast riches off of the student debt crisis — to not be an actual sociopath, or to understand the whole empathy/sympathy thing, but one would think that someone who is 70 or 71 years old would know by now to not say those kinds of things out loud, or write them in an email that you would send to anyone. Or at least one would have thought that, pre-Donald Trump.

What is it, exactly, that makes them “so-called” victims and not actual victims, in Lord’s mind? Is it that they are 35 and should just have let it go by now or something? Is it that Sandusky didn’t actually do anything to actually victimize them? Is it that they have “7 digit net worths”? It’s not really clear here!

Alfred Lord is a very rich person himself — and twice as old as those 35 year olds. Does that mean that he would be totally fine with letting Jerry Sandusky have his way with him against his will? Is that how this works?

Even if Spanier didn’t “know” that Sandusky abused anyone, he still knew that he was hanging out naked in showers with young boys. Which really should have been a red flag! The reason Sandusky was able to continue this for years was because no one did anything about all the red flags, and for that, they should all be held responsible, whether or not that personally annoys Alfred L. Lord.

[Chronicle of Higher Education]

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  • mancityRed6

    I don’t believe in any higher power, because tRump would be in far more trouble than he is.
    And since this person is still living and breathing, it really only reinforces my non belief.
    If god was real, and as vengeful as they were in the OT, you would have been stricken down a long time ago.

  • Hutch

    Alf Lord is elected by Penn State alumni (i.e., he’s an alumni appointee) to the board and he is up for re-election this year. Just saying.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Penn State alums haven’t exactly demonstrated a firm grasp of basic human decency during this entire affair.

      • Hutch

        Look at their role models.

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          Go figure.

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        Well, alum boards everywhere are usually made up of smug, self-serving former asskissers, so there’s that…

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          OK, but the Penn State crowd has been presented with actual evidence of nearly unspeakable evil, and they make excuses for and defend the people who could have ended that evil but didn’t.

          Maybe the smug, self-serving asskissers at Emporia State are every bit as bad, but I haven’t seen any evidence of that, yet.

    • JMP

      This won’t hurt him then. I know a number of people who went to Penn State, including my mom, and every one of them insists that it’s so unfair how the school has been treated for the actions of just one guy, and every time you bring up the coverup they insist that it never ever happened, that nobody knew or possibly.ly could have known what Sandusky was doing, especially Joe Paterno who was a great man and would never have covered up child rape because he has never done a single wrong thing in his entire life.

      College football (and basketball) really is like a religious cult; it makes me very glad for choosing to go to a school with division 3 teams that nobody gave a shit about.

      • mancityRed6

        Coach Calipari.
        From the wikipedia:
        “His 2007–2008 team’s 38 victories set a new NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball record for most victories in a season, a record that now belongs to the 2011–2012 Kentucky Wildcats due to NCAA violations that vacated all of Memphis’ wins.”
        So, Kansas beat a non existent team to win in ’08?
        and now he’s at Kentucky.
        I know, not as bad as Penn state, but still…this shit happens all the damn time.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        For decades Paterno was considered a god because of won/loss record, exceptional graduation rates, his own geeky flood pants fashion sense, and not coincidentally plain white uniforms. This is why so many alums cling so tightly to the pure Paterno myth.

        • JMP

          Yeah, growing up I always got the “Joe Paterno runs the most moral college football team because of graduation rates plus there uniforms don’t have names” crap from my mom. And she graduated Penn State in 1970, which shows you how long the Paterno myth was around.

      • puredog

        Those convictions sound like they would fit in quite well with the perspective that (a) Trump is a great man, and (b) a great American, and is (c) being hounded unfairly by the nattering nabobs of negativism.

  • mancityRed6

    What is it with guys named Lord. It’s like they have a damn complex.

  • memzilla Ω

    BREAKING:
    Head of Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party Berates So-Called ‘Victims’
    Who Allegedly Have No Faces; Leopards Mull Countersuit

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Who’s been leaking those photos of folks with no faces?!

  • Suttree

    As someone with PTSD (no a shrink never said that because I have been avoiding mental health professionals for the past 13 years) from getting mugged and stabbed 15 times, I want to (redacted) with votes. These kinds of people make me want to get religious. And medieval.

    • ahughes798

      Jeez, Suttree, that’s horrible!

  • lucidamente

    Man, Tennyson has really gotten creepy in his old age.

  • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

    Miz Anna gonna bow out of this thread. No use getting Banhammered.

    • mancityRed6

      “know when to hold ’em, know when to fold ’em, know when to walk away…” before someone gets [redacted] in their [redacted]

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Know when to fold them, know when to spin and mutilate them.

    • Me not sure

      It’s Saturday and I think Dok is off, so splurge.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Trustees. Because why would you trust people who college for a living to run the joint when you can get rich people from other industries to do it?

    EDIT: maybe I’m just biased, having had one particularly drunk (and quite influential) trustee slurringly suggest course names to me for my courses. Fuck off, Midge.

  • JMP

    If someone who was raped as a child has a decent life as an adult, then obviously it couldn’t have been that bad and is really no big deal!

    • Suttree

      Republican logic.

    • folderol

      It’s because money is the measure of all things. If you can’t translate it into dollars/person, then you have no business even mentioning it.

  • Suttree

    OT: I am making Lizzie and herb turkey meatball stew with kale. I am trying to decide whether to make drop biscuits or regular biscuits. I did put a can of diced tomatoes into the stock. Ideas?

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      DO NOT PUT LIZZIE IN THE STEW….I’m begging you!….

      • Suttree

        Hehe! Phrasing?

        • Toomush_Inferesistance

          On the other hand, l’m not sure who herb is….

          • Msgr_MΩment

            Peaches’ squeeze.

          • Suttree

            I actually have a sorta relative named Herbert who we always call Herb.

          • puredog

            Pronounced “Urb”?

          • Suttree

            Depends how many drinks you have had.

          • Querolous

            Exactly. Just like Umbert Umbert.

          • Thaumaturgist

            Can’t stan your puns.

          • (Major_Major_Major)ly_Pissed

            Don be saying things like that.

          • willi0000000

            and who is “kale” and why is he helping?

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Plus, prolly sufficiently spicy already.

    • mancityRed6

      drop is always better, just for the outside texture.

      • HazooToo

        We gon fight in a field.

        • mancityRed6
          • HazooToo
          • MynameisBlarney
          • Hutch

            Pallas cat. How totally cool!

          • ahughes798

            Still my fave Pallas Cat video:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIXw-3H48yU

          • MynameisBlarney
          • ahughes798

            I love this one, too! I have a thing about Pallas cats, and I don’t know why.

          • MynameisBlarney
          • I had a cat bring me one of those once. It was not entirely dead. The trash rat I mean.
            Cat was all tore up but acted as if he had just discovered the cure for Republicanism or something. Fucking 300 dollar vet bill.

          • Suttree

            I have always wanted a pet racoon. The crazy cat lady across from the bar in New Orleans had a sorta kinda pet racoon that played with her #1 kitteh. They climbed trees together and chased each other around. It was fucking adorable!

          • HazooToo

            Omg yes! I waaaaant! But they’re very hard to domesticate.

          • Msgr_MΩment
          • Suttree

            I love you kitty!!!!!!

          • mancityRed6

            they used to have ads in the big nickel when I was in Joplin, about 24 years ago…
            *sobs* dammit, I’m so old.

          • ahughes798

            Look up “Raccoon roundworm” and see if you still want one. But I know what you mean, they are adorable. I’ve always wanted a pet skunk(de-stinkified, of course).

          • Suttree

            No thanks. It has been and always will be a dream. I have enough nightmares already.

          • ahughes798

            We’re going to have to quit feeding the squirrels this summer because we’ve lost 3 of them over the winter to Raccoon Roundworm. We hope they’ll disperse. It’s heartbreaking to watch the disease progress in them, and I can’t do a damn thing about it. Also, our neighbors get real upset if wildlife shows up in their yard. We damn near live in the country. I guess they expected only pigeons and rats when they moved up from Bridgeport.

          • Its the lil hands. They have little hands yo!

          • Celtic_Gnome

            We used to think little hands were cute. Sigh.

          • ahughes798

            I know. The night we had our central air installed(have to have, because MS and getting too warm is BAD.) I had the back door open, and I hear these weird noises outside. I looked out the back door, and there were 4 baby raccoons crawling all over the central air unit like they were monkeybars. The louder sound was coming from their mother, kind of a chirring sound. I’m sure she was telling them to get the hell off there. This was the most abso-fucking-lutely cutest thing to ever happen in my backyard. I wanted one of those little babies sooo bad!

          • Celtic_Gnome

            Put a lock on the refrigerator, because they can figure out how to get the damned thing open, and they’ll empty everything in there onto the floor.

          • Suttree

            Years ago I had 2 pure black kittens that I rescued. I called them both Bruce because I couldn’t tell them apart. I woke up one hot ass summer morning and couldn’t find one of them. I walked the neighborhood looking for the little guy. I finally gave up and went home. I was all upset and went to the fridge for a beer. Little fucker had snuck in there in the middle of the night when I got up for a glass of water. He looked up at me from the top shelf like “‘sup dude? why you letting all of my cold out?”. :)

          • Msgr_MΩment

            The raccoon really ties the family together.

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            The Palins, if Rich Lowery had kept his damned thoughts to himself.

          • (Major_Major_Major)ly_Pissed

            Redneck emo kid with raccoon is my new goal in life.

          • mancityRed6

            it’s good to have dreams.

    • HazooToo

      Regular biscuits, and served beside the stew, not on it. Better for soaking up!

      • mancityRed6

        that’s a lot of work to get the form right.

    • Persistent Demme

      Why not just plop dumplings on top of the stew?
      http://search.kingarthurflour.com/search?w=dumplings&af=type:recipes

      • Suttree

        That’s what I’m talking about, BTW my step-mother used to be a baker at KAF. I lost my bread baking book in a move years ago. :(

        • Persistent Demme

          I love KAF!!
          Being a baker there must’ve been great!

          • Suttree

            They sent her to school to bake! And also too, employee owned company. I miss living in Vermont for awesome things like that.

          • Persistent Demme

            Wow!
            I just got their flour yesterday!
            It’s so great!
            (On sale at Safeway.)

          • Paul

            Hey there Suttree, Holly here coming to you from Paul’s computer. I’m now a big fan of King Arthur Flour. I get an email a day with the recipe of the day since I signed up. If I’m looking for a specific something I go to the KAF site. I love these guys. Vermont huh? Wherebouts were you when you lived there?

            Love to Liz. Holly and Paul

          • Suttree

            I lived in Strafford when I went to high school. That’s where my father still lives. Then I lived there for a while in the aughts in Windsor. So central Vermont for the most part. No snow days as an adult! Work would let you off if you had an excuse, but they never closed! Over 75% of the crew would show up in the middle of a nor’easter where we wound up getting 2 feet of snow. My commute was 25 miles one way.

          • Paul

            That’s some beautiful country up there. I worked in construction here in the Berkshires and we all showed up too. Road crews are pretty good at keeping things passable. Never quite enough trucks for the heavy dumps, but studded snows and 4 wheel will get through the shit they can’t get to in time.

            Lot more snow up there though.

          • Suttree

            I liked the snow just fine. It was the inevitable cold snap that came afterwords that sucked.

    • Suttree

      Ok, since the feedback from this is even, I am going to do both. All I’m doing today is getting drunk and cuddling anyway.

      • Me not sure

        Alcohol and cuddling are the perfect sides for srew. Well done.

        • Suttree

          And kitten live streams and stuffed anermals.

      • mancityRed6

        no, hell no, I’m not jealous.
        not one bit
        damn you.

    • Hutch
      • Suttree

        I’m not crazy about it but my body needs some roughage right now. There was a funny piece in The New Yorker a few years back about 1 week after kale/1 month after kale/etc……

      • Jamoche

        I had a summer job at a steak restaurant with a salad bar. Kale will always be “the stuff to hide the spills” to me.

    • McMema6

      Well, drop is less labor intensive, but you do have the empty can from the stewed tomatoes to use for punching out your biscuits.
      Besides, I think we would all like to punch out something right about now (with votes and an empty can).

    • (Major_Major_Major)ly_Pissed

      Lizzie and herb turkey meatball stew, eh? FYI, if you’re grinding her up and adding her to meatballs you’re eating her wrong.
      On a serious note, drop biscuits. Easier and more interesting.

    • Jennifer R

      Tomato soup and Cornbread. Put the cornbread in the soup until it’s able to be eaten with a fork.

  • lucidamente

    You know what Alfred Lord said about Joe Paterno?

    • HazooToo

      He bakes up better if you poke holes in him first?

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      “Do you have any kids?”

    • eggsacklywright

      Tennyson anyone?

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Rape a child, rape a child,
        One more child onward,
        All in the Valley of Happy
        Rode J. Sundsky
        “Forward, Paterno Brigade!
        “And the Trustees!” he said:
        Into the valley of Happy
        Charged J. Sandusky.

  • exinkwretch

    Anal rape would not be a big deal to this guy. His head is up his ass so much it would be very well stretched.

  • Nounverb911

    “What’s in your Lord’s wallet closet?”

    • HazooToo

      A ‘woman suit’ made of real gen-yoo-wine woman?

  • Nounverb911

    Headline we’d like to see:

    PENN STATE ALUMNI GOES TO STATE PEN

    • puredog

      Um — “ALUMNUS.”
      /s/ “That Guy”

      • Hutch

        One male graduate = alumnus
        One female graduate = alumna
        Many male graduates = alumni
        Many female graduates = alumnae
        The default plural is alumni unless you’re at a women’s college then it is always alumnae.

        If I had a dime for how many times I’ve had to explain this to alumni organizations, I’d have “seven-digit net worth.”

        • puredog

          All true. I assumed that the headline referred to Lord (the possibly incarceration-worthy subject of this discussion) in the singular (“goes”), hence, “alumnus.”

          • Hutch

            No, no, you were absolutely right! You just reminded me that no one takes Latin anymore.

  • MynameisBlarney

    He seems nice.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Penn State alumni: Now more insufferable than Notre Dame alums.

    • I know a lot of Penn State alumni, and almost all of them are indeed insufferable.

    • mancityRed6

      Dad took me to the theater to see that.
      I was disappointed that there were 4 endings until the dvd came out.
      Also, Lee Ving in a movie….hell yes.

      • One of my favourites! It may be added to birthday cake and movies day

        • Jennifer R

          If you can deal with some criminally embarrassing yellow face by Peter Sellers, Murder by Death is funny.

          • Hutch

            Isn’t it “Murder by Death?” I loved that movie!

    • sudden_eyes

      GIF perfection, thank you.

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      Just watched this last night. :)
      God, I love Madeline Kahn

  • McMema6

    I’d comment, but I’m currently in the middle of a rage stroke right now and clawing my way to the liquor cabinet.

  • ManchuCandidate

    But you silly liebruls. Footbawl and the glory and CTE that go with it are the be all and end of existence! Joe Pa is a saint and it’s all Sandusky’s fault.
    /end Penn State excusers/

    Personally, I think they should just burn the stadium to the ground and salt the field with the ground up remains of Joe Paterno’s statue and leave it as a statement that winning at Footbawl should not a higher priority than stopping kids being raped.

    • McMema6

      Carthago delenda est!

      • McMema6

        I know. I misspelled Penn State.

        • What Pierre said

          Status Collegium delenda est just doesn’t have the same ring to it

          • McMema6

            NCAA delenda est votes?

  • This seems to be what Milo was getting at and I am betting, the new Right Wing talking point.
    Man up! You’re 35 now! Boo hoo if you got abused as a child, get over it!
    This is why I choose to believe in heaven and hell. Because this sort of fucker is a roaster.

    • mancityRed6

      I want to believe in the Old Testament god. Those people got their asses handed to them.

      • I go for the NT guy. He is an ok guy!
        But “whatsoever you do to the least of my people” is a one way ticket to eternal damnation. I am really ok with that. And I do not think the cosmos accepts the excuse that I was just following orders.

        • mancityRed6

          I really want to believe that when they show up at the pearly gates they will be asked, “when I was sick, or in prison, or poor, what did you do for me?” and then be cast into the horrible hell that is hell.
          but on the other hand, I’d really like to see them get some just deserts while alive.
          that’s just me, I’m mean like that.

          • I am down with that also, which is why I said it is time to investigate this fucker

    • efoveks

      And a broiler on religious holidays..

  • chascates
  • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

    Aww, what the Hell. It is my opinion that people that have not had to survive sexual abuse as children should *not* offer any criticism of those of us that have, especially when they are Subhuman pieces of Man-shaped Dung like the exemplar we are examining in this thread.

    • mancityRed6

      yeppers.
      if you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, shut up and sit the fuck down.

    • I would go further myself. I would suggest that old rich white men who trivialize the suffering and abuse of people as children have a shady past of their own.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

        I think you’re on to something there. If they are this lacking in empathy and fellow-feeling, they are dangerous to know.

        • They are not lacking in empathy, is the real red flag. Their empathy is for the abuser, however. THAT is what makes me go….
          uh huh…time to investigate this mother fucker

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        • Lord Jim

          What really has my eyebrow arched is why does this guy even care about the issue? What dog does he really have in this fight? It makes me VERY suspicious…

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            That’s a good point, Jim. Why *does* he feel the need to stick his oar in? Hmm.

          • miss_grundy

            Graham Spanier is the dog in his fight.

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    • JMP

      And that extends to adult victims of rape and domestic violence as well; the “they’re not reacting the way I think a victim should” crap is so common.

      • mancityRed6

        that shit really burns my britches.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

        Indeed. I hate all the blaming and shaming, like Volcanic-rage Hate.

    • Jennifer R

      Could not have said it better myself.

    • The Witch of Endor

      That is a wonderful way of saying “fuck (with votes!), these pieces of shit. Early and often!”

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

        Thank you. I feel calm enough to post on this thread after all. It often feels like these blamers-and-shamers are everywhere, like my life is a minefield of Triggers.

  • Persistent Demme

    TAKER!!!!

  • Chadwells

    Well…the flip side to him being 70-71 is that he’ll be dead soon. Old piece of shit.

    • Agreed, but the damage is done and he’ll probably live to 90 or something.

      • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

        The truly evil ones always live forever. Look at Manson.

        • Jennifer R

          Lincoln, Shot; Medgar Evers, Shot; Kennedy, Shot; Reagan, Wounded. No justice.

        • yyyaz

          One of mine made it to 100, another is 86 right now.

  • ServantToTheStars

    Don’t drop the “so called” soap.

  • Wild Cat

    Stick a Cocker into Spanier against his will and see if his opinion changes . . .

    • Thaumaturgist

      Hound Spanier all the way to jail?

      • puredog

        Throw a wrench in his gears.

  • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

    So if your entire life isn’t a total train wreck, you’ve never been abused? WTF???

    • Jennifer R

      Well off abusers like to gaslight.

      • The Witch of Endor
      • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

        Well, gaslighting is pretty important for serial abusers of all stripes. If they can convince their victims it never happened, then they avoid capture. Sadly, it works more often than not.

        • Jennifer R

          It really does, nothing helps the feelings of helplessness like having your abuser constantly feeding them.

          • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

            Hey, I’m very sorry. You sound like someone whose had a lot more experience with this than most. I’m only sorry in that you might have had to go through it, not that you should feel bad for it. I’m basically sorry for the nature of the world we live in.

          • Jennifer R

            I am angry about it, angry that my abuser’s only punishment has been most of her children leaving in one way or another. (moved, suicide, lives in car instead of with, stuff like that). Angry that I never even got a sorry. Fucking ass if I wasn’t dirt poor I might have Filial laws on my ass for her too.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            I’m another that gets to accept Survival instead of seeking any Justice.

            People wonder at times why I’m so angry….

          • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

            My therapist always tells me that it’s okay to be mad. Being mad means you don’t blame yourself for things you had no choice in. Be mad. That’s your right and no reasonable person would deny you that. They don’t call it righteous anger for nothing.

          • Jennifer R

            I am still very scared of my anger. I was always bigger than the other kids, and I was red shirted due to my birth date. So that basically boiled down to “Something happen? Blame the biggest kid (who also happens to be an atheist)” So I balled it all away for oh so long, even after I learned to let the other emotions back out.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            ~hugs~

        • This. This guy needs to be investigated. Like now.

  • MynameisBlarney
    • mancityRed6

      so why were you talking to Russia? why did you get the Ukraine thing in the RNC platform? why are you using less orange body spray these days?

    • Roni Raven, Just Microwavin’

      Yes, fuck face, they were investigating you before you were nominated because you’re all Russian mobbed up.

      I can’t wait until this fucker goes down.

    • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

      So, what are the odds on 45 getting a job on RT when he flees to Mother Russia?

      • Roni Raven, Just Microwavin’

        Doing what? He can’t write or speak like a human above the age of 4.

        • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

          I dunno, maybe he could do a state sponsored reality show or some such nonsense.

      • puredog

        Um — if you are referring to the print medium, I would think that his illiteracy would disqualify him.

        • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

          Maybe the Kremlin would hire a ghostwriter for him and he could do “The Art of the Deal” all over again.

    • Lord Jim
      • Celtic_Gnome

        Donnie will go through the impeachment, the treason trial, and kicking and screaming all the way to prison going on about how he was the wronged party.

        • Swampgas_Man

          Sadly, so will most of the fishwrap readers around my area.

          OT: Do NOT eat cream-filled donuts over a keyboard!

  • The evil was always there…but the Age of Trump has given these monsters the courage to say what they’ve kept silent for so long.

    Fuck ’em.

    • Wellstone En Resistencia, Coño

      It gives us the opportunity (we’ve always had the courage) to confront these motherfuckers and make their lives uncomfortable until they shut up and go back to their mothers’ basements to eat their fucking chicken nuggets. There’s always a silver lining, wouldn’t you say?

      • Excellent point. I should have remembered that since I have been calling people out all along.

  • Nounverb911
    • These are the fake ones, right?
      RIGHT???

      • BMW

        I don’t see it on his twitter page.

        • yyyaz

          I’m thinking someone deleted it because it illustrates perfectly that the first (only?) thought that occurs to him regarding anything is how to make a buck from it.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Not only is he dumb as a fucking stump. He’s also bat-shit fucking crazy.

    • The Witch of Endor

      And to the #PutinPuppet, I reply “You are but wind.”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL8kZ-iVk90

      • mancityRed6

        oh thank dog, it wasn’t a Kansas song.

        • The Witch of Endor

          Given the right circumstance, I’ll post a Kansas song, but Karl Jenkins seemed most appropriate.

    • OrG

      So,do gun manufacturers owe Obama a commission?

    • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

      Or maybe you could stop tweeting about them. I would have thought a “so-called business genius” could figure that out for himself. You are a failed @POTUS.

      SAD!

      • Rachel Book Harlot

        He also tweeted about Obama surveillance again. He’s off his rocker.

      • Lord Jim

        He wants to disparage the NYT as a failing paper (because losing is the most terrifying thing a narcissist can imagine), but then admits that they’re prospering and tries to take credit for it. I need a fucking neck brace trying to follow that.

    • yyyaz

      The time stamps show it took the OPOS 3 minutes to get that second two-liner typed.

      • Erala Contratista

        Thumb cramps. Also wandering mind.

    • Wellstone En Resistencia, Coño

      Again, is he on crack? Fucking looks like it.

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      Apparently, this idiot has been tweeting all morning.

      • yyyaz

        Yes, I have his real-time idiocy on display in another tab. The man is sick.

