Thank goodness racism is over

[Update: There have been new developments; please see end of post]

Oh, look, it’s more Not Racial Transcendence, in a story that might have been huge if it hadn’t been overshadowed by Wednesday’s massacre in Charleston. Two cops in Anniston, Alabama, have been suspended after being outed as members of the neo-Confederate hate group the League of the South. The Southern Poverty Law Center’s Hatewatch blog identified Lt. Josh Doggrell and Lt. Wayne Brown as members of the white secessionist group Wednesday, and the city wasted little time in getting them off the street and putting them on administrative leave Wednesday afternoon. Not that there’s anything racist about the League of the South — they only want a white homeland, and while they don’t necessarily hate blacks, they don’t consider them actual Southerners.

The SPLC report includes video of Doggrell speaking at the LOSers’ 2013 national conference; he had all sorts of cheerful things to say about sympathy for the League’s ideas among the ranks of Southern cops:

Doggrell said it was “wonderful to be around sanity” at the convention, where he was surrounded by fellow southern nationalists. He also described a job interview where he worried that his involvement with the League might be an issue; he told his superior he would never “sell out” his position with the group, and “if it came down to it, I’d choose the League.” He was pleasantly surprised when his boss said, “We pretty much think like you do.” Doggrell said that most cops he knew weren’t quite ready to take the leap and join a nice secessionist group like the league, but “they’re much closer than they were ten or fifteen years ago.” Progress!

The SPLC article says Doggrell had excellent news for the LOSers and their dream of a new Confederacy:

“The vast majority of men in uniform are aware that they’re southerners,” Doggrell said, touching on gun rights and the perennial fear among extremist groups that the Second Amendment is under attack. “And kith and kin comes before illegal national mandates.”

Lt. Doggrell reportedly joined the LOS in 1995 while in college after meeting LOS president Michael Hill; he was so intrigued by Hill’s ideas that he served as chair of the University of Alabama’s chapter — hey, U of Alabama, did you know you have a chapter of a hate group there? — and formed his very own chapter in 2009. As for Lt. Wayne Brown, SPLC had less information on his involvement with the League, simply noting that he and Doggrell had attended that 2013 convention together. A full video of Doggrell’s speech has been on YouTube since 2013, but the SPLC only recently learned of it.

When the SPLC brought the video to the attention of the Anniston PD, city manager Brian Johnson initially said there was nothing the city could do about officers’ membership in a “civic club,” and added that while it was unfortunate Doggrell was involved with an icky group, the city’s hands were tied, because First Amendment and stuff, and it’s probably even illegal to fire someone for being a member of the KKK:

We could not terminate an employee solely on his or her membership in a legal, lawfully formed, civic club or organization … I do not believe that someone could be terminated solely based on their private sector membership in a properly formed legal organization — as hateful as the KKK might be.

Once the Hatewatch piece went online and started getting attention, the two officers were quickly suspended, because apparently the city decided that having open members of a hate group on the force might interfere with their ability to cop good. Anniston should be especially sensitive to the problem of racist cops, given that it was the spot where one of the Freedom Riders’ buses was burned and its occupants beaten by Klansmen in 1961, as Anniston cops stood by and watched.

Gawker notes that the city quickly shifted to Damage Control mode, and Anniston Mayor Vaughn Stewart tweeted in a series of messages Thursday:

Like many of you, I was shocked yesterday by the allegations brought against two Anniston police officers. Rest assured, I am working hard to get to the bottom of it. Anniston has no tolerance for racism and hatred. Anniston has come a long way since bigots attacked a bus of Freedom Riders in 1961. We will continue to move forward, not backward.

Maybe Mayor Stewart can take some comfort from Thursday’s Wall Street Journal editorial explaining that while, sure, nine murders in a black church may make people think of the 1960s, really, we shouldn’t get too worried about racism, because the South has “moved forward to replace the system that enabled racist killings like those in the Birmingham church.” Good to know.

Back then and before, the institutions of government — police, courts, organized segregation — often worked to protect perpetrators of racially motivated violence, rather than their victims.

