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RAKEYIA SCOTT: He better live. I swear, he better live. Yep, he better live. He better fucking live. He better live. Where is…He better fucking live, and I can’t even leave the damn…I ain’t going nowhere. I’m staying in the same damn spot. What the fuck. That’s O.K. did you all call the police? I mean, did you all call an ambulance?

The Charlotte Police Department says Keith Scott, whom they shot to death this week, was brandishing a gun. Rakeyia Scott says he was not. Charlotte Police say they won’t release officers’ bodycam video of the shooting for the “integrity of Donald Trump’s tax audit the investigation.” Wonkette says we are sorry, Mrs. Scott, and black people in general, that racism in our country is endemic, institutional, and personal to the point where black people are automatically seen as threats even by black cops. We are also sorry this is the second police shooting of a black man this week — that we know of.

We know you are exhausted, and sad, and scared and fucked up, and all we can do is tell you we are sorry and that we stand with you, and we don’t know if that helps any more than “thoughts and prayers” do, but at least you know you have some friends who don’t think the answer to your murders is to have your young men stopped and frisked or your young women strip searched at the side of the road. For the first time in ever, some police are being held accountable for their happy trigger fingers at least to the point of being charged, even if a conviction is so rare that of the 15 cops convicted of murder on this Wikipedia page, one is Drew Peterson, who murdered his wife. (And, actually, the others are all just garden-variety murderers who murder, as well. Getting a conviction for murder on the job is like the Tooth Fairy, apparently, or a black Santa Claus.)

We heard this week that racism didn’t exist before Barack Obama invented it, and Donald Trump never stops shutting his mouth about the good old days and the Central Park Five.

We don’t like it either that White Nationalism is having a “moment,” or that half the country is perfectly happy to vote for a man who plays footsie with the Klan. We’re not trying to be political at you, except that in our life everything is political, and in yours it is too. We’re sorry you are scapegoated, and victim-blamed, and that half of half of the country is fucking grotesque, while the other half of half of the country is just kind of dumb.

We’re sorry, Mrs. Scott, that you watched your husband get shot. We’re sorry we all did.

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  • MynameisBlarney

    I can’t watch it.
    I just can’t.

  • Scooby

    More police shootings just today than most countries have in a year.

  • Mavenmaven

    Under Trump we will see this even more regularly.

  • Blackest Noobs

    i watched. it’s horrible. a bunch of cops decked out in body armor just murdered that guy. the cops’ excuse was he had a gun….though NC is a state where you go around with a gun practically anywhere unless you’re black….then you can’t have a gun nor have what might be construed by some dumb fucking cop as gun…so sorry black people…you’re good as dead when the cops show up.

  • Ghenghis McCann

    And some Americans wonder why, in Britain, the majority of the people don’t want the Police to be routinely armed.

  • Blacktop Cadence

    I just make it a point to never watch these. It seems just so profane. >.<

    • Shannanigans

      I feel the same.

  • Me not sure

    Compare these two shots. In the screen shot from Mrs. Scott’s video there is no gun by her husband’s feet. In the police still photo the gun has magically appeared. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c223d9acafc2c217aebee6f683a09bd24d83efd4ea51407b91abd2da76ea7a73.jpg
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/200b56943fcd140a01593dec279dd2910721fcde0a7b226da9428cb24f605f3e.jpg

    • darnyoudarnyoutoheck

      Amazing. Magical appearing gun.

      • Me not sure

        I’d bet money on the red shirted plain clothes guy in the vest.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        can you say “throwaway piece”?

      • coozledad

        I’ve been in the back of a highway patrolman’s car to fill out an accident report, and saw a half empty bottle of Jack Daniels’ Black sticking out from underneath the driver’s seat. That came in handy when the same officer ran down a motorcyclist, killed him, and sprinkled him with liquor. It’s not an aberration. It’s departmental policy.

    • Wes Grogan

      More telling is that there is crime tape up. The picture with “his gun” had to have been taken significantly later.

      • Me not sure

        Exactly, and for the sake of crime scene integrity it should not have been moved until the event had been thoroughly documented. At this point an Emergency Medical Team has not yet arrived, much less a CSI unit.

    • Bear OmNomNom

      Now, now. One of his blackity-blackity-black friends could easily have snuck into an active crime scene to drop that gun as a means of discrediting the cops. #poe

    • Bear OmNomNom

      In all seriousness, that’s a great pick-up. Get that shit all over the Internet so they can’t possibly make it all disappear. I just ran across something on YouTube purporting to be *footage of the planting*, posted three hours ago, that’s already been “removed by the user”…

  • coozledad

    It isn’t classist to call the people who are cheering the slaughter of black people what they are, which is fucking trash. There’s a reason people pay to get into movies where the Germans get their ass beat, and that’s because white supremacists are dreck.

    And in other protofascist news, Republicans are dogass traitor shite, and their candidate is a Russian mole.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-intel-officials-probe-ties-between-trump-adviser-and-kremlin-175046002.html

    • Callyson

      Some of those briefed were “taken aback” when they learned about Page’s contacts in Moscow, viewing them as a possible back channel to the Russians that could undercut U.S. foreign policy, said a congressional source familiar with the briefings but who asked for anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject. The source added that U.S. officials in the briefings indicated that intelligence reports about the adviser’s talks with senior Russian officials close to President Vladimir Putin were being “actively monitored and investigated.”

      A senior U.S. law enforcement official did not dispute that characterization when asked for comment by Yahoo News. “It’s on our radar screen,” said the official about Page’s contacts with Russian officials. “It’s being looked at.”

      OK, this is getting even more serious. Come the fuck on, voters–we CANNOT allow this man into the White House FFS!

      • coozledad

        The Republicans have always had their nuts tied to petrodollars. The Bush-Cheney energy policy was in all likelihood a five year plan to permanently link US energy infrastructure to overseas Republican party donors. It was a perverse step that helped crash California’s economy and got a fucking Nazi in the governor’s mansion.

        These people need to be put out to sea.

      • Astraea

        But Hillary deleted some emails!

        • James Christopher Owen

          Both sidez do it!!!

    • anwisok

      He’s gonna have the best people! You just wait! The best!

  • memzilla

    We really, truly have a choice between one candidate who will try to stop this shit, and one candidate who will cheer this shit.
    .
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dcc82f2a2f7660d7a0f7c968db139bb91e1041654e097a776fedd76619a4e5f8.jpg

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      what, are you saying that implementing stop and frisk won’t solve the problem with police violence against people of color?

      • James Christopher Owen

        Butbutbut didn’t that and “broken windows” policing totally slash crime rates in NYC?

  • Blackest Noobs

    some good news…well sorta…Hillz is back to moving on up ( i was getting a bit scared when she dipped past 58%)

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#plus

    she is moving back up, he is moving back down ( Nevada is back in play for Hillz too)

    • Callyson

      We California volunteers have been tasked with delivering Nevada. Doing what I can!

  • Callyson
    • James Christopher Owen

      Amen, fellow human. Amen.

  • WhyFelicia

    But Donald Trump said that police were too scared to do anything like this now. Or anything at all.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    This has been on loop on MSNBC. While I know that those clowns are doing it for ratings, at least this is getting out there. The frightening part is- there are millions of people who are OK with this, who actually believe all blah people are animals and have it coming to them when something bad happens and who can literally watch this video and shrug it off. And Donald fucking Trump is their Pied Piper

  • Blanche Beecham

    My thoughts are with the family after reading the transcript of the video. I am so sorry for your needless loss.

    Enough is Enough.

  • OneYieldRegular

    The thing is, Donald Trump and every Republican supporting him knows he doesn’t have a chance of winning unless he embraces white supremacy, and he does it anyway, and they go along with it, and none of us should ever, ever, ever forget who they are.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      these fucking cockroaches have come out into the light and are now brazen

      • calliecallie

        I hope Hillary has boots big enough to stomp them.

        • Bear OmNomNom

          I misread “boots”… and even though I am A Ghey, I kind of like the mental image I got.

  • anwisok
  • Marceline

    Remember when Susan Sarandon said that Trump might be better than Hillary because it would help bring about “the revolution?” This is what revolution looks like when you’re the cannon fodder.

    • Blacktop Cadence

      God, yes, I’ve had more than a few conversations with Bernie Bros who say stupid shit like this. The gutters are already running red, and these self-absorbed people are okay with turning that into a torrent for their revolution.

      • coozledad

        What they mean by “revolution” is a bunch of fucking neck beards taking over the killing. Strictly a Rand Paul phenomenon.

        • The Deplorable Ms. MLG

          Yesterday, I got uglier than I intended to with someone upset about the millenials hating Clinton post. I felt bad about something I said, then realized just how sick and fucking tired I am of people treating this election like it’s all about them. Like it isn’t serious. Like it doesn’t have consequences. Like it’s a toy for them to play with, and then having the unmitigated gall to refuse to accept responsibility for that. No. No. No. No. Not ok!

          • Callyson

            Ugh, the trolls on that post were tedious as fuck.

          • Marceline

            Are you talking about Mr. “I refuse to vote out of fear?” He was a special kind of ignorant motherfucker, wasn’t he?

          • The Deplorable Ms. MLG

            I stayed away from him, but I was loving your takedowns!

          • coozledad

            I’ve been dealing with a candidate for NC House, Joe Parrish, who spent his brief time as a party supported candidate trashing Hillary. He’s not supported by the party anymore.

            He stood in front of a room full of black women who canvassed for Barack Obama. Some of them had been physically attacked for doing so in 2008. Heroes. People whose courage is a daily inspiration to me. He told them they were arrogant for supporting Hillary.

            I had to tell him to go fuck himself, and then I walked out of that meeting. I’ve got no use for that kind of cracker piece of “smart for Roxboro” garbage shitpants. Not only will he always be unfit for public office, he’s fucking unemployable,

          • The Deplorable Ms. MLG

            Good for you! He’s lucky those women didn’t gut him like a fish.

          • coozledad

            They were stunned with disbelief at what they were hearing. I knew what was coming, because my wife and I had already been alerted his Facebook posts calling for the death of Hillary Clinton.

          • Speaking truth to power. Stand up. Fight back.

      • malsperanza

        Short effective response : this is exactly what Nader voters said in 2000. Ask them how they liked the Revolution then? Did it achieve their goals?

        • Shibusa

          Was their goal a $3 trillion war of choice in Iraq? In that case: Mission Accomplished!

      • Shibusa

        “Revolution” means one thing for a millennial (Denmarkian utopia) and something else entirely for an angry white unhinged Trump-bot (Mad Max).

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      It’s easy to root for the tsunami when your penthouse is safely above the high water line

      • JustDon’tSayDeplorable

        To extend the metaphor a little, it is also dangerous to assume being above the high water line is high enough in a tsunami. If you know what I mean.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          unfortunately, you and I aren’t the ones who need the reminder to pay heed

          • JustDon’tSayDeplorable

            Yeah, and I’m definitely below the high water line. I guess I better be ready to swim.

    • Do they realize they are backing the wrong revolution?

      • The Deplorable Ms. MLG

        No, no they do not.

      • malsperanza

        According to Susan Sarandon, the worse it gets the better. So yeah, they do. Because magic.

    • Callyson

      One of Mom’s friends said that back in 1980 about Reagan. Yeah, that worked well…

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f1481b889b2de80cccce353434bc880adb2d2103c84c0d34bafb6015f70d26b5.jpg

    • say wha

      There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
      brothers in the instant replay.
      The revolution will not be televised, will not be televised,
      will not be televised, will not be televised.
      The revolution will be no re-run brothers;
      The revolution will be live.

