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Gun safety: You're doin' it wrong
Gun safety: You’re doin’ it wrong

Here’s something that is not even a tiny bit funny: Ted Cruz casually and negligently mishandling a deadly weapon. You can watch the video, if you’re craving some Cruz blah blahing about why a Republican like Sean Hannity should moderate the Republican debates, but you’re not missing anything there.

What you’ll want to not miss is the picture above, of Cruz demonstrating how to “accidentally” kill someone, maybe in that farmhouse not far behind him. Oops, bang bang, sorry, kid — you’re dead.

Cruz, who so loves his guns that he supposedly uses them to fry up his breakfast bacon, is demonstrating to the kids at home exactly how not to handle a gun. Anyone who has had even a second of firearm safety training can recite the rules for you, but in case you’re not one of those anyones, here they are:

  1. Treat all guns as if they are loaded.
  2. Never point a firearm at something you’re not willing to destroy.
  3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
  4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

These are the rules. At all times, these are the rules. Even if you think you know better. Even if you are a licensed firearm instructor. Even if you are so sure that gun isn’t loaded. Even if you are positive you’re the only living creature within a 100-mile radius. Even if you’re certain it’s set to safety. Even if you’ve been shooting guns since you were knee-high. Even if, always if, every single time.

Because this guy, who killed his 11-year-old nephew, thought his gun wasn’t loaded. Because this Easter Sunday churchgoer had a gun in his pocket that was not, it turns out, on safety. Because this lady shot herself dead with a gun she had “secured” in her bra holster, pointing at her head. Because this guy shot himself in the dick, and then blamed it on “a black guy.” Classy!

Because this DEA agent shot himself while teaching a class on gun safety, at the very second he was telling the students:

This is a Glock 40. Fifty Cent, Too Short, all of them talk about a Glock 40, OK? I’m the only one in this room professional enough that I know of to carry this Glock 40. I’m the only one — [BANG!]

Because of all these responsible gun owners who do not follow THEFUCKINGRULES. And that’s not even including the shootings-by-toddler — on a weekly basis nowadays, good job, America! — whose negligently stupid parents or caretakers didn’t think it necessary to keep those guns locked in safes, where they belong.

The muzzle of Ted Cruz’s break-action gun is pointing all over the place — at the buildings, at people who might be behind him, but he doesn’t know because he’s not looking over his shoulder — instead of at the ground, in front of him, where he can see it. That’s where you are supposed to point your gun, even if if if if and if. Always.

As a passionate gun enthusiast and advocate for completely unregulated gun ownership — a position very few gun owners, including NRA members, agree with — Cruz should not only know better, but he should show better. He should be a model of responsible gun ownership, not just a blowhard in a hunting costume, posing with his deadly long-arm prop and making silly ads about wrapping bacon around his dick. Sorry, “machine gun.”  That is, if he’s the gun enthusiast he claims to be and has ever shot a gun when the cameras aren’t rolling.

We can, and do, argue about how to reduce the number of gun deaths in America. Fewer guns, less accessible ammo, stricter background checks, stronger mental healthcare. All of the above.

But here is a FACT that is not debatable: We can reduce those “accidental” gun deaths to zero if every single gun owner in America, like Ted Cruz, follows the fucking rules. Every single time. No exceptions.

Better still if they supported legislation to require every single gun owner in America to take extensive gun safety training — every time they purchase a gun, and on a regular basis, for as long as they own a gun, so they don’t get rusty on what the rules are.

Gun rights advocates like Cruz and his fellow Republicans are not going to change any minds by blaming gun deaths on abortion or gun-free zones or (Jesus Christ) a lack of stickers. They sure as hell won’t do it by blaming unarmed Jews for the Holocaust. But if they really support the right of responsible gun owners to keep and bear arms (and full disclosure, Yr Wonkette does), they are obligated to be responsible gun owners and to demand that all other gun owners do the same. The consequences of failing to do so, even for a second, can be fatal.

Ted Cruz no doubt thought that gun slung over his shoulder was unloaded and in a safe position and any number of other unacceptable excuses. For a guy who values “life” as much as he claims to, Cruz ought not be quite so casual with the lives of those around him when he’s showing America the kind of shoot-em-up president he’d like to be. He ought to demonstrate the caution with that deadly weapon in his hands that is the obligation of all gun owners. We already had one vice president “accidentally” shoot a guy in the face. You’d think that would be enough.

[IndefinitelyWild via TPM]

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  • SuspectedDemocrat

    Yeah but you said “clip” instead of “magazine” and that kills more people than guns ever will!

    Srsly tho, looks like he took hunting lessons from Dick Cheney.

    • Well, there are plenty of lawyers in Texas, so no one noticed.

    • jakee308

      None of her examples of negligent discharge were with an over under break action shotgun that was open.

      Even if he put a shell in the chamber of the barrel, it still wouldn’t be able to kill or injure anyone.

      Since it’s empty and Cruz emptied it himself (or watched it being emptied) he is quite alright in carrying it this way. (btw carrying it with the barrel forward and down is not really recommended if you just got done shooting. Hot barrel. Also the stock provides a better gripping surface. And the reporters would be potential in the line of the barrel if it was forward.

      Unless or until he were to put it down and walk away and then come back to it would he violate any “rules” about gun safety and then only until he checked the chamber again.

      Oh, and they’re not LAWS. More like guide lines and recommendations.

      Nice try, thanks for playing.

    • mtn_philosoph

      Or Elmer Fudd.

    • mtn_philosoph

      Safe practices are only effective if we follow them 100% of the time, including in situations where they aren’t necessary (in our estimation). It’s why we stop at red lights at night on dark deserted roads. Effective safety practices are those that are so ingrained that we feel weird and sense that something is very wrong when they aren’t being followed to the letter, regardless of the particular circumstances.

      • Juan de Fuca

        Very well stated.

  • Nounverb911

    If only his lawyer’s face was armed.

    Sorry, wrong moron with shotgun.

  • Brewerofbeers

    Jeebus….

  • La Cieca

    I wish I could understand why you hate liberty so much.

    • Zippy

      Roll over Liberty…

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      Liberty Valance? Well, pilgrim, let me tell you. It all started 30 years ago with a stagecoach…

    • JMP

      I’ve seen it many times, used to work just a block away, and really it’s just not worth the hype, or the long lines to see; I mean it’s an old bell with a crack in it, that’s it. Better to just look at it from outside the pavilion, then spend your time at Independence Hall and the Constitution Center which are actually interesting.

      • Squirrel_t_robot

        I’ve heard tell, however, if you lick the crack it tastes like freedom.

        • SuspectedDemocrat

          And after you kiss it, you can talk for days on end about Jade Helm conspiracies.

    • Squirrel_t_robot

      Is Liberty your GF?

    • RoyalUglyDude

      LlBETY or TRANNY!!1

  • Lizzietish81
  • BadKitty904

    I don’t know the man (fortunately), but, from the way he handles that gun, Ted appears to be just as much a fake hunter as he is a fake legislator.

    • Spotts1701

      Well, that and the almost like-new look of his “hunting clothes”. They look like they just came out of the wrapper.

      • OneYieldRegular

        Is he intentionally playing Elmer Fudd?

        • Nounverb911

          Well, he IS a looney toon.

      • BadKitty904

        From the same GOP Prop Dept. as his gun and his “morals”, no doubt.

      • Squirrel_t_robot

        I noticed that bit right away.

        That hunting outfit has never been on a hunt; anyone can tell.

      • Zippy

        the LLBean or Bass Pro poseur look…

    • bookish

      Try to imagine pudding boy out tromping around in the sticks. Yeah, me neither. Just a photo op.

      • BadKitty904

        I mean, how much huntin’ and fishin’ can you do in the Harvard Yard?

    • ArgieBargie

      He started hunting around the same time he became a country music fan, shortly after 9/11.

  • ArgieBargie

    “Ted Cruz Doesn’t Care If He ‘Accidentally’ Blows Off Someone’s Head With A Shotgun

    There, fixed it for you.

  • Nounverb911

    Everything Cruz learned about hunting he learned from Elmer Fudd.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G8Xlx7dfT8

  • Zippy

    While the action is broken, making the gun safe for all practical purposes, it doesn’t take that much more effort to reverse it so it’s barrel down

    • Spotts1701

      Not to mention it probably hurts a lot less to get whacked in the head with the padded stock than it does with the metal barrel.

      • Zippy

        Indeed. More importantly, anyone behind him cannot see the open breach so they have no way of knowing. All it takes is to get sloppy and forget to clear the chamber, when the action closes the gun cocks and someone could die. Just elbow carry it or at least keep the barrel pointed down and be safe.

      • jakee308

        Padded stock? Here let me whack you one with that “padded stock”.

        Have you ever touched a shotgun? Have you even seen one in real life?

        You all are just showing your ignorance for all the world to see.

        • Spotts1701

          Yeah, I have. The entire time growing up until I left for college, my grandfather kept a 12-guage in the house loaded with snake shot to take care of the rattlers or coyotes (we lived out in a very rural area). Also had one of those old style Coach Guns like the guys on the Wells Fargo stage would carry. I’ve held them. I know exactly how they feel, how they balance. I respect the power that a weapon like that has.
          So check your crystal ball. It seems to be getting some interference.

        • Juan de Fuca

          “You all are just showing your ignorance for all the world to see.”

          Coming from a guy who stated the following on Disqus a few days ago:

          “Hawaii didn’t verify the location of brith people wrote on their application for a birth certificate.
          Obama won’t release those original records. All we’ve seen are copies that they’ve put together (literally)
          Most likely he lied and said he was from Kenya to get AA cred for school. Which is why he won’t allow the release of his school records.
          And after these last 7 years, I’m pretty convinced that Obama was not raised as an American. He was raised in a terrible mix of Muslim, anti americanism along with lefty and communist ideals then spent 20+ years marinating in Black Liberation Theology and Rev White’s on peculiar brand of anti white anti americanims.”
          So no he’s not an American and his every action in office has shown that to be the case.”

          Boy, all of the maggots are coming out of the woodwork, eh?

    • OddMan

      The rule is when you have the shotgun broken open, the barrel should be pointing DOWN. He is an amature poser.

  • Lefty Frizzell

    There’s something vewy vewy familiar looking about that picture….

  • Ludophile Ted: he likes his odds of not shooting himself.

    Your odds of him shooting you in the fucking face? LOL. Like he gives a shit about you….

    Cruz/Gambino 2016 – like you got options?

  • JMP

    He really is basically a male Sarah Palin.

    • BadKitty904

      But with less “wit” and “charm”.

      • calliecallie

        And far less hawt.

    • ArgieBargie

      Needs moar quittin’

    • TheBidenator

      Well Sarah is an imbecile who got her boobs swelled up for her national “let’s wink at and fleece the rubes” tour what she quit partway through. Ted Cruz is a dumb swollen tit who also refuses to go away so I’ll allow the comparison….

    • btwbfdimho

      “Hey Ted, I can shoot the new sub-Prime Minister of Canada from here”.

  • Sgt. Gym Bunny

    I don’t think one necessarily needs to own or even handle a gun to know those rules. I’ve never touched a gun, but I could intuit that much (because I am not A Idiot who wants to rapture myself, maybe). I think the only ones currently not aware of them are the 2nd Amendment Enthusiasts.

  • OneYieldRegular

    Given that Cruz was in the middle of recounting his hot fantasy about how the next Republican debate should feature (I’m not kidding) Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin as moderators, it’s a wonder he didn’t accidentally shoot himself.

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      He did! Fortunately the camera was only showing the waist-up view.

  • Lizzietish81

    I think you want the farm house over there…

  • JustPixelz

    A couple weeks ago I fired a gun for the first time in my life. That the range and instructor let me do so tells you all you need to know about the illusion of gun safety.

    • Lot_49

      As far as anti-social recreation goes, I’d rather ride a Jet-Ski.

      • JustPixelz

        I gave shooting a try. Fortunately I didn’t like it. Otherwise I’d have to leave wonket’s vile snark mob and write angry comments (which are allowed) at breitbart

        • SterWonk

          No, there are honest-to-God responsible gun owners here. You know, the people the NRA represented before the ’70s.

        • Historicat

          You didn’t want to step into role vacated by Neilist?

  • cousin itt

    In all fairness, it’s not like Ted is some kind of DICK Chemey.

  • Tallmutha

    You’re right, this isn’t funny. Now, Ted Cruz shooting himself in the dick with a gun secured in his bra holster– that would be funny.

    • TheBidenator

      Hah! For that image, you win the series of tubes and thank you, I needed that laugh.

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    • HogeyeGrex

      We’ll just have to settle for him repeatedly shooting himself in the dick with his words.

  • Squirrel_t_robot

    Full disclosure: yr Squirrel Robot supports the same.

    Troubles with supporting the 2nd are many, however: including the paucity of responsible firearm owners who know shit from shinola about firearm safety.
    Another is the nutty notion just this one amendment cannot be read as one that can limit gun and ammo sales, require safety classes, etc.

    Maybe if gun owners like Señor Cruz can finally emerge from their emotional fog of idolatry and hysterics over guns, America can be on the road to smarter firearm laws.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      The “well regulated militia” part gets completely ignored, because no one likes having an NCO with a clipboard look in your gun safe and be an ass and tell you your shit is fucked up because you didn’t read the fucking manual.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        This is exactly my hobbyhorse re the 2A. The WelRegMil is far, far too inconvenient for NRA types to ever pay attention to or think about.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          The 2nd is about “the security of a free state” and it’s that government part that gets the ammosexuals all lathered up.

      • willi0000000

        the whole damn amendment fits neatly on a bumper sticker . . . and they have to shorten it? . . . that’s one bad case of ADD.

  • JustPixelz

    Why is Elmer Fudd on CNN? Wasn’t Trump doing something they could point a camera at?

    • Nounverb911

      He was busy tweeting out pictures of ¡Jeb! standing next to his grandfather’s Nazi flag.

    • Suttree

      I would prefer not to see that poor chicken’s face.

  • Jenny

    Eh this is the equivalent of clearing brush on a gentleman ranch. Everyone knows this guy is a pansy. The ones loving it are the other bloviating idiots who think hey this dumbass is just like me!

  • JMP
  • btwbfdimho

    Here’s the only Cruz I’d vote for and even let blow my head.
    http://www.geeksofdoom.com/GoD/img/2013/06/2013-06-03-penelope_cruz_header.jpg

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      I feel safer already!

    • Lot_49

      She’s so hawwt. If only she could act.

      Nah, I don’t care if she can act.

      • Zippy

        as long as she can convincingly act like she’s enjoying it…

      • SnarkTank

        She does a lot better when she’s acting in Spanish (viz. Volver and All About My Mother).

        • btwbfdimho

          Exactly, look at the Spanish movies, before se became a sellebrity.

      • btwbfdimho

        “Qué dijiste de Penelope? Si te agarramos te cortamos las rabadillas y las comemos fritas con chile verde, tortillas de atole y shots de Patrón”.
        http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2006_Bandidas/big/fhd006BNS_Penelope_Cruz_022.jpg

  • Tendernob

    Ted Cruz looks like he sleeps in the same bed with his mother.
    That is all.

    • btwbfdimho

      Indeedy!

  • Spotts1701

    Don’t worry, guys. The safety is…*checks*…okay, the safety is now on.

  • DoILookAmused2u ?

    Give him a break. The only real experience he had with guns until recently was watching folks with those parade rifles that don’t even have firing pins, so he thought this was ok.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Rafael is the most responsible gun owner in the country.

    Absolutely, positively responsible. Ayup.

  • cousin itt

    *BANG* … *THUD*

    Thanks, Obama.

  • Squirrel_t_robot

    Señor Cruz oozes liberty from the barrel of this gun what he can’t even handle properly.

  • Sheepshagger

    The shagger don’t want to defend the McCarthy melt but a broke double barrel is safe by definition.

  • BadKitty904

    Let’s see a video of him breaking that gun down and cleaning it. THEN I’ll be impressed…

  • dslindc

    Follow the rules? How dare you suggest such a thing! I will shut down the government if you make me follow rules!

    -Ted Cruz (R-Fuckwit)

  • TheBidenator

    We shouldn’t question whether or not Winnipeg Ted (R-Moosejaw) knows what he’s doing with a gun, he’s a Republican! As wingnuts never get tired of informing me Republicans don’t get all shooty to cheaply pander to their thin skulled, dim witted knuckle-dragging supporters who are so sure about the 2nd Amendment that they are utterly insecure and unsure of the 2nd Amendment. No it’s because they are REAL gun safety enthusiasts…

  • Lot_49

    This is my rifle, this is my gun.
    One is for fighting, one is for fapping while I fondle the other one.

    • zerosumgame0005

      so…Ted’s Thursday nights?

  • GunToting[Redacted]

    GodDAM I hate to do this but… For a break-open shotgun, this is acceptable behavior. It’s almost impossible to maintain safe muzzle control with a long gun (with a high-powered rifle, there really is no safe direction). Besides, if he’s bird hunting, the shot maybe travels 75 yards so the buildings in the distance are safe.

    STOP MAKING ME DEFEND TED FUCKING CRUZ. Now I need a shower/drink.

    • Squirrel_t_robot

      Yeah, I thought the same.

      But no fucking way am I giving this dude in brand spanking new blaze orange, yammering about how Hannity can moderate something any credit whatsoever.

      • zerosumgame0005

        I am thinking that out of fear for their own life some aide carefully set him up for that shot and made for damn sure it was unloaded and that Ted had no access to more shells before the cameras turned on

    • OddMan

      The rule I learned was always have the barrel of the shotgun pointing down when the gun is broken open like that.

    • Lot_49

      This is why small-arms marksmanship instructors in the military are the most overbearing, ultra-controlling, rule-obsessed people of any military person you could ever meet, even in an overbearing, ultra-controlling, rule-obsessed culture like the military. Can you imagine being on the firing line with fifty 19-year-olds from all social and economic backgrounds (mostly the difficult ones) who know nothing about weapons or weapons safety, and each of them armed with an automatic weapon? It’s just self-defense for them.

      • Thaumaturgist

        Yes.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        The military is all about regimentation, but you’re absolutely right, it doesn’t get more anal retentive than it does on a firing line. This shit is serious, and it’s treated seriously. Do not joke on the firing line. Your ass will be grass and the range NCO will be the lawn mower, and a ridden lawn mower to boot.

    • Zippy

      sorry, the barrel stays down, no matter what- if for no other reason than to give others the peace of mind, since they may not be able to see that the action is broken or that it’s unloaded.

      • wyclif

        Sorry not sorry Zippy, you’re done in this thread. Cruz was holding a break-action shotgun broken open. The fact that your little pea brain can’t comprehend that it’s completely safe and a non-issue really does tell me everything I need to know about you, as you flail around trying to make it into a horrific crime. It’s not working. Go back to your safe space and STFU.

        • Zippy

          oh goody, another illiterate knuckle dragger fancies himself relevant- like I give a fuck about you or your idiotic opinions. Go bleat somewhere else, little sheep. Some teatard babbling about me being wrong means zero, shitstain.It’s been explained to you jackasses about a thousand times why the fact that the action was broken doesn’t mean that it’s poor form when in a huge group of people like this, ESPECIALLY when you’re doing a photo op to show your gun humper bonafides like Cruz was trying to do. But you tards are all far too stupid to understand complex thoughts, so you all continue to babble like the morons that you are. How about you run back to your little circle jerk and fling some more feces at each other and pretend that any of you have anything the least bit worthwhile to contribute to society. You’re dismissed, dolt…

          • wyclif

            Break action field carry, wide open, is not unsafe, and nothing you say changes that at all. You sound absurd, and nobody who knows anything about firearms or the Second Amendment thinks you know what the hell you’re talking about. You’ve shown yourself in this thread to be nothing more than another mendacious shill, and an utter fucking moron on top of that. You are not intelligent enough to perceive that holding a break action gun like that is totally safe, and your attempt to gin up some kind of outrage fell flat. So take that bullshit and get the fuck out of here.

            Go back to your free speech gazebo, or publish another piece about transgender restrooms. See, the thing about discourse on the Internet is that it’s a great leveller. You should always stick to what you know if you want to be convincing. You broke that rule, because it’s obvious to everybody that you don’t know shit about firearms. I’d sooner look to the hatchet-faced harpies on The View for gun advice than I would you, that’s how completely hollow your advice is. Go back to your SJW shithole and don’t come out until you consider how ridiculous and comically entertaining you’ve been.

          • Zippy

            Bleat bleat little sheep. I love how a dullard like you uses the royal ‘we’ and thinks he speaks for everybody- another sign that you’re a feeble minded moron who has spent far too much time jerking off in the echo chamber. It’s so funny when the trained seals come waddling over from the sewer at Twitchy or the home of perpetual diaper rash at Dead Breitbart and start barking on command, all while patting themselves on the back about how smart they are as they wait for their masters to throw them another fish, ROFL. C’mon, tell me about what “real Americans” think- that one always cracks me up. What’s really funny is you clowns don’t even realize how damned dumb you are. First off, Jackass, this is my home. I post here all the time, unlike you morons who all came running over here to breathlessly babble about shit you don’t understand and prove to the world that none of you have the IQ of a potted plant. Second, the author did make a point, you’re just too fucking stupid to understand it, because you clowns lack the ability to understand nuance or anything more complex than the grunting and belching that passes for critical thinking amongst you. The rest of also tried to explain it to you- over and over, but it would be easier to teach a garden slug advanced algebra. Third, you dolts don’t even realize that all your feces flinging is driving up the Google analytic numbers for the website. Ca-ching, teatard, keep babbling- you’re making the owners money with each insipid post.

          • wyclif

            I don’t care even a little bit what some sexually confused libtard thinks about firearms. The fact that you do not know that Cruz is carrying the gun safely makes you an object of extreme ridicule, period. You don’t know shit about guns, and neither does Kalili Joy. The fact that you feel the need to defend Kalili Joy’s utter ignorance of even the most basic aspects of gun safety means that you are an absurd shill—a little onesie-wearing, weepy, childish popinjay with no ability to reason or comprehend what’s going on at all. The author lied in order to score the lowest of political points, but you’re too busy smoking Nick Denton’s cock to see that. You are the reason for yellow journalism—as long as there are hordes of single-digit IQ amoebas like you populating sites like this, there’s no need for you to think or comprehend, you simply repeat the lame-ass little talking points of your master, Nick Denton. The prospect of you reproducing is a direct danger to the future of western civilisation. We laugh at you! Sniggering and giggling all over Twitter about how dumb you morons are:

            https://twitter.com/charlescwcooke/status/662252659164975104

            And your line about “Google Analytics” is more total bullshit. The important factors that the Google PageRank algorithm uses to rank a webpage is based on keyword usage, site speed, number of inbound links, and quality of those inbound links. A Disqus comment thread has nothing to do with that. I’m merely heaping abuse on your idiocy in order to create an unbroken thread of contempt for you and your leftist bedwetting, because most people who visit this page aren’t going to scroll down, and all they’ll see is your psychotic anti-gun hysteria, which serves my purposes quite nicely.

          • Zippy

            BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Little dumbshit still doesn’t get it. Thanks for playing, dipshit. You have now proven that you’re even too stupid to stay away and not contribute to the traffic numbers- and you even brought some pretty pictures to prove, umm, errr, that you’re not the only fucking idiot on the internet? What’s your point, Sparky, that there are lots of you idiots foaming at the mouth and going full blown mental? LOLOLOLOLOL, geez you sure showed me… “A thread of contempt” ROFL you sure are full of yourself, dolt. Why, it’s a monument to… nothing, other than me making fun of your dumb ass over and over again and you being too fucking stupid to stop taking the abuse. You betcha people are laughing- at you idiot wingnuts losing your shit over a blog post.

          • wyclif

            “Gray’s little diatribe would be entertaining if it were not entirely predicated upon a shocking ignorance of the subject matter. There are few things so unintentionally funny as an ignorant liberal posturing upon self-righteousness when they are so demonstrably wrong.”

            http://politistick.com/liberal-journalists-try-to-school-ted-cruz-on-gun-safety-they-fail-miserably/

          • Zippy

            Well how bout that? You found another fucking idiot on the internet! Good boy, now go fetch me another one. What other tricks can you do? Your training is coming along quite well, pretty soon I might even have you house broken…

          • wyclif

            He’s got a rather astute observation there, actually. Knowing *absolutely nothing* about firearms didn’t stop K-Joy from repeating inaccurate info, it’s par for the course at Wonkette. I laugh at you and your absurd bloviations.

          • Frank Booth

            Wow, Zippy. Do you always get this worked up? Or just when your faggot fucking boyfriend pummels your rectum with his engorged schlong? BWAJAJAJA is probably the sound you make while biting your pillow.

          • Zippy

            No one wants to hear about your homoerotic fantasies, pal. Get a Grindr account…

          • Frank Booth

            Wait…I was just trying to speak in the lingo of you goddamned Millenials.

          • Zippy

            No, you thought you were at CPAC and trolling for rent boys- it always slips out with you closet cases

          • billy d

            boy, you are a terrible person

          • Zippy

            I will forever treasure that considered opinion, coming from someone random butthurt wingnut on the Internet, ROFL

    • DahBoner

      Sorry. What you said violates even the low bar of NRA safety rules. See Rule #1.
      http://training.nra.org/nra-gun-safety-rules.aspx

    • mardam422

      You mean, like, pointing it down? Just sayin’.

    • aureolaborealis

      Ahem, I feel unclean taking this position, and it in no way lessens the fact that Ted Cruz is a colossal, throbbing, syphilitic asshole, but:

      if he was holding it in the more classic/traditional/comfortable/”safe” way to hold a break-barrel shotgun, that is, with the barrel forward and down, it would be pointing at or near the person he’s talking to, which would be a far greater party foul, and we’d all be losing our minds about that.

    • This BS was slammed down when first Gizmodo, then TPM, and now Wonkette jumps on the OUTRAGE train a day later. The gun is “broke” and the barrels are empty; it’s physically impossible for him to “shoot” anything. The four rules–I believe they are called “O’Connor Rules”–the autherette cites DO NOT APPLY

      • jmk

        You just had to throw in the gendered insult, didn’t you?

        • Should I have said “authorcurious”?

          • jmk

            No. You should have not said anything at all.

          • Have I micro-aggressed in your safe space, cupcake?

          • jmk

            No, but your stupidity lowers the tone around here and you are generating a rather unpleasant smell.

            Your little friends on Dead Breitbart’s Home For Free-Floating Rage Monkeys might think you’re hilarious, but you’re not really ready for the big snark leagues.

          • wyclif

            You actually haven’t proven a damned thing. You’ve tried over and over again, and failed, to prove that Cruz was doing anything unsafe here. Your idiocy world normally pollute a blog, but this is Wonkette, so everybody knows the low quality and low intelligence of the shills that defend anything their Dear Leader posts. Lap it up, troll.

          • jmk

            LOL For someone who claimed to avoid people like me as much as possible, you sure are focusing your lonely little brain cell on me. What’s wrong, cupcake? Feeling all alone because Mom is still not back from work to bring you Pizza Rolls?

            Your utter lack of self-awareness is hilarious, though.

          • wyclif

            “Focusing” on you? Nah—this is like shooting fish in a barrel for me. Exposing you creeps for what you really are is my stock in trade.

          • Cupcake? I own modems older than you…

          • jmk

            And you know that how, dipshit?

          • Because “dipshit” has been dated via ALA types; proving my point… and you smell funny.

          • jmk

            Ummm… no. Just… no.

            The amount of wrong you have consistently posted in this thread would sink a fucking ship.

          • Aww… you probably believe that “private” thing with the pixelated sunglasses kept me from rooting your Disqus account!

          • jmk

            Are you threatening to hack me, cupcake?

            Or is it once again time to break out your har-de-har-har go-to joke about having modems older than…whatthefuckever?

          • wyclif

            I doubt he’d have to hack you. I reckon your password is “12345.”

            Or perhaps it’s simply “goo goo, ga ga.”

          • jmk

            What part of IT professional did you not understand, little boy?

          • wyclif

            You’re probably also a ninja. Sorry, but when you tout yourself in a Tumblr thread as an “IT professional”, all I see is a sad beta in a fedora.

          • jmk

            We’ve been through that movie before, cupcake, earlier in the thread, when you pulled the same shit with “you’re probably on Seal Team Six hurr durr.” It wasn’t good then, and now it’s even staler.

            Now…I don’t “tout” myself. I write technical documentation for software. That, by definition, makes me an IT professional. (*Swing and a miss for wyclif! Strike one!*)

            Secondly, genius, I don’t have a Tumblr. I don’t know about you, but I’m commenting on Disqus…and as to the rest of your lame-ass attempt at an insult, you wouldn’t know this, since you a) know nothing about me, and b) you’re an asshole, but I’ve only ever worn one fedora in my life, and that was during a high school production of Play It Again, Sam, when I tried on the Humphrey Bogart character’s hat. (*wyclif swings for the fences and fans it! Strike two!!*)

            Hmmm… how else can you fail? Oh… yeah… I’m also by definition not a beta, dickwad – bet you can’t guess why! But thanks – it sure has been fun watching you flail around searching for something you could rub your dick about…and failing miserably! (*Strike three!! He’s OUT!!*)

            Gee… would you like to be wrong about anything else or will you be content with having already been wrong about every fucking thing you’ve said?

            Don’t bother to answer. We’re done.

            Here, at the conclusion of our not-brief-enough and thoroughly tedious interaction, I’d just like to say that the world lost one of its great assholes when your teeth grew in.

            Buhbye.

          • wyclif

            “I’ve only ever worn one fedora in my life, and that was during a high school production of Play It Again, Sam, when I tried on the Humphrey Bogart character’s hat.”

            LOL. I knew I’d hit a nerve with “fedora.” Keep digging. I’m making the popcorn.

            Oh, I know. Not only are you on Seal Team Six, but you’re a contractor for the CIA as well.

            This is not a good look for you, JMK: http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/684058-tips-fedora

          • jmk

            Sooooo… keep fucking that fedora-wearing chicken, asshole. It just gets funnier knowing that you still don’t know why that shot went sooooo wide. Thanks for the laugh!

          • wyclif

            Keep tipping the fedora, JMK. Your argumentation and weightiness is just about the same as the fedora banging out your brand of commentary from his Mum’s basement.

          • jmk

            Again… soooooo wide of the fucking mark, and still as clueless as ever as to why!!! Seriously – you are comedy gold!

          • Do you have a problem reading English? I DID NOT “threaten” anything.

          • jmk

            No, cupcake, as a professional writer and editor, I do not have a problem reading English…that’s how I was able to read your vague and baseless claim, and how I know what a question is. You claimed to be able to access my Disqus account, which is, as you observe, private. My question merely sought further information about your methods.

          • wyclif

            Poor JMK! Getting owned all over again!

            What a weepy, obnoxious popinjay you are.

          • jmk

            Quote where I was “weepy.” Go on… you haven’t supplied any of the other quotes I’ve requested from you….but go ahead. Quote where I was “weepy.”

          • wyclif

            You sound weepy, like a butthurt little troll.

          • jmk

            So… you have nothing but your weak-ass assertions, then?

            I thought so.

          • wyclif

            Feel the burn, little beta fedora.

          • jmk

            It’s just hilarious that you can’t figure out why neither of those terms possibly apply to me.

            And it’s even funnier that you think that your sad attempts to deflect attention from the fact that you’ve got nothing but hot air could possibly ever work.

          • wyclif

            The term “fedora” doesn’t apply to you? From Urban Dictionary:

            “The fedora is a trademark of the socially inept beta male. He is attempting to distance himself from pop culture with the distinct style of past fashion. But he captures none of the suave, and only comes off looking like an oblivious, pompous fool.”

            That’s you in spades, JMK. Take a look in the mirror, you gaseous buffon.

          • jmk

            Apparently, I need to spell this out for you, since you missed every fucking clue I gave you… but that is NOT me “in spades,” sugarplum. I’m not socially inept and I don’t wear a fedora…but the real reason I’m not a “beta male” as you claim is that I’m a chick, you fucking asshole. Do you see now why I’ve been laughing at you ever since you thought you scored big time by dissing my (non-existent) masculinity?

            Now fuck the fuck off and never contact me again, wanker.

          • wyclif

            You’re a female fedora.

          • jmk

            Derp. It’s all you have.

          • wyclif

            I think it’s pretty clear from this thread that it’s not all I have. You’ve been owned. Not a little. A lot.

          • jmk

            Derp. It’s all you have.

          • wyclif

            I think it’s pretty clear from this thread that it’s not all I have. You’ve been owned. Not a little. A lot.

