CRYING ALSO TOO  3:47 pm December 14, 2012

Here Is Barack Obama Politicizing Guns By Saying The Word ‘Guns’

by Rebecca Schoenkopf

Here, courtesy of DailyKos, is President Barack Obama almost able (not really) to get through his statement on the massacre in Newtown, Connecticut. Surprisingly, no reporters in the White House briefing room shouted a dick question at him as he moved quickly from the podium. We guess Ghost Andrew Breitbart and his new minion Matthew Boyle don’t have White House press passes. Oh, sorry, was that rude, or snarky, or politicizing or something? Go fuck yourself.

 

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Beetagger December 14, 2012 at 3:49 pm

Nothing to say. Nothing to snark about.

Mumbletypeg December 14, 2012 at 3:51 pm

Toomush_Infer December 14, 2012 at 3:59 pm

C'mon – after four years, he finally said something that legitimately made NRA staff's assholes tighten up…that's got to be worth one hidden gleam of comic excitement…

jjdaddyo December 14, 2012 at 4:19 pm

Hey, everybody take some of your outrage and contact your Congress Creatures and tell them you will not forget about how much money they take from the NRA and how little they do about gun control. http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?cycle=

JoeHoya December 14, 2012 at 3:49 pm

Now is not the time to talk about learning how to swim, we say, as the dam breaks.

Negropolis December 15, 2012 at 1:45 am

We don't have a choice.

gullywompr December 14, 2012 at 3:50 pm

I really hope he means that "regardless of politics" comment, although I imagine that he will run into nothing but politcs if he does really mean it.

woolmyn December 14, 2012 at 6:39 pm

Wonder who the first wingtard will be to suggest elementary school children should be able to bring guns to school.

oenspiek December 14, 2012 at 3:51 pm

Shooting down kids is beyond horrible. Nothing funny to say about it.

HRH_Maddie December 14, 2012 at 3:52 pm

Today is a sad day and hopefully a turning point in the quest for some sane gun control.

Limeylizzie December 14, 2012 at 3:52 pm

I hug my Wonkette children today, I am just sickened, I have no snark left.

imissopus December 14, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Why does he keep wiping at his eyes? IS THAT SOME SORT OF SECRET SHARIA HAND SIGNAL TO TAKE AWAY MY GUNZ?????

EDIT: Fifteen other comments and mine is the only snarky one? People, you are making me feel like an asshole! Or worse, Neilist.

RadioBitchFace December 14, 2012 at 3:59 pm

Where were those union thug teachers I've heard so much about?

imissopus December 14, 2012 at 4:07 pm

Thugs carry guns and teachers are thugs, so all the teachers in that school should have been armed to the teeth. QED.

redarmyzombie December 14, 2012 at 4:16 pm

Somewhere, surely, a RWNJ's head exploded just now…

gullywompr December 14, 2012 at 4:25 pm

Not really, I read exactly that statement on Briertfart not long ago. Seems if teachers are not capable of handling a gun, they are not capable of being a teacher.

HistoriCat December 14, 2012 at 5:21 pm

As someone who had a (brief, unsuccessful) career in teaching, it's probably best that teachers not carry guns – some of those kids are masters at pushing your buttons. Cattle prods on the other hand …

teebob2000 December 14, 2012 at 4:07 pm

Using their bodies as shields to protect their children.

MissNancyPriss December 15, 2012 at 1:44 am

No, today they are heros. Next week they will be union thugs again.

ingloriousbytch December 14, 2012 at 4:00 pm

I suspect the snark will return once the real wingnut outrage starts to trickle out onto the web.

RadioBitchFace December 14, 2012 at 4:08 pm

ZOMG , they are already trying to link this to Fast and Furious.

NellCote71 December 14, 2012 at 4:28 pm

That's it. I am outta of here (this country). We are insane.

Lascauxcaveman December 14, 2012 at 5:21 pm

Come back here, you chicken. Most of us aren't insane. It's just that the ones who are insane are VERY LOUD AND NEVER STOP TALKING.

Saint Ronnie did his best to empty all the mental hospitals; maybe it's our job to fill 'em back up again.

HistoriCat December 14, 2012 at 5:22 pm

That's what I said – but everyone seems determined to convince that it's not better anywhere else.

gullywompr December 14, 2012 at 4:11 pm

It started immediately, and not with a trickle.

smokefilledroommate December 14, 2012 at 3:54 pm

Absolutely heartbreaking.. jesus fucking christ.

slithytoves December 14, 2012 at 3:54 pm

I just wanna cry, and I am.

Hammiepants December 14, 2012 at 3:54 pm

I can't wrap my head around this, and I know I am going to go batshit insane over the next few day/weeks hearing the assclowns on the right justifying their fucking "Second Amendment rights".

NellCote71 December 14, 2012 at 4:29 pm

Almost makes me want to go buy a gun. But tearing their throats open with my bare hands will so much more satisfying.

Lascauxcaveman December 14, 2012 at 5:22 pm

That's the spirit!

HouseOfTheBlueLights December 14, 2012 at 6:34 pm

I asked a couple of close, but very conservative, friends on Facebook to please unfriend me before they post anything about gun control, and then refriend me in a couple of weeks.

