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I have not been able to watch it yet (self care!), but Tomi Lahren — darling of the alt-right — has released a new video declaring that no one can say that Trump voters are “racists, the Islamophobes, the sexists, the homophobes, the bigots, the deplorable” etc. anymore, because they are WINNERS. So we have to call them WINNERS.

That is not, actually, how things work. For probably most of this country’s history the “winners” have been racists, sexists and homophobes. Being “winners” did not absolve them of that then, and it doesn’t absolve them of that now. If they hadn’t ever been “winners,” we would never have had to fight them in the first place. Duh.

And it occurred to me that one of the things that Trump supporters have said they want most fervently, most desperately, is something they are absolutely not going to get so long as we refuse to give it to them. He promised them something that he will never be able to deliver on without our consent — and that is the ability to say and do racist, homophobic, bigoted, sexist, deplorable things without fear of being judged.

Donald Trump being elected doesn’t mean Tomi Lahren isn’t an asshole. It doesn’t mean we have to accept anything he or his supporters dole out, simply because they “won.” It doesn’t mean we stop standing up for marginalized people. It doesn’t mean you can go spray paint a swastika on someone’s house, that you can attack Muslim women in hijabs, that you can freely scream homophobic or racial slurs out of your car and expect to have people call you America’s Sweetheart. We will come for you.

The uptick in these sorts of activities in the past few days is heartbreaking and frightening, but unfortunately not surprising. Of course they’re going to give it a go. That doesn’t mean we let them. Yes, Donald Trump has “empowered” these people — but I think they’re in for a rude awakening when they discover that who the president is doesn’t really count for much in their daily lives where they have to interact with people who are not Donald Trump.

Emma Goldman once said “If voting changed anything, it would be illegal.” And that phrase — though I’m not sure how much I agree with it — is giving me some comfort right now. Because now we need to look to things we can do outside of filling out a ballot — for the next two years, at least — to keep changing the world in a good way, and to not allow them to change it in a bad way. To ensure safety for women and POC and LGBTQ citizens in our own communities, to take our fight for fair wages out of the halls of government and back to union halls, to get bad police officers off of our streets, to boycott and strike, to volunteer and donate and keep speaking up.

I keep looking at this list of people who died during the labor movement. I keep thinking of women who fought for and won the vote when men had all the power in government, black people who fought for civil rights and won when white people had all the power in government, LBBTQ people who won when straight people had all the power in government, and I think we will continue to fight and win with these assholes having all the power in government. We need to stop noting that we or other people “lived” through these times, because a lot of people didn’t — but we should remember that people fought through them and were still able to make progress without having anyone in power backing them. We can still fight — and, sometimes, we can still win.

I’m a white lady. My people are responsible for Donald Trump being elected. That means I need to fight 10 times as hard so that people who are being even more legitimately hurt by this administration than I am don’t have to. I need to make this up to them. We all do. And as soon as I’m done sobbing in bed and watching Harry Potter movies for a few days and drowning my sorrows in half-eaten blueberry muffins and box wine, and thinking of all the ways a Trump presidency is going to screw the everloving fuck out of the people who voted for him, that is what I will do.

We don’t need the government to change things, and we never have. We don’t need the president to agree with us in order to call a bigot a bigot. Every battle fought in the interest of equality and fairness has been fought without the approval or interest of the government and those in charge. Sure, it’s easier with that seal of approval — and yes, a lot of the hurt and pain we are feeling right now is made so much worse because we started to think we were close to not having to fight quite as hard — but they need that more than we do. They need societal approval more than we do, because they are weak.

Take this into consideration — the absolute worst thing conservatives have ever had to go through, as a movement, was the last eight years of Barack Obama being president. Behold, how rattled they were after merely a few years of having to deal with the abject trauma of sometimes being told they were racist or sexist on Facebook! How it hurt them to have to see people say “Black Lives Matter!” How it broke their little hearts to see women as Ghostbusters! The poor dears! They could barely stand it.

All of this, to them, was so positively unbearable that they completely fell the fuck apart. Their very first test of being slightly uncomfortable, and they decided to burn it all down. They went in for the Alex Jones shit, they wore tricorner hats and cried about how they wanted their country back. Electing Trump was not a show of their collective strength but of their collective weakness in the face of adversity. We don’t fall apart, they do.

They need societal and governmental validation of their belief systems in a way we never have, and that is what makes us strong enough to still take them down without the government having our backs. They lost their minds, we’re not going to do the same. We’re going to keep working, keep being funny — because it’s what keeps us sane enough to do the work that needs to get done, keep taking care of each other as needed, and we’re going to take these people on.

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  • Señor Skwerl!

    PREACH!

  • CogitoErgoBibo

    Damn straight we’re going to stand up for the vulnerable members of society, no matter what this asshole says or does. But…we did remember to start that bail money fund, right?

    • Sean McLaren

      yeah, this seems like a pretty good time to start donating to free healthcare organizations and legal advocacy groups, or volunteering if you have the time or skills

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        I’d like to recommend: Planned Parenthood, the ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center as a start. Those were my “feel good by setting up some stupid affordable monthly contributions instead of going to Starbucks” funds from yesterday. Even $5 a month makes a difference. Especially if we all do it (although obvious pass for those among us with student loans, relying on ACA, etc.).

        • Thiazin Red

          You can even be super lazy about it and just set up an Amazon Smile account that gives part of the money to charity.

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            Brilliant! I know there are some “save the environment” options on there for certain. We’re gonna need that.

          • Thiazin Red

            I do regular donations too, but if I’m going to buy a book and camera charger, why not have a small part of that go to Planned Parenthood?

    • OneYieldRegular

      We may well need bail money. Trump buddy Sheriff David Clarke, who has been discussed as possible head of Homeland Security, is already calling for the “quelling” of protests by those who took to the nation’s streets last night.

      The “radical anarchists” Clarke described as making up such protests included, in my immediate vicinity at the protest I attended in San Francisco last night, an elderly woman with a cane, a group of motivated high school students, and a bunch of parents along with their kids.

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        They sounds scary. I’ll bet they did controversial things like chanting or maybe singing protest songs. Breathing air and taking up space. They really should know better.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        Someone should tell Sheriff Davy that there are shorter descriptions that apply to those people, like Americans.

  • Apropos of nothing, but I find it funny to hear from people who’ve been stockpiling weapons to protect their freedums from the Federal gubmint defending building a giant Berlin-style wall on the Mexican border.

    And yes, I’m not going to let the little shit weasels bully people, if I can help it.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      My waking chuckle this morning was the ironical contrast between “Mr. Gorbachev, take down this wall!” and “I’ll build a beautiful, bigly, glorious wall.” GOP isn’t only not the party of Lincoln, it’s not even the party of fucking Reagan…

      • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

        American walls make America great – Trump Supporters

      • Celtic_Gnome

        As Steve Schwartz, John McCain’s campaign manager said election night on MSNBC, “The party of Reagan is dead.”

  • Sean McLaren

    it’s the grim humor that’s gonna get me through this
    https://twitter.com/GreatDismal/status/796819850773413888

    • Nounverb911

      Is Gibson blaming Trump for Kristollnacht (the election was 11-8)?

      • Once&futureFred

        they called it on the 9th

        • stankbait

          I’ll steal the headline from the ONION on 9/12. HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

          • Alex Grey

            But what about the election on 11/28?

    • Alex Grey

      Let me provide a little irony, for the benefit of the Wonketariat… I took this picture a few months ago in SE Portland, I hope the contradiction offers some solace.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e874840d546cc97237d242caeff972d82ad3c333c1c456b744bc9a93a8661a7c.jpg

      • Sean McLaren

        The people that put up the billboard sure know their demo

        • Alex Grey

          I nearly fell over from laughing when I saw that…

      • Beanz&Berryz

        We Portlanders know, but I think you gotta make more clear what TabooVideo is … not that I’ve ever been there …

  • (((fka_donnie_d)))

    Robyn

    You are well in your way to demonstrating you are the smartest person here.

    It is absolutely fucking time to “look to things we can do outside of filling out a ballot”. It has been time for decades. I would like to take this opportunity to call for suggestions. I’ll start with 2;

    -Rebuild ACORN

    – Picket NRA headquarters 24/7. Ask every single person entering and leaving why it’s a gun-free zone. Videotape the results.

    • Lascauxcaveman

      Got that right. Filling in a ballot is merely the easiest and most direct way to fight the racist, sexist motherfuckers. We don’t get another chance to do it for two years; meantime, there’s still plenty to do.

      And self-care. We should all be mindful of this. Took a nice long bike ride today, did me wonders of good.

      • (((fka_donnie_d)))

        No snark, you _need_ to be in decent shape now, and take some self-defense classes while you’re at it. Having a gun pointed at your head is not as highly statistically correlated with getting shot as you might think.

      • (((fka_donnie_d)))

        And, there’s always plenty to do. Good news and bad news at the same time.

  • Oblios_Cap

    Preach it sister. I’ll not stop calling an asshole an asshole whenever I see someone acting like one.

  • cousin itt

    If Drumpf builds a wall, how will we get out of TumpLand?

    • Oblios_Cap

      Go north, young man.

  • Crystalclear12

    OT but keep thinking the Brits must be pleased because they are no longer the stupidest voters anymore.
    Sigh

  • Infrequentcontributor

    Amen

  • OneYieldRegular

    A muslim co-worker, one of the sweetest people I know, just came into my office to tell me that on election night her mother, a U.S. citizen for the past forty years, asked her tearfully if Trump’s election meant they were going to be deported.

    It’s so obvious that it really shouldn’t need saying, but still, I’m going to repeat it constantly until this nightmare ends: the election of Donald Trump does not take away your ability, your right or your obligation to speak your values, to call out injustice, to dissent like your life depended on it. Because it just might.

  • theblackdog

    I just answered a signal boost from a trans woman looking for legal resources to get her gender markers changed in our state (MD) by giving her the name of our LGBTQ advocacy organization that helps with this kind of work. When she thanked me for the assist, I just wanted to cry after seeing her thanks and I have no fucking clue why now when I have passed this kind of info along before.

    • NastyBosGrl

      Because you’re afraid for her, the same way I teared up in the elevator today just riding with a woman with an accent and her daughter. I live in a building full of immigrants and I’m terrified for their safety.

      • theblackdog

        Thank you! That was the missing piece.

        • NastyBosGrl

          Also too, thank you for performing such a wonderful service. I’m out of work right now and I’m going to start volunteering for organizations that ensure people’s rights.

          • theblackdog

            I wish I could do more right now, but I’ll make sure to throw a donation to the org

    • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

      Good on ya!

  • Nounverb911

    I fully intend to show just as much respect for Drumpf as they have shown for Obama for past eight years…

    • TundraGrifter

      That’s a losing proposition. Never become the person you don’t respect. And we must continue to respect the office of President because if we don’t, when Progressives take it back it just might not be worth anything.

      • Lark_in_the_AM

        The office, I respect. The person about to take it? Not at all. But – and this is what Rebecca alluded to earlier in much more blunt terms: flattery might make the best treachery.

        • neminem

          Plus, we *want* Trump in office at this point. Best possible scenario is 4 years of Trump continuously asking for absurd things and being shot down because they’re absurd. *Worst* possible scenario is… ok, well, worst possible scenario is he nukes Japan cause they looked at him funny. Worst actually likely scenario is he says “screw it, I’m going golfing for the next 4 years” and hands the reins to his VP. That is *terrifying*. I mean, more-extra terrifying.

          • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

            I’m kind of hoping he goes golfing…Pence is an ass, but he’s not crazy.

          • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

            I agree, the worst possible, actually likely scenario is an attempt at Theocracy by Pence and his loony cronies through court appointments.

          • Lark_in_the_AM

            Oh he’ll be able to do plenty of terrifying stuff by simply being a rubber stamp for a Republican congress that has been waiting for this chance for quite a while. Oil and gas drilling the national parks? Check! Gutting the ACA and replacing it with nada? Check! Privatizing Medicare and Social Security? Check! Packing the SCOTUS with judges who will make us long for Scalia? Check! National “religious freedom” act? Check! Complete repeal of the Voting Rights Act? Check! Tank the economy by redistributing tax revenue to the 1%? Check! Once upon a time, there were sane Republicans in the congress to keep the loonies from trashing the place. Now they are all loonies. I don’t meant to sound alarmist, only to point out that we need to be on their shit from day one, and to tell our Democratic senators and congresspeople that they need to push back HARD.

        • TundraGrifter

          “The Art of War” pretty much comes down to “Don’t let them see you coming.” Don’t do the obvious. Sow confusion and doubt by being unpredictable. Isn’t that what Trump himself talked about?

      • Jennifer R

        Totally not how respect works. Respecting an institution or an office is pointless because they are at best ephemeral concepts. The people in them are the object of any earned respect.

        • TundraGrifter

          The office of President of the United States certainly will be ephemeral if it isn’t respected.

          That’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.

          Why did President Truman file Gen. MacArthur?

  • tesseraction

    Yep. This election has just reaffirmed that white women (like myself) have sooo much work to make up for, for women of color, but especially black women. Because we clearly have a great amount of bullshit we need to work through, instead of it dumping it on them.

  • Tallmutha

    Yeah well, before the election that black model lady said that the “most important” thing about Trump winning would be that all the haters who had criticized him would have to “bow down” to him. I think she’s going to find out that that’s not how it works either.

    • Mr. Blobfish

      She will be appointed Revenge Czar.

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        And keeper of The List.

      • willi0000000

        nope! . . . you let one black do it and they’ll all want to do it.

    • sw19headlessvoteperson

      Bow down, so they could tie his shoelaces together in classic screwball comedy fashion, maybe.

      *with votes.

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      Kneel before Tiny Nob.

    • Jamoche

      Yeah, well, I’m with the old German guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dapip0EHYMI

    • OneYieldRegular

      Oh, “bow down”! I thought she said “squat down.” Well this is embarrassing.

    • mirele

      I’m a Christian and I sure as heck ain’t bowing down to Cheeto Jesus.

  • Oblios_Cap

    And with this comment, dear readers, the drinking lamp is lit. Off to do some drinking, smoking, and watch the Sat & Sun BPL games on MSNBC and generally have a restful weekend.

  • Rick Hill

    Awesomeness. On the safe side, though, could you set up a safe house for yourself, a bug out kit. Maybe a safeword for us so you let us know you’re under duress and need the marines, or maybe Hairstrike Alpha.
    For what it’s worth, already have stood against this kind of crap for a long while now. Maybe it would be most effective to now let our remaining Democratic representatives know they should not just go quietly into this fight. The calls for unity are not exactly what we need to hear from the people who spent 13 years beating on us and then put up a candidate who is destroying the fabric of our society.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    I have not been able to watch it yet (self care!), but Tomi Lahren

    Oh no–I am already doing too much day-drinking and freaking my friends the fuck out to go there TYVM…

  • TundraGrifter

    Tomi?

    Wasn’t Tomi Tomy Tome a band, back in the day?

    • boyblue123

      Toni Tony Tone? lol

    • sw19headlessvoteperson

      Tomi Anus.

  • harryr

    Excellent piece.And just keep remembering that whatever they may claim they are not the majority. Hillary won the popular vote.

    • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

      Yes! And by and even bigger margin if you take out the voter fraud and vote flipping.

    • Krokamo

      No one is the majority.

  • Snicker Haha

    Love you, Robyn. Are you currently dating anyone? Live near LA?

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      I think she’s in Chi-Town, though if she does visit the City of Angels we need to throw her a major party!

      • Snicker Haha

        Would love that! Tell her she’ll get a kick out of me and I will make her laugh. I have this cute trick where I can pop out my dentures.

        • Nounverb911

          Grandpa! Is that you?

          • Snicker Haha

            Timmy! I haven’t seen you in decades. My how you’ve grown. What happened to that dog you had? What was her name? Lassie?

    • Robyn Pennacchia

      I am, indeed, in Chicago, and I do have a fella. Alas!

      • Snicker Haha

        Pashaw, you say! Well, he’s a lucky fella. But if you’re ever looking for a good time in LA and you need a sugar daddy, let me know. We’ll take a spin around the city in my wheelchair. It’s got electric power. Nothing cheap about it. But if you’d rather drive around a car, I have a Mustang Shelby I keep in the garage just for looking sporty. Will let you drive cuz I don’t have good reflexes any more. Good luck to ya and thanks for all the wonking you put up here.

  • Sean McLaren

    Triumph the Insult Comic Dog on Colbert:

    “People are blaming the election on voters being stupid, which I think is very unfair to the racists”

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    one of the things that Trump supporters have said they want most fervently, most desperately, is something they are absolutely not going to get so long as we refuse to give it to them. He promised them something that he will never be able to deliver on without our consent — and that is the ability to say and do racist, homophobic, bigoted, sexist, deplorable things without fear of being judged.

    And this would be why I willingly kick a few bucks Wonkette’s way. Fucking fight on!

    • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

      Glad to see you back in fighting condition Cally. How ya doin?

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson

        Short term: not well. Still day-drinking (but taking there are no DUI issues associated with that so relax)

        Long term: I have two dogs to take care of so suicide is not a luxury. My local Hilary group is setting up a resistance group so I will life to fight another day I guess. Hope you are stronger than I am, honey!

        • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

          Please dispense with that suicide stuff. Sometimes we can’t find the strength to carry ourselves forward, but we draw strength to do so from others. The dogs need you, we need you, your local Hillary group needs, and the millions of people who voted for a safer, cleaner, brighter future need you.

          • Resistance Fighter Callyson

            Not actually killing myself thanks to aforementioned dogs, but thanks for checking In!

        • Treg Brown

          You. Are. Awesome. You sound better and I’m glad. We need people like you to help us through this, and to be a part of our fight. You’re a natural born leader.

          I’ve had a non stop headache since Tuesday night that won’t be fought with pain reliever or day drinking. And God knows I’ve tried.

  • (((fka_donnie_d)))

    And, in case there’s any confusion, all anybody needs to do is search youtube for “Tea Party Racist” to find plenty of upstanding citizens with “Yep, I’m a racist” t-shirts and signs. They never did get that cleard up, whether they were out-and-proud racists or whether liberals calling them racists hurt their feefees and liberals were the real racists.

    • OneYieldRegular

      I’m willing to forgive such people – we live in a forgiving society – but I will never, ever forget them.

  • clubseal

    Fuck this idea of needing to apologize for other white people voting for Trump.
    It’s not right to ask Muslims to apologize when someone claiming to be Muslim commits an act of terrorism, it’s not right to ask the black community to apologize when a black person commits a crime, and, if you don’t get the point – it’s never ok to require all people of a certain demographic to apologize for others’ actions, just because they look alike.
    Jesus.

    • Lascauxcaveman

      No, you’re right. But it doesn’t hurt to let the potential victims of The Trump Reich know that you’re not one of the fascists.

      At my hotel yesterday, I checked in young Hispanic couple who stay with us a couple times per year. They don’t really know me and I don’t really know them. I’m a pasty white middle aged guy in slacks and a polo. Maybe they’re wondering if I’m a Trumpanzee. They were clearly distraught as I showed them their room. Under the same black cloud as I. I handed them their key and said “Hang in there; we’ll get through this thing.”

      Big smiles, all around. It helped us all to connect, just a little bit.

      • clubseal

        I’m definitely not saying “don’t treat people of all kinds with respect.”
        In fact, that’s always been my philosophy. In fact, there’s so much ugliness in the world that people like you and I can do a lot of good by following our instincts when it comes to treating other people – no matter their race, color, beliefs, etc. – well.

  • Great. Yeah you won. Sure, Hillary Clinton got more actual votes than your guy. Oh, and nearly have the eligible voters in this country did not vote at all. So you’re “winners” of 25.5% of the people. Woo. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/153d0b66192ff78c2ffbf2dd4b91de0d22712de0bcdaa8b6a339ca89defffbd6.png

    • sw19headlessvoteperson

      Democracy in action.

      • georgiaburning

        Democracy inaction

      • Cool_North

        “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” And Churchill was most likely referring to the average European voter. What would have he thought of the average American voter, fresh out of the bible belt?

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          Because I’m crying while I’m reading these comments, I can’t see very well, so I read that as “bile belt,” and it worked for me.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      Please see my post above about starting a mail in campaign called “No Mandate.” I want Trump and Congress to know that they do not have a mandate, and the majority of us do NOT want him as our president, and do NOT want more tax cuts on the rich, do NOT want to see Roe v. Wade overturned, or legal gay marriage overturned.

  • Lark_in_the_AM

    Amen, Robyn. Think and act locally and fucking fight those bastards to prevent them from destroying what is left of civility. I am still, perhaps naively, not convinced that the majority of the people who voted for the cheeto are racist shitheads, just dupes. I think most people are decent enough to be kind to others, and insist that others be kind, too.

  • Red Bird

    I like the cut of your jib Robyn. Keep it up.

  • Msgr_Moment

    OT, but I’m catching up on MSNBC live stream right now.
    More intelligent: Hugh Hewitt is the Jar-Jar Binks? Discuss.

  • Thiazin Red

    I’m so sick of the attitude, which seems depressingly common, that pointing out racism/sexism/homophobia is the REAL problem, and if we just pretended that they didn’t exist everything would be fine.

    Oh, everyone would be fine with women/other races/LGBT people if they weren’t bringing up issues and hurting poor white men’s feelings.

  • EmmaChuur

    It’s true. The Great White Butthurts have been writhing in butthurted resentful agony for these past 8 years because they can’t …errrmm… “call a spade a spade”, if you will. Because That PC Bowlshit. Now that the fatass presumptive is going to Make The White House White Again, they (reckon) they can get back to saying “The N Word” without the “T” & “Word” as is their GodGibbon Right.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      I’m watching white high school kids chant “Build that wall” at minority students. Yes, this is all going to work out so well!!!!

  • DainBramage

    Tomi Lahren must think that Hitler couldn’t be called a racist and anti-semite (among other things) during the 30s and early 40s as he was such a big “winner” at the time.

  • Nounverb911

    OT
    In ‘How do we explain this mess to our kids’ news, Aaron Sorkin writes a poignant letter to his daughter.

    https://twitter.com/latimes/status/796821017641570304

  • Edita Espinosa (Edith Prickly)

    I wonder what Tomi Lahren is going to say the first time one of her alt-right fans grabs her by the pussy, because #WINNERS.

    • Anna Rompage

      “Get off me and who do you think you are? Donald Trump?”

  • SuspectedDemocrat

    Now be fair. Didn’t they call us winners in 2008?

  • Constant Gardener

    Trump got basically the same number of votes McCain got. Ten million Obama voters didn’t turn out despite his legacy being on the ballot. And 1.2M special snowflakes who did, voted for totally unqualified grifter, Jill Stein. Our team let Clinton down and we let Obama down too. So now, people of good faith, shoulders to the wheel. For the next four years, it’s all us.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      Please read my comment above about the mail in campaign I want to start called “NO mandate!”

  • Annie Towne

    We’re all legitimately hurt by this turn of events, even the ones who voted for him.

    • neminem

      Unless you’re a rich white straight guy, possibly. I’m white, straight, and male, but not rich, so even I don’t get much out of it except a feeling of “probably won’t be deported or jailed for the crime of not being a straight white guy.” Yay(?)

      • I’m in your boat, too. And, like you, I can’t sit in the boat and ignore the people being eaten by the sharks.

        • georgiaburning

          What happens when the folks in the Panorama Deck run out of brown people but still want to see the shark show? Yup, it’s us

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      The idiots have their new idiot king, and they have no clue his tax cuts for billionaires will be paid for with cuts to Social Security and Medicare. Yay! fucktards you “won!!!!!” Good for you you stupid morons.

  • Nounverb911

    Speaking of bigly butthurt people, Sheriff Clarke is on a tear about the protests….

    https://twitter.com/SheriffClarke/status/796574545243148288

    • Sean McLaren

      “legitimate reason” to protest is a phrase I expect to be hearing in legal briefs from the Trump administration soon, and frequently.

      That is literally fascist rhetoric, and from a law enforcement officer

      • SuspectedDemocrat

        From a literally fascist law enforcement officer.

        • Sean McLaren

          and if recent history is any indication, far from the only one

    • Kooolest G

      can’t wait till he’s the one in charge of the department of quelling the blacks, not the good ones though, just the ones that are too uppity

      • sw19headlessvoteperson

        I’m getting a Samuel L Jackson in Django Unchained vibe from him.

    • sw19headlessvoteperson

      Remind me: what does his beloved Constitution say about freedom of speech again?

      • Sean McLaren

        “For me, and not for thee”

      • Nounverb911

        IOKIYAR!

      • UnsaltedSinner

        That the only legitimate form of protest is to occupy a bird sanctuary?

        • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

          I laughed out loud. Well done.

    • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

      Except that we have the right to. Has he even cracked that thing open?

      • BeverlyCrusher’sWig

        Exactly. No reason except they don’t need a damn reason except this is America and they can. (Something which all of us on Wonkette would say if it was them protesting as well. Though we’d snark about it which is why I love this place and all of you).

    • UnsaltedSinner
      • “Protest is OK when it’s stuff I agree with!”

      • Sean McLaren

        Fascism. Violent “protests” in the name of our ethno-nationalist madness are perfectly legal and necessarily, protests against them have “no legitimate reason” and will be me with violence, state or otherwise

    • Professor Fate

      of course when folks were threating armed revolt if Hillary won, his silence was deafening.
      And oh yes it’s the will of the electoral college the popular vote went Hillary’s way

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        Damn, you beat me to my comment!

        • Professor Fate

          Sorry – it’s still a valid point no matter how many times it is said. Folks don’t listen the first 350 times anyway.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      Meanwhile Trump’s supporters were calling for violent protests and “2nd amendment solutions” if Trump didn’t win.

