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Donald Trump is bad at many things: He is bad at business, and human decency, and words. It will not shock you to learn he is also bad at “Constitution,” because you have ears and eyes and have paid attention when he said he wants to “open up the libel laws” so “when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money. When The New York Times writes a hit piece which is a total disgrace or when The Washington Post, which is there for other reasons, writes a hit piece, we can sue them and win money instead of having no chance of winning because they’re totally protected.”

Trump’s wife, Melania, has already begun suing websites for reporting claims made in biographies that she was a call girl. Most, but not all, capitulated with a groveling quickness. (She’s using the same lawyer who sued Gawker to death, and who knows his way around bullying the press.) But now the Trumps are picking on someone their own size, and The New York Times‘s lawyers are peeing their pants. But with laughter, instead of fear.

Poor Donald Trump. Some days it’s so hard to be a stupid bully. Like when a whole trumpload of women call up a newspaper in outrage because they just watched the presidential nominee of one of the United States of America’s two major political parties claim on television with a straight face that he has never, ever assaulted a woman sexually, because of how he has to answer that question because of how he was accidentally caught on video bragging about it, and the newspaper interviews them and the people they told about it at the time, and then prints their allegations! That is a bad day to try to throw your ignorance about the First Amendment around, I guess!

Lawsplain the Trump lawyer idiot, please, New York Times:

new-york-times-response-letter

Dear Mr. Kasowitz:

I write in response to your letter of October 12, 2016 to Dean Baquet concerning your client Donald Trump, the Republican Party nominee for President of the United States. You write concerning our article “Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately” and label the article as “libel per se.” You ask that we “remove it from [our] website and issue a full and immediate retraction and apology.” We decline to do so.

The essence of a libel claim, of course, is the protection of one’s reputation. Mr. Trump has bragged about his non-consensual sexual touching of women. He has bragged about intruding on beauty pageant contestants in their dressing rooms. He acquiesced to a radio host’s request to discuss Mr. Trump’s own daughter as a “piece of ass.” Multiple women not mentioned in our article have publicly come forward to report on Mr. Trump’s unwanted advances. Nothing in our article has had the slightest effect on the reputation that Mr. Trump, through his own words and actions, has already created for himself.
[our bold, because it is awesome]

But there is a larger and much more important point here. The women quoted in our story spoke out on an issue of national importance — indeed, an issue that Mr. Trump himself discussed with the whole nation watching during Sunday night’s presidential debate. Our reporters diligently worked to confirm the women’s accounts. They provided readers with Mr. Trump’s response, including his forceful denial of the women’s reports. It would have been a disservice not just to our readers but to democracy itself to silence their voices. We did what the law allows: We published newsworthy information about a subject of deep public concern. If Mr. Trump disagrees, if he believes that American citizens had no right to hear what these women had to say and that the law of this country forces us and those who would dare to criticize him to stand silent or be punished, we welcome the opportunity to have a court set him straight.

Sincerely,
David E. McCraw

David E. McCraw forgot only one thing in his lawsplainer, and that was that the New York Times LITERALLY INVENTED the First Amendment right to report on public officials and public figures, in NYT vs. Sullivan.

They know a couple of things about Constitutional rights.

Trump’s lawyers, meanwhile, are fucking idiots who think by definition you can’t rape your own wife, and that there’s “very clear case law.” (In fact, there is very clear case law, and it says the opposite.)

That’s because Donald Trump’s ex-wife swore under oath that he violently raped her while yanking locks of her hair out of her head.

This is also your periodic reminder that Mitch McConnell is saving an open Supreme Court seat for Donald Trump to fill, the end.

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  • Ryan Denniston

    David McGraw wins the Internet.

    “Nothing in our article has had the slightest effect on the reputation that Mr. Trump, through his own words and actions, has already created for himself.”

    • Oblios_Cap

      Me-ouch!

    • WIDTAP

      David McCraw – with a “C”. We need to get the name right to award next year’s Nobel Peace prize for exceptional lawyering to the right guy.

  • JMP

    I do hope he actually sues, and therefore opens himself up to discovery requirements – which also would provide an opening to getting around NDAs that he’s rumored to have pressured many of his victims into signing.

  • Callyson
  • Oblios_Cap

    Why in the world would anyone expect a President to know anything about constitutional law?
    –Trump supporters everywhere.

    • JVisconti

      You’ve got your 2nd amendment. Then you’ve got your 2nd amendment … ad infinitum.

  • anna rampage

    Holy shit, the NYT trolls Trump’s lawyers in the most brilliant, and amazing way, and quite honestly, with the facts pointed out about the NYT, there not a legal leg for Trump to stand on…

  • Indiepalin

    If Trump really wants to sue the Times he should hire Liza Minnelli’s lawyers.

    • Oblios_Cap

      He might actually have to pay them. He probably has a tab with these guys. One he’ll walk out on.

  • Spotts1701

    I sense a flaw in Mr. Trump’s cunning plan.

    • Crank Tango

      Blackadder Libel!

  • Oblios_Cap

    Trump’s lawyers, meanwhile, are fucking idiots

    Actually true. A lot of their lawyers have been laid off over the last few years as the firm is circling the drain.

    • Bureaucrap

      Because Trump doesn’t pay them, and hires other lawyers to defend against THEIR lawsuits, continuing the chain ad infinitum…

  • Vincent Ricola

    “… we welcome the opportunity to have a court set him straight.”

    *swoon*

  • Gayer Than Thou
  • JVisconti

    To borrow a theme, Lock him up in a place where no ‘her’ is within grasp.

  • Tallmutha

    That was badass.

    OT, but with all the assholes in the news sucking up all the asshole oxygen, sometimes we forget about the other assholes in our midst.

    https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/786537269997899777

    • Pickle Truther (AntiDerpomeme)

      ROFL, what a tool!

    • Spotts1701

      How in the world are people this obtuse still alive? You would have figured they’d have drowned in a rainstorm or something by now.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/430f74736d018f10cc151f5db794885d43f0366ac4e200629423382cfb0c4cc4.gif

    • To which, I would reply, were I on Twitter: Go fuck yourself, felon.

    • jowgajen

      And his point is what?

      • Tallmutha

        If I had to guess, I would say it’s that it is fine for the CEO of Miss Universe to walk into the women’s dressing room.

        • fka_donnie_d

          Sure it is

          When it’s fucking unoccupied, douchewad

          • Gayer Than Thou

            You mean Dinesh Douchewad, right?

