Remember that awesome video of stereotypical union thug cold wailing on stereotypical Fox News douche Steven Crowder at the Michigan anti-“Right to Work” rally this week? Of course you do, it’s embedded above. Probably you watched it and were like: “I shouldn’t be laughing at this because I’m a hippy Wonketteer librul who knows violence solves nothing, but DAMN! Dude dropped Crowder like Tyson dropped Spinks.”

Well, you no longer have to feel conflicted about enjoying this video because it turns out that Crowder totally started it! You, like everyone, doubtless noticed the weird edit point where the little guy seemed to be getting up off the ground, but without raw vid declined to assert that as the case but rather just speculated a bunch. Naturally, as always, your speculation was right! He said as much to some Canadian teevee station that’s like Fox News but with more Anne Murray because of CanCon.

“I’ve been very honest about this, the fact that as they started ransacking the tent, yeah, me and some men went out there … and we didn’t get violent with them but we did try to push them off the tent. That is true. We tried to push them off the tent.”

Good rule of thumb: When you shove an angry guy, he’s going to take a swing or six at you. Haha, Steven Crowder fights like a girl a sniveling weasel of an unspecified gender.


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  • HogeyeGrex

    me and some men

    'nuff said

  • SorosBot

    Wait, Fox lied? But they're a news organization, that's unpossible!

    • Baconzgood

      I know dude. My faith in the right wing noise maker has been shaken.

    • Hate to break to you, but also the people who work for them aren't real journalists, and there is no Sanity Clause.

    • MissTaken

      Now I haz a sad.

      • Baconzgood

        How you kids doin? I hope you're making bacon sandwiches for him when he watches football and he rubs your feet when you watch Lifetime.

        I'm cheering for you two.

        • SorosBot

          But I don't watch football! And aw, thanks; I'll say thanks for MissTaken too since she's on a plane heading back home from a business trip at the moment and won't see this.

          • She must have gotten home. SB is awful quiet all on a sudden.

          • glasspusher

            You don't watch football? Hawt.

    • But the war on Christmas is still real and not just a way to get people to watch after the election, right?

    • sullivanst

      The Florida Second District Court of Appeals begs to differ.

    • Negropolis


  • Baconzgood

    If this man had a gun Steve wouldn't have pushed him.

    Just sayin'

    • BadKitty904

      If that man had a gun, Steve wouldn't have gotten punched.

      • Negropolis

        I feel bad for evily laughing at that.

    • Let's face it, Crowder made some bad choices when he chose to assault and old man first and then got punched by him after throwing him to the ground.

    • Will_Panic

      If that man had a gun, and Michigan had a "stand your ground" law, Steve would've been "voted out of office."

      • Negropolis

        Michigan does, in fact, have a "stand your ground" law. :(

    • Say Bacon, do you ever shop at Archie McPhee's? They really have you covered.

      • Ha! They KNOW Baconz GOOD!

        • WLBH!!!! Hi Baby!

          • Hey, sweetpea! (Hugs and hugs you repeatedly)

            Man we are having floods and mudslides and god knows WUT-awl down heah. Feel like I should invest in a small boat or sump'n. Kiss Sky's head?

          • Oh, I kiss his little head all day. There's nothing like almost losing something precious to make you grateful for what you have. Floods and mudslides?! Yikes! Be careful Z. You can always come visit me here if you like. How are your kitties? Still keeping you up?

          • (Hugs you) Thank you, sweetie.

            Kittehs are freezing their poor little asses off and we just paid a ton of Ameros to find out there is NOTHING wrong with fucking Gustav, not that you'd know it from his daily re-enactments of The Dying Cat Ballet at 2 and 4 am respectively. Fucker. But there ya go. Wut can you do but (mostly) love the little fuckers?

            Wutchu doin' for Xmas, or is it too rude to ask? You can tell me in private if you don't want our resident troll peeking.

          • Dying Cat Ballet ftw.

          • Resident troll? You mean the new McTroll? (See McDonald's thread.)I am getting together with a friend on Xmass eve, and then maybe going to my Mom's church to hear some good classical. Makes me feel close to her. Christmas day I hang out with my AA friends.Z, on Wednesday I will be a college graduate! Wut?!