        • Rachel Book Harlot

          He’s out of control. I honestly can’t believe this man hasn’t been impeached already. If any other president had done this, they would have been deemed dangerous to the position they held. But Trump? Crickets. I really hope Americans see the GOP for what they are and they take a hit in 2018.

          • Lord Jim

            As I mentioned in a previous thread, the President’s party usually loses Congressional seats in the midterms. In addition, congresscritters have been stirring the wrath of their constituents by going AWOL from meetings with their electorate. Combine this with Hair Fuhrer’s cratering approval rating, and you have the makings of electoral bloodbath.

          • Rachel Book Harlot

            I hope you’re right, Jim. It’s the only thing giving me some measure of hope.

          • HogeyeGrex

            That’s the only thing keeping me vaguely sane.

            Taking the house, maybe the Senate, but it’s a shitty map.
            Pence fucks off like a common Agnew when the indictments start flowing.
            Impeachment.
            President Pelosi.

      • Flashman

        If there is one upside to all this, it is that the GOP will be unable to be sanctimonious about any form of depravity in anyone else for the rest of our lives.

        • Pierre_de_Fermat

          I would not count on that.

        • HogeyeGrex

          You don’t really think any of this is going to stop them, do you?

        • Swampgas_Man

          Yeah, like Watergate shut ’em up.

      • Pierre_de_Fermat

        Schindler on the tweets:

        Putin knows Trump is a fool. Don's coming collapse, which will throw US politics into unimaginable chaos, is welcomed by the Kremlin. SAD!— John Schindler (@20committee) April 1, 2017

        Trump will keep throwing out incoherent word salad tweets — Unmasked! Wiretapp! Obama! FAKE NEWS! — right until indictments are unsealed.— John Schindler (@20committee) April 1, 2017

        The “president” is going to get this country into something bad, and he will have no idea why or how it happened, and he and his island of misfit toys advisors will have no idea how to resolve it.

        • Pierre_de_Fermat

          Addition:

          In response to:

          BREAKING: US investigators are looking into whether Trump campaign reps helped Russian intel carry out cyberattacks, @jeffpeguescbs reports

          Pucker factor: Prison level.https://t.co/L2Zw4myGHj— John Schindler (@20committee) April 1, 2017

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    There is not one thing I can say about this that would pass the banhammer test. Therefore I am going to go teach my puppy to sit. Peace, y’all.

    • mancityRed6

      a treat in front of their nose, lifted up and back.

    • Riley Whodat Venable

      Give the puppy a treat for each successive approximation. Learning is hard for furchildren. Show them lots of love.

  • TJ Barke

    WTF is wrong with these people? How can they even pretend to have any moral legitimacy?

    • Jennifer R

      Doesn’t matter when you swim in your money pool.

    • mancityRed6
    • Wellstone En Resistencia, Coño

      I don’t think they bother pretending. This guy is your typical one-percenter, like ol’ Leona Helmsley and Donald himself. No need to pretend. They are what they are and they think it’s OK because they have money.

    • Lord Jim

      Chris Hedges once related in an interview about being a youth in a private boarding school with the scions of plutocrats. He talked about the rare visitations by parents being engineered into publicity stunts. I recall in particular him musing over 11- and 12-year-old kids ordering around adults. The entitlement mentality is inculcated early.

  • Jennifer R

    God Fucking Dammit.

    I just had my drinking for the rolling month yesterday. I seriously cannot deal with this fucker now.

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

      ~hugs~ Would you like to talk?

      • Jennifer R

        I would like to live in the not Evil Mirror Universe.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

          I hear that, Darlin’. I for one could use a break from war, but I don’t think I’m ever going to get it.

          • Jennifer R

            I can sleep when I am dead, This world is too cold and bitter for me to not spend myself helping others.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            ~hugs~ Roger that, affirm.

          • Lord Jim

            Pace yourself. Be good to yourself. There’s a lot of evil that needs fighting, and you’ll need to look out for your physical and emotional well-being as much as anyone else’s. It’s a high-anxiety time.

  • Prolecat

    Who cares if these people got diddled by a perv and nobody did anything about it? They have money so everything’s good. Now STFU about it all!

  • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

    The part of me that was meant to be a Tiger-blooded Stone Killer in a jet’s cockpit feels like this right now:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8BgRUTJKIA

    • mancityRed6

      my ex’s dad has the agent orange exposure and now they’re finding out about agent pink. yes, agent pink.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

        There’s an Agent Blue, too.

        If I had been healthier and not abused, I might have been flying over Kosovo, and OEF/OIF.

        • mancityRed6

          I was watching a (soon to be) friend of mine drop troops off of a boat in Somalia when I was in my departing company in very late ’91

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            I met a former Ranger that was in the “Blackhawk Down” incident. He didn’t say much about it. He was in one of the Chalks that fast-roped in, he might have even been in the first one that got shot down.

          • mancityRed6

            no one who has ever seen or been in or around real combat wants to talk/brag about it. no one.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            Indeed. That’s how you tell the combat vets from the poseurs.

          • puredog

            I didn’t understand that phenomenon for the longest time, then one day it clicked and I totally got it. Don’t remember the precipitating moment, but I suspect it came from some sort of episode of pants-shitting debilitating fear (though I don’t remember what that could possibly have been; then again, that’s exactly the kind of thing one might want to repress if possible).

          • shivaskeeper

            It’s not so much repressing the memories as avoiding your judgement. At least for me. I talk about my service. I tell stories about my time in, but I don’t talk or tell stories about actual combat. I don’t want to be judged by you, nor do I want you to treat me like I’m broken because of it. You not having the relevant experience will invariably lead to one of those two things to one degree or another.

          • shivaskeeper

            We talk about it with other combat vets.

          • Persistent Demme

            Yep.
            My late uncle was in the Navy for WWII, Korea, and Vietnam.
            I had just watched “The Pacific,” and was curious, so I asked him, “where were you?”
            “Everywhere,” he replied.
            Message received.
            I changed the subject.

          • Hutch

            My uncle was on the Vestal which was moored next to the Arizona during the Pearl Harbor attack. Would. Not. Talk. About. It.

        • Jennifer R

          Green, Pink, Purple, Blue, White, Orange I, Orange II, Orange III, Super Orange. We really loved our chemical warfare herbicides.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            Good Gawd. I knew about Blue because of David Hackworth. That’s what triggered the cancer that killed him.

          • Jennifer R

            My dad eventually died from his Orange exposure, but not before passing on the endocrine disruptors to me and my brother (Now we even suspect that it can cause cross gender features in offspring!)

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            My…I don’t know what to say. ~hugs~

          • Jennifer R

            Our government was ruled by Evil in the most Pratchian sense.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            Truth.

      • Jennifer R

        My dad was one of the test subjects too.

      • Thaumaturgist

        What kind of illness does Agent Pink cause?

        • mancityRed6

          I dunno, I only know the ex father in law was getting looked at for something.

    • Me not sure

      A second strike is not uncalled for, just to stay on the safe side.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

        “Cowgirl is in hot and off Safe. Pickle! Shack! Cowgirl is Winchester and RTB.”

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
  • BMW
    • mancityRed6
      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

        Quite Cricket of you, Old Man. XD

        • mancityRed6

          I bought it before I left Wales, I ended up using it as a prop for a Shaun halloween costume.
          Yes, I had red on me.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            Nice. :)

    • Scrofula

      Fuckin kids, I had an anal fissure once, and I didn’t go demanding millions of dollars! They’re 35 ffs, surely their buttholes have healed by now!

      • HorseChestnut

        People really do believe shit like that! I’ve known people who straight up don’t believe that emotional injury/ suffering exists, only physical injuries. That’s so wrong it’s nauseating.

        • Scrofula

          Shit, you can quantify it for settlements in lost potential earnings cause yer too terrified to leave the house.
          It’s probably part of that corporate anti-tort propaganda. I love people vote for malpractice caps. Yer telling me if the doctor cuts off the wrong leg, or mangles your pecker, yer OK with just $10k?

    • Persistent Demme

      Aww…are you fed up?
      #whitepeopleproblems

  • Mavenmaven

    This is why Trump did his first post election rally in Hershey, PA.

  • Fartknocker

    I’ve added Graham Spencer to my list of graves I’ll be pissing on when this son a bitch dies. Let’s see, other graves where I’ll be taking a piss on are Dampnuts, Dick Cheney and Pat Robertson. I call it a Pisstivus since it should be as fun as a Festivus.

    • mancityRed6

      Limbaugh, Savage, Tom Delay, Gingrich, Ronnie Reagan, W (when he goes), the list just keeps getting longer.

      • Prof. T. Green Bastard

        I still get a tiny charge every time I’m reminded that Scalia is gone.

        Ooh, see, there it goes again.

        • mancityRed6

          I’m just jealous that I didn’t get to help.

          • Prof. T. Green Bastard

            There’s still time for Thomas to trip @ the top of some stairs. On votes, which are slippery as shit, I hear.

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      When each one goes down eventually, I hope we’re still here so I can find you & wish you a Happy Pisstivus.

    • Wellstone En Resistencia, Coño

      Don’t forget Richard Spencer.

      • OrG

        Umm….this could go on all day.

    • Persistent Demme

      I think I’ll find a special place for your Pisstivus list in my “dead to me” room.
      Hmmm…next to Susan Sarandon or Dubya.
      (Decisions, decisions!)

  • Parakeetist

    Evil!

  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    Yep. This is gonna be sooo great for recruitment, Spencey….

  • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

    Looked at Donnie’s twitter feed and had to laugh at this:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/847625389908217856

    How are you going to harness the full potential of women when your own VP can’t be in the same room with them unless his wife is there to hold his hand?

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      Get out here n cooperate, ladies. Those pussies ain’t gonna grab themselves.

    • Scrofula

      The full potential of women, get ’em all up to at least 6, with implants or whatever, make sure every woman is hot, bangable, like my daughter.

    • Wellstone En Resistencia, Coño

      I didn’t see any women of color. Did I miss something?

      • Querolous

        WOC≠10

    • Apple Scruff

      He thinks slick production values will make everyone forget about his pussygrabbing.

    • SeekingResistanceBarbie

      That “cheer” was dubbed.

    • Morningside

      This makes me want to puke.

  • Scrofula

    That asshole wasn’t just grabbing boy ass, he was straight raping them. He was under investigation for a decade at least, and the U staff thought the embarrassment of exposing it would tarnish their precious football program, and the $$$ that goes with it.

    So pretty easy settlement, if you can add up all the supposed “savings” to the program over the years by keeping Sandusky on. That’s kind of a starting point.

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      Can we just dissolve the school’s football program? No more football team for Penn State evar again? Too harsh?

      • Scrofula

        Were they not suspended? Yeah, if student athletes can’t sign autographs, rape cover-ups should also be against the rules.

        • Jennifer R

          Wasn’t that overturned?

          • Scrofula

            No idea one way or another. Just thought, wow, that is indeed quite appropriate and should have happened.

          • Jennifer R

            IIRC there was a court case over it and the school got the team and it’s records reinstated.

        • Prof. T. Green Bastard

          I dunno, I don’t football. But it seems to me they just out to not even be able to have a team. Maybe once everyone involved in covering for Sandusky while he raped children is long dead. Then we’ll see.

      • Jennifer R

        That is what should have happened, also too the administration going to jail.

      • They tried to suspend the Penn State program. Penn State and their fans NEVER STOPPED WHINING ABOUT IT. So they reinstated the program to shut them all up.

        • Prof. T. Green Bastard

          “They” being people who also are profiting from Penn State’s football program. So I’m sure “they” tried very hard. Fans whining abt a team that plays a game is so much harder to ignore than child rape, too.

          I’m glad everybody has their outrage properly prioritized.

          • Just to be clear. I personally would have burned the whole place to the ground and salted the earth. I was typing the above comment on my phone and did not have the time or resources to go into exactly how disgusted by the entire affair and the decades of cover-ups, not to mention the on-campus riots by fratboys who were JUST FINE with a child rapist on campus as long as Penn State won games.

          • Prof. T. Green Bastard

            I was totally pissy in my comments yesterday, but I didn’t think you were defending them or anything. That shit makes me crazy, sorry.

        • shivaskeeper

          The NCAA hit them with some sanctions, but later rescinded most of them.

      • shivaskeeper

        Too much money for the school. Too much money into the local economy. Too much money involved overall.

        • Prof. T. Green Bastard

          Oh yeah, can’t provoke the money beast. Maybe we can just simplify the process & negotiate how many sex abuse/assault victims per deviant per team per winning season that we’re willing to look the other way on. Maybe we can set a cap or something.

          • shivaskeeper

            If I was the sole arbiter of that situation I would have burned the entire football program to the ground. No more football, no more scholarships, no more money for it. I would have also stipulated that there would be no chance to rebuild the program until every person involved with the coverup had died off.

          • Prof. T. Green Bastard

            I like that. I like that very fucking much. Its perfect.

            My last comment’s ire wasn’t directed @ you, I feel like I should clarify. But I’ll bet you already knew that. :)

          • shivaskeeper

            I knew it.

          • Ill-Advised

            Now there’s a modest proposal.

    • OrG

      Money overrules EVERYTHING in USAmerica.

  • bupkus23

    I just went looking how this guy got to be one of Penn State’s “trustees” in the first place ( appointed? elected? by whom? ) – and found something just as “interesting” as his asshole comments:

    [ From January 2015 ]

    Link: https://www.newamerica.org/education-policy/edcentral/former-sallie-mae-ceo-center-federal-corruption-probe/

    “…Albert Lord, the former chief executive officer of the student loan giant Sallie Mae, is at the center of a federal corruption probe against Chaka Fattah, a longtime Democratic Congressman from Pennsylvania.

    At issue is an illegal $1 million loan that Lord allegedly made to help Fattah’s failed 2007 bid to become the mayor of Philadelphia. …”

    [ Fattah was convicted last summer of taking that illegal loan, and is serving a 10-year federal sentence for “racketeering” – so how is it that Lord was apparently untouched? ]

    “…So far, Lord has not been charged with committing any crime, and it is unclear whether or not he will be. Lord has repeatedly refused to comment on the matter…. ”

    [ As far as my original questions, Lord was “elected by alumni” ( yeah – one has to wonder how many Penn Staters actually voted – I suspect turnout was somewhat lower than, say, an off-year or “special” Congressional election ) in July 2014, and stands for re-election starting later this month. ]

    Fuck this guy.

    • HogeyeGrex

      stands for re-election starting later this month.

      One has to wonder whether his comments are going to help or hurt his chances.
      Fuck not-just-this-guy.

  • OTB

    Does this mean we need a Spaniersplainer?

  • Flashman

    Lord Alfred is the real victim here. I trust that Penn State will urge him to set fire to himself presently.

  • SeekingResistanceBarbie

    OT: I watched the President’s Weekly Address about the Gorsuch nomination. It’s like a TV campaign ad, with music, shots of people gazing up at the Capitol Dome, and trump spewing lies and ignorance about SCOTUS.

    • OrG

      It looks like a TV campaign ad because it IS a TV campaign ad.

  • Chadwells
  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    I was mostly busy with my son today so I will use this as the open thread to show what made my son chuckle all afternoon and you might need a laugh too:

    HUMAAAAIN!

    https://www.facebook.com/boredpanda/videos/10155201332414252/

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      Awww! I hope he let him in.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        And let him steal all the Camembert?

        • Rachel Book Harlot

          Sadly, I’m a sucker for a pretty face. My cat has me wrapped around his paw.

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            And I love how the maker showed the essence of the feline: ” I can go anywhere. Ok so why do you want to come in here? because it’s CLOSED!”

          • Rachel Book Harlot

            lol Too true.

    • calliecallie

      That is the funniest thing I have seen all day! Thank you, I needed a laugh.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        Bon, d’accord. ^_^

    • Little Doll
      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        That must be an all time internet classic.

        • Little Doll

          One of my old faves, and used less at Wonkette than the “Tom Hanks Money Pit Laugh” video.

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            Oh and Golden girls bloopers always bring a smile to my face.

      • Serai 1

        Henri! Je sympathise, mon ami. La vie est terrible, c’est vrai.

    • Serai 1

      Oh, Jesus, that cat. Every time I play the clip of him yelling, my cats get this freaked out look and stare at the speakers. I don’t know what that cat is saying, but apparently he’s a real asshole.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yie9Bgo69m8

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        HUMAAAIN! Ouvriez la porte, Je n’ai pas la clé.

      • Anna_in_pdx

        Thanks I just managed to freak both my cats out with that! They are still looking around, confused. Hee hee hee

        • Serai 1

          Haha. I played it earlier and Frodo leaped up from the sofa and ran over to the window next to the speaker and looked out. It took him a minute to realize it was coming from the speaker, and then he just stared at it with this WTF DUDE expression on his face.

  • Nounverb911
    • tegrat

      Unfortunately, he’s no Gerald Ford…

    • Serai 1

      Be sure to scroll all the way to the bottom…

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      COMING SOON: Russian Translation

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      Shamecube!!

  • Pinkham’s Law

    This is not the post I mentioned looking forward to last night.

    • Jennifer R

      I should hope not!

    • shivaskeeper

      I was going to say something about that.

    • The Witch of Endor
      • Serai 1

        You know, every one of KC&SB’s songs has exactly the same time signature and structure. You can play them all at the same time and they won’t clash. I had a handful of friends in high school that used to sing together at lunch on the quad. We did that with KC’s songs – sing them all at once. It actually worked.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3svW8PM_jc

        • The Witch of Endor

          That is amazingly cool. I’m always in awe of people who see the nuts and bolts of a song and then use it in the best ways possible.

          • Serai 1

            I had fun with those girls. My best friend got me in with them, and she had real natural talent. (She could pick up an instrument and be playing it inside of twenty minutes, no matter what it was. I saw her pull that shit.) Another thing we did that was really fun was sing War’s Low Rider a capella, with each of us taking one of the instruments. That bass is not easy to sustain over four minutes, lemme tell you!

          • The Witch of Endor

            Dayum! Y’all are some talented people! Do you still sing or get together with people to sing?

          • Serai 1

            It’s been years since I sang. I’d like to again, but getting together with people is difficult because most people work, and I’m on the bus and don’t travel at night.

          • The Witch of Endor

            That’s too bad. :(

  • boyblue122
    • Jennifer R

      Remember today is National Gaslighting Day.

      • boyblue122

        oh i know…i liked the headline

      • snark-lurker

        you said National Gaslighting day was yesterday!

    • Vecchioivan

      Cruel and unusual nourishment.

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        I know right, you should at least use A1 Sauce, Grandma will taste better.

    • Chadwells
    • Wait. What?

    • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

      Maybe he’s thinking of Alferd Packer, who was reputed to have eaten 5 of the 7 Democrats in Hinsdale County: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alferd_Packer

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        Here’s a quote from the judge at his trial: According to a local newspaper, the presiding judge, M. B. Gerry, said:

        “ Stand up yah voracious man-eatin’ sonofabitch and receive yir sintince. When yah came to Hinsdale County, there was siven Dimmycrats. But you, yah et five of ’em, goddam yah. I sintince yah t’ be hanged by th’ neck ontil yer dead, dead, dead, as a warnin’ ag’in reducin’ th’ Dimmycratic populayshun of this county. Packer, you Republican cannibal, I would sintince ya ta hell but the statutes forbid it.

      • Jennifer R

        I will never not think of Cannibal, The Musical whenever I hear that name.

    • WeaselPoo

      Perhaps they should first get an answer to Is Cannibalism Not A Nice Thing To Do? ( Remembering that John Yoo thought crushing a child’s testicles with a pair of pliers was a reasonable information gathering technique)

    • OrG

      Well,IS IT?

  • Rachel Book Harlot
  • Anna Rompage

    I wonder, if one of this person’s children was repeatedly mosleted by their youth program leader, what sort of punishment & settlement do you think they’d be asking for?

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      This. They only care about things when it affects them personally.

      • texcynical

        I believe that’s the technical definition of “Republican”

    • snark-lurker

      they were prolly already molesting their own kids, neighbors’s kids etc

  • Jennifer R
    • Biff52

      I’ve ridden for 50 years on the street, a bit longer off-road. I approve of this sentence.

    • Jamoche

      I’d been wondering what had ever happened with that.

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      Assholes like that driver & the ppl supporting him are the reason I pushed like hell for my partner to sell his bike. How can some folks not grasp (or care) that they are controlling a 2-ton hunk of fast-moving metal & that humans are essentially fragile bags of tapioca?

      • Jennifer R

        Just World Fallacy mostly. With some Pratchian evil mixed in.

        • Prof. T. Green Bastard

          “The Law of Looney Tunes says they will bounce, kick up a lot of dust & come to rest having learned their lesson. I am also a selfish, idiot Fuckface.”

    • yyyaz

      Like I tell yyyaz, Jr., every day, they are all out to kill you, intentionally or not.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      May 15 years give him sufficient time to rot… and it probably will since his 69 already.

    • Wow. Yes, this person needs to be taken off of the roads for all time.

      Also, the not-quite dead English teacher in me feels the need to point out that “atrabilious” and “bilious” do not mean the same thing and it is usually a good idea to double-check your obscure 50 cent words before you publish them on the interwebs. Thus endeth my unasked for PSA.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        However, it’s always a good idea to make sure you’re using the RIGHT expensive words in a vain attempt to impress the numbnuts out there.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        I think I’ve only come across it once and I forget where. W. S. Gilbert? Flanders and Swann?

        Ghaaa! Now this is going to bug me for days or even weeks. Damn you, the English language!!!!11!!!!11111, 1,11!!!1

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Guess he couldn’t claim “affluenza”, so no probation for him.

  • Chadwells
    • Mr. Fusion

      Maybe if we can get all the dolphins to swish their tails towards Mar-a -Lago, …

    • Little Doll

      Has he tried to ‘build a wall’ in the ocean to keep the water out, like he tried to do in Ireland (and failed)?

  • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

    OT Irony – It stopped snowing about 10 minutes after I got back. XD

    • But, of course.

    • Mr. Fusion

      My snow shovels are still outside the doors. I know if I put them away, it’ll snow the next day.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        Best wait until … say … August?

        • Mr. Fusion

          Yes, late August. Ya jes neva know.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

        Ain’t that the truth. Used to be if we washed the car, it would rain.

      • Eileen Besse

        And you are right. Signed, EX-Masshole.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    Speaking of falafel -wielding sexual preverts An investigation by the New York Times released on Saturday reveals that at least five women have taken a total of $13 million in settlements after accusing top Fox News host Bill O’Reilly of sexual harassment.

    phone calls in which it sounded like Mr. O’Reilly was masturbating,

    Yes, I should feel bad for that.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fox-sexual-harassment-o-reilly-ailes

    • yyyaz

      The prime example of why we are so fucked as a nation: O’Lielly still has the No. 1 cable news show. So many morans, so little hope.

      • Hutch

        How I feel a lot these days – muttering Sweet Jesus I Hate Bill O’Reilly.

        https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/848254150722940928

        • Serai 1

          *sigh* I miss the Onion. These squibs and pic memes are not the publication I once admired so much.

      • Mr. Fusion

        O’Lielly still has the No. 1 cable news show.

        I thought that was SpongeBob Squarepants that has the highest cable news rating.

        • Swampgas_Man

          I thought it was WWE wrasslin’.

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      Eeeeeeeeeeeewww!! Give them more! Ear transplants are expensive, I’ll bet. If it had been me, I’d have Van Gogh’d my ears clean off @ that shit.