          • fka_donnie_d

            Yes

            Yes I do

          • SmokinGood

            Show some respect. It’s Dinesh D’ouchewad.

            All Punctuation Matters.

      • Oblios_Cap

        He needs a cap to hide the fact that he has no point at all…

      • wavicles

        The point IS that all these months the Right’s been howling that Trans people will be acosting our daughters and sons in restrooms and oh, the horror.
        THIS is ‘just words’ or whatever..and anyway, e-mails.

    • Vincent Ricola

      I’m laughing so hard that it’s making me cry at my desk. This might be the stupidest thing I’ve heard all day and that’s saying something because I’ve had CNN on for background noise.

    • Callyson

      Dinesh honey?

      Trans women are not men.

      You’re welcome.

      /FFS

    • Wild Cat

      I think Eric Segal really got the plot for “Love Story” from D’Souza and Laura “Hotsie Totsie” Ingraham’s 12-second tryst at Dartmouth.

    • mancityfooty

      I’m glad to see that prison hasn’t changed him and that he’s still the despicable person we all knew and loathed from before.

    • Oblios_Cap

      I wonder why he imagines anybody gives a rat’s ass what he thinks.

      • Gayer Than Thou

        Well, he is a major documentary film maker, so…

      • Tallmutha

        Me too, although in fairness that’s probably what I think of 99.9% of the people who have Twitter accounts.

    • mackafritz

      Sharp as the leading edge of a bowling ball he is.

    • btwbfdimho

      Guiliani doesn’t remember seeing Trump in a woman’s bathroom.
      https://s3.amazonaws.com/wp-ag/wp-content/uploads/sites/72/2015/08/TrumpRudy1.gif

    • Hrmm, you’d think convicted felons would at least have their blue checkmark removed…

    • btwbfdimho
    • btwbfdimho

      By the end of Hillary’s second administration there will be four public restrooms:

      1. Women
      2. Men
      3. Transexuals
      4. Abominables/Deplorables

      • A LITtle Annoyed, Yet ARoused

        Imagine the toe tapping that will be going on in the Deplorable Men’s room.

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      “Oh this asshole again” bunny in 3…2…1

    • Good_Trouble_Yall
    • Blank Ron, Avenger of Ponies

      Mr. D’Souza? Your 15 minutes is over. Please exit by the rear doors or our concierge will be forced to remove you bodily.

  • Callyson

    If Donald does sue, here’s hoping the case is assigned to a Latino judge. Wish it could be Gonzalo Curiel!

    • Gayer Than Thou

      A Latina judge! Paging Martha Vázquez…

      • Callyson

        If he appeals to SCOTUS, Sonia Sotomayor can write the opinion!

  • WIDTAP

    David E. McGraw – the dotter of every “i”, crosser of every “t” and the checker of every box. You don’t want to fuck with David E. McGraw.

  • Scooby

    See also: Trump v. Peice of Ass 29US152 (1991)

  • It’s strangely beautiful how good lawyers can use pretty non-vulgar words to say, “Go fuck yourself.”

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      I heard a brilliant example this morning (quoted to the best of my recollection): “Your Honor, [Counsel’s] repeated interruptions convince me that he really insists on speaking on my behalf. I appreciate his zealousness, but I’ve reviewed his most recent motion, and I think he needs to spend more time working on his own case. His paralegal seems to need some help with legal research.”

      • Anna Elizabeth

        *burn*

      • alanb

        My favorite is from the Cleveland Browns general counsel James N. Bailey in 1974: “Attached is a letter that we received on November 19, 1974. I feel that you should be aware that some asshole is signing your name to stupid letters.”

    • SnarkOff

      I secretly love lawyers. The best ones are badass alpha motherfuckers who would have been Wall Streeters if they weren’t better at English than math.

      • IdRatherBeDancing

        Why thank you — I have written a few of those types of letters/e-mails. It is a great catharsis.

        • SnarkOff

          I’ve had a few of you write those letters on my behalf, and it is so gratifying, like having your dad walk over to your adversary and say, “You fucking with my kid?”

      • IdRatherBeDancing

        Oh, and doing the same thing on a conference call is also a very beautiful thing as well!

        • Vericima

          Oh, that sounds glorious!

    • Ima Witstüp

      I think that letter translates to “We wish a motherfucker would.”

    • Paganish

      Poetry.

    • FeloniousMonk

      Indeed. That’s why this replaces my previous favourite example of a reply to a libel threat, where Private Eye apparently didn’t bother with its lawyers. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/646391f567f11fbea08a576c374abf04662aa5fec8623b7bd64f98102fe55db5.png

  • Gayer Than Thou

    Some Trump staffer just got sent out with a moving van to buy enough burn cream at CVS.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Chris Christie is not just “some Trump staffer.”

      • Thiazin Red

        I bet hes glad he decided to humiliate himself be being Trump’s errand boy.

      • IdRatherBeDancing

        He may be busy with his criminal defense lawyer.

  • Crystalclear12

    OK, kinda awesome.

  • MynameisBlarney
  • elviouslyqueer
  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Not quite “Fuck off; Strongly worded letter to follow,” but not bad.

  • Blacktop Cadence

    I get the feeling the media is done making money off this barely human shit stain.

    • Callyson

      If Disqus weren’t having issues uploading images (WTF?) I’d insert my “it’s about fucking time” one here.

    • Gayer Than Thou

      Done making money with him, but I bet there is still some coin to be made by reporting on his meltdown.

      http://i.imgur.com/glLHHLw.gif

    • Thiazin Red

      I think the fake press conference/hotel infomercial really soured press relations.

      • DainBramage

        That seemed like a turning point to me too.

      • BadKitty904

        The time-line on the worm finally turning is remarkably coincidental…

      • girlscientist

        I’m pretty sure the Washington Post got really pissed of when he yanked their credentials. The rest of the media followed after the infomercial/press conference.

  • Thiazin Red

    Off topic, but I still have no idea why people are upset about Gawker being put out of business. Releasing a sex tape made without someone’s consent is a disgusting violation, no matter what you think of the participants or the person supplying the money. They should have been sued, it was a foul thing to do.

    • WIDTAP

      Are you saying Hulk Hogan kept fucking that chicken?

    • SnarkOff

      The meta-issue is very disturbing. It basically opens up every media outlet to libel suits funded by pissed-off billionaires. It is very hard to win a libel suit, but it would be very easy to run a media organization, even a big one, into the ground, if you had enough money and a big enough chip on your shoulder.