          • Oh, is the bastard back in a different incarnation? Thanks for the tip (just the tip, ma'am).

            I hug you very warmly and sincerely, sweetie. Sounds like a great way to spend the eve and day.

            Aw, Baby, that is so terrific! We must celebrate! So proud of you! Major kudos to you, BabyGirl! You did it! (Hugs you with extra hugs)

  • BadKitty904

    "Ransacking"? Seriously?

    • OneYieldRegular

      To be fair, his editor had already crossed out "pillaging," "plundering," and "marauding."

      • bibliotequetress

        Isn't knocking over a tent "sack sacking?"

    • Coulda been worse. Coulda been "man-sacking."

      • BadKitty904

        THERE you are!!! Yay!

        We've been worried about you. I was afraid your cats had eaten you or something.

        • Hey, sweetie! Who loves ya?

          Been busy with a new project. So much to do, so little time to have fun, goddammit. (Hugs you with many hugs of fierce Xmassy love and shit) (Well, OK, not the shit part)

          • BadKitty904

            Well, good. Sounds like you're keeping busy and out of mischief. Joshing aside, I was afraid that misery in your back had been acting up.

            And best compliments of the season to you and yours! And *MANY* of them! :0)

          • Nope, looks like the back is at 95% and still improving. Turns out if you can't get up from the floor without one or more body parts (other than feet/legs) touching, you have maybe 6 years to live, so We Haz Been Incentivized, as the corporatocracy likes to say, to get off our lazy asses and fuckin' exercise.

            You are CHO CHWEET! (kisses your furry head) Kiss your sweetie for me with many hugs and squeezes, and enjoy your Christmas!

          • BadKitty904


          • glasspusher

            Hey, a shout out from me, too. Good to hear, my friend! Do not go gentle, etc..

          • Aww, thanks, buddy, that is SO sweet! (Hugs you) Many holiday hugs to Mrs. Glasspusher and the little Glasspushers!

  • second_gen

    There's a part in one of his heavily edited videos where he grabs a female and tells her "Come inside!" Then, he proceeds to run outside and scream: "There are WOMMINS in here!"


  • BadKitty904

    You'd think, after years of nothing but practice, Fox would be better at lying.

    • But look at their base's trinity of core beliefs:
      1. The earth is 6,000 years old.
      2. Jebus rode on dinosaurs with Alley Oop.
      3. Fox News is the word of God

  • One_who_wanders

    Ransacking. Look it up FOCHEAD.

    • BadKitty904

      Honestly. He makes it sound like the Vandals plundering Imperial Rome…

  • gullywompr

    And the Peabody goes to…

  • Schmannnity

    Koch Bros. protecting Murikuns from Da Goons.

  • Do you know who else started a fight by faking aggression of the other side?

    • SorosBot

      Pres. James K. Polk & Gen. Zachary Taylor?

    • gullywompr

      Senator Palpatine?

      • Negropolis

        Star Wars Clone Wars nerd WIN.

        Begun, the Koch Wars have.

        • Lascauxcaveman

          Where ya been? They has begun in the run up to the 2000 general election.

    • LBJ?

    • Lot_49

      LBJ and North Vietnam? Chimpy and Iraq? GWB and Panama? Reagan and Grenada?

      Well really all of them, Charlie. Except maybe Jimmy Carter.

    • TheGyrus

      William McKinley?

      • commiegirl99

        Remember … shit, what we were supposed to remember?

        • Negropolis

          Remember the Maine! And it's delicious lawbstahs!

          • glasspusher

            Lobster used to be a trash catch. I'll eat lobster if I'm served it, but I'll never order it. Crab, on the other hand…mmmm…

          • gullywompr

            I don't care about it anymore either. But raw oysters – all night long, baby…

          • glasspusher

            I'll do oysters with you! Dee-lish.

        • Lascauxcaveman

          ''You provide the pictures, and I'll provide the, uhm … money? Was it the money? No, that's not it. Maybe a boat or something? I'm pretty sure there was a boat. And some Mexicans, possibly?"

        • bikerlaureate

          That car rental company.