Botlrokit December 14, 2012 at 3:54 pm

Such a hard day.

rickmaci December 14, 2012 at 3:55 pm

I think we are all sick at heart, again. My snark is gone today.

Callyson December 14, 2012 at 3:55 pm

No snark–every time I have seen a kid today (and since I run in a park, I see a lot of them) I have just wanted to cry in sorrow. I cannot imagine how the parents must feel.

jqheywood December 14, 2012 at 4:09 pm

As a parent, I can tell you…it is a gut kick like you've never had before. It is every parent's worst nightmare. Around my workplace, you can tell the parents…we are the ones walking around barely (if at all) keeping it together. That's not to dis the non-parents at all. They are also upset. But it taps into the core of terror for parents.

Callyson December 14, 2012 at 4:41 pm

My God…best wishes to you and all the parents out there…

Rufus T. Firefly December 14, 2012 at 3:55 pm

I hereby secede from the human race. What the fuck is wrong with people?

Dr_Zoidberg December 14, 2012 at 3:58 pm

Days like today are why, more often than I like to admit, I wish for a plague to wipe humanity from the face of the earth.

HistoriCat December 14, 2012 at 5:23 pm

Easy for you to say you stupid lobster!

Botlrokit December 14, 2012 at 3:58 pm

NO. There are better people. And they better disarm, unlock their doors, and share recipes again. It is time to let go of our fear, and transcend it into love.

Toomush_Infer December 14, 2012 at 4:23 pm

Thank you

NellCote71 December 14, 2012 at 4:31 pm

You are a good person. A lot better than the sentiments I am feeling right now.

Gayer_Than_Thou December 14, 2012 at 5:55 pm

Mental illness, I fear, is what's wrong with people, and we don't seem to be able to do much about taking untreated mental illness seriously. Oh, and a pro-gun lobby that seems willing to stop at nothing to defend its interpretation of the Second Amendment. On that latter point, we (the gun lobby and I) fundamentally disagree.

Roger_of_Arabia December 15, 2012 at 8:26 am

It's not so much humans, it's America.

DrunkIrishman December 14, 2012 at 3:57 pm

:(

ingloriousbytch December 14, 2012 at 3:58 pm

No snark but I'm proud as hell to have a president who is enough of a man and a human to cry over what happened today.

Mojopo December 14, 2012 at 4:02 pm

Me too. Pres. Dad came through.

Roger_of_Arabia December 15, 2012 at 8:29 am

He's a fucking pussy for crying, or, alternatively, they were fake for the cameras. I think the Fox right will go with the latter while the fringe far right will go with the former reaction.

JustPixelz December 15, 2012 at 8:59 pm

Over on TPM or Think{Progress someone took the opportunity to post a long rambling birther post. "Barack Hussein Obama is not the legitimate President." blah blah blah. He's an asshole. I too am proud of my President. Thank you for reminding us what kind of man he is.

memzilla December 14, 2012 at 4:00 pm

The only popping sound I want to hear is heads exploding (from votes) in the Faux News editorial cave and in certain offices of certain congressmen, figuring out how to trivialize this tragedy in furtherance of their all-guns-all-the-time dickhead agenda without sounding like heartless bastards.

NellCote71 December 14, 2012 at 4:31 pm

Me, too. Amen. Right on.

woolmyn December 14, 2012 at 6:43 pm

I had the local Fox affiliate on when the breaking news came through. Switched to another station immediately because I knew they'd be spinning already.

Biel_ze_Bubba December 15, 2012 at 2:08 pm

"how to trivialize this tragedy in furtherance of their all-guns-all-the-time dickhead agenda without sounding like heartless bastards"

What makes you think they care about sounding like heartless bastards?

Come here a minute December 14, 2012 at 4:01 pm

This tragedy could have been prevented with tax cuts.

Naked_Bunny December 14, 2012 at 4:29 pm

And teaching children how bad communism is.

Will_Panic December 14, 2012 at 4:35 pm

Barring that, if only one of those kindergartners had been carrying…

Roger_of_Arabia December 15, 2012 at 8:30 am

Tax credits for gun purchases.

Beowoof December 14, 2012 at 4:01 pm

Can't snark at all right now. Just sadness, need to get home and hug my 4 and 5 year old grand kids. Then all things considered I think I will dedicate my life to two things to make teabagger heads explode, universal health care and gun control. Sorry Cletus but you don't need an assault rifle to go hunting pigs in the Georgia woods.

Antispandex December 14, 2012 at 4:01 pm

"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"

Let's hope they aren't watching this on Fox News… and learning.

NinjaCat_Baba December 14, 2012 at 4:02 pm

I am sad:( for the innocent lost and >:( at the reporter who said it's part of life and we must live with it. To me, that's just give up. There are solutions to minimize and/or prevent another tradegy, people must stand up and say "ENOUGH"! NRA GO TO HELL!

Doktor Zoom December 14, 2012 at 4:02 pm

So, for the sake of mentioning it, here's the thing I wrote after Aurora again. Mostly about the insanity of the idea that adding more guns to a crisis would somehow bring it to a quick and happy end, which is an understandable but wrongheaded fantasy.

