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Was 19 Kids And Counting also the name of Josh Duggar's bucket list?

In Touch Weekly is doing the journalism again, having obtained ANOTHER police report through a Freedom Of Information Act request, pertaining to young Josh Duggar’s sister touching. A lot of it rehashes what we already know, but we get a couple of new, specific details, to help us all put a fine point on how grossed out we are by this. For one thing, the report states that Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar were told not only by their daughters, but by Josh himself, on three separate occasions, that he just couldn’t stop fondling his sisters –one of whom was only five years old — in their beds at night. And his parents still waited 16 MONTHS to do anything about it, even after being told “multiple times.” The new report claims Ma and Pa were just shrugging it off all those times Josh told them, “I am so sorry, for I have fallen short and diddled your younger girl children once again.” What did they say, those “multiple times?” “Oh, Josh, we’ve told you TIME AND TIME AGAIN. The only girl you’re allowed to diddle against her will is your Christian Wife, when you are older. You’re GROUNDED from homeschool, for a week!”

Legal experts told In Touch, “Jim Bob and Michelle could have faced six years in prison for their inaction, if the statute of limitations had not expired.” Well, thank goodness they didn’t go to jail, because then the world wouldn’t have gotten to learn about clown car vaginas and Christian side-hugs on the TLC channel every week!

The new report is from the Washington County, Arkansas, Sheriff’s Department, which referred the case to the Springdale Police Department, which produced the report we all now know so well. Both reports were taken in 2006, several years after the molestation occurred.

Speaking of the statute of limitations, remember how, if the kiddie porn cop Jim Bob Duggar originally took Josh to in 2003 had actually DONE SOMETHING about it, the statute of limitations could have been extended? Instead, according to the first police report, that cop gave Josh a “stern talking to,” and apparently went back to looking at kiddie porn. Of course, Officer Friendly has claimed, from kiddie porn jail, that Jim Bob Duggar is a big fat liar, and that he was only told of one case of molestation, which is why he decided to leave it as a family matter. Let the Duggars duggar it out amongst themselves, as they like to say in Northwest Arkansas.

Here are some more specifics from the new police report, about Josh Duggar’s molestation of a 5-year-old who was his sister, and how the fact that all these Duggar girls slept in the same bedroom made it real easy for him to travel from bed to bed, diddling:

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Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar will be interviewed by Megyn Kelly tonight on Fox News. Kelly has said that she really isn’t planning on lobbing any kind of hard-hitting journalism questions at the Duggars, but maybe with these new revelations, JUST MAYBE, she might find it in her heart to try to do her job. That is, unless Mike Huckabee has already written her interview questions out for her and she’s scared of getting of getting in trouble if she doesn’t follow the script.

[In Touch Weekly / police report via Fox News]

 

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  • Nounverb911

    Did Josh learn about “touching” while reading “In Touch Weekly”?

  • Beowoof14

    I am truly saddened by this missed opportunity.

  • Msgr_Moment

    These guys make the Cheneys seem like a downright wholesome American family. Fuck them.

    • whatwhomever

      Unlike the Cheneys, they haven’t killed anyone. That we know of.

    • guppy06

      I wouldn’t go that far. The Duggars haven’t shot anybody (yet).

  • exinkwretch

    Silly rabbit, prison isn’t for upstanding, God-fearing white folks with a bank balance. It’s reserved for the coloreds and po’ white trash.

  • Tom Ford

    In trying to tally up all of the incidents that young Duggar admitted to, I’m coming up with a total of 8 or 9 molestations. That’s a whole lot of ‘mistakes.’

    • Enfant Terrible

      “8 or 9 molestations”

      That we know of. In all probability there were many more. :-(

      • Tom Ford

        I fear you are correct. And I also fear this story has not hit bottom yet. I’m no expert, but I would not be surprised if young Duggar himself was molested, or witnessed such behavior by someone else in or near the family.

        • Lefty Frizzell

          Which is why someone who wields power in the family would not want him anywhere near a secular psychologist.

          • Villago Delenda Est

            DING DING DING DING DING

          • Blank Ron

            Or a cop who didn’t share those particular tastes.

  • Msgr_Moment

    The only one who can stop a bad guy older brother with a diddling finger is a younger sister with a pistol. Stand your mound!

    • richardgrabman

      You win the internet!

    • Blank Ron

      Ew. Golf clap, but ew.

  • Viva La Tabula Raza

    And TLC is still shilly-shallying about taking their show off the air permanently?

    • Zippy

      money changes everything

    • Tom Ford

      Hey, it’s basic cable. Shows with red-hot ratings don’t come along every day. Ya gotta weigh the good (ad revenue) with the bad (stars that enabled a molester to inflict minors with devastating psychological damage.) It’s a tough call.

    • Blank Ron

      A little retooling and it could work. We still follow the day-to-day of the odious Duggars, but now each female child will be accompanied 24/7 by an edgy cop in riot gear, carrying an AR-15 at port arms. Ratings gold!

  • marxalot

    I know that vomiting this often is bad for me, so I shouldn’t continue to follow this grisly fuckfest of a story, but it’s like the great Gonz once said: the temptation is to push it as far as it will go.

    • Whale Chowder

      Hey, it’s gross and terrible and comes at the expense of several children but at least it’s a diet plan.

      • AIO_7

        Yeah, a popcorn diet for me…

  • MsAnthropesMr

    There are few topics I can’t snark to. This is one of them, a truly, truly awful example of humanity. What I find even more offensive, is the “Christian” community defending these behaviors. When will these god botherers learn that gay people aren’t the enemy, that really, the perverse phone calls are coming from within the house?