          • jmk

            Derp. It’s all you have.

          • wyclif

            Making “derp” sounds again, princess?

          • jmk

            To quote a friend:
            “At the end of the day, what is telling is the amount of butthurt being shown from the gun nut crowd – not the responsible gun people, the actual gun nuts. A liberal author who writes snarky satire about Republicans (and does it well) writes thousands of articles mocking the fuck out of Republicans, and the one article that sends people over the edge is one where she suggests a person running for president should set a better example when it comes to firearm safety. This is what pisses you people off. You guys really are fucking nuts.”

          • wyclif

            That works both ways, princess. The amount of butthurt being displayed in this thread by libtards and proglodytes when they were shown to be blatantly lying about gun safety is the real eye-opener. Wave after wave of ridicule, all over the Internet, for people just like you who are too retarded to understand the concept of rifle shoulder carry. And when you defended all these blatant lies about it, trying to score little combox points, you got your ass handed to you promptly. The fact that you continue to double down on this insipid nonsense is what pisses people off. You’ve got no virtue and no honesty. You don’t look at anything from a position that doesn’t confirm your preconceived narratives. An intelligent person would look at that image of Cruz and say, “hey, I don’t like Cruz, I’m not a Republican, and I despise his politics. But he’s not actually doing anything dangerous there.” And IN FACT, that’s *exactly* what a lot of people on the left that I do respect said in the thread above.

            But not you! Noooooo! You’re just a simpering shill and a deranged retard on the short bus who thinks that people can’t see through your partisan stupidity. That’s what pisses gun owners off, princess. You have gun derangement syndrome. Instead of admitting your hatred for legal gun ownership, and the people who have a legal, Second Amendment right to own a gun and have never hurt anybody with one, you want to demonise an entire class of innocent people. That’s why we have utter contempt for cunts like you. Take your partisan douchebaggery and have a nice, cold glass of STFU.

          • jmk

            Quote me where I indicated “hatred for legal gun ownership,” little pustule. Go on…quote me.

          • wyclif

            If you didn’t hate legal gun ownership, princess, then why would you embarrass yourself spending this much time trying and failing to prove that someone who legally owns one and properly uses it without harming anyone is a danger to society?

          • jmk

            Quote me or GTFO.

          • wyclif

            You don’t make the rules here, princess. I don’t have to quote you. I only have to point to the OP and ridicule it.

          • jmk

            You made a claim – many claims – about me. Quote me or GTFO.

          • wyclif

            You forgot the part where I pointed out that you don’t make the rules around here. And anyway, I’ve already quoted the most important thing that needed to be refuted—the K-Joy/TPM blather posing as “gun safety.” That’ll do just fine.

          • jmk

            So…. you have nothing.

            That means GTFO. Now.

          • wyclif

            No, it means that I don’t play by your rules, princess. The jig is up with you.

          • jmk

            Every post you’ve made has been full of lies. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            Projecting onto me doesn’t help your case at all. I haven’t lied about a thing. On the contrary, you’ve used this thread to lie about a public figure, and made serious accusations about him that are demonstrably false, and have been proven false by myself and others. You’ve repeatedly and unrelentingly foamed at the mouth about Cruz mishandling a firearm, but worse, you’ve accused him of actually being a *danger* to others by his holding a rifle in proper field carry. When called out on it, you waved your hands around and made irrelevant claims about how you’re related to a police officer, as if that had anything whatsoever to do with the fact that you spouted lies about all this.

            Like I said above, you’ve been called. And the jig is up with you. You’re a despicable little lying troll, and everybody needs to know about it.

          • jmk

            You are intellectually dishonest and every post you’ve made has been full of lies..Get out.

          • wyclif

            I just quoted you and I’m not going to do it again. Anybody who’s been reading this thread can see what a completely unethical liar you are. You’ve been owned. Over and over and over again. We laugh at you and your little troll friends, including Wonkette, and there isn’t a thing you can do about it.

            And remember what I said about the last word? I repeat, you’re not getting it, ever. I can do this into the next century.

            If you think I’m microaggressing you, little SJW princess, then STFU and stop displaying your ignorance.

          • jmk

            You haven’t once quoted me, you lying sack of shit. You’re a liar. GTFO. Take your lies back to 4 chan where you can tell them about the bad girl who scared you.

          • wyclif

            I quoted you. You asked for it and now you got it. So GTFO with that “you haven’t quoted me” bullshit.

          • jmk

            Misrepresenting my words isn’t quoting me, shitheel. It’s lying.

          • wyclif

            I quoted you directly. You can’t escape that, you malicious cunt.

          • jmk

            Misrepresenting someone’s words isn’t quoting them. You’d know that if you had a shred of honesty or truth in you, liar.

          • wyclif

            Nope. Directly quoting your words is something you’re not going to be able to escape, especially since you begged for it.

            You’re gonna eat that, not me.

          • wyclif

            I misrepresented nothing, princess. I quoted you directly. You can’t evade that any more than you can evade the fact that Cruz was handling a rifle safely. You’re an utter moron and a mental derelict.

          • jmk

            The comment you quoted pointed out that no matter how safe Ted thought the gun was, he was not DEMONSTRATING attention to gun safety rules. If you don’t understand the implications, that’s your problem, not mine. You misrepresented what I said. The reason you chose that comment to quote was specifically because you thought you could get away with misrepresenting what I said because you’re a lying sack of shit.

          • wyclif

            Cruz was demonstrating proper field carry of a rifle, with the breech open and the rifle broken, but you’re here in this thread screeching about “sloppiness kills!” and saying that he wasn’t “demonstrating” gun safety.

            Fuck you. Fuck off. You have proven once again that you’re an absolute pathetic troll.

          • jmk

            I’m on a site I frequent – you’re the visitor here. You’re the one who has repeatedly stepped on your own tiny little dick by lying. You’re the one who has been stalking me and refusing to just accept that you are wrong, wrong, wrong. That makes you the troll.

            Take your lies elsewhere.

          • wyclif

            No, troll. You don’t have any special privileges here. We’re both visitors here. Your baseless little lies don’t win just because this filthy blog is a place that you enjoy. In fact, if that’s your definition of “stalking”, then you’d be just as guilty of stalking me since you keep coming back to my comments.

            Responding to a Disqus comment isn’t “stalking”, you nit. That’s just you attempting another dishonest gambit. Stop being so thirsty.

          • jmk

            If you don’t like this “filthy blog,” the answer is obvious – go away.

            You infest my notifications with your lies. I will not allow you to post unansweed lies about me. That’s all there is to it.

            Want the last word? Stop lying. Admit you were wrong and that’ll be the end of it.

          • wyclif

            If you don’t like notifications, stop interacting. Stop replying with your lies. I’ve already told you I’m NOT going to allow you to get the last word, and I have the youth and the energy to outlast you. You wanna take this into the next decade? Go ahead, make my day.

          • jmk

            Stop lying about me and I won’t have to keep correcting you. It’s as simple as that. Just stop lying. That’s all you have to do. I doubt you can, though, just as I have no doubt that you get off on this…not only do you lack the kind of honesty that should keep you from lying, but it’s also crystal clear that you’re compensating for some… shortcoming of your own by trying to “win” here, you sad, empty little shit.

            Maybe you should go stand next to a fire hydrant and challenge any dog that comes along to a real pissing contest…because doing this on line just makes you look pathetic.

          • wyclif

            You are an utter troll and living in a fantasy world. You’ve continuously lied about gun safety in this thread, as well as besmirching someone who did absolutely nothing improper or unsafe.

            That makes you the liar. Stop lying and examine your conscience, child.

          • jmk

            What personal comments did I make about Teddy boy? Quote them.

            What lies did I tell about gun safety? Quote them – and make sure that what you quote is not something that recognized experts in gun safety have ALSO said.

            You can’t do either – because this is just more lies from you. Your childish lies are just so pathetic.

          • wyclif

            I already quoted your lies repeatedly to prove my point; I’m not going to bother doing it again. You’ve repeatedly said Cruz was “swinging” around the gun unsafely, and was putting others in danger. Lies, all of it.

          • jmk
          • wyclif

            Tiny people in the distance. Boy, you sure proved me wrong. Not.

          • jmk

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a926c49ae6b8021fc52f8a4301701837838a1abde6a2c0c768cdc043082223d2.png

            http://homestudy.ihea.com/hsafety/04fieldcarry.htm

            The way I’ve got my gun on my shoulder here, if you were 300 yards away and looked over here and looked at me, you would know instantly that my gun was open, wouldn’t you?…we want people at a distance to be able to look at us and tell not only that we’re thinking about safety, but that our guns are open, safe, and empty ….

          • wyclif

            Which I posted before you did to prove my point. Holding the gun correctly in shoulder carry, right here. Just like Cruz.

            You’ve been owned.

          • jmk

            Thanks for demonstrating your inability to read OR your utter dishonesty. You posted the picture… you left out “It is not a good carry if others are behind you.”

          • wyclif

            ….which was not part of the photo at all. Nice try. But that’s not working. Point is, and always has been, that Cruz was holding the gun in completely safe field carry. Nothing you’ve said here changes that.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            Nobody was directly behind Cruz. Nobody was behind him in line with the barrel. You’ve failed. You can’t do anything here. You can’t land any blows, and you can’t refute anything here. All you’ve done is twist in the wind and lie about Cruz. Despicable and partisan. Nothing more.

          • jmk

            Nothing you say has any basis and you’ve been proved to be an ignorant liar again and again.
            Stop lying and go away… or if you must keep lying, do it elsewhere. You bore me.

          • wyclif

            If I bore you, take a hike. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Of course, I don’t believe you’re bored at all. If you were, you wouldn’t be coming back over and over again to get your ass handed to you. You’re probably some kind of mentally ill masochist.

          • jmk

            Seriously. You need mental health help. You’re very ill.

          • wyclif

            Have you tried getting help yet? I think it would do you a world of good.

          • jmk

            You really do need mental health care. You’re very ill.

          • wyclif

            Did you get help yet? You can probably google a legit mental health professional. I think you need one rather badly.

          • jmk

            Your responses are not healthy or normal. You display signs of serious mental illness. Please seek treatment.

          • wyclif

            Did you get a good psychiatrist or other mental health professional yet? I strongly suggest you google one. You are profoundly mentally ill. You need help. Your continued complaints that you are being “stalked” while at the same time returning here to spew illogical and illiterate garbage are indicative of deep-seated mental issues.

          • jmk

            Your inability to stop lying and your refusal to walk away from this thread are indications that you have serious mental health issues.

          • wyclif

            Well, I’m not walking away. I already told you that, and I’m as good as my word. It’s determination and nothing more. It’s also meant to teach you a lesson, so you’ll think twice before trying to score cheap little political points by lying about gun safety.

          • jmk

            I’ve told you the one simple thing you need to do to get me to stop responding – but you insist that you’d rather lie than be honest. That’s not sane. Get help.

          • wyclif

            No deal. I already told you what the two options are. I suggest you take one of them. I even gave you a choice.

          • wyclif

            NO DEAL. None! Get lost. That’s the option. That’s the deal. Stop coming back here. Then you’ll get relief. You should also see your doctor, because you are completely crazy and desperate. Only someone with serious mental issues would double down on ridiculous nonsense like you’ve done here, lying about people you don’t know, and attacking someone and accusing them of endangering people just because you can score points that conform with your preconceived political views. You libtards really amaze me. When somebody serious comes along and refutes you, all you can do it cry. Well, it won’t work. Back off and stop coming back here. That’s you’re best bet at this point.

          • jmk

            You haven’t yet been able to back up any of your claims about me with any evidence…because you can’t…because the things you say about me are false.

            It’s interesting that you have tacitly admitted that you’ve been lying about me, though.

            Just stop and you’ll get what you want – I’ll stop responding. Just stop lying.

          • wyclif

            In fact, I’ve backed it up again and again. You can’t just invalidate that by hand-waving. That is totally not going to work. You’ve lied over and over again about Cruz here, and you’ve issued no apology or retraction. Instead you keep coming back here and doubling down. So this is what we’ve got. Better buckle your chinstrap, cupcake.

          • jmk

            That you can’t quote me shows you’re lying…and you know you’re lying, and yet you refuse to stop.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            Stop lying about Cruz. I don’t need to quote you because your comments are visible, anyone can read them. Stop making yourself look ridiculous. It’s too late for that, but it’s not too late for you to apologize.

          • jmk

            I haven’t lied, and you can’t come up with a single quote as evidence that I have, so – as usual – you try to get out of it by blustering and attacking.

            Your dishonesty is just sad.

          • wyclif

            You’ve lied constantly and maliciously about gun safety right here in this thread. You are an inherently dishonest, deranged, and sick woman. Get help.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person. You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • jmk

            So…you’ve got nothing.

          • wyclif

            Get mental health care immediately.

          • wyclif

            I’ve quoted you over and over again. Everybody reading this thread knows it. They’re laughing at you! Chortling, smirking, snickering at you! You’re a moron. A dolt. A nit. An utter clown. You don’t know anything at all about firearms if you think that what Cruz was doing there is unsafe, and anybody who knows anything at all about firearms knows this. You’ve beclowned yourself. You may has well have pooped your panties, that’s how badly you’ve symbolically soiled yourself. You have no credibility. Neither does Wonkette. You’re all a bunch of laughable clowns who don’t know shit. So step off. Get lost. Scram.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person. You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • wyclif

            No deal. Get lost.

          • jmk

            So you choose to lie and reject the idea of being honest. You’re ill.

          • wyclif

            Nope. I’m not debating you. You’re not my peer. You’re just some troll on the internet.

          • wyclif

            I’ve repeatedly backed it up. You’ve got nothing; you’re holding an empty bag. Get help immediately. Stop lying about Cruz and firearms.

          • wyclif

            You don’t make the rules here, cupcake. I made you an honest offer: stop coming back here and polluting this thread with your lies, and it’s over. But not before. You either get off this thread or Wonkette deletes it. That’s the deal. If you don’t accept that deal, I’m camping out on this thread.

          • wyclif

            I’ve got an inability to walk away from this thread? No, cupcake. That’s you. You thought you could get away with maliciously lying about people and trolling this thread, and myself and others provided the pushback. But you couldn’t hang, and now you’ve been owned. So you’re getting EXACTLY what you deserve. You’re going to have to step off or else this is going to go long. Very, very long.

          • wyclif

            Your actions and lies are indicative of those of a pathological liar. I suspect you’re probably mentally ill. You need help. You shouldn’t be on the internet.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            Stop lying about Cruz and I’ll stop calling you out on it. But I’m not going away. Noooooooo….not even a little bit. Just try me. Keep thinking you can repeat your know-nothingness about guns, Ms. Cop Daughter-in-law. I’m not buying it for a second. You are a disgusting, lying twat.

          • jmk

            Quote me. Go on… for the 90424th time… you make a claim about me, then fucking quote me.

            You CAN’T. So you rant and froth at the mouth and wave your tiny little dick around like everyone should be scared and impressed.

            Quote me or GTFO.

          • wyclif

            Can’t? I just did, you blubbering cunt. Now STFU.

          • jmk

            You misrepresented what you quoted. You are a lying sack of shit. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            I didn’t misrepresent a thing, princess. It’s all there for anyone to see.

            It’s like I’ve said over and over, but you’re too dumb to understand it. You’ve been owned. Repeatedly, unassailably owned. You’re done.

          • jmk

            Misrepresenting my words isn’t quoting me, asswipe. It’s lying. You’re a liar. GTFO.,

          • wyclif

            Quoting you is what you asked for, and it’s what you got. Maybe next time you’ll think twice before demanding that I quote you.

            But I doubt it.

          • jmk

            The words you quoted didn’t say what you said they said. You’re a liar.

          • wyclif

            Actually, they did. You are an absolutely idiotic tool of the lowest order if you use the phrase “Quote me!” and don’t understand what it means, just as you don’t understand what gun safety means.

          • wyclif

            The words said *exactly* what you meant them to, and I merely quoted your own words back at you. Don’t twist it because that’s totally not going to work.

          • jmk

            You have misrepresented what I’ve said. I’ve explained AT LENGTH what my issue with Cruz’s handling was, and you’ve ignored that and made hysterical and baseless claims.

          • wyclif

            You’ve repeatedly misrepresented Cruz’s proper field carry as “unsafe” an now you’re going around saying “sloppiness kils!”

            We laugh at you, you ridiculous burbling cunt.

          • jmk

            It’s not a question of “and now…” I’ve been saying that from the beginning of this thread, 20+ days ago. It’s been the major point I’ve been making for three weeks, frequently using the word “sloppy” so you couldn’t miss the point. It’s the point my stepfather made, using the word “sloppy.” It’s the central idea of everything I’ve posted. It’s the point underlying every comment I’ve made on the actual photo and video. I can see how you would miss it.

            You really are a lying little twerp.

          • wyclif

            There’s nothing “sloppy” about it. Your “central idea” is an utter sham. Cruz was holding the gun in proper field carry. Stop lying.

          • jmk

            There are people behind him. His carry is sloppy at best. Sloppiness is dangerous. Real experts know that, and I’ve been saying it all along. Try that shit on a shooting range and you’ll be expelled.

          • wyclif

            I watched the video. And you missed the context. After the 1:00 mark, where he starts talking about controlling the muzzle, it’s clearly being discussed in the context of people being nearby.

            But people weren’t within that distance of Cruz in the video. They were too far away from him to be anywhere close to being struck by the muzzle. And the entire *point* of the video is how to carry a broken, field carry rifle with the breech open, which is *exactly* what Cruz was doing.

            So, you prolix douchenozzle, you’ve failed again. Cruz is doing exactly what the video is advocating. He’s not close enough to anyone for muzzle to touch anyone, and he wasn’t “swinging” it like you’re desperately claiming to score cheap little points.

          • jmk

            You are a liar – the people behind Cruz are, at best 20 yards away.

            And although you’ve used “prolix douchenozzle” several times, I suspect you don’t know what “prolix” means. “Douchenozzle,” I’m sure you understand, as you see one in the mirror when you’re posing in the bathroom.

            Cruz is not “doing exactly what the video is advocating.” He is holding it exactly as the man in the video described as “the one thing that we don’t want to do.”

            Peddle your lies elsewhere.

          • wyclif

            20 yards away is easily enough for it to not be an issue. So once again, you’ve been caught out in an obvious lie. Perhaps I should explain “prolix douchenozzle” to you, since your vocabulary is not very, shall we say, advanced. It’s just another way of pointing out that you are a tedious fuckwit.

          • jmk

            “it’s important that you understand the ettiquette of how to properly carry your shotgun. The way I’ve got my gun on my shoulder here, if you were 300 yards away and looked over here and looked at me, you would know instantly that my gun was open, wouldn’t you?…we want people at a distance to be able to look at us and tell not only that we’re thinking about safety, but that our guns are open, safe, and empty….The one thing that we don’t want to do is put it over our shoulders and have the barrel sticking out like this…always have control of your muzzles, know where they’re pointing…so that people at distance can tell not only are you thinking about safety, you’re practicing safety…but when you go out there, carry it right, but remember, firearm safety depends on you.”

            So.. it’s not just about not clunking people on the head.

            That makes you a liar AGAIN.

          • wyclif

            Even more lies. There was absolutely nothing that Cruz did here that was dangerous, and the video you posted agrees with Cruz, not you. Cruz was holding the gun in completely proper and safe field carry.

            There is absolutely nothing whatsoever that you can post here, little troll, that changes this. You’ve had your ass handed to you. Man up and bow out. Because, you know, I’m not. I’m getting the last word here, remember?

          • jmk

            “It’s important that you understand the etiquette of how to properly carry your shotgun. The way I’ve got my gun on my shoulder here, if you were 300 yards away and looked over here and looked at me, you would know instantly that my gun was open, wouldn’t you?…we want people at a distance to be able to look at us and tell not only that we’re thinking about safety, but that our guns are open, safe, and empty ….The one thing that we don’t want to do is put it over our shoulders and have the barrel sticking out like this…always have control of your muzzles, know where they’re pointing…so that people at distance can tell not only are you thinking about safety, you’re practicing safety …but when you go out there, carry it right, but remember, firearm safety depends on you.”

          • wyclif

            We’ve already been down this road, cupcake. And you’re not going to win. Get it? Not. Not. Not. You can repeat that paragraph as many times as you like. Go ahead and copy-paste it a million times for all I care. It doesn’t say what you claim it does. Cruz didn’t violate any principle of gun safety, not even that guy’s, because nobody was near him when he had the gun shouldered.

            So, you’ve failed to prove anything at all. You are a hilarious buffoon, and your shallow attempts to tag people who actually know about guns as dangerous rings completely hollow.

          • wyclif

            You’ve lied over and over about this. The video doesn’t say what you claim it does, since Cruz is nowhere near anybody and never in danger of hitting anyone with the muzzle of the gun. So you fail.

          • jmk
          • wyclif

            So what? The gun is empty and broken open, and held in safe field carry. You don’t seem to get this at all. It’s because you don’t know jack shit about guns. You’re just some bedwetting leftist crybaby trying to make something out of absolutely nothing. Nobody who knows anything about firearms is impressed. In fact, we’re laughing at your baboon-like level of reasoning.

          • jmk

            “The way I’ve got my gun on my shoulder here, if you were 300 yards away and looked over here and looked at me, you would know instantly that my gun was open, wouldn’t you?…we want people at a distance to be able to look at us and tell not only that we’re thinking about safety, but that our guns are open, safe, and empty ….”

            http://homestudy.ihea.com/hsafety/04fieldcarry.htm

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a926c49ae6b8021fc52f8a4301701837838a1abde6a2c0c768cdc043082223d2.png

          • wyclif

            So what? That dude isn’t the authority on guns anyway. And what he says only proves that Cruz was holding the gun the right way. Do keep up. You’re falling behind badly, and losing.

          • jmk

            No True Scotsman, now?

          • wyclif

            Random dude on YouTube gunsplains. Big whoop. It’s a diversion. Fact is, Cruz was safely carrying the gun. You know it. You just can’t admit it.

          • wyclif

            That’s actually not the “no true Scotsman” fallacy. It’s simply pointing out that some guy in a YT video isn’t the authority on gun safety.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            So what? Repeatedly quoting this only proves that I was right and you’re wrong about Cruz. It vindicates Cruz against your own fuckwittery.

          • jmk

            “It is not a good carry if others are behind you.”

          • wyclif

            Which, of course, was uttered only by some guy on YouTube. Like I said, big whoop.

          • jmk

            It was attached to a photo YOU posted to support your false claim… you can’t even keep your lies straight anymore.

          • wyclif

            I posted the photo, not your stupid, incorrect, and absurd commentary. And the YouTube video was an entirely different thing. Don’t lie and conflate the two.

          • jmk

            Seriously, the amount of lying and self-deception you practice is not normal. Seek treatment. You’re very ill.

          • wyclif

            You display an extreme amount of self-delusion and pathological lying. That can’t be healthy.

          • jmk

            Your inability to face reality and your blatant projection indicate that you are very ill, mentally. Please seek treatment.

          • wyclif

            Continuous delusional denial of reality is not healthy. Please consult a doctor immediately.

          • jmk

            Your responses are not appropriate or rational and indicate that you are suffering from a serious mental illness. Please seek treatment.

          • wyclif

            Have you contacted a mental health professional yet?

          • jmk

            Get help. You are ill.

          • wyclif

            You didn’t answer my question. I asked YOU if you have received mental health treatment. Don’t twist it around.

          • jmk

            I’ve told you that all you have to do to get me to stop responding is to stop lying about me. Once you do that, you can have your cheap little last word, and call it your sad little victory.

            That you refuse to stop lying, even to accomplish something you claim to want, demonstrates that you are not rational or sane. You need mental healthcare.

          • wyclif

            No deal. Get lost or man up. Those are the only two options. Stop boo-hooing in this thread about somebody who’s smarter than you teaching you a lesson. That would have been completely unnecessary if you hadn’t been so arrogant in your utter ignorance. Stop lying about people, stop attacking them. That is the best way for you.

          • jmk

            You cannot back anything you say about me with any evidence…you are posting lies about me…and rather than be an honest person, you’ve chosen to continue to lie. That’s not healthy. Get help.

          • wyclif

            In fact, I’ve backed it up again and again. I’ve repeatedly shown that you have lied about Cruz and about firearms. Instead of shutting your massive piehole and doing the wise thing—which is to refrain from holding forth on subjects you know nothing about—you kept it up, and now here we are. So what’s happened here is your fault. The solution is to stop doubling down. When you stop doing that, the problem is solved. But until you do, I’m going to be here. Count on it.

          • jmk

            You’ve backed absolutely nothing up – you quoted one thing I’ve said, entirely out of context.
            I’ve told you no lies – and yet you just keep lying and lying about me.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person. You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person.

          • wyclif

            Stop lying about Ted Cruz and get immediate help for your mental delusions.

          • wyclif

            No deal. Get lost. Step off or man up.

          • wyclif

            You’re not judge and jury, cupcake. You don’t make the rules around here, remember? I’ve continuously shown that you’ve lied your ass off about Cruz. Stop doing it. Step off and don’t come back here again.

          • jmk

            Says the guy who thinks he gets to be judge and jury.

            So… one rule for you and another for anyone else? That’s evidence of unbalanced thinking…you need help.

          • wyclif

            Have you received mental health care yet? Time is of the essence. Right now you’re simply deranged and leaving spittle-flecked delusions on Disqus, tomorrow you could very well wind up in a straitjacket and in a white, windowless van.

          • wyclif

            I’ve repeatedly backed it up, proving that Cruz was handling the gun safely while you maintained he wasn’t. That’s absurd. You’re a joke. We laugh at you. You are a troll. You need mental help. My advice is for you to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            Stop lying about Ted Cruz and gun safety. Stop lying about Cruz mishandling a gun and “swinging it around unsafely.” And stop coming back here. When you do that, it’s over. But not before. I’m in this for the long haul. You are either going to go away or this thread will be nuked from orbit. That’s the deal. You brought all this on yourself by doubling down on your lies instead and engaging in massive trollery. Trolls like you need to be taught an expensive lesson. If I have to do this all day, I will.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person.

          • wyclif

            Stop projecting your mental health issues onto others who have advised you to get help.

          • wyclif

            You are deeply mentally ill, woman. Get help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            “It’s not a good carry.” DUH. The point is what is a SAFE carry, not a “good” carry. And again, this doesn’t prove what you claim it does. Cruz was carrying the gun safely, cupcake. Nobody was even close to Cruz when he was carrying the gun broken and with the breech open. Any gun owner reading this conversation knows who completely hollow your opinions are on this subject. You’re a laughingstock. But that’s not going to keep from further embarrassing yourself, is it?

          • jmk

            Seriously, dude. Seek treatment. You’re very ill.

          • wyclif

            Have the voices inside your head told you this? Don’t project on to me, cupcake. There’s nothing wrong with my mind. After all, I’m the one teaching you about the English language.

          • jmk

            Seriously. Seek treatment. You’re quite ill.

          • wyclif

            Perhaps you should listen to those voices inside your head. Let your fingers do the walking and look up a licensed psychiatrist. I think it would do you a world of good.

          • jmk

            You need mental health treatment. You are very ill.

          • wyclif

            I’m totally healthy. Nice try. Always the last resort of someone vile who can’t win an argument.

          • jmk

            Your behavior indicates that you are mentally quite unbalanced and need treatment. Please see a doctor.

          • wyclif

            Trying to project your own mental illness onto others is an obvious cry for help. Stop projecting and seek professional help.

          • wyclif

            You are desperately ill. Seek mental health professional help.

          • wyclif

            Have you sought mental health assistance yet? You can probably even get this while you’re on welfare.

          • jmk

            Your fantasies about other people aren’t real, cupcake. Please get help…you are clearly lost in delusion. That isn’t healthy.

          • wyclif

            It’s a shame you haven’t sought treatment yet. You are desperately in need of help from a mental health professional. You probably shouldn’t be commenting on Disqus, no matter how good masochism makes you feel.

          • wyclif

            You should know something else. By continuing to come back here, you’re only stoking the fire. At this point my determination to get the last word is powered by rocket fuel. Keep it up. Don’t apologize, don’t have even a shred of humility or say that you were wrong and you maligned innocent people by saying that they were endangering others. You’ve totally caused this scenario yourself. Stop blaming others for your problems and take some responsibility for your life.

            You either step off, or this is going to go very long. I am going to get the last word here. Not you. Me.

          • jmk

            Quote me saying any of the things you claim I’ve said. You can’t…because you are lying again. Once you stop doing that, I’ll stop needing to respond.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person. You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • wyclif

            You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • jmk

            So you can’t quote a thing and you’re just lying. Thanks for acknowledging that.

          • wyclif

            I’ve quoted it over and over again, I’m not doing it again. Anybody can scroll up and read it themselves. Stop lying about guns, Cruz, and safety. Stop maliciously attacking people over a subject that you know nothing at all about.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person. You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • jmk

            So… you have nothing…again.

          • wyclif

            You should seek the help of a mental health professional. Seriously, you are a deeply crazy person.

          • wyclif

            Like I’ve told you already, keep it up. I’ve got all the time and resources in the world to refute you. Stop lying about Cruz. Stop lying about firearms. Stop lying about gun safety. That’s the smart move for someone with your mental equipment.

          • wyclif

            You need to see a doctor badly.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            Prove it. You’ve got absolutely nothing. Nada. Zilch. Zip.

          • jmk

            You need help.

          • wyclif

            Have tried calling a mental health professional? It’s clear that you’re the one that needs it.

          • jmk

            You’re very ill. Please seek treatment.

          • wyclif

            Let me know when you’re checked into a proper mental hospital.

          • jmk

            Your projection and inability to respond appropriately indicates a serious degree of mental illness. Please consult a doctor. You are quite ill.

          • wyclif

            Let me know when you’ve checked in to your local mental hospital. Oh wait, they probably don’t have internet there. So don’t.

          • jmk

            Please seek help. These responses of yours aren’t rational or appropriate, and indicate a disconnection from reality that is troubling.

          • wyclif

            You think they’re not “rational or appropriate” only because you got whooped. But like I’ve told you numerous times, the way for you to get relief is to stop responding, because I am going to get the last word here. Perhaps you’ll think twice next time before doubling down on your own stupidity, and trying to debate people that are smarter than you are.

          • jmk

            You don’t seem to be able to put things together logically – I’ve laid it out for you several times. It’s easy – stop lying about me and I won’t need to respond to you.

            That you refuse to do so simply demonstrates your disconnection from reality and your fundamental dishonesty.

          • wyclif

            I’ve told you many, many times already what the options are here. You need to back off. Stop lying about people and attacking them. Get help.

            But I’m not going away until you stop coming back, or Wonkette deletes this thread. Those are the only two options. Count on it.

          • jmk

            I’ve not lied about or attacked Cruz, so your claim that I’ve done so is just another lie you’re telling about me. Stop lying about me and I’ll stop needing to correct you.

          • wyclif

            You’ve lied over and over again about Cruz, and I decided I wasn’t going to allow you to do it without pushback. Deal with it.

          • wyclif

            You’ve lied over and over again about Cruz handling the gun unsafely, then you said he was “swinging it around.” All lies. Utter, contemptible filth. Get mental health care immediately. You need it. Badly.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person.

          • wyclif

            You’ve lied over and over again.

          • wyclif

            No deal. Get lost or stop whining about how aggrieved you are. Because I’m getting the last word here. Do you get it. I’m getting the last word. Not you. Me. You are lying, irrational bitch, and you are going to learn the hard way to stop popping off about things you don’t know about, and stop lying about people you don’t know. Stop claiming that Cruz is “endangering” people when he’s holding a gun in safe field carry. Stop attacking gun owners. Stop your ridiculous burbling and get professional help.

          • jmk

            Where did I attack gun owners? Quote me, cupcake.

            It really is a sign of mental illness that you a) think that rejecting the idea that you should stop lying is rational, b) think you’ve got anything to teach me, and c) are in a position to make demands of me.

            Get help. You are seriously ill.

          • wyclif

            Remember what I said: either you get lost or Wonkette deletes this thread. No third option.

          • jmk

            So you can’t quote me… again.

          • wyclif

            It’s all in the thread above. Anybody can see it. I’m done quoting you. I’m done with your games. Either you step off or else this goes on.

          • wyclif

            I’m done quoting your filthy lies. You are a deeply mentally ill person. You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • jmk

            I have not posted lies, so you can’t possibly be “done posting” any from me…and you’ve quoted ONE sentence, which you managed to take out of context AND misrepresent, so your comment here is disconnected from reality, as usual.

