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Great GOP Hope Marco Rubio: Let’s Just Go Ahead and Let Rich People Do Whatever

Marco Rubio: The hand goes up, the mouth goes shutMarco Rubio, who we have been told is the New Face of the Republican party, has a brilliant take on solving the so-called fiscal cliff: let’s just go ahead and let rich people do whatever they want because they’ll hire a  bunch of lawyers and do what they want no matter what so we might as well go with it.

This, dear reader, is his actual policy position on the tax code:

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said Thursday there isn’t much point in raising tax rates on the wealthy, because they also have the money to hire people who will help them get out of paying taxes.

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“The billionaires and millionaires that are going to be impacted by higher rates, they can afford to hire the best lawyers, lobbyists and accountants in America to figure out how not to pay those higher rates,” Rubio told National Journal’s Major Garrett at The Atlantic Washington Ideas Forum. “The people that are going to get stuck by that bill are the small businesses, the partnerships, the S corporations, that cannot hire the lawyers to get them out of it.”

We’re not Senators from Florida or anything, but it seems to us that this is a problem worth addressing given that the rule of law is the pillar of a functioning nation state. Or, we dunno, maybe we should just say fuck it and raise the age of retirement, which ever is easier.

As for the fiscal cliff, Rubio said an agreement must be made, likely without broader entitlement reform because there is simply not enough time.The sequester was a dumb idea when they came up with it and it’s a dumber idea today,” he said. “And it was bipartisan dumb. So the people want bipartisanship, there you have it.”

So to sum, Personal Responsibility is for Poors who don’t have fancy lawyers or lobbyists. Also, rich people do whatever they want anyway so you should probably just get used to the fact that you’ll be working til you die. Shared Sacrifice and whatnot.

[HuffPo]

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172 comments

    1. MosesInvests

      Yeah, 'cause Mexicans just love white Latinos who get an automatic Green Card when they come here without a visa.

  1. snowpointsecret

    "We don't want them to close loopholes because rich people can hire lawyers to get through the loopholes they'll close when they close them"

    Seems like there's a loophole the size of Florida in your logic, Marco.

    1. Lascauxcaveman

      At least he's admitting that the loopholes are the problem. Baby steps!

      Not bad, for an (R). Perhaps the next four years will be remembered by some as The Education of Mario Rubio.

      1. SuspectedDemocrat

        And lobbyists. He's saying lobbyists are a big problem because they talk him into voting against the middle class.

    2. CapeClod

      By this logic, the Bush era tax cuts caused a huge deficeit because before them only the middle class and the poor were paying taxes.

    3. MegPasadena

      According to his "logic", if we have a problem of giant rats eating our babies in their sleep, there would be nothing we can do about it.

  2. MittsHairHelmet

    For all the talk about how Marco Rubio is the hispanic savior of the GOP, he sure looks and sounds extremely white and republican.

    1. Lascauxcaveman

      He looks almost exactly like my Mexican brother-in-law; who has his faults, sure enough, but Republicanism isn't one of them.

    2. decentcitizen

      We've got a governor in NV who is Hispanic, and I'm sure would like a shot to be GOP nominee. But he's not a complete idiot so it's unlikely. (I said "complete", he's enough of an idiot where it matters.)

        1. BaldarTFlagass

          Joke's on you, Cruz and Rubio are both Cubans. Not of the Dallas Maverick-owning variety, either.

          1. ChillBill

            I actually grew up in South America, and also look like one of those "White Messicans." Luckily, I haven't heard from the GOP Latino outreach program yet.

  3. HRH_Maddie

    The Republicans seem to be tripping over themselves to keep the GOP the party of the rich, white male despite the thumping they just took.

  4. snowpointsecret

    “And it was bipartisan dumb. So the people want bipartisanship, there you have it.”

    Both sides screwed up so only MY side should be allowed to screw up anymore!

  5. BadKitty904

    I think you can make the same argument for, say, allowing rich folks to murder whoever they want. So, Rubio is publicly stating that the 1% is *above* the law? And he's OK with that?

    1. BaldarTFlagass

      You mean rich people can't just kill anyone they want? This should be part of the republican party platform.

    2. BerkeleyBear

      Not just okay – actively seeking honorary membership.

      And yeah, a whole lot of people would say that argument (the inverse of the idiotic "if you criminalize guns, only criminals will have them" bumper sticker) holds for most things in life, since the rich and privileged can almost always get a better deal than the poor and powerless. Which is why critical race theory scholars basically argue that poor people and minorities shouldn't have to obey the unfair laws they had no hand in creating, but don't try selling that to Mr. American Dream.

    3. MoeDeLawn

      I think they should get honorary diplomatic license plates, too, so we don't waste all that paper ticketing them only to see them declare their immunity.

    4. decentcitizen

      If this is true, why did rich people spend 390 million and some change to unsuccessfully sway an election where the sunsetting of Bush Tax breaks was the prevailing issue for them?

    1. Defeatably_Joe

      This is actually a major subtext behind the whine over "burdensome regulations", too.