But now, racists are ostracized and condemned, and we no longer have to worry about institutional racism, because “the system and philosophy of institutionalized racism identified by Dr. King no longer exists.” Except maybe for a few racist cops who get applause for telling a racist group that cops all across the South are very sympathetic to that group’s ideas. And while there’s no doubt a lot of wishful thinking on Lt. Dogrell’s part — everyone agrees with us! — there’s probably also a fair amount of truth as well.

The confluence of the SPLC article and the murders in the Charleston church apparently inspired LOSer president Michael Hill to reprint on Thursday a blog post called “In Defense of Our Blood,” about the need for Southern secession and the defense of European blood and masculinity (he really does not like “metrosexuals,” so we’ll assume the article is a few years old). In addition to the defense of the Confederate flag that we noted earlier today, Hill has added another blog post, a “personal note” about how mean all the liberals are to the poor persecuted heroes of the League of the South, and how little it bothers him, because it means he’s WINNING just like Charlie Sheen:

Like many League members, I don’t have to worry about losing my job if I’m too politically incorrect; conversely, as League President I am more likely to lose my job if I’m not politically incorrect enough! So, let the leftist progs wailed and scream, whine and moan, and call me “racist” and “anti-Semite.” I’ll just smile and keep on pounding home our message of the survival, well-being, and independence of the Southern people.

And just like his post about the beauty of the Confederate flag, there’s not a word about the murders in Charleston. Why would Hill want to sully his beautiful ideology with any acknowledgment that its logical outcome is murder?

UPDATE: Lt. Dogrell has been fired, and Lt. Brown has retired. And the city of Anniston will be “reevaluating its policy regarding employees’ membership in organizations to avoid any future situations similar to this.”

If you hit the WSJ paywall, just google the title, “The Charleston Shooting: an echo of 52 years ago” and click the linky.

[WSJ / SPLC Hatewatch / / Gawker / Update:]

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  • Lady Bug

    Why is Wonkette so racist against racists?111!!! HUH?1!!!1111

    • chicken thief

      YOU’RE the real racist for pointing out how racist the Wonkette is against racists!!!!!

      • Lady Bug

        Why do you want to holocaust me?!!!!!!111

        Is it because I’m sexy and beautiful?

        • Msgr_Moment


          • Lady Bug

            I’m collecting white sheets for all of the needy, sexy, racist people out there.

  • Lady Bug

    Go Fund Me page up in 3…2…1..

  • SadDemInTex

    So they had to be named Doggerell and Brown….Seems like they should be characters in a racist Gilbert and Sullivan operetta.

  • Lefty Frizzell

    Lt Josh Doggrell, Alabama cop and member of The League of the South?

    The story writes itself!

  • Notreelyhelping

    I thought that’s what they called a union.

  • PubOption

    Did Doggerell write all his reports in bad poetry?

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Darnit, you beat me to it.

    • Riley Whodat Venable

      That and gay sea shanties.

  • Villago Delenda Est


    Looks like the Anniston PD has a serious problem. It’s filled with neo-Confederate shit from top to bottom. These guys were suspended for getting caught, not for being neo-Confederates.

    • superfluity15

      Press conference starting now. Expectation is that they’ll be fired.

  • Cismontane

    All I can say is, in other time in history, a public official who gives overt support to the cause of a failed rebellion whose partisans still commit acts of terrorism against the country to which they owe allegiance, would’ve received a traitor’s punishment. In merry olde England, somebody like Doggrell might’ve been hanged, drawn, quartered and disemboweled for less, not merely suspended.

    • Vecciojohn

      And now you know what made olde Englande so merrie.

    • bobbert

      And “suspended” would have had a different meaning.

  • Fartknocker

    Doggrell sounds pretty Duggerish, which itself should raise a big red flag.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Two Joshes don’t make a civil right.

      • jmk


    • RevZafod

      Josh Doggrell, just slightly changed, becomes Josh Dugger II.

  • chicken thief

    “I’ll just smile and keep on pounding home our message of the survival, well-being, and independence of the Southern people.”

    The WELL-BEING of the Southern people?! Yo, you ignorant fuck, have you even been to the South?! They are in the bottom of every metric one can measure a state by: education, life expectancy, income, employment, etc etc.

