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She’s smiling, but she’s going to scare you anyway.

We’ve been covering the story of how Donald Trump’s campaign maybe might have colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election for one thousand years now, it seems. New information comes out every day, Trump administration officials are already resigning and recusing themselves from investigations, and of course there’s that spy document called the Steele Dossier — which was once “unsourced intelligence! pee hookers! this is crazy!” — that’s being confirmed, bit by strange bit, and the pieces are falling into place slowly but surely. It’s nuts! We must get to the bottom of what Russia and Trump did or did not do together, and if that means everybody Trump has ever met has to GO TO JAIL and Trump gets exiled to Gitmo, well so be it!

But on Wednesday night, Rachel Maddow went over something people aren’t really talking about, but they should be. Remember that thing the other day when NBC/MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell became our Hero Journalist of the Day for the first time in her life? She was at the State Department trying in vain to ask Secretary Rex Tillerson how he plans to do his job considering Donald Trump wants to slash the hell out of department funding, Tillerson can’t even seem to get a deputy, State isn’t doing briefings like it used to, and oh yeah, Trump and Tillerson have been effing CLEANING HOUSE, getting rid of career foreign service officers that have been there for DECADES. If by “drain the swamp,” Trump meant “literally destroy one of the most important, longest standing departments of the U.S. government,” then that mission is being accomplished!

Maddow talked about all the things State does to support democracy and human rights around the world, including supporting dissident movements in nations like, well, you know, RUSSIA, and how if there is one part our American-ly Exceptionalist System Vladimir Putin would probably like to see destroyed, it’s State. It was mean terrible Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, after all, who in 2011 called Russia’s bullshit parliamentary elections out for the sham bullshit elections they were, and Russians were taking to the streets protesting the regime in power. Putin blamed the protests on Hillary, and by extension, on State. As Maddow points out, that infamous Steele Dossier says part of why Putin wanted Hillary to lose was his “fear and hatred” of her, because she was so willing to beat his ass when she was at State.

Maddow notes that Tillerson, the man from Exxon who holds Clinton’s former position, is a guy who had never met Donald Trump before he was nominated, but he sure as hell was already pals with Uncle Vlad Putin, having been awarded Russia’s Order Of Friendship in 2013. Putin gave it to Tillerson himself! Of course Tillerson’s Exxon also did YOOGE DEALS with Russia’s state-owned oil company Rosneft. (Yes, that’s the same Rosneft that Trump stooge Carter Page attended meetings with, about the sale of 19.5% of the company to — ??? — in exchange for a loosening of U.S. sanctions. The Trump campaign, having originally denied that Page took that trip, now admits it. After the election, 19.5% of Rosneft was indeed sold to ???. FUNNY!)

So what Rachel Maddow is asking is, if Putin really wanted to destroy the State Department, if Putin wanted to destroy American institutions that threaten his own power, what better guy is there than Rex Tillerson to hold the very important job of standing there and looking pretty while Trump dismantles the “administrative state” (in Steve Bannon’s words), and in the process strengthens his Russian butt-buddy Vladimir Putin?

And her bigger question, the question that, as she notes, nobody is really asking, is, aside from getting to the bottom of what Russia and Trump DID to undermine American democracy during the 2016 election, what are they STILL DOING RIGHT NOW to undermine us?

Was the election interference a one-off deal where Putin vanquishes Hillary and then goes home fat and happy? Or was it part of something bigger, where Putin is using Trump — remember, the Steele Dossier, much of which is still unverified, alleges that Russia has been cultivating Trump as an asset FOR YEARS — to achieve much wider goals?

Here, watch a video and let Rachel Maddow scare you:

AYIIIIIIEIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Either our tinfoil hats are fitting just right these days, or YOU ARE CRAZY AND HOLY SHIT. Lately, every time we feel like we are the crazy ones, it turns out in the end that you are crazy, so we’re just going to continue with that assumption until we’re proven wrong.

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  • Msgr_MΩment

    Rachel Maddow Would Like To Scare The Shit Out Of You Now

    What part of “lesbian” is NOT scary as shit?

  • weejee

    Rachel rules the teevee talkie news. Her basketball game is pretty good too.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      I could use one of those killer cocktails she mixes. Especially during one of her scary-ass shows.

      • Nasty Candy Apple

        I watched one where she put a drop of Angostura Bitters on a sugar cube and then poured champagne over it, and it looked like the coolest chemistry experiment ever.

        • Riley Whodat Venable

          Champagne Cocktail. Straight from a 1940s film noir.

  • Nounverb911

    I watched it and she did.

  • TJ Barke

    Send Trump and comp. to gitmo!

    • wide_stance_hubby

      I have been saying all along that the Trumpian cabinet is just like what they tell us Gitmo is: the worst of the worst.

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      Leavenworth. That’s where they send traitors.

  • Nounverb911
  • Nasty Candy Apple

    Well, if I’m going to get bad news, I prefer it coming from Rachel.

  • Treg Brown

    It’s 8:15 here Evan!!! 8:15 IN THE MORNING!

    Here’s a baby hippopotamus.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b614713feebd06ac89e5cb77b7ba5e79abd1f167d1c396e7a223096f78f55a5.gif

    • Lance Thrustwell

      The cute meter, it is breaking.

    • Doug Langley

      Yeah, but they they become teenagers and stay out all night and wreck your car and all that.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        And then they become adults and bite you in half at the slightest provocation.

        • Lascauxcaveman

          If you’re scoring by “number of humans killed” they are the most deadly animals in all of Africa. Lions are slacker pantywaists compare to hippos.

  • msanthropesmr

    Are these assholes smart enough to pull this off?

    • eka

      they can pull off a lot of shit as long as republicans in congress value power and party over any type of decency.

      • Swampgas_Man

        It’s not that they’re so smart, it’s that a percentage of American people are so dumb.

        • eka

          and getting dumber as we gut education and send them all to religious schools.

    • Asterix

      That’s a question I keep asking myself. I think it’s more of a confluence of many things that came together in a perfect storm.

      I’m not sure you have to be smart just, in Trump’s case, stupid enough to believe anything. In Bannon’s case, paranoid and delusional enough to believe that government, as it exists, is out to get him, and therefore must be destroyed. I’m not sure Putin and company knew enough about the deadly cocktail that was being mixed in the Trump campaign, but they knew enough about Trump to know he was also paranoid and delusional and enough of a patsy to cut them a break. I also think Trump is in YUGE with the Russian Mafia and other Oligarch friends of Putin’s.

      Bannon is the plus plus for Putin – the presidents senior adviser wants to destroy the US as much as he does.

  • Nounverb911
  • TJ Barke

    We best get set for the invasion…

    • weejee

      We have met the enemy, and s/he is us.

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        Ok Pogo.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Canada is coming to our rescue?

      • eka

        please?

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        Mexico might help us, if we remove Trump.

      • Liberal Fascist Ron

        Yes, but we expect coffee and donuts.

        • Lascauxcaveman

          You got it. But bring some of that MacIntosh’s Toffee when you come, eh?

          • Liberal Fascist Ron

            Bars or bags?

        • LaylaOhGee

          But you’re the ones with Tim Horton’s. Our Dunkin Donuts is a pale substitute.

          • Liberal Fascist Ron

            It’s the thought that counts.

  • Mormos

    The fall of western civilization is at hand. Hold onto your butts.

    • Inner Venom

      The future of the west hinges upon Angela Merkel against Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

      If that isn’t a role reversal I don’t know what is.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Hold onto your towel and drink heavily. The Vogons are here!

      • willi0000000

        . . . and have some peanuts.

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      It’s not falling, but there’s way fewer people holding it up than there used to be.

  • anwisok
    • janecita

      OMG, that turtle is adorable!

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Sen. McConnell is an innie! Squeee.

  • Inner Venom

    “She was at the State Department trying in vain to ask Secretary Rex Tillerson how he plans to do his job considering Donald Trump wants to slash the hell out of department funding..”

    Well you know, the GOP is not very good at critical thinking or cause and effect. It’s like how Paul Ryan and his buddies want austerity while Donny wants to pump so much money into public infrastructure? How do they plan on reconciling those things?

    Spoiler: They don’t know!

    • eka

      that’s assuming donny meant it about public infrastructure.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        LOL. Donny says whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear. The statement got applause during the campaign, but that’s the end of it’s utility.

    • TJ Barke

      He’s “investing in infrastructure” by basically selling off the infrastructure.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        They really are working from Putin’s playbook, aren’t they?

        • Liberal Fascist Ron

          He might as well be sitting on on Cabinet meetings.

          • willi0000000

            Skype?

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “I believe in Supply Side office management. Cut funding, and let the magic of the marketplace supply you with personnel, copier toner, and paper clips.”
      — Rex Tillerson

      • Msgr_MΩment

        …while the Invisible Hand grabs you by the privates.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    And if that don’t scare you, check out these charming Trumpenazis:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu9AgVQXM4k

    • Nasty Candy Apple

      My dad gave me his Israeli-made Desert Eagle. Go ahead, come and genocide me, cosplay Nazis. I’m waiting.

      • Crank Tango

        Nice! The .50?

    • TJ Barke

      I’m getting pretty stabby about this…

    • Mpeg

      well if the narrator’s correct, that Maricopa Co had more concentration of Trump votes than any other county in the U.S., then I reckon death chants and anger bears are a reality in such a place and not just exaggeration-for-effect~

    • Inner Venom

      When I first learned about WWII I thought to myself: “I sure am glad those Nazis were beaten and everyone loves each other now”.