    • BadKitty904

      Truman Capote?

    • HogeyeGrex

      George Bush?

      Either of them?

    • George Zimmerman?

    • Baconzgood


    • SorosBot

      Julius Caesar?

    • CrunchyKnee


    • RadioBitchFace

      The Japs?

    • LibertyLover

      Harrison Ford?

    • snowpointsecret

      The South?

      • BadKitty904


      • Negropolis

        Fort Sumter libel!

        • snowpointsecret

          Hey, I almost got struck by lightning there once, the South is clearly aggressive.

    • glamourdammerung

      Compassionate conservative Adolf Hitler?

      But in fairness, he just wanted to bust unions and put Christianity back in the public square.

    • ProgressiveInga

      Chris Brown?

    • shelwood46

      Everyone's siblings?

      • HogeyeGrex

        I'm not touching you…

      • Roger_of_Arabia

        Why are you hitting yourself? Stop hitting yourself.

    • pac

      Charlie McCarthy?

      • StillGoinGreen

        Jenny McCarthy?

        (Why is she on my mind today? Is she next?)

    • I know, I know! I KNOW this one!

    • StillGoinGreen

      I'm thinking Jesus… or THE U S OF MUTHAFUCKIN AAAYY!! Back when our leaders either owned black women, or had many babies with the black women they owned. Not now, when they just "swift boat" them – before our President can even decide that he liked someone else better all along!

      No, I'm going with Jesus.

    • Spider-Jerk

      Pretty much every awful little kid ever?

    • Roger_of_Arabia

      George W. Bush?

    • Roger_of_Arabia

      The Jews. Twice

  • I would think the Kock brothers could at least afford a shack or a lean-to instead of a tent for their punch-sponges, but who am I to tell them what to do? They are the scheming, democracy-loathing plutocrats, not me.

  • mavenmaven

    "and taunted me"
    Now go away or we shall taunt you a second time!

    • ProgressiveInga

      We'll taunt in your general direction!

      • Lascauxcaveman

        "Your mother was a hamster…"

  • Antispandex

    I knew, or sort of had a feeling, there was more to it. Today's liberal is more of a "drop your shit and run for it" sort of a person, than a "by any means necessary" type. All of that union vilolence stuff went out in the 30's. Oh, sure, there was a little in the 60's, but it was very unpopular!

    • BadKitty904
    • Tundra Grifter

      Look up the massacre of strriking miners in Ludlow, Colorado. Or the police shooting of them on the San Francisco waterfront in the 1930's. The set-up of Joe Hill. Or…sorry, it's a long and sad roster once you get started.

      • Yeah. Our side mostly gets shot, beaten, trampled, and deaded. Their side gets to pay a slightly higher tax rate for a couple years.

      • commiegirl99

        My mama's friend Terri Grando, whom I knew when I was a little girl, was a little girl herself running down the gulch from the bullets of the National Guard in Ludlow. She was the president of the Thousand Oaks Democratic Club until my mom relieved her. She was fabulous.


    • Negropolis

      I take it you haven't been to Michigan, lately? LOL! The left here ain't afraid to cut a bitch. When the Nazis came to town in 2006, they were literally run out of town. In fact, I got caught up in it as a spectator. One of them couldn't find his way back to their convoy, got lost in the streets of downtown Lansing, was chased down and roughed up a bit before horseback officers tear gased the crowd. The crowd thn reformed, march a mile through the eastside to the diversity rally the mayor had thrown to keep people away from the protest, and demanded to be let in. lol They were then turned away and headed back to the capitol to stage a counter-protest and were met by horses crossing the Michigan Avenue Bridge back into downtown. Tear gassed again, and having lost numerous members to arrest, they <if>finally stopped. lol

      I hate to admit it, but the left in our state still retains a violent element. Not like the Hoffa days, but enough that this didn't exactly surprise me when I heard about it. It's what happens when you've been neglected and beaten down for decades.

      Some pics from the Nazi rally some years back:



      and Here

      Michigan liberals don't run…they make other people run.

      • HistoriCat

        Michigan liberals don't run

        But we need them to run – WITH VOTES (for office).