          • wyclif

            Nope, you’re wrong. I’m done going over it again and again. I don’t need to prove something that I’ve already established over and over again. You don’t make the rules here, cupcake. You are a very sick individual. Get help.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person.

          • jmk

            So… you’re unable to. Again.

          • wyclif

            Seek professional help. You need it. Badly.

          • wyclif

            I’m done quoting you. I don’t need to make my case over and over again, I only have to do it once. I don’t suffer fools like you.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person.

          • jmk

            So you can’t quote me. As usual, your claim was just another lie.

          • wyclif

            Nope, I’m just done quoting you. I’ve already proven my case. No need prove it over and over again. Like I said, you step off or Wonkette nukes this thread. Those are your options.

          • wyclif

            You’ve repeatedly attacked gun owners who safely handle firearms. In the OP, Cruz is handling the gun in open carry. The breech is open and the gun is being safely carried, yet you lied about this and said that Cruz was putting people in danger. When that didn’t work, you claimed he was “swinging it around.” I’ve quoted you on this over and over again, and you haven’t retracted it. You doubled down on it. So you’re a liar.

          • wyclif

            You had your ass handed to you, that much is plain to anybody. I’ve told you repeatedly what the deal is. Either you take it, or else I’m going to be here in this thread for perpetuity. Stop lying about Cruz. Stop engaging in your foul lies about gun owners. Stop being a troll. And most of all, get professional help; you’re deeply and profoundly disturbed.

          • wyclif

            You need mental health treatment. Have you checked with your local hospital? You are a deeply disturbed woman who has obviously been listening to what the voices in your head tell you.

          • wyclif

            You are deeply and desperately mentally ill. Seek help.

          • wyclif

            Have you sought a mental health professional yet? I’m not going away, so remember: either you draw off or Wonkette deletes this thread. There is no “Door 3.”

          • jmk

            You really are ill. You need help. Seek treatment. You may become a danger to yourself or others. You are disconnected from rational thought.

          • wyclif

            Don’t try and twist it, cupcake. You’re the one who keeps coming back here. You are a deeply disturbed person. You’re probably bashing out these comments with your fat little fingers from your mother’s basement. Get help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You need mental health care desperately. Where is your husband?

          • wyclif

            You are a tremendously disturbed woman. Get help.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            Seriously, you are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            Stop lying. Nobody was even close to him.

          • wyclif

            I already defined “prolix” for you. You really ought to look words that are too big for you up in the dictionary before you try to use them. Get back to me after you’ve read the books.

            Cruz is nowhere near those people, so he’s carrying the rifle safely. You’re a liar.

          • jmk

            Where did you define “prolix,” cupcake? Quote yourself.

          • wyclif

            I said above it means you’re tedious. Here’s the Merriam-Webster definition. Do try to keep up: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prolix

          • jmk

            Incorrect. You can’t even read a definition. Unreal.

          • wyclif

            Go ahead and argue with Merriam-Webster. I’ll go make the popcorn.

          • jmk

            It does not mean “tedious,” nitwit. It means “tediously lengthy.”

            You’re tedious even when you post a single word… and some of your posts are both tedious AND prolix.

          • wyclif

            Ooooooooh! Is that what it means, professor! OOOOOHHHHHHH WOOOOW you are a genius! I bow at your enhanced understanding the English language!

          • jmk

            You should. You were misusing it throughout this thread, and clearly did not know what it meant.

          • wyclif

            Nope, you didn’t know what it meant when I used it. You probably still don’t know what it means. The fact that I introduced it, not you, is indicative of all that.

          • jmk

            Go away, liar.

          • wyclif

            Never.

          • jmk

            Why don’t you go play with a “rifle”?

          • wyclif

            The thought of you playing with any kind of gun should frighten reasonable people. You don’t know anything at all about gun safety. So stop holding forth on the subject. Simple.

          • jmk

            Seek treatment. You’re quite ill.

          • wyclif

            You need professional mental help.

          • jmk

            Unless you are six years old, this “I know you are but what am I?” nonsense is inappropriate and indicates that you have very serious mental health issues. Seek treatment.

          • wyclif

            Did you get professional mental health counselling yet?

          • jmk

            Your responses are neither healthy nor appropriate, and indicate that you are suffering from mental illness. There is help available for you – you just have to seek it out. Please do so.

          • wyclif

            Did you get professional mental health counselling yet? I strongly suggest that you do so.

          • jmk

            Please get help. You are ill and need treatment.

          • wyclif

            Did you see your shrink yet? I think your meds need to be upped. Has your thorazine prescription run out?

          • jmk

            Is that what you take?

          • wyclif

            It’s what you take, and apparently have run out of. Re-up your prescription immediately, cupcake. See your doctor.

          • wyclif

            Did you get your prescription refilled yet? You really need to do that. Get that taken care of. You need either medication or mental health care.

          • wyclif

            Did you get your Thorazine refill yet? You should.

          • wyclif

            Stop projecting your illness onto others who have asked you to seek treatment.

          • wyclif

            You need mental health care. I suggest you get it immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            See ya. Don’t come back.

          • jmk

            Seriously, seek treatment. You’re very ill.

          • wyclif

            Nope. You’re not getting the message here. If you’re feeling microaggressed, the solution is easy. Don’t come back. Bye.

          • jmk

            Your fantasy life isn’t normal. Seek treatment.

          • wyclif

            This isn’t fantasy, cupcake. If you don’t like it, there’s an easy solution. Maybe you’ll be able to figure it out eventually. I’ve been dropping loads of hints.

          • jmk

            You need mental heath treatment. Your level of delusion and childishness, and your blatant projection indicate some very serious illness.

          • wyclif

            You’re slowly beginning to discover, I think, how healthy and energetic I really am. Keep it up. I’ve got all the energy in the world.

          • jmk

            Yours is not a normal response to reality, and you should seek mental health treatment immediately.

          • wyclif

            Perhaps you ought to be seeking mental treatment instead of banging out enraged, illogical comments on Disqus.

          • jmk

            This “enraged” claim is of a piece with the rest of your lies – I’ve expressed none, so it’s all in your head. You need help.

          • wyclif

            Stop freaking out and go away. That’s the only way you’re going to get out of this. I’ve already called you out on your “IT professionalism” that isn’t—you can’t even get out of this thread. Some “IT professional” you are!

            I’ll tell you again—either get lost, or deal with it. I’m getting the last word. Not you. Me.

          • jmk

            I’ve done no ‘freaking out” and I’ve told you what you have to do to get me to stop responding – you just have to stop lying about me.

            That you refuse to be truthful says volumes about your degree of mental illness. You need professional help.

          • wyclif

            You’re still freaking out. You keep coming back here to do it. You need help desperately. I suggest seeking treatment from a qualified mental health professional.

          • wyclif

            Stop freaking out here. Go away. That’s your only option, short of Wonkette deleting this thread. Do you hear me? I’m going to be here, every day, unless you back down. It’s time you learned your lesson. And I’m going to teach you one.

          • jmk

            You need to stop lying about me, and then I’ll stop responding to you. It’s a stark choice – you stop lying and I’ll stop responding to you, because I won’t need to.

            This fantasy you have about me being emotional or freaking out over this is ludicrously off-base and entirely in your head, demonstrating a break with reality, and your apparent belief that you are in any position to teach me anything at all demonstrates the kind of grandiose thinking that is indicative of the “manic” phase of bipolar disorder. Get help.

          • wyclif

            I’m not going away. The deal is that you stop coming back to this thread or Wonkette deletes it. There is not “option three.” Stop freaking out and screeching about Cruz being a dangerous person, and mishandling firearms. It’s a total lie. You should be ashamed of yourself, and you should issue an apology to Cruz.

          • jmk

            Quote any “screeching” I’ve done… quote me saying that Cruz was a “dangerous person,” which is not the same as saying he was not handling a weapon safely…go on… quote me.

          • wyclif

            Stop lying. You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person.

          • wyclif

            Apologize now. Write a letter to Cruz and tell him you’re sorry about lying about him and accusing him of endangering people.

          • jmk

            I have not lied about Cruz, and the rest of your idiotic demand is just weird. Get help, you bizarre creep.

          • wyclif

            You’ve lied over and over again about Cruz and gun safety here. Anyone can scroll up and see it.

            Have you renewed your Thorazine prescription yet? It would probably help you with the voices inside your head.

          • wyclif

            Mark my words. I’m here for the duration. Either you step off or Wonkette nukes this thread. There is no third option. Count on it.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person. You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • wyclif

            No deal. The deal is this: stop lying about Cruz. Stop repeating these burbling, disgusting lies about gun safety and your accusations that somebody you don’t know was putting other people you don’t know in danger by mishandling a firearm. Drawing off yourself, or Wonkette killing this thread, is the only way out for you.

          • wyclif

            Stop freaking out and seek a mental health professional.

          • wyclif

            You’re a very disturbed woman. I would strongly suggest you seek mental health care.

          • jmk

            You can’t quote me saying anything “enraged” or “freaking out,” can you? Of course you can’t – you make grandiose claims and you’ve been wrong every time. Stop lying and I’ll stop needing to respond.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person.

          • wyclif

            It’s pretty obvious you’re freaking out, look at how you keep coming back here to double down. You are a deeply mentally ill person. You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • jmk

            I’m not freaking out, cupcake. I’m determined not to let some lying, deranged sack of shit lie about me without correcting the slimy lies you’re trying to get away with posting.

          • wyclif

            You’re obviously freaking out. What else could explain your deranged nonsense? If you don’t like me challenging your lies, don’t come back. See ya. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person. You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • jmk

            So… you’ve got nothing… as usual.

          • wyclif

            You need to see a doctor and get checked into a mental hospital before you harm yourself.

          • wyclif

            Of course you are. You’re enraged that someone smarter than you would rebut your nonsense. It’s written all over your commentary here.

          • wyclif

            You are desperately mentally ill. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            Have you sought a mental health professional yet? Please do.

          • jmk

            Please get the mental health care you so obviously need.

          • wyclif

            Have you received mental health care yet? Here you are, still commenting on Disqus, still trying in vain to dominate. It’s not going to work, you know. The only way out for you is to back off and get help.

          • wyclif

            You are desperately mentally ill. Apparently the only thing you respond to are the voices inside your head. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            Seriously, you are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            I missed nothing. You had no idea what the word meant. Which is why I had to teach you what it meant, and told you to go look it up. Stop lying. You’re not going to beat me on English. Or gun safety.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You should check a dictionary. Oh wait, you’ve never seen one before.

          • wyclif

            I quoted Merriam-Webster. More than once. It’s not my problem if you’re too dumb to know what a dictionary is and look up words you don’t understand.

          • jmk

            You “quoted” Merriam-Webster once – AFTER you’d been challenged, and AFTER you claimed to have previously defined the word.

            Time moves in one direction, cupcake.

          • wyclif

            Nope. I quoted it after you confirmed that you didn’t know what the word meant. I said it meant “tedious.” That’s one of the many meanings of the word. Try again, champ.

          • jmk

            You have no concept of the sequential nature of time.

          • wyclif

            You have no concept of truth or falsity.

          • wyclif

            You have no concept of truth.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You didn’t know what the word meant, which is why I had to define it for you. Try again.

          • jmk

            You bore me.

          • wyclif

            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

          • jmk

            No joke. Seek treatment. You’re very ill.

          • wyclif

            No joke here—I think you’re probably a desperate, overweight, lonely, and mentally deranged woman. You could use getting out of the house and getting off Disqus.

          • jmk

            You are very ill. Please seek treatment. Your mental health is seriously compromised.

          • wyclif

            I think it would be admirable if you sought treatment for yourself. That’s a great idea. Go for it.

          • jmk

            You need treatment. Please consult a doctor. You are not mentally healthy.

          • wyclif

            I’d actually have a tiny bit of respect for you if you tried to get help. You are deeply mentally ill. Please seek treatment immediately.

          • jmk

            Regardless of whether you just can’t stop lying or you really believe your own lies, you need treatment.

          • wyclif

            You desperately need the help of a mental health professional. Seek help.

          • jmk

            Rational adult human beings do not display the amount of projection you display, nor are they unable to distinguish between their fantasy lives and reality as you appear to be.

            Get professional help.

          • wyclif

            You are not the judge of what “rational human beings” do, in the same way that you’re not the judge of what gun safety is. You’re a know-nothing little schmuck, and you’re going to have to back down. I suggest you get serious medical help for your problems.

          • wyclif

            Like I told you before cupcake, but you can’t seem to understand, you are not the arbiter of rationality. In fact, you don’t seem to have a very good grip on what is rational at all. You need a doctor. I suggest you get one.

          • jmk

            Get help. You’re delusional.

          • wyclif

            Have you sought professional mental help yet?

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person.

          • wyclif

            Have you sought mental health assistance yet? If you’re on welfare, you can still get help.

          • wyclif

            Have you made an appointment with your mental health professional yet?

          • wyclif

            Stop lying about people you do not know. Seek mental health treatment.

          • jmk

            …said the guy who has lied about me repeatedly. Take your own advice and get help. You’re ill.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Stop lying and stop trolling.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person. You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person.

          • wyclif

            Stop lying about people you do not know. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a real sicko. Get help.

          • wyclif

            Have you sought mental health counselling yet?

          • jmk

            You really do need help. Every comment you make demonstrates your severe mental health issues.

          • wyclif

            Have you sought mental health treatment yet? You are a deeply disturbed person.

          • wyclif

            You are a desperately ill person. Your actions in this thread prove it. You need help. I suggest you get it instead of writing Disqus comments. You need to be checked into a mental health facility, pronto.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            I quoted it several times. And you still don’t understand what the word means. So go back and read it again. If you can.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            Liar, liar, pants on fire.

          • jmk

            Said the guy who has made claim after claim and never once backed any of them up with facts, quotes, or evidence. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            I just quoted you, SJW shill. You can’t deny it now. You asked for it and I served up additional ownage on your silly ass.

          • jmk

            You wouldn’t know this, since you have no integrity or honesty, but misrepresenting what someone else says isn’t actually the same as quoting them.

          • wyclif

            I quoted you directly without alteration, cupcake. Anybody who can read can go back up the thread and see what you wrote. You should know this. You probably don’t (because you’re mentally deranged and not very bright), but it’s all there for anyone to see.

          • jmk

            You put words in quotes and lied about them. That’s not the same as quoting.

          • wyclif

            LOL! I put your own words in quotes because you said “quote me!” So you’ve been owned.

          • jmk

            You’ve claimed that you quoted me “repeatedly” when you took one short comment and then claimed it was evidence of something I never said. You ignored everything I HAVE said to misrepresent what the only words you quoted – despite your “repeatedly” lie – actually meant.

            You’re a liar. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            I’ve quoted you multiple times in this thread, cupcake. Don’t try to weasel out of that, too.

          • jmk

            You quoted ONE sentence ONCE out of a thread encompassing dozens of comments of mine in which I made the point you tried to obscure.

            What you DID do repeatedly was to make claims about me…claims you utterly failed to back up with quotes or evidence when challenged.

            You really are a liar.

          • wyclif

            I quoted you more than once and you know it. It’s above in the thread. Anybody can see.

            Stop lying about this. But I forgot, your stepfather is a cop so I should just agree with everything you say, even when you’re obviously lying.

          • jmk

            Liar. Quoting one thing isn’t “quoting you more than once.”

          • wyclif

            Your English skills are as bad as your reasoning ability. “Quoting you more than once” is what *I* did, princess. I quoted you more than one time. It can be the same piece of text. Holy shit, you are stupid.

          • jmk

            Misrepresenting and mischaracterizing the same single sentence is not quoting me “repeatedly,” you liar.

          • wyclif

            Actually, according to English grammar, it is. And I don’t think you want to get into an English grammar contest with me any more than you’d want to get into a gun safety contest.

          • jmk

            If you mischaracterize what I’ve said, you are not quoting me.

            Grammar has nothing to do with it…and I don’t think you want to get into a “contest” about the rules of English grammar and usage with me. You’d lose. Badly.

          • wyclif

            Except it looks like I’m winning that. Go ahead. Get into a spelling or grammar contest with me. I dare you.

          • jmk

            I’m not challenging you to any contest. You’ll have to try to boost your fragile ego some other way.

            You’d lose, anyway – I write and edit documentation for a living.

          • wyclif

            You’re wise not to challenge me to a contest that you have no chance of winning. And if you did write documentation for a living, you wouldn’t have to worry about something like that. But just like your imaginary cop stepfather and your IT professionalism, I don’t believe you write anything, not for a second. Except for Disqus comments, of course!

          • wyclif

            Nope. I quoted you. Repeatedly. And I’d totally belly up to the grammar bar against you. I’d put all my chips on it, cupcake. You can’t even back up your own slanders and attacks on Cruz, how are you going to go up against me on the English language?

          • wyclif

            I’ve quoted that same sentence repeatedly, cupcake. Which, of course, is accurate to characterise as “repeatedly.” You’ve got nothing. Try again. Because I’m getting the last word.

          • jmk

            Is your dick so small that this is what you do to feel like a big man? Just wondering.

          • wyclif

            Is your vagina so large that it makes a giant sucking sound when you open your legs? You are a dumb cunt.

            I told you already you’re not getting the last word. Either you back off, or Wonkette deletes this thread. Those are the only two options. So either STFU or stop complaining that somebody is “stalking” you simply because they call you out on your lies and misrepresentations.

          • jmk

            24 days of you pulling your pud while lying about me just to keep the conversation going and make your ego happy?

            Yeah… I’d say you were stalking.

          • wyclif

            If anything, you’re stalking me, princess. You’re walking back into this thread over and over again. I think you’d better look up “stalking” in a dictionary. Oh wait, you probably don’t have one in your house. I can tell books aren’t something you’ve spent much time with.

          • wyclif

            Actually, it is. “Repeatedly” means more than once.

            I warned you that you wouldn’t win against me on the English front, just for the record.

          • wyclif

            Quoting you more than once actually is “quoting you more than once.” LOLOL.

          • wyclif

            Nope. You’re not, not, not getting the final word here. I am. The jig is completely up with you. You’ve lied and lied and lied your ass off here, and you haven’t proven a thing. You don’t know a damned thing about the proper use and of firearms or their safety, and you’ve been served.

          • jmk

            Every post you’ve made has been full of lies. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            You’ve posted here over and over again about how someone who was carrying a rifle safely is a danger to others. A lie. See the photo above, since you have reading comprehension issues.

          • jmk

            You are a liar – that is not what I have said. I have said repeatedly that even if he thought it was safe, it was up to Cruz to demonstrate more concern for the rules – the NRA’s OWN RULES – of gun safety.

            You are a liar. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            That’s exactly what you said, cupcake. That’s why I put it within quotes, and I went back and simply copy pasted your words from earlier in the thread. There’s a lot more stupid shit in this thread that you probably deleted, too. But that’s OK. I know what a total bullshit artist you are.

            Stop lying about guns and about people who use them properly and safely. I’m getting the last word here.

          • jmk

            Misrepresenting one comment isn’t quoting me, shitheel. It’s just you being a liar.

          • wyclif

            I misrepresented nothing. It’s all there for anyone to see.

            You lied over and over again, and now you’re upset because I called you out again. You’ve been owned once more. Funny how that works.

          • jmk

            You lied about what the words said. It’s the equivalent of quoting Abraham Lincoln and saying he was talking about space travel. It’s a lie, making you a liar.

          • wyclif

            I quoted you directly and without alteration, showing that you have no fucking idea what you’re talking about. You don’t know anything about guns, cupcake, and nobody reading this is buying it.

          • jmk

            You lied and misrepresented what my words meant. Cruz is not demonstrating attention to gun safety rules. If he sets himself up as a representative of gun owners, he has a responsibility to practice gun safety all the time because sloppiness kills. You are a liar.

          • wyclif

            “Sloppiness kills”, squeals JMK. What a ridiculous ass you are. Here you are again, like butter in sunlight. He’s carrying the gun safely, with the breech open in proper shoulder carry, and your attempt to try to attack him is “sloppiness kils.” Utter, total bullshit. You need to get a shovel and cover that up.

          • jmk

            So… you’re ignoring the video I posted from a recognized gun safety expert. You’re ignoring the rules of gun safety. You’re ignoring the point I’ve been making for three fucking weeks…all to get your rageboner going. How pathetic.

          • wyclif

            I watched the video, but it says exactly the opposite of what you claim it says. The guy says that the gun is safe when it’s empty and being held in shoulder carry. Which, of course, is EXACTLY what Cruz was doing.

            So you’ve lied again. And again and again. You are dishonourable, disreputable slag.

          • jmk

            I posted the transcript… I’ll do it again, since you’re incapable of being honest.

            “it’s important that you understand the ettiquette of how to properly carry your shotgun. the way I’ve got my gun on my shoulder here, if you were 300 yards away and looked over here and looked at me, you would know instantly that my gun was open, wouldn’t you?…we want people at a distance to be able to look at us and tell not only that we’re thinking about safety, but that our guns are open, safe, and empty….The one thing that we don’t want to do is put it over our shoulders and have the barrel sticking out like this…always have control of your muzzles, know where they’re pointing…so that people at distance can tell not only are you thinking about safety, you’re practicing safety…but when you go out there, carry it right, but remember, firearm safety depends on you.”

          • wyclif

            I watched the video. And you missed the context. After the 1:00 mark, where he starts talking about controlling the muzzle, it’s clearly being discussed in the context of people being nearby.

            But people weren’t within that distance of Cruz in the video. They were too far away from him to be anywhere close to being struck by the muzzle. And the entire *point* of the video is how to carry a broken, field carry rifle with the breech open, which is *exactly* what Cruz was doing.

            So, you prolix douchenozzle, you’ve failed again. Cruz is doing exactly what the video is advocating. He’s not close enough to anyone for muzzle to touch anyone, and he wasn’t “swinging” it like you’re desperately claiming to score cheap little points.

            You’re a thirsty, desperate slage and a liar.

          • wyclif

            There are images from state gun safety programmes all over the internet with examples of people safely carrying rifles just like Cruz is in the OP photo at the top of this thread.

            You’ve lied all over the place about Cruz. The jig is up with you.

          • jmk

            Your likeminded bullshit isn’t evidence. You’re a liar and a sack of shit. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! It’s absolutely evidence. I can point to evidence like this from state parks & rec and official state gun safety materials from all over the country. It directly contradicts your bullshit statements that there’s some mishandling or danger going on.

            There is nothing either improper or unsafe about the field carry of a rifle. Perhaps your “cop father-in-law” needs to sit you down and have a little chat about gun safety with you, since you don’t know shit about it.

          • jmk

            I quoted the NRA’s own rules. I can quote other rules that demonstrate that Teddy isn’t carrying his weapon safely. I can quote an actual expert who has personally confirmed that Teddy should be carrying that thing with greater attention to safety.

            You, of course, being a liar, ignored the NRA’s OWN RULES and dismissed my stepfather as imaginary rather than climb down and admit you were wrong. That’s intellectually dishonest and makes you a liar. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            The NRA’s rules don’t say what you claim they do. Any NRA member would call you out on this. Are you seriously trying to get anyone to believe that the NRA thinks that Cruz’s field carry in the OP is unsafe????

            BWAHAHAHAHAHA! You’re even more of a dumbass than I originally thought!

          • jmk

            Number 1 gun safety rule right from the NRA website:

            “1. ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
            This is the primary rule of gun safety. A safe direction means that the gun is pointed so that even if it were to go off it would not cause injury or damage. The key to this rule is to control where the muzzle or front end of the barrel is pointed at all times. Common sense dictates the safest direction, depending on different circumstances.”

            http://training.nra.org/nra-gun-safety-rules.aspx

            Another lie you’ve told.

          • wyclif

            LOL! Which he did. He had the gun held broken open, pointed safely, and in the usual safe field carry. Weak-ass gruel.

            Trying to twist the NRA’s safety standards into something they clearly don’t say is pathetic dishonesty.

          • jmk

            He was not in control of the muzzle. And again, if you’d actually understood my point all along, you’d know that my issue is that no matter how safe he thought the gun was, he has a responsibility to demonstrate that he’s following the rules. He’s not. He’s not in control of what the muzzle is pointing to and the people behind him can’t see the gun is broken. He’s sloppy – and sloppiness is what I’ve complained about.

          • wyclif

            “He wasn’t in control of the muzzle!” WTF are you talking about? The gun is totally in his control—all of it. He’s holding the empty, broken gun properly. I even attached a photo from a safety course to prove it. And you ignored that because you’re dishonest—the only reason you’re here is to show how thirsty you are to score a cheap political point at Cruz’s expense when he was doing *nothing* wrong with his rifle. The guy’s a trained sportsman and had taken gun safety classes, and I showed you where those courses and rules agree with Cruz—not you, shithead.

            So basically, you’re lying just to try and score but you can’t because it’s easy to see why you’re thirsty. You’ve been called out an owned.

            And I am getting the last word here. Not you. Me. Me, me, me.

          • jmk

            He’s swinging it around behind him, entirely unaware of where it’s pointing.
            As the expert you claimed didn’t exist explained in the video you’re studiously ignoring, that’s not good gun safety.
            Go the fuck away.

          • wyclif

            “Swinging it”? LOL. You are very thirsty and desperate to tag Cruz with anything you can after your other contentions have been put down by me. I proved you were lying about Cruz’s “sloppiness”, so now you’ve moved on to “swinging.”

            What a despicable, lying little cunt you are. Have a giant carafe of STFU.

          • jmk

            You haven’t put anything “down.” Here he is swinging it around, with people clearly behind him.

            https://youtu.be/vO8WqjFok0U?t=4

          • wyclif

            He’s not swinging it around, asshole. He’s turning to look at what’s around him. That’s not “swinging.” And even if it was, it sounds desperate of you when Cruz is holding the gun properly, broken, and with a visibly empty breech.

            You have failed. You have lied. You have been owned.

          • jmk

            He’s swinging it around while people are behind him. He is unaware of where it’s pointing. That is, by the NRA’s own rules, unsafe.

            Go peddle your lies elsewhere.

          • wyclif

            Nope, not swinging it around. Not endangering anybody at all. Handling the gun in a totally safe manner in proper field carry.

            Go pound sand, you lying, noxious gasbag.

          • jmk

            Swinging it around with people behind him. Unaware of where it’s pointing. The very definition of unsafe carry.

          • wyclif

            Not swinging it around. There was no swinging. That’s laughable, and you’re a ridiculous retard for trying to maintain it. This is why we ridicule you so much. You’re not very smart, and you don’t know shit about guns. Period.

          • jmk

            At :03, he swings it around while he’s talking to the reporters. It’s on his shoulder, he moves his body, the muzzle swings.

            Sorry you and your socks don’t like facts. Not surprised, but sorry.

          • wyclif

            But he’s nowhere near anybody. Those people aren’t within reach of him. So your criticism makes no sense at all. It’s a total lie. So try again. Because that isn’t gonna work. Not even a little bit.

          • jmk
          • wyclif

            Those people are TINY in the photo. Nowhere near him. Don’t make me laugh. You’ve failed. You’re a ridiculous shill. The muzzle of the gun is nowhere near these people. But thanks for pointing it out so well with the graphic. It makes you look even more ridiculous.

          • jmk

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a926c49ae6b8021fc52f8a4301701837838a1abde6a2c0c768cdc043082223d2.png

            “The way I’ve got my gun on my shoulder here, if you were 300 yards away and looked over here and looked at me, you would know instantly that my gun was open, wouldn’t you?…we want people at a distance to be able to look at us and tell not only that we’re thinking about safety, but that our guns are open, safe, and empty ….”

            http://homestudy.ihea.com/hsafety/04fieldcarry.htm

          • wyclif

            I posted that above, you utter moron.

          • jmk

            Yes you did… and you left out “It is not a good carry if others are behind you.”

            You lose.

          • wyclif

            That line is stupid. And as you already know, those “others” were nowhere near Cruz. You’re clearly just trying desperately to score cheap political points when the facts don’t support your absurd views.

          • wyclif

            …which was uttered by some rando on YouTube. Big whoop. Guy isn’t even NRA-qualified. And anyway, as I’ve said here before, he doesn’t say what you’re claiming. Nobody was close behind Cruz, so what he says about that doesn’t apply to Cruz.

            If you had a better education and more grey matter, you might understand this. But clearly you do not. You have lost this little game of yours. Badly.

          • jmk

            No, the source of “It is not a good carry if others are behind you” is the Texas Parks & Wildlife Department, the same organization YOU cited as an authority when you posted:

            “Here’s an image of a rifle, the same type of rifle that Cruz was using and the carried safely in exactly the same way Cruz did from a state government parks & wildlife department:

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f843c356c01d00815607a08c1e9a50d20c397e1fef8f867f14faefcb97f2c6a1.png

            So… which is it? Are they authorities or are they not?

          • wyclif

            Still doesn’t say what you claim it does. You can copy-paste this a billion times; it doesn’t say what you claim it does. I’ve already covered the necessary territory on this above. Anybody looking at Cruz would know the gun was safely being held. So attempts to claim he was doing something dangerous were malicious, evil lies on your part.

          • jmk

            Seriously, you need treatment. You’re very ill.

          • wyclif

            What’s that, you say? You need treatment? There’s lots of places where you can get that. But you know what? You’re not getting the last word here; I’ve told you that repeatedly and I meant every word of it.

          • jmk

            The level of childishness and delusion you display is not normal. Get help.

          • wyclif

            Have you gotten professional mental help yet? I think it would be good for you.

          • jmk

            Please get the mental health help you so obviously and desperately need.

          • wyclif

            You are unable to refute anything I’ve said. Nothing. You’re holding an empty bag. You should put it over your head.

          • jmk

            You really do need mental health help. You are quite ill.

          • wyclif

            Please seek professional mental health assistance immediately.

          • jmk

            Your illness is obvious and sad. Please seek treatment.

          • wyclif

            You need professional mental help. Please get it. Stop commenting on Disqus. It is actually harming you.

          • jmk

            All you need to do to get me to stop responding is to stop lying about me. That you refuse to be honest, even to accomplish something you claim to want, in addition to the vitriol you’ve ladled out in every comment you’ve posted, your insistence that your fantasy world is real, and your lack of organized thinking demonstrates that you are suffering from a very serious mental illness. Get help.

          • wyclif

            Stop lying about Cruz. Stop coming back here. Otherwise, it’s no deal. Simple. Easy for you to do. You could also end this by apologizing to Cruz for accusing him of putting people in danger when he clearly didn’t. Write a letter to his office, scan it, and post it here and only then will I begin to take you seriously. So far I haven’t seen a single thing from you indicating that you’re sorry about slandering people who haven’t done a thing to harm you, trying to ruin their good name and reputation, and attacking them for no reason. Do that, and I might be impressed. But until you get lost, expect pushback.

          • jmk

            The reality is that I’ve not lied once about Cruz. I said he was holding his gun in a way that several experts – who I cited – said was unsafe. That’s not a lie…it’s not an attack. It’s reality…it’s fact. I’ve done and said nothing about Cruz that would require an apology, nothing that could be characterized as an attack on him, nothing even close to “slandering” him.

            You, on the other hand, have lied about me, misrepresented my position and my words, projected your own inadequacies and mental illness onto me – for another round of lies from you – made up things that you then vilified me for – for yet more lies from you – and lied some more.

            You’ve set yourself up as some kind of “teacher” or “authority,” yet throughout this thread, you’ve made repeated misstatements and errors, you’ve made claims that were ignorant and false, and you’ve demonstrated no basis for any authority you claim. That added to your apparent belief that you’re some kind of protector of Senator Cruz, and you begin to look like you’re in the manic phase of bipolar disorder.

            When offered a way out of this tedious bullshit, because you are so invested in some childish idea that if you get the last word, you’ve “won,” you chose to continue lying – tacitly acknowledging that you’ve been lying all along, and refusing to stop.

            The things you’re doing are not rational and you display serious mental health issues. No joke… get treatment.

          • wyclif

            No, you have. You’ve lied over and over about Cruz, as anyone can see by scrolling up and reading your invective. It’s damning. You’re made yourself out to be a ridiculous shill and a contemptible troll by engaging in these tactics, and it just won’t do. The jig is up with you.

          • jmk

            Quote any “invective.” Quote a lie I told about Cruz. Quote anything that backs up anything you’ve said about me.

            You can’t …because all you do is lie.

          • wyclif

            Still trying to pour gasoline on a match, cupcake? How has that worked out for you so far?

