SORRY DAVE I CAN'T DO THAT  3:10 pm November 1, 2012

We Are Sure These Mysterious Vote Tally Changes In Broward County, Florida, Are No Problem At All

by Kris E. Benson

A lady voting, what is next?Hey remember the 2000 election, when Florida went to Bush by 538 votes after he got a bunch of rich douchebags to go fake a “riot” outside the Miami-Dade polling headquarters? Well turns out you can avoid all of that unpleasantness if you just change the vote tallies BEFORE the election! Why, just this week, revised tallies of Florida’s early voting results were posted and for some mysterious reason, over 500 votes disappeared. Surely it’s a coincidence that over a thousand votes disappeared from heavily black neighborhoods while white neighborhoods actually gained votes?

Broward is a Democratic stronghold that Barack Obama is expected to carry by a large margin. But initial early vote totals reported by the office of the Broward Supervisor of Elections changed on Sunday, in some cases dramatically, causing some to question the numbers.

An analysis of the unofficial totals by early voting location on the Broward Supervisor of Elections website from Saturday, compared to the tallies posted on Sunday, shows that in one location, the E. Pat Larkins Community Center, located on Martin Luther King Blvd. in Pompano Beach, the revised totals showed 1,003 fewer votes…Across the 17 Broward polling locations, 15 saw their vote totals revised, mostly by minute amounts of between 1 and 7 votes. But the three more significant changes, including the addition of 398 votes in Tamarac (a racially mixed community) and adding 99 votes to the totals from Pompano Beach City Hall, whose demographic is majority white.

The revisions mean that 536 fewer total votes were reported in Broward — a reduction from 28,330 votes to 27,794 votes. That could be significant in a close election in a state where the presidential contest was decided by just 538 votes in 2000.

For the purposes of critical analysis, the Grio (an NBC affiliate) has posted this handy chart showing where vote tallies have changed:

Predictably, some of the revised vote totals have been blamed on a “computer glitch,” which isn’t entirely impossible given that Diebold voter machines lost 10,000 votes in the Bronx earlier this year (but don’t worry,  Bronx is full of Poors.)

Other revised totals have been blamed on “transposed numbers” because someone initially posted a 1050 when it should have been a 1150.  Broward Count elections office will be looking into this post-haste, supervised by the ever-watchful Dr. Brenda Snipes, who, to her credit, was not “comfortable” with purging eligible voters from the rolls on the Governor’s say-so. So don’t worry! Surely we won’t screw up the presidential election twice in less than two decades…will we??

[The Grio]

 

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elviouslyqueer November 1, 2012 at 3:14 pm

And so it begins.

BaldarTFlagass November 1, 2012 at 4:00 pm

So, is it the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning?

TootsStansbury November 1, 2012 at 4:11 pm

Our country. So it goes.

BoatOfVelociraptors November 1, 2012 at 4:16 pm

That depends on the bpm you prefer your pumpkins to be smashed.

Willardbot9000_V2.5 November 1, 2012 at 4:46 pm

I didn't want to this but I must…Neo, every beginning has an ending…I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself

Biff November 1, 2012 at 5:20 pm

And so it begins

continues.
Fixed

Negropolis November 2, 2012 at 12:32 am

This is the end, my only friend…the end.

freakishlywrong November 1, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Can't wait for the Bain Brothers Brigade.

Willardbot9000_V2.5 November 1, 2012 at 4:48 pm

I thought that was Romney's campaign theme already….I wish such nonsense happened in Boston so they could organize an angry legion of Irish poors to show the gaggle of Patrick Bateman's friends that is the GOP that yes, they really are Brooks Brothers pussies…with votes, of course.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 6:06 pm

They only pull this shit where they can get away with it. If they tried it in this state, there would be rioting in the streets. They'd be lucky to get away with their underroos forget the Brooks Bros. suits. With boxes FULL of votes.

tessiee November 1, 2012 at 10:28 pm

"an angry legion of Irish poors"

Now I'm picturing that House of Pain video.

Willardbot9000_V2.5 November 2, 2012 at 12:46 am

Pretty much the same thing…except I'm thinking more like Charlestown where the big difference between some of those guys and the Mafia is the last names. Southies also and too…

zumpie November 1, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Not just a lady voting, but a dusky hued one…..

On the plus side, rumour has it both sides are lawyering up all over the freakin' place!

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 3:35 pm

No rumour. Both sides have already announced their legal teams.

zumpie November 1, 2012 at 3:44 pm

Yeah, Bamz's basis will be stuff like this. Mitty's will be "but it's our turn" and "look how much money I spent!"

Lascauxcaveman November 1, 2012 at 4:12 pm

Mitty's will be "but it's our turn" and "look how much money I spent!

As Scalia shrugs and says, "Well, I'll buy that," and Thomas nods silently, gravely in assent.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 4:23 pm

Romney's rallies have shrunk. Where once he could expect around 10,000 attendees, this week his figures have been dismal. 3,000 here, 5,000 there. Ryan's doing even worse. At what was billed as his "monster rally" in his home state, he turned out 600 attendees. President Obama's most recent rally attracted 36,000 attendees. The media keeps trying to spin this as "close," with Joke Line opining as to how the media is "confused." When you outdraw your opponent by 60 TIMES, that's not close, it's a blowout. But what happens after the votes are counted will be even more interesting.

I really do not envy the President. He has these maroons to deal with even as the international population pressures and fiscal and weather systems are all blowing up around us. We live in interesting times.

Biff November 1, 2012 at 5:22 pm

Wish I could've gone to Vegas to see Hopey today, but I got shit to do…

zumpie November 1, 2012 at 7:31 pm

Early on we saw that kind of shit, too. Like Obama had an event that drew 5K and it was a failure, Mittens had one that attracted 500 and it was a made, rolicking success.

Some idiot from the NYT is on Hardball babbling about how yeah, now the Prez has been "acting like a president, not a candidate..but is he too late for early voters in Ohio?" You mean those early voters who have been overwhelmingly supporting him, dumbass???

Oh and hint: he's both the President AND a candidate.

On the plus side, thanks for telling me how well attended his events are!

tessiee November 1, 2012 at 9:46 pm

"At what was billed as his "monster rally" in his home state, he turned out 600 attendees."

