SOMETHING SOMETHING ROBERT BYRD SOMETHING  9:00 am October 17, 2012

South Carolina Politician Joined The Klan For A While, Wasn’t Super Into It

by Josh Fruhlinger

Ugh, so many boring meetings about how this rally was going to goYou know how it goes: you’re young, you’re questioning a lot of things, you’re working as a sheriff’s deputy in South Carolina, and you’re open to some “out there” ideas! Why not experiment with eastern religions? Why not drop some acid? Why not join the Ku Klux Klan? That’s the sort of thing that might come back to haunt you, though, if you later grow up and become a county councilman. Or not, we guess? Eddie Moore’s local political career seemed to be going OK until he had to testify under oath in a lawsuit between the county and its former administrator (side note: this lawsuit is almost certain full of vicious recriminations, we bet it makes for good local drama), which apparently resulted in some awkward Klan-related questions. Why did Moore eventually leave this racist terror group? Was it because he realized that its hatred was a cancer eating away at American society? Or was it because it was boring and lame?

Our only evidence is his testimony from the lawsuit, during the course of which Moore was asked under oath about his Klanish ties:

“Mr Moore, have you ever told anyone that you have an affiliation with the KKK” asked attorney Lance Davis.

“Not that I recall,” answered Moore.

Davis: “Do you have an affiliation?”

Moore: “No, not right now”

Davis: “Did you ever?”

Moore: “I did”

Davis: “when?”

Moore: “Back in my early younger days.”

Davis: “Can you define younger days?”

Moore: “Probably as a teenager”

Davis: “When did you discontinue that affiliation?”

Moore: “It probably lasted a couple of years”

Davis: “Were you a member?”

Moore: “I was”

Davis: “Did you participate in any sort of ceremonies?”

Moore: “No, I don’t remember a ceremony, no. I went to a few meetings, and that was the whole gist of it.”

Davis: “Were there cross burnings?”

Moore: “I never went to a cross burning.”

Davis: “Did you own a hood?”

Moore: “I don’t recall owning a hood. I went to some meetings and that was it.”

Yeah, we’d think that that owning a fucking Klan hood would be the sort of thing you remember, but maybe we’re wrong. Do they give you a hood, do you think, or do you have to provide your own? Or are you expected to browbeat your white gentile woman into sewing one for you, out of your nicest curtains?

Anyway, we can see why Moore quit the Klan, because it sounds like a bunch of bullshit. No ceremonies, no hoods, no cross burnings, just a bunch of meetings, which, if you’ve ever been to a meeting of any organization ever, you know are dominated by the two loudest/stupidest people there, and everyone whines about how nothing ever gets done. It’s the sort of thing that makes you realize that it’s not just the blacks and the Jews and the Catholics you hate, it’s people, ugh, God, why won’t they shut up, are we going to go burn a cross somewhere or what.

Fortunately for Moore, the people of Anderson County (i.e., the people commenting on local TV station WSPA’s website using their real Facebook identities) are willing to overlook youthful indiscretions, particularly youthful indiscretions that involve white supremacy.

I mean, who hasn't lynched a colored fella or two when he was a kid, amiright?

Go, and sin no more! [WSPA]

 

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eggsacklywright October 17, 2012 at 9:04 am

The Brazilians will get a kick out of this.

An_Outhouse October 17, 2012 at 9:51 am

kkk kkk kkk

UW8316154 October 17, 2012 at 10:46 am

kkkkkkkkk

Mittaplasia October 17, 2012 at 11:16 am

I just hope there aren't a brazillian of them on here like a few nights ago…yikes!

eggsacklywright October 17, 2012 at 11:34 am

Really. That was like The Swarming. Good thing there's no sound on Wonket, would've been annoying buzzy.

AlterNewt October 17, 2012 at 9:05 am

Moore: “I never went to a cross burning.”

Well, there you have it.

Tundra Grifter October 17, 2012 at 9:49 am

In American South, Cross Burning comes to you!