    • r€nato

      projection is one of the most reliable predictors of human behavior.

      • Redgyal

        That’s why I like to assume that everyone is a crazy dachshund “pet parent” like I am.

        • sillyclucker

          Ha! In my case, you would be correct. And pretty sad to know that my dogs all live a much better life than the Duggar children will ever know.

    • If I wanted to spend my energy that way, I could get really pissed off at Ma and Pa Duggar and their lies about lgbt people and their families, when their own family was/is a cesspool. But I am a calm, meditative kind of person. Also, I may or may not be drunk.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        How many fingers am I holding up?

    • Zippy

      When will these god botherers learn…?

      the 12th of never?

      • Blank Ron

        I’m surprised that you could actually give a date.

  • Jus_Wonderin

    the statute of limitations fuck that.

  • mailman27

    All those little girls in one room– the Lord did indeed provide. *shudder*

    • guppy06
      • BackDoorMan

        … I’m wondering if this film is on the Duggar Family-approved list of wholesome entertainment? Considering the storyline… (which I always thought had pervy overtones)… it seems like it could be. Well, except for that whole “courtesan” thing…

    • richardgrabman

      What’s wrong with that? The Duggers are indeed a very weird family, but not everyone on this planet has the money (or space) to give every child a separate room. Plenty of us grew up sharing rooms (and even beds) with our siblings and sorry if we didn’t fit the standards of 21st century upper middle-class first world living conditions, but turned out relatively normal. At least not as child molesters.

  • JoeChristmas

    The most disturbing, disgusting thing about this story is In Touch Weekly being the investigating entity.

    • Nounverb911

      It’s busy with “Blatter Control”.

      • MsAnthropesMr

        And Granny Panties. Don’t forget granny panties.

    • nightmoth

      YES! This is being treated as celebrity gossip by the MSM when it could be used as an opportunity to educate “Christians” about Christian patriarchy, dominionists, quiverfull, and all the loony tunes who are hiding out like cockroaches under the big imitation christianist rug.

    • guppy06

      They’re holding back on publishing until after the next presidential election.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      NYT is busy sniffing Hillary’s panties.

    • MegPasadena

      Just like the Palin fake pregnancy, the MSM considered this kind of news too sordid for the polite society to talk about.

      • JoeChristmas

        Yes, exactly. See the DailyKos or the journolist e-mails. The Klondike Kunt gambled and won on that one. She is not Trig’s biologic — I’d bet anyone on that.

  • Randy Riddle

    I haven’t been this grossed out by a story since I heard about the Duggars _last_ week.

  • stankbait

    All the Bible Thumpers follow the same M O. Send your money to the Lord via my address!

    • Villago Delenda Est

      It’s what these vile people do.

  • darnyoudarnyoutoheck

    This brings up an other infuriating thing about the Duggars. The show sanitizes many realities about “quiverfull” families. Most live in overcrowded, insanitary housing, the Mom is not blooming with health, and it is a huge struggle to put enough food on the table. It is not unusual for Dad the patriarch and provider to crack under the pressure and abandon the family. Idyllic it ain’t

    • r€nato

      you mean God doesn’t provide? Shut the front door.

      • Blank Ron

        Must mess with their heads when they find out that ‘God provides’ is meant spiritually and doesn’t work at all in the Walmart checkout line.

        • BackDoorMan

          … you could always try using Matthew 6:28 on the cashier, but I think that only applies if you’re buying clothes. Or lilies. Something like that.

    • darnyoudarnyoutoheck

      It would probably be interesting (or distressing) to find out what the mother/infant morbidity and mortality rates were for these families.

    • andreamd

      on a budgeting site that I sometimes read, many of the women are “Christian” with large families(not Duggar sized). They homeschool and bake and sew, some farm- there is not usually any political msg. However, one commenter said she had 5 children and a 6th on the way and just couldn’t figure out how to stretch their money any further to feed the kids. I thought of writing ” go to the local heatlh clinic and get free condoms”

  • cousin itt

    At In Touch, we keep you in touch.

    • Msgr_Moment

      Sadly, there are no happy endings.

  • artem1s

    Megyn’s first question should be ‘so what kind of tips did you get from the pedophile cop on how not to get caught?’ and ‘what kind of pictures did you have to give him to sweep this whole mess under the rug?’

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      Her first and only question should be, “What the fuck is wrong with you people?”

      • Lefty Frizzell

        Haha – Lawrence O’Donnell did that with Wiener – it wasn’t a very informative interview but it was fucking entertaining.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        She can’t ask that question. It would offend the delicate fee-fees of the Jeebus-addled Faux Noise viewership.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    I’m not sure I understand the logic of having a statute of limitations for parental neglect/abuse type offenses that is less than the time it takes a child to grow up and escape the home. But, it’s Arkansas, Jake.

    • chicken thief

      Along the same lines, I am under the belief that the clock on the Statute, in some cases, starts when the victim became aware of the incident, not when the incident happened. So Josh may be in some legal trouble if the visiting girl was not previously aware that he copped a feel while she was sleeping.

      But I’m neither a lawyer not do I live in Arkansas.

  • memzilla

    With this making the 20th story about this shitstain slimeball, Our Wonkette has one-upped the Duggars.

    • Spurning Beer

      And counting….

    • chicken thief

      Not to be nitpicky, but Josh already one upped his sisters.

