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The Trump administration’s budget director, Mick Mulvaney, really kicked the New Cruelty into a higher gear in a White House press briefing Thursday, explaining that sure, there may be a lot of things government does that might give you good feels, but don’t really have any demonstrable results. Useless fripperies like Meals on Wheels, let’s say, or after-school nutrition programs for poor kids. These things don’t make a profit or kill our enemies, so what good are they, really?

The alleged human being even spoke at length about how eliminating funding for such wasteful spending was actually a great act of compassion to U.S. taxpayers, none of whom we actually heard chanting “starve the grannies” at Trump rallies, but who will certainly appreciate the small savings from nutritional programs, to be diverted to tax cuts for the wealthy and a $54 billion defense buildup.

Mulvaney seemed downright offended that NBC’s Peter Alexander would even ask about the wisdom of zeroing out funding for Meals on Wheels, which for one thing is a state-run program that the federal government only pays for, so why even bother bringing it up? But what good is Meals on Wheels anyway if it doesn’t work?

“Meals on Wheels sounds great,” Mulvaney said during the same press conference. But he added, “We’re not going to spend [money] on programs that cannot show that they actually deliver the promises that we’ve made to people.”

After all, what has Meals on Wheels ever really accomplished to make America great? It hasn’t killed a single terrorist or brought any jobs back from China, or even caught any illegal immigrants. Sure, maybe it serves over 2.4 million seniors annually, and maybe multiple studies have shown the program helps seniors live independently longer, keeping them out of nursing homes, which saves a hell of a lot of money. One study found,

The average cost of a one-month nursing home stay is equivalent to providing home-delivered meals five days a week for approximately seven years [.]

Also on the cost-containment front, a 2013 study by researchers at Brown University found that in most states, increasing Meals on Wheels enrollment would result in a net savings from decreased Medicaid costs for nursing home care.

Now, sure, that may look like “results,” but the truth must be acknowledged: old people served by Meals On Wheels may have better nutrition, fewer falls, and fewer hospitalizations, but they have not raised the millions of dollars for the GOP that other interests have, so they’re a drag on the budget. As for the savings to Medicaid from keeping them out of nursing homes, that point may be moot anyway, since we’re cutting and block-granting Medicaid too. And don’t even get the Trumpers started on wussy stuff about how often the Meals on Wheels volunteer is a welcome daily contact and safety check for the old people using the service — that’s not a measurable result, even. As Mulvaney says, we can’t just

take that federal money and give it to the states and say, ‘Look, we want to give you money for programs that don’t work’ — I can’t defend that anymore.

Our Twilight Zone ironic punishment for Mick Mulvaney: He is trapped inside the body of an old woman who has fallen out of bed, but isn’t terribly worried because she knows the Meals on Wheels driver will be along any moment now. Except the budget’s been eliminated, so there’s not going to be a Meals on Wheels Driver, forever.

And then there are the after-school programs that need to be cut, again, because they seem nice but just aren’t working. Said Mulvaney,

They’re supposed to be educational programs, right? I mean, that’s what they’re supposed to do. They’re supposed to help kids who don’t get fed at home get fed so they do better in school […] Guess what? There’s no demonstrable evidence they’re actually doing that. There’s no demonstrable evidence they’re actually helping results, helping kids do better in school… the way we justified it was, these programs are going to help these kids do better in school and get better jobs. And we can’t prove that that’s happening.

If the test scores aren’t coming up immediately, then obviously the programs aren’t working, and we need to spend the money on a sexy new F-35 fighter jet. Now, Mulvaney isn’t entirely sure which programs are going to get cut, but he does know they’re mostly not working, while hunger can be a real motivator. Haven’t you ever read any Horatio Alger? Neither has Donald Trump, but he hears Horatio Alger is an example of somebody who’s done an amazing job and is getting recognized more and more. Now, if you want to get all nitpicky, as Tom Philpott at Mother Jones does, there’s plenty of evidence that hunger is not good for doing well in school or getting better jobs:

According to a recent report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, hunger takes a toll on student achievement, and alleviating it helps.

■ Lack of adequate consumption of specific foods, such as fruits, vegetables, or dairy products, is associated with lower grades among students.
■ Deficits of specific nutrients (i.e., vitamins A, B6, B12, C, folate, iron, zinc, and calcium) are associated with lower grades and higher rates of absenteeism and tardiness among students.
■ Hunger due to insufficient food intake is associated with lower grades, higher rates of absenteeism, repeating a grade, and an inability to focus among students.

Beyond that, as smartass educator Brittany Packnett pointed out, there’s a plot twist: There’s actually plenty of evidence after-school programs help kids achieve. On a U.S. Government website, no less:

OK, fine, but that’s not “evidence” the way a bomb damage assessment is evidence, so shut it. Besides, if we really want to talk compassion, we need to think not just about the people who take from the government, but also the people the government takes from:

“You’re only focusing on half of the equation, right? You’re focusing on recipients of the money. We’re trying to focus on both the recipients of the money and the folks who give us the money in the first place,” Mulvaney told reporters. “And I think it’s fairly compassionate to go to them and say, ‘Look, we’re not going to ask you for your hard-earned money anymore … unless we can guarantee to you that that money is actually going to be used in a proper function. And I think that is about as compassionate as you can get.”

And Americans are clear on what compassion means: Compassion means using our hard-earned money to rain death from the sky on ISIS, not wasting money taking a hot meal to grandma. We have no choice. Believe me.

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  • Marceline

    This isn’t Trump’s budget. It’s Putin’s.

    45’s budget is pretty much what a hostile foreign power would want to do if it invaded and occupied us: keep the people sick and poor, poison the air and water, starve the weak a.k.a. the young and old, destroy opportunities for education, eliminate the arts, and throw money at corrupt “law enforcement” like ICE and Border Patrol in order to keep the peasants in line. In short, it’s designed to destroy this country and kill off a lot of people in it.

  • dslindc

    “The best people.”

  • memzilla Ω
    • Latverian Diplomat

      Those Babar books took a dark turn eventually.

  • Chadwells

    I can’t think of a GIF that more aptly describes this “administration.” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/69558e3c71f3b3e59b12e482259847214143194827cd4c701b43edf9f89e5976.gif

  • CogitoErgoBibo

    Five trips to Mar-a-Lago in 8 weeks=$15M, but yeah; feeding people is expensive and wasteful. #priorities

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      “When he said ‘We have to make hard choices,’ he meant YOU have to make hard choices.” –Sean Sphincter, eventually.

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    “By their monstrosity, ye shall know them.” Wasn’t that in the Obama Bible or something?

    • Rick Hill

      That seems to be missing in the new conservabible

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        It’s a pretty slim volume…once you take out all that extraneous nonsense about “caring for the poor” and shit.

        • ariel_gee_398

          It’s probably just a picture book with several images of a muscular, blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus swimming in pools of gold like Scrooge McDuck.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            In the interests of diversity, we also have the Rick James, hair-extension, soul-brother, trickle-down, bathrobe Jesus. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/50ba5401994e04d661e5ae62531a5711d32d76db41d40c047414f58ec1c9487e.jpg

          • ariel_gee_398

            Yikes, somehow I failed to notice the bloody nail wound in his palm when I saw this before. Certainly a sunny take on the stations of the cross.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Good eye! I never detected the stigmata before either. I love the Jesus Death Grip on Sleepy Ben’s shoulder….”move a muscle, motherfucker, and I’ll rip it off your body!”

          • Werewolf

            That’s Klingon Jesus. Kaplaagh!

          • ariel_gee_398

            I always viewed it as more of a guiding hand during operations. Divine intervention is about the only explanation I’ve been able to come up to explain his successful career as a surgeon.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            This disconnect in Carson is intriguing. The stepfather of a dear friend of mine is a very successful GP…by all accounts, a skilled and dedicated physician who’s patients adore him. In his personal life, he’s an unlovable loser. A bully, a right wing bigot, completely incurious about anything other than himself. He has Fox News on 24/7, he parks illegally in handicapped spots, he insults and refuses to tip waitstaff. His two natural children are completely estranged from him, and his stepdaughter hates him only slightly less for the fact she’s had less time to learn to do so. The only explanation I can come up with is that it is possible to be both a talented doctor and a waste of a human being.

          • ariel_gee_398

            That kind of thing I think is relatively common – people “use up” all their compassion professionally and have none left for family or society writ large. But Carson, I try to imagine him just functioning as a surgeon and can’t. It’s beyond bedside manner or anything. How did he not forget what he was doing mid-surgery? He just doesn’t seem capable.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            I wonder-and I would never speculate on this publicly-if he isn’t some type of savant…up there somewhere on the autism spectrum. I mean, he does seem to have a gift for neurosurgery…but his absolute ineptitude at seemingly everything else in life…his social awkwardness, his verbal disconnects. I dunno. There’s a young man who’s a fan of my band that I’ve gotten to know fairly well who is, in certain ways, almost brilliant, but displays many of these similar behaviors.

          • ariel_gee_398

            I assumed that his behavior wasn’t always like this. I recall some people from Adventist churches wondering what on earth had happened to him, having seen him 20 years ago. Whatever the explanation is, he shouldn’t be setting any policy for the country.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            I don’t think Carson’s going to be setting any policy. Forgive me for using the term “token Negro”, but he was one of the few available black faces for the charade of “diversity”in the rich white man club that is Trump’s cabinet. He’ll simply regurgitate whatever he’s told, no doubt along with a fair smattering of the bizarre observations that we’ve come to know and love him for.

    • Asterix

      Biden said:

      “Don’t tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I’ll tell you what you value.”

    • Asterix

      I think what he was talking about was Matthew 7:16 – 21

      Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.…

  • Rick Hill

    “The average cost of a one-month nursing home stay is equivalent to providing home-delivered meals five days a week for approximately seven years ”

    You see the real problem? This takes money out of the pockets of those noble people running nursing homes/storage facilities

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      No problem – they’ll cut the funding for nursing home care as well. Problem solved!

      • ariel_gee_398

        But there are some fine grifters running for-profit nursing homes. They buy up the operations and land, put the real property under separate ownership and pass through the profits to the individuals running the empire to make the nursing home judgment proof, then cut staff and corners left and right while raking in those sweet federal reimbursement dollars. It’s positively Trumpian.

        • Biel_ze_Bubba

          The truly Trumpian weasels were the ones who bought a nursing home, and then paid millions to “consultants” who somehow “arranged” for the city to revoke the “permanent” lease that had made the place cheap in the first place. With the property no longer “permanently” restricted to being a nursing home, a wonderful thing happened: it became worth about $100MM more. There’s a luxury condo going up there now. Somebody maybe cares about what happened to the residents, but that somebody does not work in NYC real estate.

  • penny stock

    He’s just growing the next crop of GOP supporters, you have to be dumb so….

  • wide_stance_hubby

    Budget dude needs a crash course in Hunger, because he clearly does not know how it works.