    • Ruhe

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^…

    • coozledad

      The only candidate worth a damn in this election. She was always the only one worth a damn.
      http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/clinton-release-charlotte-shooting-video

    • James Christopher Owen

      Clearly, SS has no grasp of history. Eight years of Dubya and a gridlocked Congress dominated by Teabaggers, Citizen’s United, rolling back of civil liberties and Trump is making a real run at the White House on the shoulders of some VERY deplorable basket cases…exactly what apocalypse does she think will wake the idiots up?

    • (((Gosala the Deplorable)))

      The worse, the better

      A cruel piece of strategy, and not effective.

    • The problem is Sarandon is thinking of revolution with crayons and rainbows and unicorns and rainbow bridges, heart-shaped cupcakes, and BFFs singing Kumba-fucking-ya, but the revolution that a Trump presidency is one that would water the proverbial tree of liberty with the blood of us all.

    • SadDemInTex

      She was a total douche for saying that…talk about white privilege!?

  • Zippy W Pinhead
    • rebecca

      thank god she let us know she is not racist. i might have wondered otherwise!

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        None of them are racist- just ask them…

      • JCfromNC

        “I’m not a racist. I just think that black people are a “breed” and that every black male is going to grow up to be an out-of-control sexual offender. But that’s not racism. That’s just facts.”

        I mean, you just know that’s the thought process underlying that note. And I use “thought” in the loosest possible sense here. Especially as you can show them actual facts that contradict everything they say about “those people” and it’ll slide off their brains like water from a duck’s back. Even the “I have a black friend” types, because they view their friend as an aberration, of sorts — not like the rest of “those people.”

        I have a cousin I seldom get to see anymore. He and his wife weren’t able to have children of their own, and so they adopted. All three kids are of color. I see stuff like this, and it just burns me up inside.

    • Spotts1701

      Jesus…that’s…I mean how do you even address that without either profound sadness or screaming fury?

    • Lulu Mac

      Jesus H. Crimeny, W T ever-loving F? I want to rip up that gawd-awful eagle flag vomit card with every fiber of my being.

    • I Only Like Cats

      If she had a white son I’d insist she’d start consent education as soon as possible, perhaps not for her daughters’ sake, but for someone’s daughter’s sake. That person is gross and I hope they feel gross.

    • Msgr_Moment

      Anonymous card writer: Delete your account. Give up your human card. You received it under false pretenses.

    • anwisok

      Holy. Christ. And, “I work with black teens 2-3 times a week.” I’m sure she’s giving them 100% effort. Those poor kids!

      • Good_Trouble_Yall

        She works with black teens and hears them “talk about sex.” So, if black people are doing it, sex = rape? This person – and I use the term extremely loosely – needs a reeducation camp, stat.

    • CJTX

      Horrible start but great end. watch the video (that fuckin’ autoplays, anyway). My dad was actually my step dad. I called him dad, since the beginning. My parents tell teh story of how I ran into daycare one day and told the staff, “my mommy and daddy got married!).
      He taught me how to drive a car, how to tie a tie, how to shave, and to go up to your date’s door and knock instead of sitting in the car and honking. In other (maybe old fashioned patriachial?) words, he taught be how to be a man. A good man. So yeah, blood don’t matter. He used to tell me on my parent’s anniversary that he got to choose his son. He’s gone now, but definitely not forgotten.

      • Shannanigans

        Stop invoking the onion ninjas.

        I have a stepdad I miss, too….

        • CJTX

          Momma says families aren’t born, they’re made. It’s the reason she talks to her sister every day (2 or 3 times a day!). We gotta work at it.
          Anyway, I’m sorry for your loss. I literally know what it’s like. He wasn’t perfect, but he had a good heart. I KNOW that for a fact.

    • That is not a person who needs to be working with teens or children of any race. Holy fuck. How do people get like that?

  • memzilla
    • Zippy W Pinhead

      like I said, there are millions of people who are ugly and hateful and racist out there and they are now emboldened to not even bother hiding it

      • Msgr_Moment

        Thanks, Obama.
        /s

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          yup, Al Gore invented the internet and Barack Obama invented racism. Too bad none of us will be alive in a hundred years to see what historians write about this election. I’m sure it will be scathing- a serious black mark on the soul of this country. The fact that the reaction to the election of the first blah president has been for the opposition party to nominate an openly racist shitweasel who has built his entire campaign on white resentment and bigotry is absolutely appalling.

          • Msgr_Moment

            I just hope they don’t write it with charcoal on birchbark.

          • GHERKINS OF TRUTH!

            is absolutely appalling.

            “Deplorable,” even?

            Hillz nailed it, but I guess points off for inventing the basket.
            It’s no basket, it’s a goddamn feces lagoon.

    • TheGrandWaz00

      What is the troll trying to say with that photo?

      • memzilla

        That’s just the screencap of the linked article, but he’s basically saying, I trust a white male in uniform over a black female in tears.

        • cmd

          Well you know women have those annoying voices. LIke Hillary. Of course screaming, drop the gun, or Stop Resisting DOES prove the person had a gun or was resisting.

    • James Christopher Owen

      What is it like to have no soul? Guess I need to call this broken thing and ask.

  • Callyson

    Just saw the whole thing. Time to day drink!

    • Marceline

      I’m purposely not watching it until I can do it with a drink in my hand.

      • Callyson

        Good plan. I wish I had thought of that.

      • I Only Like Cats

        Just waiting for my next drop in blood sugar to curl up with a carton of ice cream.

  • Señor Skwerl
    • tehbaddr

      I’d break into the zoo as well if it meant getting a chance to cuddle with the Lynx and not have my face scratched off.

  • Lulu Mac

    I’m tired of this. I’m so very tired and I don’t even know how to say what I feel because I am so fucking privileged and it feels so patronizing, but I’m so sorry…just unbelievable sorry and sad. Ugh.

    • The Deplorable Ms. MLG

      I don’t believe empathy and compassion are ever patronizing. We are all people, we all feel the same things, and we can all imagine how much having one of our loved ones shot and killed would hurt, even if it isn’t as likely to happen because we’re white.

      • Lulu Mac

        It just feels so empty. Like “thoughts and prayers” and that kind of shit.

        • The Deplorable Ms. MLG

          When your thoughts and/or prayers are backed up by genuine love and kindess, then that’s what you’re putting into the world, and that is never, ever empty. You will also be voting, and that is definitely not empty! This is too big for any one person to “fix” it. All of us together, doing our parts? That’s truly something.

          • Vagendadentacohontas

            I needed to hear that too, so thanks for the humanity :-)

          • Cindyinencinitas

            Isn’t she just the best?

          • Vagendadentacohontas

            Yes, and isn’t to humble to show it ;-)

          • James Christopher Owen

            NOW who’s trying to bolster someone’s faith in human goodness?

            ;)

            You sexy eyeball, you. XD

          • The Deplorable Ms. MLG

            Hehe! Thank you!

      • Cindyinencinitas

        shot and killed in front of us.

    • I firmly believe that the very best thing that we can do as White People is to see Black People as fellow human beings first and fore most. That we can communicate to Black America that we see them as human beings first, Americans second, and equal to ourselves.

      We need to carry in our hip pocket always ready to whip it out: disrupt racist behavior. Be on alert for racist behavior and act when you see it. Then, vote. Vote with race and institutional racism as your only issue.

    • Remember this feeling. Make it a part of your core… that piece you bring with you to every situation. And when it is hard to go out of your way six months from now two years from now, remember this feeling, pick yourself up and do the right thing in that moment. When you realize that you are falling off the path and getting caught up in the mundaneness of your everyday life, remember this feeling. And then, act, confront, challenge, relate, reach and stretch for the people in your surroundings.

  • Crystalclear12

    I am so sick of people saying “he didn’t do what he was told”. He is not a child!! And even if he wasn’t following commands when did that become a capital offence. I just can’t even. . .
    Votes matter, maybe not in every election but in this one, it matters.

    • Msgr_Moment

      If I had a couple hundred more votes. Of the proper caliber….

    • Spotts1701

      As I said on the previous thread, soldiers in Iraq could not leap immediately to lethal force unless they were under direct fire. To say that police have faster rules of engagement (and quicker ability to use deadly force) than people on a battlefield, then try to defend them with “well, in the heat of the moment…” is ludicrous.

      • CJTX

        There was an article somewhere recently about a cop who was an Iraq vet. He got fired for NOT shooting a dude. I realize there’s other officer’s safety at risk and all, but this guy had been taught (by the greatest military the world has ever seen) how to spot threats. He didn’t think the dude was a threat and was let go.

        • cmd

          I read about him. He realized the guy he was dealing with was mental and was in the process of talking him down without shooting him.

          • CJTX

            Didn’t other cops eventually show up and shoot the guy anyway? That’s just the worst…one guy is possibly taking a risk to talk down someone with a medical problem, and a bunch of cowboys show up and shoot the guy. Ugh..another reason to day drink.

          • If the sun has risen on the United Fucking States of Fucking Stupid, then it is another day to drink, another day where alcohol is an essential ingredient of the cognitive dissonance needed to get through until we can sleep and escape for a few precious hours.

    • tehbaddr

      STOP RESISTING STOP RESISTING STOP RESISTING BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG!!!!1111111!!!!!111!11!1!!!!1!!!!!!

    • malsperanza

      That’s ok, because shooting children to death is also acceptable.

    • He also was recovering from a head injury and taking some unspecified medication for it. It is very possible he wasn’t fully aware and understanding of what was going on around him. Also, too, he was surrounded by plain clothes police officers in unmarked cars until the marked police unit rolled up with a uniformed officer in it. What did he think was going on out there?

      The upshot is, he was not threatening those officers whether he had a gun or not. Those officers did not need to push the process or force a resolution. Why couldn’t they have waited? They had the wife, they had him boxed in, they had him isolated. Who was he going to hurt? Where was he going to go?

      We know from previous incidences that (a) the police have planted weapons after the fact and (b) have justified their actions by shouting things like “Quit resisting” or “He’s going for my gun” as they abuse a human being. Why wouldn’t we assume that the shouts of “Drop the gun” are just more of the same?

  • fawkedifiknow

    Some answers to some pretty simple questions should clear this up:

    1. Did Scott own a gun? Or,
    2. Did Scott have access to someone else’s gun?
    3. Are Scott’s fingerprints on the gun the police claim he was holding when they shot him?

    Actually, just the third one should be definitive.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Right? I mean, everyone’s talking about whether the gun is in the freakin’ video. So what? If he had one, it would have been recovered at the scene, wouldn’t it? And the police would have taken it, wouldn’t they? They wouldn’t leave it just lying there!

      So where’s the freakin’ gun, Charlotte police?

      • GHERKINS OF TRUTH!

        This is my exact question.

        My theory? It’s a big scary giant looking thing (because that was the usual cop’s get-out-of-murder card, to drop at any, say, ‘questionable’ shootings) which would normally work, except for the part that there’s absolutely no way it could be mistaken for what what he is or isn’t holding in the video.

        That is my false-flag tinfoil hat contrails theory.

        The gun they “recovered” couldn’t possibly ever fit with the pixelly smudge of whatever is in his hands in the video… and the cops from the crime scene are sticking to their story.

        • cmd

          So the cops released this photo they claim they got from combing social media. Shows the dead guy, a gun on the ground sort of close to his feet, and also crime tape is already up. Now one would think that by the time you get crime tape up you’d have picked up any weapons lying around, especially if they are the supposed justification for killing someone. Or you’d have some pictures you TOOK, like where the gun was lying on the ground next to the body before you put the crime scene tape up, not something some unknown person posted on “social media.” That story was in the NY Daily News although I’ve see the photo floating around.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            or at least some little flags to mark important evidence

      • Bear OmNomNom

        There you go, asking questions again and not just taking their word for it. That means YOU’RE a dangerous lawbreaker, too!1!