  • chicken thief

    What’s this about ‘hard hitting journalism questions’?

    ~ Chuck Todd

    • Zippy

      go back to sleep, Chuck. Your paycheck is safe

  • chicken thief

    Gives a whole new meaning to ‘joshing’ someone….

    • eggsacklywright

      In Ernest.

    • CTOH

      That’s a winner!

  • Zippy

    C’mon Fundie deleted commenters- keep defending this filth. Tell us all how it was a ‘mistake’ or how Josh was just ‘playing doctor’ over and over again with a sleeping five year old. Better yet, tell us how Josh is the real victim here and we’re the bad people for bringing it to the light of day.

    And when you’re done telling us all that- go fuck yourselves

    Signed, all of us heathen libtards who at least manage to understand that serial sexual abuse doesn’t become magically OK just because you wave around your official Jebus get-out-of-jail-free card

    • artem1s

      serial sexual abuse doesn’t stop just because you wave around your official Jeebus get-out-of-jail-free card, either. no way this has ended. see Sandusky, Jerry.

      • Zippy

        see AOT,K

    • 3FingerPete

      I believe the standard response is “LENA DUNHAM!!!!!”

      • Jinx!

      • MegPasadena

        Bingo. Kelly already used this defense, beside the Clinton one, on her personal blog.

    • You forgot it doesn’t count somehow because Lena Dunham did the exact same thing (except she didn’t and it probably was a case of two kids being gross and weird and she got a lot of flack from the social justice crowd for admitting to it too, but whatever!).

      • Thaumaturgist

        BTW. How old was Lena Dunham when she did it? If she did it? For how long a time did she do it? If she did it? What was the age difference?

        • It was a few incidents where she kissed her sister or masturbated while in the same bed (but wasn’t touching her), but the one that got the most flack was when she was seven, her sister was one, and Lena touched and looked into her sister’s vagina after their mother tried teaching her about female genitalia.

          I don’t like Lena Dunham as an artist, and she did herself no favors by describing herself as a “sexual predator” although I get what she was joking about. But if you look at quotes from actual experts on childhood development, and some did get interviewed when the story was at its height, it is the sort of gross stuff prepubescent kids do when they’re curious.

          But honestly even if you think it counts as abuse or you think it’s just kids being weird the point is moot since you just have to spend one microsecond on Google to find a leftist practically calling her a monster rapist.

    • frrolfe

      Zippy,

      If you really want to get annoyed, wander over to charismamag.com and read any of the many articles by Michael Brown on the Duggar boy’s mis-steps for which he has totally forgiven by Fundie Gawd.

      Why, oh why, have you hardened your sinners heart against Josh. Raymond Shaw Josh is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.

  • SadDemInTex

    “Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall” If the Duggar hubris which made them enter (and lead) the wingnut agenda had never occured they could have continued to rake in the money from TLC. America at large would have just either had the “vagina is not a clown car” group or the “old-fashioned values” group occasionally commenting on them. This would have never come out because no one would have cared enough to go digging. I wonder what they are praying about today?

    • Jus_Wonderin

      I doubt it is for forgiveness. More like “God, please let us have another show, please.”

  • Paul Dietzel

    Yeh, but, that there Po-lice report can’t be trusted ’cause it keeps mentioning “James” when er’body
    knows his name is “Jim-Bob”!

  • 3FingerPete

    Will Megyn be wearing the standard Fox cocktail dress during the interview or did Roger Ailes authorize a pant suit just this once?

    • Nounverb911

      He’s busy polishing her glass desk right now.

      • Tom Ford

        Polishing something, for sure.

        • Zippy

          I’d say Bishop, but wrong religion

          • FlownOver

            That, however, may be the all-time most ecumenical behavior.

      • chicken thief

        And has authorized Josh to help adjust her bra.

  • ManchuCandidate

    They keep duggaring a deeper hole.

  • Lizzietish81

    I’m sure they prayed with him and his victims.

  • jodyleek

    What do you wanna bet the Duggar’s are going to invoke the “god moves in mysterious ways” crapola, and “this tragedy has brought us closer to god” line of bullshit. Sure, god’s a pervert and an asshole, but super mysterious so let’s keep pretending he protects us because it’s easier than dealing in a reasonable way with our complicity in the rape of our daughters. Ugh.

    • Incoming Ham

      You left out “God only give us as much as we can handle.” If you are holy enough you don’t need to handle it at all.

      • chicken thief

        “Our family has suffered enough” and “we just want our lives back” also too.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          “we just want our lives back”

          Our lives of serial pedophilia and the degradation of girls because they’re girls, and raking in millions from a “reality” TV show that served only to distort reality.

          Sure.

          • FlownOver

            They oughta get their lives back with a heapin’ helpin’ of Varner Unit SuperMax hospitality.

          • Blank Ron

            We could tell ’em they’re there to minister to the fallen. For the next 20-to-life years.

          • Sheesko

            I heard an interview with Michelle Duggar on NPR a year or two ago. The host asked her if she was part of the Quiverfull Movement and she earnestly denied it. Weird.

      • jodyleek

        They don’t have to handle it and didn’t because Jeebus died for our sins and apparently provides nifty blinders and ear plugs. And they don’t have to make recompense because there is no commandment that says you are supposed to atone for your sins to the one who was sinned against. Which is handy.

        • Whale Chowder

          Blinders full of women.

      • SuspectedDemocrat

        God gave him sisters, and he handled them as much as he could get away with.