      Many regulations actually either help small businesses directly, leave exemptions for sufficiently small businesses, or at very least, help level the playing field with large businesses for which these are larger burdens, but which also have the sizable advantages of economies of scale and market share. Actual bona fide small businesses actually benefit from regulations, which is why the "deregulation era" happens to coincide with the death of Mom and Pop's stores and the rise of big boxes. It's also why the people complaining about "Obamacare" are Applebee's, Papa John's, and the like- you know, NON-small businesses.

  6. MOG2410

    I'd love to join the GOP,if it will make me whiter, richer and provide the requisite penis. Wait, can I say that????

    1. oenspiek

      Currently we have insufficient data about orifice-bleaching among Latino-bots. But it would be irresponsible not to speculate.

  7. weejee

    The sequester was a dumb idea when they came up with it and it’s a dumber idea today

    How about sequestering the rich in Gitmo and their monies in a Federal vault.

  8. AncienReggie

    Maybe Congress could write unambiguous tax laws so lawyers would just get paid to say, "Sir, you pay the feds taxes equal to 25% of all income. And income is defined as …. hmmm, it says right here, all income."

  9. SpiderCrab

    With all the fluffy chit chat about Marco, at least one thing has been forgotten or gone unspoken: the guy is a dumbass and a liar. Go back to Florida, jerkoff.

  10. Fairtackle

    Weird, it is almost as if when people who think that government can't do anything right get elected, government doesn't do anything right.

  11. Mumbletypeg

    He's right. For example, GE gets out of paying all those taxes thanks in part to accountants, but mostly lawyers; I read it here on wonkette. Or "legal accountants"… or "accountable lawyers" Goddam, is there any profession left I can encourage my niece or nephew to pursue that is a viable living but doesn't have to involve dragging oneself through the mud 8 hours a day?

  12. Oblios_Cap

    Marco Rubio, empty suit.

    Actually, his position is the same as the one previously articulated by one G.W. Bush.

    I never thought that I would ever use the words "articulated" and G.W. Bush in the same sentence.

    1. HogeyeGrex

      I thought I remembered it going even farther back. Wasn't this sort of Leona Helmsley's "little people" defense?

      W did popularize this whole mindset, though, and look how awesome that turned out!

    1. BadKitty904

      He's certainly stating, pretty clearly and publicly, that he's def not interested in fixing the tax loopholes.

  13. Callyson

    The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.

    Yeah, I don't think Thucydides intended that as a policy platform, Rubio…

    /FFS

    1. BadKitty904

      Kid Combover would only be interested in Thucydides if it were a new (and untested) drug being pushed by Big Pharma…

  14. Crank_Tango

    New face? More like the new ears of the GOP.

    Seriously, that fucker can hear Castro with those things.

  15. PsycWench

    I remain amazed that apparently the wealthy are willing to contribute big bucks to their political parties to reduce taxes, they are willing to pay big bucks to accountants to reduce taxes but God forbid they actually just pay the taxes.

    1. Veritas78

      It tells you something about the amount of taxes they expect that they might be asked to pay, like perhaps enough to solve a lot of our problems.

  16. BaldarTFlagass

    “And it was bipartisan dumb. So the people want bipartisanship, there you have it.”

    I bet I can guess which side provided more of the dumb.

  17. SorosBot

    And since some people will always get behind the will while shitfaced drunk, why should we have laws against drunk driving anyway?

  18. Lascauxcaveman

    I'm sorta looking forward to this whole "fiscal cliff" dealy.

    Not in the slowing-down-the-economy-again sense, but in the Republicans-stepping-all-over-themselves-to-protect-the-wealthy sense.

    Pass the popcorn, pls.

    1. Ruhe

      What's interesting is the tone he's striking here though. It's like he wants to avoid sounding like he's defending the 1% and rather wants to sound like he's commiserating with the rest of us. Like, "hey, the rich, what are you gonna do with 'em." Then we all shrug and move along.

  19. BigSkullF*ckingDog

    Hey GOP! Just because a guy has some o's at the end of his name does not mean he is not as white and hateful as the rest of you.

  20. Graham Cracker

    I demand that the government hire lawyers for the 99% so that we can do whatever we want.Too. Also.

  21. Misty Malarky

    Dear Marco Rubio:

    *Why don't you take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut? Why don't you take a flying fuck at the mooooooooooooon?

    With votes, natch.

    * I think this will be my standard reply to every post regarding all of these GOP goombahs.

  22. sbj1964

    Mittens could not pick Marco because the late night comedians would have started calling them team Chico&The Man.

  23. BaldarTFlagass

    So, the rich people have enough money to hire lawyers and accountants to weasel out of it.
    Instead of paying all that money to those people, why don't they just use it to pay their fucking fair share of the tax burden?"

  24. GregComlish

    I thought the entire point of an S-corporation was that you don't pay any taxes; the taxes inure directly to the owners of the S-Corp. Am I missing something here?

