But he said he's sorry!

So a short while back that feels like a million years ago now, we quite presciently told you Josh Duggar proves “reality shows are bad, the Duggars are the worst, bigots are terrible, and don’t homeschool your kids.” And that was before we knew garbage person Josh Duggar used to touch his sisters in their bathing suit areas; we just thought he was your standard issue dumb homeschooled bigot, gay-bashing on behalf of the hate group Family Research Council — not an actual criminal who did the kind of things we are pretty sure Jesus would not approve of.

We were so innocent then, in April, but now we know all this disgusting stuff about disgusting Josh Duggar and his disgusting Duggar family, and their disgusting homeschool lesson plans about how you should resist your slutty sisters’ tempting vaginas, not because that makes you a sick child molester, but because of how you should save your sacred sperm for putting inside of your wife to make an army of dumb bigoted maybe even molesty babies, like the Bible says. Yeah. BRB, rolling our eyes.

Anyway, here is some more gross for you:

“Abuse” is the new “racism.” As soon as you’re accused of it, you’re considered guilty. Just what would you like the Duggars to have done? Turn all their kids over to a godless psychologist? Maybe one supplied by the local public school system where “abuse” is so unheard of? Should they have skinned Josh alive, rolled him in salt and hung him on a meathook?

That charming defense of Josh Duggar and his scumbag parents comes from Quiverfull Homeschooling Hero Rick Boyer, who wrote The Book on how to have have 10,000 kids and counting, for The Lord, and is a big fan of keeping them at home, so they don’t get education cooties and learn real stuff. Apparently, Boyer did not hear that, according to his best friend Jim Bob Duggar, who loves Boyer’s book very much — what a nice incestuous-but-not-in-a-criminal-way relationship they have — why yes, Josh should have been skinned alive because that’s what you do to rapists and incesters. At least, that’s what Jim Bob Duggar believed when he was running (unsuccessfully) to be the next Republican senator from the WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? state of Arkansas.

Boyer, like presidential contender (LOL) and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (see above re WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?), thinks Josh has already suffered enough, from molesting his sisters, so we need to stop talking about that now, because Josh has forgiven himself, and his parents have forgiven themselves, and it’s all good now, SHUT UP:

The guy sinned, repented, changed, and lived an exemplary life for TWELVE YEARS before a tabloid spent thousands of dollars sending a team to Arkansas to go door to door trying to dig up dirt on this exemplary family. How much would it cost them to find dirt on YOU? Would they have to dig that hard? Do you hear Josh’s sisters railing against him? Not, it’s not the victims howling for scalps, it’s pagans and gullible Christians, eagerly grabbing the bait and shooting their own wounded. Ok, go ahead and follow the crowd. I am taking a stand here and now, and you may quote me anywhere you care to. The Duggars are an exemplary family and I wish I were half the man that Jim Bob Duggar is. I hope I have made myself clear. Let the chips fall where God guides them.

We’d hate to casually toss around unfounded accusations of abuse against anyone who wishes he were just like the guy who covered up his son’s molestation of his daughters — and god forbid we sound like some hysterical liberals who unfairly cry “ABUSE!” when someone admits to, you know, abuse — but wow, this Boyer fella really has us scratching our heads. Not only is he real mad at everyone for persecuting the Duggars, but he thinks Bill Gothard, the guy who developed the How To Not Rape Your Sisters lesson plan, and was accused of doing some maybe criminal sex stuff himself, is also innocent and should be left alone, and he heartily endorses Gothard’s homeschooling curriculum too.

All these Duggar defenders sure do seem nice, don’t they? Keeping their kids home, away from dirty sinful schools, so they can teach them not to do sex or even think about sex — but hey, if they happen to sex any kids, well, that’s their own business, and don’t you dare call it abuse.

Ugh, sooo gross. And that just goes to prove how smart we are, because we went to real schools and learned actual stuff, for knowing that you shouldn’t homeschool your kids for many reasons, but now also too including that they might end up like these sick bastards who think it’s NO BIG DEAL TO MOLEST YOUR SISTERS. And now we’re going to go back to rolling our eyes. Forever.

[Homeschoolers Anonymous via RightWingWatch]

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  • Skwerl King

    “I were half the man that Jim Bob Duggar is.”
    -So Josh, you want to be 1/20th of a man? I’d say Jesus has granted you that wish.

  • We’d hate to casually toss around unfounded accusations of abuse against anyone who wishes he were just like the guy who covered up his son’s molestation of his daughters…

    Was Rick Boyer involved in some way with the mysterious and troubling disappearance of Josh Duggar’s fifteen-year-old sister, Jade Helm?

    • weejee

      Boyer’s simply standing Pedo Bear’s ground for him.

  • SuspectedDemocrat

    “Should they have skinned Josh alive, rolled him in salt and hung him on a meathook?”

    Wait, wait. Let’s hear him out…

    • Welcome to the family, Jerky Duggar!

    • OneYieldRegular

      Sounds like somebody’s been staying up late too many night watching Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the Christ” over and over.

      • Angry_Cop

        Game of Thrones, morelike.

        • zerosumgame0005

          more my taste, lots of boobies and butts!

    • Nounverb911

      Isn’t that how they make Prosciutto?

      • The-Timbuktutu

        I love you. . .

    • beatbort

      Yes, to all three questions!

  • BoatOfVelociraptors

    Who keeps paying these people? I was homeschooled, and then released to the religous charter school. Fortunately, it became too expensive for my parents and I turned out ok. ish.

  • Ricky Gay

    I can hear the thunderous eye rolling from here!

    • Nounverb911

      Is that Jeebus getting ready to wash away Texas?

      • kindness

        Can he squeeze Arkansas into that too?

  • Nounverb911

    Sarah Palin must be on cloud nine! Finally a family worse than hers.

    • Blank Ron

      As far as we know, anyway.

  • Toomush_Infer

    Hunker down bunker down….

    • Nounverb911

      It was very sad when Edith Bunker died.

      • SuspectedDemocrat

        Imagine my surprise when I learned “All in the Family” was not a homeschool sex-ed textbook!

  • OneYieldRegular

    “The guy sinned, repented, changed, and lived an exemplary life for TWELVE YEARS”…of getting paid to condemn innocent people whose perfectly healthy sex lives didn’t square with his own myopic, bigoted, hypocritical notions.

    • MrBlobfish

      How do I know he lived an exemplary life for TWELVE YEARS? Just by saying so isn’t good enough from this crowd.

      • HogeyeGrex

        “The guy sinned, repented, changed, and lived an exemplary life hasn’t gotten caught again for TWELVE YEARS”

        fixed that for him.

        • andreamd

          I worry about his kids, the neighbors’ kids, any kid he has ever been near.

  • whatwhomever

    It’s quite a feat the people defending Josh Duggar have accomplished. They’ve managed to look worse than a child molester.

    • beatbort

      He could run for the U.S. Senate now, and follow the successful script of that woman in Delaware: “Hi, I am Josh Duggar, and I am not a child molester.”

    • Vecciojohn

      People who should know better and cover it up are worse. (Looking at you, Bernard Law, hiding out in the Vatican.)