      What a naive boy I was.

      • Pilotshark

        the war to end all wars!

        in a way it did, cause we have not been at a real WAR in a long time, conflicts, police actions etc…

    • shivaskeeper

      Maricopa county. Was there any doubt about that?

      The fake ass “militia” doing security there is making me stabby. The ones who are volunteering their time protecting the border when they could be working, The ones the idiot supporter said where service members even though they weren’t actually part of the government, but they should still count. Bunch of wannabees and washouts. Sorry fucks.

      As far as the liberal genocide, bring it on. It’s not going to go they way they think it is. As usual the one yelling about it can;t wait for it to start. What he’s saying is it it’s something he’s thought about happening, but he’s to cowardly or lazy to start it. Typical blowhard.

      • willi0000000

        question: is “open carry” cosplay for idiots or LARPing for the insecure?

        • shivaskeeper

          Yes. A good percentage of them think one day, any day now, soon for sure, they are going to get to be the hero in their own personal action movie and save the day. You’ll see. It’s going to happen.

          The wannabe faux military “security” on site take a few steps further than most of them.

  • Inner Venom

    “America is an oil company with an army”. ~George Carlin

    • TJ Barke

      More or less…

    • Crystalclear12

      I miss him. This administration would have been the perfect target for him.

  • schmannity

    Red Dawn, a documentary. Who knew?

    • Rick Hill

      Except in this version, the conservatives are fighting the resistance movement

      • Longstreet63

        In that version, too, actually.

        • Rick Hill

          Well, the wolverine yelling Billy Joe bobs, are fighting the resistance

  • Chadwells

    It’s hard to pick just ONE thing coming from these halfwit morons that scares me more than another.

  • Lulu Mac
  • Riley Whodat Venable

    I love Rachel and her team. Who says no one does investigative journalism anymore.

    • Hobbes’ Evil Twin

      It’s a sad commentary when some of the best investigative journalism is coming from a news outlet that still thinks Tweety and Toad are S-M-R-T political analysts.

  • janecita

    Rachel Maddow, scares the living hell out of me every night! I’m regretting that hug I gave her at my cousin’s wedding.

  • Persistent Demme

    OT, sorry!
    Just heard from my daughter in Israel.
    Her husband’s visa to the US has been delayed.
    Their lawyer says that a process that should have taken 3-4 months is now taking 7+ months.
    (I know, shocking!)
    I’ve told her that our congress person, Pelosi, might be able to help.
    My daughter will start a Master’s degree at Rutgers in the fall, so I suggested that Pallone or Rutgers could help.
    Any other ideas?

    • janecita

      Try Chris Christie.

      • Persistent Demme

        Thanks so much!

    • Asterix

      Cory Booker, Senator

      I can’t remember which district Rutgers is in – here’s the list of NJ Dems:

      Donald Norcross (D), NJ-01
      Josh Gottheimer (D), NJ-05
      Frank Pallone (D), NJ-06
      William Pascrell (D), NJ-09

      • janecita

        It depends on the campus. I went to Rutgers Newark, but the biggest campus is in New Brunswick, there is another campus in Camden.

      • Persistent Demme

        Thank you!

    • beavertank

      Spousal visa processing in the US is severely delayed and has been since early last year. The cause seems to be some combination of improperly forecasting demand, slow hiring, and loss of experienced agents coupled with a spike in naturalization applications in the run up to the election that didn’t let up even after the election.

      You could try going through your senator(s), one or both of them should have a liason person for helping constituents with government agencies, but there’s not much they can do. The processing line is long, and the processing speed is slow. Even personal attention from a senator won’t help you jump the line. At seven months, though, the end should be relatively close.

      • eka

        took i think 6 months for fiance visa in 2010, and i’ve read that that’s actually easier than a spouse visa.

        • beavertank

          That’s pretty standard. For consular processing fiancee and spousal visas are about tied in processing time and have been for years and years now. The US side processing normally takes 3-4 months, then working through State to get the visa at the consulate usually adds another 2-3 months to that.

          That’s the normal timing, anyway.

      • Persistent Demme

        Thanks!

  • Michael Smith

    OT but check out this piece of right-wing propaganda that popped up on my Facebook wall today: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/588a7c354d01d60a300d7bc0fa8e0985661ce2bfaf6a6d91f36c6814c8d0d302.png

    • Michael Smith

      I mean I’ve been blown away since I first saw it. Its like something out of a history textbook covering Nazi propaganda. They photoshopped it to make her lips bigger – and the comments are horrid. I’m surprised they didn’t give her a hook nose and say she controls all the banks.

      • Wild Cat

        We’ve really reached a nadir that could have been prevented if we had a Fairness Doctrine for media, a true understanding of the First Amendment (like Canada does with hate speech), and educating our students on basic civics.

        (O who am I kidding? This nation has been a racist shithole since the days of Jamestown . . . )

    • SadDemInTex

      Holy crap, they photoshopped her lips! Fuckers

    • anon_the_great

      But that’s how red pill racists actually see the world

      • Michael Smith

        If you have to photoshop pictures to make them accurately reflect the things you see in your head, maybe you should get your head checked out lol

        • anon_the_great

          Or get a job with Breitbart

    • Mpeg

      LOL “Ihavethetruth.com”… And yet enough suckers will believe its ‘truthiness’~

      • Michael Smith
        • janecita

          Wingnuts are so fucking easy to manipulate! They really are stupid!

          • Michael Smith

            And so gleefully hateful.

        • beavertank

          I feel like we should be keeping a list of all the people who were suddenly happy to let their racist flag fly when Trump took over. Then hold them up for public scorn when sanity takes over again.

          • Michael Smith

            I know. I feel like there need to be consequences.

        • Lulu Mac

          Never. Read. The. Comments.

        • wide_stance_hubby

          You know, I think I could maybe withhold judgement on anyone who doxed the people on that page.

          • Michael Smith

            Sometimes I’m glad I don’t know how to do stuff like that, because it would be extremely tempting.

          • wide_stance_hubby

            Same here, and why I don’t own a gun.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        It’s quintessential troll naming in action. Any time you see a screen name (or in this case a website name) that uses the word truth, honor, patriot, American, common sense, or any of the other monikers that are so common- you can count on the exact opposite being true.

        • Lord Jim

          Newspeak.

        • willi0000000

          don’t forget freedumb!

  • anon_the_great

    Tillerson will destroy US foreign policy
    Pruitt will finish off public lands
    DeVoss will end education
    Ryan will be sure Americans are sick

    It’s as if there was a conspiracy to destroy the United States of America

    • Rick Hill

      Only because there are a lot of Ameros to be made in the pillaging. It’s nothing personal….

      • anon_the_great

        Oh, I fear this time it IS personal.

        • Liberal Fascist Ron

          Yeah, they’re making it very clear that they don’t just want to dismantle the stuff they don’t like, they’re getting an extra thrill over it hurting people personally. Starting with the man who had to fix the mess W left behind.

          • Lamashtar

            The Republicans made it personal during the Clinton and Obama years. It has never been not personal for them.

    • Royal Ugly Dude

      Zinke will sell off the public lands.
      Pruitt is the one not enforcing pollution laws
      (Fixed that for you)

    • Jenny

      I woke up at midnight seething with rage. Trump is the only thing I’ve been continually pissed about.

      I am so angry. And I feel helpless to stop this. I hate that feeling. How many more protests before the people who can do something, actually do something?

      Russian and internet chaos trolls control the government and it is going as shitty as one would expect but it feels like slow motion.

      • anon_the_great

        Many more protests Grasshopper, many more.

        As this happens self-care is important.

        Remember, we will beat these fuckers.

        • eka

          but how much will we have left by the time we do? and how long will it take to fix the damage?

          • Jenny

            That’s what I am scared of. Sure we might get the smoldering ashes back but fixing it will take a massive coming together which isn’t happening and won’t be quick. And unlikely we will learn from any of our mistakes.

    • schmannity

      Cui bono?

      • laughingnome

        Sonny? Maybe Cher?

      • OneYieldRegular

        Cui Jian.

    • Nounverb911

      It’s as if ZOmbie Ayn Rand was re-enacting Atlas Shrugged in real life.

    • Toledo Window Box

      This is what happens when Vladimir Putin picks the American President.

  • Crystalclear12

    Stay calm and drink on.

  • SadDemInTex

    It really is the end of America

    • Proud Liberal

      That was my first thought after watching her show last night. We must act post haste to stop what is happening.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Republicans have always held State in disdain. Too much diplomacy, too much understanding of other points of view, too much diffusing of tensions, too much important speeches with big words, and not enough shooting at people.

    It’s yet another way Russia and the Republicans have been on the same side for a long time before Trump made it official.

    • Hemp Dogbane

      There was a time when Republicans were patriots and mostly functional in foreign policy debates. Back before ignorance was a virtue.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        A few Republicans anyway. They were kicked out.

        But the Republicans have always had plenty of crazies bitching about the State Department and the foreign service, going back to the debate over the League of Nations.

      • Lord Jim

        Republican patriotism was just a spiel for the suckers. As long as it mobilized the base and kept the military-industrial complex in filthy lucre, sure, wave that flag. Cautiously considering the how to utilize the lives of service personnel, giving them a good living and taking care of them when they fall? Not real good at that.

