Hey fellow(ette) mom-bloggers! Has someone somewhere suggested that we have hormones, and they sometimes cause us to react or overreact or under-react differently at different times? Would you perhaps like to read a perfectly reasonable piece about some science that may or may not be flawed and then BLOW THE FUCK UP AT THE MESSENGER like a crack mom screaming at the neighbor kids that she’s about to loose her fuckin’ Rottweiler on ‘em?* Well, CNN reported on a new study today, in a totally fair blog post that succinctly explained the study’s myriad blind spots, and now the Ladiez of Twitter — ladies we honestly admire! — have gone totally raggo.
First, there is absolutely nothing in the CNN piece on Kristina Durante’s study on voting and ovulation that suggests that women are weak little creatures who need to be protected from themselves, or that they are slave to all that estrogen coursing through their silly brainplaces. It doesn’t say their ovulation makes them change their minds about their political beliefs or leanings. What the study shows is that women become firmer in their commitments to vote for their preferred candidate when they’re ovulating. If they’re liberal, they become more focused on voting for their liberal candidate. If they’re conservative, they become more committed to picketing abortion clinics for Rick Santorum. As CNN points out, a flaw of the study is that it doesn’t research men’s hormones, making it sound like women are more addlepated when in fact we all have chemicals turning us occasionally Bachmannite crazy. Suggesting that CNN is an asshole that needs boycotting because it reported on a new study seems to us … well, sort of reactionary and Bachmannite crazy!
One thing that people on Twitter especially have been focusing on is the perhaps inelegantly worded supposition that because women “feel sexier” when they are ovulating (which is perfectly true and presumably isn’t controversial) … well, something something something. See, that part of the study wasn’t actually science; it was the author’s supposition on why women reported being more committed to their candidates, and it wasn’t that clear and didn’t make much sense. If any of the ladies who are so mad about the piece have alternate theories on why women are over 20 percent more committed to voting for their preferred candidates during ovulation, they would probably be very interesting, and we would like to hear them!
(Ours is that since, yes, women feel sexier while ovulating, that translates to an increase in almost romantic affection for the people we’ve chosen to be our leaders, whether they’re alpha male or alpha female. Think how you feel about Barry or Hillz Clinton or Old Handsome Joe. Now think about how you feel about them on those days you just happen to feel like wearing a lot of jewelry, makeup, skirts and tank tops for no reason at all except you’re feeling kind of “kicky”! The author’s supposition — that liberal women ovulating want more gay marriage and birth control, and conservative women ovulating need to sublimate their desire to fuck any and everyone by voting to put a conservative patriarch in place to restrain themselves — seems … half-baked. But STILL NOT OFFENSIVE.)
Yesterday, we got in trouble on Twitter for suggesting that a dude who was being bizarrely aggressive to us for SRSLY no reason at all was “on the rag.” He did not take kindly to our “selling out our gender” for a “zinger.” But of course we meant it gender-neutrally. Men have hormones too, and those hormones sometimes make them GIANT AGGRESSIVE ASSHOLES who are calling you “dumb and angry” for joking at them about fucking POGUES SONGS FOR CHRIST’S SAKE. And you know what else? PMS exists. We have it on excellent authority. (Lindy West. And us.)
Nothing in CNN’s post was worthy of scorn, and the study itself is interesting science, even if the author’s conclusions may not have been actually borne out by the results she published. Ladies, ladies! Calm the fuck down! Leave the anti-science fol-de-rol for for the House Science Committee, where it belongs.
*How we know to send the kid to the corner store for Maxi Giants, and how he knows to do so without bitching lest we punch him in his stupid fucking face.
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I am unqualified to comment.
Finally, a smart answer.
NEVER stops me
That has to be a first on the intertubes, irregardless of the topic.
You don't seem to understand how the Internet works, son.
This just lays the groundwork for Romney's "multiple wives" policy announcement in 2014.
BLOOD LIBEL!
Rottie libel
Crotch rottie
Technically, it's Shed Uterine Wall Lining Libel, but who's counting?
ENDOMETRIAL SLOUGH LIBEL!
Sexist! For the sake of gender equality I demand SMEGMA LIBEL!
I've been to Slough. It's a little ways outside Heathrow.
Hey, me too. Were you working for Amazon?
The women who are upset are on the rag, obviously.
Appears that some people are on their period….
Those gals would be a lot happier if they spent less time reading CNN and more time making sandwiches.
Ironically, this is true.
sandwiches? Am I not supposed to be making sammiches?
Where you been?
I needed to take a mental health break from following political news, it was just too goddamned depressing and frustrating.
But you're back two weeks before the erection?
Fucking women, how do they work?
77 cents for every dollar.
at least 20 hours a day
With or without a wringer washer?
A series of tubes, I believe.
Even Ted Stevens would appreciate that joke.
…I believe Socrates and Plato asked this exact same question
As did the other great Greek philosophers, Sophocles, Pericles and Testicles.
And the great Roman playwright, Biggus Dickus.
I'd comment, but I'm on the rag at the moment, and I'm afraid I might not be able to temper my sentiments.
Just don't vote for Romney while you are temporarily infected.
I'm menstruating, not brain-damaged.
I don't know. Newt Gingrich insisted your kind was no good in the military because you were getting infected every month. I just think it sounds yucky.
Uh … (backs away) I b'leev "temper" is kinda wut the Editrix seems to be implying alla y'all's sentiments might be at right now. (runs out of the room)
I am spending too much time on this site, because apparently our cycles are syncing.
It's great to get reminders that I can't stand the social justice warrior crowd almost as much as I can't stand the wingnuts, so I can at least kind of feel "non-partisan" or whatever.
How do they vote when they're clutching an aspirin between their knees?
We vote against the men that suggested we put an aspirin between our knees.
