Damn it, denial IS TOO a strategy

Congressfireplug Peter King (R-NY Somehow) was not at all impressed by last week’s report from the New America Foundation, which found that more Americans have been killed by rightwing terrorism than by Muslim extremists since 9/11. King serves on the House Homeland Security Committee, so he’ll have you know that mere numbers don’t tell the whole story, and also the report was carried in the New York Times, so it’s obviously worthless. There’s just no way that white supremacists and sovereign citizens are more dangerous than jihadis, because Pete King does not believe that.

On ABC’s This Week Sunday, King explained that since jihadis have killed a terrifying total of 28 people in the USA since 9/11, and non-jihadi terror attacks have killed a negligible 48, radical Islam is definitely the far greater threat:

Every murder is horrible … There is no comparison between these white supremacists and an internationally coordinated movement which, if the attacks were not stopped, we could have thousands and thousands of deaths.

King was frankly disgusted by the comparison, because come on, people, everyone knows Muslims are far scarier than rightwing guys with large weapons caches and their own weird dreams of inflicting mass casualties:

“Everything should be investigated, everything should be stopped,” King said. “But to compare these deranged white supremacists with an organized international terrorist movement, that’s The New York Times at its worst.”

Obviously. Because Islamic terrorists are organized and want to kill us all — in increments of 28 per decade, more if possible — while white supremacists are by definition deranged lone nuts who have no organizational ties whatsoever, and more importantly, speako the English.

Now, as we noted last week, the New America Foundation study did find that there was a higher number of would-be jihadis charged with terrorism or related crimes, despite the higher body count for rightwing terror attacks, which could either mean that good ol’ American know-how is more effective at killin’, or that law enforcement simply puts greater emphasis on catching jihadi plots — or in some cases, manufacturing them with the help of criminal informants.

The New York Times report also noted that a separate survey of law enforcement agencies actually rates rightwing extremists a greater concern than foreign-inspired terrorists:

A survey to be published this week asked 382 police and sheriff’s departments nationwide to rank the three biggest threats from violent extremism in their jurisdiction. About 74 percent listed antigovernment violence, while 39 percent listed “Al Qaeda-inspired” violence, according to the researchers, Charles Kurzman of the University of North Carolina and David Schanzer of Duke University.

“Law enforcement agencies around the country have told us the threat from Muslim extremists is not as great as the threat from right-wing extremists,” said Dr. Kurzman, whose study is to be published by the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security and the Police Executive Research Forum.

Well, maybe, but that’s also probably because local law enforcement agencies have all been bamboozled by the biased reporting of the New York Times.

Also too, just in case total numbers are of any concern to you, the New America Foundation study excluded acts of mass violence that didn’t have an identifiable ideological component, such as the Sandy Hook massacre or the shootings at the movie theater in Aurora, Colorado. Since 9/11, the total number of victims in those perfectly ordinary non-terrorism mass killings is far higher than the number killed by terrorists, just as the total of mass killing victims is dwarfed by the over 30,000 people killed with guns in homicides, suicides, and accidents every year — a total that in 2015 is likely to surpass the number of people killed in car crashes for the first time ever.

What we are saying is, if you see someone with a headscarf trying to board an airplane, you should panic and call the police.

[NYT / The Hill / The Atlantic / Law Enforcement Assessment of the Violent Extremism Threat]

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  • Nounverb911

    Well Petey, if you’re not sure, ask your pals in the IRA or Lord Mountbatten’s family.

    • Vienna Woods

      I was in England when that happened. One of the headlines: “These Evil Bastards” (not the Times or Guardian, I’m pretty sure)

  • Lefty Frizzell

    Well, obviously, if they’re killing black people, that won’t terrorize white people much.

  • FauxAntocles

    Those 30,000 deaths don’t really count because the gun trade is good for the Murikan economy.

    • Blank Ron

      Dammit, FA, stop quoting NRA brochures, would you?

  • MsAnthropesMr

    and more importantly, speako the English.

    Not sure that’s English.

    • Nounverb911

      What do they speak in Wassilla?

      • arglebargle

        They speak in tongues. Forked, of course.

        • beatbort

          They speak Meth-opotamian in Wassilla, I believe

          • Amy!