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      can we maybe even SEE the gun?

      • Cindyinencinitas

        DING DING DING. Where’s the gun??? Or did that nutter at the supermarket make off with it?

  • Msgr_Moment

    Excuse me: I have to plug my snark generator back into the USB port. This will only take most of the weekend.

    • WhyFelicia

      Mine needs a giant glass of whiskey and a Christ-Rock-circa-1997 Marathon. And even then, it might be down for a bit.

  • Beulah

    OT:

    In an ironic twist on Dr. Seuss, Ted Cruz's hands shrunk two sizes when he endorsed @realDonaldTrump.— Rich Two (@TheOtherRich) September 23, 2016

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Rafael has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is an honorless cur.

      • JustDon’tSayDeplorable

        You need to insert a “yet again” in there somewhere…

        • Villago Delenda Est

          You’re correct, between “proven” and “beyond” it probably the right spot.

          • JustDon’tSayDeplorable

            That looks right to me. Just keep it your pocket, b/c we can depend on Raffy to dip even lower. It’s his thing, really.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        what frightens me is that he is calculating enough that i wonder what he knows.

        • Amy!

          I’m guessing the RNC came over and told him, “Hey, 2018, nice little campaign you’re setting up there. Where are you gonna get the money to pay for that, huh?” And this right after Mitch drop-kicked his latest ploy straight out of the news.

  • I Only Like Cats

    Excuse me, I’ll be watching HGTV, “Murder, She Wrote”, and some cartoons/anime for the rest of time. If you don’t see me, that’s where I am.

    • ViveLaDeplorables

      All I can watch at night are reruns of Midsomer Murders on Netflix that I have seen eleventy-million times. They didn’t make enough Miss Marples to hold me over, and I can’t keep mainlining benedryl.

      • Cindyinencinitas

        May I suggest Nick, Jr. Kipper is like a drug. Babar is awesome if you can overlook the colonialism bit.

  • jesuswasablack

    They say he had a gun? So, I though NC is open carry? Why the hell doesn’t anyone ever ask the police were these guns come from? I mean every gun was legally purchased at one time, there isn’t some black factory out there producing illegal guns? We just accept that supposedly “bad people” have guns and never ask where they come from?

    http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2016-02-23-1456249643-7330351-MakeDadJealous.jpg

  • Msgr_Moment

    I’m tired of being a human. I just want to float all day.
    http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/3442590/hot-tub-hedgehog-o.gif

    • Lulu Mac
    • TJ Barke

      I kind of want to get Castaway’d, just go live alone on a deserted island…

      • Walter Wellstone

        This is where I want to go:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gough_Island

        • TJ Barke

          Too cold.

          • CJTX

            There was some silly movie where Tommy Lee Jones was a retired something or other living in a log cabin in some snowy, mountain locale. I want that.

          • Shannanigans

            I’m just gonna stay where I’m at. The beach is getting closer every year.

          • CJTX

            Closer to kansas? That’s a pessimistic view of global warming and plate tectonics.

            ;)
            I just want cold weather. When I was in florida, I met a lot of people from NY, Penn., Chicago. It couldn’t get hot enough for them. They had so many snowy cold days when they were younger, they wanted to live in florida forever. I’m the opposite, I grew up in the desert, if it’s never hot again, I would be happy.

          • Shannanigans

            Well, I’m a chick without a lot of insulation so my feet are icy from about October to May.

          • CJTX

            Yes, I literally laughed out loud. My ex was ALWAYS cold…meanwhile as a fat dude of norhtern european extraction, I wear shorts on cold days. I dig the cold.

          • Cindyinencinitas

            I consider cold to be a life-threatening situation. And by “cold” I mean colder than 45.

          • CJTX

            Typical Californian….kidding! I stayed at a place exactly 1 mile from the water in Venice for awhile. I had to get up early to go to work everyday and it was cold as hell that close to the water.

          • Cindyinencinitas

            No, it’s true! I go a little crazy when the temp starts with a 4. And rain? Fuggedaboudit! I have seen entire office staffs plastered against the window, oohing and aaahing when it starts raining like they’re looking at the Hope Diamond.

          • CJTX

            Heh, this is the desert. Snow and rain makes people do stupid things.

          • Shannanigans
          • CJTX

            Heh, soo true. One ex had a cold nose, constantly. The other one use to steal the blankets like that and then flop around like a fish. Meanwhile, I slept like a vampire. On my back, hands crossed over my chest. People are indeed strange, Jim Morrison.. ;)

          • Shannanigans

            I kid. I like a cold room with a toasty warm duvet and the whole bed to myself.

          • CJTX

            I had one glorious ex who use to keep her bedroom like a meat fridge. She was INSANE, but boy that room (and her) were awesome. Especially in the florida heat.

          • Shannanigans

            Dayum, you have a lot of exes LOL!

          • CJTX

            Lol – I only mentioned 3!

          • CJTX

            Were you equally as fascinated by that bit in the first pirates of the caribbean movie where they show what’s er name sleeping in a bed with a pan filled with hot coal. I thought that sounded cozy as fuck!

          • Shannanigans

            I don’t remember that…

          • CJTX

            Eh, I’m insane. It’s a quick bit early in the movie. Apparently in the old days they would put hot coals in this weird pan and put it under the covers to keep you toasty. Anyway…

          • YoBunnyBunny

            OMG!!! I thought I was the only person who slept with my arms crossed like a corpse!!! (Seriously, it comes from my awkward habit of sleeping under too-small throw blankets. Pull it up to my chin and cross my arms over my chest to stay covered and warm.)

          • CJTX

            I did that b/c of small beds. In those days, I wasn’t as big around as I am today, but beds in college were thin. And so were girlfriend’s beds. Anyway, I still kinda tighten up into a ball like that. In fact just last night I had to wake up a few times and work my hands cause they were asleep cause of the way I was sleeping. (Wait, so my hand feel asleep which cause me to wake from my sleep? And creationists think the human body is “perfect”)

          • YoBunnyBunny

            You know, just last night/this morning I woke up and realized that my hand was asleep because I was sleeping on it. Even in a midnight stupor, I thought that was really bizarre.

          • Walter Wellstone

            That’s why I want to go to Gough Island. I’d like to be buried in Heard Island in the Indian Ocean, somewhere between the southwestern tip of Africa, Australia and Antarctica.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/514fb60d2b93706df39fc5cbb0c544806bec19d3cba6065a277b500b8db9473d.jpg

          • coozledad

            Sometimes I just want to shed my earthly belongings and go to the burning ghats, and be dumped in the Ganges.

            Just for the fucking fuck of it..

          • Walter Wellstone

            Average high is about 57 degrees for the year. That’s perfect for me.

        • Shibusa

          Hope you like your own cooking!

  • Spotts1701

    I’m going to go over here, try to figure out what the hell has gone wrong with the world to make it so blatantly cold, cruel and callous.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c3a506c5f8da9f95cfa0f2ed51b70626c1fa02b2af7a7f3ed9ab8c5aaf377c14.jpg

  • Villago Delenda Est

    At this point, there is no question in my mind that the Charlotte PD is utterly corrupt and dedicated to breaking the law. They are no better than a uniformed street gang.

    Fuck them, and the police horse they rode in on.

    • Vagendadentacohontas

      Don’t fuck the horse!!! That’s illegal, and probably mean!

    • Wes Grogan

      Time to rape the horses and run off the women.

    • willi0000000

      fuck them with the horse! . . . the entire horse!

  • Walter Wellstone

    American cops are very brave when dealing with civilians, especially those that happen to be unarmed. I’d like to see these pussies confronting an MS-13 cell in the streets of any major Central American city. These “blue lives” cowards would shit their pants in the first ten minutes. Those fuckers down there have grenades and RPGs and are not shy about using them.

    • anwisok

      I disagree. Part of the problem is that police departments LOVE to hire them some veterans! And that’s a good thing, for a lot of reasons. But it’s also a bad thing, because they’re used to rules of engagement that are, perhaps, not appropriate for their new jobs. Plus, have you looked into how many vets have PTSD when they come home?

      • Jen B_VA

        Mmm. I have heard vets say almost that, but with a twist. What I have heard is “Why don’t police have rules of engagement?”

        • anwisok

          So they fall back on the ones they had drilled into them overandoverandoverand . . .

  • Rufus T. Firefly

    NC is open carry.
    But the suspect had a gun, so the police were justified in shooting him.
    But NC is open carry.
    But the suspect had a gun…
    Illogical. Illogical.
    Does not compute.
    >head explodes<

    • Walter Wellstone

      I know why you’re confused:

      NC is open carry.
      The suspect had a gun, so the police were justified in shooting him.
      But NC is open carry.
      The suspect is not white, so, y’know.
      Oh, I see. OK.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        DING DING DING DING DING

        The Second Amendment was never intended to apply to “those people”.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          only 3/5 of them

          • Me not sure

            Anything above the abdomen is fair game?

          • Wes Grogan

            And below the belt. But all the rest is ENTIRELY off limits.

          • SeekingBarbie

            The 3/5 in the kill zone.

        • James Christopher Owen

          You kidding? My understanding is, the second amendment was about putting them down in case they decided to revolt.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    They now shout “drop the gun” as a routine admonishment for CYA whether they see a gun or not, because they know they’re being recorded. It’s so fucked.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      God. You really think so? I don’t know – that makes some sense, but if they’re caught on their own cameras (or on a bystander’s) screaming “drop the gun”, but then later the cops have no gun in evidence… I don’t really see how that sham can avoid exposure, y’know?

      • Vagendadentacohontas

        Especially since cops historically have never had the motive or opportunity to plant evidence to cover up their wrongdoings.
        Oh, wait…it’s the opposite of that.

        • Lance Thrustwell

          Hm. Well, but how would that work in this case? What they need is a gun that is either a) registered to him, b) has his fingerprints on it, or both. If they were to take a gun from another case in their evidence room, they’d have to go with option b). But the body would have been taken straight to the morgue. When would they have a chance to get his fingerprints on it?

          Just trying to figure this out.

          • Good_Trouble_Yall

            As Lily Tomlin says, no matter how cynical you are, you can never keep up.

          • Wes Grogan

            Real? Who knows, but it is referred to as a “drop gun.” http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Drop%20gun

          • NellCote71

            In the wife’s footage, there was no gun. In a police photo that was released there was a gun on the ground. I am sure during this chaos the new widow went home to edit her video before releasing it.

          • Shannanigans

            That’s the most obvious answer. I’m sure it will be all over Conservative Treehouse right about now.

          • shoeflyin

            C is pretty likely, I would say.

      • Walter Wellstone

        Who cares if they get caught? They’ll get “administrative leave” with pay, of course.

      • Cindyinencinitas

        This is starting to feel like some kind of really sick game.

        • Lance Thrustwell

          It’s like the worst, least fun murder mystery ever.

          • Cindyinencinitas

            So. Fucked. Up.

      • Bear OmNomNom

        Exposure aside, authoritarian-followers will continue to believe whatever narrative their Heroes feed them…

  • Lance Thrustwell

    I’ve gotta think that the dashcam footage will clear all this up one way or another. The dashcam will be pointed at the car: it will either show him getting out of the car, gun in hand, or it won’t.

    Now, maybe the angle’s bad for seeing if he has a gun or not, but if it shows him getting out of the car, AND the police have a gun with his fingerprints on it, the police are pretty much exonerated.