  • “The Duggars are an exemplary family and I wish I were half the man that Jim Bob Duggar is.”

    Ok Rick. Shall we call you Jim or Bob?

    • beatbort

      Exactly my thought: Which half? Top or bottom?

  • mrFawkes

    Are our skullduggarded fuckheads learning?

    • Nounverb911

      Yes, don’t get caught.

      • Blank Ron

        They’ll keep getting caught. They’re at that level of arrogance where they think their own awesomeness protects them. Sadly for them, the world don’t work that way.

  • tihond

    To mis-quote John Lennon, “A home-schooling hero ain’t something to be.”

  • one_who_wanders

    The eye-rolling that this family has caused is approaching near Palin-like levels. Those muscles are getting muscle-bound.

  • CalvinianChoice

    “…spent thousands of dollars sending a team to Arkansas to go door to door trying to dig up dirt on this exemplary family.”

    He’s talking about Ken Starr going after Bill and Hillary Clinton, right?
    No, I guess not.

    • Thaumaturgist

      He said “thousands and thousands,” not ” millions and millions.”

  • Relativicus

    It would not cost anyone even hundreds of dollars to dig up dirt on this sinner’s sinning ass, but all the gold in Solomon’s mines could be spent and you still wouldn’t find that I’ve molested fucking children, you sick fuck.

    • kindness

      Checking one’s browser history is usually all it takes. How may people actually go to Private Browse mode before internetsexcapades?

  • Left Coast Tom

    So when we get sick of Hastert posts we’re going to get the Duggars, and when we get sick of the Duggars it’s back to Hastert?

    • Nounverb911

      How about something funny about Texas for a change of pace…

      • Or some good recipes for the weekend? And some kitten pictures.

        • Nounverb911

          Or some kitten recipes.


            How a bout a recipe for creamed chipped zygote on toast?

        • borninatrailer

          I saw some recipe for crab rangoon dip and wonton chips. I’m making that for myself and Mrs.Trailer as consolation.

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      And nary a pony in sight.

    • Blueb4sunrise

      AZ. has a chance to break the cycle before the day is over.

  • WagMoreBarkLess

    It’s such a shame that the only alternative the Duggars had to hiding his incestuous abuse for a decade and allowing him to keep on abusing his sisters was skinning him alive, salting his body, and hanging him on a meathook.

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      I know, right. Apparently, therapy was just *too* radical.

      • kindness

        The Therapist might have been a sinner and they had to protect their precious spawn.

        • Blank Ron

          And by ‘sinner’ you mean ‘not a member of OUR church,’ right?

        • dshwa

          The first thing a therapist is going to do with an abuse victim is tell them it’s not their fault and try to rebuild their self esteem. Both of those are incompatible with the Duggar’s view of women as temptresses who have no role in society other than babby making machines.

  • FauxAntocles

    Boyer is found to be a child molester in 3, 2, …

  • Lefty Frizzell

    Look, Barry, it’s not like I’m being impatient or anything, but it’s been a few years and where are those FEMA camps? We really, really need them.

  • beatbort

    “Just what would you like the Duggars to have done?”
    Ask a simple question, get a simple answer: Report Josh Duggar’s crimes to the proper authorities. End of story.

    • Get the molested girls to a safe environment and get them the held they need. Get the sick 14-year-old the help he needs. End of story.

  • SuspectedDemocrat

    This guy is saying you wouldn’t have to dig very hard to find child molestation in his family either, so don’t judge!

    • HogeyeGrex

      Not very hard at all, from the sound of it.

  • Tallmutha

    I don’t wanna read about creepy child-abusing sex-obsessed Christians any more. Can’t they make a reality TV show about one of the families in that nice Satanic Temple?

    • beatbort

      They’ve got a new show about the Manson Family, so that’s a start in the right direction.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      They tried to do one about Muslim-Americans with lives no different from their middle-class Christian neighbors, but it got screamed off the TV by the wingnuts as propaganda.

  • Thaumaturgist

    Talk about shooting your own wounded, TLC reportedly wants to keep “the franchise” alive by making a reality show out of the two older, and now married Duggar daughters, who, victims or not, are part of the same toxic mess that spawned Josh.

  • Joshua Norton

    And now we’re going to go back to rolling our eyes. Forever.

    I’ve gotten really good at eye rolling lately. Now I can actually see the inside of the top of my head.

  • Leema Raven

    Translation: Hello internet, please castigate me, please.

    One would think, by now, these ppl would learn to just keep their trap shut. One would think, anyway.

    • Skwerl King

      Naw. Can’t do that, they just need to dig that hole deeper. Ol’ Huckabee didn’t need to comment, but he did and now he won’t even make it through Ioway.

    • RevZafod

      You spelled castrate wrong.

  • Joshua Norton

    real mad at everyone for persecuting the Duggars

    And it looks something like this….

    • Blank Ron

      Needz moar excrement.

  • Poly_Ester

    When Denny Hastert tells me to leave Josh alone I will but not before!

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      Those two should go bowling together.

      • riledupone

        Or they could wrestle.

  • Mahousu

    “Homeschoolers Anonymous” – that’s like Alcoholics Anonymous, right? Except they seem to be having trouble with that first step, admitting they have a problem.

    • MilesI

      HA are the good (liberal, gaytheist) guys!

  • Angry_Cop

    “Should they have skinned Josh alive, rolled him in salt and hung him on a meathook?”

    I’m not normally for that sort of thing, but I understand if you feel you must live according to the principles of your sick religion.

  • Metadude

    Well Duggar me!

  • zerosumgame0005

    hum, personally it would not be hard to dig up dirt on me, but the thing is I am not on fucking TV preaching about how wunnerfullofit I am.


      I share my dirt freely. I’m kind of proud of it…

      • zerosumgame0005

        I am a bit happy I can still generate some dirt at my age :P

  • Spotts1701

    I’m no saint, and I don’t pretend to be, but at 14 I knew it was wrong to do that to someone without their consent, and certainly not while they are asleep, and definitely not someone who was my kin.
    So yeah, I gleefully will cast stones as much as I want to. Because unlike your house, pal, mine ain’t made of glass.

    • borninatrailer

      Last week I really did not think people would literally have to engage in discussion about whether 14 year olds should know better than to finger their 5 year old sisters or can that be chalked up to youthful hijinks?

      Did not see that coming.

    • Lascauxcaveman

      My one experience with this sort of business happened when I was 8, when my best neighborhood pal from 2nd grade beckoned me over to his mom’s car, where he and his next door neighbor (also 8) were literally kissing his little sister’s bare ass. Even at that age I was pretty skeeved out about the whole thing; although she seemed to think it was pretty hilarious.


    “Let the chips fall where God guides them.” Oh, he of such little faith. That’s what’s happening right now

    • HogeyeGrex

      “It’s only God’s will if it conforms to my desires.”

  • D_C_Wilson

    Just what would you like the Duggars to have done? Turn all their kids over to a godless psychologist?

    Yes. That would have done more than just sending Josh to work construction for a few months.