  • schmannity

    My modest proposal: the hand wringing, teeth gnashing, wailing, whimpering, and other post-election emoting end at 5:00 today and we get back to the things that make this country great, that’s right, DICK JOKES. From a modest Pilgrim’s “That shallt she sayeth,” to every tired Weiner joke, this country is built on a rock hard bedrock of dick jokes. Has there ever been a President-elect with more potential future sex scandals, more potential schadenfreude, more potential dumbfuckery in your lifetime? A target rich environment awaits.

    • Shan

      I’m still angry and feeling broken. Maybe tomorrow.

    • Nounverb911

      How many Scanning Electron Microscopes does it take to find ‘Little Donnie’?

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        AOTK

      • schmannity

        American spirit!

    • crunchyknee

      “Great minds make dick jokes; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.” –Eleanor Roosevelt

    • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

      I proposed boldy going forth with humor yesterday and some folks. ahem, disagreed.

      I think there are still a lot of people working their anger/grief/disbelief, so perhaps we can push that deadline back a week.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      If I was a comedian I’d be thrilled. You know Stewart has to be thinking “maybe I should have done a few more years…

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Ms. Gnome speculates that the Trump administration will even beat the Reagan administration in the number of scandals.

  • Daisy

    We’re going to do the most good we can, for the most people we can.

    • Constant Gardener

      In all the ways that we can, for as long as we can.

    • Treg Brown

      Daisy, since Jerry Brown is retiring and we’ll be voting for a new California governor in 2018 I’m thinking it’s never to early to start researching existing candidates and join a campaign to keep California sane while we endure the Dump presidency.

      What are your thoughts on Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom? If you or anyone here in California (actually anywhere) has an opinion, I’d love to hear it. I need to be actively engaged in helping the right person become governor to keep our state rational, and overcome the coming craziness.

      • neminem

        Yeah, my only glimmer of hope is that California basically watches Trump, and any time they remove basic liberties or requests that we all please go beat down some oppressed group, California passes laws to revert everything at the state level. It’s not ideal, but it’d at least be better for us, here, immediately.

      • Daisy

        I admit I don’t have strong opinions about him, but he seems capable, and he seems to have put a lot of work into the ammunition regulation proposition.

  • maxinn

    Robyn – every time I read you, I’m glad you’re writing for Wonkette. This is so well stated. Thanks…I needed that.

  • Vienna Woods

    Hey Americans I have a question. It is unconscionable that 300,000 citizens in Wisconsin alone were denied the right to vote over ID laws. Here’s what I want to know.

    This has been around for a few years, right? I’m not sure exactly when pig-fucker Walker brought it in, but I know it’s been a couple of years at least.

    So, the Dems must have known this was going to be a problem. Was there any effort by them to solve that problem on an individual basis? I mean, local Dems reaching out to likely voters and making sure that their ID was ok- like maybe last year? Offering to drive people to distant offices to get their ID?

    I know the North Carolina fuckshow was engineered to a large degree by those mailings. That one’s harder to deal with- except now that the Dems know about it, surely they can make part of their 2018 ground game making sure that they reach out to voters to make sure that they aren’t tossed off the rolls. Sure, it’s a big effort- but that’s the only way to circumvent the ratfuckers on the other side, isn’t it?

    • EvilHRLady

      Yes, but there have been lawsuits-it’s been struck down and then upheld. So, in the August election, we didn’t need our ids but we did for the general. Also, yes, there have been id drives but Scooter and company were suppose to advertise the ability to obtain an id from the DMV but he claimed the state too broke for that. It’s been a real shit show.

      • Vienna Woods

        I knew about the lawsuits, but they’re a gamble. And isn’t it better to be prepared just in case- which is how it turned out? And if Walker won’t advertise, surely the Dems should be, shouldn’t they?

        • Jennifer R

          I mean, if you have a DMV only open 2 hours a month busing people there and giving them money for the ID isn’t the choke point.

          • EvilHRLady

            And there are reports of DMVs refusing to issue people IDs.

        • EvilHRLady

          The Dems have been weakened in our state-which got even worse this past Tuesday. I know different voter groups were trying to get people in-sorry I don’t know the exact numbers. UW Madison campus issued more than 7,000 voter id approved cards to students. I am also shocked by the low turnout in general. Everyone was saying record early voting numbers-now they are saying this is the lowest turnout since 1996. I’m cynical enough to think that vote went missing-especially in Madison and Milwaukee.

    • Jennifer R

      When the chief justice of the supreme court says racism is over then lawsuits seem kind of empty.

    • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

      All of that, plus some last minute lawsuits, but it wasn’t the DCCC, it was progressive orgs that sprouted out during the attempted recall who led the charge. However, turnout was at a 20 year low overall, and we underestimated the ferret top’s ability to drag out deplorables who normally only roll off their barstools to drive home at last call.

  • Incoming Ham

    So this: there a flyer calling for ‘vigilante squads’ circulating around Texas State Uni.

    The wingnuts call “false flag.” It’s early to tell where it came from, but it’s fucking creepy nonetheless.

  • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

    “He promised them something that he will never be able to deliver on without our consent — and that is the ability to say and do racist, homophobic, bigoted, sexist, deplorable things without fear of being judged.”

    Here here. The first time a Trump supporter gets called an asshole, they’re going to say, “But Trump won!”. The rest of us will respond, “So fucking what…asshole.”

    Great point Robyn.

    • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

      I like your new nym :-)

      • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

        Thank you! I Was worrying one thread back that even though I was mocking the idea of “the south will rise again”, it still might be insulting. THen I made a joke about how I’d tweak it.

        But hanks. ;)

  • Daisy

    I’ve decided that I want to carry on Hillary’s legacy.The legacy I should not have to speak of yet, because she should have seen it to full completion. My demographic, white women, cost her this.

    • Yr. Gma

      I’m proud of you.

    • Rick Hill

      Look at the people who have been most effective in influencing others. Look at what doesn’t work. Don’t wind up being the cranky old cat lady who lives at the edge of town and good luck to your mission.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      You are supported by people who are older than they care to admit to anyone. I’ll shamelessly steal a rival college’s slogan yet again: FIGHT ON!

    • Jamoche

      You’re at Berkeley – that’s a great place to start from! Finding an activist group to join should be no problem.

  • memzilla

    Graffiti on 23rd St opposite Madison Square Park. Watched the dawrgs play in their dog run and smiled for the first time in a couple of days.
    .
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/15fe5c5952b2a8d7452be59ac1081ede1bc7a7047cce859c208209e58a774195.jpg

  • Sean McLaren

    those (myself included) of us that used to think “AmeriKKKa” was hyperbolic and not especially productive, may have been more naive than we thought
    https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/796787715450793985

    • Yr. Gma

      Dear god.

    • MizzMazz

      I hate Redding. Lived there in ’90, and was so glad to depart. I see it hasn’t changed.

      • NastyBosGrl

        Sadly, a similar thing happened in the “The People’s Republic”, Cambridge, MA, so it’s everywhere.
        https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/796808443122356224

        • The Postal Inspectors are gonna have that guy’s ass.

          • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

            Further down on that twitter feed, they respond thanking the person for notifying them. A nd then a second saying it’s gone up to proper management.

    • We’ve hit critical mass – we are probably going to be sending out a directive to all staff that bullying and intolerance by students and staff is unacceptable, wrong, and will be punished. And to remind staff that, under both state law and District policy, failure to intervene or act upon known bullying is equally a violation of your duties and will also be punished.

  • Señor Skwerl!
  • Yr. Gma

    My oldest friend and I (a couple of superannuated hippies) were discussing this yesterday, and we decided it’s a sign of progress that the bigots don’t want us to think they are bigots. Fifty years ago, any random bigot would call anyone by the “n” or any other letter word to his face, in public,and practically no one would call him on it. If you had asked him then if he were a bigot, he would have been very puzzled. “I don’t like ___________. I’m normal.” That doesn’t happen (overtly) as much as it did when I was a kid. Of course, the lesson I learned at home, don’t call people by those names because it’s rude, wasn’t exactly preaching tolerance, but it was something. That a bigot doesn’t want to be known as one is a kind of perverse step in the right direction.

    • NastyBosGrl

      The racists love to live in the shadows; they feel emboldened right now but this isn’t Archie Bunker’s America. We’re going to call them out on it every single time and they are not going to like it.

      • Yr. Gma

        True. It was an earthquake, culturally, when Archie Bunker took everyday racism to the TV screen. That’s one of the things that helped us get to the (slightly) better place we are today.

    • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

      Babby steps. Thanks, Gma! That actually DOES make me feel better.

      • Yr. Gma

        That’s exactly what it is. Baby steps. We celebrate them.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Glad someone can see the silver lining in this shit. Sending an internet hug to the person who my IRL Gma would be glad she’s filling in for my late Grandmother and trying to comfort my heartbroken ass!

      • Yr. Gma

        I’ve sat through enough storms to learn how to look for the silver lining. I hate that you kids are all still hurting so, but I know it took me a few body blows before I learned to get up and fight back. I’m still an old hippie, and there are plenty of us still here to back you up.

        • Resistance Fighter Callyson

          Thanks honey. Right now we need you more than I can say!

          • Yr. Gma

            I’ll try to keep on breathing.

  • georgiaburning

    Thanks for the Emma Goldman reference, a woman so dangerous that she was a political prisoner of both capitalists and communists.

  • anwisok

    “They need societal approval more than we do, because they are weak.”

    I noticed that when I called out a cousin on FB for being a racist prick, he’s the one that couldn’t remain friends with me. So deeply invested, he apparently can’t even be FB friends with anyone who isn’t a racist. Certainly showed ME that he has the courage to stand up for his convictions!
    http://telegraf.com.ua/files/2012/10/enot.jpg
    http://baseimages.carddit.com/a/tMwwTvbrW.jpg?1323450879
    http://www.wall321.com/thumbnails/detail/20120305/facepalm%20lions%201024×768%20wallpaper_www.wall321.com_62.jpg
    http://smync.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/animal_facepalm.jpg

    • Yr. Gma

      Cousins are the worst.

  • Vagenda and Tiara

    Yeah, they “won” by losing the popular vote. Trump lost the popular vote by 300,000 votes, which means the majority of voters do NOT want him or his policies. I have a suggestion, and I’d like to know what you guys think of it, and how you could help me accomplish my goal.
    Here’s my suggestion. We all try to rally our friends and colleagues by starting a mail in campaign. I want to entitle it “#NO-Mandate. What I want to do is send a million postcards to the White House, all CongressMorons, and to Trump Tower. I just want millions of postcards to land on the heads of all these fucktards on February 9th, which say “NO MANDATE!” Letting them know that the rest of us are furious that an incompetent, lying, theiving moron is now “our” president.

    • Rick Hill

      Already wrote the esteemed Sharod Bronw and asked he fight for those with no power, to stand up to these asshats, now.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        I’m glad you did that, but how can I get my campaign started? I have never done anything like this before, but I need to do this. I just don’t know how to spread the word.

        • Rick Hill

          Yeah, I know. This needs a concerted effort, not a bunch of small ineffective ones. It’d also be nice to add a current list of trump affiliates and call for a national boycott. Maybe add a localized section too. I drove by a landscaping place today that had a huge trumpence sign.

        • Rise Up Demme!

          Pantsuit nation on facebook?

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            I do not know of this thing of which you speak, but I shall seek it out.

          • Rise Up Demme!

            pantsuit nation is a pro hillary site on facebook.
            if you post your idea on there, you might get some helpful insight from the commenters.

    • laughingnome

      Strike. Shut it all down on January 20th and March on Washington. Present a list of demands. DC Statehood for starters. Resistance starts on Trumps first day.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        I’d love to join a march, even though I’m broke, and can’t really afford to go to Washington. I was hoping I could get some suggestions on how to start a write in campaign. I’m one person, and I have no power, but I want to get this thing off the ground. HELP!!!!!!

      • YoNastyBunny

        Eh… Not a fan, myself, for march on DC during the inauguration. Most of the places of significance I DC will be shut down, and secret service will pretty much have the city on lockdown. And there will be the inevitable clash of Trumpkins, ugh. Protesting will just feed the trolls. Ideally, I would like for us to ignore his ass on his big day. But if some feel strongly about it, I guess…

    • Rise Up Demme!

      i’m in!
      start a facebook page

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        Good idea. I really have no clue what I’m doing!!!!

    • Constant Gardener

      So, you’re going to need in kind donations of card stock and ink, cash donations to cover the printing and postage, and marketing. Why not set up a 501(c)(4) and do a kickstarter?

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        Damn, you youths are so good at this kind of thing. I was actually hoping to get people to buy their own postcards and send them in. I figure if I can get three people to tell three friends, who will tell three friends, etc… I want to literally BURY the White House in mail. The Post Office HAS to deliver it, no matter how much there is.

        • Constant Gardener

          Thank you for thinking I’m a youth. I’m so freaking old. But I’m a lawyer and, being old, I know people are way too lazy to go get their own postcards and too cheap to mail them. Yours is a good idea, you just need to make it easy, and it could really go.

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            I wish I had more money! I do have a friend who makes cards, maybe he can help me…I hate to ask since he’s on a fixed income and getting kicked out of his LA apartment since his building got sold and the new owners want to jack up the rent on him.

          • Constant Gardener

            Printing companies. Think printing companies. Or look at Vista Print or one of the many vendors you can google. Then, you just need to distribute them and get out press releases letting people know about your campaign and where to find (buy? maybe for the price of postage?) cards. Then pick a day to mail them, like January 20, 2017. Boom.

            Edit: Sorry, I’m hijacking your idea. It’s a good one. Do it. Best of luck.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      I want all women in the country to write constantly to Pence, telling him about their periods and things, because he’s so interested in our health. I’m writing, “Dear Mr. Pence, I just wanted you to know that my nipples are sore today. I had a hysterectomy twenty years ago, so it’s not because my period is coming. Do you have any suggestions as to what I should do? would I be wise to see my doctor?” I think we should blanket his fucking desk with these.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        Ha ha…I LOVE this idea!!!!

  • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

    “The greatest test of courage on earth is to bear defeat without losing heart.”
    ~ Robert Greene Ingersoll “The Great Agnostic”

    • Shan

      Mine’s not lost it’s just in hiding for a little while.

      • Treg Brown

        Please give yourself all the time you need. It’ll be back.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      My heart will come back to life after a couple of days of day-drinking, but thanks.

      • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

        I’m going the sober route for a few days, because I think I’m in denial… i just can’t accept that this is real.

        On the other hand, drinking is probably healthier !

  • smr06va
    • Treg Brown

      “As I have said before, we might have made errors among a few of the thousands and thousands of financial transactions we conducted, but they were honest mistakes – no one intended to break any law.” – Aaron Schock

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a6c5e5c9cb995659415033148103466a85c6ea1c0b3b7cc94946a632c0410bba.gif

      • Anna Rompage

        How can you have intention of breaking the law if you don’t understand it because of your entitlement issues in the first place?

        • Treg Brown

          Exactly. He didn’t know, therefore he’s innocent!

          Laws are fun.

          • YoNastyBunny

            I always heard that “ignorance is not an excuse”… I guess this only applies to us poors.

  • jetjaguar

    PROTIP OF THE DAY: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7f37f04c8ab0bacb7dd8e3187e817b056ad4f34c3a6b1c2605091ab2e007ea72.png There is a chrome extension called “word replacer II” which will automatically replace any word with another word. So, for example, whenever a site in my browser says “donald trump” I see “Fploofy Flufflepuff” instead. It helps, a lot.

  • Señor Skwerl!

    Minnesota has just been called for Clinton. Michigan is the last state left.

    • Resistinceisnotfutile

      MY CONGRESSIONAL SEAT IS STILL TOO CLOSE TO CALL. There are 620,000 absentee and provisional ballots left. They have to mostly be soldiers. OH MY GOD ITS NOT OVER. Issa could still get thrown out on his disgusting greasy ass.

      • Nounverb911

        And when he loses, someone should set his car on fire. (With votes?)

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Pfft. That can’t be true. They haven’t even counted ALL the votes from the California dem primary.

  • laughingnome

    National strike on Inauguration Day!!

    • Paperless Tiger

      Perfect!

      • laughingnome

        Pass it on! Long weekend too since it’s a Friday. If we get 300K it’s symbolic of the 300k voices that were not heard by the electoral college.

  • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

    This is the pattern of Brexit–ugly, but you know what? fuck them. I know too many people who are talking about being afraid. Time to stop.

    Unlike immigrants to the British Isles, fleeing back to the continent, or waiting fearfully to see how the noisy, vicious Brexiters in their local communities will treat them, we Americans are on the whole stuck within the boundaries of our continent, with nowhere else to go unless we have a whole lot more cash money than most of us have.

    So this country is where we end up having to take our stand.

    And as the only Hillary voter in a neighborhood full of crazy damn Donald voters, I spent about a day being slightly but authentically afraid of them all before I realized I was too friggin’ angry to be afraid any more.

    The sons of bitches had better learn to be afraid of me, in fact. I may even go over to the local sporting goods store and learn to pick up a gun without fainting away with fright: if ever I were to buy one, I might not ever be able to shoot it, but I could sure throw it hard enough to knock one of the bastards out cold.

    I have lived through assassinations and constitutional crises. Close family members were among the thousands of Americans Red-baited and driven underground during the 1950s. I have seen the cities of this nation go up in flames. I have seen cops conspire with the FBI to murder civil rights leaders in Chicago. I have seen National Guardsmen gun down kids on two college campuses–the white one, that everybody talked about, and the black one, that nobody talked about.

    I have, in short, lived through a lot of what gets dished out by the America that voted for Donald on Tuesday. I will live through this, too.

    But I am quite determined to stop conciliating, stop compromising. Forty years of trying to get along with the right brought us to this point. I’m glad to see the kids are back in the streets again, rising up angry. Hope the olds join them next year, when Donald and his toy Congress privatize Social Security. We need more hell-raising and radical-building on our side of the field.

    And, for the record: not my president, never my president. I hope I’ve only got to say that for four years, but I’ll go the full-out eight if Chuck Todd and company decide to turn Donald into a darling and keep him around, and I’ll be fighting away through the whole rotten circus. Whatever it takes.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Well-said. Learn to handle and use a gun, if you want, but don’t get one. A gun won’t make you safer – physically, psychologically, or morally.

    • Rise Up Demme!

      i like the cut of your jib.

  • peteywheats

    Criticizing “political correctness” is just antother way of saying. I get to be as big of a Nazi, racist fuckhead as I want and you can’t say shit.

    Not happening, Nazis.

    BTW, not sure if you know, but if a KKK-endorsed person becomes president, the Godwin rule is officially suspended for 4 years.

    • goonemeritus

      Not just the KKK but actual Nazis.

      • peteywheats

        Trump, KKK, GOP, Nazis, all in the same basket of deplorables now, as far as I’m concerned.

  • Paperless Tiger

    My conservative pals voted for Trump, but only because they thought Hillary would take their guns. They seem genuinely concerned about what Trump might do, so I tried to help them out by telling them that Trump is going to fuck them. I think they need to know.

    • Treg Brown

      Well done. It’s in their best interest that we “tell it like it is”.

    • georgiaburning

      Trump won’t “take” their guns, his con will be to get them to turn them on each other.

    • Crystalclear12

      Hard and without lube.

    • Pazuzu75

      Well, Trump won’t take their guns but they’ll probably have to sell them for food when he tanks the economy.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Putin will take their guns after he forces Hitler to call off the army, and comes in and takes over.

  • in the name of the moon

    Guys the aunt I care for who has developmental disabilities is watching a slide show of her late mom and just weeping. She has always hated Trump, and tho she doesn’t seem to others like she’s aware, she is. I’ve kept ranting to Mr Moon to a minimum so it’s just that she* knows*. I made her tea ( my gran was Britsh) but what else can I do?? This is making me cry in the bathroom and I haven’t cried this whole time. my poor auntie.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      [hugs] Your aunt is so lucky to have you.

  • Michael Smith

    “keep being funny — because it’s what keeps us sane enough”

    And cuz we sure as hell know they can’t be funny.

    On a serious note, I cannot believe some of the shit I’m seeing that people are doing in their jubilation that the minorities have been put in their place. Fuck them, man. Wow.

    Look, I’ve never been a fighter or much of a tough guy at all, but I’ve always been pretty good at blaming myself for any abuse hurled my way. But this isn’t coming my way. When I walk down the street, Trump voters look at me and think I probably voted for him. Because, you know, I’m a white guy.

    But I’m not going to sit back and let this shit happen to other people because a bunch of spoiled, bitch-ass little pricks think that Trump’s election validates their utter lack of compassion, empathy, intelligence, any brain activity at all, humanity, ability to handle their emotions and self esteem problems, general uselessness and all around bad-person-ness.

    It was easier to be liberal before yesterday. Its as easy to be a white man as it ever was. The least we can do is be liberal as fuck.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Honey, people like you make me not ashamed to be from my home state, so there’s that. It is people like you who are going to restore this nation to sanity (because us CA phone-bankers seemigly can’t) so fight on!

      • Michael Smith

        Thanks Callyson. And there’s plenty here that feel the same way.

    • Bear OmNomNom

      I’ve never been a fighter either, but I’m stealth gay (to the point of near redneck) and not exactly tiny. Think I’ll take the privilege afforded by that non-recognition and use it to keep my ears open for any abuse, of anyone. Ready for #SmashingTrumpkins under a bear paw, if necessary.

      • Michael Smith

        I like that hashtag.

  • Incoming Ham

    This has been exhausting. In a week or so I will be able to have cogent thoughts about it. Right now I am just trying to avoid having my brain explode with fear of the people who live around me. People that voted for Trump that are secret racists, antisemites and homophobes. I feel like I am among the Pod People.

    • Thanksgiving Loki

      People that voted for Trump that are secret racists, antisemites and homophobes.

      Most of them are not particularly secret about it. The day after America decided to initiate Armageddon I saw a torrent of antisemitism unlike anything I have ever seen before.

      The only consistency to Trump’s campaign was how much he hated minorities. And the reason why he was able to swing so many rural areas filled with non-voters to him was because, not despite, that fact.

      • Incoming Ham

        I’m seeing people that never spewed bigoted things now just going to town with it. These are people that I *thought* I knew. There are a bunch of them that turned out to be alt-right and I never would have seen that coming. Where I am is not a flyover rustbelt area – it’s affluent and most people here have at least a bachelors (probably a hefty chunk have masters) and many are well off tech entrepreneurs.

        Maybe some like Trump because they feel he will cut their taxes, who knows, but it’s hard to remove the bigot element from their choice.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    This middle-aged born-in-America straight white dude supports you, Robyn. And everyone who isn’t like me. Everyone who isn’t a total asshole.

    On good days, I like to think that’s at least a smidgen over 50%. I hope to have another one of those good days soon.

  • Luxury Stains

    this is one of the few things i’ve read that actually heartened me between jags of ugly crying.

    • Jenn

      Same here.

  • Greyhame

    until we can’t. remember how the libel laws will be opened up?

    • There are no Federal libel laws.

      President-elect Trump made many promises that are difficult or impossible for him to fulfill.

  • Jamoche

    There’s a tumblr tracking the fallout http://ithasbegun2016.tumblr.com/?og=1

    • Shan

      I should not have read that.

      • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

        Me either.

      • Treg Brown

        Nope. That was horrible.

  • DoILookAmused2u ?

    The good news is Trump and his lawyers will be dealing with upwards of 75 active lawsuits.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      I’m pretty sure Newt will be along directly to tell us that a sitting President can’t be subjected to civil litigation. For, ya know, the good of the country and all.

      • DoILookAmused2u ?

        Guiliani just said he can build a wall with an executive order. lol

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          Cool. I knew eminent domain wasn’t as complicated as they’ve been making it.

          • DoILookAmused2u ?

            The scary thing is this guy was a prosecutor. lol

        • Jennifer R

          I would like to see an executive order life a single bag of concrete.

          All those farmers and ranchers along the boarder are going to be torked when the government claims imminent domain and gives them pennies for the land.

          • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

            Technically they have to do it for fair value, but as I type I realize you probably new that but were saying they’re going to screw those folks just like they will the rest of us.

          • Jennifer R

            No one is spared the lash.

    • Thiazin Red

      And his trial for fraud is coming up in the next weeks, there is also still the investigation into his “charity”.

    • Anna Rompage

      I think Trump is under the impression that he now has the Justice Dept to defend him, and if he’s found guilty of criminal charges, that he can just pardon himself…

  • Nounverb911

    OT
    Obamacare enrollment jumped yesterday….

    https://twitter.com/latimes/status/796828557855035392

    • Jennifer R

      The popularity of waiver systems like Kyneckt could yet still save some of the PPACA.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Kynect has been done away with by our shitstain carpetbagging asshat governor. If we want coverage we have to go on the national exchange now.

        • Jennifer R

          I thought blevins backed off when people started braying for his blood?

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Nope. It’s gone. He didn’t listen or care. He’s a fucking wrecking ball.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      Republicans are going to “repeal and replace” Obamacare, by renaming it, and then taking credit for it.

      • Nounverb911

        Repeal now, replace in 20 years…

    • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

      Would have been fucking helpful if they had done it before election so we had better numbers to tout. All this day after stuff is starting to piss me of.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Obamacare is the reason I currently have coverage. Looking forward to the day I don’t have coverage so I can just die and not live through a Trump adminstration. Fuck.

      • Rise Up Demme!

        is there an actual resistance movement?
        if so, linky please!

        • Resistance Fighter Callyson

          Not that I know of yet but I’ll keep you posted!

  • Duke

    My son was protesting at the state capitol until 2AM!