GunToting[Redacted] October 17, 2012 at 11:00 am

True, but it only comes to 3/5ths of the population.

PsycWench October 17, 2012 at 10:33 am

…in his deputy uniform.

from the link: Moore…confirmed that his time with the KKK coincided with his years as an Anderson County deputy.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 17, 2012 at 7:08 pm

Half the people wearing Klan robes had law enforcement uniforms underneath.

Come here a minute October 17, 2012 at 9:05 am

And another thing, their basketball team was crap.

zumpie October 17, 2012 at 9:37 am

And they served really bad coffee and stale cookies

Tundra Grifter October 17, 2012 at 9:49 am

Probably doughnuts that didn't get finished at the po-liece station.

Cicada October 17, 2012 at 10:40 am

I'm not surprised. The hoods make keeping your eye on the ball really difficult.

Negropolis October 18, 2012 at 2:12 am

Well, everybody knows that white sheets can't jump.

eggsacklywright October 17, 2012 at 9:05 am

Racism is the new black.

PsycWench October 17, 2012 at 9:06 am

I went to an anti-Khomeni rally when I was a freshman in college (still have the t-shirt but it doesn't fit anymore). That's about the same thing, right?

jfruh October 17, 2012 at 9:25 am

Please tell me it's an "Ayatollah Assholah" shirt

thatsitfortheother1 October 17, 2012 at 9:45 am

Rock The Casbah.

eggsacklywright October 17, 2012 at 9:47 am

God I miss Joe Strummer.

thatsitfortheother1 October 17, 2012 at 10:03 am

x2

Tundra Grifter October 17, 2012 at 9:51 am

I was on an extended Caribbean jaunt around 1980 (details are fuzzy) and there was a Calypso song on the radio we always enjoyed. "Give Me Back Me Shah."

Tundra Grifter October 17, 2012 at 9:53 am

Back in the Reagan days there were some great bumbersnickers.

"What's black, flat, and glows in the dark? Iran after Reagan is elected."

and

"Let's play Cowboys and Iranians."

Mittaplasia October 17, 2012 at 11:19 am

Come on, sing along with Ronnie…bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran…

Doktor Zoom October 17, 2012 at 11:59 am

I went to a couple of Nuclear Freeze rallies wearing a t-shirt that said "Join the Army! Travel to exotic foreign lands! Meet interesting unusual people and kill them!"

In the early 80's we hadn't quite gotten with the whole "never say anything bad about the troops" thing

memzilla October 17, 2012 at 9:06 am

we all do crazy stuff when we're young

Unless of course that "youthful indiscretion" is left-wing, and then it's OMG Bill Ayers Terrist Soshlist Commie Kenyan Muslin 'Lebenty!

PsycWench October 17, 2012 at 9:10 am

The standard is definitely way different. Went to rallies for a group that was dedicated to keeping black in their place? Meh. Sat on a committee that included Bill Ayers? TREASONOUS BASTARD!!!

sudsmckenzie October 17, 2012 at 9:06 am

Maybe he just couldn't bring himself to wear white after Labor Day.

elviouslyqueer October 17, 2012 at 9:16 am

True. This is the South after all. We take that shit seriously down here.

ManchuCandidate October 17, 2012 at 9:19 am

Wingnuts don't believe in labor day…

PsycWench October 17, 2012 at 9:21 am

I don't think they understand the origin of "Labor Day". They probably think the labor refers to the work involved in grilling and opening beers.

thatsitfortheother1 October 17, 2012 at 9:47 am

Having unborted babies.

sudsmckenzie October 17, 2012 at 10:05 am

.. it's the day we celebrate NASCAR pit crews.

eggsacklywright October 17, 2012 at 9:07 am

I had a youthful indiscretion, now I have geezer indiscretions.

Yellerdawg October 17, 2012 at 10:42 am

Just mutter, "Excuse me." and keep walking.