    Do you hear Josh’s sisters railing against him?

    Given that they’re not allowed to speak out without Jim Bob’s approval, no. But I do see the pain behind those vacant, dead eyes they have.

    I have no doubt this goober thinks the Duggars acted appropriately. After all, they did everything they could to protect their standing in the quiverfull freak community and made sure Josh still had a bright future ahead spreading hate. And isn’t that the most important thing to be concerned about?

  • Angry_Cop

    “The guy sinned, repented, changed, and lived an exemplary life for TWELVE YEARS before a tabloid spent thousands of dollars sending a team to Arkansas to go door to door trying to dig up dirt on this exemplary family. How much would it cost them to find dirt on YOU? ”

    Nothing, I’m pretty open about my sins, and I have sinned a lot. Enjoyed the hell out of it too. However, I might add that said vast compendium of outlandish and offensive behavior has never included FUCKING MY SISTER or any other family member, or pet, for that matter. Neither has this mountain of substance “abuse” and sexual bacchanalia I’ve indulged my entire life in ever included partner abuse or the killing of any animals, especially not the murder of poor little abandoned doggies just looking for a nice person to be nice to them, LIKE SOME PEOPLE I COULD MENTION.

    • JohnR

      “a tabloid spent thousands” yes and let me guess about the feeding frenzy of tens of millions spent investigating the last two Democratic Presidents from BJs to Birth Certificates. Where is the outrage Rick Boyer?

      • Angry_Cop

        $100 million dollars for the Starr report alone. But it’s the Republicans who care about government spending. What a fucking crock.

      • mailman27

        I got Rick Boyer’s outrage right here.

  • Kat Anyperson

    “Just what would you like the Duggars to have done? ”

    Perhaps follow the letter of law that Jim Bob voted for as a member of the Arkansas legislature? He knew very well what his legal obligation was at the time his son came to him. He personally voted for funding for survivors abuse networks. He did not care what the law was when it came to his own children.

    “Family values” doesn’t mean “only MY family”.

    • Blank Ron

      Other people have families too?
      – JimBob

  • JohnR

    I just HEAVed, Rick Boyer butt sex scandal in 5 4 3 2…

  • weejee

    OT: LA Times says Hastert’s payoff was to cover sexual abuse of a male. The LA Times missed including this picture of Denny Hastert from back in his school teacher days. Must credit Wonket, too, also.

    • HogeyeGrex

      Favorite comment over there:

      I think the “Hastert Rule” just got a new meaning.

      • Me not sure

        “Measure twice, cut once?”

  • calliecallie

    “Not, it’s not the victims howling for scalps, it’s pagans and gullible Christians, eagerly grabbing the bait and shooting their own wounded.”
    Talk about your mixed metaphors. Clearly not the worst thing that this guy said, but if you’ve got to be a scumbag, at least try to be a coherent scumbag.

    • mailman27

      I know, I was trying to count them up until my head exploded like a sinking rat on a rising tide that lifts all boats by their bootstraps.

  • whitroth

    About the Duggars… I have just one thing to say, or rather quote: “I love my cigar, too, but sometimes I take it out.” – G. Marx

    mark, firm Marxist-Lennonist (Groucho & John)

  • JoeChristmas

    Josh Duggar — Homeschooler Hero

    • ManchuCandidate

      And be a home school hero, got malice in his eyes
      He’s a home school hero
      He took a sister, home school hero, malice in his eyes
      Home School hero, he’ll be fondling tonight

    • JohnR

      Homeschooler Zero

    • Rick Hill

      “Daddy, can I touch my sisters like Josh did as long as I ask Jeebus forgiveness afterwards?”
      “What a silly question. Of course you can.”

  • Enfant Terrible

    Michelle’s in the bedroom,
    Pursuing her salvation,
    Jim Bob’s at the church today,
    Working his vocation,
    Josh molested all his family,
    Josh molested all his friends,
    It fucked up their relationships,
    And nothing works again.

    (Sung to “Found A Job” by David Byrne, obvs)

  • Tansy Geek

    Initial response: I would have let Josh’s sisters hit him in the crotch with a 2×2 then I would have taken him to see the most godless psych professional I could find. Then more 2×2 to the crotch. This is excepting the obvious provision of sex education, etc.

  • cousin itt

    Predators of a feather molest together.

  • ManchuCandidate

    “Let he is without fondling a relative cast the first stone!”

  • shut*up

    You do know that there are liberal, some VERY liberal, families that homeschool their children. Religious zealots do not hold a monopoly on homeschooling.

    Otherwise, I totally agree.

    • Angry_Cop

      Oddly enough, the kids of those families end up with exactly the same social and educational problems that conservatively/religiously homeschooled kids do.

      Isn’t that odd? Almost like it’s good for kids to be around their peers, instead of their parents.

      • Dee Andee

        It depends. If they are exposed to people of all ages, they have a less ageist view of the world, too. But most homeschooled kids are isolated, admittedly.

    • Kat Anyperson

      I have met quite a few well adjusted adults who were home schooled by liberal parents who properly socialized them through extracurriculars like orchestra and scouts.

      Edit- I should note, each of the parents were either trained Montessori educators or parents who adhered to the method.

    • Dee Andee

      Thank you. So far I’ve not responded to the homeschool remarks, but I did in fact homeschool my son from grades 1-3. Why? Because he could not read. And instead of finding out why he could not read (dyslexia, durh) the rural teacher called him ‘stupid’ in front of the whole class, then made him stay after school and inside during all recesses to do extra work. He didn’t tell me. He was ashamed. But when it got to the point where he wasn’t sleeping because he was dreading school so much, it finally came out. Did that teacher ever talk to ME? Oh hell no.

      So I pulled him. We followed all the rules for it. And every day, I read aloud to him. He followed the words. He loved it, loved having a say in the way lessons went, when he wanted to learn about, etc.

      In fourth grade, we had moved to a larger town where he could get the extra help he needed with reading, so back to school he went. I’ve never regretted homeschooling him those three years. It taught him that no one should have to endure something that is intolerable, just because it’s ‘what people do.’

      But then again, there are truly shitty reasons to homeschool. Religion being one of them.

      • Toomush_Infer

        Good on ya…

      • shut*up

        I just dislike generalizations. Not all homeschoolers are god fearing freaks. I know several very liberal families who homeschool, and their kids are amazing.

        • andreamd

          we have some really smart and interested families who come to the museum who are homeschooling. They have a lot of access to information/collections -first hand/ hands on. I have never asked why they are homeschooling but as we are a science museum- it is not to stop the teaching of evolution and other evil scientific theories.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        The Fundies and Dominionists have a knack for ruining it for everyone. The phrase “family values” used to refer teaching kids basic manners and respect for others. The phrase is now so degraded that I’m expecting a con when a company says it supports family values. EDIT: And I’m always right. It is a con.

        Likewise, I thought of home schooling as something you did if your child couldn’t attend public school or was a Mozart-level genius. Thanks to the Duggars and their ilk, it automatically makes people think of children caged in a family pedophile cult.

        I guess it makes sense that people who think that God loves fracking would piss in the ground water.