    So proud.

  • SullivanSt

    If you live in New Jersey or Virginia, VOTE IN 2017 – you have Gubernatorial and state legislative elections next year.

    • Nounverb911

      But Christie is term limited unless he’s serving a term in the Federal pokey, or he’ll be Trump’s McDonalds boy….

      • therblig

        and after his poor performance (to the extent he actually performed here instead of spending most of his term in NH), including 9 NINE! credit downgrades, the next governor is almost guaranteed to be the democrat Phil Murphy. thank whoever (god/crom/landru) the voters of bergen county sent that fucking asshole scott garrett packing.

      • SullivanSt

        This is of course a wonderful thing but New Jersey liberals need to
        make sure their voices are heard when his replacement is elected.

        In Virginia it’s super important that liberals get in the habit of voting in odd years – the state senate that controls redistricting will be elected in 2019 (GOP currently controls 21-19) and the General assembly in 2021.

        (Jersey has a 13 person commission with 6 commissioners appointed by each party and the 13th being a non-politician selected by the other 12, so control isn’t a factor for redistricting there)

        (Also zero chance Christie will wind up in Federal pokey when he is running Trump’s transition team and therefore gets to recommend the AG, wouldn’t put it past him to pull a Cheney and say himself)

  • Resistinceisnotfutile

    Thank you Robyn. Such a beautiful and much needed piece.

  • YoNastyBunny

    Every battle fought in the interest of equality and fairness has been fought without the approval or interest of the government and those in charge.

    PREACH!!!!

  • Jeffocaster in the desert

    BIG MISTAKE TODAY. OT. I decided to buy a Richie Havens LP I found at the thrift store. 50 cents. Playing it now Making me soooo sad. How am i going t make it four years or more of this…….

    • Nounverb911

      Beethoven Symphonies?

  • Rick Hill

    “I am a female / I am mixed race / I am a child / And I cannot vote / But that will not stop me / From getting heard / Love is love / And love Trumps hate,” she said.
    https://twitter.com/britt_paige1955/status/796557511251861505

  • memzilla

    This is the most hopeful thing I’ve seen in the past couple of days.
    . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2687e4a4b0e8ada2b7f2c3be28643086270ad7d2f058a2a3a0ad2d2428269c62.jpg

    • Jeffocaster in the desert

      That is good. Except…….take the children of the 60’s and map them…..see how things change.

      • Pierre_de_Fermat

        Yeah, I haven’t wanted to go there too much, but it is a trend. Still, I tend to be optimistic about the younger voters. Not so optimistic about the future that awaits them, though. If some of the announcements of the new regime are to be believed …

  • Jack

    56% voter turnout? How is that American? If the DNC hadn’t put their thumb on the scale we would all be celebrating Berni’s impending reign, not crying in our beer about a short fingered vulgarian about to fuck over our Supreme Court!

    The DNC establishment fucked over our country for the next forty years because they felt Hillary couldn’t lose against Trump. Apparently not that many people were excited about that woman in the White House. Warren yes, Hillary not so much.

    • Jennifer R

      You think a rich fake socialist jew was going to win the hearts and minds of middle and upper white america?

      Maybe you haven’t seen the news today but there is a ton of racist animosity being worked out by the alt right.

      • smr06va

        I’ve been a Dem for 30+ years — I wouldn’t have voted for Bernie — who was never really a Dem.

        • DoILookAmused2u ?

          You aren’t the only one. Almost nobody 45 or over would have turned out for him.

        • Jennifer R

          I was even in for him until about January when it became apparent he didn’t know shit about jack.

          • Marceline

            He lost me forever when he called Planned Parenthood “the establishment.” That bit of the establishment took care of me when I was making $13K a year and living on cup-a-soup. Seriously, fuck him.

          • The Devastated Ms. MLG

            13k a year AND cup-a-soup? LIBERAL ELITE!

        • Cheesus Crust

          I thought he was a shit candidate, who ran a shit campaign and would have been a shitty POTUS… but I would have voted for him to avoid Trump.

          • smr06va

            In that situation, I would have held my nose and voted for Bernie, but I would have done so knowing that in all likelihood, he would lose.

    • DoILookAmused2u ?

      lol – yeah, that’s the ticket. Except for the part where Bernie lost almost every high turnout real primary and not those low turnout caucuses.

    • Jamoche

      They voted for the pussygrabber for no other reason than there’s an (R) after his name; what makes you think that would’ve changed for anyone else?

    • Marceline

      I guess you’ve missed all the antisemitism in this election. You might want to check with Kurt Eichenwald to see how the Trumpers treat Jews.

      Also, black folks weren’t going to turn out for Bernie the way we turned out for Hillary. Biden? Yes. Bernie? Hell no.

      • Pierre_de_Fermat

        …Also, black folks weren’t going to turn out for Bernie the way we turned out for Hillary.
        An inconvenient truth. It often is overlooked; for some, only white folks count.

      • mailman27

        Also check with Eichenwald about the Repub oppo research. He saw what they had, and said it was brutal. The knives never really came out in the Dem primary because there were only basically two candidates, and we aren’t fucking lunatics like the Trumpers. You can bet the Republican campaign would have been as vicious as it was dishonest. Socialist this, long haired radical that, career politician,few bills with his name on ’em, more socialist, commie, more socialist- it’s not hard to imagine. And then there’s the shit they just woulda made up. The fact that a con man like Trump could get elected turns most political assumptions on their pointy little heads, but I don’t think that Bernie would have fared any better. Maybe worse.

    • Cheesus Crust

      Kindly go somewhere and unfuck yourself.

      Bernie’s loss on election night wouldn’t have taken as long as Hillary’s, nor would it have been as close. Why? Because PoC didn’t like him, and didn’t trust him. And why would they, BernieBros (not all, admittedly) were some of the most VILE racists in this entire campaign, and that’s saying something.

      Secondly, Bernie LOST the primary not because of the DNC, but because of PoC. The last place finisher in the semi-final, doesn’t get to go on to the final.

      But noooooo…. Bernie didn’t lose because he ran a shit campaign with only one message, basically and really fucking awful surrogates, – but because of the DNC. Amirite?

      God, you people are so unbelievably dull.

    • Blacktop Cadence

      Hey, I toooootally am going to work with you to elect liberal candidates when you’re being a jackass to anyone who didn’t agree with you.

      Fuck off and do nothing for four years like you folks always do.

    • Um, just so this isn’t a completely fact-free rant, that amount was actually a little higher than in 2012 (55%) and, other than 2008 (63%), was right in line with the direction turnout has been trending for the last 40 years.

    • Rick Hill

      If Bernie couldn’t make it, with the DNC s thumb and all, how could he have beaten the crazed, deranged trump machine?

    • The Devastated Ms. MLG

      Please take your pathetic attempt at using Elizabeth Warren’s name to cover your raging misogyny and fuck off. How tired “that woman” must be of being used by boys like you for that purpose. Hillary Clinton, THAT WOMAN, won the nomination with votes, just like Trump did. No one handed a thing to her. You feel fucked by the DNC? Oh honey…you, and the rest of us, are gonna find out shortly what it means to be well and truly fucked.

      • Thiazin Red

        And how fast did they turn on Warren when she campaigned for Clinton?

        • Blacktop Cadence

          Just look at her Facebook page to find out. Good lord.

          • Serai 1

            They never cared about the issues. They just wanted to Make Sure The Bitch Didn’t Win.

      • Pierre_de_Fermat

        These aren’t Bernie’s folks. They just like to act as though they are. Well, Rebeccah’s “Spats McGee” might be, but it is really just too absurd.
        http://wonkette.com/608472/be-right-back-have-to-murder-this-bernie-or-buster

        • Serai 1

          Don’t kid yourself. There are PLENTY of Bernie’s folks who act like this. I’ve run into a few. Denial is their waterway.

    • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

      Yeah, Jewish socialists are really popular with Trump’s base. Sick of hearing this idiocy.

    • jowgajen

      Bernie. Isn’t. Qualified.

    • Crank Tango

      How long was Bernie a democrat again?

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Fortunately, Jack, there are two major political parties in this country. If you’re dissatisfied with the Democratic Party, there is another one you can try. The rest of us are too busy gearing up to fight to worry about your worthless temper tantrum of what might have been.

    • Serai 1
  • Marceline

    It’s almost cute to see how many Trumpkins think that just because their guy won we’re all going to just roll over. I’ve been having wild fun telling them that Trump isn’t a legitimate president because he didn’t win the popular vote. They can’t deny it so they just keep saying things like “Hillary lost. Period.” to which I reply, “Except she didn’t really, did she?”

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      I live in librul librulz land, so it’s unlikely it will come up around me, but I am absolutely going to remember that as a tactic. Kudos.

    • BMW

      He is the legitimate president-elect, but he lacks a popular mandate from the people (despite what Paul Ryan has to say about it).

      • Marceline

        I watched for years while these monsters questioned Obama legitimacy because of his birthplace. I’m damn well going to keep calling Trump illegitimate when he lost the popular vote and only won because of voter suppression and Russian interference.

        • BMW

          Them being stupid doesn’t give us permission to also be stupid. “When they go low, we go high.”

          • Marceline

            Except unlike the claims the birthers made, nothing I said is false. The voter suppression in Wisconsin probably swung the state. Comey and his cronies in the FBI did violate the Hatch Act and now we know that Trump was communicating with Russia all through the campaign. So tell me again how he’s legitimate when what we saw here was basically a slow motion coup?

            Going high shouldn’t mean being blind.

  • Randy Riddle

    When these racists, bigoted asshats are finally voted out of office or sent to jail, I’ll very happily piss on the grave of winner non-racist Jesse Helms.

    • Jennifer R

      Did they ever find the collection of little shoes?

      • Randy Riddle

        I had to look that one up. lol

  • emmelemm

    Thank you, Robyn. This is what I needed to hear.

  • Terri Czarski

    THIS is the best battle cry I have ever seen/heard. I am going to do something old-fashioned: I will print this and attach it to my mirror so that I am reminded every f’ing day to keep fighting.

  • Sean McLaren
    • Jennifer R

      Would it kill him to wear a suit that goddamn fits?

      • Nounverb911
      • smr06va

        And those fucking finger circles whenever he talks……

        • Nounverb911

          Isn’t that the same as the middle finger in Germany?

          • Duke

            It means “asshole” somewhere. That’s an upside-down “V” in Europe.

        • Jennifer R

          My roommate pointed out that he has two hand motions. a pointing finger and that finger on thumb circle movement. And he constantly switches between the two.

          • smr06va

            Yes. And both are FUCKING ANNOYING.

      • Thiazin Red

        Really, how do you allegedly have money and still look like you bought an off the rack discount suit? I’ve seen people who shop in thrift store who look much more put together.

        • Jennifer R

          My thoery is that he thinks it covers his fat ass. Remember he is more than 70 pounds over idea, and says that fat people lack certain qualities that he swears he has.

          • Carpe Vagenda

            I am a tall fat person. Believe me, he’s way, way more than seventy pounds overweight.

          • Resistance Fighter MausFeet

            Ha! Ditto and ditto.

          • Jennifer R

            He is 6 even I think, and he produced a paper from a gastro insisting he was 273. 200 at 6 is a bit over in reality, but I was offering all the charity I can to him with that.

          • Carpe Vagenda

            The gastro was that UES fabulous furry freak doctor who inherited daddy’s practice, isn’t actually certified in his specialty, and overprescribes? Sure. If he’s a pound under 300 I’ll be amazed.

          • smr06va

            He has for years listed his height at 6’2″. Because his weight at that height makes him obese per the BMI, during the election he “grew” an inch to 6’3″, so that he is just overweight on the BMI scale.

          • Jennifer R

            Yeah but fuck BMI use a real measurement of it.

      • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

        Not that I’m defending him but, the tie, when he stands up, must circumnavigate the gut; thus it is the proper length when standing.

        • Jennifer R

          Look at his button just about popping out, yet the tails drape luxuriously over his fat ass.

          • Sean McLaren

            “luxuriously over Trump’s fat ass” is the kind of phrase that wanders out of nightmares

    • ViveLaRevolution

      The twitter responses are pretty funny too. I will follow Ashley, her peeps are smrt.

    • ViveLaRevolution

      UNBUTTON. THE. FREAKING. JACKET.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        That poor button is being asked to do an awful lot.

        • ViveLaRevolution

          Coffee Spewed on Keyboard Award!

          • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

            CSoKA!!! We ARE gonna be ok! I didn’t think I’d spew coffee ever again :-) I might even change my avatar back at this rate!

      • Sean McLaren

        it’s the bizarre but brainlessly done obsession with appearance, normal people unbutton their jacket when they sit down

      • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

        I’ve worn a suit maybe 6 times in my 38 years and even I know that. It’s one of hte things the TX dad taught me. Guess Drumpf’s pa didn’t take the time.

    • I think if I looked like that while wearing a suit the ghost of my old debate coach would appear and smack me upside the head.

    • tehbaddr

      That fucking man!

  • Scrofula

    I can’t even anymore
    800-273-8255
    talk me down, guys

    • Okay. Okay. Listen to me. Listen, okay? You’re right. This is a tough one. But we are strong. We still have the power in this country – we have the power in the streets, in the halls of our legislatures, with our voices, with our pens and our computers and our feet. We can still fight this, but we’re going to need everyone to hold the line. I’m going to be right there with you, okay? I’m going to stand there and I’m going to fight right alongside you.
      It’s okay to be scared. It’s okay to have doubt. But you are important. We need you, okay? So come on, take my hand. Don’t do it. PLEASE, don’t do it.

      • Scrofula

        You guys are the best, and I’m still here for now.

        • hey stay around! we like you! wanna come hang in Canada for a bit? we don’t have snowbanks for you to trip into and freeze in….yet

          • Scrofula

            I would love to visit Canada (again, but for real this time). Unfortunately I’m still too broke to make the trip. If you’re in BC I also have friends there; it would be a fun trip. Actually, I kind of want to experience a real winter; and you could laugh your ass off as the California boy who doesn’t even own a coat tries just to navigate the streets in his sandals (today was 80 degrees F / 27C). I didn’t see snow fall out of the sky till I was 24 and visiting Montana.

    • Resistance Fighter MausFeet

      We need you here to help fight, which seems like way more than I can even think of doing today, so I imagine you feel much the same. But our brains are stronger than hate, dammit! Call someone if you need to do so. I’ll be very open and say that I made a call to restart some therapy myself, because my depression is really not taking all this well at all. But I”m going to fight to keep kicking and not let the bastards win. I hope you do to. Hang in there! Wonkette loves you. (I can speak for us all, right?)

    • jowgajen

      Scro, call the number. Find a safe place with people. Fight.

    • Jennifer R

      You are right, this won’t be easy. But it is possible, the majority of the voters did not want this and as early as next year some states will be having new elections. Right now everyone just needs to stay alive to make it to the next time. I was right there with you Tuesday night, but I decided I didn’t want to be another name for tdor and by jesus tits I am going to fight until my last breath, which I shall use to spit in their faces. I genuinely hope you can find the spark to keep fighting.

    • The Devastated Ms. MLG

      Find your rage, baby. I’m running on rage and sheer stubborness today

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      We need you. You’re important. You’re loved. You’re part of the fight. We can’t do this without you. Lean on us. We’re here for you.

    • elviouslyqueer

      Honey, you do matter. I’m scared too, but I refuse to be bullied or to back down. Be strong. We’ve got your back. Promise.

      All the hugs,

      EQ

    • Yr. Gma

      Go find someone in one of the threads here and offer some hope and encouragement to them. Not everyone has your exact issues, and you can find someone who is weak where you are strong. And you can help. Proactive!

      • Yr. Gma

        Where are you strong? There’s something. There always is.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      I’ve never told anyone this, but I almost killed myself in 2008. I was wiped out financially. I was in my late forties, and lost every dime I had ever worked my ass off for. I knew I would never recover financially. I had my suicide all planned out – I was going to run a tube from my 1993 Volvo (with plenty of carbon monoxide) into the car. I was going to send my mother a letter telling her what I had done, and telling the police where to find my body. What kept me alive was wondering if the country would be intelligent enough to vote for Barack Obama, or they’d vote for Cranky McCain and Tundra Grifter, so I decided to wait until after the election. One of my mother’s friend’s children did kill himself because he’d been wiped out, plus I knew a real estate developer I knew did the same thing. After Obama was elected, I knew there was still hope.

      Here’s how you need to look at it – Trump’s presidency is going to be very laughable, and you have a whole community of people here who will laugh along with you as we all go broke and have to listen to Trump try to be presidential.

      • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

        I’m glad you stuck around. Also, thank you for being brave enough to share.

      • I thought about it too. I was sick, and in pain, and tired of both. I was out of a job, being crushed by student loan and medical debt, didn’t know what to do. Thought about taking my father’s pistol and putting one right in the side of my head.
        But that’s not the solution, and then (being a mild history and military buff) I thought about what Navy SEALs go through to earn that trident. The training from hell that they can quit anytime if they “rang the bell”.
        That became my mantra. Live every day, fight every day, not to ring the bell. Slowly, day by day, week by week, month by month…until I found my way out. Now I have a good job, my debt is under control, my health is better, and I’m still here.

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          I’m sorry you had to go through all of that. I think the majority of Americans have already forgotten what 2007 through 2012 were like for millions of Americans. I personally know two people who committed suicide because of financial losses they weren’t going to recover from.

          I’m still struggling financially, but I thought that things were close to turning around for me, but now I’m not so sure. My house had actually gained in value, so I thought I could sell it in the Spring. Now I’m wondering. I’m not going to off myself though, because I’m so enraged by Trump’s victory that I’m going to fight, even if I’m homeless while I’m doing it.

          • You ain’t homeless – the bottom drops out, you can come crash at my place. I make pretty decent spaghetti and I don’t snore too bad.

          • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

            I’ve got an extra couch and there’s always something to fight about in Wisco!

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            You’re a peach!

      • Scrofula

        I also made a serious attempt, besides the one I’m considering now. I had a castor bean tree growing naturally, as a weed, in the back yard. After another fight with the parents, I ate about twenty seeds, really chewed them up and sucked on them. After an ER visit and activated charcoal I was declared fine, but with a 5150 that gave me a few days with some serious schizophrenics.

        So yeah, go with rope and Xacto.

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          …or live to fight these gross fuckers another day!!!!!

        • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

          I am also prone to suicidal ideation (see current avatar), but curiosity, interest, vice and people who care have kept me from putting my friends and fam through that. Grandma hung herself in the barn…lots of the family never recovered.

          Stay here with us, or call the number, or watch a movie, or anything. We’re not going anywhere :-)

          • Scrofula

            I normally have ideation, from multiple prescriptions. My go-to salvation is that . . . I want to know how it ends! In this case, I really don’t want to know how it ends. I’ve lost my safe space, and I’m bleeding.

          • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

            This too shall pass….

          • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

            This is not how it ends. I fear for your health, please stick around!

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            It ends in 10^41 years when the last proton decays.

            More immediately? It… well, it rarely ends, as such. One story turns into another. But I’ll tell you a secret: our story isn’t done yet. Our story has been running a while now, and we’re at the part where the hero (that’s all of us – it’s OUR story) is facing their greatest challenge, and it looks kinda hopeless. But this is where the hero gathers all of their resolve and abilities, where the hero’s companions join them again, and the big battle commences. Will they win? (Personally? I think they will. The enemy is powerful but stupid, and the hero has been tested more than once in their journey to this point. They’ve won more than they’ve lost, and they have a way of finding extra strength when things get tough. And when it’s all over, when the story moves on, I think they’ll return to scour the Shire and make those spaces safe again. And think of the stories they will tell!)

        • Your pain is important. It is not something to be dismissed or ignored. So talk to us. We’re going to help you through it, okay?

          • Scrofula

            So what do we do? I said above (or below) that my go-to is that I want to know how it ends. Now I don’t want to see Russia driving tanks across Eastern Europe or Syria collapsing into dust for Assad. I don’t want to see abortion outlawed and journalists locked up in lawsuits. I know this is irrational sertraline talk but every ounce of my frontal lobes says NO.

          • What do we do? What we have done. What we always do. We fight the bad guys.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        That curiosity about the world and the future also kept me alive. And I’m glad it did. I had serious depression and anxiety and I thought just getting through daily life would always be impossibly hard and I’d never feel good. It is still very hard, but I’ve had a lot of amazing experiences and a few friendships and have even occasionally managed to help someone else. I’m glad I’m alive to face the hard times ahead.

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          I’m looking at it like this – we need to stay alive to defend the USA for Donna Rose and all the other little girls and boys, and for all of our gay brothers and sisters, the Muslims, the blacks, the weirdos who turn out to be great artists, etc…

          Colorado legalized assisted suicide, and we’re old, sick and broke, and can’t fight anymore, we’ll meet in California, and hold hands while we shuffle off this mortal coil.

    • UnsaltedSinner

      Look at Donna Rose up there. That’s also the future. And she’ll be around much longer than Trump. Think about that, and then call someone, because there will be good things coming as well, and we want you to stick around for them.

    • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

      YES, YOU CAN! Barry Bamz had to sit face to face with Ferret Top this morning. With grace and courage we will stand together and fight another day, as the good people have always done. Take internet hugs from all of us, as we have needed each other to lean on through this.

    • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

      Someone bring kittehs, stat! I have none on my work computer!

    • ViveLaRevolution

      This is only a temporary set-back. We are strong, we’re all in this together, much of the world stands with us, and most important of all, we are the good guys. YOU are one of the good guys. We are kind and caring and smart and compassionate, but now we are PISSED and we will fight back. Did I mention we are smart??!!.And you know what? The (telection proved that in terms of sheer people, WE ARE NOT OUTNUMBERED. They want us to think we are, but we are not. Even better….every day we are growing in numbers! As the haters die off (totally from natural causes, Dok) and our population gets younger and more diverse, we will prevail once and for all.

    • Marceline

      Don’t you dare give the Tangerine Snatchgrabber that kind of victory.

    • Serai 1

      Look around you. Find that person – whether human or not – who would be most hurt by your leaving, and look in their eyes. Deeply. YOU CANNOT LEAVE.

      I know where you are. I think about suicide a lot. The Long Road Home is very tempting, I know. But there are people – human or not – who need you HERE. YOU CANNOT LEAVE.

      Every person occupies a unique and valuable spot, even if they don’t think so. Nobody else can fill your spot. And you do NOT know what the future will bring. You may turn out to be a very important person in the chain of events. Whatever you will do, no one else can do it. We need you.

      YOU.

      CANNOT.

      LEAVE.

      *hug*

      P.S. Call the damn number. A human voice can work wonders. Believe me, I know from experience – those people save lives just being on the phone. Let one of them save yours.

      • Scrofula

        thank you

        • Serai 1

          No worries. As Stephen King wrote, “Life is short and pain is long, and we were all put on this earth to help each other.”

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          I called my neighbor tonight to come get all my pills. I’ve used them before and I didn’t want them in the house tonight. Please call someone to help you the same way. We can’t let the orange monstrosity win.

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      I know I’m late to this, but…

      You’re at the bottom now. That’s okay. EVERYBODY hits bottom now and again. Some people hit it a lot. I did. HARD. and I did something stupid, but I had someone in my corner and I’ve been climbing up slowly, and nowadays I look for people who need that extra bit of help and I try to give it to them.

      Don’t be hopeless. Somewhere inside everyone is a sliver of hope. Let people help you find it and nurture it. It’s not easy, but some day you’ll be glad you did, if you keep at it. Seriously. Been there, got the T-shirt and the Effexor prescription.

      And Wonkette’s been part of my therapy for a while now. Sometimes it’s community. Times like this, it’s family.

  • elviouslyqueer

    So what I’m hearing is that I still get to tell that vile wig-on-a-stick Tomi Lahren to go fuck herself with the nearest running chainsaw.

    Duly noted.

  • UnsaltedSinner
    • Carpe Vagenda

      It’s nice to see the future first woman president showing optimism in hard times like that.

      • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

        DR is undaunted. She will lead up through this dark time.

      • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

        No offense to Donna Rose, but if we still don’t have a female President by the time she’s 35, I will be terribly depressed.

  • BigRedDog

    CAN I SOMEHOW GET THOSE LAST THREE PARAGRAPHS ON A TSHIRT?

  • Blacktop Cadence

    My plan going forward is to build a database on the Illinois side of the river regarding LGBT resources (with an emphasis on transgender) for my LGBT high school babies.

    I’m going to not only be a teacher, but also an advocate and friendly face for all my students INCLUDING LGBT kiddos.

    • Yr. Gma

      Good for you! Proactive!

    • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

      Hit me up when you do – we can build a google maps thing (if I can remember how) that will plot their locations with an icon and pop up with name, address, phone number, hours, whatever.

      I’ll have to dig out the KML manual.

      • Blacktop Cadence

        I’ve already got a few from my own experiences. My therapist is helping me run down some others too, particularly other quality therapists.

        • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

          Cool…just make sure your database includes the details you want to “pop up” as in hours, address, I mentioned above…if you like thismap idea, I will help.

  • The Trump people will do all they can to erase any evidence of the Obama presidency as quickly as possible. They will obliterate as many policies, programs, executive orders, diplomatic agreements, etc. to send a message to future african american and women candidates It will be disgusting and shameful and it will require all of us to be vocal and make DC a destination for protest and civil disobedience.

    Also, can we come up with a Wonket flag to fly during our protests?