            Stop lying. Get lost. Leave this thread now. Until you do, I’m going to be here every day.

          • jmk

            So you can’t quote a single thing to back up your claims.

            This lying on your part is deranged. You need mental healthcare.

          • wyclif

            Stop lying about Cruz, firearms, and gun safety. Get checked in to a mental hospital immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person. You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • jmk

            And you can’t quote anything. Thanks for the tacit acknowledgement.

            It goes so nicely with your earlier acknowledgement that you have been lying.

          • wyclif

            I’ve already quoted you over and over again. Not doing it again. I’m done with your insane burbling. Stop lying about Cruz and write him an apology.

          • wyclif

            You said Cruz was “swinging” the gun around. You said that Cruz was handling the gun “dangerously” and “unsafely.” All lies. You’re a lying liar, and a deeply disturbed person. Get help immediately. You can google a hospital, since you’re an “IT professional” (no proof of this, of course—another lie), or you can let your fingers do the walking and look up a mental health facility in the phonebook, which I’m guessing is more your speed.

          • wyclif

            You’ve lied over and over again about Cruz mishandling the gun and engaging in unsafe handling. That’s a total lie, and it’s been shown over and over again that it was a lie. That’s a fact. You need to step off. If you don’t, you’d better buckle your chinstrap, cupcake.

          • jmk

            You can’t quote a single lie I’ve posted. All I said was that Cruz’s handling of the gun didn’t demonstrate awareness of gun safety. I stand by that…and the experts I’ve cited agree.

            Your deranged and frantic assertions aren’t evidence that what I said is incorrect, much less “a lie,” no matter how hysterical you get.

          • wyclif

            I already told you I’m done quoting your filthy lies. I’ve done it all over the past two weeks. Not doing it again. Stop lying about firearms and popping off about stuff you don’t know anything about. That is the wise choice for you.

          • wyclif

            You’ve lied repeatedly about Cruz, saying he was handling a gun properly in field carry incorrectly and dangerously. That’s a lie. Stop lying and examine your conscience.

          • jmk

            The experts whose photo YOU first posted said it was not a good carry with people behind him – which you ignored and tried to cover up. Your obstinate refusal to accept that fact is evidence of your mental derangement.

          • wyclif

            Photos don’t speak, cupcake. Unless you’re hearing voices again. Which you very well might.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person. You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • wyclif

            Stop projecting your own mental illness onto others. Stop listening to the voices in your head. Get help.

          • wyclif

            You need to see a doctor. You are a real sicko with a profound mental illness.

          • wyclif

            Have you sought mental health help yet? Projecting your own problems onto others isn’t going to help you.

          • jmk

            I’ve previously told you that all you have to do is stop lying about me and I’ll go away. That you have rejected this course of action and have childishly insisted that you will keep lying and that you need to “win” by having the last word are indications of your severe mental health issues. It’s not normal for an adult to engage in the kind of “I’m rubber, you’re glue” thinking you demonstrate. You really do need help. Please get it.

          • wyclif

            No deal. The real deal is that either you’re going to stop commenting here in this thread or Wonkette is going to delete the thread. There is no “Door 3”. So if I’m microaggressing you, cupcake, your best bed is to shut up.

            And the fact that you keep coming back here to get owned, over and over again, is what displays deep-seated mental health issues and a profound streak of masochism. Do you enjoy getting owned when you pop off on subjects you have no knowledge of? Does that make you feel good? If it does, you have a problem. Seek treatment immediately.

          • wyclif

            I’ve previously told you that I’m not going away until you step off this thread. Do you get that? You’re going to step off, or else this thread is going to go very long. You should apologize to me, Cruz, and everybody else in this thread for lying about gun safety and saying that Cruz was “endangering” innocent people. You are a despicable troll, and I have nothing but utter contempt for you and your kind.

          • wyclif

            Have you sought a mental health professional yet?

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            Seriously, you are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            Which I posted. Thanks for proving the point for me once again.

          • wyclif

            Lies, total lies. Nobody is anywhere near Cruz. You can see that nobody is within reach of the muzzle.

            You know nothing about guns or gun safety. You’re a ridiculous clown, and everybody knows it.

          • jmk

            And again… “…we want people at a distance to be able to look at us and tell not only that we’re thinking about safety, but that our guns are open, safe, and empty…”

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1e80b6b22bdb16d71cad62e2e77b0ce8514aed6fdd4de4dda2548eab2f029fe7.png

          • wyclif

            “Visible” isn’t the standard, cupcake. And the dude in that video isn’t the judge and jury of what gun safety is. Fact: Cruz wasn’t within striking distance of those people. You can even see it in the photos above that you posted yourself.

            So you’re busted. This is laughable trollery on your part, and it’s totally ineffective. You’ve lied and lied and lied your ass off about this, and I’ve called you out on it. You’ve been served.

          • wyclif

            Those people aren’t anywhere within range of the muzzle. So he’s actually abiding by the NRA’s rules.

            Stop lying about people and attacking them, claiming they are endangering others.

          • wyclif

            You don’t make the rules here, princess. The claim that you’re a weak-ass little troll isn’t something you said, it’s something I said.

          • jmk

            Quote or GTFO.

          • wyclif

            Quote? Here’s what you said 21 days ago:

            “That AnoinTed’s gun is empty THIS TIME doesn’t excuse him from practicing gun safety EVERY TIME.”

            So not only did you lie about Cruz doing something dangerous (not practicing GUN SAFETY), you went caps lock like some kind of fucking retard on top of that.

            Here’s an image of a rifle, the same type of rifle that Cruz was using and the carried safely in exactly the same way Cruz did from a state government parks & wildlife department: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f843c356c01d00815607a08c1e9a50d20c397e1fef8f867f14faefcb97f2c6a1.png

            You’ve gone around opening repeating these total lies about somebody who’s never done a thing to hurt you. You’re a disgusting filthy pig, and you need to shut your nasty piehole. A total lie. Promulgated by you and a few other know-nothing little trolls on this blog. The jig is up with you. You’ve got nothing.

          • jmk

            So you didn’t understand the words you quoted? Good for you, you idiotic piece of shit. Misrepresenting the meaning of the words you quoted is the same as lying. You are a liar. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            That’s weak gruel. Nobody misunderstood you. They saw right through you and your SJW bullshit.

          • jmk

            Here’s something I ACTUALLY said…

            “For ACTUAL review…all I have ever said about AnoinTed’s stupidity was that I was taught to respect the rules of gun safety – not to “parrot” them – two of which are that you ALWAYS treat a weapon as if it’s loaded, and don’t EVER point it at anything you don’t want to shoot. My stepfather would have flipped out if I’d carried a shotgun that way, not because it was inherently dangerous to do so, but because it was sloppy to do so…and sloppiness about safety kills. Since he handled and used firearms as part of his job, I’ll take his word for it over that of a puerile ammosexual like yourself…and he agrees with Kaili that Cruz had a responsibility to demonstrate more concern for safety.”

            Not once did I say anything remotely “SJW” to you, nor have I said the things you’ve claimed I’ve said. You’re a liar who misrepresents my comments and makes baseless claims you can’t back up with quotes. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            You’ve repeated attacked Cruz in this thread as engaging in dangerous, unsafe behaviour with a gun.

            Which, of course, is completely untrue.

            You should apologise and retract all your idiotic little statements and lies in this thread. That’s what you’d do if you had any conscience, any honour, or any ethical standards whatsoever.

            But see, I don’t expect that from you. I’ve seen what you’ve done here, and at this point you’ve doubled down so hard, and dug your hole so deep, that I only expect you to continue lying about how Cruz is a danger to people and supporting those who repeat this lie.

            SJW morons, all of you. Examine your conscience.

          • jmk

            You haven’t backed any of your claims about me up. You’re a liar. A scummy fucking liar.

          • wyclif

            You’ve had your ass handed to you. You walked right out on a limb and demanded that you be quoted, so I did. Don’t even try to give me that bullshit about not backing it up. You said “quote me” and I did, and the quote makes you look like what you are—somebody who doesn’t have the slightest clue about gun safety and has no business holding forth on it.

            You’re just some dumbass SJW shill talking out of your ass. STFU.

          • jmk

            You quoted me ONCE, despite claiming to have done so “repeatedly.” That makes you a liar.

            You quoted one comment and claimed that it meant something it didn’t mean. That makes you a liar.

            You’ve entirely ignored the ACTUAL point I’ve made over and over again, going so far as to ignore when I quoted myself to demonstrate how you were misrepresenting me. That makes me a liar.

            You’ve made claims about me from the start, not one of which has been true. That makes you a liar.

            You’re a liar.

          • wyclif

            I’ve quoted you repeatedly in this thread, more than once. Go back and count on your fingers, retard.

          • jmk

            What a liar you are. You quoted one thing I said. Once.

            I repeatedly challenged you to quote me. You did so ONCE, choosing a comment that wasn’t even addressed to you.

            What a pathetic little liar you are.

          • wyclif

            I’ve quoted it several time, in fact. Go count again on your fat fingers. You lied about guns, you lied about Cruz, and you lied about me.

            You’re an all around Queen of Lies.

          • wyclif

            Ah, the “imaginary cop stepfather” ruse again. I suspect your “expert” is imaginary, just like the other voices in your confused little brain.

            You just walked into another lead glove, princess. After demanding that I quote you, I go ahead and copy your own words, and here you are denying them just like I thought you would. Because, of course, you’re a repugnant lying little bitch.

          • jmk

            You are a liar and a sack of wind. You lie about me and dismiss anything that doesn’t suit your narrative. You’re a liar. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            You routinely make stuff up without any proof. There’s no proof anywhere that your stepfather is a cop, you’re asking me to take your word for it when you’ve lied about all kinds of shit in this thread. So no, I’m not buying what you’re selling, princess. Try again. Or better yet, STFU.

          • jmk

            Asking you to take my word that my stepfather – whose qualifications I’ve listed, and who I’ve quoted directly – isn’t imaginary? What a sad, sad little person you are. Did you expect me to provide you with his name and SSN?

            GTFO.

          • wyclif

            So basically, you’ve got no proof. That’s the most honest thing you’ve implied in this entire thread.

          • jmk

            What proof do you think you should get?

            What a disingenuous, dishonest piece of shit you are.

          • wyclif

            You’ve got no proof. All you’ve got are assertions. Assertions aren’t proof, you know. Oh, you don’t know, because you’re a moron.

          • jmk

            You really are a lying buffoon. You are claiming that because I won’t hand over some kind of “proof” of identity, then my stepfather must be “imaginary”?

            That is a powerfully stupid and deranged thing to say…and it’s a lie, because your intellectual dishonesty is so profound that you wouldn’t accept any evidence that contradicts your lies.

          • wyclif

            You just made that up, didn’t you? You made up the story of the law enforcement stepfather, and you’re unwilling to back it up with proof.

            No wonder nobody believes anything you say.

          • jmk

            What proof, liar? Giving you his name and badge number? He’s a retired cop…certified sharpshooter, BT, RT, DRE, EVOC instructor, etc. Get over it.

          • wyclif

            That’s no proof. You just made all that shit up, just like you made up all that bullshit about you being an “IT professional” while you can’t stop me from running you out on this thread. You can’t even delete the thread! Some professional you are, liar.

          • jmk

            What are you, like 12 years old?

            What’s next in your tantrum? Holding your breath?

          • wyclif

            You’ve got nothing, princess. Nada. Zilch. Zip. You’ve got no proof of anything. If you had, you’d have proven yourself already.

          • jmk

            I’ve apparently got a pre-teen stalker looking to boost his own view of his fragile masculinity by insisting on having the last word.

            All you need to do is to stop lying about me…and then you can rub your dick against your “last word” all you want. Just stop posting lies that I need to challenge and correct.

          • wyclif

            You can try that “stalking” line as much as you want, bitch, but it’s not gonna happen. Not when you’re coming back to this thread over and over again, mistakenly thinking you’re gonna get the last word.

          • wyclif

            Making shit up again, princess?

          • wyclif

            That’s not proof! You made all that shit up. None of that is even remotely verifiable. I’m calling your bluff.

          • jmk
          • wyclif

            Duh! That was already posted at the top of this thread. So what?

          • jmk

            So you didn’t watch the clip, then? He tells you exactly why you’re wrong.

            I’m not surprised you’re trying to ignore what he says, since your behavior so far indicates that you ignore anything that shows you to be wrong because you’re dishonest and a liar.

          • wyclif

            Oh, I watched the clip alright. But you’re an idiot, because it agrees with me, not you. He says that when the rifle is broken and empty it’s safe. He even carries it open in the video. But you’re such a stupid fucking cunt you can’t even comprehend that.

          • jmk

            You didn’t watch the clip if that’s the message you took from it. He warns you NOT to carry it over your shoulder when broken.

            But of course you’d lie about watching it….because you’re a liar.

          • wyclif

            I did watch the clip. He doesn’t way what you claim. Don’t make me pull the transcript, bitch, because I will.

            Stop lying about guns. Stop holding forth on firearm safety. Don’t set yourself up as the oracle of things you clearly don’t understand.

          • jmk

            Here’s the transcript, Liar:

            “it’s important that you understand the ettiquette of how to properly carry your shotgun. the way I’ve got my gun on my shoulder here if you were 300 yards away and looked over here and looked at me, you would know instantly that my gun was open, wouldn’t you?…we want people at a distance to be able to look at us and tell not only that we’re thinking about safety, but that our guns are open, safe, and empty….The one thing that we don’t want to do is put it over our shoulders and have the barrel sticking out like this…always have control of your muzzles, know where they’re pointing…so that people at distance can tell not only are you thinking about safety, you’re practicing safety…but when you go out there, carry it right, but remember, firearm safety depends on you.”

          • wyclif

            I watched the video. And you missed the context. After the 1:00 mark, where he starts talking about controlling the muzzle, it’s clearly being discussed in the context of people being nearby.

            But people weren’t within that distance of Cruz in the video. They were too far away from him to be anywhere close to being struck by the muzzle. And the entire *point* of the video is how to carry a broken, field carry rifle with the breech open, which is *exactly* what Cruz was doing.

            So, you prolix douchenozzle, you’ve failed again. Cruz is doing exactly what the video is advocating. He’s not close enough to anyone for muzzle to touch anyone, and he wasn’t “swinging” it like you’re desperately claiming to score cheap little points.

            You’re a thirsty, desperate slage and a liar.

          • wyclif

            He wasn’t anywhere near anybody, so this claim is baseless. You’ve lied about this over and over again.

          • wyclif

            Actually, I think it’s you who didn’t understand what was going to happen here. I copied your own words. I didn’t alter a thing.

            You’ve been owned. Again. And again, and again. You’re a reprehensible idiot who doesn’t know the first thing about gun safety.

          • jmk

            Nope. You lied. You ignored everything I said. You’re a liar. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            You lied about your own quote. You’re the liar, princess. You’ve done it over and over again in this thread for everybody to see. But keep digging!

          • wyclif

            I quoted you repeatedly and even attached sources. So get the fuck out of there with that “quote me” bullshit.

          • jmk

            You never once quoted me. You’re a fucking liar. Quotes or GTFO.

          • wyclif

            Of course I quoted you. I simply copy-pasted it directly from this thread.

          • jmk

            When you misrepresent the quote you use, that’s a kind of lying. You have no integrity and you’re a liar. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            You’ve lied over and over again about Cruz and gun safety. You have no conscience, no soul, no honour. You’re a lying liar and support the liars who lie about gun safety.

            I have utter contempt for you and your kind, and so does anybody with an ounce of integrity.

          • wyclif

            I didn’t interpret anything, I simply copied your quote and caught you out lying again.

            You’ve been owned. Not a little. A lot.

          • jmk

            You left out the paragraph before the bit you quoted… because you can’t read it and claim the things you’ve been claiming about me…

            “His [my stepfather’s] point – my point, KAILI’S point, and the point of dozens of comments you’ve spent your time ignoring – is that it doesn’t matter if you THINK the gun is safe…it doesn’t matter if you KNOW the gun is safe. You don’t violate gun safety rules EVER because they are a matter of habituation. You practice them because you need to practice them… because they need to be second nature. You practice them even when you don’t think you have to because you could be wrong, you could have bad luck, you could make a mistake.

            That AnoinTed’s gun is empty THIS TIME doesn’t excuse him from practicing gun safety EVERY TIME.”

            That makes you a liar.

          • wyclif

            You quoted the crucial part that I included, princess. You said this. Again, quoted from you above:

            “You don’t violate gun safety rules EVER because they are a matter of habituation.”

            But that’s a blatant lie. Cruz didn’t “violate” gun safety rules because he was carrying the rifle in proper field carry.

            So you’re the one who’s lying. You’re a shit-faced, despicable cunt. You’ve lied about Cruz in this thread here and elsewhere. You have no honour and no ethics. You’re a lying piece of SJW shit.

          • jmk

            I’ve posted expert opinions that indicates that he was NOT carrying the gun safely since he was not aware of what it was pointing at and there were people behind him, and your response has been to lie and claim that’s fine despite the fact that experts contradict you again and again, and use every insult your tiny mind can think of to deflect attention from the fact that you are a lying sack of sheepshit.

          • wyclif

            The video you posted doesn’t say that at all. And Cruz was, in fact, aware of how he was holding the gun, as was obvious from the video.

            Wonkette is a blog that is a lot like a whorehouse at low tide. When the tide goes out, filthy slags like you come out of the woodwork selling your wares. Go back from whence you came. And most of all, STFU.

          • jmk

            You’re a liar. Here’s exactly what the video says:

            “…it’s important that you understand the etiquette of how to properly carry your shotgun. The way I’ve got my gun on my shoulder here (muzzle pointing down), if you were 300 yards away and looked over here and looked at me, you would know instantly that my gun was open, wouldn’t you?…We want people at a distance to be able to look at us and tell not only that we’re thinking about safety, but that our guns are open, safe, and empty….The one thing that we don’t want to do is put it over our shoulders and have the barrel sticking out like this (carries it like a common Ted Cruz)…always have control of your muzzles, know where they’re pointing…so that people at distance can tell not only are you thinking about safety, you’re practicing safety…but when you go out there, carry it right, but remember, firearm safety depends on you.”

            So again, I’ve clearly demonstrated that you are a scummy little liar.

            And BTW, cupcake… internal evidence indicates that you’re either a lame American poser or a sad British person getting your pathetic little rageboner on by freaking out about something that involves you not at all.

            Either way, my message is the same – go the fuck away, you sad piece of lying shit.

          • wyclif

            There’s nothing in what this guy says that Cruz violated, you idiot. According to the rules, Cruz was holding the gun correctly: the gun was visibly broken and open. Anyone could see that. And you inserted stuff in parenthesis that the guy doesn’t say. You’re trying to interpret his words in a favourable manner by changing them. He never mentions Cruz. He never says Cruz was holding the gun incorrectly. Because if he did, he’d be wrong.

            You haven’t “demonstrated” anything at all, and you’re only digging your own hole deeper.

            And BTW…you have no fucking clue whatsoever where I’m from, nor will you ever find out. I’m clearly more intelligent than you, that much is certain.

            My best advice to you is to draw off. The damage has been done, and I’m not going away. There are only two choices for you here:

            1. Draw off immediately.

            2. Wonkette removes this thread.

            Those are the only two options. I am getting the last word here, and there isn’t a single thing you can do about it.

          • jmk

            You said “There’s nothing in what this guy says that Cruz violated.”

            That’s a lie. He says quite clearly “The one thing that we don’t want to do is put it over our shoulders and have the barrel sticking out like this…always have control of your muzzles, know where they’re pointing…so that people at distance can tell not only are you thinking about safety, you’re practicing safety…but when you go out there, carry it right, but remember, firearm safety depends on you.”

            You said “the gun was visibly broken and open. Anyone could see that.”

            That’s a lie. The people behind Ted in the video could not see that.

            You said “You’re trying to interpret his words in a favourable manner by changing them.”

            That’s a lie. The quote I posted is an exact transcript of his words. The only words I removed were comments related to safe carrying for pump or semiautomatics. I changed nothing.

            You said “And you inserted stuff in parenthesis that the guy doesn’t say.”

            I inserted the description of the visual, since it was clear you didn’t watch the video. It did not change the meaning…to imply that it did is a lie.You said ” He never mentions Cruz. He never says Cruz was holding the gun incorrectly.”

            No, he never mentioned Cruz…because this video is just a regular gun safety video, not a response to Teddy’s stupidity. To imply – as you are doing – that this indicates that Teddy was carrying safely is a lie.

            You said “And BTW…you have no fucking clue whatsoever where I’m from, nor will you ever find out.” Sorry, cupcake, internal evidence indicates otherwise.

            You said ” I’m clearly more intelligent than you.”

            That is a lie. You were too stupid to pick up on the very obvious clues I gave you that I was not a male, you clearly don’t understand how I guessed at where you’re from, you have repeatedly demonstrated that your reading comprehension is not up to snuff, and you are unable to put together a logical argument without descending to invective and lies.

            I’m sure your Mum tells you you’re clever, but like you, she’s lying.

            Go the fuck away, you lying sack of spew.

          • wyclif

            I’ve quoted you repeatedly, bitch. You’ve got nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. All the evidence is on my side here.

          • jmk

            You haven’t quoted me once. Back up your assertions about me with quotes or GTFO.

          • wyclif

            Of course I quoted you. Here it is again:

            “That AnoinTed’s gun is empty THIS TIME doesn’t excuse him from practicing gun safety EVERY TIME.”

            So not only did you lie about Cruz doing something dangerous (not practicing GUN SAFETY), you went caps lock like some kind of fucking retard on top of that.

            Here’s an image of a rifle, the same type of rifle that Cruz was using and the carried safely in exactly the same way Cruz did from a state government parks & wildlife department: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f843c356c01d00815607a08c1e9a50d20c397e1fef8f867f14faefcb97f2c6a1.png

            You’ve gone around opening repeating these total lies about somebody who’s never done a thing to hurt you. You’re a disgusting filthy pig, and you need to shut your nasty piehole. A total lie. Promulgated by you and a few other know-nothing little trolls on this blog. The jig is up with you. You’ve got nothing.

          • jmk

            It’s clear that you didn’t understand what you quoted – “That AnoinTed’s gun is empty THIS TIME doesn’t excuse him from practicing gun safety EVERY TIME” means that he needs to follow the rules, regardless of whether he thought the gun was safe…regardless of whether the gun was actually safe. He’s not. The reason your picture doesn’t apply is that there are people behind Ted. Under those circumstances, it’s not a good carry, no matter how much foaming at the mouth you do, and you will never find a gun safety site that says it’s fine to not know where your gun is pointing or carry it like that when there are people behind you.

          • wyclif

            What’s clear, cupcake, is that you have no clue about gun safety. You see, if you don’t know anything about the subject then the best bet for you is to simply STFU. But you couldn’t do that, could you? You had to go opening your massive ugly piehole about something you have no fucking clue about. And you got served.

            And then, instead of retracting it like an honest person would do, and telling Wonkette to retract the stupid post, you doubled down.

            This is why I’ve got nothing but utter contempt for SJW assholes like you.

          • jmk

            That’s right – that line of attack didn’t work so run away and try something else.

            I have nothing to retract. Your dishonesty is disgusting.

          • wyclif

            You don’t understand firearms or gun safety, so you should shut your massive piehole, especially when people better appraised of the issues school you.

          • jmk

            See wyclif flounder. See wyclif grasp at straws. See wyclif’s attack fail. Deflect, deflect, wyclif! See wyclif fail. See wyclif lie about it.

          • wyclif

            You’ve been owned. You should admit it and draw off instead of digging your hole deeper. You’re a ridiculous SJW shill.

          • jmk

            It’s so funny how you dig out “SJW” every time you can’t actually refute what I say.

            Liar.

          • wyclif

            If the glove fits, princess.

          • jmk

            Yet you can’t cite a single thing I’ve said that was indicative of an “SJW” position or agenda.

            You and your GG buddies just sling it around at girls who scare you.

            Buffoon.

          • wyclif

            You’re an SJW because instead of admitting that Cruz was doing nothing improper, you wanted to defend Wonkette’s lame-ass attempt to score cheap political points just because he’s a Republican.

            That’s why you’re an SJW. It’s also why you’re a lying sack of shit.

          • jmk

            Go on… quote some of these “cheap political points” I’ve specifically made that you base this SJW nonsense on.

            You can’t. Again. Another lie from you.

            “It’s important that you understand the etiquette of how to properly carry your shotgun. The way I’ve got my gun on my shoulder here, if you were 300 yards away and looked over here and looked at me, you would know instantly that my gun was open, wouldn’t you?…we want people at a distance to be able to look at us and tell not only that we’re thinking about safety, but that our guns are open, safe, and empty ….The one thing that we don’t want to do is put it over our shoulders and have the barrel sticking out like this…always have control of your muzzles, know where they’re pointing…so that people at distance can tell not only are you thinking about safety, you’re practicing safety …but when you go out there, carry it right, but remember, firearm safety depends on you.”

          • wyclif

            Oh, I can. And I have. You’ve repeatedly slandered Cruz in this thread. All one need do is scroll up to see it. You accused somebody who was carrying a gun safely in open carry with endangering people.

            You’re an utter tosser. A malignant boil. A total shill for Wonkette’s brand of know-nothing political point-scoring.

          • jmk

            Why don’t you go suck Cruz’s dick on some other thread? You bore me.

          • wyclif

            Then stop coming back, you malignant, ugly cunt.

          • wyclif

            I’ve quoted you over and over again. And the thought that some random bitch like you “scares” me is truly laughable. Dealing with you is like swatting away flies. That’s because your shit stinks.

          • jmk

            So… despite your deranged claims about me, you’ve been unable to quote a single indication of any “SJW” agenda I am pursuing, or a single thing that indicates “hatred of legal gun ownership” on my part, or a single “cheap political point” I’ve tried to make, and you’ve been unable to come up with any reason to doubt any of the things I’ve posted other than that you are having a tantrum and don’t want to believe them. You’ve quoted one sentence, and repeatedly misrepresented the meaning of the sentence itself or the context in which it was made.

            Your lies are sad.

          • wyclif

            Defined above. You’ve repeatedly taken false cheap shots to score political points despite the truth of the matter, which is the essence of SJW shilling. So, you’ve been owned.

          • jmk

            Quote one.

          • wyclif

            Nope. Go ahead and prove you’re not. See where this is going? You’ve lost. Big time. Nobody’s buying what you’re selling. Except Wonkette ::: snicker :::

          • wyclif

            Already did. Not gonna do it again.

          • jmk

            So you can’t.

          • wyclif

            I’ve done it enough times. I’m not gonna do it again because you’re too bloody stupid to get it.

          • wyclif

            Nope. I don’t suffer fools gladly.

          • wyclif

            If the glove fits. I call you an SJW because it’s accurate—only a Social Justice Warrior with a festering rage against Republicans would try to go after Cruz for gun safety.

          • jmk

            Soooooo….you’ve actually got no reason to drag it up, other than your own deranged misrepresentation of my comments.

            So sad, the amount of lying you do.

          • wyclif

            Stop lying about people mishandling guns when they are doing it completely safely.

          • wyclif

            Well, you’re an SJW. A social justice warrior is somebody out to score political points no matter what the facts really are. Take a look in the mirror, bitch.

          • jmk

            Quote ONE thing that demonstrates that. I dare you.

          • wyclif

            You’ve got the standard, garden variety SJW view of gun safety. Lying repeatedly about people in the name of erroneous standards of “gun safety” is a form of social justice warrior-ism. Don’t twist it.

          • jmk

            That is some serious mental gymnastics you’re doing there, fuckwit.

            Thanks for once again confirming that you have no fucking integrity. Liar.

          • wyclif

            Thanks once again for confirming that you’re an SJW.

          • jmk

            You still can’t cite a single thing I’ve said that is “SJW” ish.

          • wyclif

            I already did. Your reading comprehension is pathetic. I told you I’m not gonna do it again. Read carefully, I’ll even put in in caps: NOT. GONNA. DO. IT. AGAIN. Stop drooling, start reading.

          • jmk

            You did nothing of the kind, liar…because you can’t. You’re all air, no substance.

          • wyclif

            I’m not going to do it over again. You’re going to have to try another gambit. You haven’t proven a thing in this thread, it’s just a load of gaseous bile from a know-nothing, brain-dead, Wonkette shill.

          • wyclif

            You are like butter in sunlight.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            I already did. Not gonna do it again. I don’t take orders from you, remember?

          • jmk

            You haven’t quoted a thing because you can’t.

          • wyclif

            Nope. It’s all there for anyone to see. Quoted you repeatedly. Not gonna do it again. I already told you I wasn’t. So step off.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You don’t know the first thing about guns or firearm safety, so you go out on a limb and lie your ass off about it. So I sawed off your limb. Now your ass has been handed to you.

          • jmk

            I did not tell a single lie. Not one.

            You, on the other hand, have lied this whole time, and I’ve shown your lies to you and you lie about them…because you’re a liar.

          • wyclif

            You’ve lied constantly in this thread about gun safety and about Cruz. He’s clearly holding the gun safely in proper field carry, yet you lied about it, claiming it was unsafe and a danger than others.

            You are an absurd, filthy little troll. You don’t give a rat’s ass about truth or honour, all you care about is politics.

          • jmk

            “It’s important that you understand the etiquette of how to properly carry your shotgun. The way I’ve got my gun on my shoulder here, if you were 300 yards away and looked over here and looked at me, you would know instantly that my gun was open, wouldn’t you?…we want people at a distance to be able to look at us and tell not only that we’re thinking about safety, but that our guns are open, safe, and empty ….The one thing that we don’t want to do is put it over our shoulders and have the barrel sticking out like this…always have control of your muzzles, know where they’re pointing…so that people at distance can tell not only are you thinking about safety, you’re practicing safety …but when you go out there, carry it right, but remember, firearm safety depends on you.”

          • wyclif

            You can copy-paste this a billion times; it doesn’t say what you claim it does. I’ve already covered the necessary territory on this above. Anybody looking at Cruz would know the gun was safely being held. So attempts to claim he was doing something dangerous were malicious, evil lies on your part. You’re not only an embarrassment to Wonkette trollery, you’re a completely unserious and unvirtuous bitch.

          • wyclif

            You’ve lied repeatedly above, saying that Cruz was endangering people with the rifle. Which is a lie.

          • jmk

            With the RIFLE? The RIFLE??

            Busted. Dismissed. GTFO.

          • wyclif

            LOL! Busted? Why? Because I said “rifle”?

            Seriously, at this point you’re just entertaining me.

          • jmk

            Look! You’re Twitter famous!!
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/703b255bd2e4587dd08d40ae5e7704f3e8e52652c3afddc2aae707cc86add7d2.png

            And no surprise…it’s for excusing a murderer and cheering him on.

            You no longer exist to me, you piece of shit.

          • wyclif

            Look! That’s actually not me, you idiot!

          • jmk

            Liar. I don’t believe you. Prove it.

          • wyclif

            Is this person you? https://twitter.com/jmk

            No? Prove it.

          • jmk

            You might want to ask your mommy to tell you the difference between boys and girls.

          • wyclif

            You might want to stop being foolish and get out of your onesie and wash your cocoa cup. The point of that was not that I believe you’re a dude. The point was to make fun of how ridiculous your previous assertion was. And it worked.

          • jmk

            Thanks for demonstrating that you are not only predictable and dishonest, but that you are apparently so unintelligent that you were unable to see that I was actually making fun of your asinine and puerile claims that my stepfather was “imaginary,” and the stupidity of your “prove he’s not imaginary” nonsense. To see you childishly try to mock a tactic you, yourself, tried (and failed) to use against me is quite pathetic.

            I have previously told you that all it will take for me to stop responding to you is for you to just stop lying about me…that you reject that reasonable idea speaks volumes. I can’t even begin imagine how without value you must feel to make you think it’s reasonable or rational to become so invested in having the last word here that you are prepared to go to any lengths, including lying, baiting, trolling, and stalking, just to feel that you’ve “won” something – anything – for once in your sad life. That’s a level of emotional destitution I’ve never experienced and can’t begin to imagine.

            Your demonstrated lack of regard for facts, combined with the reflexive vitriol that pervades every comment you’ve posted (not only those you addressed to me, but every single comment you’ve posted to this piece) and the desperation with which you cling to this thread and keep it alive because you’ve convinced yourself that having the last word means you can “win” at something illustrates such a profound lack of personal integrity and self-esteem on your part that it borders on the pathological.

            Seriously, dude. Seek treatment. You’re very ill.

