SPOTLIGHT ON CIVILITY  2:20 pm October 12, 2012

A Children’s Treasury of Butthurt Reactions To Joe Biden’s Debate Demeanor

by Doktor Zoom

Why couldn't Mean Old Handsome Joe just be nice?Say, did you notice that Joe Biden was just a little interrupty in the VP Debate? We are given to understand that Old Handsome Joe’s performance made a bit of a stir among some of the more sensitive souls on the right side of the political spectrum. (You see, when a Republican puts on an angry threat display, it proves his “alpha male” status. When a Dem does something similar, it is the end of civility as we know it, and poo must be flung.)

The Wingosphere is experiencing such a tsunami of tsuris over Mean Joe that we can only skim the surface in this post; no doubt we will miss some of your personal favorites. So it goes. Let’s see whose delicate sensibilities have been ruffled by the Veep-Hulk:

  • Dick Morris: The toe-sucking publisher of the (possibly) worst political cartoons on the web told serious legitimate journalism source Newsmax that Biden seemed like a “windbag” and a “demagogue,” whose demeanor called into question his very fitness for office:

    “I think that the dominant impression that comes across is that he should not be a heartbeat away from the presidency — a combination of just totally inappropriate smiling while Ryan was talking — and interrupting, the almost heckling that went on in the debate”

  • Smiling, chuckling, and interrupting! What has this world come to? Why can’t our modern-day Vice Presidents have the gravitas of a John Nance “not worth a bucket of warm piss” Garner?

  • Sean Hannity, Eric Bolling, and Greg Gutfeld: The preeminent intellectual heavyweights of Fox News speculated that Biden was drunk during the debate. On Twitter, Hannity wondered “Is there is bourbon in Uncle Joe’s glass?” Bolling tweetsified “Mr. VP Is Interrupting And Laughing.. Is He Still Drinking?” and Gutfeld took a more metaphorical approach:

    “Biden is the drunk at the bar, Martha [Raddatz] is the unhappy bartender, and [Paul] Ryan is the unfortunate salesman caught in the middle”

    This is pretty hilarious, because Joe Biden is Irish, and we all know what hilarious drunkards they are! Oh, also, a 2008 New York Times story stated that Biden, whose grandmother’s family was ravaged by alcoholism, does not touch the stuff:

    “There are enough alcoholics in my family,” he said last month as he sipped cranberry juice on a train ride from Washington to Wilmington.

    But still, Irish drunks are pretty goddamn funny!

  • Rich Lowry: The editor of the National Review, a popular etiquette manual, also compared the debate to “being trapped in a bar next to a know-it-all drunk,” although he at least acknowledged that Biden doesn’t drink. Lowry added that

    Vice President Biden’s mom and dad taught him many things–but not manners….Ryan made a favorable impression. Biden reinforced the impression that he’s a blowhard! Ryan helped his ticket. Biden hurt his.

  • Monica Crowley: The eminently polite radio talker — who demurely entweetened this funny comedy joke on the announcement of Sandra Fluke’s upcoming marriage: “To a man?” — was very upset by the Vice President’s unseemly hijinx:

    On substance, I think Paul Ryan and Joe Biden debated to a draw. But on style, Biden lost the debate with his smug, rude, obnoxious, arrogant, and condescending attitude toward Ryan.

    Doesn’t Joe Biden know that Fox News owns the rights to those adjectives?

  • Gretchen Carlson: The co-host of Fox & Friends, who helped Geraldo Rivera worry about a “lesbian cabal” running the Department of Homeland Security, has discovered that Joe Biden’s terrible conduct was very very insulting to her as a female lady person, while as a Midwesterner, she thinks maybe Paul Ryan was too polite and deferential:

    I mean, just speaking as a woman for a minute. And I really want to know the difference in the gender opinion this morning. Was this more offensive to women, was it more offensive to men, was it not offensive to either? I… and maybe women have felt this more often. I just could not believe how disrespectful he was. And, being from the Midwest as Paul Ryan is as well, there is such a thing as Midwestern sensibilities and Midwestern politeness, and “oh yeah, you go in front of me.” That’s what Paul Ryan was doing.

    Carlson followed up with this ladylike observation about how Biden made her feel, as a woman: “Do you ever feel that way where you just want to deck somebody?” (We are willing to grant Ms. Carlson a tiny bit of latitude, as we suspect she suffers from Stockholm Syndrome as a result of working with super-douche Brian Kilmeade.)

In short, Joe Biden’s impoliteness really rubbed a lot of people who he won’t give interviews to the wrong way.

 

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actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:23 pm

I mean, just speaking as a woman for a minute.

So the other, what, 59 in an hour, the chick's a man?

no_gravity October 12, 2012 at 2:46 pm

If it was Ann Coulter…

YasserArraFeck October 12, 2012 at 2:53 pm

Annie was thinking "That Biden really frosts my balls……"

Pat_Pending October 12, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Hell, after the Fox News Makeup Crew is done, who can tell? Maybe they're ALL trannies and genderfucks…

rickmaci October 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm

He does a pretty good woman but can only hold it for 60 seconds? He needz to spend moar time practicing walking in the high heels.

HogeyeGrex October 12, 2012 at 3:06 pm

Hey, sometimes things become un-tucked.

Gleem McShineys October 12, 2012 at 3:17 pm

Steve Doocy's labia does all the time.

weejee October 12, 2012 at 3:07 pm

Thinking of Gretchen as a dick doesn't overly stretch my sensibilities.

Pap Finn October 12, 2012 at 2:23 pm

Goddamn them all to hell.

SnarkOff October 12, 2012 at 2:24 pm

They're just jealous.

actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:55 pm

Needs moar sad trombone

Negropolis October 13, 2012 at 3:08 am

Yep. They are just jealous that Joe did to Ryan what Mitt did to the president, last week, and that Joe did it better and with the truth.

BadKitty904 October 12, 2012 at 2:24 pm

Stamp, flounce…

PsycWench October 12, 2012 at 2:59 pm

Has anyone used the "They can dish it out but they can't take it" line yet?

elviouslyqueer October 12, 2012 at 2:25 pm

So many self-righteous pontificating windbags, so few rusty, Marburg-encrusted chainsaws.

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:15 pm

I'm not familiar with the term "Marburg".
Is a rusty, Marburg-encrusted chainsaw better or worse than a rusty, Ebola-encrusted chainsaw?

elviouslyqueer October 12, 2012 at 3:29 pm

They're potato-potahtoe, actually. Although Marburg is more fancy because it broke out in Europe.

johnnyzhivago October 12, 2012 at 2:25 pm

Republicans can't handle the truth!

ChillBill October 12, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Can they handle anything?

actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:40 pm

Little boys?