  • bookish

    http://abc30.com/news/serious-health-safety-concerns-at-immigration-detention-facility/1791852/

    Numerous health risks, poor conditions and safety violations were found at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), detention facility in Orange, California, according to a report released Wednesday.

    • Proud Liberal

      What has happened to America?

      • Liberal Fascist Ron

        ‘The American dream. It came true. Yer lookin’ at it.’
        – the Comedian

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    Trump/11 is an inside job.

  • beavertank

    I think my friends and family have gotten extremely tired of my freaking out about the Trump administration. I’m concentrating my focus on the issues that directly affect my practice areas, but even so there’s almost endless amounts of stuff to freak out about, especially since one of the things I do (and do a lot of) is immigration.

    Somehow I just can’t get them to understand how existential this threat is. It’s not about policy disagreements, it’s about efforts to build a government with people who are personally loyal in all powerful positions and to motivate a good chunk of the people into falling behind the president personally out of fear.

    …it’s an effort to build fascism.

    • beavertank

      It’s slow preparation for a non-military coup.

      • HogeyeGrex

        Ummm. The preparation part is over.

    • Thaumaturgist

      It’s an effort to roll back the New Deal and restore the low wage economy in the United States. Russian oligarchs are their natural allies.

  • Chadwells

    The world sucks and we’re all going to die. May as well kill my ears by listening to Angelina Jolie talk in a british accent, so I’m watching Lara Croft: Tomb Raider.

    • Inner Venom

      The day they make a decent movie based on a video game will be the day Donald Trump acts like a rational human being.

      • Chadwells

        True story.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        I think the first Resident Evil holds up pretty well as a horror movie.

        • Shanzgood

          Mila Whatshervich is stunning!

          • Lord Jim

            Check her out in Ultraviolet. More glorious brainless entertainment. And I mean that in a good way.

          • Shanzgood

            Is that where she’s sort of a vampire? I think I’ve seen that. She’s…very nice to look at. Not just in a “she’s pretty” way but in an “I feel a bit confused” way.

          • Lord Jim

            That’s the one. I don’t really dig the purple mophead look, but it’s all in good fun I guess. :)

      • Royal Ugly Dude

        In Russia, Tetris makes movie out of you.
        Or something.

        • Bad Tom

          Shit falling on you constantly. Completely burying you in multiple layers is success. But not for you.

    • Hemp Dogbane

      I tried watching a political documentary (White Helmets) alternating with about 3 episodes of Archer. Not sure I got the ratio right yet.

      • Chadwells

        HAH!! Actually….that’s a great idea! I’m gonna watch Archer instead!

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Watching Angelina Jolie is no way to go through life, son.

      Or am I kidding myself? Straight guys: is she still hot or a gaunt nutso?

      • Indivisible Snark Tank

        A hot nutso.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        I never really dug her. Nice body at her prime (and yeah, I know how crass and piglike that sounds – I really am sorry), but otherwise, she never did anything special for me.

      • Chadwells

        Nah…I never saw her as lust-worthy. She is beautiful and all….but not in a “I want her” kinda way. Specially after Billy Bob said she was like banging a couch cushion…which I can totally see. Dead fish, if you will.

        • Royal Ugly Dude

          She’s kind of pretty and seems like a good person, but I never understood what the big deal was.

          • Chadwells

            A much nicer way of expressing my sentiment!! Thank you and I totally agree!

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Lesbian opinion, don’t care much for her as a person but she is amazing on-screen.

      • Shanzgood

        Hey, gaunt nutsos are okay!

        • wide_stance_hubby

          Depends on how you define ‘nutso.’

          • Shanzgood

            Just bog standard redhead nutso. XD

          • wide_stance_hubby

            You, I got no problem with!

    • Roadstergal

      I rather enjoyed it as silly entertainment fluff.

      Also, I liked Chris Barrie from Red Dwarf and Spitting Image, so I enjoyed them completely wasting his talent.

      • Chadwells

        I don’t mind it as a “nothing else on” movie…it’s just that her abysmal accent is what I can’t get over.

  • Thaumaturgist

    No snark. This is deadly serious.

    • snark-lurker

      That’s wut she (RMS) said.

    • Proud Liberal

      It’s at critical mass. Something has to be done NOW!

  • Liberal Fascist Ron

    Sooner or later (I hope) this farce of an ‘administration’ will be kicked to the curb and its main players sent to rot away the rest of their lives in solitary somewhere. But it looks more and more like the real damage is to the structure of the American government, and that will take DECADES to fix.
    In the meantime, the US will stop being a major player in international affairs. Indeed, while it will still have a huge, even bloated, military, it won’t have the ability or political will to use it. Pretty much the way Russia is now.
    But I highly doubt that Russia will take its place, which would be Vlad’s main intent. More likely the Pacific trade powerhouse will suddenly be running things, while the US devolves into a large but ineffectual client state.
    Does this seem likely, or am I just being really pessimistic this morning?

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Given that the Steele dossier warns us that Trump’s real goal might be Chinese corruption, you’re not being pessimistic at all

    • I think you’re being a little pessimistic, but not much. It took years for us to recover from Bush’s blunders, and we’re still paying the price for them. What Trump and company are doing will definitely take just as much time, if not a lot more time to fix, and that’s assuming Democrats can take back the House and/or the Senate in 2018. It’s why I really, really want to hurt all those purity “progressives” for their “both parties are the same” bullshit, along with helping torpedo any real progress because it’s never “good enough.”

    • Thaumaturgist

      Samuel Huntington, in his controversial Clash of Civilizations, said that whoever controlled the European heartland would control the world. He also said that Islamic society could not be recognized coiled with the world’s other cultures.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      I would hope the world recognizes how vulnerable we all are to disruption. The UK, France, Hungary, Poland and others have their own Trumps. Technology has become an accelerant of disruption and our collective moderating institutions such as the media and education have yet to fully comprehend much less grapple with remedies.

      • Lara

        That scares me. I’ve been reading that there’s a rise in this white-supremacist ultra-nationalism in Australia and New Zealand, too. It’s world-wide, and we’ve lead the way. The world is becoming very scary very fast.

      • AJ Milne

        It’s that, very much. Technology is very central to this. I wouldn’t quite make the strong statement that what authoritarians like Putin and his collaborators here have achieved and are achieving would be impossible without the net, but it’s clear the immense changes in how people get their news, especially, opened up avenues they absolutely are using.

        Misinformation and distraction are keys to this, and it’s easier now than it’s ever been to flood targets with both. It’s _hard_ in the modern world to keep your focus, with a firehose of clickbait pouring in. Look at the strategy not just of Putin but of the right wing locally, and it’s essentially the same: create an entire ecosystem in which those already working against their own interests can be kept immersed, afraid of all the wrong things, oblivious to the real threats. And for the rest, rain down chaos, keep them from focusing where they could actually deflect those steadily eroding liberal democracy.

        I’d add: I think an additional problem–an underlying condition they exploit and deliberately aggravate–is the very confusion throughout the populace about what liberal democracy actually _is_, how you defend it, what’s important. People have been conditioned to a sort of careless, undiscerning skepticism about _all_ institutions, especially the institutions of liberal democracy, a hatred even of those which, when healthy, work on balance to their benefit. Discerning skepticism is absolutely necessary: that’s how you _keep_ those institutions healthy. But simply saying government’s bad, the media’s bad, it’s all bad, everyone for themselves just leaves you at the mercy of those who _do_ have a plan, _do_ have designs on how they want to run the world. And that’s the drumbeat, the message the authoritarians keep selling: trust no one, certainly not each other, build nothing, organize nothing. It’s as sure a recipe for slavery beneath those who _are_organized as exists.

    • nightmoth

      You’re being a realist. As a student of human history, I’ve always worried that the USA might not make it past adolescence as a country. I think we’ve just become the high school kid who gets killed in a car wreck.

      • Bad Tom

        We’re in a pretty good skid now, and the trees are flashing by. But the guy at the wheel’s not worried.

        But soon, real soon, something will happen that will make the kid’s eyes go wide. Then he will jerk the wheel real hard (via Twitter,) and those trees will start getting bigger real fast.
        ——-
        The kid disabled the air bags. The red light was on.

        • Roadstergal

          In this metaphor, is California the sober kid in the back trying to bail out, while her friends are trying to convince her to stay in the car to try to talk sense into the driver?

          • Bad Tom

            Yes. Except after the skid begins, it is too late for everyone in the car, sober or not. At least the sober kid has his or her seat belt on.

          • Lord Jim

            Which will be of no help when the car goes into the ravine.

          • Bad Tom

            At least California’s body will be identifiable without dental records.

    • Zonath

      I don’t know about the “decades” thing. The US went through a severely isolationist, anti-free-trade period where government regulation took a back seat to business back in the 20’s, and we became the Greatest Country in the World in pretty short order after that. I forget what all happened in the meantime, but it mustn’t have been all that bad, right?

      • Lara

        Yeah, but didn’t having two big wars have something to do with that?

        ETA: NM, you were too subtle for my de-caffeinated brain this morning :)

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Well it worked. I watched her show on DVR last night when I got home and she scared the shit out of me- and that’s despite the fact that I’ve been keeping up on this stuff far more than your average Murican. It’s as if Putin turned loose an army of termites to eat the foundations of government out from the inside, yet half the country is too stupid, too vindictive and too distracted to notice the piles of sawdust and rotting wood- instead calling us crazy for wanting to call an exterminator.