  • AngryBlakGuy

    …geez guys, can you take it easy? I’m down to my last racist meme!!!!

  • LarryHoudini

    “Wonderful to be around sanity?”
    Hmm . . . I would have said something more like, “Nauseating to be be breathing the same air as fellow white American males who have learned nothing from our sickeningly unfair history of racial intolerance.”

  • weejee

    And who will be the first Rethug Prez candidate to mention that racism is alive and well in America?

    • Vecciojohn

      When was the last time?

      • They say it all the time, approvingly, just not when the cameras are rolling.

      • Biff52

        Or the first?

      • ButIKnowWhatILike


    • jmk

      Well, my guess is AOT, K if by racism you mean reverse racism.

      Oh, you mean the actual, real kind of racism that actually exists?

      NOT, K.

    • Relativicus

      There’s no line for any of the GOP’ers, but I’ve got Sanders at 4-5, Clinton at 7-1, and Martin O’Malley at “who the fuck is Martin O’Malley?”

  • SK

    the city wasted little time in getting them off the street and putting them on administrative leave

    Because suspending them without pay would be too premature. There is no way to know the real reason for their membership in the neo-con group. Why, they might have joined to learn about heritage and tradition.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Another undercover operation blown by the SPLC. When will they learn?

    • Msgr_Moment

      Maybe it was anti-Christian bias.

    • Relativicus

      “Because suspending them without pay would be too premature.”

      Unions. They help the bad, to protect the good. And the officers were fired two days later, so…

  • chicken thief

    I believe something is being pounded home, Mr Hill, but suspect it’s just your friends up your ass.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Like many of you, I was shocked yesterday by the allegations brought against two Anniston police officers.

    said mayor Vaughn Stewart, who went on to say,

    Because even though city manager Brian Johnson knew all about it, he never mentioned it to me. But why would he? I’m the mayor; he’s the city manager. We hardly ever talk. Totally different jobs. I hardly know the guy. I mean, maybe he’s on my Christmas card list? But this is just not the sort of thing two almost strangers who happen to share the responsibility of running the city of Anniston would ever discuss in one of their brief, infrequent interactions.

    • SK

      Need more budget for “team-building” and “improving inter-office communication.”

      • Vecciojohn

        I think we need to leverage something. Or maybe a level-set.

        • chicken thief

          “team-building” and “improving inter-office communication.”

          Ribs and beers at Jimmy’s BBQ.

        • Left Coast Tom

          Needs moar synergy.

      • Also, too, tanks and other military grade gear for the police!

    • superfluity15

      I’m originally from Anniston. The mayor is sort of known as this big Obama-loving liberal (Anniston is majority black). I’m told that–as crazy as it sounds–the city manager actually did not notify anyone of his convo with the SPLC.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        That’s interesting. I wonder if they went to a city manager system and made the mayor perhaps something of a figurehead(?) when that whole Voting Rights Act unpleasantness meant the mayor could be black now?

        • superfluity15

          That’s pretty much exactly what happened. The mayor is essentially just the chairman of the city council. He’s white, but won on the strength of the black vote.

          • superfluity15

            The fact that he called the Klansmen scum who firebombed the Freedom Rider bus “bigots” is a dead giveaway. May sound like nothing to our librul ears, but that kind of language “don’t fly down there” for your typical mouthbreather.

    • SmotPoker

      “conservatives have outraced parody.”

      Nice turn of a phrase. Well done.

  • JohnnyZhivago2

    Trivia: Has the League of the South ever won a World Series?

    • SK

      Nah, they were eliminated by Satchell Paige in the Inter-division playoffs each year.

      • just_jim

        Satchel Paige??? They wish. They lost to the ball-girls, and didn’t even make it to the playoffs.

    • chicken thief

      No, but they still gave themselves trophies, white gold, of course, because they are all special little snowflakes.

    • SmotPoker

      Funny you bring up sports.

      Check out the current racial makeup of the 4 big leagues in the US (NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL). It’s enough to set the racists heads on fire.

      Hint: Unless you play hockey, it ain’t looking too good for the “superior” white race….

  • docterry6973

    In the face of the Charleston massacre, can anyone see a way to make white supremacy just a little bit less acceptable in the national discourse?