BadKitty904 October 12, 2012 at 2:42 pm

*zing*

YasserArraFeck October 12, 2012 at 2:55 pm

Bags – either the brown paper ones filled with small denomination banknotes, or the brown hairless ones attached to equally brown underage rentboys

Generation[redacted] October 12, 2012 at 2:59 pm

Unquestioning loyalty? They're pretty good at handling that.

Lascauxcaveman October 12, 2012 at 2:27 pm

“Biden is the drunk at the bar, Martha [Raddatz] is the unhappy bartender,

Waitaminute, one of our astute Wonkette commenteers last night was saying it was Martha that was drunk.

Maybe they all went out for a few before the debate and Ryan just turned out to be the mopey, boring drunk. He did get a little word-salady there for awhile, didn't he?

BadKitty904 October 12, 2012 at 2:31 pm

"Ryan is the political whore who does it up against the wall out back…"

Blueb4sinrise October 12, 2012 at 2:38 pm

Yikes, you ARE bad!!

Generation[redacted] October 12, 2012 at 3:00 pm

"Biden's friends held Ryan down on the pinball machine while…"

Okay, now I need a shower.

weejee October 12, 2012 at 3:10 pm

He did get a little word-salady there for awhile

Indeed, with way too much boring iceberg lettuce.

stopthemovie October 12, 2012 at 2:27 pm

Funny I wanted to smack the smirk off lyin Ryan's face .

zumpie October 12, 2012 at 2:35 pm

But hiz eyes had teh sad (which made me laugh)

elviouslyqueer October 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm

I have a basset hound that gives me much the same look as was on Ryan's puss. But the difference here is that I would never ever in a million years envision myself kicking my basset hound square between the nostrils.*

*With votes!

hagajim October 12, 2012 at 2:49 pm

Every time they showed it.

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:18 pm

Bet he's not smirking this morning, haw!

Generation[redacted] October 12, 2012 at 2:27 pm

Paul Ryan obviously scored points on substance when he said, "I guarantee the math adds up." I aced all my math classes simply by using that line on my teachers.

I was also impressed with his astute observation about how Iran has accelerated its nuclear program: "The centrifuges are spinning faster." Wait, CENTRIFUGES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY.

Don't laugh. It's rude.

YasserArraFeck October 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm

"Switch to HYPERSPEEEED!!!! Bwaaahaahahaha!!!!

Steverino247 October 12, 2012 at 3:44 pm

Ludicrous Speed!

MosesInvests October 12, 2012 at 3:50 pm

We've gone plaid!

Generation[redacted] October 12, 2012 at 6:34 pm

Well SOMEBODY jammed Ryan's radar last night.

actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:27 pm

Wait. So suddenly (YOU LIE) manners matter to these people?

ChillBill October 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm

Not the same. Joe Wilson said it during a State of the Union speech, not a debate.

actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:53 pm

Oh yes, that's like shouting at the ballpark, I forgot. No decorum there…

Negropolis October 13, 2012 at 3:10 am

Are you being serious or am I just missing the snark?

WhatTheHeck October 12, 2012 at 2:27 pm

Joe made a lot of republicans take a shower after the debate because they felt violated by his machismo.

Boojum October 12, 2012 at 2:33 pm

A long shower. Oh, wait, that was us.

Texan_Bulldog October 12, 2012 at 2:27 pm

Did Rich Lowry see starbursts when he saw Paulie's working out pics?

A broken clock is right more often Rich Lowry is.

zumpie October 12, 2012 at 2:33 pm

You beat me to it!!!!!!

Also, too, Goober Munster libel!

actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:28 pm

These folks are just spewing malarkey.

Pat_Pending October 12, 2012 at 2:31 pm

gee, I too just wrote 'spew' and 'malarkey'. I feel a meme coming on…

BadKitty904 October 12, 2012 at 2:38 pm

"This is Spew Malarkey, with the evening news…"

Generation[redacted] October 12, 2012 at 2:39 pm

"That's the weather. And now back to you, Spew."

actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:42 pm

"Thanks, Blow Smoke. And now, for sports, we turn to our award winning sports reporter, Barf Baloney. Barf?"

zumpie October 12, 2012 at 2:35 pm

And "stuff"

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 12, 2012 at 3:07 pm

oops. didn't see you there. sorry for stepping on your stuff.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 12, 2012 at 3:04 pm

This is all a bunch of stuff!

ph7 October 12, 2012 at 2:29 pm

Everyone doesn't get a trophy, GOPers.

CommieLibunatic October 12, 2012 at 4:06 pm

Word. I thought they were all about that mean-spirited individualistic stuff.

YouFail4eva October 12, 2012 at 2:29 pm

So Obama has a bad debate performance, everybody loses their shit. Ryan gets his ass handed to him, and the wingnuts say Biden was too aggressive.

That the way this shit be going down?

GunToting[Redacted] October 12, 2012 at 2:49 pm

What are you, new?

NellCote71 October 12, 2012 at 3:01 pm

And young?

Gleem McShineys October 12, 2012 at 2:58 pm

Well, you remember how all the liberals were like OBAMA TOTALLY WON THAT DEBATE, because of his politeness?

Yeah, me neither. Wingnuts either, I suspect.

But of course, being honest with yourself is the first thing you can never do when you're on the version of P90-x exercise program for denying reality.

BadKitty904 October 12, 2012 at 2:29 pm

Whistle past many graveyards, guys?

Pat_Pending October 12, 2012 at 2:29 pm

Or he could have just hit his head repeatedly with the desk every time Ryan politely spewed more Malarkey.

actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:42 pm

I really hoped he'd facepalm once or twice. A double facepalm.

Pat_Pending October 12, 2012 at 2:56 pm

"…turning to News and Views, here's Headesk Facepalm…"

Weenus299 October 12, 2012 at 2:29 pm

Mean ol' Joe, picking on cute little Paulie and his innocent unaborted daugher Bean.

mrblifil October 12, 2012 at 3:18 pm

Seriously did he name his other kids after stuff he saw in the obstetrician's office? "Here are my other kids Forceps, Clamp, Speculum and Little Man in the Boat, because it looks just like a little man in a boat."

BoroPrimorac October 12, 2012 at 3:24 pm

That comment reminded me of every couple I detest.

ChillBill October 12, 2012 at 2:29 pm

With all due respect, fuck them and their mothers.

Mittaplasia October 12, 2012 at 3:20 pm

I'm not fond of the horses they rode in on, either.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 12, 2012 at 3:26 pm

the *dancing* horses thay danced in on?

BigSkullF*ckingDog October 12, 2012 at 2:30 pm

Considering that most of what Ryan said was actually laughable, Bidens response seemed just about right to me.

Blueb4sinrise October 12, 2012 at 2:37 pm

Yep, gave Ryan all the respect that he deserved. More than he deserved really.

weejee October 12, 2012 at 3:12 pm

OT, BTW did you see some spots on your windshield this morning? Seems something weird is going on with the weather.