Edit: Or just punch them in the gonads.
With a lever.
Painlessly?
Very gingerly.
Just like Christy Brown, author of My Left Foot did, with his mouth.
Absentee. So the Man of the House can fill it out for them & they never have to bother their pretty lil' heads about any of it.
Do some voting days not feel as fresh as other voting days? Just pull the string.I mean lever,and new Vagivote will help.
I got no comment on the subject, but that earring is killah. It's from someone's Etsy store, right?
Damn the post!
What the hell is that a picture of?!
(I think I'm gonna be sick.)
There is no such thing as being "on the rag," women. What you are actually doing is killing a potential zygote!
Probably with God's permission.
Part of "God's Plan"?
God has a plan? Sumbitch never even SHOWED it to us!
It's on a "need to know" basis.
And here I thought that was the Cylons.
And this is exactly why Mittens has never showed us HIS plan. If it's good enough for God, it's good enough for Rmoney.
You see, he doesn't need to show it to You People…
Snark away, but you know some tea-baggy closet case is writing up the legislation right now.
I'll bet if I googled it, (I won't), I could find it.
What does Sarah Palin have to say about this?
Dude, you are talking about somebody who (supposedly?) had a kid at 44! I don't think she knows how this shit works.
Do not invoke th……..aaarrrrrhhhhhle bbbaaaarrrrggghhhle
Gem? Gem? WHERE ARE YOU?
Tard and feted?
Hee, hee.
Sarah, like all Alaskan women, does not menstruate as defense against bears. Or maybe it is just the meth.
Depends on what time of the month you ask.
Same thing she has to say about everything:
"Me! Me! Me! Look at Me! Me! Me! Pay attention to Me! Me! Me!…"
This deserves more upfists, because of truth.
Hormones, ovulation and PMS are terms that are unfamiliar to me. Could you come back and explain what they mean after you make me a sammitch? Attagirl.
Those terms are unfamiliar to conservatives also too, that's why they just want all the womens to lay back and close their eyes.
Man Coulter has never had that problem.
Men have hormones too, and those hormones sometimes make them GIANT AGGRESSIVE ASSHOLES…
So THAT's Paul Ryan's Problem…
Pity. Testosterone poisoning.
Paul would be an asshole even if he were a eunuch.
Teabagger earrings.
Damn honey, you look great today. Would like to go out to dinner and maybe have magnum of red wine to help ease your tense mood.
gtfo….grrrrrr
You're married, I can tell.
I usually have some chocolate hidden away for those days.
I thought it might show, but wine by the case is a wise move.
Hahaha, yes. I know this for a fact.
Last time my husband pulled that stunt I was ovulating (so cranky for no fucking scientific reason), and three glasses of wine later, here I am with a fetal occupant. Fucking men.
And thus the method to the madness is exposed.
What, another one? Does Wonkette have pregnancy-enhancing powers?
Seems like one or the other of our ladies is "falling pregnant" every other day around here.
Two things are never fail cramps medicine; one is blackberry brandy, and the other one is weed.
Not to be pushy, or nothin', but I have both. (leers helpfully at tessiee)
Oh for bloody hell.
Needs less ovulation and moar contraception.
Men don't want to examine the science on what cranky, tubby, couch-potato whiners we become when our testosterone is low, so let's take the vote away from those hysterical women.
Or the science on what aggressive, confrontational, prone-to-violence-near-psychopaths we are when it is not.
You know, the more I think about it, the Low Testosterone Middle-Aged Male is the Republican Base!
Maybe that also explains the tendency towards chicken hawk.
All them chicken wings.
Let's you and ALL OF 'EM fight! I'll hold your coats.
Young men are more likely to kill, rape or commit any number of horrible crimes, but it's women, with their crazy hormones, who are out of control.
I like you, Chet. When the Menstrual Army marches, I will make sure that you and yours are spared.
I for one welcome our new Vaginal Overlords!
I like the sound of that. And the mental image.
Periods are not a mystery. What's a fucking mystery is the combination of hormones that makes a person think it's perfectly reasonable to stop in a doorway at Target and have a conversation on their cell phone. I'd push the morons out into the street except the cars for some mysterious reason all stop at that crosswalk. It's a perfect storm of stupidity and reasonableness, all designed specifically to annoy me.
We get those in NYC on occasion: dolts who stop to yakk right on the fucking subway station stairs. After we trample them, they learn.
Yes. Step right on their stupid talky face.
I saw a study years ago about where people stop to have conversations. It's usually in traffic compression points, street corners, doorways, stairs, etc. Who knows why?
Best (worst?) example I ever saw was in the Five-Boro Bike Tour a while back. Due to construction, the route was compressed to a 12-foot wide pathway as we exited the Gowanus Expressway. Thirty thousand riders are trying to squeeze through, and guess where two nitwits decided to stop and yammer? These two inconsiderate dolts created an epic, 2-hour jam.
Probably the same reason my wife always leaves the vacuum cleaner in the middle of the doorway.
The ones I really can't stand are the ones who sail right through the stop sign, yakking away — and yes, it is illegal here to talk on a cell phone while driving, but that doesn't stop them.
It doesn't require cell phones. Consider how many people stop to regroup at the end of a fucking escalator.
…I have found that a good sharp forearm to the back of the neck is excellent remedy for this!
Women,always thinking with they're twats.Sound familar?
How do you make a hormone?…
Okay, I had to take the bait, don't pay her.
Tell it a terrible pun, apparently.
Don't pay her!
I'll be here all week.
And I offer to you the question: How is babby formed?
I was going to say something something Benghazi jive.
Pick her up in a Gland Rover!
(I know I used this before, but I like it)
It's terrible! (hugs you)
Play the whore-monica? Oops, that was meant for the Bill Clinton thread.