  • Rick Hill

    Wow. Remember when Jerry Garcia died? Remember the complete coverage of it, so many people of different backgrounds and experience were in mourning for at least three days. (Stick with me, I’m going somewhere with this.)
    This is a little like that, except with even more people and instead of respectful, loving remembrance it’s hate and anger and action. We. Need. This. And even more, we need to direct this. Not just a hodgepodge of protest sites but an actual movement, not that garbage suck up to the “billionaire” thing that got us here.
    So, anyone got the big guns? The web knowledge, the funding(Lucy Lawless? Are you there?) Is someone already doing it?

    • And not in the image of Occupy Wall Street. The movement died of it’s own tragic fucking hipness and it should have been much, much more. We are not looking for drum circles this time folks.

      • Serai 1

        Occupy collapsed because of a lack of focus and a terminal inability to tolerate any rules or structure whatsoever. It was so promising, but it fell victim to exactly the kind of kumbaya fuckfaced nonsense I’d grown mortally sick of back in Santa Cruz. HEADDESK.

        • As a past resident of Santa Cruz for over 20 years myself, I totally agree with you.

          • Serai 1

            YOU TOO? Gods, I got so FUCKING SICK of that shit. THAT is why nobody can take those “movements” seriously – because there’s no desire to actually WORK to get things done. It’s all “listen to meeeee” and MY FEELINGS OMG. Jesus fucking Christ.

    • Serai 1

      Thank the gods for the internet. In 2003, right after Bushie declared war, I went to the Cinerama Dome to see a showing of The Two Towers. When I got to the box office, I saw there were a lot of cops hanging around expectantly. I asked one what was up, and he told me there was a big demonstration planned, so they were there to secure the route. I went, “Oh, cool.” And went in to see my movie. When I got out, the street was FLOODED. An enormous stream of people! It was so great! I found a cop and asked about it, and he told me the count was up to 100,000! He thought it was fine, said it had been peaceful and he didn’t foresee any problems. So great! So when I went home, I turned on the TV, expecting coverage of this MASSIVE demonstration.

      Crickets.

      Nothing. Not a GODDAMN WORD. Either that day, or the next, or the next. It was like it never happened. All because the fucking TV stations were too chickenshit to say a peep against the saber-rattling bullshit going on.

      Thank the gods for the internet. It’s the only thing that gives us a chance. Because that coverup shit can’t happen now. So let’s use it while we still can.

  • genia80

    I hope pop culture figures like athletes will take the lead in opposing this racist, sexist new administration. I’m very proud that NBA players and coaches are the most outspoken about the whole thing.

    http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2016/11/10/13586028/nba-2016-golden-state-warriors-steve-kerr-stan-van-gundy-donald-trump-president

  • Smoke’EmIfYouGot’EmO’hontas

    “It is only through labor and painful effort, by grim energy and resolute courage, that we move on to better things.”
    ~ Teddy Roosevelt

  • JVisconti

    Well said Ms Robyn, well done. If the Editrix promises you 4 weeks use of the Wonkebago, will you stay on?

    • Robyn Pennacchia

      I’m still freelancing here and working Fridays!

  • Mezzaluna

    Because I promised, here it is again. Go read it, it is beautiful
    Open Letter from Leslie Knope
    http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/10/13580582/leslie-knope-donald-trump

  • Nounverb911

    In the meantime, the KKK is planning a ‘victory’ parade for December 3rd in North Carolina… Sounds like the perfect time to have a protest march.

    https://twitter.com/IndyUSA/status/796832091577188353

  • tehbaddr

    Right on Robyn!

  • Sean McLaren
    • SuspectedDemocrat

      Huh. I would have guessed Minister of Propaganda.

    • Yr. Gma

      That’s gonna piss off Omorossa.

      • Nounverb911

        She’ll be Secretary of Revenge.

    • Nounverb911
      • jowgajen

        Is Canada even on that list?

        • ViveLaRevolution

          Justin already has him blocked.

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          Trudeau called Dear Leader, which isn’t unusual. It irks me, but it’s pragmatic, and odds are that (as I said earlier) Justin isn’t going to take any shit from the fat fuck. We’re gonna have to fight especially hard to make sure we don’t get Austria’d, especially with the Conservatives still sporting hard-ons for the GOP.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      Ana Navarro “appointing Steve Bannon as chief of staff will send the message to the country that he’s going to be a very divisive president.” I’m starting to like Ana, even though she’s still a dumb fucking Republican. She also said last night “I’m considering joining the protestors in the streets.”

      • sw19headlessvoteperson

        #notallrepublicans

        • Jamoche

          We need to get the Republican congress members to see that.

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            Good luck with that now that they’re in charge. To them it’s a vindication of everything Dear Leader believes in.

      • Sean McLaren

        I think, given that we’re out of election season, it’s down to people who are going to fight for this country’s people and it’s values, and Trump supporters

      • Michael Smith

        I thought maybe trump would make that funny old onion article come true and name him Secretary of the Ulterior

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          Ha ha…that totally works.

      • satanscheerleadersloveamerica

        Maybe she will get it finally. I have enjoyed some of her rants, but she is my brother. He knows the whole ship stinks of shit, but cannot get off it because of “conservative values and US America first”

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          My mother is the same way. She is smart enough to be aware that the economy ALWAYS sucks under the GOP, but stupid enough to buy their latest talking point: “the economy always sucks when we run it, but that’s just a coincidence and has nothing to do with our insane economic ideas.” My mother repeated that talking point to me a few weeks ago, and I laughed in her face and I said “sure, and the national debt always balloons, and the banks always collapse purely by coincidence when they’re in charge.” The laughable part is that even the people who voted for Trump know he’s not qualified, but they want “change.” I guess unemployment at 5% and the Dow at 18,000 was too horrific for America to bear.

    • elviouslyqueer

      You get a tinfoil hat! You get a tinfoil hat! EVERYBODY gets a tinfoil hat!

    • BearLeft

      Deputy Chief Asswipe

      • Sean McLaren

        I think that’ll be Chrstie, or asswipe”r” anyway

    • Vincent Ricola

      I can’t believe this is reality.

  • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

    I see a lot of people are still struggling, so I want to repost this longer version of the serenity prayer. You don’t have to be a big christian to find strength in it. I’m a radical atheist, but wisdom is wisdom and I’m happy to pick and choose.

    God grant me the serenity
    To accept the things I cannot change;
    Courage to change the things I can;
    And wisdom to know the difference.

    Living one day at a time;
    Enjoying one moment at a time;
    Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace
    ;
    Taking, as He did, this sinful world
    As it is, not as I would have it;
    Trusting that He will make all things right
    If I surrender to His Will;
    So that I may be reasonably happy in this life
    And supremely happy with Him
    Forever and ever in the next.

    • Serai 1

      Or the short form: “Whatever”.

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      Yeah, I know, but if this truly is His will then fuck Him.

  • Anna Rompage

    They always said the “south would rise again”…

    Who know their charge would be lead by a NY born billionaire bully who thinks covering shit in tacky gold plating makes it all super fancy and such…

  • cosmicjunkbot

    I don’t have a dog in this fight. Well, I have lots of friends and distant relatives over there, so I guess I have a chihuahua in this fight.

    What I’m trying to say is, give that dumb, deadbeat, draft-dodging, disgusting diseased daughter-diddling demagogue Donald Drumpf and his motherfucking cronies hell.

    • Rick Hill

      The whole world has a dog in this fight.

      • sw19headlessvoteperson

        Stupid nuclear fallout!

        • Rick Hill

          Or pawns as trump builds his wealth. Or retaliates for a perceived slight.

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            Do we really need a free press? It’s a bit outdated, don’t you think? Let’s just consolidate all TV stations in to Fox News for everyone’s convenience.

          • Rick Hill

            Yeah. Let trump tell us what we need to know.

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            He’s the only person who can save us! That 5% unemployment and stock market at almost 19,000 are KILLING us!!!! Bring on the fascism, and the manufacturing jobs that Trump is going to create.

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Maybe instead of manufacturing jobs, they’ll be construction jobs. Those Concentration Camps aren’t going to build themselves, you know.

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            But who will tell him?

          • Sean McLaren

            This could be said about this entire election but,..

            “I for one welcome our new idiot overlords”

          • Kavefish

            No more carpal tunnel from turning the channel changer thingy. Yay!

            …Oh, uh…

            Nevermind.

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            You’ll get one news channel, and you’ll like it!!!!!

          • Kavefish

            :::dammit:::

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            I’m giving you tax cuts for billionaires, and you’re complaining about one TV channel and beans for dinner every night? You ungrateful wretch!

          • Kavefish

            :::looks at printout:::

            So…

            :::squints harder:::

            Where on this form does it tell me that I’m now a billionaire?

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            Sheesh! Google “bootstraps” already, would you?

          • Kavefish

            Oh! Gotcha!

            :::typing:::

            b-o-o-t-s-t-r-a….

            Damn. Sorry I can’t. My computer is only an 8-bit machine. :-/

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            Which one? I thought you said the only channel will be Fox News.

          • Sean McLaren

            or destabilizes the western alliance, allowing putin to take eastern europe, burns regional bridges allowing radical forces to take most of the middle east, allows american corporations to turn struggling african states into private fiefdoms, abandons east asia to china and north korea…..

    • dshwa

      I’m a white, straight male from a family of Christians (even though I am a militant atheist). Because of this, I will be the last domino to fall. That’s white privilege, and I know it. I didn’t ask for it and I didn’t create it. But even though I’m amongst the last dominoes, I’m still going to fight like hell to keep as many of the rest from falling as I can.

      • I’m with you, brother.

        “This threshold is mine. I claim it as my own. Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don’t give a damn. None shall pass.”

    • mailman27

      Ahem… dickweed? douchebag? dog turd?

  • Crank Tango

    Do they think this election was a referendum on trigger warnings and shit?

    • ViveLaRevolution

      Yes. Yes, they do.

      • Crank Tango

        Ya know, I was kind of expecting a backlash against PC 2.0, but I really didn’t think it would be so soon. I dunno what I was thinking.

  • SCK

    Well said.

  • Apple Scruff

    Let’s not forget the outrage at (gasp!) a BLACK STORMTROOPER!!!

    • Jennifer R

      Some of the gamergater crowd on GoG has already realized that they might be fucked.

      • Michael Smith

        Lol what are they upset about?

        • Jennifer R

          Realizing the economic shifts that are happening will hamper their ability to buy games. Some of them are worrying that tariffs will be met with overseas produced games not being for sale to americans.

          • Michael Smith

            lol for some reason that’s really funny to me. I mean what a specific thing to finally start feeling some buyers remorse about

          • Jennifer R

            The epitome of navel gazing. Most of these people are 13-35 year old white guys, who spend all day complaining about “SJWs” and want to blockade Germany because they made some German game makers edit swastikas out of a video game from 1987.

      • Kavefish

        They mad bros?

      • Carpe Vagenda

        Waitwut? Milo is more dedicated to taking money like a dishonest whore and screwing notwhite hardbodies than he is in being a helpmeet to unemployed middle class white red pills?

        You’ve got to give him credit for having the courage of his convictions. He just cucked the entire alt internet.

    • sw19headlessvoteperson

      Women Ghostbusters, also, too.

      • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

        that would have be one of the alt-right’s favorite targets – 1 black actor, 1 gay actor, 1 overweight actor.

    • Serai 1

      Fuck me. That whole kerfuffle was SO FUCKING STUPID.

  • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

    This. All of this. For all the shit Hillary got for it – really should have let a surrogate say it, though – they are deplorable and I will never stop calling them on it, even if they’re dragging me off to the fucking gulag.

  • Jay

    This is the scary stuff for me. I’m nervous but energized, yet…this Death Eaters think they’ve taken over Hogwarts shit…I want to fight it. I may not encounter it myself, but that doesn’t stop it happening somewhere, and I’ll try to fight it anyway.

  • Vagenda and Tiara

    Christ, some dim fucking Wisconsin senator is saying “we’re going to do great things for the American public if Democrats will just be gracious enough to reach their hands out and work with us.” Yeah, fucker, if we’ll all just work with you to pass more tax cuts on the super rich it will all just be great for the middle class. Tell Mitch McConnell to go fuck himself, we’re going to make Trump a one term president.

    • TXTacoTrucksWillRiseAgain

      “if Democrats will just be gracious enough to reach their hands out and work with us.”

      Translation: let us do everything we want to do.
      Obama tried that fucksticks, we’ve heard this before. And Trump’s supporters thing he’s going to change things. Pfft.

    • Yellow_Dog_Dem

      Yeah, well fuck that. I’m sick of we have to reach out. Not one of those fuckers reached out for 8 years.

    • mailman27

      This guy must have an irony deficient diet.

    • xy

      Wisconsin is the worst.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        They used to be cool back when they were blue.

    • Notreelyhelping

      Heh. The Dems are pretty good counterpunchers when they’re down. It’s leads they suck at.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      I want to make him a half-term, or quarter-term, “president.” He needs to be impeached as soon as it’s humanly possible. For anything. If he sneezes on the good china, I want someone to file impeachment papers against him.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        I want constant investigations, just like Clinton would have had.

  • dshwa

    If I weren’t an atheist, I would give you a resounding AMEN.

    • You can stick with the seemingly preferred, Ramen!

    • Serai 1

      Use it anyway. It only means, “Yes, indeed!”

  • sw19headlessvoteperson

    I’m starting to wonder just how far the GOP has to lurch to the right before it finally falls off the edge of the cliff, and takes the Teabaggers and racist pieces of shit with it.
    And also how far before all(?) the remaining moderate small c conservative republicans are willing to jump ship.

    I mean, Miss Lindsay, come on in the water’s fine…

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      For the first time in my life, I’m actually proud of Miss Lindsey, and plan to write her a letter, even though she’ll never see it.

      • Rick Hill

        I, myself , am writing my governor. Kasich, asking him to continue his stance against trump. Not sure how much good but if they know people will stand behind them, they may look out for their own future political careers.

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          Poor Kasich must feel like a fool, since he took a principled stand thinking Trump was going to lose. Trump offered to let him run the country if he’d be his VP, since Trump is not actually interested in governing. We’re all going to be ruled by Mike Pence, a dumb fucking evangelist, who was going to lose the governorship in INDIANA. How hard is it to lose as a Republican governor in a Republican state? He must be truly awful.

          • Rick Hill

            Ik,r?

    • Jennifer R

      At this point we can solidly tie the klan and david duke to the GoP. The question is does it even matter.

      • sw19headlessvoteperson

        The good news is that only 47.5% of the US is racist.

        • Markuserektus

          Hmmm…that leaves them in minority status.

        • Nounverb911

          Isn’t 47% Mitt Romney’s favorite number?

        • Crank Tango

          I actually doubt they are really all that bad–I have a feeling all this nazi ball spiking is going to be a bit of an overreach.
          I could very well be wrong.

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          Technically, only 47.5% of the voting public, since most people are too stupid to know that voting actually matters.

          • Vincent Ricola

            With a heavy heart, I upvoted this because it’s true. :(

        • Yr. Gma

          And lots of them are old. Attrition and all that.

  • NastyBosGrl

    Don’t know if anyone shared this yet. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ed20b7073a5a6975363b65ea79b63d6c2247297c8c5f48318bb60eacd20c5e16.jpg

    Edit: I’ve already put a safety pin on my jacket. I hope this becomes a thing.

    • cousin itt

      At my wife’s school yesterday, the diverse kids largely took it upon themselves to rally together and seek to understand. She and I are so proud of them. There is hope.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        I fucking LOVED that those kids walked out of school in Colorado the other day. I wanted to kiss them all for being smart enough to realize the adults just handed a moron who is going to fuck there future so hard…but in a beautiful, classy, yooge way.

    • UnsaltedSinner

      As I mentioned elsewhere, Norwegians did that during WW2, until the German occupiers banned it. (They also banned red caps, by the way. A friend of my grandparents was arrested when she wore a red sweater and forgot it was May 1.)

      • NastyBosGrl

        Wow. Well I’m ready for a fight.

    • Kavefish

      Yep. Done.

  • PigDootsMolloy

    From Sunrise at Campobello to Sunset at Mar-a-Lago

  • sw19headlessvoteperson
  • CourseZombie

    I’ve been sobbing on and off all day. I wanted to reach out to my co-worker so I hit up on chat and told her that I was so frightened for her family and daughter and ALL the daughters out there.

    Thanks Robyn, exactly what I needed to hear.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea

    Making a playlist of get up and fight music. For anyone who is ready for it and might like some of the same songs as a 39 year old white lady with mediocre taste music.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWFbwtE6pYe0xnoqMFT33KlCti4Jkd84

  • Sean McLaren

    I swear I’m not trying to be trite, or even funny. But practically and emotionally, it may be worth remembering that we really are all stronger together

    • jowgajen

      She said that, and we all collectively said, “Yeah, sure, whatever.”

      Whoops!

      Now we have to prove her right.

    • Rick Hill

      I am feeling much better at seeing the multitudes who are not taking this quietly.

    • Serai 1

      That is why she made it the slogan of her campaign.

      • Sean McLaren

        I know, just trying to remind people. It can be easy to fall to infighting or apathy during this kind of thing

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          So far haven’t seen any apathy. But I’ve seen so fucking much infighting it makes me despair.

      • Kavefish

        Also, I think it’s partly why she was able to present her concession speech with such equanimity – because she knew deep inside that this was about more than just her.

        • Serai 1

          Her whole career has been about more than her. That’s why she’s lightyears ahead of Trump.

          • Truthiness2U

            And why it’s so sad we failed her, and to live up to that.

  • Spurning Beer

    Robyn, I love you. You rock the windy city!

    • Rick Hill

      That was me upfisting you, not Robyn. Don’t get your hopes up. Also, #no homo

  • boyblue123

    OT – The silver lining the day after Trump got elected

    https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/796757506039152640

    • Rick Hill

      How about a site that is backing an investigation of the voting occurrences, that day? I’m sure the FBI is being dilient and making sure everything was above board but….

      • mailman27

        The FBI has turned the entire investigation over to the New York office.

        • Rick Hill

          Well, then….

        • Michael Smith

          Hahahaha

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        I think we need Interpol to look into this. The FBI itself is no longer a reputable or dependable or honest agency. I wouldn’t trust their report on finding a lost kitten.

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          ‘Was the kitten a Democrat or a Republican?’

    • OrG

      Well,that is good news.We’re going to need the ACLU more than ever.

    • Beaumarchais?

      I was one of them!
      Of course the first thing I got was a request for another donation, but still, everyone should donate what they can, if they can. We’re going to need these people.

    • Yr. Gma

      I’m donating. And to PP. Gpa has the Sierra Club and WWF taken care of. Charities and other non-profits are going to have to take up the slack until this mess can be undone.

    • Jay

      I joined last night.

    • Nasty Suffragette

      That is such great news — I was thinking earlier today that I’d start monthly donations to ACLU and Southern Poverty Law Center, but I guess I’ll give them a day or so to catch up first. :)

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    In case anyone was wondering: yes, I am drowning out my sorrows in alcohol despite the early hour FFS

    • Jennifer R

      I started at noon.

      • sw19headlessvoteperson

        It’s always noon somewhere!

    • Sean McLaren

      as long as you don’t drown, that’s the point ./hug

    • OrG

      Carry on,FFS!

    • Remember to eat lots of bread before you fully pickle your liver.

      • Rick Hill

        I thought it was: a lot of liver before you bread your pickle

    • Have one for me Cally. I’m still working out east but will toast to your good efforts when I finally get home tonight.

    • Rick Hill

      Ah, now. You’ve had enough. Give that to me, I’ll finish it for you. Now, go look out the window….see all those people out there? Thousands…millions…maybe even a billion and they’re all angry and appalled at what happened. Take strength from them and help forge a new resistance. C’mon! You can do it!!

      (window is obviously metaphorical device meaning the interwebs)

    • CountryClubRefugee

      Everyone at work thinks I’m drinking water right now.

      • Sean McLaren

        if you were drinking water they’d probably think you were drunk

    • I would be joining you Cally, but they keep telling me i’m not allowed to drink at work

    • Pinkham’s Law

      You get no shade from me. Did you see the pic I posted yesterday of my breakfast?
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/defab90396d9f575dbd34ce26c28bcb9a41ca6aeb47adc1ecdcc63b1bf01329f.jpg

    • Michael Smith

      I’m also doing that.

  • Sean McLaren
    • Jennifer R

      Well he already said the first amendment is out the window.

      • TX Taco Truck Brigade

        It just now occurred to me that America is respected all over the world because of the first amendment and not the 2nd amendment. The right thinks that’s so bloody sacred, and yet the first amendment is the reason so many people immigrate here (legally or illegally). You never hear furriners talking about how great we are cause we get to have boom sticks. Obvious, I know, but just a thought.

    • Serai 1

      NOT SURPRISED. They’re the same cowards that cancelled Book of Daniel, an incredibly good series, because a handful of fundies whined about it. No stones at all over there.

    • Rick Hill

      NBC has been in the tank for trump. This reminds me, he said he would do the apprentice from the oval office. Srsly

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        We could have our first reality show following around the POTUS! How exciting!

  • Robert L. Meiners

    Putin Worry This Tiny Army Could Defeat Russia, Usa, In New World War

    http://is1sprepare.win/

    It’s the finest risk global protection has ever confronted.
    All the weapons in the entire world received’t matter when this small army kick into equipment.
    It’s presently verified its well worth when it demolished an military practically 40x their size in battlefield.
    Find out how they did it here.It was not their excellent coaching, or elite skills that assisted them.
    Eyewitnesses assert users of this military act like gentlemen possessed, as if they ended up beneath a Devilish spell.
    But listed here’s the backbone-chilling minimize: an ancient “end of the globe” prophecy talks about the coming of an unstoppable military led by an unholy pressure, that will fight and destroy 80 armies.

    • boyblue123

      huh? what is this gibberish?

      • Jamoche

        Babble to slip past any spam filters.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        I literally don’t know if they’re trying to warn us about a Putin world takeover, Donald trying to end the world, or Putin and Donald are secretly married. Can anyone translate Russian?

    • Major_Major_Major

      Of faecal matter which for to us thee typed, making words but not sentences coherence.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Improved upfisted by words other comment cannot be.

    • sw19headlessvoteperson

      rusian troll is intern. not too good the robot for making open .win falsely.

    • Anna Rompage

      Hey Bob, does Putin’s cock really taste like Donald’s ass, or is that just a rumor?

    • BeachBum

      Yet, still, we get no good recipes or pics of Natasha.
      Boris, are you gonna make us wait for cheap Ruski vodka ?
      Dosvadanyia MF !

    • Sean McLaren

      Sir, you’re name sounds so Midwestern USA, I am immediately and uncontrollably driven to trust and listen to you

    • UnsaltedSinner
    • Serai 1
    • doktorzoom

      Bye, spammer.

  • Resistance Fighter MausFeet

    Is it don’t have to be sober anymore o’clock yet? it must be somewhere.

  • tegrat

    It is the duty of those with privilege to protect those without. I gladly accept this duty. We are Wonkaderos. Expect us.

  • Homestar

    Thank you, Robyn. I needed this perspective.

  • rosenbomb

    We don’t need the government to change things, and we never have. We don’t need the president to agree with us in order to call a bigot a bigot. Every battle fought in the interest of equality and fairness has been fought without the approval or interest of the government and those in charge. Sure, it’s easier with that seal of approval — and yes, a lot of the hurt and pain we are feeling right now is made so much worse because we started to think we were close to not having to fight quite as hard — but they need that more than we do. They need societal approval more than we do, because they are weak.

    First cry of the day. Can’t believe I made it this long…

    • CourseZombie

      Hell yeah! My CO rep (Re-elected!!) contacted me by email today and I’m going to do my best to swallow my introversion and get out there and start working!

      • rosenbomb

        Good for you! I’m signed up to volunteer at some events in December for a women’s and children’s shelter, and I want to keep doing more.

  • Nasty Granny

    Ladies and Gentlemen and Wonkeratti, what we need right now is the late great Elaine Stritch. https://youtu.be/CFzmVYNItjU

  • Truly Madly Derply

    Say, does anyone else remember how they called us/Obama “WINNERS” in 2008 and 2012? Yeah, me fucking neither. Ever notice how the only people who actually refer to themselves as winners are, in fact, the most deplorable dickass losers imaginable?

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      They are so hypocritical. They seriously don’t see the difference between a fascist and a black man. Wow.

      • Truly Madly Derply

        They don’t know the diff between Fascism and Socialism. Or asses and elbows.

        • Also too, shit and shinola

          • Kavefish

            …turds and turd blossoms.

      • Serai 1

        Well, the two are not mutually exclusive, after all.

        http://i1.wp.com/ukzambians.co.uk/home/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/idi-amin-uganda.jpg

        But yeah, it’s pretty stupid to think Obama is anything like Trump at all.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          I just meant a generic black man. Not trying to imply black people can’t be like that. Like if it was between a black man they knew nothing about and a white fascist they knew nothing about, they’d pick the fascist. They also act like calling Trump a fascist is the same thing as calling Obama the n-word.

          • Serai 1

            Ah, of course. Bozos.

    • ThirdAmendmentMan

      And now they’re demanding that Democrats work with the GOP to do stuff.

      Ummmmmm, lol wat

  • IOnlyLikeCats

    People are calling on the electoral college to go faithless, but I genuinely don’t believe it can happen. It’s going to fail. Our democracy has failed its very purpose.

    • Thanksgiving Loki

      If the election was close, then we could get some faithless electors. But there’s no way they can flip that many electors.

      • Serai 1

        That’s no reason not to try.

    • Jennifer R

      It’s purpose was to let land holding white people decide. I think it actually worked as intended. Of course it is shit and should be burned to the ground, but it factually worked.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        I disagree. This is not what Alexander Hamilton was going for, maybe Thomas Jefferson, but Alexander was deeply involved in the framework.