    If he had a gun but didn’t leave the car, the police are only *partly* exonerated. In that case, they should have mounted a perimeter and treated it kind of like a hostage situation, given his mom a megaphone, etc.

    if he left the car but DIDN’T have a gun, they are not really exonerated at all. That would be a total, inexcusable overreaction.

    If NEITHER thing happened, they are straight-up murderers, and the one officer screaming to put down the gun needs to be fired and put on antipsychotics.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      The dashcam footage probably would send some cops to prison.

      So we’ll never see the dashcam footage.

    • Jen B_VA

      Unfortunately with dashcams sometimes the police will stand in its line of sight (as in Tulsa), accidentally I am sure, while others will park their vehicles at an angle.
      So the dashcam might be even less revealing, depending.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        Dangit.

        • Jen B_VA

          There is a reason that body cams are being fought as hard as they are, and it sure as not is the money thing, considering they can afford all those new drones and tanks.

      • taco truck vagenda

        Besides, according to the NC police chief (heard him on the radio this morning), you can’t really determine anything from the video anyway because so many other things are going on. In other words, who are you gonna believe? What the police say happened or your lying’ eyes?

        • Jen B_VA

          You can’t determine anything so we will not release it because reasons.
          NOT EDITING REASONS. Really, pinky swear.

    • Shannanigans

      Wasn’t he waiting to for his son to get home from school? Why would he do a bunch of crazy shit KNOWING his son was about to show up?

      • Lance Thrustwell

        That is a good question. Where was he again? Waiting in the street for his son’s bus to arrive? Why wasn’t he in the house?

        • Shannanigans

          I think I remember reading he was parked in a parking stall at the apartment complex.

          • CJTX

            And not all buses drop off at the front door. I only took the bus when I was really young in Germany, but I don’t think they get door to door service.

          • Bear OmNomNom

            The townhome complex across from my office is about 1/4 mile wide, runs 1/2 mi lengthwise down a main road, and gets two consolidated stops on that main road.

  • tehbaddr

    I wonder when the alt right trolls will be here.

    • anwisok

      Soon enough. *sigh*

    • Walter Wellstone

      I can’t wait for them to show up. I feel I need to ridicule, belittle and laugh at at least one of them today.

      • TJ Barke

        I’m leaning more towards assault and battery.

        • tehbaddr

          With votes remember.

        • Jen B_VA

          Remember the radical rules. We LIKE you.

          • TJ Barke

            I just said leaning…

          • Bear OmNomNom

            He just means he’s going to pour salt on them to enhance their conductivity, before attaching them to a car battery… Oh, dammit. Rules again.

    • Shannanigans

      They’re heeeeere…..

      • Lance Thrustwell

        Aaahh!

    • James Christopher Owen

      Quick, send in the clowns…

  • chascates

    We should all follow Colin Kaepernick’s example.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    looks like we’ve got a case of Schrödinger’s gun

  • whitroth

    When the *fuck* did all of the US become a free-fire zone? The cops are *not* Han Solo…..

    • MaiaAZ

      Pretty much around the same time the Mayflower landed.

  • The Side-eye is forever

    Just the year a bill was signed into law that body cam videos are not released to the general public. Only the family can view the footage.
    This was justified shoot and the wife is clearly heard telling her husband “don’t do it”. She saw and knew he had a gun in his hand when she was recording. Welcome to the new money hustle…

    • Mezzavagenda

      Oh look. The shitbirds have arrived.

    • Jen B_VA

      Going to assume you are being all Poe because no one could be such a fucking dipshit idiot as to say “don’t do it!” means he has a gun while ignoring all the times she also said “he doesn’t have a gun”

    • CJTX

      Sooo, they risked his life to try and make a few bucks – meanwhile Trump is a saint? Got it. Shirt bird is right. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/37ee7f629b5c318c3c84fda1eba3ac3c335f1cb3013206265146665df2fe93d4.jpg

    • Mezzavagenda

      My understanding is the law doesn’t go into effect until October 1. Sure, they’ll drag their asses for a week. But that doesn’t make it right.

    • Lefty Frizzell

      “She saw and knew he had a gun in his hand when she was recording”

      Not to say he didn’t have a gun, but who made you the mind-reader-in-chief?

      • taco truck vagenda

        Like all racists, it knows how “those people” think.

    • anwisok

      Yes, because she couldn’t *possibly* be talking to the cops when she says that,

    • Walter Wellstone

      Do you know–with evidence, of course–what she was referring to when she said “don’t do it”? Do you have any proof she was telling her husband not to shoot the cops?

    • taco truck vagenda

      I realize you’re a pile of racist shit, but really, why do you have to drag Willie Wonka into it?

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Pilez of shit just like to get shit on everything, and particularly the good thingz… Especially because they are pilez of shit…

      • The Side-eye is forever

        Ah the race card is that all you have???

        • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

          your mom must be so embarrassed

        • Jen B_VA

          When you stop being a racist dickweasel I promise we will stop playing the race card.
          You first!

        • Nope, we have the evidence of self serving hatred and laughable ignorance coming from you.

        • Mezzavagenda

          Doe watching Blazing Saddles confuse and hurt you? I hope so. Gene Wilder would piss on your shoes you buzzard humping idiot. You can’t even use the race card in the right context. Jesus,what a white power failure you are.

        • dshwa

          Ahh, the “I know you are but what am I” defense comes out. Did you not ever get past 2nd grade?

    • You mean the fact that his wife did NOT mention a gun is proof that he had a gun. “Don’t do it” could refer to walking toward the cops or walking away from the cops or having a temper tantrum.

      Or more likely that she was telling the fucking murderous cops not to “… do it,”

      You nothing are a victim blaming wanker intent on seeing evil in the actions of any person with a dark skin and in allowing out of control cops to get away with murder.

      • The Side-eye is forever

        I see I commented on the Black racist white hating site.. My bad.. I forgot logic and common sense is lost on people who support racist groups like BLM while doing nothing to help the black on black crime in their community. The black race is truly F’d

        • Shannanigans

          FUCK your “black on black crime” derailing bullshit. That’s not what any of this is about. You should feel shame but you have none.

        • CJTX

          I’m a white dude. So I’m a black racist? The problem with the black on black crime trope is that FUCKING COPS AREN”T SUPPOSED TO MURDER PEOPLE.
          *breathe*
          Repeat mantra: “It’s just a troll. It’s just a troll.”

          • Shannanigans

            Meet me at the Photogenic Fox for a drink.

          • CJTX

            I’d meet you any time for a drink. Sorry, I’m day drinking and getting flirty. ;)

          • Shannanigans

            I’m kidding anyway, since I’m still at work. I should probably leave, though, since everybody else is gone. There was a mass golfing exodus at lunchtime.

          • CJTX

            I know. ;)

          • SeekingBarbie

            Here, tickle this cute little kitty:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8

          • CJTX

            Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww….
            I’m such a sucker for kittens. And yes, I am in fact a tough and macho dude. But I still baby talk to the kittehs, and fuck people who don’t like it.

          • Shannanigans

            *blinks* I’m sure you ASK them first, though, right?

          • CJTX

            The cats or the people? No, the cats get baby talk whether they like it or not.

          • SeekingBarbie

            I talk baby-kitty talk to random cats I see while walking and biking in the neighborhood. They all seem to like it.

          • Jen B_VA

            I do not baby talk to the psycho. Instead, I speak psycho to her. Thusly:
            Hi-oon das kitten katten! You are the prettiest of all the kashi-doskas
            and she goes yes, I know this, now you may pet me and maybe I shall not bite you.

          • SeekingBarbie

            Funny, Miss Pepper says the same thing to me. It is the way of their people.

          • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

            phrasing!

          • CJTX

            Dammit, okay I see it now. Dangling muthafucking modifiers. Okay, fuck people who make fun of me for baby talking to the kittehs. Might be time to log off…

        • anwisok

          IF you said, “I trust the cops, let’s see what the investigation shows, but I think he had a gun.” that would be a reasonable statement. But you’re not. You’re declaring that he had a gun AND was pointing it at cops, with no actual evidence to back it up. Logic and common sense are not on your side in this one.

          • doktorzoom

            Even Charleston’s chief of police said the dashcam and body cam videos are not clear enough to show Scott pointing a gun, or what was in his hand.

        • SeekingBarbie

          Will you please go away and never return? Thank you.

        • Marceline

          In what universe do you think Wonkette is a black site?! It’s called WONKETTE for God’s sake. If you want to troll a black site (and you obviously very much do) try VerySmartBrothas. They would love your candy ass.

          • Jen B_VA

            Like all white power rangers, he is too afraid to actually talk to actual black people on their own “turf”

          • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

            thanks for the tip

        • rebecca

          well it’s a good thing you’re not racist. i hate to think what you’d say then.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Stormfront is that way ————>

          • Jen B_VA

            Turn that arrow about 90 degrees and you would be more accurate.

        • Bear OmNomNom

          The fact that I, a white person, hate seeing African-American fellow human beings get murdered by the state means I hate myself? Christ, these convolutions would give M.C. Escher a raging case of the vertigo pukes.

        • No you tried to troll a site that regards your insufferable ignorance and special pleading with contempt.

          By the way at least half the comments here are by white folks are you going to claim that we are “self hating”?

          Of course you will because you are a bigoted piece of shit, pure white – and I’d suggest you look up what pure means in relation to leather.

        • James Christopher Owen

          Your pretense of being concerned about “logic” (the meaning of which word I doubt you know) would be laughable were you not such a jerkass.

        • Mezzavagenda

          Wow. You are truly a moron of the first water. Take your racist bullshit back to whatever inbred pig fuckin backwater blog you usually inhabit.Grab banana sticker on the way out to show everyone you are a hateful Shitgibbon with the sense of a dead woodchuck and the grace of a melted dog turd.

        • dshwa

          Ahh, the old “Black on Black crime” meme. It’s been debunked by logical proofs a bunch of times, and I hate to say it, but that’s a racist tinged meme to its core. So yes, you are the racist, and should really go rethink your life.

        • Mezzavagenda

          If you are the future of the white race, us crackers is fucked. It’s bad enough we share the same species and live on the same continent.
          Go do something about white on white crime and quit beating your wife and stealing your neighbor’s mail.

          • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

            soon we will be the minority
            and I will revel in it when these same idiots demand some kind of special treatment

          • Mezzavagenda

            We will have to compensate for their inability to adapt and cooperate with others.

          • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

            nah, we can all sit around and make fun of them

    • TJ Barke
    • Marceline

      You are playing the wrong game and you are playing it on the wrong site.

    • Bear OmNomNom

      “Don’t do it”, as in don’t *get out of the car*, perhaps?

      Grrr… Must not engage troll… Must not eat troll…

      • The Side-eye is forever

        Thank you for proving my point … Encouraging her husband to disobey an officer is helping getting him shot…. He had a gun .. and was pointing it at police..

        • anwisok

          And you know this how?

          • Wes Grogan

            Obviously, because the voices are telling him that it’s true.

        • Jen B_VA

          Right because clearly, from the remainder of the vid, she is not CLEARLY telling the police not to shoot her husband.

        • MynameisBlarney

          You’re a goddamn shitty ass lying lair.

          • fredoandme

            i think you may be right.

            “only the family can view the footage.” side-eye

            soooo……

        • Bear OmNomNom

          Right, because the standard for justifying lethal force isn’t “threat to life”, it’s “mere disobedience”. Got it.

          Mods, City of Charlotte IP address on this one, by any chance?

        • MaiaAZ

          Liar. You have no way to know this so that leaves us with…you are a liar.