Kick her off of "Dancing With the Stars" and send her back to Arizona?
Put her on Fox.
So when are the pollsters going to take the McClintock Effect into account?
Why do you think they are doing this "study". In the next election cycle the pollsters will be selling the candidates polling data that project which hygiene products women from each party prefer, track the sale of those products, and suggest the voting trends from all this hocus pocus, all for mega millions. The electoral process is out of control. It needs to be reduced to two months, one for each side to have a primary and one for a general election.
"Menstrual Synchrony" was perhaps the finest Police album.
Those days when I "just happen to feel like wearing a lot of jewelry, makeup, skirts and tank tops" are teh days when I tend to stay indoors, for the good of all humanity.
… and Kid Zoom, too, I would imagine.
So that *wasn't* you on the "People of WalMart" site, then.
You sense their power but they deny you their essence.
Lana Wachowski, is that you?!
What's next , CNN — Doctor Oz on the influence of homeopathy on ambidextrous Starbucks moms?
As CNN points out, a flaw of the study is that it doesn’t research men’s hormones
So, it violates a basic scientific principle…which might just suggest that it isn't worthy of being covered in the news, perhaps?
Fuck you, CNN.
Back in the misty depths of time, when docterry was in grad school, it was noted that much psychology research conducted on male samples was routinely generalized to apply to men and women, while research conducted on female samples was only generalized to women. The more things change…
So that guy from the earlier post was just hormonal when he yelled "NO ONE OWNS THAT DOOR"?
Doubly so, if we count alcohol as a hormone.
"It's a notion whose only point is to delegitimize women's actual complaints and reduce us, yet again, to our stupid, stupid genitals."
An aside: I consider my genitals to be intellectually rather neutral. Main point: suggesting that I am (as a female) more ruled by my genitals than all the men I have ever known? There aren't enough chairs in the world for me to fall out of, laughing.
I think you win the internets today.
I think this is the reasoning that prompted them to deny us the vote in the first place. Along with the right to own property and other basic things. Hysterical women.
It wasn't their fault your wombs would just get up and wander around your bodies like a lost child with his Daddy's credit card.
Now, now. Everyone knows that men are paragons of reason.
"I am (as a female)"
I always thought you were a guy person, but I guess I should have known better, since your avatar is a beaver.
As a man, I also consider my genitals to be intellectually neutral, as in "lacking any intellectual traction". At almost 65, I'm pretty sure I would do, say, LiLo, if given the chance.
Subsequently, my brain would be embarrassed, but my balls would probably be high-fiving each other.
Sorry. We men have this hormone problem, you see…..
…my penis has got me into many problems and I have medical bills, arrest record and plenty of psycho exes to prove it!
My brain says to vote for this guy,but my Vagina's leaning the other way?
This may help!? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/g-shot-g…
What a shithole HuffPo has become. It's sad.
shithole
Wrong injection direction, dude!
Must have a lot of free time in her molti palazzi.
I think that's some sort of medical condition when the vagina takes up yoga all on its own and assumes unlikely positions.
This is what happens when you let them write about science. You know, the morons.
I am not wearing these tank tops to be "kicky" I am wearing multiple layers because I can't control my body temperature whether I am ovulating or not.
tits (if you are ovulating) or GTFO
Romney is a bigger beyotch than I have ever been while bleeding or ovulating and there aren't enough hormones in the world to make me "pull his lever" come Election Day.
Although I bet $10,000 you'd "pull his lever" if it was attached to a tow truck and you were sitting at the wheel.
With votes, of course.
Middle Eastern women feel sexier when they're ululating.
Needz moar knitted vaginas.
Uh … that shade of pink … (quease)
I call it "internal organ pink" (faint)
For less patient souls, an origami vagina is quicker… http://www.drunk-fu.com/money/xxx/xxx/vagina01.ht…
That's really kinda nice.
If I knew you could knit vaginas when I was 16, I'd probably be a competitive knitter by now.
knitted vaginas is my favorite riot grrrl cover band
I'll see your knitted vagina and raise you a nipple baby hat:
http://www.nursingbraexpress.com/baby-nipple-hat/…
Noting that female physiology can sometimes be a factor in decision making is not really a groundbreaking revelation. Speaking as a man, there have been many nights when my dick did all the thinking.
Sometimes it's the only thing that's thinking. Regrettably.
Hence the long popularity of Sarah Palin with the righties.
Ha-HA!
Best explanation I have heard in four long years.
Add Michele Bachmann, Ann Coulter, Megyn Kelly, Laura Ingraham, Gretchen Carlson, et al, to that list.
Ladies, ladies, calm down! If you're all busy blowing up the intertubes over this stuff, how will you have time to get home and cook a nice dinner for your husbands?
HAHAHAHA … is it safe to laugh at this?
It will be when Mittens allows more flextime so's women can go home to care for their famblies.
Not if they come home while we're laughing our asses off at them. That's not safe AT ALL.
Which is ironic, because all of the kids will be working their janitorial jobs at school late into the evening, and the husbands will be working their second or third part-time job at night.
Republican family values at work.
If not here, then where? This. Is. WONKETTE!
Men run screaming from tampon-filled toilets like babies, and I want to stand up and say "I MADE THIS."
We could rule the world with only a mere suggestion of cramps and clots, but NOOoooOOOOOOO.
Maybe they're just thinking of the plumber's bill? Oh, I get it, you want an excuse to call that sexy plumber over…
Fuck Code Pink. My army will turn the streets red 5-6 days every month until you meet our list of demands.
(faints again)
Not just that, when I was breast-feeding my baby my (extremely disgusting) brother made the HUGE mistake of saying: "ooo, gross!"
I raced around the house squirting him in the face with boobs full of breast milk. You would have thought it was acid.
After years of torture, he was finally brought down by breast milk!!