BigSkullF*ckingDog October 12, 2012 at 3:29 pm

I know! I had to use those whipy things. What are they called?

BTW. For a second I thought you were talking about the bird shit on my car and I was getting creeped out.

weejee October 12, 2012 at 3:34 pm

Didn't mean it to be anything cryptic, just we haven't see rain for 80 some days which is a bit odd in the NW.

BigSkullF*ckingDog October 12, 2012 at 3:37 pm

I actually miss the rain. I don't mind it.

UW8316154 October 12, 2012 at 4:22 pm

I have to pick up new wiper blades, it's been that long since we've had rain. Nice to get some, though. Supposed to storm around there this weekend.

Negropolis October 13, 2012 at 3:14 am

Exact same though I had. It was about time someone accurately displayed what millions of Americans have been feeling for months, now, and it's that most of the shit they spew is so ridiculous and offensive as to not be believed if we hadn't heard it with our own ears.

That Joe was even able to grin and bear that shit this long is nothing short of amazing. Legitimate rape, some girls are easy to rape, outlawing birth control, blowing a whole in the budget and then saying it won't add to the deficit…crazy, crazy offensive shit. The GOP isn't a party, it's a cult of unreality.

Crank_Tango October 12, 2012 at 2:31 pm

Well if old Vinegar Joe was too mean, and Chronic'd Nobama was too nice, maybe there is a happy medium the right wing won't cry about, like maybe Hillary Clinton?

zumpie October 12, 2012 at 2:37 pm

No she'd be an "unladylike, unseemly bitch". Duh!!!

BoroPrimorac October 12, 2012 at 3:25 pm

Too pushy for a woman.

BlueStateLibel October 12, 2012 at 2:49 pm

Hillary would have cleaned his clock. And Rmoney's too.

Pat_Pending October 12, 2012 at 2:58 pm

Oh, to hear the Hillary Cackle (TM)…

Lascauxcaveman October 12, 2012 at 3:12 pm

It sends shivers of fear down the spines* of Republicans.

(*them's as have 'em, that is.)

Negropolis October 13, 2012 at 3:16 am

You remember what they did to Hillary in the 90's, and to her during her presidential run before it was apparent that Obama would be a real challenger, right?

Crank_Tango October 13, 2012 at 7:44 pm

Wait, so you're saying that they would probably be assholes no matter what?

And maybe Barry should just give up on the bipartisan bullshit and just go to the mattresses? Or am I reading to much into it…

Negropolis October 13, 2012 at 9:50 pm

Two words: Vince Foster. We'd still be hearing about him had she been made president and White Water and everything else. And, then for history's sake, they'd have tried to impeach her just like they did to her husband, you know, for shits-and-giggles.

SexySmurf October 12, 2012 at 2:31 pm

Awwwww. Do the little babies need their bottoms wiped?

zumpie October 12, 2012 at 2:38 pm

Well, I'm sure Goober Munster did after OHJB finished butt raping him.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 12, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Whiny babies gonna whine and be babies.

no_gravity October 12, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Typical rethuggies, last week they were all beating their chests and a whoopin' and a hollerin' over Romney's performance as an ass and now this week they're saying Ryan was just being polite rather than just someone who had no answers. Or I should say, full of malarky, (especially since I grew up hearing that word and that I was full of it).

Generation[redacted] October 12, 2012 at 2:33 pm

You know who else accused their opponent of being disrespectful, smug, rude, obnoxious, arrogant, and condescending?

no_gravity October 12, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Attila the Hun?

actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:37 pm

Doug Piranha?

snowpointsecret October 12, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Assad?

zumpie October 12, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Um, all of them, Katie???

Spurning Beer October 12, 2012 at 2:41 pm

Big Bird?

SayItWithWookies October 12, 2012 at 2:42 pm
gurukalehuru October 13, 2012 at 1:52 pm

It was a tie!

SnarkOff October 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm

Krystle Carrington?

BadKitty904 October 12, 2012 at 2:45 pm

The Emperor Nero?

YouFail4eva October 12, 2012 at 2:48 pm

That one dude who was running for treasurer in Kansas, only it turned out he was registered to vote in Nebraska and was a city councilmen in Louisiana?

BlueStateLibel October 12, 2012 at 2:51 pm

France?

Mittaplasia October 12, 2012 at 3:00 pm

Mike Tyson?

elviouslyqueer October 12, 2012 at 3:01 pm

Judd Nelson in The Breakfast Club?

rickmaci October 12, 2012 at 3:02 pm

Gandhi

Monsieur_Grumpe October 12, 2012 at 3:06 pm
tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Tom Terrific and Mighty Manfred the Wonder Dog FTW!

HouseOfTheBlueLights October 12, 2012 at 3:34 pm

He's rotten to the core!

bobbert October 12, 2012 at 11:15 pm

Dinsdale?

gurukalehuru October 13, 2012 at 1:53 pm

Heinz Doofenschmirz?

TootsStansbury October 12, 2012 at 2:33 pm

Hey, the little runt in the cartoon looks like Li'l Pauly Butthurt

ManchuCandidate October 12, 2012 at 2:35 pm

All the crying and pissing and moaning just shows how badly Mean Joe Biden pounded the shit out of Ryan.

The right-tards know it. Their boy get beaten like the way they wished they could beat a poor person.

BadKitty904 October 12, 2012 at 2:46 pm

They're ALL for a level playing field when they're losing…

NellCote71 October 12, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Got beaten like the red-headed stepchild he is.

Toomush_Infer October 12, 2012 at 2:35 pm

So, when Obama was a tad off his game, MSNBC had a shitfit about his "terrible performance", and when Ryan sucked, FOX stands up for the poor, benighted boor who shouldn't have had to take all that smiley shellacking? I'm an oldz, but I'm ready to climb in the ring with the entire cage match of FAUX FAUKEES…..

Negropolis October 13, 2012 at 3:17 am

This is the difference between liberals and conservatives. Quite frankly, on the optics of things, I wish we'd be more incredulous, sometime.

Exhausted66 October 12, 2012 at 2:37 pm

It's disrespectful to NOT laugh at a clown.

actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:38 pm

To me, Paul Ryan looked like the kid who studied for his final for about an hour and then tossed the book aside to play his X box.

NellCote71 October 12, 2012 at 3:04 pm

But was arrogant to think he was smarter than all the other kids because his mother told him he was. One of those his-grades-are-bad-because-he's-bored moms.

Gratuitous World October 12, 2012 at 2:38 pm

i'll get drunk for biden twice tonight.

SayItWithWookies October 12, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Awww — the poor bullying mongoloids who routinely compare President Obama to Hitler were getting pushed around last night. I hope they all live in states where whiny sissies are allowed to marry each other so they all have a shoulder to cry on.

SheriffRoscoe October 12, 2012 at 2:41 pm

That's why I love Joe so much. He got in the bully's face and laughed and kicked his ass, all without losing that twinkle in his eye, for even a second.