And could we drop the strawman that since increased regulation wouldn't end all violence or all guns, we may as well do nothing? It's like saying don't treat cancer, since people will die of something anyway.

memzilla December 14, 2012 at 4:07 pm

The saddest part of what you wrote is that you wrote it less than five months ago.

Mojopo December 14, 2012 at 4:25 pm

This year has been so violent. How and when will we lead ourselves away from this? Multiple answers, and each of them needs to be discussed and implemented. It is the least we can do.

fuflans December 14, 2012 at 4:31 pm

here is mark kelly from china today:

My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims and the entire community of Newtown, CT. I just spoke to Gabby, and she sends her prayers from Tucson.

As we mourn, we must sound a call for our leaders to stand up and do what is right. This time our response must consist of more than regret, sorrow, and condolence. The children of Sandy Hook Elementary School and all victims of gun violence deserve leaders who have the courage to participate in a meaningful discussion about our gun laws – and how they can be reformed and better enforced to prevent gun violence and death in America. This can no longer wait.

maybe this time it will be different.

woolmyn December 14, 2012 at 6:45 pm

Thanks for posting this, I'm going to repost it so others can read it.

malsperanza December 14, 2012 at 9:40 pm

Well said.

Chow Yun Flat December 14, 2012 at 4:02 pm

I had forgotten that one of the unstated duties of the presidency is mourner in chief. While it does not (and cannot) do anything for those whose families were shattered today, I think the President was masterful and sincere in helping the nation face this horror.

slithytoves December 14, 2012 at 4:03 pm

Maybe you could give the NRA some feedback. http://feedback.nra.org/

An_Outhouse December 14, 2012 at 4:06 pm

4. If you interacted with navigation, did you find what you were seeking?
YesNo
If no, please explain:

I was looking for an apology

An_Outhouse December 14, 2012 at 4:08 pm

10. In general, were you able to easily navigate the network and find what you were seeking?
Yes No
If no, please explain:

I was looking for an apology

Doktor Zoom December 14, 2012 at 4:15 pm

Did you experience any difficulty while watching the videos?

Yes No

If yes, please explain:

I kept thinking of murdered children.

Mojopo December 14, 2012 at 4:44 pm

Could not find information about the way you're helping to prevent homicidal manaics from accessing firearms.

NellCote71 December 14, 2012 at 4:37 pm

Thanks, that was cathartic. I went with "blood on your hands," the previously mentioned "apology," and "burn in everlasting hell." Not very eloquent but I am so angry my hands are trembling.

MrsConclusion December 14, 2012 at 4:04 pm

Tut tut. The least you could say is, "Go fuck yourself PLEASE."

An_Outhouse December 14, 2012 at 4:04 pm

Remember when Ken Starr and the media forced everyone to explain the term blow job to their children, and it was all Clinton's fault? Will the NRA take responsibility for us having to comfort our children and try to assure them a random person with assault weapons won't gun them down or their class mates?

Also submitted to : http://feedback.nra.org/

Designer_Rants December 14, 2012 at 10:19 pm

Guns don't kill people, Elementary Schools kill people.

docterry6973 December 15, 2012 at 9:01 am

Correction:

'…almost certainly won't gun them down or their class mates?"

Biff December 14, 2012 at 4:05 pm

Latest estimate is 20 kids, 6 adults.

I've never cared much for kids, but I did the responsible thing by not having any, not going on a fucking rampage.

Lot_49 December 14, 2012 at 4:13 pm

He (whoever he is; that's also in doubt) also apparently shot his mother, if you can believe that.

Biff December 14, 2012 at 4:21 pm

And his father, at home. Before he went to the school.

mayor_quimby December 14, 2012 at 4:16 pm

Exactly man, a life of non-procreative sex is quite awesome, and I can see my godkids on the weekends – then go home and drink and fuck in peace.

sharethegrief December 14, 2012 at 4:05 pm

I just want to nuke the NRA, in my microwave, of course.
Hugs to this community and the families who will have unopened Christmas gifts under their trees and hugs to the children who will be haunted by this for perhaps a lifetime.

SayItWithWookies December 14, 2012 at 4:06 pm

As if life wasn't short or difficult enough.

sewollef December 14, 2012 at 5:00 pm

And, I'm guessing here, but since that part of CT is only 75 miles north-east of New York, it probably got hit with a hurricane six weeks ago too.

southernboyman December 14, 2012 at 4:06 pm

Politicize this. Politicize this from this moment until the day there is real gun control in this country.

Gayer_Than_Thou December 14, 2012 at 5:59 pm

Thank you. I am beginning to think no one really knows what "politicize" means anymore. I'm not sure I do.

slowhansolo December 15, 2012 at 12:15 am

Fuck. Yes. Fuck, yes. The problem and solutions are inherently political. Anyone who says "don't politicize" is either an idiot or vested interest in (child) murder.

The question, of course, is whether the politicians are up to it.