  • DrBigHead

    I said in an earlier post today that what concerned me the most about the Trump administration were the (non)developments at the State Department. Someone over there must have read that, turned to a colleague and said “hold my beer…”.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    “Some 15 miles away, his diehard supporters had started showing up outside of Municipal Auditorium as early as 6 a.m., eventually forming a line that would snake its way around James Robertson Parkway, past Rosa Parks Boulevard and up to Charlotte Avenue, before doubling back and stretching out further.

    At the very back of the line — a point which was constantly changing as more people kept adding to it — a woman named Diann, who’d travelled two hours and walked about three miles to get there, was already doubting she’d actually get into the event. But she’d come anyway “just to be here and support Trump.”

    “He’s going to fix our healthcare, he’s going to stop this illegal immigration, we’ve already got jobs,” she said. “I think he’s going to get our morals back on track too. We’ve been down in morals the last several years.”

    Asked about the many controversies surrounding any number of Trump’s past and continuing statements — about women, minorities or former President Barack Obama — Diann isn’t bothered.

    “It’s not true.”

    “It doesn’t bother me one bit,” added her friend, Shawn, a woman who’d made the trip with her to the event. “What he says, sometimes I’m like ‘oh gosh,’ but you know what? He’s saying what people are feeling.”

    As the line continued to grow, salesman walk up and down it offering Trump merchandise. One of them offers an “eight year guarantee” and has tailored his pitch to the crowd’s existing frustrations about how they might be portrayed: “Don’t believe CNN, there are more women here than men.””

    http://www.nashvillescene.com/news/pith-in-the-wind/article/20855085/trump-brings-his-ongoing-reality-show-to-nashville

    • Crank Tango

      A little ditty, ’bout Shawn and Diann….

    • BosGrl

      Morals. In other words, white nationalism. Because she can’t really be thinking about morals.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        “Pussy grabbing” doesn’t strike me as very “moral.” But what do I know? I’m a special little snowflake who thinks it’s bad to grab women’s genitals.

    • Proud Liberal

      Unfucking believable. I have gotten to the point that I can’t give a flying fuck anymore.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      “I love the uneducated.” Also, apparently, the uneducatable.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        These people are MORONS. They are beyond hope. Clinton was right when she called them “deplorables.”

    • Sophia

      “Morals” I don’t think that means what she thinks it means

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        This is why I can’t stand these people, they are just SO fucking dumb.

      • PubOption

        Mushrooms?

        • Shawn Renee Ernoehazy

          Mushrooms are delicious and provide B vitamins! These people, not so much.

    • proudgrampa

      *shivers*

    • Shanzgood

      I might start with Bailey’s this morning after all.

      And, yay! The liquor store just opened!

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        It’s the little things that make life worth living.

        Note to self: invest in liquor stocks if you sell your house.

    • Shawn Renee Ernoehazy

      That “Shawn” is not welcome in my future gathering of women with my name. If I find out her middle name is Renee (my mom’s family is from Louisiana), I know I was named as a long line of Shawn Renee’s, if we are somehow related, that makes me even more determined to continue my rebellion. Graduating HS, college, and grad school, besides being my goal since I was 12, was a way to break away from my uneducated, small minded, family of origin. My dad has made some progress since marrying his second wife; my brother and mom, not so much.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Unfortunately, some people just can’t be helped. I have two acquaintances who are as dumb as blocks of wood, no matter how much evidence I provide them with, they just want to believe that their “team” has their backs. They watch Fox News and genuinely believe that cutting taxes on the wealthy will somehow help their lower middle class dumb asses.

  • memzilla Ω
  • MynameisBlarney
    • Chadwells

      I am happy to report…it has not gone unnoticed.

    • Chadwells

      And the best part is Tillerson is on his way to Beijing!! I’m sure he has NO idea what he is walking into!

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        According to Rachel, he’s probably asleep right now; so probably not. I had no idea Rex needed so many naps! Must be why he has a name more suited to a pet Labrador.

        • Celtic_Gnome

          We had a border collie growing up named Rex. That was a hardworking dog. (Dairy farm.)

      • Rick Hill

        Considering that protocol when dealing with the Chinese is everything, I’d say it doesn’t matter

    • Oblios_Cap

      “Behaving very badly”? That’s Trump’s only area of expertise.

  • Crank Tango

    I wonder how the AARP is gonna like all this.

    • Chadwells

      They already came out against the entire thing…haven’t they?!?

      • Crank Tango

        I don’t know, I’m (barely) too young to get their magazine.

      • Proud Liberal

        Shit, they are so wishy-washy, who knows.

        • Chadwells

          True story.

    • Asterix

      They’ve come out strongly on the healthcare bullshit but I haven’t seen anything from them about the budget yet.

  • Rick Hill

    No joking, this stuff is making me start drinking earlier every day. Not that I get shist faced but still

    • Groundloop

      Given the point of your comment (which are not allowed), that is an absolutely perfect typo.

      • Rick Hill

        No typo! You’re the typo

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Well, soon that won’t be a problem – you won’t be able to affordst to….

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    Interesting that Trump isn’t cutting veteran’s care, but he’s willing to cut everything else. It’s almost like he’s sucking up to the military or something. Hmmm….

  • Zonath

    I agree with Mulvaney. Where’s all the compassion for the millionaires and billionaires whom the Trump tax cuts will help afford decent meals and clothes for their backs? I think there’s far too little reporting on how they need our help.

  • anon_the_great

    What struck me about this round of New Cruelty is the Olds Mulvaney suggests starving ARE tax payers and have been so longer than this human stain has been pooping.

    • Vecchioivan

      But what have they done for us lately?

  • Proud Liberal

    The level of disdain Republicans have for the American people is beyond disgusting. What the fuck do they want?

    • Vecchioivan

      Cheaper servants?

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Keep in mind that over half of the country keeps voting for these assholes, and applauds their cruelty. That’s what makes me so furious, and I hope they FINALLY get to get trickled down upon.

      • proudgrampa

        They are definitely getting peed on.

    • FlownΩver

      Taking their lead from Southside Johnny – “All I Want Is Everything.”

  • dshwa

    2+ Rusty Garden Weasel of Votes, but seriously thinking of removing the of Votes.

  • memzilla Ω

    Haven’t you ever read any Horatio Alger?

    Pinkham’s new book: 101 Recipes For Bootstraps ‘N Hobo Beans

  • Mike Steele

    Morning, all. Watched this live yesterday, slack-jawed in horror. Even the reporters were stunned at the boner this guy was getting from sharing Team Trump’s latest assault on the least among us. If this doesn’t translate to record turnouts in 2018, we fear that nothing will and the nation will deserve its fate.

    • Lefty Frizzell

      I fear it’s already too late. The day you all collectively decided that Sandy Hook wasn’t worth expanded background checks was the day America died. I honestly don’t see how you recover from that.

      • dshwa

        Yeah, I felt the same way then. If 20 or so dead kids don’t move the needle, it’s not moving.

      • Proud Liberal

        It is too late. There’s no going back now.

      • RumAddled

        yes, shameful to the point of no redemption

      • laughingnome

        I do think about that a lot. It seemed the point when the last flicker of our soul died.

      • Mike Steele

        Oh, they expanded the background check system, alright…to EXCLUDE mentally-ill from banned list. just saw stats on life expectancy in developed nations. one of the reasons we aren’t at the top of the list (though we spend more than ANYONE on ‘health care’) is our obscene number of gun-related deaths per capita. But noooooo…that ‘well-regulated militia’ demands their 2nd amendment rights while job-training, after school activities and Meals on Fucking Wheels are axed. You are right. This administration, and the folks who handed it to us, have no shame.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    You start providing benefits to the elderly, children, and the disabled, and next thing you know, they stop even looking for work.

    • Lord Jim

      Anent the disabled, that’s exactly what Tom Cotton said.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    Maybe they should ask the seniors if living through the end of the week is “results”.

    • snark-lurker

      remember: these unproductive oldsters are just an unnecessary burden on…everybody who donut like being burdened

      • FlownΩver

        Logan’s Run, Step 1.

  • Mary Sandoras
    • Rick Hill

      2.4 mill? And how much was spent on Benghazi investigations? I bet we aren’t too poor for those to keep happening

      • Mary Sandoras

        I read an estimate a long time ago that the Benghazi investigation had a $8 million price tag.

        • FlownΩver

          Doesn’t’t include the cost of wasted oxygen used to keep the investigators alive.

    • Lefty Frizzell

      And they receive foodstamps. For all that conservatives like to say “connect the dots!” they’re not very good at all at connecting the dots.

      Veterans For Trump may want to reflect on that at some point.

  • Rick Hill
    • Proud Liberal

      All the GOP green ties yesterday made me want to puke.

    • bookish

      Politicians and legislators need to clearly understand that if they hurt us, we will hurt them right back. There will be a price.

      • Proud Liberal

        Somehow that’s not computing with them because they keep getting elected. WTF is wrong with the American people?

        • bookish

          Electoral college is part of the problem.

          • shivaskeeper

            The EC has nothing to do with the local, county, and state elections. The EC also has nothing to do with the House and Senate.

      • shivaskeeper

        It hasn’t happened yet. Local and state assholes get elected and do this on a smaller scale and get elected all the time. There is no incentive for them to stop.

  • BreakingDeadMen

    Are there no workhouses? Are there no prisons?

    • FlownΩver

      Hey… I’ve got it… Privately owned workhouses!

      Business plan!

      • BreakingDeadMen

        Haliburton or Xe?

  • The Librarian

    Who wouldn’t rather eat bombs than a hot meal? Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb your Gran……

    • wide_stance_hubby

      If it’s not lunch, then it’s the bomb that will bring us together.

      • BreakingDeadMen

        Bombs will keep us together
        Forever

      • The Librarian

        Bombs Will Keep Us Together
        –Captain & Tennille

  • bookish
  • Martini Ambassador

    “You’re only focusing on half of the equation, right? You’re focusing on recipients of the money. We’re trying to focus on both the recipients of the money and the folks who give us the money in the first place,” Mulvaney told reporters. “And I think it’s fairly compassionate to go to them and say, ‘Look, we’re not going to ask you for your hard-earned money anymore […]

    Yes, exactly, especially considering the beneficiaries of all of these new tax breaks will be the poor, downtrodden 1%ers. I mean, how can all of us, in good conscience, ask someone to have to forgo the purchase of a third vacation home in Cannes or another Cartier bracelet to keep up with the seasonal trends? It’s just inhumane! Sorry Grandma, but your days of taking are O-VAH!

    • Rick Hill

      Hard earned. Yeah, right. Like Shrelki works hard to make his millions

    • Mike Steele

      Yo, Donald…we’re running out of our hard-earned money so next weekend, what’s say you just stay home with the little lady and watch some netflix. Oh, sorry, we forgot-she can’t stand you, either”

  • proudgrampa

    My God. Do these people even hear themselves?