BadKitty904 October 12, 2012 at 2:48 pm

Truly. He def. had that charming, jolly "Fuck you, ya little pissant" thing goin' on…and Ryan obviously knew it.

Slim_Pickins October 12, 2012 at 2:40 pm

OT, but did anyone ask Ryan why he also is running for Congress?

SayItWithWookies October 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm

Some rats never have more than two feet on the sinking ship.

NellCote71 October 12, 2012 at 3:05 pm

He's like a rat swimming away from a sinking ship (tip of the hat to Ralph Yarborough, describing John Connelly's defection to the GOP, back in the day).

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 12, 2012 at 2:51 pm

Because he's a fucking coward, that's why.

Also, he won't debate his Congressional opponent. Because he's a fucking coward.

actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm

Last night could not have helped him even there

DemmeFatale October 12, 2012 at 3:24 pm

Especially because he asked not to be addressed as "Congressman."

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:30 pm

Because he's a conniving, opportunistic little shit who hedges his bets, would be my guess.

viennawoods13 October 12, 2012 at 4:24 pm

You probably don't want to go there. Smilin' Joe ran for the Senate (and won, natch) in 2008.

Respitetini October 12, 2012 at 2:40 pm

Lol. Butthurt Republicans are funniest when they're butthurt about being beaten at their own game.

Stellaa October 12, 2012 at 2:41 pm

You know, the GOP boys bluster, scream and attack. When they get their own medicine the cry and whine. They ask for protection and look for solace in blaming the others. Victimhood anyone?

It seems to me that Ryan and Romney share a smirk. They are always smirking. When did big toothy smiles become a negative and smirks become a sign of civility?

no_gravity October 12, 2012 at 2:44 pm

Smirks are something hyenas and frat boys do.

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:37 pm

That was a pretty good episode of "Buffy".

ManchuCandidate October 12, 2012 at 2:41 pm

Ryan was supposed to be the intellectual of the bunch. The bright shining light. The beacon of intelligence in the GOPer ranks.

The fact that a man considered by the pundit class to be a goofball intellectually beat the shit out of Ryan and handed him his head, balls AND ass on national TV says a lot more about the GOPers than it does about Biden's rudeness.

This batch of GOPers are full of cognitive dissonance and mostly fucking stupid.

PsycWench October 12, 2012 at 2:46 pm

"Ryan was supposed to be the intellectual of the bunch. The bright shining light. The beacon of intelligence in the GOPer ranks. "

How sad is that?

Fare la Volpe October 12, 2012 at 3:40 pm

In the valley of the blind, the one-eyed man is VP candidate.

BoroPrimorac October 12, 2012 at 3:36 pm

He's a numbers guy, also.

YasserArraFeck October 12, 2012 at 4:29 pm

Hey, Numbers Guy? How many fingers in this knuckle sammich?

qwerty42 October 12, 2012 at 4:21 pm

…The fact that a man considered by the pundit class to be a goofball …
Was Joe on the Senate Intelligence Committee or the Senate Foreign Relations? I don't know why anyone would think Ryan would be able to go against him on foreign policy. As for our "pundit class", well …

miss_grundy October 12, 2012 at 6:31 pm

I think Joe served on the Foreign Relations committee but I may be wrong. But he knows more about what is happening in the world than Eddie Munster.

fuflans October 12, 2012 at 6:34 pm

this is what we have been saying over and over: who killed all the smart people and handed paul ryan that crown?

seriously, dude pedals recycled ayn rand and 1980s era talking points.

and has NEVER had to defend himself the way he did last night.

bobbert October 12, 2012 at 11:46 pm

"this is what we have been saying over and over: who killed all the smart people and handed paul ryan that crown? "

Um. Republicans.

Scattered and incoherent as Ryan is (which is a whole bunch of scattered and incoherent), who else among the Repos has even the simulation of intellectual heft? Crisco? Jebbie? That no-name in Virginia? MITT????

The US of A is in deep shit, because the party that commands the allegiance of almost half of the voters is headed (and has been headed for at least thirty years) by people with the intellectual depth of a spirochete. Unfortunately, you don't have to be smart to be able to tell what people want to hear, and , in fact, not being smart is probably an advantage when you tell them a bunch of self-contradictory shit (it keeps your head from exploding).

Lyin' Ryan has pissed me off for years, especially because I grew up in Wisconsin. As Clinton pointed out, Ryan's failures are not in exotic mathematics, they are in simple fucking arithmetic. The dickhead has managed to parlay his slightly weird- looking and soft-spoken persona into being perceived as a "serious" legislator, despite the fact that he doesn't have a fucking clue about pretty much anything.

Gaaah.

mbobier October 12, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Well, Gretchen Carlson makes me want to punch somebody, so pick a winner.

miss_grundy October 12, 2012 at 6:32 pm

I say punch Gretchen the Wretched. It's about time these jerks at Faux News have to use their health insurance for plastic surgery.

SexySmurf October 12, 2012 at 2:42 pm

OT News just keeps getting better for Obama. First, everybody got their jobs back, then Biden took off his rings and pimp slapped Eddie Munster, and now Mittens has the vote of Lindsay Lohan (assuming she's still alive in November).

zumpie October 12, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Mitty has the uber coveted hasbeen, substance abusing teen starlet/porn queen demo allz locked up! Rumour has it. Tara Reid's gonna start opening his rallies!

rickmaci October 12, 2012 at 3:07 pm

When you have the Lindsay Lohan/Donald Trump voter demo you really have a pretty good idea of where your electoral future is going.

zippy_w_pinhead October 12, 2012 at 3:47 pm

don't forget aging porn star Jenna…

bobbert October 12, 2012 at 11:48 pm

I prefer to refer to previous versions of Jenna.

Mittaplasia October 12, 2012 at 3:16 pm

Speaking of Ms. Lohan, a little drunken ditty comes to mind:

One is my limit
Two at the most
Three I'm under the table
and Four, I'm under the host.

Lascauxcaveman October 12, 2012 at 3:29 pm

Assuming LiLo is registered* in NY, CA (or maybe NJ?), she can vote for Mitt all she wants and it won't make much difference.

*probably isn't, at all.

YasserArraFeck October 12, 2012 at 4:28 pm

Assuming, also, that she doesn't crash her car into the polling station

mavenmaven October 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm

In other words, Biden won the debate.

Callyson October 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm

Oh FFS–people on FOX want to complain about someone being rude?

BadKitty904 October 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm

And today's "Captain Louis Renault Award" for hypocrisy goes to…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1DEG6BWgp0

mbatch October 12, 2012 at 3:40 pm

Ooooh, nice one! Rick would also have kicked Ryan's ass.

CommieLibunatic October 12, 2012 at 4:22 pm

Lemme guess: Rudeness of this subject and caliber are tantamount to the Holocaust?