        • Incoming Ham

          You went there…

          • Blank Ron

            Somebody was going to.

          • Incoming Ham

            Yeah. I sort of opened the door on that one.

    • Tom Ford

      Why, it’s God that’s making my pants tight – how can that be wrong?

      • jodyleek

        Much worse. It’s the devil that made Joshie’s pants tight, so let’s all pray to the invisible sky zombie rather than getting him some actual mental health care. Because god will surely fix it. Pfft.

    • Blank Ron

      As I recall, both the Dugs and their supporters have already trotted that out. It’s pretty much the go-to ‘explanation’ for why they should get a free pass for violating religious commandments and/or secular laws.

  • There really is a vas deferens between the Duggar family and those families that truly represent healthy family values.

    • CTOH

      I see what you did there…

    • Mehmeisterjr

      That’s just a stereociliatype.

  • chicken thief

    I need some legal assistance from someone familiar with Arkansas criminal law, but I’m thinking that the Statute of Limitations starts running from the time that you knew of the event, not the date when the event occurred. So this new revelation about helping himself to first base with the visiting friend may be bad news for Josh if the girl was not aware of the assault previously.

    Is that belief true or am I just hoping it is?

  • eggsacklywright

    I guess the girls aren’t permitted to speak?

    • Nounverb911

      Does that include Megyn too, also?

    • CTOH

      And the two that are married, will their stupid husbands think that they DIDN’T marry virgins, because they enticed Josh? The whole thing is sick, Josh’s wife said she knew before she married him, did the husbands of the girls ALSO know? If not, how can they look at Josh and be OK with him? LET THE GIRLS SPEAK!!!

      • chicken thief

        SERIOUSLY?! Josh’s wife claims she knew?! Fuck me to tears. I got nothin now….

        • nightmoth

          I was arguing with some christianists over at another site about what Josh’s wife knew. He says he confessed to her “mistakes he made when he was a teenager” before they got married. The christianists say “no way did he tell her the mistakes were sister-molestation.” Nobody knows, until she speaks up, which ain’t gonna happen, but I believe he told her all. In their cult, sin is sin. There’s no such thing as mental illness, or psychological disturbance that warrants counseling. It’s all sin, and is to be dealt with by praying harder.

          • Villago Delenda Est

            It’s an endless cycle of misery and fuckup. They refuse to break out of it, too, although they can…but to do so, they have to give up their utterly fucked up religion.

          • Blank Ron

            Too bad for them (and anyone who has any contact with them) that they’d rather sacrifice their kids than give up their fabricated faith.

          • BackDoorMan

            … those kids have already been sacrificed on the Altar of Mammon. All that’s left is to keep passing the collection plate.

          • Biel_ze_Bubba

            What would they do without the devil to blame?

          • Rachel Book Harlot

            She actually did issue a statement in support of her husband: “I can imagine the shock many of you are going through reading this. I remember feeling that same shock. When my family and I first visited the Duggar home, Josh shared his past teenage mistakes. I was surprised at his openness and humility and at the same time didn’t know why he was sharing it. For Josh, he wanted not just me but my parents to know who he really was – even very difficult past mistakes.”

            Anna’s statement to People continued, as she said she saw how Josh “continued to do what he was taught,” and despite this recent information coming to light, she knows who her husband really is:

            “[Josh is] someone who had gone down a wrong path and had humbled himself before God and those whom he had offended. Someone who had received the help needed to change the direction of his life and do what is right.”

            http://hollywoodlife.com/2015/05/21/anna-duggar-statement-josh-duggar-molestation-scandal/

          • nightmoth

            It’s especially sad (and infuriating) that the little sisters didn’t receive any counseling. I know a few people in this sect, and one of them told me his Mom had been a psychiatric nurse “until she got saved” and quit her worldly job. I think they believe therapy leads people astray. But oddly enough, they all go to “body” doctors for everything, instead of just praying to be healed. Strange group. Very fearful. And I would say “Live and let live,” except they’re quite worldly when it comes to influencing laws and politics, and that affects me and my family.

          • Blank Ron

            Convenient for them, though. Therapy and counselling are time-consuming and require hard work on the part of the sufferer, to get the benefit of it. While praying is quick, easy, and apparently works first time, every time. And if you backslide, well, another prayer and poof, you’re well again!

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Females are to be seen, and not heard, in this vile barbaric patriarchal cult.

        • starfanglednut

          To be seen, sexually abused, and then not heard. Ftfy.

        • Thaumaturgist

          I agree that females are junior partners in this kind of religious environment. But Michelle is still an adult. She is every bit as guilty as Jim Bob. Or, for that matter, Josh.

    • BackDoorMan

      I think the girls are permitted to speak – as coached by Pa (and maybe Ma) Duggar – at least, two of the older ones will be appearing on Fox with Megyno as well…

      19 Kids and Counting stars Jill and Jessa Duggar, ages 24 and
      22, would have been 11 and 10 when their older brother Josh molested
      them in 2002. They confirmed they were among the victims when they
      joined their parents, Jim Bob and Michelle, Wednesday for an interview
      with Fox’s Megyn Kelly.

      As could be predicted, the one clip I’ve seen has them defending their brother, and whining about how “they can’t do this to us!” when putting the blame squarely on the “leaking” of the sordid details of their lives. Stockholm Syndrome – how does it work?

  • chascates

    The entire family should move to a monastery or at least stay out of the news. We need to be spending our time ridiculing the GOP presidential aspirants.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Mike/Jim Bob 2016

      • Blank Ron

        … Christ on a cracker, you don’t suppose that was the original plan before the excrement contacted the airflow augmentation device, do you?