PsycWench October 17, 2012 at 9:07 am

If he had been a woman he would have been too busy shopping for a binder.

sudsmckenzie October 17, 2012 at 9:13 am

He's gotta to put three rings on that.

freakishlywrong October 17, 2012 at 9:17 am

Or joining a cackle of rads.

eggsacklywright October 17, 2012 at 9:48 am

For feets in China.

thatsitfortheother1 October 17, 2012 at 9:48 am

Romney's type are pretty much 8 1/2 x 11.

James Michael Curley October 17, 2012 at 9:55 am

With all his foreign investments its probably A4 and jambs up the Xerox machine.

thatsitfortheother1 October 17, 2012 at 10:09 am

A3. On a Hoverround.

eggsacklywright October 17, 2012 at 9:08 am

Just because I am a Scottish person, please don't disparage my clan.

Biff October 17, 2012 at 9:08 am

My name is Biff and I am an asshole
wait, wrong meeting…

YouFail4eva October 17, 2012 at 9:34 am

No, no, please continue. You're a what?

doloras October 17, 2012 at 4:34 pm

Is it really? Or is it just that you KKK members can't admit you're alcoholics?!?

Biff October 17, 2012 at 5:12 pm

Wait, WHAT?

freakishlywrong October 17, 2012 at 9:08 am

I thought "youthful indiscretion" was code for "buttescks".

PsycWench October 17, 2012 at 9:12 am

Also "adulterous affair ". See: Hyde, Henry.

SorosBot October 17, 2012 at 9:30 am

A "youthful" indiscretion when he was in his mid-40s. The GOP has a strange definition of youth.

PsycWench October 17, 2012 at 9:36 am

Indeed. Remember the Republican "Young Guns" group that included Eric Cantor at the fresh-faced age of 49?

freakishlywrong October 17, 2012 at 9:52 am

They're all old, adolescent white guys. (see "Humor, Conservative").

YasserArraFeck October 17, 2012 at 5:25 pm

When talking about 'Tards, a more accurate term than "youthful" might be "infantile", or "puerile".

Of course, "cocksucker" also works………

Boojum October 17, 2012 at 9:09 am

I was in a fraternity. We didn't burn crosses, but we did mud wrestle. This is why I can't have nice political offices.

Grief_Lessons October 17, 2012 at 9:11 am

…like most people, I've dealt a little ivory.

eggsacklywright October 17, 2012 at 9:36 am

…but never any ebony.

Toomush_Infer October 17, 2012 at 9:12 am

Oh, wash dem sheets….

Lucidamente1 October 17, 2012 at 9:13 am

Less is Moore.

Schmannnity October 17, 2012 at 9:13 am

I feel better that he quit because there wasn't enough action. Too many meetings, not enough mayhem.

EatsBabyDingos October 17, 2012 at 9:14 am

Gee, most of my youthful indiscretions involved smoking pot and farting in the back of the bus. And making binders of women, and you know how that always turns out.

Pragmatist2 October 17, 2012 at 9:15 am

Follow Up Question: Mr. Moore, did you ever go to any CHURCH burnings?

One_Man_Band October 17, 2012 at 9:33 am

I would totally forgive any youthful indiscretions involving Burzum.

thatsitfortheother1 October 17, 2012 at 10:11 am

Does dynamite qualify?

eggsacklywright October 17, 2012 at 9:18 am

I would flip Moore the Byrd.

ManchuCandidate October 17, 2012 at 9:18 am

I don't think it is a coincidence that the dunce caps and white hoods are the same shape.

I guess it is fortunate for the rest of US Amercia that only the most stupid, unaware, and ignorant white people join shitheel organizations like the KKK.

Biff October 17, 2012 at 9:21 am

Still, a falling tide scuttles all boats.

Goonemeritus October 17, 2012 at 9:19 am

Joining a hate group isn't a youthful indiscretion. Listening to Prog-Rock is a youthful indiscretion.

elviouslyqueer October 17, 2012 at 9:21 am

YES LIBEL.