    • Lefty Frizzell

      Yes. And they like what they hear.

      At least Spicer’s got a soul so we can derive some sort of horrified entertainment watching him kill it a little at a time each day, but that guy Mulvaney…

      • Proud Liberal

        Mulvaney needs his ass kicked twelve days until Sunday. That man has no soul.

      • Mike Steele

        If Sphincter had a soul, he’d go into another line of work.

  • wide_stance_hubby

    Hey, he never said he wanted to Make America Eat Again.

    • Proud Liberal

      MAGA is DAGA. Donald is great again.

      • Biff52

        Wrong. He’s never been great, or even good.

        • Proud Liberal

          I would agree with that. However, he is the President and we have to live with that fact. WTF?

      • proudgrampa

        Donald is GAGA.

    • Rick Hill

      Hard times build character

  • dshwa

    Anyone remember The American President?
    “How do you deal with people who claim to love America but clearly hate Americans?”

    We’re finding out this year.

    • proudgrampa

      And we thought you COULD make this stuff up!

    • Lance Thrustwell

      The GOP: Principles Over People.

  • anwisok
    • Sardonicuss

      The first three are nice but..pretty sure that dog is eating that cat.

      • Oblios_Cap

        The dog looks Oriental…

        • Sardonicuss

          Cats expression seems to say: Oh well, so this is how it ends…

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        My dog and kitten used to love that game. Dog mouths kittens head, kitten staggers away, covered with saliva, comes back for more. I don’t know what the hell the cat got out of it.

  • Wild Cat

    The Hunger Artist “Administration.” (Who said they hated the arts?)

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    “…and maybe multiple studies have shown the program helps seniors live independently longer, keeping them out of nursing homes, which saves a hell of a lot of money.”

    This is what infuriates me about Republicans, they don’t ever do anything that makes any sense. They’re going to try to outlaw abortion, yet they have NO plan on how they’re going to feed and clothe all that beautiful humanity. Once those kids are born, they won’t give a fuck about them.

    • shivaskeeper

      They have a plan. The plan is punishment.

      Punishment for whoring around and getting pregnant. Punishment for being black. Punishment for not being born rich. Punishment for getting old. Punishment for being in any way disabled. Punishment for getting sick. Punishment for having unmitigated gall to say, “I would like to be treated as a full citizen”. Punishment for being even slightly different than them. Punishment for not following their religion. Punishment for even thinking of challenging their superiority and demanding a somewhat more level playing field. Punishment fir making them fear, even if the fear is in their own heads only. Punishment for existing.

      Also punching down is a big part of the plan.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Why do you hate America, and winners?

        • shivaskeeper

          I read that as whiners. I forgot to add punishment for the whiners also too.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            The country is currently being run by whiners. I’ve never seen a bigger whiner than Trump. “Boo hoo, poor me, rich white guy who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and everyone doesn’t love me.” Sigh…I don’t know if I can live with this guy another 3 3/4 years.

  • arglebargle

    NOT kicking this man in the nuts repeatedly would really seem nice, but I can’t prove that. So I vote for repeatedly kicking him in the nuts.

    • Proud Liberal

      2nd vote.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        3rd vote.

        • Biel_ze_Bubba

          Until it shows results.

        • SpideySenser

          Infinite vote.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      This is kind of a gray area in the Votemotif – what say you, O Banhammerer?…

      • dshwa

        Let’s vote on it.

        • Proud Liberal

          Aye.

        • Ricky Gay

          vigorously

        • Biel_ze_Bubba

          With votes!

        • Nockular cavity

          It does need testing. WHAM!

      • arglebargle

        To be clear, I wouldn’t actually visit physical harm on him. But I do hope he ends up dependent on others for his survival, and that he gets that help. Eventually.

    • (((fka_donnie_d)))

      No need – just starve him to death

  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    Grandma Toomush (95) is a Meals on Wheelser – because it’s tough for her, blind as she is, to make a wide range of meals, ever since we unplugged the stove…

    • SweetDeeKat

      My grandma was, too. She and Grandpa paid a lot of fucking taxes during their lives. She would just not eat if someone didn’t bring it to her every day, because “she didn’t want to be a bother.” Sweetest person I ever knew.

      Fuck this guy and grind his face in the dirt. Repeatedly.

      • Liberoid Ron

        It’s not a universal rule, but in my many decades on this weary world, I have remarked how often those who have always given the most are uncomfortable with getting any more back than ‘their due,’ however much they deserve it. While those who have always been a burden on the world insists on getting every last drop, plus a few more if they can scam it from someone.

  • Creepoman

    “And we can’t prove that that’s happening” is Newspeak for “it hasn’t been featured by Alex Jones.”

    • FlownΩver

      btw, do we have all that proof of the efficacy of the Laffer Curve yet? Been waiting on that one since the Eighties.

  • dshwa

    You know, I think it’s time for the blue States to just say “Fuck it, we out.” You want to be Kansas, fine, but you’re not dragging us down there with you.

    • Proud Liberal

      Raises hand!

      • FlownΩver

        Kansas, meanwhile, may have experienced its moment of clarity. The current debate in Topeka is how to raise taxes. No promises yet, but we may not be so much North Oklahoma any more.

  • VirginiaLady

    Gotta get a new thesaurus. I’m tired of using monstrous and vile to describe the GOP.

    • Lara

      Disgusting is pretty apt.

    • therblig

      by now, “GOP” should be enough

    • WomanInThePersistence

      “Nauseating” and “reprehensible” really need to be used more often.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      I like “disingenuous” and “deluded” if I’m feeling charitable. “Satanic” and “lying” when I’m not.

    • nosuchuser

      Have you tried: myopic, phyrric, reprobate, self-dealing simpleton, and my favorite rat bastard

      • VirginiaLady

        I used to use “bag of salted rat dicks” in the comments section but comments aren’t allowed:(

        • nosuchuser

          That one is also good, I look forward to using it in the near future…

    • Shibusa

      “Deplorable”?

  • Vecchioivan

    “For ye have the poor always with you . . . if I have my way.” – GOP Jesus

  • undercover epicurean

    But Obummer’s gonna death panel your grandpa, right?

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Can we stop paying Republicans until they show some positive results?

    • Liberoid Ron

      Now THAT will be some significant savings. Ongoing, too.

    • ltmcdies

      put that slogan on a sign for the next rally because it’s a keeper

  • Ricky Gay

    Being this specifically dickish is either meant to distract or is further proof of malevolent stupidity. Either way, fuck that guy!

    • Persistent Demme

      Yep!
      Squirrel!

      (But it’s not working.)

  • Oblios_Cap

    old people served by Meals On Wheels may have better nutrition, fewer falls, and fewer hospitalizations, but they have not raised the millions of dollars for the GOP that other interests have, so they’re a drag on the budget.

    And yet they have cut funding on climate change research, which offers the greatest chance of bringing back enough ice floes that we can push those deadbeats out to sea on. That’s just crazy.

  • Bureaucrap

    We WILL be funding Thunderdome, though. All Americans will be put into Thunderdome, and life will be great for the 20-30 survivors.

  • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

    Oh FFS. I pay a larger portion of my income for taxes than any of these rich assholes, and I live on a pension. I’d be glad to see it go for health care, after school programs, and meals on wheels.

    • Proud Liberal

      I mean, isn’t that why we are here? To help our fellow person? That’s how I was raised.

      • Zonath

        Well, apparently your parents aren’t sociopaths, or at least didn’t care to raise one.

      • Liberoid Ron

        Interestingly, I was raised by people who would agree with this shit Mulvaney, though never out loud. Some of them are Christianists, too, who always included a bit of victim-shaming on those unworthies they deigned to ‘assist.’ Happily I figured out about helping others on my own.

        • PubOption

          Mulvaney sounds a bit too Catholic for the Christianists, although he could be from the Archbishop Burke branch of the faith.

          • “M”

            What the F is up with the Catholics? Mulvaney and Ryan?

            They sound REALLY depraved.

        • Mike Steele

          bless YOUR heart…seriously.

          • Liberoid Ron

            TYK. But, well, it just seems SENSIBLE, you know?

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      and not that greedy fucking Pentagon…

  • laughingnome

    Trump thinks Horatio is the number of whores per client.

    • therblig

      the horatio at the bridge was too low, so no job for chris christie

  • Lance Thrustwell

    Non-snarky question here about Meals on Wheels (none of my older relatives have used it) – I assume that can be ‘groceries on wheels’ for those still able to cook for themselves? Just wondering.

    • dshwa

      My grandma used to deliver for it, and it was always a full meal when she brought me along.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        Hm. Well, I would think some kind of federal ‘Groceries on Wheels’ program could be pretty useful for seniors whose eyesight, or perhaps a neurological condition, prevents them from driving, but are otherwise compos corpus and mentis. Wonder if there’s a program like that. Probably are a few.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Possibly. But not for long.

        • Biel_ze_Bubba

          That would be useful for those who haven’t got the money. There are the on-line grocery vendors, and some stores like Stop&Shop have on-line ordering. Minimum orders of $50 or $70 are a barrier, since oldz rarely need that much stuff.
          I keep thinking that the M-o-W folks could take delivery of the groceries, and distribute them when they distribute the meals. With a single delivery destination, the store wouldn’t need to have a minimum order for each customer.

          • Lance Thrustwell

            Right! Pretty much what I was thinking. Now, groceries are considerably bulkier than a single plate of food. But that would be offset by the grocery recipients not needing daily deliveries. I think with careful scheduling, it might work for some neighborhoods.

    • I think it may depend in the organization running it. But the nin-profit i work for has a program and we do full meals

    • therblig

      here in jersey city, they’re frozen meals that can be microwaved or oven heated.

    • Liberoid Ron

      A few years ago I was caretaker for a gentleman who was suffering from advanced Alzheimers, looking after him until he became bad enough that he needed hospitalisation. I did dinners for him, but his lunch was provided by the Canadian version of MoW. They arrived cooked and ready to eat, at least in his case, and they would spend a little time chatting with him, making sure things were okay, and they’d talk to me as well so they could keep up to date on him.
      There were other services available that would do groceries for ‘higher-functioning’ seniors. I imagine many places in the US do that as well.

    • JayGoldenBeach

      Here in Florida, they are cutting the food assistance for 200,000-plus people – and Miami GOP state Rep. Carlos Trujillo said, “I saw a woman using her SNAP card to pay for groceries with a Mercedes emblem on her key ring. We have to reduce the fraud.”

      He was also an early Trump sycophant.

      • FlownΩver

        That was probably a peace symbol, with which the Honorable Gentleman was wholly unfamiliar.

      • chortlingdingo

        Also, since when is it a sign of wealth to have a fucking luxury car key chain.

    • FlownΩver

      One of the real benefits of the program, which usually involves delivery of prepared meals, is the regular contact and general check on the client’s well-being. Often MoW will be the first to notice, and make a referral for, other needs.