    • snark-lurker

      You left out “Racist”.

    • Proud Liberal

      I know Zippy. I’m terrified at what is happening!

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Some of that half are termites.

    • Tio_Doidinho

      Speaking of termites…watch the Brazilian movie “Aquarius” if you get a chance (currently on Netflix). Terrific movie, it’s got SONIA BRAGA in the lead for feck’s sake, and termites play a significant plot point.

    • Lord Jim

      Much of America is now an infant lying on the bottom of its crib, hungry and with dirty nappies, screaming and thrashing.

      • Paul

        “Much of America is now LED BY an infant…”

        Also, too.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    The United States, now a subsidiary of Russia, Inc.
    Donald Trump CEP(*)

    (*) Chief Executive Patsy

  • Chadwells

    OT: This is like telling water not to be wet. Just stop.

    “Congressman Tells Trump To His Face Why His Comments About Black Communities Are ‘Hurtful’”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/elijah-cummings-donald-trump_us_58c16b9ce4b0ed71826a7f5a?ir=Politics&utm_hp_ref=politics

  • More_Cowbell

    Is there some way we can broadcast this show EVERYWHERE and make people see it?

    • Proud Liberal

      Especially Republicans in Congress!

      • Liberal Fascist Ron

        Not because it will change their reptilian little minds, but because when Mme Guillotine des Votes takes centre stage again they won’t get to say, ‘But we didn’t know!’

  • Jenny

    You know what this segment needs? A complete rebranding. Put a stupid looking puppet in front of a black background, a scary voice, and some scary music.

    Throw it on youtube as “The Truth.” Exaggeration, photo shopped pictures, etc and watch the dolts who wouldn’t listen otherwise pick it up and run.

    Sure it is a trick but they fall for all the rest of the shit. At least it might so some good.

    • Lulu Mac

      Why are we not funding this?

      • Jenny

        If I had video skills I would do it myself. :/

    • LucindathePook

      O Fortuna!

    • Lord Jim

      And the Trumpanzees would, without so much a flicker of irony, howl at you derisively and brand you a moronic conspiracy nut. Mark my words.

  • Proud Liberal

    Time to write the members of Congress! Email them a copy of this video and tell them to act. Trump is destroying our government!

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    OT ZEGS Ryan can go fuck himself. He keeps lying about the ACA death spiral despite the American academy of Actuaries and the CBO both saying that’s bullshit

    • Nounverb911

      Facts. How do they work?

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        his only “proof” of that BS claim is a quote from the Aetna CEO, the guy who tried to sabotage the ACA as leverage to get his merger approved

  • puredog

    Holy fucking Christ.

  • bookish

    http://nbcnews.to/2lGHXCR

    “The Republicans have done what Democrats couldn’t: Brought the popularity of Obamacare to record levels. They made every election a referendum on Obamacare,” said former Rep. Steve Israel, a Democrat.

    Israel led House Democrats’ election efforts during the brutal 2010 midterm, when Republicans rode an anti-Obama backlash to gain 63 seats. Now Israel anticipates Democrats will run on, instead of away from, health care.

    • Marceline

      They should’ve run on health care in 2010. Watching Dems run from Obama and the good he did was infuriating.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        They have a bad habit of letting the Republicans set the message.

        • OrdinaryJoe

          Don’t run on what a weird ass crazy fucker Trump is, run on how he is pretty much goose stepping in sync with the “conservative” Republicans on every issue from heath care to foreign policy.

        • DahBoner

          That’s because you can express fear in a few fucked up words.

          Things that require education take much, much longer.

    • DahBoner

      I want to see a chart how many races, POTUS, Congress, Senate, Govenor, State legislators, Mayor’s in the past 50 years?

      How many did D’s win? Lose?

      That’s the Big Picture. Has anyone seen one?

      And without seeing the actual data, I know it ain’t gonna look optimistic for Democrats. 🤔

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
    • Lord Jim

      It helps to grin a little between the crying jags.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    I was watching this last night, and it occurred to me that we – even us relatively ‘woke’ liberals – have been and still are somewhat in a state of denial about all this.

    Really, really bad things happen in the course of history. The most common thing that people think of is wars, and they’re probably the most significant. But the fall of once-proud nations… that happens too. And it really might be happening before our eyes.

    And I still can’t believe I’m talking like this. I used to make fun of RWNJs calling Obama a “socialist” and saying things like “our republic has been betrayed” and other nonsense. And now I’m sounding just like them.

    I may start needing a vodka I.V. drip. Seems like the appropriate choice of liquor at any rate.

    • Jenny

      Right? And my friend says well that is how I felt under Obama.

      How is this even close to the same thing?! People allowed to marry is the same horror as being co-opted by our rivals through treason and espionage?

      • Liberal Fascist Ron

        To them? Yes. It is. Their values system has always been seriously fucked-up.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        Well, perhaps they were freaked out about the ACA mandate. While that would be an extreme overreaction, perhaps it was fear of ‘creeping socialism’ that was freaking them out, not anti-gay bigotry? (He asked hopefully)

        • Jenny

          Eh, this friend like everyone else I know has government funded healthcare because of our jerbs. To her credit, she at least votes dem in local elections because it actually hurts her bottom line when Republicans run the place.

          That, plus her aunt and grandmother used to do a lot of democratic fund raisers back in the day so that’s the only time she votes democratic. On a national level, to her Ben Carson is THE BEST!

          • yyyaz

            Ben Carson? Is it his religiosity, his melanin? I mean, that is so far around the bend I cannot understand.

          • Jenny

            Religion. He doesn’t support abortion which is why she loves him. That seems to be her only real issue, anything with sex really.

            She was raised baptist and now goes to church of christ so I get all the fucked messages she received about sex from that kind of upbringing.

            Her husband is a good damn man, that’s all I can say because he is usually talking her down from some crazy rant.

          • artem1s

            clueless blah=good blah

        • Lord Jim

          They were freaked out at the prospect of cishet white Christian America on the wane. They were terrified that those they oppressed would, when they gained social position, get their sweet revenge, which is what they themselves would do.

          • BearDeLaOursistance

            Indeed, and how sad that their worldview is so zero-sum. That the loss of exclusive dominance over a whole country’s way of life was somehow equivalent to losing the ability to live a good life for oneself.

          • Paul

            I thought Obama already made us all get gay married. Damn, it was hard work finding a baker and florist.

        • artem1s

          they have a perpetual lose/lose attitude. they do not understand the concept of win/win and world of plenty where we aren’t wasting resources wasting each other. they prefer to opt for the win/lose scenario because they cannot imagine win/win is a real option. they accept the lose/lose proposition over and over again, because they are convinced that the only other scenario is lose/win. their hearts are tiny, little black coals of hate, ignorance, greed and spite.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I have these moments a lot lately, too.

    • MynameisBlarney

      The difference is they are stupid and wrong, You ain’t stupid and you’re right.

      • LucindathePook

        And you have facts and evidence and suchlike on your side.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Quite.
          Like…over-fucking-whelming facts and evidences and suchlikes.

    • puredog

      Really. I am about as far as one can be from being a tinfoil conspiracist, but I was truly baffled by the decimation of State, though Tillerson’s installation just looked like another piece of oligarchical Trumpism, nothing to see here. But this Maddow piece lived up to its billing and did, indeed, scare the shit out of me.

    • Lord Jim

      The liberal difference:
      1) Awareness of the existence of such a thing as a conspiracy mania.
      2) Recognition that it’s not a good thing.
      3) Reluctant acceptance of evidence of a conspiracy, rather than a rush to embrace it with both arms and hump its leg.

  • Rick Hill

    Watergate…Vietnam war….Iran hostage crisis….SnL scandal….9-11….07 recession. All are in the history books. What will the current crop of republicans say when history is recorded in ten years? They allowed the destruction of our democracy, our Republic. All for money and power.

    • yyyaz

      Trading our power to line their filthy pockets.

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      They think they will be permanently entrenched and will get to write the history books themselves.

      • OrG

        They are wrong.Once they are no longer useful,they will be the first disappeared.Get rid of the evidence.

      • I think Bannon said something like “we’ll get 60% of the white vote, 40% of the black vote and we’ll govern for 50 years,” if they have their way.

  • Proud Liberal

    Okay, I’ve written to my Senators. I implore each of you to do the same. We must get them to pay attention to what is happening!

    • puredog

      Done and done. Sent them the link to the Maddow piece.

    • WeepingAngel

      Done.

  • Bill Slider

    Trump will force me to re-read the US Constitution, yet, again. Eliminating cabinet agencies is one thing, but eliminating agencies included in the Constitution could be a problem. The line of succession for the Presidency includes cabinet secretaries, including the order of them at the time the document was written. You can’t just control, alt, delete without consequences.

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      WHAT consequences? They’ve been running roughshod all over the damned country and so far all they’ve had to endure is a few mild rebukes.

      • Proud Liberal

        They’ve rigged the system so that will happen. I am confident a democrat will never be president again.

        • Bad Tom

          That’s what some were saying about Republicans not too long ago.

          • Proud Liberal

            Had we won in 2010, it would have been that way for awhile.

          • DahBoner

            The people who said that weren’t noticing the gap was smaller than the polling uncertainty. Nate Silver I’m looking at you.

          • Roadstergal

            I thought I saw a 538 article in the run-up to the election (pre-Comey) that noted that the path to a popular vote win with an electoral collage loss for Hillz was better odds than dying in a game of Russian Roulette?

