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Trump only likes the theme song
Trump only likes the theme song

During the campaign, Donald Trump really liked to make the occasional big entrance to the theme song from the 1997 Harrison Ford action movie Air Force One, at least until the movie producers asked him to knock it off — not that a similar request by the Rolling Stones ever did any good when it came to “You Can’t Always Get What You Want.” And sure enough, on election night, Trump arrived for his acceptance speech with Jerry Goldsmith’s overbearing fanfare a-blaring. But Trump has never seemed all that hot on the airplanes themselves (there are two, one of which is always available as a backup), which all you aviation buffs already know are only designated “Air Force One” when the president is aboard — otherwise they’re just the “VC-25A” transport. The two identical 747 planes being used now, ordered during the Reagan administration, are getting old, a point Trump frequently mocked whenever he wanted to complain about Barack Obama and climate change; back in January, Trump complained,

“Watch Obama talking about the carbon footprint, and then he flies over Hawaii in an old 747 with the old engines spewing the hell out of it,” Trump said at a rally in Iowa.

“And then he gives a speech about global warming and the carbon footprint,” he added. “Gets into Air Force One, which is a very old Boeing 747, with the old, really big engines, and if you’re a believer in carbon footprint, you don’t like this, right?

Not that Trump ever thought global warming was real, but yes, the old VC-25As are not as efficient as modern jets, which is why the Air Force contracted last year with Boeing to build two new planes based on the latest 747-8, which looks like the old model but is vastly more efficient, essentially a wholly new model of aircraft. Now Trump wants to kill the new planes off, too, apparently because Trump couldn’t think of anything else to grump about on Twitter this morning:

trump-747

Why the sudden pique at Boeing? Crom only knows; we’ll probably find out he was pissed off at a Fox News story like he was with the supposed epidemic of flag burning. Or maybe it’s because Boeing and Lockheed-Martin are both in negotiations to build fighter jets for India in India. Maybe Trump just wants all presidents to own their own jets like he does, though we doubt the Air Force or Secret Service would be at all cool with President Trump continuing to use his private 757, since it lacks the security features and bells and whistles that make the VC25A an airborne command post — countermeasures against missiles, capacity for inflight refueling, secure worldwide communications, that sort of thing. Add Harrison Ford and the price goes way up, too.

Frank Luntz even decided to go all fact-checky on Trump after the tweet, citing a Politico story on the real cost of the planes: not $4 billion, but less than half that:

luntz-747

Of course, that lower cost is before you add the solid gold lavatory fixtures in the marble double vanities.

Boeing stock dropped about 1 percent after Trump’s Tweet, which led one Twitter smartass to ask, “Which one of Trump’s kids shorted a bunch of Boeing stock I wonder?”

So there’s another sample of the likely M.O. of the Trump presidency: cancel a needed upgrade of Air Force One (really, the old ones are inefficient and using old dirty engines), then brag about saving twice the money that was actually saved. Of course, if you wanted to get really cynical about Trump’s possible motivations, you could take the route that Fusion reporter Adam Weinstein did — after first tweeting the serious reason an upgrade is needed — “This is a more rigid national security req’t than most acquisitions,” Weinstein added, “Maybe the real issue here is *he* won’t get to play with the new jet.” Then he pointed out another itty bitty detail: Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions, who’s been a vital part of Trump’s transition team and gets to suppress civil rights if confirmed as Trump’s Attorney General, is awfully proud of a new Airbus factory in Mobile, Alabama; further, notes Weinstein following that “Just Sayin'” tweet, “There’s a rich recent history of Alabama senators subtweetin’ Boeing owing to the state’s happy, solicitous relationship with Airbus.”

So there’s a thing to make you go “Hmmm” on a Tuesday morning — is Trump, like a whole bunch of Republican politicians, trying to revive the fight between Boeing and Airbus (which partners with Northrop/Grumman, also based out of Alabama, and tried to get special reconsideration for an Air Force refueling tanker contract awarded to Boeing) over who gets to win another great big government contract? We aren’t sure Donald Trump really puts that much strategic thought into his ADHD tweeting, but it’s a thing to keep an eye on.

Keep watching the skies!

Oh, also, a new poll finds that 56 % of Americans think Donald Trump uses Twitter too much, and 49% think his use of Twitter is “a bad thing.” For what that’s worth.

[The Hill / Atlantic / Reuters / Politico / MarketWatch / Forbes / NYT]

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  • MynameisBlarney

    He seems to insist on making himself hard to protect.

    • beingreleased

      Has he done the math on what assassination would do to his brand?

      • MynameisBlarney

        LOL

        Maths is hard!

      • Nockular cavity

        “His” brand?

        Hint: his most trusted advisors are also his heirs.

    • JMP

      And expensive – but hey NYC is footing most of that bill.

  • Ali | Cat of the Resistance

    Oh, also, a new poll finds that 56 % of Americans thing Donald Trump uses Twitter too much

    And I’ll bet 100% of them are still following his account.

    • Ali | Cat of the Resistance

      I’m guessing they’re not covering it from the “PE-Drumpf manipulates the market for his possible financial benefit because he’s a horrible, horrible person” angle.

  • beingreleased

    He just wants to charge the government for using his plane.

    • OneYieldRegular

      >THAT<

    • willi0000000

      . . . and he wants to keep all the retrofit toys when it’s over.

  • Nounverb911
    • Thiazin Red

      JFC he calls it Trump Force one? Of course.

    • elviouslyqueer

      And once again, TFS comes up short.

    • msanthropesmr

      Hey Chris you asshat we remember your obsession with Sec Clinton’s emails. Fuck you buddy. You made this asshole. Stfu.

    • FauxAntocles

      The smaller plane makes his hands look bigger.

  • kindness

    If the Donald really wants to re-paint Air Force One we should let him so long as Donald never receives ownership of said plane and pays for all the maintenance and fuel costs (out of Donald’s own pocket (or what ever ‘charity’ Donald is scamming at the moment)). I’d be OK with that.

  • Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie

    Every public official who continues to support Trump and refuses to acknowledge the increasingly obvious fact of his manifest unfitness for the office of POTUS is guilty of treason.

    It really is as simple as that.

  • Nounverb911

    So does donnie still own his Boeing stock?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/291964245602607105

    • Ali | Cat of the Resistance

      I wouldn’t be surprised if he sold it shortly before making the tweet.

  • Duke

    What to expect from a Trump presidency:

    A constant stream of random BS.

    I think the analysts are right that he puts out this garbage to distract from what he’s really doing.

    • That attitude really sells short the intelligence of the average US citiz OH MY GOD TRUMP TWEETED ABOUT HOW LAME THE HELLS KITCHEN CONTESTANTS ARE THIS SEASON!!! LET’S GO SEE!

    • Ali | Cat of the Resistance

      As long as the media keeps eating it up, we’re screwed.

      • Duke

        It’s too easy, though.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Der drumpfolini is a goddamn ignoramus of epic proportions.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141632892

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      The government has contracted with Boeing to build two or more new planes, which would go into service around 2024. That means Trump wouldn’t fly on the new planes, which carry U.S. presidents around the globe, unless he pursued and won a second term.

      So he’ll be fucking over future presidents as well? Good to know!

      /FFS

      • GunToting[Redacted]

        Ha, like there will even BE “future presidents.”

        • Nockular cavity

          The next President–of the Kingdom of (the non-radioactive parts of) D.C–will ride in Oxcart One.

  • exinkwretch

    Will the new call sign be “Asshole One” instead of “Air Force One?”

    • Thiazin Red

      Twat Force One?
      Hair Farce One?

    • cynmac will never surrender

      Makes sense that Pence’s plan would then be “Asshole Two”.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    “Watch Obama talking about the carbon footprint, and then he flies over Hawaii in an old 747 with the old engines spewing the hell out of it,” Trump said at a rally in Iowa.

    And if Obama had requested new planes, your Reeps in Congress would have railed against him, so what the fuck is your point, Cheeto Jeebus?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c607cdf90a11e967296ca48d8e4f3e1ebad8bec9be0b13e85f9e242b58e6b529.jpg

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      I mean this is the guy that expected one senator to reform the entire tax code.

  • Nounverb911
    • jesuswasablack

      Hands are too big!