  • BornInATrailer

    In the unedited footage, did Crowder's strand of pearls get torn off and the pearls bounce around on the ground outside the tent? Because that is what I envision.

    • HogeyeGrex

      I was going to say that Crowder's pearl neclace doesn't come off without a towel, but that would be unkind.

  • I'm sure Steven Crowder was happy with letting the market decide how he should be treated.

  • As a citizen of US Amercia's hat, Canada City, I would also like to point out that I've never heard of this Steven Crowder guy. And you're welcome to keep him.

    • He's a "comedian". The way a hemmorhoid tickles.

    • Lot_49

      Speaking for the entire United States of America, I can say we do like Neil Young and Leonard Cohen and Joni Mitchell and those Guess Who guys.

      • BadKitty904


        • Lot_49

          We're not too crazy about Celine Dion, though. SorosBot is probably thinking the same thing.

          • Lascauxcaveman

            And we have to put an asterisk* on Burton Cummings, even though he was a Guess Who and also has a comical name, too.

      • SorosBot

        But Canadia can take back Celine Dion and Justin Bieber, please.

        • No.

          • Hey. We took Shatner for you all.

          • Lascauxcaveman

            And Lorne Greene. We took them happily.

        • Barrelhse

          Alan Thicke?

          • Lascauxcaveman

            He was pretty funny in the J-Pod show that used to be on Canada City teevee.

        • BadKitty904

          What, exactly, *IS* Justin Bieber, anyways?

      • Don't forget Rush–The Thinking Man's Metal.

        • bobbert

          Okay, I'll open myself up to some abuse here — I liked Rush.

          Polyrythmic, bass-led, reasonably tuneful. What's not to like? I ignored the lyrics, because they were unintelligible. It's only in later years that I've learned that they were apparently loons.

          Fuck it. I liked System of a Down, too.

    • Barrelhse

      Oh, my! I thought Canada was a town!

    • I thought that was *Medicine* Hat, dood.

    • mannacler

      If Canada is America's hat what is Florida?

      • billy_reuben

        America's colostomy bag

        • Dudleydidwrong

          Win, but I think that Texas shares that medical honor.

    • Negropolis

      I've never heard of him either, and apparently, he was born in Detroit around the time I was.

    • PuckStopsHere

      I'm a fan of the Five Man Electrical Band, if it helps. The Toronto Maple Leafs, not so much. Oh, and I have actually broadcasted hockey games from both the Winnipeg Arena and Quebec's Le Colisee. True story.

  • FOX News has spent most of the last two days wondering why the rest of the media didn't cover this. Maybe it is because the rest of the media has learned that you can't trust a video from a contributor to Brietbart?

    • BadKitty904

      I suspect that the rest of the media, along with most true Americans, was disappointed that Chowdah didn't have quite ALL the shit beaten outta 'im…

  • christianmuslin

    I haven't been paying attention, did FAUX find Hofa's body?

    • RadioBitchFace

      It'll be on The Geraldo Rivera Special Report.

  • In this cornah, weighing 105, Steve "Klan" Crowdah! Crowdah!

  • edgydrifter


    • So Tired

      "-ghazi" is the new "-gate".

    • Lascauxcaveman

      Really, where was Susan Rice cowering when this atrocity went down?

      She doesn't deserve to wipe Hillary Clinton's ass.

      – Jamma Cain

  • So, in Obama's America, it is not cool to throw an old man to the ground, and then edit the video to just the point where he punches you back?

    I don't even know this country any more.

  • Slim_Pickins

    I still think that it was all part of a Koch Brothers Traveling Kabuki Theater show.

    • HogeyeGrex

      Is that the one where Victoria Jackson is a brilliant satirical performance artist?

      • Slim_Pickins

        yes, but it ws her day off.

    • HarryButtle

      Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends…

  • Fox pundits are also claiming that this reenergized Mitten's campaign and he's now a shoo in to win last Nov. 6.

  • One_who_wanders

    Someone said this before but there aren't enough fists in America for his face, we'd have to import some.

    With votes, of course

  • kakotechnia

    Something tells me this isn't the only arena in which Msr. Crowder has trouble finishing what he started.