    • starfanglednut

      Agreed.

  • SnarkOff

    I am not sticking up for any of these people. However, I can imagine a scenario in which a parent would be absolutely gobsmacked at the idea of his or her son doing this kind of thing, would have a hard time processing the information emotionally, and would struggle with how to get the son to stop without ruining his life, or the lives of their victimized daughters. There is a part of me that truly feels bad for everyone involved. Obviously Josh was in a lot of pain, and so were his parents. No parent has a game plan thought out ahead of time for a scenario in which one of their children is a sex offender.

    • CTOH

      ONCE, maybe. But over and over? NO!

      • SnarkOff

        Yes, absolutely. I agree.

    • Lizzietish81

      There was a good article about a young man who struggled with pedophilia (he has never acted on it) and now runs an anonymous support group. One of the things he talks about is having to tell his mom (this was required by the therapist he was seeing) and she handled it well. She didn’t deny that this was a real problem, she took it head on and has been supportive of him.

      I doubt I could find the original article (and I don’t want to look for it while at work) but Cracked did a related article.

      • Whollyholeyholy

        I believe I heard him interviewed on public radio. It was very sad.

      • Hardly Ideal

        I think I heard about it on This American Life. It really is kind of amazing that we don’t really deal with pedophilia beyond, “ew, that is BAD” and then harumphing.

    • freakishlystrong

      They knew about their son, did nothing, and continued to lecture the country about how gays make people incestuous pedophiles. Being a moral scold in a glass house is the worst kind of moral scold.

      • SnarkOff

        Yes, and I didn’t give them a pass on this, either. They are horrible. I agree.

    • SK

      Yeah, I can see how you have the utmost compassion for pedophilia-ignoring parents because they were too distraught at their own child being that molester.

      So distraught that one of them ran for political office denouncing incest as the most despicable crime punishable by death.

      So distraught that he and his ilk continue to blame homosexuals for child-molestation.

      Good thing you had a game plan when you wrote your most thoughtful defense of pedophilia-shielding parents. And it was ingenious to start off with I am not sticking up for any of these people

      • SnarkOff

        Oh, STFU. Seriously. I kept my comment very narrow and only expressed compassion for a parent having to come to terms with a horrible revelation about one of their children. I made it clear that I am not giving them a pass on any of this. And I clearly believe that the daughters are the real victims. Save your pissy moral outrage for Mick Huckabee.

        • Lizzietish81

          You also called them out by name about how they are in pain. I get what you’re trying to say but it’s not working out for you.

          • SnarkOff

            I’m not doing this again with you.

          • Lizzietish81

            Well then by all means, keep digging.

        • SK

          Good thing you have that compassion thing going for you. Bad thing it is reserved for pedophilia-ignoring parents.

          And I clearly believe that the daughters are the real victims.

          Obviously. It was clear when you instead blurted this:

          Obviously Josh was in a lot of pain, and so were his parents.

          Save your pissy moral outrage for Mike Huckabee.

          Oh, I am well-stocked, so I do not have to ration it.

        • starfanglednut

          Your problem was, despite in no way condoning their behavior, was that you tried to introduce any sort of nuance to the discussion.

          • SnarkOff

            I should’ve known better.

          • starfanglednut

            The issue is, understandably, extremely charged. And in this context, the idea that it is ok to have compassion for reprehensible people appears so similar to the religious right’s justifications for the Duggars’ behavior that it enrages people.

            If I have compassion (and I do–call me crazy) for someone who grew up in such an abusive or impoverished environment that he became a murderer, it doesn’t mean that I am pro-murder.

            I was sexually abused for many years, but have been fortunate enough to work with an amazing therapist for almost 14 years now, and I am happy, healthy and productive for the most part.

            Through this therapy, and through spending a lot of time with my mother (who allowed the abuse) as she lay dying in hospice, I have developed a hard-won and nuanced understanding of the kind of environments where this kind of thing occurs, and how the dysfunction passes down through generations.

            It is not simply child molester=evil person. It is far, far more complex than that. Josh is not an evil seed. He grew up in an environment that all but guaranteed he would exhibit the behavior he did.

            My expressions of this belief over the past few days have been met with extraordinary hostility. I think as time goes by, people will calm down a bit. It’s already happening on today’s thread.

            You take care.

          • SnarkOff

            This is such a kind and well-thought-out response. Thank you. I am lucky enough not to have ever been abused by anyone. I can’t begin to imagine the lifelong horror abuse victims suffer and am so glad you have been able to get help and to heal as much as you’re able to. XO

        • Thaumaturgist

          I understand wanting to protect your son.

          I do not understand deliberate indifference to the welfare of your daughters.

          Given these circumstances, I’ll go one step further with the parents. For,all practical purposes, they taught Josh it was no big deal. I continue to believe the parents are more to blame than the 14-year-old son.

      • Whollyholeyholy

        My observation of a friend’s personal experience is that it’s damn hard to call the police on even a more distant relative, realizing that it is going to destroy many relationships with people you have loved your whole life. Family bonds, especially parental ones, allow people to hope for the unlikeliest of miracle outcomes. I say this as a person generally skeptical of miracles. I’m sure if you are the sort of person who thinks prayer can fix it for you, it is extra hard to give up on one.