          • Bad Tom

            With a six shooter, assuming the spin is fair, you have ~17% chance of losing, and 83% chance of ‘winning’.

            Hitting the 17% is not that hard, especially if Uncle Vlad has his thumb on the scale.

          • DahBoner

            The odds of dying from RR with a six shooter is 1/6 or under 17%.

            IOW, he said the odds of that not happening was 83%, which was very, very wrong.

        • DahBoner

          Unfortunately, yes.

          That only leaves the R word option

    • azeyote

      they seem to alt everything else –

  • bookish

    https://www.propublica.org/article/theres-no-guarantee-trumps-tax-returns-would-reveal-russia-ties

    If you could read the relevant documents — IRS Forms 1040 and 8938 and Schedules C, E and S — you would see that unless Trump has a personal Russian bank account or shows a gain or a loss on the sale of a Russian security or property, financial results of Russian dealings (if they exist) would likely be lumped in with hundreds of other dealings rather than being broken out specifically.

    In fact, searching for a Russian connection in Trump’s returns is a diversion from the real reasons the American public has a stake in seeing them.

    We’ll get to those. But first, let’s see what the experts have to say.

    • Shanzgood

      There you are! In case you didn’t see my apology on the open thread this morning, I’m sorry for what I posted to you the other day. I was snappish and out of line and had no business saying what I did. That’s why I deleted it.

      • bookish

        No worries. We all have off days. And I do tend to be ….ahem…just a tad…obsessive.

        • Shanzgood

          Thanks! And it doesn’t sound as bad if you refer to it as a HOBBY instead!

      • Jukesgrrl

        That’s nice. Bookish is a good person … very bookish.

        • Shanzgood

          Yeah. I went a bit off-Rez.

    • DahBoner

      IOW, Rich people have many ways to hide their income sources (they want the holes in the complex tax code to stay wide open)

    • Bad Tom

      There are no guarantees about anything in life.
      Why is Trump hiding his tax returns?
      Let’s see them, and find out.

  • Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie

    I’m guessing all the people who were outraged over Bill Clinton’s airport meeting with Loretta Lynch will be up in arms about this, right?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Just kidding.

    http://www.salon.com/2017/03/09/nigel-farage-visits-ecuadorian-embassy-home-of-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange/

    • MeerkatsRMammals

      I’m starting to think we aren’t the only country in the hot tub with Putin…

      • Lamashtar

        Europe and Britain have a long history of Useful Idiots.

        • MeerkatsRMammals

          Agreed! But what if Putin was behind BREXIT as well as Making America Russian Again?

  • MynameisBlarney
  • OrG

    Great,we’re a banana republic.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      I guess we’ve gotta start plantain the seeds of revolution.

      • MynameisBlarney

        All these banana puns are starting to lose their a peel.

        • DahBoner
        • JustDon’tSayDieInJail

          We’re slipping here…

        • BearDeLaOursistance

          But they contain a lot of my favorite element: PotAssium.

    • DahBoner

      Buy American Bananas!

    • Hairstrike Alpha

      More of an orange republic these days…

    • MeerkatsRMammals

      But…there’s always money in the banana stand?

  • DahBoner

    I’m so old I remember when the Bernie Bros said Hillary was a Warmonger who was going to continue Obama’s policy of fighting 164 simultaneous wars and ESCALATE.

    YOU DUMBASSES.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/92861c73d182274cf26409df35c128d6debd2adb61b70e179ac8a5ad38112dbc.png

    • TJ Barke

      Right, because slow moving b52s are tactically appropriate…

      • Wild Cat

        Yeah, the group has lost a step since “Love Shack,” and even that sucked ass.

        • Paul

          That’s damn funny.

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        They now have Protein Propulsion Technology instead:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoePXkHWdw4

      • Miles Monroe

        They’re a “standoff” delivery platform; the AGM-86B cruise missle has a range of over fifteen hundred miles; draw a circle with a radius of 1500 miles around Pyongyang, and you can see the difficulty for their air defense forces …

    • chortlingdingo

      Man, Dampnut is really itchin’ to use some nukes, isn’t he?

      • Roadstergal

        We’re going to have the best apocalypse. Just terrific.

    • Marceline

      With every new horror my hatred for the Berniacs and the Trumpers and the Steinbots grows simultaneously.

      • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

        Funny, mine grows exponentially.

      • Jukesgrrl

        I focus all my hatred on Susan Sarandon. It helps with the pain.

        • Marceline

          Earlier this week my coworker who knows how much I like old Hollywood asked me if I was watching “Feud.”

          “No,” I said.
          “Why not?”
          “Susan Sarandon.”
          “What’s wrong with Susan Sarandon?” He gets a frightened look on his face. “Why is your face twitching?”

          I didn’t realize it but just hearing her name gives me a physical reaction.

          • Jukesgrrl

            I’d like to whack her. If I ever get a chance I’ll invite you to join me.

    • Thaumaturgist

      Doubt that those B-52’s are carrying nukes. More likely they’re carrying bunker busters to disable the North Korean guns in the caves in the mountains surrounding Soeul.

      • JustDon’tSayDieInJail

        And you wouldn’t use BUFs for that, either, because you really need a precision guided munition. Dropping GBU-28s was a job for the F-117, but that bird’s retired. F/A-18, maybe?

        • Thaumaturgist

          Don’t need to hit the guns. Just rearrange the rocks.

          • JustDon’tSayDieInJail

            Gotta get through the concrete.

      • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

        NK has SAMs. What good are B52s?

        • Thaumaturgist

          You could use tactical aircraft to sanitize the airspace, as was done in Iraq. That would take some time when time would be of the essence. But what other use could there be for B-52’s? Someone apparently thinks they might be useful.

      • DahBoner

        Safe to say it has a variety of weapons capable of doing a variety of things on a non-specific show of force mission like this one.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    I just pray that these fuckers were stupid enough to leave a trail for the investigators to pick up. And that the CIA can ferret out who owns that 19% of Rosneft that was bought with Russian gov’t money and buried in a Caymans account.
    The best outcome is the destruction of Il Douche and the GOP with him.

    • MynameisBlarney

      The level of incompetence we’re seeing in the turmp regime makes the bush43 administration look like professionals.

      • LucindathePook

        Makes the Plumbers et al. look positively brilliant.

  • monoglot

    I would like to have a day where I don’t (a) wake up crying for my country, and (b) wake up crying with relief that my grandparents did not live to see this shit.

    • Zonath

      Don’t worry, friend! As a part of Making America Great Again, electroconvulsive therapy and lobotomy are both poised to make comebacks bigly! Better yet, for registered Democrats, those therapies will be 100% covered by Trumpcare!

      • Jukesgrrl

        I wish. At the end of 2016 I called to get an appointment with the psychiatrist authorized by my insurance to up my antidepressant meds. He can’t see me until JUNE. His appointments aide told me, “I don’t know why but we’re being inundated with new patients and other people who need appointments.” She doesn’t know why? I know why.

    • Roadstergal

      My dad worked so hard all of his life to make this world a little better. He’s living with Parkinson’s and watching it all go to shit.

      • OrdinaryJoe

        My father-in-law was a bomber pilot in WWII. He took off for every flight knowing full well the chances were that he and his crew were living the last hours of their young lives. But they did it without hesitation because they were patriots and they were doing what was necessary. He is still alive. He weeps for the men who did not return because within a generation of their sacrifices it has all gone to shit.

        • Jukesgrrl

          I know! My 90-year-old mother was a teenager when WWII broke out. She worked in a steel mill and her brother served in the Navy. Then she lived through the Cold War, Vietnam, Watergate, etc., etc. She says, “All my life I feared the Russians and now Trump’s turning the country over to them.” She thought she was going to live to see the first woman president. No such luck. Best wishes from her to your FIL.

      • nightmoth

        My parents went through the Great Depression and the World War and worked hard to make the world better for their families and for everybody else. I’m really angry that Trump and his flying monkeys are pissing on their graves. For me, that’s what this insanity fucking means!

  • MynameisBlarney

    Oh, you say the turmp got his wire tapp info from the Justice Dept.
    How very interesting Spicer.
    Please, tell us more…

    https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch/status/839868376138805248

    • MeerkatsRMammals

      As I watched the twitter storm unfold Sat, I speculated into my coffee…”did he have a briefing this morning?” This is messed up on WAY too many levels.

  • Tio_Doidinho

    Meanwhile, back in Wingnutlandia Sean Hannity is babbling endlessly away about the “deep state”. It’s like somebody spiked the water supplies in NY and DC with brown acid or something.

    • Wild Cat

      Didn’t he go into exile in the swamps of Redlandia when Communist Bill De Blasio was elected mayor of NYC?

  • Professor Fate

    “We have a Mole Jim” – Quote from Tinker Tailor Solider Spy – by John Lecarre. It keeps ringing in my head.

    • Notreelyhelping

      With these guys, it feels like they’re all moles: the Mole Administration.

      • Professor Fate

        True but that should eventually be a weakness – Get one or more of these little weasels to sing and the whole thing will come apart as the rest of the rats scramble to protect themselves. Only trouble is who is going to do that.

        • Notreelyhelping

          It depends if they have someone willing to take the fall (assuming they’ll be pardoned later). But they’re schmucks and all into upper management: right now, some career civil servant is their weak link.

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

    Speaking of coinky-dinks, Nigel Farage showed up at the Ecuadorian Embassy to talk to Assange post CIA leak.