        • Jennifer R

          Sadly I think authorial intent doesn’t matter here any more than in many other places.

    • UnsaltedSinner

      That would be a travesty, just as it would have been a travesty if those knuckleheads in Oregon had blocked a Clinton win. You don’t change the rules one minute before the game is over. It may be technically legal, but it would be a betrayal of the public trust. The election was fought under the assumption that the electors will vote for the candidate who won their state, and that’s what they should do. Otherwise, all confidence in your electoral system would be smashed to pieces.

      • Serai 1

        Oh, mine was smashed to pieces in 2000. And I’m tired of us being the ones who always lose because we’re too good to fight dirty.

        • UnsaltedSinner

          William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

          Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

          William Roper: Yes, I’d cut down every law in England to do that!

          Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ’round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man’s laws, not God’s! And if you cut them down, and you’re just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake!

          • Serai 1

            We’re not talking about breaking the law, are we?

          • UnsaltedSinner

            Unwritten laws can be just as important as the written ones. And if everything is just a massive fight where anything goes, liberals will lose, because right-wingers are better at fighting dirty. They have the army and the police on their side, and they’ll use them if you give them an excuse. That’s why you should cling to the rules, both written and unwritten, as if your life depended on them. Because it does.

          • Serai 1

            That’s fine so long as it’s an unwritten rule we like. What about the unwritten rules THEY like? Who’s going to choose which ones we adhere to?

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        I think those are two completely different situations and you are making a false equivalency. No, the electoral college is a system designed to prevent fascism or particularly stupid presidents. People would be mad because their choices wasn’t “good enough” and they’d cry oligarchy, but they probably wouldn’t mean it. In that way, this system has enabled a fascism in the way a straight democracy wouldn’t have. Perhaps we *are* smarter than the Founders realized.

        • UnsaltedSinner

          Whatever the founders intended, it’s an undeniable fact that the electoral college has never been used to block a winner in that way. It’s just not been done. And as horrified as we are at the prospect of a Trump presidency, we don’t actually know yet how bad it will be. If he turns out to be a fascist, you may have to resort to extraordinary means to stop him, but we don’t know that yet. And you need to make sure before you turn to extreme measures.

          Think how you would feel if the Republicans pulled that shit on Clinton. You would call it a coup d’etat, and with good reason. It would completely ruin any faith Americans have in your entire system, meaning that all future elections would be considered illegitimate by about half the electorate. And given the partisan divide there would be no way to create a new or better one – probably not without a civil war, anyway. Keep in mind that Republicans were already fantasizing about armed insurrection if Clinton won fair and square. How do you think they would react if they saw Trump being robbed? And if they resorted to violence, a considerable portion of the country would feel that they held the moral high ground.

          It’s not worth it. It just isn’t. As bad as the Trump presidency is likely to be, it need not be the end of your democracy. There’s an excellent chance that voters will hound him from office in four years, and Republicans in Congress may pay a heavy price for supporting him. Block him now, with dirty means, and it could very well mean the death of American democracy. Hunker down, fight back with the traditional political means you have at your disposal, and you will come out of this crisis as the moral and political winners. This is your time to shine, to show to the country that you are better than the Republicans. You can’t blow it. You just can’t. Right now, you are those “better angels” Lincoln talked about, and you have to rise to that challenge.

          [Insert Yoda quote here.]

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Clinton has not displayed an ignorance and disrespect for the Constitution, POC, religions not Christianity and women. It’s the same situation. A rapey fraudster is exactly the type of person the electoral college is for and that doesn’t change because you keep false equivocating. Clinton is a qualified candidate who has not engaged in blatantly criminal activity, admitted to it, then says no one can charge them.

          • UnsaltedSinner

            You think Republicans couldn’t come up with reasons to overturn an election won by Clinton, reasons that sound just as convincing to them as yours do to you? You open that door, anyone can walk through it. And Trump will have been proven right: The election really was rigged.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Reasons just as convincing?? There’s not a whole lot of things as convincing as an alleged rapist who was accused by 15 women, one of whom had 2 eyewitnesses, thousands of cases against him, mostly about skipping bills and defrauding people, the admission from the candidate he sexually assaults people, him being against minorities (who are Americans), who says things against the peaceful right to assemble, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press, colluded with the Russian government, doesn’t want to abide by the second amendment, and currently has fraud cases against him. This isn’t opening a can of worms, this is a special circumstance where the system needs to be used as intended. Nothing you say is an argument against that, it’s just more “both sides”.

    • Kavefish

      Yeah, I think I was grasping at straw votes, earlier today, thinking about this. Maybe for a minor correction of a vote or two, but not with the gap as it stands.

  • Rick Hill

    Amazing Robyn, after the doom and gloom, you put the Grrr in talented, kickass writer!!

    (That’s how it goes, right? Grrr in….something something)

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
  • chascates

    Robyn Pennacchia is the best writer Wonkette ever had! That was fantastic. I feel better and more energized having read it.

    • AnOuthouse

      Evan libelz!

      • chascates

        True, we have many ‘best’ writers here. Dok is a longtime favorite and our Editrix of course. We’re lucky.

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          We’re gonna need this luck.

  • TX Taco Truck Brigade
  • Resistance Fighter Astraea

    Fox News propaganda machine is in full force
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR_7BYflal4

    • AnOuthouse

      Fuck them.

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        Already on it.
        – Jared Kushner, CEO, TrumpTV

  • Ralph Edington

    Thank you Robyn! I think that is the most encouraging thing I’ve read or heard since the bad news broke!!! I will remember your words… XOXOXXO

  • DoILookAmused2u ?
    • Nasty Suffragette

      This picture made me smile and cry at the same time. But mostly cry.

      • I know if i was that lady with the baby backpack i would be a sobbing mess of apology at Hillary. And i’m Canadian

        • JHan

          Me too :( I would kneel and beg forgiveness for all the idiots.

        • Shibusa

          The Shibusas are giving serious thought to a move to Canada. It will be tough to leave southern CA though.

          • Well, if the West coast goes full secession, i’m pretty sure we’d be willing to take you in.

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            I’m going to Mexico. Now. Soon. Before the fall.

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            Move to Vancouver. You might not even notice the change.

          • Shibusa

            I know. It’s gorgeous there. Mr. Shibusa’s entire family is in Ontario though.

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            Ontario has its points. Especially once you get out of sight of Toronto and its exurbs.

    • JHan

      awwww

    • jwtukker

      A shih-tzu! I love it! Wait. Maybe not. Still damn cute.

    • Serai 1

      Good to know she’s doing alright. Out enjoying nature, the best thing to do to recharge.

    • Tacoclamgenda

      yet another example of just how amazing Hillary is

  • Kavefish

    I’ve been binge Wonkette reading/commenting (…sorry… :::blush::: …) because I can’t sleep.

    But the last four graphs of this hit me with a jolt of recognition and relief and have really helped. I got a little choked up from it, too, and that’s also welcome for the safety valve release.

    Thanks.

    • Serai 1

      This place is a haven of sanity.

      (Psst. My problem is I don’t EAT. I sit here with a big empty space yawning in my stomach. I gotta start making myself eat, I swear.)

      • Kavefish

        :::nods:::

        Thanks for the reminder.

        :::trundles off to kitchen:::

  • SayItWithWookies

    Winners? Fuck, Trump voters aren’t winners any more than someone who just bought a timeshare in a central Florida swampland is a winner. But they’ll find out soon enough — two years from now, when we’re all strapped to plows and trading seashells for money, they’ll be blaming Obama.

    • OrG

      Thanks,Obama.

      • The Big Mick

        thanks for what? record numbers out of the work force, more americans in poverty, more on foodstamps, household income stagnant, ObamaCrap melt down, sky rocketing premiums, triple the wars of W. Bacha Bazi BOy-google it–truly had the BMidas Touch–parse it out. You can thank his campaigning for your Trump whitehouse and GOP Congress.
        Or is merely pointing out his total failure, especially for the Black Community, Racist de facto? All I can say is that if BlackoOPs BO is YOUR President he sucked at it. Or is it Racist to simply point out the facts of a failed Presidency on the grounds he is black?

    • The Big Mick

      Feel free to get back to me in two years, Commiequeer.

      • jwtukker

        Oh shit. Somebody left the basement door unlocked again.

        • OrG

          Or maybe forgot to unlock it.

        • Serai 1

          Yeah, we’ve got a Cuckroach crawling around here. Somebody get the Raid!

          • OrG

            HAHA!Cuckroach.Me likey!

      • Notreelyhelping

        Fuck. Not interested in getting back to you in 20 minutes.

      • Serai 1

        AWWWWWW.

        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Serai/Comment%20pics/butthurt%20report%20form.jpg

        Be sure to fill it out completely, now! You wouldn’t want to miss out on your coupons for diaper rash cream.

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        Is “commiequeer” supposed to be an insult? If you were actually any good at this, you’d realize how proud we are to be called names by visiting simps.

      • SayItWithWookies

        You’re here to elevate the discourse, I see.

  • Reality Kills

    Sorry guys but for the next next 4 years you are going hear me a lot in here saying this: FUCK YOU DONALD!

    • Ryan Denniston
      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        I want one of Professor Frink’s auto-diallers, so I can set it up to auto-dial the WH every day for the next four years with that sound clip.

  • anon_the_great

    So this is what it feels like to be a Liberal German circa 1933.

    • Serai 1

      Oh, yeah. Except they didn’t have the internet.

  • The Big Mick

    Ahh the joys of Schadenfrude, when all the right people are in pain.

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      Yes, enjoy your gloating while you can. It will take you some time to fully comprehend the enormity of your mistake, and exactly how badly you just got used.

      • satanscheerleadersloveamerica

        No, it will never understand. Even when the shit hits the fan with maximum capacity it will not be their fault. Irredeemable fuckwits. The lot of them.

    • Michael Smith

      Pain shouldn’t be the goal. I thought Trump wanted to make America great again.. why do his supporters want so much to make so many people afraid? Is that greatness? I mean I get mocking your opponents and feeling vindicated. I’m human. But please try to understand that no one was or is out to get you. Any abuse you hurl is your own responsibility.

      • It’s like how they point to people being on food stamps as a failure. To them, more people starving is a success. So is more pain. They’re just hateful assholes.

    • Serai 1

      Yeah, because YOU sure wouldn’t indulge in that, right?

      Go home, troll.

      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Serai/Comment%20pics/gifs/dance/dance%20-%20banana%20majorette.gif

      • I’m sorry, you were saying something? My mind kinda blanked for a mo…

      • Kavefish

        Oh, hey… there’s actually *writing* on the back of that jacket. Was it always there?

    • OrG

      Weak,sad,low energy.Come on junior, is that the best ya got?

  • Reality Kills

    FUCK YOU GULIANI!
    FUCK YOU PALIN!
    FUCK YOU GINGRISH!
    FUCK YOU ASSANGE!
    FUCK YOU PUTIN!
    FUCK YOU KAYANNE!
    FUCK YOU BANNON!
    FUCK YOU IVANKA!

    What a fucking team!

  • Ryan Denniston

    “Yes, Donald Trump has “empowered” these people — but I think they’re in for a rude awakening when they discover that who the president is doesn’t really count for much in their daily lives where they have to interact with people who are not Donald Trump.”

    Fuck yeah! This is the first time since Tuesday that I actually feel good. The next four years will suck, but we can fix it, and we can start by actively managing our day-to-day lives to make things better for everyone around us.

    • CourseZombie

      I finally achieved food by ordering a pizza.

    • satanscheerleadersloveamerica

      next two four and six are fixable despite the damage that will be done. Its the 30-40 year span I’m really worried about.

  • venezia59

    They are not gracious winners either! I can’t tell you how many times today on Facebook some asshole Trumpette told me to “get over it and quit whining–we won, and you lost—nyah nyah”. They were white males too. Hmm. Coincidence?

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I probably would not have been a gracious winner. But not to anyone’s faces directly. Also to, we’re on the side of good and not evil.

      • venezia59

        I know, but it hurt my feelings.

    • Rick Hill

      One of the asshats who told me “Bush won the second time with a majority! That’s the will and it needs to be accepted.” Made a point to always say Obama was not his president, blah blah blah

    • Yr. Gma

      Why are you still reading Facebook?

      • Facebook is what you make it. Delete the Trumpers and deadenders and join half a dozen secret Hillary groups, and it suddenly becomes a comforting place.

      • venezia59

        I’m a masochist.

    • Serai 1

      They don’t deserve any thought. Just ban them. Life’s too short to drink bad wine.

      • venezia59

        Oh, I dunno. Bad wine has its uses, like on red-eye flights and at the dentist’s. But you’re right. These aren’t actual friends of mine. They’re friends of friends of friends that spread like a virus, and because I’m a know-it-all and a writer (but I repeat myself), I just get sucked in trying to educate the fools. And yes, I do know how “elitist” that sounds. But you know when the Trumpettes complain about the “elites”–they’re not pissed about people who have more money and power, they’re pissed at people who are smarter than they are. Especially women.

        • Serai 1

          I have no problem at all with the word “elite”. I guess that’s because I don’t use it as a synonym for “people who make me feel stupid”.

  • Reality Kills

    Donald’s cabinet is going to sound like out a fucking circus! US is going to a circus for the next four years.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Obama had a team of rivals. Donald will have the team of freaks.

      • Aww…that seems kinda mean to the regular show attractions. They seemed nice in that XFiles episode

        • Reality Kills

          Funny! X- Files is fav show ever! But I agree with the sentiment!

        • Michael Smith

          Such a good episode.

          • Thiazin Red

            That one scared me so much.

          • For me…that was the pyro guy from season 1 and Home. And look, Home’s family would have been trumpies too!

          • Thiazin Red

            I can not listen to Wonderful Wonderful without thinking of Home and getting a little bit scared.

            I was rewatching the one with the pyro guy, and its hard to believe Mark Sheppard was so young and skinny.

    • Rick Hill

      He’s got Newt. Newt s going to advise him how to use his office to get revenge. Seriously, that’s frightening

      • Ryan Denniston

        I still think director of NASA would be a tremendous distraction. To the moon Alice!

    • Ryan Denniston

      It’s 1984. Everything will be Orwellian. Climate change deniers in charge of the EPA, Rudy fucking Giuliani as AG. Christie in charge of Justice.

      • Thiazin Red

        Hes going to stop corruption by appointing a guy who had to drop out of a campaign because he used taxpayer money to pay for his affair, and someone who is most likely going to be on trial for corruption soon.

      • Ryan Denniston

        Oooooh! Palin at Interior!

        • TX Taco Truck Brigade

          I made that joke on Tuesday and then somebody yesterday posted that’s apparently a real possibility. Poe strikes again.

        • Shan

          Something in communications I should think.

          • Ryan Denniston

            Press secretary? AHAHAHA!

          • Shan

            *snerk*

          • alpacapunchbowl

            Oh please let this happen!

      • Ryan Denniston

        No wait! Christie at DoT!

      • Notreelyhelping

        Oh. You mean like the 80s.

    • Reality Kills

      Listen to this list:

      Rudy Guiliani
      Sarah Palin
      Chris Christy
      Vladimir Putin
      Kellyanne Conway
      Her husband, the FBI director
      Steve Bannon
      Ivanka Trump

      How does that sound?

      Oh, god!

  • Sean McLaren

    When Chris Hayes is RTing Franz Fannon, we really are through the looking glass

    https://twitter.com/tamaranopper/status/796443052692881410

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Who is Frantz Fanon?

    • Ryan Denniston

      Hadn’t read this specific passage as far as I know. Thanks!

    • shaar dula

      teach. that’s the operative word here. but this assumes a certain level of self awareness, humility and interest in improving self amongst us commons.

      as it stands, everybody and their uncle is self-righteously cocksure about what is right.

      as it stands confidence, even if misplaced, is sexy and self-awareness and doubt are not.

      so there’s that.

  • psychobroad

    Thanks, Robyn!

  • Rick Hill

    A little humor, Seinfeld style:
    http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/arOgRgV_460sv.mp4

    (Sorry, Discuss doesn’t let you post these so you can see it here. gotta clicken it)

  • goonemeritus

    Hitler after rising to Chancellor in 1933 made the same point.

  • DoILookAmused2u ?

    Putin calls for a new era of “fully fledged Russia/US relations”. His aid says “maybe we helped a bit w/ WikiLeaks.”

    • idiotboy

      You know who else made nice with Russia for a few fun years?

      • AnOuthouse

        FDR?

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        Pierre Trudeau, but to be fair, they were those rather nice Communists, not the psychopaths in charge today.

  • Markuserektus
    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      No, this is too sad :(

    • TX Taco Truck Brigade

      Does Chris Christie count?

      • Markuserektus

        Depends on his loyalty…

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        Is he housebroken?

    • DoILookAmused2u ?

      I don’t trust people who don’t like dogs.

      • Thiazin Red

        Or just don’t like animals, that creeps me out.

      • satanscheerleadersloveamerica

        but, I trust dogs that don’t like people

    • Reality Kills

      Bo is really cute. Never forget Kennedy was the one that suggested that breed!

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      It’s okay, I’m sure Donnie will do all the necessary shitting on the carpet.

  • Anna Rompage

    I thought my spirit had hit rock bottom Wed morning when I woke up and saw that my biggest fears had come true. Today, with all the news coming in from around the nation of Trump supporters harassing minorities, I am finding that pit is much deeper than I had originally thought and ever expected it to be.

    I know we have to go high, when they go low and we need to stand up and fight. That day will come soon for me, but for the time being, I feel like I just want to crawl into bed and never come out…

    • Do what you must. And when you’re ready, I’ll have your sword and shield.

    • Michael Smith

      We have to stand up and fight because we have the power of sight.

    • Shibusa

      I don’t know anything about the minority harassment. I have imposed a media blackout on myself. I’m too angry about all of it…

      • idiotboy

        Yes my wife comes home and turns on the news and I put on the headphones. I will read the news for the next four years, I cannot listen to him or any repub lawmakers.
        Unless the Wonkette tells me to of course.

    • venezia59

      In my city (Rochester NY), vandals burned the rainbow flags on two gay couples’ houses right after Trump was elected. This is a liberal city with a high gay population, and this shit just doesn’t happen here. Or didn’t.

  • jwtukker

    All right! Robyn FTW!

  • BeachBum

    I wonder what the Trump voters in OH,WI,PA and elsewhere will do when the Chinese/Mexican jobs he “brings back” don’t pay $150-$200 K with healthcare ? Average Chinese factory job pays $27.50 a day for a 12 hour day. Of course the GOP will cut out safety net programs to pay for tax cuts for the rich. Then what ?http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21646180-rising-chinese-wages-will-only-strengthen-asias-hold-manufacturing-tightening-grip

    • Thiazin Red

      And they’ve removed the “job killing” minimum wage, safety regulations and ability to bargain collectively.

      • YoNastyBunny

        Well, they’re boot-strapping Real Americans who know the value of a hard day’s work. They don’t need that. All that stuff is for lazy, limp-wristed, faggy libruls.

    • almaalum

      That’s what I keep telling people. How much are you willing to pay for that iPhone? I was very proud when my 13-year old texted me to say that she was the only one in her class who the answer to where all the jobs have gone? They didn’t go to China, they didn’t go to Mexico – they went to technology! They’re gone! Figure something else – low-level manufacturing isn’t coming back!

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        There are dozens of factories sitting empty in Erie PA, factories that made things from cast iron or steel or brass, factories that haven’t seen a machine tool in decades. The owners don’t tear them down or repurpose them because they are so SURE that the manufacturers are going to come back any day now and put the tools back. And so they sit empty and rotting while people like a friend of mine are trying to use all that space for, you know, NEW ideas.

    • AnOuthouse

      12 Hours? When do I have time to sit on my ass and do oxycontin?

    • Truthiness2U

      Then they blame women. Or black people or Hispanics or Jews. That’s the way these guys operate. Remember, though they are incapable of it, they are never to blame for anything. Shouldn’t be held accountable for anything, and shouldn’t bear any cost.

    • georgiaburning

      So you pay OH and PA people $27.50 a day to make stuff. Of course, they won’t afford to buy any of it.

      Henry Ford wasn’t a nice guy but he figured that paying enough to create a middle class would let capitalism survive in the 20th century. Stalin figured out the same thing so he killed off his middle class.

  • JVisconti

    Dear Trump voters:
    Sorry that the Escalade or McMansion ownership (with colored help) and 2 weeks at Atlantis didn’t happen for you under Obama’s reign, but there will be many coal mine jobs available soon. Or you could have voted for the person advocating for higher education opportunities.

    • DoILookAmused2u ?

      Coal is dead in W VA pretty much. Not much of that work there, and it’s not coming back.

      • JVisconti

        Informed people understand the economics of a thankfully dying, polluting industry. That is why I addressed Trump voters b/c I’m snarky.

        • Señor Skwerl!

          According to supply-side you dig up all the coal and somebody will buy it for a premium price because that’s how it works.

          • georgiaburning

            Yes, you should see the prices for buggy whips and blunderbuss muskets on ebay

    • Nah, no coal jobs, but there will be plenty of jobs available picking crops after Trump deports all the Mexicans.

      • Kooolest G

        I thought that’s what we had slaves, I mean prison labor for

        • YoNastyBunny

          Same diff. Only a matter of rounding ’em up first, amiright???

      • Serai 1

        Yep! $2 an hour for 12 hours a day of backbreaking work in the hot sun with no water, no shade, and no protection from the noxious chemicals being sprayed.

        But hey, Trump tells it like it is!

    • tehbaddr

      Escalades? They’re a more an F-150 kinda crowd!

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        F-150 libel!

  • Reality Kills

    Listen to this list:

    Rudy Guiliani
    Sarah Palin
    Chris Christy
    Vladimir Putin
    Kellyanne Conway
    Her husband, the FBI director
    Steve Bannon
    Ivanka Trump

    How does that sound?

    Someone one bomb us!

  • Ryan Denniston

    When West Virginia coal mining jobs don’t come back, come back and talk to me in 4 years.

    • Reality Kills

      Oh, I am keep repeating that for the next four years!

    • Yr. Gma

      He’s gonna be busy with his magic wand.

    • The thing is, the coal jobs won’t come back for reasons that have nothing to do with “regulation!” and “big government interference!” They were disappearing anyway because of mechanization, and now, coal isn’t cost competitive with alternatives like natural gas. Add in that wind and solar costs have dropped drastically, the international market has dried up (they believe in climate change), and you’re not going to see those mines suddenly booming again. That’s in addition to the little problem that there’s only about 25 years of coal left in the state.

      • Rick Hill

        Even China is regulating their coal industry because of heavy polution

        • YoNastyBunny

          Yeah, at the grad school where I work, we get a lot of Chinese national students in the international environment policy program. And a lot of their admissions essays are about wanting to go back home and work on air quality/pollution issues.

      • Ryan Denniston

        Exactly.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        West Virginians have been speaking wistfully of the day the coal jobs come back for 30 years. I first heard it when I moved to Southern WV in 1993, 10 years after the coal companies started moving on. The exact same bullshit. If only the Ballenger Bill passed, and MSHA was gone, they could Go Underground again, and all would be well with the world.

        I sat next to Ken Hechler — who was then the WV Secretary of State — on a flight from DC to Charleston. He said point blank that coal was done, and the greatest challenge facing West Virginia wasn’t replacing coal jobs, but rather convincing West Virginians that coal jobs needed to be replaced. That was in 1996.

      • tehbaddr

        But, but, my father and his father before him got black lung working for the company!1!1!!!111!1!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!!1!!!!111111!11!!!!

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          It still amazes me that people can possibly look back on those days with nostalgia.

  • Shan

    Has anyone seen Anna Elizabeth around or heard from her lately?

    • I talk to her regularly via e-mail. She’s okay, she’s safe.

      • Tacoclamgenda

        Wait, am I mixing folks up?!? Shit I do that with people in the non-peopleish Wonkette world but still.

      • Shan

        Ok good. I emailed her, too, a little bit ago.

        • Idaho4644

          Please tell her we miss her on here.

          • Shan

            I will. She answered.

    • Tacoclamgenda

      … my mix-up..

      • Rick Hill

        Ok, could we all go back to the original names for awhile? I seriously knew about 60% of youse guys from who you were and the vagendas and nasties are too much for my small brain.

        • Tacoclamgenda

          I’ve been meaning to since Tuesday when mine lost any humor. I’ve been grief lazy.

  • in the name of the moon

    tinfoil hat out? k. what of Rs delayed Garland because they knew they’d win. Remember how Trump projects, and kept saying it’s rigged.

    • Kavefish

      I know.

      It’s really weird when *that* part of your brain activates and makes you wonder, especially as little bits of information drip out like possible collusion between the FBI and the Trump campaign, etc., etc.,

      • CourseZombie

        Don’t forget Russia and Wikileaks

    • CourseZombie

      I don’t think it’s a tin foil hat – I agree completely and said it on another thread somewhere. They’ve been building this machine for Obama’s long 8 years. The Republicans knew they’d never win with Obama’s popularity numbers, so they used the FBI, groomed Hitler Jr., and colluded with Russia on WikiLeaks so they could bring the Democrats down for good. Make no mistake, our government HAS been infiltrated. Remember, ALWAYS projection with them. They invited the Russians in because they knew they’d never win on their own.

      I just don’t know what the hell we can do about it.

    • georgiaburning

      Maybe it is rigged, but maybe we (including me) could’ve done more in off-year elections to keep the Senate. Dems lost 6 seats in 2010, 9 in 2014. (Yes we picked up 2 in 2012 with Obama’s re-election) We’ve got to take all elections seriously.