      • Thiazin Red

        So don’t break the law?

        • jowgajen

          Also I don’t recall the details but I seem to remember the billionaire had some good reason to be pissed off?

          • Thiazin Red

            They outed him without his consent.

          • jowgajen

            Yeah as a middle aged queer I’m not ok with that. With the notable exception of public officials actively harming other queers.

          • anna rampage

            I’m not okay with that either, but I don’t think that in regards to either case, that gawker should have had any legal or civil liability in the end…

          • Spotts1701

            And he went to court and the court told him “too bad, so sad, case dismissed”. Which is what sometimes happens. He decided that because he lost, he’d circumvent the process by bankrolling others.
            Oh, and at the same time, he continues to hold himself out as a defender of press freedom. That’s at best hypocritical and at worst shameful.

          • Blacktop Cadence

            The whole Gawker thing is what happens when shitty people go after one another.

            Edit: Gawker comments were pretty amazing, though. Not as good as Wonkette, but man could I get a good laugh.

          • Spotts1701

            Which I will concede the point that they did some really bad things and deserved to suffer punishment for those bad things. But the level of punishment really does present a question of whether allowing the tactics employed here create a “chilling effect”.

          • SnarkOff

            It’s only scary if you think billionaires are assholes.

          • SnarkOff
        • SnarkOff

          Ok, try to think critically about this for a moment. Gawker did invade Hogan’s privacy and deserved to be sued. But plenty of other publications publish damming material that isn’t libelous or an invasion of privacy but, in fact, a public service — like the allegations against Trump. The idea that Peter Thiel, a billionaire who didn’t like Gawker, took it upon himself to ruin the entire company, is deeply troubling. What if Theil next decides to ruin the Times? What about if he decides to go after Wonkette, or your little blog, if you have one?

    • Crank Tango

      Thank You. If Gawker had been the ones to release JLaw’s bunghole pics, no one would have had a problem with suing them into oblivion.

    • jowgajen

      I’m not upset. I accept and agree with the old boundaries in public discourse shifting, but publishing a private tape of consensual sex without permission was way over the line.

    • rebecca

      Agree, and agree with the guilty verdict.

      DONT agree with being put out of business for it, financed by secret vendetta.

  • SnarkOff

    Am guessing that upon getting the order to draft a letter to the Times, Trump’s lawyer rolled his eyes, sighed loudly, thought, “Not the baseless libel shit again,” wrote the letter and collected a big, fat, well-deserved fee for putting up with Trump.

    • mancityfooty

      just change the name at the top, like the last 20 times

      • Blacktop Cadence

        Yeah, dude’s got a template saved by now.

    • JVisconti

      Double the hourly fee. He is so shifty, 2 lawyers are req’d.
      http://abovethelaw.com/2016/10/trumps-lawyers-really-dont-trust-him/
      Q: You are meeting with your client?
      A: That’s right. Your client. Hey, Trump is a leader in the field of expert—he’s an expert at interpreting things. Let’s put it that way.
      We tried to do it with Donald always if we could because Donald says certain things and then has a lack of memory.

    • BadKitty904

      My EXACT thought – either Trump’s lawyers are incredibly incompetent or they’re scamming him, like good Republicans, for $$$.

      Or both.

  • Crank Tango
    • Thiazin Red

      New campaign slogan: Trump even worse than the characters on Always Sunny.

      • mancityfooty

        I know who I’d rather hang out with.

  • DoILookAmused2u ?
    • Vecchiojohn

      How does that grab your pussy, Donny boy?

  • aureolaborealis

    This is all part of the regional bully, con-artist, pathological liar, sexual predator (and his organization) going national, and not realizing that the big fish in the big pond do not play the same way the small fish in the small pond did.

  • Anna Elizabeth

    IANAL, but that, Y’all, is how to say “Fuck You” in legalese. Well Done, Mr. McCraw.

  • Michael Smith

    BAM!

  • LesBontemps

    Trump’s lawyers, meanwhile, are fucking idiots who think by definition you can’t rape your own wife, and that there’s “very clear case law.” (In fact, there is very clear case law, and it says the opposite.)

    These are different lawyers. Although also a well-known bunch of douchenozzles, and apparently not very good with the whole First Amendment thingy either.

    • rebecca

      oh, I didn’t mean to imply it was the same lawyer. i just didn’t care enough to differentiate them, as they are all A idiot.

  • DainBramage

    I was struck by this:
    “…they just watched the presidential nominee of one of the United States of America’s two major political parties…”
    Hopefully after this election, the Republican Party will cease to be a major political party.

  • PimentacoTX
    • limberrat

      When did it become WND???

    • Vincent Ricola

      Were they hacked?

    • DainBramage

      Trump: “Mother Teresa’s nuns? Wouldn’t touch ’em. Not a 10 in the lot.”

    • FlownOver

      I’m guessing “another Russki hack.”

    • anna rampage

      Looks like they got hacked…

      • limberrat

        Yeah, thats what it looks like.

      • PimentacoTX

        Wells, both Newsmax and Christian News Service had similar headlines, but yeah – I no clicky that way.

    • The Wanderer

      Hillary was born Methodist. That makes her automatically anathema.

    • SnarkOff

      Maybe the author of this column was the last person left on Earth willing to write for HuffPo for free?

  • AJ Milne

    Shorter:

    Trump: I have a reputation to protect!

    McCraw: I and my client are well aware of your reputation. And confident this story has only reinforced it.

    • eddi

      Shortest:
      Trump: I have a reputation to protect!
      McCraw: Not anymore.

      • laineypc

        Trump: I have a reputation to protect!
        NYT: Glad we can help.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Meanwhile, back in 2006….

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141596631

    I guess trump never figured things he said mattered.

  • kindness

    Trump himself is no longer comical. His rabid followers however are a gift to troll. Why, one doesn’t even have to do more than repeat true statements and they get all butt hurt and bent out of shape. Just today I made an accurate post on FB under the Rassmussen Report & their new poll showing Donald winning. The outpouring of bile was overwhelming. I ended up having to delink from the post because so many ‘talented individuals’ decided to follow me around (with words at other groups).

  • That letter is a thing of beauty.

  • Joe Beese

    Speaking in messianic terms, Donald Trump painted himself as the target of a vast “conspiracy” and the last hope for a civilization at a crossroads at a rally here on Thursday afternoon. ….