        Preemptively clarifying that I can both think the Duggars are the worst kinds of hypocrites I’ve ever seen (and I especially loathe that they went on television to shout their hypocrisy, also maximizing the platform for humiliating children they knew to be vulnerable), and feel some empathy for their pain. That’s their horrible failure, being unable to feel for those unlike themselves.

        • SK

          Turning in a close relative/friend can be difficult; this is not under contention. Seeking professional or even experienced help for one, not grooming that person to be a bigot, working harder to subsequently protect the victims or discouraging the offender? Not so difficult.

          Covering up for one to the extent of (repeatedly?) ignoring the plight of the victims subsequently? Criminal, and definitely not worthy of any benefit of doubt.

          • Whollyholeyholy

            No one is defending that.

          • Whollyholeyholy

            No one is defending that.

        • SK

          Turning in a close relative/friend can be difficult; this is not under contention. Seeking professional or even experienced help for one, not grooming that person to be a bigot, working harder to subsequently protect the victims or discouraging the offender? Not so difficult.

          Covering up for one to the extent of (repeatedly?) ignoring the plight of the victims subsequently? Criminal, and definitely not worthy of any benefit of doubt.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      The problem is that the actions taken by the parents, from the gitgo, indicates that your scenario doesn’t apply to the Duggars, whose first impulse was to start a campaign of what the Moonies call “divine deception”.

      I can only feel sympathy for the daughters, who have been brainwashed, and have been trained since they popped out of Ma to be submissive chattel. The only way to save them is to remove them from this vile cult.

      • SnarkOff

        Yes, their repeated pattern of ignoring their son’s problem and hoping it would go away is reprehensible. I condemn that.

      • Whollyholeyholy

        I feel horrible for these girls. I think a poor kid in west Baltimore may have more opportunity to get out of those circumstances. They may not have much opportunity in a poor neighborhood, but they at least have some shred of freedom.

  • fawkedifiknow

    These reports do just about absolutely nothing to refute the old shibboleths about Southern state customs and practices in the family sex business, and whether they do it different than the rest of the country and all.

  • freakishlystrong

    Nothing crystallizes the awfulness of U.S of America’s sorry state of today, than the fact that due to their political ideology, very nearly half the country has to actually defend these pathetic assholes.

    • Lizzietish81

      They don’t have to.

      And it seems that Huckabee is losing support even amongst his base for his support.

      • freakishlystrong

        They’ll come around. Look at that Desjarlis creep, caught on tape telling his MISTRESS to get an abortion. And his wife had two. And they still elected him.

        • glasspusher

          Note to self: don’t be this way with folks I support.

  • Zippy

    So because Jim Bob refused to finger his son, Josh got to continue fingering his sisters

    • Jus_Wonderin

      Eww?

      • Zippy

        quite

        • chicken thief

          I think we’re just about to the “cheese” part of the humor. And you never want to get to the cheese part.

          • Swampgas_Man

            As in “Cheeses KeeRIST where will it end?”

    • guppy06

      Abraham was willing to go all the way with his son!

      Just sayin’.

  • guppy06

    Remember the good ol’ days when we were just hating on Sorkin shows instead of “documentaries” like this?

  • Joshua Norton

    The new report claims Ma and Pa were just shrugging it off all those times Josh told them

    Without their TLC show, the Duggars would be just another set of inbred yokels using God’s special gift of food stamps and Medicaid to raise their litter of homeschooled child abuse victims.

    • Cranky Man

      Indeed, my immediate supervisor at home depot used medicaid for his children, 6 of them. 24 years old. Jehovah’s witnesses.

  • Ryan Denniston

    This story gets more disgusting with passing update. THANKS WONKETTE! (not)

  • anniegetyerfun

    Five years old.

    I am fucking done with the internet for the week, guys. See you in a few days.

    • YayConspiracy

      Don’t go annie! I’ll surely get worse!

  • Jay B.

    At this point, the only real surprise is that Dad didn’t join him. The fucking disgusting, degraded fucking Jesus fellating, misquoting, utterly ignorant hate pockets of patriarchy. I can’t hate these goobers and their fellow travelers more than I do. God obviously doesn’t exist, but the mischievous muse of Irony is harder to kill than a quiverfull of losers.

    • Randy Riddle

      Jay, go ahead – don’t hold back – tell us how you _really_ feel….

      • Jay B.

        Well, I toned it down a little.

    • Blank Ron

      I’m still of the opinion that Dad was likely doing exactly the same thing, because he could. Apple, tree, etc.

      • BackDoorMan

        Watching CNN do their journamalism all over the story (currently dissecting clips of the forthcoming Megyno Kelly “interview”) and watching Pa Duggar carry on in self-righteous indignation would certainly support that opinion. His excuses for Josh (“it wasn’t rape, it was just over the clothes except for the times when it was under, he was just a kid, we did our best but thought we might be failures as parents”), well… I got the distinct impression Big Daddy Jim Bob really doesn’t have a problem with what his First-Borned did. Not the first time… or the third… or the fifth (and counting).

  • Shalimar

    Why does the police report mention Jim Bob disciplining Josh after he molested the family friend but not after any of the incidents with his own sisters? Can they make it any more obvious that you can do whatever you want to girl children as long as no one outside the family finds out?

  • onedollarjuana

    IOKIYAR

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      R = repressed?

  • Michael Smith

    Its outrageous that they did nothing in the face of this information. Truly, it reveals their moral bankruptcy. They wanted to conceal the fact that, despite their sexually repressive philosophy – the one that was supposed to prevent sexual violence – a child they raised was sexually abusing his own sisters.