Good for you. Women: These tools we have are not weaknesses to be hidden away. Weaponize your shit and we can change the world!
Men learned how to weaponize their shit ages ago. It's like fucking Normandy in that john.
There's enough material there for an entire conference.
"'Tampon-Filled Toilets"? That's dangerous!
Well, our toilet went crazy yesterday afternoon
The plumber he says, “Never flush a tampoon”
This great information cost me half a weeks pay
and the toilet blew up later on the next day
Blew up the next day. Dayy-yay. Yaay-ay-ayyye. Booooom!
No wonder they're running away.
Sometimes you eat the bidet and sometimes it eats you.
But the ducks get you in the end.
This is a reply to this entire subthread.
You all are even weirder than I thought.
Congratulations.
"…when in fact we all have chemicals turning us occasionally Bachmannite crazy. "
Nope. Even in my wildest acid-fuelled delirium, I have NEVER been Bachmannite crazy.
I assume you experienced generally less auditory and visual hallucinations as Bachmann during the same time-period also.
There was that one time when I mixed tequila and mushrooms…
Women, can't live with them, can't get them to dress up in tight, leather Nazi outfits.
–Emo Philips.
You can if you pay them enough!
What's the going price?
Whore Diamonds: All of them, Lionel.
Sez him.
Limey Lizzie libel!
I believe my friend Lizzie requires the gentleman to dress up in the Nazi outfit, unless you're a Negro Airman or a Rugged Jewish Partisan.
Men: can't live with them, can't do most positions without them.
I feel like I've walked in on a semi-private conversation I wasn't meant to hear. lol
If only more men felt that way, there would be no "bronies".
Trixie had a Twitter fight with Mobutu Sese Seko, who was actually being kind of a dick. Could happen to anyone, I guess.
Yeah, when all the LayDeez get together and start talking that girl-talk. That's when they send you out to mix the drinks so you won't hear any of it.
Trust me, I think with my vagina far less than most men think with their penises.
See, that's the problem with you women, you only have one head to think with.
so you think with your vagina,some?
Spoiler – it's not really what you'd call "thinking".
Well, yes, but our penises think mostly about your vaginas. Surely that counts for something.
I'm unsurprised, but kind of saddened, to hear that.
"A woman's vagina is always right", right "happily" married guys?
Is it physically possible to be less likely for me to vote for Romney? This really is news!
♪ As loud as hell/ A ringing bell
Behind my smile/ It shakes my teeth ♫
.
Tintabulation.
Love that song!
You can tell a man made this study (because it is not a delicious turkey dinner).
Who got their earrings from the gals at Barbie Army?
Regretsy.
If only ONE woman could get into a Congressional hearing about reproductive rights, and yank a Heavy Day out of her cooter, and swing it over her head like a lasso, it would be game fuckin' over. "I made this and I do it monthly. And I live. When you can do that, we'll talk." Case closed. Everyone would run and never discuss things again.
This is the precise reason that I watch CSPAN.
I like the cut of your jib!
I built it!
Comment of the…. forever.
She's swingin' a sponge on the end of a string.
She's not Bad, she's just Genetically Mean. Dirty Blue Gene.
The Pogues are NOT TO BE JOKED ABOUT, GODDAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The who?
OT: Do you have any further posts up for tonight?
Not I; I am allegedly "at work" tonight.
"rum, sodomy, and the snark" would be a tremendous motto for wonkette.
Agreed 100%.
Seriously, don't joke about the Pogues. They'll take you out into the street, kick you in the Brains. But, you can go right through the revolving door and do it all again.
'Course, if you drop a button in the plate and Spew Up in the Church, you're on your own.
Are you and Goonemeritus dating now?!
Oh, ladies, can't you just stay in your binders and wait until you're called?
CNN at least isn't as bad as Murdock, I guess. That's the best praise I can give CNN anymore, it's sad.
Laurie Anderson would like to have a word with CNN.
Hello? Is anybody home? Well, you don't know me,
but I know you.
And I've got a message to give to you.
Here come the planes.
So you better get ready. Ready to go. You can come
as you are, but pay as you go. Pay as you go.
– from O Superman
I came home today
And both our cars were gone.
And there were all these new pink flamingoes
arranged in star patterns
All over the lawn.
Then I went into the kitchen
And it looked like a tornado had hit.
And then I realized
I was in the wrong house.
wow, you read my mind.
This post proves it, if it ever were in doubt: the Editrix is a goddess.
On the other hands, people are much less likely to vote Republican when they go back on their meds.
Which they won't be able to afford if Romney is elected.
Let's hope there are a lot of women who listen to the girl down stairs.Remember "Once you go Barack you never go back."
this is off-topic but I love it. it is 1) a genteel savaging of ann coulter; 2) a defense of the president; and 3) a heartfelt description of what it's like to have a mental disability.
http://specialolympicsblog.wordpress.com/2012/10/…
I just heard this guy interviewed on CBC. He is amazing.
He misspelled "snarky".
Yes, he did. And?
I was aiming for meta. Did I miss?
Only with dumbshits like me.
Awesome!
Although I disagree with one point; Ann is both dumb and shallow.
Wonderfully written piece.
Also amusing, the people in the comments thinking it was Ann Romney who tweeted it.
I vote with my penis that’s why I have been writing in Diana Rigg since I went through puberty.
She's who I want to be when I grow up! Go Emma Peel!!
Your voting booth must be a lot more private than mine.
If you can write her in with your penis, then I'll really be impressed.
This is all because Eve ate that apple.
Or as Mitt would say, "a choice daughter of God." I knew her once (Riviera, picnic, lightning storm, no need for cremation) and she was indeed choice.
Hotel Riviera, La Habana, Malecón?