    “I take all of these slings and arrows gladly for you. I take them for our movement so that we can have our country back,” he said. “Our great civilization … has come upon a moment of reckoning.” …

    The stakes of the movement, in Trump’s view, are existential. “This is a struggle for the survival of our nation,” he said.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-conspiracy-accusations-229750

    • limberrat

      Will his next speech include the Rothschild Conspiracy?

      • Joe Beese

        Ein Volk! Ein Reich! Ein Trump!

        • natoslug

          I still can’t decide if he thinks he’s Hitler, Jesus, or Connor MacLeod.

          • TJ Barke

            Aot,K.

      • MynameisBlarney

        If he don’t mention the Bildegbergs , then he’s lost my vote.

        • Joe Beese

          A disgusting group of people who, quite frankly, should be ashamed of themselves.

          • MynameisBlarney

            They’re too rich to be ashamed, Joe.

        • Oblios_Cap

          The Illuminati or STFU

          • ImGoingBacon

            The Guild of Calamitous Intent on line one for you, Mr. Trump.

          • PimentacoTX

            Ha! Catching up on Venture Bros. right now.

    • Spotts1701

      Okay, so we’re changing it from “political party” to “cult”. That’s not immensely terrifying or anything, right?

    • Lefty Frizzell

      I think we’ve picked the end off the toilet roll and it’s unwinding it’s way down a steep hill, gathering speed…

    • natoslug

      “Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him,” Trump continued, “For as you know, THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!”

    • Lefty Frizzell

      There’s a kangaroo loose in the upstairs paddock.

      • Joe Beese

        Not all the tennis balls are in the can.

        • MynameisBlarney

          One sammich shy of a picnic.

    • Lefty Frizzell

      His cheese has slipped off his cracker

      • Oblios_Cap

        All that cocaine done drove the poor fucker nuts.

        • eddi

          I think he uses something stronger.

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      Yes the martyrdom and victimhood made Nixon blush from Hell.

    • Antonin Dvorak

      I have a hard time believing he actually quoted Shakespeare.

    • revenant

      come down off the cross, Donald- this Jewish guy here says it’s his and he wants it back

  • BreakingDeadMen

    The law firm of Miller, Miller and Miller strikes out again.

    • revenant

      he should have stuck with Hungadunga, Hungadunga, Hungadunga and McCormick. those guys know how to shyster

  • amindofitsown

    So, now that Trump’s campaign is crashing and burning, I think the only question that remains is: will Trump’s campaign be totally obliterated by November 8th, or still smoldering?

    • Blacktop Cadence

      It does have all the qualities of a long running tire yard fire.

      • LesBontemps

        Most notably the smell.

    • JMP

      And will he bring down the rest of the Republican party so far that the good guys can actually take back the House, not just the Senate?

    • MynameisBlarney

      I still think he’ll drop out at the last minute, either due to legal proceedings against him or due to the fact that he will have reached limit of his attention span for any one thing, and he’ll go back to hangin’ out with Vince McMahon.

      • harryr

        Can he now, given that some states have already, I’m told, opened advance voting?

        • MynameisBlarney

          Oh he can’t legally, of course. But when has that kinda shit stopped him?

          • revenant

            laws, taxes, ordinary rules of civilized behavior; all beneath him.

            and we are the “elitists” for noticing and complaining about it

    • laineypc

      Kinda feel bad for Hillary that she didn’t get the chance to win against a real opponent, but I am sure the feeling won’t last.

  • It was absolutely not a trumpload of women, as a trumpload is so small as to be invisible to the naked eye.

  • BadKitty904

    “Open up” = “repeal”? OK, got it.

  • Bear OmNomNom

    Justice McCraw. I like the sound of that…

    • Jeffocaster in the desert

      Quick Draw McCraw

      • MynameisBlarney

        El Kabong?

  • Callyson

    Got something funny for us, <a href ="http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-flynt-says-he-may-move-to-canada-if-1476300226-htmlstory.html&quot;LA Times linky?

    Publisher Larry Flynt, a longtime Democratic supporter, said he may leave the country if Donald Trump wins the White House.

    “The thought of Donald Trump becoming president nauseates me in a big way,” Flynt said in an interview with Toronto-based HOSS magazine. Asked what he would do if Trump wins, he replied, “I don’t know, maybe move to Canada.”

    Trump is officially too sleazy for Larry Flynt. Let that sink in…

    • Jeffocaster in the desert

      But but it is an HONEST sleaze.

      • H0mer0

        [when sometimes, only a point blank shot of a vagina will do]

    • dansezlajavanaise

      larry flynt knows how the sausage got made.

  • LesBontemps

    Kasowitz represents cigarette manufacturers, asbestos producers and groundwater polluters. As a toxic waste himself, Trump fits in naturally with the clientele.

  • FlownOver

    Put the kittens on the ground and step back. NOW!

  • MynameisBlarney
  • DoILookAmused2u ?

    Anybody have any idea what Donald Trump is trying to do now that it no longer appears that he is running for President?

    • Lefty Frizzell

      Flailing

      • dansezlajavanaise

        failing.

    • Blacktop Cadence

      Andy Kaufman style performance art?

      Back to sleaze peddling?

      Clearing out his bank accounts and buying a ticket to Moscow?

      • The Wanderer

        He can set up a Yuuuuge dacha on the Black Sea.

        • eddi

          Until the Russian Mafia stops by to collect on the loan.

      • fka_donnie_d

        I will bet money I do not have at this point on him making a network to compete with Faux.

    • anna rampage

      He’s stoking up support from the alt right so that he can launch a alt right focused cable station… Kind of what Plain & Beck both tried and failed to do…

    • MynameisBlarney

      It appears that he is gesticulating wildly and foaming at the mouth a bit.
      Why do you ask?

    • DainBramage

      He’s trying to destroy the GOP and, if possible, the country that doesn’t recognize his “genius.”

    • elviouslyqueer

      Doodling “I ♥ Vlad P” in his Trapper Keeper, over and over and over and over and over again?

      • aureolaborealis

        “Mr. Donald Putin
        Mr. Donald Putin
        Mr. Donald Putin …”

        • elviouslyqueer

          “Me and Vlady sitting in a tree…”

          • eddi

            P-L-O-T-T-I-N-G

          • MynameisBlarney

            *F-R-O-T-T-I-N-G

            ftfy

          • IdRatherBeDancing

            F-U-C-K-I-N-G

          • JustDon’tSayPu55y

            F-A-I-L-I-N-G

    • Brendan_M

      Don’t count him out yet. Once he burns down the Reichstag, he’s back in this thing!