  • Creepoman

    Note to self: buy stock in cat food companies.

    • therblig

      Addendum: buy cat food

  • motmelere

    Seriously, does this regime form focus groups to search for highly punchable faces to hire?

    • Proud Liberal

      I’m guessing yes.

  • ServantToTheStars

    The greatest Meals on Wheels volunteer is Richard Gere’s Dad and one of the finest men I’ve ever known. He’s been doing it for over 20 years.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoDhxz0qxPw

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Interesting! And good for him.

    • Mike Steele

      Lady MS here: The greatest one I knew was Mom, who was the ‘jumper’ while her co-worker was the driver on their 45-minute lunch break twice a week.

  • Mary Sandoras

    I’m really not too worried about his budget proposal, since numerous GOPers say it’s DOA. Between the budget and Trumpcare it’s slowly eroding his own base.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      I don’t believe it’s eroding his base at all. He could ask them to give up a newborn baby for Bannon to eat every day, and they’d do it gladly.

      • Mary Sandoras

        LOL, but he is getting blowback from congressional republicans. Maybe I am being overly optimistic concerning his base.

      • FlownΩver

        Somebody else’s baby, of course.

    • Shanzgood

      I think these initial atrocities are just to stun us and wear us down so we accept the next slightly less atrocious offering because it’s not so bad and we’re exhausted already. Like legislatures putting out a “heartbeat” abortion ban they know will never pass and then following it up with a 20wk ban that sails right through.

      • Sardonicuss

        Its the “hitting your head with a hammer” form of governance.
        It feels so good when it stops, you don’t mind just being hit with a 2×4.

      • Mary Sandoras

        Good point.

    • Thaumaturgist

      Donnie’s a top notch negotiator. He’s going to make those RINO’s trade stuff to feed their “compassionate” streaks. Anything they want has to be traded for What Donnie wants. It’s all good.

    • ltmcdies

      Only if that whole economic anxiety is accurate.

      But if the vote was more “let’s stick it the blacks and Latins and that Muslim Obama”….I don’t think it will

      that lot spent to much time believing they were “victims” because the president was black.

    • Rick Hill

      The same goppers who said “Never trump”?

  • canes_pugnaces

    In my building in NYC (Harlem) there was an old woman in her 90s. Her name was Tina. She had been a tap dancer at the Apollo Theater and was friends with Langston Hughes, Ralph Ellison (who lived here). My daughter and stopped in on her, as did other people. she regularly chastised me, “Young man, you must learn to cut your hair more ofter and be a better dresser.” We loved Tina. Tina could not have lived without Meals on Wheels. But according to Conald Trumputin she should have just died. I mean she didn’t even have a membership at May-o-Lego.

    We have entered an era of hate and greed courtesy of the GOP.

    • Thaumaturgist

      One of the myths about New York City is how “unfriendly” it is supposed to be. This lady’s life is enriched and no doubt prolonged by the people in her building who keep in contact. In a “friendlier” rural area, she likely would be abandoned.

      • canes_pugnaces

        As my daughter said (who goes to a publicly funded G&T HS on the UES) if Tina had lived on the Upper East Side they’d have put her in a dumpster.

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    • Proud Liberal

      And, we the people, must do something to stop this insanity before it’s too late, if it’s not already.

      • canes_pugnaces

        When I read (yes, sometimes I do) the racist venom spewing from the minds of Breitbart and Fox readers, fans of The Conald, if feel it may be too late. The good news those people aren’t coming anywhere near us in Harlem, the bad news is the damage they’ll do from a distance.

        • Proud Liberal

          I agree. There is no going back now. We have to navigate our way forward.

    • MizzMazz

      And now I’m crying. She sounds like a gem.

    • Shibusa

      I am very disturbed at the cruelty meanness of Republican voters who still support Trump at this point.

    • canes_pugnaces
    • goonemeritus

      The world is full of living treasures like Tina, one only has to make slight detours in our normal routine to find them.

      • canes_pugnaces

        If they haven’t starved to death.

        • goonemeritus

          No saying when you stop by you couldn’t bring a nice casserole.

    • Relativicus

      I love the story about Tina’s opinions on male grooming, but lament the fact she would have hated me.

  • susan_g

    Those olds wouldn’t need Meels On Wheels if they gave up their fancy Cricket phones. –Jason Chaffetz

    • laughingnome

      Let them eat crickets.

  • Shoto

    Hannibal Lecter ain’t got shit on this psychopath. He’s a vicious MF.

  • Royal Ugly Dude

    There’s actually plenty of evidence after-school programs help kids achieve. On a U.S. Government website, no less

    I’m guessing that information is about to disappear, along with a lot of other government web pages, in the St. Patrick’s Day cybermassacre of 2017.

  • schmannity

    No demonstrable evidence of efficacy of Meals on Wheels and after school food programs but Trump firmly believes in wire tapp.

    • Proud Liberal

      Mar-A-Lago too.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    A message for Mulvaney…
    http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/gmsfu.gif

    • Ωbjectifier

      Fuciking saved!

      • MizzMazz

        Yep. we’re going to be using it a lot.

    • Liberoid Ron

      Eight Helens agree.

    • Persistent Demme

      When I grow up, I want to be a Raging Granny!

  • bookish

    http://nbcnews.to/2nyCrPO

    LONDON — British spy agency GCHQ has issued a rare and angry denial of a “ridiculous” allegation, repeated by White House press secretary Sean Spicer, that it eavesdropped on President Donald Trump during the election campaign.

    The signal intelligence agency went public after Spicer quoted a Fox New analyst to support Trump’s so-far-unfounded claim that he was wiretapped by President Barack Obama.

    A British government official went further, saying Friday that White House had promised not to repeat the claim — further undermining Trump’s insistence that he is correct.

    • Liberoid Ron

      The WH promised. Donnie didn’t.

    • Flashman

      Next step: send over Bond. James Bond.

    • Doug Langley

      I guess we’re all supposed to be grateful Donnie didn’t say “Screw the Brits! Gimmee the football!”

  • laughingnome

    I’m willing to estimate the cumulative cost of Trump’s weekends in FLA are about what it costs to feed 2.4 million seniors for a year.

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    Also, cuts to Low Income Assistance so that people don’t freeze to death in the wintertime. That seems particularly Dickensian to me.

    • ariel_gee_398

      When you’re freezing to death, you’re less likely to notice how hungry you are?

    • shivaskeeper

      I know the utilities will be against that one at least, LIHEAP gets paid directly to the utility companies to keep the heat on. They won’t want to lose what is essentially free money.

    • NastyBossetti

      I’m picturing “code blue” shelters set up in local school gyms across the country every winter, for people who can’t afford to heat their homes.

      • Liberoid Ron

        WHAT schools?

  • Nockular cavity

    Erin go break ya neck, Mulvaney.

  • jellysblues

    Murder drones are a much more compassionate use of tax dollars.

    • laughingnome

      Directed at Mulvaney? With VOTES.

  • laughingnome

    So the lesson Mulvaney learned from his ancestors’ famine was the British were right to do nothing.

    • Heck, it’s not like there weren’t other opportunities for them somewhere else, instead of sitting around starving to death.

  • WomanInThePersistence

    This guy genuinely makes me want to say things that are against the rules. And I’m a peaceful soul, usually.

  • NastyBossetti

    People not dying from starvation while living in an extraordinarily rich and powerful country = demonstrable results. People who would otherwise be dead for NO GOOD REASON are alive.

    • Alan

      But what are they contributing?

      • Liberoid Ron

        Certainly not Greatness.

      • NastyBossetti

        Werthers originals to the nation’s youth?

      • chicken thief

        Votes for the GOP, for one.*

        *Despite that point, I am on the side of feeding them

  • Persistent Demme

    Seems like ol’ fuckface stepped in it with Meals on Wheels.
    Even Goopers seem to like this program.

    Shame to see MoW used as a negotiating tactic.

    I can’t handle this every morning.
    It’s taking years off my life.
    Iz our voters learning?

    • One of the NY GOP representatives blew a gasket about that on CNN. Particularly since his mother was in the program, and he isn’t about to go back to his district and say “oh, yeah, sure, mom can just fuck off….”

      • Persistent Demme

        Always good to hear.

      • Lord Jim

        Fuck him. Why should his mom get handouts when their are millions of other kidz, poorz, and oldz who go without? I’m getting GODDAMNED sick of people who only find proper moral outrage in the instant that it’s their ox getting gored.

  • Idiokraticdrumpfenjugend

    Hell just finished that new circle for the Trumpists. Now they are starting construction on the Mulvaney/Price wing designed for the more extreme assholes.

  • shivaskeeper

    Since these assholes get in front of the cameras and act like trolls, did anyone question him where he got his statistics about none of these programs being effective?

    • Shanzgood

      And isn’t it pretty much required that Federally funded programs kind of have to regularly prove themselves to continue receiving funding?

      • shivaskeeper

        When and if the get audited they would have to show the money went out and was accounted for. Other than that, it would depend on the program.

        • chicken thief

          It does seem pretty easy to justify Meals on Wheels, though.

          Were meals delivered?
          Did the oldster eat some?

          Ok, mission accomplished!

          • shivaskeeper

            It would seem. For something like meals on wheels the feds would audit the states to see if the money went to the program or if they shunted it somewhere else in the budget. The actual program is locally run with federal and charity money.

            But you are failing to take into account they money is going to feed dirty takers who should have planned ahead and not gotten old or infirm in any way or better yet, either been born into money or at the least married into money.

      • Ωbjectifier

        Yes. But not the military. Go figure.

        • chortlingdingo

          And they’re extremely inefficient money wasters. My USAF brother-in-law was telling me one time about hundreds of thousands of dollars that basically went down the drain because no one bothers to document what they’re doing, so when people change jobs, the same work basically has to be done again.

          And that’s just one small area too.

    • Liberoid Ron

      Same place they get all their other ‘statistics.’ Don’t worry, you get used to the pervading stench of feces.

      • shivaskeeper

        Journalism. How does that work?

  • Liberoid Ron

    People talk a lot about evil. You don’t often get to see it close up like this. Not the real thing. This is Stalin-level evil, and they’re fucking PROUD of it.

  • The KGB Ate Our Votes

    I cried because I had no shoes. Then I met a Republican who knocked me down and took my socks.

    • chicken thief

      PULL YERSELF UP BY YER BOOTSTRA… er… uh…. PULL YERSELF UP!!1!!!

  • Alan

    Um yeah, there’s a lot of evidence. When will these idiots just stop lying.

    • chicken thief

      That’s a rhetorical question, right?

  • Michael Smith

    Hey this is what the Trump voters want. They don’t care about the money, really. They want to send the message that poor people have only themselves to blame, and that if they think they can continue to live off of our HARD EARNED dollars, they’ll find out quickly that the free ride is over, and they can just starve.