            Which PROOOVES the intellekchal ackamen of the Palins!!!1!

            Errybuddy knows that meth is hard!

      • Mary Sandoras

        Wassillaneese. A form of pig latin intertwined with a word salad dialect.

    • arglebargle

      If English was good enough for Jesus it’s good enough for me.

  • Vienna Woods
    • Anarchy Pony

      It’s YOOOOOGE!

  • Nounverb911

    “if you see someone with a headscarf trying to board an airplane, you should panic and call the police.”

    Even Audrey Hepburn will turn herself in.

  • Bill Slider

    Extreme Muslims are taught to hate, but for right-wing Christians, it’s those brain implants in their jeans.

  • AngryBlakGuy

    …you forgot the “Melanin Multiplayer Effect”

    1+1(B*)= Terrorism!!!

    “B” representing skin darkness

    • Nounverb911

      Boehner’s a terrorist now?

      • AngryBlakGuy

        …Yep! And so is Rachel Dolezal!!!

        • Blank Ron

          Though less so now that she’s stopped the daily trips to the tanning salon.

      • Tio_Doidinho

        Going by the House’s voting record over the last five years? Oh hell yeah.

      • Mary Sandoras

        Agent Orange has been known to terrorize. I mean repealing Obamacare 52 times is a form of terrorism.

  • LarryHoudini

    “That’s The New York Times at it’s worst?” He obviously never read a Maureen Dowd column emasculating Al Gore or Obama, or any of Bill Kristol’s op-eds.

  • Lizzietish81


  • AngryBlakGuy

    …at least Jihadis “admit” that they are Jihadists. 99% of white sumpremacist dont even have the balls to own up to their ideology


      Yeah, but to be fair, 99% of white supremacists don’t have the skills to articulate their ideology

      • Redgyal

        And how many of the general population would readily self identify as white supremacists? Because what you said kind of explains that, you know?

        • Querolous

          To these yahoos “white supremacist” is redundant. There can only be one type of supremacist. Or would they say highfalutin. Them polysyllabic werdzs are confuzin’.

  • dslindc

    But what does Sister Peggy Noonan think? I can’t go on Pete King’s (R-Head up his ass) opinion alone!

    • Mary Sandoras

      I’m waiting for Gary Legum to wake her up.

      • cousin itt

        No matter what he does, she’ll just take it on the gin.

        • Mary Sandoras

          Than fall back asleep again and have wet dreams about St. Reagan.

          • chicken thief

            Just like every GOP POTUS candidate since 2008.

          • Land Shark

            that include the chimp, I assume.

  • deanbooth

    So, more generally, we have to worry about Christian and Muslim right-wing loons.

    • Blank Ron

      Best tl:dr today.

  • Lizzietish81

    Of course this probably also doesn’t include the deaths of black men at the hands of white cops.

    Cause cops can’t be terrorists!

    • Anarchy Pony

      Well, DUH! They’re cops, they’re automatically the good guys! Mom and dad told me so!

      • Blank Ron

        Were they hiding signs of a beating when they told you that?

  • SigDeFlyinMonky

    Sovereign Citizens say NO! To firearm regulation, health care, dental care, mental health, education and reason.

    • Lizzietish81

      Except for their own.

  • BeliTsari

    Just sum good ol’ boys, always barein’ their arms

    beats all you’ve never saw, been in trouble with the law

    since the day they was born.

    Waturin’ dat TREE n’ keepin’ WHITES free!

    Hussein might jus’ git ’em, but the Feds never will…

    Cookiin’ their meth, the only way they know how, that’s just a little bit more

    than the law will allow

    Just sum good ol’ boys wouldn’t change if they could,

    killin’ fer Massa, like some Randian inverse Robin Hoods

  • Haribo Lector

    ” everything should be stopped”

    Actually, this succinctly sums-up everything Republicans believe.

  • cousin itt

    But this secret lair has thus far proved almost as impenetrable as Tora Bora.


    Who votes for these people? Who looks at their choices and says “I want this guy to represent me. I want the nation, nay the world, to know this is how I think”?

    • jmk

      He represents a district on the South Shore of Long Island that is overwhelmingly white and Catholic, although it includes several towns and villages with relatively substantial non-white populations.
      Let’s just say that a lot of New York City cops (and firemen) live in his district.