    Sexual assaults, they said, were the result of a morally lax, sexually deviant modern secularism. Christian sexual repression, they said, was the way to tame the kind of wild sexuality that leads to assault.

    But now we see – amid sexual repression, there is still sexual assault. Except the repressive authorities, whose entire legitimacy rests on the eradication of assault, cannot acknowledge the assault. They can’t help the victims. They can’t correct the perpetrator, even if the perpetrator is also a minor. They must simply deny it, or blame the victims to change the crime from assault to seduction.

    At least in a sexually open society, we make an effort to understand and deal with sexual assault as well we can. Namely, we understand that blaming victims is intellectually dishonest, not mention immoral. It’s a shame those girls were, and remain, under the hegemony of occultists. It’s a shame they have had little opportunity to know a world that would afford them much more respect.

    • MsAnthropesMr

      See, your problem here is that you started out with some facts, and used some logic to draw conclusions.

      • Michael Smith

        Ugh, yeah, sorry. I don’t know why I keep doing that.

        • smr06va

          You are possessed by Demons! Praise jeebus…………………

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Yes, very un-“Christian” of him.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Logic is only a theory.

    • Swampgas_Man

      “despite their sexually repressive philosophy”

      — Or BECAUSE of it?

      • Michael Smith

        That may very well be. With no positive outlet for sexuality, when everything is taboo, why would a kid think one kind of sexual contact is any worse than any other?

        • starfanglednut

          My understanding of sexual abuse is that it’s not about sex–it’s about power. I think the constant indoctrination that women are inferior beings and are supposed to be submissive toward men the more likely culprit. Though perhaps he was just a horny little fucker, I don’t know.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        I’d go with because.

      • Enfant Terrible

        I vote for because.

  • OzoneTom

    At least he wasn’t touching his little brothers!

    That we know of.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      I suspect that the conservatard reaction would be a mite different if that were the case.

      • Blank Ron

        If it had actually happened (and as I understand it there’s no reason why Josh wouldn’t have molested his brothers as well) they’d be covering it even harder, for just that reason.

  • VandeGraf

    Too bad about that statute of limitations thing, but can you imagine the Duggar’s umpteen kids going into protective services? All those poor unsuspecting foster families suddenly saddled with kids in full holier than thou mode, whining and crying! It might be seen as a public safety issue.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      They’d seem to be, I dunno … possessed, maybe?

    • nightmoth

      That’s funny! But I’d take ’em. I’m doing my darndest to free some neighborhood evangelical kids from their mind-prison right now.

    • Thaumaturgist

      1. There is not statue of limitations on children in need of protection. Arkansas could have taken the girls as long as Josh was In the house.

      2. When the statue of limitations turns on an act, application of the statue is simple. But the latest buzz is that Arkansas has a statue that imposes a duty on parents to act to report abuse

      • Sheesko

        Statute, not statue. Unless you were joking.

  • docterry6973

    Josh Duggar:sexual abuse :: George Zimmerman:Murder

    • Blank Ron

      Though he is far better in his field than Curious George is in his.

  • Kat Anyperson

    I’ve been saving this in case a report like this surfaced. :/

    I really… REALLY… hope children are removed from that home.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Unfortunately, it seems unlikely…the State of Arkansas is a nest of these foul god-bothered vermin, who have infiltrated the state to use the mechanisms of the law to protect the criminal Duggars, who apparently parent by child abuse as the primary means.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        Foul god-bothered vermin. I have to steal that.

      • Sheesko

        Yep. Justin Harris could actually get himself re-elected.

    • JoyP

      Thank you for this. It put me in a happier place, if only for a few seconds.

      • Enfant Terrible

        It’s nice to think that a little doggie like that would put Josh’s victims in a happy place, if only for a little while.

        • Blank Ron

          Unfortunately they believe in therapy Jeebus, not therapy pets.

          • BackDoorMan

            … I thought My Pet Jeebus was a thing.

  • VirginiaLady

    Did the non family member girl tell her parents? Were they in the same cult? Was that the girl Josh then had to marry? Enquiring minds, etc.

    • Thaumaturgist

      Really interesting question.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    “In Touch Weekly”
    Umm . . . do they specialize in reporting this stuff?

    • Steverino247

      Show me on the cable line up where…

  • JParkerSD46

    Game, set and match!!! It’s over and the winners of the “Horsecock Sandwich of All History”, beating out A. Hitler, J. Stalin, Caligula, Tomas de Torquemada, J. Mengele and the ever-evil O. B. Laden are Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar (roar of the crowd, raucous applause)!!! Well done Duggars. You have exceeded the highest possible levels of truly horribleness, ignorance and general lack of humanity. You are truly worthwhile recipients of this award. And as it’s always said, no one can ever take it away from you.

  • Politics_Nerd

    Schadenfreude ain’t just a river in Germany. Hopefully this keeps these freaks off tv for good.

  • Malmborg Implano

    THE AMAZING PERVS: Each week Bill Cosby, Josh Duggar, Dennis Hastert and Mary Kay Letourneau are released into a new neighborhood in a race to see which can be the first to reoffend.

  • Wow, this is the twentieth article on Wonkette about this. I guess with nineteen kids, there’s going to be a lot to write about…

    • viva_democracy

      Then add to that the fact that the entire Duggar circle of friends are all pedo’s themselves.

  • JohnR

    Maybe Megyn should have Josh on to share his heart and maybe he can fondle her on air though she is a little old for him.