      • jw

        What an awful teacher. That a teacher would call a student, and a first grader at that, stupid is unconscionable. Please tell me that you went to the principal and she was stopped from doing that to other children.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Avoiding evolution and gay cooties tends to top the list.

      • sillyclucker

        Now that’s what I call an intelligent reason to homeschool. Well done and I hope your son appreciates how fortunate he is.

    • SK

      Um, there is a difference between homeschooling and Christian homeschooling.

      I have seen some kids that were homeschooled who were far brighter than their out of home schooled counterparts. None that were Christian homeschooled.

      • shut*up

        Exactly my point.

      • jw

        Agreed. Christian homeschooling can be scary – like the folks in Texas who had like 7 kids they were homeschooling. They only taught them music because they wouldn’t need to know how to read or write or do math when they were raptured. How will those poor kids ever be able to function in society at all?

        • Suse

          Only music? Why, so they know how to play a harp when they get to heaven?

          • jw

            Yeah, not sure why music but maybe they thought they needed to teach them SOMETHING.

        • Blank Ron

          Functioning in ‘society’ isn’t something they think important. Or necessary.

          • jw

            So are they never going to, say, drive a car? Even if they were going to do it unlicensed, they wouldn’t be able to read road signs. Or instructions on medication. Or anything. Not be able to add or subtract – are they EVER going to buy groceries? I mean, even if you don’t want to be in mainstream society, you still live on this planet.

          • Blank Ron

            Ah, but TurboJesus is gonna take them up to White People’s Heaven any day now, so they won’t live on this planet for long.
            The dawning look of panic on their faces when it keeps not happening, leaving them unprepared for even the most marginal sort of life, must be something to see.

  • JohnR

    These kids have been abused since infancy, re: “Blanket Training” Blanket training is the Pearls’ first step to molding obedient children: starting in infancy, parents put their baby on a blanket and flick them with a flexible ruler or other instrument if the baby tries to roll or crawl off. Eventually, the baby is “trained” to ignore his or her natural curiosity and stay on the blanket, because he or she is scared. Yes a godless psychologist please. The shit people do in the name of god.

    • HogeyeGrex

      That’s fucked up. Beating your children before they can crawl. Nice.

      Ah, “Family Values.”

    • VirginiaLady

      Who came up with that? Oh that’s gross and horrid.

    • dimplasm

      It’s also against Arkansas law to use corporal punishment on babies.

      • TruthNotReligion

        . . . but what if JESUS — in that vision you “just” had — tells you it’s OK ?

        THEN … it’s OK, right ?

    • Lefty Frizzell

      That’s just sick man. What kind of person would do that to their own baby? What kind of world do we live in that that is tolerated? Fuck, now I’m in tears…

    • Sheepshagger

      For people who have a horde of babies they sure don’t like babies much.

      • Blank Ron

        Gawd wants them to have as many children as possible. He didn’t say anything about liking them.

    • Virginia Dreaming

      I bet the Duggar girls wish Ma and Pa did a better job of training Josh to ignore his natural curiosity.

      • riledupone

        And stay on his own blanket.

  • VandeGraf

    To say that Josh has lived an exemplary life after his dalliance with his whore sisters is not borne out by the evidence. What can be said is that those times during Josh Duggar’s life that have been painstakingly documented have tended to indicate that his behavior has been free of molestation. However, there are vast periods of time when there is little documentation and given the inclination of molesters to eschew the mechanisms of documentation, particularly during times when they are actively engaged in molestation activities, it cannot be said unequivocally that Josh Duggar has been leading an exemplary life, but merely that some documented instances of what can be interpreted as exemplary behavior exist. To assert otherwise is to indulge in “science” of the sort recently alluded to by Rick Santorum. This, we know, is to make deductions based on insufficient sample size.

  • Treg Brown

    Except it’s not just a “sin”.
    It’s a fucking crime.

  • Pongo

    Why do so many fundies have so much difficulty distinguishing ‘sin’ from ‘crime?’

    • JohnR

      They have that jesus umbrella thing. If a dogless Commie like me does smokes weed off with his head, if Josh rapes his sisters it’s a church/spiritual matter, and the victims fault.

  • marxalot

    When someone commits a crime, their personal assurance that the voices in their head forgive them is irrelevant. They must also face the external mechanisms of justice.

    • Me not sure

      … and then a prison beat down.

      • marxalot

        That’s one of the mechanisms, yes.

    • Blank Ron

      This time the external mechanisms of justice seem to be mostly at work aiding and abetting.

  • MrBlobfish

    Accused?!? He freakin’ admitted it, dumbass.

    • Dee Andee

      And this is not the first time they’ve substituted that argument. Maybe they think that because the record was destroyed, they can now whitewash it over until it goes bye-bye. Good luck with that, losers.

      • Blank Ron

        The memory hole doesn’t work if you’re NOT the only one with a copy of that piece of paper.

  • Antimassacree

    Of course the Duggars are “an exemplary family”, it’s just that they are a bad exemplary ( or a good exemplary of how creepy religious freak ideologues can be).

  • Razor’s Edge

    “Kid diddler”?

    Isn’t that just referred to as duggaring now?

    • Walter Wellstone

      I hereby declare that “to duggar” is now a verb that describes the act of diddling a child. I ask the wonketariat to assume this most sacred duty to spread the word and make “duggaring” known throughout the land as the preferred vocable to describe this most gross and disgusting of crimes.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        Dan Savage is handling that end of it.

  • Ergoetal

    “Do you hear Josh’s sisters railing against him?…”

    No. But I’m guessing that’s not allowed.

    • Spotts1701

      If they speak out, they will be thrown out of the tribe. Like what happens routinely in Colorado City, Arizona or Hilldale, Utah.

  • Walter Wellstone

    The Christianistas are pathetic. They attack and harass those of us who don’t buy their bullshit and when shit hits the fan and exposes them for what they really are they claim to be victims of persecution. How rich. I have no patience and zero tolerance for these motherfuckers. I cannot stand them, I want them all to go away and form their own country somewhere outside North America; I don’t care where they go and, no, I won’t give them the South. We fought a brutal war for that land and it is they who need to get the fuck out.

  • Silence Is Golden

    Somebody better go make sure that guys kids are ok. It seems these people think nothing is wrong with molesting little kids if you confess your sins to God and attack the gays, liberals, atheists and lapsed Christians (you know, the ones who DO think it’s wrong).

  • dimplasm

    “Should they have skinned Josh alive, rolled him in salt and hung him on a meathook?’

    Okay. Sounds good to me. Or even better, Mom and Pop and their ass-covering church should have done this to each other.

    • Dee Andee

      That dude reads the Bible enough to know some really good ways to punish someone, doesn’t he? Um-hmm.

      • dimplasm

        No kidding. Nasty old bastard.

    • Zippy

      I’m good with any of that. Beats the hell out of sweeping it under the rug like those assholes tried to do.

  • Zippy

    How much would it take to dig up the dirt on me?

    All the moneez in the world, you shit stain. Because unlike your little choir boy Josh, I never fucking molested anyone.