Goonemeritus October 17, 2012 at 9:23 am

You sir are psychic, that is the very group I am most ashamed of.

LesBontemps October 17, 2012 at 9:30 am

Me too. I'm just thankful I was never a Rush fan; that's the kind of thing that haunts you for life.

PsycWench October 17, 2012 at 9:37 am

And yet every classic rock station plays "Tom Sawyer" about twice a day. Indeed I feel haunted.

HeadsIWin October 17, 2012 at 2:25 pm

I was 15 and offering to help to the roadies breakdown the stage after Rush played Madison Square when the biggest, angriest, roady of all started screaming at me. "Don't hurt him, Rob" they told him. In the meantime, my "friends" left me and I had to wander the streets of city penniless trying to find my way back to Grand Central. (The pills we bought in the men's room seem germane to this antidote I suppose.)
The dismayed looks on the faces of the beat cops I asked directions from was the priceless point of the evening though.

doloras October 17, 2012 at 4:35 pm

STEVE HOWE SAYS SCREW YOU!

*rocks out to "Gates of Delirium"*

Biff October 17, 2012 at 9:34 am

In a Roundabout way, Yes…

Chet Kincaid_ October 17, 2012 at 11:15 am

Bat capes and Rickenbackers! Castrati vocals! Sparkly wizard keyboards! Bill Bruford got out just in time.

doloras October 17, 2012 at 4:36 pm

… well, true, but that opens the can of worms of whether King Crimson were prog-rock or not.

eggsacklywright October 17, 2012 at 9:42 am

Awww, Tull was fun.

prommie October 17, 2012 at 9:49 am

There's been this awesome long article on prog-rock on The Awl for some time now, its really good, I upfist it heartily.

LesBontemps October 17, 2012 at 9:19 am

The Klan was too boring, so he went into law enforcement. Nothing to see here, obvs.

YouFail4eva October 17, 2012 at 9:41 am

Man, this guy should get together with the Arizona National Guard guys. They could expand their hunting grounds! It's win-win, baby!

EatsBabyDingos October 17, 2012 at 9:20 am

"Probably as a teenager; certainly as of last week."

Oblios_Cap October 17, 2012 at 9:22 am

It's no crazier or racist than converting to Mormonism. At least he quit when he "realized it was boring".

Tundra Grifter October 17, 2012 at 9:58 am

It appears that Mormonism, like life insurance, isn't bought. It's sold.

James Michael Curley October 17, 2012 at 11:11 am

In my youth in my Italian neighborhood, the guys coming around often in all black suits were Mormons, the guys coming around in grey suits were the dime a week insurance salesmen, the guys coming around in all black in the middle of the night were …. ghaaahggg!

EnnuiThereYet? October 17, 2012 at 9:23 am

Please sign my petition asking Darrel Issa to launch a congressional investigation.

thatsitfortheother1 October 17, 2012 at 9:55 am

Not gonna happen. No CIA to out.

James Michael Curley October 17, 2012 at 11:13 am

A congressional investigation into his other brother Darrel?

Chow Yun Flat October 17, 2012 at 9:24 am

Bob Green is a dog.

elviouslyqueer October 17, 2012 at 9:24 am

*assesses Mr. Moore's glamor shot*

Let's see… Bad combover? Check. Tie bought at the local Dollar General? Check. Jowly grin that would make Haley Barbour proud? Check. Pronounced turkey waddle? Check.

Oh please. This man is a poster boy for "Today's Klan."

AlterNewt October 17, 2012 at 5:10 pm

Did you know that on a cool Autumn night at the Shady Oaks country club in Jackson Mississippi, If you're really, really quiet, you can actually hear the sound of Haley Barbour's jowls waddling?

Negropolis October 18, 2012 at 2:17 am

It's funny, I will not set foot into a Dollar General, but I have no problem shopping in a Family Dollar. What? There bathroom and cleaning products are quality and a great value, I swear!