  • I finally watched Hillary’s concession speech, and ugly cried. Honestly, Bill Clinton’s face in the background got to me as much or more than what she was saying. He looked like he was seconds away from bawling almost the whole time — probably because as a former president and Hillary’s husband, he knows exactly what’s coming and exactly what we could have had, better than probably anyone else could. I feel your pain, Bill.

    • Apple Scruff

      And also Huma. She looked distraught.

      • Poor Huma. She’s had a hell of a year.

        • Thiazin Red

          If anyone deserves the longest best vacation, its her.

        • CourseZombie

          Every one of them has gotten up, stuck a smile on their face and went out and fought for us. They deserve every bit of peace they can get right now. We’ll need them again, fighting for us.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        She’s probably afraid the assholes and ignoramuses will have her arrested and thrown in jail. Or deported.

    • Serai 1

      He must be heartbroken for her. Probably in a worse state than she is.

    • AnOuthouse

      He should. He’s the reason she lost.

  • Reality Kills

    That fucking pig lied all his way to the presidency.

    • mackafritz

      And people knew he was lying and voted for him anyway.

      • Reality Kills

        You know, I do believe most of his supporters believe him. Even Don believed himself.

      • Rick Hill

        Because they wanted to choose integrity

        • YoNastyBunny

          They just can’t trust Hillary…

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      And then his claims to want to govern responsibly were earnestly reported as if they are any more true than any other fucking thing he has said.

      • Kavefish

        It’s like living in surreal land on an island made of surrs and then reals all the way down.

    • YoNastyBunny

      This election really confirmed for the world that US America is NOT as committed to honesty, inclusiveness and fairness as we have always said we are*. All the countries that have criticized us for intervening in other countries for allegedly not being committed to “Democratic principles”, are rightfully thinking that we’re a bunch of opportunistic hypocrites. Who the fuck is going to take our commitment to democracy seriously after this catastrophe? We have literally lost whatever moral standing that we’ve claimed to have. Yeah, the rest of the word is going to look to the country with the sleezy, fraudster, thrice-married, lying, spray tanning, hair weaving, rapey racist President for leadership. Right…

      *This is the royal “we”… I don’t mean us Wonkeratti.

    • Thiazin Red

      But calling lies lies is taking a side, and we can’t do that, balance.

      • YoNastyBunny

        Yes, the proper nomenclature verbiage is “He said some things, which some dispute the validity of.”

        • Msgr_Moment

          I prefer lying sack of shit, but YMMV.

    • tehbaddr

      Yes and no. He led the majority of a country’s ignorant voting populace to buy into his shit, which was right in line with their own backwards thoughts!

    • Serai 1

      The fact that he’s a liar may be the only thing that keeps this from turning into full-blown Final Solution insanity. What makes you think he didn’t lie to the fucking wingnuts who backed him?

  • Brian
    • Thiazin Red

      I can’t read the concession email, I just can’t yet.

      • Apple Scruff

        It’s basically the speech she made so if you saw that, you’re good.

        • CourseZombie

          I read her email, but haven’t watched the video yet. Not sure when I’ll be ready to. Still too raw. But it’s awesome to see here up there enjoying a walk with her dog. She deserves that.

          • Serai 1

            I sincerely doubt she’s going to sit back and smell the roses. She’ll be back up soon enough, working for all of us just as she always has.

          • Truthiness2U

            Given that Jason Chaffetz has promised to still go after her, and what a shitshow the Justice department and Judicial branch will be once Trump is in charge…maybe she should just chill in Switzerland, and try and help the world from there.

            Exile –it should just be for albino-rapists who fuck up the entire world, anymore.

          • cosmiccowgirl

            I haven’t been able to watch it either.

          • Bec Jenn

            I haven’t either. I’ve been pretty much avoiding all news sites. Wonkette is the only site I’ve really visited because it offers me a place to share my grief.

    • JVisconti

      Is that Donna Rose, no the young one. She gets around. And why does Hilz have Socks the cat on a leash.

      • tehbaddr

        Is not cat, is fluffy littles dog Amrikan Idiot!

    • Cheesus Crust

      Hillary deserves a long vacation to relax and then the rest of her life to enjoy her grandchildren. This woman crawled through broken glass, 30 years of endless mudslinging and investigations, having her personal life exploded all over the TV and numerous other things – to make our lives better, and we let her down.

      She helped make this world a better place… even through, what I am sure were, the darkest days in her life. She is not perfect, but I never once doubted that she cared.

      Hillary, we are sorry. We love you, we will miss you and you have earned the right to never have to deal with any of this bullshit again; the right to a peaceful, out of the spotlight, existence.

      • Shan

        That Samantha Bee ep where she chronicled Hillary’s Arkansas “transformation” to proper Governor’s wife really made me sad. Even in the interviews, she had an AR accent. And she put her hair away. It was good hair.

      • Michael Smith

        One of the most important people in our history. History will treat her better than her contemporaries. Cold comfort that is.. but such sometimes is the lot of trailblazers.

    • tehbaddr

      Nice to see her smiling, I don’t know how I could iffin I was in her shoes!

      • Truthiness2U

        She’s a stronger, and better woman than I am. Because fuck those guys for the 30 years of crap they slung at her, and she still kept trying to make things better.

  • Reality Kills

    The Dictator Donald Adi Dada is going to be saluting women from other countries by grabbing them by the pussy.

    • Shit…did he watch Baron Cohen’s The Dictator for ideas?

  • Apple Scruff

    I can’t remember if I posted this here yet, but there’s this petition:

    Electoral College: Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19 — https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19

    It’s gotten an additional 250,000 signatures in just the past hour (it’s fun refreshing the page to see the number go up!)

    • NastyBosGrl

      Signed!

      • Apple Scruff

        You know, I was thinking something… if something really bad comes out of this Trump U case on the 28th, then they Electoral College can use it as an excuse to go for Hillary.

        • Kavefish

          Yep!

    • Kavefish

      But isn’t the spread too great to be bridged?

      Hmmm… mebbe I go take a look?

      • Apple Scruff

        Not sure what you mean by spread? Do you mean the 1,500,000 number? It’s not like a goal or anything, it’s more like a sign post. That number was only 1,000,000 an hour ago, but then it was surpassed, so it went up to 1,500,000.

        • Kavefish

          Oh – by spread I mean the current difference between their EC votes: 228 – 279.

          • Apple Scruff

            Oh, ha! I’m not sure how many states would have to flip. So many were so close. And I still think some of the states haven’t been called. But I’m avoiding the news, so what the hell do I know?

          • Current spread is Trump 306, Clinton 232. At minimum, you’d have to flip Michigan (16), Wisconsin (10) and Pennsylvania (20).

    • Kavefish

      Why doesn’t the petition mention things like the interference of the FBI director and the unresolved issue of how much influence Russia / Putin had on the race as additional reasons to flip the electoral vote? Is the “she had more popular votes” the only legit reason to offer?

      (sorry – probably questions I should be asking whoever set this up. Don’t mean to sound like I’m haranguing you.)

      • Apple Scruff

        No, I agree. We should see if there is a contact on the petition so it can be added in.

  • Shan

    My X just posted that “Bernie Coulda Won” article from WaPo. Ugh.

    • Kavefish

      phooey… :-p

      • Shan

        At least I don’t have to hate him for not voting for Hillary. He held his nose and did it anyway. But he had to go almost all the way to Election Day posting things like “spoon feed me reasons I should vote for HER!”

        • Kavefish

          wow. Drama Duke, much?

          • Shan

            Yeah. I had family members tell me (after we split) they blocked him because of the incessant babble-whine. I got a fair amount of “what were you thinking, anyway?” I had no good answer.

          • Kavefish

            Familiar with being in that situation.

            :::fist-bump:::

          • I get that sometimes when my ex comes up. I just kinda shrug and say “Well, love sometimes makes you stupid, okay?”

          • Serai 1

            GMTA! LOL.

          • Shan

            That’s the sad thing. I didn’t love him. We both deserved better than that so…splitting up was for the best

          • Serai 1

            Hey, love makes you stupid. We’ve all been there. I STILL can’t say my ex’s name out loud, or write it, and it’s been… oh, let’s see… yep, 25 years since we got divorced.

    • UnsaltedSinner

      If Bernie was so formidable, why did he lose the primaries?

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        RIGGED!!!

      • Kavefish

        And if he coulda won the primary, why not run as an independent?

        • Vincent Ricola

          Debbie Wasserman Schultz is why!!!!!1!!1!

          • Kavefish

            (just checking: real outrage, or outrage theater?)

          • Vincent Ricola

            Outrage theater

          • Kavefish

            It was very good.

            “Thank you sir, may I have another?”

      • Rick Hill

        “Bernie is going to take the call at three AM? the only call a guy that old is going to take at 3 AM….”

        Yeah, trump would have been beat by him

        • venezia59

          We Olds have to pee a lot more in the middle of the night. He’d be up.

      • Thiazin Red

        And if the Dems used Republican rules for allocating delegates, it would have been even more of a blowout.

      • Serai 1

        Oh, those were rigged, of course.

    • Hence, “ex”, amirite?

      • Shan

        Among other things, yeah. I will say in his favor that he got me to hone my debate skills. When I wasn’t resisting the urge to smash things.

    • Kooolest G

      I’m actually glad he didn’t get the nomination, the trumpeters being misogynists is gross but not terrifying, that crowd being anti semitic (and you know that’s where it would have ended up) scares the shit out of me

  • JVisconti

    Turkeys everywhere are dreading Donald’s Thanksgiving clemency decision.

  • Notreelyhelping

    I have a scarf that resembles a keffiyeh (it’s actually herringbone). I dig the way it looks with a black leather jacket. Incredibly comfy when it gets cold. Will I wear the combo this winter?

    Bet your ass I will.

    • Kooolest G

      maybe we should all stock up on these http://www.muslimclothing.com/kufi-hats.html I already have one and I definitely plan on wearing it more, especially when I have to leave my liberal bubble in CA

      • Fun with Cthulhu

        OOOH, I love this idea. The Kufis are cool.

      • Serai 1

        Solidarity via clothing! I like it!

        Say, ladies – let’s start a movement of wearing the hijab. If there are a ton of us around, the fuckfaces won’t be able to tell who’s Muslim and who isn’t. It’d be an easy way to fuck with their heads!

    • cynmac’s bigly nasty pussy

      After a break after 9/11, black women have started wearing the head wraps again. And my 7-year old niece wore a hajib to school one day, because her friend wears one. My mother was pissed that my SIL let her do it, but I thought it was cute. And they live in one of the outer suburbs ~ red state.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha6iXTrwzWg

  • Rick Hill

    Anyone remember how, waaaaaay long time ago, last June or so, it was reported that donlad otld NBC that they shouldn’t worry. He could still do The Apprentice from the Oval Office?

    • Ryan Denniston

      Luckily, he has the entire Treasury to loot!

      • Rick Hill

        That’s just seed money for his foreign adventures. He’ll leave a note, pay it back…

      • Thiazin Red

        And I’m sure he would never manipulate foreign policy to help his companies.

    • Kavefish

      Thankfully, no.

      :::grinding teeth:::

      • Rick Hill

        How do you think he will REALLY pick his cabinet? Think of the ratings!

        • shastakoala

          I’m thinking American Idol call in scenario.

        • Kavefish

          Oh, man…

          They should totally do a double-feature series with the Mars One candidate selection show.

          There would be the first pool of contestants, and then when they narrow it down to the number they need to fill all the slots, they do a second round for either “CABINET” or “MARS”

          dun-dun-dunnnnnn,,,

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Hell, why doesn’t he just make his whole presidency one big fucking reality show.

      • Tacoclamgenda

        It already is.

      • Msgr_Moment

        But he only gets to fire Rethug congresscritters, right?

        • Rick Hill

          He’ll have token Dems and assorted asshats that he can make run around like a monkey for the purposes of firing

  • Thiazin Red

    I suppose one silver lining is that the Clinton Foundation can keep doing good around the world and Hillary can be an active part of that.

    • Bec Jenn

      Kinda like all the good that Jimmy Carter did after he was defeated for his second term. He helped at home and abroad and had a long lasting impact on the world. He seemed to come back stronger and with more resolve.

  • Apple Scruff

    I’m sad for Michelle’s White House garden :(

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I think that might piss a bunch of people off even more than any policies they put in place.

      • It will piss Rachel Maddow off, for one. So we’re sure to get updates on it, at least.

      • Serai 1

        Yeah, Michelle’s become a kind of secular Mother Superior To The Nation. A hell of a lot of people hold her sacred.

    • cynmac’s bigly nasty pussy

      It’s like Jimmy Carter’s solar panels. Except I expect that the kitchen staff would make good use of the garden and Trump is so cheap, he may let them keep it. The garden has been fortified with brick walkways and cement curbs, so it isn’t so easy to disassemble.

      • CourseZombie

        It’s also endowed so there is no cost associated with it.

  • Me not sure

    As a white southern male who grew up in the segregated South and lived through the Civil Rights Era I know these people well. When I was nineteen I got to march with Dr.King and see him speak just once before these very types of folks arranged to have him killed. They never acknowledged defeat, they only learned how to put on a civil face and bide their time. They now feel that their time has come and they will be emboldened to act out. Dr. King would be calling for peaceful resistance, but make no mistake, his resistance would be strong and unrelenting. We must dedicate ourselves to do the same.

  • I’ve been going through grief stages the last couple of days and haven’t done much more than incoherent ranting on Twitter and FB. Finally settling in to the “depression” phase.

    But once this is done, I’m going to sit my ass back down in front of my keyboard and keep working on my books. Because I can’t do much, but I can still write stories with diverse characters, and maybe that will count for something in the long run.

    • cynmac’s bigly nasty pussy

      Posted below but repeated. I have moved to a new stage ~ inappropriate laughter. Maybe this will make you smile.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TogGxzlfhM

      • Thiazin Red

        His penis is so distracting in this scene, put on some underwear dude.

        • cynmac’s bigly nasty pussy

          But it’s such a teeny weeny. Not like this one at all.
          https://creationsciencestudy.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/1370902028-wornout-click2.jpg

          • Thiazin Red

            I would like to do a survey of people my age, and determine what percentage’s first crush was David Bowie or Jennifer Connelly.

          • Bowie. Is probably also why riding crops…pique my interest…

          • Msgr_Moment

            Is that from a scary scene like that one in Alien, where the thing “hatches”?

          • cynmac’s bigly nasty pussy

            David Bowie as the Elf King in Labyrinth.

      • Rick Hill

        Awww, jizzus. We used to quote that when we were underway, bobbing around the North Atlantic back in ’81. Forgot all about this bit.

      • jwtukker

        One of my all time favorite scenes. I’ve used it often over the years, beginning with “In the immortal words of Bill Murray …”

    • CourseZombie

      It will, don’t lose heart. We need storytellers more than ever.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      We need all the artists of all types, badly.

    • JVisconti

      Well, you have one character to work with for a sociopathic intrigue novel. Then you can move onto his kids.

      • The almost-funny part is that a couple of years ago, I wrote a near-future SF novel in which the government was being run by completely incompetent free-market fetishists. They had privatized almost everything except active military ops and some bare-bones fed agencies like the FBI/HSA, etc., and cut funding for a lot of essential services.

        When my editor was going through it, she told me she thought it seemed unrealistic that any government would privatize something like the premise of my story (a science company that manages wormhole openings and occasional alien incursions.) I explained that I figured it was something business-minded libertarian sorts with zero government experience might do: Farm out whatever could be farmed out to avoid having to collect taxes and be accountable to voters. She was still skeptical, but she let me go with it.

        I haven’t talked to her since the election (she’s doing a side gig at the county elections office this week), but I suspect that when we do talk again, she just might complain that rather than being unrealistic, I was far too prophetic.

  • BeachBum

    OT The TTP. Most likely we now will not be part of it. Big Mistake. We need the jobs. We would also be leaving the door open for China to eventually dominate 2/3 of the world’s GDP.

    • Thiazin Red

      Then there is the promise Trump made multiple times to just default on the country’s loans.

    • JVisconti

      And when we pull out of the Paris agreement, they will too and we can both go happily our ways blowing smoke.

    • Truthiness2U

      I am so angry at the Alt Left group who were against TPP. It was to try and stave off China from grabbing those markets. And well now we’re no better than China with the environment and human rights, but at the time we were. It would have been a better choice for the world, and those countries.

      But Berners and the like, never got it. Fuck them.

  • Ryan Denniston

    Just got done watching the concession speech. Jesus, I’m still crying. But hey! We get to hear about 2 Corinthians for the next four years amitrite?

    • Shan

      I am probably a bad Wonker for saying this, but I’ve never understood that reference.

      • Me not sure

        Go to your room, young lady!

        • Shan

          FINE but I’m taking someone with me!

          No wait…

          • tehbaddr

            /squirms in seat and raises hand

          • Me not sure

            It had better not be two Corenthians! AND DON’T YOU DARE SLAM THAT DOOR!

          • BeachBum

            A menage a trois ? Excellent ! Parfait !

          • Me not sure

            No thanks, I’ve just eaten.

      • Msgr_Moment

        When One Corinthian loves another Corinthian very, very much….

        • Shan

          Ok thanks for the first LOL since Tuesday…

          • Msgr_Moment

            Smoke em if ya got em.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Your a Good Wonker…

        It was a passage from “Two Corinthians” that Trump said was one of his favorite Bible passages, because whoever spelled it out for him did it that way cuz that’s how the Bible does it, but Biblers says that as “second Corinthians,” so it showed that Trump didn’t know the Bible well enough to correctly refer to his “favorite” Bible passage…

        The Con…

        • YoNastyBunny

          But the Bible Thumpers voted for him, so it’s cool.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Cuz he’s moral and Godly, as they understand morals and God…

          • Treg Brown

            Ask any of his three wives!

      • Ryan Denniston

        Liberty University. Watch his speech.

      • Serai 1

        No Christian would ever say “Two Corinthians”. It’s “SECOND Corinthians”, because it’s the second letter to the Corinthians attributed to Paul.

        • Shan

          …oh. I guess it helps to have ever been a Christian.

          I miss a lot of references because of being raised atheist.

          • BeachBum

            You may not have missed much. In Oldyn Tymes they were often used in gross and derogatory ways. At least in bizness.

          • Serai 1

            You’d be surprised how many of the common idioms you use come from the bible. It’s a major influence in our culture. I always tell atheists it doesn’t matter if you’re not a Christian – you should read it anyway because it’s a founding document of Western culture, as much as the Magna Carta or the Constitution. More so, because it’s at least a thousand years older. It’s certainly impossible to understand Christians effectively if you’ve never read it, and thus much more difficult to deal with them. Plus, it’s actually an interesting set of books. Some really crazy stories in there. (It’s also really filthy sometimes. Amazing what the blue noses will tolerate if it’s labelled “scripture”.)

      • BeachBum

        See, 2 Corinthians with a goat walk into a bar. The bartender says” GTFO, the Cubs are playing.” The goat says ” I told you so.” Wait, wait, that’s not it………(puts down beer, really tries to think) Uh…..sorry. :)

        • tehbaddr

          So 2 Corinthians walk into a bar, and the goat says…

  • Sean McLaren

    Oooo…the Onion is still useful

    “Pollsters admit they underestimated voters adrenal glands”

  • Jgb979

    Yeah no “winning” doesn’t cure racism. Hitler was still a bigot after winning

    It’s important for liberals to not take the high road here and explain away this as economic anxiety either. That may have been the cause but Racism was the cure. The only concrete proposal is build a fucking border wall and deport a lot of people.

    A lot of Trumps suppprters aren’t even that bad off either, as he captured a too high percentage of the college educated vote.

    Dems have to stop trying to assume people will figure out Repubs are shitty on their own. There’s a reason Foxnews exists- it works.

    • Michael Smith

      There’s a country club in my town and an adjacent country club neighborhood. Trump signs in every well manicured yard. Surprised the help didn’t deface them.

  • Msgr_Moment
  • Resistance Fighter Astraea

    Elizabeth Warren is going to be on Rachel Maddow tonight.

  • Operation American Jesus®

    Well, since their parents didn’t team them manners, etiquette or societies niceities that keeps things humming along without decapitated heads rolling in the streets or throwing gays off buildings and setting people on fire for, ya know, just whatevers, then SOMEBUNNY’S gotta step up and teach these goons a thing or twelve.

    Yelling at ’em ain’t gonna go do it. Yelling at someome NEVER makes them better; it just makes them madder. We’re gonna have to be like Obama, stand tall but relaxed, smile, and most of all LISTEN.

    Then punch ’em right in the face and RUN LIKE HELL. Works every time. Or never. I forget which.

  • smr06va

    These are difficult to read — but I think we should know what is happening to people:

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/welcome-to-trumps-america-58-reports-of-people-bullied-by-emboldened-bigots-and-the-list-is-growing/

    • Serai 1

      I’d like to know where the fuck the school administrators were when those kids were torturing their classmates with hate.

    • ViveLaRevolution

      Jesus wept. This is terrorism. You’re right, this is hard but we have to know so we can stand up.

      • Sister Artemis

        That’s exactly what I thought when I got to the end of the article. I’m not even religious.

    • Sister Artemis

      I am going back and forth about posting this on my facebook page, obviously with a trigger warning. This is so fucking awful.

      Years ago I woke up with a scrap of dream left in my head – looking down a long sidewalk along side a park … about a block down I see two men confronting a woman in a burka …. they rip the scarf off her head, throw it on the ground … I am running towards them

      That scrap has stayed with me for years, and mental quiz I’d give myself about real life: would I notice? would I be brave enough to intervene? what would I do? what would I say? Would I get hurt? Would I be brave enough to take that risk?

      Looks like that hypothetical was some kind of worthwhile mental test right now.

    • Sister Artemis
      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        The SS lightning bolts are a singularly apropos touch.

  • Constant Gardener

    OT: Last night I saw Chris Hayes wrongfully exonerate Ralph (sucks so hard) Nader of his 2000 ratfuckery and I vowed not to return to MSNBC. I mean Tweety was already unbearable, and I aim to keep that vow. Anyone have any ideas for televised news other than PBS?

    • Beanz&Berryz

      oo

      • Constant Gardener

        Just now on PBS, ASU students are “delivering” the news. College TV. Ohmyjesus it’s bad.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          I haven’t seen TV news in a long time, other than special events like elections.. so I don’t know anything about it, I realized…

          • Constant Gardener

            This was my first laugh since Tuesday. You have no idea how freaking grateful I am.

    • Dan50thAE

      I don’t have TV, I watch the Young Turks often. They have pros and cons but at least they openly embrace their bias and are fairly consistent.

  • Thanks, I needed this.

  • Apple Scruff

    Donald Trump’s Businesses Pose New Conflict Of Interest Questions http://www.npr.org/2016/11/10/501537263/donald-trumps-businesses-pose-new-conflict-of-interest-questions?

    • Sean McLaren

      I believe you mean “opportunities”

      • Kavefish

        “Begin again! A new life awaits you in the off-world colonies! A chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure!”

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          I’d risk my Nexus 6 going rogue on me if that were really a thing.

          • Kavefish

            No kiddin’.

    • Jamoche
      • Kavefish

        Jezuz…

        As said above, and this wasn’t pursued earlier because, why?

        Oh yeah… The Threat Of The XX

      • Kavefish

        Also, too, I understand the Keystone XL Pipleline project will be reinstated, as well.

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          Because, with oil prices at near-record lows, the one thing America desperately needs is a lot of expensive low-quality feed stock.

    • Thiazin Red

      Huh, maybe you fuckos should have gotten on this months ago?

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Give them a break. They were very busy chasing down imaginary conflicts of Interest with the Clinton Foundation.

        • Kavefish

          “Okay, Sam! I got my runnin’ pants on!”

          — Bugs Bunny

    • Msgr_Moment

      Um. I could have told them that. SIX MONTHS AGO.

      • Kavefish

        Didn’t he take your call?

        • Msgr_Moment

          No, he was talking to some guy on the other line. I think his name was Ben Ghazi.

    • Good lord were these people in a coma for the last year?

    • Msgr_Moment

      Captain Renault would like a word.

    • Anna Rompage

      Like that’s gonna make any difference to the fuck heads that voted for a known pussy grabbing xenophobic bigot that fucked a bunch of contractors out of pay and made his money by declaring bankruptcy…….

  • IOnlyLikeCats

    Some racist idiots started posting on my sister’s best friends Facebook and I got a lot of delight in explaining to them (at their request) exactly how they are fascist.

    • Yr. Gma

      Why is anyone still reading Facebook?

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        It’s easier than Skype to keep in touch with the far away family I still like. Besides we have diverse friends and family so it’s not just racist uncles.

      • Using it to check in with friends who are in the same boat with us.

      • Sister Artemis

        To each their own, but I find useful – have one friends and family profile, one work profile. The work one I am avoiding right now; the personal one has been a blessing these last two days.

      • DT

        Catharsis

  • Nounverb911

    Just found this delightful article on how Trump could be impeached almost immediately. (Of course it ain’t gonna happen, but it’s nice to think about).

    https://twitter.com/Independent/status/796866723907596288

    • Apple Scruff

      But then we’re stuck with Pence. Shit needs to happen before the Electoral College votes.

      • Kavefish

        Yeah, and if Trump is impeached and then somehow out of left field Mike Pence is impeached, then Paul Ryan becomes president, right?

        Looks like the RNC knew what they were doing when they set up this roster.

        Also, too; since Obama is well-versed in Constitutional law, he’d probably be pretty savvy on what remedies exist; and since he hasn’t passed any notes to anyone I’m guessing he’s not looking for a way to change the outcome.

        ….

        …dammit…

        • Beanz&Berryz

          The Electoral College votes for who got the most votes… problem solved…

        • Msgr_Moment

          …since he hasn’t passed any notes to anyone…

          …that we KNOW of.