    This is what they’ve said on Facebook ever since they figured out how to use it. Its what they’ve said to each other in bars and hair salons since before I was born. Its what drives them to complain at Sunday dinner after church about the disgusting young woman in front of them at Wal-Mart earlier who paid for her cigarettes with an access card and was letting her kids run wild. Its why they can’t stand to hear one more word from a mother in the hood crying about her dead son, when she’s probably on welfare and smoking crack.

    This is their fantasy. And if indulging them will keep the GOP in power, and encourage poor and working class Americans to continue hating each other rather than the business elites who run the GOP – then why the hell not indulge them?

    • Thaumaturgist

      Now that you mention it, if Donnie shot someone on Fifth Avenue, his base would cheer.

    • Red Bird Ω

      Its what they say when they spend two hours talking BS with their co workers while on the clock.

  • nightmoth

    Mick Mulvaney. I’m thinking with a name like that he had ancestors who died of starvation. Happy Fucking St. Patrick’s Day, Mick, you filthy murdering Brit! (Apologies to current Brits, but y’know, history and all.)

  • Ωbjectifier

    “We’re not going to spend [money] on programs that cannot show that they actually deliver the promises that we’ve made to people.”

    Haven’t won a war since 1945, time to slash funding to DoD.

  • Counter Sniper

    This guy is full of sh*t. It’s not like people are gonna be getting tax refunds if these programs are cut. The govt will still keep it and waste it on unneeded military hardware and a stupid f*ckin wall.

    And I’m still waiting on a reporter to ask if Trump actually knows there is a northern border too. A border that is less defended than the southern border. A border next to a country that has a lot of those scary Syrian refugees he keeps whining about.

    • shivaskeeper

      That country is considered white, so it’s not problem. Also the natives of Canuckistan are not coming here taking our jerbs.

      • NastyBossetti

        MrBossetti is a Canadian who actually did just that! People here want to be afraid of immigrants taking jobs, they should be afraid of the immigrants like my husband, who holds a pretty nice job and was recruited from outside the country to do it because they couldn’t find qualified applicants here.

        • Claire

          Yeah, that’s the other side of immigration that never gets talked about. Immigrants aren’t just coming here to pick vegetables and do jobs Americans won’t do; they’re coming here to do advanced technical work that Americans are increasingly too stupid to do. Losing them means losing a big chunk of our ability to maintain 20th-century tech, let alone 21st.

        • shivaskeeper

          Don’t go getting your facts all over this. This is about unreasoning fear, panic, and hate.

    • Not to mention the truly scary ones who speak “French.”

    • The KGB Ate Our Votes

      Ivanka doesn’t want to have to climb a damn 20 foot wall every time she sneaks out to see Justin.

      • Red Bird Ω

        I doubt Justin wants to see her.

    • chicken thief

      “The govt will still keep it….”

      Or give it to the really really rich people that I’ve only read about.

      • Counter Sniper

        Theyre still getting their tax cuts for sure. But none of this austerity/Scrooge McDuck crap will benefit anyone as claimed by d*ckface in that disgusting display of a press briefing.

  • The KGB Ate Our Votes

    The Pentagon, which seems to have misplaced and cannot account for a missing $125,000,000,000, needs to tell the taxpayers, ‘Look, we’re not going to ask you for your hard-earned money anymore … unless we can guarantee to you that that money is actually going to be used in a proper function.”

  • Kristin Peters

    It’s like they can’t hate enough, can’t express their anger enough.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Yes. It’s exactly like that.

  • NastyBossetti

    I give you money! I want you to use it to help people! The things you’re talking about cutting are EXACTLY the things I want my money to be used for! GODDAMNIT!

  • Webster
    • Ωbjectifier

      Is that…a smile?

      • WotsAllThisThen

        No. I’ve seen smiles before. That’s not what they look like.

        • MizzMazz

          That’s a rictus, a sneer, the kind of thing certain animals do before they attack.

          • PubOption

            “I was trying to stifle a yawn when the Botox took effect.”

          • MizzMazz

            Ya know, I don’t really have a problem with plastic surgery. I don’t. I would like this divit I have on between my eyebrows gone, from doing the WTF face. I heard Restilane is good for that. I’ve always had what we now call ‘resting bitch face’ Even had a boss complain about it – “No, that’s just my face. My lips go down, can’t help it.” But when I see faces destroyed for this sad desire to remain young (and young doesn’t look like that) I have the money and options to do things to my face, but I like the face that is a map of my life. I have smile lines, I have frown lines, I have resting bitch face, and the only unfair thing is I get zits still at 53.

          • puredog

            Upfist for “rictus.”

          • MizzMazz

            You see that on republican faces all the time. Not a happy smile, a mean smile.

      • ltmcdies

        I guess…if you count that “smile” the vampire gives you before biting.

      • Hanaka

        It looks like it hurts.

    • Tacoclamgenda

      Let’s make this one of our postcards to send.

  • MizzMazz

    Thoroughly disgusted by this man and his doublespeak, his lame excuses, and complete lack of compassion. But WHAT THE HELL is that in his pocket? AstroTurf? Most people just put a pocket square there, and call it a day. His tie and piece of popcorn on his lapel is stupid too.

  • JayGoldenBeach

    Republican spokesholes always sound cynical using the word compassionate.

    I would rather my taxes pay for helping to educate children and feed old people instead of paying for bombs that kill children and old people in dirty proxy wars.

    • MizzMazz

      Why, it’s almost like they don’t know the meaning of the word! Like hearing Dolt 45 saying LGBTQ.

    • The KGB Ate Our Votes

      I once saw a compassionate conservative riding a unicorn.

      • chicken thief

        There used to be CONSERVATIVE arguments to fund Planned Parenthood, drug treatment in lieu of incarceration, Head Start, Meals on Wheels and the like. In fact, there still are, but when the top .01% has to pay an extra 2.5% in taxes to help fund them… well, what can you do?

      • puredog

        I suspect I am visualizing that differently from you.

  • azeyote

    rich people just want more more more – that’s why they need a bigger military state to protect them from us poors who might some day get pissed off, and do something about it again –

    • The KGB Ate Our Votes

      Let’s start a Go-Fund-Me account to build our own damn aircraft carrier.

    • Ωbjectifier
      • Up the IRA!

      • puredog

        I assume she’s carrying her votes in an inside pocket.

        • Ωbjectifier

          Looks like a 20 vote magazine.

    • Persistent Demme

      And they will live in a boring world.
      What will they do without the Poors to make art for them?

      • Red Bird Ω

        What will they do without the poors to buy their shit? Most of them make their millions off of high volume sales to the average person.

        • Ωbjectifier

          Serve the masses, dine with the classes.
          Serve the classes, dine with the masses.

          • Red Bird Ω

            True. But seriously. What do they think will happen when the majority of the population is too poor even to buy their cheap crap? Oh wait, they’re hoping to bring back feudalism. My mistake.

        • LadyLaz

          This.

  • Shibusa

    Mick “Do we really need government-funded research at all?” Mulvaney is a sociopath.

  • Belasaurius

    Let’s take away his food for a week and see if his performance improves. FUCKING ASSHOLE

    • Tacoclamgenda

      Hell, let him have dollar store tea,100 bags for a buck, and cheap cereal in big plastic bags. That ought a hold him.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      3 weeks is actually the point you get someone’s attention about food. Averagely.

      • Ωbjectifier

        Rule of fours:
        4 minutes without air
        4 days without water
        4 weeks without food

        • Beanz&Berryz

          That’s funny. I heard it as the rule of 3s. But. We’re soft Libs out here. And also too. 3 hours in hypothermic conditions.

          Let’s do a test on trumps budget fucker.

      • chicken thief

        They’d have my attention after the first meal. I don’t need to wait until my swollen stomach explodes. Fuck that starving shit – FEED KIDS AND GRANNIES!!!

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Agreed. And. These rules of 3 ( or 4) are actually the limits of survival, or put another way, when averagely most people won’t survive. So. I was being. Tongue in cheek.

  • Beanz&Berryz

    I’m just raged out.

  • Belasaurius

    Old people vote in higher percentages than the rest of us, hopefully, those who haven’t starved to death won’t forget when the mid-terms come around

    • Crystalclear12

      I am sure AARP will help them remember.

  • Crystalclear12

    Compassionate conservativism finally has a poster boy.

    On the plus side today is one of few socially acceptable days to get shit faced.

    Couldn’t come at a better time.

  • Undocumented Skwerl!

    New United States motto: In God We Trust: Death to Everybody!*

    *wealthy excluded.

  • Hanaka

    I always say I grew up too poor to be a republican. Guessing this clown and the cheeto-in-chief have never known anyone who needed meals on wheels or a free school lunch. Disgusting bloodthirsty pigs. The new cruelty is giving me constant sads and I don’t know what the hell to do about it.

    • Aunt PithyPat

      I’ve been crying. It doesn’t help, but it seems appropriate.

    • Proud Liberal

      You’re not alone. I have cried every day since the election.

  • Parakeetist

    We are not human if we don’t take care of the poor and the elderly.

    • Aunt PithyPat

      I think elephants do that, too… but yeah. That pretty much sums it up.

  • Soooo……
    They don’t wanna ask tax payers to pay for poor people to eat.
    But they are FINE not asking tax payers to pay for Trump’s weekend vacations, his 3rd wife’s separate residence, or all those new fancy planes that no one but defense contractors will ever see dime one on.

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    Donald Trump is proof of the efficacy of afterschool programs- he probably wouldn’t be ya know how he is if those programs and head start existed in his day.

  • Persistent Demme

    Hey GOP!
    How does it feel to ALL be Zombie-Eyed-Granny-Starvers!?!?

  • Shibusa
    • gamera23

      Paid by Soros.

      • puredog

        You got your check?!!?!?

    • RandomNameAllocated

      So long and thanks for all the fish?

      • Courser_Resistance

        My thoughts exactly. Is it HELLO JEEBUS time already?

        • RandomNameAllocated

          Nah – I’d rather have the Vorlons and their poetry any day (looks to skies to see if there’s anything up there hanging exactly like a brick doesn’t)

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    He keeps using that word “compassionate”. It doesn’t mean what he thinks it means.

  • goonemeritus

    This is mostly a marketing problem, starving the old seems negative but if you were to frame it as a cleanse or a fast it will get more buy-in.

  • An Outhouse for the Resistance

    Maybe dumb people don’t know how to eat good.

    • I have had arguments with people who think that giving kids breakfast/lunch in schools is letting their parent(s) off easy. Like overnight people will become responsible and feed their kids properly. First, there may be no food and second, if the parents are druggies/drunks that is a piss poor argument. I always ask them how they could deny a hungry kid a meal. I working myself into a rage here. Need moar tranks.

      • LadyLaz

        Seriously. Fuck the kids over what their stupid parents do….. Jesus H. Christ. I can’t…. I can’t…..