IncenseDebate October 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm

You pretty much know what is coming from these douches next week if Obama says anything remotely inpolite to Romney.

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:42 pm

Yeah, "Blah blah angry violent blah militant blah blah all the libs are so angry I'd like to scratch their angry eyes out and then string them up by their angry necks blah blah".

I know President Obama is of the "Can't we all get along?" school of thought, but if he does anything but finish what Joe started, I'm going to be one VERY disappointed gal.

I really hope he doesn't do that "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" thing that the Dems are unfortunately so good at.
They're on the ground! Finish them! At this point, no seriously, it's a mercy killing. Finish them!

Veritas78 October 12, 2012 at 7:30 pm

Uppity will be the first word in the phrase.

Negropolis October 13, 2012 at 3:22 am

Yep, that's why we better come out in unision the second the thing ends just crowing about how Obama is the greatest leader ever. Really, no more of this moping bullshit.

BTW, I want to hear 47% so many times next Tuesday it's not even funnny.

prommie October 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm

Well, I am not trying to be mean, but that Pauline Ryan is kind of a homely girl, and it must be hard for her, you know, the poor thing, and that just makes it even more terrible for that mean old Joe Biden to be so rude and mean to her.

BigSkullF*ckingDog October 12, 2012 at 2:49 pm

GIRL LIBEL!

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 12, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Really. Women are tougher than this whiny twerp.

GunToting[Redacted] October 12, 2012 at 2:44 pm

Too bad Joe didn't tell Screech to "Go fuck himself." We all know that the Repubs are OK with that type of discourse.

Hammiepants October 12, 2012 at 2:45 pm

Ryan was a little bitch, and I heartily laughed my ass off at him, so I think OHJB was really behaving more or less like your average human being.

BadKitty904 October 12, 2012 at 3:00 pm

Handsome Joe DEF. has the Common Touch. Ryan, on the other hand, has all the warmth and charm of a water moccasin…

BlueStateLibel October 12, 2012 at 2:46 pm

Yeah right, the Vice President of the United States should show all deference to the wittle congressman that's still wet behind the ears. Joe kicked the little pup's ass like a champ.

One_who_wanders October 12, 2012 at 2:47 pm

I posted a link to the whole article over in Wonkville but here is my favorite paragraph:

"There is a deeply held Beltway myth of Paul Ryan, Man of Big Ideas, and it dies hard. But, if there is a just god in the universe, on Thursday night, it died a bloody death, was hurled into a pit, doused with quicklime, buried without ceremony, and the ground above it salted and strewn with garlic so that it never rises again. On foreign policy, Ryan occasionally rose, gasping, to the level of obvious neophyte. (He was more lost in Afghanistan than the Russian army ever was.) On domestic policy, his alleged wheelhouse, he was vague, untruthful, and he walked right into a haymaker he should have seen coming from a mile off, when he started bloviating about Biden's role in the "failed" stimulus program, only to have Biden slap him around with Ryan's own requests for stimulus money for his home district back in Wisconsin. He also made it quite clear that a Romney-Ryan White House will do everything it can to eliminate a woman's right to choose. This should make for some fine television commercials over the next few weeks."

actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:51 pm

It was the whole "stimulus" thing that frankly took me by surprise. How do you not know that not only does Biden still have the letters– he has to, by law– but he posted them to the campaign website?

They're going to be an issue, and you damn well better have an excuse for sending them that doesn't imply that your district needed jobs.

Also, the whole nonsense about "Scranton having an unemployment rate of 10%" So? So what!

Biden was DELAWARE'S Senator, not Scranton, Pennsylvania. You have a problem with their unemployment rate, you talk to the Congresscritter from that district or the Senators from PA.

miss_grundy October 12, 2012 at 6:40 pm

There were lots of Repugs who not only asked for money but also had their pictures taken with the big check in front of construction projects that were done because of the stimulus money. Yet so many of them were against it.

PugglesRule October 12, 2012 at 3:05 pm

Charlie Pierce nailed it. ZEGS (zombie-eyed granny starver) Ryan got his ass whooped.

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:40 pm

This was just made of awesome.

actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:47 pm

And, being from the Midwest as Paul Ryan is as well, there is such a thing as Midwestern sensibilities and Midwestern politeness, and “oh yeah, you go in front of me.”

It's a debate not a TeaParty, Blondie.

Now shut up and uncross your legs for the camera. Again.

LibertyLover October 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm

Maybe it really is a Tea Party.

I don't remember too many Tea Party members being all Midwestern sensible or polite a couple of years ago….

SayItWithWookies October 12, 2012 at 2:59 pm

I'd rather she uncross her eyes, thankyouverymuch. The legs can stay as they are.

Blueb4sinrise October 12, 2012 at 2:48 pm

tsuris:A Yiddish phrase for worries, stress, or hassle

[no, I don't know many Yiddish words. So sue me.]

actor212 October 12, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Aggravation is more accurate. And alternate spellings include "tsouris"

– Signed
About as goy as they come.

Blueb4sinrise October 12, 2012 at 3:07 pm

Thanks, I'll know who to ask in an emergency.

[sorry, that wasn't you, the Borg took me over there for a sec]

finallyhappy October 12, 2012 at 3:24 pm

I thought tsouris was a certain kind of french mouse

bobbert October 12, 2012 at 11:51 pm

Are these the mousecakes we like? (Oh, wait, that was from Consumer Reports. Sorry).

Gleem McShineys October 12, 2012 at 3:25 pm

Oh, look its the Goy Agenda

mrpuma2u October 12, 2012 at 3:43 pm

I know that Ryan looked like a shmuck, a putz, and shmendrick.

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:51 pm

A schlemeil and a momzer, also too.

Lascauxcaveman October 12, 2012 at 3:52 pm

And that Joe Biden is a real mensch; but not to a golem like Ryan.

miss_grundy October 12, 2012 at 6:41 pm

And he had a conniption as OHJB slapped him around……

notreelyhelping October 12, 2012 at 2:49 pm

It's a pity Mr. Biden couldn't have been more of a gentleman, like that nice Mr. Cheney back in 2004.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 12, 2012 at 2:50 pm

Also Geraldo Rivera said Joe Biden was "overdramatic".

Ahem, Geraldo FUCKING Rivera said Biden was over-FUCKING-dramatic?

He should have closed himself up in that vault all those years ago and just stayed there House of Usher style.

Yeah yeah, "with votes". Sure..
http://www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/rivera-bide

rickmaci October 12, 2012 at 3:17 pm

Jerry Rivers' career has been as dead as NotBriteFart's corpse for two decades.

Porter Melmoth October 12, 2012 at 3:30 pm

Roderick Usher would've known where to have him sit, too: right under a 10-ton truss – COMIN' DOWN!

HouseOfTheBlueLights October 12, 2012 at 3:39 pm

And this was a surprise, why? Have these guys ever *seen* Biden before?