SorosBot October 17, 2012 at 9:26 am

It was just a youthful indiscretion? But wait, I thought the fact that Robert Byrd was in klan when he was young meant that all Democrats everywhere are the real racists, forever.

ph7 October 17, 2012 at 9:28 am

I grew up in Montgomery County MD, not exactly the South, and in the late 70's, KKK guys would hang out in the high school parking lot and hand out business cards with the Klan emblem and invite you to meetings. Never went, but I did talk to these wackos. I'm sure the meetings were evil, but I got more of the sense that it was a club for stupid ignorant rednecks to bitch about why their lives suck, and blame it on someone else. The guys in the parking lot reeked Big Loser, and seemed too hapless to be much of threat to anyone. It reminded me of the Little Rascals Women's Haters Club.

PsycWench October 17, 2012 at 9:39 am

a club for stupid ignorant rednecks to bitch about why their lives suck, and blame it on someone else.
We have a video in the college library on hate groups, narrated by a former member, and that is almost exactly how he describes them.

Terry October 17, 2012 at 9:45 am

My dad explained them to me when I was little, saying that some people who have hit bottom look for people to put under them rather than working to improve their lives.

PsycWench October 17, 2012 at 9:52 am

Your dad is a wise man.

Terry October 17, 2012 at 9:42 am

I saw some Klan guys once in southern Prince Georges County, MD, when I was little in the late 60's, but they were fighting an uphill battle in that area since even then the community was made up of a lot of immigrants, black people, and government workers who in large part got along.

It shocked me when I moved to the Deep South to see Klan still popping up from time to time. When I lived in south Louisiana, two competing Klan groups were both trying to recruit in my town at the same time for some reason. They ended up on the local news debating whether or not Cajuns counted as white and whether Catholics should be admitted to the Klan or not. Neither of these debates went over well with the largely Catholic Cajun population.

Weenus299 October 17, 2012 at 9:42 am

That was about the tone of it in the SC upstate back in the 1970s. Dumbshits who could know better but had trouble with books and shit.

James Michael Curley October 17, 2012 at 11:16 am

Ironic in that Maryland was a slave state and refused to join the confederacy. (Which would have played havoc on the Union Army command in DC.)

doloras October 17, 2012 at 4:47 pm

Refused? I heard the Maryland legislature was going to vote to secede until Abe Lincoln sent the troops in. (And if Maryland had gone Confederate, then the Rebs were going to take DC and make it their own capital.)

Esteev October 17, 2012 at 9:30 am

Give him a break. Maybe he thought it was the Kool Klux Klan.

thatsitfortheother1 October 17, 2012 at 9:58 am

Kool and the Klan.

Beach_Bubba_Tex October 17, 2012 at 9:31 am

Ahh, isn't this the "wind jobs in Iowa" thread?

thatsitfortheother1 October 17, 2012 at 9:58 am

Hey Beach.

James Michael Curley October 17, 2012 at 11:19 am

When Romney mentioned that I was disappointed Obama did not mention that as Governor Romney he vetoed the legislative attempt to construct an offshore wind farm on the outer banks of Nantucket. Unfortunately, when the legislature tried to override the veto Ted Kennedy gave them a lot less than mediocre support.

Indiepalin October 17, 2012 at 9:31 am

Here in Albuquerque you can rent the entire Klan costume at Mr. Hood.

Biff October 17, 2012 at 9:38 am

Oregon has an entire mountain

thatsitfortheother1 October 17, 2012 at 9:58 am

Beat me to it.

Texan_Bulldog October 17, 2012 at 9:33 am

Does that 2nd Klan guy on the left have a pig mask on?

FakaktaSouth October 17, 2012 at 9:33 am

I feel way better about my Donnie and Marie fascination when I was a youngster. Dabbling in a little bit country, little bit rock and roll, toothy Mormonism just doesn't sound so bad next to the Klan, ya know?

prommie October 17, 2012 at 9:46 am

Dancing Queen, feel the beat of the tambourine, oh yeah. . . . .