        • IKR? Most of these people are the same as me-basically working class who I know have had hard times in the past. I just don’t get it. We waste so much food in this country that it’s a sin.
          Something’s gotta give here. This shit cannot stand. I live in NYS so I have fair to good representation but citizens in other states have got to get on their reps hard. Sorry for the rant.

  • gamera23

    Why don’t those lazy olds and disabled and kindergarteners get a job and make their own sandwiches?!

    • chicken thief

      It’s their own goddamned fault for not being born rich and healthy and staying young, right, Mulvz?

      • Not only will hunger be an issue, now you can freeze to death instead as HEAP funds are also on the chopping block.
        I wish there was a way for liberals/progressives to align with sane RWingers to stage a massive protest at the WH. Wishful thinking I guess.
        Also,too, Ryan stated that health care is neither a right or entitlement so I guess Congress shouldn’t have that “right” either.

    • puredog

      Or get a wife!

  • laughingnome

    Paul Ryan will lead the seniors in a modified PX90 workout via Skype as a cost saving measure.

    • Zyxomma

      Who’s going to pay for internet access without food?

  • chicken thief

    Even if we pretend that grandma keeling over from hunger is pretty much ok, has anyone seem an estimate of how many jerbs are going to be lost with all this belt tightening?

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      3200 at State alone is one figure I read.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    I am seriously considering not filing f*d*r*l taxes anymore. (And also writing in sovereign citizen-ese, which is suddenly sounding like a plan.) My income is all 1099; just gonna have my clients pay me in hard ameros.

  • Relativicus

    To me, the most offensive bit about this isn’t the cruelty or heartlessness. Rather, it’s his use of the coal miner and the single mother in Detroit as if he, or anyone in the administration, gives the tiniest fuck about either except for how fast they can die.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Contracts for all the new military hardware goes to foreign-owned corporations in 3…2…1…

    Also, what do you bet the Trump Boyz are madly buying up defense companies even as we speak?

    • Aileen

      I’m sure you’re right about team Trump investing in defense companies, but I’m not so sure about the foreign-owned corporations part. We totally dominate the world when it comes to building death machines. USA! USA! USA!

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Building the death machines, but not the ingredients for them.

  • Flashman

    If the school kids were really “hungry”, they would let us harvest their organs. God, it’s hard to find the snark any more. The next step is the Soylent Green jobs program.

  • SpideySenser

    The way he was mangling those acronyms, I’m not sure if I should go clubbing at CBGBs or shopping at BCBG.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    “We’re not going to spend [money] on programs that cannot show that they actually deliver the promises that we’ve made to people.”

    They need peer-reviewed studies that show that feeding people is a good thing? Or that by feeding people when you’ve said your mission is to feed people, you are delivering your promises?

    What’s next, do they want scientists to prove that clean air and water are good for the nation’s health before…oh, right…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d4e0c2ef65c956d7ca460a095af54a0f18a51793a4a955691a46bbb5c49e71f2.jpg

  • pgjack

    If young people are hungry and not ell educated they can join the military, the largest socialist program in the world. Once in the military they can get free food for themselves and their families, are medical care and education for themselves and their kids. Sure they might have to kill a few people, some of them enemies, and maybe get killed or maimed themselves, but that’s the price of a free meal. Maybe Trump can change the rules so that little children can sign up, I’ve read that other countries have been using child soldiers. I’m sure parents wouldn’t mind especially the good christian folks who think war is just dandy.

    • Proud Liberal

      Shit. Might as well sign up the oldz. They are going to die anyway.

      • doktorzoom

        John Scalzi got a bestseller out of the idea.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      Actually… the military ain’t such a great gig. The military has (had???) standards nowadays and have been turning the kidz theze dayz away because they’re too fat (yeah, screw nutrition), aren’t smart enough, have criminal records or smoked the loco weed. And unless they’ve been in for a while the pay and benefits kinda suck–especially the MREs (a friend who was in Iraq had a minor conniption fit because he didn’t get his preferred pack of candy with his MRE–at least give the man HIS CANDY!!!!)

      But ho ho ho… building a first-class military requires investment in what? National education, nutrition, and wellness initiatives. A fucked up. unhealthy, uneducated poor society does not a good military make.
      http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/recruiting-standards-may-change-secdef-says

    • Villago Delenda Est

      The problem of course is the reason we have all these social welfare programs is that during WWII, the military was appalled by the low levels of literacy and the frail undernourished bodies of draftees, and the situation as it existed then was a definite national security issue.

      So some people are missing the big picture. Bigly. Yoougely.

  • Courser_Resistance

    Doing away with Meals on Wheels is just dandy. That’s about the only way my 84 year old dad gets to eat. I’m very estranged but I’ve been there before when meals are delivered.

    Oh well, my brother who voted for Gary Johnson lives just a few houses away. I’m sure that’s what he wanted to spend his time doing now that all his kids are out of the house.

  • Oneofthebobs

    Just the incentive I needed to cancel retirement. MAGA!

  • MamaBrown

    That this asshole made these statements about how its not cost effective to feed hungry kids and make sure someone’s grammie has a hot meal and some company, an asshole named Mulvaney for fuck sake, bedecked in shamrocks, makes my blood boil. Hey Mick! Chances are pretty good some English landowner said something similar about some not too distant relative of yours, as she lay starving in some filthy hut somewhere back in the old country. Fuck you sideways with a fucking shillelagh, you fucking hypocrite.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Then sentence him to the wearin’ of the green shoes.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    Ensuring that old poor people never eat is really just helping the Ryan health care plan kill people faster. I don’t know why you libtards can’t see the efficiency gains here.

    • mardam422

      Less old sick people means lower premiums for us!!!

  • AJ Milne

    OT (sorta) …

    Nancy Ann DeParle on Pod Save America on:

    . how incredibly fucking awful is TrumpCouldn’tCareLess, how generally cruel is going to be the withdrawal of services especially from women

    . how pervasive and dishonest is the big lie about the ACA being ‘snuck through’. (Reality: there were extensive efforts to do bipartisan consultation)

    . likewise the big lie about the ACA being so terrible. (Reality: it could be improved, sure, but it _did_ help a lot of people.)

    • FlownΩver

      ACA probably saved FlownYounger’s life.

  • Aileen

    If there is any silver lining to this, it’s that reducing domestic spending across the board and increasing military spending and funding the wall against Mexico is literally what the GOP runs on. This is what Republicans vote for. So, now they have their chance to see the results of their vote. Hopefully, it will make them think a little harder about their priorities before they vote next time.

    • Panika MCD

      the voters on the Mexican border have been sent notices that their properties are being condemned so that the wall can be built.

  • PixieThis

    Sick fucking bastards. I hope there’s a hell where these people will eventually burn and suffer for all eternity.

    • Truthiness2U

      Yes, the lack of hell for people like this, is annoying to this atheist. Because I don’t believe they will be punished to the degree they should in this lifetime.

  • mardam422

    Starving people is good in the sense that we didn’t ask someone for money to feed that person. OMG, I just can’t…I just can’t.

    • Panika MCD

      but we’ll require money to defend those people in court when they rob Walmart. Gideon v. Wainwright.

  • mardam422

    I think I’m beginning to feel the country return to greatness now.

    • Panika MCD

      is it because POTUS looks like a pants peeing weakling who’s afraid of refugee children?

  • cmd resistor

    I like to picture people like this guy as residents of inferior nursing homes, and they are the guy everyone hates so staff is not nice to them. Also, too, no one comes to visit them because they were mean motherfuckers all their lives.

  • Panika MCD

    it’d be awesome if some plucky researchers assembled every study on these two topics which have been created since WWII and mailed them directly to Mulvaney’s office. I’m sure he’d love it if his office became unenterable because it’s full of research papers.

    also too: it’s worth mentioning that these programs have mandates to try to get their goods from farms regulated by the USDA so that, you know, we’re getting rice from here and not China. so they also too would put a 20 metric fuck tons of farmers out of business and sending the rural US into an economic tailspin–like they didn’t plan to already.

  • oldmechanician

    I am thoroughly enjoying the snark and outrage, and I’m sure everyone is aware of this but I am going to grind my axe some more anyway.
    Ahem, the “the beleaguered taxpayer can’t afford these expensive programs” shtick is a huge piece of misdirection. They(big business interests that depend on cheap labor) are not afraid of taxes. What they are really afraid of losing is their semi-slave workforce. Programs that feed, educate, provide health insurance, and provide unemployment insurance, and retirement pensions, etc, to the workforce gives that workforce the option to not accept jobs that pay half a day’s pay for a full day of work. Their business model depends on desperate, poorly educated, frightened workers. A strong social safety net threatens to take away that captive golden goose.

    • Panika MCD

      but the food we free up for their workers at home by feeding the kids means they don’t have to provide lunches on the company’s dime…

  • parachihuahua

    Contact your governor and your state and county representatives and ask them how we are going to make up for the shortfall from the lack of funding through Housing and Urban Development.

    Also, contact the local news and ask them the same thing. We need the cities, counties and state to understand that they are constituents and they need to put pressure on our federal representatives too. Here are the not theoretical numbers and programs for our state, but google your state and CDBG and see what you stand to lose. This is what I have been sending to every representative I can find and every paper and local broadcast news:

    From Director Mulvaney’s press conference yesterday, my concern is that Utah cities, counties and the state are constituents that need to contact our federal representatives about how this budget will affect them.

    The Director said that he can’t defend giving CDBG’s anymore for programs that don’t work, and in our state, this will be the impact that he believes are the states’ responsibilities:

    Bear River Association of Governments, $704,925
    Five County Area Association of Governments $776,439
    Mountainland Area Association of Governments $526,300
    Six County Area Association of Governments $561,532
    Southeastern Utah Association of Local Governments $501,226
    Uintah Basin Association of Governments $449,402
    Wasatch Front Regional Council $1,080,816

    http://www.jobs.utah.gov/housing/cdbg/projects.html

    How will our cities, counties and states be able to adjust to a shortfall like this? Many people are expressing concern for losing Meals on Wheels, which the Director specifically said is a program that doesn’t show results.

  • chascates

    “Are there no prisons? And the Union workhouses.” demanded Scrooge. “Are they still in operation?”

  • Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie

    I hope that, when he is a wheel chair ridden invalid living in a squalid, roach infested nursing home, his care givers make a point of spitting in his pablum before spooning it into his face.

    • Dr.Zoidberg

      I hope they straight up spit in his face.

      • TootsStansbury

        I hope they smother him with a pillo-I mean votes.

  • Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie

    Think how many old people could be fed if they didn’t have to pay for Bannon’s booze, KaC’s botox, or this asshole’s forehead wax:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c0a43a7c32b9b3de5f3f48d4059140e056734292cebfc2b05af112ffb3b2edd2.jpg

    • MeerkatsRMammals

      I still can’t believe he’s only 31 years old….being evil really does a number on your body!