Dear Edrix the Pogues are no laughing matter. If all the world was turned to rubble and mankind was only left with a Walkman a couple of Pogues tapes and some batteries culture would survive.
Diana Rigg? Walkman? Tapes? Relics of a simpler time long gone by, my friend.
Are you and Doktor Zoom dating now?!
Must be summer in Siam.
When I'm ovulating I feel confident, energetic, focused — in short, I feel ON. This makes me sexier I'm sure, but I certainly wouldn't interpret these results as "feeling sexy" being the reason a woman is so much more strident in support of her cause. Because they have the hots for their candidate or whatever?… that's just dumb. But damn, when I'm ovulating I feel great, like I can take on the world. So that would increase my whatever thing I'm doing or into by a good 20%, sure.
Ovulating sounds like an awesome high! What's it run by the ounce? Can you snort it?
Got to be careful they don't cut it with powdered eggs. Those things are killer.
Lucky you!
I just have killer mittle schmertz.
(Menopause can't come fast enough for me.)
OMG me too and I'm only 31.
So… Are you doing anything tomorrow night?
But of course we meant it gender-neutrally.
Could Palin have meant "shuck and jive" race-neutrally? I don't think so, cause the phrase is not race neutral. Same thing with "on the rag," so it's not a good excuse.
I think what you said on Twitter is fine and funny and needs no apology. Women can say "on the rag" the same way blacks can call each other ni-clangs (though there are parallel arguments why both should be avoided). The guy who called you on it was grasping at straws, assholishly, and a simple "fuck you" was in order.
/nosnark
Buttsechs, also.
And BALLS.
CertrainlyNotNews at its best.
I think my wife's on the rag right now, what with the slamming things and complaining about messes and children not eating all their dinner… do you think she'd go to the neighbors' houses and force them to vote for Obama?
If you suggest it gently, perhaps.
I'm avoiding direct eye contact right now, but I'll try to whisper it into her ear when she falls asleep – suggestion! Still, if she wakes up when I'm that close to her face, I'll probably end up like that orderly from "Silence of the Lambs".
Too funny. I'm reading the book right now. Seen the movie a ton of times. And what gets left out from the book — it's like reading 'fan fiction' except, it's original?
It's such a good movie, that the book just fleshes out the movie – as opposed to the usual, being really disappointed in a movie compared to the book. I should read "Hannibal", as it's one the wife and I watched about 50 times. We didn't have cable for a year and would watch Hannibal and Red Dragon over and over again. That culminated in the release of the last movie ("Hannibal Rising"??) – and it sucked so bad we stopped watching all of them suddenly. High Hopes dashed.
Make sure you give her LOTS of wine and chocolate before the evening is through. Your life may depend on it.
Right. Totally unreasonable to get annoyed with CNN, since they are required to report on every dipshit questionable study that comes down the pike. Clearly they had no other option.
I don't think the study's stupid at all! I don't think her conclusions are correct, but a correlation that big should be studied, it seems to me.
I'm generally dubious of any study that attempts to measure peoples' feelings, but I agree with you that this one was reported pretty neutrally. I also agree that speculation about causation is very premature.
Some enterprising woman would should get some red food coloring and maxi pads, apply the dye and stick the pads on every door knob at CNN. Especially exits. And then yank an alarm.
Looovvve it.
Especially one by an Assistant Prof in a Department of Marketing. She's appeared before on CNN Health, last time with a paper showing that women buy sexier clothes when they're ovulating. I think she's found a good gig, which may help her come tenure time at the U of the Alamo. More power to her, I say.
1. I luv wimminz
2. http://bit.ly/rOZWvJ
3. I really luv wimminz
Is that what you say, or is that what they say?
Ah, but there is a male equivalent: http://nyti.ms/PRenEL testosterone slumps when a male's candidate's loses/.
"men who had voted for the losing presidential candidate, John McCain, suffered a big drop in their testosterone after hearing of his defeat.
"The scientists reported that the male McCain voters “felt significantly more controlled, submissive, unhappy and unpleasant.” The testosterone effect was “as if they directly engaged head-to-head in a contest for dominance” and lost, one researcher told a reporter when the study was published in 2009. The men who voted for Obama fared better. The researchers speculated that there might be an Obama baby boom."
– especially if all those Obama women (that's you Benincasa) were ovulating at the same time.
That link is so hurtful and demeaning!!
Man, I can't wait until November, when all of their already-shrunken junk just lets out one last little deflating balloon squeak and drops right off.
RELEASE THE CATS!
If for no other reason than how funny it would be to watch a bunch of cats racing around the kitchen floor, frantically batting those things around, like they do with the piece of plastic that hold the cap on the milk bottle.
Organizing for America would not have to worry about turn out if more liberals knew about this study.
If they also told the wingnuts, they would just stay home & not vote, because science.
There will be bar fights and Viagra popping.
I shudder to think how women going through menopause vote. If I had gone canvassing back in those days, I would've been hauled to jail for punching anyone who self-identified as Republican right in the nose.
Yep.
My mom pulled a big heavy closet door right off its track, (cause I hadn't picked up my clothes). She then proceeded to beat the metal clothesline pole with a stick of wood.
Good times!
Well, now… is somebody having a Midlife Crisis?
MODERATION? WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING HERE?
Woah! That hasn't happened to me – yet. I.D. must be Getting Weird again. I think that happens when too many people get on their servers or something.
My post that got sent to the Naughty Room earlier wasn't even Naughty or contained any Forbidden Words or elements therof.
It's just frustrating to have to pay the penalty of Naughtiness without the benefit of actually being Naughty.
My bad- somehow I got signed into ID with my Wordpress user name & I didn't notice. Oops!
Well that makes sense! I.D. really does some odd things, though.