      • Berkeleybear94

        She actually asked him to get out earlier so the cops wouldn’t break down the window and drag him out. It is unclear what she is referring too – if you believe the gun was there it could be “suicide by cop” but it could also have just been her urging him not to be aggressive to the police. She never directly acknowledges a weapon and in fact denies he has one before he gets out of the car.

        And the troll is wrong – the law limiting release doesn’t kick in until Oct. 1 but Charlotte PD is slow playing this release in hopes to get there. Even under the law a judge can order the release on a petition of an interested party.

      • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

        if there’s one thing I’ve learned in life, it’s this:
        some stupid, you just can’t fix

        • Shannanigans

          But it’s kind of nice to have a lightning rod for all the rage. I mean, all the rage-voting.

          • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

            oh yeah
            vote away
            they’ll never change their minds so you might as well
            my only regret is that it feels like punching down

    • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

      I’m so sorry for you.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Mayhap you should fuck off back to whatever racist shit-hole site from whence ye came.

      • Jen B_VA

        Gene Wilder would beat this POS with his candy man cane and probably not even use votes.

    • James Christopher Owen

      She’s clearly telling police “he doesn’t have a gun”. You aren’t looking for the truth. Piss off.

    • MaiaAZ

      You are gross. Disgusting, and as said below, should go back to your shit-hole.

    • YetAnotherRebecca

      *takes a deep breath and remembers the commenting rules*

      You are a disgusting human being.

      • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

        none of these morons are worth the banhammer of the gods
        besides, they never stick around long enough to actually argue
        those that do, they tend to be able to actually have decent, adult conversations.

        • Mezzavagenda

          Except the two twatwaffles from yesterday on Rebecca’s Millenials hate Hillary post. Gods, how one droned on about purity and lack of fear and the other just patronized the female commenters and whined about his avatar.

          • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

            I am so glad I didn’t get on the internets until I was 26

    • doktorzoom

      Impressive psychic skills, but you’re banned anyway. Good luck in your creative bullshitting career. Bye.

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

  • anwisok
    • CJTX

      I happen to like this ridiculously photogenic fox. I’d love to have a a fox, but I’ve heard their yelps, and their annoying as f*ck.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/afe4af804750bb2781670d1bdd0f83ebf09df2f2453a191caccf9ac9ec3fa3a2.jpg

      • Shannanigans

        *staring hard at this right now while I breathe into a paper bag*

      • NellCote71

        I have a fox-faced dog. She is an irritating, neurotic, stubborn thing, but saved by her foxy looks.

        • SeekingBarbie

          I once had a gray kitty with a little foxy face. I called her Foxy Roxie. She was very clever and I miss her as I do all my sweet departed companions.

    • taco truck vagenda

      Someone let the air out of that dog.

      • CJTX

        no body shaming the puppies.. ;)

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Someone stole that poor dogz face bones…

    • Berkeleybear94

      That tiger looks like he/she can’t decide on bacon or chops. The red panda is as always adorable.

      • Shannanigans

        Panda’s face says: “You look like you probably have some grapes you’d love to give me!”

        • Berkeleybear94

          And I wish I did!

    • tehbaddr

      Piglets and Tigers lying together, mass hysteria, total madness!

    • Msgr_Moment

      Top photo: Tom Brady prefers his animals to be deflated as well.

  • Hardly Ideal

    Another beautiful day in the United States of Gun.

    We should just cut to the chase and shoot ever single person we encounter. This whole national experiment is clearly fucked.

    • Mezzavagenda

      I think giving every one we see a random stuffed animal might work out better in the long run.

    • Bear OmNomNom

      Agreed. After all, they could have a gun!

  • CJTX

    Since we’re posting soothing pictures of animals, I just found this (Seriously I don’t remember where or when I got it – I’m losing control!)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/58c7f556d44b810144240f755a7ef4dedeb26af0d75f4879c2e6968a58e9256c.jpg

  • Marceline

    BTW, does anyone remember a few weeks ago when the police in East Liverpool, OH released photos of two people overdosing on heroin with a four-year old in the car? I remember all these people on the internet cheering that on because it showed the reality of addiction. (Let’s ignore for a moment that those people were unable to give consent.)

    I wonder how many of those people are now playing the “we need to wait until all the facts are in” card?

    • Berkeleybear94

      AOT,K.

      Of course a lot of them also insisted LaVoy Finicum was murdered even after all the video was released.

  • A good buddy of ours recently moved back to Iceland. He’s sent us pics of himself beaming ear to ear while leading tour groups over some stunning glaciers.

    Sigh.

    • Walter Wellstone

      I like Iceland. The food is not great but continental Europe is not far, which is always refreshing.

      • zerosumgame0005

        they need a good Mexican restaurant there! let me immigrate and I’ll open one :)

        • Rufus T. Firefly

          Iceland needs taco trucks!

          • zerosumgame0005

            EVERYWHERE DOES!!!!

  • Beanz&Berryz

    We’re all here so deeply, sincerely sorry…

  • weejee

    I’m choosing not to watch, and am still sorry Mrs. Scott.

    • Berkeleybear94

      TPM put up a transcript and that was enough for me (well really more than enough).

  • Walter Wellstone

    I’ve had enough for today. Ted Cruz just dropped on his knees to give Donald a blowjob. That was expected but I don’t have the energy to make fun of those two. Fuck’em. I’m out.

    • James Christopher Owen

      If for no other reason, I’d have to say “I will never endorse someone who said the things he did about my wife and father”. But I suppose that expecting Cruz to have real moral principles or to care for anyone more than himself was expecting a bit too much.

    • Redgyal

      Whaaaaaaaaat? Donny must know some nasty secrets about the GOP leadership to be able to get away with this. Anyone else would have been gone by now.

  • Berkeleybear94

    This is horrifying. The idea that she basically is trying to both capture this and tell the cops he has an brain injury while also trying to calm him down – nope, nope, nope.

    Trump has already claimed Hillary’s the racist in all this for “giving a nod” to the idea the police (I guess as a global construction?) are a “racist force.” Which of course isn’t a fair construction of anything she’s said but what else is new.

    • Marceline

      At least, we’re done with the theater of Trump’s “outreach” to the black community. He’s got to go back to appeasing his base.

  • twinkie223

    Cannot watch. Cannot understand. Cannot cope. Heartfelt condolences to yet another family torn apart by police overkill.

  • Gregory Brown

    What in the ever loving f@#k were the police doing there in the first place? I haven’t seen any explanation for why they were there.

    • cmd

      They were in that apartment complex to serve a warrant on some totally unrelated person, is my understanding.

      • Jen B_VA

        Makes utter sense.

      • James Christopher Owen

        “Fit the description”, because all blahs look alike, and they’re all criminal types anyway.

        • SeekingBarbie

          And SCAREY!

    • zerosumgame0005

      1) black guy
      2) black guy in a nice car
      so of course he “fit the profile” of whatever they profiled him for…

    • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

      my understanding is that he “fit the description”

      • Jen B_VA

        Black. Male. Isolated and not with a bunch of people around.
        Fits the description!
        I want to see that description to see if it actually says 5″2 hispanic with blue eyes.

        • Gregory Brown

          So essentially, if the police are called to anyplace near where you are, it’s a really bad idea for you to be a black man at that moment. I think I have an idea for a business that will benefit black people and profit white people. It’s called White Friend. For a certain fee you, a black man, can rent a white friend who will accompany you each day, and will fend off any police who approach by deploying White Friend Privilege. “No, officer! This isn’t the guy! This is my best friend Maurice! We’re about to leave for the golf course!”

          • Sister Artemis

            A not terrible idea, in some ways, but I think we need white volunteers rather than charging the potential victims.

            Also too, HOW ABOUT WE STOP THIS FUCKING SLAUGHTER???!!!!????

            But till then, whatever it takes to keep people from being gunned down. Jeesus, this shit is making me so tired, and I am quite removed from it. Can’t even comprehend being in the middle of it.

          • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

            as long as they let me play my Apocalypse ’91 cd, I’ll volunteer.

          • Gregory Brown

            You know, maybe a white volunteer force, daring cops to violate white privilege while with a black friend, on a massive basis, would do more to interfere with the police tendency to be trigger happy, by inducing massive cognitive dissonance. By the way, the police tendency to shoot, and let the shootee bleed out, is a thing promoted by the cop unions. Those bastards are evil, and I am a union man at heart and a supporter of unions.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBQtuIrgcTw

          • I would do this for free, but I’m not entirely sure that it works that way. I’m a very, very white chick who is usually ignored by cops and gets warnings at traffic stops — but when I’m with my husband, who is often mistakenly read as Hispanic, they want to search my car or call the drug dogs to sniff it. That’s never happened to me when I’m alone — only when he’s with me.

          • guest1331now

            True stuff. I’m an old white guy, and (with some cops) my clothes, which car I’m driving (the new one or the old) and shave/no shave get me either treated with respect OR asked to allow a search of my vehicle. I can extrapolate from that superficiality of judgement to being a PoC … f*ck …

          • Gregory Brown

            Sugarplum, if carried out on a massive basis it actually would work, but it would be seen by black people as parentalism, something our American Indian friends know intimately, and would only be treating the symptom, not the cause of the disease.

          • Well, how about we just get the police to stop shooting first and asking questions later? That would be a good start.

          • Gregory Brown

            The national organization of chiefs of police and the Obama administration have been working on overhauling police training nationwide with that end in mind. Too much training has focused on a “warrior” mentality that, given the abundance of veterans entering police forces who already hold that mindset, is producing a shoot-first, ask-questions-later-practice.

    • doktorzoom

      They were serving a warrant for someone else who lived in the apartment complex — not Mr. Scott. Somehow, that detail stopped being included after the first day’s coverage, as other details piled up.

      • Gregory Brown

        Yeah, they stopped early because they found a “suspect” who was black. And he would do.

  • YetAnotherRebecca

    I cannot watch. And I cannot imagine this poor woman’s horror and the awful images of seeing her husband gunned down that will haunt her for the rest of her life. I became a 27 year old widow when my first husband was killed in a car accident (fun fact – my profile picture is the memorial tattoo I got in his honor) and one of the things I’ve always been thankful for (if one can be thankful for anything in a situation like that) is that wasn’t there to witness his death. That I never had to see his lifeless body gushing blood at the life fading from his eyes. Rakeyia Scott DID…she had to watch as her husband violently and senselessly killed right in front of her…I just cannot imagine…I have tears streaming down my face just thinking about the hell that she (and Philando Castile’s girlfriend, and I’m sure countless other senseless newly created widows and widowers) went through that day and will be confronting now for the rest of their life….

    I’m so upset that I’m shaking and crying. Mad and sad and depressed that this keeps happening….

    • Shannanigans

      Not only that, Mrs. Scott and Philando Castile’s girlfriend had to keep their shit together enough to try to negotiate with the police for their OWN lives while they filmed the evidence. I can’t even fucking imagine.

      • Mezzavagenda

        This. She couldn’t even go to him to hold his hand while he passed away. Like Tamir Rice’s sister being forced to sit on the ground I handcuffs for wanting to comfort her dying brother.

        • Shannanigans

          There are laws in place right now that require physicians to resuscitate an aborted fetus if it shows any sign of life but cops can leave a child they shot to bleed out and die on the ground. That’s a stratospheric level of fucked-upness.

          • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

            the whole thing with Tamir was a huge clusterfuck and anyone who can’t see that can kiss my ass

      • YetAnotherRebecca

        God, yeah. I remember being in absolute awe of the way Mr. Castile’s girlfriend (I believe her name ia Ms. Diamond Reynolds) reacted in that video. The way she kept so calm while talking to trembling screaming man child (WITH GUN STILL DRAWN) who had just shot the man she loves while he bleeds to death next to her. That woman is a goddamn superhero.