Goonemeritus December 14, 2012 at 4:07 pm

I believe we will have an atheist gay married family in the Whitehouse long before we muster the courage to address this problem in a meaningful way. I’m not exactly hopeless but I do think many more will die at the hands of well-armed crazy people before our politicians will grow a pair.

Mumbletypeg December 14, 2012 at 4:13 pm

It's true, if only because the trumpeted "right to bear arms" has gotten inextricably and fatally entwined with a huge, powerful industry. Same reason we won't see the end of our charming world-ranked status as a prison-generating engine. Until the industrial might of such insidious special interests gets harnessed, they'll continue to manipulate media and frame opinions into a wall of obstruction that deafens stubborn wills to the meaning of "justice" and hardens them against dialogue that's reasonably sane.

woolmyn December 14, 2012 at 7:02 pm

The gun nuts I know say, even after such a horrifying incident as this, that the gubmint is only looking for an excuse to take the first step to take away their guns. And they say we can't let them take the first step! But then I live in TX. They are so blinded by their ridiculous ideology that they can't see any logic in any kind of restriction whatsoever.

Blueb4sinrise December 14, 2012 at 4:07 pm
emmelemm December 14, 2012 at 4:34 pm

"The Second Piano Concerto."

Lot_49 December 14, 2012 at 4:08 pm

Wayne's over at NRA headquarters crafting his press release about how this shooting is part of Barry's second-term plan to take away our beloved guns. Don't tell anybody yet, but I heard the shooter was a member of ACORN.

dadanarchistmk2 December 14, 2012 at 4:09 pm

Now is not the time for snark or politics.

Now is the time for suggesting that certain people be fucked with Satan's spiky acid-tipped dick. With votes or something.

mayor_quimby December 14, 2012 at 4:09 pm

Watching MSNBC now, and SE Cupp, the libertarian is losing her shit on the air. She's been barely able to hold back tears, and isn't making her usual 'let us all be free and it will work itself out' type of arguments.

imissopus December 14, 2012 at 4:09 pm

Also looking at Matthew Boyle's twitter feed today is enough to send one into paroxysms of rage. That guy should be banished to a desert island with no way of communicating with the outside world so that his idiocy does not infect others. Actually I guess you could say that for anyone at Ghost Breitbart or the Daily Caller.

Biel_ze_Bubba December 15, 2012 at 2:14 pm

Comments on the BlightFart site are exactly what you'd expect from those mouthbreathers. Horrid stuff; they seem to enjoy being titanic dickheads.

FraAnima December 14, 2012 at 4:11 pm

I am here in Connecticut, tho well east of Newtown. Going back and forth from anger and tears. came home early and hugged my 15 yo daughter hard, knowing she will have a 16th birthday, unlike so many children in Newtown. Those poor families.

memzilla December 14, 2012 at 4:11 pm

Does everyone remember how quickly Wayne LaPierre, the head of the NRA, apologized for the Giffords shootings and the Aurora shootings, and said how sad and sorry he was that it happened?

Yeah me neither.

Lot_49 December 14, 2012 at 4:14 pm

Maybe Neilist could come back out of his spider hole and explain the virtues of an armed citizenry to us again, as he did after the Giffords massacre. And we'll want plenty of fappable weapons details!

DetectiveGrey December 14, 2012 at 4:14 pm

Dear Wonkette,

Without flying into a blind rage about the idiocy of turning potential victims into more potential aggressors, what do I say to a (very slightly) respected colleague who believes tragedies like this are why we should arm teachers?

Love,
DG

SayItWithWookies December 14, 2012 at 4:20 pm

That it's fucking insane to advocate that if we only keep making life more dangerous it'll suddenly become safer.

gullywompr December 14, 2012 at 4:30 pm

I think the blind rage thing is not all that unsuitable today.

Chet Kincaid_ December 14, 2012 at 4:30 pm

Response 1: Out of all the teachers who could be armed, there is not a single one who might actually be a latent and unforeseen danger to children, huh? Tell your colleague all the children should be armed, too.

Response 2: It really makes a lot of sense to put more guns into a situation instead of maybe giving some consideration to how you might better keep all guns out of schools.

Doktor Zoom December 14, 2012 at 4:31 pm

Perhaps remind him of how many professional gun-wielders — soldiers and cops — are involved in accidental, wrongful, and friendly-fire shootings. Not to mention suicides.

Then ask if he really wants a much larger group of amateurs walking around armed. Especially around kids, who would also need constant training and reminders of why why we don't make a grab for teacher's gun, even if it seems like a funny idea at the moment.

Dudleydidwrong December 14, 2012 at 4:32 pm

Insanity. I'm a retired teacher. The LAST people I believe should be carrying weapons on the job are teachers. School is a place of caring, safety, and warmth–prerequisites before learning can take place. If arming teachers is necessary for education to occur in this country, we have lost the battle completely and should apply for admission to the company of Somalia or Yemen.

NellCote71 December 14, 2012 at 4:41 pm

Or Syria.

TootsStansbury December 14, 2012 at 4:43 pm

I wish I could up fist this more.