  • RecreationalPilot


    Homeschooling: When parents don’t want children who are smarter than they are!


    • Tony Alexander


    • Querolous

      So true.

      • SuspectedDemocrat

        Now that makes perfect sense for three reasons…

  • dimplasm

    Here’s another thing abused kids often fear. If this has happened to them by the family that “loves” them does stuff like this to them, just imagine what families that don’t know them might do. And believe me, those little girls were told this. They always are.

  • dimplasm

    “Have you ever spent THIRTY days in prayer and fasting just to draw closer to God? Have you ever risked your life to witness to Chicago street gangs? Have you ever spent most of your time away from home, when you hate to travel, for the sake of ministering to others?”

    Tell you what, Rick “The Prick” Boyer of HEAV (really, that is such and appropriate acronym, I can’t imagine it’s actually true), I’ve spent quite a bit of time working with abused and neglected children, I’ve spent time picking up drunk, homeless vets off of the streets of Little Rock and getting them to safety. What I have never done is molest little girls and then spend years and years trying to cover it up, all the while, spreading hate and condemnation about other people. You are as disgusting and Josh “Sister Raper” Duggar and his Sister Raping family of apologists.

    • alnnc

      You hit it on the hypocrisy. They condemn others and condone or excuse people in their midst doing the same or worse. I pulled a link on the Clinton affair and noted that 6 GOP Congress members pushing for Clinton’s impeachment had to step down because their own affairs were uncovered. Only Clinton finished his term. As Hastert can affirm, sometimes those skeletons in the closet can get a little noisy. And expensive.

      • whitroth

        Note that one of them, I forget who, had his freakin’ mistress at the Impeachment….


  • jw

    ooooo, are we being too hard on the ADMITTED serial, incestuous child molester for him? He can fuck. right. off.

    • dshwa

      And when he gets there, he can fuck off again.

  • kindness

    I am obviously not up to Duggar caliber. I never fondled my sister. I went to public schools. I had lots of sex before marriage. Lots. None with relatives. The Duggars would certainly not let me in their front door.

    • Well, if you found Jeebus, repented a lot, and became a born-again virgin, heck, maybe you could get in their front door. Why you’d want to is beyond me, but heck, it could happen.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        You forgot the part about “bring large bags of money.”

        • Preferably in non-sequentially numbered bills.

    • BehaveYrself

      No side-hug for you!

  • Mehmeisterjr

    I did quite a bit of commenting on Rick Boyer over on Raw Story and I don’t want to repeat myself but one striking thing about Mr. Boyer is how quickly images of grotesque sadism spring to his mind. He must be terrified that the whole Arkansas Rape and Incest Club is going fall apart.

    • dimplasm

      Unfortunately, it isn’t limited to Arkansas. This cult of child abusers spans several states.

      • jw

        It’s one, giant, gross, interconnected child molesting/grooming cult

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Hey! The first rule of Arkansas Rape and Incest Club is don’t talk about Arkansas Rape and Incest Club!

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Rick Boyer.

    Another individual who challenges the Commenting Rules for Radicals by his very existence.

  • OooShiny

    Rick Boyer, this quiverfull mob boss who defends both Josh Duggar and Bill Gothard, also wrote a book lovingly entitled “The Hands-On Dad.”

    Currently imprisoned sex offender Jerry Sandusky also wrote a book lovingly entitled “Touched.”

    • jw


    • Mehmeisterjr

      I am not a Freudian but I think the concept of the Freudian Slip is valid. Both those book titles rate as “tells” in the poker-playing sense.

  • dimplasm

    How many laws did Josh Duggar break? How many types of child maltreatment did Josh Duggar, and his parents, commit? Let’s turn now to the Child Maltreatment Protocal for the State of Arkansas (DCFS Publications, Pub-357) for our answers…

    • Blank Ron

      But, but, but, Jeebus says he’s forgiven and therefore the crimes didn’t happen!

  • SadDemInTex


    The authors of the bestselling book “BOUNDARIES” explain the difference between forgiveness and reconciliation: “Do not think that because you have forgiven means you have to reconcile. You can offer reconciliation, but it must be contingent upon the other person owning [their] behavior and bringing forth trustworthy fruits…Forgiveness is very hard. It means letting go of something that someone ‘owes’ you…Warning: forgiveness and opening up to more abuse are not the same thing. Forgiveness has to do with the past. Reconciliation and boundaries have to do with the future.” (p. 256,257,258, 268, 269).

    Especially in spiritually abusive environments, people are told that forgiveness is the same thing as reconciliation. We are told we must accept the abuser’s apology and allow him/her back into our lives. Victims are often encouraged to smile and welcome the abuser back because once an abuser has “repented,” it’s a sin to “hold bitterness” in our hearts. But this isn’t true. It’s actually harmful for us to reconcile with someone who hasn’t demonstrated changed behavior because it’s a violation of our God-given rights and boundaries.

    Forgiveness is something I can do on my own; i.e., release someone from the debt they owe me, “charge off” their account, so to speak. But forgiveness DOES NOT MEAN I am required to reconcile with that person. And furthermore, it does NOT mean that I am required to release them from the legal consequences of their actions.” This is the link to her entire essay

    • Mehmeisterjr

      For once, and probably for the only time, I’m going to write that she seems nice and mean it.

      • SadDemInTex

        If you didn’t read the entire essay, Mehmeisterjr, I heartily suggest you do. This part was the most applicable at the moment.

        • Mehmeisterjr

          I did and it is well worth the reading. She’s a remarkably clear-sighted woman who knows the mentality of religious cultism from personal experience. I’ll have to read her book.

  • dimplasm
    • harryeagar

      Jeebus, the string of comments on ‘tracks’ is damn near as disgusting as a bowlful of Doogars.

  • AnOuthouse

    It is not alleged. He admits he did it.

    • dimplasm


  • Latverian Diplomat

    So where were (the older*) of these wise Christianists with their “born again” respect for the principle of innocent until proven guilty when Satanic Panic swept through the nation’s daycare centers and put some innocent folks in jail?

    If you guessed “in the front, trying to set their pitchfork on fire so it could double as a torch and they wouldn’t have to carry two things” you guessed correctly.

    *It was a while ago, so I will reluctantly cut the younger wingnuts some slack on this one.

  • BelleVA

    The sisters are silent because they don’t have a choice. Or they don’t believe they have a choice.

    • starfanglednut

      And that’s the saddest part of the whole thing. I hope they escape somehow.

  • andreamd

    dig on me- here is what I did – I admit it here. On the way back from seeing a required film(Othello) in high school, I stopped and had a slice of pizza even though we were not allowed to have lunch outside of school. That is it. My sin. Of course ,I didn’t repent or ask Jesus for help.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Right– you don’t hear the victims out there railing against their abuser. It’s not like they live in a patriarchal conclave that blames sexual abuse victims for having vaginas and requires women to be utterly subservient to men or anything. If they thought what their brother did was wrong, why they’d all have been on Oprah already!