        • Shannanigans

          And her child was in the back seat.

    • James Christopher Owen

      I am so sorry for your beloved’s death. If everyone possessed the empathy that you exhibit, maybe we wouldn’t keep returning to these horrors on a weekly basis.

  • SullivanSt

    What the fuck happens between about 1:57 and 2:01 in the video?

    By 2:01 there is what looks like a gun on the ground. At 1:57 you can clearly see it is definitely not there.

    One cop is kneeling by Scott. I’m quite confident he’s not the source of the gun. Another is standing over the body. He turns and throws his hands back somewhat – as the camera shakes so you lose sight of where the object appears at 2:01.

    What am I seeing? Because I know what I think I see and I really don’t like it.

    • SullivanSt

      It looks like the cop in red then picks it up at 2:10.

      Is this the gun “recovered from the scene”? Because it sure doesn’t look like it was introduced into the scene by Scott.

    • Be Gin

      People are saying that peace officers can get around the use of body and dashboard cams with choreographed and carefully rehearsed arrangements between officers using hand cues and inexplicable camera vibrations which can create the magic needed to introduce reasonable doubt.

      People, some of whom are peace officers, are saying this. They are usually saying this as they socialize off duty.

      People are saying that manipulation of evidence and Outright Lying are Peace Officer Traditions, perks that go with the office and the badge.

      Other people are saying “Enough!”

      • SullivanSt

        The camera in this case was held by the wife of the deceased so the vibrations are more likely due to the distress of watching your loved one dying in front of your eyes and the fear his killers will do the same to you.

        But I really want to know what the fuck was going on there. The only other possibility I can think of is the cop in the red shirt being so shit scared he dropped his service weapon, which would also bring into question whether the trust we are asked to place in our police is earned.

  • James Christopher Owen

    What would Tea Party Republican and other copsuckers’ response be if these ghastly police murders were snuffing out the lives of white Ammon Bundy anti-government activists?

    Discuss.

    • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))
    • Duke

      It would include “jackbooted thugs” and how the Second Amendment is there so the government can’t abuse the people.

    • Mezzavagenda

      They would be martyrs for shooting cops. Who would invariably give them all the chances to back down without violence.

    • John Orendorff

      The government guys would be breaking the rules. If a white man in a cowboy hat points a gun at a Fed or cop, that’s called a “stand-off,” and the government guys have to slink away. This doesn’t apply to black people or, Lord forbid, a Muslim.

    • SullivanSt

      Calls for revolution, and possible sporadic attempts to start one, like the Millers.

    • MaiaAZ

      I’d like essays that compare and contrast, please. By Wednesday, in my mailbox.

    • Redgyal

      All lives matter, remember?

    • Jen B_VA

      We already know. After Levoy was shot reaching for his gun and refusing to comply with police, they screamed that the jack booted thugs were taken over.
      LeVoy, the “rancher” who made his living off the backs of slave labor via the foster care system.
      Difference of course, he was white.

      • guest1331now

        White’s right. (God, I hate having typed that even as sarc.)

  • ShriekinViolet

    My thoughts are furiously irrational and I suspect my prayers haven’t been heard in years so I’ve got neither thoughts nor prayers for Mrs. Scott.

    But what does that leave? Wishes, votes, sad nods of the head and a knowing look?

    I’m white and I don’t live in the US anymore but I can’t imagine what it must be like to be a black person just driving to work or going to meet a friend.

    I’m part of the problem. I grew up hearing and repeating racist jokes because that’s what my family did. I was afraid of the few “scary” black people we ever saw in our lily white city as my mom would lock the car doors when she would see black people. I justified assumptions and stereotypes because that’s what my community did. I have a lot of shame about that.

    I raise my daughter very differently and that’s a start. But there’s more that we need to do. It’s just hard to know what that is sometimes, how to stand in solidarity, how to educate, how to support without co-opting.

    So that’s a long rant to say I don’t know what to do but I’m so heartbroken every time this becomes a news story. Over and over again.

  • dshwa

    Amen ‘Trix.

  • Sister Artemis

    Thanks for the kittens/trigger warning. My anger isn’t any less, but kittens do help us get through the days…
    [slinks off to ICanHazCheezBrgr land]

    • Mezzavagenda

      I’m off to the grocery store and chocolate desserts will be brought home as therapy. And I ain’t sharing. Well, I would but cake doesn’t travel well usually.

  • Nirrti

    So they say he was carrying a gun. I really need to see the receipts on that with the way police are getting away with thuggery left and right every time someone brown dies.

    • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

      receipts, copies of his background check, pictures with the sales clerk

      I mean, it’s not like there’s a chance it could have been planted or anything

      • arrrghle

        Not to mention that it’s not against the law to carry a gun there. Not against the law, let alone a capital offense.

        • Walter Wellstone

          Only if you’re white. Let’s not forget that. You get shot if you’re black and the cops catch you carrying a gun.

    • Stulexington

      Pics or it didn’t happen.

    • Sakonyachen

      Assumption of guilt.

      It’s not just for disenfranchised black men anymore.

  • dshwa

    One day closer to saying fuck it, I’m gonna go herd goats in Mongolia the rest of my life.

    • (((yugemancityfootyhands)))

      let me know if you want some company

      • guest1331now

        They have some cool Buddhism there, I hear. Something about compassion and wanting happy days for everyone …

        • (((Gosala the Deplorable)))

          Which is so much advanced by running away.

    • Be Gin

      No.

      Please Stay.

      We need you here. Those goats already have herders.You are one of our most valuable and dwindling resources; American citizens with enough brain, heart and spirit to say “NO!” to the reactionaries who would undo any and all progress made in this country since the civil war.

      • dshwa

        I could mail in ballot from my yurt.

        • Be Gin

          Yurt kidding me!

          • guest1331now

            oh ouch puns. But yes, stay here and fight (with votes and reasoned words) because WE ARE WINNING. Too many tears to come, but more progress is happening NOW in exposing and putting a stake in racist bullshit than at any time I can remember since 1970 or so.

          • pstockholm

            You Gobi you.

  • (((Gosala the Deplorable)))

    I am not sorry.

    Being sorry is a place of privilege. Being sorry means that you are sad for someone else, for someone whose sorrows are at a distance.

    I am angry. I am angry because this violation is not a violation of those people over there for whom I have nice feelings. This violation is a violation of people of whom I am a part, whose liberation is a piece with my own liberation.

    The blacks are not a people separate from me. I am not black, but blackness is integral with my being.

    So long as anyone is oppressed, I am oppressed. Or as MLK put it, “An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”

    • taco truck vagenda

      Well said.

      Also, genetically speaking, blackness is integral to all of us. The story of the human race is the story of blackness. We are all out of Africa:

      http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/22/science/ancient-dna-human-history.html?_r=0

      • guest1331now

        It is hard for me to say the right thing (SWIDT?) about how integral Black culture is to being American. If you grew up here, then you are part Black, culturally — but if you’re not black — if cops don’t see you as black — then there’s a good chance that you’re ALSO racist. (Me, I was raised in the South to be a racist, the ‘polite’ kind not the KKK trash, so I know what I’m talking about.)

        Like, people who dance or nod along to smooth jazz or soul or swing or rock or hip hop (or country swing or whatever) and then look down on black folks — you lookin’ down on yourself, man. You’re not black, but you’re not NOT black. You owe part of yourself to a world you don’t respect. The house of your (my) whiteness was built by enslaved persons and their descendants, so to speak.

        Even if you are Black, it can be f*d up: “The other day I caught myself being racist against myself.” Dave Chappelle.

        ‘That’s some fucked up shit there.’ But it’s getting better, slowly, too slowly, but it’s getting better. Keep those cell phones and cameras handy!

        • coozledad

          “Whiteness” is the construct. It’s delusional.

          • guest1331now

            Yeh, I like that. Let’s deconstruct all this shit (one of the few uses of that term that I might get behind!) and construct something variegated and with local cultural flavors and HUMAN. I know it’s not impossible in principle. ‘Long row to hoe’ as they say round here.

        • Implicit bias, internalized racism, institutionalized racism. We participate in a corrupt system. Reach across the divide and try to make someone’s life just a little better.

    • coozledad

      And that’s why America is doubly perverse. These people aren’t alien. They’re family. This is fratricide. The Spartans were monsters because they targeted the weak. We’ll be regarded by history as monsters because we denied our siblings an even chance.

      • The main task of White America in this is to empathize with Black America and for just a moment feel a tenth of what Black Americans must feel every waking moment of every waking day and marvel at why there hasn’t been an actual shooting blood fucking bath.

        And realize the the caustic soul destroying experience that Black Americans have to put up with every fucking day.

  • Shibusa
    • guest1331now

      My Lakota friend says, ‘Puppies make me hungry.’

      Jeez, tho, that head-turning thing IS cute …

      • Shannanigans

        I know why this makes me laugh so much but I’m not even going to try to explain why.

        *still giggling*

        • guest1331now

          Bumper sticker on the rez: ‘I don’t love you no more since you ate my dog.’

          • Shannanigans

            I guess it’s no worse than pork…

    • Sakonyachen

      Thanks for the puppies. But even they can’t make me less angry at this bullshit anymore. They almost make me more angry. Don’t feel bad for trying. Kudos for that.

    • phoenix00

      All those heads turning… so mesmerizing

  • TanzbodenKoenig

    “No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend’s or of thine own were: any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee.”

    • guest1331now

      Wish more of today’s ‘Christian conservatives’ were reading the Christian classics like this one …

  • guest1331now

    Remember, all this shit is coming up because WE ARE WINNING. These deaths and lies are not a new thing — what’s new is that THE WHOLE WORLD IS AWARE OF THEM NOW. What’s new is that so many of them are on video, what’s new is that they are getting any scrutiny at all, what’s new is that it’s no longer automatic that the cops’ stories are the ‘truth’, period. Still a LONG way to go to anything we can call ‘liberty and justice for all’, but the bigots and the white suprematists are actually f*ing scared because they know it’s happening, their days in control are f*ing numbered. So they turn to daddy-hero-scumbag-talking Cheetoh Trump to save them — yet another sign of their desperation. Still a LONG way to go and too many tears to come but WE ARE WINNING

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwcKwGS7OSQ

    • guest1331now

      Now the super-rich, that’s another problem. That’s a lot tougher than getting marriage equality or better policing …

  • Rick Hill

    And the “Pry my gun” crowd attacks him…

  • berkeleyfarm

    Thank you, Rebecca.

    Lord, have mercy on us all.

  • Marceline

    I finally watched.

    The part I hate the most is the part where she knew she couldn’t go to him so she just kept recording. Imagine that. Your loved one is shot in front of you and you know that if you go to them you will end up the same way so you stay frozen in place and record their death.

    Also…he had a TBI. She screams that over and over and they either don’t hear or don’t give a fuck.

    Cops have become the modern day equivalent of slave catchers.

    • JayGoldenBeach

      Modern American policing is directly descended from Southern slave patrols aka slave catcher militias.

  • atheist

    And the police just announced they found a gun, how convenient.

    • Walter Wellstone

      And so it goes. But let’s not try to use the Second Amendment argument. It won’t work because Mr. Scott was black.

  • I hate everything about this. It makes me feel angry and sad and helpless, and I want to DO SOMETHING to make it stop, but I don’t know what or how.

    • Jen B_VA

      Vote. Organize. Drive a bus. Knock on doors and help register people. Get involved with your local boards and put your foot down. Start petitions, sign petitions, be an agent of change.
      But above all, vote, every election every time, even the boring local things.