    • Bitter Scribe

      Set up a cable news channel that will give it to you straight, unlike those liberal pussies at Fox News.

      • Jamoche

        All the upvotes.

    • btwbfdimho

      He’s going back full-time teaching at the Trump University.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Planning an invasion of Ethiopia?

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      Looking for designers of rubber rooms?

    • MynameisBlarney

      Going to Russia to shop for his new trophy wife?

      • Dee Andee

        Considering he knows we know she knows he’s a groper, she’s also toast. Plus, damn, she’s getting so OLD!

        • MynameisBlarney

          INORITE!

      • dansezlajavanaise

        yeah, it doesn’t look like putin will be sending him his daughter anymore.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Nyet.

        • BreakingDeadMen

          It’s a new cudgel for him to use against his critics. “Siberia? You wish. You stop criticize Putin or your daughter goes to America for Donald Trump.”

    • laineypc

      Hiring shady types to frame Hillary for all the things.

  • Tallmutha
    • eddi

      Imagine his surprise.

    • jmk

      There’s a first time for everything.

  • Joshua Norton
  • Jeffocaster in the desert

    Trump for lawyers has many
    And lawsuits he has aplenty
    Sue for libel he says
    As he goes off the rez
    “Fuck you” NY Times says “NOT A PENNY.”

  • Shoto
  • IdRatherBeDancing

    Oh, please — We all know that the NYT, Hillary Clinton and the international bankers (read Joos) are in a conspiracy to end our national sovereignty. How do we know this?

    Donald J. Trump told us so. That’s who!

    • MynameisBlarney

      The AMERO is happening!

      WAKE UP SHEEEPLE!!!

      *eye twitch*

      • TJ Barke

        Does that mean we can haz universal healthcare?

        • MynameisBlarney

          NOE!
          U NOE CAN HAZ DAT!

          • TJ Barke

            Rats…

          • MynameisBlarney

            Those you can haz.

          • TJ Barke

            They’re hard to catch, cagey little bastards…

          • MynameisBlarney

            Aye, they are a wily creature indeed.

  • LesBontemps

    Jeez, you’d think Trump would be happy to have the Times confirm at least one thing he’s said as actually being true.

  • Gentle Robot

    As awful as this is, it’s pathetic that we had to get to here to really damage a dangerous demagogue like Trump. Someone is going to come around soon with his ideas and without his scandal-ridden past.

    • Logic of Color

      And even slightly more eloquent would be scary.

      • Lefty Frizzell

        Even slightly less eloquent would be fucking hilarious, albeit completely incoherent.

    • anna rampage

      You mean like Ted Cruz, or Rick Santorum, or Mike Pence, or Carly Fiorina, or just about everyone else in the 2016 GOP primaries?

      • Gentle Robot

        How many of those candidates said Saudi Arabia and Japan should get nukes? That’s the tip of the iceberg. Saying Trump is a typical Republican nullifies the major threat we just dodged.

    • MynameisBlarney

      I think we are seeing the last days of the GOP as we know it.
      Sure, there will be some extremist offshoot of it, but they’ll be even less popular than the dumbass libertarians.

      • SullivanSt

        I don’t think the GOP that we see today is going anywhere fast, sadly – by which I mean the primal scream of whites seeing their unearned privilege slipping away and deeply furious about it. They’re too few to win nationally, but too many to disappear in a hurry. And now that they’ve taken over a major party, they’re not going to let it go.

        Remember the GOP controls most of the states at this point in time. That’s too much power for these people to relinquish. Until the electoral reality becomes they can’t control anything and have no prospect of doing so, they will linger.

        • laineypc

          I fear the primal scream people will just dismiss the legitimacy of our democracy further (because it’s all a conspiracy) and not bother with things like parties, elections or the rule of law.

        • artem1s

          It didn’t take the Whigs long to disappear into the dustbin of history. the tea-know-nothings will skulk around in the corners always waiting for a nice ripe patch of rot to spring up again. The GOP’s fate depends on whether the money grifters like the Koch’s decide to keep the name or just rebrand under a new logo I guess.

          • SullivanSt

            Problem is they spent 50 years thinly veiling racism with the language of conservatism that their voters can no longer distinguish text from subtext. I see no room for a new center-right party to establish itself in the space between the white nationalists and the Democratic Party. Which leaves their only hope of salvation in wresting the party back from Trumpism, but the Trumpists outnumber them and aren’t likely to let go now they have their stubby little fingers wrapped around the throat of a major party.

            The Whigs died fast because slavery was the defining issue of the day, because they were roughly equally divided on the issue, because the Republican Party was able to establish itself as Whigs-except-abolitionist, and because the difference between them and the Democratic Party of the day was narrow enough that slavers could jump the gap pretty easily. How do you have a non-racist Conservative party when American conservatism has for so long defined itself by policies which across the board disproportionately adversely affect African-Americans? Does anyone think the non-Trumpists rival the Trumpists in number? Can you imagine significant numbers of Republicans crossing the aisle?

            I think we need to brace ourselves for a prolonged thrashing around of this rump.

    • SullivanSt

      The thing is, the scandal-ridden past is inherently tied with the severe personality disorder – and it was the severe personality disorder that won him the nomination. It’s nearly impossible to imagine someone who could give that base what they crave without having a scandal-ridden past.

      The terrifying possibility is the next one would have had enough intelligence to avoid leaving so much evidence.

      • BreakingDeadMen

        Kasich is plenty extreme, and he would be winning if the people weren’t so off the frickin’ rails.

        • SullivanSt

          Remember, despite hanging in ’til the bitter end, Kasich never managed to catch Rubio in the delegate count. Rubio!

          And his hopelessness was precisely because he seemed superficially sane. (Of course once you actually paid attention to the words, different story entirely)

          Thing is while he’s extreme, and his policies would hurt women and minorities as much as any Republican’s, he didn’t discuss them in terms of white nationalism. The base appears to now demand that their candidates do.

          • BreakingDeadMen

            Which is something we have going for us; the people who vote in the primaries can’t figure out that is self-defeating.

      • H0mer0

        Dubya already did….

        • Pisto75666

          Yeah but Dubya has the luxury of being somewhat of a likeable idiot. Trump has no such luxury

          • H0mer0

            akshully, a journalist (I don’t have the citation, only the story that a patient heard from a friend and so on and….) used to think that Dubya was an amiable idiot until he met him and realized he was neither.