          • wyclif

            Prove it. So far, you haven’t. All you’ve done is offer up a bunch of baseless claims about gun safety, all of which have turned out to be false. Fact: Cruz wasn’t within striking distance of those people. You can even see it in the photos above that you posted yourself.

            So you’re busted. This is laughable trollery on your part, and it’s totally ineffective. You’ve lied and lied and lied your ass off about this, and I’ve called you out on it. You’ve been served.

          • jmk

            You really need help. You’re very ill.

          • wyclif

            Prove it.

          • jmk

            Your behavior indicates very serious mental health issues. Please seek treatment. You need it.

          • wyclif

            Only in your warped little fantasy world would you think that resisting your lies and refuting them is illness. That’s actually a sign of health. But just test me on this. Keep coming back here and see how healthy I am.

          • jmk

            You display signs of very serious mental illness. Please see a doctor.

          • wyclif

            Have you found help yet? Mental health professionals are a google search away in your region.

          • jmk

            Get counseling .

          • wyclif

            You didn’t get help yet, did you? You should be seeking mental health counselling, not commenting on Disqus.

          • jmk

            All you have to do is stop lying about me and I’ll go away… that you reject this common-sense idea indicates that you are not rational. Get help.

          • wyclif

            This is why people have such utter contempt for you and your kind. You’ve lied your ass off in this thread, and when it was pointed out you doubled down on the lies. So no, I’m not going anywhere. You are going to take your medicine, or you are going to leave this thread.

          • jmk

            You’ve made the claim that I’ve “lied” in this thread, yet you never back that up with evidence. When challenged to quote me, you shift subjects because you can’t. When confronted with evidence that you’re wrong, you lie. Stop lying and I’ll go away.

          • wyclif

            I’ve backed it up with evidence over and over again. First you said Cruz was brandishing the shotgun unsafely, and myself and many others pointed out that he wasn’t because the gun is obviously and visibly broken open and held in field carry. To this, you shrieked that he was endangering people. When that didn’t work, you then claimed that Cruz was “swinging it around” just because he moved his body, turning to face the person he was talking to at the time.

            So, it’s you who have lied over and over again, not me. And I’m not going away. The day you stop commenting here is the day I go away—got that? I hope you do, because I’m completely and utterly serious.

          • jmk

            I backed up my claim that he was holding it unsafely by citing experts, with video, with pictures, and with examples of what I was talking about. All you did to back up your claim was have a tantrum.

          • wyclif

            You did nothing of the sort! You posted a photo that I did, and added your own commentary. So what? All you’ve done here is screech about Cruz mishandling a firearm when he obviously wasn’t, defending this Wonkette post. This post is “Exhibit A” for totally laughable gun derangement syndrome of the Left. And you bought it, hook, line and sinker. It would have been better for you to refute it rather than defend it. But you defended it because you know nothing about firearms. Most sane people would refrain from commenting about things they know nothing about, but not you! Noooooooo, you had to double down and act like a moron. So here we are. Back out now. You look like a clown.

          • jmk

            I posted the photo you posted WITH the commentary the site provided that you dishonestly cut out because it didn’t suit your narrative. When I posted the full text from the website, you first tried to say it was something I’d added, then that it was some other person’s comment, and then, when you ran out of ideas to try to refute the obvious evidence of your lies, you tried to deflect attention away from it.

            So…in other words, I posted the actual photo and provided the context and you lied. Again.

          • wyclif

            No, you’ve lied about this over and over again. Cruz was doing nothing illegal or unsafe. He wasn’t “swinging the gun around” as you said. He wasn’t “endangering” anybody, as you and Kalili Joy maintain. Face it, you’re an absurd clown who knows nothing about firearms. You should stick to what you know, like cop stepfathers and “IT professionalism.”

          • wyclif

            You backed up nothing. Nothing! You screeched about how Cruz was endangering people, “swinging a gun around” unsafely, and carrying the gun improperly. All lies. All manifestly, demonstrably untrue. You are unhinged. A deceptive, malicious troll. Seek help.

          • wyclif

            You’ve lied about Cruz repeatedly. You’ve said over and over again that he was handling the gun unsafely when he wasn’t. This is why you’re such an utterly contemptible troll.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply mentally ill person. You should really seek help as soon as possible.

          • jmk

            So you have nothing… as usual. Get help…you’re mentally ill.

          • wyclif

            You’ve been owned.

          • wyclif

            You’ve lied over and over again, and I’ve proven it over and over again by pointing out that Cruz was carrying the gun safely. The NRA and every other authority agrees with me on this. You’re nothing more than a burbling troll.

          • wyclif

            Nope. No deal. Stop coming back here and commenting. Only then will I ago away. That’s the deal, and it’s not changing. You ought to apologize to Cruz. Write him a letter. He’ll be happy to hear from you. And if you can’t do that, get mental health care immediately.

          • jmk

            Once you stop posting things about me that are entirely false, I’ll have no reason to correct you and won’t need to respond. I will not allow someone to post uncorrected lies about me. It’s as simple as that.

            You are clearly saying that you prefer to keep lying. That’s not the choice a sane person makes. Get help.

          • wyclif

            I already told you that’s no deal. The deal is you go away or Wonkette deletes this thread. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? (Don’t answer that—it’s a rhetorical question, I know you do). You are not going to be allowed to double down on these lied uncontested, so you’d better buckle down for the long haul. I’m not going away. Either you shut up, or Wonkette deletes this thread. Period.

          • wyclif

            One you stop lying, and returning to this thread, nobody is going to microaggress you. Until you step off and stop coming back here, you’re going to get pushback. It’s your choice, but the fact that you can’t figure this out yet reveals how completely stupid you are. You’re sick. Normal people don’t act this way. Other people would have apologized by now. But you won’t. That’s your pride and arrogance talking. It also means you’re sick. Get help.

          • jmk

            I have nothing to apologize for. Unlike you, I haven’t lied.

          • wyclif

            Plan to spend a lot of time here. A lot.

          • wyclif

            Nope. No deal. I already told you what the deal is. Step off this thread or else expect a long, drawn out rebuttal of your lies. Stop lying about people. Stop lying about me. Stop lying about Cruz. Stop lying about firearms. I reject you and your mountain of burbling lies and sophistry.

          • jmk

            Pro-tip – neither your hysterical shriekings nor your empty contradictions constitute a “rebuttal.”

            You’ve provided no evidence that unequivocally indicates that the way Cruz carried the gun would be considered safe by every possible expert – you can’t do so, since I’ve cited at least four experts who say that carrying a gun that way, with people behind him, isn’t safe.

            In fact, the lone photo you dishonestly posted without context is actually, on the Texas Parks and Wildlife website (https://tpwd.texas.gov/education/hunter-education/online-course/hunting-safety/safe-carries), accompanied by text that says flat-out that this “is not a good carry if others are behind you”…and I demonstrated that people are behind Cruz in the video.

            In addition, I’ve posted a paragraph from the original piece that echoes the point made by the video I posted and the point I’ve been making for over a month – whether Cruz THOUGHT that the gun was safe, whether the gun was ACTUALLY safe, is immaterial. It is up to him, as a self-appointed spokesman for gun owners, to demonstrate the utmost attention to gun safety…and he didn’t.

            At best, you could have said that opinion is divided, and reasonable people would have left it at that…but you have spent the last month or more trying to claim that I’ve “lied” when I pointed out problems with the way he carried the gun – a ridiculous contention, since I’ve provided evidence that at least four experts agree with me, meaning that my position is clearly not a “lie”… it’s just one with which you disagree.

            However, you are clearly unable to deal with the grown-up idea that reasonable people can disagree about something. Instead, you’ve rather insanely turned this into a juvenile pissing contest in which you’ve become so invested in having the last word that you’ll lie about me and to me, you’ll vilify anyone who disagrees with you just because they disagree with you, and you’ll make up ridiculous and blatantly false stories about yourself and about people you don’t know and hysterically insist that your fantasies about others are true while demanding that other people prove they’re not.

            None of that is rational or even sane…and having the last word won’t make you sane, it won’t make you a happier person, and it won’t make your weenus any bigger, dude…sorry. All it means is that you’re a dishonest and desperate twit who shows signs of a rather creepy mental illness.

          • wyclif

            Actually, I’ve rebutted you on this decisively over and over again, cupcake. And your demands for what constitutes both “evidence” and “proof” are highly flawed.

            The reason why is because I notice that you set your “proof” up so that the bar Cruz would have to meet for safe handling of a gun would be impossible for any mortal to meet. Note that you say his handling of the gun would have to “be considered safe by every possible expert.” And then you go on to define who YOU consider to be the “expert.” That’s a classic evidentiary fallacy, right there. And you have in no way provided evidence from, as you say, “every” expert. It’s not hard for anyone to see this ruse for what it is, and laugh at it. Your “expert” could be any yahoo on the Internet. And it looks like that’s exactly what you’re saying. You’re setting up yourself and other people who don’t know about safe gun handling at the “experts.” Then you engage in massive question-begging, arguing that the conclusions of these yahoos—not experts like the NRA—constitute “proof.”

            Begging the question isn’t argumentation, cupcake. You provide no evidence from experts, let alone every expert, so that’s flatly false right out of the gate. The fact that your view has been roundly ridiculed by sportsmen all over the US apparently doesn’t impress you much. It should:

            http://twitchy.com/2015/11/05/wonkette-takes-its-turn-to-ridicule-ted-cruz-and-his-backwards-shotgun/

            Here’s the same photo again, that I myself originally added to this thread, and you copied with a bunch of gibberish added to it:

            https://twitter.com/Olmanswamp/status/662124449693569024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

            When the video you cite says “this is not a good carry if others are behind you”, in order for that to be a slam dunk against Cruz, others would have to be close enough behind him to put them in danger. However, those conditions aren’t actually in play. The people in the video aren’t *anywhere* near Cruz. So, that line of argumentation of yours fails.

            So, you’ve lied about this over and over again. You haven’t provided evidence from experts regarding gun safety. You haven’t shown that Cruz was carrying the gun improperly. You haven’t shown that Cruz was endangering anybody or handling the gun unsafely. You haven’t shown that Cruz was maliciously “swinging the gun around” (your words).

            You’ve proven nothing at all. The only thing you’ve done is repeat malicious lies about somebody handling the gun safely, all to score petty and cheap political points because you have no integrity.

            You’re nothing more than a tendentious little troll who is easily rebutted and denounced as a prolix asshat.

          • jmk

            Let’s go through this again.

            Had you actually READ my comment, you’d know that the reason I said that “his handling of the gun would have to “be considered safe by every possible expert” was NOT – as you seem to think – to demonstrate that it WAS safe, but to refute YOUR claim that I was “lying” by disagreeing with you.

            YOU claimed that EVERY gun safety expert said Cruz handled the gun safely and that I was “lying” by pointing out that he wasn’t. I cited four experts who disagreed with you, and included links to sites, including the NRA’s site, that included material indicating that the way he was carrying the gun was not safe. For me to have been “lying,” there would have had to have been unequivocal and complete support for your claims by ALL experts. There wasn’t. The experts who disagree with you exist. Therefore, your claim that I was “lying” when I pointed out problems with his method of carrying is not supported…and every time you persist in posting your claim, you, yourself, are lying.

            That you then claim that anyone who disagrees with you must not really be an expert but must be some “yahoo,” is just more evidence of your dishonesty. You could have said “ok, those recognized gun safety instructors and the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department disagree with me but others agree with me, so I guess opinion is divided, but I still think it was safe, but hey, no harm, no foul.” You didn’t do that, though… did you? Instead, you’ve launched a full-scale, vitriolic, and entirely weird attack on anyone who DARED contradict you.

            As to the rest of your nonsense, yes…as you say, “Here’s the same photo again, that [you] [yourself] [sic] originally added to this thread.” It’s very obvious that you got that photo from Twitchy, and didn’t bother to check where THEY got it from. It’s hilarious that you would post a link to a right-wing political site to support your claims, yet you claim I’m trying to “score cheap political points” because I’ve posted links to gun safety and hunting safety sites IN CONTEXT.

            What makes it incredibly clear that you did not visit the source website is the fact that the quote I provided NUMEROUS times, and which you have derided numerous times – the one that said “this is not a good carry if others are behind you” – is from the same source AS THE PHOTO YOU JUST POSTED, and NOT from the video I posted, as you claim.

            Here’s the website – look it up for yourself: https://tpwd.texas.gov/education/hunter-education/shooting-safety-rules

            That’s where Twitchy got that photo YOU POSTED from… and as you can see, they left out the context. You’re just too dishonest to acknowledge that.

            I have also demonstrated that people actually WERE behind Cruz as he stood talking to reporters… and those people were well within 100 yards of him, and were, therefore, well within the range of the gun he was holding, so your claim that they weren’t “close behind him” has no validity.

            Moving on… since I never once suggested that Cruz was “maliciously” swinging the gun around, but only that he was carelessly doing so, your whinging about that can be summarily dismissed.

            Your claim that I’ve been trying to “score cheap political points” doesn’t stand up to scrutiny, either…I’ve made not ONE “political” comment about Cruz other than occasionally referring to him as AnoinTed (based on his own father’s claims).

          • wyclif

            No, I didn’t say that “every” gun expert claimed that Cruz was handling the gun safely. Don’t twist it. That’s not going to work here. You claimed that “every” gun expert said that Cruz was handling the gun unsafely, then you never supplied this “proof.” All you did was serve up the same lame bullshit you’ve been this entire thread.

            Instead, I included the long thread I embedded above, showing numerous gun owners and NRA members ridiculing your view and Wonkette’s view (the same erroneous and laughable view that you’ve defended over and over again here) that Cruz was handing the gun unsafely, that safe field carry is, according to you and a lone so-called YouTube “expert”, “unsafe”, and that Cruz was “swinging the gun around” and endangering people.

            All of which, I point out once again, is completely and utterly false.

            I did indeed visit the Texas gov website you cited, but it doesn’t say what you claim it does. It doesn’t claim that anything the Cruz did in the video is unsafe. In fact, the photo from the site (that, notably, I was the first one to introduce here, not you), shows clearly a woman holding the gun IN THE VERY SAME MANNER THAT CRUZ IS.

            You’ve also now added additional, false requirements in the above comment for Cruz to meet, raising the bar again on what you delusionally believe is the burden of proof—a burden of proof not shared by any authority on firearms, but only yourself. You now have added that the people behind Cruz in the video were “well within 100 yards of him.” But you don’t know this. Have you measured the distance between Cruz and those people? Of course you haven’t—you pulled that right out of your malignant, festering ass.

            So you’ve made all these absurd claims, and I’ve not only shown them to be false, but have also shown numerous NRA members laughing at Wonkette and calling them out on Twitter and elsewhere. You’ve falsely accused Cruz of doing things he didn’t, and worse, you’ve accused him of endangering people without proof.

            So you’ve failed. You haven’t proven a thing, except that you are a burbling liar, only seeking to score political points because you don’t like Republicans, and lying your ass off about them because it serves your purposes. It’s no wonder that fair-minded people all over America consider Wonkette and its defenders like you to be a cancer on the system. You are nothing more than a clown. Get back in your clown car and go pound sand.

          • jmk

            You said “You claimed that “every” gun expert said that Cruz was handling the gun unsafely.”

            That is a lie. I never said that “every” gun expert said that. In fact, I made it very clear that the Texas Parks and Wildlife site and the video I cited said nothing specific about Cruz, but that those experts said that people who carry guns the way Cruz was carrying his gun are not practicing optimal gun safety.

            You said “I did indeed visit the Texas gov website you cited, but it doesn’t say what you claim it does. It doesn’t claim that anything the Cruz did in the video is unsafe. In fact, the photo from the site (that, notably, I was the first one to introduce here, not you), shows clearly a woman holding the gun IN THE VERY SAME MANNER THAT CRUZ IS.”

            Here is a screenshot of the page you claim to have visited. The text underneath the picture you keep citing is VERY CLEAR. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/165b2662e0c858d464da3fbb0174d80261a72cae0a6318df62a2de41f938ee44.png

            Here’s the link to the exact page so you can see for yourself:
            https://tpwd.texas.gov/education/hunter-education/online-course/hunting-safety/safe-carries

            BTW, you are apparently unaware that Twitchy is a extremely right-wing site that is routinely derided here on Wonkette. Citing that as your source here is like citing Answers in Genesis on a scientific website.

            You claim I’ve raised “the bar again on what you delusionally believe is the burden of proof—a burden of proof not shared by any authority on firearms, but only yourself.”

            Read what I wrote again… maybe you’ll understand it this time –
            “Had you actually READ my comment, you’d know that the reason I said that “his handling of the gun would have to ‘be considered safe by every possible expert'” was NOT – as you seem to think – to demonstrate that it WAS safe, but to refute YOUR claim that I was “lying” by disagreeing with you.

            YOU claimed that EVERY gun safety expert said Cruz handled the gun safely and that I was “lying” by pointing out that he wasn’t. I cited four experts who disagreed with you, and included links to or quotes from sites, including the NRA’s site, that included material indicating that the way he was carrying the gun was not safe. For me to have been “lying,” there would have had to have been unequivocal and complete support for your claims by ALL experts. There wasn’t. The experts who disagree with you exist. Therefore, your claim that I was “lying” when I pointed out problems with his method of carrying is not supported…and every time you persist in posting your claim, you, yourself, are lying.”

            As to how close the people were to Cruz, it’s clear from screenshots taken from his video that they are well within 100 yards:

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1e80b6b22bdb16d71cad62e2e77b0ce8514aed6fdd4de4dda2548eab2f029fe7.png

            I had a good, hearty chuckle at the increasing desperation of your claims and at your blatant inability to read. Then, as I considered your repeated citing of the uber-partisan Michelle Malkin’s Twitchy as your source, my chuckle grew to a guffaw at the absurd and petty stupidity of your “it’s no wonder that fair-minded people all over America consider Wonkette and its defenders like you to be a cancer on the system.”

            Did you flounce off to your room like a 9 year old girl when you said that?

            Poor you.

          • wyclif

            It says “it is not a good carry if others are behind you.” That’s what it says. But as I’ve pointed out over and over again ad nauseum, and what you still can’t get through your tiny pea brain, is that NOBODY WAS NEARBY CRUZ. The people in the photo with the stupid little red arrows that some moron added aren’t anywhere close enough to Cruz to be in danger.

            Cruz isn’t endangering anybody in that video. You’ve lied about this over and over again. Do you see why people who own firearms and actually know about them have utter contempt for your pathetic attempts to slander Cruz, and have (per the thread I posted above) ridiculed trolls like you relentlessly for your stupidity and know-nothingnesss? No, you don’t see it? You’d better get a new pair of glasses, cupcake.

          • jmk

            LOL That thread you posted is from Twitchy. What’s next? Will you be posting comments from the Daily Stormer to support your position?

            One last thing… you said “NOBODY WAS NEARBY [sic] CRUZ.”

            In this photo, you can see people who, you claim, “aren’t anywhere close enough to Cruz to be in danger.”

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1e80b6b22bdb16d71cad62e2e77b0ce8514aed6fdd4de4dda2548eab2f029fe7.png

            And here is a photo taken from the end zone of a football field, in which you can clearly see markers indicating that the people on the field are standing between the 20 and 30 yard line, which is – since end zones are 10 yards wide – approximately 30-40 yards from the camera.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/93e36991cd4cc1e7d9a66109129194a0f2844951ce64bb23cc01fe090ebddda1.png

            The people behind Cruz are clearly closer to the camera than the people on the football field are, and as the gun Cruz is holding, of which the people behind him can only see the barrel, has a range of quite a bit more than 20-30 yards, they are within range. As numerous experts have pointed out, it’s important not only to practice gun safety, but to demonstrate to everyone within range that you are practicing gun safety. He isn’t. QED.

            We’re done here. I’ve repeatedly demonstrated that you are totally out to lunch. I will no longer respond to you.

            I am aware that you are so without self-value that your ego needs to feel like you’ve scored some grubby little victory by outlasting me… but as anyone who has read this thread will clearly see that you may post the last comment, but in demonstrating how comprehensively and repeatedly you’ve lied, misrepresented, fabricated, and lied again, I have clearly had the last word.

          • wyclif

            Says somebody who promotes a LWNJ blog like Wonkette. Oh, you totally got met there! “Twitchy is right wing!” you cry. But the question is—compared to what? Compared to Wonkette?

            Well, just about any blog or news org is “right wing” compared to the tin foil hat bullshit drivel written by Wonkette.

            And the fact of the matter is, you STILL haven’t proven a thing. You’ve inserted new, self-made standards of proof and evidence, and nobody’s convinced except for you.

            You claimed Cruz was handling the gun in an unsafe manner. You agreed when Wonkette said Cruz could blow somebody’s head off. You claimed Cruz was “swinging the gun around” when he wasn’t. All of it vile, despicable lies. The muzzle of the gun isn’t pointing at anybody. The gun is broken and unloaded. It’s being held in safe shoulder carry. None of that matter to an obnoxious little troll like you. Because you’re a mouth-breathing moron whose tiny little pea brain can’t wrap itself around what is obvious to intelligent people.

            You have quoted a single thing from a reliable authority on gun safety. Not the NRA. Not Gun Owners of America. Nothing legit. It’s all lies from you. Cruz did nothing wrong here, and you’re just a political shill and a Wonkette troll trying to score cheap little points off ridiculous nonsense that we all ridicule you for.

            So yes, we ARE done here. You’ve been owned. I’ve been saying this for weeks now: we are done. You’ve had your pathetic ass handed to you over and over again. It hasn’t been till now that you’ve understood that. And I’m not sure you do. But guess what? You’re not getting the last word here.

          • jmk

            “Again, here’s an unedited, un-tampered-with image from the Texas Parks & Wildlife department, before you or someone else edited it to try to twist it for your own purposes”

            Since that’s exactly what I posted, as anyone reading this thread could see, your claim that I edited it is just more evidence that you are a blatant and demonstrable liar.

            I am aware that you are so without self-value that your ego needs to feel like you’ve scored some grubby little victory by outlasting me… but as anyone who has read this thread will clearly see, you may post the last comment but in demonstrating how comprehensively and repeatedly you’ve lied, misrepresented, fabricated, and lied again, I have clearly had the last word.

          • wyclif

            The fact of the matter is that even that stupid image you posted doesn’t show anybody directly behind Cruz. There’s nobody there. There’s a little red arrow pointing to a house!

            Fact: Cruz didn’t mishandle the gun. Fact: Cruz didn’t endanger anybody. Fact: Cruz wasn’t pointing the gun at anyone. Fact: the gun is broken. Fact: the gun is completely unloaded. Fact: Cruz was not “swinging the gun around.”

            Fact: Cruz endangered nobody. The only endangerment is the voices inside your delusional and mentally ill psyche.

            You’ve maliciously lied about all of this just to blacken the guy’s reputation. All because you don’t agree with his politics. People like you are PRECISELY why LWNJ blogs like Wonkette are shit.

            Nobody who actually owns guns and uses them is impressed by your bullshit. They’re not convinced by anything you’ve lied about.

            Please get mental health care as soon as possible. You are a deeply sick person.

          • jmk

            I’ll take advantage of this teachable moment to point out that when you say “Nobody who actually owns guns and uses them is impressed by your bullshit,” you are in error.

            The fact that other people in this thread – people at whom you also aimed your vitriol – are gun owners and users, and yet agree with the points I’ve made invalidates your statement, as does the fact that at least four experts – whose opinions I’ve cited previously – agree with me regarding Cruz’s carry.

            Based on your previous tantrums, I know that you will try to narrow that “nobody who actually owns guns and uses them” to exclude those who invalidate your claim in a textbook example of the No True Scotsman fallacy, but that will just compound your error.

            In addition, I suspect that you are in no position to actually know what people who “actually [own] guns and [use] them” think, given the number of errors about guns your own comments have contained, from calling Cruz’s gun a “rifle” to apparently being unaware of the range of such a firearm.

            I must say, though… it’s funny when someone who clearly gets his opinions from a blogsite run by a right-wing fanatic screams that other people are trying to make political points, and tries to diss someone over their own opinions.

          • wyclif

            You’re not the teacher, cupcake—you’re the student. If you had enough brains to be taught, which I don’t think you do.

            When you called gun owners on Twitter “right wing”, you never answered my question “right wing compared to what?” Compared to Wonkette??? ROFLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!! That’s a really knee-slapper. Just about every blog on the Internet is to the right of Wonkette, except perhaps for your fellow retards over at Daily Kos.

            The fact that the people who actually do know about gun safety have repudiated your hilarious and absurd defense of Wonkette’s know-nothingness regarding guns is singularly amusing. So let’s review once more:

            Cruz wasn’t “swinging the gun around” (your words). He wasn’t endangering anybody, which you claimed. He wasn’t carrying the gun unsafely. He wasn’t “pointing the gun at people.”

            In fact, he was doing none of those things, but you lied and said that he was. That’s why fair-minded people have utter contempt for you.

            When someone like you—and I categorize you as “obvious troll is obvious”—gets your opinions from Wonkette, I think you’re leaning on a very weak reed. I tried warning you, but you doubled down. Now you’re going to take your medicine. You ought to go back to your phony “IT professional”-ism. That’s the fantasy where you are supposedly an IT expert, but you can’t make me go away or delete this thread. Some “professional” you are—your “IT professionalism” is about as nuanced as your gun expertise!

          • jmk

            Either you’re lying again or you really can’t read.

            1. I never called the gun owners on Twitter “right wing.” I called the people at Twitchy “right wing.” If you’re now going to try to deny that Michelle Malkin, et. al. is right wing, then I’ll know you’ve gone from being delusional to being full-on demented.

            2. I demonstrated that the gun did indeed swing as Cruz turned his body.

            3. I never said he was deliberately pointing the gun at people…just that he was careless of where the gun was pointing and it pointed at people as a result of his inattention.

            I am an “IT professional.” As I have said repeatedly, I write documentation for software. That does not make me an admin on Wonkette. Sorry you don’t know how websites work.

            It’s funny to watch you try to say something really cutting, and just end up digging yourself deeper into the shit with every lie.

            Again… you may say the final thing in this exchange, but I have clearly and obviously had the last word.

          • wyclif

            You are a sick, delusional person.

            1. The point of my response to your “right wing” comment is that Twitchy is only “right wing” compared to Wonkette. Then again, almost everything under the sun is right wing compared to a LWNJ blog like Wonkette. This is not a complex point—it’s a simple one that even an idiot like yourself should be able to grasp.

            2. Cruz NEVER was “swinging the gun around” as you claimed. Anyone viewing the video can see this for themselves. Another of your lies.

            3. You indeed did say that Cruz was pointing the gun at people. But he clearly wasn’t. Another inept lie of yours.

            As for your phony “IT professional”-ism (which you haven’t proved at all), the point of my bringing that up is that you’re obviously not an admin here. That was precisely my point—you have absolutely no power to ban me or do anything else to me. You’re completely unable to do anything about this thread.

            I think it’s pretty obvious who’s in the shit here, and it’s not me! And on that note, you say this:

            “…you may say the final thing in this exchange…”

            No, cupcake. You are deluding yourself there, too. I WILL say the final thing in this exchange. Not you. Count on it.

          • jmk

            And yet, having comprehensively demonstrated what a deluded, lying, mentally ill shitheel you are, I will very definitely have the last word.

            Bye bye.

          • wyclif

            The only person in this lengthy part of the thread who has demonstrated anything would be me, cupcake. The fact that you still don’t know this is signally demonstrative of your delusions. You haven’t proven a thing, and you’ve been comprehensively owned.

            Time for you to stop having a mental conniption fit and see a doctor. You are in desperate need of mental health care.

            And BTW, I *will* get the last word here. Don’t say “bye bye” unless you intend not to come back here.

          • jmk
          • wyclif
          • wyclif

            Hilariously, that tweet only proves the point I’ve made over and over in this thread: it’s all about the Left’s overwhelming thirst to try and score cheap little points against somebody for their politics. It has nothing to do with gun safety, and they’ve got no valid criticism of that. It’s easy to see through.

            But go ahead, cupcake. Keep working overtime to make GOP candidates sympathetic to everyone but the die-hardest partisans on the Left, and see how that works for you. Noxious little string-pullers like yourself are doing harm to yourselves, not to us.

            Being a contemptible liar is not a good look for you. Posting dildo drawings isn’t, either. But it does indicate what’s probably missing in your life: a man.

          • jmk
          • wyclif
          • jmk
          • wyclif
          • wyclif
          • wyclif

            That’s not common sense, that’s surrender to a troll. No surrender. Get lost.

          • wyclif

            Seek mental health treatment immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are in desperate straits. Seek help. You’re sick.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You might want to ask your Daddy why he dropped you on your head as a child.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            Liar. I don’t believe you. Prove it.

          • jmk

            Hit a nerve, did I?

          • wyclif

            Not at all. You haven’t proven a thing. You’re still a gaseous bag of wind.

          • wyclif

            Prove it.

          • jmk

            Seek treatment. You’re very ill.

          • wyclif

            Prove it.

          • jmk

            Get help.

          • wyclif

            Prove it.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person. Seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You are a deeply disturbed, mentally ill person and you need to seek help immediately.

          • wyclif

            You don’t know shit about guns.

          • wyclif

            Still derping instead of apologising for maligning somebody who did nothing wrong, princess?

          • jmk

            Awww… were you looking forward to airing your collection of gendered insults in ladies’ sizes? Tooooooo baaaad.

            You have stalked me with insults, misrepresented what I’ve said, and then made a shit-ton of claims about me, not one of which was accurate, and not one of which you backed up with a quote or any evidence when challenged… but you think I owe you an apology? That’s hilarious.

            To quote a friend:
            “At the end of the day, what is telling is the amount of butthurt being shown from the gun nut crowd – not the responsible gun people, the actual gun nuts. A liberal author who writes snarky satire about Republicans (and does it well) writes thousands of articles mocking the fuck out of Republicans, and the one article that sends people over the edge is one where she suggests a person running for president should set a better example when it comes to firearm safety. This is what pisses you people off. You guys really are fucking nuts.”

          • wyclif

            I haven’t stalked a thing. You’ve continued to come back here over and over again, so that “stalking” bullshit is a dead end. If you don’t like it, then step off. Because, you know, I’m not stepping off for a nasty, burbling cunt like you.

          • jmk

            You’re in MY house, shitbag. Take your derp elsewhere…and seek treatment for your attention-seeking, your mommy issues, and your rage addiction.

          • wyclif

            LOL! Bullshit. This isn’t your house—you don’t even have admin power.

            You’re an utter joke, Miss “IT professional.”

          • wyclif

            I think it’s pretty clear from this thread that it’s not all I have. You’ve been owned. Not a little. A lot

          • wyclif

            Still derping, eh? Not a good look for you.

          • jmk

            Derp. It’s all you have.

          • wyclif

            Remember what I said, princess. You’re not getting the last word here. Not.

            I can take this thread into the next decade easily. If you think I’m kidding, just try me.

          • jmk

            To quote a friend:
            “At the end of the day, what is telling is the amount of butthurt being shown from the gun nut crowd – not the responsible gun people, the actual gun nuts. A liberal author who writes snarky satire about Republicans (and does it well) writes thousands of articles mocking the fuck out of Republicans, and the one article that sends people over the edge is one where she suggests a person running for president should set a better example when it comes to firearm safety. This is what pisses you people off. You guys really are fucking nuts.”

          • jmk

            Oh I don’t think you’re kidding. I believe your life is just that empty.

          • wyclif

            Nobody gives a shit what you believe, princess.

          • jmk

            Oh, and I think you got your socks mixed up. You replied with the wrong account.
            Bye, Wile E.

          • wyclif

            LOL! Poor JMK. “Many people disagree with me = sockpuppetry.”

            Guess what, that’s not sockpuppetry, that’s calling you out as an absurd fedora. What a pathetic loser you are.

          • jmk

            No, no, cupcake… you horning in on a thread that didn’t involve your wyclif persona but responding as if it did was what clued me in to your sockpuppetry.

            Again with the “defending the indefensible” with nothing but hot air to back it up.

            You’re pathetic.

          • wyclif

            Guess what, fedora? You don’t make the rules around here. Acting all butthurt because more than one person rebuffed your massive idiocy is hilarious.

            And yes, you have defended the indefensible. For review, you defended K-Joy’s contention that field carry of a break-action shotgun is dangerous. It was stupid when you did it the first time, and it’s stupid now. You haven’t done a thing to prove that it’s “dangerous”, you’ve just parroted the talking points of your media masters, and that’s why everybody ridicules you and Wonkette. You’re a joke. We snicker at you. We giggle at your inane, moronic asshattery and your leftist derangement syndrome.