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    You know what else is not cost effective? Maintaining a standing army, navy, air and marine force in peacetime, a giant, useless wall, health care that is driven by profit, not by actual healthcare, having the POS POTUS play golf every weekend, foreign governments dictating political policy, an entire cabinet dedicated to finding reasons to end their departments, having a white supremacist in a position of power bent on destroying the government and our civil liberties….

  • SadDemInTex

    When will this nightmare end?

    • canes_pugnaces

      It ends with the US broken apart, which is really where we’re headed. I can not tolerate the hatefulness, regressiveness and meanness coming from right. And they, in equal measure, can not abide me. This leads to one place with both parties are intransigent.

      • SadDemInTex

        I think there is a misapprehension on the part of people in the way they see the “red” and “blue” states. I grew up a 5th generation San Franciscan and I’ve lived in Seattle, Portland, NYC, LA, and now Dallas. Texas looks SO red but there was only about a million votes difference between Hillary and Trump (and that is with poor voter turnout and voter suppression directed at mainly Democratic leaning groups). And having grown up in California I can tell you that there are a lot of John Birchers that inhabit the rest of the state outside of the major metropolitan areas. All of the cities are essentially segregated by race and I don’t find that much changing in the many years of going back except now the Bay Area is so expensive that almost all lower middle class and poor people have no way to live in the city anymore. And after seeing that LA had a 12% voter turnout for the recent mayoral race….I am of the opinion that the fracturing is not going to be as easy as everyone seems to think it is. And the talk of CalExit is so preposterous as to defy logic. I hear the same xenophobic crap on the left as on the right….including forcibly moving all right wingers from California. Somehow we must fight the fanaticism from both ends. This is where I just want to scream. I wish someone would disable Trump’s twitter. Where are the hackers when you need them.

        • LadyLaz

          I live in Georgia. The problem is the “winner take all” aspect of how electoral college votes are awarded and the gerrymandering. There are many blue people like me in Georgia. Atlanta is a progressive nirvana compared to most of the rest of the south and has a vibrant and very public LGBTQ community. We just have to break the neck on gerrymandering. Because blue Atlanta (and several other cities) gets smothered by the rest of the state.

          Not like there aren’t plenty of mouth breathers tho.

          We are not as geographically divided as you might think.

          • SadDemInTex

            Exactly my point

  • Jack Tenhet

    Just, fuck these people (with votes). I guess they just ignore the whole “promote the general welfare” part of everything, huh? Yeah, yeah, “but Jeebus!”. Funny thing though, their precious book espouses feeding the poor and also healing the sick. Jeebus didn’t ask for a co-pay or insurance.

    I can’t even try to rationalize these people and their absolutely galling attitudes. Killing people to make a few bucks is no way to live.

  • MeerkatsRMammals

    You’d think these pro-lifers would care a bit more about lives of children & elderly…bastards!!!

    • TootsStansbury

      Haha. Hahahahahaha!

      • MeerkatsRMammals

        Wishful thinking…I know…

    • Dudleydidwrong

      Pro life? Only until the little one makes an appearance. Then it’s fair game at best and an impediment to making America great for most of the Republican faithful.

  • Dr.Zoidberg

    Please. Stop. My head and my desk can’t take any more punishment.

  • James Lamere

    This is the true face of the republican party—this lying piece of shit saying that feeding hungry people is just not cost-effective ,while Trump costs us millions hauling him and his ass-hole thieving blood-suckers back and forth to Mir-Lardo every week-end !!

  • TakingAmes

    Mick Mulvaney needs to go fuck himself. I’d add “and the horse he rode in on,” but I can’t inflict that on a horse.

  • Professor Fate

    Ye gods what a monster.

  • Swampay

    ok, let’s be perfectly clear on what he’s arguing: Block grants are inefficient because they fund a lot of crappy programs. The good they do is not worth the waste they encompass.

    That right there is enough to make my head explode. ‘Cause remember, what are block grants? It’s when the feds decide that a certain goal can be better accomplished by giving chunks of raw money to the states than by continuing to fund it directly at a federal level.

    So it’s like, “Ya know, we’re not so good at the ‘feeding old people’ thing, why don’t the states take (part of) the money and take a whack at it?” We get all the stuff from the right about “freedom to experiment at a local level” and “making decisions that fit each state’s needs” and such. On the left (what used to be the center) we get “oh great, let’s fund more layers of bureaucracy and corruption. That’ll help” and “yeah, but what if the states want to spend their “helping people” money on fancy new stadiums and shit?” and “wait, after all is said and done there’s less total money here to spend on feeding old people” and “How do we know you’re not going to renege on this later?” but those are all foolish concerns.

    So NOW, NOW, the feds are all “you know, you guys aren’t any better at feeding poor people than we are! Look at all these extra layers of bureaucracy and corruption! And for all we know you’re using your poor people money on stadiums and shit!”

    Now it seems to me, here, that a logical response to that might be “ok, federal government, you take this responsibility back and go ahead and feed the old people directly” Hahaha, silly rabbit. Tricks are for Republicans! They just take back the block grants, blame the states, and to hell with the old people! Problem solved!

    All of this would be merely enraging, and perhaps not gouge-my-own-eyes-out-with-a-spork enraging if they weren’t AT THE SAME GODDAM TIME! suggesting that, “oh look, what shall we do about Medicaid? We should block grant that shit, because (all the same stupid reasons)”

    FHFIEHFHIEFXOPIR#A(*&&*(E*&EWQ

    That was not my cat walking on the keyboard, that was an attempt to represent the steaming rage that is coming out of my ears right now.

    • Makes me wonder if when the move SS and Medicare to Block Grants, if they won’t pull the same stunt

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        Oh ye of little faith! OF COURSE THEY WILL!

  • HazooToo

    This needs to be said a thousand fucking times so that it sinks in… $127,000 PER DAY to protect Trump Tower, $3 million every trip to Mar-a-Lago. And he goes every weekend. But it’s WE THE FUCKING PEOPLE who need to grow up and stop spending our money on stupid shit. Fuck ALL of them with a rusty goat.

    • Charon_69

      It needs to be broken down further to be effective
      Someone pull up the avg cost per meal and run it against the daily security costs etc
      “For every trip Trump takes to Florida we could feed X,000 seniors-choose”
      -how is the DCCC/DNC incapable of putting this together?

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      The rusty goat is a new image for me. I applaud this fine contribution to the Wonkette vernacular.

      Oh, and fuck them all with a rusty garden weasel of votes.

  • LadyLaz

    I just can’t.

    My kids go to a good public school. I am constantly sending them supplies. I’ll go to Costco and buy a ton of tissues or wipes. I’ll buy baggies and markers and glue sticks. I’ve bought children’s underwear and analgesic medications (like Tylenol) for the nurse’s station. And I already pay a ton of taxes. One of my friends who has no kids, gets grumpy about it (hello, my money) because she’s all “why don’t their parents take care of their responsibilities.” And I said, “I really don’t care.” Because education is the single most reliable way to get forward in the world, and I won’t deny one child the opportunity to learn because his parents are smucks or they couldn’t afford a goddamn pencil.

    I was pretty heartbroken after the election, but today, now…. I believe our country truly is broken to its soul. Broken. Meals on Wheels costs nothing. Jesus F. Christ NOTHING.

    • Jim Johnson

      Getting big tax cuts for the filthy rich is just not a high priority for me and most decent human beings. Mulvany does not seem like a decent human being.

    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

      Not just that, but also education, and adequate food, for our citizens as a whole is the ONLY FUCKING way TO HAVE A FUNCTIONING, SUCCESSFUL COUNTRY, ffs.

    • richardgrabman

      My late mother’s response to those ” why don’t their parents take care of their
      responsibilities.” types was to say that if the kids weren’t educated, they wouldn’t be paying into Social Security, or would be robbing old farts without kids to protect them.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
  • CeeQ

    Shorter Mulvaney – “Are there no workhouses? No prisons? My taxes go to pay for them, the poor must go there! …….if they would rather die then they best do it! And decrease the surplus population!”

    In this version of A Christmas Carol, the Christmas Ghosts all show up at once and just take turns punching him in the Netherlands.

    • Resistance Fighter MausFeet

      And then ignoance and want pop out from beneath Christmas Present’s robes and poke him in the eyes. With votes.

      • CeeQ

        Brilliant! Annnnnd SCENE.

    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

      No, Scrooge goes, “What? Are you serious? Dude. Come ON dude.”

      • CeeQ

        hahahahaha

        Scrooge – dude, don’t be a dickhead. enough already.

        • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

          Wait! Mulvaney IS THE GHOST OF CHRISTMAS FUTURE! He’s the one who shocks Scrooge into actually changing.

  • whitroth

    I can’t tell you what I wanted, and still want, to do to this subhuman piece of garbage when I read this earlier….

    • Bongstar420

      Make sure meals on wheels only serves the rich?

      That would be proper justice. Only rich people deserve to eat food…well, and their slaves when they give them permission.

  • sgt. jmk of the résistance

    I have nothing but “fuck these assholes… fuck them with VOTES” to say.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      Votes? No. With chain saws. Sorry. If this gets me banned, I’ll take it with a smile.This cretinous ball of shit’s definition of “compassion” is beyond anything I can imagine. The word “compassion” in Greek is related to the human stomach and gut–that’s where compassion was perceived, deep in the human body. This man has none. He’s a gutless, heartless shell.

  • Begin Anew Day

    It’s amazing how such naked, callous cruelty is labeled “fiscal responsibility” when a white person does it.

    If the previous president had proposed such cuts it would have been “RACE WAR!”

  • Iron Monkey

    Jesus said: “Have fun in the next life, motherfucker”.

    Or something like that (Matthew 25: 41 – 46)

    ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not
    minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment

  • akryan

    I have experience with free food programs in school. Teenage boys need to be fed constantly. Keeping their bellies full is the best classroom management tool I have. It doesn’t just help them study, it’s better for the entire classroom. It’s great for them after school too. Anyone involved in an activity gets a free meal. For instance a typical football after school routine goes 1) grab your meal 2) head to study hall 3) go to practice. I’ll admit that there is a significant amount of the free food that doesn’t get eaten every day, but in the great pantheon of gov’t waste, it’s pretty far down the list.

    • Darrell Imaginarian

      Good for the farmers. That’s also a piece of the puzzle. Govt picks up somewhat undesirable ag products at discount price, then redistributes to schools, etc.

      • Bongstar420

        The government shouldn’t be contributing to the profit of those who are not struggling to survive.

        • Darrell Imaginarian

          That’s a legitimate argument. What Republicans are running into is the fact that rural white constituencies already do great in the federal budget… all those white rural Senators have been looking after them for decades. Once you start taking a meat ax to “unnecessary programs” in the budget, the most obviously unnecessary serve rural interests who overwhelmingly voted for Trump.