    • Jennifer R

      From the comments:
      “The former chief financial officer of Fox News Channel, Mark Kranz, is said to have been offered immunity from prosecution by U.S. government attorneys looking into payments by the network and its parent, 21st Century Fox, to women who claimed to be harassed by Roger Ailes, the cable-news outlet’s former chief and leader, according to a report in The Financial Times.”

    • Bitter Scribe

      At what point will the money calculus tip against him? “OK, he’s made us way more than $13 million, but once it reaches $XX million we’ll cut his wrinkled ass loose”?

    • SeekingResistanceBarbie

      Super-duper Christian RWNJs shrug this off and still think they have some sort of moral superiority over the rest of us.

      • OrG

        They won’t even shrug it off. Just label it “fake news” and carry on.

    • TJ Barke

      The Aristocrats!

      • yyyaz

        The punch line every day now.

  • Bitter Scribe

    Running out of sympathy…

    Something tells me that his sympathy tank was never all that deep to start with.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      I think he means his willingness to condescend to us peons.

      • snark-lurker

        yabut we are the bestest peons!

  • ~ ☆ míkhαílα ☆ ~ 【忠実反抗】

    “Running out of sympathy for 35 yr old, so-called victims with 7 digit net worth[…]

    Fuck you too, Graham Spanier!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b1d39ebcb94cecec29f74958c191d1c2e6e4f7ab82d880ef1c7c2dc90349bde6.png

    • Jennifer R

      I am out of sympathy for rich white folks.

      • ~ ☆ míkhαílα ☆ ~ 【忠実反抗】

        I never had much sympathy for them in the first place.

        (That being said, fuck Graham Spanier for being a douchecanoe)

        • Jennifer R

          People can’t help the situations they are born into, but 70 years is long enough to get one’s shit together.

  • Jgb979

    The NCAA needed to burn that place down and salt the earth.

    Even today “never mind about the child rape” we need to put the statue back up of a child rape enabler!

    Death was too easy an exit for Joepa

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Running out of sympathy for 35 yr old, so-called victims with 7 digit net worth

    No words, just a jpeg:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c715d60367960bbe95a2a88b06358843ebaa01f74b95b07bb8a06b37d80f1a19.png

    • thixotropic jerk

      That tree really gave!

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    Patriarchy wouldn’t have lasted this long without men circling the wagons to protect their own. It isn’t to protect the man they see being “victimized”. They don’t care about him. They care about protecting their own future ability to do anything they want to those they view as lesser beings and never face consequences.

    • snark-lurker

      should i go to my room now? boo hoo boo (: – ((

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        Immediately!!

        • snark-lurker

          i im sowwry…

          *sniff sniff goes away, closes door…*
          **fap fap fap fap fap**

          • Shanzgood

            Dude. No.

          • snark-lurker

            are you telling me to… now wait just minute here, do you mean to say you don’t fap? with toys & lube? ever? i suppose you have never even warmed up watching…what’s it called? oh yeah: EROTICA?!

          • Shanzgood

            No. Subject matter. Forget it

    • Shanzgood

      It needs enough women buying into it as well. They infuriate me.

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        It’s good strategy to train your victims to dislike themselves and see themselves as lesser from birth so they assist with their own dehumanization.

        • Shanzgood

          Not just themselves, but those who are (or might be) like them. I was thinking specifically of cultures that practice FGM where it’s the elder wonen who perform the “ceremonies” on the younger ones but it’s the same sort mentality we have here in the US. Female legislators vote to take away the reproductive rights of their (usually younger) constituents because it keeps them in power.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Ayup. This is the thing.

    • yyyaz

      Another reason why good cops are essential to a functioning society. Training, not military toys to abuse the public with, is the key element that gets overlooked at budget proposal time.

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      nailed it

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
    • yyyaz

      Someone, somewhere in this screaming cloud of treachery has to be thinking that confession is good for the soul. How do we spread that message to them?

      • boyblue123

        they have souls?

    • Villago Delenda Est

      “Spectrum Health”? Don’t they mean “Speculum Health”?

      • thixotropic jerk

        It would be irresponsible not to speculumate…

  • Serai 1
  • Celtic_Gnome

    “I’m an absolutely inhuman dirtbag and proud of it.”

    That’s basically what he said, right?

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      Almost word for word.

    • Mr. Fusion

      That’s what I got out of it.

    • BadKitty904

      Yup. Pretty much.

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    But can we just break this down to a simple explanation? Having a dick up your ass while being a kid results in 7 digits net worth, explaining the GOP, Catholic church and the reason why money just might be the root of all evil.

    Occam’s razor put in effect on the world.

    • BadKitty904
    • Bitter Scribe

      Except that this applies to maybe .001% of the kids who have had dicks up their asses.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        Not if you follow this particular evil type of people’s way of thinking. Like a fucking cult.

        • Bitter Scribe

          Except the vast majority of their victims don’t tell anyone what was done to them. That’s been getting better these days but there’s still WAY too much silence.

  • YoBunnyBunny

    Tangential: So, I think I saw it this morning on the CBS morning news that the number of adult binge drinkers in US America has gone up… Hmmm… With crums like this peopling the world, I can see why.

    (I think this was for adults over the age of 60 though)

    • Mr. Fusion

      HEY !!! I’m over 60.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Define “binge”, he said defensively.

      • Jennifer R

        https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/Newsletter/winter2004/Newsletter_Number3.pdf

        “A pattern of drinking that raises the drinker’s BAC to .08 or higher.”

        So 4-5 drinks per 2 hours or so.

        • Shanzgood

          Holy hell.

          • BadKitty904

            Honestly. I couldn’t drink 4-5 (hard liquor) drinks in a day.

          • OrG

            With more practice you could.

          • BadKitty904

            I’m 5’5″ and weigh about 128 lbs. I think it’s more a matter of “mass” than “practice”.

          • OrG

            Trust me. Also I am NOT advocating that you do.

          • thixotropic jerk

            Why drink when you can “eat” i.e.: jello shots! Problem solved!

          • Shanzgood

            That, yeah. I’m 5’7″ 130lbs and got totally messed up with a GF the other week when we went out and I had 2 mixed drinks.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            One good Margarita and I’m plowed.

          • BadKitty904

            <– two glasses of red wine, per day, max. If that.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            Smart Kitty. I would like a bottle of Merlot, but I’m going to wait til May and see if I still want it.

          • BadKitty904

            Aw, I learned in HS I have no head for alcohol at all whatsoever.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            LOL – you’d think at my size I could handle it, but Ima classic “Cheap Date”, so I’m very careful.

          • BadKitty904

            Good. “Careful” is the key word.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            Yes. I mean, if I’m with trusted friends I’ll get a really good Margarita with dinner and get looped, but no one minds and they know I’m not driving.

          • John Resistant Tovarich Smith

            It only takes me one drink to get loaded; usually the 10th.

          • Royal Ugly Dude

            Hey! I thought there were going to be pics?

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            I’m 5’10” and weigh—more than you. XD But I have to be careful. My birthday 2016 I had 2 Shock Top beers and a cheese pizza and was still just a bit tipsy walking home.

            I hardly ever drink anymore, and since I’m losing weight I’ll probably just not.

          • Jennifer R

            Weed is just so much better than booze, and it is zero calorie.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            My last GF used it with a water pipe. I’d get giggly when she and her roommate were smoking. No ill effects later.

          • Jennifer R

            Water pipes (was it a bubbler or a full on bong?) are nice. I love my vaporiser though. None of those stupid combusted carbons.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            It was a bubbler. The stuff she bought didn’t even smell too bad.

          • Shanzgood

            I can do a bottle of wine if I really put my foot down but I’m trying to back off of that.

          • Jennifer R

            I am Six foot Three, and when I was as little as 200 (I was 342 once remember) I could still drink a 750ml of 100 proof per day as most of my caloric input. It’s mostly a matter of pacing in the morning (a screwdriver 50% vodka 50% OJ for example) before switching to right from the bottle.

          • Shanzgood

            I can drink a bottle of red wine if I pace myself and have food. Otherwise, bad idea.

          • Jennifer R

            Course, it all depends on what I am trying to drown that day too.

        • Lance Thrustwell

          Well, if you’re going to be all literal about it, fine.

        • Eileen Besse

          What if you’re Irish, like me? With (HAHAHAHAHAHAH) “light” beer?

          • Jennifer R

            Scots-Irish with a bit of German; In other words I am a walking bar fight.

          • Eileen Besse

            Well, then, pleased to meet you!!!!!

    • Jennifer R

      Women are catching up to men fast.

      • YoBunnyBunny

        I know…

        • Mr. Fusion

          It’s them new fangled high heel running shoes they’re wearing.

    • OrdinaryJoe

      Isn’t that why God invented Uber?

    • The Wanderer

      (holds up a paper coffee cup of cheap-ass Merlot in salute)

    • Zyxomma

      I’m over 60, and drink very little alcohol. It’s been 10 months since my last toke, and I really miss it (going through the election and its aftermath has not been fun), but I’m still job hunting. Can’t screw up the tox screen if I get that far.

  • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba
  • Mr. Fusion

    Is this dude suggesting that having a dick up your ass is just training to be a Wall Street financier?

    • BadKitty904

      Or a Republican pol, if said dick is corporate or Russian?

      • Mr. Fusion

        Russian as in a quick cummer?

        • Villago Delenda Est

          “Behold, I come quickly”

          • John Resistant Tovarich Smith

            No, I’m just breathing hard.

          • The Wanderer

            I try not to, but these new bicycle seats . . .

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    HA!
    Far-right demonstration falls flat as only 300 turn up to London march (Guardian UK)
    Two groups took part in event castigated as a lame attempt to whip up Islamophobia following Westminster attack

  • BadKitty904

    So, let me get this right, Graham – you’re publicly advocating the sexual molestation of children?

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Don’t really need a red flag when there’s a grown man’s penis on display in the boys’ locker room.

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    Now this has come out, and Spanier will face some harassment. Will he find sympathy for himself as a so-called victim? You bet your ass he will.

    • BadKitty904

      Certainly among child-molesters.

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        Yes, that, but he will feel sorry for himself. What he simply can’t muster for raped children will flow out like lava for his own sorry self.

        • BadKitty904

          Oh, certainly. Being self-entitled and amoral is a requirement for these soulless monsters, like voting Republican.

  • HazooToo

    Guys, I love this. It’s everything I could never figure out how to say, re: Bernies. https://twitter.com/GothamGirlBlue/status/848187288895070208

    • Villago Delenda Est

      She’s got several new followers!

      • HazooToo

        The number keeps going up. Turns out, people like it when you fucking make sense!

    • WeaselPoo

      Read… very good, also interesting from Bernie’s represented in the thread.

      • HazooToo

        I’m searching for them, now, in the thread replies. I think one of them is just a troll pretending to be a Bernie supporter, because he’s saying outright stupid stuff. Like RoastedSpags-stupid.

    • Persistent Demme

      Wanna pay attention, and help the party, but…
      I. Am. So. Damn. Tired.

      Btw, Bernie is not a Dem anymore, (if that matters to you).

      • miss_grundy

        Bernie was never a Dem. He has always been an Independent. He will side with Dems on issues of common interest.

        • Persistent Demme

          Wasn’t he a “dem” during the election?

        • Querolous

          He will side with Dems on issues of commonin his interest. FIFY

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        Okay, sarge: don’t burn yourself out – this is a long fight, and we will win. Take some time(and I mean every day) to look around and remember what we’re fighting for. Spend a little time picking your best battles…….practice your Grrrrr!….and we are all with you!….

        • Persistent Demme

          Words to live by!
          Thanks!

      • HazooToo

        I know, he’s an Independent again, but he never told his supporters.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance
  • Nounverb911
  • BadKitty904

    Penn State must really appreciate its execs continuing to publicly support the sexual molestation of children. That should sure boost their enrollments and endowments.

    • OrG

      Sportsball teams win,this will not matter.

      • BadKitty904

        I wish that was a joke.

  • Nounverb911
  • BadKitty904

    OT: And the Republican Congress continues to do nothing about the most corrupt Administration in American history – nice “swamp draining,” guys…

    Ivanka Trump Keeping Stake in D.C. Hotel Despite White House Role, Filings Show
    Financial entanglements of the new senior White House aide heightens conflicts of interest concerns.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ivanka-trump-dc-hotel_us_58df27f6e4b0c777f787ab55?0dxqo61622djx20529&amp;

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      I hope she and Jared are renting in DC. They won’t be there long enough to flip the house for a profit. So sad.

      • BadKitty904

        I’d be willing to have some of my tax-dollars spent on lodging both of them, for a number of years, at one of our fine federal penitentiaries.

        • Toomush_Inferesistance

          I’d prefer the entire cost be borne by them and their crony friends…

          • BadKitty904

            I’d prefer that the maximum penalty for treason be carried out, if only as a warning to the rest of the GOP, but hey, little steps…

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      And another Turkey has been found to be on the gravy train.
      A financial disclosure filed by former Trump administration national security adviser Michael Flynn shows he earned nearly $1.3 million for speeches to Russian companies and lobbying for a Turkish firm, as well as work for other entities.

      http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/flynn-russia-trump-turkey

      • miss_grundy

        But let’s yell at Hillz for taking money for giving a speech to Goldman Sachs on whatever she talked about as an ex-SoS.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          That, and Benghazi!!!! and emails!

          • YoBunnyBunny

            THe CLINTON FOUNDATION also too!!!!!!111!!

    • The Wanderer

      Hmm! So Rudy’s involved in Turkey. That explains why his name’s not been coming in connection to the Russians . . . yet.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      OK, so the small man on a balcony is auditioning for a gas station in Milan.

  • thixotropic jerk

    “Those greedy 35 year old molestation survivors! How dare they continue to receive sympathy when the real victims were obvs Sandusky and my pal Spanier! It’s just not fair!”

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    OT:

    1. Who said anything about fear? What we should fear is not dealing with the problem Islamic terrorism poses.

    2. The rest of your life might be short (I hope not), but what about your children and their children? Do you really want to see this problem (which will be much larger) left to them?

    3. These people do not just “wish ill” on “any other group of people”, they are dedicated to either killing everyone who disagrees with them, or depriving them of their freedom and prosperity by forcing them to subject themselves to their rules and laws.

    4. BTW – they violate many of the “liberal” causes. They are anti-women, anti-gay and anti-freedom. They enslave women and execute gays, Christians and everyone else who doesn’t agree with them.

    5. Totalitarianism always begins with a “minority” of the population and ends up affecting all of it. You may want to reflect on Nazism, Stalinism, the current situation in Cuba and Venezuela and all of the countless other examples from history in which a very small percentage of the population ended up destroying the lives of a great many others.

    6. I’m not sure who said that “to ignore the lessons of history destines you to repeat it”, or something close to that, but if you do any research on the attempts over many centuries of Islamic Jihad to subjugate the rest of the population, you can better understand the threat they pose to civilization as we know it. The difference this time is that they have gotten a lot smarter about how to accomplish their goals by infiltrating our population with their acolytes and multiplying at a far greater rate than the indigenous population. If you don’t think that’s true, please go back and read the words of KSM.

    Or, you can stick your head in the sand and pretend that everything will be OK. There were plenty of people in this country who did that prior to WW II. I’m sure Dad can tell you about them. The enemy got momentum while those who were hoping the problem would go away were wishing and waiting, resulting in the unnecessary loss of tens of millions of innocent lives.

    It should be very clear that the Islamic Fundamentalist movement is not going away. It’s growing. Your view may make you feel better about ignoring it, but it isn’t going to help the next generations who will suffer from not aggressively addressing the problem now.

    An example of how one person thinks …. I couldn’t even respond to these. I simply stated I was a bit more worried about the treasonous, corrupt administration in the US and that I’m a bit more worried about clean air and water for my children.

    • Jennifer R

      “If we hadn’t spent 70 years stealing from them and murdering them they might not hate us as much.”

      • Sheepshagger

        “Why on earth do these subhuman sand people hate us so? An utter mystery. ”

        • Scrofula

          Or really, DO these people hate us? Or do their governments wage a kind of war against us using the only means, broke young guys with bombs?

    • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

      Wow! That’s just weirdly short-sighted of this person. If we destroy the world in the name of commerce, then the last thing we have to worry about are jihadist tribes. Can’t save the world from the scary brown people if we kill it first.

      • Jennifer R

        He would burn the village to save the village.

        • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

          Absolute stupidity. It burns the mind.

          • Jennifer R

            Some days it is really goddamn hard to not remember that Justice is just Group Sanctioned Revenge.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            The truly scary part is that the person is family and is not stupid by any measure. He is successful and “semi-retired”. I can’t muster any concern here. Let’s Wonketmath it:

            If 1% of muslims want to kill everyone, that’s 15 million.
            If 1% of the US muslims want to kill everyone, that’s 260,000.

            Does anyone really believe there are 260,000 muslims in the US who want to kill everyone? I can’t see it …. maybe there are?

            (1.5 bln muslims worldwide, 2.6 mln in the US)

          • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

            Well, I know five Muslims, three born Muslim and two converted, one in the late sixties. They’re not violent in the least. The only thing different about them is that they don’t drink booze.

            Now far right Xtians around here ARE downright scary and many are violent. Google Eric Robert Rudolph or The Church of Israel. These are the dangerous ones.

          • Scrofula

            Yeah, Persians at least are pretty big on family values, modesty, and hospitality. You’d think they’d be allies.

          • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

            He didn’t come off as stupid, which was perhaps the most chilling thing. The logical component was just lacking. For a string of statements i can’t possibly agree with, it was still very well written.

          • Scrofula

            Many of the Muslims here wish you would leave your backpacks outside, and don’t mess up the Slurpee machine.
            (Yes, I know many kwik-e-mart owners are Sikh.)

      • Scrofula

        I have a feeling the author might be itching for an end times holy war, so Jesus returns and all that.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          This one is a lapsed Catholic, and non-practising anything as far as I know.

          • Scrofula

            Yeah, but he likes the IDEA of it, secretly, even if he says that Revelation-warping stuff isn’t Catholic.
            Shit, I wouldn’t mind a holy war, it’d mean good gubmit job openings.

    • Sheepshagger

      You seem to have found the elusive literate right winger. They are rare in the wild, and if startled they revert quickly to spitting venemous invective while they retreat. Note the shameless lack of intellectual consistency, and the constant appeals to fear and reptile brain tribalism, camouflaged as Worldly cosmopolitianism.

      • Scrofula

        It’s hard to logic away deep seated implanted fear.
        Our media has been smothering us with Islamophobia since the Iran revolution.
        Not that that’s an excuse for being an idiot.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      So, he’s projecting away from the trump administration and its Nazis (while referring to them) and to his fears of Muslims, whose expansion into Spain shortly after the turn of the first millenium was stopped by (of all things) capitalism. Turns out they didn’t believe in “interest”, which was why they needed the Jews and others who could…..This whole idea of the world takeover by Muslims stems from its early expansion through Africa and up the western edge of Europe. Not likely to ever happen again. If he needs (NEEDS!) to be afraid, he should focus on the idea of Russia and China teaming up to become our overlords. That’ll tighten his undies….

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

      I’ve gotten so weary of this type of person and their stupid, hateful opinions that I simply refuse to engage with any of them on any subject whatsoever.

      I’m tired enough as it is without expending energy debating the braindead.

      • Sheepshagger

        I deal on the regular with a South African lawyer who found that he must come to my fine country due to a childhood condition that necessitated socialist healthcare and the out of control violence in his home. All to the good, we are civilised. His frequent virulent anti immigration rants do put me back on my heels a little.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

          Geez Louise. My Mom’s side of the fam immigrated from Germany after the Great War – Granma & Grandpa met on the ship! – so Ima fan of immigration, personally.

        • Scrofula

          Wait, so dude is the embodiment of immigrating for gubmit benefits, and he’s anti-immigrant?
          OT I think Ghandi started as a South African lawyer.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        I shut the conversation down with a short response:

        Currently, I am more concerned with having clean air and water for them to breathe, and a treasonous corrupt administration currently running the country.

        Thanks for your comments, and I did read them all. Please save them for someone who might be convinced: I am not that person.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

          Nicely done, good for you. :) I hope no one here thinks I would criticize them if they *want* to debate these types, it’s only that I’ve learned that it’s a complete waste of my time.

          Not to be completely negative, I’m trying small things like being friendly, helping elderly folks with small things, holding doors, like that.

          • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

            Nah! I used to try to debate these types too but learned quickly how pointless it is. They’re very entrenched in their own beliefs, as I am in mine, and no amount of logic will change their perceptions. They’ll just feel threatened and take any criticisms personally. People have to arrive at these things on their own and be open to accepting that there’s a flaw in how they think and feel. If they’re not there yet, I just leave them alone and remain polite to them in person.

    • Scrofula

      For someone so worried about it, you’d think he’d at least take a glance at their ideologies. Like, Know Thy Enemies, at least. Scrof Tzu would add don’t reduce them to animals. FFS the west was drawing all the borders and propping up tyrants, we’re to blame for Iran turning into a theocracy.

    • WeaselPoo

      Shorter version:
      1: A non-white, non-western religion is scary, and I will tell you why should be scared–which is spelled differently from f”ear”.
      2: Think of the children and their future! You need to tell them about their scary future so they can be scared too! And don’t forget to ignore any possibility that your children and grandchildren may grow up with their own different experiences, knowledge and capacities for rational thought.
      3. Like ‘Christians’!
      4. Like ‘Christians’!
      5 Totalitarianism always begins with someone identifying an existential threat appeals to fear and assurances that only they know how to defeat it.
      6. They are going to fuck their way to overwhelming numbers and victory and it will be YOUR FAULT if we don’t stop them fucking, by whatever means necessary.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        You pretty much nailed it …. my thoughts exactly. I just wasn’t in the mood to waste a bunch of time. I would have to justify my thoughts as correct, rather than debate the actual topic.

        • WeaselPoo

          I know. It’s never a simple as I just laid out, even if you think of it and ‘have the time’, which you never do because these people use a bunch of random premises given ‘coherence’ by a basic emotion:

          God is good, I believe in God, therefore I must be good and that makes me feel good and anyone unlike me is bad, unless I can make them be like me which makes me and god feel good, but if I can’t get people to get God, then God will feel bad and make me feel bad, but I won;t feel bad if instead of ignoring people unlike me I make the effort to destroy them, God will feel good again and reward me, which makes me feel good.

          basically you have to get them to understand what an argument actually is, and what logic it is, and how to test an argument. Ain’t nobody got time for that!

          People change their minds when they have an economic interest—by economic I don’t mean just financial, but emotional. Example 1: It took WIlberforce 30 years to persuade the UK to get out of the slave trade–emotional campaigning ultimately overwhelmed economic interest. Then the UK actually policed slave trading as an outlaw activity. The US ‘bred’ slaves, obviating the impact of the British anti-slave trade policy. Slavery continued in the US but emotional appeals chipped away at its acceptability. The US Civil War was fought over both slavery, AND federal political interest, but at the same time the slave dependent cotton trade was declining, so a confluence of emotional and economic ( political included) interests resulted in the war and its conclusion which eliminated US slavery (but of course was not definitive).

          Note how many GOPERS have a change of heart when THEY are suddenly adversely affected by a policy THEY created, prevents them receiving help for their problems, when previously as a matter of ‘principle’ they’ve actively denied the help they now need or finally understand, to others.