FakaktaSouth October 17, 2012 at 9:49 am

Abba is NOT as bad as D&M, as those Dancing Queens are all OVER my prommie playlist right now, and there's no Osmonds in ipod sight, but I appreciate the back-ups.

prommie October 17, 2012 at 9:54 am

Don't forget I Do I Do I Do I Do!

Chet Kincaid_ October 17, 2012 at 10:32 am

But how much Prog Rock and bad Jazz Fusion do you have to make up for? Maybe that's just me. Anybody want some Return To Forever albums on vinyl?

Doktor Zoom October 17, 2012 at 12:10 pm

So you're saying that since he's met you, your life is as good as an Abba song. It's as good as Dancing Queen.

Also, factcheck: NO ONE can feel the beat of a tambourine.

FakaktaSouth October 17, 2012 at 1:00 pm

I dunno, sometimes a good jam can cause one to just go crazy with the tambourine hip slam, no? And MammaMia proms has just added so much to the Fakakta playlist, ABBA notwithstanding.

Terry October 17, 2012 at 9:37 am

"we all do crazy stuff when we're young"

My youthful indiscretions involve 1980's fashions and bad haircuts, not hanging out with the Klan.

I'd feel very different about this guy if he said that he went to a meeting or two with a friend or crazy uncle not knowing exactly what they group was, then realized what a hateful bunch of f'ers they were and got as far away from them as possible. That would be a youthful indiscretion. Instead, he wants us to believe that he can barely recall anything about the whole thing and doesn't know if he had a hood or not. I can guarantee you that anyone who has bought or was given a klan hood remembers the moment in crystal clarity.

Chow Yun Flat October 17, 2012 at 9:37 am

No, I don’t remember a ceremony, no

There was that one time that I drank something and fell asleep at the clubhouse and when I woke up my ass was really sore…nothing other than that, though.

YasserArraFeck October 17, 2012 at 5:36 pm

Nothing worse than passing out at a Klan rally and waking up with your robes bunched up about your waist. Burning cross in the evening, burning ass in the morning.

Weenus299 October 17, 2012 at 9:40 am

O sweet memories of my youth! Ya'll, if you're from Sparkle City and elsewhere in the upstate, the Klan was, around the 1970s, pretty involved. I can't think of one big hang-everybody rally back then, but there were lots of little showings at parades and all. Also at that time, lots of chapters ditched the robes and shit, and some renamed it the "White Patriot Party" to sort of, you know, modernize it and such.

prommie October 17, 2012 at 9:45 am

So this means my Trotskyite phase (ongoing) should be no hindrance to running for high office either, right?

doloras October 17, 2012 at 4:50 pm

It depends what kind of trotskyite: USec, ICFI, Spartacist, Morenoite?

SpiderCrab October 17, 2012 at 9:47 am

Yes, I was romantically involved with an opossum for a little while. Maybe three years. I was young. We petted pretty heavily, but we never went all the way. Well, maybe once. Or twice.

Yellerdawg October 17, 2012 at 10:48 am

But she kept falling asleep.

James Michael Curley October 17, 2012 at 9:47 am

I'll bet Salim Hamdan knows whether or not he ever wore a hood.

thatsitfortheother1 October 17, 2012 at 9:52 am

I don't recall having a half inch manilla rope with a thirteen over-coiled noose tied off by with barrel knot…

James Michael Curley October 17, 2012 at 9:52 am

Fifty Shades of Romney "I Have Binders Full of Women."

Toomush_Infer October 17, 2012 at 9:54 am

Yeah, there was that time I dropped acid at the local Black Panther house, but they all laughed at me when I tried to join in the tribal dance….

Chet Kincaid_ October 17, 2012 at 9:54 am

Apparently, Zach Green's "crazy stuff" includes cutting his girlfriend's legs off at the knees and calling her "Stumpy", then shoving his hand up her ass and using her as a ventriloquist's dummy.