    • DemmeFatale

      It is a shockingly insular community. You’d think that it’s proximity to NYC would mean that his district was a little more worldly. You’d be wrong. I actually lived there, and when we took our daycare on a field trip to NYC, some of the teachers had never been to the city before.
      We moved from L.I. to London, (thanks for supporting the IRA all those years, Pete!). Many of the locals could not believe we would leave the paradise that is Long Island. This is best summed up by our pharmacist who asked: “Can you get a good corned beef sandwich in London?!” (Then he looked at me as if to say “nuff said.” It was an L.I. mic drop moment.)

  • Haribo Lector

    Of course there are more would-be jihadis charged with crimes; you only have to be brown and mutter something anti-government under your breath to be charged with a terrorism-related crime. If the same standards were applied to white supremacists, basically 50% of people with a Facebook would be in jail right now.

    • Mary Sandoras

      With $75 billion in DHS funding being brown is optional.

  • marxalot

    All those newsletters and websites and gatherings and so on that the white-power and right-wing types read, comment on (unlike Wonkette, where comments are not allowed) and attend hardly count as “organized,” I guess, so these “lone wolves” aren’t really part of anything you’d call “organizations.”

  • Olav_Pompatus

    “And when you really get down to it, shouldn’t we only count the black deaths on a 3/5ths basis, because Constitution?”

    — P. King

  • JustPixelz

    “…over 30,000 people killed with guns in homicides, suicides, and accidents every year.”

    It’s a 9/11 every 35 days.


      Yeah, but what’s the real estate toll?

    • chicken thief

      Never remember!


    One key takeaway here is that white supremacists have poor organizational skills.

    • Anarchy Pony

      They’re all rugged individualists, so they’ll be goddamned if they’re gonna let someone else tell them how to murder people and overthrow the government.

      • Blank Ron

        That’s certainly what they all say at the meetings.

  • SecludedCompound

    “Works well with others” doesn’t seem to be a trait that most folks assign to most Nazi sympathizers. So, not dangerous!

  • VandeGraf

    King is giving aid and support to right-wing terrorists, but on the back side. It’s the way “connected” politicos work. The political wing always plays the wounded victim and tries to calm the water so the violent wackos can get on with their work.

    • jmk

      Oh, he’s got a record of giving aid and support to terrorists up front, also too… he was one of the IRA’s biggest supporters, and once said “If civilians are killed in an attack on a military installation, it is certainly regrettable, but I will not morally blame the IRA for it.”

  • OrdinaryJoe

    White man brutally murdering innocent people in the name of white Jebuzz. Misguided patriot. Islamic worshipping man brutally murdering innocent people in the name of Ayraab Mohammed. Jihaddi terrorist. Stupid librules can’t sees the difference.

  • beatbort

    It has probably been remarked on in the past, but I can’t help but feel that Peter King is perfectly named. He really is a royal dick.

    • Ironic for someone who’s a Republican both in the US and Irish senses.

  • Spotts1701

    No, Congressman. What’s insulting is listening to someone who was all buddy-buddy with the freakin’ IRA preach about ebil Muslins. You didn’t seem to be too concerned when the terrorists were, as Lord John Marbury put it, wearing green neckties and singing “Danny Boy”. Those guys you lauded as patriots and freedom fighters even as they were blowing up half of Belfast.

  • calliecallie

    “over 30,000 people killed with guns in homicides, suicides, and accidents every year— a total that in 2015 is likely to surpass the number of people killed in car crashes for the first time ever.”

    There’s a whole dedicated national effort to reduce the number of vehicle deaths, called “Toward Zero Deaths.” Can we get “Toward Zero Deaths” for guns now, please?

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      I think it more likely that the two will start cancelling each other out, sort of like how diet coke cancels out the calories of the chocolate chip cookie you just ate.
      Also, they have something like that, with moms and stuff, and they get threatened all the time because gasp, they are threatening liberties with their mommin and not wanting their kids to die of gun related deaths

    • CognizantImpiety

      How about worrying about the 500,000 deaths per year from tobacco products FIRST? Or the 150,000 americans per year who die from alcohol use?

      Let’s get real or gtfo.