  • Bill D. Burger

    Juuuuuuuuuust’ a slight modification. All better.

    https://i.imgflip.com/q4fl9.jpg

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    And of course any airplane Tiny Hands Double Chin is on becomes “Hair Force One.”

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    49% think [Trump’s] use of Twitter is “a bad thing.”

    So? 100% of Americans voted for Trump*
    _______________________________________________
    * If you don’t count the 65,000,000 votes for Hillary which were, by definition, illegal.

  • Nounverb911
    • MizzMazz

      Bwahahaha. We had one of those planes land in the airport where I work, and one passenger scowled and said, “Why does he need a plane that big, and with his name in 29 foot letters on it?” Another passenger quipped, “To fit his ego inside.”
      Good times.

  • jesuswasablack
  • JMP

    Isn’t it great living in a banana republic with a President-elect who is making unprecedented abuse of his office to enrich himself with still a month and a half to go before he takes office?

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      “Better cash in now before I fuck up and Congress impeaches me!”

      – Donald

      • JMP

        “He’s Republican, so we’ll let him do whatever he wants no matter how illegal.”

        -Congress

      • “You can’t impeach me! I quit! Smell ya later, suckers!”
        TRUMP 01/31/2016

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Which one of Trump’s kids shorted a bunch of Boeing stock I wonder?

    All of them, Katie.

  • beavertank

    When even Frank Luntz is against the GOP president-elect you know the world has gone mad.

    • willi0000000

      asshole helped put him there so fuck him!

  • Msgr_Moment

    trumptwitt:
    Trump’s inflated Air Force One cost rumors are out of control; more than 100% overrun. Cancel order!
    /trumptwitt:

  • Beanz&Berryz

    Jiminy. VC25A is an actual important thing to the US government. These look to cost about twice a generic 747-800, but with a shit-ton of fancy, expensive add-ons that are necessary and, as custom add-ons, are probably even kinda low-balled in their pricing. WTF is he up to? It’s getting almost equally hard to believe that either (1) he has so little impulse control he can’t not do something stupid every time his attention drifts from something else or (2) he’s so fucking brilliant he’s spinning all of this in 12-level chess sophistication. I know it’s not the latter, but gawddamn he has so little impulse control it’s fucking hard to believe…

    • Yeah – it costs a bit of money to make the plane resistant to EMPs, capable of mid-air refueling, and capable of running the entire country from 35,000 feet.

      • cynmac will never surrender

        “Running the country”? You’re so funny.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          OK… Running the whole of the US military…

          • cynmac will never surrender

            Still hilarious.

          • Brendan_M

            Okay, “when Pence is aboard”. You happy now?

          • cynmac will never surrender

            Never.

          • Mr. Blobfish

            You misspelled ruining.

        • boyblue122

          for Drumpf, running the country just means having
          wi-fi to tweet at Alec Baldwin for his drumpf SNL impersonations

    • 1.6B translates into $800M per plane. $350M for the base unit, and $450M in upgrades – seems about right. The EMP retrofitting alone is probabally $200M

      • Beanz&Berryz

        And communications, defensive counter-measures, heavy cargo load capability … all bolted onto an airplane that’s generally built for other things…

        • willi0000000

          it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s some very offensive defensive measures also too.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            A pointy stick isn’t a bad thing to have.

    • Mary Sandoras

      I’m sure there’s a con game in there somewhere. That’s what he excels at.

  • boyblue122

    Does he want to federal govt to upgrade his dumpy plane so that when he leaves office he doesnt have to pay for the upgrades himself

    • baconzgood

      He cant. The real reason they have 2 planes is that the Secret Service some times like to play shell games with Air Force 1. So the government would have to buy him 2 planes.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Refitting is almost complete. Scoop here…enjoy!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgF0C-yWID4

    And the new Presidential limo. ~goosebumps!~

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPnFN7KzJ5c

  • baconzgood

    I’m just curious what his popularity will be entering office? If he keeps going like this he might enter the White House with the lowest approval ratings than any other president elect.

    • Ali | Cat of the Resistance

      I think he’s already there? I thought Wonkette had a thing about a poll that his approval rating was lower than anybody in the past 30 years.

  • jesuswasablack

    “Cancel Order”
    Trump’s real issue is that it’s just not big enough!
    http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/56bcb8491a00002d00ab2770.jpeg

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    He’ll probably give the contract to Airbus in exchange for some hotel building permits in Paris.

  • “Who shorted the Boeing Stock before the tweet”.
    IVANKA and her blind trusting in father.

    • Brendan_M

      They would never engage in such a blatant conflict of interest! They probably had Kushner short the stock, so they can’t be connected to it. Smart!

  • Nounverb911
  • Mary Sandoras

    So smoke and mirrors? Cancel contract than award it to Airbus? Surely some gifts would be exchanged.

    • Shucky Ducky

      The airbus A380 is so big it can only land in approximately 20 US airports.

  • Mpeg

    Well, Harrison Ford should be included as part of the deal. Then he and Trump can BOTH listen to Carrie Fisher’s latest tell-all autobiography, on disc, with speakers turned up loud, so they can listen to her dish spurious dirt on them (“Trump is Absolutely a Cokehead”;; “My Intense Affair with Harrison”) and high-five each other – – It will be quite a male bonding moment for them!

    • Brendan_M

      As long as this time [spoiler alert] it ends with Trump getting gutted with a lightsaber.

      • Nockular cavity

        Or Ford says “Get off my plane!” and kicks him out mid-flight.

        • Brendan_M

          Or Ford says “I’m a pilot, let me take the yoke for a minute” and takes AFO into one of Donald’s tremendous, world-class golf courses. Whatever works.

  • Scooby

    I’m not worried I’m thinking of all the money we are going to save by going to war with China.

    • Bill D. Burger

      And all the cheap properties that can be scooped up in the aftermath!
      ~goosebumps~

      “I hope their is a war. I kinda like war.” ___ Trump on Howard Stern’s show.

      • Scooby

        Trump Tower in New Beijing?

        • Nockular cavity

          I’m gonna go full Akira and say Neo-Tokyo.

          • Scooby

            新东京

          • MynameisBlarney

            Two very very excellent films.

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Look Closer

      Boy, I’d say!

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions, who’s been a vital part of Trump’s transition team and gets to suppress civil rights if confirmed as Trump’s Attorney General, is awfully proud of a new Airbus factory in Mobile, Alabama

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e73b30751f4263bf6b634823d3acda4f9a276b20e040a42afcee063834a21df8.jpg

    • OneYieldRegular

      Yes, why give contracts to an American manufacturer when you can have a European one right in your own back yard?

  • Rick Hill

    Gee, with the entire US economy as his playground he can surely make his net worth something respectable, right?

  • The current planes are nearly three decades old. It’s harder to keep planes in the air as they age and go through tens of thousands of pressurization/depressurization cycles – even with them being well-maintained, parts just wear out. And Boeing, having built both the current and previous planes used as Air Force One, already knows most of the specs needed.
    But sure, you can keep using your 757, which is older than Air Force One and I would wager isn’t anywhere as near well-maintained.

    • Nounverb911

      And barely has the range to get across the Atlantic, let alone the Pacific….

      • phoenix00

        And nowhere near the capabilities of the current VC-25A (ie. AIR-TO-AIR REFUELING)

  • Nounverb911

    Cancel the order? Way to promote American jobs, donnie.

    • jesuswasablack

      He’s already saved a hundred or so in Indiana, job done!

    • Shan – Mildly Depraved

      Yeah, that was my thought as well.

  • JVisconti

    I got two Tupolev Tu-154s on the lot right now. Low miles and special deal for my friend.
    – Crazy Vlad

    • phoenix00

      With Special Twitter onboard!

  • elviouslyqueer

    Oh honestly, these tweets are the technological equivalent of a nighttime Dutch oven in Melania’s bedroom.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      I’m not getting the mental or metaphorical image of a nighttime Dutch oven in Melania’s bedroom… as a technological equivalent

    • feral_calliecallie

      A Dutch oven? Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

  • Scooby

    I’m given her all she’s got captain … The engines can’t take anymore!
    -Trump going down north of Hudson Bay

  • Creepoman

    I, for one, am perfectly fine with Trump flying around in his POS 757, without “countermeasures against missiles” and the like. Dropping into Bagram to visit the troops is not the same as creating a metaphor for America at Logan. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b702fd08294c41966f8492c9f978edd359e9fe5f70e6352d273a1b9d5200a534.png

    • beingreleased

      He’s not going to go anyplace dangerous. He won’t even go anyplace his stereotypes makes him think might be dangerous.