    I can’t, but maybe someone can.

  • AngryBlakGuy

    …just being honest; we should have hung every last one of these treasonous pieces of shit after we kicked their asses in the Civil War. The term “Blow Back” was coined in the 80’s, but honestly this is the basic origin! I’m tired of dragging these motherfukkers into modern day society. It’s like driving on one flat tire!!!

  • kindness

    They were suspended because they belonged to the Republican Party then? That’s harsh even by my local People’s Socialist Republic of California standards. Harsh but I’m down with it.

    • chicken thief

      WHOAAAAA NELLY!!!! There is no need for that kind of talk. Ok, ok, they may be racist fucks. I mean, it appears they are. I’m not going to argue it even though they have not had their day in court.

      But to call them REPUBLICANS?! That’s just over the top….

      • gedjcj

        Desperate times…

  • VandeGraf

    There are a boatload Native American tribes which probably agree that these clowns are not Southerners (whatever that’s supposed to mean) any more than the blacks that were shanghaied to work the plantations. Sadly, there’s probably not a European state that will willingly repatriate the lot of them.

    • Last Hussar

      Fuck NO. Many Democrats are too right wing for many of us.

    • Last Hussar

      Fuck NO. Many Democrats are too right wing for many of us.

    • Msgr_Moment

      The Donetsk Republic?

  • borninatrailer
    • sorleyboy

      Doggrell. It is the same as the old French/Walloon name “Degrelle.”

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        The fired, racist, LOSer cop Doggrell is no Léon Degrelle.
        And the south is no Wallonia!
        USA! USA! USA!

  • superfluity15

    Update: The officers have been fired.



      • xoxo

      • Msgr_Moment

        You know who else always capitalized all his nouns? I mean, other than Luther, Nietzsche, Freud, Beethoven, Bach, and Einstein?

        • Relativicus

          John Coktoasten (it’s Dutch- Romanian)?

        • Mehmeisterjr

          Even Hitler didn’t capitalize all the letters IN EVERY WORD!!!1!,! That is more along the lines of Brony-stalker-McDenialweirdo. We’ll see him again, briefly, you betcha.

      • jmk

        Dok will never, ever, ever be your boyfriend. Let it go, cupcake.

        • Bitter Scribe

          Existential moment: I was typing something rude that ended with “…until you get banned,” and when I tried to post it, I got the message, “You are trying to reply to a message that was deleted by the moderator.”

          I miss the old moderation queue, but alert admins are the next best thing. Well done.

        • Relativicus

          Awwww, I missed it.

          • sillyclucker

            Me too. Damn job makes me miss the good stuff. Bet it was ole Brony Killer with a new name.

          • Mehmeisterjr


          • sillyclucker

            Me too. Damn job makes me miss the good stuff. Bet it was ole Brony Killer with a new name.

          • Mehmeisterjr

            It was kind of cute in a kind of creepy, stalker kind of not-cute-at-all.

          • gedjcj

            Well, maybe I’ll get to see some of it in the Deleted Comments; The bronyphobe was pretty weird, was he the same “Sir Capsalot” who was driveling about “proper attribution” when being mocked in the Deleted Comments?

  • tegrat

    Actually it’s probably perfectly legal to terminate them, in fact I’ll bet that in that state it’s legal to terminate them for being gay. LOSers are not a protected class, AFAIK.

    • Blank Ron


  • Me not sure

    A lot of the racial “progress” one sees in the south is merely a thin veneer used to provide camouflage for age-old racial attitudes. The attitude here is that if acting racially enlightened will advance any sort of commercial enterprise it’s better to appear to be “New Southers” even if it goes against your true feelings.

  • alnnc

    I’m not sure where the right wing gets the idea that anytime they are criticized, it constitutes whining or fear from the left. This was big during Palin’s few minutes of national fame. Calling someone an asshole or an idiot does not exactly mean you are whining or afraid of them. It simply means you think they are an asshole or an idiot. Or both.

    • Relativicus

      My favorite bit is that up until the late Clinton years, when everybody started really laughing at conservatives (while still electing them), one of the dominant conservative complaints against liberals was that liberals were always playing the victim. Havent heard that one in a long time now.