          • Bongstar420

            Its all just a struggle to acquire privilege so you can have power over others that don’t have the privilege. Thats why its OK to subsidize corn and gasoline but not mandate living wage work.

    • Weevie

      Yup. Feed good food, or even almost good food and kids think better, have better endurance and have much better moods.
      Athletes with good coaches learn that really fast.

      • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

        I mean, who thinks a flourishing, successful, productive country needs thinks like healthy, well-nourished citizens?

    • Bongstar420

      Don’t worry. If their poors, the goal is no school.

      It ensures no chance they will ever compete with the rich for power.

  • Bitter Scribe

    My brother got Meals on Wheels. He died unexpectedly two weeks ago. We’re still grieving, but at least he won’t have to cope with the MoW cuts.

    • Jeffery Campbell

      I’m very sorry for your loss.

    • ltmcdies

      ((((hug))) to you and your fam…..

      • Bitter Scribe

        Thanks.

    • Red Bellied Black Shake

      Condolences Scribe. Losing family is hard :(

    • Zyxomma

      My condolences to you and yours. There was a kid in my elementary school who obviously never got enough to eat. I used to give him half my sandwich and a piece of fruit (which I’d put in my lunch for that purpose), and I knew that helped. I never told anyone about it before. I didn’t even remember it until I read this.

      • Bitter Scribe

        Good for you, and welcome to Trump’s America. As long as there are people like you in the world, why should techbros and Wall Street geniuses have to be taxed?

      • Victoria

        You are a wonderful person!

        • Zyxomma

          Thanks. I had a Jewish mother who always tried to overfeed me, so lunch was always more than I could eat. I was happy to share, and did it on the downlow, because I knew what it felt like to be embarrassed. Poor kid always wore the same shirt, every day, but it was always clean.

  • Longstreet63

    Scurvy builds Character.

  • CATMAN

    Is Mulvaney using Oliver Twist as a policy manual?

    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

      I think all of Dickens. “Now that sounds just fine to me!” He has always thought Scrooge was such a softie.

    • Husband Of Mrs God

      Or Jonathan Swift, originator of modest proposals.

  • Lefty Wright

    How many billions of dollars have been spent in the last 20 years on defense projects that have been cancelled? How many others have had major cost over runs and failed to deliver promised advancements? And how much are we spending on Trump’s Meals on Wings to send him to Florida for dinner?

    • Bongstar420

      Its all profits for the rich..SO it is good!

  • Weevie

    This budget thing is a sham. It only affects discretionary spending and is a trivial amount compared to the overall budget. The $54 billion for defense is like .1% of the total DoD budget. His cuts will save nothing, absolutely nothing, overall.

    What it really is, is hate. The programs that affect people a lot and are popular to those who possess kindness and ee-gads! morals are the ones being cut. They cost peanuts but do satisfy Trump’s desire to anger and hurt people.

    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

      And Bannon. We really, really can’t underestimate the sheer cruelty, brutality, and war-desire of those two.

      • Bongstar420

        He always looks like he is at war with his own liver even.

  • TootsStansbury

    This shit is as serious as the “business transfer files” from his first presser. Sham budget, sham administration. Sham not wow.

  • Eric Boyer

    This piece of shit is evil personified.

    • Even worse he’s like the black rock at the end of Time Bandits

      • Husband Of Mrs God

        Don’t touch it!

  • boredcatlady

    My twilight zone punishment is like yours, but beginning before he falls out of bed:

    “As Mick Mulvaney awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself transformed in his bed into a monstrous vermin.”

    • Dudleydidwrong

      In my vision he went to bed in that same form. I’d say he was born as a monstrous vermin. My wish is that Kafka’s cockroach and friends would devour him quickly.

  • pixeloid

    Hey, this new budget is awesome! Even WaPo says so, although WaPo sounds a bit like Wonkette in this article.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2017/03/16/trumps-budget-makes-perfect-sense-and-will-fix-america-and-i-will-tell-you-why/

  • tehbaddr

    That’s OK. I’ll invite him by to witness first hand and take part in my solution to starving. After all it is nearly BBQ season!

  • Bongstar420

    If you think its OK to let people starve in the streets for being undesirable, then you need to starve in the streets for being undesirable.

    These losers are just looking for every advantage they can get over as many people as possible…..after all, what chances does a genius born to poverty who’s IQ is diminished by circumstances have at becoming their boss? 1 out of 50,000,000?

  • pretzelcuatl

    How hard does the Administration have to search to find people who are such dicks? Maybe I’ve just unconsciously groomed my social circle over the years, but certainly no one in my family or any of my friends could ever make such heartless statements.

    • Bongstar420

      Are they billionaires or their sychophants? That might help if they were.

    • Husband Of Mrs God

      All they had to do was put out some good dick bait.

    • Mike

      Trump only hires the best…

  • richardgrabman

    Seems to be a trend, at least in conservative (republican party) governments. A friend of mine needed to “justify” teaching Philosophy to her state government. Surprisingly enough, Philosophy Majors do earn more over their working life than most other majors. So there!

    • kareemachan

      Really? I’m serious here, as I know somebody who graduated with a degree in Philosophy and wants to go on to get his PhD.

      • richardgrabman

        I never saw what it was she submitted to the State, but apparently it is true. I suspect the data was skewed by a few internet zillionaires having undergrad degrees in Philosophy, and maybe a few of the smarter scions of robber baron dynasties taking advantage of the opportunity of a decent education.

  • richardgrabman

    How about cooking up poor students, and serving them to Meals on Wheels recipients… win-win!

    • Husband Of Mrs God

      Another modest proposal.

    • Opalescent Riddles

      Vice-versa works, too: cooking up (former) Meals on Wheels recipients and serving them to poor students.

      Oh, wait, we’re gonna close those poor students’ “failing” schools, so they’re just poor children. Fuck ’em all then: the youngs, the olds, the poors, etc.

  • folderol

    We the Rich People, hold these truths to be self-evident: in order to form a dystopian future, do ordain that all of us are created special, that the congress and middle-class exist to enrich us further, that poor people are worthless scum unless tending our flower beds or doing our laundry, and establish the doctrine of “We got ours, want more, and will screw you to get it!”

  • Bebecca

    This is the problem with business people being in government, they think everything should turn a profit and can’t think in terms of helping people.

    • Opalescent Riddles

      And they forget that the long-term welfare (as in health, etc.) of their constituents IS a valid measure of “profit”. If people are secure in their housing, nutrition, and education, they can be SO much more productive to society, and their children will be as well.

      • Bebecca

        Every xmas, we scoff at Scrooge “let them die and decrease the surplus population” but that is really the republicans’ mantra.

  • Anita Ledford

    Capital “C” Crazy.

  • phoenix00

    The living embodiment of [citation needed]

  • “We’re not going to spend [money] on programs that cannot show that they actually deliver the promises that we’ve made to people.”

    Does this mean that if we spend more money on nuclear missiles, that we’ll actually USE them this time? About time someone with sense in the white house!

  • Transreason Maidenheader

    I’m sure it’s already been said here repeatedly, but I just don’t see how there can be any political strategy behind kicking AARP and old people (like me) to the curb. Why would this NOT be deadly in the midterms? Help?

    • Tiny kaiju

      These dickbags can’t see anything but their own short term gains. Literally nothing exists outside of their own experience. That and “Fuck everyone else and devil take the hind most” is their motto.

    • Duke

      Gotta get it all done know and then filibuster in the senate.

    • Victoria

      Maybe they’re hoping to starve us and deny us healthcare so we just die. Problem solved, they think.

  • middleclassman1

    Do you know what program has shown it hasn’t delivered what was promised? Trickle down economics end it now!

  • It’s compassionate conservatism, minus the compassion.

    • mary5920

      That’s exactly what we said about Dubyah. Only this is even worse–or maybe, the inevitable result of going down that dark road.

    • David Lee

      In other words, bog-standard conservatism.

    • Duke

      I always thought the compassion was for “job creators” and hereditary rich.

  • Tiny kaiju

    Dear Mr. Rich Asshole Budget Person,
    I pay taxes too and I would much rather not have malnourished, uneducated children roaming the streets or my elders starving to death in an unheated apartment. Beside the alledged reduction in my taxes is a negligible off set by your cronies devouring my retirement savings. In conclusion, fuck you very much. The world would be a better place if you fell into an open manhole onto pointy Legos.

  • Prolecat

    See, Republitarians think the “proper” use of tax dollars is bombs and corporate welfare. If old people and children are hungry they can go get jobs at those corporations the taxpayers are subsidizing.

  • Foocatchoo

    There’s no such thing as Meals on Wheels; there are trucks that have wheels and deliver food; FAKE program!

  • i’mjustaskingthequestion

    They love their babies until they are born.

    • angryspittle

      Nah, they just love fetuses, hate babies.

  • ContextIsKey

    Y’know, if Hillary had been elected we’d have a taco truck on every corner by now and we wouldn’t NEED Meals on Wheels.

    • Duke

      Are corn tacos gluten free? How about lactose-free cheese?

      My mom is very particular.

  • Mike

    There’s good news…Labor Sec is talking about rewriting the child labor laws so there’s that…

  • Seriously, is this any different from any random republican speech? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYaq3mpTksU

  • kareemachan

    What a fuckwad.

  • OppressedMass

    Mick Mulvaney is a horrible, pathetic excuse for a human being.
    That is all.

  • BeatnikBob

    First thing I saw him at that podium, he reminded me of this guy:

    Eddie Marsan, British actor. Usually plays a short, tough bad guy. Always the last one to learn the score.

  • angryspittle

    Where the fuck do they dredge up such horrible, miserable excuses for human beings like Mulvaney and so many other utter immoral unethical assholes like Bannon?

  • Ray in VT

    These old, poor, and disabled people have had it too good for too long, what with having food and all. It’s time to kick them to the curb I guess.

  • empf

    I HATE THESE PEOPLE WITH A PASSION. Makes you hope that horrible things befall them, in the most ironic of ways.

  • OldMayfly

    As part of my job in the federal part of the Food Stamp program, I visited an historic black college, where the athletes volunteered to deliver free lunch to low-income kids during their summer vacation “sports camp.” Those kids looked up to the athletes as though they were in the presence of Superman. That program was a positive influence all around.

  • Unfortunately the right is now justifying cutting the MOW funding because private donations (more than likely from the left) are rolling in to the charity. It’s a catch 22 situation.

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  • Jo Mathie

    Jesus America what are you doing? I mean really. I’m a Brit and we’ve got the whole Brexit nightmare going on, but it’s like Republicans are literally trying to kill the (poor) population. Meals on Wheels isn’t like the government is ferrying artisan chocolates to people who can’t be bothered to work. My mum helps out with them and it is literally a life saver.

  • this country says it’s about

    “We’re not going to spend [money] on programs that cannot show that they actually deliver the promises that we’ve made to people”

    Glad to hear that we are finally going to stop fighting in the Middle East.

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