    • Amelia

      And “couldn’t remember” why he was there.

      As he was leaving the building.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Yeah….there’s some fuckin shady as fuck shit goin on.

  • Amelia

    I feel crazier by the day. I’ve stopped keeping my dad updated because every time I start, I realize I sound like a fucking paranoid loony.

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      Well, I can’t vouch for you personally, but there’s so much crap out there that can be open sourced that points to Trump collaborating with the Russians that it isn’t paranoid lunacy.

      • Amelia

        Oh, I know. I’m happy all of you are here and that Rachel Maddow is on the case so I know I’m not alone or too nuts.

        But explaining it to someone who mostly watches the news for the weather can make you feel like you’re wearing a top hat made of tin foil.

        • Sophia

          I keep saying that all of this would make a really bad book.

          • Amelia

            Oh, I think it’s inspiring a whole new round of dystopian series as we speak. Dystopias, post-apocalyptics…fantasies featuring a morally bankrupt and incompetent king who miiiight just be a puppet for a greater evil….you know. It’s all fodder for us kooky writing types.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            Margaret Atwood is writing a sequel to Handmaid’s Tale.

          • Sophia

            Yea but it’s really hard to stay with the story line when you have thousands of subplots within the plot.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            When I said I wished I could live in a book I meant, like, a light beach read romance.

  • bookish

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2017/0309/Border-crossings-dropped-in-February.-Is-Trump-s-tough-talk-having-an-effect

    Illegal border crossings declined 40 percent from January to February, said Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly on Wednesday, crediting executive actions by President Trump for the reduction.

    The number of apprehensions and the prevention of inadmissible persons at the southern US border fell from 31,578 in January to 18,762 in February, said Mr. Kelly, citing US Customs and Border Protection data. The agency, he added, normally sees a 10 percent to 20 percent increase in apprehensions of people crossing without authorization during that period of the year.

    The news turns a spotlight on how harsh messaging from Mr. Trump might discourage prospective migrants and asylum-seekers from attempting entry at the southern border – and perhaps, how rhetoric and directives that have alarmed many outside of his core supporters also dovetail with a longstanding border-enforcement strategy of “prevention through deterrence.”

    • Lord Jim

      So it looks like, absent the gestapo tactics, the Obama administration set the precedent for an immigration-unfriendly America. I appreciate that he didn’t start the anti-Muslim crap (why would he, being a Muslim himself HAHA), but still…

    • LucindathePook

      Yeah, illegal crossings decrease 40%. Also, legal crossings down by similar number as ALL crossings go down.

  • OrdinaryJoe

    Trump is the head of the Trump Crime Family and a capo de regime in Don Putin’s organization. Lots of buffers. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7a31bdd16f9c1608f091174d5cd8f1038483f040a7f93320ee64e7a24c886861.jpg

    • Jukesgrrl

      This excellent graphic, and others like it, can be found on a great webpage called Protect Our Democracy. It was posted by Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) so citizens can better understand the many ties to Russia held by members of the Trump administration and the Trump family. Swalwell, who holds the House seat covering the Castro Valley in California, is an articulate spokesperson for what is going wrong in the Trump government and advocates for an independent investigation of the administration’s ties to Vladimir Putin.
      https://swalwell.house.gov/russia

    • Phoenixdoglover

      That diagram needs to be updated with Wilbur Ross, now our esteemed Commerce Secretary.

    • phoenix00

      “This is still not evidence. No investigation is necessary. Now when can I lock up Hillary?” – Chaffetz

  • bookish
  • Rick Hill

    So…US boots on the ground in Syria. Not a peep out of anyone, either

    • Proud Liberal

      Wow. How did everybody miss this?

      “US deploys heavily armed marines to Syria
      Several hundred marines sent to prepare for battle to push ISIL out of its de facto capital, Raqqa, in country’s north.”

      http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/03/marines-syria-170309014847784.html

      • Rick Hill

        In trumpistan, the only facts that matter are the ones that take attention away from things like this.

      • nightmoth

        The hell you say! I sure missed it. Y’know, that boots on the ground thing has not really gone well for us since 1945.

        • Proud Liberal

          tRump is going to destroy us all before the end of year!

    • yyyaz

      Carrying water for the world’s dictators since 1/20/17! USA! USA!

    • Thiazin red

      But Hillary wanted to start ww3! Such a hawk!

  • capnkrunch

    and if that means everybody Trump has ever met has to GO TO JAIL and Trump gets exiled to Gitmo, well so be it!

    Oh no… that would be so bad.

  • bookish

    What Canadians hoping to enter US can expect at border.

    http://www.macleans.ca/politics/washington/what-to-expect-when-you-cross-the-canada-u-s-border/

    “With these executive orders, it’s not that you’re going to be inadmissible or not qualified for entry, but the the vetting process will be more stringent,” says Mark Belanger, a Vancouver-based lawyer with Border Solutions Law Group. “The chances of being pulled into secondary are greater.”

    All of which leaves Canadians wondering what they’ll be asked, how long they might have to wait, and if they’ll be turned away for some dubious reason.

    “There’s no restrictions on what an officer can ask you because there’s no telling what will guide an officer to follow a particular line of questioning to determine if that traveller is admissible for not,” says Dave Long, a public affairs officer with the U.S. Customs and Border Protection office in Buffalo, N.Y. And while that’s unchanged from long before Trump took office, tales from the border since his inauguration clearly show some officers are taking their unrestricted-question mandate down some odd paths.

    • Lord Jim

      May I advance a friendly suggestion? Rather than just posting a URL, perhaps you might embed it in a hyperlink that is part of a capsule summary of the information? Otherwise, I have to hover over the URL, check Firefox’s popup status bar, and hope the article title is part of the URL so I can get some idea of what I’ll be reading about. If nothing else, post the article’s title in anchor tags.

      • Jukesgrrl

        You’re doing something wrong. I’m on secure Firefox and merely clicking on the the hyperlink Bookish posted takes me directly to the article, with the ability to come back here using the back arrow.

        • Lord Jim

          Not what I’m talking about. I mean posting a little information rather than a bare URL.
          Here, for example, is a ThinkProgress report on Roger Stone’s contact with the Russian hacker collective before the election.

    • ltmcdies

      I feel for people who have business or family in the United States, therefore feel they need to cross, but I personally will not cross the border or spend my meager vacation bucks in the US while that lunatic is in office.

      • Lord Jim

        Sound policy.

    • Charon_69

      read recently tourism to the US is down some ungodly amount (185M) since he started, jobs anyone?

    • phoenix00

      As someone who lives just south of Vancouver who lives close enough to the border, fawwwwwwk.

  • MynameisBlarney
    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      By the time he’s done, Democrats will be the “strong National Security/National Defense/Pro Veterans Party” while Republicans cower and make excuses for him.

    • Bitter Scribe

      Hey, they’re lucky he didn’t send the guy who used to fetch the coffee and doughnuts for “Celebrity Apprentice.”

    • Sitkajo

      What is the deal with this Omarosa person? She seems sort of sketchy.

      • Jukesgrrl

        Reality TV star. The veterans would be dazzled if only they were the kind of people who watched The Bachelor and worshiped the Kardashians.

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

    This is what insurance means.

    Those whose houses didn’t burn down subsidize those whose houses did burn. You spread the risk.

    Matthew Yglesias added,

    @CitizenCohn
    Paul Ryan says insurance can’t work if healthy must pay more to subsidize the sick. But this is exactly what happens in every employer plan.

    • Phoenixdoglover

      Well, that’s how virtually every type of insurance works. The lucky/virtuous ones subsidize the unlucky/reckless ones.

      But at this point, I’m not sure it matters what comes out of Ryan’s mouth; he is uniformly disingenuous and cavalier about peoples’ lives.

    • Historicat

      Is Ryan lying or stupid?

      Obviously, the answer is both.

      • stubbornirishlass

        You misspelled A Hypocrite.

        • Historicat

          I should have made that the third option, then the answer would have been AOTK.

    • Lord Jim

      Keep in mind, this is the Republican Party’s and Beltway Press’ idea of a Republican policy wonk.

  • Punkysdilemma

    I told Comcast cable to be gone from this place this past November. It was a long time coming but I truly miss TRMS. Rachel Maddow IMHO is the best at providing context and not just replaying sound bites and regurgitating headlines. She’s certainly ahead of everyone when it comes to the most important part of the story – the telling of the story. She talked about Flint MI before it was really picked up by other networks and journalists and kept talking about. It was there I heard of a strange thing called Wonkette actually. My life hasn’t been the same since.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I did the same. I do miss watching Rachel and Joy.

      • Punkysdilemma

        Oh I feel terrible for not mentioning Joy Reid. I miss her too.

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      For TV News, not bad. But she’s not doing most of the legwork. MSNBC just has NBC verify the reporting of others.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        What she’s good at is communicating it all in a way people can understand, and in a way that gets at what we really need to know. Also too historical context.

        • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

          TV news is generally pretty vapid, and the days of investigative journalism within the major TV news providers is mostly gone, and some of them don’t even bother to verify sources any more.

          Just be glad there are still some investigative journalists left working at those dinosaur newspapers, or there would be nothing substantial to report.

      • Punkysdilemma

        For me it’s about the presentation of the information and going beyond the superficial aspect of it. Not telling us what to think of it but providing a perspective that, not just allows for but to the type of thinker that I am at least, inspires me to look at things and think about things in a way that maybe I hadn’t thought of. I love being inspired and I love those who can inspire me.