          • Pisto75666

            And here I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

  • SullivanSt

    Donald Trump is bad at many things: He is bad at business, and human decency, and words.

    Lies! Donald Trump is not bad at human decency. He has never even attempted it!

    • Carpe Vagenda

      That documentary, The Choice, that everyone was pointing me at a few weeks ago? Had a story about a neighbor of little pre-school Trump coming out to the yard to find him using her infant’s playpen as a target to throw rocks at with the kid inside.

      He’s not right.

      • SullivanSt

        Human decency is only, like, a 4, he won’t have anything to do with it.

      • Dee Andee

        Jesus. Skip small animal torture and go right to small human torture.

      • Lefty Frizzell

        Excitable Boy

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Lulz. As if Donald Drumpf had a reputation to sully.

  • tihond

    Bring back BOFA!

  • Carpe Vagenda

    Bloomberg says Trump refused to let his campaign do opposition research on him.

    • Rick Hill

      Or maybe there was a lot of “Oh. Wow. He really….Oh…maybe this will never come up.”

      • GoutMachine

        Or maybe they did and they’ve all been crying in a fetal position off in a corner somewhere for the last year.

    • Wild Cat

      Trump was afraid it would be discovered that he was cis gendered.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        I’m kind of fascinated by the idea that he’s manly. He partakes in the most performative version of manliness I’ve ever seen outside a rat pack movie, which is probably where he learned it.

        • Historicat

          I think Donny is still trying to deal with not having his father’s respect and approval. He’s flailing around, trying to be a “real man”.

    • eddi

      If he had let them they would have shipped Donnie to Moscow, COD.

    • Jamoche

      “Come on, it’s not like it’ll hurt me. Look at those crowds, they’re loving it!”

    • Toomush_Infer

      Pretty sure his campaign has never seen his taxes…

    • laineypc

      He told us he was going to do things differently, not like politicians. How’s that working for ya? (Sarah Palin voice)

    • Greg Comlish

      Ha, that is hilarious. What an idiot

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Because they would run from the room, screaming?

  • Rick Hill

    In Sinatra’s later years, I heard one comic describe meeting him. His entourage intercepted him and said “If Frank takes a swing at you, act like he knocks you down.” Sure enough, Frank swung, guy takes a dive then they’re all buddy buddy. I see trump like this when he gets older: “If donald says he’s going to sue you, act like you’re terrified…”

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      Ya, but the NYT does not seem to be too terrified. More like pointing and laughing.

    • mailman27

      Siddown, junior.

  • BadKitty904
  • TheGrandWaz00

    Well, Trump certainly got a harumph outta that guy.

  • anon_the_great

    I suspect the Grey Lady is baiting the orange moron into a juicy deposition.

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      Discovery will be a circus show. No way he sues.

      • JustDon’tSayPu55y

        Sad, but likely true.
        Dang it. That would have tripled my popcorn futures overnight.

    • BeachLoafer

      I’m certain the Times would be absolutely ecstatic for Trump to actually follow through on this particular threat!

  • Dog Gone

    God bless the New York sassy ass Times! Hell that was a great response.

    I can only look forward to more joy to come, because I doubt that Trump has the smarts to shut up and stand down Let’s look at this as merely the opening salvo of a stupid storm of shit coming from whining Donald Trump.

    And that on top of the fiasco of him quoting the Russians faked email from the leaky people who don’t apparently care about factual accuracy and have sadly so disgraced their credibility.

    This is really a great month to watch the Trump campaign circle round and round and then flush the rest of the way down the toilet. He is so deserving of this public ridicule and the despair of the detestable deplorables who support him.

    Yippeee! And three cheers for the ‘gray lady” of New York, as big a beacon for freedom as that other lady, the verdigris Statue of Liberrty. They just served up Donald trump a heaping order of the red white and blues.

    • Pisto75666

      Much as I’d like to share in the sentiment, I’m not so sure we’re over the hump yet. Those deplorables are like a Hydra. For every one who turns against Trump, you’ve got two others digging in their heels to support him.

  • anna rampage

    Uh oh, it appears Donald Rumpledforeskin just gave a speech at a rally in FL where he is being accused of using a lot of anti Semitic code words, and sentiments in his diatribe…

    • BadKitty904

      In FLORIDA??? OK, it’s way past time for an intervention. He’s become a danger to himself and – more importantly – others.

      • Wombat

        Well, let’s think about this for a minute. If he loses Florida for himself, is that really being a danger to, um, anyone? That’s a goddamn public service.

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      Heard it live — and yes.

    • Lefty Frizzell

      They’ll be lapping that up at AIPAC.

    • The Wanderer

      Oy, what a mamzer, I’m telling you.

    • Randy Riddle

      Yeah … connecting Hillary with the International Jewish Conspiracy ™. He also thought we should shut down the NY Times.

      Anti-Semitism _and_ outright fascism all in one afternoon speech.

    • Jukesgrrl

      Well, he’s safe then. We all know there aren’t any Jewish people in Florida.

      • malsperanza

        Srsly, of all states to pick for an antisemitic rant …

  • Redgyal

    But what I’m wondering is if he is self funding this lawsuit.

    • BadKitty904

      Not if he can possibly avoid it, I’m sure.

    • anna rampage

      That’s what foundations are for…

      • Jukesgrrl

        And campaign coffers.

    • BeachLoafer

      No attorney with enough of a brain to pass the bar exam would be stupid enough to take this one on on contingency. Then again, they probably have a blanket retainer with The Donald covering, say, 10 unfounded threats of legal action per month, or some such.

      • Wombat

        Buy ten, get the 11th free?

      • Jukesgrrl

        They better get paid in advance.

    • mailman27

      NYT is licking their (its?) chops over this bullshit. Trump is not going forward with this bullshit, it’s pablum for the base. The Times could fund the whole operation for a year from the stories generated by the discovery from a Trump lawsuit. Keep in mind, the man is a fraud.

  • Jen B_VA

    Trump threatens to sue other press, her press backs off.
    Trump threatens to sue NYT, NYT says lolz, we own your orange ass now. Dance, monkey, dance.

  • BeachLoafer

    We decline to do so.

    What a beautifully understated way to say “fuck you very much, and your client also, too.”

  • anwisok
  • Wombat

    It’s always so nice when the NYT lets their lawyers have a little fun.

  • DesertedPictures

    Beautifull thing is: once people see that a bullies threats are emptie, they stop being affraid.