Mumbletypeg October 17, 2012 at 9:56 am

the people commenting on local TV station WSPA’s website

Actually, listening to "WSPA" radio while growing up in Sparrkleberry SC might be what I'd consider the entire MUMBLETYFAMILY's youthful indiscretion of note.

Chow Yun Flat October 17, 2012 at 9:59 am

I don't know if I wore a hood–what do you think I am, an Iraqi prisoner at Bagram?

YasserArraFeck October 17, 2012 at 5:38 pm

The electrode burns on your nuts should be a bit of a clue

smitallica October 17, 2012 at 10:00 am

I'm sure the GOP will totally let this man's time in the Klan go by completely unnoticed, and not make an issue out of it six or seven decades after he has publicly and repeatedly apologized for and vehemently renounced his affiliation with that group.
You know, like they did with Robert Byrd.

pdiddycornchips October 17, 2012 at 10:04 am

I'm guessing the affiliation with the Klan will not hurt him much in South Carolina. That fact alone speaks volumes about our friends in the south. Fuck off. You southerners don't just keep your racist past alive, you cherish it. You keep it in the cellar like a bottle of Chateau Lafite de Rothschild. You're just waiting for the right occasion to open it up and enjoy it.

MacRaith October 17, 2012 at 10:05 am

I've been told that the eastern North Carolina Klan nearly disbanded in the late 80s because of its lameness. Apparantly there were no active members under the age of 60. Younger guys just weren't into it – the hard-core racists were pulled into the militia movement, and the rest just kind of said "Ah, fuck it, I'm just gonna get drunk."

There was an uptick in membership starting in early 1993, though. And another in late 2001. And then in 2008, the Klan really started booming again. Can't exactly put my finger on the reason for that, though…

sudsmckenzie October 17, 2012 at 10:11 am

I blame The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

elviouslyqueer October 17, 2012 at 10:33 am

And honestly, who wouldn't?

BoroPrimorac October 17, 2012 at 10:34 am

I blame Yo MTV raps.

Negropolis October 18, 2012 at 2:23 am

That's what happened to the Klan up here in Michigan in Livingston County. They simply transitioned into "survivalists". It didn't hurt that Livingston County was the fastest growing county in the state during the 90's, so they were kind of maligned by the end of the exurban boom. What had once been an isolated fringe county had basically become suburban Detroit.

thatsitfortheother1 October 17, 2012 at 10:07 am

If so, can I borrow Zach's beard?

Not that beard, the one with the tatas.

69WideStance October 17, 2012 at 10:32 am

This is complete bullshit. The guy doesn't even remember owning a hood and never went to a single cross burning. And he probably was only in for a couple of years. It's amazing the crap people try to bring up on u.

pdiddycornchips October 17, 2012 at 10:34 am

Yeah! It's not like he hugged Bill Ayers or something.

prommie October 17, 2012 at 10:42 am

So he decided to become a running dog lackey of the imperialist oppressors, huh?

Yellerdawg October 17, 2012 at 10:51 am

What does it take to be the loudest, stupidest guy at a Klan meeting? Do you just stand up, yell "UNNNGH!" and run headfirst into a wall?

SaintRond October 17, 2012 at 11:36 am

I believe he was a very young, boyish maybe, teenager maybe, police officer when he was in the Klan.

MosesInvests October 17, 2012 at 11:43 am

Not as bad as former Trotskyites who became neocons, like Bill Kristol's father.

a_pink_poodle October 17, 2012 at 12:32 pm

Oh who hasn't joined the Klan? I joined one summer and I wasn't even white.

owhatever October 17, 2012 at 12:43 pm

He dropped out of the KKK because after months of trying, he still could not get the spelling right.