  25. elviouslyqueer

    So let me get this straight, Mario. You're admitting that your rich GOP cronies are going to go to any means necessary to willingly defraud the government "find loopholes" in order to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. And you're totally okay with that.

    Asshole.

  26. MissTaken

    “The billionaires and millionaires that are going to be impacted by higher rates, they can afford to hire the best lawyers, lobbyists and accountants in America to figure out how not to pay those higher rates,”

    Ever thought to write a law that doesn't contain loopholes and such that a lawyer can weasel around in? Huh?

    1. James Michael Curley

      The incredible complexity of contracts today is a disillusioned attempt to write no loophole contracts.
      Just today one of my retained barristers sent a six page newsletter summarizing ways to use the standard force majeure (the defense that an Act of God prevented a party from compliance, etc.) to the advantage of merely choosing to renegotiate various types of contracts. This was related only to the state in which he practices.

  27. T3rbo

    Yes, the best of all possible worlds. Troubles are just the shadows in a beautiful picture, where rich people are unstoppable, like the Terminator. Therefore, we surrender!

    1. BadKitty904

      My bf was born in Miami and is of Cuban descent. He can barely even say Rubio's name without foaming at the mouth. The only time I've ever heard his mother – a very sweet, devoutly Catholic abuelita – swear was when she described Rubio as "that God-damned son of a bitch"…

  28. Beowoof

    I am surprised that Zorro has not made a come back in Florida. With evil government such as this he is needed.

  29. ph7

    “The billionaires and millionaires that are going to be impacted by higher rates, they can afford to hire the best lawyers, lobbyists and accountants in America to figure out how not to pay those higher rates”

    I understand a Guillotine tax has fewer loopholes.

  30. BerkeleyBear

    His point is not entirely invalid, as minimizing tax liability has been a growth industry since Roman times. But it is incredibly stupid as a public policy stance. Similar stances include:

    Someone will always break the law, and a few might even get away with murder, so we just shouldn't have any restrictions on homicide.

    Kids pee in pools no matter how many signs you put up, so we shouldn't have any restrictions on toxic dumping.

    Nuclear accidents can never be completely prevented, so let's tear up the Non-proliferation treaty and let the Iranians and North Koreans do whatever the hell they feel like.

    Now, I could go on, but I'm afraid I might eventually stumble on a reasonable policy (like decriminalizing most drug possession) and I wouldn't want to encourage Rubio's line of thinking.

  31. Antispandex

    Ok, Ok, I see, so if I were thinking of starting up a little drug trafficking business, and since drug traffikers have lots of money for lawyers and such, I shouldn't have any probelms at all with my new business venture? K. See, I didn't think it worked that way.

  32. SayItWithWookies

    Gee, Senator Rubio, it's too bad there's nothing that can be done to make people — um — comply with the fucking law. I guess we citizens should be addressing this issue to someone in government who can maybe write some sort of bill and make it become a law and all that civics stuff. Any ideas on who to go to for that?

  33. Mojopo

    The GOP is so enormously sexed in the butt, that this guy and Bobby Jindal are trying to sound like the reasonable, puppety white ones.

  34. MinAgain

    As a lawyer, I applaud this New World Order in which I am more powerful than the entire federal government. Mwahaha!

  35. mbobier

    Good grief…. The Repubs are even causing THEMSELVES to give up in despair when faced with their own corruption! That's some powerful nihilism they've got going, there.

  36. LibertyLover

    I am so very glad that we had an election that said that the rest of us want the rich to pay their fair share, aren't you? And now all rich people will happily comply.

  37. RalphCrown

    Do you hear that, you miserable little toads? We own you, all of you! We do what we want, and we get away with it every time! Now set yourself on fire so we can light our cigars.

  38. James Michael Curley

    Hey Marco! (Polo). Don't get your hopes up. After you spend the next three and a half years campaigning on Tuesday Night at the Republican National Convention in 2016 the conservatives of the Republican Party (read all) are going to dump you like last week's re-fried beans (but with enough salsa the're not too bad).

  39. WaltFrench

    Meanwhile, a recent chart from the IRS on non-compliance shows small businesses hiding income is the biggest single element of ~ 15% underpayment of legal tax. Not as if Rubio is exposing anything new here.

  40. DahBoner

    Splendid!

    I think all these right-wing Cuban-Americans have "helped" America enough.

    Isn't it time to go back to your precious island and help your primos out?

  41. HouseOfTheBlueLights

    "And it was bipartisan dumb. So the people want bipartisanship, there you have it.”

    Does this mean I get to punch my brother in the face instead of working it out, like mom always makes me do?

  42. veence69

    So begins the lamestream media's attempt to tarnish Marco Rubio by paying attention to and reporting on the things he says..

  43. ttommyunger

    First, let's keep it accurate when we hurl insults at minorities we don't like: this Beaner is a Cuban, not a Messican. Second: what do I call a Beaner Oreo? I've got a hunch it has something to do with Tacos, but I can't come up with anything… Little help?

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