  • BadKitty904

    OT: It’s a start. Hit ‘em where it hurts ‘em the most – in their wallets…

    Bill O’Reilly Thrives at Fox News, Even as Harassment Settlements Add Up
    About $13 million has been paid out over the years to address complaints from women about Mr. O’Reilly’s behavior. He denies the claims have merit.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/01/business/media/bill-oreilly-sexual-harassment-fox-news.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1

  • Oblios_Cap

    So… I’m guessing this wasn’t some lame April Fool’s joke on Lord Lord’s part.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      “April Fool’s joke? Is that something that poor people do? Why do they do it in April? But if you must entertain yourselves somehow, carry on…”

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    OT nice time:
    Rally in support of ‘ugly’ yellow Cotswolds car

    Yellow car owners have rallied in support of a vehicle blamed for ruining tourists’ photographs in a picturesque Cotswold village.
    A convoy of 100 cars has driven through Bibury in an act of solidarity towards Vauxhall Corsa owner Peter Maddox, 84.

    • The Wanderer

      We here at the Directorate of Dirty Tricks applaud every Englishman’s right to be endearingly eccentric and to take the piss out of tourists whenever possible.

    • Old Man Yells at Cloud

      Imagine the gall of some people thinking that simply living their life is more important than tourists wanting to take a photograph.

      • Prof. T. Green Bastard

        37,000 digital photos they will never look @ after the 1st run-thru & couldn’t get their friends n family interested in if they paid them.

        • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

          Ain’t that the truth? Too many people look at the world through the screen on their phone. I’ve seen them on the beach here.

          “Why don’t you put the phone down and look at the damned ocean?”

          • Prof. T. Green Bastard

            Much more important to have proof that they were there. Lots of proof.

          • YoBunnyBunny

            If something is really enjoyable and I want to share it with somebody–I tell them to go see it themselves. Granted, pics are nice for people who will never be able to see it in living color for one reason or another.

        • YoBunnyBunny

          Exactly. I don’t think I can recall a time me and my family ever sat around to look at digital photos. But I remember doing that with the old school photo album. Pictures are so instantaneous they’re practically ephemeral now. You change phones/mobile devices and you promptly forget because you can always take more, right.

          • Prof. T. Green Bastard

            We’ve gone from having photography be so new & rare that portraits of dead loved ones were common b/c that might be the only time they ever had their picture taken, to ppl taking selfies w dead folks b/c they feel the need to document every second of their existence, good taste be damned.

            Humans are weird.

    • HazooToo

      That’s where my girl lives! I love it!

  • miss_grundy

    Alfred Lord is just as much of a sociopath and as tone-deaf as the 70 year old in the White House. What is it about the very wealthy that they have no understanding of other people’s pain? And back in the 90s, there was an incident regarding Sandusky and children that was investigated but never followed up. And when he retired from the university, he was given emeritus status, which for him meant a key to the football complex and an office. This allowed him to bring children on to the campus.

    • Scrofula

      It kind of makes you think that the pursuit of wealth itself is sociopathic.

      • jowgajen

        It depends. You can be Bill Gates and see money as a tool towards a greater good. You can be Rockefeller and see money as a means to securing a brighter future. Or you can see money as the score in life. The score keepers are the sociopaths.

        • Scrofula

          Incidental wealth isn’t a problem.
          But think to when you were a kid.
          Some kids think about what they want to DO. Some kids want to GET RICH. They join frats and become stock brokers and fuck us all over.

  • Old Man Yells at Cloud

    “… one would think that someone who is 70 or 71 years old would know by now to not say those kinds of things out loud” Lil’Donnie has cause a great deal of confusion amongst the limited thinking set. They see Lil’Donnie get away with saying ” those kinds of things out loud” and think they can too.

    • Scrofula

      It’d be nice if the president acted in a way that wouldn’t get him called to HR and fired in his first week.

  • The Wanderer
  • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

    OT:

    It’s been expressed by a few here before how surprising it is that so many of these 45ers were willing to sell our country out for so little bread. However, if you actually think about it, the smaller sums of money add up and don’t raise as many red flags as one lump payment would. If you consider the sum Flynn made per year from his activities and consider that it was all just EXTRA money and possibly not the ONLY monies he received, it becomes far less believable. You also have to consider that it’s not so much the pay as it is the gravy. What other benefits were these people reaping in exchange for their services?

    We only know about some of the money and we may never know about the other non-disclosed assets. Just something to keep in mind when trying to wrap ones brain around this.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea

    OT Bernie continues to be oh so helpful.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/326820-sanders-defends-trump-voters-i-dont-think-theyre-racists

    23.5K

    Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (I) on Friday defended voters of President Trump, saying that the election was Democrats’ to lose and that the party needs to better represent the working-class voters who supported Trump and other GOP lawmakers

    “Some people think that the people who voted for Trump are racists and sexists and homophobes and deplorable folks. I don’t agree, because I’ve been there. Let me tell you something else some of you might not agree with, it wasn’t that Donald Trump won the election, it was that the Democratic Party lost the election,” Sanders said while speaking at an Our Revolution rally in Boston with fellow Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).

    Sanders went on to say that a “fundamental restructuring of the Democratic party” was needed to win future elections and that problems with party’s current setup is why many were quick to support Trump in the election, not because of some of the rhetoric on the campaign trail.

    “We need a Democratic Party that is not a party of the liberal elite but of the working class of this country, we need a party that is a grassroots party, where candidates are talking to working people not spending their time raising money for the wealthy and the powerful,” Sanders said. “And when we do that, when we transform the Democratic Party, we transform America.”

    • BadKitty904

      What we don’t need, Bernie, is another fucking Ralph Nader.

      • Shanzgood

        Too late.

        • BadKitty904

          Is Saunders’ need for an appearance of relevance and headline-grabbing that desperate?

          • Shanzgood

            I dunno. After the implications that the Rooskies were behind riling up the Bernie bros, I’m not sure.

          • BadKitty904

            So, Bernie – wanna address that issue, instead of blowing the Trumpanzees?

          • BadKitty904

            It’s very obvious that Russia views Hilary and the Dems as a threat and the Republicans as allies. It’s therefore in Russia’s best interests to keep the Dems divided, fueling the BernieBros, the Steiners, et al..

    • The Wanderer

      What’s his stance on the testimony yesterday about 1,000 or so hackers and trolls being used by Russia to put forward the Sanders agenda and talk shit about Hillary, hm? Inquiring minds want to know!

      • jowgajen

        Can we just leave Hillary the fuck alone now? I know she’s everyone’s favorite punching bag, but goddam she’s retired now.

        • The Wanderer

          I am leaving Hillary the fuck alone. I’m asking a rhetorical question of Sanders.

          • jowgajen

            I’m not asking you, sorry. That one is for Bernie.

    • Anna Rompage

      Honestly, I would have to agree to some degree with Bernie…

      We’re not doing a very good job at getting real jobs & financial resources to the people in the middle of the country that have seen their economies contract over the last 30 years.

      The only reason why the GOP is so popular with these folks is not what they deliver, but their message that the reason why these folks are suffering is because of taxes, the gays, and immigrants.

      Populist lingo is easy to sell to the folks that are being left behind.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        But Bernie’s populist lingo makes the “liberal elites” and the Democratic party the enemy. How in the world does that help elect Democrats?

        • jowgajen

          Bernie does not care about democrats. He just uses them for his own ends, and they let him .

          • kareemachan

            I have to agree with this. He is (to my mind) all about “see, I’m saying/voting for/doing this cuz it makes me look so COOL with my bro’s….

        • Ms.MLG on Maui

          How does it help anyone to pretend we don’t have a huge bigotry problem in this nation?

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            Some people are going to continue to chase after that romantic vision of the white working class in middle America for reasons.

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            Well, that’s a relief. I was worried there weren’t enough people looking out for the white men!

        • While not wealthy, and certainly not from a wealthy family, I graduated from an Ivy-League school, have an advanced degree, and am a liberal. None of that makes me anyone’s enemy. He really needs to take a different path here. Stereotyping is always wrong.

        • “Donald Trump is bad, but I offer literally no other viable alternative for your votes, because the Democratic party is awful and bad!”

          Thank you so much for your support, Bernie. Every time he starts with this shit, I can’t help but mentally add what he isn’t actually saying, but only heavily implying: “Only I can fix it.”

          • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

            “Only I can fix it, but I won’t offer details into how!” was 45’s rhetoric. Is it becoming clear that Bernie is no better than 45?

          • That’s why I didn’t vote for Bernie. He sounded just like Trump to me. Now, I don’t think he still sounds just like Trump, because as President, Trump has taken his “Look at me!” shtick to a completely new level. But, the rhetoric still sounds very similar to me.

      • miss_grundy

        What have the people who live in the flyover states done for themselves? There are too many people with only a H.S. diploma who saw that the world was changing and chose not to do anything to help themselves. As they lost manufacturing jobs, they didn’t go back to school or learn a trade that would help them earn a living. Heck, you have miners in Virginia and West Virginia, who want to decide our environmental policy because they want mining jobs that aren’t coming back. They had the opportunity to be trained in green energy jobs and threw it away. Mining companies are not going to leave coal mines open if they aren’t profitable. And the man that they voted for isn’t going to be providing any job reeducation any time soon.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      You know Bernie, if you would finally put or shut up and join the Democratic Party rather than hectoring us from the outfield bleachers, we would probably welcome you. You could make a positive impact.

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      We need a democratic party that is not the party of the liberal elite, but a party I, Bernie Sanders, am in charge of! Anything else is corrupt and tainted!

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        If Tom Perez isn’t pure enough just because he wasn’t Bernie’s pick, then yeah. The writing is on the wall.

    • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

      No one needs to be lectured by a fucking Democrat of convenience who behaved like a petulant little child during the primaries, then refused to face reality by conceding to Clinton when it may have made a difference, which allowed his rabid supporters to make asses of themselves at the convention (remember the Bean eating challenge? Fart for Bernie!), and then took his fucking ball and went home when all was said and done, instead of trying to do the difficult work of rebuilding and improving the party. Bernie would rather be a contrarian who proposes idealistic, pie in the sky initiatives that have no realistic chance of being passed into law then someone who is willing to face the reality that change is going to be slow and incremental. He’s just a bomb thrower, ultimately. And an increasingly annoying one.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      “We need a Democratic Party that is not a party of the liberal elite but of the working class of this country“.

      Why am I getting the sense that he means “WHITE working class”??? I don’t see too many Black or Hispanic/Latino working class people breaking for the GOP. And they (we) aren’t exactly ELITES.

      Also too, I understand that he prioritizes economic justice ahead of racial justice, in the sense that he thinks that racism is a product of economics. So, he’s getting side eye from me…

    • Why is Sen. Bernie Sanders (I) getting away with pretending to be the voice of the Democratic party? He is still not a Dem, why are they allowing him to speak for them?

      Also: 3 million more votes.

      Also: All of those not racist, not sexist, not homophobic non-deplorables were A-OK with with throwing minorities, women, and the LGBTQ community under the bus and allowing an infestation of racist, sexist, homophobic deplorables to invade the White House. So forgive me if I don’t find much difference between the deplorable and non-deplorable Trump voters. And I’m ready to start lumping the Bernie brats that keep insisting that it’s fine to ignore minority issues, women’s issues, and LGBTQ issues in with the Trump deplorables.

    • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

      Nope, Bernie! Democrats lost for a few reasons and none of them are what you are saying. We lost due to Gerrymandering, Russian interference and more of the usual dirty tricks the GOP employs to keep themselves in power.

      FYI, you ran for president. You ARE the “liberal elite”.

    • miss_grundy

      Sorry, Bernie. But a lot of the Trump supporters agreed with the racist, bigoted, xenophobic, Islamophobic, sexist, misogynist rhetoric.

      • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

        Yeah, sadly lot of people turned toward 45 with his Mexican statement.

    • Remember back during the primaries when Hillary was supposed to be “just like a Republican” for saying that she would try to work with Republicans and reach out to centrist Republican voters? What does that make Bernie pandering to Trump voters?

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Because it’s different when Hillary does it.

    • The Witch of Endor

      As angry as Sanders’ words make me, he has some points that should be addressed if we want to move forward. I vehemently deny his scenario that those who voted for Trump weren’t ultimately voting for racism, sexism, and general bigotry. There is no way to move forward until those who are now regretting voting for Trump own up to their decision to vote their own interest (supposedly) which also happened to support all of the above over the General Welfare.

      However, the democratic party has also left or ignored people who needed representation and Trump apparently made them feel they were finally being heard. If we deny this fundamental fact, we’re as bad as the Republicans.

      The trick is to find the middle ground where Dems can own our collective laziness, and those who voted for Trump or a 3rd party as a message to Dems, can own their knowing collusion to vote for a Nazi.

      We all have to be willing to face our part in how we got here. I don’t think Bernie is helping things right now, and I’m a little disappointed in Senator Warren.

      • There’s always something that we can do better. But I do not think that abandoning civil rights, women’s rights, LGBT rights, racial injustice, etc to court white working class voters (that will probably still go home to the Reps in the end) is any kind of strategy at all. I am supremely pissed at Bernie and his followers who keep insisting that my issues shouldn’t matter to the only major party that’s ever made any effort to deal with them. My POC friends feel the same way.

        Bernie Sanders shouldn’t be speaking for Democrats at all — he still isn’t one. Of the Dems making headlines right now, Maxine Waters is probably the best face of the party — African American women are the Dems most reliable base and have been for a long damn time. Bernie and the dudebros who gripe about identity politics are not doing the party any favors by turning off that base to pursue Trump voters. We ought to be focusing on voting rights and accessibility. That’s more likely to shore up our numbers than pandering to bigots ever will be.

        • The Witch of Endor

          If I implied that reconciliation should be at the cost of advancement of civil rights for women, persons of color, LGBTQ, or non Christians, I apologize. All I’m saying is that there is a large portion of voters who we might have been able to bring into the fold if we had made the effort to listen, while also educating. I’m also aware that many african americans feel that they are only important to the Dems when there’s an election going on. Shaun King certainly writes about this and several friends have supported his view when we’ve talked about this past election.

          Gerrymandering also plays a huge part, but still doesn’t address the percentage of the population that has felt completely ignored until this election. Yes, their views are repugnant, but what have we done to educate this segment of the population? And why do some people of color feel that Dems pay only nominal lip service to equal rights?

          I think Sanders is grandstanding, but that doesn’t mean all of his points are invalid just because his motives are questionable.

          • What have we done to educate this segment of the population? What can be done? Hillary calling them out on being “deplorable” didn’t help a bit, but this is a segment of the population that calls everything it doesn’t like “fake news”. The educational talking points are out there on the television and in the newspapers every single day. But, these people won’t listen. I don’t know if they can.

          • The Witch of Endor

            Many, if not most, received their “education” from Limbaugh and then Fox. Limbaugh started out by telling listeners that Dems agenda starts out by “finding common ground” and this is just the first step to brainwashing. He’s been saying this for 20 years.

            I think the first, best step that can be taken is making the FCC reinstate the Fairness Doctrine. Rush didn’t get traction until Reagan got the doctrine revoked (I think it was during his first term).

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine

          • I just can’t with Sanders anymore, that’s all. I can’t watch him excuse — hell, outright deny — the racism and sexism and bigotry of Trump voters at the expense of the people who are and who will be suffering from that sexism and racism and bigotry. It takes my breath away that he can advocate for economic justice while asking Democrats to be less rigid on reproductive rights, for example. He must know that there’s no chance of economic justice for half the population if we can’t control when and whether to have children, and he must know that these rights have been chipped away drastically and that the same people he’s pandering to want to take away even more of them. He must know this, but he says it anyway, and all I can conclude is that he doesn’t care if his economic justice applies to women. I felt the same way watching him and his campaign denigrate democratic primary voters (large amounts of whom were POC) in southern states during the primaries. Can Dems do better on race issues? Yes! Do they have a history of taking POC votes for granted? Yes! We can and should do better. But nothing Sanders is offering is better, because he doesn’t appear to get that without racial justice, minorities won’t benefit from his ideas of economic justice either. At this point, the messenger and most of the message is so flawed that it’s not worth the work to pry out the good bits from what he’s saying. Not for me, anyway.

            As for educating the Trump voters, without infiltrating Breitbart and Fox news, I don’t know what you can do. The information is out there. It’s so frustrating to me that people keep insisting that the Dems didn’t talk to working class voters. I’m a working class voter and I heard them fine. Hillary talked more about jobs and middle-class families than any other issue — it just didn’t get reported on. Which STILL doesn’t mean the information wasn’t out there — her website was absolutely stuffed with things that were designed to help people who were actually dealing with economic insecurity. She published op-eds, she gave speeches, she debated, she made all this stuff public — the people you’re talking about just didn’t want to hear any of it. They were too busy shouting “Lock her up” and “Trump that bitch”. How do you educate people who shout down any attempt at education? They aren’t kids in a classroom. The K-12 classrooms are probably where we need to be, really, with decent civics education, among other things, but we’re not going to get there through Betsy DeVos.

    • Wealthy, east coast liberal says what, now?

  • BadKitty904

    OT: Question for y’all – if the national and some state voting process was hacked/corrupted in 2016, as current evidence indicates, how will we know if it’s being hacked/corrupted now, in 2018, 2020, etc.? It’s certainly not like We the People can trust a Russo-Republican Administration/Congress to fix it.

    The First Week of Early Voting Bodes Well for Democrat Jon Ossoff
    A special election in Georgia’s 6th district is testing the liberal backlash against Donald Trump.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/first-week-early-voting-democrat-jon-ossoff_us_58dfcabfe4b0b3918c83efcb?d&amp;

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

      This is a very good, and very scary question. The GOP and Drumpf have managed to shake my confidence in every American institution.

      • BadKitty904

        That’s what concerns me. Despite issues in 2016, I’ve heard of no changes, improvements, upgrades in the voting process. And the Junta current in control has a very vested interest in making sure there aren’t any.

        • HazooToo

          Other countries have done away with the machines entirely, I don’t have specifics because I don’t feel like looking for them right now.

          • Vecchioivan

            I too have a vague feeling I heard something like that once. . . .

          • Kakkeltje

            The Netherlands did, it is all paper now.

          • BadKitty904

            Goed gedaan!

      • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

        Well, that’s clearly what the Kremlin wants. Their intent, I believe, is to shake our confidence in every American institution so we destroy ourselves from within. This, to Putin, may be a matter of pride and showing his people that they are indeed better than we are and that democracy is corrupt and deeply flawed.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

          That is a very good point. Honestly there are days when I don’t see any of this ending except in blood.

          • georgiaburning

            Hope you’re wrong, kid. Best case I see is things ending in a Czech-Slovak style separation at some point, possibly past my lifetime.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            I hope I’m wrong too. I hope we get justice, and a peaceful resolution.

        • georgiaburning

          THIS^^- The Russians I met a few years ago, mostly middle aged, were proud of their country and wanted to make it better after communism collapsed. Putin’s appeals to national patriotism played on this. Examples of how the western democracies’ systems are ineffective and corrupt play well for him. Russia’s history is filled with autocratic rulers, and the best the people can hope for is a relatively competent and benevolent one. Putin and his United Russia party are trying to present themselves in that light. Meanwhile, they steal the place blind.

      • Shanzgood

        We had that in KS in 2014 already.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Well, let’s not forget that probably the most effective “hacking” was of the DNC emails, and they’ll have better security in the future as a result. The second most effective thing – planting fake news stories – is only “hacking” in a metaphorical sense, but I’m not sure how best to combat it in a free society, beyond requiring Facebook etc. not to publish obvious lies.

      • BadKitty904

        I’m referring to the process of actually casting and counting ballots.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/33922ef69f815a9d60cd174c2e242a03a56c514a53739ace650cee20206cfb90.jpg

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          Ms Kitty: Almost all states are using paper ballots with scanners for counting. This provides a paper record of the actual votes cast. In person voter fraud in this case would be very hard en masse.

          The few states left (I’m looking at you Florida & Ohio) that use “touch screen” voting machines could potentially be hacked directly. These are the infamous Diebold voting machines that every information security person has said are horribly insecure.

          • BadKitty904

            Hmm. I’m in Florida, so perhaps my concern is local, then. I certainly hope so. But as we’re the third most-populous state in the Union, that’s still a concern.

            <– is a tom, so it's "Mr. Kitty," actually.

          • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

            My two toms are threatening to get involved with the “Tom’s Rights” movement if they don’t get more kibble, and earlier, too, please.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            Please excuse my lack of awareness of the feline’s gender.

          • BadKitty904

            De nada. On the Internet, no one can hear you gender.

      • Scrofula

        And the WORST hacking against Dems was redrawing awful districts.

        • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

          Don’t forget the heinous “voter purges” and unobtainable “Voter ID’s” for certain populations, and outright threats in minority districts. Voter suppression was grotesque in this last election.

      • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

        Not metaphorical at all if you call it what it is: a species of social engineering. Not sure what remedies there are beyond education–a sort of “phishproofing” for society–since we really want to stay from any form of “US Government Approved Facts™”. Note that this education, no matter the source, will be largely ineffective for the extremes of Right and Left. There’s shit they want to believe, and ain’t nobody gonna tell ’em they can’t…

        • Ill-Advised

          It’s…it’s almost as if we needed news organizations to present what both sides do, and only had something that used be called “civics” taught in school.
          Crazy, I know.

    • Scrofula

      Push for paper ballots.
      I don’t think anyone hacked the results, they just broke into state voter lists and info.

    • Stulexington

      Include voter id drives with the GOTV drives. So far they’re cheating with voter suppression instead of hiring trained monkeys to hack the booths.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Expert wordsmything from friend of this mommyblog, Charlie “Charles” Pierce.

    I recalled all of this while watching Friday’s installment of Sean Spicer: Live In Washington, the new hit series. This, I must say, was an episode on which the writer’s room really outdid itself. http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a54247/spicer-press-conference-absurd/

    • BadKitty904

      Just add a laff-track and hey, presto!

  • The internet, with all of its precious “jokes” is just disgusting me, today. Don’t get me wrong. I like jokes, especially if dicks are involved. But, the annual competition for which Corporate Person can dream up the most elaborate and self-reflexive jape is just maddening.

    • Scrofula

      Now that I’m not in it, I blame the 18-35 male demo. Somehow they’ve convinced Corps. they should he “hip” and have twitter shit.

    • The Witch of Endor

      This is why I’m pretty much avoiding Facebook today and for the next several days, since a lot of the jokes will carry over and I’m unlikely to notice the original date.

      • BosGrl

        If I see that “I’m unfriending the following people” joke from one more person…

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      Fuck April Fools, esp this year. My Fake News gland is just abt dead. Doc says if I keep stressing it, I could lose my sense of humor entirely.

      • Courser_Resistance

        I haven’t been on the internet much today, but this morning I got a very amusing April Fool’s email from Ikea. That was about it.

        • Prof. T. Green Bastard

          I’ve only stuck around here, so I’ve managed to mostly forget what day it is. Excellent.

    • HazooToo

      Only one I’ve been exposed to, today, is Cartoon Network. All their shows have googly eyes, today. Tolerable. Actually improves some shows.

      • Jamoche

        *checks*
        That’s fine for Teen Titans, but it had better be gone when Samurai Jack shows up.

        • HazooToo

          I know, the eyes are about half of Jack’s dialogue.

    • Scrofula

      Hmm, my internet social bubble consists of Wonkette and Fark, random support group that may be mostly bots.
      I’ve been bad joke free!

  • Nounverb911

    10 Year old Matthew Perry once beat up Justin Trudeau, now Justin wants a re-match.
    https://twitter.com/NYMag/status/848255919976796160

    • BosGrl

      I just love him so much. Can we have him?

    • HazooToo

      I wanna watch!