IceCreamEmpress October 17, 2012 at 12:48 pm

Well, I mean, now that those commenters put it that way, I see the light. We all do silly things when we're young! I went to grad school, this dude joined a racist terrorist organization, it's all the same.

ttommyunger October 17, 2012 at 7:30 pm

"Be a Man, Join the Klan". I still remember seeing this on billboards in the South. It still has a certain elan' with the mouth-breathing types.

elviouslyqueer October 17, 2012 at 9:40 am

Our local college radio station played a JAZZ cover of "Tom Sawyer" yesterday. I didn't know whether to laugh hysterically or curl up in the fetal position.

prommie October 17, 2012 at 9:50 am

Tom Sawyer is the epitome of sophomoric psuedointellectual pretension, it gives me douche-chills. Rush defines the level of "intellectualism" that leads to Ayn Rand and libertarianism.

PsycWench October 17, 2012 at 9:47 am

I felt the same way upon hearing a bluegrass cover of "Dark Side of the Moon". Later I learned that no piece of music is immune to a bluegrass cover.

FakaktaSouth October 17, 2012 at 9:55 am

I think douche-chills comes from putting that spout in the wrong place. You should be more careful where you stick things.

Chet Kincaid_ October 17, 2012 at 11:09 am

It was just that one album 2112, I am not sure that Rush is "in the tank" for Ayn Rand. And the album with "Tom Sawyer" is actually the one where they finally grew up.

Tundra Grifter October 17, 2012 at 9:56 am

A few years ago I heard one of those string quartets that specialize in classical music play a Bob Wills tune. I wouldn't want to hear it all day long, but it was kinda neat as a one-off.

Doktor Zoom October 17, 2012 at 12:05 pm

See also the Austin Lounge Lizards' cover of "Brain Damage" and Scissor Sisters' cover of "Comfortably Numb" (not bluegrass, but Bee Gees-inflected disco…)

prommie October 17, 2012 at 10:05 am

That raises what is really a kind of a philosophical question, I mean, is the essence of a thing, what it is or what its used for? Like, you know, postmodernism, the author says this, but the reader reads that. What then is the meaning? Is Pearl Jam's "Alive" a cry of despair or a triumphant declaration? Eddie says he wrote it as a cry of despair, but the audience heard it as triumph, and now the audience's meaning has come back to him and become his meaning. So, if it was manufactured as douche, but you put the spout in the wrong place, does that turn it into something else entirely?

FakaktaSouth October 17, 2012 at 10:10 am

Nothing I like better than a good postmodern douche simile. I am saying Pearl Jam's Alive, as a triumphant response to despair is very much the right way to stick things places? That follows, yes? And honestly, in recanting my prior statement, who's to say what the "wrong" place is anyway?

HempDogbane October 17, 2012 at 10:49 am

You're getting Close To the Edge.

note to self: read a little more of the comments before posting.

James Michael Curley October 17, 2012 at 11:08 am

Ah, thanks for explaining it. So a sitz bath is a chair.

prommie October 17, 2012 at 10:42 am

Robin Trower and "Boom Boom, Out Go The Lights," hows that for awful?

AlterNewt October 17, 2012 at 5:17 pm

70s John McLaughlin tedium is, well, it's pretty horrible.

Chet Kincaid_ October 17, 2012 at 11:08 am

The Yes Album/Fragile/Close To The Edge are respectable; they went off the deep end after that.

Rush did a lot of embarrassing stuff in the '70s, came to their senses in the '80s, and get a pass from me because they're nice guys and Canadians.

prommie October 17, 2012 at 11:11 am

And an enema is a misplaced douche.

Goonemeritus October 17, 2012 at 11:12 am

You don’t get enough credit for having a charitable heart.

HempDogbane October 17, 2012 at 4:33 pm

You're making me want to dig out the Rick Wakeman 6 Wives of Henry VIII cassette I've got in some box in the closet.

Chet Kincaid_ October 17, 2012 at 11:28 am

What, no "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" reference?!

doloras October 17, 2012 at 4:38 pm

Wakeman's only good solo album. Most of what Yes is hated for is Wakeman's personal fault.

Negropolis October 18, 2012 at 2:16 am

Some four-string quartet did that with Coldplay's "In My Place," and I felt most guilty.

LesBontemps October 18, 2012 at 9:11 am

Like Paul Ryan on a national ticket.

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