      • stubbornirishlass

        Yes, but Rachel is not a journalist and doesn’t claim to be.

    • Proud Liberal

      You can watch her on YouTube.

      • YetAnotherRebecca

        She also releases the full audio of every night’s show for free the next day as a podcast that I download through Stitcher. I haven’t had MSNBC for years so it’s how I’ve kept up and the fact that it’s audio only means it’s good to listen to while commuting

        • Punkysdilemma

          Awesome! I didn’t know that! (Probably on account of I’m a poor lazy liberal) Thank you!

    • Lord Jim

      Rachel Maddow IMHO is the best at providing context and not just
      replaying sound bites and regurgitating headlines. She’s certainly ahead
      of everyone when it comes to the most important part of the story –
      the telling of the story. She talked about Flint MI before it was really
      picked up by other networks and journalists and kept talking about.

      YES. SO. MUCH. YES.

    • Dr. Strangelove’s Child

      She has a podcast of her full show up about an hour after it airs every night.

      • Punkysdilemma

        Cool! Thank you. Watching clips on MSNBC jus isn’t the same. I’ve got some serious binge listening to do, hopefully.

  • Flashman

    I really think we have gotten to the bottom of this:

    1. July 7, 2016, Carter Page goes to Moscow.
    2. A week later, the GOP platform is amended to take out the plank criticizing Russia for its intervention in Crimea.
    3. A week after that, WikiLeaks starts.

    Anybody see a pattern?

    • MynameisBlarney

      Yup.
      Pooty set the game plan and they’re following it to the letter.

      • Proud Liberal

        Now they are gutting the State Department. Just like Pooty wants.

      • Paul

        Know what’s so fucking galling about all this? It’s predicated on the majority of us being pig ignorant, malleable nitwits. AND IT WORKS FFS!!

    • Lord Jim

      Lemme think about it for a minute…

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      Trump gets in trouble with more Russian ties stories, gets mad, tweets about wiretaps.

      WikiLeaks leaks CIA docs.

      GatewayPundit, Breitbart, InfoWars and Russia Today start implying CIA could be behind hacking. Fox News joins in.

      Nigel Farage pays visit to Assange in Ecuadorian Embassy.

    • Paul

      Move along. Move along folks. Nothing to see here.

    • Transreason Maidenheader

      Yes, but I wish I didn’t.

  • Flashman

    Come right down to it, what do you need a State Department for anyway? All you really need is a deposit account to send your bribes to. Checks should be payable to cash, and be sure to write, in the notation line of your check, the policy/policies you want adopted.

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      Vetting visas, diplomacy, assisting US Citizens overseas?

      • Raymond Prach

        Real Americans do not go “overseas”. There is everything you could possibly want to see right here in Branson, MO. Real Americans also do not engage in “diplomacy”. That is what nuclear weapons are for. And real Americans already have a Visa, but it’s overdrawn.

        • nightmoth

          Cousin Buck, is that you? How did you find me here?

        • Natalie Frenshen

          Fine dining at Applebee’s and The Olive garden

          • Phoenixdoglover

            Now them places is for special occasions, like when Ma gets her check each month.

        • Weevie

          Yeppppppp!!! Dam raht you are!!!!
          Done got me a brand new pouch a rub!

      • PenguinPenguinPenguin

        Pshaw! If Murkans want to see the world, they can just go to Epcot.

    • Weevie

      Shit, I’ll give them my routing number if that’s how they want to play!

  • MynameisBlarney
  • Sophia
    • Charon_69

      but, but socialized medicine and taking refugees from our southern border!

      slightly OT, wife got a letter from the provincial health assoc last week basically saying ‘hey we noticed you had some testing done a while ago and it’s important to keep on top of these things, would you like to come in and get your lady bits checked out for free?’

      sorry guys :( it feels like we’re watching a really good neighbour being treated shitty by her new boyfriend

      • DensityDestiny

        You are. I think we need “the talk”.

    • phoenix00

      Go us!

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    Rachel, if you are reading this, I love your smile and want to do sexy lady time with you.

    • BearDeLaOursistance

      Seconded, OH how I wish I were A Lesbian and not A PenisGhey.

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        Oh, don’t feel bad! Penises are also a lot of fun.

    • pianoplayer1

      I want to adopt Rachel. I want her to be my daughter. (Sorry, Rachel’s real Mom and Dad.)

      • Moar Wordz

        My Mom and I bonded over Rachel Maddow. ” She’s smart as a whip. ”
        ” I just 💘 her, ”

  • Tio_Doidinho

    In related news, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Shade) is NOT playing today:

    https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/839897202747146240

    • artem1s

      dear FSM, bring me a pony, a plastic rocket and strong black woman who will be Twittler’s downfall!

      https://youtu.be/IGwutHEjvWE

    • pianoplayer1

      Maxine says: “Stay woke!” She is my hero.

  • William
  • HelenBackAgain

    “Either our tinfoil hats are fitting just right these days, or YOU ARE CRAZY AND HOLY SHIT.”
    Who is the “you” here? This doesn’t make sense if the author is speaking to the reader. But it doesn’t give any indication who else it might mean.

    • GodEmperorCaptainHowdy

      Is grammar concern the latest fashion down at the boiler room?

  • Dr. Strangelove’s Child

    The sale of Rosneft is the key. I am sure that the Post, the Times, and every other major non-insane media entity is trying to solve that question.
    Does anyone, ANYONE, have any idea who bought that stake in Rosneft?
    Could it have been sold through the Bank of Cyprus, you know, the one that Wilbur Ross owned a shit-ton of shares in?
    This is the thing that will break open the whole kit and kaboodle.

    • artem1s

      that Azerbaijani hotel deal with maybe Iranian money is really sticky stuff for the Emperor with no Clue. That is serious criminal dealings that carries weapons grade fines and potential jail time. If there really is something that will result in ‘he will die in jail’… I’m betting on dealings with the Iranian Guard.

      • Jukesgrrl

        He’ll blame his sons and they’ll be the ones to go to jail in the unlikely case anyone does.

        • artem1s

          fine by me. Uday and Hussay should be in jail anyway.

    • PenguinPenguinPenguin

      From Bloomberg:

      ‘Commodity trader Glencore Plc and Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund agreed to buy a 10.2-billion euro ($11 billion) stake in Russia’s largest oil producer from the state in a triumph for President Vladimir Putin over sanctions imposed by the West.

      The surprise deal gives the buyers a 19.5 percent stake in Rosneft PJSC, which the U.S. and European Union have targeted with punitive measures, and is the biggest foreign investment in Russia since the crisis in Ukraine. It also marks a stunning return to deal-making for Glencore Chief Executive Officer Ivan Glasenberg a little more than a year after his company was forced to raise cash from shareholders.’

    • whitroth

      Yes. Google Rosneft privatization.
      “Qatar Investment Authority (QIA) and commodities trader Glencore” And the CEO (or is he just a major honcho?) of Glencore is a buddy of Trumpolini.

  • cosmiccowgirl

    I can’t tell if Rachel has gone full Glenn Beck or if this is really scary shit.

    • Aaron Wise

      At $30,000/day she better get some outrage goin’.
      Corporate bullshit. Fuck GE.

      • PenguinPenguinPenguin

        What does GE have to do with Maddow? GE sold NBC, etc. years ago to Comcast.

        • Aaron Wise

          Read above.

          • PenguinPenguinPenguin

            Nice edit.

      • boll ocks

        Dude Comcast sucks but you know who sucks a lot harder, longer, and finishes with a flourish? Trump.

    • PenguinPenguinPenguin

      Oh no, it’s scary. Super duper scary.

      I live in the land of Dear Leader and he’s all about the long game. He’s getting his money’s worth out of The Orange One’s administration.

    • Hardly Ideal

      It all sounds crazy, but she’s not the only person to uncover shady shit about Trump. At some point, coincidence ends and pattern begins, which is a point I’m pretty sure we’re close to passing if we haven’t already.

    • GodEmperorCaptainHowdy

      No, Rachel Maddow is sane. No resemblance to Beck.

  • Peter Walford

    Another minor masterpiece of journalism! Thank you Mr Hurst. And congratulations ‘Wonkette’: you have become my go-to source for US “news”. I prefer your prism to all other refractive media :)

  • ⭐️ I Am Helpy ⭐️

    Um, right now Russia is trying to discredit the CIA.

    • generalleeme

      Make that Russia and Trump are trying to discredit the CIA and FBI.

      • phoenix00

        With the assist to Julian Assange and wikileaks.

  • C4TWOMAN

    Go, Rachel Maddow!

  • Aaron Wise

    Another Comcast Corporation news channel product.
    Unplug the cable.

    • Hardly Ideal

      Dude, she’s one of the best voices on MSNBC, if not the best. If she and Wonkette staff made a TV show consisting of nothing but news gossip, cocktail recipes, and dick jokes, I’d get a subscription just for that.

      • wtw5002

        She’s also a Rhodes Scholar and Oxford PhD. Her farts are more intellectually capable than all of the Fox News talking chodes combined.

  • Weevie

    Trump could be, in his tiny world way, thinking he’s putting the final nails in Hillary’s coffin by destroying State Department (which won’t stand.)
    Just like he “put away” Obama’s presidency last week with those absurd tweets.
    Trump’s shooting off his feet, toe by toe. Bullshit like this administration is pushing can’t be hidden forever.
    If the Russia stuff proves out, it will make us much stronger unless Democrats fuck up the opportunity to bring people together before a Republican faction jumps in and perverts the whole thing.