      • Creepoman

        Very true – he seems to have settled into a tried and true circle of rust belt towns that (for now) provide him with the nutrient he craves – blind adulation.

        • OneYieldRegular

          “The rest of you losers are just a no-go zone to me.”

      • MynameisBlarney

        He’ll send Pence all over the globe to do the preznit’s job.

    • Msgr_Moment

      Maybe he’s got a couple of those hanging around from Trump Hairlines?

  • XtremeFeministRodeoQueen MLG

    Give him a cape and point him toward the top of one of his tacky buildings. With votes. That’s how you save America…..money.

    • You made sure to remove the “cape does not enable user to fly: warning, right?

      • aureolaborealis

        No need! He doesn’t read!

        • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

          We’re in a post-factual time. Those kinds of so-called “warnings” are simply suggestions made by jealous people who don’t know how to have fun. SAD!

        • #trumpcantread

  • Nounverb911

    Boeing’s statement on trump’s asshattery:

    https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/806175687367335938

    • Rick Hill

      What? People are expecting the truth out of trump, now?

      • Nounverb911

        Facts? How do they….Oh, never mind.

        • Rick Hill

          “You want the truth? There is no truth!!!”

          • Msgr_Moment

            How inconvenient.

          • Rick Hill

            trump will tell you what’s the truth when he decides you need to know it.

      • feral_calliecallie

        If he says it, it’s truth. Isn’t that how it works now?

    • Msgr_Moment

      Are you gonna trust Trump, or your lyin’ brain?

    • baconzgood

      Numbers have a liberal bias.

    • elviouslyqueer

      Cold Making Shit Up LIBEL!

  • major_asshole

    I wouldn’t add Harrison Ford. He’s a great actor and one of my idols, but one of the last planes he tried flying made an unscheduled stop in a Los Angeles golf course…

  • TJ Barke

    My grandpa worked for boeing years ago. He said back in the day they called it Boeing; airplane and storm door company.

  • Msgr_Moment

    HEIL
    to the
    CHEAT.

  • goonemeritus

    By sourcing the new planes in China he will save 2 trillion of the $1.65 billion purchase.

    • Msgr_Moment

      minus the 35% tarriff.

      • therblig

        Make America Tariffic Again!

  • Oh, also, a new poll finds that 56 % of Americans thing Donald Trump uses Twitter too much, and 49% think his use of Twitter is “a bad thing.”

    If only there were some way for people to express their fucking feelings in a way that actually mattered, like coming together every four years to say who we think is the most responsible person to run the country that wasn’t dominated by stupid fucking assholes who somehow couldn’t pay attention to the last two years where the would-be king got into Twitter fights over EVERYTHING!

    • Msgr_Moment

      Well, there’s the Electoral College, which kinda does that.

    • GoutMachine

      In other news, 51% of Americans are stupid.

      • SpideySenser

        That number sounds like low-balling it. I’m thinking the percentages are way higher.

  • Rick Hill

    W̶i̶n̶t̶h̶r̶o̶p̶ Dad just made us 13 million dollars, Eric.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EXJziZL2lCA/Usrc7efSEJI/AAAAAAAACMM/G2xwNc-A91I/s1600/trading+places+3.jpg

  • weejee

    And those planes would be built in the Soviet of Washington where tRump got his rump kicked.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      The plane bodies are… the engines and lots of the other add-on parts are built all over everyplace…

      • weejee

        For sure, but to tRump I’m guessing the Lazy B = Washington.

        • Whale Chowder

          Which is especially rich considering that Lazy B HQ is now…Chicago.

          • phoenix00

            Illinois still went Demo

  • baconzgood

    Hey Don, I wouldn’t go around picking a fight with Boeing…THEY are one of the companies that REALLY control Congress.

    You’ll soon find yourself in a congressional investigation about your 1040.

    • Rick Hill

      He’s only just begun to manipulate the economy! Bwahahahahahaha

      • Cathleenhgarcia

        Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! !sy616c:
        On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
        !sy616c:
        ➽➽
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    • shaar dula

      that only for those who file EZ. Non-EZ are the preferred filees.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Though, we are a bit past the days of Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson, also known as “the Senator from Boeing.”

  • LarryHoudini

    Frank Luntz calls out Trump for talking bullshit? Coming soon:
    Martin Shkreli: “Trump is a selfish bastard only interested in profit.”
    Joe Francis: “I feel like Trump truly hates and degrades woman.”
    Kim Kardashian: “Donald’s whole life is like one big vanity project.”
    Zombie Pol Pot: “Trump is an unsavory character.”
    Charlie Sheen: “The dude lacks a moral compass.”

    • AntiDerpomeme

      A. Hitler “Geeze, this guy. What a self-aggrandizing, racist asshole!”

    • Ali | Cat of the Resistance

      I think Kim had already come out as anti-Trump. Although with Kanye now, who knows.

  • So WaPo is reporting that a Trump spokesman says Trump sold his entire stock portfolio in June.

    Hmmm.

    • Will anyone ever be able to verify that? No? What a surprise.

    • The Wanderer

      Does anyone believe that?

      • feral_calliecallie

        No.

    • An Outhouse for the Resistance

      Because by last June, he was confident he was going to win.

    • boyblue122

      He also said the leader of Taiwan called him

      • The Wanderer

        After groundwork had been laid by a Trump aide.

  • Oh crap, he was using Jerry Goldsmith’s music??? He was my favorite movie composer. I’m sure he’s spinning in his grave. (Goldsmith soundtracks to check out include the original Planet of the Apes, and Star Trek: First Contact. The Borg music is really incredible, in a creepy spooky kind of way; kind of like The Borg.)

    • The Wanderer

      The Borg were modeled after every cult ever, also too Microsoft.

    • Markuserektus

      He likes Andrew Lloyd Webber also, too…

      • He should’ve used Borg music.

    • Royal Ugly Dude

      Wrath of Khan soundtrack or GTFO.

      • Horner really lucked out on that, as I recall.

  • Clyde Barrow
    • mailman27

      All that high tech, but Robt Plant could never figure out how to use buttons.

    • OneYieldRegular

      Hey, I’ve been aboard the Lisa Marie. Trump was still playing dress-up soldier when Elvis flew around in that thing.

  • beingreleased

    This is such a rich topic. Here are a couple of things.

    1) From the reuters article linked above:

    In a September 2015 Rolling Stone profile of Trump, early on in his presidential campaign, he was quoted as gushing about the capabilities of his own Boeing plane.

    “I bought this from Paul Allen and gutted it top to bottom. It’s bigger than Air Force One, which is a step down from this in every way. Rolls-Royce engines; seats 43. Did you know it was featured on the Discovery Channel as the world’s most luxurious jetliner?” he said.

    Air Force 1 is not about luxury. It is about the president’s security and his ability to President while flying. Once again, Trump has not idea what he’s doing.

    b) The new planes are not scheduled for flight until 2024. If Trump cancel’s them, then when we get to 2024, it will be determined that the old planes are too old for service and the Republicans will say “Look we should have prepared but government screwed up again.” Once again, fucking the country over is a pure win for Republicans.

    • Rick Hill

      “If I put all those high tech gizmos and communications in my plane, I get to keep them when I leave office.”

    • Clyde Barrow

      I doubt if Trump Force One has chaff/flare dispensers, advanced electronic countermeasure capability, nuclear/chemical/biological warfare protections, and the IFF codes to prevent from being shot down by friendly fire.

      By all means, let Trump keep flying around in his gold plated target.

    • mancityRed6

      doesn’t he know that a 747 is bigger than a 757?
      http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/1size757737.jpg
      or does he think the bigger numbers mean it’s bigger?

    • OneYieldRegular

      Bah. Trump’s going to coordinate with Putin to have Sukhoi State Aircraft Company make matching his and his planes.