    • janecita

      Exactly! Those poor girls have been beaten into submission, literally. Jim Bob and Michelle used a rod to beat up the kids. They also used that fucked up blanket method to train them into the spaced out idiots they all are today.

      • starfanglednut

        Blanket method? Do I even want to know?

        • jmk

          You put a baby on a blanket and tell it not to leave the blanket. When it crawls off the blanket because babies are like that, you hit the baby with a “switch” and put it back on the blanket until it learns not to move.


          • starfanglednut


          • BehaveYrself

            Really, just fuck them. Fuck them all.

          • jw

            Shut the fuck up – please tell me this is not a real thing

          • jmk

            I wish I could. I wish the fuck to everything anyone ever found holy I could.

            If you really want the horrors, read the Wikipedia article on To Train Up a Child.

          • nightmoth

            Been trying to get Amazon to ban that book for a while now, especially since it’s caused at least 2 child deaths.

        • janecita
        • dshwa

          No you don’t. It is terrible, abusive, and explains a great deal about how truly fucked up the whole clan probably is.

      • Ranina

        OMG And was this “method” shown on TV? Which implies that their admiring audience might practice it?? Horrible.

        • janecita

          I don’t know, I’ve never watched the show. But she recommends it on her website (Michelle).

  • Jen_Baker_VA

    I am beginning to think these people are all using their religion as a front for child abuse.
    Seriously o.O wow. Just. Dude, the guy hid his son’s “sin” (aka, crime) and allowed him to keep molesting his own daughters. For at least one year. You are not half the man he is? You sure you want to be saying that?

    • Amy!

      I can’t figure out if that means that Rick covered up his own son’s molesting of sisters for more than two years, or less than six months.

  • Virginia Dreaming

    There is an article in defamer collecting various Duggar anecdotes. One of them is that one of the kids told Pa Duggar that they were worried about a brother who had been in the bathroom too long. Pa Duggar walked in and caught the boy masturbating. He began screaming at the boy so loudly the crew came to make sure no one was hurt. Pa Duggar started talking about “idle hands,” and the next day the boy was made to do all his chores with his hands bound together. Contrast this with Josh’s punishment for molesting his sisters – nothing until he admitted it, then a stern talking to after lying about it for months. Then 3 months of construction work and another talking to after he continued molesting his sisters.
    In what world do you get more upset about catching one son masturbating than finding out that another son was molesting his sisters?

    • Unforgotten

      The Duggars’ one.

  • “Should they have skinned Josh alive, rolled him in salt and hung him on a meathook?”

    Oh, you tease you!

  • I have a new name for fans of the Duggars. The Duggalos.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall


  • Sheesko

    Why does Josh Duggar look like a three-year-old who has never seen sunlight? I’m biting my lower lip trying and trying to figure it out.

  • starfanglednut

    Look, I’m sorry. I’m no Duggar apologist, but the times Josh broke the law (that we know about) he was fourteen. Yes, he grew up to be an asshole. We can hate him for that. And probably continued to molest children into his adulthood (I don’t think people like this stop without treatment), and we can hate him for that too, but it’s the parents who were criminally responsible when the original incidents took place.

    The whole family is so repellant that it’s hard to have sympathy for any of them, but the kid was only fourteen years old. That kind of behavior in a adolescent is a symptom of an abusive environment.

    I am as grossed out by the Duggars as the next person, but I wince at all this hatred for a teenage boy.

    • janecita

      I don’t think that the hatred is for the adolescent, the hatred is for the arrogant, holier than thou, douche bag that he grew up to be. Also, he never got any therapy for his sexual deviation. I blame the parents even more than I blame him. They created a fertile environment for this kind of behavior.

      • starfanglednut

        I hear you. We’re pretty much saying the same things. And I’ve been coming here for years and know the wonketeers to be by and large a compassionate bunch. I’ve just heard a lot of stuff in the comments since this story broke about what a criminal, pervert, etc Josh was, and it makes me wince and feel like a hypocrite. Any other fucked up teenager, we’d be a lot more sympathetic. At the time, he was a disturbed adolescent acting out. His parents are responsible for the continued molestation of their daughters, and for him not getting the help he needed. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not sympathetic for his subsequent gay bashing etc. It’s just something here is making me uncomfortable.

        • sillyclucker

          I think I feel equal (perhaps more) anger toward the Duggar supporters. I would guess most did not grow up in this religion but seem to think we all need to shut up and let the Duggars continue to infect the airwaves.

          • BehaveYrself

            It’s because they don’t want to be WRONG…About JimBob, and Michelle’s bad hair, and the love of their baby jeebus who makes them better than everybody else. They waved the Duggar flag as righteous and holy, and will defend it with their own integrity. Weird, clannish, and fucking dangerous.

          • Kat Anyperson

            That’s how many cults hold onto members. They become so invested in it, they don’t want to be wrong about the crap they are being fed.

    • ShriekinViolet

      I think I’m with you on this. He’s not a “bad apple” – he’s the result of a system, an ideology, he’s exactly what you would expect from his environment. Really, what different outcome could be expected? In French, they say that dogs don’t make cats. He learned this somewhere.

      I am in no way excusing him but I wonder what goes on behind those dead eyes after midnight. Is he a tortured soul wondering what was taken from him that he ended up like this? Or is he just a vile excuse for a human?

      Judging other people is a tricky business and maybe not one that we should be involved in. Sure, we should ridicule the hateful posturing in his role as chief asshole of whatever terrible rightwing “values” group he worked for but maybe we should also lament his own lost youth as we lament the lost youth of his victims.

      I don’t know the answers to any of this but he didn’t spring ex nihilo into this situation. As much as he needs to be put down (with votes, obvs), somewhere along the way, he was probably getting diddled by some “Patriarch”.

      Listen, I like to gloat and claim that all Republicans are shit-sipping horror shows but there is too much pain and damage here to overlook. I kind of think they’re all victims here…just not at the same time. And victims of some crimes are so wrecked by those crimes that they are destined to become perpetrators of those crimes. I’m not excusing JD at all but I think it’s important to view him as both offender and victim.

      There’s a lesson here somewhere but it’s too fucked up for me to grasp it. I just hope those girls can get some peace or get out.

      • starfanglednut

        Yes, thank you. Well said. Perhaps its easier for me to be sympathetic because I don’t have cable so have never had to watch or listen to these people. I take it they’re extremely annoying, lol.

        It also really saddens me that if this were a black kid and the issue had been taken to the police he’d still be in jail.

      • Morrigan In Oregon

        I propose this is mostly a crime of opportunity. As seen below, the younger girls were concentrated in a group while more children joined.

        Ages of Duggar children in 2003.