Mittaplasia October 12, 2012 at 3:46 pm

This from the guy who caused the creation of a new "disease" – sex addiction?

Callyson October 12, 2012 at 2:50 pm

Also, speaking of butthurt…Think Progress has a good takedown of Lyin' Ryan:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/12/1002

hagajim October 12, 2012 at 2:50 pm

Did anyone notice during the Medicare discussion that Ryan said medical coverage for older poors would be all "out-of-pocket". Last time I checked out-of-pocket meant you had to pay for the shit yourself. Freudian slip or Romney platform?

ManchuCandidate October 12, 2012 at 3:04 pm

Both

Gleem McShineys October 12, 2012 at 3:29 pm

Lets say it is platform, until someone on the campaign walks it back.

So, to answer your question…yes…?

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:56 pm

1st researcher: What does it mean?
2nd researcher: What do *you* think it means?
Simpsons, "Hurricane Neddy" ep

Troglodeity October 12, 2012 at 2:52 pm

So Gretchen Carlson, "just speaking as a woman for a minute," hated Biden? That's strange … my normally non-political wife was pretty impressed with what Biden said – especially about reproductive rights and rape versus "forcible rape" – and how he said it.

Oh no, my wife must be a man! How will I break the news to our children?

BadKitty904 October 12, 2012 at 3:09 pm

With a straight face?

LibertyLover October 12, 2012 at 2:55 pm

I have to wonder if Obama's instinct not to go all "angry blah man" on Romeny's backside in the first debate might have been the correct one.

Fox and Foes don't like it when Democrats quit being doormats and start swinging and talkin' back.

HouseOfTheBlueLights October 12, 2012 at 4:51 pm

Especially when they're blah

Blunderthing October 12, 2012 at 2:56 pm

I never met a child yet who, after having been taken to the woodshed, didn't think their father was a monster. Boo fucking hoo you pansies.

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 4:01 pm

All children are abused, according to children:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/majority-of-pare

TavariousChinaSmith October 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm

Spin spin spin…

How did you feel about that debate, undecided voter? Did you feel, as many did, that creepy old drunk Joe Biden was grossly impolite to gracious, earnest, caring Paul Ryan? Please give us your unbiased opinion.

BigSkullF*ckingDog October 12, 2012 at 2:58 pm

That's funny. To me Paul Ryan seems like the guy at the bar who will not shut the fuck up about how many push ups he can do and how much money he supposedly made last year. I fucking hate that guy.

BadKitty904 October 12, 2012 at 3:11 pm

They're fun to beat-to-hell'n'gone at pool, tho…

Biff October 12, 2012 at 3:28 pm

Poor hapless Al Bundy at least made 3 touchdowns in a single game!

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 4:03 pm

The asshole in the next cubicle who tells you how his powerpoint presentation is "so money".

Negropolis October 13, 2012 at 3:27 am

This.

kittensdontlie October 12, 2012 at 2:59 pm

It was an epic battle of good versus evil last night!! What are the oddsmakers saying now! The back and forth, the audibles, the unsportsmanlike conduct, where the clashing of the titans ended with the Steelers coming up short. Go Titans!

barto October 12, 2012 at 2:59 pm

Carlson did leave the possibility open for hot make-up sex with mean old handsome Joe, however.

YasserArraFeck October 12, 2012 at 3:03 pm

I don't think Ryan did that badly, but compared to Biden, he's a lightweight. He couldn't lift Old Handsome Joe's nuts….

pdiddycornchips October 12, 2012 at 3:03 pm

It's just not fair to be so mean to a Republican. What makes it even worse is Biden repeated Ryan's horrific record of deficit spending back to him in front of the whole nation! They've been trying to hide that for months now and mean 'ol Joe comes along and ruins it for everyone.

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:05 pm

YOU GUYZ, BUTTHURT IS SRS BSN!!

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 12, 2012 at 3:14 pm

There are creams for that, you know.

el_donaldo October 12, 2012 at 3:05 pm

Haha. If Ryan weren't such a habitual and shameless liar, Biden wouldn't have mocked and interrupted him.

It's like a teenager who got ripped and wrecked the family wagon and now is totally pissed at his parents for grounding him.

NellCote71 October 12, 2012 at 3:10 pm

". . . .and now is totally pissed at his parents for grounding him." Because it is so unfair.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 12, 2012 at 3:16 pm

Can't you just see Ryan pouting in his room, cranking Rage Against the Machine, punching his pillows and crying?

Biff October 12, 2012 at 3:31 pm

I don't think Tom Morello would like that, not at all!

Fare la Volpe October 12, 2012 at 3:42 pm

"Ayn Rand, only YOU understand how special I am."

Negropolis October 13, 2012 at 3:32 am

"….said Ryan, dressed up as his favorite anti-hero while tonguing his framed picture of her…"

Tundra Grifter October 12, 2012 at 3:05 pm

Litte known fact! If President Obama had been much more polite to the Russians, and remembered to extend his pinky when sipping from his teacup, they would have agreed to even stronger sanctions against the murderous government of Syria.

You just can't put too much emphasis on manners in heavy international negotiations! Que Daffy would have pulled out of Libya and taken the first plane to Switzerland or some African nation if he'd just been asked to do so nicely.

And don't get me started on Iran…

T3rbo October 12, 2012 at 3:06 pm

Say what you want about the right-wing media establishment, but they know exactly what they are doing. Even in this hard left quasi forum, we can't stop talking about what they want us to talk about, which is Biden's demeanor. This, to them, is better than anyone talking about what a disaster the debate was for Ryan and for the ticket's talking points.
Compare this to the Obama's camp that let the media decide, for themselves, what the outcome and narrative of the first debate was. They had an emergency plan, deployed in real time, to control the disaster that was Biden V Ryan, and Obama's team had nothing. Both Obama and Ryan got creamed in their debates, but look at what we are talking about as if it were a real issue

NellCote71 October 12, 2012 at 3:11 pm

Oh, don't be so pragmatic. We need our high-dudgeon moment.

T3rbo October 12, 2012 at 3:31 pm

I'm just saying, this is just a republican talking point that is intended to dominate all discussion of the debate. If we can argue about Biden being rude (or Obama being downtrodden and polite), it's better than arguing about how Ryan has no fucking idea what he is talking about. Case in point:
I'm in Colorado, and it's snowing in the mountains today and or raining. By Ryan's logic, presented last night, the mountain passes here are still navigable because it's not winter yet just like the passes in Afghanistan are still navigable (on horseback and foot) because it's not winter yet. Ryan made a point to criticize the president for ending the surge too early, before the fighting season ended. Except, when you look into it, the fighting season ends in the fall, according to one soldier's account, right after Ramadan. Which ended in the middle of August. And the surge, which was the point of the argument last night, ended in September. Which is when it starts to get nasty in all mountain areas in the Northern Hemisphere.
I bring this up because there are a few articles praising Ryan's foreign policy chops, and the Right wing trolls in the comments are laying down a good base of covering fire by arguing about…Biden being rude. Ryan has no idea what he is talking about in more than one area, and the conversation should be (IMHO), yes, Biden certainly was spirited, but Ryan seemed to not really have a grasp of facts. But it's not.

bobbert October 13, 2012 at 12:03 am

You make a sort of interesting point, but I think you err in specializing it to Wonkette.