  • Rick Hill

    Vlad steps up and offers to furnish a brand new preznitial jet for trump to toodle around in. Even has a lot of great hand carved pieces, dedicated to the fine taste and intelligence of donald trump
    http://www.cryptomuseum.com/covert/bugs/thing/img/great_seal.png

  • Nounverb911
    • OneYieldRegular

      When you tack on fancy extras like a rainbow projector under the cockpit window, the costs do tend to go up a bit.

  • Señor Skwerl!

    Even at 4 billion it would be a cheap as far as defense contracts go.

    • sw19womble

      It’s like Boeing isn’t even trying.

      • Markuserektus

        Needs moar screwdrivers.

  • Anna Rompage

    This guy really has no clue, does he?

    First he breaks protocol and destabilizes our relations with china by speaking with the leader of Taiwan, as well as threatening a trade war through twitter. And now the dumb shit is making statements that are negatively effecting the stock market prices for Boeing…

    What a fucking turd goblin…

    • MynameisBlarney

      I got a feeling that his own “people” are going to end him.

  • bookish
    • The Wanderer

      Oh. Kay.
      So he’ll just leave it to Zombie-Eyed Granny Starver and his meth-addled minions to draw up the budget, which will be happily passed by aforesaid meth-addled minions and just as cheerfully approved by Grandma Turtle and the Old Boys.

      • bookish

        I don’t know. I am feeling so disoriented by this guy. Every day is chaos and he’s not even President yet.

        • sw19womble

          Misdirection.
          So many squirrels….

      • theCryptofishist

        Can we get Z-EGS to work on GT?

    • feral_calliecallie

      This is also one of House Budgdet Committee Chair Price’s proposed reforms. He would like to change things so the House submits the first budget proposal. When I read about that yesterday, I thought it was a total non-starter. Now I’m not so sure. All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Or in this case, the President.

    • phoenix00

      We’re still waiting for his taxes!

  • sw19womble

    Stick him in an F-35. Job done.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Or, if it’s not against the Wonk Posting Rules… a MIG-29 or Su-33…

    • boyblue122

      How about whenever he has to travel somewhere we shoot him from a cannon like hes in the circus

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Why not just contract with Gazpromavia?

  • Ali | Cat of the Resistance

    So when do the Trumpkins start up their Boycott Boenig thing?

    • Mary Sandoras

      What? They won’t buy their jets?

    • Rick Hill

      “I always liked Boeing but i will no longer use their products and I am making my next airplane purchase at Airbus.”

      • sw19womble

        They realise Airbus is a European consortium, right?

        • Rick Hill

          French, to boot

          • Land Shark

            Ooo la la!

          • Nounverb911

            I read on the internets that the wings are made of cheese.

          • Usedtobeyellerdawg

            Hah! That’s a gouda one.

          • theCryptofishist

            No, it’s as full of holes as any Emmenthal.

          • BigBoppa pour la résistance

            YOU MUENSTER!!!!!!!11!

          • mailman27

            Cedar?

          • sw19womble

            I’m sure Airbus will surrender their prices in the face of Trump’s amazing negotiation skills.

        • Nockular cavity

          Good thing they’re not gonna be our allies any more! That won’t cause any troubles with the Presidential jet.

      • The Wanderer

        So . . . he’ll have Airbus build AF1? So much for buying American.

      • shaar dula

        French flies.

    • Nounverb911

      Well, he’s probably close to getting the Chinese to boycott Boeing jets.

    • therblig

      they wouldn’t write “Trump Won!” on my 747, so I’m taking my business elsewhere.

    • Clyde Barrow

      When they paint their planes like Starbuck’s Christmas cups.

    • Me not sure

      Boycott boning?…Nah!

    • shaar dula

      when the average trumpkin realizes there is an entire world outside the 40 miles of his home?

  • Rick Hill

    “Look at that!” I make one twit and time some stock purchases just right and I make money! What a great gig this is!!”

  • TheGrandWaz00

    I’ll never forget the day I was sitting on a hilltop back in 2012 watching northern Colorado Springs burn from the Waldo canyon fire when Air Force One flew right over my head at about 500 feet. I waved to Obama, and though I didn’t see him wave back, I’m sure he did.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    Sorry, did you say Frank Luntz?

    • Brendan_M

      Our test groups find there are too many negative connotations to the phrase “Frank Luntz”, so we recommend rebranding “Frank Luntz” as “that guy that seems pleasant enough when he’s next to Sean Hannity, explaining audience reactions and voter opinions, but not in any other context”.

  • Panika MCD

    isn’t one of the planes designated as “Air Force Two” when the VP is using it?

    • Brendan_M

      Anything Mike Pence is involved with turns to number two.

  • Vincent Ricola

    This is too stupid to even laugh at, I shudder to think about what President Griftalot’s real motives are for picking this weird fight.

    • sw19womble

      The stupids fall for it tho. Every time.

    • Doug Langley

      Motives are simple. He just likes to pick fights.

  • Anna Rompage

    The real reason why Donald likes his personal 757 over Air Force One? The main door on his 757 is 2′ wider, so his head doesn’t scrape on both sides of the door frame as he enters and exits the plane…

    • The Wanderer

      Easy fix – lube sprayers that will ooze 40-weight oil.

      • HogeyeGrex

        Bannon and Lewandowski?

  • Nounverb911

    Actual GSA (trump’s landlord at the post office) contract with Boeing.

    https://twitter.com/EricLiptonNYT/status/806183804301938689

    • OneYieldRegular

      Bqwatevwr, egghead. Like FACTS even exist.

  • Nounverb911

    Donnie does realize AF1 has unlimited range with mid air refueling, Trump force none, not so much?
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a3ca45c91f191e5ce370b16fc15bad1c62764ee03edf3bfbae8f2191ecbe24a5.jpg
    (Similar aircraft shown)

    • Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie

      No, he doesn’t. Any time Donnie appears to have “known” something, or to have been correct about it, it has been purely by accident.

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      Trump looks at photo of planes refueling, gets enraged. “I see what you’re trying to do there! Well, it’s not going to work! NOT NICE!”

      Boeing Representative: “Mr. Trump? I don’t understand. Is there a problem?”

      Trump: “You bet there is! You’re clearly making a joke about groping! Look at that terrible weak meme! You made it look like my plane is groping that other one! SAD! FAILING BOEING! YOU’LL PAY FOR THIS”

  • Panika MCD

    there was something on the radio this morning, but I don’t know if I heard it correctly because I was only half awake and may have been conflating two stories and NPR takes forever to put up its content online.

    did I correctly hear that a lot of Boeing parts are manufactured in China and that may be part of the motivation here?

    • Historicat

      I’m guessing it has more to do with that nice new Airbus facility in Alabama.

    • phoenix00

      Boeing has a assembly plant in China, cranking out mostly 737s.

  • AntiDerpomeme

    There are youge, classy, bigly Airbus factories here in France which would, I’m sure, be happy to help design and build a new AF1. Of course, that doesn’t help with those ‘Murican jobs that Rusty Turdbowl is supposed to be creatin’ and makin’ with the crony capitalism, nosiree.

    • XtremeFeministRodeoQueen MLG

      Rusty Turdbowl! Hahahaaa!

  • Mavenmaven

    Standing next to that big Boeing plane makes his hands look small.

    • phoenix00

      Makes his own Boeing look small too

  • Surprise! I am at the movies again. Seeing Moonlight in 15 and probably Bad Santa afterwards

  • Constant Gardener

    Is this one of his “can’t help but tweet because he’s dumber than a post” tweets, or is this a “he’s up to something super-nefarious and wants us to look away” tweets?

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      yes

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      He’s dumber than a post. ✅
      He’s up to something super-nefarious ✅
      He’s distracting some rubes ✅
      He’s trying to exact some form of revenge on someone ✅

      TRUMP IS ALL THE SHITTY THINGS

    • Last Hussar

      I can’t imagine he has the imagination or attention span for even a little bit nefarious, let alone super…

  • Mr. Blobfish

    “I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things”.

    • Clyde Barrow

      Words I have mumbled to myself when I was wandering through Joshua Tree National Park at sunrise whilst high on mushrooms.