Yes, so I was a little too quick to assume that it was something they screwed up. But it's never happened before & now I can't sign in using my Wordpress user name to go delete the comments I made…
Verlander & I aren't having such a great evening…
I had one yanked, even though all it did was make fun of Donald Trump for going bankrupt.
Go figure.
Perhaps the 'Cyber Pearl Harbor' begins with Intense Debate.
Perhaps you're right. This is where the Cephalopocalypse is starting, after all.
If I've inadvertently started WWII, I would like to take a moment to say that I'm really, really sorry.
Oh, no – you're OK. Nothing's started. Yet.
When Our Cephalopod Overlords do arrive, it will be obvious.
I, for one, will welcome our Cephalopod Overlords.
(I live near the coast, so I feel the need to play it safe.)
WWII was quite a while ago, but look on the bright side; you *may* have inadvertently started WWIII.
Couldn't we just pretend that I typed WWIII like I meant to?
But if this DOES turn out to be Obama's October Surprise, I hope he handles it as well as JFK handled the Cuban Missile Crisis 50 years back.
It find it impossible to eat to this.
moaning whores are in my head, telling me what to do.
Let's try this again…
Perhaps some one is having a Mid Life Crisis?
First link works?
I clicked both……..run two with a 40 second delay= AWESOME!!!!!!!!!11
Yeah, the first post zoomed out of Moderation Limbo, I guess!
I did the 40-second delay double run also. It sounded like someone was trying to call up the Great Old Ones.
Hormones. How do they work?
The red tide comes in, the red tide goes out….
Winner!!
O/T: Anyone else in Richmond, VA area planning to go hear our President speak tomorrow morning?
You going? Grab a sign and a seat behind the podium & you'll be helping out Barry's campaign on the national news!
I'll be (almost literally) in Baltimore Harbor all day long. I'm just hoping for no T-storms
Give him our love!
I'm in California. My chances of seeing Bamz in the next two weeks are well below zero.
Geez, if you listen to CNN it's a regular Carrie Nation out there.
sorry
I see what you did there!
Thanks!
Very clever!
This Blog Attracts Bears.
Hillary 2016.
Mitt wants government off your back and in your uterus. Period.
That almost makes me rethink my support for big government.
I know a pretty funny menstrual anger joke, but I don't have periods so I'll pretty much sit on my hands and keep to myself this time around.
So, I spend all afternoon replacing the fucking motor on the fucking dishwasher, plus half the other fucking fittings underneath the fucking sink because they all went in sometime probably in the fucking
NixonTruman administration………and this is the thanks I get!!!!!!!!!!!!Oh, wait.
Rag Mama Rag. Now what's come over you?
….spend all afternoon replacing the fucking motor on the fucking dishwasher, plus half the other fucking fittings underneath the fucking sink because they all went in sometime probably in the fucking Truman administration….
Haz beers nao.
[plus it always takes longer when ya fuck-up]
You have mastered an essential concept in Household Repairs. Beers AFTER the job.
It's surprising how many people never get that.
Well, if I had had beers [and sammich] mighta just said "fuck it", so still kinda unclear where the net positive lies.
You replaced the motor on a dishwasher?
[Pause]
WE SALUTE YOU.
(I hate dealing with pressurized water)
{amateur tip} Check teh Youtube first, not half-way through.
Also : Compression fittings and copper tubing are worse than Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!
But better than sweat joints.
No sweat:
http://www.sharkbite.com/usa/product/push-fit-pro…
True story. I am 8 months pregnant, suffering with the flu. My 2 year old son is with me. My husband is in the crawlspace under the bathroom working on the plumbing. He is banging on cast iron, screaming "You cocksucking motherfucker!!" My son toddles up to me, very concerned, and says "mommy, daddy needs you".
I much prefer it when he does wiring. Much less stressful.
My turn to be the Thick Skulled Commenter Who Doesn't Get It: Would one of you wags explain this Pogues business?! I gather it has something to do with Mr. Afrocentric Name who was Twitter-feuding with Rebecca, but I don't know how in the fuck you make heads or tails of a conversation on that goddamned appliance.
He took offense to me referring to "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" as "Waltzing Matilda" and called me a dink, and I was all OK I looked it up and how can you possibly say that's wrong especially considering Twitter's character limit YOU'RE a dink, dink. And then he said I was annoyed, angry, and dumb and kept shouting at me about being annoyed, angry and dumb, and then I was all "are you on the rag?" and he spent about an hour accusing me of being a Gender Traitor.
It actually kind of freaked me out.
Thank God you didn't upset any Neil Diamond fans; they can get homicidal!
No kidding. There are still people harboring a grudge against Dave Barry for suggesting that "songs she sang to me / songs she brang to me" was a pretty bad rhyme…in 1992.
I get yelled at for thinking the first line of, "War Pigs" is pretty bad
"Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses"
Rhyming Masses with Masses is just lazy.
That's a killer version. This jackanapes is no Lester Bangs.
I suspect Eric Bogle (who did write the damned song) would not care about your teensy slip. The one time I saw him live, he was quite proud of having been called a First World War Poet by the Times. So, yes, the Twit was on the rag.
Update: bloody hell. Bob Kerrey sang this in 1988. He also thought Bogle was around during the Great War. He's actually pretty good, but I think we should keep this entre nous until he beats Fischer.
In a Pogues context, I'd say 'Waltzing Matilda' is a perfectly acceptable Twitter-shortened substitute for "ATBPWM".
Jerk was definitely OTR.
My granddad's middle name (his Mom's maiden name) was Pogue, so I have reverse sideways inherited the rights to that song and retroactively rename it to what you said.
Those of us of a certain age will recall "And the Band Played Waltzing Mathilda" as a Joan Baez cover, but the Pogues' version was more broadly popular. It is a great tune, but it is also, of course, not the same tune as the traditional "Waltzing Mathilda".