    • Royal Ugly Dude

      When his Dad was PM? Damn.

    • An Outhouse for the Resistance

      Do it for charity. Madison Square Garden.

  • arglebargle

    Fuck this fucker. And fuck Joe Paterno too.

  • yyyaz

    I’m watching “Thirteen Days,” the Hollywood version of the Cuban Missile Crisis. So, yes it is Hollywood with some theatrical license, but aside from that, it received approval from Kennedy Administration officials who were there as an accurate depiction of the actual events and primary characters. If you haven’t seen it and want to compare and contrast where we have been and how far we have descended into utter chaos since Jan. 20, be forewarned: it isn’t pretty.

    • BosGrl

      My dad lived across a narrow channel from Logan Airport back then and has talked about how terrifying it was to see the bombers lined up on the runway.

      • The Witch of Endor

        I was living in Warsaw, Poland and wasn’t in any real danger, but all embassy children were accompanied by Marine escorts to and from school and a marine was housed with my family until the crisis had passed. I was too young to understand what was going on and how dangerous things were. But I distinctly remember the Marines and their presence during that October.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

          Wow.

        • BosGrl

          Omg!

          • The Witch of Endor

            We were actually in less danger than folks in the southern U.S. But my parents used to talk about how freaked they were, but only after we got back to the States and were old enough to understand. At the time I just thought it was weird.

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

      That’s a movie I really enjoy. Geekout Time – The F-8 Crusader – they show Photo-recon Crusaders in the film – was notoriously difficult to land on carriers, and several pilots were killed when they got “behind” on power settings. The fix turned out to be cutting the thumb of the pilot’s right glove off, giving them more sensitivity in setting the jet’s trim.

      Why do I mention this? In the scene where Navy Photo Crusaders are getting film of the Launch sites, you see the pilot with a bare thumb sticking out of his glove.

      Superb research, to capture a very tiny detail.

      • BadKitty904

        My fellow Americans, with a heavy heart, and in necessary fulfillment
        of my oath of office, I have ordered — and the United States Air Force
        has now carried out — military operations with conventional weapons
        only, to remove a major nuclear weapons build-up from the soil of Cuba
        ,” Kennedy was to begin…

        ‘With a Heavy Heart…’ — Secret JFK Speech Could Have Signaled Start of WWIII
        http://www.rferl.org/a/speech-that-wasnt-kennedy-prepared-speech-cuban-missile-crisis/24744628.html

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

          It was so close.

          • BadKitty904
          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            Yeah. I grew up in end stage Cold War (I?) so I have a morbid fascination for nuclear weapons. It’s my believe that even a “modest” exchange of Thermo-nukes will lead to human extinction, perhaps even planetary extinction.

            I hope we don’t have to find out.

        • BosGrl

          Can you imagine this happening now? Drumpf would have tweeted this immediately and we’d all be hiding under the desks.

          • yyyaz

            And that is what is so terrifying about the utterly incompetent maladministration running the shitshow. They have an infinite number of ways to fuck things up beyond repair.

      • FlownΩver

        I liked the casting of a gen-you-wine Kennedy nephew as one of the pilots.

        • Anna Elizabeth

          I had honestly forgotten that

    • BadKitty904

      My parents grew up in Florida at that time. They still talk about listening to the air-raid sirens being regularly tested – that sound meant you had roughly 5 minutes to say goodbye to your loved ones.

      • Courser_Resistance

        Christ. I was a little kid at the time and my folks lived in a suburb of Rockford, Illinois. My folks were told at a PTA meeting that if the ‘big one’ hit Rockford we’d have approx 5 seconds to kiss our asses goodbye. My dad was a working chemist and let me know that we’d all be very dead, very fast. I went along with the ‘duck and cover’ drills anyway.

        • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

          I figured the duck and cover drills were responsible for “never trust anyone over 30”. Assholes saying hiding under our desks will matter in a nuclear strike; what else are they lying about?

          • Courser_Resistance

            Also too, at the SAME time, our teacher read to us out of John Hershey’s Hiroshima every day at lunch. So I always hugged really tight to the walls, hoping one would fall on me and kill me quick.

            Yeah, my childhood had it’s dark parts. I also made my own ‘bomb shelter’ in a storage closet in a corner of our basement. I wasn’t planning for the rest of the family. Just me and my cat.

          • FlownΩver

            We had a pretty good hunch “duck and cover” would only produce a smaller pile of ash.

  • Vecchioivan
    • Msgr_MΩment

      Hawking’s cat discovers a singularity.

  • Ωbjectifier

    Just in case this isn’t shitty enough, Wiki says:
    As of October 2016. McQueary was unemployed and living at his parents’ house in State College.

  • The Witch of Endor
  • When Bernie starts talking about abolishing the electoral college, I’ll start listening.

    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

      Yeah, apparently today he’s all about defending Trump supporters. I just couldn’t hate him more.

      • HogeyeGrex

        Ah, yes. “Most Trump voters aren’t racist, sexist, deplorables.”

        Probably true, but most racist, sexist, deplorables are Trump voters.
        And yeah, people judge you by the company you keep.

        • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

          “They are racist, sexist, deplorable. . . Some, I assume, are good people.”

    • Courser_Resistance

      Bernie makes my ass tired. Can he maybe find some new talking point.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    Moar of this please. A federal judge in Kentucky is allowing a lawsuit by three protesters assaulted at a Donald Trump campaign rally last March to move forward, agreeing with the plaintiffs that Trump’s call from the podium for his supporters to “get ’em out of here” incited rally-goers to physically attack them. He cites testimony from one of the assailants—a known member of a white nationalist group—saying he began shoving the young African American woman protester after hearing Trump’s call to “get them out.”
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-rally-violence-court-incitemet
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/18c4d7e264d41302b640fc3a8fc490822e3847f3b6e36e41b47dd149f800d48b.jpg

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      The fuck is wrong w the feeb in the ‘white’ shirt’s hair?

      They all look like Sally took a big, Beauty Product shit all over them.

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      I wish assholes like this had the sand to walk around my town wearing those fucking shirts. Punk ass bigots.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      That’s a lot of economic anxiety on display there.

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        iswydt

        And I like it.

      • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

        Yes, all those people are positively white with anxiety.

    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

      They are hateful, hideous women, but just FYI this was photoshopped and the original T-shirt on the lady in the middle said “Trump,” not “White.” I don’t get the hair, though. I imagine they just wanted their pitcher on the TEEvee.

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        You mean it’s fake news? Oh, how very sad is that?

    • Jennifer R

      Fuck them with donnie’s dick.

      • miss_grundy

        They probably would squeal with delight. Also if he grabbed their p*ssies.

        • Rags

          Is it in yet?

    • miss_grundy

      The next time that Bernie says Trumpsters aren’t racist, show him this picture.

  • Msgr_MΩment
  • Nick.Trite

    Thus the old lawyer saying: dance like no one is watching, e-mail like it’ll be on the front page of tomorrow’s paper.

  • Mehmeisterjr

    So-called victims.

    So-called judges.

    So-called verdicts.

    So-called juries.

    Yeah, this asshole has mastered the “so-called” excuse.

    • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

      A so-called business genius is now the so-called president.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      So-called treason.

  • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

    Give an ignorant, conspiracy minded moron whose worldview is informed by Fox News, Breitbart and InfoWars masses of raw intelligence data. What could go wrong?

    https://twitter.com/markberman/status/847983418633793536

    • snark-lurker

      you mean tRumphster?

    • Courser_Resistance

      Oh yeah, I’m sure that will end well…

    • WeaselPoo

      Sound to me like “officials” and “advisers” = Bannon, who will wet his pants at receiving raw data to use for his own benefit and power. More than ‘sidelining’ professional analysis, he can just filter and apply his own ‘analysis’ to Trump.

      Trump himself can’t analyze a paper bag, and has no interest in attempting to do so, but that’s not the bad part—it’s Bannon’s access and control that would result, if this were to happen. That’s terrifying.

      • artem1s

        I’m sure you are right about Bannon. But I’m also pretty sure Twittler thinks he gonna find something in the intel that will justify his outrageous claims about the IC and Obama spying on him. However, I’m also pretty sure that Twittler doesn’t have the patience or reading skills to get thru one report.

        Good news, I’m pretty sure the intelligence community is not ever going to let this happen. They have already demonstrated to these idjits what they think of the gang that couldn’t shoot straight and their tendency to ignore intelligence briefings. The IC is going to see this as another threat and deal with it accordingly.

    • laineypc

      Somebody has been watching Homeland, I see.

  • Michael R
    • BosGrl

      [insert dramatic chipmunk video here]

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        Not to be a rodent snob, but isn’t is usually a prairie dog? If you’re holding out on chipmunk pix my download folder will be sad!

        • BosGrl

          I’m a city girl from the northeast. I have no idea what a prairie dog is ;)

    • snark-lurker

      no big deal! I had to put on pants today, THAT is a big deal, it was yooge, yooge, believe me

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        Heretic!

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      Damn, Mikey, this is really looking bad, kinda like you will in your prison jumpsuit. You shoulda known orange wasn’t your color, man.

      • laineypc

        Immunity is the new orange.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Lock him up! Lock him up!

    • An Outhouse for the Resistance

      Shocked. Shocked I tell you.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      “Orange is the New Class As”

    • Msgr_MΩment
  • BadKitty904
    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

      Enjoy, Kitty! :)

    • Ωbjectifier

      Kitty on the kick drum!

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Josey and the Pussycats tribute band?

    • BearDeLaOursistance

      What part of Alfred Lord do we cook first? In the Votepot, I mean.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        I don’t think there are any parts that are edible. We should bury him in the sand for a couple months, like they do with shark.

    • Photo from the recording of the new Yoko Ono album?

      …I’ll show myself out.

      • BadKitty904

        Me-OW!!1!

  • Nounverb911
    • Msgr_MΩment

      Great. Now what are THEY supposed to do with him?

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Weren’t they supposed to set the bag on fire before running away, so that the NYTimes would try to stomp it out?
      Don’t people do childish teenage pranks right anymore?

    • FlownΩver

      The delivery was short seven heads, but included a spare asshole to make up for it.

  • Mavenmaven

    Time for some angry protest music, the album is called JUST SAY NO TO THE PSYCHO RIGHT​-​WING CAPITALIST FASCIST INDUSTRIAL DEATH MACHINE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTGdXLx7Ht0.

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

    A professor lecturing his linguistics class said, “In English, a double-negative forms a positive. In other languages, a double negative remains a negative. But there’s no language where a double positive forms a negative”.

    One of his students rolled his eyes and responded, “Yeah, right!” .

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

      XD

    • EddieFrancis

      can i be thick – is rolling the eyes a positive? sorry, early morning here

      • Jamoche

        It’s a sarcasm marker.

    • Eileen Besse

      Ooooohhhhhhhh…said this English major….

    • Mavenmaven

      OK, we should give credit where credit is due. That was a true story, the lecturer was J. L. Austin at Columbia, and when he made the comment about double positives, the late great Sidney Morgenbesser called out from the back “Yeah, yeah”. (it is a New Yorkism that derives from Yiddish). Here it is, with some of his other great lines (there were many). http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/26/magazine/sidewalk-socrates.html

  • Royal Ugly Dude

    As the university’s chief fundraiser, President Spanier surely would have intervened to protect those so-called victims–had he only known about their 7-figure net worth.

  • BearDeLaOursistance

    Without even the faintest hint of votes.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    From the “She’s Still Got It” files:

    Students camp overnight for Hillary Clinton

    Students at Georgetown University, Washington DC, have camped out overnight to see Hillary Clinton speak.

    • I’m curious what her approval numbers are right now. They have historically gone pretty high when she wasn’t actively running for anything. I think it would be fun to poll them and report them on some of the news shows that we know Trump watches.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Did she do all the old hits? What did she save for the encore?

    • msanthropesmr

      I only like her pre-email stuff like Whitewater. This is like Kid A all over again.

  • Nounverb911
    • Scrofula

      Not a perfect score–she didn’t knock over any drinks or potted plants.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        That drink was so close, too! It’s like her heart wasn’t in it.

  • Jennifer R

    How I know it’s time to go back to bed for the day:
    Went shopping got misgendered.

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

      ~hugs~ I’m sorry. I get that about once a week anymore. Nasty bitches usually.

      • Jennifer R

        Three times this week so far.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

          *shakes head* So many assholes. I’m sorry.

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      Hey, happened to me when I was a perky 18 year old with a braid down to my butt. People are morons. Now I’m old and get “ma’med.” I always clarify that all women are “miss” unless you’re wearing a cowboy hat and spurs.

  • What Pierre said

    OT: Goddamned fucking anti-vax fucking fuckers. (Motherfucking rage makes me bloody incoherent except for fucking expletives, goddammit). 1 in 1000 death rate, 17 children dead in Romania. Fuck the fucking anti-vax fuckers right in the earhole…. um, with votes, I guess.

    http://globalnews.ca/news/3345439/deadly-measles-outbreak-spreads-in-europe-as-vaccinations-fall/?utm_source=Homegnca-national&utm_medium=MostPopular&utm_campaign=2014

    http://www.euro.who.int/en/media-centre/sections/press-releases/2017/measles-outbreaks-across-europe-threaten-progress-towards-elimination

    Bloody, bugger, bollocks

    • Rick Hill

      More than infant mortality. Life long problems can result, as well.

      • What Pierre said

        I know, deafness, infertility… I just can’t, there should be a vaccination against stupidity but if there were these fuckers wouldn’t take it either.

    • aktlib101

      There are plenty of vaccine doses available, and vaccine is FREE. People just fail to vaccinate their kids. Idiots.

  • Prof. T. Green Bastard

    For you Wonks who also may have the Saturday Grumps: I made a little Turnip effigy to amuse myself. He says the damndest stuff, let me tell you.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5fe0123b93d217950bea7ce9976ed424549b84a42150b116f5983d7f7e181b68.jpg

    @ some point, I’ll make him a teeny, ill-fitting suit complete w a long red, tape-covered tie. I better get a move on if I expect to get it done while he’s still in office.

    • Ha ha! As cute as Turnip will ever get…!

      Although you are getting some competition from my mother, who is crocheting him as an owl, tweeting in the night.

      • Prof. T. Green Bastard

        I love that! PLZ post pics when she’s done!

        • Will do! She’s an artist, and this is for a show that is to go up in June (I think?) and crochet isn’t fast but I intend to spread it around once it is done.

    • HazooToo

      Can you stick pins in it?

      • Prof. T. Green Bastard

        Absolutely. Just like in real life, he’s full of plastic stuffing & foul-smelling dust.

        • snark-lurker

          well do it!

          • Prof. T. Green Bastard

            He gets a lot of new piercings. ;)

        • HazooToo

          YAY! Stick one in the left nipple for me!

          • Prof. T. Green Bastard

            Done!

          • HazooToo

            Eeeeexcellent! Now we play the waiting game…

          • FlownΩver

            Do ou have the necessary fine motor skills to get a pin through some of the tiny, tiny fingers?

          • Prof. T. Green Bastard

            I’ll just have to bust out the reeeeally tiny pins.

      • SeekingResistanceBarbie
    • An Outhouse for the Resistance

      Awesome. I sat on my ass all day. You win.

      • Prof. T. Green Bastard

        If it helps, I spent the day in a bathrobe & ignored a shit ton of housework…

      • Lambsendbeds

        I spent the day playing with a three foot long Ball Python at the Zoo. Does that count as nothing, since I’m sitting on my ass now ignoring a sink full of dirty dishes?

      • yyyaz

        I’ve watched two very good, long movies and now the first Final Four game. And hung out here. I did run the dishwasher, though, so another hour and it will be cocktail time.

      • Courser_Resistance

        I got my rent paid and my grocery shopping done and NOW I’m sitting on my ass trying to figure out how to get enough quarters to get my laundry done. The store wouldn’t give me any and my local Chase bank won’t fucking sell you a goddamn roll of quarters unless you have an account. I know it’s a first world problem, but it pisses me off. I couldn’t do laundry LAST week because no quarters. I HAVE to do laundry if I have to go out and beg for quarters on the street corner! :-(

      • FlownΩver

        Yard and garden beckoned today in LFK. Last frost date is now about two weeks earlier than in my alleged youth.

  • HogeyeGrex

    Wars? We got wars. We’re just not going to tell you about them.
    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-deployment-20170330-story.html

    • TJ Barke

      Secret wars, Nixon would be proud.

      • Scrofula

        Speaking of, Kissinger’s still alive. How is he not handling it in this admin?

        • TJ Barke

          With his steady diet of orphan hearts he cannot die unless someone stakes his heart.

          • Scrofula

            What heart? Fucker needs fire, a conflagration of votes.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      This mommyblog’s Rules for Radicals were confected back when the world made sense. There may now be a need to weaponize those suckers.

      That being said, bless their hearts.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    What do you snowflakes not understand about a winning football team?

    • Ωbjectifier

      A HS near me just had a football hazing scandal hit the news. Really bad, prison rape type of shit. They’ve been state champs like 7 times in the last 10 years.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Well, then clearly, nobody needs to go to jail. It’s only losing teams that you need to lock up.

        • Ωbjectifier

          Well now that you mention it, the only one currently being held is the black kid in a mostly white school. Being charged as an adult (he’s 17) for multiple counts of kidnapping, sexual assault, etc.

          Story just broke yesterday, I’m sure it will get uglier.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            I’m pretty sure being on a winning team trumps being black.As long as the team needs him, he should go free. It’s all about the kids.

        • Scrofula

          I’m sure it’s best they expel the victim. He’s just bad luck for the team, hurts morale.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            No team spirit. Sad. Weak.

      • An Outhouse for the Resistance

        Buttsechs makes you a better ball catcher?

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          It’s cool as long as you’re on the DL (disabled list, you pigs)!

          • Jonny On Maui

            Defensive Line works too… ;-)

      • laineypc

        Well I surely do hope that the trauma of a trial doesn’t interfere with their team’s success. It would just be terrible if their scholarships were derailed by some false accusations by drunken so-called victims.

      • notaten

        It’s just boys being boys, trying to build up team spirit. Why ruin their lives just for some hijinks that got out of hand?
        Now I’m opening another beer and trying to forget this shit exists.

        • Courser_Resistance

          If I had a beer, I’d probably open it with my teeth over that sports bullshit. When I was a student at CU Boulder back in the late 70’s, it was open season on cute, young co-eds by the football team. I refused to even buy the tickets (which were NOT included in student fees then). That experience with Big Sports has pretty much soured me on college and professional football.

          Better I stick with cannabis.

          • FlownΩver

            The only performance I ever paid to see at Folsom Field was The Who. Even given some uncertainty about Townshend’s reading habits I still feel virtuous.

          • Courser_Resistance

            Oh man, the concerts I saw at Folsom! The Stones, Steve Miller, Fleetwood Mac, the Beach Boys… Oh, those were the years! I think it was at the Stones, when I was so stoned when I stepped on a hot cigarette butt, I didn’t realize it for almost a full minute. Then it hurt roughly ‘forever’ until I completely forgot about it.

      • Goposaur

        that’s the type of garbage why I only pursued individual sports.

    • Shakenbake

      See, that’s exactly what Art Briles and our old pal Ken Starr want to know. All they did was assemble a veritable Legion of Doom of sexual assault enthusiasts who made time in their schedules to make Baylor a conference championship contender.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Sorry, Libtard, but I’m fairly sure the law says that it’s OK to molest children as long as you’re either very rich, or you’re coaching a winning football team. Look it up!

        • Shakenbake

          That may not be in my pocket constitution. 🤔

  • Nephilim

    A member of Penn State’s trustee board blames the victims for long time abuse. So it’s no secret why sexual abuses are a problem in some of our colleges.

  • An Outhouse for the Resistance

    I’m reading a new biography of Hitler (who I never gave a second thought about before). Apparently they have the same blue eyes.

    • What Pierre said

      It was tough keeping them on ice and viable for that long, but it was worth it for that authentic ‘genocidal’ crazy-eyed look.

      • Lambsendbeds

        *gigglesnort*

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    Scan a map of the London Underground for the first time, and you’ll likely notice that it is more than the ground-breaking design that seems imaginative. The names of the stations, too, can seem curiously, even bizarrely, whimsical. Some seem suited better to a medieval fantasy (Knightsbridge, Queensway) or a children’s book (Piccadilly Circus, Elephant & Castle) – and others still make Londoners giggle (Shepherd’s Bush, Cockfosters).

    http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20170208-how-tube-stations-got-their-hilarious-names

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      As a geographer, I have always loved the Tube map. It is a beautiful work of the cartographic art and the typography and place-names add to the overall brilliance.

      • LucindathePook

        yeah, I’ve got it framed on the bedroom wall, all of whose art is dedicated to public transportation–trolleys, interurbans, cablecars, etc.

      • FlownΩver

        A friend who used to work for the London transit system tells me many Londoners think the Tube map is an accurate representation of the city. Not so much.

    • WeaselPoo

      True. If you haven’t seen this, I recommend it: the 15 Billion pound railway–a documentary following the latest expansion of the Tube. Incredible engineering organization and labor expertise. Compare to the Port Authority and american politics and policy that ‘run’ the New York subway.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04b7h1w

    • DainBramage

      I’ve always been partial to St. John’s Wood. Oh wait…

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        “Mind the gap. This is a Piccadilly line train to Cockfosters”

        Of course, you need the female British voice to pull that off.

  • The Librarian

    Mr. Sallie Mae should just shut his sanctimonious piehole. Go play with your ill-gotten gains and save your lack of human kindness for someone who deserves it, like Sean Spicer.

  • aktlib101

    Heh, a very succinct paragraph I just read and liked:
    “Whatever position one takes on the debate about whether Donald Trump is a political genius (my answer: he is not) or has simply surrounded himself with gangster capitalist nihilists and racists who want to destroy the United States in an orgy of political chaos and self-interested greed at the expense of the American people (my answer: this is true), one thing is clear: Trump has not created his own reality.
    He is not a leviathan or visionary. The simple and pathetic truth is that like a Republican version of Cinderella, Donald Trump slipped his foot into a political shoe that was tailor-made just for him”
    http://www.salon.com/2017/03/31/sorry-donald-trump-has-not-created-his-own-reality-he-took-advantage-of-a-reality-that-was-already-here/

    • Scrofula

      If you read about his early real estate deals, they were all impulsive; he overpaid all the time in a way he could never pay off loans. That he still came out ahead is a credit to his ACCOUNTANTS. I don’t think he even grasps how his business works.
      But he was loud and vulgar, and that’s good for half of America.

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        Yes, his teams of accountants and lawyers he hired to do the actual work of cleaning up his shit. Just like now, the bully is dependent on paid sycophants and lackeys or just plain suck-ups who know a mark when they see one.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          Except these sycophants don’t just get fired, they get jailed. And if we follow it through, their self-interest will make them sacrifice whomever to stay out of prison.

      • aktlib101

        I am convinced Trump is a true “idiot”. His speech, his writing. His IQ is probably below 100. Not to mention the narcissism. But his many years in that privileged position turned him gradually into a skilled “used car dealer”. He is not doing anything new, just the same thing over and over. Like a parrot.

        • yyyaz

          Except that the owner of his car lot has gone on vacation and given him the company checkbook.

        • Scrofula

          All his manners go back to like early 80’s business. The never apologize, never say you’re wrong, agressive handshake, women are ornaments. He got a lesson from his Uncle in 1979 and hasn’t learned shit since.

    • OrG

      If I were to have a nazi crust punk band (I NEVER will),Gangster Capitalist Nihilists would be a pretty good name.