      • dshwa

        Straw man! Get your Straw Man here! Same recycled Fresh new Straw Man!

        • doktorzoom

          Goes great with Red Herring!

      • Enfant Terrible

        Adam Lanza didn’t kill 20 children and 6 adults in less than 5 minutes with second-hand smoke.

      • Blank Ron

        First, schmirst. Do ’em all at the same time. Hell, not like we’ve only got one guy we can put on the job.

  • Kat Anyperson

    Poor things. They can’t rally their base through fear of their own base. No wonder the disconnect.

  • SK

    “Everything should be investigated, everything should be stopped,” King said

    Benghazi hearings, 75th edition? Check.
    Republican Congress? Check.

  • fawkedifiknow

    Tea Party and NRA members take offense when Peter King says white supremacists and gun nuts are unorganized terrorists and lone wolves.

    • BeliTsari

      I believe Jesus specified “well regulated,” in His Blessed 2nd Commandment 2 de Cornstitushon?
      White supremacists down Wall Street tell Ailes, who tells Megyn, then it’s… “Fly, FLY my pretties!”

  • Bitter Scribe

    …and more importantly, speako the English.

    That’s speaka de English. Use proper grammar.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Of course white people can’t be terrorists.

    Which means the IRA is in the clear, according to mucker Pete King.

  • JohnDThorpe

    Peter King supports IRA terrorism. He is literally a right-wing, white terrorist telling us right-wing white terrorists don’t exist…and we’re supposed to buy that horseshit?

  • docterry6973

    Only Muslims can be terrorists. That’s just science, right Pete?

    As so many are pointing out, the IRA were super especially extremely NOT terrorists no matter how many car bombs they set off.

    • Blank Ron

      It’s the accent. How could a terrorist possibly have such an ADORABLE accent?

  • jangoodell

    Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is Caucasian, Pete. Not a terrorist (I know Muslim). So is it race he needs to talk about or the wrong religion. Roof was a Christian (NOT) so not a terrorist.

  • John Norris

    IIRC, Rep King may have learned a lot about white terrorists and international terrorism back in the days he fronted for the Irish Republican Army’s gun buying fund raisers.

    • Me not sure

      Oh, do you mean The Irish Widows and Orphans Fund? In their day they created quite a few widows and orphans.

  • Shartiblartfat

    Is it me, or does Senator King not resemble Reid Fleming, “The World’s Toughest Milkman?”

    • TheBidenator

      He’s Rep King thank Spaghetti…if New York was ever dumb enough to make him a senator…

  • Rick Hill

    “But to compare these deranged white supremacists with an organized international terrorist movement, that’s The New York Timesat its worst.”

    Eh. Maybe he’s right. I mean look at the international network those guys have pulled off and our homegrown white terrorists have a breakdown if the Walmart runs out of those good poly blend sheets they like to make their robes out of.

    • Querolous

      good poly blend sheets made in China

  • Blank Ron

    If I see Irish Pete boarding a plane, can I panic and call the police then?

  • TheBidenator

    In fairness Peter King is dumb enough that he doesn’t consider the IRA a terrorist organization so the problem is he’s one of those Pam Gellar myopic “only Muslins are turrists!” style idiots. Therefore in his world it all makes sense…

    • david green

      Maybe, if ISIS were to change its initials to IRA (and maybe hide their brown faces behind kerchiefs, they could get Peter King to host a fundraiser.

      • OldMayfly

        Very likely. I used to work with someone in King’s district. She referred to King as “my congressboy.”

  • Beowoof14

    Why Tim McVeigh and Dylan Roof just trying to bring us a Xtian Sharia society. These types should be fought at every turn.

  • Vecciojohn

    I liked this character better when Carol O’Connor played him.

    • Suttree

      Archie had redeeming qualities though. This guy is just a pos.

  • mtn_philosoph

    Congressfireplug Peter King (R-Some Bar Stool in Riverhead) …

  • NoniMausa

    “…everyone knows Muslims are far scarier than rightwing guys with large weapons caches and their own weird dreams of inflicting mass casualties…” and who are ON THE SAME LANDMASS and don’t even need a airplane or a boat or even a passport to steal a car or hitchhike or even walk on their own feet to where their victims are awaiting another “isolated incident.”

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