      • just_jim

        Really? I’ve heard it a lot. Along with the claim that they’re the real victims.

        No consistency isn’t their strong suit. Why did you ask?

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Good news! These League of the South losers are virulent racists and relentless traitors to the nation.
    Lock ’em all up.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      PS: A great job by the SPLC exposing these LOSer, racist cops.
      If you have not made a donation recently to the SPLC, they are a most deserving cause.

    • Relativicus

      I appreciate the sentiment, but you’re only feeding right wing trolls by speaking of locking up hate groups. The best antiseptic for these assholes is shining a light upon them, not violating the First Amendment, as you note in your postscript.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        I actually agree with u. I hoped my “lock ’em up” would be seen as hyperbole and a goad, – not actual intent. But ur right, they’ll probably take it literally.

  • Mehmeisterjr

    Watch your back, Mark Fuhrman, there are two new Fox police experts waiting in the wings.

  • onedollarjuana

    “…independence of the Southern people”

    How can we make this happen sooner?

    • Playonwords

      As soon as they can work out how to keep getting the cash from all the Northern states that pay their way.

  • sorleyboy

    Yep, Anniston “has come far” since the Freedom Rider days. What used to be a prosperous little city is now the most dangerous city in Alabama, according to a recent poll. But anything to placate the NAACP and its liberal/prog allies.

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      Because polls are science fact with conservatives! Keep forgetting that.

      If this was snark, I missed it entirely

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        Not snark. He posts racist comments on many boards.

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          oh I know, I was just joshin. It is sort of fun how he sort of looks like obi wan, only with much more hate and a lot less wisdom bout the eyes
          and probably not the bitchin britt accent

      • sorleyboy

        Have you been to Anniston lately . . . or at all?

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          Have you watched anything that is not on Fox today…or at all?
          Srsly man, you know they embed subliminal messages in that stuff, right? They’re owned by multi-billionaires (the same people who run wall street, by the way, and the wall street journal, AND the super market tabloids!) who are trying to get their viewers so messed up in the head that they turn a blind eye to the fact that they are robbing this country blind and sticking all the money off shore, so when it collapses they can skip off to tahiti.
          No, really, they do this stuff. Try turning off that channel, bet your finger starts itching and you break out in a cold sweat.

          I can do tin foil hat wearing too :) Also, I have been to Anniston lately, and at all. No different than any other town in the union, poor and rich parts of it, same as it ever was. What is different is that your subliminal messaging TV and radio is forcing you see that there is a difference so they can continue to keep you sideblinded by your own hate and fear, and they can continue to suck you for every penny that you have

          Edit: Oh, and I said Union and meant Union. South North East or West, this is the United States of America.

          • sorleyboy

            I don’t even have a television.

          • Relativicus

            You have the Internet.

            *Or don’t you?!!?*

        • Relativicus

          I haven’t. Is it really dangerous? How did you make it out alive? Were you the one they let live to tell the story, or did you hide behind a woman or something until the Gang of Thugs passed by?

  • Callyson

    I’m sick of all the racism from the wingnuts, and I don’t even have to live with it on a daily basis. Jon Stewart said it best:

    You’re tired of hearing about it? Imagine how fucking exhausting it is living it.

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      Oh Jon, always telling us precisely how it actually really is as a rebuttal to the constant hate spewing lies of the A Idiots. Dang liberal

  • Joshua Norton

    Seeing as how it’s Alabama, I am absolutely stunned that membership in the League of the South isn’t mandatory.

  • Charles Cates

    These are home-grown terrorists. Any police officer involved would not hesitate to beat up or frame blacks. Anyone interviewing for a federal, state, or local law enforcement position should be required to take a polygraph answering questions about their racial views.

  • Jen_Baker_VA

    wait wait wait, they don’t wanna be in the union and hate the united states and want their own country….
    and are STILL cleaving to the 2nd amendment? Do they not hear the stupid shit coming out of their own mouths?

    • The 2nd Amendment made it into the CSA constitution also too. (Most of it was of course copy-pasted from the USA constitution of the time, with extra “the right to bear slaves” added.)