  • Nounverb911
    • Mr. Blobfish

      Stop being so economically anxious.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Oh my…Donnie’s freak-out now has a basis… as a personal tweet storm over Boeing opining about Trump taking a dump in the global economic pool… OMFG… He’s a nightmare!

    • Brendan_M

      The simplest explanation, that Donald is a pissy, impulsive, thin-skinned man-child, is almost always the correct one. Josh Marshall coined the term “Trump’s Razor” for these kinds of situations.

      • Last Hussar

        Oh, that would be it. How did we miss that?

  • Rick Hill

    Seriously, is he going to do this with all the contracts or just the ones he can make a quick buck off of?

  • DQKennard

    Wait, wait! Give Donnie a chance! He just wants a little time to get the Taiwanese to lend him enough money to buy a company that can charge the US Government to upgrade his personal plane.

    • Rick Hill

      He has “new preznitial jet” on his gift registry. Along with a lot of other cool stuff. Being preznit is going to be so cash!

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      I bet he could negotiate a terrific deal with Sukhoi to supply all new planes across the board. Save the taxpayers billions!

      • Last Hussar

        I’m sure the Russians will be happy to put the comms on it for free! Save a fortune.

  • Señor Skwerl!

    BTW, if he orders the cancellation, we still have to foot the bill as it is a government contract.

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      He won’t have room to fit that fact into the twitter announcement.

    • HogeyeGrex

      Donnie doesn’t understand actually having to pay people because of a contract. I mean, maybe he’s not satisfied with their work?

  • boyblue122

    Liar-in-chief probably lying again about selling his Boeing stock

    https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/806191773055852544

    • Are his gums flapping? He’s lying then. That’s how you tell

      • Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie

        Lips moving, thumbs clicking, Donnie’s lying.

  • Rick Hill

    Gee, Wall St. What’s your next move? Considering we keep hearing about how much you like stability and stuff

    • Clyde Barrow

      Put their heads in the sand, continue the current bubble, and hedge their bets for the inevitable transfer of wealth from Main Street to Wall Street. Same ol’ song and dance.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      They’ll be quite happy for the next year or so. All the deregulation and corporate tax cuts will goose the economy and they’ll make money. At that point, they will once again start prepping for the unavoidable bad part and prepare for the inevitable breaking of the bubble, as they dump the fallout in our laps- just like last time.

      • SuspectedDemocrat

        The guys making the decisions at the top are more than prepared for a downturn. My hope is in a year or two I’ll be better prepared than the average Trump voter.

      • NastyBossetti

        The system works!

  • Ambignostic

    Josh Marshall noticed that 22 minutes before Trump’s tweet, the Chicago Tribune posted an article that featured Boeing’s CEO expressing concern about Trump’s stance toward China. Irresponsible to speculate? http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/did-boeing-get-out-of-line

    • Beanz&Berryz

      22 minutes… that’s a shockingly fast dive into a raging tantrum…

      • Shan – Mildly Depraved

        You know he’s not reading all those things himself. There are staffers feeding him stuff to get cranked up about. On purpose.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          But 22 minutes… wholly crap… literally

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            can you imagine his Google alerts?

          • Beanz&Berryz

            the background sounds of an old-school pinball arcade comes to mind…

          • Naytch

            Those are his synapses…

          • SuspectedDemocrat

            Google alerts are too leftist. He subscribes to Alex Jones alerts.

          • ibwilliamsi

            Fox News alerts. Nothing’s to faux for Don Cheeto.

          • SuspectedDemocrat

            What and let that communist Megyn Kelly bleed all over his news feed?

          • Naytch

            Drudge siren?

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Dok, your India link thingy is broken

    • doktorzoom

      Thanks, will fix.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        gotcha, I thought you were aiming directly at WaPo.

  • JustDon’tSayDittos
    • HogeyeGrex

      Oh, that’s going to get worn right out over the next four years.

      • GoutMachine

        And I’m going to do a blanket “Theodore Donald ‘Donny’ Kerabatsos LIBELZ!!!!1!!” to tide us over.

      • JustDon’tSayDittos

        That’s for sure. Maybe a psychedelic version?

  • Nounverb911

    You know just like “undercoating” on a new car….

    https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/806152454869917698

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      They install that EMP coating at the factory.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Trump has his eyes on a shiney new Сухой Суперджет 100

  • Nounverb911
    • Dazza

      Brilliant. Also true, I’m sorry to say.

  • SterWonk

    It’s also worth nothing that the upgrade of Marine One (aka the presidential helicopters) was initiated by W, but wouldn’t have arrived until Obama. And then there were calls for Obama to cancel it, because why should we waste money so he can get new ‘copters when there’s a recession and people are out of work? And so we ended up paying more than it would cost to take delivery of the completed units to have Lockheed put them in storage.

    In summary, political optics is stupid. :-(

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      couldn’t let the blah guy have new transpo

      • Beanz&Berryz

        also referred to as a pimped-out rig…

      • VagendaofNastyWoman

        Well he would just have to sit in the back, anyway.

      • Last Hussar

        What do you call a black man in a helicopter?

  • Bitter Scribe

    THIS is what he’s concerning himself with? THIS is what has the attention of the man who is about to become President of the United States????

    We are fucked. It just remains to be seen how hard, in which hole(s), with how much bleeding.

    • ibwilliamsi

      All of ’em – any of ’em.

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      “America’s Torn But Whole”

    • theCryptofishist

      “Make America a Laughing Stock Again.”

  • boyblue122

    Statement From Boeing’s CEO:

    “Last year, we delivered 495 737s from our factory in Renton, Wash., to customers around the world. One in every 3 of those 737s were bound for China. And about a quarter of all our airplane deliveries … were bound for Chinese customers . This phenomenon would have been unimaginable when I started at the company in 1985,” said Muilenburg, who began his Boeing career as an aerospace engineer.”

    The effect of Boeing-made planes on the US economy :

    A steady influx of China commercial jet orders means more work for Boeing’s thousands of U.S. workers while also providing lift for its network of domestic parts supplier and vendors.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/columnists/ct-boeing-china-trump-robert-reed-1206-biz-20161205-column.html

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      For some reason I don’t get the feeling Trump will be as concerned about factories in blue states.

      • beingreleased

        Good point. Do you think the Carrier deal includes the proviso that only the jobs of people who voted for Trump get saved?

    • Shoto

      “Which Ghina is Boeing’s CEO referring to, Taiwan, Ghina, or that other Ghina?”

      — Donnie Drumpf, Foreign Affairs Expert, and Preznit of the Skies

  • Nounverb911
  • Beanz&Berryz

    So there’s a lesson today kids… When Trump tweetshits some random snarl that’s directed at someone or something in particular, we only really need to figure out what that particular someone or something recently said about Trump (or maybe Trumpism).

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Does he really need something that big to fly between NYC and Palm Beach?

    • Anna Rompage

      Apparently it takes a lot of space to fit his ego, and head, into the thing…

      • Bill Diaz

        I would say that his fat ass and his bulging gut are far more impressive in the ‘relative displacement’ category.

        Have a great day!

    • Shoto
      • Land Shark

        Trümpenfuhrer’s head wouldn’t fit.

      • Rachel Book Harlot

        But what about his hair?

        • Doug Langley

          It could only be an improvement.

        • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

          He can always strap it to the roof in a pet carrier, according to one of his advisers.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        But I do see how the bicyclist Wright Brothers coulda built an aeroplane…

  • ibwilliamsi

    I just figured he wanted to rent his solid gold Trump plane to himself and bill expenses to us.

    • Shoto

      For the Win!

    • cmd

      Yeah, and he probably can’t write his stupid name on it.

      • Bill Slider

        I have the answer for how to keep his name on Air Force I. Print one letter per window shade, then pull those shades down.

    • DahBoner
  • Anna Rompage

    The cost for a single basic 747-8 commercial airliner is approx $400 million. Doesn’t it make sense that one that is outfitted with all the tech that is standard on Air Force One, such as defensive counter measures, increased range, the ability to operate in a nuclear contaminated environment, state of the art encrypted communications systems, and the ability to refuel in flight, just to name a few, would double the cost of the plane?