In short, this is just more evidence that Twitter is a tool of the non-existent devil.
A Capella(sp?) June Tabor sings "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAl0FRjEzCA
you all just want to make me cry, because that is what that song does to me.
VAGINA! TAWANDA! Whatever.
Too bad it is too late for all the women who are voting for Obama to sync their periods and be ovulating at the same time as the election. Then they could vote for Obama with 20% more conviction. But wait…
Okay, I get it. This study is dumb.
VAGINA! TAWANDA! Let's call the whole thing off!
More interesting study: Dems top-rated brand is Google; Repubs' is Chic-Fil-A.
CNN is the Tampax of the blog-O-Sphere.
CNN — now with LeakGuard™!
And wings! For when you have a whole lot of that blue liquid they show in the kotexish commercials on the TV gushing out oh so inconveniently for a woman on the, er, uhm, go….yes, that's it…..go.
MSNBC is OB. Current is the Diva Cup. Fox is that giant pad with no adhesive but a belt instead that they give you in the hospital.
I read Tampax as Tampa…and it still makes sense either way. lol
This is of course why women should not be allowed to vote. I think it is actually a plank in the GOP platform.
Okay. I'm ashamed about it, but I'll fess up: I bitched about that CNN headline for at least 45 seconds this afternoon. Got fairly huffy about it. Then I read the actual article and settled down a bit.
In my defense, I had JUST received a Scott Brown mailer that featured the headline "Scott Brown: Making a Difference, For Women", and the "For Women" part was in a repulsive pink script font. Because, you know, that's how you make sure that ladies read stuff, by putting it in pink script font.
So I was already super-annoyed.
At the risk of losing my "mediocre" p rating, I'm going to disagree with both you and She Who Must Be Obeyed. I did read the CNN article, and it does contain caveats, and quotes from people pooh-poohing the study, but it only does that after a provocative lede that I think you're not supposed to read past. Er, it did, because when I went to check my memory I found that it's been removed because "some elements of the story did not meet the editorial standards of CNN". So perhaps this whole thread comes to a grinding halt.
(Full disclosure: I do not have a vagina. Last time I checked, the penis had not completely atrophied.)
I find that an awful lot of health reporting is rather misleading &/or skewed. The headline makes a dramatic pronouncement about how vitamins are worse than poison, then you finally track down the actual study & find out that a few people died after they found out they had a terminal illness & started taking vitamins.
Come to think of it, I guess much reporting is this bad- not just the health-related articles.
"I find that an awful lot of health reporting is rather misleading &/or skewed. The headline makes a dramatic pronouncement about how vitamins are worse than poison"
There's an Ellen DeGeneris bit about that:
Newscaster: Coming up at 11, a common food that can kill you.
Person eating dinner in front of the TV: Oh, no! It's not stringbeans, is it?
Stuff that involves evaluating peoples' feelings is unavoidably sketchy, and deserves lots of disclaimers.
This particular one wasn't that bad, and it had quite a few disclaimers.
I spent my career dealing with hard science, give or take a few quanta, but I do know that attempting to quantify human behavior is a much trickier business. And popular understanding is further eroded by the tendency for reporters to oversimplify and headline-writers to inadvertently misrepresent.
This was far from the worst example.
EWWWW I am so sorry, will you forward that email please? rebecca@wonkette dot com. It sounds fun!
RATS! It wasn't an email, it was a big obnoxious 8×11 postcard mailer which I promptly and cathartically tore up into little pieces. I could tape it together and scan it for you, but that probably wouldn't have the same effect…
Also, why the hell am I getting Scott Brown mailers? At least I can get some satisfaction from knowing he wasted the 57 cents (or whatever).
Somebody must've sold him their mailing list.
I'm not getting anything from him yet, but Mitt sends me expensive-looking glossy posters that really lower the tone of my recycling bin…
I take hormones now – and it is too damn hot- so get off my lawn
Becca seems kinda upset about this.
I think she's on the rag right now.
This is a development that everyone should be aware of: http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2012/10/24/more-allega…
At least he gives presents, which is more than I can say about most of my brethren.
I was always creeped out by that whole, "He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake" thing.
Me too! Especially after I read this article!
"You see, Vagina Americans vote like this, while Penis Americans vote like this…"
I must complain about the photo. It has rendered me unclean and now I must undergo ritual purification.
And CNN has yanked the post. Because they are a bunch of pussies.
http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/24/do-hormo…
Weird, that was the talk of the intertubes today.
See C_R_'s Lorena Bobbitt wildlife link in teh 'Ville.
Thanks, that has to be one of my all time favorites.
i think i speak for many of us when i say my girl hormones vote for obama.
Ok, here's the thing-I was raised a boy in Jacksonville, Florida, the buckle of the Bible Belt, by fairly conservative parents from rural North Carolina. IOW, not by radical feminists on a commune in Oregon. And I'm *not* freaked out by ladyparts and menstruation. So what's the big deal, people?
Also, too, OT-why does the post about the Snowbilly crash my browser (repeatedly) when I try to open it?
It might have something to do with the format of the video. What browser are you running? You might need to play around with the settings/plug-ins/add-ons.
IntenseDebate has a right to do anything we can't stop it from doing.
That's some Debate, that IntenseDebate.
And everyone has a share.
What's good for Doktor Zoom is good for America.
The photo. WTF? In all my years checking out Wonkette I have never been this upset. My dainty little sensibilities have been blasted. Surely, ANYTHING goes here. No more censorship of any kind.
Did you ever eat a rare steak? Or suck your finger after you cut it?
If so, IMPEACH!!!!
What's the difference between a vitamin and a hormone?
Vitamins don't get upset when all you have is American Express?
Don't blame the Pogues- they can't help being awesome.
That's true. But it's way past time for Shane to break down and buy some teeth.