      • (Major_Major_Major)ly_Pissed

        I still say Leftöver Crack is the best crust punk name ever. Even without the umlaut…

        • OrG

          Funny you should mention Leftover Crack. I’m going to see them TONIGHT!

          • (Major_Major_Major)ly_Pissed

            How was it?

          • OrG

            Nice sweaty all ages punk show. Hell Yeah. First time I’ve seen Leftover Crack so I can’t say they were way better back in the day. They sounded great. Only disappointing thing was they only played about 55 minutes.

          • (Major_Major_Major)ly_Pissed

            An hour set from any punk band (ok, maybe not some of the pop punk) is pretty damned satisfying.

    • Shanzgood

      I don’t think Trump or any of the rest of them even really care what happens to our country as long as they get what they want. More power, more money. They can never have enough and they don’t care who has to pay for it or get fucked over, whether it’s a poor “base” voter or another .001% type. Everyone is fair game as long as the get a win.

      • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

        They are short term thinkers. People thinking long term, who had a genuine interest in seeing the country and the majority of its populace doing well, would not enthusiastically embrace policies that sacrifice the health, well being and prosperity of over 300,000,000 people for the enrichment of a tiny fraction of that number.

        • vivian

          I’m reluctant to even call them short-term thinkers. They are driven by a marked lack of impulse control and an insatiable appetite for dominance.

        • SeekingResistanceBarbie

          They have no interest, genuine or otherwise, in seeing anyone but themselves doing well.

          • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

            That’s what I think. They’re completely incapable and unwilling to see the universe beyond the tip of their own nose. It’s only about their own gratification and we’re all just objects to be manipulated for that end. That’s why so many of them have predilections toward rape and other forms of assault.

        • aktlib101

          Plutocrats. And Grifters. Our society has highest income inequality in the world. Why is this allowed? Russians are close by. Ultra-wealthy individuals controlling politics and gaming the system.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      This, too also.

      As Neil Postman warned in 1985, the American people are “amusing themselves to death.” This is happening for various reasons: the rise of celebrity culture, the way capitalism and consumerism have become conflated with democracy and freedom, widespread idealization of wealth and a broken public school system that nurtures anti-intellectualism and smothers critical thinking.

      Postman’s son recently opined that it’s not an Orwellian world so much as a Huxleyian dystopia we are living through.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRabb6_Gr2Y

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        Indeed. Although Merriam Webster might quibble over the definition of “brave.”

    • snark-lurker

      too nice for tRumphster, him much worse and uglier in all ways

  • So, yesterday was weird. On top of an odd workday, I witnessed a pro-Trump rant from one of my coworkers at the end of it. Saying he literally couldn’t imagine a worse president than Hillary Clinton, he went off on the “mainstream media”, and how Fox is the only real news source, while all of the other outlets just air 95% fake stuff. He just wants to hear THE TRUTH, not conjecture, not anything unverifiable. Then, he bragged about how Trump’s kids are working for the people FOR FREE! And Trump is working for free, too, and at the end of the year we’re going to be able to vote to choose which charity will get his presidential paychecks.

    I wanted to say that you can’t decry any and all unverified information as “fake news”, only to throw out a very unverified piece of information as fact in the same goddamned breath, but I wasn’t brave enough.

    Yes, this is the same guy who was talking about John Podesta a few weeks back when I ran out of there, screaming.

    • Point and laugh a lot when the impeachment trials start

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Saying he literally couldn’t imagine a worse president than Hillary Clinton

      Lack of imagination sounds like the least of his problems.

      • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

        He doesn’t have to imagine one…

        • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

          “I literally can’t imagine a worse president than. . . Oh, right, the orange dickwad.”

    • vivian

      I imagine you could easily sell him something that neither of you need for a grossly inflated price.

    • HazooToo

      I feel for you… Next time he does that shit, don’t say anything. Just laugh. In his face. And when he blusters, laugh harder.

    • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

      I am happy to say that at my workplace people don’t praise Trump when I’m around because they are worried about MY anger.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        I’m an ivory towerist, so nobody at my workplace admits to being stoopid enough to support the Great Dissembler.

        And then there’s my students whom I am obviously currently indoctrinating into becoming good little Trotskyites.

    • Duke

      You can ask him to keep his political opinions to himself.

      I had a coworker like that. Sort of a lonely guy and from the south. He’d start talking about gun rights or how the civil war was about states rights.

      • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

        To be fair, the civil war was about states’ rights. States’ rights to buy and keep human beings as cattle.

        I grew up hearing that “states rights/taxation” crap, even in school. It never took with me.

        • Duke

          Right, it’s a white-washing of the actual issue. He did have the termerity to say the Civil War wasn’t about slavery.

    • data_ninja

      I too was not brave enough today. I was in a book store, and in the history section was an outrageously gaudy package for President Trump (a book and some other ‘collectables’ in it I think). The next aisle over had books on other languages, including one titled “GO RUSSIAN”. I did not rearrange the books to meet with their obvious counterparts, and I damn well should have.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Oh, they will get louder and stupider. I recommend asking if it is all right for you to video this nonsense, then get out your phone….

      • Make sure to share the youtube links!

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Ask your doctor if a ballpeen hammer is right for you.

      • snark-lurker

        you need permission to record a co-worker ranting about politics?

        • Toomush_Inferesistance

          Nah, it’s just that asking alone will probably put that evil genie back in the bottle….

          • snark-lurker

            well that’s no fun

          • Toomush_Inferesistance

            Most of them are just trying to get you to go along with their self-justification…

        • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

          I think that depends on what state you’re in. If it’s in public, not sure that it matters much though. No expectation of privacy in a public setting.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      I know this fear. Back in the sixties, it was hard to go into public places unless you toed the “anti-communist” line and looked it. The first time I had to say “I disagree”, I could hardly hold myself still, I was trembling so hard. Now that I am old, it’s somehow easier. You just take a deep breath, let it out and say: “I disagree.” That’s all that’s necessary. If you say nothing, it always feels as though you’ve let Hitler win….

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      I just reply, “We’ll see” and walk away.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Idiots gonna idiot.

      He’ll think Trump is innocent, even as he’s paying his $25 million dollar fraud lawsuit, AND being hauled off to federal jail in handcuffs.

    • Jonny On Maui

      What Pickwick said but do it to him all the time. Ask him where his handler is.

    • Paul

      About that salary…….if the orange asshole really cared, he’d take a dollar as his yearlong pay. No law says he needs to be paid 400K or 200K or whatever. Only that he be paid. If he worked for a buck, only a buck would come out of the treasury.

      But FUCK NO!!!!! He draws his salary then intends to donate it at year’s end. For that, he will most certainly take a charitable deduction to offset his other income.
      That means the treasury won’t be getting the 100K (WAG…who knows his tax rate?) taxes he would’ve paid on that donated salary.

      If he took only the dollar, he couldn’t claim the charitable deduction. More importantly, the flaming narcissist then couldn’t tell us how fucking generous he is.

      So tell your Trump sucking co-worker that even donating his salary is a scam. He could just as easily cost the treasury $1 as he will cost the country a MINIMUM of half a million in this “donation” scam. I’d further ask if he intends to donate the interest/profit from investing that $500K for a year. Fuck both those guys.

      • SeekingResistanceBarbie

        Who (besides the gullible fools who support him), believes he’ll really donate his salary at the end of the year? He’ll come up with a reason not to, or just decide it’s none of our business to hold him to his empty promise.

        • It’ll probably cover about half the lawyer’s fees

        • FlownΩver

          I’m predicting Planned Parenthood and La Raza will be one-two in the voting. Spicer will asplode live on teevee.

        • Paul

          Likely he won’t be there at the end of the year. But if he is, he’ll be under heavy fire and will need all the goodwill he can garner, so I’m thinking he’ll follow through and milk the fuck out of it. Big contest to see who the lucky charity will be, lots of flags waived and babies kissed, apple pie all around.

  • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

    OT – I made my Mac-‘n-Cheese. It was just a box of Dollar Store stuff. I didn’t have as much butter as it called for: 8 tablespoons,- and who can walk to the store while the mac is boiling – so I used the 3 tablespoons worth I did have, and doubled the amount of milk. I threw in some grated Parmesan, Chives, chopped onion, Parsley, Black Pepper, a little salt, and a squirt of Sriracha.

    it’s pretty good, I think I’ll just do it this way everytime. :)

    • WeaselPoo

      Needs moar canned clams.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

        MONSTER!!!

        • WeaselPoo

          Or…. lightly grill the cheese with the jet exhaust of a Ling-Temco Vaught A-7E Corsair II. See, I’m not a complete monster!

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            You have redeemed yourself! :D I met a retired USAF pilot online, he flew A-7As in the Vietnam War. Pretty amazing guy.

    • Duke

      Make the mac&cheese with the suspicious power with cream. Yummy.

      I made tarts with dollar store cherry pie filling recently. Yummy.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

        That’s good stuff! I used a can once to make a topping for pancakes and it was really yummy. :)

        • snark-lurker

          you guys! stop this right now you are giving me thinks about puting a pie in my donut hole!

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            Pie is always good, I’m just trying to be a Good Girl and not eat things like hat right now.

          • Jonny On Maui

            What goes good with hat? A little lace sauce?

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            and a flower garnish! XD I can’t type for nuthin’ since my nails started growing back.

    • HazooToo

      Eight tablespoons?! Holy shit, woman! I’m glad you did cut down on that! I love my butter, but I’ve never used more than two in anything.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

        Yeah, a whole stick. It seemed kind of excessive. It really wasn’t needed, and I still am going to get another meal out of the leftovers.

        I used 2% milk too.

        • HazooToo

          Good! 2% actually still tastes like milk, not like skim. Skim is to milk, as Trump is to human.

          • Skim milk is water that is lying about being milk. -Ron Swanson

          • HazooToo

            I so almost quoted that <3

          • When in doubt, quote Ron Swanson

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            Agreed! I adore whole milk, but I’m still trying to get into bikini shape by Summer. I just made this today because I already had it.

            Ima get green salads, tomatoes, and all that this week.

          • HazooToo

            Mmmm, yes! You can make your own vinaigrette with red wine vinegar, chopped shallots, honey, and olive oil. Goes amazing on veggies, beef, fish, chicken, ANYthing! Make a big batch and keep in the fridge, shake before you pour.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            Cool, thank you! :D I was planning on making vinaigrette, I love creamy dressings but they kinda defeat the point of a diet. I just need Shallots and more Honey then.

          • HazooToo

            I can give you various low-cost recipes. If you can find a bag of frozen tilapia or other cheap fish, preferably in individual packets, grab it!

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            They should have it, the local market is lovely. Employee-owned, and they buy meat and produce from local farmers.

            I’d be grateful for any recipes or tips. :)

          • HazooToo

            The simplest one I have is for a fish curry, SO good! Chop three cloves garlic, add to a pot with two Tbs olive oil, and 1 or 2 Tbs of curry powder, depending on how spicy you like it. Toast them for about a minute, make sure they don’t burn. Pour in a can of coconut milk, bring to a simmer/light boil. Add gently thawed fillet or two of tilapia or other mild fish, and a half cup of golden raisins. Cook til the fish is in flakes and the raisins are plump, serve over minute rice.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            Saved, thank you. That sounds amazing, and I adore curry and Coconut milk and all of that! I’ll be d things to my list. :D

          • HazooToo

            That also can be multiplied easily if you have people over, or want tons of leftovers! Not sure if it freezes well tho, so tread carefully with that.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            OK, thank you for the warning on freezing. I’ll probably cook enough for a couple of meals at a time, that’s what I usually do.

          • Lord Jim

            Back the fuck up off my skim milk, girlyfriend. :P

          • HazooToo

            Oh, I’m sorry! Would you like some CANNED CLAMS WITH THAT, YOU MONSTER?

          • Lord Jim

            I only eat DEHYDRATED CLAMS, bazinga! XD

          • HazooToo

            The only acceptable clams are stripped, breaded and deep fried! Nice try, Alien-In-A-Human-Suit!

          • Lord Jim

            How else do you think I know your so-called President is a former Andromedan biowaste worker? When they noticed that thing growing from his waste-disposal organ, he was quarantined to YOUR planet.

          • HazooToo

            Are you talking about the thing that looks like someone shaved an ape’s genitals, bleached it, and glued it down on one side only?

    • My homemade mac doesn’t use more than 2-3 TBSP. I go a little more if i’m subbing bacon fat for the butter

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

        Eventually Ima make homemade. It *did* seem like a *lot* of butter.

        Still thawing the Thighs so I can make my Chicken-fried Chicken w/ gravy and eggs tomorrow.

    • Lord Jim

      I never use a whole freaking stick. 2 tbsp should suffice.

      • Anna Elizabeth

        Yeah. :D I had the macaroin boiling, poured the milk into a cub, and I was like “a stick of butter?”

  • Duke

    Not the nicest way to end a career.

    Buh-bye!

  • Jeffocaster in the desert

    So NCAA restored their wins, only fined them $60 million which is about two weeks of fund raising, and the town is trying to restore the statue that was taken down. May fucking Joe Paterno rot in hell. These assholes have no idea the damage Paterno, Sandusky and all the other criminals in the cover up caused.

    • OrG

      Even if they did,they wouldn’t care. USAmerica has a very warped sense of what is important.

    • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

      The NCAA is a criminal organization.

      • 3rd only to FIFA and the IOC in criminality

        • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

          Yup.

        • Jeffocaster in the desert

          And don’t forget Armstrong and his band of cycling cheaters.

      • OrG

        Most big corporations are.

      • Courser_Resistance

        But, but, but… SPORTSBALL!!!111!1!1Eleventy

  • Jeffocaster in the desert

    OT. Making pizza tonight. From scratch. Spent the last two days laying a laminate floor. Mrs Jeffo is a trooper and helped with the clean up. And it snowed here in the desert. 4 inches or so. Wet stuff. Not a nice April Fool…….

    Step child in Chicago is jealous. (she can have it)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b17b9d27301d57ea104ff3cf7a0b2ea7722e51063485adc9aa99cca4c231aa1e.jpg

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

      Wow! I got snow here this morning, but it was just a little and melted away already.

      I love making homemade pizza! What kind of crusts do you do? My Mom taught me to make Neapolitan-style cracker-thin crust.

      • Jeffocaster in the desert

        Thin in the NY style. I bake it for 5 minutes at 525 degrees and then transfer directly to a cast iron pizza pan for an additional 5 minutes. Get a beautifully browned crust.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

          Sounds delicious. I think Mom’s recipe pre-bakes them, and after that you put on toppings and bake again. I have to re-check my recipe.

    • PowerRangerCaptainHowdy

      Should you have done it before laying a new floor?

  • Msgr_MΩment
  • Msgr_MΩment
  • Movie Day update: just under mid way through. We’re watching Up In The Air now. Forgot how many funny parts there were in this

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      I loved that movie.

      • I think we’rr watching Singin’ in the Rain next (that was my pick) nope, got that wrong. We’re watching Christine from 2016

  • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

    Just had my first Gin &Tonic of the year. And now it’s off to the liquor store for more gin. Think I’ll pick up some Boodles, because they don’t carry Plymouth any more…:-)

    • snark-lurker

      first glance i read, “–pick up some ‘Boodies’,”

  • calliecallie

    This seems like too heinous of a story for the open thread, but it’s after 7 on Saturday, so maybe this is it.

    Thanks being patient with my short rant the other night, wonketeers. Mom is recovering from her hip surgery, and while she seems disoriented much of the time, today the Doctor (good looking, sweet, middle aged) came in to see her while I was there. He asked “What have you been up to?” and without hesitation she replied, flirtatiously, “Jumping rope.” Got to love that spunky old gal. I hope she heels well and as quickly as she can. She will be 92 on Easter.

    Speaking of which…I was supposed to host my husband’s family (12 people, 5 kids) for Easter (and Mom, of course). I texted our adult nephew (who organizes these things) last night to let him know what had happened with Mom and that we might need a plan B for the holiday. He is in Vegas on vacation with his family and his parents. My sister-in-law then called me to try and cajole me into hosting, because we are in the central location. I ended by saying I’ll know more next week, after they move my mom to rehab. S-I-L is retired nurse, btw. I find this insensitive and annoying, but I am easily irritated just now. (I’m supposed to be out of town for work next weekend, but I’m planning to cancel that gig too. I am confident that my boss will not try to talk me into going anyway. He is very understanding about stuff like this. More understanding that S-I-L, apparently.)

    Thanks for listening. Sorry to be a bore. I’ll come back with politics next time.

    • RobKanC

      I am so sorry. Family members can be real dick sometimes.

    • Jonny On Maui

      Tell SIL to host. Be firm!

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

        Agreed. You have enough on your plate, callie. And don’t worry about sharing, we are here to offer our support. !hugs!

    • HazooToo

      12 people would be too much for me to deal with, even if everyone was perfectly healthy! Tell her that if she wants you to host, you’ll be counting on her to help you out with the heavy lifting.

      • Jukesgrrl

        Oh, no, that never works. Such self-entitled people NEVER do heavy lifting. They just pretend to. One of the chief reasons they want callie to host is she does all the work.

        • HazooToo

          Yeah, well, this time they can lift that barge and tote that bale, or they can eat Kraft Mac n Cheese dry from the box while she orders pizza for the kids only. She’s got enough to deal with, and she needs help.

    • Bill D. Burger
  • calliecallie

    George Takei totally got me with his April Fool’s joke. Such a sucker!

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

      Got me too.

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
    • PowerRangerCaptainHowdy

      Ah, irrelevant Brother Cornel. Whatever happened to him? Hope he gets a bit part in Sense8 season 2.

    • HazooToo

      Why is he calling them Brother?

      • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

        I don’t speak Russian, so?

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      We humans must stick together in the war against the neoliberal robots.

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      They do have a lot in common. Both know the swamp needs drainin’, and both know they are the only men who can do it!! Believe them!

    • Snopes Shop

      FUCK

    • Lord Jim

      Cornel West is full of shit. Trump an authentic human being? Because he’s willing to bellow the bigotry that other people feel in words that have all the semantic content of a bag of hammers? Trump is a fucking cartoon character, he always has been. And if this douchecannon can’t see it, he’s just not looking or he’s dumber than Trump.

  • aktlib101

    Excerpts from a 2011 Business Insider article (requires subscription): “Finally, a rich American destroys the fiction that rich people create the jobs:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/rich-people-do-not-create-jobs-2011-12
    “The most important reason the theory that “rich people create the jobs” is absurd, argues Nick Hanauer, the founder of online advertising company aQuantive, which Microsoft bought for $6.4 billion, is that rich people do not create jobs, even if they found and build companies that eventually employ thousands of people.

    What creates the jobs, Hanauer astutely observes, is a healthy economic ecosystem surrounding the company, which starts with the company’s customers.

    The company’s customers buy the company’s products, which, in turn, creates the need for the employees to produce, sell, and service those products. If those customers go broke, the demand for the company’s products will collapse. And the jobs will disappear, regardless of what the entrepreneur does.”

    So, then, if what creates the jobs in our economy is, in part, “customers,” who are these customers? And what can government policy do to make sure these customers have more money to spend to create demand and, thus, jobs?

    The customers of most companies, Hanauer points out, are ultimately the gigantic middle class — the hundreds of millions of Americans who currently take home a much smaller share of the national income than they did 30 years ago, before tax policy aimed at helping rich people get richer created an extreme of income and wealth inequality not seen since the 1920s.

    The middle class has been pummeled, in part, by tax policies that reward “the 1%” at the expense of everyone else.

    (It has also been pummeled by globalization and technology improvements, which are largely outside of any one country’s control.)

    But, wait, aren’t the huge pots of gold taken home by “the 1%” supposed to “trickle down” to the middle class and thus benefit everyone? Isn’t that the way it’s supposed to work?

    Yes, that’s the way it’s supposed to work.

    Unfortunately, that’s not the way it actually works.

    And Hanauer explains why.

    Hanauer takes home more than $10 million a year of income. On this income, he says, he pays an 11% tax rate. (Presumably, most of the income is dividends and long-term capital gains, which carry a tax rate of 15%. And then he probably has some tax shelters that knock the rate down the rest of the way).

    With the more than $9 million a year Hanauer keeps, he buys lots of stuff. But, importantly, he doesn’t buy as much stuff as would be bought if that $9 million were instead earned by 9,000 Americans each taking home an extra $1,000 a year.

    Why not?

    Because, despite Hanauer’s impressive lifestyle — his family owns a plane — most of the $9+ million just goes straight into the bank (where it either sits and earns interest or gets invested in companies that ultimately need strong demand to sell products and create jobs). For a specific example, Hanauer points out that his family owns 3 cars, not the 3,000 that might be bought if his $9+ million were taken home by a few thousand families.

    If that $9+ million had gone to 9,000 families instead of Hanauer, it would almost certainly have been pumped right back into the economy via consumption (i.e., demand). And, in so doing, it would have created more jobs.

    Hanauer estimates that, if most American families were taking home the same share of the national income that they were taking home 30 years ago, every family would have another $10,000 of disposable income to spend.

    That, Hanauer points out, would have a huge impact on demand — and, thereby job creation.

    It’s time we stopped mouthing the fiction that “rich people create the jobs.”

    Rich people don’t create the jobs.

    Our economy creates jobs.

    We’re all in this together. And until we return to more reasonable tax policies that help the 99% instead of just the 1%, our economy is going to go nowhere.”

  • ⭐️better than you⭐️
  • Snopes Shop
    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

      Yep. I’m officially tired of this Old White Man’s Shit.

      • Snopes Shop

        It will never end, will it?

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

          It certainly seems not. If he isn’t going to help against the GOP and Drumpf, I invite him to STFD and STFU.

        • Ms.MLG on Maui

          No, she will never stop being punished for being a woman who tried to be President. Ever.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        What we’re really missing in this country is the voice of white dudes.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

          Indeed. If only there were moar heard from them, we might get something done.

        • (Major_Major_Major)ly_Pissed

          As a white dude (not old yet), I think you are being a racist sexist bigoty bigot. If we give everyone else rights, we won’t have any of our own…or is that privilege, I forget what with all the red pills I’ve been dropping.

      • Thiazin Red

        Between him and the many pundits who go on about how the democrats really need to abandon everyone else, stop making such a big deal about equal rights, and cater to stupid white men more, I agree.

    • PowerRangerCaptainHowdy

      His 15 minutes are over. Our four, or however many years have barely begun. Thank you, Cookie Monster. Maybe you can learn to comb your fucking hair in retirement.

    • Thiazin Red

      The more I see of him, the more I really dislike him.

      • persistently_resistant_gayby

        Especially after the election.

        The insufferable know-it-all purity dickwad.

        • PowerRangerCaptainHowdy

          Hi sweetie! I gotta run, be good! Or, bad, whichever you prefer.

          • persistently_resistant_gayby

            Hey mate! I’m gona stick with being good (or will I..?)

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω
  • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi
  • Resistance Fighter Astraea

    That neoliberal wimp Tom Perez on the healthcare bill:

    “Because they don’t give a sh*t about people!” he said to a cheering crowd. “This repeal was a massive tax break for the wealthy.”

    Just then the ballroom lights went out and Perez said, “And you know what? You can try and silence our lights, but we will bring your abuses to light.”

    • Snopes Shop

      Awesome, thanks

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      Real liberals, unlike their neoliberal shill enemies, spend their time doing helpful things like bashing Hillary Clinton non-stop just like Republicans.

    • PowerRangerCaptainHowdy

      How dare Democrats elect their own national committee chairman!!!