    Never threaten someone with something, if you can’t follow true on it.

  • laineypc

    That was written with a great deal of gleefully understated snarkalicious satisfaction, I am sure.

    • jmk

      I guarantee that was handed around the office a time or two before it was sent… and I’d bet that Mr. McCraw will not have to buy his own beverages for a while.

      • SuspectedDemocrat

        He will, however, have to replace some beverage-soaked keyboards in the office.

  • Cindyinencinitas

    The rolled up newspaper that just smacked Dumpf in the head was, in fact, the New York Times!! What are the chances???

    • Shucky Ducky

      My cat pees in the sink. He is better behaved than Donald Trump.

      • GEMoore

        Yes, at least he doesn’t pee on everyone he meets.

      • Pisto75666

        The difference between cats & Trump? Both know they’re assholes but cats are at least classy about it.

      • Mickey Donovan

        If Drumpf was there in the bathroom, would he grab that pussy?

        • Shucky Ducky

          He’d better not unless he’s interested in having the orange clawed off of him.

          • Mickey Donovan

            Oh we can only imagine… and wish.

  • PortTaiLand
    • phoenix00

      An uncomfortable LOL, but still LOL

    • Tweeted it

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Oh my….

    • malsperanza

      oi

  • whitroth

    The Paper of Record, actually standing up to Trumpolini? As much a lousy, biased piece of shit as they’ve fallen to… this reminds me of the scene in The Rocketeer, where the Nazi troops are coming down from the zeppelin, and the FBI agent, and the mob boss bump into each other, and the mob boss says, “You may not like how I make my money… but I’m an AMERICAN!”, and they both start firing their tommy guns at the Nazis again.

    • malsperanza

      NYT loves this stuff. They really do see themselves as the white knight fighting on behalf of the First Amendment and they are more willing than any other paper, except maybe WaPo, to publish first and duke it out in the courts after. It’s braver now than it used to be, when the company was massively profitable and could risk a million-dollar judgment without a blink.

      Pentagon Papers, Frank Snepp’s exposé of the CIA in Vietnam, even fights they lost, like Westmorland’s lawsuit–they see these as a badge of honor. It’s one reason why I continue to subscribe to both print and digital–I want them to stay solvent.

  • andyshelt
    • WIDTAP

      A Lannister always pays his debts.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “Hillary Clinton has continued to elude us, despite all the resources we’ve pour into getting something on her. But shocking evidence against just shows up on our doorstep, when we aren’t even looking. Why is that?”
    — The New York Times

  • andyshelt

    The New York Times response is still not as good as the response to a legal threat by the UK satirical magazine Private Eye in the 1970s.
    …………………………………………………………………………………………….
    29th April 1971

    Dear Sir,
    We act for Mr Arkell who is Retail Credit Manager of Granada TV Rental
    Ltd. His attention has been drawn to an article appearing in the issue
    of Private Eye dated 9th April 1971 on page 4. The statements made about
    Mr Arkell are entirely untrue and clearly highly defamatory. We are
    therefore instructed to require from you immediately your proposals for
    dealing with the matter.

    Mr Arkell’s first concern is that there should be a full retraction at
    the earliest possible date in Private Eye and he will also want his
    costs paid. His attitude to damages will be governed by the nature of
    your reply.

    Yours,
    Goodman Derrick & Co.
    ——————————

    Dear Sirs,
    We acknowledge your letter of 29th April referring to Mr. J. Arkell.

    We note that Mr Arkell’s attitude to damages will be governed by the
    nature of our reply and would therefore be grateful if you would inform
    us what his attitude to damages would be, were he to learn that the
    nature of our reply is as follows: fuck off.

    Yours,

    Private Eye

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Especially remarkable considering British libel law.

    • mailman27

      So how’d it turn out? The language on both sides is both crisp and dismissive.

      • andyshelt

        The lawyers for Arkell dropped their threat of legal action and it became a running joke in Private Eye such that whenever future issues of the magazine were threatened with legal action they would respond with the stock response:

        “We refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkell v. Pressdram.”

        • mailman27

          Nice.

          • H0mer0

            one might think that Donnie would wanna do what his boyfriend Vlad would do which is order a hit on the journalist, or what the fundie muslims did to Charlie Hebdo.

  • Mehmeisterjr

    Fun fact: The New York Times, for all its faults and foibles, pays its attorneys in full and in a timely manner.

  • Manhattan123

    And then NYT counsel David McCraw just dropped the mic and walked off.

  • chazmanr

    And people say lawyers don’t have a sense of humor.

    • Well we had a regional firm of lawyers called Hitchcock and Scratchitt. Seriously.

  • Mavenmaven

    After the election, he is forming a legal company: Trump, Klayman, and Taitz.

    • Objectifer

      Makes Howard, Fine and Howard look pretty good.

      • Sue, Grabbit and Runne?

        • boll ocks

          Cheatem, Steele, and Konn.

        • revenant

          Dewey, Cheatham and Howe

      • Stulexington

        Wolfram and Heart?

  • TundraGrifter

    “David E. McCraw forgot only one thing in his lawsplainer, and that was that the New York Times LITERALLY INVENTED the First Amendment right to report on public officials and public figures, in NYT vs. Sullivan.”

    I would beg to differ a wee bit on that one.

    Newspapers in America have been reporting on public officials and public figures for a very long time. Back in the day – post-Colonial period – each major party owned a newspaper and they let the other guys have it with both barrels.

    Andrew Jackson shot and killed Charles Dickinson in a duel triggered (heh, heh) in part over newspaper articles Dickinson wrote. Who needs an attorney?

    The newspapers during the Civil War period were rather rough on Abraham Lincoln, calling him an ape, etc.

    The Gilded Age was raw, as well. Newspapers ran stories about major political figures with the bark on.

    New York Times vs. Sullivan codified the modern rules. But it had been going on for quite some time before that.

    • malsperanza

      Sullivan did more than just codify common practice. It was a significant broadening of First Amendment protection for the press, specifically establishing the concept of the public interest as weakening libel claims against public figures. The more public the figure, the more courts now lean toward the press’s right to publish. This was not always the case, since libel laws were originally written specifically to protect the reputations of people who had a public profile.

      The bar for proving libel if you are a presidential candidate is extremely high, which is why Bill Clinton never sued the assholes who said he had committed murder and so on.

      • TundraGrifter

        I am not an attorney – First Amendment or otherwise. I do have a BA in Journalism (post-Sullivan). I thought “LITERALLY INVENTED” was a bit thick.