      • I know. But it’s not working fast enough.

        • guest1331now

          That’s the f*cked up thing. This is the legacy of slavery, so it’s, what, five centuries old? So it won’t give up easy. I am 60 — I remember Watts riots, Detroit riots, the shooting of Dr. King and more riots (on TV) — I remember when the schools I attended were integrated. I saw the first African American get elected and then re-elected president. Oh, it’s too slow, but it’s gonna come down. Like the old spiritual, ‘Satan, your kingdom must come down.’

          • Shannanigans

            Nothing against you but…why does it take people who have no actual vested personal-safety interest in this shit getting involved in it to actually CHANGE it for the people whose lives it actually DOES impact on a day to day basis?

            I feel stupid even asking that question. I shouldn’t even have to, but I did.

          • guest1331now

            Thinking …

          • guest1331now

            From somebody else’s comment: “An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

          • Shannanigans

            I know, but…it seems like a different thing than that to me right now. I guess that quote in itself makes me sad because it sounds like white people haven’t generally had the incentive to do anything about the chronic injustices visited on black people until they felt like they were threatened with the same injustices themselves. Maybe that’s not exactly what that quote means, or what you meant by putting it up there…I’m just really tired and sad so that’s where my brain is at the moment.

          • guest1331now

            Loves to you. It’s messy stuff–but I have seen things actually getting better — when I was born (1956), there were people still living who remembered ‘slavery days’ in this country. I remember the day Dr. King was shot, and I remember the night I saw an African American get elected president — and then he got re-elected. It’s f’d up, and will be for a long time, but things DO change for the better if enough of us agree that it’s going to happen. Night night.

          • Sunnyinwyoming

            I think that racism, like sexism, is really subtle so we don’t recognize it in ourselves even when we want to. My experience as a woman is that I have to have some sort of proof that what I’m saying is true (and how often is that actually caught on video) or my experience is either minimized or dismissed altogether by most men (including dad and hubby). I imagine that minorities have faced the same thing, when they’ve described their experience to white people it is minimized or dismissed, unless there’s some sort of proof. Now with the ubiquity of cell phone cameras there is some proof so we are more likely to believe. Maybe when doubt is no longer an automatic, but subconscious thing, racism and sexism will actually be a thing of the past.

          • Shannanigans

            Yes. I think I understand it similarly to you as a woman. People don’t want to believe it’s happening because then they might feel like they should DO something about it.

          • laineypc

            We have lived in separate worlds for a very long time. Easy to “other” each other. It’s slowly changing, but far too slowly. I wish things could change for race as quickly as it has changed for LGBTQ rights.

          • Shannanigans

            Yes. Except that straights didn’t create LGBTQ folk (I mean, other than by giving birth to them, for the most part) whereas whites created slavery and then tried their damnedest to maintain it via the institutionalized racism that still lingers today. While we still have this huge history that even “good white people” can’t acknowledge because it makes them uncomfortable due to their White Guilt…yeah, change is going to take a long time.

            Even people like me, raised as a good little liberal who thought she couldn’t POSSIBLY be racist, finally had to admit she was when she eventually met Black people from different countries and realized she felt differently about them than about her fellow non-white citizens. I came to that realization on my own, just from living life, but there are a lot of people who still need to be MADE to feel uncomfortable and forced to examine why that is. Hopefully, they don’t have to watch too many more live streaming videos of Black people being murdered for it to sink in.

          • Biel_ze_Bubba

            Because majority rules, and you’re pretty well fucked if you don’t have the majority behind you.

    • Walter Wellstone

      Let’s defeat Trump and let’s defeat the Republican Party downballot. That’s a good start.

    • And that’s how Rakieya Scott felt but times infinity. Black people live in an insane country every single day. Every day. That is something that I find impossible to wrap my head around.

    • BadWolfGirl

      Get angry. Turn it into positive action. Volunteer with your local Hillz office or use the call tool on her website. Speak out with your vote & get involved. We are but one race…the human race…we must all stand up and say no more killing. Doing nothing implies acceptance & agreement. My heart breaks for the Scott family & Mrs. Scott is truly a superhero.

  • Marceline

    Sorry if I’ve missed this but do we know the names of the cops involved in this slaughter?

    • kareemachan

      Well, the one who *might* be prosecuted is a woman named Betty Shelby. She has a history of domestic abuse (on the abuser end, not abusee).

  • guest1331now

    How does releasing the bodycam video compromise ‘the integrity of the investigation’ for cryin out loud? Seen too many of these lately–couldn’t bring myself to watch this one yet.

    It’s not the individual cops, so much as it’s the system that trains and supervises them. 18-y-o soldiers who are getting shot at get court-martialed for killing civilians who are not an active threat. If we can train soldiers and marines to not kill enemy-looking civilians, we could train our cops to the same standard. That has to be the demand — prosecuting a few individual cops won’t change things. It needs to be new rules of engagement for cops, the right training, and the right supervision. DON’T KILL CIVILIANS MOTHERF*CKERS! And fire the captains and chiefs that don’t get it done.

    • Regardless of whether he had a gun or not. What is clear from the video is that he was not threatening the police and they could have deescalated the situation instead of escalating it.

      • guest1331now

        Yes. Young men and women of 18 and 19 can be trained NOT to pull the trigger just because they feel scared or disrespected — it’s called discipline, and soldiers and Marines learn it. Cops could too.

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    You call the cops when you are the victim of a crime, right? Who the hell do you call when you are the victim of a cop?

    • Walter Wellstone

      You call your family, your friends and anyone you know to come to your help. I’m thinking we should all install cameras in our cars, the ones taxi drivers use, and train ourselves to start recording whenever a cop approaches us. It would be nice if the cameras could broadcast straight to Facebook or Periscope and a list of designated people got a notification that a potential murder-by-cop may be in progress so they all can come to help out.

      • Black people already do this. It didn’t help the Scotts, but you know.

    • coozledad

      You build parallel or subterranean governmental structures, which the authorities will target as seditious. (unless you’re white- then you go on Hannity’s show and beat off in public)

    • Pookabun

      Realistically, nobody. They get away with it no matter what. Video doesn’t seem to make any real difference, eyewitnesses don’t make any difference. Nothing does.

      • guest1331now

        Video is making a difference, if too slowly. The cop who shot the man in the back last year and was caught on a cell phone video (sorry, the names elude me) would have walked, but instead is in prison. The Tulsa shooter is at least going to trial or a plea hearing, and won’t be a cop any more. At least the police versions of events are being questioned, and sometimes overturned. And more video means more expensive lawsuit settlements, that have city politicians unhappy.

        But all this has to lead to major changes in how police departments are run, in how officers are trained and supervised. It’s not just individual cops, it’s whole departments that are to blame, and the cumulative effect of so many videos, and of people demanding change, is going to move the system some. I believe that it’s making a difference, in part b/c I remember things like the riots in 65 and 67, and I remember the day Dr. King was shot, and when my schools were desegregated. I know progress has been made and is being made. Too, too slow, but it’s being made.

        • Pookabun

          Yes, I know, sorry I just get depressed about it. Sometimes it seems like only the details change, the underlying problem of ignorance and bigotry and hate just won’t budge. In my better moods I am aware that slow change does genuinely happen. Slow like mountains forming, it feels like, but nevertheless.

    • There is an app for that. You can use an app to notify friends and family about as fast as you can call 911.

    • guest1331now

      This is sad, this is beyond f*cked up, but sometimes you call a lawyer and sue the system that victimized you; call the TV stations and make your humanity heard; call on people with a sense of justice to come out and demand that the systemic problems (rules for use of force, poor training, poor supervision, alienation from the communities they are ‘serving’, and protection of bad cops) must be addressed. Support BLM. Call out racists (with your words and your votes). Vote. In other words, you try to keep it from happening to the next person, cause it already happened to you.

      • Stulexington

        In short, you call we the people. And more and more, we the people are answering.

  • I don’t know which is worse: watching the video knowing that this woman’s husband of 20 years is about to die or the anticipation that she has of his impending death. It is a nightmare. She knows the risk and is doing everything she can to stop it.

    And that is the reality of Black America. That is the reality. She predicts the death of her husband and does everything she can to stop it and can’t.

    United Fucking States of Fucking Stupid

  • I’m watching Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC right now and he’s showing a second cell phone video that has been taken from an apartment. I’ve watched all day and haven’t seen this before.

  • Here is the great irony: White America is waking up to this reality and wondering in a very real and astonished way, How could this have happened in America? What has happened to my America? Meanwhile, in Black America this is par for the course. The difference is the video phone.

    White America can no longer deny what Black America has experienced every day from the beginning.

    • guest1331now

      Amen amen amen. It’s still possible to deny, but it’s getting harder. The pressure is mounting to make major institutional changes. It’s like the pictures of firehoses and police dogs and the bombing victims in Birmingham in 1963.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b30fdd6d9bd30462336ea7436c38daafdf150e53c73159d18f4f8e8f317a53d.jpg

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c9018a08578bfff48ef715cfb45ca186c712ca0a718b8b73e6fefd926723dc7f.jpg

      But it’s just one more stage in a centuries-long struggle for justice and freedom.

      • Amen. Change happens when we recognize that the people these terrible no good things are happening to are the same as we are. When you look at those little girls who died in the bombing could be your little girls. when you see the man bitten by the dogs could be you. then, the outrage necessary to support change occurs. Really, it is recognizing that Black people are as human as white people.

    • cat cafe

      Amen. This is exactly true. Finally white America is seeing it.

    • At the corner, turn left

      The really scummy part, though, is that segment of White America that sees that and sees in it a reinforcement of their deeply held bigot beliefs. We all know in which basket they can be found.

  • worstcultever

    I can’t watch. I can’t fucking stand it. This shit is beyond endurance. FUCK FUCK FUCK

    • guest1331now

      Yeah. But IT’S BETTER NOW THAN IT’S EVER BEEN. It used to be worse. It still sucks, especially for the human beings directly hurt by … by this shit … but it’s actually getting better overall. At least there’s some pretense of investigation. At least there’s evidence on video that makes it harder for the cops to cover up. Oh, man, when I was born (1956), people were alive who remembered slavery days. My actual lifetime overlapped the lifetimes of human beings BORN INTO SLAVERY IN THIS COUNTRY. People the same age as me actually touched and talked to human beings born enslaved in this country. Un-fucking-imaginable. So this is intolerable, intolerable, I still can’t watch it, but it’s actually better than it used to be. At least now THE WHOLE WORLD SEES IT.

      • cat cafe

        This ^^^^ At least, finally everyone is seeing it. The whole world is watching!

  • JayGoldenBeach

    “I promised transparency; I did not promise full transparency. Transparency is in the eye of the beholder.” – CMPD Chief Putney

    I have not heard the chief articulate the reason the officers engaged Mr. Scott to start with.

    If Michigan cops can spend 40 minutes talking a drunk white man brandishing a shotgun on a public sidewalk into complying, then cops can spend a few minutes for everybody else.

    http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2014/06/dash_cam_footage_from_open_car.html

    • guest1331now

      Yes, exactly. It’s institutional — department policies, regulations for use of force, training, supervision, enforcement of policies, consequences for supervisors if officers fuck up, and (yes) transparency, not ‘circle the wagons’. And it’s going to be like school desegregation — district by district, department by department, lawsuit by lawsuit, for decades. Fuuuck. But it can be done.

      • kareemachan

        Prosecutions may not “fix” it, but by God, at least maybe – just possibly MAYBE – they’ll think twice.