        1 Joshua James “Josh” March 3, 1988 (age 15)

        2 *Jana Marie January 12, 1990 (age 13)

        3 John-David January 12, 1990 (age 13)

        4 *Jill Michelle (Dillard) May 17, 1991 (age 12)

        5 *Jessa Lauren (Seewald) November 4, 1992 (age 11)

        6 *Jinger Nicole December 21, 1993 (age 10)

        7 Joseph Garrett January 20, 1995 (age 8)

        8 Josiah Matthew August 28, 1996 (age 7)

        9 *Joy-Anna October 28, 1997 (age 6

        10 Jedidiah Robert December 30, 1998 (age 5)

        11 Jeremiah Robert December 30, 1998 (age 5)

        12 Jason Michael April 21, 2000 (age 3)

        13 James Andrew July 7, 2001 (age 2)

        14 Justin Samuel November 15, 2002 (age 1]

        15 Jackson Levi May 23, 2004 (not yet born)

        16 *Johannah Faith October 11, 2005 (not yet born)

        17 *Jennifer Danielle August 2, 2007 (not yet born)

        18 *Jordyn-Grace Makiya December 18, 2008 (not yet born)

        19 *Josie Brooklyn December 10, 2009 (not yet born)

        • JustPixelz

          Reportedly, one of Josh’s victims is still a minor. He’s 27 now and the minor is still under 18 — a nine year age difference. That means at age 14 he was duggaring a 5 year-old (or younger).

      • kfreed

        Sorry. the Josh Duggar sympathy tour needs to end. These maniacs are promoting the Gothard lunacy all over the country (including adult Josh), via CPAC even, and they know perfectly well what they’re doing:

        There’s way more to this than some teenage psychosis.

    • Unforgotten

      Kind of remind me of an old Law & Order SVU episode that caused a lot of talk in my home.
      The police grabs this pedophile and finds out that a kid he used to molest grew up to become himself a pedo, but they needs his testimony to lock the ********** away for good.
      What about the victim(s) (can’t recall the actual number) of the former victim-now predator?
      Well, that (fictional) character knew that what he did was bad, so no deal with the DA office and he ends up in jail too.
      There’s a real story going on somewhere, google it, about a girl who was repeatedly raped/sexually molested by her brothers (4 or 5 of them!) until one of them ‘found god’ (from other ‘source’ than his parents) and confessed the whole stuff. He’s sorry, he’s really sorry and he’s going to jail for what he did, and so are going his parents and his other brothers…
      He realize what he did and what he should do, Josh didn’t.

    • JAWs

      Boy I was wondering when this hoary old chestnut would rear it’s ugly head given that Duggar fanatics have already recited it about a zillion times on every mention of this story on other web sites.

      Luckily SadDeminTex above already gives a adequate response so I don’t have to pull up the 5000 web posts that have already put this tired defense to bed.

      • starfanglednut

        You know, the Internet is really strange. The anonymity of it seems to make people feel it’s ok to be disrespectful in a way they wouldn’t (at least I hope) in person. If I have a different opinion from you, my opinion is “a hoary chestnut” and I am just like the right wing commentors on Fox News. Fwiw, I wouldn’t treat you that way. I’ve been coming to wonkette for many years, and there’s been a lot of friendliness mixed in with the snark. Perhaps that’s changed. This is the second time this week I’ve been attacked for having a different opinion. I can’t say I care for it. I see your point–I have thought this through more than you seem to give me credit for–and I imagine in person we could have a respectful conversation, but I guess it’s not going to happen here. That’s too bad. Take care.

        • kfreed

          “ok to be disrespectful”

          Are you implying that we are required to demonstrate respect for people who teach that child rape is perfectly acceptable because ‘Christian’?

          Are you telling us that we should demonstrate “respect” for people who operate hate groups and promote child abuse? Ahem:

          Nope. Go peddle your pity party elsewhere.

          • starfanglednut

            No. You might want to reread my post. I never said that child rape is ok, or that being “christian” excuses it, or that you should respect people who believe those things. I don’t think there should have been no consequences, and I certainly don’t think that some kind of phony repentance makes it ok, or that having a fucked up childhood excuses being a homophobic, misongyninst dickwad as an adult. I have plenty of disdain for the man Josh turned out to be.

            All I’m trying to say, and its pretty simple really, is that a 14 year old kid–again, not the adult he grew up to be–who likely had blanket training for fucks sake, deserves some measure of sympathy, and was less criminally liable than the ADULTS who allowed the situation to take place and then continue. I stand by this belief, no matter how much you refuse to try to understand or even consider it.

            I think Josh should have been arrested and removed from the home. Then treatment should have been part of whatever sentence he received, followed up by many years of probation and registration as a sex offender if they do that with juveniles. The kid was dangerous.

            And lest you think I’m not sympathetic towards his victims, I was sexually abused for thirteen years, so I have a leg to stand on.

            Honestly, it’s like you’re misunderstanding me on purpose, or are not really reading what I wrote.

            You didn’t engage me in a discussion. You just made a bunch of assumptions about my opinions and then insulted me for what you believed them to be.

            When I referred to respect, I was saying that I don’t deserve to be insulted–accused of being a hate-group sympathizer– just because my opinion differs from the prevailing one on this thread, and that people like you only have the balls/sense of entitlement to do so because you’re hiding behind a keyboard.

            I’m not some right-wing troll. I’ve been coming here since the Ken Layne days.

            So go peddle your poor reading comprehension and baseless insults elsewhere. See, doesn’t feel too good, does it?

  • Callyson

    “Abuse” is the new “racism.” As soon as you acknowledge that you are guilty of it, you’re considered guilty.


  • SadDemInTex

    I once had a conversation with a Christian fundamentalist about holding young children responsible for heinous crimes that they have committed. (I was, of course, the advocate for “it’s a child” for god’s sake). He calmly stated that 9 (nine) years old was the age of reason. And that a child who had committed a crime (murder, for example) could be held responsible because they know the difference between right and wrong. This incest pedo was 14. By their own opinions they should hold him responsible. Seriously, at 14, he knew that doing this was so, so wrong. His younger sisters knew it was wrong. It is completly horrid!

    • dimplasm

      They knew it was wrong too. That’s why they busted their asses to cover it up.

  • Virginia Dreaming

    Psst Rick, considering how you are telling thousands of parents to teach their kids that women and girls don’t deserve any respect or dignity, you need to shut the fuck up and pray that none of these girls doesn’t give you the respect you have earned.

    • dimplasm

      Or grow up and tell all. Or actually protect her kids from the predators in this cult.

  • Barley_Brains

    “…an actual criminal who did the kind of things we are pretty sure Jesus [IF HE WERE ALIVE TODAY] would not approve of.”

    Seems like it just needed a little something.

  • guppy06

    Boyer, like presidential contender (LOL) and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (see above re WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?), thinks Josh has already suffered enough

    Let’s consult an online, populist source about some of the people that former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee has killed:

    Mark Gardner, executed by Mike Huckabee in 1999, used his last words to remind us that “(b)lessed are those who are called to the Lord’s supper. A never-ending feast awaits me. I love the Melanie Alberson family (his pastoral advisor) and I thank them very much.”

    In 2000, Mike Huckabee executed Christina Marie Riggs, who, on the gurney that Mike Huckabee put her on, declared “No words can express just how sorry I am for taking the lives of my babies. No way I can make up for or take away the pain I have caused everyone who knew and loved them.”

    Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee did not feel that they, or any of the other 14 people he executed, had suffered enough. If only they had been as politically connected as the Duggars are, Christian love and mercy might have been extended to them by Mike Huckabee who, after all, is a member of the Party of Life™.