  • MyLovelyNose

    Hm. I thought I read that Josh was caught by Jim Bob coming out of the girls’ room and only then confessed. I thought also that one of the girls saw him at it and that prompted his confession.

    • Silence Is Golden

      More than one instance. Makes you wonder where Jim Bob was heading…

  • Belasaurius

    Can we turn John Hinckley loose on these people

    • Goposaur

      My vote is for Pennywise.

    • Steverino247

      THAT would impress Jodie Foster!

  • Silence Is Golden

    I believe that he may have been molested. (Not an excuse )
    In my case my mother knew her husband was molesting at least 2 of us girls. Her response when I told a school counselor was to tell me that I was to never tell anyone what happened in our family. I caught hell for telling.
    I’m guessing that’s what happened in the Duggar family. It will all come out. At least one of those kids is going to break out, if they haven’t already.
    This is sick and those people need to be fully investigated. I don’t give a damn about statute of limitations. Those kids are in an untenable situation. To leave them with those parents is inexcusable!

    • Steverino247

      Sorry you went through that and I hope you got the help you needed. Amazing how some women let that happen and the excuses (which I’ll spare you) given for it.

      • Silence Is Golden

        It shouldn’t be scary to fall asleep in your own bed. I truly hope the Duggar parents see the awfulness of what happened to their daughters. The 2 people who should be protecting their children have horrendously failed those girls.
        It’s been said that this is often the behavior of someone acting out what’s happened to them. I fear for his own children.
        I’m also at a loss as to why this is not being investigated by child services. Statutes of limitations be damped.

        • Antoinette Herrera

          Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar have too much invested in their belief system, their worldview, and the cash cow of 19 Kids and Counting to do anything like actually spring for therapy sessions for the daughters that their firstborn assaulted. Forgiveness is mandatory, and if those daughters don’t keep sweet, then they’re off to hell. Besides, in the Quiverfull world, girls are guilty until proven innocent of “tempting” their assailants. The slut-shaming and victim blaming never end.

  • John

    Once again, ewwwwwwwwwwwwww!

  • Mehmeisterjr

    Megyn Kelly has three children. Just think about that.

    • Blank Ron

      That’s why Josh won’t be on the program.

  • Rachel Book Harlot

    I don’t understand how these people can live with themselves.

    • Steverino247

      Because they have to step over each other like they were extras in Soylent Green or because they’re awful people?

  • Steverino247

    Emergency placement facilities for these children, if removed from the home, would run about four grand a month each. It would be cheaper to post the National Guard outside their bedrooms in their own house.

  • Ergoetal

    “…will be interviewed by Megyn Kelly tonight…”

    How about a small sip of Tequila every time the word “god” is mentioned?
    I’ve got a few cases ready.

    • dshwa

      I have work in the morning, and calling in dead isn’t an option. Because that much tequila would kill me.

  • Gotta Love Them Thar Duggars!

    The “statute of limitations expiration rule” should not apply to Josh Duggar. Josh should have been in jail years ago (if not under it) and his parents (who knew what they were doing the whole time) should be in jail for harboring a known pedophile. Perhaps this glaring error will give the judicial system a reason to amend this as well as start to atone for this horrible injustice.

    • Magginkat

      Aren’t there laws that say the statute of limitations starts from the date of discovery (the date when police were told about this and not the pedophile cop)? It would seem that at the very least the parents could be prosecuted for covering up these crimes. Now tell me just who believes that this molestation just stopped at age 17? If I were his wife I would pack up those kids and get them as far away from him as possible.

      • andreamd

        nope, his wife is another member of that cult. Do we think he really told her and her parents what he did before they were married? But I guess Jesus forgave him and told her to marry the pervert.

  • Poly_Ester

    Heaven, we have a problem. Do you copy? Over

  • Me not sure

    There should be a thorough investigation of this right away. There may be incidents of these types of behaviors, as yet unreported, that the statute of limitations has not yet run out on. Give these matters to a grand jury and have every one of these people testify under oath. At the very least put the minor children under protection until all issues involving molestation and child endangerment are properly resolved.

    • Blank Ron

      And I should have a freezer full of self-renewing pizza, but that ain’t gonna happen either. *sighs*

      • Me not sure

        OOOOh, magic pizza! Me some pleeze!

  • BRONY KILLER ALL DAY EVERY DAY

    THEY MUST BE BRONIES. IT IS TIME TO SEND THEM TO THE FEMA CAMPS FOR CORRECTION

    https://youtu.be/L5nCPUjZIpA

  • beatbort

    Howard Kurtz will be very angry if Megyn Kelly does her jobs and asks a follow up question or two or three or four.

  • Rachel Book Harlot

    Apparently, Jessa Duggar, Josh’s sister, has come forward in defense of her brother: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c86c3d28bb8446f29bf0e46ef713d169/sister-reality-star-josh-duggar-says-she-was-victim

    • Celtic_Gnome

      What? Jessa wasn’t good enough for him?

    • Blank Ron

      Well, she’s gonna make some fundie Quiverfull ‘man’ a good, pliable wife. They need to sell her off quick while the brainwashing holds.

  • Celtic_Gnome

    So, they finally achieved the impossible. Jim-Bob and Michelle now come off worse than Josh in this whole sordid mess. Bravo, sir and madame, bravo.

  • Kat Anyperson

    Several news outlets reporting official incidents of molestation count up to 7. This kid is a serial pedo.

  • lizzie

    Will they say the five year old ‘made a bad choice’?

    I’m really trying to not hate humanity. I’m trying so hard.

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