          • Kavefish

            “Help me, Obi Wan, you’re my only hope.”

        • Nounverb911

          Ryan would become president only in the case both Trump and Pence are gonzo at the same time, Ford chose Nelson Rockefeller as his VP.

          • Kavefish

            Oh yeah — right!

          • Sean McLaren

            and Ford was chosen after Agnew left

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          I keep hoping that he has. He is smart enough to know that you don’t tip your hand until you’re ready to take ’em all down.

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      I dunno about impeachment, but there’s muttering going on. Donnie might not make it to January without being ventilated. I’d pass it off as kvetching but damn, all bets are off now.

  • Tacoclamgenda

    Robyn, this is now pasted to my home screen. Thank you.

  • Lesser Tiffany

    I’m promising my friends who are PoC I will protect them in any way I can. Like seriously.

    • CourseZombie

      Did the same with my co-worker who has a lovely young family. If I have to camp out at their house with my handguns, I will. Hope to the Goddess it doesn’t come to that.

    • JVisconti

      Self deprecation is a fine quality.. But change your stage name to the Better Tiffany.

  • Sean McLaren

    and, the favorites for Interior secretary are Donald Trump Jr. (I think I’d be a good fit because I like to hunt) and Sarah Palin

  • JVisconti

    Day 1. Donald nominates whoever to SCOTUS.
    Day 2. Senate appproves.
    Day 3 Texas brings case to overturn Roe and SCOTUS says let states decide
    Day 4. Don Jr. announces discounts for ladies at Trump SoHo New York hotel.
    This making America great again is so much like 1968 without the good music.

  • Nounverb911

    Okay!
    How long before Trump gropes his first intern?

    • Serai 1

      A BJ in the Oval Office is going to look like CHILD’S PLAY compared to what Trump’s going to get up to.

  • Sedagive

    Wonderful post Robyn, thank you.

    Since Godwin has been suspended for the foreseeable future: yeah – the Nazis were winners too (until they weren’t).

    And they were Nazis.

  • azeyote

    when you are proud to be a despicable ass wipe – where do you go from there ?

  • boll ocks

    So I’ve been trying to come up with one positive thing about this shitshow, and I
    realized that it might be a good experience to be the underdog for a while. It will only sharpen our resolve and it will focus our anger. Of course I would have traded that for a win in a picosecond, but I cant live in despair forever.

    • Nounverb911

      Jimmy Kimmel thanked Trump last night for giving him 4 years of material.

      • BeachBum

        He will make Nixon look like a Boyscout,

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        Assuming the new, meaner FCC allows people to make jokes about Dear Leader.

    • satanscheerleadersloveamerica

      The only thing I can come up with is OK, now you fuckers own ALL the toys. Lets see how you use them to benefit the American people. There will be no excuses. You own the process right now. Crom help us. Hopefully we can again clean up the mess with as little damage as possible. Whom am I kidding. Its gonna be an epic shit show.FUCK!!!!!!

      • boll ocks

        Yeah. God damn it.

  • Yr. Gma

    When is Zaza going to start her anti-bullying crusade? Seems to me there was enough happened today for her to work with.

    • Sean McLaren

      I’m guessing we’re going to be the “bullies” she targets. “Bullying isn’t fee speech”

    • Bill D. Burger

      I think Donald threatened her on Twitter and told her to shut the fuck up and zip it.

  • Vicious Babushka

    I baked an apple pie on Tuesday afternoon but couldn’t eat any of it.

    For dinner tonight I ate a big wedge of that pie, with a bunch of vanilla ice cream.

    • Nounverb911

      I was wondering what to make for dinner, that sounds great.

    • Yr. Gma

      Good for you. We need the nourishment for the fight.

    • Daisy

      I basically had fries for lunch.

    • Anna Rompage

      I managed to choke down a quesadilla last night but have only been pecking at food today….

      I might have to take up the Trappist diet of beer for a short bit…

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I had some chips and guacamole and powdered sugar donuts tonight. Grief is weird.

    • Treg Brown

      I hosted a taco party at my place Tuesday evening waiting for a future of taco trucks on every corner. I’ve eaten a bowl of cereal and a bunch of grapes since then. I think tacos are off menu for a bit.

      • Marion in Savannah

        NOOOO — If tacos are off the menu it means that the forces of darkness won. Taco Tuesday needs to expand to Taco Thursday… Or actually any day that ends in “Y.”

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          I made this amazing taco bowl on Tuesday. I find Mexican food comforting, but right now I couldn’t look at another one for a while. Plus, Thursday is Chicken Day.

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          I agree! Mexican food 24/7 has high appeal for me. That’s probably why I’m planning my relo there.

    • YoNastyBunny

      Know the feeling. I did a week’s worth of meal prep Sunday, and can’t eat any of it. I had some dry Crackling Oat Bran for cereal. So at least I won’t be constipated from all the not eating (or only eating peanut butter candies). I might have a slice of cheese.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      It’s the FutureScare Diet. We’re all involuntarily on it.

      • YoNastyBunny

        Just in time for the holidays!!!!

  • Left Coast Tom

    Don’t know if this has been not-commented on another thread, but it seems relevant to this one and I can’t not-comment at work as Disqus doesn’t seem to go through the firewall…

    A very cool joint statement from CA’s Senate and Assembly leaders on the election. It’s basically a “fuck you”, but it has other worthwhile sentiments as well.

    The beginning:

    SACRAMENTO – California Senate President pro Tempore Kevin de León (D-Los Angeles) and California Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon (D-Paramount) released the following statement on the results of the President election:

    Today, we woke up feeling like strangers in a foreign land, because
    yesterday Americans expressed their views on a pluralistic and
    democratic society that are clearly inconsistent with the values of the
    people of California.

    We have never been more proud to be Californians.

    By a margin in the millions, Californians overwhelmingly rejected politics fueled by resentment, bigotry, and misogyny.

    The largest state of the union and the strongest driver of our nation’s economy has shown it has its surest conscience as well.

    California is – and must always be – a refuge of justice and opportunity for people of all walks, talks, ages and aspirations – regardless of how you look, where you live, what language you speak, or who you love.

    The whole thing is worth a read, and it’s posted in Spanish as well.

    • Treg Brown

      “California was not a part of this nation when its history began, but we are clearly now the keeper of its future.”

      Thanks for this. Pretty inspiring.

      • Daisy

        I’ve been ranting about how we try to save everyone’s ass, but Pennsylvania and Florida (for example) decided to fuck it all up.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Are there any parts of Cali that normal people can afford to live in? The house I would be selling in KY is 4 bedrooms, 2 baths, fenced back yard, and would only go for around $180K. From what I’ve heard I couldn’t get a doghouse for that out there.

        • Left Coast Tom

          The bluer parts of California happen to be the more expensive – $180K, in the Bay Area, is a down-payment on a small house.

          The median home price in Fresno is $198K, according to Zillow. Not what people think of in terms of the “California lifestyle”, but it is very close to the Sierra Nevada, so weekends would be awesome.

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Yikes. I don’t care about a “California lifestyle” – as a 50-year native of Kentuckistan I wouldn’t know how to pull that off – but I would like to be able to house myself.

          • Left Coast Tom

            Well, Sequoia NP is not far from Fresno, so this could be your weekend (top of Moro Rock, looking east).

            For the record…I understand that people leaving “red” areas because they’ve “had it” actually concentrates the sane vote, so I never respond to people complaining about their “red” area by saying “move to ” (plus, there are almost 40 million of us already) (plus, people have reasons other than politics to live where they live). At the same time, I never respond to people posting about leaving their “red” area by saying they should stay, because people need to make the decisions that make sense to them.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f73d4cac5ddb93ab9ae75d0a7d3f76f55073ace6cd35eb28881e02e0909d8925.jpg

        • Treg Brown

          Decent places probably in the low 200’s in the inland empire, high desert areas of southern California. I’m not familiar with Northern California property but I imagine its as expensive as the beach or Beverly Hills areas. The central valley were Daisy lived is probably in the high 100’s but it’s very conservative up there.

          • Left Coast Tom

            My take has been that Santa Monica roughly represents what costs are throughout the Bay Area. But, “Northern California” is a big place and the Bay Area is only one part, though it’s the most populous part by far.

          • Daisy

            Depends on where. You might be able to get under 100k in Oildale, for election. My house back home was only worth about 60k, and it was a two bedroom one bathroom.

    • Bec Jenn

      I’m a zonie girl born and bred (dad was born in AZ too), but I became an adult in Sacramento. Marched down “J” Street in the 90’s. BTW, go Hornets (Sac State). CA will always hold a near and dear place in my heart. I love my desert, but always wish I had the inclusiveness of CA (or at least Sacramento).

      • Left Coast Tom

        Arizona was much closer in the last election than it’s been in a long time, and you got rid of Arpaio. Hopefully that’s a positive sign for the future.

        • Bec Jenn

          I was glad of this. However, I’ve lived in some of the bluest part of AZ (S. Phoenix), so I can never really understand my fellow states-people. But it also means that our voice is really small in a lot of elections.

  • Bill D. Burger

    “For fuck’s sake….goddammit’….oh hell no!” _ Sorry. For the past two days, every few hours I just yell that out like I’ve suddenly developed Tourettes. Just can’t help it.

    • Kavefish

      Whew…

      I thought it was just me.

      I’ve been also too having imaginary arguments with people about the end of the social safety net. Not sure how that one’s going…

      • Marion in Savannah

        It ain’t just you. I just got back from having drinks with a friend who I know voted for Rand Paul in KY. So I figured we’d better take politics off the table… Well, imagine my surprise to discover he’s just as horrified as I am. We’re both olds (me almost 71, him crowding 72) and it might just have dawned on him that his sole source of income, Social Security, might just be gutted. Welcome to the Resistance!

  • Angela Ruzzo

    All I have received today was pitiful emails from friends who are crying or gnashing their teeth about the Trump victory being the death of civilization as we know it. I am fed up with it. GET OVER IT!

    What we have seen is the last gasp of the white male patriarchy and the white corporate oligarchy. This shit happens in every society and every civilization when the power base is threatened – the power brokers fight back tooth and nail. It is never pretty, and sometimes they win a round.

    We are fighting a war here, folks, and we lost this battle. But it wasn’t Waterloo, it was more like the Nazi capture of Paris. We didn’t lose the war. And we liberated Paris, by the way. If we did it once, we can do it again. And again, if necessary.

    The white male working class underdogs believed that Trump was speaking for them, but it won’t take them long to find out he despises them as much as he despises everyone else, and they will turn on him. Eventually. As soon as their taxes double and their pickup trucks are repossessed.

    Nobody will EVER hand you your rights on a silver platter, you will always have to go out and fight for them.

    The rats are out of the woodwork and the worst scum have risen to the top. But do you know what that makes them? Visible and easily-identifiable targets. We now know EXACTLY who the enemy is. That makes them weak, and us strong.

    Gird your loins and get back to work.

    • jowgajen

      I dunno, the patriarchy seems pretty healthy, and the oligarchy seems down right robust. This isn’t their last gasp.

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        Maybe not. But they’re aging and they have a tendency towards complacency. They can be taken down. Ask the Bourbons.

    • idiotboy

      Look at the damn exit polls, rich white men and women, boomers, petulant children, and stay at home voters put him in office.
      Yes, get to work for the midterms, but know your enemy. To paraphrase, “it is us”.
      Hand rights on a silver platter!!!??? We fought for these things already, for a long fucking time. Now these “rights” are poised to be taken away in an instant.
      The assholes have the senate, house, executive and soon the judicial branches.
      Yes I will fight I am a shit stirrer and volunteer from way back and that will not change, but we lost this war. Shit we may have lost the last 80 years of (very slow) progress.
      As I told the boys, you can bring this back, you are young enough. I am going out a bitter loser barring a goddamn miracle.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        I keep thinking about those women who were born before women could vote, who were so proud and excited to vote for Hillary.

        • Marion in Savannah

          I keep thinking about those precious little millennial snowflakes who decided that “feminism is over” and voted their conscience. All I have to say to them is “Well, I hope you never have an unwanted pregnancy. Enjoy that back alley and that rusty coathanger.” Some of us fought for what you’re spitting on…

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            That’s what I said. Get your abortions now while they’re safe and legal, because on Jan. 21 they’re going after Roe v Wade, and they will get it overturned.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        Exit polls don’t mean squat.

        “We” are only the enemy if we give up fighting. Speak for yourself.

        Yes, we’ve been fighting for rights for a long time, and we will keep on fighting for a long time. American women have been fighting for equality for more than 150 years, and we haven’t won that war yet, but we keep on fighting.

        And nobody can take away our rights without our consent.

        You think we lost this war? Then I say yes, you are a bitter loser.

        • idiotboy

          Did I mention I am a shit stirrer? They call it “trolling” these days.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Trolling is for amateurs. It’s clean and safe and anonymous. In a real war, the warriors risk their lives, and sometimes their freedom.

    • Vecchiojohn

      Second the motion re bucking up and prepare for the next battle. As Grant said to Sherman after a setback, “Whip ’em tomorrow.” But I think you’re too optimistic about white working class and other Trump voters seeing the light. Nixon fucked them, Reagan fucked them and the Bush gang fucked them. Now they’re lining up to be fucked again. They’re scared shitless of the phantoms that have been summoned by their manipulators. I despaired of the white working class when I used to be a working class white in the early 70s and listened to my compeers talk about the n****s on welfare and how we oughta just nuke Hanoi and kill all the queers and hippies and the Jews who run the media and this damn women’s lib shit and blah de fuckin blah blah blah.

      https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3045/2906373060_4600c1f5a5.jpg

      • Marion in Savannah

        Jesus — that ad reminds me of ads I used to see in medical journals that I would read before I gave them to my boss about 40 years ago…

        “Xanax (I think, it was some tranquilizer) — for your difficult female patients.”

        I’m not making this shit up, you know. And I’m wondering if we’re headed back into that country…

        • Vecchiojohn

          God knows. I think Xanax is now one of the most prescribed drugs for men and women. I suspect that it, and indica cannabis strains, will sell well over the next four years.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        Nobody has ever bamboozled them like Trump has bamboozled them, and nobody will ever fuck them the way Trump is going to fuck them. He will emasculate them. Then there will be fewer enemies to worry about.

        Be patient. Social revolutions are not for wimps or people with hot tempers.

        • Vecchiojohn

          I think we agree. Some of my young relatives were raised in households where the parents – the male parents especially – were people who were afraid of black people and brown people and deeply resentful of whites like me who weren’t. But the young ‘uns all turned into the kind of young people who regard racism, sexism and homophobia as forms of insanity. I hope I live long senough to see your vision come to pass.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Occasionally I’m not sure I want to live long enough to see my vision come to pass, because it will be a long, painful, messy road, and I am old, which causes vulnerabilities that the enemy will be quick to take advantage of. There will be many casualties, and I might be one of them. Will I live long enough to see true civilization arise from the ashes? No way. But I’m going out fighting.

          • Vecchiojohn

            It’s all we can do. “Courage will not save you,” wrote GB Shaw, “but it will shew that your souls are still alive,”

          • Angela Ruzzo

            That’s a good quotation, I had forgotten that one. Thanks for reminding me.

            I’ve never been a big fan of courage. A lot of famous people have pointed out that true courage means fighting on when you are afraid. I’ve never been afraid. No one can make me afraid without my consent, and I don’t give it. They can hurt me, they can threaten me, they can take away everything I own, they can imprison me, they can kill me, but they can’t make me fear them. This makes them furious. I like that. ?

          • Vecchiojohn

            Bertrand Russell once reported that he was discouraged by some of his students’ lack of regard for courage as a virtue. They saw it as an appeal to aggression. He saw it as a requirement for a decent polity.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Bertrand Russell was a rich, white, privately educated English aristocrat who was born during the peak of a great Empire. What did Bertrand Russell know about real courage in the face of pointless suffering? Yes, he went to prison for his pacifism during WWI – for all of 6 months. As he had been advocating pacifism for years, he had to do that or be labeled a hypocrite. He himself wrote “I found prison in many ways quite agreeable. I had no engagements, no difficult decisions to make, no fear of callers, no interruptions to my work. I read enormously; I wrote a book.” I am not interested in what Bertrand Russell has to say about courage.

          • Vecchiojohn

            Russell was a philosopher and a mathematician as well as a public intellectual (as we used to say). He was not a revolutionary or a politician. I don’t expect everyone in the world to become a martyr for whatever cause they may espouse and I certainly don’t expect them somehow to jump out of the time and circumstance of their birth. What did you expect a rich white English aristocrat to do with his life?

            “Imitate him if you dare,
            World-besotted traveller; he
            Served human liberty.”

          • Angela Ruzzo

            I expect absolutely nothing from rich, white, English male aristocrats. 99.9% of the time, that’s what I get.

    • OrG

      When their taxes double and their pickup trucks are repossessed and they lose their health care they will blame it on Obama.

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        As an actor (now and again) I have to admire how well they’ve learned their lines.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        They’ve been doing that for 8 years. Just like the Nazis blamed the Jews for everything, and still do. It’s just a symptom of the white male patriarchal paranoia syndrome. Big fucking deal. Old story, turn the page. . .

        I don’t care who THEY blame. They can blame sea turtles, for all I care. I know the truth, and they know I know the truth.

        • OrG

          The point is that when Trump and the Republican policies fuck them Rush will tell them its Obama’s fault,and they will believe it.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            And my point is, why do you care what they believe? They will believe anything. We know this. It has been true for millennia. It will always be true. Use it!

          • OrG

            I don’t care what they think.In your original post you said the white male working class would turn on trump when their taxes double and their trucks get repossessed.I think they’ll blame Obama.I think we’re on the same side.Peace.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            And when their taxes double and their trucks are repossessed, and they blame Obama, I will be standing right there to shout “BULLSHIT!”

            Yes, we’re on the same side. But I have no time for Monday morning football players, or tears for the “Lost American Dream”, or for worrying about what stupid people will think. Who said building a socially advanced civilization was going to be easy? 60 million people had to die in WWII before Europe woke up, and even now they have some problems. So the next 4 years are going to be painful. Life is painful. Whoever told you it wasn’t going to be painful was lying to you.

  • Treg Brown

    This made me grin. She looks relaxed.

    Gerster told BuzzFeed News that Bill Clinton took the photo of her and Hillary on Thursday after she serendipitously ran into them while hiking with her 13-month-old daughter Phoebe in Chappaqua, New York.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0e001114d86a9e6655ce80676b3fdaeeeff9b858909661341fa655a33f171b95.jpg

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/mbvd/womans-best-friend?utm_term=.kqB6mqqrxJ#.wpKRebbxr3

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      Onion ninjas again…

      • Treg Brown

        Yup.

  • Anna Rompage

    Great, now all the Bernie fuck heads that I know on FaceBook are promoting a petition for OR to secede from the country…

    It would be lovely if these fuckers would just wander off into the woods and die…

    I know some of them did end up voting for Hillary, but the shit they would post day in and day out about how bad she was just pisses me off

    • jowgajen

      Calexit is a thing. Of course the only legal way to secede is to get 2/3 of the states to agree that you can go. What sort of chance do you think there is of that happening?

      • Left Coast Tom

        Well, if we take our neighboring blue states with us (Nevada, Oregon, and Washington) then surely we can all agree to each other’s departure.

        • jowgajen

          If we push for and win the Constitutional convention required, why leave? We could just fix this shit and stay.

          • Marion in Savannah

            Thank you. That’s the first sensible thing I’ve heard anybody say about that crap.

          • Left Coast Tom

            Who’s going to be in a Constitutional Convention of states where the Electoral Vote decided, against the Popular Vote, that Trump is Presidential material? Sarah Palin?

    • starkitty

      You’re gonna be more mad that many of those people’s social networks are entangled with Tea Party and actual alt-right types. There’s this whole schtick where they pretend to be radical radicals to drive people to accept alt-right propaganda. I’m not saying the people you’re talking about aren’t the real deal, but if they are making secession noises in Washington and Oregon, they almost certainly are networking with White Separatists, whether they know it or not:

      https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/06/25/18603976.php

  • Snopes Shop

    Pure genius, Robyn.

  • Kooolest G

    my wife tried to start a charter school in our very hispanic neighborhood, they were going to call it “el rio” it never happened but she’s still the admin on the old Facebook page. 20 min ago some guy named ken posted this on there.
    “HEY IDIOTS- We are a Nation of Legal immigrants- NOT ILLEGAL INVASION- Screw anyone who supports this ILLEGAL INVASION- and screw you- They came here illegally they must be deported- get bent- Gang banger illegals stab and shoot our kids everyday- You dirty politicans must pay for the damage you cause- if they fly Mexican flags get the hell back to Mexico- This is America Here”

    • Kavefish

      No, seriously, Ken – don’t be shy… tell us how you really feel.

      …Shy Trump supporters, my ass.

    • Anna Rompage

      She should ask Ken how he feels about the high school students that were walking through the halls today, hold up trump signs, and shouting “white power”

      • Kooolest G

        I have a feeling he would be all for it

    • JVisconti

      Nothing like hating on 6 to 14 y/o’s and adults that nurture their futures to make me consult Websters about American values.

    • Jukesgrrl

      Oh, man, the hooligans have been emboldened. As the duty officer used to say on Hill Street Blues, “Be careful out there.”

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Jesus fuckin’ Christ.

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      ‘We are a Nation of Legal immigrants’
      Like fuck you are.
      – Indians

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      That’s not the tweet i meant to post!

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
    • Nounverb911

      “I love the poorly educated.”
      -Doofus j Drumpf

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Glad to see Allegheny County stayed blue at least,. Fight on, Pittsburgh!

      • Msgr_Moment

        Fuck you, Blair County. At least Clearfield County, the place of my birth, is a light amidst the darkness.

  • BigHorn

    That silly fuckwit takes and electoral college boning as a win. Paul Ryan calls an electoral win a mandate. Will the media start calling them liars, not Tommy Lyin’ or whatever, who gives a shit, but the rest of them? Is now the time?

    • Anna Rompage

      Seeing how they think cutting taxes for the wealthiest by half is going to add more money to the treasury, it’s not surprising that Hillary winning the popular vote is lost on them…

  • Blacktop Cadence

    I posted this on reddit, and figured you guys could appreciate it.

    “The problem Reich ignores is the racial animus that actually pushed the white working class out of the Democratic camp in the 1970s. It’s still alive and well. Hell, my trans ass still lives among them. I teach their kids, among the black kids I also have. My old man is an IBEW member whose local includes roughly 100,000+ African Americans. I could count the number of black people in his local on a single hand.

    Are they all racist? Of course not, but it remains a tremendous problem inherent in the white working class, and it’s going to make welding them to the increasingly brown, female, and queer Democratic Party extremely difficult. They simply don’t WANT to talk about us in any significant way, and that won’t change anytime soon. They certainly don’t want the Democrats spending political capital on us when we could be spending it on them. They definitely don’t want us telling them to include more black people or to worry about anti-discrimination legislation.

    My entire problem with my own culture is that they’re unwilling to share space and time and even a party with us. I just don’t see a lot of the Rust Belt down-on-their-lucks marching for LGBT rights or with #Blacklivesmatter, but they sure as shit think we should work for them on their behalf.

    And some of us did. Until it was made clear we weren’t welcome.”

    • JHan

      all of this

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      The romanticization of their struggle by both Reich and Michael Moore is infuriating.

      Their intolerance is a big reason liberals are leaving and concentrating in cities, which is leading to this popular vote/electoral vote divide.

      • Blacktop Cadence

        It’s really driving me up the wall. They act like these are simply, “aw shucks people”. They’re not. They’re complicated humans, and a lot are selfish and thoughtless and extremely self-centered. Like a lot of others.

        Throw in a heavy dose of them being told they were the backbone of the country all their lives and you’ve got a recipe for a clueless people pumped up on ego and self-worth.

        And if you’re muscling in on what’s theirs you can go fuck yourself, but can you lobby on their behalf?

        Uh, no.

      • Jukesgrrl

        Tell me about it. My father was a Pennsylvania steelworker with a comfortable enough USW income that we never wanted for anything necessary and he earned a decent retirement. But how did he vote from the ’70s on? Republican. First for Nixon because of those damn dirty hippies (ignoring the fact his daughter was one), then every other clown the GOP put up, especially Saint Ronnie. Talk about what’s the matter with Kansas? What was wrong with my Dad … and all his friends. When 9-11 happened he put so many flag decals on his car I was still trying to get them off five years after he died. Murrica, yay! He got his, now get lost the rest of yinz.

      • Gayer Than Thou

        Their intolerance is a big reason liberals are leaving and concentrating in cities, which is leading to this popular vote/electoral vote divide.

        This. I had never put it together that way, so thank you – lots of women, LGBT people, people of color, might like to have stayed in their small towns. There is much to like about small-town life. But in many of those small towns, it is impossible for us to have a life, and intolerance and bias on the part of small-town white people is the reason why. Did they get left behind, or did they push us out?

    • Constant Gardener

      But, Trump basically got the same number of votes McCain got. That’s the Republican party. We lost because one-sixth of our side didn’t vote. Clinton got ten million fewer votes than Obama in 2008. We weren’t beaten by Rusty white trash as much as we forfeited when our team didn’t show. The extent to which we let her down is staggering.

    • YoNastyBunny

      “I just don’t see a lot of the Rust Belt down-on-their-lucks marching for LGBT rights or with #Blacklivesmatter, but they sure as shit think we should work for them on their behalf.”