          • jmk

            That you keep calling me “fedora” is hysterically funny, cupcake. It’s easy to see that you can’t figure out why it’s so wide of the mark…but keep fucking that chicken! And FYI, laughing at you is not the same as being butthurt.

            For ACTUAL review…all I have ever said about AnoinTed’s stupidity was that I was taught to respect the rules of gun safety – not to “parrot” them – two of which are that you ALWAYS treat a weapon as if it’s loaded, and don’t EVER point it at anything you don’t want to shoot. My stepfather would have flipped out if I’d carried a shotgun that way, not because it was inherently dangerous to do so, but because it was sloppy to do so…and sloppiness about safety kills. Since he handled and used firearms as part of his job, I’ll take his word for it over that of a puerile ammosexual like yourself…and he agrees with Kaili that Cruz had a responsibility to demonstrate more concern for safety.

            And my stepfather is a retired cop, not anyone’s “media master” so the only “massive idiocy” around here has been yours…and what’s with this “we” shit, cupcake? You and your socks?

            And in closing, I’ll just point out, shitheel, that since I post on Wonkette all the time and YOU are a visitor, I’m in a FAR better position to say what the rules are around here. You’re in MY house, dickwad.

          • wyclif

            You still obviously don’t get it, because you don’t understand gun safety no matter how many times you bring up your imaginary cop “stepfather.” There is NOTHING, nothing at all unsafe or improper about Cruz’s carry in the photo that Kalili Joy was screeching about in the OP, the same screeching that you defended then and defend here.

            See, here’s the thing, you massive jackass. Some of the people who see the shit on this blog being generated by drooling, clicking chimpanzees like yourself actually know about the subject matter. And when a blog like Wonkette holds forth on subject matter that obviously have zero fucking clue about, and subsequently get called out on it, the best practise is to apologise immediately and retract the incorrect post, and go back to writing about same sex bathrooms or the Kardashians—subject matter that you’re actually qualified to comment on accurately.

            But that’s not what Wonkette did here. Little leftist shills in fedoras like you and Juan doubled down. That’s a huge mistake. You decided to dig the hole deeper and insist that, despite the gun being carried absolutely correctly, in field carry, broken, and with the empty breech visible, that there was some danger and that the gun was being waved around dangerously. You were roundly and justly ridiculed for doing stupid shit like that, and people made fun of you relentlessly in this thread and on social media. Here’s a representative Twitter thread under Wonkette’s original tweet of this phony “story”, which is still up. Note responding tweets. Almost *every single one* of them, even the left-of-centre tweets, makes fun of Wonkette for not knowing what the fuck they are talking about with regard to guns:

            https://twitter.com/Wonkette/status/662258185017925632

            Here’s a few representative reactions from people smarter than Wonkette’s “writers”:

            “I’m thinking we have to give you a failing grade on shotgun awareness.”

            “The breach is open and unloaded in the proper way to carry an over/under. But then you knew that…didn’t you?

            “Most libs are illogical, but this bunch is just plain stupid. Over and over and over.”

            “There’s no smug like ignorant smug.”

            “You guys aren’t very bright, are you? That is proper, safe way to carry a break action rifle. Your ignorance is breathtaking.”

            And on and on and on. Numerous people called out Wonkette on this, and they doubled down. As one of Wonkette’s trolls, you promptly came out from under your rock and defended this insipid ignorance and claimed it was correct! We laugh at you! Guffaws, sniggers, smirks! You are clowns popping out of your clown car.

            And all of this is why the quality of politics on the internet is so low. I lay the blame directly on easily manipulated muppets like you. You frankly don’t give a rat’s ass about what is true or not, all you care about it feebly trying to score political points—because you have no honour and no virtue. You’re scum. A despicable turd. A malignant cancer on the Internet. Reasonable people have nothing but utter contempt for gibbering morons like you.

          • jmk

            I don’t follow gunhumpers and ammosexuals and don’t give a fuck what tickles them or what they say about anything, just as I don’t pay attention to teenaged girls when they try to tell me about One Direction. Nothing you’ve burbled at me has caused me to rethink that position.

            My stepfather will be amused to find that he’s “imaginary.” Thank goodness his department doesn’t thinks so, because the retirement checks still arrive safely. I think says a lot that you can’t refute his comments so you have to claim he’s imaginary.

            I’m amused that you have the fucking crust to call ME a troll when the reality is that for the last 20 days or so, you have been stalking me on an thread related to a site I frequent and YOU do not. If I’m such a troll, you should be able to walk away easily. Please do so now, sea lion. Mas pronto.

            And the fact that you and all your pud-pulling peeps missed the point of the whole fucking post – which is that if Cruz wants to be a spokesman for ammosexuals, he should demonstrate concern for the NRA’s own rules of gun safety – doesn’t make you right… it makes you morans.

            The fact that a buffoon like yourself, who has engaged in nothing but lies, false assertions, and baseless insults throughout this entire tedious thread has either the absolute fucking nerve or the absolute fucking lack of self-awareness to say that I – who have posted nothing false and have backed up everything I’ve said – have no honor or virtue is incredible. Clearly, among the many things about which you have no clue, the definitions of honor and virtue are prominent.

            I’ve asked you REPEATEDLY to back up your claims about me with quotes or facts, and EVERY FUCKING TIME, you have responded with another insult and nothing else.

            You’re an arrogant, empty-headed, self-impressed, patronizing tool, a shitcrusted, ignorant, rageaholic douchebag with anger and self-adoration issues, an active imagination, and nothing else. Just fuck off back to your dudebros on 4chan and yank yourselves off some more and leave me the fuck alone. Seriously. Leave me the fuck alone.

          • wyclif

            Actually, I did back it up. I just got done telling you exactly why your incessant foaming over Cruz’s supposed “unsafe” handling of a firearm was completely incoherent and wrong. And you doubled down on it.

            You haven’t a fucking clue about firearms. So shut the fuck up about them, m’kay? You’ve completely embarrassed yourself. Stop shilling for this godawful stupidity.

            And by the way, I am getting the last word here. Not you. If you want to be “left alone”, then stop polluting the Internet and this thread with your disgusting garbage. Stop lying about people. Stop freaking out and going into a grand mal seizure online every time someone contradicts false information promulgated by you and your little troll friends. Nobody’s impressed. We laugh at you. You aren’t smart or subtle, you are an embarrassment to the other leftists on this blog who know when to shut up. If you had any virtue or honour, you would have written to Wonkette and asked them to take this ridiculously brain-dead post down. But you didn’t. You decided it was better to try and get into a fight with people who actually know something about firearms, and when they handed your ass to you, you cried like a baby. Now do yourself a favour and STFU and go back to the swamp you crawled out of. That’s what you’re going to have to do if you want to be “left alone.” Where I come from, you don’t start a fight with someone bigger than you and then cry that you’ve been bullied. Man up and bow out if you don’t like it.

          • wyclif

            Bingo. You did microaggress jmk, he’s a sensitive little flower.

            jmk, since he feels microaggressed and won’t take the hint to retreat to his free speech gazebo, is getting all the ridicule he deserves.

          • jmk

            Oh “he’s a sensitive little flower” is he?

            And it was always just about ethics in journalism to you, also too, wasn’t it?

          • wyclif

            If you weren’t a sensitive little flower, you wouldn’t go reflexively apeshit every time someone smarter than you points out your folly.

          • jmk

            Not seeing anyone smarter than I am in your posts or your little buddy’s posts, cupcake.

          • wyclif

            Blind as well then, jmk? Fitting.

          • jmk

            Not blind, cupcake… unimpressed by what you’ve brought to this apparently endless and endlessly tedious thread.

            So far, you’ve managed some weak-ass insults, not one of which landed, and you’ve made some assumptions about me, not one of which was actually true, as you ignored – not very adroitly – any request for you to back up your bullshit with facts or quotes or anything.

            So all I’m seeing is a lot of bitter hot air in the shape of a wyclif…and that’s not at all impressive.

          • wyclif

            Perhaps if you weren’t a halfwitted Gadarene swine, you’d be able to rise to my level of literacy. However, I find that possibility distinctly unlikely if you can’t grasp what’s wrong with the OP.

          • jmk

            Yes, cupcake…none of which landed. You see, this agitation you imagine I’m suffering exists only in your mind, just like your hilarious assertion that expecting someone to follow basic gun safety rules constitutes trying to “defend the indefensible.” No one on this thread has handed my ass or any other body part to me – certainly not you, since, as I read your flapdoodle, I’m little more than bored and disgusted in turns. I keep responding because you brought your bullshit and your inability to read or think logically onto a site I frequent, and I try to keep a clean house.

            And “Gadarene swine”? LOL Seriously? I know that reference must have looked impressive to you wherever it was you first saw it and from which you copied it, but sorry, cupcake, it’s not apropos…and it’s not even a good story, as Russell points out.

          • wyclif

            The fact that you had to look it up before you understood what it meant only proves my point. You’ve been owned. Not a little. A lot.

            And doubling down on K-Joy’s copy-of-a-copy of this stupidity not only means you’re a mental derelict, but you don’t even have the intellectual coordinaton to notice when fate quietly slipped lead into the boxing-glove and knocked you flat on your ridiculous ass.

          • jmk

            Ummm… who said I had to look it up?

            And tell me exactly what is mentally “derelict” about saying people should follow gun safety rules? My stepfather doesn’t find it to be “stupidity” or “derelict” and he’s a retired cop who still holds “sharpshooter” certification.

            And do tell… where did I demonstrate lack of “intellectual coordinaton [sic]”? Quote me. Go on.

          • wyclif

            I said you had to look it up, you prolix douchenozzle. There is no “gun safety rule” that Cruz violated. Stop being a fucking idiot.

    • Draco

      I thought the same thing about that shotgun, and that this post is going to make Wonkette look overly obsessed with guns and really dumb. The former just plays into the stereotype and does nothing to help the cause, and the latter is not usually the case.

      A correction should be posted.

  • SuspectedDemocrat

    I think the 2nd A is fucking stupid and all semi-autos should be banned (except for police), so that gun is one of the few I don’t have a problem with. And yes, the firing pin is away from the shells. But keep the barrel pointed down just on general principle. People behind you might feel better not looking down a 12 gauge barrel.

  • Vecciojohn

    Ready, fire, aim.

  • maman

    I was taught that guns were to be treated like knives and scissors. Point the business end down when not in use.

  • TheBidenator

    Hey guys don’t insult Elmer Fudd by comparing him to Ted Cruz….Elmer is a lot smarter and far less annoyingly smug and arrogant plus his voice doesn’t make you want to punch yourself in the face because you cannot punch him. What animated character is Ted Cruz really like?

    • calliecallie

      He looks a bit like Yogi Bear, but Yogi’s too sweet and loveable to be played by Ted Cruz. Tasmanian Devil, maybe?

    • Vecciojohn
    • Joe Beese

      ..

    • Vecciojohn

      Eric Cartman?

    • Gleem-McShinez

      Mostly because of texture, I’d guess Squidbillies

      • Leema Raven

        Early Cuyler, for sure.

        Fruit don’t talk, fruit just listens… and waits.”

        • aureolaborealis

          Except that I can watch Early Cuyler on the teevee without yelling at it.

      • TheBidenator

        What about Tim Curry’s character from “Fern Gully”? I vaguely remember that movie but he’s like a singing evil conglomerate of noxious chemicals…
        He could be the grandma on Squidbillies, though and Chris Christie is Crystal…

  • calliecallie

    Shouldn’t he be pointing that thing at a copy of the Obamacare legislation?

    • tihond

      Rand Paul already shot all of them.

  • Joe Beese

    You want to know how the dick-lickers at Red State – who lurve them some Cruz – defend this, don’t you?

    “[Cruz] is not “pointing” the shotgun at anything. His finger is not on the trigger. The weapon is obviously unloaded. There is not [sic] target. And the environment is not on a range or while hunting.”

    So 3 of the 4 cardinal rules of gun safety don’t apply here because… liberal media, I guess.

    • Zippy

      those dumb fuckers would all get their asses 86’d from any decent range.

      “[Cruz] is not “pointing” the shotgun at anything. How the fuck does he know? He doesn’t have eyes in the back of his head.

      His finger is not on the trigger Doesn’t matter, the weapon cocks when the action is closed. All it takes is one overlooked chambered round…

      The weapon is obviously unloaded Not so obvious to anyone standing behind him.

      There is not [sic] target. And the environment is not on a range or while hunting.” Scant comfort to the poor fucker who gets shot. Nobody cares if it’s a range or not when the stray bullets fly

  • Lizzietish81

    The only person allowed an over the shoulder shot gun blast is Ash.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1cj1YDVffc

    • elpinche

      Did you see the new Ash vs Evil show?

      • Lizzietish81

        I DID! And it was awesome

        • elpinche

          Indeed it was. How are they going keep the pacing from the first eppie? It was like a 43 min movie.

          • Lizzietish81

            I am a bit nervous since Sam Raimi did Spiderman.

            Otoh, I noticed a lot of the same names from Xena (including the warrior princess herself) so that’s a good sign.

            Just keep Rene O’Conner the fuck away.

      • sw19womble

        What… whaaat??? :)

  • tihond

    The last debate should be all of the candidates deer hunting with Limbaugh and Hannity. It would probably clear the field a bit… with votes.

    • BadKitty904

      Watching the Koch Klown Kollege Klass of ’16 out huntin’ with Pumbaa and Timon WOULD at least generate some laffs…

    • Vicious Babushka

      They should go shooting with Dick Cheney.

  • cheetojeebus

    Seems early in the process to trot out the hunting bonafides, I suppose if he makes it to the general (shudder) he’ll be touting his recreational Howitzer firing hobby.

  • Frank Booth

    You stupid fucks. He had the breech open which was clearly showing the empty chambers to the camera. Even if he chambers had shells in them the gun is completely incapable of discharging while in this configuration. It is a perfectly acceptable way to carry a shotgun. Liberals should keep their man-pleasers shut when it comes to gun. You just embarrass yourselves everytime.

    • Lizzietish81

      Greatest hits from this guy…

      “And now the Jews want to take away our guns. “It’s the circle of life”….”

      Hahaha, ok dude.

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      Oh if the gun’s unloaded you don’t have to treat it like it’s loaded. That’s like rule #1.

      • Joe Beese

        You don’t expect him to get to the end of rule 1, do you?

        tl; dr

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Frank, you’re a fucktard. No other way to explain it.

    • Zippy

      You stupid fuck, no one behind him can see that open breach, nor can they see if a there’s an overlooked chambered round. Anyone who isn’t dumb as dirt knows that this is NOT acceptable gun etiquette. leave it to you jackasses to disregard the rules and make excuses for this clown just because you want to have his babbies

    • Leema Raven

      Wascally Wabbit

    • Lizzietish81

      Ah, Frank Booth, Dennis Hopper’s vagina viewing hyperventilating freak, apparently is a huge Breitbart fan.

      Spoiler: Breitburt is still dead.

      • jmk

        A quick glance at ol’Frankie’s comment history reveals a textbook over-compensater.

    • elpinche

      I’m surprised you didn’t call anyone a queer or faggot. It’s like you’re obsessed with hot blood-packed vein-lathened hard liberal cock.

      • Zippy

        they’re all dying to come out of the closet and experience that forbidden lust they keep dreaming about while mechanically missionary positioning the wife that they can’t stand touching anymore

        • elpinche

          Frank Booth waits till the beard goes to sleep then fingerbangs his asshole while watching Matt Bomer make out/fuck another gorgeous look alike man on American Horror Story. Not like I know or anything. Just saying ..ahem.

      • MrBlobfish

        You’re the real queer or faggot for pointing that out.

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      Use of the term “man-pleasers” is sufficient warning not to embarrass oneself.

      • Sheepshagger

        It’s what all rough tough heteros call the mouth- that’s not gay at all, right?

      • Objectifer

        Man-pleasers is the new pissflaps.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Look, I know squat about guns. Maybe you’re right. But why you gotta be a dick about it, man? Why not just point out the mistake, and perhaps suggest that, in our zeal, we might be overlooking something?

      I troll Breitbart, etc., so I know what it is to be in (rhetorically) enemy territory. But I am polite when I do so. You should be too, young man.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        “Not being a dick” is just not part of the makeup of the ammosexual. It’s all about dicks. It’s like a joke about machismo; some guy lines up 10 women to have sex with, does the act with the first nine, but then can’t deliver on the tenth, and the crowd shouts “maricon!” at him.

      • elpinche

        I hunt and i own some guns. However, I do not make sweet love to them or obsess about them in any way. With that said, you never hold a firearm like that. The barrel should never face anyone no matter the state of chamber. So Frank is full of shit, and Ted Cruz is a dangerous moron. Franky gets his firearm experience from Arnold Scharwhatever movies.

        • chicken thief

          Who is the barrel facing? (Serious question, I didn’t watch the vid.)

          I’ve hunted all my life (and marched at shoulder arms in the military) and think the method shown is just fine. It isn’t the only way to carry it, but it’s fine.

      • SnarkTank

        “All you motherfuckers are gonna pay. You are the ones who are the ball-lickers! We’re gonna fuck your mothers while you watch and cry like little, whiny bitches. Once we get to Hollywood and find those Miramax fucks who is makin’ the movie… we’re gonna make them eat our shit, then shit out our shit, and then eat their shit that’s made up of our shit that we made ’em eat. Then you’re all you motherfucks are next. Love- Jay and Silent Bob.”

    • Spotts1701

      Really, it’s acceptable? Not according to most gun safety sites.

      “The shoulder carry balances the rifle on your shoulder, controlling the firearm by a hand on the grip. Always keep your finger off the trigger and on the outside of the trigger guard. This is a good carry when walking beside or behind others. It is not a good carry if others are behind you.

    • Vecciojohn

      Well hush my man-pleaser, Mr. Booth, I declare! If you aren’t a big, strapping man! Won’t you come up to my place and teach me how to handle my weapon?

      • chicken thief

        Rule #1: Don’t try to squeeze it into your bra holster or it might discharge accidentally.

    • Gleem-McShinez

      Funny, I’ve noticed that too.
      Ted Cruz is always showing his empty chamber to the cameras, pretty much every time he speaks.

    • Enfant Terrible

      Ding! Ding! Ding! Our featured attraction for next Sunday’s “Dear Shit fer Brains” post!

      Frank, Frank, is your attention span long enough to read Rule #1 all the way to the end?

    • mardam422

      So, what you’re saying is that rule number 1 isn’t really a rule? Just askin’.

    • jmk

      Ooooohhhhh Frankie!! Please sling more gendered insults our way to eliminate any fucking doubt that you ammosexual assholes love your guns as penis extensions more than anything else.

      And see you this weekend on Dear Shit Fer Brains!! Be sure to tune in – you’ll be featured!

      • Frank Booth

        Would you prefer “transgendered” insults, freak? You vermin probably would, considering you likely are posting while wearing a set of panties.

        • jmk

          Please, Franklekins… do tell us more about how you hate and despise women and anything associated with them, and how you think they are inferior to you.

          And then please do continue your tradition of posting comments that focus ever so lingeringly on your descriptions of what the hard, manly men you clearly admire – manly, manly men who are tough and rough and manly in a manly rough, tough way – do.

          Maybe someday, if you keep posting your fantasies, one of them will take you in his manly-man sinewy arms, roughly, and kiss you in a tough, manly way, and treat you the way you so obviously are screaming out to be treated.

    • Skwerl King

      See rule #1.

    • chicken thief

      Even though I agree with you that this is an acceptable way to carry a shotgun, I am disappointed that you didn’t use any CAPS LOCK.

  • MrBlobfish

    Remember when responsible gun owners were laughing at Obama shooting a gun? Has anyone ever seen Ted fire a gun? Or is he just like those posers that walk around holding their skateboards but never seen riding them?

    • tihond

      I bet Marco Rubio gleemed a cube once or twice.

      • chicken thief

        ‘a cube’?! Is that what the kids are calling a micro-peen these days?

    • Lizzietish81

      I think that was the bacon thing.

      • SuspectedDemocrat

        Which, to them, is somehow not as ridiculous as handling a firearm properly. He’s going for the “Hold my beer and watch this!” vote.

    • SterWonk

      When he was making breakfast that one time?

  • Vicious Babushka

    But but but Dana “I Love Guns More Than Anything Else In The Whole Wide World & I Know More About Guns Than You Can Ever Hope To Learn In A Bazillion Lifetimes!!!!!” says that the people at IndefinitelyWild are “Idiots”

    Dana knows TEH MOAST ABOUT ALL TEH GUNZ so there, checkmate, owned Libtard!

  • Dolmance

    I’m okay! Nothing to worry about! I’m fine! Gnaa gnaa gnaa! Gnaa gnaa gnaa!

  • Thaumaturgist

    Did Dick Cheney care?

    • Enfant Terrible

      Not after getting apologized to by his victim.

  • DahBoner

    I’m not surprised passionate gun owners think gun safety rules don’t apply to them

    Every 11 year old wants to stay up past their bedtime…

    https://media0.giphy.com/media/zLzYoCaosU8dW/200w_d.gif

  • LarryHoudini

    Hey Libs—want my gun? YOU CAN PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS, after I accidentally shoot myself. Please give it to my three-year-old son, he would love it.
    TED CRUZ/SHREDDED GUN SAFETY MANUAL, 2016

    • Enfant Terrible

      “Please give it to my three-year-old son, he would love it.”

      After reloading and taking the safety off, obvs.

  • SnarkTank

    Oh, the Dear Shit fer Brains is gonna be FUUUUUUUUUUUN this week! Almost makes me wish comments were allowed!

    • DemmeFatale

      OMG, yes.
      The ammosexuals are always spoiling for a fight, and seem to have lots of free time.

    • Jan_in_the_pan

      Dok definitely has his work cutout for him.

  • Ryan Denniston

    “Because this lady shot herself dead with a gun she had “secured” in her bra holster”
    Does God count that one as a suicide?

    • chicken thief

      Either way she’s tits up. Too soon?

      • Ryan Denniston

        Hope not, I felt kinda bad snarking. But seriously, you could go to hell for shooting yourself might actually work to deter ownership of guns.

  • Logic of Color

    The commenters over at TPM are saying that he actually is holding the over-under shotgun properly. Not being a gun guy myself I don’t know.

    • Objectifer

      Breech open, check
      Chambers clear, check.
      Slung over shoulder, not so much.

    • chicken thief

      I can’t tell if the shotgun is unloaded (and have no intention of watching the vid) but if it is, the way he is carrying it is fine – no shells in the chambers and the breach open.

      • Zippy

        no shells in the chambers and the breach open.

        you can’t tell either of those things if you’re behind him. I’ll be damned if I’ll entrust that sort of thing to someone else- point that gun barrel down or elbow carry it, so I don’t have to wonder

        • Logic of Color

          Good point. As someone below posted, surrounding people don’t know that the barrels are empty and if behind may not see that the action is broken. Maybe they’ll shoot back in “self defense”.

          • Zippy

            it’s simply courtesy- don’t make me have to guess whether or not you properly cleared the chamber. Don’t point it at me and it won’t matter if you did screw up- it only take once…

        • chicken thief

          Zippy, there is no one behind him. Let’s not change the situation.

          Mentally picture soldiers marching at right shoulder arms.

          • Zippy

            No one behind him- this time- at the moment the photo was taken. Bad habits lead to accidents, that’s why you always follow the rules, so that it’s automatic. Also Ted Cruz is no trained soldier and he’s not marching in formation- that’s apples and oranges compared to a bunch of good old boys tromping through a field.

          • chicken thief

            Let’s not change the rules or the situation just because we hate Ted Cruz. There are plenty of reasons why he sucks, I just think this is reaching a tad.

        • chicken thief

          Sorry for the delayed response, but if he was walking down the street I would agree with you. But he isn’t, he’s walking in a field with other people that KNOW he has a shotgun and they probably have shotguns also too*. That’s why you walk side by side, not single file and you certainly wouldn’t walk behind him without moving the muzzle away from you or telling him to do it.

          *Or it was a photo op only and no one had any shells.

          Both I and plenty of others that I’ve hunted with carried shotguns the same way when we were side by side in an open field. Not always – tucking the butt in your armpit and draping the barrel over your arm pointing basically to the ground works also too (with the breach open), but it wasn’t unusual or eyebrow raising in any way when we did.

          I’ll just kind of wrap it up by saying that with all the truly egregious things we can hate Ted for, focusing on this minor, if that, transgression is really picking nits.

      • sw19womble

        chicken thief – you may be right, you may not – the important thing is we have at least 8 congressional hearings to discover just what Cruz did or didn’t know about firearm safety, at the time this happened.

        • chicken thief

          And another 8 or so to get to the bottom of what the fuck he puts in his hair.

    • Zippy

      No, it’s all too common, but it’s not proper. Never assume a gun is unloaded. Never point it anywhere but down or at the target. This is basic stuff- many people get sloppy, because it’s fairly obvious that the gun isn’t cocked or loaded, but fairly doesn’t count. The rule is- always follow the rules, no matter how pedantic it may seem. That’s the only way you’ll never have to say the words “I thought it was unloaded”

    • Skwerl King
      • elpinche

        Ding ding! Bingo.

      • Logic of Color

        Cool picture. Zat you?

      • btwbfdimho

        Mmmm, I’d trust him with that gun. If we become roommates, I’d glad hung from the front door of the house: “We Have Guns, We Don’t Call 911”.

      • Gristle McThornbody

        Thanks for that. I was wondering why he was carrying it wrong, since the gun was, um, whatever you call it when the barrel is open from the firing mechanism. Damnit, will someone tell me the proper terminology for that?

        Nevermind. I read it in another comment – breach open.

      • jack_o_bee4u

        I’d vote for this very handsome gun model over Cruz any day.

    • elpinche

      No, eyes ALWAYS on the barrel and the barrel should NEVER point at anyone no matter what. Cruz is doing a action movie stance. He’s mentally challenged and should never be allowed to handle firearms.

  • MrBlobfish

    If you want to look really cool, Ted, you got to wear your hat backwards. You’ll never get to be Speaker of the House looking like that.

    • elpinche

      Cruz is so dumb, I wouldn’t let him lift weights with Paul Ryan.

  • jiminwi

    He should go hunting with Dick Cheney. Any luck at all neither would survive.

    • Hutch

      I loved the headline then, “Cheney Shot a Guy in the Face.” Nuff said.

  • george gonzalez

    Ted, it takes about 5 seconds, five times as long as it takes you to pick what off-topic rant you’re going to respond with at a debate, ten times as long as it takes people to decide your face is oh-so-punchable (with votes). Perhaps next time do the old crack-thunk maneuver and I don’t mean the Catholic-approved one.

  • elpinche

    Rule 0.Never ever ever let Ted Cruz handle firearms.

    • Msgr_Moment

      Rule 5: No poofters.

      • bozilingus

        Is your name Bruce?

        • Msgr_Moment

          G’day!

  • kaw143

    Yes, but Dick Cheney taught the gun safety course Cruz took.

  • btwbfdimho

    How long before Dr. Carson says something like:
    “It’s important to remember that if people had guns in the World Trade Center, many of them would be alive today.”
    That sounds too crazy, but what about: “If people in those airplanes had guns, there would be no 9/11 !”
    That’s the point when the logic of gun ownership an open carry crashes with itself, because YOU CAN C THAT GUNS ONBOARD would make your fly a real adventure.
    But kindergarten teachers carrying guns in class, yes, that’s ok for the frontrunner Dr. Carson.

  • ImpureScience

    If I were President I actually would be coming for their guns.

    • btwbfdimho

      Yes, right, when it was last time a non-black president went to Dallas from Fort Worth, TX?

    • btwbfdimho

      Here’s Obama coming after your guns in Texas.

  • anon_the_great

    Or here’s an idea. Stop using weapons as props.

    • btwbfdimho

      Me, right now, I’m Pro-Crastination, but I may change my mind…

    • chicken thief

      That’s no prop – he was out hunting. For his long form US Birth certifikut.

    • wyclif

      Here’s another idea: stop being a prolix douchenozzle.

  • FlownOver

    Hunter Orange is the new Derp.

  • chicken thief

    If Ted is fucking up, so is every color guard ever.

    • Sue4466

      Usually the guns carried by color guards are props (fake) or disabled.

      • chicken thief

        The ones I carried were real. And loaded with blanks if a salute was called for.

        • jack_o_bee4u

          “Loaded with blanks” seems to be the operative language you’re glossing over here.

          • chicken thief

            I’m not glossing over anything. Blanks can kill/maim/put yer eye out and these guys are in a way more congested area.

          • SuspectedDemocrat

            There was a guy in an 1980s TV show who had a prop .357 loaded with blanks. As a joke he put it to his temple and pulled the trigger. Then they had to cancel the show because its costar was dead.

          • chicken thief

            THAT’S THE GUY!

          • SuspectedDemocrat
        • Rasilom

          Be aware that even blanks can kill if the range is close enough. That is how Brandon Lee was killed. Shot himself with a blank.

          • chicken thief

            Most certainly. There was another actor killed with a blank fired from a gun. Handsome dude, played a cowboy turned model in a tv movie, but I fergit his name.

          • riledupone

            Jon-Erik Hexum, I believe.

      • SullivanSt

        But never are they carried broken, like Ted’s appears to be clearly is here.

        I love a good “{insert Republican here} is a total fuckup” story at least as much as the next guy (only last week I was literally yelling at my boss for trying to defend Carson on Mannatech), but this just isn’t one.

    • Lizzietish81

      That’s pointing up though, not directly behind you.

      • SK

        What if it is Ben Carson, up the flag pole, taking down the Confederate Flag?

        Just kidding, Ben Carson won’t be taking down any Confederate flags.

      • chicken thief

        45 degrees vs 30 or so? I agree Ted is a douche, but we are reaching here is all I’m saying.

  • Constant Gardener

    Ted Cruz is a douchenozzle who sucks Jesusballs, but not because he’s holding an over-under broken open with empty chambers. That’s the kind of thing that might get you admonished on the trap field, but isn’t going to raise a lot of eyebrows in a cornfield.

  • crunchyknee

    I know for a fact that Jesus carried his gun the same way Cruz is carrying his.

    • chicken thief

      That’s the only way to carry one, really. Like a cross, over the shoulder.

      • Msgr_Moment

        Gladly the Glock I’d bear.

    • Cheney too.

  • Rasilom

    Ok I think you all know me well enough by know to know that I am not a stupid crazy Gun Humper nor Ammosexual. I have many times posted about stupid gun laws and raged for much stricter control. In all fairness, not that that sad sack of idiocy deserves it, the way he is holding that weapon is not really a problem. If you look you will see that it is “Broken” open. That type of shot gun has the stock fold down away from the breach to load the weapon. the way he is holding it there is no physical way for the firing mechanism to reach much less fire a shell. You can also see that the weapon is not loaded by looking at the breach ends of the barrel (the end facing you in the photo.) If the breach was closed and he was holding the firearm that way it would be Wrong Wrong Wrong. But the way he is holding it, while he looks stupid, he is not necessarily being unsafe with the weapon.

    • SullivanSt

      What’s more, even if by some inconceivable set of circumstances a shell was present and did go off, if wouldn’t go anywhere because there’s no seal at the back of the barrel to direct the explosive force forward. Might burn the hell out of Cruz’s face, but nobody in the farmhouse is in the remotest bit of danger.

      • sw19womble

        At least there’s a positive to all this.

      • La Cieca

        So, win-win?

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Who among us hasn’t blamed a black guy after shooting oneself in the pecker?

    • Mintie

      I don’t have a pecker, so . . .

      • SK

        …well, you can shoot Cruz’s pecker off if you like. I won’t judge. Heck, it does not even have to be accidental.

        • Mintie

          True, but then I’d have to look at it in order to accidentally aim properly.

        • jmk

          You would have to find it first.

          Check with Charles or David Koch.

      • John Smith

        Shot it off, did ya?

        • Msgr_Moment

          Thanks, Obama!

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        It is kind of a guy thing.

  • SK

    Where is Ben Carson when you really need him as a prop?

    • doktorzoom

      No, that’s not really acceptable. Review the rules, please.

  • John Hollingsworth

    Rules? For guns? Easy there comrade, this is the US of A, land of the free, not some hippie dippie socialist commune where people have to worry about things like ‘safety’ and ‘responsibility’

  • Tom Ford

    What Would Jesus Carry?

    • Rasilom

      A G.E Minigun of course…

      • The Wanderer

        G.E. – we bring good things to death.