    I mean holy shit, the communications system alone likely cost millions upon millions of dollars, as it’s not like you can use twitter to communicate top secret information… Donald is aware of that isn’t he? No twitter for top secret shit?

    • Bill Diaz

      To answer your final question, no the Circus Peanut in Chief doesnt know much of anything about his future employment, the requirements or the decorum necessary to serve as this nation’s chief executive.

      Have a great day!

      • snark-lurker

        HAY GUYS mebbe now we get truth about UFOs when duh PigD tweeters the secrets & also too hoo really killed JFK & Jimmy Hoffa & why we can’t have nice things & wut ever happened to sideboob

    • zerosumgame0005

      not to mention the hardening against EMP pulses!

    • theCryptofishist

      See, where you go astray is “make sense.”

    • Doug Langley
  • Carpe Vagenda

    Or maybe he just wants to force the Air Force to rent his private plane at a premium.

    • Rick Hill

      First things first. Number one is to make a bit of money playing the market

    • John Smith

      He thinks he’ll be getting a free upgrade to it. Chaff, avionics, communication, etc.

    • Krombopulous Pichael

      dumb thing is, his plane is also from that era…. OLD!

  • Rick Hill

    Also up, trump towers is advertising the free SS protection that comes with buying an apartment in the building. Isyn

    • boyblue122

      He should also mention that its the #1 terrorist target in the country

      • Rachel Book Harlot

        Plus all the protests that are certain to erupt there for the next 4 years.

  • Shoto

    I recommend that Drumpf use this fine, state-of-the-art aircraft. Should be rolling off the assembly line any minute.

    https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/wpid-article-1330610104711-11fc2197000005dc-302588_466x310.jpg

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      This made me laugh out loud! :)

    • Doug Langley

      It would certainly fit in his budget.

    • zerosumgame0005

      what ARE those props? roofing shingles?

  • Last Hussar

    Trump should fly Oceanic Air.

  • Marceline

    One has to wonder how the one percenters feel knowing that Trump can now tank their stock with a tweet.

  • azeyote

    i don’t care what airplane he flies on as long as he flies away – forever

  • John Smith

    “marble double vanities.”

    Trump family libelz!!!111

  • Blackest Noobs

    let him fly around on Trump One instead of Airforce One.

    itll be helluva lot easier to shoot down Trump One

    • The real benefit is that he wouldn’t have the same communications ability while aboard Trump One.

      • Doug Langley

        With our luck, he probably has a Twitter server built in. What more does he need?

        • MynameisBlarney

          A McDonalds?

          • Doug Langley

            You think of everything!

        • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

          A furniture store in the back? Handwarming stations to facilitate all-weather grabbing?

          • theCryptofishist

            And a yuuuuuge supply of tictacs.

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      Oh Vladimir, you aren’t supposing to be typing those things out loud!

    • doktorzoom

      Please review the rules. WE DO NOT WISH DEATH ON PEOPLE. You can wish for Donald Trump to die old, alone, and unloved, or to step barefoot on a Lego in the middle of the night. Seriously, this should not be a difficult call, people.

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

  • Royal Ugly Dude

    Jerry Goldsmith doesn’t want him using his music either. The only reason he hasn’t sent a cease and desist letter is that he’s dead.

  • georgiaburning

    Let him fly around in an old 757 with no defensive capabilities.

    • doktorzoom

      You’re pushing the rules there. Please don’t hint you’d just love to see a president shot down, mmmmmkay?

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

      • georgiaburning

        Aye aye, sir

  • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

    NPR interviewed Trump’s ghost twitter guy, Brad Parscale. Most of those tweets during the campaign were his. Let that sink in for a minute.

    Also, if this is an attempt by Airbus to get a contract, that would be clear crony capitalism to me.

  • Krombopulous Pichael

    so this is how this dumb fuck is gonna try to be cute and clever for the next four years? publicly and loudly nitpicking things in the budget like he gives so much of a fuck about costs nad hes trying to “save you money”, while grabbing fistfuls of our money for all his stupid scams

    fuck

    hey i know a way we can all save a lot of money! lets just dissolve the whole government altogether and we’l never pay taxes again! woo hoo!

    • Finn the Human

      Donald Trump, President Kleptocracy.

    • BeachBum

      Ok but lemme get to Costco first. And the bank.

  • Scrofula

    Has anyone pointed out yet that the Trump Jet was built in 1991, making it 25 years old? I don’t get why he’s not into a yooogely bigger, more curvaceous, younger model.

    • zerosumgame0005

      while I do not wish a fiery plane crash on anyone (not even with VOTES!) he does seem to be tempting fate…

    • Finn the Human

      Plus, it’s too heavy what with all the gold and fat ass Trump the plane is kitted out with.

  • Bill Slider

    As a firm believer in the Second Amendment, the not quite yet President Trump is rumored to want to ditch those commercial 747s in favor of the more open carry look of a B52.

  • Royal Ugly Dude

    How about Ed Force One? Bruce Dickinson can fly it. Bruce can be our president, also too.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/23bbab614c5fc3862d317fe6079e6afa44ea774dcbdcbbc6123f71d58e4901e9.jpg

    • zerosumgame0005

      for Trump, it needs to be short and called Special Ed AF-1

      • doktorzoom

        As I say every time this comes up (and I’m asking as a fellow Wonkette reader, setting aside my moderator hat here): As someone whose GF has a son with autism, could we please consign “short bus” jokes to the same trash bin as we have other insults based on disability? Or is “haw haw, lookit the retard” something we should find acceptable because we don’t like Trump?

        • zerosumgame0005

          um, I don;t think of autism in the same way as you do I guess… my apologies then

        • zerosumgame0005

          and no PA intended in that one!

        • zerosumgame0005

          deleted because you wanted it done

    • phoenix00

      Up the irons!

      (and yes that’s an awesome looking plane)

  • Markuserektus
    • zerosumgame0005

      by FatAss

      FIFY!

    • Finn the Human

      Like all good kleptocrats.

    • theCryptofishist

      Sad but true…

    • ltmcdies

      you know Trump you think you’re an Emperor and all but remember what happened to Caligula when he finally pissed off the Praetorian guard that one time too many

    • phoenix00
      • Markuserektus

        Fix It Again Tony! I’ve owned three 124 Spyders, a 128 Sport L and an X-1/9…not much of a proposition.

        • phoenix00

          You, sir, are one brave, courageous man.

  • Hardly Ideal

    I’ve heard it said that any aircraft that the President flies is considered “Air Force One.” Would that include an ultralight?
    I can already hear a blister Danger Zone kazoo cover in the background!

  • Doug Langley

    It’s really the weirdest thing, but more and more “President Kasich” is starting to have a nice ring to it.

    • Markuserektus

      Hell, Joe Exotic even sounds good.

      • Sister the Resister!

        Vermine Supreme or GTFO!

  • Markuserektus
    • eggsacklywright

      The vodka-burner is ready to roll:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7q3j69-SHM

      • Objectifer

        In Soviet Russia, stall warning horns you!

      • proudgrampa

        Holy crap! It seemed like we could have walked faster down the runway!

    • phoenix00

      Loud. Slow. Used more to provoke a response than actual delivery of munitions.

      It’s perfect.

  • OneYieldRegular

    At his core, and even at his surface, Donald Trump is really just an old man constantly yelling at his television, isn’t he.

    • BrendaKay

      Yes, just like my Dad… bless his heart.

    • theCryptofishist

      Clouds.

  • Cogswell – User of the wheel

    He didn’t like the black on it because it’s in competition with his soul.

  • Finn the Human

    But Dick Cheney seez Trump has no need for the press, cuz the Orange Menace has Twitter.

    • Cogswell – User of the wheel

      He stated that at one point that he was not going to give the press corps press credentials.

      I wonder, if this happened would the press finally call him out on his blatant lies?

      Naaaah, I doubt it.

      On another note, I was getting trolled the other day and asked the charming little creature to tell me one truth his royal anus told…

      Naturally, the response was crickets.

    • tehbaddr

      The Orange Menace, that’s what one of my ex’s called her dildo!