    • mfp

      democrats fuck up the opp in 3…2…1….

      • boll ocks

        I wish I could disagree with your comment. But I am one cynical motherfucker these days.

        • Bunya

          Me, too. After “forgiving” Reagan for Iran-Contra and “letting bygones be bygones” for war crimes and crimes against humanity by the Bush Administration, I would say to look for things to get way worse before they get better.

  • Foocatchoo

    Rachel is delving into what others don’t; she is informative and enlightening but not frightening…. people need more layers of the onion peeled back like she’s doing to become woke.

    • Serai 1

      Jesus, I’m sick to death of that term “become woke”. It’s WAKE UP.

      • Foocatchoo

        Sorry YOU don’t like a new iteration of a word which sums up the concept of being awake. Language evolves and this is a good example of that; or dost thou nary concur? Forsooth, if thee shall not agree I shall cease to be a Knave and forbear the use of said word moving forward, kind Sir or is it Madam?

        • Serai 1

          *eyeroll* Oh, FFS. Fuck off with the hipster bullshit, thank you very much. I’m sorry you don’t know shitty pseudo-grammar meant to enforce a sense of “cool” and thus create a hierarchy – which you yourself are happily trying to enforce. But it only works on people who give a shit, Sparky.

          • Foocatchoo

            Oh, HONEY you got it all wrong! NOT a “hipster”, NOT trying to be cool either and certainly NOT putting effort into creating a “hierarchy”. As Laurie Anderson so famously said “Language is a Virus”. And, like an antibiotic, your lack of humor can’t stop it from evolving…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvOoR8m0oms

  • Hardly Ideal

    *rocks in corner, clutching Rachel Maddow dakimakura*

  • Toledo Window Box

    Every day that this fraudulent Presidency is allowed to continue is another day of horrible things we will have to undo once they are gone.

    Release the wiretaps! Release the piss video! Release the tax returns!

    What the hell are you people waiting for????

    • Paperless Tiger

      They’re waiting for mass demonstrations against Trump. Trump is not a normal president. He is trying to be a dictator. The normal niceties of democracy and constitutionality no longer apply. It will require force.

      • boll ocks

        100% agree, although I can’t claim to be excited about the prospect of what is to come.

      • Serai 1

        What, MORE mass demonstrations? How many do they need???

      • EB

        Watch “Winter on Fire” on Netflix. Documentary about what it took to get rid of Putin’s puppet in Ukraine in 2014. Ukraine is not a gun culture like the US so it would likely be much bloodier here.

  • Occupied Territory of Kavefish

    I watched Rachel’s show last night and was justifiably horrified.

    But maybe there’s still a light at the end of the tunnel, other than a fast-moving train, that is: “The ‘Opposition Party’ Keeps Getting Bigger”

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/03/americans_trust_trump_less_than_those_he_attacks.html

    Basically, the idea is that Trump’s approval against any specific foe might be greater at this point, but if you take it in aggregate, lump together everyone he vilifies or declares an enemy, then the enemy has more than double the approval rating against Trump. If all the people and institutions Trump has declared his enemy stand together, then they might be able to defeat him. However, one commenter on the article notices an absence in Trump’s list of enemies: Law enforcement and the military, so there’s that.

    Also, too, on a related note: Stephen Colbert had Gen. Michael Hayden on his show the other night and Hayden said this:

    Hayden: “The classification “god” in the American political system is the President, alright? So, when the president deceides to tweet something and make it public, it is in that action, no longer classified.”

    Since Trump tweeted that Obama had wiretapped him, then that is now declassified information and, if it did indeed occur, could be disclosed to the general public and thus prove or disprove the claim – no investigation needed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buI8aO7nRDM

    If someone smart — someone other than Trump, someone other than the malignant troll Bannon, were behind all this shit they would probably get away with it. But since the cartoon villians are in charge, the question of comeuppance is not about if but when.

    The follow up, of course, is about how long it will take to clean up the mess, afterwards.

    • Bonita Gill

      I know at least one veteran not pleased with D.T. I think there may be many. Of course, they are post-military, but will always be veterans.

  • Serai 1
  • wtw5002

    She’s bringing the pain right now. And she’s fuckin’ pissed.

  • Zyxomma

    I wish I could get back to Earth One, where Hillary is President and none of this shit is happening. I guess I need a convenient wormhole — where’s Star Labs when you need them?

    • wtw5002

      It may be a while before we can utilize wormholes. I’m guessing Donald will turn NASA and Fermilab into museums dedicated to himself.

    • Alexander Stallwitz

      I am holding out for one built by a eccentric food loving scientist and his assistant. A blond FBI lady with superpowers and Joshua Jackson to save us.

    • stuff

      on Earth one Gore won in 2000 but got one term before losing to McCain. Hillary was elected in 2012 and now serving her second term. Senator Obama is currently favored to win 2020.

  • Greyhame

    It’s like watching a hostile takeover where a vulture capitalist swoops in to gut a struggling company before selling off the assets.

    • M.E. Lawrence

      Except that vultures are sweet, useful (if somewhat smelly) creatures who clean up carrion, while venture capitalists prey on the living.

    • TundraGrifter

      Have you heard about – or perhaps read – “The Glass House?” I saw a review and I’m going to pick it up. It will probably be like “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man” – I found it so depressing I never finished it.

      Speaking of memoirs – I wonder what Wonkette’s lobbyist is up to these days? Remember her and her sweater puppies?

    • Niblet58

      And that my dear is the real bottom line. Putin and his oligarchs have raped Russia and its citizens and have now turned their greedy fucking eyes on us… with the help and aid of Trump and his whole family.

  • TundraGrifter

    “The Steele Dossier” sounds like an interesting thriller. I hope it’s a story with a happy ending.

  • going4baroque

    Upon his resignation in 1792, Henry Remsen, the first chief clerk of the Department of State, left the following instructions:

    Such of the Foreign Letters as are not filed away in the cases, are for the present put on my desk in two pigeon holes at the right hand side. The Consular returns are at the bottom of said desk right hand side … the drafts of foreign proceedings … are filed in said desk left hand pigeon hole. The letters from our ministers and charge des affaires now in commission Mr. Jefferson keeps…. A little attention will be necessary in separating the foreign from the domestic letters, as they are sent to the Office by Mr. Jefferson to be filed. My rule in making the separation was by reading them. The domestic letters to be filed in the Office down stairs, the foreign letters in the Office upstairs.

  • JParkerSD46

    So at some point the question that must be asked and answered is: Donald J. Trump, Preznit of these here U.S. of A’s (still fucking unbelievable) – useful idiot or useless eater? The world awaits.

  • This is all a plot conceived by Reynolds Wrap, Inc.

  • Kym In A Can

    “She’s smiling, but she’s going to scare you anyway.” Come to Wonkette for the terror, stay for the sass.

  • lurch394

    Shall we call the women who ushered her out “Aunt Jemima” and “Sapphire”?

  • Donna Schoenkopf

    well done, sir.

  • gsci

    Sometimes I really do have to ask myself if I am falling for a conspiracy theory, but it seems like everything is true. FYI, I got banned from posting on Breitbart because I called one of their columnists out as a troll. Freedom of speech, yeah right.

  • Bri

    First, the media has been pushing the narrative of the Russia/Trump conspiracy ever since he began to gain traction in the polls. It is amazing that before Trump began to gain numbers in the poll and he made the claims about election tampering he was accused of pushing propaganda. Actually, the then President of the United States said, “for someone to question the integrity of our elections is absolutely ridiculous.” Now, after the defeat of Hilary Clinton, suddenly, the Russians interfered in our elections on behalf of now President Trump. President Barack Obama even said that he told Vladimir Putin to “cut it out”. However, if he did know that the Russians were trying to interfere with the U.S. elections why didn’t he expose this to the American people instead, of making the above statement about it being “ridiculous to say that someone could impact our elections.” The reason is that he lied about confronting Vladimir Putin because the Russians did not impact our elections at all. To attempt to interfere with our elections would be a cyber-attack and if the last administration knew that a foreign government attempted to attack us with a cyber-attack why would you not attack back and inform the American people. When it came to the North Korean cyber-attack against Sony surrounding the movie, “The Interview” the American people were informed. So, I would imagine that our elections being attacked are more important than attacks on a Japanese based entertainment company. The intelligence agencies who have accused the Russians of the cyber-attacks were at first conflicted on whether the Russians were behind the cyber-attacks on the DNC. It is also important to mention that these are the same intelligence agencies who SAY they missed 9/11, lied about weapons of mass destruction and spied on American citizens, our allies, and lied about to the world for years. These agencies have lost a huge amount of their credibility and cannot be trusted just because they say something. Instead the American people need to challenge anything that the government and media tells us. The media in this country is not free, instead, they are owned by multi-national corporations who are in bed with the government. When you examine American history, every economic crash is proceeded by a War that takes the American people off of the economic instability. From WW2, Vietnam War, the Cold War, and the Iraq/Afghanistan War. The same is true now when politicians want to escape economic issues they have created they always push tensions with other nations. The American people need to wake up, research, and challenge everything that they are taught in school, at home, by the media and government. We need to focus on the real issues and not the propaganda that is being forced down our throats by the institutions that are in bed with the government.

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