Would that be the monster rally in Portland, Michigan, or the monster rally in Portland, Massachusetts?

I'm being facetious, of course; they hate him in both states.

actor212 November 1, 2012 at 3:49 pm

"At starting point guard-ard-ard…for the Obamaniacs-acs-acs….Number 7-even…David. Boies. Boiessssssssss"

Negropolis November 2, 2012 at 12:33 am

Whe they built their teams, was it like the NBA draft? Because that would be awesome.

MittBorg November 2, 2012 at 12:57 am

NBA is for basketball? Is that the same as volleyball?

RedneckMuslin November 1, 2012 at 3:40 pm

Job creators!

ProgressiveInga November 1, 2012 at 3:15 pm

Let's dust off the 2000 bumper sticker:
"Bush: It Ain't Over 'Til Your Brother Counts the Votes!"

smokefilledroommate November 1, 2012 at 3:25 pm

..and Your Cousin Calls the Election for Fox News

Lascauxcaveman November 1, 2012 at 4:14 pm

"Vote Nader: Bush and Gore are the Same Thing"

Negropolis November 2, 2012 at 12:34 am

And your Brother's SoS Puts in Overtime to Change the Outcome.

LionHeartSoyDog November 2, 2012 at 1:14 am

The Russian people, in the dead of a Russian winter, occupied Moscow Square over voting irregualities.
Soft-bellied corn-syrup-fed Normals will accept anything. They were okay with Bush.
Why not give Rmoney a shot?

Mumbletypeg November 1, 2012 at 3:15 pm

Cretinous underhanded officials are reprehensible on two levels:
For the votes that got away, and the fact this smarm is getting away with it.

Oblios_Cap November 1, 2012 at 3:16 pm

Crooked activities in South Florida? Say it ain't so!

Loch_Nessosaur November 1, 2012 at 3:16 pm

You don't say. And in Florida, no less. Those scamps. Also, I believe this was Allen West's district that he scampered out of because the redrawn district was too Democratic to vote his crazy self back in there.

weejee November 1, 2012 at 3:17 pm

Negative ballots? Looks like Florida DRat voters are gonna get Gored again.

smokefilledroommate November 1, 2012 at 3:17 pm

Glitches be racist.

HogeyeGrex November 1, 2012 at 3:23 pm

More like 1007, amirite?

smokefilledroommate November 1, 2012 at 3:28 pm

Or 2000.

Negropolis November 2, 2012 at 12:35 am

I got 1007 problems, and a glitch…is ALL of them, Katie.

Radiotherapy November 1, 2012 at 3:17 pm

It's not like Governor Rick Scott would be complicit in a fraud or anything.

mayor_quimby November 1, 2012 at 8:48 pm

He's implicit, right?

emmelemm November 1, 2012 at 3:18 pm

in one location, the E. Pat Larkins Community Center, located on Martin Luther King Blvd. in Pompano Beach, the revised totals showed 1,003 fewer votes

That tells you all you need to know.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr November 1, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Yep.

Lionel[redacted]Esq November 1, 2012 at 3:41 pm

It's the fault of the New Black Panther party?

emmelemm November 1, 2012 at 4:37 pm

Well, to be fair, it's not Malcolm X Avenue.

Negropolis November 2, 2012 at 12:36 am

The New Black Panthers would never be caught walking MLK Boulevard. Now, Malcolm X Avenue is a whole other story.

It's funny, in my city, MLK Blvd actually crosses Malcolm X Street. lol

BaldarTFlagass November 1, 2012 at 3:42 pm

On a brighter note, I was very pleased to see that, during a recent visit to SW Illinois, when I crossed the Mississippi on I-64, the first exit for East St Louis will now take you to Barack Obama Boulevard. Awesome.

Terry November 1, 2012 at 3:54 pm

I'm hoping that the good people of Northern Virginia see fit to rename the main road through Ronald Reagan National Airport (almost killed me to type that full name rather than just National) from Aviation Circle to Barack Obama Way. That would mean that Obama would run right through, and over even, Ronald Reagan.

Willardbot9000_V2.5 November 1, 2012 at 5:21 pm

I know…funnily enough, everytime I've journeyed to the East coast I've flowen to BWI to get to DC. One, Dulles is more expensive and two, Dulles and Reagan were both right wing douchenozzles. They should rename Reagan national as Bonzo National. Even addressing Reagan for my foreign policy course has been known to send bile into my mouth. Although, I did get to bash the writer of the Reagan piece for using "messianic, empty-headed, myopic hero worshipping" which felt damn good. But since I had to be SOMEWHAT objective I had to praise Reagan for arms control as a diplomatic strategy to befriend Gorbachev…

Terry November 1, 2012 at 9:54 pm

BWI's full name is BWI Thurgood Marshall. I think we got the best of the honorific naming for sure.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 5:59 pm

Woo-WOOT!

Negropolis November 2, 2012 at 12:37 am

I've actually never given much thought to the things that will be named after him. It's something that gives me the warm-and-fuzzies just thinking about it.

MonkeyBiz November 2, 2012 at 10:44 am

Is there any city in American where Martin Luther King Blvd. isn't in the, shall we say "Economically Disadvantaged" part of town?

Shellwith2Ls November 2, 2012 at 1:07 pm

My town, Wilmington, Delaware. It was skidrow (of course) when they renamed it MLK but it's now the entry point to our revitalized Riverfront area.

MittBorg November 3, 2012 at 12:59 pm

Yes. In one of the neighbouring cities, Martin Luther King, Jr. Way runs right through the heart of town and up into the expensive hills (athough it's named The Alameda at some point).

Dildeaux November 1, 2012 at 3:18 pm

Funny how the legislation and the glitches never go our way. Seems kinda improbable…

imissopus November 1, 2012 at 3:18 pm

RE the alt-text: a black lady, no less. My God. HAS ORVAL FAUBUS BEEN MADE AWARE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING?????

Cicada November 1, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Upvote for the Faubus reference.

imissopus November 1, 2012 at 3:30 pm

Yeah, I felt using George Wallace would be too easy, and I am no hack. I have standards for my snark.