SheriffRoscoe December 14, 2012 at 4:32 pm

I had a band director who would on occasion fly off the handle because someone was out of tune, and throw his baton at them. True story. Now imagine that situation with guns.

Chet Kincaid_ December 14, 2012 at 4:36 pm

Where some see Tyranny and Tragedy, I see #1 High School Band in the State!!

SheriffRoscoe December 14, 2012 at 4:39 pm

Must. Not. Laugh. (on this thread)

Chet Kincaid_ December 14, 2012 at 4:48 pm

I give you (and myself) permission for one chuckle.

slowhansolo December 15, 2012 at 12:29 am

Every band worth a damn has discipline, and sometimes you have to kick ass to enforce it. I'm thinking specifically about James Brown and Buddy Rich.

Notice, pearl-clutching, gun-toting, rationalizing swine, that I said "kick ass" and not "shoot someone through the heart."

bobbert December 15, 2012 at 4:01 am

Well, maybe #1 Brass Quintet.

NellCote71 December 14, 2012 at 4:41 pm

You had Mr. Banks, too?

SheriffRoscoe December 14, 2012 at 4:44 pm

Mr. Puckett. It was nice having a teacher's name rhyme with "fuck it."

missemish December 14, 2012 at 4:59 pm

My orchestra teacher would chuck her baton at us too! She also once threw a bow. She was terrifying. Having a gun handy would certainly have made me feel safer!

HouseOfTheBlueLights December 14, 2012 at 6:39 pm

I read that as "she once threw a boy"

slowhansolo December 15, 2012 at 12:32 am

We had a music director, briefly, who put together and played in our school jazz band with his mid-60s Les Paul and an original Marshall Bluesbreaker.

He lasted about a year before he was replaced by milquetoast thrower of objects.

dadanarchistmk2 December 14, 2012 at 4:33 pm

Remind him that teachers are also Union Thugz, and do we really want to arm them after what they did to Steven Crowder (12/12, never forget!)?

memzilla December 14, 2012 at 4:34 pm

Um, something something, statistical distribution spread of insanity over any given population cohort, more death. I haz not teh maths, but you get the idea.

shelwood46 December 14, 2012 at 4:35 pm

After the shooting at Virginia Tech, one of the professors there conducted an experiment with his classroom. The students' experience with handling guns ranged from none to lots and lots. He gave them each a paintball handgun and told them within the next hour, a masked shooter will enter the classroom with a paintgun rifle.

When said shooter did enter, expected and bearing a non-lethal weapon, not one student was able to hit the shooter before being shot themselves. Not one. Only one student got a hit in that was remotely close — a young woman who had never handled a gun before. It was noted that the big mistake made by the experienced shooters/students was to stand up before drawing their weapon to shoot back. The fake gunman picked them off like ducks at a fair.

Lot_49 December 14, 2012 at 4:41 pm

Yep, that's the deal with guns. Just having them doesn't make you safer. You have to know how to hit a target, and handguns are notoriously inaccurate. You have to learn that just waving a gun around won't make someone else do what you want. You have to train on how to shoot methodically, carefully, coolly. In other words you have to prepare yourself to become a premeditated, cold-blooded killer when some crazy with a gun appears.

Or we could just take the guns away from the crazies.

HouseOfTheBlueLights December 14, 2012 at 6:41 pm

Just listening to someone on NPR explain how school and mall shooters train themselves to be methodical. So not only would that be amateurs going up against a shooter, but up against a TRAINED shooter.

swordfis December 15, 2012 at 11:17 am

This is excellent – I'm putting it up on Facebook.

An_Outhouse December 14, 2012 at 5:05 pm

My response to teachers being armed: HOW FUCKED UP DO YOU WANT YOUR CHILDREN TO BE? Jesus, I've had teachers throw shit at the black board. I couldn't imagine an elementary kid's reaction to an armed teacher.

Jerri December 14, 2012 at 5:10 pm

Sure, arm them. But whatever you do, don't trust them enough to let them join a union to demand good pay. That would destroy the country.

People in this country are so fucked in the head when it comes to basic logic it's a wonder most of them don't shove toilet paper in their mouths after taking a shit. (Though some of them probably should.)

woolmyn December 14, 2012 at 7:07 pm

My experience with those kind of people is that that's where most of their shit comes out.

ingloriousbytch December 14, 2012 at 5:24 pm

Ask them what happens when some innocent child or fucked up teen gets a hold of Miss Crabapple's gun out of the desk drawer and ends up killing themselves or their classmates.

Also remind them that it might not be a good idea to give a gun to someone they call a lazy union thug who only works nine months out of the year.

Biel_ze_Bubba December 15, 2012 at 2:17 pm

Remind him that Lanza's mother had six guns in the house, for "protection", had put in time at the range, and was proficient. Ask him how well that worked out.

boobookitteh December 14, 2012 at 4:16 pm

There's something wrong with a society in which you have easier access to assault weapons than psychiatric care.

Caradeloca December 14, 2012 at 4:20 pm

amen

dadanarchistmk2 December 14, 2012 at 4:34 pm

Once again, as for so many things that suck in our society: Fuck you very much, Reagan.