        There is, of course, another reason not to sue – one Donald J. Chump never understands. Taking the matter to court just spreads the news and prolongs the news cycles. Sometimes, of course, it must be done.

        But it just isn’t smart to respond to every slight day after day after day. Lighten up, Frances!

        • Kooolest G

          I’m also not a lawyer, or have any idea what I’m talking about, but I think I heard somebody on the teevee say that in order to prove libel, trump would have to prove the charges are false, which would involve him testifying under oath about how the abuse never happened. that also means the other side would drag out every single woman that he’s been an asshole to and have them testify as well. I have a feeling that would not end well for trump. pro tip donny, it’s a lot easier to intimidate small business owners with the threat of a lawsuit than the fucking NY times

          • Stulexington

            Yeah, if he lies under oath it potentially opens him up to perjury, it would be nice to see him face criminal charges over the behaviour.

          • TundraGrifter

            Yes. First Trump would have to prove the NYT article was false.

            Then – because he is a “Sullivan” public figure – that the NYT knowingly published false allegations. “Malice.”

            Discovery would not be a pleasant experience for Chump. And the NYT would do everything within its power to make sure it was a public spectacle.

  • idiotboy

    Goddamn beautiful. That is the Times I used to love while sitting on the beach all day reading the Sunday edition.
    Course I have skin cancer now but totes worth it.

  • Markuserektus

    One would think that a law firm that charges four digits/hour would be better at the libuls…tRump probably won’t pay them for their unsatisfactory work.

    • Manhattan123

      You know his next call is to Cellino & Barnes injury attorneys 888-8888

      • Mickey Donovan

        Just call Saul. Oh wait a min, he’s not the right religion.

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      The point of this is not to intimidate the NYT, but to intimidate smaller outlets that don’t have the resources the Times has. They threaten the Times, the Times reports it, the little players think twice about reporting. It’s disgusting.

      • malsperanza

        Which is why the NYT is taking care to provide a very public, clear response for free that smaller outlets can cite.

  • aureolaborealis

    OT: I note a distinct lack of Robyn-ness around here in the past couple of days. Did it really happen?

    • Sister Artemis

      I know she’s welcome to contribute as a freelancer; I think the end of Sept. was the official change-over.

    • doktorzoom

      Sadly, yes; she’ll be helping on Fridays for a bit, but we keep telling her we wanna give her sweet freelance money too.

      Fiscal pinches suck.

  • therblig

    David E. McCraw forgot only one thing in his lawsplainer: “Neener, neener you pile of festering yam scat”

  • therblig

    ad thingy promises “Trump destroys Clinton in debates with 1 tiny trick

    isn’t that how call girls refer to him?

  • Shorter NYT legal team

    “We refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkell v. Pressdram”

    • MrCanoehead

      For those of you unfamiliar with the case:

      29th April 1971

      Dear Sir,

      We act for Mr Arkell who is Retail Credit Manager of Granada TV Rental
      Ltd. His attention has been drawn to an article appearing in the issue
      of Private Eye dated 9th April 1971 on page 4. The statements made about
      Mr Arkell are entirely untrue and clearly highly defamatory. We are
      therefore instructed to require from you immediately your proposals for
      dealing with the matter.

      Mr Arkell’s first concern is that there should be a full retraction at
      the earliest possible date in Private Eye and he will also want his
      costs paid. His attitude to damages will be governed by the nature of
      your reply.

      Yours,
      (Signed)
      Goodman Derrick & Co.
      ——————————
      Dear Sirs,

      We acknowledge your letter of 29th April referring to Mr. J. Arkell.

      We note that Mr Arkell’s attitude to damages will be governed by the
      nature of our reply and would therefore be grateful if you would inform
      us what his attitude to damages would be, were he to learn that the
      nature of our reply is as follows: fuck off.

      Yours,
      Private Eye

  • Love that second paragraph. KA-POW!!

  • boll ocks

    It’s pretty fun watching the Cheeto become totally unhinged. At this rate he’ll be in a mental facility by next month.

    • sw19roadtrip

      * again

    • nmmagyar

      Your lips to God’s ear

  • Kathy Taus

    Putin must be so pissed off. He’s doing all he can for the deadbeat and the deadbeat keeps undermining himself. Heh heh heh

  • malsperanza

    I may be going out on a limb here, but something tells me the NYT wrote that letter with the intention of having it go viral all over the globe. Or, I could be just imagining that.

    • Stulexington

      I’m not going to fault them getting free publicity over the truth. Especially since it shows in no uncertain terms that they are not afraid.

      • WIDTAP

        Plus, for those other publications trying to find their balls, this signals which direction the bull elephant is going to turn.

  • Stein Olsen
  • shoeflyin

    Reading this earlier today, I literally howled when I realized where they were going with the definition of libel. Hats off, Mr. McCraw.

    Also Rebecca, nice shout out to NYT vs. Sullivan, for once we are seeing some real journalism even in the creaky mainstream media. I am amazed.

  • RugzYaBurnt
  • Hairstrike Alpha

    Still think that woman whos alleging Trump repeatedly raped her at age 13 is making it up, Trix?

  • MilwaukeeKent

    Well said, Rebecca. I think even a Scalia SCOTUS would side with the Times on this one.

  • MC Planck

    That is one of the bluntest legal letters I have ever seen – particularly that last sentence.

    Wow.

  • Stein Olsen
    • Rickyphoo

      Bravo!

  • KJB
  • KJB

    I’m sure Wonket is already on this, but more fuel for the (trash) fire!:

    I tell friends who treat their wives magnificently, get treated like crap in return, “Be rougher and you’ll see a different relationship.’

    http://jezebel.com/recently-unearthed-transcript-proves-donald-trump-has-n-1787778344

  • Vagandarian the Librarian!

    I salute you Quick Draw McCraw!

  • brittany

    During the debate, Cooper got Trump to clearly state that he has not done the things he claimed to on the tape (eventually…the hesitation on his part to do so is weird in itself).
    That defines him as one of two possible characters:

    If he lied during the debate, then he is a sexual predator that thinks he can get away with assaulting and harassing whomever he pleases because of his fame and wealth.

    It he was actually telling the truth during the debate, then he lied to Billy Bush because he wanted to be perceived as a sexual predator that can get away with assaulting and harassing whomever he pleases because of his fame and wealth.

    Neither of those characters should be considered fit to hold any public office.

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