Willardbot9000_V2.5 November 1, 2012 at 5:23 pm

Considering both the Button Gwinett and Faubus societies endorsed RMoney…I'd say their feelings have been made well known.

Indiepalin November 1, 2012 at 3:18 pm

I blame it on the Bay Harbor Butcher.

proudgrampa November 1, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Indeed. I thought his motives might have been political…

coolhandnuke November 1, 2012 at 3:41 pm

Time to remove those "dark passengers" from the rolls.

hagajim November 1, 2012 at 5:14 pm

See, I was thinking Ice Cream Truck Killer.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 6:00 pm

Y'ain't gonna get me this time, guys. I *watched* Dexter.

(buffs nails on lapel, walks away whistling)

BaldarTFlagass November 1, 2012 at 3:18 pm

Fuck. Once more 'round the mulberry bush.

BoatOfVelociraptors November 1, 2012 at 3:19 pm

1150 -> 1050 is not a transposition. That's losing 100 votes.

Callyson November 1, 2012 at 3:19 pm

First they came for the Florida votes…

/FFS

Bezoar November 1, 2012 at 3:19 pm

I have no trouble accepting the idea that the Republicans would simply attempt flagrant theft of this, or any other, election. Known that since at least 1968. But now I'm coming to think it would actually be ridiculously easy for them to pull it off.

SmutBoffin November 1, 2012 at 3:37 pm

Really! The reporter-based media will just go "This RAISES QUESTIONS about the integrity of blahblahblah", then the pundit-media will self-segregate into two camps denying and proclaiming the allegations, then the Supreme Court will just pick the winner, then people years down the road will wonder how we got into an unwinnable war with Iran.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 3:19 pm

Good gawd. Is there no end to this shit? Three separate instances of Democratic voter registrations being discovered in dumpsters in W. VA; Voters in inland CA counties finding their party registration flipped from Dem/Ind to Rep; FL voters told they can vote by phone (lie); OH reporting mail-in votes NOT received; WI, Romney training poll-watchers to demand photo ID (not required by law); AZ Latino voters given incorrect dates.

Why are these blatant attempts to steal the vote NOT BEING PROSECUTED to the fullest extent of the law?

I hope you have all verified your voting locations and laws, or (praise jeebus) maybe even voted. If you have not, please arrange to do so ASAP. Here are the telephone numbers that you will need, should you be harassed at the polls:

US Atty's office, PA: 412-894-7516. Assistant U.S. Attorney Shaun Sweeney is Western Pennsylvania's district election officer.
DoJ Civil Rights Division Voting Section in Washington can be reached at 1-800-253-3931 or 202-307-2767 or online

weejee November 1, 2012 at 3:41 pm

Either that or get out the bayonets to cut through this horseshit.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 3:56 pm

OF VOTES!

OzoneTom November 1, 2012 at 3:57 pm

Taken together with the RNC and Romney association with Sproul I think that this all qualifies for RICO investigation.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 4:27 pm

I realize this is hardly the time or place to insist on one, but the American attention span has grown so short, I fear if we don't do something, it'll disappear down the memory hole,

Jimmyone November 1, 2012 at 4:20 pm

I was found in a dumpster once….long ago…but I was already registered to vote….the rest of the story is long, sad, unworthy of telling…

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 4:27 pm

No, you weren't. Nobody would throw away a nice person like you.

Now, tell me the rest of that story.

Jimmyone November 2, 2012 at 9:13 pm

I was born a poor white boy of Polish decent…into the middle of a freakin' Eyetalian neighborhood…sad enough?No? well…a polack kid was kinda like a punching bag when caught…anyway as we grew up around the goombahs, we ran errands and did favors…. ya know….neighborhood shit…I'd say it was around puberty time or sometime after five in the afternoon…I was beboppin' along minding my own business…when a couple of goombahs hollered something about my heritage and my mom…well…I never had enough ass nor enough wisdom to be called a wise ass…but the Polack could not be controlled… a double bird…a double crotch grab…and a "bafongol"…the beating wasn't that bad…but the sound of the dumpster lid closing was not cool…a friend from school had seen me get dumped and he helped dig me out…brought me to his house where his mom and his sister cleaned me up and gave me bus money to get home…my favorite part of this memory is…three days later I lost my virginity to his sister…this story is mostly true…there are some fuzzy spots… the most embarrassing parts were left out and the names were changed to protect the innocent………..

MittBorg November 2, 2012 at 11:09 pm

I'm so sorry. If I'd been there, I woulda kicked ALLA their asses for ya. (Hugs Jimmyone) The dirty little fuckers.

On the *plus* side, you did get to lose your virginity, three days later. No mean feat, at that age!

tessiee November 1, 2012 at 9:47 pm

Prommie? Is that you?

Jimmyone November 2, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Alas…no…but thank you for the compliment…

fuflans November 1, 2012 at 5:47 pm

this is why we need those black panthers back.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 5:56 pm

If it weren't for the fact that I am (a) very easily recognizable and (b) a gimp, I'd volunteer. Somebody clearly needs the shit shocked out of 'em, and soon.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr November 1, 2012 at 3:20 pm

I think Wonket is trying to supress the vote by depressing the voters. They're in on it! Wake up! etc.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 3:56 pm

Baaaaa humbug.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr November 1, 2012 at 4:14 pm

Aw buck up lil camper! How are you sweetie?

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 4:29 pm

(growl, mutter)

Eh. I was expecting a storm and instead of a lightshow, I got a mingy drizzle. And now there's Xmas music. I feel exceedingly curmudgeonly right now.

And you, my dear Internet Spouse?

natl_[redacted]_cmdr November 1, 2012 at 4:41 pm

I am well although my interwebz are glitchy and sketchy. Do not be curmudgeonly. Be happy and well. Failing that, there's always the Mayan apocalypse to look forward to!

Mittens Howell, III November 1, 2012 at 3:21 pm

It happened behind closed doors, so it's okay.

Jukesgrrl November 1, 2012 at 3:50 pm

And in quiet rooms.

proudgrampa November 1, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Jesus. Haven't we already seen this movie???

boskolives November 1, 2012 at 3:38 pm

Yeah, but this time they're giving free sample packs of Astro-Lube at the door to, uh,,, speed things up.