TootsStansbury December 14, 2012 at 4:45 pm

There is. This country is populated (in part) be barbarians.

mrpuma2u December 14, 2012 at 4:58 pm

8000 virtual upfists to you.

Dumbedup December 14, 2012 at 4:18 pm

No snark today. The image in my mind, maybe because I am a parent, is little kids five years old curled up in corners, covering their faces, terrified, wishing their mommy or daddy were there, being slaughtered. It is time to Amend the constitution and limit and define the 2nd amendment, or fucking repeal it, I don't care, but don't tell me there is nothing we can do. We govern ourselves, and this blood is on all of our hands until we do something. Jesus christ, little innocent babies, I am sick over this.

DrunkIrishman December 14, 2012 at 4:18 pm

There's something wrong with a society when it's easier to get a gun than it is to vote.

FraAnima December 14, 2012 at 4:28 pm

And way easier to get a gun permit than a driving permit.

Caradeloca December 14, 2012 at 4:18 pm

He was crying because he realizes as President, even with his second term mandate, there's very little he can do to end this madness, and he'll be lucky to make it through the next four years.

Chet Kincaid_ December 14, 2012 at 4:19 pm

These shooters all seem to enjoy dressing in paramilitary black with weapons vests. They're all young, maladjusted white guys, literally or virtually stuck in their parents' basements. Is anybody going to take a look at our kill-everything-that-moves Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2 culture?

fuflans December 14, 2012 at 4:39 pm

i was thinking of this when i first heard the story (on bez). i automatically assumed the gunman was male, white and young. and then i went on little mental riff about how here in chi we hear another far too frequent story of young male deaths.

different pattern, same weapon.

Chet Kincaid_ December 14, 2012 at 4:44 pm

I guess I have seen too many commercials for "Call Of Duty" on ESPN today, glorifying intensely hyper-real military violence as if it were a big joke. We also love our guns-ablaze mayhem when it's the season finale to "Boardwalk Empire" and involves mostly old-timey white folk heroes like Lucky Luciano and Al Capone. I know guns are problem #1, but our culture fantasizing about them endlessly is a part of the problem, too.

slowhansolo December 15, 2012 at 12:37 am

Any connection to the constant glorification of all things military and law enforcement? (Same thing these days.)

sewollef December 14, 2012 at 5:05 pm

Well, it occurred to me after this news broke, that I can't remember a single time when one of these outrages began with: "the gunwoman killed….."

Why are none of these mass killings committed by women? Or have I just missed them?

shelwood46 December 14, 2012 at 5:30 pm

The only thing we women ever wanted to shoot was Gerald Ford, apparently.

docterry6973 December 15, 2012 at 9:04 am

Will anybody take a look at our kill-everything-that-moves-culture? No.

gullywompr December 14, 2012 at 4:19 pm

So, by unanimous consent of the Wonketterati, the resolution passes, and we hereby declare the NRA to be fucked.

Next item: brietbart.com. We will allow members to make brief opening remarks before voting…

sewollef December 14, 2012 at 5:08 pm

Point of order, Mr Chairperson gully.

I'd like to suggest we also have the assets of the NRA seized and distributed to victims families — at least.

gullywompr December 14, 2012 at 5:24 pm

Not hearing any objection, the motion passes on general consent.

HouseOfTheBlueLights December 14, 2012 at 6:43 pm

I would like to propose the amendment to include the words "on the point of Satan's acid-tipped dick" as per a commenter upthread.

GunToting[Redacted] December 14, 2012 at 4:20 pm

Well, here's hoping the Mayans are right!

SayItWithWookies December 14, 2012 at 4:43 pm

The Mayans were right — December 22nd will be the first day of another set of 5,000-some years in their calendar. It's everyone else who's wrong.

docterry6973 December 15, 2012 at 9:06 am

Like someone said in a tweet, I am really warming up to this Mayan apocalypse idea.

SheriffRoscoe December 14, 2012 at 4:22 pm

Alright. Let's ban some of the guns. If a tyrant seizes control of the country because we don't all have 100 guns a piece, you can blame me. In the meantime, I will point the finger of blame for these kid's deaths at the NRA, Republican Party, and all my crazy ass conservative friends who tell me about the Second Amendment. Fair enough.

damanoid December 14, 2012 at 4:22 pm

The last ten times this happened, it was tragic. Now, it's starting to become blackly hilarious. How long until it happens again? It will, of course, happen again and again. School shooting sprees are like tornadoes, unpredictable and unavoidable.

Supposedly, the Aztecs believed it was necessary to sacrifice thousands of people, just to make sure the sun would keep rising the next day. In hindsight, that was rather silly of them, wasn't it.

TavariousChinaSmith December 14, 2012 at 6:19 pm

You make a good point. As long as we keep allowing crazy people to mould our policies, our policies will keep being crazy.

woolmyn December 14, 2012 at 7:17 pm

On a thread on another site someone wrote that we should wait an "appropriate" amount of time before discussing gun control after a tragedy such as this. That we'd be exploiting the deaths of these children. I replied that there's a lot less time between these tragedies lately and that there's no time like the present. And that a more "appropriate" term would be "the murder" of these children.