If we here discuss OHJ's demeanor rather than Lyin's incompetence, it isn't going to impact the broader debate in any significant way. Now, if the RWM is able to diffuse general popular attention to Lyin's incompetence by focusing on OHJ's demeanor, then they will have scored an undeserved gain. But we can't really do anything about that, other than wait to see what happens.

Biel_ze_Bubba October 12, 2012 at 3:13 pm

Obama was too polite — Big Issue!
Biden was impolite — Big Issue!

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 4:17 pm

If your larger point is that we need to take control of what the discussion is going to be, how it is going to be framed, and on whose playing field it is going to take place — as the right has — then I wholeheartedly agree.

However, I will go so far as to say that I've seen plenty of posts, on Wonkette and elsewhere, giving Ryan a richly deserved reaming for both the *quality* (evasive, parroting talking points instead of answering the question) and the *content* (20% tax cuts wtih no way to pay for them, abortion only in cases of rape) of his part in the debate.

T3rbo October 12, 2012 at 4:23 pm

Yes, that is my point exactly. The "biden was rude" talking point is an attempt to re-frame the debate. Instead of "Ryan got his ass handed to him, big fucking time," the framework is now "Biden was so so rude and mean," and we are totally buying into it. Countering with "Ha ha, republicans are such total pussies" does no good if you accept the framework of the argument: we are having their debate instead of ours.
The problem isn't so much that wonks and wonkettes are having this conversation, it's that this re-frame of the debate is totally working on the media.

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 4:32 pm

It's probably worth pointing out, too, that despite the incessant whining and squealing on the right, there really is no such thing as a "liberal media", and hasn't been for decades.

Ever since Uncle Raygun eliminated the Fairness Doctrine, Fox, the WSJ, et. al. have dominated the media and control what we see/read and how it's framed (for one example, family leave and workplace safety are the concerns of 100 times as many people as the stock market, but represented 100 times less). If networks were still mandated by law to provide equal time for opposing viewpoints, the media would be very different from its present configuration.

T3rbo October 12, 2012 at 4:50 pm

It seems like there is only a right wing media machine(fox etc.), a weak left wing machine (MSNBC and the like), and the entertainment news industry(cnn, nightly news, etc.). The right wing machine is acting like a big smoke screen right now, pretending like the issue is Joe the Elder being a terrible interrupter. The entertainment industry is picking up on it because it's a carefully crafted story that has an element of truth to it, and I think there is a very correct perception by the entertainment industry that issues only sort of matter to undecided voters.
The right wing machine did a very smart thing by creating a story that partisans of either inclination will become interested in and react to, and the same story entertains the undecided low information voters (Look at Joe's funny smiles!).
For sure, Regan was one of the worst presidents we have seen (bar is a bit…low), but I can't entertain the fantasy that anyone will ever change things so that the news is the news again. It's twilight in America…

Biel_ze_Bubba October 12, 2012 at 3:06 pm

Ryan's so-called plan is "mathematically possible" only if certain assumptions — robust economic growth, in particular — are taken as givens.
In other words, if you assume that the Ryan plan will work, Ryan can show you that the plan will work. The logic is impeccable.

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:07 pm

"Fine! THAT'S JUST FINE!! Who cares about a stupid debate!?? We didn't WANT to win your stupid debate for jerks ANYWAY!"
*SLAM!*
*STEP Step Step step step*

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:08 pm

Yes, why couldn't Joe Biden have been polite and reserved, like that nice Cullid boy in that *other* debate?
He seems very clean…

marianCali October 12, 2012 at 3:09 pm

It's Friday, so I am hoping for a discussion of Peggy Noonan's new column which teaches us why you shouldn't confuse strength with aggression (sadly, the ultimate icon of strength, her former boss, remains unmentioned). Pretty please, Wonkette ?!

Blueb4sinrise October 12, 2012 at 3:10 pm

Austin City Limits Music Festival on YT
http://www.youtube.com/aclfestival?feature=inp-lt

bobbert October 13, 2012 at 12:09 am

So, I'm on the re-broadcast, but thank you very much anyway.

Edit: Oh, man, really major thanks. Tremendous stuff.

Gleem McShineys October 12, 2012 at 3:11 pm

I feel sorry for these wingtards. I mean, who doesn't admit that Romney came out ahead in the last debate?
Is there someone out there that was all "I BELIEVE THE QUIET COLORED MAN SHOWED SPECTACULAR HUMBLE MEEK DECORUM AND THEREFORE, HATH WON THIS CONTEST"? Could you find even one editorial in the left-leaning media tube-o-sphere, or anywhere?

I mean, I feel kind of bad. They actually have to live with themselves, which is pretty awful. Then to have to look to people like Gretchen Carlson or Rich Lowry or Tucker Carlson to affirm a false belief.

That can't really feel all that good, that is, if they have any humanity left. I mean, fuck them, it's a choice after all, you know? But still. I cringe a little for their poor tattered souls.

T3rbo October 12, 2012 at 3:39 pm

Yeah, the "biden was an old rude" meme is probably a defense mechanism that serves to protect the fragile right wing intellect. It's like a mantra, meant to block out all harmful stimuli and soothe the spirit.
Vouchers will destroy medicare? BIDEN IS RUDE BIDEN WAS RUDE BIDEN IS RUDE (first chakra begins to open)
Oh, now you're jack kennedy? BIDEN IS RUUUUDE BIDEN WAS RUUUDE BIDEN IS RUUDE
What loopholes are you going to close exactly? AHHHH!!! BIDEN RUDE BIDEN RUDE BIDEN RUDE

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:13 pm

"Oh, Ashley!", cried Scarlett, "Nothing has turned out as we expected!"

mrblifil October 12, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Yeah but they LURVED it when Mitt dangled sad befuddled Jim Lehrer's job in front of his nose and snatched it away at the last second, in front of 67M people. That's gentlemanliness.

MittBorg October 12, 2012 at 3:15 pm

Is it wrong of me to bwahaha and rub my hands together with many larfs of larfingkment as I read this hilariously teary snivelling?

If this is wrong I don't want to be RI-I-I-I-GHT!!!

OneYieldRegular October 12, 2012 at 3:16 pm

Call me insensitive, but I was impressed that Biden didn't grab a pair of scissors, pin Ryan down to the ground, and cut off his widow's peak.