BaldarTFlagass November 1, 2012 at 3:39 pm

It's like seeing West Side Story after watching Romeo and Juliet.

Lascauxcaveman November 1, 2012 at 4:22 pm

GAAAH! How about a 'spoiler alert' next time, buddy?

BaldarTFlagass November 1, 2012 at 4:51 pm

Have you seen The Crying Game? The duck is really a goose!!!

BoatOfVelociraptors November 1, 2012 at 4:18 pm

Friggin Spartacus.

tessiee November 1, 2012 at 9:48 pm

I can't say I much cared for it in 2000, and I liked it even less in 2004.

Negropolis November 2, 2012 at 12:42 am

Yes, but like all movies, these days, the mega-wealthy producers want a sequel.

Mumbletypeg November 1, 2012 at 3:21 pm

more significant changes, including the addition of 398 votes in Tamarac and adding 99 votes to the totals from Pompano Beach City Hall, whose demographic is majority white.

Flagrancy, meet Foul.

freakishlywrong November 1, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Where oh where are all of our tri-cornered "grass roots patriots" protesting this shenangani?

cousinitt November 1, 2012 at 3:26 pm

At the NASCAR track waiting for their latest hero to self-immolate.

LibertyLover November 1, 2012 at 4:15 pm

Koch brothers have spent all of their "free busses and donut" money on Romney's election campaign.

Willardbot9000_V2.5 November 1, 2012 at 5:31 pm

Eh…probably helping ensure the scheme works, knowing that bunch of authoritarian follower, racist, bigoted pants pissers.

Mittens Howell, III November 1, 2012 at 3:22 pm

Those votes were shipped off to the Caymans.

Lucidamente1 November 1, 2012 at 3:22 pm

In fairness, Florida election officials are just trying to cure a bad case of the blahs.

Indiepalin November 1, 2012 at 3:23 pm

And it's no coincidence that the total number of votes under suspicion equals 420.

BadKitty904 November 1, 2012 at 3:27 pm

Well, it *IS* Florida, maaan…

weejee November 1, 2012 at 3:42 pm

Limbaugh's weight?

Oblios_Cap November 1, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Broward Count elections office will be looking into this post-haste, supervised by the ever-watchful Dr. Brenda Snipes

A real-life Snipes hunt!

gullywompr November 1, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Gasp.

freakishlywrong November 1, 2012 at 3:23 pm

I happen to work in a polling place, Tuesday should be really interesting, if not stabby. With votes.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 3:58 pm

You got enough dosh for bail munnies?

nounverb911 November 1, 2012 at 3:24 pm

"Math is hard".
–Katherine Harris

actor212 November 1, 2012 at 3:25 pm

Forget it, Jake, it's Broward.

emmelemm November 1, 2012 at 3:25 pm

Nice.

SayItWithWookies November 1, 2012 at 3:25 pm

Jews for Buchanan approves these revised numbers.

MacRaith November 1, 2012 at 3:26 pm

You know what the scary part is? Many conservatives I know are perfectly OK with the election being stolen, as long as it's the GOP that steals it. They don't give a damn about democracy – in fact, they treat the very idea with contempt. Sure, in public they'll go on and on about Obama stealing the election, but in private they're perfectly willing to admit that it's their side doing the stealing. They just don't see anything wrong with that.

This way lies fascism. And I wish I was being sarcastic, but I'm not. Not this time.

Jukesgrrl November 1, 2012 at 3:53 pm

It's hard to love democracy when you sincerely don't believe all people are equal.

T3rbo November 1, 2012 at 4:33 pm

Uh, fascism creates jobs. Duh.

emmelemm November 1, 2012 at 4:38 pm

And the trains run ON TIME, thankyouverymuch.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 6:08 pm

Mom used to say that. To our Jewish friends. "You might not like Mr. Hitler, but the trains ran on TIME!" And wondered why we never invited them over again.

VodkaGoGo November 1, 2012 at 6:16 pm

They see any democrat elected to office as illegitimate, no matter how many fucking votes they got because when it comes down to it, they don't believe democrats count as Americans and they say as much every fucking day. They really do hate democracy and love authoritarianism. Everything they say about liberals is either a projection of what their guys are already doing or what they want their guys to be doing shortly.

BadKitty904 November 1, 2012 at 3:26 pm

Yah, funny how that works…

royhobbson November 1, 2012 at 3:27 pm

It's the 3/5ths Vote Compromise all over again – but now with 100% less "compromise," 100% more "computer glitches!"

BaldarTFlagass November 1, 2012 at 3:27 pm

Cheaters never prosper.
Well, sometimes.

zumpie November 1, 2012 at 3:28 pm

The stupidest part? Even Nate Silver thinks Mittens would carry Florida fair and square. But I guess why truly win when you can cheat, right?

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 4:00 pm

Memo from RNC head in FL to his minions indicates that Obama is running ahead 2-1 there. I think TPM might have the story. FL papers probly carrying it too. Or see The Hill.

Arkoday November 1, 2012 at 3:28 pm

This whole fucking thing needs moar UN monitoring.

Caelan Aegana November 1, 2012 at 3:39 pm

I can't wait until a Floridian (they seem to be really good at this) shoots a UN monitor and Europe declares war on us. They will murder us all with universal healthcare and public transit, don'tchaknow.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr November 1, 2012 at 3:28 pm

Cheat to win.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr November 1, 2012 at 3:45 pm

Hey where'd ya go? I'll look crazy just talking to myself!

gullywompr November 1, 2012 at 3:56 pm

Ya know, you really do.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr November 1, 2012 at 4:13 pm

Yeah, "look" crazy…

natl_[redacted]_cmdr November 1, 2012 at 5:36 pm

The kitteh set me up!

BadKitty904 November 1, 2012 at 6:52 pm

No, no, no! I just realized that my comment was so obvious that I'd look like (even more of) a clueless jackass if I left it up. So I deleted it, in embarrassment… :0/

BadKitty904 November 1, 2012 at 3:30 pm

I'm not sure us sitting around and bitching is going to fix this. Is there anything we can *do*?