They were kinda green in the '90's. I kinda figured they'd have rotted away completely by now?
Yeah, they're all gone, now.
So, it's all about the ovulation, is it? Shit, I thought it was becuz I wuz hawt!
These are not mutually exclusive premises, y'know…
Whew! (Ego re-inflates)Sent from the Field, not in Garrison.
Aw, shaddup and quit fishing for compliments! You KNOW you're hawt!
Busted! ;)Sent from the Field, not in Garrison.
And we think you're 20% hawter at certain times of the month. What's not to like?
The writer of the post has one of the moments that happens once a month, the STUPIDITY brain period.
Can you have more stories for boys?
Will this work? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR7udiyRnwU
On the internet? Good luck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwDmc3FI_Q
All I know is something I learned years ago: Men are pigs and you should just stay out of the way no matter what time of the month it is.
Hey, I'm not a pig. I'm more like a really chill, ring-tailed lemur. If I could put on a bit more weight, I'd be a three-toed sloth.
I have a real *thing* for lemurs, yaknow.
I swear, if you have daughters or granddaughters, it makes you eye every other man in the world with a VERY jaundiced eye.
Well, I've been dating myself for some years now, but I'll happily blame it on the Pogues.
ugh.
need to drink more wine now — always makes me feel more sexy.
I would do everything to that crazy bitch Michele Bachmann.
Everything.
"now the Ladiez of Twitter — ladies we honestly admire! — have gone totally raggo."
Leggo my raggo!
Mrs. Teasdale makes total sense now.
And my favorite urinal graffiti: from the Euclid Tavern in Cleveland in the mid 1990s.
Don't trust anything that bleeds for 3 days and doesn't die.
I retract my upfist on your previous comment.
Indeed. I'm an awful person. I may convert to Mormon so I can get extra wives and my own planet.
Gentleman, please. There are bizotches present.
As someone who bled for more than three days once and didn't die I resent that. OK, it was out of the incisions on my freshly amputated leg, but still…
Oh, you're a gimp too?
That's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it would be to say that I have extreme body modifications. I like to look at the hipsters and modern primitives in Seattle and think "Ooooohhhh, aren't you precious with your pierced eyebrow and those gauges in your ears. Wuss! Call me when you get a body mod made out of surgical titanium and that required the services of an orthopedic surgeon and an anesthesiologist for placement."
Yeah, I have one of those too. We need to know this about each other so that when we're all forced to resort to hobo beans and cannibalism, we'll avoid each other's inedible bits.
Not particularly relevant to this thread, but my favorite graffiti is from the Kollege Klub in Madison in early 1969: "Get Spiro first".
Listen, for us Oldz, that's ALWAYS relevant. Pull out, Dick, like yer father should've!
CLEVELAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar; that much is true.
You mixed up the female part on purpose, because you're an insensitive robot.
My fave part of the CNN's mutha of all studies: the final two words of the last sentence:
"Even if the finding is correct, there's a chance that it won't have a cumulative effect on the electorate," he said.
PERIOD!
1. Trying to do social science, particularly measuring "feelings", is hard work. Ideally, you should control for time of day, day of the week, how far from payday, the weather, disruptions in personal life, the health and well-being of the subject's family and friends, etc. Because this is hard, most studies assume that the factors not under observation are randomized out, but for this to be a valid assumption, the sample size may need to be quite large. The CNN article is deleted, but I'd imagine that an appropriate sample would be several thousand.
2. A quote from the article (at huffypoo) says that the study is to be published in the peer-reviewed journal Psychological Science. Now, this could mean that it has been peer-reviewed and scheduled for publication, or that it has been submitted for review. My beef with CNN here would be that they should wait until it is actually published before reporting on it.
This is actually a pretty generic beef with mainstream media reporting on science. The point of peer review is to ensure that published discoveries are at least plausible. Reporting on stuff before it has gone through peer review is sort of rabble-rousing.
3. Therefore, even though the CNN article was fairly neutral, it was premature, and CNN deserves to be criticized for it. Now, I'd stop before a general boycott. It is far from the worst thing they've done in the last three months, and they are irrelevant anyhow.
Thank you. Nothing like a scientist spelling it out.
I avoid MSM science reporting like the plague. I think only the NYT has good science writers. ScienceNews is my favourite source. All their writers are scientists, usually in the field on which they're reporting.
It's true. I did wake up this morning wanting to vote for Obama and f*ck Romney.
Women only feel sexier if they are legitimately ovulating. (we've got two more weeks with that joke, right?)
Nothing in CNN’s post was worthy of scorn…
Making it CNN's best post this month.
If by "feel sexier" they mean "are more likely to be sexually proceptive or receptive," then it turns out no, women don't necessarily feel sexier at ovulation. Some women do. Others feel sexy right before menstruation or right after menstruation. For others, their interest in sex has no reliable relationship to their cycle. It's one of the complex things about human female sexuality is that it appears to be largely decoupled from their hormonal oscillation. There is some evidence of behavior changes like walking more and changes in clothing choice, but no particularly compelling explanation for why these things might be true. Just, like, FYI.
Considering that youse guys ain't exactly *friends,* Biely …
"I like to see the Old Man now and then
And try to be not too uncivil.
It's charming in a noble squire when
He speaks humanely with the very Devil."
That's just what they want you to think.
Oh no you don't. You're in this with the rest of us.
The devil can quote … oh, wait, that's Goethe, not scripture.
It builds character?
No, that's not it.
Are you fucking kidding me, wild horses wouldn't drag me away. I still have a few teeth, yaknow.
Nah. Just killing time.
Sounds about right.
I'm kinda quiet and reserved, so I tend towards the shorter: YOU FUCK!!
(rubs the furry belly)
Actually, I do my best work when quoting scripture.
(flees)
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