SuspectedDemocrat December 14, 2012 at 4:23 pm

I may have to repost this. In the meantime, infinite upfists.

SheriffRoscoe December 14, 2012 at 4:27 pm

I am sick of the reasoning I hear from my own batshit crazy friends, regarding the second amendment, and the imminent takeover of the government by a dictator. It's just foolish. Enough already.

woolmyn December 14, 2012 at 7:12 pm

I hear ya, I live in TX and all my ex's friends were like that. Part of why he was my ex.

Queer4Christ December 15, 2012 at 1:19 pm

I hate to burst their bubbles, but I would ask your paranoid, gun-toting friends to show their blueprint for victory over a tyrannical government that possesses hydrogen fusion bombs that can level a city the size of New York in the blink of an eye.

Biel_ze_Bubba December 15, 2012 at 2:24 pm

Not to mention tanks, artillery, and an air force that obliterated the fourth-largest military on the planet in less than a week. Oh, and Predator drones, for mopping up the scattered survivors.

These dumbfuck Rambo wannabes would ride around like the Taliban for a couple of days, until their Hummers ran out of gas, and that would be that.

Botlrokit December 14, 2012 at 4:26 pm

Bryan Fischer is shoving his god around, now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is2x7QTZ8AI

Your god better not come near the crime scene, asshole. Hope they arrest his incorporeal ass for being an accessory to murder.

JustPixelz December 15, 2012 at 10:42 am

Right wingers always blame the First Amendment.

Also, just to say it, by Fischer's reasoning no crime should ever occur in a church. That's good news for four black girls murdered in a Birmingham church in 1963.

Also, I'm sure Fischer wants to ban abortion but would not lift a finger to protect the already-born from guns or — by his reckoning — an all-powerful God's decision to do nothing while bullets tear through their bodies at the speed of sound.

sundaytrucker December 14, 2012 at 4:29 pm

The problem with our society is we treat guns as something that is perfectly acceptable. Most people don't talk about their porn collections in public, but gun owners feel no shame in bragging about their latest purchase or dream gun. Clearly our politicians lack the spine to regulate guns, perhaps public shaming is our best/only option.

Lot_49 December 14, 2012 at 4:45 pm

Now wait a minute. You can take away my guns (or could if I had any) but my porn…that's protected by the First Amendment.

redarmyzombie December 14, 2012 at 4:45 pm

You know, the next time someone want's to talk with me about their gun collection, I'm going to take that as license to talk about donkey porn.

Allmighty_Manos December 14, 2012 at 4:30 pm

Guns don't kill people – people kill people. Certain guns however make it easier for mentally unstable individuals to kill lots of innocent people in a short period of time. I guess that is the price of freedom.

An Asexual Ungulate December 14, 2012 at 4:47 pm

People kill people in all sorts of ways, one of which is _with guns_. It's not the gun acting alone that killed a person, but it's still the gun that spat death at them. Trying to separate out the two is facile and pisses me off every time I see it because it attempts to subtly imply that guns are not in fact deadly weapons and they're just fine and dandy and we should move along because there's nothing to see here (and no reason to regulate anything).

BigSkullF*ckingDog December 14, 2012 at 4:35 pm

I took today off to hang with my 3 year old niece. She just got annoyed at me for hugging her too hard. Off to watch some scooby doo. No snark. No anything.

redarmyzombie December 14, 2012 at 4:40 pm

Maybe this is just wishful thinking on my part, but something's gotta be done after this. Its just gotta.

fawkedifiknow December 14, 2012 at 4:41 pm

I hope to hell I never see any pictures of those kids when they weren't just more collateral damage to the NRA shithead/asshole gun fetish, because just the thought of what happened is enough to make me want to give up on humanity.

fuflans December 14, 2012 at 4:44 pm

alright, i just donated some of my unemployment insurance to the brady center, i'm making that 'nra: making it possible to kill 20 children the week before christmas' bumper sticker and now i'm going to go find some timely eddie izzard.

iburl December 14, 2012 at 4:55 pm

A gun is the devil's right hand. A drone is the devil's dick.

Jerri December 14, 2012 at 5:03 pm

What is it about women, children, and people in settings that render them extra defenseless (movie theater, malls, college) that is so threatening to these brave white guys?

Fucking learn to cope*. The rest of us (more or less) have.

*(Or you know, live in a place where we have actual help for people in emotional/mental distress and sensible gun laws but you know, FREEDOMS.) Ugh. So sad and angry right now.

Tangled sin tax December 14, 2012 at 5:04 pm

A few days ago my 7 year old granddaughter said goodbye to me when she was on her way to school. Then she said "I won't be coming back". My heart literally stopped. Turns out she was telling me her mom and dad were going to pick her up at school and go straight to the in-laws. I still felt shaky the whole day, and again now.

voodooeconomics December 14, 2012 at 5:08 pm

How long could Fox News ignore the words "meaningful actions" without getting a red neck from Mississippi to spout shit like "guns don't kill, people kill" or even Rand Paul the idiot from Kentucky. It won't be long before Fox latch on those words.

voodooeconomics December 14, 2012 at 5:10 pm

soon the NRA resolution to solve the immediate danger to 5 year old..arm the teachers. More guns is the solution. deranged people access to guns is the problem.

shelwood46 December 14, 2012 at 5:35 pm

My favorite conservative tweet so far: this tragedy would have been prevented if there were no public schools. (Obviously, a shooter would never dare enter a private school.)