OneDollarJuana November 1, 2012 at 3:34 pm

How about them "Second Amendment Remedies" the gundamentalists are always going on about?

MosesInvests November 1, 2012 at 3:40 pm

I am so stealing "gundamentalists".

gullywompr November 1, 2012 at 3:36 pm

We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part, and we're just the guys to do it.

MosesInvests November 1, 2012 at 3:40 pm

Nuke 'em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 4:03 pm

Yes. If you know any lawyers, paralegals, etc. who are willing to pitch in, have them contact the OFA. Meanwhile, VOTE IN HUGE NUMBERS. Do everything you can to get people to the polls, esp. in the swing states. Obama has a lead in all of them at this point, but voters are fickle. Tell everyone you know to go to the polls in GROUPS, and have a designated cameraperson with a cell/camera to record any attempted harrassment. Contact the DoJ immediately to report such harrassment. Take the telephone numbers of those entities to the poll with you. The FBI has people on standby to deal with complaints.

BadKitty904 November 1, 2012 at 4:10 pm

Thank you. That was the kind of answer I was looking for.

My question was sincere and I prolly should've labeled it as such. I've only ever voted in one presidential election before and I'm truly not sure what the procedure is for combating such unAmerican douchery. Thanks again.

Is there some way to prevent the electronic treachery, though? The behind-the-scenes, after-voting stuff?

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 6:13 pm

The BradBlog is reporting on it, there's a groundswell effort going on to ensure that the DoJ investigates. Meanwhile, Anonymous is monitoring the elections and has already warned Karl Rove that if he attempts to steal it, they will know and will turn over evidence to the DoJ that will put him away. I don't know how much faith to put in that, but Anonymous has been remarkably effective at shutting down pedo rings, so I'm hoping for the best. Will taking a screen capture of your vote help? It might.

Unlike Gore, Obama is prepared. For pretty much everything. He's a fighter, thank jeebus.

BadKitty904 November 1, 2012 at 6:58 pm

Again, thank you. I heard about the Anonymous thing – I'm not sure warning your enemy about your battle plan is the best of tactical maneuvers – they'll simply work harder to conceal their treachery. But I do agree that having these greedy, amoral, freedom-hating GOP shitheads aware that they're being watched helps.

They've gotten away with it so far because they've done it on the DL – the more people who are aware of their douchery, the better chance of catching 'em at it.

Trinket November 1, 2012 at 8:58 pm

Thank you for this. I barely even got started hyperventilating and you calmed me right down. No snark.

fuflans November 1, 2012 at 5:57 pm

is the dnc or ofa organizing anything does anyone know? i'd trek out to tammy duckworth's district (i voted way long ago in my ex rahm / ex blago district).

boskolives November 1, 2012 at 3:30 pm

It's the blahs own fault, if they never got the vote none of them would be missing now, would they? Self inflicted wounds it seems…

Jukesgrrl November 1, 2012 at 3:56 pm

It turns my stomach to think about how many people in Broward County would agree with that statement.

zumpie November 1, 2012 at 3:31 pm

Oh, also, too, also: weren;t just an assload of mysteriously missing ballots (found in someone's car trunk or something) part of why it took until like JULY to determine who won the MN senate race in 2008?

On the plus side, it appears that Bamz doesn't require Florida to hit 270, so unless this happens all over, which, well maybe….

freakishlywrong November 1, 2012 at 3:42 pm

Well, how ELSE do you deny a clear majority to Dems unless you fuck with election results? Also, bring this up every time the trope of "Obama had the Senate and the House for 2 years! and didn't fix all the problems the Refucks left behind" bullshit.

lulzmonger November 1, 2012 at 3:32 pm

Begun, the ratfuckery has.

magic_titty November 1, 2012 at 3:32 pm

Maybe the black votes are only being counted at 3/5ths?

CrunchyKnee November 1, 2012 at 3:33 pm

One of these days people are going to wake up to the corruption all around them and… ah fuck it, who am I kidding? It's a good thing that I keep a flask of "medicinal" whisky in my desk drawer.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 4:06 pm

People are waking up. The turnout has been bigger than 2008 everywhere so far, and it seems to be running well ahead for Obama. Nate Silver just bet Joe Scarborough $1,000 to the Red Cross that Obama wins on Tuesday.

NEVER give up! Didja vote? If so, here's yer gold medal, if not, getcher ass out there and DO IT NOW.

Nopantsmcgee November 1, 2012 at 3:34 pm

God, just when I was feeling optimistic again. Someone say something to make me feel good about Tuesday again, please…..I can't take another George W Bush …I can't…seriously

BaldarTFlagass November 1, 2012 at 3:36 pm

I honestly think this guy would be worse than Bush II.

emmelemm November 1, 2012 at 3:37 pm

I believe that's called "not helping".

cousinitt November 1, 2012 at 3:56 pm

Totes worser. Romney has a brain. Well, many brains…

larrykat November 1, 2012 at 3:41 pm

Vodka!

actor212 November 1, 2012 at 3:48 pm

Relax, man.

We got this. Just make sure you get out and vote and get your friends out to vote.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr November 1, 2012 at 3:52 pm

Yeah! What you said! Also glad to see Sandy didn't sandblast your snarker off.

SayItWithWookies November 1, 2012 at 3:56 pm

Right now TalkingPointsMemo's swing state poll calculator has President Obama ahead in Ohio, Virginia, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Iowa, Nevada, Wisconsin, New Mexico, Michigan and New Hampshire. Romney is leading only in Florida and North Carolina.

And even with Romney winning Florida — which could easily happen even under completely legitimate circumstances — they have Obama at 285 electoral votes. So come in off the ledge — get out and vote and things will be okay.

Nopantsmcgee November 1, 2012 at 4:04 pm

I know…but if there's a vote -stealin' afoot it's all a fantasy.

But, no, I feel a little better now. You Wonkette Smart asses truly do help .

bikerlaureate November 1, 2012 at 10:56 pm

The more votes we get out, the harder the scumbuckets have to work to steal the show.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 4:07 pm

Keep feeling optimistic. Romney wouldn't be flailing like this if he was confident of winning. Nate Silver says the numbers now give POTUS a 79% chance of winning, and he's running over 50% in state polls.