      • Thiazin Red

        I’ve heard people bitching about the DNC not doing whatever St. Bernie says so much. If he cares so much about the democratic party, he should have stayed in it after he lost.

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          He uses dogwhistles and vague accusations to stir up resentment. That’s what really pisses me off the most. It makes it impossible to have any actual discussions about the directlion of the party or the issues. So they just smear Perez with a label because he isn’t Bernie’s Chosen.

          That’s not how you treat a group you want to work with to change. It’s just going to alienate a huge majority of Democrats.

          • Thiazin Red

            There aren’t substantial policy differences between the two, but not being who Bernie dictated means that Perez is now 100% evil. I wonder how many people who say that now are the same ones who were upset by the choice of Kaine, because Perez was the exciting progressive choice.

            And don’t get me started on Warren. The Berners loved her, and being able to say that their insane Clinton hate wasn’t sexist, by saying that they would love to vote for her. But the second she says that she supports Clinton, shes a sellout neocon.

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            So much this. Being able to produce the name of a female you find acceptable as long as she does exactly what you want her to do is NOT being enlightened about gender equality.

          • PowerRangerCaptainHowdy

            Kind of like what they did with Obama, isn’t it?

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            Yes, it is.

  • Jonny On Maui

    I really need to stop reading the boxes when I eat.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f14b8c246c67b1f8753b8f4f7ce833e71a29d5c9cd4b28dc717b05c4e896c0c8.jpg

    Apparently I’ve been eating Frankencrackers

    • aktlib101

      Turn off the lights, stand in front of a mirror, can you see yourself glowing?

    • RobKanC

      Doesn’t really mean anything outside the anti vaccine crowd.

      • Thiazin Red

        Really, its not like anything we eat is recognizable to its original form.

        • RobKanC

          Nothing is. Corn kernels were really hard and smaller before the aztecs domesticated it. GM is infact necessary in some cases to sustain reliable food sources to a ever growing population.

          • Thiazin Red

            Agreed, especially since the materials to make fertilizer are limited.

    • HazooToo

      Hey, I’ve been eating Frankenfood all my life, and I’m fine! The third eye on my stomach even sees better than the ones on my face!

      • aktlib101

        You want to be funny, but science has created tadpoles with TRANSLPLANTED eyes on their tails, and they can see too ! Wonder if Kellogg was supplying their food also…
        https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170330092841.htm

        • HazooToo

          That is amazing and I can’t wait to see how they apply this kind of science!

          • aktlib101

            It works on mother-in-laws. They all acquire that extra eye in the back of their heads. Or so I am being told.

          • HazooToo

            When do they start handing them out to Mothers? I need mine last Tuesday.

    • RobKanC

      Also since you are in Maui. You should definitely checkout GM papaya. #not-all-gm

    • Jennifer R

      Chances every banana you have ever eaten was genetically engineered.

      • vivian

        What about the ones that ran away?

      • Jonny On Maui

        I’ve got 3 different varieties growing here…

        • Jennifer R

          Oh yeah I forget you live in paradise.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      You should have been suspicious when that cow arrived and had 50 teats.

    • The Wanderer

      The positive thing about that is that Kellogg’s has made crackers that want you to eat them.

  • 3FingerPete

    This comment left on a DailyWire story explains Trumps multidimensional chess strategy:

    “Yes, just listen to his infamous Muslim ban speech again and you can see
    that Trump is inviting the over the top reaction to him. He knows the
    media hates him and if he can get them to punch him everyday with
    craziness then after awhile the punches will lack any power. Watch Rocky
    3, he is getting the media to punch themselves out. Brilliant strategy.”

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
    • BMW

      April Fool’s Day was more fun before I was expecting it at every turn.

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

      “In a world where wooden, zero-affect actors become millionaires, we need Wayne Tracker! This hard-muscled Bull of a man will make Keanu actually have an expression in: “What The Fuck is This Shit!” Only in theatres, coming Christmas.”

    • miss_grundy

      Hey, Keanu is my guilty pleasure!

  • persistently_resistant_gayby

    Ugh, do I have to wake up to these kind of stories… The ones where my mind is screaming in fury…?

    Jesus, dude…

  • Jennifer R

    We should all take a note from our distant cousins down in Paraguay. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/03/31/world/paraguay-unrest-capital/index.html

  • Yr. Gma

    I’m back from Mexico (where they are laughing at us). So is that orange stain still all over the surfaces of the Oval Office?

    • persistently_resistant_gayby

      “Yes Grandma – WE’RE TRYING TO KICK HIM OUT!”

  • persistently_resistant_gayby
    • Snopes Shop
      • Sardonicuss

        Grrrrr….
        People in the electric chair are “energized”.
        You vapid rich bitch.

      • Persistent Demme

        We’re “energized” because we have to be, thanks to idiots like you!
        (Amazing, because some of us have trouble sleeping.)

        Oh, and Susan?
        Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!

      • Yr. Gma

        She is trying so hard to be relevant. Give it up, sister. Your bed has been shat on.

      • SeeTrain65

        Keep talking, Susan, and you’ll earn that STFU Lifetime Achievement Award you so desperately seem to want.

  • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEh3zWQWuEk

    Dance with me!

    ~We gonna light it up
    ~Like it’s Dynamite!

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
  • persistently_resistant_gayby
    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

      “Fight Like a Girl!” works for me :D

  • Thiazin Red

    I’m going to be ambitious and make braised short ribs tomorrow. I love short ribs, and if they’re on the menu at a restaurant thats what I get (I have a similar policy on duck). But I’ve never cooked them before. I’m looking for a recipe that has some sweetness in it, but isn’t all the way into full on barbecue flavor or Korean.

  • fawkedifiknow

    My guess is that this privileged prick never had anything stuck up his ass he didn’t want. Which was never that he didn’t want, if you get my drift.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
    Crayola asked Twitter to name a new crayon color. Twitter responded by roasting Trump.

    Naturally, Twitter users began using the hashtag #NewCrayonColors to propose new shades Crayola could incorporate to fill the hole Dandelion left behind.

    https://twitter.com/WeHearPodcast/status/847793973775273985/photo/1

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I like imPeach

    • Shoto

      Manafort Red

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
    • Thiazin Red

      To be fair some of them, like my great great grandfather, totally were.

  • Chadwells

    Perez is freaking out today.

  • Goposaur

    May he live the rest of his miserable existence, alone, unloved, cold and wet. Wearing uncomfortable clothes, ill-fitting shoes, besieged by IBS in public compounded by unalleviated nausea, pathological phobias for the next 100 years.

    • aktlib101

      Which one of them?

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        AOT,K

      • Goposaur

        all, concurrently

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
  • memzilla Ω
  • Thiazin Red

    I just finished three books fairly quickly and now I have book lock. I just look at the list and can’t make a decision.

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

      Hmm, what are the choices?

      • Thiazin Red

        So many. I’m thinking maybe Atrocity Archives, Story of a New Name or A Gentleman in Moscow.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

          IMHO, A Gentleman in Moscow grabs me the most. I’m really interested in that period of history, Eventually I plan to play miniature Wargames with a White Russian skirmish force.

          • Thiazin Red

            I also really liked his first book Rules of Civility.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi

            I’ll see if I can’t track those down soonish.

          • Thiazin Red

            Rules of Civility was great.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            I love book recommendations, and my new apartment is only a mile from the library. :)

          • Thiazin Red

            Me too, especially if its something I’ve never heard of.

          • Lord Jim

            That sounds, from the Amazon description, like a good book.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            Indeed. I’d enjoy some good historical novels. I’ve been reading a lot of history lately.

        • (Major_Major_Major)ly_Pissed

          Atrocity Archives are a must read. Phe-damn-nomenal

          • Thiazin Red

            I loved Neptune’s Brood, and I like the Merchant Princes, but somehow I’ve never read his best known series.

    • vivian

      Randomness is your friend.

  • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance
  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
  • Nounverb911

    The science of CATS!
    Turns out your cat has a thing for you.

    https://twitter.com/NYMag/status/848320554541223936

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      Yay, they love me back!

  • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance
    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      This week it came out that the presidential son-in-law is wanted for testimony in connection to an FBI investigation of a bank implicated in Russian money laundering.

    • Lord Jim

      Thus far, Pres. Trump has tasked his daughter’s husband — a government
      neophyte with no previous policy or legislative experience — with
      solving the crisis in the Middle East and overseeing the U.S.
      relationships with China, Canada and Mexico.

      Please JESUS tell me this is an April Fool’s joke.

      • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

        On the seventh day, he’ll rest.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      These guys are “the best people” in the same sense of Robert Baratheon’s small council less Eddard Stark.

  • IOnlyLikeCats

    Daisy and I are looking at swimsuits because she doesn’t have one and my response was “you live in california????” and the cuts and colors she likes aren’t in style in her price range and I got sick of trying to find any that weren’t horrible I told her when she finds one she likes I’ll give her money towards it. When did one pieces and tankinis get so expensive and so hidious?

    • Yr. Gma

      California is more than one long beach. (Or Long Beach, hehe.)

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        I know, it’s also home to yummy food and fun theme parks. But mostly it’s just beach.

    • Shanzgood

      I got a cute tankini with a skirt bottom from Lands’ End ages ago. It wasn’t cheap but it’s held up well. I also got a cute be-bop one-piece with a skirt more recently from Amazon.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/70ecd7df05471a8c6bac43d2535c93328a366ca5b39dc87ba9ecc7f2c097249e.png

    • C4TWOMAN

      It’s been years since I shopped for such things. I’m a minimal swimmer–don’t do pools, prefer ocean or river and wear what ever exercise gear is comfortable, usually with shorts. But when I did, I was appalled that I couldn’t find something basic in black. I had to by something with bullshit “decorative” crap around the neckline.
      WTF? How hard is a single piece in BLACK?

      These days I might be interested in an aquatard if I was more of a water baby–those things make you look like a superhero…
      *grins*

  • SeeTrain65

    Serious question: Is Alfred L. Lord related to Jeffrey Lord?

    Because that would explain quite a lot.

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      Also, why are their last names Lord?

      • Iam Reading

        Make them kind of a natural target when the serfs finally rise up doesn’t it?

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      The song “My Sweet Lord” was written about Jeffrey Lord. True fact. George Harrison had a man crush on him.

  • msanthropesmr

    RICK AND MORTY IS BACK!~!!!!
    RICK AND MORTY IS BACK!!!!

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    The Inconvenient Ten Plagues: An Epic Alternative History Mashup

    The following is a translation of a scroll recently discovered in a desert cave. Experts, unable to determine its authorship, believe it less a factual history than a myth, which, as the Ancient Greeks noted, is not something that didn’t happen but something that happens over and over again.

    • Anna Elizabeth

      I like this.

  • Wookie Monster

    As a Penn State Alumnus, I just want to say:

    Fuck this guy!
    And while we’re at it, Fuck Graham Spanier, Fuck Joe Paterno, and Fuck everyone else who helped cover up Sandusky’s crimes!

    Thank you.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    Anyone need a little cheering up?

    “Fox News and Bill O’Reilly have paid out around $13 million in settlements to five women who accused O’Reilly of sexual harassment or verbal abuse, the New York Times reports. The women, who all either worked for O’Reilly or appeared on his top-rated television program, “complained about a wide range of behavior, including verbal abuse, lewd comments, unwanted advances and phone calls in which it sounded as if Mr. O’Reilly was masturbating, according to documents and interviews,” per the Times investigation. The women were given the payouts in exchange for agreeing not to pursue litigation or make their allegations public. Some of the settlements were completed in secret, and two happened after former Fox News chief Roger Ailes was dismissed following his own sexual harassment scandal last year. The earliest O’Reilly settlement happened in 2002.”

    21st Century Fox, Fox News’s parent company, indicated in a statement to the Times that they are continuing to stand behind O’Reilly

    HE’S INNOCENT I TELLZ YA!!!!
    From Bill-O’s very own pie hole:
    “Just like other prominent and controversial people. I’m vulnerable to lawsuits from individuals who want me to pay them to avoid negative publicity. In my more than 20 years at Fox News Channel, no one has ever filed a complaint about me with the Human Resources Department, even on the anonymous hotline. But most importantly, I’m a father who cares deeply for my children and who would do anything to avoid hurting them in any way. And so I have put to rest any controversies to spare my children. The worst part of my job is being a target for those who would harm me and my employer, the Fox News Channel. Those of us in the arena are constantly at risk, as are our families and children. My primary efforts will continue to be to put forth an honest TV program and to protect those close to me.”

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/usd13m-paid-to-women-who-accused-bill-oreilly-of-harassment.html

    • Wookie Monster

      How does Bill-O the Clown still have a job?

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        He’s innocent! Also, all those bitches are lying, just like they were with Trump and Cosby.

      • SeeTrain65

        Caucasian republican penis owner.

        • Wookie Monster

          How come that didn’t save Ailes?

          • TJ Barke

            Behind the scenes type of asshole. Not a frontman with a ton of inbred fans.

          • SeeTrain65

            The sheer level of Ailes’ scumbaggery was too great to ignore.

          • Wookie Monster

            But $13 million worth of scumbaggery is hard to ignore. If I had cost my employer that much in settlements, I’d be cleaning out my desk.

            And this isn’t even his first time!

          • TJ Barke

            Depends on how much revenue his show generates.

          • SeeTrain65

            TJ has this right. Ailes was out of sight and out of mind. No connection with their idiot audience. O’Really is out front and has a personality (barely). Ailes was easy to dismiss. O’Really won’t be that easy to get rid of.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Bill O paid $10 million, and Fox only paid $3 million. That’s like coffee money to them.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Murdoch’s sons didn’t like him, plus he was making a ton of money, and had turned in to a huge pain in their ass. Bill O is still making them money.

      • TJ Barke

        Because his little sheep either think that:
        A. Those bitches are lying & Fake News! etc.
        B. Yeah! Misogyny is awesome!

        • snark-lurker

          B.

        • C4TWOMAN

          Why not both?

      • Shoto

        He brings in more revenue than it costs Fox Fearotainment to keep him on the payroll.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        He’s producing revenue. All that matters.

        • C4TWOMAN

          Profit is like next to Mom, guns and apple pie with those people.

      • HogeyeGrex

        He’s very good at telling awful people their awfulness makes them wonderful. Curiously, it’s a very marketable talent.

        • Wookie Monster

          You just described every host on Fox.

    • SeeTrain65

      To be honest, jail time and a loss of employment would make me happier.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Fox just renewed his contract, which was set to expire this year. If these dumb hussies would just smile a little bit more, and understand that boys will be boys, they would be doing a lot better financially.

        • snark-lurker

          i donut knoe–1/5 of $13m?

      • Social Justice Wolverine

        Colin Kaepernick can’t get signed to another team because he stands up for black Civil Rights, but this pompous, abusive, douchenozzle gets to stay on air.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          What do you snowflakes not understand about a highly rated “news” show?

    • Social Justice Wolverine

      I swear, Bill O’Reilly is like the real world version of Frollo in the Hunchback of Norte Dame. All sanctimonious and righteous outside but inside he’s full of scandal, hatred and corruption.

      • Wookie Monster

        So, like everyone else at Fox.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I loved that woman who worked at Fox who said “they tell you it’s like a family when really it’s more like the Playboy Mansion.”

        Honestly, I know some people here disagree with me, but I can never get too worked up about women who find that gross Republican men who hate women, turn out to be disgusting, sexist pigs, in the workplace. I guess the women who took jobs at Fox thought that the face eating leopard TV station, wouldn’t eat their face, or something. Any woman who is a Republican is an idiot, and that includes my own mother. I love the woman, but politically, she is A idiot.

        • SeeTrain65

          Stay out of the grotto.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Lulz, you couldn’t PAY me to go to the Playboy Mansion.

          • Wookie Monster

            Would definitely not touch anything or sit on anything.

          • snark-lurker

            me too & i a strait guy

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            I’m a lesbian, and have no desire to go there.

          • marxalot

            I’m into women, but I’m not into that.

        • Social Justice Wolverine

          I have to admit, after hearing about Tomi Lahren getting suspended for being pro-choice, it was hard for me to sympathize with her after all the other crap she has said.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            They’re horrible to other people, and then when something offensive gets done to them, it’s suddenly terrible. My feeling is that if you decided to lay down with sexist dogs, don’t be too surprised when you wake up with herpes (and fleas).

          • shivaskeeper

            Why would you sympathize with her. She voluntarily worked at an organization that is adamantly anti-abortion. It’s part of their stock in trade. There is no deviation allowed.

            That fact that she said she was pro-choice only because small “L” libertarians say the government shouldn’t be involved is nice, but she knew it would get her in trouble at ANY right wing news outlet. It’s not like it was some kind of secret clause she had never heard of.

          • SeeTrain65

            Unless she’s really as dumb as a post … which is an option I’m never giving up on when it comes to “Tammy.”

        • Ms.MLG on Maui

          There’s a big difference between not being able to muster sympathy or lose sleep over it, and thinking the women “deserved it”. I can’t really pity them, but I also know no one deserves to be sexually harassed, and no man deserves to have the power to do it at will and get away with it.

          • C4TWOMAN

            If for no other reason he WILL do it to someone not sucked into his political party.

          • Shanzgood

            But that makes it sound like they don’t deserve it but everyone else DOES.

          • C4TWOMAN

            Well that looks like a potential quagmire…

            I think we can both agree no one deserves it. I was just addressing the fact we’re stopping predators, regardless of whom they victimize.

          • shivaskeeper

            ^^This.

          • snark-lurker

            it ain’t black & white for me too neither

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Yes, you summed it up exactly. I don’t think they deserved it, and wouldn’t wish it on anyone (maybe Ann Coulter?), but I think when you help to foster a sexist, misogynist agenda, don’t be surprised when it comes back and bites you on YOUR ass.

          • shivaskeeper

            Also ^^this.

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            Exactly. People who live their lives with zero sympathy for others don’t make for sympathetic characters themselves. I still despise what happened to them, and wish it hadn’t. :(

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            You’d think it would make them be embarrassed to be Reublican, but it didn’t.

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            I’m past believing that’s possible for most of them. I know people hate to admit when they’re wrong, but Jesus Christ…

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            I saw an interview with Gretchen Carlson where she basically tried to dodge the question about whether Republicans are inherently sexist and misogynistic. She did mention that she’ll be speaking to women’s groups – probably Phyllis Schlafly’s Eagle Forum.

        • C4TWOMAN

          It’s less about supporting these particular women, and more about protecting public safety by stopping these predators. If that helps.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            I’d like to do some things with votes to Gretchen Carlson that aren’t fit to print, so yeah, I can’t support her. Does that make me despise Bill O’Reilly any less? Nope. Would I like to see him and Roger Ailes behind bars? Ayup. Keep in mind these are the same pigs (men and women alike) who wanted to lynch Bill Clinton for having consensual affairs with Gennifer Flowers and Monica Lewinsky. It always bothers me that even Democrats think Bill Clinton did something horrible. People forget that Monica Lewinsky never was going to go public with her affair with him. It was Linda Tripp (a Republicunt) who befriended Lewinsky, and then secretly recorded her, who caused the whole thing to become public. Yet people think Bill Clinton is the same as Trump, O’Reilly, Roger Ailes, Bill Cosby, etc…

          • C4TWOMAN

            At the time of the Lewinsky scandal it was so chaotic and crazy, and I had no frame of reference to have an informed opinion,so I basically ignored it. Over the years I put together the pieces, but I didn’t know Tripp recorded Lewinsky without her knowledge.

            That’s just sleazy crap. Was she ever charged for that? State laws vary, but recording people without consent is generally agreed to be a shitty move, unless, you know a REAL crime was at stake…

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            She was guilty of invasion of privacy, but got immunity in exchange for testimony. From Wikipedia:
            “Tripp’s action in secretly recording Lewinsky’s confidential phone calls about her relationship with the President caused a sensation with their links to the earlier Jones v. Clinton lawsuit and with the disclosing of notably intimate details. Tripp claimed that her motives were purely patriotic, and she was able to avoid a wiretap charge in exchange for handing in the tapes. She then claimed that her firing from the Pentagon at the end of the Clinton administration was vindictive, while the administration claimed it to be a standard routine.”

            According to Tripp, in Breitbart (so you KNOW it’s true!), Bill Clinton has had 1000s of affairs.

          • shivaskeeper

            They didn’t understand consent then and they don’t understand it now. They take what they want or pressure others into it so actual consent for them is a moot point. Of course they think everyone is just like them as well.

        • HogeyeGrex

          “they tell you it’s like a family when really it’s more like the Playboy Mansion.”

          They don’t mention that the family they mean is the Manson Family.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Lulz, I was thinking the Borgias, but I like yours better.

    • memzilla Ω

      Let us be clear, you oleaginous fuckweasel. “Human Resources” exists only to shield the corporation from liability, and IS IN NO WAY inclined to address legitimate employee complaints.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I’m sure that at Fox News, they make it pretty clear to women that talking to HR is pretty much a waste of time.

      • Shoto

        As a general matter, HR types are sociopaths, or sociopaths-in-training.

        • C4TWOMAN

          I have met exceptions, but exploitive charming people do seem to gravitate into this kind of position.

          • Shoto

            There are exceptions but in the main, I’ve found the assertion to be pretty much factual.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Well, he should know, because he was there!….

    • HazooToo

      He protects his children by beating their mother in front of them.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        He was just teaching them how the world is!

        • HazooToo

          Yes, full of bitter, angry, despicable men like their father.

      • Wookie Monster

        His is scum.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Well, when you put that kind of negative spin on it, it does sound kind of bad.

        • Sheepshagger

          “Applied percussive relationship advice” ? How’s that?

    • Hutch

      Several gals saying, “obviously masterbating.” Sweet Jesus, I really hate Bill O’Shitface.

      • Wookie Monster

        While rubbing a 🥙 on himself.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Things I’d rather do than listen to Bill O’Reilly masturbate:
        1) Poke myself in the eye with a fork
        2) Get a colonoscopy
        3) Read anything Ayn Rand ever wrote

    • Shanzgood

      I love how his “statement” makes it sound like all those lying bitches also hate their children and families.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Why do you hate children, and America?

        • Sheepshagger

          They smell funny. And they’re always whinging- “feed me, let me out of the cupboard, I wanna go home”. Such a burden.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Look what they did to that poor Jerry Sandusky fellow! A good family man who brought a bunch of foster children, sure, they were all boys but that’s irrelevant, in to his own home. How do the ungrateful, little wretches thank him? By telling everyone what he did to them, that’s how.

  • Social Justice Wolverine
  • Jennifer R

    Had to go out again, to another store for high % rubbing alcohol (70% is garbage for cleaning cannabist paraphernalia), and I went to get a cheap pizza too. Cashier at the self checkout was making eyes at me. Felt much better than before.

    • Anna Elizabeth

      Good for you Darlin’! ~hugs~

      • Jennifer R

        I ~might~ be kinda emotionally volatile.

        • Anna Elizabeth

          I hear you. :) It’s never easy for long, huh?

          The other day, some Christ-cunt misgendered me, and when I politely corrected her, she said she’d pray for me to “stop hiding from the lord”.

          I didn’t leave my apartment again for 30 hours.

          • marxalot

            While I support trans day of visibility (yesterday), most of the time I just wanna hide.
            Even as that gets less and less possible.
            But hey, Netflix has Wynona Earp now.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            Man do people suck.

            But Wynona Earp rockz.

          • marxalot

            I am SUPER EXCITED about this development.