  • coolhandnuke

    This is what happens when the circus comes to town…tent goes up, tent goes down., you can't explain it.

    • Baconzgood

      How come their tent was torn down and OWS hippies didn't have…oh wait.

      • coolhandnuke

        As reported by Fox, it was all them filthy trustafarians and their rapings, crimings and drum beatings that brought down their house of tents. Benghazi also, too.

  • Baconzgood

    Right now Pat Robertson is thinking "I don't know why but I blame all of this on Gays wanting to get married…."

  • Not_Mother

    So after bigtime establishment conservatives like David Frum and Bruce Bartlett whistle-blow on the conservative media complex, led by the fox gang, for lying and profiteering off their echo-chamber flock, this is their big attempt to rehabilitate themselves? Fail.

  • mormos

    meh, I had kind of assumed it was a staged stunt to make unions look bad. Yes I am that paranoid. This makes more sense though.

    • Well, yes, that too. The tent was put up right in the middle of the union protest to be intentionally provocative. They KNEW it would be assaulted in some way and FOX would have an excuse to call union members "thugs" for another fifty years.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        I was wondering why the tent had nothing under it.

  • Doktor Zoom

    None of this proves whether anyone called John Lewis the n-word. Have the investigative reporters asked the Detroit police about that?

    • Indiepalin

      Trump and his pack of gumshoes are looking into it, specifically Scoobs and Shaggy

  • LibertyLover

    OK, I have to ask… the Koch brothers are filthy rich and all they can afford is a lousy tent for their operatives to operate out of? Sniveling little cheapskates.

    • coolhandnuke

      As the Lords of many a mansion, compound and estate, the Koch's journalistic apparatchik is known as the Fourth Tax Shelter.

    • glasspusher

      They don't stay rich by writing big checks!

    • You can bet your mother the Koch employees had luxury rooms and a hospitality suite set up for themselves in the Lexington Lansing. That tent was one step above an O'Keefe stunt.

    • walterhwhite

      They are super-cheap. The doorman at their residence on Park Ave said he has to load a lot of suitcases into their vehicles for their weekend trips to the Hamptons and they never tip him. At Christmas, they give him the going rate: $50. The Koch Bros are loathsome.

  • Baconzgood

    Mnnnnnn let's just look at this in a paralax way. If you put up a big tent dedicated to crushing labor rights in the midst of a union protest wouldn't that provoke a hostile response? Sorta like using kerosene to put out a campfire.

    If anyone that isn't completely brain washed by fox doesn't see that…

    Baconz problem is that I think the unions should go back to their roots. Car bombings, armed riots, shooting H. C. Frick in the neck. All with votes of course.

    • Of course.

      Sharpen your votes, men!

    • Negropolis

      When I'd heard last week that Americans for Prosperity had reserved the east lawn for their tent (the main lawn, the lawn behind the capitol is – because it's Michigan, of course – a parking lot for state legislators), I KNEW there would be trouble. Hell, they'd reserved the capitol steps, last week, and got their banner torn down. They knew this was going to happen.

  • HarryButtle

    How does one "push" someone nonviolently?

    • glasspusher

      Well, it all depends on where you're pushin'…

  • OneYieldRegular

    I've a feeling this about as close as Republicans are ever going to get to having a big tent.

  • Being bitch-slapped by "union goons" is the funniest thing "comedian" Steven Crowder will ever do.

  • Tundra Grifter

    Today we are all Kenneth Gladney.


  • cybermoe

    meh, breitbart is still dead.

    • PuckStopsHere

      And I, for one, remain happy to hear it.

  • Baconzgood

    Unrelated to this post

    I've had ads that say "from the web" on my wonkette, one is about dinosaurs and aliens (pretty cool) concept) another one has a poor man's "The Great George" Carlins coughing. And the third is a guy that is the spitting image of Baconz Ex-father in law with the same expression on his face that when I asked for Mrs. Ex-Baconz hand. Please (if you can) take off the Baconz Ex-father in law pic down and put up Latino Chilly Pepper Girl again. If this is caused my my "personal searches" let me know so I can search different porn sites on my phone.