Didja vote?

larrykat November 1, 2012 at 3:37 pm

We need 12th Amendment remedies.

BaldarTFlagass November 1, 2012 at 3:37 pm

Assume democracy dead.

BumbleKid November 1, 2012 at 3:40 pm

This gives me a sad :(

emmelemm November 1, 2012 at 4:39 pm

Now there is an excellent use of memeage.

HistoriCat November 1, 2012 at 4:57 pm

That is beautiful in a tragic way. Well done.

Zombie_Reagan November 1, 2012 at 3:38 pm

It's always amazing how these "glitches" never seem to occur in say, Orange County, CA or Darien, CT.

FlownOver November 1, 2012 at 3:38 pm

"Surely we won’t screw up the presidential election twice in less than two decades…will we??"

Yes We Can™.

comrad_darkness November 1, 2012 at 3:39 pm

The democracy is dead! Long live the democracy!

freakishlywrong November 1, 2012 at 3:40 pm

Thank Jeebus we have an impartial media that will be all over this shit. (Fuck us).

SmutBoffin November 1, 2012 at 3:40 pm

HELLO I AM A FELLOW CONCERNED CITIZEN AND I AM TOTALLY LIBERAL LIKE YOU BUT THESE ACCUSATIONS ARE FALSE AND BESIDES THE EDITOR LADY IS ON ACID AND GO ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 4:08 pm

She NEVER shares. (sotto voce) bitch.

Ohai, BeccaLou, is that YOU? MY, don't you look nice today. (sidles out of room)

prommie November 1, 2012 at 3:42 pm

Romney said yesterday that on November 7 the country is all gonna come together (and preusmably vote). The news slut on the station I was watching on was visibly disturbed by this and made a big deal of saying "let there be no confusion, election day is the 6th."

Hi, ya'll! Water came to within 3 inches of my floor, ruined all the utilities and ductwork under the house, one totalled car, one sunken boat, 48 hours with no power, 48 hours locked in my blockaded community by police roadblocks and cops saying if I left, I could not come back, but now, well, everything is all, well, not fine. Everything is fucking destroyed. The town I grew up in, Point Pleasant Beach, is fucked, my community now, fucked, everyplace on the prommie-fakakta tour of the shore just a month ago, fucked.

FakaktaSouth November 1, 2012 at 3:49 pm

Ahem, and yet, you are so much better off than so, so many, right? RIGHT? Got gas in 5 minutes, now I presume you have ice? Come on now, be patient, be happy – it's beautiful in Alabama-Heaven today (I am Cindy McCain, catch up). Smile and enjoy your electricity – I know you can do it!

prommie November 1, 2012 at 3:53 pm

I am lucky, I am the luckiest man alive, thanks to you.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 4:11 pm

Hello, beautiful! May I be the millionth to offer up my congratulations?

Wut? It's not like y'all told me nuthin.

prommie November 1, 2012 at 4:23 pm

I tried to! I am still in crying it from the rooftops mode! Calloo, calay!

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 6:01 pm

Slut. You crept into her knickers while the rest of us were still fapping.

Mumbletypeg November 1, 2012 at 3:53 pm

This is gonna be cold comfort I'm sure but there is strange assuagement of worry for me to hear you saying what lots of us were imagining.
Notwithstanding I am a glutton for stories of suffering and enough peeps here have withstood their share so be assured you are in good company, friend. Let it all out. There is no other window on the world like the one you're looking through now.
I'm glad to have a glimpse if it helps take the edge off some of the tedium.

prommie November 1, 2012 at 4:03 pm

I have lost nothing I hadn't already cast aside and moved on from. That may sound strange but its true, I have been for some time just marking time and waiting to change this life I have been living anyway. Its depressing to see the horible damage so many others have suffered. Its sad very sad to see places that are so important in all the memories of my life so destroyed. Its sad even that the places I did just show to Fakakta just days ago, many of those places are now gone, not places anymore. But mostly sad for the others who really are so much worse off than me.

gullywompr November 1, 2012 at 3:55 pm

But is your lighthouse still standing nudge wink?

prommie November 1, 2012 at 4:00 pm

As strongly erect as ever!

BaldarTFlagass November 1, 2012 at 4:02 pm

Aside from that, how did you like the play, Mrs. Lincoln?

Seriously, sorry to hear about your shit sandwich.

prommie November 1, 2012 at 4:27 pm

Its OK. It is. Surreal and strange, I am fine, nothing which matters to me was lost, its sad for those who lost so much more, though. People were walking down my street today with suitcases and even wheelbarrows, refugees, honest to god refugees in the fucking USA. This is what post-Reagan movement conservatism has done to oulr country. I mean this. They aren't gonna drown it in a bathtub, they've almost succeeded in drowning it in a couple of hurricanes.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 4:10 pm

Quitcher bitching, I just found out you and Fakakta are a COUPLE! Of boinkers!

OK, so I'm a bit slow with that "people" shit. But very happy for ya! (Squeezes you mercilessly) You lucky dog.

prommie November 1, 2012 at 4:15 pm

I truly am, so so so lucky.

BaldarTFlagass November 1, 2012 at 4:30 pm

Man, if I had known that Wonkette was a hookup site, I would have chosen a sexier avatar.

HistoriCat November 1, 2012 at 5:00 pm

I'm starting to think Rebecca may be on to something with this Wonkette personals section …

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 6:02 pm

??! I think your av is *tremendously* sexy.

Of course, my tastes *are* a bit outre, I guess.

emmelemm November 1, 2012 at 4:41 pm

Sorry to hear about that. At least, though, you have some internet access and the warm glow of Wonkers. And you survived. It may not be much, but in its way, it's plenty.

Chet Kincaid_ November 1, 2012 at 5:04 pm

Glad to see you online again, Prommie! I was going to inquire about you, but didn't want to busybody. You are alive, the most important thing, but the destruction of all that other stuff really sucks.

tessiee November 1, 2012 at 9:53 pm

Dang, man.
We used to go to Seaside Heights every summer.
You're practically my neighbor.