  • BeachBum

    OT The Carrier Deal. So Trump paid $7 mill of Taxpayer $$ to save 1,000 jobs. Last year we lost 2,382,000 jobs to other countries. If Trump were to get as good a deal to save that number, it would cost $16,674,000,000. In 4 years about $67 billion.
    I am not a world class economist, but I don’t see a viable business plan here.
    I think Trump should go back to his roots and ask his Mafia friends for negotiating advice.
    IMO the Carrier execs should have got 0 munies, but a horsehead in their bed.

    • Anna Rompage

      Actually it was only 800 jobs that were saved, 1200 are still being shipped to Mexico…

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        So most companies would threaten to move jobs, take money, AND THEN ACTUALLY MOVE JOBS. Right. Worst president, ever. And the electoral college hasn’t even voted yet!

        • Anna Rompage

          Pretty much, I also read somewhere that the Carrier agreement was only good for 4 years…

        • Markuserektus

          Not that tRump is a thing, but Dense swung the tax holiday courtesy of the state of Indiana.

      • BeachBum

        Oh thanks.

      • Cogswell – User of the wheel

        Now down to 720.

        • Truthiness2U

          And of those, 300 weren’t going to be leaving anyway because they’re research jobs.

          Oh and the plant will be automating, so those remaining jobs will be going sooner, than later.

    • Anna Rompage

      “I don’t see a viable business plan here”

      Not to mention his Boeing tweet actually dropped the price of Boeing stock today… A bunch of people’s 401k accounts just took a hit…

      • Doug Langley

        “But Mr Trump, anything the President says can really affect the markets!”

        “Really? Well then, you’d BETTER BE NICE TO ME!!!”

    • Jennifer R

      It’s actually a lot less than a thousand. That plan will now house 600ish jobs, out of the 3000 it had. about 400 of them had already been deferred from moving this year.

    • Markuserektus

      Also, Carrier had supposedly built a new facility in Mexico and the locals were waiting to staff it.

    • Lambsendbeds

      Poor horse…how about a replica of Kellyanne Conway’s head in their beds? Much scarier…

      • BigHorn

        Potayto potahto.

  • IOnlyLikeCats

    I really like Fusion. CNN did this really weird article trying to normalize white supremacists and their response was https://twitter.com/Fusion/status/805460086063644673

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      Just when I think CNN can’t get any worse. JFC on a popsicle. They’re worse than awful.

  • georgiaburning

    So Boeing is getting the same treatment as construction contractors on his properties? Surprise, surprise.

    • phoenix00

      Except Boeing is going to fight. Hard.

  • Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie

    How much more delusional can these people get? I think we’re all going to find out.

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/rick-joyner-if-you-look-at-the-disciples-that-jesus-chose-they-were-all-donald-trump/

    • Kiri the Resistant Unicorn

      And there’s little Jim Bakker, out of prison and washed free of sin by the blood of the lamb, praise Jesus, buy all my FEMA-surplus dehydrated potato soup!

      “God spoke that to me this morning, today. A civil war between good and evil. The Revelation days are here, praise God!”

      Remember that perp-walk, Jimmy boy? Good times.

      http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/U.S./876/493/jim_bakker_ap.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

      • Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie

        Just imagine how fuckin’ sweet it would be to see that happening to Donnie.

      • Sister the Resister!

        Gawd, you’ve now somehow lodged the visage of Tammy Faye in my mind, complete with her armored eyelashes
        https://img.discogs.com/nFnUGlNw52_o9WwPhMceAcKqhwM=/fit-in/300×300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/A-915856-1352617573-7080.jpeg.jpg

      • Doug Langley

        His timing couldn’t be better. I hear Trump’s looking for a Secretary of State.

      • tehbaddr

        “FEMA-surplus dehydrated potato soup!”

        You can’t fool me! That’s just standard dried spuds with a recipe on the box that calls for more water!

    • mickster99

      Sadly there are no limits with regards to the number of delusions a tRumperite can have. One delusion begets at least 5 more delusions which begit 5 more delusions and so on and so forth. I think that’s called an exponential curve is it not. It’s definitely non-linear.

  • theCryptofishist

    I thought it was, “Keep watching the skis.”

  • Ezio Auditore

    I would compare Donald to Auric Goldfinger, but he is way to classy and that would probably be libelz.

    • phoenix00

      Goldfinger ACTUALLY had Pussy Galore!

  • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

    No wonder the price went up from Boeing’s original quote.

    Not only do they have to harden the outside from EMP blasts, but the inside now has to be hardened from bullshit blasts.

    • mickster99

      Quite hilariously funny. Thanks Mr. Gherkins.

  • btwbfdimho

    Also, he was told he can’t hang those truknutz from the tail of Air Force One. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2d3d51d2240ae93eaff4f577ce42eabd041b3d9d55334eaf93ece308f498a56a.png

    • mickster99

      Thanks. That’s quite hysterically funny. I chuckled involuntarily. And am still chortling my little heart out. Way to go, dimho! And FYI: I only wear that bag over my head when I have the hiccups.

  • MynameisBlarney

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028336272

    So…trump caught lyin’ again.

    • TakingAmes

      In other news, sky is blue!

      • MynameisBlarney

        And water is wet. Now, here’s Bob with sportsball.

  • Kooolest G

    hey donnie, there’s a lou sarah on the phone for you, she says she wants HER gimmick back https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/779e9efad09a3ab58ae0e0d3e1f3c14ee1aa4199bb7f7180ab40d7588c6eb350.png

    one of her first acts as governor was to sell the jet that the previous governor used, she didn’t actually sell it on eBay, but she did sell it and lost about a million on the deal

    • Amalga

      I think it was leased actually.

  • Paperless Tiger

    Goodbye republic, hello corporate feudalism. Let’s all sit around and watch the Bankrupter in Chief monkey around with our economy till he breaks it.

    • ohpaleasegivemeabreak

      He plans to wait until after Lyin has privatized Medicare and Social Security, murdered the ACA and stolen the USPS’s many billions put back for USPS employee’s retirement funds to be fully funded for employees whose grandparents have not yet been born to this earth.

      THEN it is time for them to make the economy go poof and crash the stock market so the wall street goons can steal it all for themselves.

  • Cogswell – User of the wheel

    Solid Gold, my ass. Fool’s gold is more likely.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Gold plate, on whatever metal is cheapest. Costs about a buck per square foot.

  • 6’2″ 260lb Trump shooting off his big, fat, mouth without knowing the true and correct facts? Oh.

  • He wants to fly around in a plane that doesn’t have the built-in defense mechanisms AF1 has.
    Let him.

    • doktorzoom

      Please review the rules. Really, we don’t wish death on people. Is bad thing.

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

      • Mea Culpa, Dok. Got carried away, likes.

        • mickster99

          As penance you must say 200 Hail Dok Zooms and promise to never visit InfoWars.com. Or very bad things will happen. As may happen to me as well. And I haven’t advocated the death of anyone.

          • Sister the Resister!

            *shudder* got stuck in heavy traffic this morning behind a nasty fume spewing car with a huge infowars dot com bumpersticker plastered over the back window…. a very long 30 minutes, I might note

          • Fair enough. Hail Dok Zoom, Father of Kid Zoom, blessed be thy posts…

      • miss_grundy

        Unfortunately, Dok, we can’t help it if the Orange Menace doesn’t want to realize that he is putting himself in danger. I guess he never saw “Air Force One” with Harrison Ford.

      • mickster99

        Dok, that seems a bit of a stretch to me. But that’s just me. A loyal wonketter from way back. But it’s your website, your rules.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        Hey, it’s Trump’s idea. At least it’s not just poor people, and our military, whose lives he’s going to put at risk!

  • Jan Ness

    Good way to keep the jerbs in the US! Make sure Boeing goes bankrupt!

  • miss_grundy

    He isn’t being noble. He just wants to continue using his own jet with its gold-appointed toilet fixtures and he wants to pass the expense with a mark-up on to American taxpayers. He has already lost 1300 jobs to Mexico and is making Indiana pay Carrier $7 M in tax incentives. I wonder how many people Boeing will lay-off thanks to this clown?

    • Dazza

      Bingo.

    • roberteye

      OR create a giveaway to Jefferson Beauregard and Alabammy

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Two ordinary 747s won’t matter that much. (It’s the gub’mint that spends a billion on each of ’em, after they’re bought – not that Donnie knows shit about it.)