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Score update:
    SPLC: 2
    LOS: ZERO!

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Someone please tell me when all these assholes are going to move to Texas and secede already.

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      I have decided they can’t have Texas. We paid for Texas with money and blood (after the Texans had their asses handed to them) so it is therefore ours.
      If they want their own country, they can go fight Isis for that miserable strip of desert or go join that dude who claimed land in the name of his princess daughter. They can’t have ANY America. None of it.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        None! Not one square inch!!
        There are many fine folks in Texas, even if their state government is a total embarrassment.

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          I just think it is time we take this country back from the racist terrorist traitorous fucknuts and Make America Great again :)
          USA USA USA

          • Blank Ron

            This x 1000. I’d love to see our neighbour to the south be the country it has always claimed it was.

      • Wombat

        We’ve probably still got the receipt around here somewhere…

    • JohnR

      I agree with the others here, remember what we learned during the Bush Regime, love it or leave it. The only legitimate revolution happens in the voting booth, if you/we don’t like the result then we have to work harder. They don’t get to carve off a piece of the country, but are welcome to leave.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      You want Somalia on your southern border?

      • richardgrabman

        Do we in Mexico want Somalia on our northern border? Bad enough what we have now.

  • JohnR

    Second Amendment gun fuckers.

  • Relativicus

    “Why would Hill want to sully his beautiful ideology with any acknowledgment that its logical outcome is murder?”

    Oh, I see the problem here…

    • gedjcj

      So, is this pic a thing on the intertoobz, cause I’ve seen this car in my neighborhood…

    • gedjcj

      So, is this pic a thing on the intertoobz, cause I’ve seen this car in my neighborhood…

  • jw

    Wait – let me guess – he gets to keep his pension.

  • Celtic_Gnome

    “…he really does not like “metrosexuals,” so we’ll assume the article is a few years old…”

    Freaked out by “metrosexuals”? Oh, man, this guy just screams closet case.

  • Haribo Lector

    I find the concept of ‘white secessionism’ baffling. Do they mean just their state? Or are they like those black separatist groups who want a black-only country they can live in? Because if it’s the latter, it seems pretty silly for white people to pine for a white-controlled country they can live in when they already live in one.

  • Portia Elm

    I wonder how many LOSers need to have their DNA tested.

    • CriticalDragon1177

      Yeah I would bet that much like Craig Cobb, most of them probably are not “pure white” anyway.

      Craig Cobb, White Supremacist, Learns He’s Part African

      I mean many of them probably have ancestors who were so good at “passing for white” that even their children didn’t know they were “black.” These people who call for an all white state, usually have no idea that there is no such thing as a “pure race.”

  • Bielzebubba

    “our message of the survival, well-being, and independence of the Southern people.

    Hmmm … d’you suppose the “Southern people” are curiously uniform in pigmentation?

    • Unforgotten

      (In his mind, and in the minds of all in the attendance)
      Of course yes! There are other people living there but:
      a) They’re ‘people’, not really people.
      b) They’re not real Southerners.
      c) They’re will have, at best, 3/5 of a full citizenship.
      d) They won’t be able to register to thanks to the _____________ Law (that will be the very first law enacted by the ‘new’ South).
      e) All of the above.

  • NorthStarSpanx

    Doggrell said it was “wonderful to be
    around sanity” at the convention, where he was surrounded by fellow
    southern nationalists.

    Sarah Palin called sweat from her 10 mile runs, “her sanity.” and some of her best speeches came from these sanity runs.

    So, why you hate America so much Wonkette?

  • topjob66t

    Hell. What’s so special here. Other than the firings and suspension not with standing.
    I applied for a bank job about a gazillian years ago with intent to rob it. And I was hired! But that fact that I was hired gave me such a giggle fit that I never showed up for the first day and never more either.
    Those cops don’t/get get the giggles huh?

  • How odd I thought Dylann Roof’s racist beliefs were suppose to be the result of nothing more than “one bad apple” not something shared and entrenched in authoritative power. Keep these up and we might think that our whole country has a problem with institutionalized racism that’s not just limited to one cretinous asshole with a gun.

    Well let’s not go nuts here.

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