  • John

    these people are sick and I really, really hope they keep on talking. with each word they say, they make the sane folks of the world realize just how bat-sh*t nuts these “cray-cray Christians” are.

  • Stinky_Hole

    No, I’m not going to read through all the comments to see if somebody else has noticed this:
    Seven or so years ago, Pop turned Josh in to the cops. Why?
    Since it’s irresponsible not to speculate, my guess is that Josh did something to someone else’s little girl that her parents objected to, and they agreed not to press charges if JimBob and clowncarvagina went to the authorities first. Which they did, to somebody on the local police force that they knew, and they could trust, who could make it all go away. Except it didn’t.

    • I believe he Duggared a non-related baby-sitter as well.

      I dunno if having a cop who’s doing 50+ yrs. for child porn give Josh a “lecture” is exactly turning him in.

    • kakugori

      Internet rumor and speculation: it might be one of former Duggar friend Jim Holt’s daughters, who MAY have been early engaged/courting/betrothed/whatever to Josh. Again, internet rumor: they got caught in a room together somewhere, and that was it for the Duggar/Holt family Sunday church gatherings. Holt hasn’t appeared in the local election cycles for a while now, either. Jim Holt is credited with the “sin in the camp” quote re:JB’s election loss. And this:

  • riledupone

    So is the tie that Duggardiddler wearing in the pic the school tie of the Ringling Bros. Clown College?

    • Alice Wolfson

      I hate clowns but even they wouldn’t be seen in that cheap looking piece of polyester tie. I wonder if he ever used it to gag any of his victims? I wish he’d use it to hang himself…

  • Enfant Terrible

    Offered without comment for your edification:

    • jw

      This would be hilarious except that this is where the TeaThuglicanMcCarthyites want to drag us back to

      • Enfant Terrible

        The only hilarious thing about this is the commenting from the MST3K crew. Otherwise, it’s horrifying – Parenting Through Repression. “Don’t talk about Real Life during dinner. Or before dinner. Or after dinner.”

        • jw

          Yes, like I said, where the TeaThuglicanMcCarthyites want to drag us back to

    • JAWs

      “Brother treats Mother as if she were his best girl!”

  • Morrigan In Oregon

    Bill Gothard, the guy who developed the How To Not Rape Your Sisters lesson plan,

    Ol’ Willie Gothard, I remember him from High School, long before homeschooling!

  • Celtic_Gnome

    Not too surprised by Mr. Boyer’s statement. If he ran away from Duggar and Gothard (isn’t it amazing how easy it is to remember those names?), it could be the first pebbles in an avalanche that could take down his whole grifty empire.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      “gothard and duggar” just rolls off the tongue, doesn’t it?

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    “Should they have skinned Josh alive, rolled him in salt and hung him on a meathook?”

    I like it better when these fuckwads stick to their gaysex fantasies.

    • JAWs

      That was a classic case if projection right there. For those who don’t speak wingnut-ese, that roughly translates too: “they should save those actions for REAL crimes, like ‘coloreds’ moving into the neighborhood.”

    • Portia Elm

      that sounds like how you make bacon to me…but then a lot of people get really orgasmic over bacon

    • Zhu Bajie

      Just hung him up.

  • Alex Grey

    Sex offender list anyone?

  • elpinche

    Kinda makes sense why diddler fundies like Duggard and Gothard hate abortion so much. Can’t waste a future rape victim.

  • “garbage person Josh Duggar used to touch his sisters in their bathing suit areas”

    Considering the bathing suits they wear that could be almost anywhere.

  • Alice Wolfson

    You could call Josh an incubus but I don’t believe an incubus would visit his sisters as they slumbered.

  • JAWs

    This, incidentally, is one of my problems with Christianity (or at least as it’s practiced here): all “sins” (as oppose to “crimes, which this also qualifies) have to be classified as equal with no filters, so say, wearing your skirt too high (“I saw a whole ankle! “) or “believing” in the THEORY of evolution is just as much an offront to Jesus as, say repeatedly molesting underaged family members. In addition they are all required to be “resolved” the same way (“take two prayers with a cup of sanctimony and call me in the morning.”)

    See by categorizing such acts as mere “sins” (again, as oppose to “crime”) Josh Duggar’s depravity can be reduced to a mere “indiscretion” or moral “oopsie” that only needs to be resolved by concerned Christians praying it away with the same moral fevor as if one of the Duggar girls wore a tankini or something.

  • Lazy Media

    There’s home-schoolin’ and home-schoolin’. My friend with the engineering degree whose kid was flunking out of sixth grade home-schooled him because her local school system was doing nothing to help his learning disability. He wound up with a good education because, surprise, having a super smart teacher who is REALLY INTERESTED in your education is quite a good thing. His siblings that she home-schooled are doing even better, including offers and scholarships from some pretty solid colleges. Bible-thumping home schooling to avoid the taint of secular education; that’s the actual problem.

  • canaduck

    ‘How much would it cost them to find dirt on YOU? Would they have to dig that hard?’

    What the fuck is wrong with this guy? Yes, they would have to dig really, really hard. Like, right through the centre of the earth and beyond. And it would cost more money than exists on the planet. Because like most people who deserve to exist, I have never, ever, ever done anything even remotely close to being as bad as MOLESTING a child. Jesus Christ, talk about projection. Maybe we should be looking into Boyer’s past now.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      But he’s a fine evangelical Xtian who… oh, I see what you mean.

  • nightmoth

    Answer for Rick Boyer’s ? “What should have been done”

    Skinned Josh alive, and rest of your sick torture fantasy—NO
    Turned kids over to godless psychologist—YES

    You’re welcome.

  • BlueMonkey

    The immorality of these fundie bible humpers continues to amaze. Yes, the kids are victims, but ffs, he’s a grown ass man now and was still spewing hateful crap for a living before he got busted. These assholes have an endless fount of forgiveness of their own disgusting ilk, and show no compassion for anyone else. And Fuckabee needs to just go away, forever, with his own dog-torturing spawn.

  • m3bosha

    “How much would it cost them to find dirt on you?”

    Well, lemmie think. Since I am a normal person who’s parents were not covering up me molesting my sisters, it would probs take a lot of money to uncover the non existent dirt. Or perhaps no monies. Holy crap. Are we in the matrix?

  • Santana999

    When someone asks how much it would cost to dig up dirt on me, it usually means that there is a lot of dirt in theirmown past and they assume that to be true of everyone. Well sorry, boys but most of us grew up keeping our hands off other people’s naughty bits.

  • Everybodhi

    They seem to keep defending child molestation and incest with, “who here didn’t have sex with their brother or sister growing up?”

  • ZZZzzzz

    Josh Duggar is a disgusting pedophile! I think he took some kid-diddling lessons from Lena Dunham.

  • StThomas

    “But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it
    were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and
    that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”

    Just a thought….

  • kfreed

    [Josh Duggar] “lived an exemplary life…”

    Sure… if you call serving as Executive Director of a hate group ‘living an exemplary life’…


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