  • DahBoner

    Pfft. Obama cancelled the new POTUS helicopter back in 09. Guess what? It’s baaaack.

    You can’t stop the Penta-gone.
    https://media1.giphy.com/media/3o6Ztc8txsOeo471Ha/200_d.gif#16

  • Shelli Kae

    My guess is Trump wants to use other people’s money (taxpayer’s) to spiffy up his own jet. I can’t see this sorry excuse for a human flying in anything without his name plastered all over it.

  • Anna Rompage

    Tell you what Donnie, how about you take your personal plane and fly it through a plume of nuclear fallout, and then have the military try to shoot your plane out of the sky with the newest gen of SAMs, and see if you survive…

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      The fireball would be yoooge. Classy. The best fireball, believe me.

  • SayItWithOtters

    Best part: “The plane is totally out of control. I think it’s ridiculous. I think Boeing is doing a little bit of a number. We want Boeing to make a lot of money but not that much money,” [Trump] told reporters.

    Ponder a Democratic president musing that a major American company is making too much money.

    • Georgie Whit

      Yesterday he was willing to go to war with China to protect US jobs, and then today he does this.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        And tomorrow . . . who the fuck knows? Not even Trump knows.

    • Walter Wellstone

      Socialism!!1!!1!1!!1!!1!!!!!1!!1!!!

    • phoenix00

      “Obama should’ve stopped Haliburton from profiting too much off the Iraq War!”

  • But Mr Luntz, what if the plane is in tip-top shape but the President is a mess?

  • Smibo

    So, to recap:

    Day 1: Trump tweets “Cancel Order!”

    Day 2: Boeing stock goes down. Trump tweets that the drop is because (unrelated bullshit thing), and that he’s buying stock in Boeing.

    Then of course we’ll all be shocked, shocked! when on

    Day 3: Trump announces that he’s renegotiated the contract with Boeing, got them down to $1.65b for both planes, saving taxpayers $2.35b before he’s even taken office. Boeing stock climbs again.

    This is going to be a fun four years! And by “fun”, I mean depressingly rotten.

    • Walter Wellstone

      I would bet that’s an impeachable offense. It’s the ultimate shorting of a stock from the ultimate position of power. Such aggression can’t stand, man.

    • I Am Helpy

      He actually had stock in Boeing which he sold before this.

    • phoenix00

      That is called “insider trading” and “securities fraud”

      Is it impeachable? PLEASE WITH A JUMBO JET ON TOP?

  • Word now is his tweet went out 22 minutes after the Chicago Tribune published a story in which the Boeing CEO criticized his trade plans.

    • phoenix00

      And from a company in states that voted Democratic! The insolence!

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    Bit of fact-checking from the NYT reveals where the money goes:
    “Air Force officials said they were proposing to spend $2.7 billion over the next five years to research, develop and test communications
    technologies and other advanced systems. The Air Force would then buy two 747-8 aircraft, which normally cost airlines $350 million to $400 million apiece [normal planes, normal price], and refit them to include all the new systems and handle extra weight.”

    And yes, Trump got his panties in a wad because a Boeing executive had criticized his plans to fuck up trade with China. (Because China can – and would – buy Airbus planes instead of Boeing’s.)

  • TheWorldCitizen

    Wow I don’t know what to say about half these ad hominem attacks. Tell you what. Let’s give Trump a Nobel peace prize and see if he can manage to start less conflicts than started under Obamas watch.

    • HazooToo

      I don’t know if you’re POEing, or you really think Trump deserves anything more than a swift boot out of the White House.

      • TheWorldCitizen

        What im saying is that you judge a president by his actions in the White House not before. After 8 years of action do you think the Nobel committee would give Obama the peace prize?

        • Pissed de Résistance

          After four years of Trump, they are likely to give Obama another one.

        • HazooToo

          I don’t really care if they do or not, honestly, I think he’s done a good job. Currently, I’m judging Trump on what he’s doing with his transition team, his cabinet picks, AND everything he said and did during the campaign, as well as the way he’s alienating other countries seemingly without even trying. Judging the shit out of him.

      • TheWorldCitizen

        I guess if you don’t toe the line on this site they erase your comments. Nice!

        • Pissed de Résistance

          Wrong again.

        • HazooToo

          I’m not sure that is universally true. If I had a bonfire I needed lit, I would give most people a chance, but not a toddler or a crazy person with a flamethrower.

    • phoenix00

      > give Trump a Nobel peace prize

      https://i.imgflip.com/lecae.jpg

    • Dazza

      Dude. You upvoted yourself? Tacky.

    • Pissed de Résistance

      Hi, are you a troll? Just in case, go fuck yourself.

      • TheWorldCitizen

        Is it so difficult to hear an opinion different than your own that you need to suppress it?

        • Pissed de Résistance

          No suppression. Speak away.

          And please accept my heartfelt wish for you to stick your ill informed sense of conflict initiation up your ass. Along with your dick.

          • TheWorldCitizen

            Your ability to converse normally with someone who has an opinion a bit different than yours is limited to name calling like a 3yo. I GUESS you’re not really interested in anything except hearing yourself speak. So buy a parrot and enjoy the next 4 years.

          • Pissed de Résistance

            You’re the one who is likely to lose his shit, so way to vote there, genius. There goes your trailer home, er, wheeled accommodation. Your part of society could sink in the ocean for all I care. I’m comfortably retired and live in Europe. In fact, if I still didn’t have a million four invested in the States, I wouldn’t give two shits.

          • At the crossroads, stay strong

            I’m a bit curious. Of what world are you a citizen?

          • Slavakitty

            He’s a drunkard. That makes him a citizen of the world, according to Captain Renault.

        • At the crossroads, stay strong

          There are two types of opinions: informed ones and knee-jerk nonsense ones. The latter, into which you fall, are worth less than the air it takes to say them or the time it takes to type them. Had you had something interesting and worthwhile to say, we would have been happy to chat with you. Sadly, you started right off with a steaming little pile of right wing bullshit defaming Obama, so don’t be disappointed that you’re treated as a dimwitted troll on this very liberal website. Also, in true troll style, you had a punctuation miscue in your original post.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      Oh, cupcake, a quick stroll through your commenting history shows you to be altogether too spiteful about President Obama to be taken seriously with regard to any comment (which is not allowed) you care to make here. Burbling that Drumpf should be given the chance you would not give Obama isn’t super-convincing.

  • bluicebank

    The revamped pair of 747-8s wouldn’t be built or available until 2024, so Trump will either have to fly on the current up-armored Air Force One (Boeing 747-200Bs), or his crappy Boeing 757 (lacks ability to withstand nasty EMP waves from nuke war Trump starts, has zero anti-jamming tech, insecure comm, and is notoriously thin-skinned).

    So I’m not seeing a downside to Trump flying on his 757.

  • phoenix00

    Related but O/T: any plane geeks in the house? Will plane geek with anyone ALL NIGHT

    (Pic also related, only b/c 747-8, and only b/c miiiine)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9f75d6ed3d3f80b71d3465ebd85d6d41edf2fb3302d0178f40f0ed9a0e95e101.jpg

  • Pissed de Résistance

    Nice photo, with Jesus Springs (and Pike’s Peak), Colorado in the background.

  • Trump will run wild and screw as many people over as he can until he starts ripping off rich people. That’s when the impeachment will start.

  • OMG Gerald McBoingBoing? I am old enough to remember that. I think he had a dog named Manfred. Christ I’m really a old.

  • ResistanceFictionista blondeiq

    Maybe he’s right. Maybe we should stop fussing so much about all those silly security features. So wasteful. It’s not like he’s going to listen to any security briefings while he’s up there. Money would be better spent on an onboard runway (for the models) and special lighting for the Mile High Pageant (TM)

  • r jones

    Was fun listening to the Mark Levin show (!) yesterday.

    He couldn’t get his head around why Trump was attacking a domestic manufacturer like Boeing, and neither could his callers. Couldn’t understand why such criticism was being made via random tweets. I think they’re FINALLY beginning to realise what an unmitigated schmuck they’ve given the car keys to.

    The Trump buyers’ remorse is going to be big. HOOOGE. Messy.

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