    • Biff

      I'll trade you my kardashians for your coughing Carlin…

      • not that Dewey

        Go fish.

    • bobbert

      Baconz, I think you need a better blocking add-on. I don't get any of that shit.

  • snowpointsecret

    You know your political movement is hopeless when you have to fake tent attacks to make the other side look somewhat bad.

    • BadKitty904

      If you have sense (and even a nodding acquaintance with Reality), you know that. But this is Fox…

  • TootsStansbury

    The right side of the political spectrum is a giant, lying, violence provoking asshole? Go figure.

  • LibrarianX

    sniveling weasel libel

  • BlueStateLibel

    Libruls are all "violence is wrong" until they start picking up pitchforks or storming palaces. Still love that guy giving it to Chowder.

  • TootsStansbury

    You know, bullies won't stop bullying until they receive a punch in the face. Or so I've heard.

  • GASP! How dare you pretend those Union Thugs aren't Union Thugs! Extracting glee from the punching of innocent Breitbartians… that's like saying it's a bad thing when job creators thoughtfully relieve workers of the burden of their pensions! You Marxist rabble!

    • TootsStansbury

      I wonder what it's going to take to reach a tipping point in this woefully under-informed country. And when it is reached, I hope it's not too horrifying.

      • Creating an activist often requires only two or three things:

        1) Some information
        2) An invitation

        and sometimes

        3) A babysitter

  • TootsStansbury

    OT but poor Mr. Stansbury, his innocence has been shattered. He stumbled into the fever swamps that are WND comments. He couldn't believe it. At least he knows now why I tend to rant on occasion.

  • Anybody see if there was a permit for that tent? Might have just been security for all we know

    • I don't think wingnuts need permits in a state run by Rickie Dale Snyder. Negropolis says the mayor of Lansing is a Dem, but I still wouldn't fine the Kochs. They're liable to buy the town.

    • Negropolis

      They did have a permit.

      BTW, since it's the capitol, permits are handled through a state agency, not the city of Lansing. Go search Youtube for Virg Bernero if you want to see the mayor in action. It's too bad he ran for governor in 2010 instead of waiting until 2014, because he got a raw deal.

  • LibertyLover

    Steve Crowder seems so tent-ative in his reporting, doesn't he?

    *ducks behind a chair*

  • Benny

    Sun News…I can't believe we have a Fox News wannabe up here.They don't even have the comedic value,goddamn it.

  • bibliotequetress

    Anyone else here fell like the union guys showed a lot of restraint considering that, after all, this was Steve Crowder and that was the Koch Brothers tent? Little Stevie should be glad he's not wearing that tent as his burial shroud.

    • Mojopo

      They usually punch (with votes) these days.

      • bibliotequetress

        I think I meant they showed more restraint than I could have. I happily would have done worse to Crowder although I'd have had my share of lib guilt after. Granted, I'm a proud union member, but as a short bespeckled librarian union member, I just don't have that gritty macho oomph that so many of my brethren do.

        • Mojopo

          One of my dear pals is a Holy Librarian and she could drop that turd like she power chugged a case of Activia. Or at least gives the impression that it's possible, as needed. We'll figure out how to make them fear you. I'm on your side.

    • Maybe wrapped in the tent, back-hauled to Detroit, and tossed off the Ambassador Bridge with votes!

  • Dood, it's "whaling on," and I don't care WHUT the UD sez.

    • BadKitty904

      Down Here, we stick with the good, ol'-fashioned "whupped"…

      • True story: when I first came to this country, I had a LOT of cash in my wallet. Going through customs, I was stopped by a nice man who looked in it, looked at me, counted the cash, and said, "Whatchu carryin' all that money around for? Don't you know you're liable to get whupped upside the haid?"

        I had to ask for a translation.

        • BadKitty904

          SEE?!? "Whupped," as approved by the United States Bureau of Customs and Border Protection…

          I didn't know you're an immigrant. How cool is that? My honeybun is native-born, like me, but his folks and grandfolks are immigrants, too. Anyways, welcome – we're glad you're here! And thank you for coming! :0)

          • Yeah, that's me, a furrnurr born & bred. Imagine my surprise when a friend's mother gave me a book on "Furr'n Cuisine" as seen in Texas. Spaghetti and meatballs. Spaetzle. Beef bourguignon. In her defense, the book WUZ from the '50s.