Butch_Wagstaff December 14, 2012 at 5:42 pm

That tweet has at least two different levels of stupid.

CivicHoliday December 14, 2012 at 5:27 pm

Jesus fucking christ. I have two small sweet perfect innocent children at home. They trust the world and assume it is kind and loving just like their parents are. I am picturing the terror and confusion they would each feel if something dark and horrific entered their lives. Then god forbid ended their lives. I just can't…can't find any words for this.

Cheburashka64 December 14, 2012 at 5:33 pm

There are a lot of opinions on what exactly "Well-Regulated Militia" means in the 2nd amendment, but I'm pretty damn sure this isn't it.

Butch_Wagstaff December 14, 2012 at 5:48 pm

Back then, militias were pretty well-regulated. The modern militias that popped in that last 20 years? Not so much. What with the internal descent, infighting with a good dollop of crazy.
Apparently now, a militia can just be one guy carrying weapons so powerful they couldn't even be imagined by the Founding Daddies.

Chi_town_Vinny December 14, 2012 at 5:36 pm

And the U.S. Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals ruled this week that Illinois' ban on carrying a weapon in public is unconstitutional. Another thing we don't need in a society that's gone freaking gun nutty.

HistoriCat December 14, 2012 at 5:50 pm

Oh and fuck Mike Huckabee too.

Butch_Wagstaff December 14, 2012 at 6:52 pm

FFS.

bobbert December 15, 2012 at 4:08 am

With a .45 cal dildo.

Butch_Wagstaff December 14, 2012 at 5:55 pm

I posted this comment on someone's blog. It sums up how I feel:
I had insomnia last night so I was up pretty late but I got some work done. Went to bed finally, got up in the afternoon, turned on NPR and when I didn't immediately hear the scheduled program, I thought "probably another mass shootings" even before I even heard what had happened. Then I heard the horrific details. I don't have kids but I thought about the children on our block such as Ellie who, after I showed her my move-the-compass's-needle-without-touching-the-compass trick and how I did it, is now all about how magnets work and has taken such a keen interest in science. I thought about the children and grand children of friends and family members, most who are still in elementary school…

Now, I just feel anger. I'm angry that such powerful weapons can be so easily purchased. I'm angry at the NRA for their lies that have contributed to 300 million guns in this country.

There have been 15 mass shootings this year alone.

I'm pissed.

This is not a political issue. This is not about taking anyone's right to own guns away. It's always been a damned public safety issue. Period.

And don't try to tell me that the solution is more fuckin' guns.

Sorry, but I'm really pissed right now.

EDIT: Written in the heat of the moment. "This is not about taking anyone's right to own guns away." should read "This is not about taking away anyone's right to own guns unless they are batshit crazy."
I think the biggest problem is easy availability. That's the fucking thing we need to address.

woolmyn December 14, 2012 at 7:04 pm

Even the UNION teachers?

lulzmonger December 14, 2012 at 10:29 pm

STATUS = Currently seeking Species Reassignment … AGAIN.
Hey, you never know … 37,509th time's the charm, amirite?

Wish me luck!

gullywompr December 14, 2012 at 11:00 pm

My evening commute through DC takes me to a stoplight on Independence Ave., where you get a nice view of the South Portico of the White House. As I looked at it waiting for the light to change, I thought of the Pres and his family in that house, and what he said today, specifically "We've been through this too many times", "We're going to have to come together to take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the politics".

Damn, yet another promise to keep. He's got the economy, global warming, foreign war, and now he promises to take on gun control? With the wingnuts still in control of the House? How's he gonna do it?

Then the light changed, and I drove on. My only thought then was to wish him well, and to try to feel encouraged by his ability accomplish most of what he promises. Good luck, Bamz, hope you can do it, buddy.

ttommyunger December 14, 2012 at 11:16 pm

Words fail.

redarmyzombie December 14, 2012 at 4:29 pm

I figured they would. It just boggles me how indecent those people are.

imissopus December 14, 2012 at 8:04 pm

This one time, at band camp…

Designer_Rants December 14, 2012 at 9:59 pm

Here's 'anywhere else":

To get a gun in Japan, first, you have to attend an all-day class and pass a written test, which are held only once per month. You also must take and pass a shooting range class. Then, head over to a hospital for a mental test and drug test (Japan is unusual in that potential gun owners must affirmatively prove their mental fitness), which you'll file with the police. Finally, pass a rigorous background check for any criminal record or association with criminal or extremist groups, and you will be the proud new owner of your shotgun or air rifle. Just don't forget to provide police with documentation on the specific location of the gun in your home, as well as the ammo, both of which must be locked and stored separately. And remember to have the police inspect the gun once per year and to re-take the class and exam every three years.

http://goo.gl/zVL02

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