Lionel[redacted]Esq November 1, 2012 at 3:42 pm

I'm sorry, but I refuse to read or post to any depressing voter suppression/fraud/rat fucking stories unless they are accompany by cute pictures of ponies to make me feel better.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 4:12 pm

Will you accept cute pictures of cats, you lucky dog, you?

emmelemm November 1, 2012 at 4:49 pm

I gotcher PONY right here.

DCBloom November 1, 2012 at 3:47 pm

This is my hometown. My grown kids still live there. Back in 2000, my daughter lived in a predominantly black neighborhood. You would not believe the ratfuckery (stealing that lultzmonger!)

They had weird road construction detours so that you had a hell of a time trying to find the polling place, and then when you got there, they told you to go somewhere else. Took my daughter all day to vote.

This whole thing makes me ill

CommieDad November 1, 2012 at 3:47 pm

As a former computer programmer, I have to ask, WHY THE FUCK DO WE HAVE COMPUTER "GLITCHES" on election machines???? Test. Test. More Test. Verify. Verify. Third party test. Public test. This is the most important part of our democracy, for fuck's sake. Campaigns and the public should be allowed to review the full source code of all parts of a voting machine up to the day of the election, and have the code signed and compared after the election on all voting machines.

gullywompr November 1, 2012 at 3:50 pm

Pfft! Works on my machine.

BoatOfVelociraptors November 1, 2012 at 4:23 pm

Your unit tests are weak, old man.

gullywompr November 1, 2012 at 4:25 pm

They look green to me. Ship it.

Blueb4sinrise November 1, 2012 at 4:00 pm

_Click here to have updates load automatically.

Jukesgrrl November 1, 2012 at 4:01 pm

Dear Sir, that made way too much sense. You're excused.

emmelemm November 1, 2012 at 4:34 pm

I dunno, as a current computer programmer, I must say: we let shit go all the time that's full of fucking bugs. Because we're a small company and our testing department leaves a lot to be desired.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 6:09 pm

We outsourced QA to Russia. They don't work in the summer. A fact of which we were not aware until *after* we announced a July launch date to our customers.

emmelemm November 1, 2012 at 6:21 pm

{Snort}

That's a good one.

(So your QA department was like that credit card commercial, with "Peggy"?)

gullywompr November 1, 2012 at 10:00 pm

Just hire BoatOfVelociraptors to do TDD.

MittBorg November 3, 2012 at 1:05 pm

I've never seen the commercial, not having teh Teevee, but we ended up having to build a firewall inside our firewall so they would stop trying to steal our code. Really interesting people, smart as hell, very funny, a pleasure to work with so long as you didn't think about what-all they were up to. However, it was not a "successful outsourcing." BWAHAHA.

Pithaughn November 1, 2012 at 3:49 pm

oh, I expect Barry's lawyers will approach this battle like a , well a battle. I am sure the lesson was learned back in 2000. What is still a wonder is why Boies thought playing by the rules would prevail against gangsters.

Disassembly November 1, 2012 at 3:56 pm

What's this about voting machines? I thought Florida still allocated its electoral votes by putting the candidates on a Denny's menu and having Grandma point at the one she wants.

HouseOfTheBlueLights November 1, 2012 at 4:00 pm

Well, we screwed up the 2008 election by allowing a black man to run, so this is just a "course correction."

kangod59 November 1, 2012 at 4:04 pm

Kiss Florida goodbye. The pubs are getting better at stealing elections.

cousinitt November 1, 2012 at 4:11 pm

What's that? Yes, that's right this is the Amistad. What, you say you didn't book a place on this boat? You…you would like to leave now. I see, little late now. Probably just a glitch. No worries, enjoy our shipboard amenities and enjoy your cruise. Hey, just consider this your opportunity to make lemonade!

LibertyLover November 1, 2012 at 4:15 pm

Huh. They must be using the same math that Karl Rove uses.

LibertyLover November 1, 2012 at 4:20 pm

Tell me again why private companies are allowed ownership of voting machines?

BoatOfVelociraptors November 1, 2012 at 4:24 pm

2. ????
3. Profit!

Negropolis November 2, 2012 at 12:56 am

Truly, the Mormon Underpants Gnomes plan for stealing elections.

tessiee November 1, 2012 at 9:56 pm

Not to mention members of the candidate's immediate family, also too?

Jerri November 1, 2012 at 4:47 pm

I'm calling Florida for Buchanan right now. Look out, Nate Silver!

emmabee November 1, 2012 at 4:50 pm

So 536 votes havealready been lost in Florida and the 2000 election was lost by 537 votes. In Florida.I hope the Barry Bamz attorneys are already working on this.

IndianaKevin November 1, 2012 at 4:54 pm

The "glitch" was that the e-voting machines didn't secretly, silently flip votes as they were supposed to do. I suspect many teens could have better success if told "we want X percent of votes to change from A to B" as a function of the programming, and it must be untraceable." Instead, the Keystone Krooks are running the election.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 6:03 pm

Anonymous is watching.

IndianaKevin November 3, 2012 at 11:41 am

That makes me happy. Long live Anonymous!

MittBorg November 3, 2012 at 12:54 pm

Me too.

BoroPrimorac November 1, 2012 at 4:56 pm

You know what else they're doing to voters in Broward county, Flo-Rida? Some Romney supporters (white assholes) think it's a good to enforce their tow away zones and tow away the cars of people waiting in line to vote early. With the $150 it costs to take a car out of an impound lot, you can bet your ass that these people will never turn out to vote again.

VinnyThePooh November 1, 2012 at 5:57 pm

I cast my early vote in Broward County yesterday. A quick scan of the folks in line was comforting and I actually felt the nervousness emanating from Repugnants.

emmelemm November 1, 2012 at 6:17 pm

Bless you and your little cranky ginger kitty. Thanks for the report.

mormos November 1, 2012 at 6:56 pm

To say surely we won't screw up the election twice in 20 years implies it was a screw up either time.

ttommyunger November 1, 2012 at 7:00 pm

It's not going to be easy, stealing an Electoral Landslide, but they are going to give it a growl. Sadly, if they succeed, there will be a general uproar for a month or so, then back to the tee-vee machine, beer and cheetos.

tessiee November 1, 2012 at 9:31 pm

For those who may be interested, there is an online petition requesting that the U.N. monitor the election:
http://signon.org/sign/ask-the-un-to-monitor.fb23

tessiee November 1, 2012 at 9:43 pm

Good news, everyone:

"UAW Files Charges Against Romney on his Auto Bail-out Profiteering: For Mitt Romney, it's one scary Halloween. The Presidential candidate has just learned that tomorrow afternoon he will charged with violating the federal Ethics in Government law by improperly concealing his multi-million dollar windfall from the auto industry bail-out."