            Thanks, sweetie. You're my best bud. (Hugs you) And I just *love* it when someone thanks me for coming! Just LOVE it.

    • bobbert

      I hate to get into a syntax argument, Weedlord, but it's "wailing on". Or at least it has been since I was in elementary school in whateveritwas BC.

      • Good, so don't argue. I can use bad grammar and even bad language, but that's as a matter of play. When it comes to antiquated words, and the like, I will not accept any other authority without an actual citation. I looked it up, sweetie. It's always been "whaling," if you're talking about BEATING someone. "Wailing" on someone is simply corrupt usage from the original. Thanks, I'll have my prize now.

  • i would like to think that the grossness of the MI legislature will be a salutary lesson for the middle class white folk who voted for republicans b/c they believe republican bullshit and, you know, kenyan in the white house.

    but it probably won't.

  • Negropolis

    God bless Michigan. The sniveling little bastards from Americans for Prosperity held a new conference in front of the capitol, today, wanting our Democratic mayor here in Lansing – Virg "Angriest Mayor in Americas" Bernro – investigate all the supposed violence against them. Go to hell, you scabs.

    BTW, I'm hearing the Punchy Guy was actually an anarchist from Occupy, not that it really matters either way.

  • Negropolis

    BTW, soemthing weird happened here, today, the crazy-ass legislature voted down an NRA-backed law that would have done away with our gun registry by a health margin, though, they replaced it with a bill that would allow guns to be carried in more places.

    This state has gone completely off its axis.

    • PuckStopsHere

      At least they had the good, common sense to give Illitch his 600 mill in DDA money that was to have gone to Det schools (like they need the money amiright) to build his hockey rink.

      • Negropolis

        Yeah, talked about fucked up priorities.

  • carlgt1

    Apparently everyone on the right is James O'Keefe now…..

  • Negropolis

    Truly, Michigan is No Country for Young Men, Friendo, and There Will Be Blood. Now, where is Mr. Crowder's milkshake…?

  • Barrelhse

    OT- Bieber as a soprano?

    • That was a weird story, no? Am I correct in assuming the mastermind from the New Mexico prison was there because there are no maximum-security prisons in Vermont, where he did his heinous murder? It's great to think we might have a state that doesn't need one of those things.

  • gullywompr

    OT – is Wonkville no longer a thing? Can't find the linky…

    • chascates

      Wonkville is definitely a thing.

      • not that Dewey

        It's a thing, but it never quite recovered from the Reservering. Photos still don't display alongside stories (with one exception — the two week old stories that appear under "hottest" when you follow that there link), and all submissions are met with an error message. Sometimes this is a legitimate error message, sometimes not. This is why several duplicate submissions appear in a row occasionally. Best strategy is to wait 10 minutes after submitting, and confirm that it went through or not, before resubmitting. One can still access "hot" stories through the "hot" tab, next to the "new" tab, but those default stories are the ones that were there the day the server migration took place.

        • chascates

          I emailed the programmers and they "are aware of the issue and are working on a solution . . . maybe next week". The mobile version of Wonkette is no longer around and my Blackberry shows a version I would have to remove my contacts to read, even at maximum magnification.

          Maybe when we fall off/run into the fiscal cliff these and other issues will be resolved.

          • not that Dewey

            I can't wait to see what wonders await us at the bottom of that cliff. It'll be like Xanadu times Shangri La plus Alice in Wonderland plus Trainspotting.

            The glitchy stuff takes some, but not all, of the fun out of it. The stories definitely suffer without pictures; those add tremendously to the inherent comedic value in peoples' stories. I trust that our programmers, like our Representatives in Government, have our best interests at heart.

  • Stevola

    It really is irresponsible not to speculate

  • Blueb4sinrise

    More good news for John McCain ; Mammoths.

    Senate under pressure to release mammoth report on CIA interrogation

    • carlgt1

      so Repugs want the CIA to release everything about Benghazi, but 6000-pages of our torture in the Bush wars they want to keep hushed up (still)…..