  • Hutch

    One of you guys commented that Cruz’s hips are wider than his shoulders (and I snickered myself silly). He obviously has a screwed up center of gravity and cannot control a gun barrel. The man’s a clear and present danger.

  • jamesdowd

    Me: Liberal. Bernie Supporter. Wonkatoon. Member of squishy liberal Jewishperson temple where there is yoga and bookreadings. NPR donor. College radio supporter. All this- mkay? That’s a fine way to carry THAT shotgun. Not any other type, but because of the way it breaks open it’s safer than carrying a dead raccoon. Please, don’t give them stuff to use agianst us.

    • bluicebank

      Correct. A double-barreled shotgun (either side-by-side or over-under) that is broken open is fine to carry that way. It’s the same, safety-wise, as a revolver with its cylinder popped open.

    • Erick the Kracker

      I was thinking the same thing. Not good practice, but not unsafe for that gun either. I gave up hunting years ago when a.) My grandparents sold their farm and 2.) Got shot at hunting (with permission) on someone else’s land. Too many unsafe hunters out there for money.
      And yes, my liberal bona fides align with yours. Ted Cruz is still a dick, though.

      • jamesdowd

        he’s a raging treatment-resistant cock-fungus of epic proportions.

    • WetButtsDriveMeNuts

      Yeah, same boat. Liberal as shit, and usually I’m comfortable with any sort of anti-gun raging, but it’s a break-action shotgun, open, unloaded, and his finger is off the trigger. I don’t get any of this. You can tell it’s unloaded because you can see right the hell through it!

      In the video, you see him never pointing his gun at anyone, and even handling it by the grip, pointed towards the sky, because even if he fired off both rounds, its just good form.

  • Msgr_Moment

    Poor Mr. Glock. I know how embarrassing that is. Just last week I was telling my class about Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, and how I was the only person I knew who was authorized to… Well, of course that’s when the wormhole opened up and I landed in your universe. At least that is what I tell this woman who thinks I’m her husband.

    • Barley_Brains

      Welcome! Make yourself at home! Go to church, shoot yourself in the foot, marry a gay person of a similar sex and have an abortion!

      This is America, baby!

      • Blue

        Remind him to eat something deep fried, too.

  • thewitchqueen74

    Whether he’s carrying it wrong or not, I think we can all agree that Ted Cruz is a smarmy fucking douchebag of epic proportions whose face just begs to be punched.

    • idalily

      Actually no, we DON’T all agree on that.

      • thewitchqueen74

        Okay. Do you support him?

        • idalily

          If he wins the nomination, absolutely.

      • thewitchqueen74

        I wasn’t counting wingnuts.

        • idalily

          Neither was I. It’s clear we also don’t agree on who the wingnuts are.

  • jmk
  • LarkintheAM

    Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

    Never point a firearm at something you’re not willing to destroy.

    Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.

    Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

    These are the rules. At all times, these are the rules. Even if you think you know better. Even if you are a licensed firearm instructor. Even if you are so sure that gun isn’t loaded. Even if you are positive you’re the only living creature within a 100-mile radius. Even if you’re certain it’s set to safety. Even if you’ve been shooting guns since you were knee-high. Even if, always if, every single time.

    ^^^^^^^This, THIS, seventy-eleven squadzillion times THIS!!!!!!!!!

    If anyone from my family had seen that idiot carrying a firearm like that, he’d have been disarmed before he could blink, and the damned thing confiscated until he could demonstrate that he understands the rules backwards, forwards and upside down. Normally, I wouldn’t care if Ted Cruz shot himself in the balls or any other appendage, but there are far too fucking many people wandering around this country who have guns who haven’t a clue and innocent bystanders are paying the price of their ignorance. If I were Queen of the Universe, no one would be allowed to possess a gun until they 1) could recite the rules in their sleep, 2) had proof of purchase of a gun safe, 3) had passed a firearms safety course with a score of 100% on a comprehensive exam and 4) posted a $1M surety bond to cover the possibility that they might be irresponsible some day and clean their gun while loaded, leave it lying around for some child to find or get stolen, or pull some other Stupid Human Trick. So, Rafael, go find another, less lethal toy you know nothing about to play with.

    • The Wanderer

      If I had been caught mishandling a shotgun like that in front of my father, he would have broken it over my head.

    • Vegan and Tiara

      I’d pay to see Ted Cruz shoot himself in the balls.

  • NotHardly

    I don’t think you all are actually looking at the picture. It is an open breach with no shells in the chambers, so, there is no way he could have shot anyone … no shells = no bullets, as it were. The gun cannot fire while the breach is open … so, point # 2. Lastly, his fingers are not near the triggers, period. What the hell is everyone jumping on this picture for … it shows a perfectly good way of meeting all the rule requirements noted. Geeze, he’s a douche, I get it but if you are going to jump on someone, maybe you ought to be sure its a ‘jumpable’ moment.

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      Picture? I thought there was an entire video?

      • NotHardly

        A video has pictures … thus, look at the picture(s)

      • OneDemin EOr

        There’s a linky to the CNN video, which I could only watch with the sound off.
        The guy is the second coming of Joe McCarthy, I tell you.

        • riledupone

          His closing line in the vid I saw was, ” Let’s go kill some more birds!”
          How butch!

    • dshwa

      “Treat all guns as if they are loaded” Seems pretty clear that even if the gun couldn’t fire (Or shouldn’t fire) under the circumstances, you still act as if it could.

      • NotHardly

        The point being is that he is treating it properly … last step would be to put it back in the case. He’s a terrible politician but if you are going to attack him then do it on something real as opposed to getting one’s hair on fire because they don’t know sh*t about weapons and cannot look to see.

        • dshwa

          Right. Because nobody who ever accidentally shot someone else / themselves did it while being sure they’d done all the steps to incapacitate the gun’s ability to fire.
          Sure, it’s not capable of firing in this particular case, but what about the time he gets distracted, thinks he’s taken it apart, and is waving it around in the same manner? That’s why the rule is ALWAYS treat it like it’s loaded, because the lack of care when your certain it’s unloaded/incapacitated can spill over into a lack of care when it’s not but you think it is. So yes, he does deserve criticism for this.

          • Vegan and Tiara

            Why do you hate America and freedom?

          • NotHardly

            You have no idea about that which you rant.

          • dshwa

            If you say so. I read neurology for fun and psychology for work, so I think I’ve got a pretty good grip on human behavior. Feel free to disagree, I understand exactly why you do.

        • Relativicus
    • Playonwords

      One day the breech will not be clear and carrying the weapon like in the Cruz style means you cannot see that.

  • azeyote

    i thought the black guy with a gun was supposed to intimidate everyone –

  • The Wanderer

    Cruz is about as ‘pro-life’ as Dr. Mengele. He only cares about life until the kid’s out of the womb, he advocates the death penalty, he’s staked out a completely asinine position on firearms, and he’s in favor of dirty air, foul water and poisoned earth.

  • ENDIF

    It pisses you off because you have no clue what you’re talking about.

    I loathe Cruz, et al. I loathe people that are negligent in handling their firearms. I white knuckled my way through the video.

    This is not negligent handling. This is standard procedure for a break action shotgun.

    Everyone can see that the breach is empty and open. The worst he can do with it is whack someone in the eye socket with the barrel. Or bore them to death.

    • Relativicus

      You are very wrong. Here, let this guy tell you:

      http://indefinitelywild.gizmodo.com/hey-ted-cruz-youre-holding-your-gun-backwards-1740325931

      Or if that doesn’t satisfy you, let these folks help:

      http://www.nssf.org/safety/basics/ (See 1)

      And you should consider having a clue if you’re going to tell others they have no clue.

      • Juan de Fuca

        I’m beginning to think left wing gun nuts are about as annoying as right wing gun nuts.

        • proudgrampa

          Gun nuts are gun nuts.

          • Juan de Fuca

            I’m more than a little amazed at how many people don’t even understand basic gun safety and practices – “Well, it was unloaded, the chamber was clear, Kaili” – seriously? In the video one can clearly see Cruz waving the barrel of the shotgun around carelessly at people standing just far enough behind him that they don’t know if it was cleared or not. We raise infants to never point plastic guns at people. It may be a moot point to some but in real life people get killed every single day over the same type of careless/moot points. People crack me up on all sides of the politicial spectrum when it comes to gun safety. I blame the Army.

          • Rasilom

            And if you look right behind Krudz you can clearly see another shot gunner holding his weapon the same way. The thing is this, that style shotgun actually IS the exception to that rule about where the barrel points when carried over the shoulder like this. . It is VERY common practice to carry one that way. Some carry barrels forward facing down others with the barrels over the shoulder holding the stock like Krudz did. It is easy to see even from a distance that that the weapon is in a “Broken ” position no matter which way it is carried. And as another commenter pointed out, even if there was a shell in the shotgun, that somehow managed to go off with the breach open, it would do more damage to him holding the gun than anyone around him. Basic physics. Instead of the back of the shell being held in place and the full force of the charge driving the pellets out the barrel, the shell would have been shot backwards out of the breach while still discharging. This would lead to some fairly nasty powder burns on his part and almost no distance and almost zero penetration for the pellets that actually made it out of the barrel. And this assumes that shells could actually stay in the barrel, as at the angle he is holding the gun they would have fallen out. Shells are not a tight fit in a shot gun, they need to easily drop in, after they have been discharged there is a mechanism in this type of shotgun to extract the spent shells. So bitch all you want, but this rabid, crazy, gun control freak, gun owner can find nothing wrong with what he is doing with the shotgun, With his life and his political views, well just don’t get me started cause he is a total DOUCHE.

          • Juan de Fuca

            What style shotgun are you referring to? An over/under? Not-so-funny-story told short, I almost killed a high school classmate and fellow F’Ball teammate of mine who took me grouse hunting in North Carolina back in my teenage days while he was teaching me how to fire his .410. Almost shot him through the torso. Never forgot that moment and never forgot the importance of never pointing a weapon anywhere except for the ground or away from anything in shooting range. I taught my daughter how to shoot at 13 and bought her first .22 long rifle when she was 14. I keep all weapons in my house with the bolts removed. Waving the barrel of any rifle or shotgun (loaded or not) around without knowing where it’s pointed at – very bad practice.

          • Rasilom

            Juan, I am not trying to be a dick, nor am I trying to down play what happened to you. I store my own firearms the same way. I also agree with you 100% on ALL of the gun regulation stuff. The thing is this. If you were holding your friends over/under the same way as Krudz is there is absolutely 0.000000% chance in all of the FSM’s 3.14159 hell’s that you could have almost shot your friend. It IS a safe way to hold a Broken open and unloaded Break action Shotgun. That is all I am talking about. Loaded with the breach closed, YES he should be castrated for that, but what he is doing is not wrong, just tasteless because “Campaign Add”. Making a major deal out of something like this is the type of crap that the Actual, Real, Wack job, Wingnut, Gun Humping, Ammosexual uses to scream “Stupid Liberlz!1!1!1!!, you just want er Gunz!!” If the breach was closed and he was waving it around like his dick then I agree, burn his ass. But he wasn’t. Lets keep focus on the real problems and try real hard to not sound like a pack of rabid gun grabbers. All I’m sayin. .

          • bobbert

            To me, it seems like the issue here is “Rule 1”. Do we follow Rule 1, or do we allow exceptions when we’re sure it doesn’t matter? If I know I unloaded my revolver, can I point it at people?

            I guess I’m just a Rule 1 purist.

          • proudgrampa

            Juan, let me tell you a story. True, by the way.
            I was a proudchild. About 9 or 10. I was playing with my DART GUN. I had forgotten that I had put a DART in the fuckin DART GUN. So I was running through the house and my Mom was watching TV in the family room. I ran into the family room and I said, “Hey, Mom!” I pulled this fuckin DART GUN out of the holster and pulled the trigger, forgetting that there was a fuckin DART in the fuckin DART GUN. I missed my mother’s eye by about 6 inches. To this day, damn near 50 years later, I have never forgotten that. ANYONE can make a mistake that they will regret for the rest of their life.

    • Juan de Fuca

      “This is not negligent handling. This is standard procedure for a break action shotgun.”
      Not where I come from. I’ve spent most of my life around firearms and hunted more than a few times as a younger man with friends who were advid hunters; one of the earliest rules I learned was to not carry a break action like that and if you wanted to look like John Wayne, to stay far back on the trail. Very bad practice, in my book.

      • Playonwords

        Lots of upfists for this. The fore-end should always be in hand so the gun user can see the breech is clear.

  • To be fair, we also had a vice-president who shot a guy on purpose.

    If only Cheney had actually killed him, Harry Whittington would be on the $10 bill now.

    • Vegan and Tiara

      You think Cheney shot that guy in the face on purpose? What makes you think that? Not that I’d be shocked if Cheney did shoot someone on purpose, but I’m curious as to why you think that.

      • stevola

        Aaron Burr killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel.

        • Vegan and Tiara

          D’Oh!

    • D_C_Wilson

      I’m still amazed that Cheney got Harry to apologize to HIM for shooting him in the face.

      • freshwaterdrum

        Thank you for mentioning that detail. For me, it was a chilling reminder of how much power that guy wielded in those circles.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      I don’t think he shot him on purpose. Cheney was hammered from lunch. Alcohol and gunpowder, like alcohol and gasoline, do not mix.

  • TootsStansbury

    I didn’t watch. Not because he’s treating a gun like a prop but because I can’t stand the sound of his voice.

  • mosjef

    We have already accepted into evidence video of this Presidential Candidate cooking bacon on the end of an automatic weapon, have we not? So all this talk about whether the shotgun he’s waving around is loaded is irrelevant to the court. It’s like have a picture of a convicted pedophile priest palling around with a 6 year old boy, and you’re telling me the priest isn’t molesting the boy in this picture. The court doesn’t give a shit, OK? Guilty.

    • Rasilom

      And truth be told there was actually nothing wrong with his bacon stunt either. It was done at an actual range with proper weapon handling. Now I will grant you it was stupid as one really should not eat the shit that got all over the bacon from the muzzle discharge, and Krudz is a world class douche bag that should never ever ever be allowed within 1/2 earth diameter of that little red button, but his bacon stunt, while stupid was not unsafe.

  • Anarchy Pony

    I feel like I’m living in some sort of dark humor satire.

    • proudgrampa

      I, for one, would rather be living in a yellow submarine.

      • Rasilom

        But don’t “We all live in a Yellow Submarine” already?

        • MintDragon

          Our friends are all aboard.

          • jmk

            Many more of them live next door.

            Hi Canada!!

    • data_ninja

      “There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
      There is another theory which states that this has already happened.”
      –HHGTTG

  • 24chester

    The gun is a metaphor for this country if Tailgunner Ted Cruz (R. Canada/Cuba) gets elected POTUS. He’s a major league asshat!

  • proudgrampa

    That DEA guy shooting himself in the foot just makes me laugh and laugh. A Darwin Award also-ran.

    • Jenny

      I like that he just stood there bleeding foot and all trying to continue on. His friend picks up the bigger gun and the kids are like no, no put it down!

  • D_C_Wilson

    Oh and that “machine gun” Rafael Junior used to cook bacon? Not really a machine gun.

    Ted is a poser. He doesn’t actually know shit about guns. He’s just trying to impress the mouth breathers. Again.

    • OneDemin EOr

      He’s more slithery than a poser. I think this asshat could be truly dangerous if he had more of his shit together.
      Thank dog he does not.

      • riledupone

        He’s lower than a pregnant snake’s belly in a wagon rut.

  • Celtic_Gnome

    Guns, like immigrants, are just another prop Republican politicians know nothing about but use to fire up the base.

  • OneDemin EOr

    Kaili, you know I love you. But..and you have no idea how it pains me to type this…Ted Cruz is handling that weapon correctly.
    That is a shotgun. It is being held in the “open” position. As such, it is impossible (yes, really truly impossible, goddamn it all) for asshat Cruz to shoot anything. The firing mechanism is removed from accessing the shell, because the action is open. Further, the way he is holding the shotgun, it cannot be loaded, because the shells would fall out on the ground. And he is not holding his thumb or any of his fingers inside the trigger guard.
    OTOH, if Cruz were to load it and hold it under his chin, it would go off with votes most effectively.

  • I_Buttle

    I watched the video hoping to see Cruz being an ignorant-ass city boy making a fool of himself, but he was properly handling an over under shotgun that was cracked. And even if there were a shell in the barrel, which you could clearly see in the video there was not, that gun couldn’t fire. Any experienced shooter might handle a shotgun this way. A rifle never, but a shotgun yes.
    Save your outrage, Cruz will offer up plenty of worthy fodder for us to berate soon enough, I’m sure.

    • Comrade Wingtardd 5467p

      Yes nothing to see here.

    • Enfant Terrible

      Rule #1, Rule #3.

  • Juan de Fuca
    • Enfant Terrible

      Rule #1, Rule #3.

      • Juan de Fuca

        We teach children better than this.

        • Lord-Nash

          Apparently, that message has been lost. Man! The gun fetishists REALLY came out in droves today. Shy’s got his work cut out!

      • Lizzietish81

        Assuming it was ever loaded. Or even a real gun.

  • Enfant Terrible

    Gotta follow The Rules, even when you are absitively, posilutely certain that the gun is cracked open, or the safey is on, or the chamber is empty. To wit:

    https://youtu.be/paxk_LPmdMI

    • cessnadriver

      This guy made a follow-up video. Blamed Obama or something.

      • MintDragon

        Thanks, Obama!

    • Rasilom

      If you liked “I Just Fucking Shot Myself” then you will ABSOLUTLY LOVE!!!! “I Just Fucking Shot Myself – The Musical” Order on pay per view TODAY!!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTGmTrQXrwg

  • MintDragon

    The barrel is as clear as a bell, as you can see about halfway through the video. Guys finger is not on the trigger. The firing pin can’t get at a round when it’s broken down like that anyway. Some of us would still prefer you didn’t tag people and houses and dogs with your muzzle, but hunters aren’t as disciplined as soldiers. I liked the DEA video though.

    • Playonwords

      But one day the barrel will not be clear. One day the weapon will snap shut. Additionally carrying a break action that way damages the mechanism.

      Correct method for one handed carry: break open the weapon; check that the ejectors have worked and the barrels are clear; stock under arm and partly supported by your forearm; fore-end in your hand. Every so often look down to see that the barrels are still clear and you have not accidentally put one up the spout.

      Alternative, if you have to carry the weapon on your shoulder: Break, check, clear as before; stock on your shoulder fore-end in hand. This ensures you can see the weapon is clear and where it is pointing.

      • r neville

        The action is open and showing it’s unloaded your criticism is as ridiculous as worrying about where an unloaded and encased firearm is pointing

        • Playonwords

          If you cannot see the chambers you have to act as if the weapon is loaded. If you cannot control the muzzle you cannot control where the possibly loaded weapon is pointing.

          • r neville

            Sorry, but no, you don’t.

            If I check the chamber and leave the action open the gun is unloaded. Q. E. D.

            I’d have no problem hunting or shooting with Ted after seeing this photo and he’s doing nothing unsafe.

          • Playonwords

            If I check the chamber and leave the action open the gun is unloaded

            There have been many gun deaths where the first words/last out of the mouth of the perpetrator/victim were “… but I made sure it was unloaded”

          • r neville

            that’s neither here nor there.

            If you have an example where someone was shot with an unloaded, broken, double barreled shotgun, cite it or STFU

          • Playonwords

            The point is you DO NOT KNOW the state of the load unless you can see it. You NEVER rely on someone else to do your safety checks, you NEVER carry a gun unless you can control where the muzzle is pointed.

            Safeties are never safe, a broken shotgun can close. If you make assumptions about the safety or otherwise of your weapon then you are not a safe user you are a dangerous fool.

          • r neville

            Like I said, if you have an example where someone was shot with an unloaded, broken, double barreled shotgun, cite it or STFU

          • Playonwords

            Basic shooting range/clay trap safety; any weapon is always considered to be loaded. If you do not follow that rule you are an irresponsible fool who should never handle a gun. Go and talk to a range safety officer sometime.

          • r neville

            I’ll take that as a no, you can’t cite a single example and go out on a limb here and guess you’re not an RSO either.

          • Playonwords

            So it’s obvious you should never own a gun. Go and talk to a range safety officer. Oh and many people have been shot by guns they thought were unloaded. A link for you, one of many

            http://mafirearmsafety.com/2009/07/2-gun-sensehow-do-people-get-killed-by-unloaded-guns/

          • r neville

            Actually, I am a Range Safety Officer as well as a Certified NRA Instructor.

            Zero tolerance, know-it-alls with agendas, who substitute “rules” for judgement and knowledge are the ones who I’ve always found to be dangerous.

          • Playonwords

            Oh! you’ve just remembered you’re a range safety officer – In which case you are a danger and a person who teaches other people to be dangerous. My old range safety officer (ex-RM) would have told you where you could go with your filthy lies about gun safety. Actually my old Religious Knowledge teacher, an original Death or Glory Boy told us never to think any gun was empty

            … and if you don’t know what ex-RM stands for then then FOAD

      • KD Lash

        find me a video where the barrel is clear and/or the action is closed with cruz. then you might have a point. until then, acting as if this article is anything more than a poorly considered hit piece that backfired (pun intended), shows you are either ignorant or biased, or both.

        • Playonwords

          I do not need to get any video about Cruz, the safety aspect is NOT about what happened in the past but what could happen in the future. Not controlling the muzzle is dangerous, not having a constant, personal knowledge of load state is dangerous.

          • KD Lash

            so the safety is bad when its held in an entirely acceptable and common manner, with a clearly unable to fire weapon that is clearly empty because maybe you think he might do the same with a loaded weapon later? you are essentially saying that you know for sure he would hold it in the same manner if it were loaded with a closed action. you are further implying that he has no idea of the gun’s load state based on no articulable fact. Using your logic, you should stop commenting on gun safety because in your likely response to this comment you will continue to defend a defenseless position. attack him for something articulable, not some made up gun safety bogeyman that doesn’t exist

          • Playonwords

            Acceptable and common is NOT safe.

            It was acceptable and common to smoke in the presence of children, it was acceptable and common to drive without seat belts, it was acceptable and common to use radium paints, it was acceptable and common to work mines with a candle stuck to a felt hat. It still is acceptable and common for US citizens to be permitted to own guns with little or nothing in the way of training or background checks.

            Never carry a gun where you cannot control where the muzzle is pointed and never rely on someone else to confirm the load state of your gun.

          • KD Lash

            Everyone can confirm the load state of the gun in the manner in which cruz is carrying it. if anything it makes things easier for others to confirm load state in that configuration. for crying out loud, you can see an empty barrel and action. guns do not fire without a load.

            Muzzle direction can be easily controlled and the firing mechanism (trigger) is not in contact with any digits. they’re not even inside the guard.

            Anyone with a modicum of firearm knowledge or even a basic understanding of simple machinery sees that (i.e. guns need bullets/shells to go boom). you made my point for me. please continue to hammer away and make absolutely no sense in your argument.

          • Playonwords

            No-one ensures the safety of a gun except yourself. You NEV ER accept another person’s word and anyone who does is a fool.

  • TheRowdPiper

    SMH. That’s not how break action shotguns work Kaili. Maybe research more before claiming someone is ok with killing people.

    • Playonwords

      You cannot trust ejectors, you cannot trust locking mechanisms

      • KD Lash

        you can, however, trust a clearly empty chamber and barrel, as well as hundreds of years of break action shotgun etiquette, which clearly dictate this is an acceptable way to carry said shotgun and in no way dangerous. but please tell me more about how that carry position is dangerous

        • Playonwords

          The point is NOT about what the state of the gun is now it is about the state of the gun in future.

          … hundreds of years of break action shotgun etiquette

          Would that bee Sir Arthur Dabney Blambey’s “How I Carried a Shotgun in the Presence of Her Majesty the Queen” pub. by Purgatory Press 1849? An appeal to tradition is a piss poor excuse for actual safety, humans have excused living in the shadow of a volcano because living there was tradition, welcome to Krakatoa. Break action shotguns have been in common use for less than 160 years and it has always been correct to carry the broken gun with the fore-end in hand because that way you control in which direction the muzzle is pointing. You carry it so the chambers are visible so that, if you did absentmindedly snap a couple into the chambers you might realise before you became Dick Cheney.

  • Walter

    Lol @ Kaili. You want some sauce with your double-helping of stupid? Nothing to see there. Get a clue before you post rubbish.

    • Jason M

      Hey, look! I actually saw one of these stooge-posts before they got 86’d! Hi, ShyPixel! Hi, Doc! Hi, Ma!

      • Walter

        Mama still loves you baby..

      • jmk

        It’s exciting, isn’t it??

    • Playonwords

      OOOOOh lookat the dumbass

      Break action shotguns should never be carried over the shoulder. Firstly because you can never guarantee there will never be a live shell in place when the weapon “accidentally” snaps shut. Secondly, (and more important to gun humpers) it damages the gun.

      • Walter

        Hmmm.. I’m seeing him.
        Many people carry it exactly like that. Many gun safety manuals has it as an acceptable way to carry as well. This “article”/post is reaching. I know it, and you should know it.

        • Playonwords

          Well you’ve learnt something today,lots of people doing it does not make it right. As I said below the correct method of carry either under the arm with the fore-end in hand or stock on shoulder, fore-end in hand

          • Walter

            Okay. Just ignore the second part of my sentence: “Many gun safety manuals…”
            It may not be optimal the way he’s carrying, but it sure as shit doesn’t warrant a little “Gotcha” article. It just makes the writer look like a petulant child.

      • Devon Dibley

        I know you Leftists are more concerned with the proper way to put a condom on a cucumber, but when it comes to guns, well, your hysteria overwhelms your common sense… if you had any. Accepable ways to hold a shotgun…

        • Juan de Fuca

          Interesting picture. Did it happen to come from the Texas Game and Wildlife website with the following instruction:

          “The shoulder carry balances the rifle on your shoulder, controlling the firearm by a hand on the grip. Always keep your finger off the trigger and on the outside of the trigger guard. This is a good carry when walking beside or behind others. It is not a good carry if others are behind you.

          http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s–ECRPhqT1–/1504440047779578185.gif

          • OneOut

            Since you can’t tell the difference between a rifle, which your post references, and a shotgun, which Cruz is carrying, and the differences between them, your opinion on this matter is worthless and you shouldn’t be commenting on this article. The writer is also stupid in crying about the farmhouse behind Cruz as even a long barreled goose gun couldn’t reach it.

          • Juan de Fuca

            Can you read? The post above mine showed a person carrying a shotgun on her shoulder but the commentor left out the caption below the picture from the website. I included the caption and now you’re going after me for posting what the instruction was for that particular picture? It is little wonder why this article has pissed so many people off; the basic point of it sailed far over your heads.

            Nobody carries a firearm like that with people behind him and anyone who claims they do is full of shit or needs to reconsider how they handle firearms. The point of the story is the guy is a poser. If this article accomplished one good thing, it shows just how many gun owners there are out here who don’t respect them enough or are simply attacking the author because they assume she is an anti-gun fanatic (spoiler alert: she’s not). BTW, as far as my background, 22 years military (retired) and began hunting when I was 13. I know the difference between many different types of firearms so don’t assume…

          • jmk

            He was pulling a variation on the old “your comment is disqualified because you called a magazine a cartridge or a cartridge a magazine or something something blaart” where he doesn’t have to address the substance of your comment.

            They are very predictable.

          • Juan de Fuca

            I started to mention the time I disabled an Iraqi BMT just south of Basra with an AT-4 back in my younger days but doubt he’d know what the fuck an AT-4 is. Gun nuts crack me up

          • jmk

            Check the gif, cupcake. What’s that in between The Anointed One and the “farmhouse”?

            OOooooh. Look!! It’s people.

          • Devon Dibley

            Thanks. Do you know anything about that firearm? What can we tell from that gif? And if this is the best she’s got, Ted Cruz has free space in her head. I guess you prefer Hillary’s story about being under fire? Lies, lies, tell me sweet little lies.

        • Playonwords

          Both the people in that picture are carrying unsafely. Saying everybody (you know) does it does not make it correct it just makes it careless. Without the fore-end in hand you cannot control where the muzzle is pointed. Without the chambers visibly open in your sight you cannot say the weapon is unloaded.

      • wyclif

        Stop being an utter prolix douchenozzle. Your comment reveals that you have no bloody clue about how firearms should be properly handled, but you’re not smart enough to understand how completely and totally stupid you sound by parroting this nonsense.

        • Playonwords

          What nonsense?

          Gun safety rule 1: No gun is ever considered to be unloaded – even if you can see it is unloaded it isn’t;

          Gun safety rule 2: Never let the muzzle of any gun ever point at something you don’t want damaged – because rule 1;
          Gun safety rule 3: Always know where the muzzle of your weapon is pointing because of rules 1 and 2

          It doesn’t matter if the gun is “obviously” unloaded, it doesn’t matter if there’s no-one or nothing else in the area.

          In the case of a break action weapon broken on shoulder in the manner of idiot Cruz lets the centre of mass of the barrels act at some distance from the point of suspension and this will add to the wear of the break mechanism. The correct methods of carrying an open break action shot gun is:
          1) stock on shoulder, the center of mass of the stock on the shoulder and the fore-end in hand at about the centre of mass of the barrels;
          2) stock under arm, weight of stock on forearm, fore-end in hand as about the centre of mass of the barrels.
          These methods will reduce wear and are safe because you always know where the muzzle is pointing. Now go back to school and learn how to be safe with a gun – not comfortable.

        • Playonwords

          So explain how I am wrong
          Gun safety rule 1 – No gun is ever considered to be unloaded
          Gun safety rule 2 – Never let the muzzle of any gun point at something you do not want to damage.

          Engineering; items connected with a flexible link should always have both masses supported to minimise wear.

  • Jason M

    My old man taught me that “guns load themselves” and to never point one at something I didn’t want a hole in.

    • r neville

      Your old man was half right, guns do not load themselves and an open action is proof.

      • Jason M

        I think the idea is that people’s memories fail them, or that others might tamper with your gun, so always always always treat every weapon like it’s loaded, at all times. Please hyper-focus on the “open action” of one gun in one picture to discount broad safety advice, though.

        • Mike K

          You were giving broad safety advice, not commenting on the article in question or the picture under discussion?

  • Joel A. Edge

    I’m surprised this is still up. Just gonna try and ride out the stupid, huh?

    • jmk

      Yup. We figure you’ll leave soon enough.

      • wyclif

        Doubling down on idiocy and know-nothingness is Wonkette’s stock in trade, particularly where firearms are involved.

        • jmk

          No, sugarpie. Wonkette’s stock-in-trade is snark.

          And you, cupcake, with your angry idiocy and peen-extender fetish, are a ripe, ripe fucking target.

          See you on Sunday!!

          • wyclif

            I knew the proglodytes would retreat to the “snark” line, and claim this piece was satire. Too late for that. And I won’t be seeing you on Sunday or any other day, because I avoid assholes like you as a matter of principle.

          • jmk

            You really are very stupid, aren’t you?

            Scan my comments, asswipe – I mentioned snark. I said nothing about satire.

            And I dispute that you avoid people like me “as a matter of principle.” First, you clearly have no principles, and second, responding to everything I post isn’t what I’d call “avoiding.”

            Fuck off back to Stormfront, nitwit.

          • wyclif

            You are an utterly unredeemable moron of the lowest order. You cannot wrap your pea-sized brain around the fact that you can see the sky through the chamber of that break shotgun—it’s visibly unloaded and impossible to engage—but reason isn’t going to stop your absolute fucking stupidity witlessness. Go back to the proggie swamp you crawled out of , you thumbsucking SJW poodle.

          • jmk

            I guess the guys standing behind him but still in range can “see the sky through the chamber.”

            What an asshole you are. If you ever shot a gun at a range, and you pulled this kind of shit, you’d be kicked off.

            Of course, you and the other members of the 101st Chairborne Rangers don’t know that because weapon-handling standards are a bit lower in Call of Duty.

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  • Ha HA HA, Ted Cruz has an empty broken penis on his shoulder. Ha Ha.

    • r neville

      No, it’s a shotgun, moron.

      • Oh,I guess he’s just a dick then. A broken, flaccid, dick. With a shotgun on his shoulder, next to his dick face head.

        • And he’s got a big butt and his big butt stinks and he likes to smell his own big stinky ol butt.

  • The gun is uncocked-it is a breakaction shotgun, it can’t shoot anyone the way Cruz is carrying it.