  • CJTX
  • Pinkham’s Law

    Hilarious, but sad as hell at the same time:
    https://www.facebook.com/KhadiDon/videos/877139109052514/

  • nightmoth

    Thx, Rebecca, and Amen. Your nightmoth was the only white person working the Democratic booth at the county fair here in rural Georgia last night. While watching the Trump signs fly out of the Republican booth, a fellow Democrat commented that she thinks things are worse than they were in the sixties, when we both grew up. We had to remind ourselves to count our blessings: jobs open to people of color that were never open before, school integration, voting rights, but when I said, “No more lynchings” she said, “Now we’re shot by police instead of lynch mobs.”

    • jmk

      Thank you for being in that booth.

  • nightmoth

    Also, thanks for omitting the NYT warning about “graphic language” on this. I don’t give a fuck if anybody watches this and gets upset by bad words.

  • MamaBrown

    anyone who watches this and says “but…..” does not deserve to be called human. Its serve and protect, not contain, subdue and kill. Jesus.

  • Alan

    Sorry, I still have to put myself in the position of a cop. As long as legislatures insist that anyone can walk into a corner store, buy a gun, and walk around with it, people will get shot. They will even get shot when they have a toy gun or something that looks like a gun. I got pulled over for speeding recently and the first thing the officer asked as he approached (with his hand on his holster) was whether I had a weapon. WTF? When did that become a thing? Yet the cop who was facing a stranger with a gun is the one who gets blamed. There’s a reason that cops don’t shoot people in the UK, Canada, France, etc. It’s because people don’t wander around with guns. Period. People getting shot by police is bad. People getting shot by anyone is bad. But if you arm people with guns intended to kill people someone is going to get shot. I’m actually surprised it doesn’t happen more often. Don’t want police to shoot people? Don’t let people have guns.

    • nightmoth

      Yes, there are too many guns, too many addled people with guns, too few gun restrictions, BUT—-black men, and boys, with guns are exponentially more likely to be killed by police than white men with guns.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daVhasi95c4
      (sorry about the ad embedded at the beginning of this)

      • Alan

        I’m not sure what the point of an anecdotal video is. Data suggests that there isn’t much difference. But that’s not my field and that wasn’t my point.

        • nightmoth

          Comparing how many white people are killed by police to how many black people are killed by the police is statistically dubious unless you first adjust for population. Data shows that whites are 62% of the population and 49% of those killed by police. Blacks are 13% of the population and 24% of those killed by police. That means that black Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be shot and killed by police than white Americans. I agreed with you that there are too many guns but if you think that 2nd Amendment absolutists are going to see reason anytime soon about their arsenals then I have beachfront real estate to sell you. What CAN be changed and must be changed is police hiring and training.

          • Alan

            Actually, that’s not indicative of anything because you failed to account for interactions with police. The perpetrator is black in about 30% of crime in the US. Evidence suggests that it’s much higher because of non-reporting. Percentage of population is irrelevant, you have to consider probability of getting shot conditional on an interaction with police and black people are actually less likely to get killed given that they are interacting with police although that’s statistically insignificant. The best evidence is here, a result that shocked the researcher. http://www.nber.org/papers/w22399.pdf. This whole argument really sounds a lot like the wingnuts that scream that black people must somehow be inherently violent because they commit more crime. You are claiming that they are disproportionately shot as a percentage of population but that’s just as meaningless. The single biggest indicators of criminal activity are income and educational attainment. If you economically and educationally marginalize an entire group of people those people are going to engage in more criminal activity. This entire focus on police is misguided. Stop giving everyone guns. Stop cutting funding for education and social programs. Start caring about the schools and programs available regardless of someone’s income. Try giving everyone the same opportunity from birth. If you are born black in the US you are more than 2 1/2 times as likely to be born into poverty than if you are born white. People who live in poverty are more likely to drop out of school, less likely to have a marketable skill, and more likely to engage in criminal activity. That’s independent of race. Anyone who thinks you have the same opportunity is just plain nuts. But seriously, stop yelling racism every time someone with a gun gets shot by the police because there is zero statistical difference in the rate of shootings given there is an interaction with police and there is no statistical difference in rate of interactions with police given the rate of involvement in criminal activity. Worry about the root causes instead.

          • nightmoth

            You think I don’t know and worry and do what I can about “the root causes” instead? Save the lecture: you’re preaching to the choir. Of COURSE, people in this country don’t have the same opportunities from birth. You know, you would benefit from less academia and more interaction and anecdotal evidence from those people you’re describing. My husband and I both chose jobs in which we do that. That’s how I know about the crippled black preacher one town over who had a cop pull a gun on him because he didn’t get out of the car fast enough after a traffic stop. (Fortunately, the cop had a sane partner so the preacher was not shot.)
            That’s how I know that the white meth dealer in my town never went to jail: instead got 2 years probation: while a black pot dealer got 10 years. My husband, a paramedic, got called to the scene too late to revive a black woman put in a chokehold by police after she shoplifted from WalMart. Our wealthy white neighbor’s son got into a domestic with his girlfriend. When the police came, he fired at them WITH AN AK-47 and they CALLED HIS PARENTS to come talk him down. We are focusing on police because police are now the de facto social workers, medics, and psychologists who get called to any and every scene. Yes, that’s a result of repeated GOP cuts of social programs. You think that money’s coming back anytime soon? I don’t. Those cuts have hurt black people more than white people, because white people, rich or poor, are surrounded by a cushion of privilege that they don’t even acknowledge.
            How hard would it have been for the Charlotte police to stop and say to Mrs. Scott, “Oh, you’re his wife? What’s going on here, ma’am? Come talk to him.” If Tamir Rice had been a 12 year old white kid playing with a REAL gun (instead of the toy that it was) would the police have zoomed up beside him and opened fire? I often see 12 year old white boys with guns and nobody blinks an eye over it. The inequalities in this country are not just poverty based. They are based on systemic racism, and the sooner we understand this and the sooner we LEARN our history instead of glossing it over, the stronger we will be as a country.

          • Frank Underboob

            Well said.

          • nightmoth

            Thanks. I appreciate it.

          • Alan

            You seem quite rude.

          • nightmoth

            You seem in denial about the existence of racism.

          • Alan

            No, that’s not rude at all, it’s just a fact. What is rude is beginning with “if you think…” and proceeding to argue with something nobody said. And yes, you are kind of ranting off topic. You are one straw man after another. Nobody denied the existence of racism. I made exactly one point, that black men are no more likely to die, given that they have contact with police, than anyone else, a fact supported by the very information that you yourself posted, and you have made it about everything but that. Of course there is systemic racism in just about every facet of life but that wasn’t the topic of the article or my comment.

          • dreameagle

            Oh you still will protect those shot black tugs what they “DIDN’T” obey the commands from police? Maybe that’s why the white kids survive, because they DID. And about Keith Scott? Are you kidding? Her recording was clear!! She said: Don’t do it Scott, don’t do it, don’t you do it!! WHAT that means? Don’t read the book you idiot?

          • nightmoth

            Fuck off, asshole.

          • Dreameagle

            Can’t take that truth? Fuck you too thug!!!

          • nightmoth

            Fuck off, little white puckered asshole. Keep dreaming of carcasses.

          • nightmoth
          • Alan

            Wow, I don’t know if you’re not reading or you’re trying to change the subject. The very first line of that NBC study reads “Black people are more likely to be stopped by police but — once they are stopped — they are less likely to be shot than whites, new research finds”. Pretty sure that was my entire point. Yes, blacks are more likely to be stopped, more likely to be handcuffed, more likely to be a victim of physical violence, more likely to be arrested, more likely to go to jail, more likely to receive a sentence of incarceration, but less likely to die. That was the entire point.

          • nightmoth

            There is a problem with the way the police perceive and interact with people of color.

          • Alan

            Of course there is, nobody said otherwise.

          • Frank Underboob

            “Evidence suggests that it’s much higher because of non-reporting.”
            Why would that be more true of black people than of white people?
            Seems to me that you’re just another racist.

          • Alan

            Wow, it’s no wonder people can’t have an intelligent discussion about important issues if your response is to call complete strangers names. Seems to me you need to grow up or at least get a dictionary. But to answer your question, which I thought was common knowledge, black people are disproportionately victims of crime in the US, they are overwhelmingly victims of crimes committed by black people, and they are overall less likely to report crimes, particularly non-violent crimes. Why? Oh I don’t know, maybe because they don’t trust the police to actually do anything because the victim is black?

    • Frank Underboob

      Except that white cops seem to be perfectly capable of arresting armed white men without anyone being shot.

      • Alan

        Anecdotal.

        • Frank Underboob

          How many Youtube videos have you seen of cops shooting white people? Even when angry white men are waving guns at the cops, they generally seem to be able to arrest them without shooting them.

          • Alan

            You don’t seem to be thinking much. Watching youtube videos is evidence of nothing. There is, however, sufficient evidence that a black person is no more likely to die as a result of an interaction with police than anyone else. Don’t know what to tell you if you don’t like evidence.

          • DT

            That’s not actually what the stats say.

          • Frank Underboob

            There is, however, sufficient evidence that a black person is no more likely to die as a result of an interaction with police than anyone else.

            [Citation needed]

    • GetRealBitches

      You do know that the guns all the liberals want banned here anyone can own in Canada don’t you? Short barreled rifles sound suppressors etc…and what good do gun laws do France or the UK when they let anyone drive across their border with AK47’s and explosives? They damn sure didn’t buy those AK’s in France to shoot up Charlie Hebdo. So there goes your theory

      • Alan

        Ya know, I thought this thread was long dead but you had to go and make things up. No, handguns and any rifle shorter than 660mm or any rifle with a barrel less than 450mm are prohibited in Canada. Any firearm with automatic capability, whether altered to be single shot or semi-automatic, is also prohibited. Beyond that, the requirements to purchase, possess, or just transport a restricted firearm are very, very strict. No, you can’t go to Canada and buy weapons and bring them to the US, it works the other way around. And the rest of your non-logic is not even worth responding to.

        • dreameagle

          You said non logic to GRB? Hers is very logic compare to yours. Criminals always will get a gun if they want. Guns don’t kill you, smart guy, but people do, if you didn’t realize it. Specially now when cops are target of Racist BLM it is important to have a gun to be protected against criminal thugs!!!

  • OddMan

    Am I the only one who saw the video of the shooting and thought that ‘gun’ was planted? It sure looked like it to me. It was not there on the ground and then there it was.
    Something very fishy, and this is the reason the cops will not release their own tapes I suspect. It might not have been planted, but the evidence the cops have is ‘secret ‘. Yeah right.

    • GetRealBitches

      Don’t you feel fucking stupid now ? All you liberals and monkeys kill me, shot another unarmed black man….that stupid bitch hollering “he doesn’t have a gun” your dumbass self saying ” it was planted”. You know how I knew her version was bullshit to start with? She said he was reading a book! When have you ever seen a moon cricket sitting in a car reading a fucking book? Well, guess what, the headlines should’ve read “NO book recovered at the seen”!!! Planted? Did your dumbass see the ankle holster on his ankle when he was dancing around the prkg lot or did you miss that too? Guess they strapped that on him after he was dead. Also they must’ve doctored his criminal record where he had previous gun charges. You all should feel stupid. But hey, any excuse to go out and loot some new Jordan’s is “ahiiiite wit chou huh? Funny how since they proved he was a criminal and that bitch lied nobody’s heard a fucking word about anymore!

      • doktorzoom

        Haw haw haw, who ever heard of a black person reading a book? Bye.

        — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

  • Hi-Energy Fist

    I am always desperate to seem ever so droll when I comment here. Not this time. This is just horrific.

    • Andrea Jacobsen

      Agreed

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