  • Negropolis

    OT: But, look at all this crazy shit that passed the Michigan legislature literally either last night or early this morning. Healines from the Lansing State Journal:

    Personal property tax reform bound for Snyder's desk

    Bill allowing guns to be carried in more places headed to Gov.

    Citizenship declaration back on ballots under bill

    Abortion bill passes, Snyder expected to sign

    Michigan bill a step toward allowing wolf hunts

    New Emergency Manager law headed to Snyder's desk

    Again, this is just last night and this morning. This can not be legal passing these bills like this. Good lord. In a single week the Republicans have turned this place completely upside down. I can't ever remember this happening anywhere else. It's a Blitz. I'm truly dumbfounded. Snyder can't be allowed to get away with this. I'd even go so far as Justice being brought here to investigate possible conspiracy and bribery.

    • chascates

      And to protect themselves:
      Big changes to recall process after right-to-work vote enrage Michigan Democrats

      You'd think a 'free bread and circuses' act would be part of the trend but that would obviously cost money that the job creators would be unwilling to part with.

      • Negropolis

        Seriously, they did this when they did because they know if they'd done this before the election they'd have lost and maybe there would have even been riots. The general populace during the holiday season has absolutely no idea what's going on. That we got over 12,000 people organized to come down to Lansing on a freezing cold December morn is nothing short of amazing. Had this happened during the summer or fall, this thing would have gotten bloody.

        But, believe you me, they can try to avoid retribution, but we'll be out on the streets come July the very day we're allowed to start to begin collecting signatures. They can run, but they can't hide.

        BTW, though we also have a conservative-dominated court, I'm really interested to see how much of this shit gets overturned for technical reasons. As I said, with a legislature this incompetent, there is no way all of this was passed above board and no way they ended up dotting all of their "I"s and crossing their "T"s as we saw with the Right to Work law, which may not even apply to the tens-of-thousands of state employees it was written to weaken.

        • chascates

          I'm not aware of the state's demographics but I thought most of the conservatives lived in the upper peninsula (Yoopers?). Has there been a turn to the right or is talk radio and fear blanketing the state?

          • Negropolis

            Yoopers are actually pro-union, anti-interventionist populists with a socially conservative streak, so they are basically conservative Democrats. In fact, the Dem lost the district that includes the UP by only 0.6% due to Northern Michigan (below the bridge) being pretty red. The reddest areas of the state are Western Michigan and the exurbs of Detroit.

  • Negropolis


    Bwahahahaha!! The Puncher is actually a city council member in a Downriver suburb of Detroit…and he's not sorry:

    Marsee says he didn't know, or care, who Crowder was. "He literally got six inches from my face."

    He is not down playing the use of his dirty words, and he is not apologizing for them either. "Once I realized what he was doing, emotions took over," says Marsee. "I know it wasn't very impressive. But at the time, and I seen the camera, I seen the camera in my face. My passion for the union took over and the gentleman, he did back off. I didn't have to back off. I held my ground. That's all it was. And this union should hold their ground."

    And what does Marsee have to say now to Crowder? "I guess you got what you expected, brother. You came up for a reaction. You've done this many times in the past."

    And to the citizens in Melvindale? "Folks, it is what it is. You've seen me in the video. I've had a lot of phone calls of support. You know me. You either love me or hate me. I love the city of Melvindale, and that's why I'm doing what I'm doing."

    LOL! He used the "stand your ground" defense!

    "Union thug" FTW.

  • An_Outhouse

    Why was Faux Guy inside the tent? Picking sides? How journalistic of him.

  • DahBoner

    inside job

    Yeah, they snuck into Tower 7 in the night, laid the charges and the BOOM! Collapses and brings down the tent…


  • elgin_pelican

    Everyone ready? It's HAYMARKET TIME……..

  • dollymadison22

    Steve Crowder is an evil little prick. I wish the working man had ruffed him up good. People's lives are being made harder by an unaccountable political apparatus at the behest of unaccountable economic power. Is it any surprise that people are angry?

  • fitley

    Even the maggots on Breitbart are laughing.

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