  • Gregory Brown

    Methinks thou dost protest too much.

  • wyclif

    Kaili Joy needs an immediate moratorium on writing about firearms and 2nd Amendment issues, lest she embarrass herself further.

    This Wonkette-splaining of shotgun safety is the most insufferably stupid and mouth-breathing piece of proggie gun derangement syndrome so far this week.

  • HistoryofMatt

    Do you seriously not understand that this is a safe carry position for a shotgun? The breach is open. This means the firing pin is nowhere near able to impact the shell to fire. Second, it’s unloaded.

    If you’re so completely ignorant of firearms and firearms safety that you make this kind of mistake, it’s better just not to say anything at all.

    But of course, I don’t expect you to make a retraction, because your lies service the “greater good,” right?

    • All this will be moot once we take all the guns for freedom. Obama has already taken mine, and he kicked my dog on the way out.

      • HistoryofMatt

        You’re an effing moron. When did I say anything about Obama? But nice try at the strawman.

        All I did was try to correct an erroneously stupid and false story here.

        And yes, I pointed out that people who are ideologically biased don’t tend to retract the lies they tell, ever, because it’s all in service to their idea of the greater good.

        But that goes for the left and the right.

        So go pound your pud in the corner while lovingly gazing at your Hope & Change posters before you go to work at your minimum wage McJob and STFU.

        Most of us have actual work to do.

        • Yes-sir, pud pounding ahoy at McDonalds right-away. I pound in awe of your great intellect, someday I aspire to be as great as you are, please teach me more.

      • constitutionminded

        How do you equate the taking of guns by a out of control government as freedom? Maybe we have a different view of freedom.

        • Yes we do. “The way out of a room is not through the door. Just don’t want out. And you’re free…” ― Charles Manson

      • wyclif

        Come and try to take the guns, proggie. I double dog dare you.

        • No you keep em. In fact go buy some more. And while you’re at it, get yerself some cheap whiskey and a carton of smokes. Then you can really enjoy your little kingdom, of which you are king, all king up in it like.

  • John Galt

    You people on the left are such damn fools. When will you print a retraction, correction, or how about, “I’m a damn fool, and now even more people know it.”

    • Juan de Fuca

      John Galt is HERE!!

      • jmk

        Holy shit!! Is that the REAL John Galt???

        Hard to believe he could spare the time to visit the Wonketariat!!

      • Gleem-McShinez

        Who?

    • danzig138

      And you’re a moron. When will you apologize for wasting our precious oxygen?

      • John Galt

        So, just to be clear…you also believe that a break-action shotgun, broken and with no shells is in danger of shooting someone? You might want to check on that…many state fish and wildlife agencies recommend this practice as safe carry for that type of weapon.

  • Name

    Kudos to your willingness to leave this embarrassing article up. Aside from the obvious lack of gun knowledge I found this line pretty funny too “…a position very few gun owners, including NRA members, agree with…” You so funny.

  • KY Jeeper

    LOL, this is hilarious – I hope people have copied this page before it is taken down. Whoever wrote this has no knowledge of firearms – typical of most leftist idiots.

    • Sigh, or you fell for the bait, smart guy.

      • KY Jeeper

        No, I’m laughing heartily at the ignorance on full display.

        • Of which you are part of.

          • KY Jeeper

            Derp….No, pointing out absurdity does not make one a party to it.

          • Derp… I see your point, and I point out the absurdity of your posting here as a part of this forum. Making you a party to it. Unless you are the sole arbitrator of all things derpish, in which case I will defer to your great big giant mind.

          • KY Jeeper

            Thanks, that’s probably a good move on your part after reading your other posts.

          • Yup, of course you are correct. Why wouldn’t you be?

      • Joseph Bishop

        I’m not feeling an ounce of satire or sarcasm from this article. It bleeds ignorance.

        • You are part of that ignorance you realize by responding to the obvious…..oh wait, I forgot…..you are truly a great man, full of wisdom of years and hard knocks given by a cruel world. Thank you for blessing me and others with the gift that is you.

  • danzig138

    Christ, what a poorly constructed and executed article. But what’s most sad is that Ted Cruz is a painfully stupid person. Finding *genuine* things to mock about him is as hard as finding sand on the beach. And you couldn’t manage that? That’s embarrassing for you and us.

    • algonquinmatt

      “Ted Cruz is a painfully stupid person”

      Alan Dershowitz says that Ted Cruz was one of Harvard Law’s smartest students. Ever.

      To refer to him as stupid says a lot about yourself. and it ain’t good.

      • needstimulus

        That’s the standard fare from lefties: “You are stupid.” Says a lot more about them than conservatives or Republicans.
        I live in CA and I can tell you it’s the painfully stupid who keep voting for Dems in this state. Once Dems take over a state, we find out how Orwellian they really are. The prog wing is the worst.

        • jmk

          Oh yes. So Orwellian.

          That’s why it’s DEMS who want to revamp the history curriculum in schools to “promote patriotic material, respect for authority, and the free-market system” and to avoid teaching about “civil disorder, social strife or disregard of the law.”

          That’s why it’s DEMS who are trying to remove “critical thinking” from the Texas state school curriculum.

          That’s why it’s DEMS who are forcing doctors to tell patients lies about the long-term effects of legal medical procedures.

          That’s why it’s DEMS who are claiming that members of certain groups of people are not “real” Americans and can’t run for office.

          I’ve been the recipient of more nasty names from you cons than you’ve had hot dinners… and almost none of those ugly names was accompanied by anything even remotely approaching a substantive comment – just a lot of rude and childish name-calling.

          Based on your comment, I realize that facts don’t matter much to you, but those are facts, cupcake. Swallow hard.

  • AlexCristo

    You can’t possibly be this daft. I’m no gun nut – taking part in the occasional skeet shooting exercise – but this is childish as it irresponsible as it nonsensical. Not to mention incorrect. It’s being anti-gun for its own absurd sake; to fit an already stagnant and tiresome narrative. I can just see the eyes rolling while asserting the ‘right wing extremists are trolling’ at her being corrected. Sheesh. These people!

  • H Scott Apley

    This article brought you by an assclown who is utterly incompetent. Not only at writing, but also with his understanding of guns. Unless there is a new magic shotgun designed to fire when the breach is open, I am pretty sure the barn is safe.

    • algonquinmatt

      a lady wrote it. Her picture is still here at the bottom of the article.. i’m sure it will be removed shortly or photoshopped with a dunce hat.

  • algonquinmatt

    i heard about this article and had to read it!

    This is not the first or last time that a liberal will write an article critical of a conservative that is way off target, but it may be the best example of liberal stupidity and arrogance.

    • Or just not liking that Cruz asshole. Which is smart and truthful.

      • algonquinmatt

        Ha! the moonbats fly together. A liberal flock of fools.

        Admit it…the lady who wrote this is an idiot. She’ll never live this down.

        • Ok, she is an idiot. I like the article because I don’t like Cruz. So what? Don’t you have pud pounding to watch at McDonalds or something, workin guy?

          • algonquinmatt

            Wait. am i talking to the guy who identifies himself as a super hero AND bat lover? that’s pretty damned funny.

          • There is that great sharp wit! Got me. Gee, I will change my thinking to align with the greatness that is yours. How could I be so wrong all these years, you have opened my eyes. I am humbled by your obvious superior intellect, I shudder at your words, dripping wet from the anticipation of your next moment of razor punditry. You sir are a god. And Cruz is still an asshole.Maybe you too should go out?

          • Joseph Bishop

            The fact that you would support such an ignorant fallasy ridden article simply because it says bad things with someone you disagree with truly speaks to how much you value truth in journalism as well as a intellectually sound argument.

            I’ve long been pondering how the “tolerant left” seems to lose all tolerance and run pure blind smear campaigns completely devoid of fact or reason. I guess you are one of the sad life forms which helps comprise their audience. Someone who’s clearly drunk so much of the koolaid it’s colored his mind. I hope your potential children find a more independent minded logical example than you in their formative years.

          • Wow, so true,I have no tolerance. None, whatsoever. Cruz is still an asshole. My life form is so sad as I have no reason,still Cruz is an asshole. It would appear you are the better human life form, I should learn more from you. I see I can count on you for logic and reason. Sooooo drunk on the colored mind kool-aid. Count me as sheeple!

          • constitutionminded

            You like an article that is totally untruthful because it is about someone you don’t like? O-KAY, whatever.

        • jmk

          You read one article by a professional writer and you think that means that she “is an idiot” who will “never live this down.”

          That seems like a bit of a hasty and over-the-top judgment…I mean, I read way more than one thing from you before I decided you were a moran.

    • jmk

      Oh you HEARD about this article, did you? So the HumperSignal went up on an ammosexual website and sent you assholes here to dispute that the first two rules of gun safety are “treat all guns as if they are loaded, and never point a firearm at something you’re not willing to destroy”?

      Clever.

  • disqus_fvLIBK8ktD

    I am a non-gun-owning Ivy-education 50 year old liberal woman and even I know (from reading British novels, no less) this is ridiculous. This author apparently has no background information AND doesn’t check her impressions. Pathetic.

    • algonquinmatt

      It reminds me of that liberal journalist who reported from a protest in Ferguson. He accused the police of shooting rubber bullets at protesters. He tweeted a picture of the evidence that he found on the street.

      A picture of common ear plugs. You might think that he would ask somebody before exposing himself as an idiot, but he didn’t. He’ll never live that down.

    • jmk

      Sorry, cupcake. Your story doesn’t ring true.

  • constitutionminded

    So this is what masquerades for real journalism now? Keep digging that hole.

    • Lord-Nash

      Welcome to Wonkette, a satirical blog focusing on politics and humor. It’s not meant to be taken as hard hitting journalism, so leave that assumption at the door. Now that’s gone, what is wrong with the article? Is the premise, ie that FOLLOWING THE FUCKING RULES will result in lowered gun accidents, or is it some individual piece of information contained within?

      • smith0288

        Ah, the Comedy Central – Daily Show defense… We dont have to know what we’re blabbering about, we’re merely entertainment. The rules given in the article are factual but the key point here is that Ted Cruz isn’r following basic rules given in the article. I guess that argument could be made if the way he’s handling this weapon wasnt a widely acceptable manner in which to handle a shotgun of that type (action open and clearly empty of any possible munitions). It’s a weak sauce attempt to critique a gun supporter’s sage gun handling from an anti-gunner. It’s funny.

        • Lord-Nash

          It isn’t a defense, it’s the way it is (please see coach Mike Tomlin for an ‘It is what it is, we’re not going to make any excuses’ example). But this still looks like an unsafe way to carry this weapon. The reason for never carrying a gun as depicted in the photo in this
          article is that you could trip (a not uncommon event while walking
          through thick woods filled with underbrush, especially if you are not
          sober), pitch forward, and the barrels could close and the gun could
          fire and hit you or someone in front of you.

        • TheBidenator

          How do I put this, blogging isn’t considered journalism in fact I’m sure several professors of journalism would suffer heart attacks just reading the ignorant idiocy of your comment. You know the difference between a news paper article and a blog post, right? I know you trolls get it all mixed up by watching Fox News and hilariously calling it journalism but there is a HUGE difference in rules between a blog which has none and journalism which has many. Stop trying to sound smart troll, you only come off as smrt.

    • TheBidenator

      It’s a BLOG, moran….you do know what a blog is right? It’s kind of like Fox News except they use more facts and are self aware. Do try and keep up, okay?

  • Liz

    The author of this “so-called” journalistic gem is an absolute IDIOT!

    • jmk

      Well, that’s substantive.

    • TheBidenator

      It’s “a idiot” Liz, if you’re going to keep your stupid over here and shit on the floor like you’re Chuck C. Johnson then at least get the terminology correct…

  • Angela Ruzzo

    I can’t imagine why so many people are posting conservative critiques of this article, because it is deadly accurate. These are basic gun training rules. Every rural child in America was taught exactly these rules when given their first BB gun when I was growing up 60 years ago. I was taught them too, word for word as given in this article. The NRA ran training camps for youngsters in those days that repeated these rules word for word. My father and all his rural friends always locked their guns up in a cabinet, and it never crossed their minds that this was a violation of their constitutional rights – was just plain gun safety. No gun was ever left lying around, loaded or unloaded, where people could pick it up casually. If we were given toy guns – including water pistols – we were forbidden to use them in the house or point them at people anywhere (except at your brother, brothers were fair game LOL). We used to hunt with bow and arrow too, and we were taught basic safety rules with the bows as well – never point an arrow at someone, never shoot randomly into the sky or the woods, etc. As a result, 60 and 50 and 40 years ago, you didn’t see the kind of accidental shootings that occur so frequently today.

    • Joseph Bishop

      That gun over his soldier in this picture has the breach (part that holds the bullets) open so it physically cannot fire a round. That is why. People are commenting. You claim knowledge, but show your ignorance.

      • Lord-Nash

        People have said the same thing about the safety being on, yet shots have been fired when someone thought the gun could not.

        • billy d

          LOLOLOLOL. have you ever actually seen a real gun?

          • Lord-Nash

            Yes, I have. Have you seen words and sentences in this article, which refer to a specific case where the guy was CERTAIN the safety was on, and it was not and he shot himself?
            http://wonkette.com/582012/hidden-gun-in-church-adds-excitement-flesh-wound-to-easter-vigil-service

          • billy d

            dear goodness, your condescension when speaking from such a position of ignorance is both ironic and insufferable.

          • Lord-Nash

            How is it ignorant for me to point out that dude made a mistake when he said ‘Safety’s on!’ and he proved himself wrong?

          • billy d

            because you don’t understand the difference between a switch flipped on a loaded gun and completely empty one that is visibly incapable of firing.

            people with no gun knowledge post crap like this and show themselves to be fools. thanks for revealing who you are….

          • Lord-Nash

            In both cases you’re supposed to be aware of where your gun is pointing and it’s poor practice not to know. That’s why Cruz is wrong.

          • billy d

            just admit you’ve never owned a firearm and don’t know jack squat about them. then you’ll at least look a bit less foolish.

          • Lord-Nash

            I haven’t owned a firearm. Why do you think that means I don’t know that the smart thing is to know where the fucker is pointing?

          • billy d

            Guns aren’t something you learn about in books or on TV, dude.

          • billy d

            Guns aren’t something you learn about from movies and books, slick. It’s clear you know so little

          • billy d

            Guns are not something you learn about from movies and weblogs. Your lack of knowledge is telling

          • Lord-Nash

            I’d agree with you there. It’s common fucking sense to be cautious with a gun and know where its pointing. I didn’t need anyone to tell me that.

          • billy d

            LOLOLOL. your foolishness only compounds each time you open your mouth. liberals sound so retarded when they talk about firearms

          • Lord-Nash

            Really…so it’s perfectly OK to be ignorant of where your firearm is pointing? Why not be extra careful with something that can kill you? Why not build good habits, that I don’t know, might get passed to your children so that they and those around them are safe?

          • billy d

            if you cannot possibly see how safe EVERYONE around cruz is at the moment that photo is taken, then you are beyond help.

          • Lord-Nash

            Everyone would be safer if he used proper precautions when handling that firearm. Knowing where it is pointing at all times is good practice, and the safer option than what is was doing in the photo. Not handling arms with the utmost care at all times may not always lead to an injury, but it increases the likelihood.

          • billy d

            He knows exactly where it’s pointing, fool.

          • Lord-Nash

            Unless he has eyes in the back of his head, he does not know where it’s pointing.

          • billy d

            I’m sitting in a chair facing my computer desk, but i know exactly what’s behind me. You are such a fool just trying to make an argument, and failing. Stick to topics you know. You lose.

          • Lord-Nash

            Sitting in your computer chair without a gun over your shoulder: doesn’t really demand a good knowledge of what’s behind you. Having a gun over your shoulder, demands you are aware of what’s behind you to be safe, and it’s pretty damn hard to be aware of that all the time.

          • billy d

            You are so retarded.

          • Lord-Nash

            OOH. Ouch. Given your basic lack of understanding that not knowing where your gun is pointing might be a bad idea, I’m not surprised.

          • billy d

            It’s funny how the internet makes people think they are experts on things they have zero experience with. You have zero gun experience and no idea what you’re talking about. Just another empty headed fool making up things.

          • Lord-Nash

            Dude, no matter what you say, what you think, you aren’t going to convince me it’s OK to carry around a firearm like that when you don’t know what it’s pointing at. It’s just not safe. With the tiniest ounce of extra care, Ted could make himself and the people around him safer by carrying that weapon properly. But he isn’t. Why risk something like that for no extra effort? The only answer is that he doesn’t realize the proper way to use a weapon. Please remember this is also the guy who advocated cooking bacon on a high powered rifle. Hot grease dripping into the handles of your weapon sounds preeeeeeetty dumb. Ted does not strike me as the person to listen to for gun safety. And nothing you think, say or do will make me change my mind.

          • billy d

            You don’t listen, do you?

          • billy d

            Yes, as with all closed-minded liberals, you make up your mind based on personal hate and dislike rather than facts and reality. I know plenty of the sort who are exactly like you. That’s why everything you’ve posted is just as I would have expected from a fool blinded by the herd mentality, without any true success or experience in the real world. Your fantasy world gives you a playground in which you think you’re king, and you’ll never give it up. Enjoy that.

          • Lord-Nash

            Do you seriously claim you haven’t done what you accuse me of? You ARE aware that the word ‘liberal’ means open to new ideas right? You have failed to present any in this argument. You have simply stated that it’s OK to walk around with a weapon, ignorant of where it is pointing when you’re sure it’s unloaded, and there’s no more care needed than that. Guess what? Plenty of people have shot themselves or others when they were ‘sure’ everything was safe. Ted has not shown proper care with his guns, therefore he is not the person to defend as a representation of gun safety. I’ll take the person who does not attempt to cook breakfast on his weapon as an example, thank you very much.

          • billy d

            LOL. I know what the _word_ means. Doesn’t have any bearing on what the PEOPLE do. Liberals hate others and shut down ideas they don’t like.

            You make up stuff and swallow a load of nonsense hook, line, and sinker. Your entire post above is confirmation of that.

          • billy d

            what the word means doesn’t describe what people like you are. you’re the most closed-minded, vengeful, hateful, unaccepting, conformist people this country has. and you believe stupid things because people on your side tell you to. like the title of this post. you’re quite uneducated.

          • Lord-Nash

            Yes…WE are the ones who are closed-minded, vengeful, hateful, unaccepting and conformist people this country has. Let’s look at the evidence. We’re unaccepting and conformist…that’s obviously why conservatives are consistently fighting for G&BLT rights and liberals are saying let them burn. We’re so vengeful, we liberals are just constantly blowing up Baptist churches while conservatives are welcoming Muslims into their communities with open arms. We’re so closed-minded that conservatives have been screaming for women’s rights while we liberals are working as hard as we can to push women out of their shoes and into their 6th pregnancy. All while they make us delicious sandwiches.

            Please.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5bd66d67d679f4201187f2e7e17790f3557aa6f1f372bda6fa328825739e4d5e.gif
            This gif is for you.

          • billy d

            You really don’t know anything at all, unfortunately. You are the sort of person who poisons any hope of real constructive discourse, because don’t know anything about the real people you oppose. The science is clear that conservatives are better people, are happier, give more to charity, are more understanding of opposing views, have more sex (YEP!), and contribute more to society than liberals. All of this has been verified empirically. So, go ahead with your rage, hate, disdain, and complete lack of understanding about the world. You are a perfect example of everything i’ve learned now to expect from people of your orientation.

          • billy d

            you continue to display the clear truth, confirmed by science, that conservatives are kinder, give more to charity, are happier, have more sex (yep!), do more to help the world, understand people better, and are more well-rounded people than people of your orientation.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Grew up with them. My father was a Conservation Agent in a rural area who grew up hunting. He gave me a BB gun at age 7, a shotgun at age 10, and trained all his children very carefully for years before allowing them to go hunting. I started hunting with him and my older brother when I was 12. We were also proficient with bow and arrow. And by the way, we ate whatever we shot, we were not “sport hunters.”

          • Lord-Nash

            I’ve seen a few reactions from our typical Wonketeers, some saying the gun over his shoulder is ‘correct’ behavior, and some saying it’s ‘acceptable’ behavior. Which is it? Seems like a big difference to me.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            All I can say is that in the 50’s and 60’s we were taught to NEVER carry a rifle or shotgun over our shoulder with the barrels pointing backwards, either with barrels closed or broken. Never, ever. You could carry it over your shoulder with the broken barrel pointing downwards in front of you, but this was strongly discouraged as dangerous. It was always to be held under your arm, pointing forwards at the ground in front of you, or with closed barrels pointing straight up. Even the NRA training camps at the time repeated this rule. It was repeated about 10,000 times to us youngsters and is burned into my brain. The reason for never carrying a gun as depicted in the photo in this article is that you could trip (a not uncommon event while walking through thick woods filled with underbrush, especially if you are not sober), pitch forward, and the barrels could close and the gun could fire and hit you or someone in front of you.

          • Lord-Nash

            Good enough for me. Thank you!

          • Angela Ruzzo

            You’re very welcome. I only wish my father was alive to post his comments. He was born in rural Missouri in 1918 and started hunting when he was 6 and was an NRA training expert in the 50’s. He would have some interesting things to say about today’s gun hysteria. He cancelled his lifetime NRA membership in1980 when the leadership changed and they became militant. He said they had lost sight of the original purpose of the NRA, which was gun training and gun safety. Truer words were never spoken.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          That’s true. That’s why you never point a gun at anyone or anything unless you are ready to kill it. Carrying a loaded gun – with safety on or safety off – over your shoulder, with the barrel pointing behind you where you cannot see what it might hit, is very careless. The proper position is under your arm with the barrel pointing at the ground in front of you. Then if the gun misfires, all you do is kill some dirt

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I am not commenting about the picture. I am commenting about the comments people have posted about the information in the article concerning gun safety being incorrect. The article is 100% correct about common gun safety rules. Read my comment again and this time read it more carefully.

        • jmk

          Ammosexuals have no time to read – that’s why they only know one clause of the 2nd Amendment.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Very true. Good point.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Not true. If you trip and fall forward, the gun flies over your shoulder, can land on the ground and close and fire. I’ve seen this demonstrated several times by instructors.

        • Gordon Haave

          No, it’s not. Why do you think you know something about guns and gun safety when clearly you do not? It’s ok. Not everyone has experience in everything, but the wise person doesn’t spout off about things without having knowledge.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            See my comments below. I spent 15 years training how to use guns, and I was trained by experts and professionals.

          • Gordon Haave

            apparently never where there was an over-under shotgun around

          • Angela Ruzzo

            There never was one, because it was dangerous and not permitted. The instructors even demonstrated how dangerous it was if you tripped and fell.

          • Gordon Haave

            That is completely idiotic. Over/unders are far safer than semi-autos, and there is ZERO chance that one can go off if you trip and fall if held the way cruz is holding one. You see how it is bent in half over his shoulder? There is ZERO chance of it firing.

      • Biff52

        Bullets? In a shotgun? Dude…

    • Gordon Haave

      This is not a “conservative critique. It is a “having the slightest bit of knowledge of firearms” critique.

      • Suse

        Are you saying these are not basic gun safety rules?

        • Gordon Haave

          Correct. In fact, Cruz is in fact following the safety rules. This is the correct way to carry an over/under shotgun as any person who has ever hunted with one can tell you.

          • Suse

            No, I mean these basic rules for all:
            Treat all guns as if they are loaded.
            Never point a firearm at something you’re not willing to destroy.
            Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
            Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

          • Gordon Haave

            Yes, those are the basic rules. However, as I said, if you go hunting ANYWHERE with an over-under shotgun every single person will tell you to carry the gun the way cruz is.

          • Suse

            Okay. One more question: How do you feel about his method of cooking bacon?

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Then every single person be wrong. Do an online search for “how to carry a broken shotgun” and EVERY SINGLE reputable site, including the NRA, will tell you the proper way to carry a shotgun is broken and over the arm, NEVER over the shoulder.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            You are incorrect. Perhaps safety rules have changed in the past 60 years, but I was taught in NRA training classes in the 60’s to never ever carry a gun in this position.

          • O Manning

            Interesting. You think your fifty-year old memories aren’t fantasies. You were NOT told that carrying a shotgun in the field carry position was unsafe. (where the weapon is opened and physically incapable of firing–in fact–the extractors are extended in this position and you can’t even KEEP a round in the chamber against gravity).

          • Angela Ruzzo

            My fifty year old memories are quite intact, thank you. I was told this hundreds of times. My father was a licensed NRA youth trainer, and other trainers told me the same thing. This position is extremely dangerous if you trip and fall forward. This was demonstrated to the classes in great detail.

          • O Manning

            More exaggerations–“hundreds of times”. The danger to falling over holding a broken and empty shotgun in this position is “falling over”. You’re the kind of person that shouldn’t be carrying a weapon. You have no power of independent thought.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            I said “hundreds of times” and I meant “hundreds of times.” I took NRA youth training classes every summer for 8 years. My father was one of the instructors. They repeated this at least ten times in each class and made us repeat it after them – young children needs lots of repetition. It seems you have never gone hunting for deer or turkey at 5 am in a thick wood – the risk of tripping over a tree root or thick underbrush is very real.

          • TheBidenator

            The only hunting flabby Ted Cruz has done is the kind where he sits on his fat ass and waits for someone to push a bird with clipped wings out and someone else to aim it for him…

      • Angela Ruzzo

        Then why is it that all the people I know who go ballistic at the slightest mention of gun safety are all conservatives? And all the people I know who understand that gun safety does not equate to threats against the Second Amendment are liberals?

        • Gordon Haave

          I can’t read minds. I can only comment that you don’t know what you are talking about here, and this is the proper way to carry an over/under shotgun.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            And I repeat, we were taught 50 years ago by our parents and NRA youth trainers that this was dangerous and to be avoided. If you were taught something different, then either your teachers were at fault or standards have changed.

          • O Manning

            I call this an outright lie. You were NOT taught that carrying a shotgun in the field safety position was “unsafe”. You’re in Hillary mode and trying to lawyer-speak gun safety rules. Here’s a hint. Apply common sense first…then read the damned rules.

          • Juan de Fuca

            What the fuck are you even trying to say here O Manning? You damn well know that is exactly how we were all taught to handle firearms – never point them at anyone. Ted Cruz is pointing and waving the barrel all over the place, unloaded or not – no bueno. Stop the bullshit.

          • O Manning

            An empty tube is not a firearm, dumbass. That’s why this is a preferred carry mode in the field with a shotgun capable of being carried this way. ANYONE can see it is empty and “safe”. NO ONE has to depend on someone else’s handling of a weapon to keep them safe.

          • Juan de Fuca

            An empty tube is a piece of PVC. A firearm is always a firearm. We used to teach this stuff…

          • O Manning

            Then you were taught wrong if you were not taught that there are foolproof ways to render a weapon safe and not dependent upon the actions of others to keep it so.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            It is you who are not being accurate. Check out these sites:
            http://www.nssf.org/safety/basics/ “Always Keep The Muzzle Pointed In A Safe Direction. Make it a habit to know exactly where the muzzle of your gun is pointing at all times, and be sure that you are in control of the direction in which the muzzle is pointing, even if you fall or stumble.”
            http://www.usacarry.com/nras-three-safety-rules/ NRA Safety Rules: “Gun Safety Rule #1: ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction. Your gun should only be pointed in a direction that, if it were to be fired, the bullet would not impact anything you would not want to damage or destroy. If on a range, keep the gun’s muzzle pointed down range. ‘Down range’ is the direction your gun should be pointed if you are standing at the firing line and facing your targets.”

          • O Manning

            Moron. I’ve carried a weapon for over 40 years and spent over 20 in active firearms training. Some weapons are capable, because of their construction, being rendered completely safe. When you put a rifle or pistol in a case “unloaded” do you operate in freak-out mode trying to make sure your suitcase is pointed in the proper direction? Do you have arrows on your cases?

            Since you’re not capable of independent thought you can’t tell that this is actually the safest way possible to carry a shotgun and is even safer than “knowing where you muzzle is pointing”….BECAUSE IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE WHICH WAY YOU POINT AN EMPTY TUBE.

            I would MUCH RATHER someone carrying a shotgun anywhere near me carry in this position. Why? I can see that it is rendered safe beyond any POSSIBLE doubt at all…I don’t have to depend upon someone’s ability to maintain positive control of the weapon (even if he “falls over”).

            I know arguing logic and common sense is worthless when it comes to dealing with you automatons…so this will be my last remark to your ignorant ass.

          • TheBidenator

            If you’ve carried a weapon for 40 years you should probably put it down at some point, dingus….also you spent 20 in active firearms training for what, pray tell? Are we waiting for tyrannah! to strike or something? You ammosexuals mystify me because your fetish is so boring. I can get jacked to go the gym because I’m making myself healthier and building something (plus there are hot women there) and I can get jacked to go do something where I put my fitness to good use but you guys head to a range, you fire off your little preciouses and then you sit and look at them with each other all sensual and shit.
            Or you go out to the woods and sit on your asses for hours and hours doing nothing- no exploring, no hiking, nothing. You’re not enjoying nature you’re waiting to kill something and then you come on back with whatever it is that you killed and skin its blood and guts all over the place. Must you do this? No, you’re not pastoral or agrarian and you have markets to buy food from but you just enjoy killing the things you kill. It just mystifies me and I refuse to carry a gun because I think it’s an incredibly stupid, self destructive, dangerous and rather pussy thing to do…

          • Angela Ruzzo

            It absolutely DOES make a difference how you carry an empty shotgun. If you get in the habit of carrying it empty in an unsafe position, you will start to carry it loaded in an unsafe position. This is basic NRA gun safety training instructions. And I would point out that I did not call you insulting names, but now you are calling me insulting names just because I disagree with you and I can prove I am wrong. You are obviously a man. Men can’t stand it when women are right, and when they are losing an argument because the facts are against them, the first thing they do is change the subject.

          • O Manning

            No. I’ve got a rule I’ve been taught “hundreds of times”. It says…”Make sure morons know they’re morons…it’s the only way they’ll change”. I’m just following my rule. I know you’re a liberal because the only way you know how do deal with something is to make a rule and follow it regardless of additional information or independent thinking. I know you’re a woman because you’re more concerned about your perception of “security” than logic allows.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Who said I was a Liberal? If going to NRA training classes for 10 years and following NRA gun safety guidelines makes me a liberal, then half the Republican Party are liberals. Why do idiots like you with closed minds confuse gun safety with liberal politics? Because you have a closed mind, that’s why. You need to learn to think for yourself and not spout the baloney you hear on TV and radio and right-wing conspiracy websites.

          • O Manning

            I know you’re a liberal because you tell me “what men are like”. I know you’re a liberal because you defend their talking points. I know because your response to an argument you’re not winning is “you’ve got a closed mind”. Anything else about yourself you want me to tell you?

          • Angela Ruzzo

            You don’t know a single thing about me and you never will. You would be astonished if you met me. You seem to be saying that all women are liberals – because women know what men are like. I’m just not afraid to say so. And who says I’m not winning? You’re the only one who says so. I won this discussion hands down before I started, because I have an open mind and I know the facts.
            It is people like you who, when they are losing an argument, begin to throw personal insults around to complete strangers. Since you obviously can’t read, and you obviously can’t think logically or rationally, there is clearly no point to continuing this discussion.

          • TheBidenator

            “Hillary mode”? So that means Angela is kicking your ass mercilessly like you’re teabagging moron Trey “Deliverance” Gowdy futilely trying to use a committee to score political points and create ads for the GOP?

        • O Manning

          Actually, I think the conservatives are going ballistic (interesting choice of word, by the way) at a demonstration of gun demonizing and stupidity.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Are you saying that it is “demonizing” to point out basic gun safety rules? Or are you being sarcastic? I can’t tell.

          • riledupone

            I suspect neither can he.

    • matt

      the picture shows a hunter in a perfectly acceptable “gun safe” position. ONly a moron would not know that

    • John Galt

      Yes, I recall my first break action BB gun. It was something. Until it loaded itself, closed it’s own breach, fired itself and took out my neighbor a mile away….

      • Angela Ruzzo

        You obviously never met my older brother. Sitting on the sofa in the living room, loading the BB gun carelessly at age 7, shot 3 holes through the picture window and hit his dog sitting on the front porch, narrowly missing me at age 1 in the playpen. A week later he accidentally shot The Lone Ranger on TV. My father took the gun away.

        • John Galt

          Was it a break action, breach loader? You missed my whole point, you nitwit.

          • Angela Ruzzo