          • Puck

            “And i’ll light a pentagram in black candles in the name of the dark lord satan for you” is a decent response imo. Stupid? Probably. Petty? Oh, definitely. But those people piss me off. I don’t mind discussing religion, but I don’t care for the whole pushing your belief on me. Nothing but a lack of respect. Double for you with the misgender thing.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            :D I’m thinking about going to the Thrift store – which is where it happened – in Goth gear and Black lipstick

          • marxalot

            “Eat me” t shirt.

          • Puck

            I’d say do it. “You be you” is about the closest I have to a live motto lol.

          • Jennifer R

            Might I suggest a johnny the homicidal maniac shirt?

          • Anna Elizabeth

            I like that idea! XD

          • janecita

            This story is for you and Jennifer. This is what true courage looks like.
            https://www.good.is/articles/world-war-two-vet-transgender

          • Anna Elizabeth

            That’s amazing! I’m so glad she can be herself finally. :) Brought tears to my eyes.

          • janecita

            I know! I hope that she lives 20 more years!

          • Anna Elizabeth

            Me too. :) What a life.

          • janecita

            You should have told her “The Lord knows me very well. I don’t need to hide from him because he loves me just the way I am. He thinks I’m perfect.”

          • SeeTrain65
          • janecita

            I always loved that song:-)

          • janecita

            Just because Depeche Mode rocks!
            https://youtu.be/u1xrNaTO1bI

          • Anna Elizabeth
          • janecita

            I never heard his version before, thanks!

          • Anna Elizabeth
          • janecita

            My husband likes that one:-)

          • Anna Elizabeth

            I’m not a huge fan of Country, but Johnny Cash was so epic at everything he did.

          • janecita
          • Anna Elizabeth

            That’s the next one on my playlist, followed by:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA

          • Puck

            Judge not lest ye be judged may work? Probably not though. Quoting back scripture usually just makes em leave in a huff… that actually may be a plus though…

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            That doesn’t sound very Christian-like. Everyone knows that God wants you to judge other people, and treat them like shit. It’s in the Bible, look it up!

          • janecita

            It’s pathetic that as an atheist, I’m more Christ like than the great majority of Christians that I’ve met.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            For YEARS, I thought I knew more of what was in the Bible, than did most Christians. There was a study done a few years ago, that found that most atheist/agnostics DID know more about the contents of the Bible than people who identified themselves as Christians. I felt very vindicated. I’ve said for years “you’re either a good Christian, or a good Republican, you can’t be both, since they’re mutually exclusive.”

          • snark-lurker

            human beans can be the worst critters Dog ever made

          • janecita

            A human “bean” would be terrifying!

          • snark-lurker

            i sure never eat’em

          • janecita

            I’d run away from that fucker!

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            I’ve always thought the world should be run by Labrador Retrievers. We’d all spend our days basking in the sun, chasing balls, and giving/getting belly rubs.

          • snark-lurker

            belly rubs? i can haz a bully rub?

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Whose a good boy?

          • BrianW

            Tell the crone that since the Lord is all that omni-stuff you, in theory, CAN’T hide from him and she needs to brush up on her Bibleing.

          • Picabo

            Hi Anna. The verbal Taekwondo response is “bless your heart.” Practice it in a southern accent if you can. Works every time.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            I like that! :) I’ve had a good day today, but Jennifer’s has been mixed. I’m afraid in my attempt to sympathize, I have taken over the conversation, and I apologize for that.

          • Jennifer R

            It’s quite fine; I have been indisposed for the last 30 minutes or so.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            Oh, that’s good. I was worried I was being too grabby. :)

          • Jennifer R

            It’s too late to try to walk today, so I am not going to have to do anything else tonight besides more push ups. So I can just pretend there isn’t an outside my walls.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            I hear that. :) I did my walk, and a bunch of laundry, so I’m just sitting now drinking milk in my Pinkie Pie mug. :)

          • Kiri the Unicorn

            This is why you should have a banana-cream pie with you at all times.

          • punching nazis really helps.

          • Anna Elizabeth
    • therblig

      read that as “cannibalist paraphernalia” and thought, “well of course you’d use alcohol to clean it”.

    • Puck

      You use alcohol to clean your glass? I just scrape, guess i’m gross like that lol.

      • Jennifer R

        Yeah, it’ll eventually shatter otherwise. An ex of mine used an old scalpel to scrape one of my vape bowls and it shattered in about a month.

        • Puck

          Ah, so do you just vape then? I was more thinking of pipes. I use a combo of safety pins and those street sweeper blades you find on the ground. Those are awesome for scraping glass cause its metal and already grounded down with a curved edge.

          • Jennifer R

            Yeah, it’s way easier on me to vape, and doesn’t leave long term smells.

    • Anna Elizabeth

      I admire you for going back out again today. :) It isn’t easy, you did great.

      • Jennifer R

        Thank you. It was compounded by not having my headset. I need noise to forget other people are around.

        • Anna Elizabeth

          I’ve been afraid to try that, with traffic.

          • Jennifer R

            Well usually my roommate drives, but people are good on not driving on the actual sidewalks here. I just need the headset to deal with being inside the store. There were so many people at the first market and it was disorienting and my mouth gets dry just trying to think how to describe it.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            ~hugs~ I hear that. Most days I’m OK, sometimes I get super anxious when I’m out, and a few days I just hide.

    • TJ Barke

      Lucky duck.

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      I find acetone to be a better solvent.

      • Jennifer R

        I would rather inhale a tiny bit of iso than a tiny bit of acetone.

        • Kiri the Unicorn

          Well yeah, there’s the vapor hazard. Rauchen ist verboten, und gefahrlich!

          • Jennifer R

            I combusted some ABV in it by accident so all the glass was fouled, but the taste never gets out all the way without using it.

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      Oh hey, lil late here, but if you put your piece in alcohol (even 70% & it doesn’t have to be fully submerged) & zap it in the microwave for half a min (don’t worry, Obama’s down) it’ll come super clean w almost no effort. Might have to zap it twice if its really dirty, but you can use the same alcohol.

      Glad you had better results venturing out this time. :)

      • Jennifer R

        these bowls come with a heat wrap on the outside of the top so that isn’t a good idea. (many many years ago on a black friday sale me and my roommate went in on a https://arizer.com/extreme-q/ for like 60 bucks each.)

        • Prof. T. Green Bastard

          Is that… Does it come w a remote control? That is damn fancy!

          • Jennifer R

            Yes it does come with a remote. Because it fills those oven turkey bags in a closed system it’s a bit more cash efficient, and thanks to a low amazon price it has actually paid for itself.

    • Shanzgood

      So that’s where all my rubbing alcohol went.

      • Jennifer R

        I only bought 1 bottle, rite aid usually has it.

        • Shanzgood

          My son used iyrs up cleaning his…stuff.

  • Iam Reading

    So, is everyone with the last name of Lord an asshile, or is it just Jeffrey and this guy?

    Maybe it’s just me. As a socialist and an atheist I have a problem with “lords” in general.

    • Anna Elizabeth

      Jack Lord was going to be the Captain on Star Trek until he demanded 50% ownership of the show. Roddenberry said “I think Jack takes his last name too literally.”

      So, yes? They all are assholes.

      • SeeTrain65

        Being fair, I would have loved to have heard, “Space, The Final Frontier. Be There. Aloha.”

        • Anna Elizabeth

          “Book ’em, Spocko”.

          • SeeTrain65

            I AM DEAD.

      • Iam Reading

        Cool. Thanks for that. I had no idea and I love that series to this day

        • Anna Elizabeth

          We Reach! :D I’m the Trekkie-Grrl of all Trekkies.

          I think the stuff about Jack Lord was in Shatner’s “Star Trek Memories”, and in one of the Roddenberry biographies.

    • SeeTrain65

      I recall reading something to that effect down thread, typed by a guy whose avatar is an Airbus upside down.

      Great minds, and all.

      • Iam Reading

        I love people like us!

    • Serai 1

      I don’t know. I liked Hawaii 5-0 when I was a kid.

  • msanthropesmr

    RICK AND MORTY WAS OK

  • tehbaddr

    May he and his sprogeny eventually suffer the worst!

  • marxalot

    Fuck’s sake. What a cock.

  • Nounverb911
  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
    • TJ Barke

      Those are thought bubbles…

      • snark-lurker

        details details

      • Sister the Resister

        Little known fact: QEII and Bond have mastered telepathic communication

      • msanthropesmr

        NERRRRRRRRRRRD

        • TJ Barke

          You wanna go?

          • msanthropesmr

            We can rumble about why I can’t stand Doom(2016) and GTA V

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Just a short unpaid announcement:

    GO DUCKS!

  • Amelia Resists and Persists

    I miss the good old days of late 2015 when I wasn’t severely annoyed every time Bernie Sanders opened his mouth.

    If, after EVERYTHING that’s happening right now, Democrats still can’t pull their shit together and take the House next year, it will be on him.

    • One of the things I see from Bernie, and it’s because he was never a member of the Party until late 2015, is that he has zero understanding of how a national party is organized. It’s a common problem with those who never bother to get active in their local party. The reality is that both of major parties are bottom up organizations, not top down. That means it’s the local party organizations (town, city, county) that do the work of finding candidates, getting them on the ballot, and also electing a state chair and vice-chair. Who are members of the DNC. The DNC doesn’t tell the local parties who to run, or to be honest, give them a lot of money. So yelling at what “The Party” should do just means you’re wasting time and effort.

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      I feel like he’s trying to shove his views down my throat, and I SHARE MOST OF HIS VIEWS. He’s like what Republicans think MSNBC is.

      • marxalot

        When preaching to the choir, don’t act like they’re the unconverted. It pisses the altos off, and they turn the whole ensemble against you. And you deserve it!

      • Amelia Resists and Persists

        It’s just, he obviously has a platform and a devoted audience and he could be using it to call people to action, to pull the party together, but he’s using it to criticize Hillary repeatedly and carve a completely unnecessary wedge in the party he’s NOT EVEN OFFICIALLY IN, and it makes me want to shake him.

        • aktlib101

          Hillary should be criticized. She made mistakes, like ignoring to campaign in the Rust belt. And she lost. We need to learn from this loss.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Didn’t she win those states in the primaries? And campaign pretty hard there?

          • aktlib101

            Sure, and for good reason. But that did not help with Donald. His lies were more powerful, the hatred deeper, plus misogyny, Russians, faux news (whatever reasons) and she lost. And we did too. We need to make sure it does not happen again

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            So you’re admitting it wasn’t her fault and still blaming her? How… how does that work? Also are you suggesting we don’t choose women candidates? See response above.

          • aktlib101

            No, it is not what I am saying. There were many reasons, as listed, but her fault too, or her campaign strategy, or both. And I was pro-Hillz against Sanders in the primaries. I liked Sanders’ progressive ideas but was sure Hillz would make mincemeat of Trump.

          • Serai 1

            I don’t understand how you can blame the shitheaded prejudices of voters on her. The people who voted for Trump were NEVER going to vote for her. Do you get that? You’re just looking for reasons to blame Hillary for the way things turned out, when the evidence is mounting daily that it didn’t have much to do at all with what she did or didn’t do.

          • Serai 1

            Oh, so now the problem isn’t that she ignored them, which she didn’t, but that Trump was too crazy for any positive campaigning on Hillary’s part to be effective? That’s hardly her fault. She was not in control of Trump’s insanity.

          • boyblue122

            She campaigned tons in PA , way more than drumpf and lost…was the rest of the rust belt going to matter w/o PA

          • ⭐️better than you⭐️

            That thing about “ignoring the Rust belt” isn’t actually true.

            FFS.

          • jowgajen

            I called the damn rust belt for DAYS AND DAYS. We did not ignore the rust belt.

          • Serai 1

            Drop the talking points. That was never true.

      • Serai 1

        He never talks to anyone. He always scolds. It’s incredibly off-putting to be told that I, a working class person all my life, am what’s wrong with politics because I’m a Democrat and don’t have a problem with that. He’s just SO FUCKING TONE DEAF.

        • OrdinaryJoe

          Mr. Sanctimonious.

      • It was Bernie’s voters that turned me off originally. I am pretty well convinced at this point that the Bernie Bro phenomenon was amplified by Russian interference, but it was a real thing on its own. Some of those were real people that I knew, so I’m certain they weren’t all Russian bots. They reminded me of the Ron Paul crowd and turned me right off. But I still would have been cool with Bernie himself — early on, at least.

        Then at some point, Bernie started sounding like a Bernie Bro. And since the election ended he’s been just plain obnoxious. I don’t care if he has some good ideas anymore. There has to be someone else with the same kind of good ideas who isn’t going to throw everything else good about the party out the window.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          Did you mean: Elizabeth Warren (who as bonus does not drink her own koolaid and can work with others)

          • If Elizabeth Warren can bring in the Bernie voters without abandoning civil rights and women’s issues and so on, then I will be 1000% behind her.

            I am really just asking for Dems to yes, do better on economic justice, but without abandoning (and with improving on, where applicable) those social justice issues that are actually crucial to economic justice for people who aren’t straight white men. I think there are probably plenty of both known and unknown Dems who understand this concept. But Bernie Sanders plainly does not.

          • Serai 1

            I don’t know. Remember how they turned on her when she backed Hillary? That certainly put the lie to all their protestations that their choice wasn’t about Hillary being a woman.

          • I do remember. I think those people would probably turn on her again in a hot minute, too. But it’s a cult of personality thing for them. No one but Bernie is really going to make them happy. I don’t know what to do about that, but I don’t think Bernie should get to be the face and voice of the Dems because of tantrumy purity ponies.

    • aktlib101

      Heh, I had to google and check what happened. So, is it about the speech Sanders gave in Boston yesterday? From CNN:
      http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/31/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-boston-rally/
      “”It wasn’t that Donald Trump won the election, it was that the Democratic Party lost the election,” Sanders added.
      He ran through Democratic losses in recent years — checking off the Republican-controlled House, Senate, governor’s offices and state legislatures — before saying that Republicans are “a right-wing extremist party who has an agenda that most Americans soundly and roundly disagree with.”
      “How in God’s name do they win elections?” Sanders said. “And the reason is, in my view, that the time is long overdue for fundamental restructuring of the Democratic Party. We need a Democratic Party which is not the party of the liberal elite but a party of the working class of this country.
      “We need a party which is a grassroots party, a party where candidates are talking to working people — not spending their time raising money from the wealthy and the powerful.”
      Where is he wrong? The Dems need to serve the interests of the people, not the rich donors, that is what the Repubs do. And yes, Dems need to define a solid platform and unite behind it.

      • Serai 1

        Well, it kinda depends on what he means by the working class. I’m not particularly interested in throwing my lot in with racists and xenophobes and skinheads, thanks.

        • aktlib101

          Whether racists or not, the white working class has the same problems with health and education and a decent life like everyone else. They are just easier duped by faux news, and live in the past. Which is why, to prevent another disaster, they need to be specifically targeted by the Dems, to convince at least part of them, that voting Rs is agains their best interests. Dems need to start winning and they need 50% of votes to do so

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            So what you’re saying is, pick white straight male candidates and target white straight males. How about… no.

          • aktlib101

            Nope, it is not. I am saying, find campaign platforms, slogans, whatever (I am not a psychologist) that catch their attention and convinces them. Some of them.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            The only thing that will catch them is racism/sexism. Because that’s what they’ve admitted (see their main policy issues).

          • Panika MCD

            again: how many campaigns have you worked on?

          • Serai 1

            So we should start bending over backwards to attract voters who don’t agree with our principles? How exactly are we supposed to do that without abandoning those principles? I really don’t get what you’re trying to accomplish here.

          • Or we could not pander to racists.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            And not give a pass to the media for focusing on ad hominem attacks without talking about her policies.

          • And without talking about her voters! From primary season to now, I’ve seen a zillion thinkpieces and television specials about understanding the Sanders voters and the Trump voters. You know who I haven’t seen endlessly analyzed? The Clinton voters. The people who really liked her, who actually listened to what she was proposing and liked that, who weren’t interested in what Sanders was selling or what Trump was selling. There were 3 million MORE of her voters who basically got screwed, and no one seems remotely interested in what they thought prior to the election or what they think now.

            Why would that be, I wonder?

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Some of us aren’t white/don’t identify as men, so clearly we have absolutely nothing to add to the conversation.

          • Bingo. Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million, Sanders lost the primaries by… what was it? 2 million or so? No one’s asking what they can do better to bring the freaking majority into their camp. I wouldn’t really expect Trumpers to ask that question, but the fact that the Sanders people never seem to have considered it — well, it says something to me.

          • Left Coast Tom

            Of course Clinton had a lot of proposals related to health, education, and a decent life. And, here in CA she improved on Obama’s 23% win with a 30% win. Our problem is that the Rust Belt has too many voters who didn’t give a shit about those issues.

          • aktlib101

            Sure, so let’s target them next time too, find smart campaign issues that can turn some in favor of the Dems

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Target them how, exactly? They didn’t care about her renewable energy jobs or economic positions (not when they could vote for the guy who wanted to build the wall anyway). I’d love to hear your thoughts.

          • Left Coast Tom

            You said, above, that they hate immigrants, education, and science.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Their comments keep saying opposing things and I am confused for them.

          • Serai 1

            Troll. The one that sound “reasonable” can be the worst ones.

          • Panika MCD

            exactly how many campaigns have you worked on?

          • Serai 1

            You keep repeating the same crap without actually saying anything. Do you have any ideas or not? Or are you just here to harangue people about not behaving the way you think they should?

          • Panika MCD
      • Basically, it’s code for “white people.” The other thing is that the Democrats do serve the interests of the people, just not always as “pure” as he would like it. Here’s a reality check: Politics cost money. Even Bernie knows that, and goodness knows, he’s done his fair share of schmoozing with the wealthy and looking after corporate interests when they just happen to be located in … Vermont.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        It kind of sounds like working class means white people.

        • Panika MCD

          even if it’s mostly POCs.

      • Amelia Resists and Persists

        It’s the “unite behind it” part he’s having/cultivating a problem with. He split the party and created a young, white portion with an exact definition of how liberal Democrats should be and a hatred for the established, aka experienced, members of the party. And every time he rails against the party, the liberal elite, what have you, he’s making the split harder to close.

        • aktlib101

          Look, this is not difficult: the Dems have been for many election cycles equaled to Wall Street and elitism. In Wall Street’s pockets, etc. Right? Why? Repubs are more pro-Wall Street and much more anti-people than Dems. How is it possible that in this day and age the “little people” still elect Republicans that will hurt them? And, by reflection, us too? How did Hillz lose? The Dems have played the “republican-light” party themes and lost. The average people that elected Donald hate immigrants, hate education, hate science and BELIEVE that Repubs will help them regain some long lost past. It is the Dems job to target these people too, and gain back some of them. We don’t need convincing, but they do, no matter what BS they believe.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            How was anything that Hillary said Republican lite?

          • persistently_resistant_gayby

            THIS ^^.

            Please point out to me where Hillz has done anything that is Republican-lite. She acquiesced ON EVERY GODDAMN THING according to the will of voters.

          • Panika MCD
          • persistently_resistant_gayby

            NO NO.

            The answer to combating stupid ISN’T TO EMBRACE STUPID WILLINGLY. These folks WERE NEVER VOTING FOR THE DEMOCRATS EVER.

            You delude yourself thinking otherwise.

          • aktlib101

            Well, they did for Obama, in larger percentages. Why? So not all of them are a block of racist magma.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Um… Actually, Obama had to be literally spotless (we are talking near Jesus levels here) to be voted for. Hillary had to be overqualified, put out policies and laws ready to go to the Senate RIGHT NOW, and they still wouldn’t talk about anything but her voice or perceived scandals. I think you are confused about how racism/sexism works.

          • I don’t think there are as many Obama-Trump voters as people think. Consider this:

            “A New York Times analysis of YouGov data finds: “For every one voter nationwide who reported having voted for Obama in 2012 and Trump in 2016, at least five people voted for Trump after not having voted four years ago. Clinton attracted substantially fewer 2012 nonvoters, the data show.” YouGov data suggest that only 7 percent of Obama voters flipped to support Trump, and the real number could be even less.” http://www.salon.com/2016/11/27/obama-to-trump-voters-are-not-a-myth-mdash-but-theyre-also-not-the-real-story/

            In other words, Trump brought out people who normally don’t vote, which is another problem, but that helped him a lot more than Obama voters flipping.

            The ones that did flip are probably easy enough to explain. For one thing, Obama still had a penis. If 2016 taught me anything, it’s that we’re even more sexist as a country that we are racist. I mean, America hates women so much that they elected an admitted serial sexual assaulter who wanted to jail women for having abortions. Even if his opponent hadn’t been a woman, that speaks to a real hatred of women.

            Also, I’ve seen a theory that the economy was so bad in 08 that people were willing to put aside being racists to take a chance on the black guy. When things got better, they returned to their roots.

            Those two things alone are probably enough to explain the relatively small percentage of Obama-Trump voters.

          • Panika MCD

            let Samantha Bee ‘splain it to you:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw41BDhI_K8

          • Amelia Resists and Persists

            Republicans still win with them because, no matter what Bernie says he believes, they’re racists, homophobes, and generally ignorant people who only like people as stupid as they are. And pretending to be on their level to get votes is not okay with me.

            If you want to tell me that’s giving in, fine. But I’m not going to pander to people who’d rather I not exist in their field of view. Not ever.

      • Panika MCD

        his grassroots people didn’t know how the VAN worked so they got lost for 3 days? I mean, seriously, if you don’t have 2 days worth of walk and call packets printed out, you’re doing grassroots wrong!

      • Roni Raven, Just Microwavin’

        Independent who knew he couldn’t win the presidency as an independent so ran as a Democrat to get the sweet sweet Dem moneys and then went back to being an independent says what?

        Bernie, you have some good, even great, ideas. I used to like you and I would have voted for you if you’d been the Dem nominee. But now you can fuck right off, you not even DINO.

        Also too, dipshit, re: “”How in God’s name do they win elections?” Try reading some news about Russian interference in election, voter data mining for targeted propaganda, the effect of Comey’s eleventh hour email announcement, and the real true science fact that Hillary won the popular vote by five times the population of your home state.

        It pisses me off to no end that Democrats are being painted as ineptocrats when every day we learn more and more about how the election was rigged. Trump was right about that.

        Yes the Dems could make a lot of improvements. But the fact is they did well enough to win the presidency.

        And by the way, liberal elite, Bernie? WTF? YOU are the picture of what the right calls the liberal elite.

        *throws laptop down and goes to garage to search for nonexistent pitchfork and torch*

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      I miss November 8th, 2016, when I still thought America was going to choose sanity. That was the last day I remember being genuinely happy.

    • Sister the Resister

      I’ll be honest, while every campaign can benefit from some post election analysis, whether they lose, or have weak wins in a few places, this particular election loss I place squarely on the 30-year campaign against Hillary, the quest for “the permanent Republican majority,” and the influence of the Russians on the election. Bernie has been an irritant; Democratic mistakes are worth looking at, but the responsibility lies with the GOP and them what they brung to the dance. Assholes.

      • ⭐️better than you⭐️

        The assumption you’re making there is that Sanders wasn’t a Russian asset, whether witting or unwitting.

        I mean, it could just be coincidences that he, too, benefited from a mysterious hacking incident, and that at least one of his senior staff had ties to Russia.

        • Panika MCD

          well, his bestest fans sure were in any case.

      • Panika MCD

        it’s more his fans that annoy the shit out of me. though they should have every reason to STFU now. in any case, Bernie’s venture back into the spotlight last week was