      Ayup! This is a pretty interesting habit of people of right-leaning persuasion, especially if they are men (the religious women usually don’t mind protesting abortion providers). The whole idea of “protesting” for policy changes is just unthinkable for them. Putting on an unorganized butthurt rally that includes intimidating others, they can do that. But I guess this is because they historically have never had to beg and plead to the powerful to be heard because–surprise–they’ve always been the ones in power. If they don’t like something they just change the law or how it’s enforced to accommodate their interests. Outside of the left, they don’t have any kind of experience with making positive change without the help of more legitimate change mechanisms (access to politicians, money, etc.).

      So it is so fucking annoying to hear white men (MRAs in particular) talking about why don’t the Blacks or the Gays or the Women protest for them. Really? Do it your damn selves!!! They really believe that the success we get is simply a matter of other people being “charitable” enough to give us consideration. They have no concept of all the hard work and sacrifice that goes into advocacy. Nobody is going to support their cause if they can’t first get off their asses!!!!

  • Jukesgrrl

    Robyn, Jukesgrrl here, your white-lady-in-arms, to say thanks for the great article. You’re right. We’re going to have to fight harder and, as Sam Bee pointed out on her show yesterday, stop expecting black people to carry us.

    And in the headlines I see Aaron Schock got a schock today, 24 counts, including filing false federal income tax returns for five years. Boo-hoo, he doesn’t even get credit for reimbursing the government for his $40,000 Downton Abbey office decor? Even beautiful people can get indicted?? Take notes, Ivanka! Is our darlin’ Evan Hurst having the day off to celebrate his participation in the take-down — or is he writing us a long first-person article about how never to trust Republicans even if you want the take-down to include a roll in the hay?

  • Sean McLaren

    Really good list of things to keep in mind for the Trump administration

    https://twitter.com/stevesilberman/status/796882144928796672

    • jowgajen

      This is actually very good, and much in line with my thoughts. We will have to shore up our institutions from the outside in order to defend against him. He is weak now, as he learns, this is the time to deter him.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Yeah, I was hoping for a little more leadership from somebody. What do we do now? How can we all help avert the disaster they’ve been warning us about for months?

        • Sean McLaren

          Just my thought, but it seems the only real avenues we have are charities and groups like the ACLU. The charities to ameliorate the things he can do constitutionally, the law to prevent him from doing anything unconstitutional.

          That being said, let’s see where this goes. If the courts start to decide that the meaning of “constitutional” is whatever Trump says it is, or he just starts ignoring the courts, we’ll have to reevaluate

          • jowgajen

            The issue is the number of judgeships the Senate has refused to confirm. Trump will have the ability to start packing all sorts of courts with his picks.

          • Sean McLaren

            Yeah, I’m trying not to speculate too much at this point, I don’t want to freak people out over what might end up being a particularly odious Republican administration, but if it turns out to be worse, we’ll have to face that.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            We’re just going to need some serious leadership in this to make a real difference. Not like Occupy Wall Street with all the different factions and goals and death by consensus.

          • starkitty

            And fake “radicals” stirring the pot, and inviting the tea party to the party, and pandering or tolerating the conspiracy crowd.
            One big problem, is thanks to the about, few legit peace groups/networks AREN’T heavily entangled with the alt right conspiracy crowd. Pretending to be “radicals” of course.

          • Jukesgrrl

            Yes, the ACLU! That’s a place to concentrate effort.

          • Left Coast Tom

            Blue states don’t have to cooperate with “Trumpism”. Federalism means a lot of sand can be thrown in the gears.

          • Sean McLaren

            Jerry Brown in CA is already promising to protect the rights of Californians

          • Left Coast Tom

            Not surprised (see my not-comment below…the State Senate and Assembly leaders have said exactly the same thing). Months ago Brown semi-jokingly suggested that if Trump won California would build a wall along it’s border with the rest of the states. Of course, other than Arizona none of our neighbors are part of the problem, and even Arizona moved much closer to “blueish” in this election than it’s been in a long time.

          • idiotboy

            I love Mr. Brown and am so glad to be a Californian.
            My forlorn hope is that we will follow Massachusetts and create our own ironically named Romney care.

          • Left Coast Tom

            That would be a reasonable use for the health care money Californians just generated by passing Props 55 and 56.

            Regarding 56…I generally oppose “sin taxes”, but make an exception where the tax raises money to counter the impacts of the “sin”, and since I mailed in my ballot before I had a chance to be offended by the moronic “no” campaign Phillip Morris put on for 56…I voted “no” (I’m not a smoker, but I like wine, and don’t want neo-prohibitionists fucking with what I like, so feel I need to return the favor). But if that money can help counter the “repeal the ACA” idiocy for CA, then…”priorities”.

          • idiotboy

            Absolutely right, join the ACLU right now!!!

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        ‘Learns’? He’ll be just as stupid when he leaves office (or is pulled from the chair to say hello to Mr Lamppost… with votes) as he is now.

        • jowgajen

          He may not be learned, but he is not stupid. He is very very good at coming out ahead in any situation. Do not underestimate him.

          • Marion in Savannah

            What he is is cunning. It’s not really a pretty trait…

          • Sean McLaren

            yeah, ask the banks, he managed to work them and work their system pretty well to get what he wanted and screw them. And he was a lot less powerful then

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            That’s not intelligence. That’s low cunning, coupled with a world that is already set up to keep him from failing. He isn’t in that world any more.

  • JVisconti

    Images of Not My President protest images on TV are unprecedented since the Romney kids gathered at the Olive Garden over Shirley Temple cocktails.

    • Me not sure

      If any of those protesters voted for Johnson or Stein, or just plain didn’t vote for Hillary out of pro Bernie spite, they need to report immediately to the political reeducation camps for a lesson or two in Realpolitik. Then they need to go fuck themselves.

  • Blacktop Cadence

    Thank you Brendan for posting this on the tweeters. :-D

    https://twitter.com/badsandwich/status/796855224308822016

    • YoNastyBunny

      They look… concerned.

      • Left Coast Tom

        I think “contemptuously pissed” might be closer.

  • The Farce Side

    Saw Trump on the cover of a magazine at the store tonight. It felt like someone hit me, seeing president next to that name. Where are we on ‘not my president’ shirts and something to call him in polite company without ever using his new title?

    • Blacktop Cadence

      Fat Wreck Chords (sound it out) has some.

      edit: Buy some NOFX and Avail records when you order. Hehe.

      • jowgajen

        Prefer one without his face. I have to wear that shit.

        • The Farce Side

          I’ll find a nice font. Never having that face near any part of my body.

      • The Farce Side

        Awesome that the proceeds go to fighting FFMC

    • jowgajen

      I’m thinking Fuckface McClownstick is still fine.

      • Anna Rompage

        That would now be President Fuckface McClownstick, which kind of has a nice ring

      • The Farce Side

        Not sure I can use that one with clients, but I’ll save it for other situations!!

        • Anna Rompage

          FFMC for short?

        • Marion in Savannah

          So I guess Fiddlefuck McMoran won’t work either? I put my thinking cap on…

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      I’m going with President Hitler.

    • I liked Wonkette’s “Queens-born Usurper”. Or how about “Russia’s American-based President”?

    • satanscheerleadersloveamerica

      Nasty buffoon parading as our leader that needs to go away asap. It may be polite,but I prefer the responses below.

  • Shan

    So my “uncle” (long time family friend of my parents) unfriended me on FB like I asked of everyone who didn’t vote or voted 3rd party (or for T-man, obviously). Oddly, I’m not really sad. And I just realized it was because of all his pre-election posts about “helping people who don’t know they need help” by voting in protest against the 2-party system that’s harming “them” yadda yadda.

    Yeah, Unk, maybe you’re not wrong about the 2-party system but your white middle class privilege blinded you to the fact that the help we REALLY needed was you doing everything you could to keep Trump from being elected.

    You didn’t do that, though. You didn’t LISTEN to the very people you were claiming you wanted to help. You thought you knew better than everybody who’s ever been grabbed by the pussy or has had their hijab ripped off or their father shot after a “broken tail light” stop or told who they couldn’t marry or what bathroom to use who said YEAH, BUT NOT THIS YEAR. NOT THIS ELECTION. You thought your “conscience” was more important, and your ideals more valid than our lived reality that we were trying to change.

    So, no. I guess we are not friends any more, as you posted so sadly. But now at least I understand why.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Sorry. That sort of break can be sad. Hope you’re feeling okay about it.

      • Shan

        I’m fine, thanks. For reasons stated above.

        Honestly, he was starting to sound like a self-righteous prick

        • Marion in Savannah

          Glad you’re here, and soldiering on!

    • Anna Rompage

      At first they come for the gypsies, and I didn’t say anything…..

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        I feel like a gypsy in 1939 Berlin. Terror is coming, just not yet, for me.

    • satanscheerleadersloveamerica

      I have not gone to face palm for over two weeks because of what some my family members may have posted. I may burn down my account. I used to see it as a nice communication tool, but over the last 6 months it has only made me angry about some people I care about.

      • Shan

        I’m getting rid of the useless ones.

      • CourseZombie

        Fuck, I haven’t looked at mine since maybe March. And I don’t think many of my friends are posting much anymore either.

  • Apple Scruff
    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I feel ill.

    • Kavefish

      Dammit, Janet!

    • Odd Jørgensen

      Oh, fucking great.

      #diggingmyholedeeper

  • Marion in Savannah

    Wanna really reach for the hemlock? Try this on for size, quoted from the NYEffingT:

    “Steve Bannon, the conservative provocateur and Mr. Trump’s campaign chief, is now a leading candidate to become White House chief of staff, but he’d have to beat out another campaign veteran in the running, Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, according to two people with knowledge of the discussions.”

    I’m off to make myself a YOOOOGE drink…

    • badhombreinatacotruck

      New NBC series: “Steve Bannon: Westwingnut” Thursday night at 10, 9 central.

    • Duke

      It’s going to be a shitshow whomever is in the cabinet.

    • YoNastyBunny

      Part of me is like – “DO IT!!! PUT THE KRAZIEST MOTHERFUCKERS IN THE CABINET SO I CAN WATCH THEM BURN IT TO THE GROUND”.

      But then I have a sudden bout of sanity and realize shit could get funky for people like me.

      • thixotropic jerk

        That’s pretty much been my take for this whole shitshow. You get two years fuckwits to show us how full of bullshit you were and then we will pounce on your sorry lying asses and devour you as your former supporters whine about broken promises!

        I wish there was a way for me to help you feel safe or at least safer.

  • sosuume

    Houston, we have a problem…

    KKK parade in NC to celebrate Trump victory. http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/under-the-dome/article113915898.html

    Hate messages/incidents on first day after election. https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

    Sign petition at Change.org that will be sent to all Electoral College electors urging them to vote for Hillary when they cast their votes on December 19th. The petition has already received over a million supporters and appears to be going viral. https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?recruiter=8788083&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Can they do that? Would it be legally binding?

      • sosuume

        It will be more of a protest move on the part of the signers. And it might have worked if the electoral college totals were closer.

        • starkitty

          If it could work, it’s worth a shot.
          #hailmaryforhillary

      • starkitty

        Let’s find out. I just signed. Maybe it’ll the Great Orange One the excuse he needs to move on.

    • starkitty

      “1,416,984 supporters”
      Holy citizen mobilization, Batman.

  • Foreign Agitator Ron

    Call them winners? Why would I do that? Just because their idol is temporarily in a position of power doesn’t change the fact that they were born losers, they lived the lives of losers and they will die losers. And deep down inside they fucking KNOW they’re losers.

    • jowgajen

      That is why they are so angry. It’s not very deep down, either. It’s also why they feel there’s not that much risk to putting their lot in with a conman.

  • Bec Jenn

    I’ve read a few comments here and have been thinking a lot about the quote from “V for Vendetta”:

    [i]Good evening, London. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption.
    I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of every day routine-
    the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy
    them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration, whereby
    those important events of the past, usually associated with someone’s
    death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, a celebration of a nice
    holiday, I thought we could mark this November the 5th, a day that is
    sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives
    to sit down and have a little chat. There are of course those who do not
    want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into
    telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because
    while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will
    always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for
    those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there
    is something terribly wrong with this country, isn’t there? Cruelty and
    injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the
    freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have
    censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and
    soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who’s to blame? Well
    certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be
    held accountable, but again truth be told, if you’re looking for the
    guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know
    you were afraid. Who wouldn’t be? War, terror, disease. There were a
    myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of
    your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you
    turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler. He promised you order,
    he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent,
    obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence. Last night I
    destroyed the Old Bailey, to remind this country of what it has
    forgotten. More than four hundred years ago a great citizen wished to
    embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to
    remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than
    words, they are perspectives. So if you’ve seen nothing, if the crimes
    of this government remain unknown to you, then I would suggest you allow
    the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if
    you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to
    stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament,
    and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never,
    ever be forgot.[i]

    • starkitty

      That’s from the film, right? I wasn’t to happy about the “its’ you fault” focus. I’m pretty sure that deviated from the comic, at least in presentation. They really had a rigged system. But it does apply more to us right now.

      • Bec Jenn

        Yup from the film. I like the movie, because I do think the “fault” thing wasn’t so bad, yes I understand that fear can do a lot of things, but the populace let it happen, as it did here, and at so many other times. People need to say “no” and not let fear rule and impede on the rights of others.

  • Apple Scruff

    I think his supporters are happier than he is. I don’t think he wanted to be President. He wanted to lose and whine about a “rigged system” and then use it to launch Trump TV.

    They’re saying he and his team were a bit overwhelmed and underprepared for their White House events today. Heh.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      But they seemed like such a capable team

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Watch for my new Dystopia coming Winter, 2017: The Accidental President

    • The Farce Side

      I would love to see him quit…then I remember Pence. Dammit.

      • Apple Scruff

        I was thinking that. What if he quit before the inauguration? Or when the electoral college votes?

        • Kiri the Unicorn

          Pence still steps in.

      • Shan

        Pence’s shit is mostly unconstitutional, at least as far as the repro rights stuff I’ve seen.

        • Anna Rompage

          Only while RGB is still kicking…

          • Shan

            Shhh…

          • Anna Rompage

            I’m willing to donate organs, stem cells, hell even my own life to keep her going until the next dem is elected

      • Anna Rompage

        He’s already said he’s gonna put the VP in charge of both foreign & domestic policy…

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          You can bet your sweet bippy that Roe V Wade will be on the chopping block by Jan. 21.

          • Kavefish

            I just hope when they swing that axe they miss and take a couple of fingers with it…

            …Uh… DELICIOUS FINGERS OF VOTES! Uh, Yeah! THAT’S what I meant!!

          • Anna Rompage

            No, they need to ge a new justice in there, and even then, the court wouldn’t sway that way..

            The big threat is if something happened to RGB, then we’re all fucked and doomed and may as well pray to be taken out by an angry deity, or asteroid…

          • Rise Up Demme!

            but they need roe v wade as a major fundraising tool.
            i suspect that they will find a way to keep lots of their big fundraisers.

      • Kavefish

        Gotta admit the RNC did a bang-up job on their roster line-up.

        Each layer of hell is worse than the one before, it seems.

    • smr06va

      In watching the press coverage of the various meetings with drumpf, he looks uncomfortable in his own orange skin and kinda of fidgety and bored. He really is an overgrown child with the attention span of a complete simpleton.

      • Kavefish

        Remember that image of Bannon standing there during Donald’s acceptance speech. Donald is that tired, fidgeting, yawning kid puffed up to (approximately) adult size. And that’s who he’s gonna be for the time he’s in office.

      • Marion in Savannah

        Simpleton/child LIBELZ!

    • starkitty

      I’ve gotten this feeling from many places. One Trump supporters twitter account, once full of gross anti Hillary memes, all but went silent. I thought they would be gloating. It’s weird.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Stopped getting paid for the campaign!

        • Kavefish

          Whoops!

        • Nezrite

          “Paid”, really. It will mostly be in Trump Steak shares, discounted by 30% off the originally marked-down price for failure to be the BEST TRUMP TWITTERER EVER.

        • YoNastyBunny

          Speaking of getting paid, I guess Trump has to pay his campaign staff now that they delivered. Bet he didn’t see that coming either… He can always charge the taxpayers, I guess.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Probably one of those Russian bots. They don’t need them anymore, so they stopped running.

        • starkitty

          In this case I actually know the person. So..maybe not everything he was hoping for?

      • Apple Scruff

        Probs a Russian troll whose contract is up!

        • starkitty

          Nope. I know the guy. Or thought I did…

    • Politics is easy, governing is hard.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
    • Marion in Savannah

      I’m SO loving this!

    • Sean McLaren

      Anger can have it’s problems, but in certain circumstances it has the virtue of keeping you moving when nothing else will

  • smr06va

    Can the president be impeached for gross incompetence?

  • Temperature check – everyone doing okay? Everyone managing their pain and sorrow their own way?

    • Shan

      Snark back. Check.

    • Anna Rompage

      Very potent Imperial IPA is my warm loving friend this evening… I’m drinking it like it was ice cold Bud Lite on a 105 degree day

      • Hoy alcohol! Proof that the universe loves us and wants us to be happy!

        • Anna Rompage

          OMG, Michael Pollan has a little short series on Netflix called Cooked, and the last two last episodes were all about fermentation, bacteria and fungi…

          I ferment, and bake bread too, but it was really interesting to see him break it all down.

          I really like him a lot, he’s a good chicken!

          • WomanInAMood

            I so love the cheese nun.

          • Anna Rompage

            OMG isn’t she awesome!

            I always wince a little when they involve religion, but she was so amazing! I’d love to sit down with her over a dinner and just chat!

          • WomanInAMood

            And this goes into the binge watching queue. For my own sanity, I have decided to watch only things that make me happy this week-end.

          • Marion in Savannah

            Didn’t know about that — gonna have to pull it up and watch. Thanks for mentioning it!

    • Marion in Savannah

      Still hanging in. It really helped that my choir director (I blew off rehearsal yesterday…) just sent this to us:

      “Inner Peace during the current political campaign……

      I’m passing this on because it worked for me today.
      A doctor on TV said that in order to have inner peace in our lives during
      this political campaign, we should always finish things that we start.
      Since we all could use more calm in our lives, I looked around my
      house to find things I’d started & hadn’t finished.

      I finished a bottle of Merlot, a bottle of Chardonnay, a bodle of Bayleys,
      a butle of wum, tha mainder of Waliuminun scriptins, an a bxo a choclutz.
      Yuz haz kno idr how fablus I feeeel rite now.

      Sned this to all ur frenz who need inner piss. An telum u luvum.”

      Needed that giggle, I did…

      • Yeah. I know it’s hard right now to laugh. But we gotta laugh, right?

        • Marion in Savannah

          For me it’s laugh or get borderline suicidal again. Been there years ago, don’t wanna go back.

          • Good plan – stick with it.

          • Marion in Savannah

            It’s worked for me — if I can’t laugh at it it’s not worth paying attention to. And that includes everything, life, the universe, and everything. (Sometimes I piss of folks at church because there’s so much to laugh at there… Deal with it!)

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Oh, gawd, thank you – that’s the first chuckle I’ve had since the epic ugly-cry of a couple hours ago.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Eating donut holes for dinner and making some creative stuff to try to sell.

      • I got some smoked sausage and fries to heat up. Maybe play some Star Trek: Timelines.

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          Video games sound good also too.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        What do you make?

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          Leather journals, mixed media art, and some printable pages for planners.

    • Nounverb911

      I beat the shit out of a golf ball this morning, seemed to help.

    • Suse

      Drove down the coast to Santa Barbara. Listened to good music all the way. Just getting ready to walk to dinner with hubs. On Monday, I’m starting to jump on the pro-choice sites and see how I can help.

      • Yes. I’m gonna spend part of Sunday writing some letters. They want “respect”? They’re gonna have to respect the millions of us who didn’t vote for this. Especially in states where we won.

    • WomanInAMood

      It’s my Friday, and I have a box o’ wine, a pizza, and chocolate. I am binge watching Brooklyn 911, and frequently saying aloud “Fuckfuckfuckfuckittyfuckfuck.” In other words, I’m hanging in there.

      • My Friday too! I’m gonna heat up my dinner, maybe ask friends about seeing a movie tomorrow, and do the same.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Sort of, kind of, and thank of you for staying blue. Welcome, Senator Cortez-Mastro!

      • We did good here in protecting liberal values this cycle. But we’ve got a tough 2018 slate, and we won’t have Harry Reid’s machine and influence to help us then. We have to walk the walk, now.

    • Jennifer R

      Vodka and Juice, planning for the worst case scenario. Anything better will be a pleasant surprise.

      • Marion in Savannah

        Fingers crossed… Not really hopeful, but maybe the worst will be a wee bit less horrific that we fear? Like I said… Fingers crossed!

        • Jennifer R

          Looks like if the worst case happens and somehow SSI is gone by February, my roommate and I can meet rent until June when the lease is up. Not having that over our heads will go a long way.

          • Marion in Savannah

            (((hugs))) Hope it NEVER comes to that.

          • Jennifer R

            I am also stock piling psych meds, and started doing upper body strength work. It won’t be much, but any little bit will be good if I have to be out over nights.

          • Marion in Savannah

            More hugs. And purrs from my kittehs.

      • Plan for the worst, hope for the best – that’s a teacher’s go-to.

        • Jennifer R

          Once upon a time I was actually going to be a teacher. But yeah right no one is hiring trans-teachers.

          • We’re hiring teachers. We have a few who are trans. If you can do the job, we don’t give a crap about much else.

          • Jennifer R

            I also switched majors from Music ed to electronics engineering before I got the pedagogy certificate.

          • Well, if you ever want to go back we do offer Alternative Route to Licensure for folks who don’t have the license or educational background but want to teach.

    • Msgr_Moment

      Too early to even respond. However, I didn’t bite your head off, so there’s that.

    • Sean McLaren

      A bottle of wine, maybe some Netflix, and letting my mind kind of wander to imagine all the directions this could go and how I could react to them, and what the reactions to that would be and how that would play into larger issues and etc

      • Don’t get too out in the weeds. But if you do, pull three times on the rope and we’ll yank you back.

        • Sean McLaren

          this is my strong suit. I’m lucky enough to have a mind that can wander through all of the options and then get back to reality having gained something in perspective. But thanks for the concern, I did get lost in the weeds plenty learning that skill

      • Bec Jenn

        I’ve been playing games. Torchlight II and Children of the Nile have been some of my favourites. Reading too (mostly re-reading) and losing myself in the different worlds.

    • I’m still crying every ten minutes and feeling like I watched a lot of the future I wanted for my kids die. I need to do some paying work, really badly, but I can’t seem to get my mind around it.

      • Ease back into it – we’re all stunned right now. When you’re ready, the work will be there.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        I think we are all mourning for a future we imagined we could have. It’s very, very sad.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Spotts, thanks so much for asking! As you can see, you’ve reminded us yet again that the Wonketeers really are a family, looking out for each other’s backs.

      • I gotta do what I gotta do – and right now that is looking after the people I care for.

      • Sean McLaren

        I used to play pen and paper Dungeons and Dragons back in the day. In one of the worlds there’s an evil underground race called the Drow, and my Dungeon Master pointed out to me that the Drow could conquer the world any time they choose, they could just never hold it, because they fall to infighting and backstabbing, and the people of the rest of the world hang together, are there for each other and work together.

        • starkitty

          Old table top RPGers here too. *waves*

        • Jennifer R

          They also take non regenerateable damage from the sun.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Same in D&D Online.

    • starkitty

      Still stunned and embalmed over here. It’s not a bad thing. Hyper-vigilant level headedness is what got me though a challenging childhood. I did kinda think that was in the past tho…..

    • Pinkham’s Law

      still a bit numb, but starting see some hints of anger now and then. I think I’m going to feed that anger, then use it as fuel. There’s no force like Righteous Anger. I plan to harness it.

      • That’s the spirit! Hot anger is useless. Cold, tranquil fury? Oh, that is potent stuff.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    So, this happened: I was slowly making my way back to Wonkette, and the picture of our beautiful, amazing, gracious, brilliant president shaking hands with the spray-tanned half-orangutan Hitler Jr. came up. And I literally started ugly crying so hard I fell on the floor and wailed and howled. Then I read the comments and I found that, instead of being weird, I’m just late.

    • cousin itt

      (((hugs))))

      I know that feeling.

    • Suse

      I cried most of yesterday, now I’m just pissed as hell.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        I keep alternating back and forth.

        • Suse

          I’ve never, ever felt exactly like this.

        • Jennifer R

          This a thousand times.

        • WomanInAMood

          This^^^

      • Pissed is good! Harness that anger – it’s dead useful.

    • Treg Brown

      *hugs*

      I know.

    • Vincent Ricola

      I can’t even bring myself to look at those pictures yet. Poor Obama, worked so hard for this country just to have a bunch of racists send him out of office with a big middle finger. Too soon.

  • Juan de Payaso

    Nailed it Robyn! Maybe as part of our continued fight we can pressure our public schools to introduce new courses on how international trade and economic policy actually works and how it doesn’t work at all the way Trump thinks it does. Throw that in with required critical thinking classes because how in the fuck did Trump win on a platform that largely attacked China for trade deficits and slapping tariffs on everybody. Also encourage our history teachers to focus an entire quarter on Herbert Hoover.

    How did this guy get through Wharton? Forget his taxes, I wanna see this guy’s college research papers and run them all through turnitin.com.

    • Bec Jenn

      Alas, one of the things he lied about but the media let it pass.

      • Juan de Payaso

        They could’ve even broke it down at the same third grade level that Trump and his followers read at (hell, that I sometimes read at, depending upon how many IPA’s I’ve had – don’t judge):

        If China makes hundreds of thousands of iPhones for America at $10 per phone and American companies are making $400 per phone, is America really getting a raw deal?

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