GeorgiaBurning October 12, 2012 at 3:17 pm

I see the two of them going outside the bar for a fight. Five minutes later Joe comes back inside combing his hair and tucking in his wrinkled shirt. There's a few scrapes on his knuckles but that's it. Another five minutes later, Ryan is being eased through the door into a booth. Poor Paul has a limp, black eye, oddly bent arm and, talking in a very high voice, claims he slipped off the curb. Later, the emergency room doctor says if the knife went a little higher it would have gotten both testicles. Still, Paul has to pee sitting down for a month.

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 4:19 pm

I enjoyed that WAY more than I should have.
I guess I'm just not a peaceful person.

Allmighty_Manos October 12, 2012 at 3:19 pm

Well, at least these same folks are consistent – remember all the praise Obama got from the right for his very calm, nonpartisan demeanor during the last debate

Jerri October 12, 2012 at 3:21 pm

I don't find being condescended to polite, but whatever I guess Paul Ryan is just being a nice, helpful man when he talks.

And all these whiny GOPer titty babies with their hurt feelings. Grow a dick and get back in the game. This is politics, not tee-ball. Yer man failed! Better luck next time.

shelwood46 October 12, 2012 at 5:02 pm

I'll just leave this here: http://mansplainingryan.tumblr.com/

Gleem McShineys October 12, 2012 at 5:50 pm

EVERY DAY I LOVE AL GORE MORE AND MORE

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:21 pm

I think this sums it up best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7noSTPukX8

Porter Melmoth October 12, 2012 at 3:27 pm

Despite his Eddie Munster looks and his Eddie Haskell demeanor, did you see how Ry looked at OH-Joe? With the utmost pathos, sympathy, and loving understanding! Don't miss the subtleties, gang!

BadKitty904 October 12, 2012 at 3:36 pm

People will say they're in love…

ChrisM2011 October 12, 2012 at 3:29 pm

And I bet they were all undecideds too! Thanks a lot, Biden! We're gonna lose the douche bag vote now!

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:32 pm

Whiny hypocrites are whiny. And hypocritical.

Geminisunmars October 12, 2012 at 3:33 pm

If you ask me, there was too much bald-faced Ryan in this debate.

ChickTract_Fil_A October 12, 2012 at 3:50 pm

I feast on their whine.

Mittaplasia October 12, 2012 at 3:55 pm

I would like to take Ryan out with 50,000 volts…er, VOTES!

smitallica October 12, 2012 at 3:57 pm

Translation:
Why wouldn't Joe just sit quietly and let his opponent spew baldfaced lies with impunity all night? You know, like Obama did!

zippy_w_pinhead October 12, 2012 at 3:59 pm

Shorter GOP "It's just not fair when you hit back!"

HelmutNewton October 12, 2012 at 4:02 pm

I just love it when the macho manly-men of the right get their panties in a twist…

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 4:04 pm

This has been their schtick since the Reagan years: That it's somehow bad form to report their words accurately and/or ask questions and/or call them out on their shit.

For ONCE, they didn't get their way, and I for one think that should be the rule, not the exception.

glamourdammerung October 12, 2012 at 4:06 pm

So they are trying to play on stereotypes of the Irish being a bunch of problematic drunkards? Seriously?!?!

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 4:24 pm

You know, if you're an unemployed loser like me, you end up watching at least some court TV shows, and about once a day, right after the girl who lent money to her boyfriend and never got it back, there are two guys who got in a fight.

And the judge, whoever he or she is, always says the same thing: "You're the one who got in a fight of your own free will; there was no guarantee that you'd win, and you don't get to complain now because you're losing".

This is why that side loses every fair fight, and why they still haven't gotten over the Civil War: They're so pigfucking stupid they truly don't understand that they're not guaranteed to get their way.

superdave October 12, 2012 at 4:59 pm

Put on your big boy pants, ya pansies!

Lynne October 12, 2012 at 8:00 pm

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen, little Paulie. You want to go where the big boys play, and you won't have anyone to hold your hand then either.

Cheneysleftnut October 12, 2012 at 9:01 pm

OK. So who plays Joe Biden the movie? Brian Dennehy? Woody Harrelson? George C. Scott? There was so much spin on this story that I have not stopped throwing up since 9:30a…

gurukalehuru October 13, 2012 at 2:25 pm

I was running through the names, looking for some Hollywood actor who would make a funny answer to this question, but it struck me who really should play Biden in the movie.

This is snark free: Jim Carrey.

zerosumgame0005 October 12, 2012 at 10:15 pm

Put you money in fainting couch futures!

Negropolis October 13, 2012 at 3:05 am

As a Midwesterner, let me tell you what Midwestern Nice really means. It means letting a man – and always a man, because an opinionated women is not "lady-like" – say and make all kinds of scurrilous claims as you sit and nod and smile and demure until the end and go home. It's the cousin of "Southern Hospitality". Now, Minnesota Nice is a subset of Midwestern Nice that's a bit more passive-aggressive.

Either way, painting Ryan is too decent of a man is so silly as to be offensive, as if that even needs to be said.

Negropolis October 13, 2012 at 3:30 am

I keep hearing people say "well, Ryan didn't do that bad." Joe didn't just dominant Ryan on style and sheer stage presence, but he dominated him with the facts, unlike in the Obama-Romney debate. Joe took that shit and stuffed it right back down Paul Ryan's throat. That Paul Ryan didn't cry is not a sign that he "held his own", which is the phrase I keep hearing. Joe took that little bastard back to school and paddled him in front of the class.

ttommyunger October 13, 2012 at 11:17 pm

Does anyone want a man who can be bullied to be a heart-beat away from the Oval Office?

lulzmonger October 14, 2012 at 11:52 pm

Civility was present in abundance as far as I saw … but then I'm a bit weird: I was brought up to believe that letting dangerous bullshit slide by WITHOUT interrupting it was much more rude than interrupting its progress, breathlessly flouncing Etiquette Gestapo be damned.

*awaits attack ads from RaisedByWolves SuperPAC*

Lex October 15, 2012 at 1:00 pm

So, suppose, just for the sake of argument, that Biden HAD been drinking. This means that Ryan got his ass handed to him by a 69-year-old drunk guy.

Pat_Pending October 12, 2012 at 2:54 pm

"…and in the traffic copter, Loada Crap…"

elviouslyqueer October 12, 2012 at 2:56 pm

"Live, from the anchor desk, Stew Pidfuchs and Dick Upthabum."

tessiee October 12, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Morbo libel!

Fare la Volpe October 12, 2012 at 3:27 pm

Good evening, I'm Phuckt Nightly…

Doktor Zoom October 12, 2012 at 3:27 pm

It's Arnie Pie, with "Arnie in the Sky"

Pat_Pending October 12, 2012 at 3:36 pm

“…as God is my witness I swore turkeys could fly.”

viennawoods13 October 12, 2012 at 4:21 pm

always a winner.

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