ARTICLE 1: http://www.uaw.org/articles/unions-good-governmen

ARTICLE2: http://www.thenation.com/article/170644/mitt-romn

ARTICLE 3: http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=33e4ec877eed6

ARTICLE 3: http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/ite

ARTICLE 4: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/mitt-rom

ARTICLE 5: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/01/mitt-rom

VIDEO: http://www.thenation.com/blog/170662/greg-palast-

emmelemm November 1, 2012 at 9:57 pm

Good on 'em.

A tiny chip away at "IOKIYAR".

Negropolis November 2, 2012 at 12:57 am

WOW.

IndianaKevin November 3, 2012 at 11:47 am

I did a search after seeing this reported elsewhere, and didn't find it in mainstream network news. A few individual papers and a number of overseas outlets, but it wasn't newsworthy in The Land of the Free and the Home of The First Amendment.

MittBorg November 3, 2012 at 12:54 pm

(Kisses tessiee on both cheeks) Mwah! Such a sweetie you are, bringing rays of light and HOPE. I hope they throw the fucking book at him.

Biel_ze_Bubba November 1, 2012 at 11:19 pm

Facts have a liberal bias, glitches have a conservative bias.
See, it all works out in the end.

Negropolis November 2, 2012 at 12:31 am

Can't they just say that an alligator ate their ballots? I mean, this is Southern Florida we're talking about, which is weird as hell.

Negropolis November 2, 2012 at 12:46 am

BTW, for all of you panicking, the president doesn't even need Florida to win just to show you how far Romney is behind in the EC. So, chill out. Well, work your asses of those of you who live in Florida, but be as far away from dispair as you can put yourself, because it's not the end of Obama's road if he doesn't win Florida. Now, if something happens to send Ohio into a snit in the next few days, THEN you cnan panic.

LibrarianX November 2, 2012 at 1:09 am

Black people voting for Obama? Creates a black hole. Naturally. Stuff disappears.

LibrarianX November 2, 2012 at 12:52 pm

Event horizon? Anyone…?

Franknflower November 2, 2012 at 5:34 pm

In Bizaro World, Fox News is running a headline story on how Ohio votes for Mitt are being switched to Obama.

MittBorg November 3, 2012 at 12:56 pm

HAHAHAHA. Oh, dear. Is it unseemly to gloat?

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 5:58 pm

I'm going insane. If this election isn't over soon, I may have to chew my leg off to get away …

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 6:07 pm

Good advice! After all, I finally have Wonketz back (the servers seemed to be down all day yesterday; where's your server farm, BeccaLou, in HAITI?), and even RawStory is working, even if Twitter is in snail mode.

Biff November 1, 2012 at 6:13 pm

I'm painting a shed I built this fall. Can't escape the politics though, got XM Left on the radio…

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 6:19 pm

I'd paint a shed if I could stand up, goddammit. Oh, well. Doctor tomorrow. (shuffles off)

mayor_quimby November 1, 2012 at 8:46 pm

Biff, do you listen to Stand Up with Pete Dominick on XM POTUS? I love that show, in spite of the righties who are on there sometimes. It's just refreshing to hear partisan arguments without yelling. It has kept me sane when even NPR treats bullshit as 'reasoned argument' .

natl_[redacted]_cmdr November 1, 2012 at 7:10 pm

No worries, Kitteh. I found it all rather amusing.

Biff November 1, 2012 at 7:12 pm

I could've used some ground-level help today! Good luck tomorrow…

Biff November 1, 2012 at 8:55 pm

I haven't yet, but now I will, thanks!

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 10:15 pm

Actually, that was *Ryan's* rally in WI. In his own damn state, he couldn't get more than 600 ppl to show.

tessiee November 1, 2012 at 10:31 pm

I was being facetious, Cute Stuff.
There was a very well attended *Obama* rally in Waterfront Park, here in Portland, which got erroneously labeled as a Romney rally. I was referring to that.

MittBorg November 1, 2012 at 11:19 pm

Well, THEN! (squeezes you)

I gotta unlax, kiddo. This election's got me leaping around screaming like the victim of an Anal Pear.

zumpie November 3, 2012 at 6:51 pm

tessiee, I didn't know that you're in PDX, too!!!

natl_[redacted]_cmdr November 2, 2012 at 12:05 am

[hugs]

[hugs]

[hugs some more]

MittBorg November 2, 2012 at 12:56 am

Cho CHWEET!! As Salman Rushdie might have said.

(Hugs you with the squeezes of squeezing)

MittBorg November 2, 2012 at 12:58 am

Sorry! I took a pill. Them Flexeril thangs are STRONG.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr November 2, 2012 at 1:02 am

thank you sweetheart. i love your squeezings and am squeezing back + kisses.

Biff November 2, 2012 at 1:24 am

I like the Baclofen, myself, but glad you found some relief!

MittBorg November 2, 2012 at 11:19 pm

Yaknow? I just want to slap those schlubs unconscious. Give 'em the flat of my hand, as Dad would say. He's the fucking President, ya fucking bozos. Stop treating him like some Trayvon Martin in high school wearing a fucking hoodie.

MittBorg November 3, 2012 at 1:06 pm

If I had half a chance to, I would. He's probably too busy developing code to take over all our lives and harvest us for organs, though, so …

MittBorg November 3, 2012 at 1:10 pm

Happy to hear that, Trinket, and here's a welcoming hug! (Hugs Trinket)

zumpie November 3, 2012 at 6:52 pm

1) Exactly

2) Even if he were Trayvon Martin in a hoodie, they shouldn't treat anyone like that

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