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Gallaudet University’s Diversity Officer Not Really A Fan Of Diverse People

Gaaasp!Not all is well at Gallaudet University, D.C.’s college for the deaf and hard of hearing.

The problem is from Dr. Angela McCaskill, GU’s associate provost of diversity and inclusion — she’s got an ax to grind, rather inconveniently for her, with diversity and inclusion.

Though the GU president is on video describing McCaskill as a “long-time devoted advocate of social justice and equity causes,” it recently came out that McCaskill signed a petition against Maryland’s gay-marriage law, coming up as a ballot measure in November.

How could this happen? How could the same lady who, as the Washington Post explains, “helped to open a resource center on campus for sexual minorities,” have views against gay marriage? You will never, ever guess her reason.

Just kidding. It’s church.

Planet Deafqueer (YES it’s real shut up) broke the news Oct. 8 that she had signed the petition:

When confronted by the faculty member, Dr. McCaskill confirmed that she had in fact signed the petition and explained that she had done so while at church, after her preacher had preached against gay marriage. As she was leaving, her husband pointed to the petition and she signed it without giving it further thought.

In case any Gallaudet U students missed any of that: Your diversity officer — the person at the school charged with protecting and promoting equality — signed a little paper that says some folks just aren’t quite equal, because somebody with an old book and a robe convinced her that tradition was more important than your civil rights.

Now, we are left with kind of a sticky situation, on account of McCaskill is allowed to have opinions, even if they are not so good for inclusion, and even if that is what she is in charge of. She’s been put on paid leave until the administration can figure out what the hell to do with her, and how to find their footing on this, the slipperiest of slopes, as detailed in a Baltimore Sun editorial:

Might someone consider it inappropriate if a chief diversity officer registered as a Republican, since that party’s platform opposes gay marriage? What if she had donated money to Mitt Romney? Could the Catholic Church start cracking down on priests who register as Democrats, given that party’s support for gay marriage and abortion rights?

Indeed! And what if a lemonade salesman believed in, say, fruit punch? Or a member of the House Science Committee thinks science is actually “lies”? Should we punish those people? No, probably not, because this is America, where we have the freedom to believe things. Fortunately, that also applies to believing that all those folks are probably awful at their jobs.

One group that agrees McCaskill should keep her job? The Family Research Council, which has, as it does, come out with a petition for her reinstatement. Believe what you want, they say, you shouldn’t be fired for that. That’s freedom! Unless you’re gay, of course, then it’s our FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT to fire you. Just ask your local diversity officer. [WaPo]

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  • memzilla

    Yeah, but Gay Braille is awesome!

    • UnholyMoses

      Yeah, but Gay Braille is awesome fabulous!

      Gayed that up for ya …

      • memzilla

        That is better.

        Speaking as a straight old white guy, my one prejudice about teh gheys is this: Whether Man or Woman, They Throw The Best Parties.

        No, seriously, they do. Even if you're straight. Especially if you're straight. If you meet a non-ghey woman at such a party, well, it's not like you've got a lot of competition. And by definition, both of you must be open-minded and tolerant and reasonably fun to have around (It's the Ghey Filtering®).

        • gullywompr

          Take me to the next one!

          Now, if you call the straight, opposite-sex companion of a gay person a "beard", what do you call two straight guys that go to gay parties to pick up women?

          • elviouslyqueer

            "Power Bottoms."

          • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

            HA!

          • gullywompr

            HA! Hmm, maybe I'm at the wrong party after all…

          • bobbert

            I'm really late today, but that deserves another

            Ha!

        • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

          And if they move into your neighbourhood, you can pretty much guarantee YOUR property value goes up. Have you checked out your local Swish Alps?

          Dykes too. They're more likely to be handywomen and pretty up their houses.

    • elviouslyqueer

      Let your fingers do the walking!

      • gullywompr

        Wait, what's that one word again? That word, right there…

        • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

          My fingers don't walk that way, dood.

          • gullywompr

            You haven't read my manifesto yet, brother. Don't be so hasty.

          • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

            OK. (walks THIS way)

          • bobbert

            If I could walk THAT way….,

            Oh, nevermind.

  • BaldarTFlagass

    Well, at least her sister in Missouri is cool.

    • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212
      • BaldarTFlagass

        Firewalled. I was thinking "Claire."

        • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

          Angela is black.

          • BaldarTFlagass

            Sistah, then.

        • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

          Me too.

  • nounverb911

    "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

  • Toomush_Infer

    This isn't gay – it's cranky….

  • UnholyMoses

    "Being gay is a choice, you see, whereas religion is something you're born with!"
    — Every religious fucknut since forever

    • MacRaith

      Which is why, in their eyes, Obama is a Muslim, even though his father appears to have been an atheist by the time Obama was conceived, and even though Obama's mother was raised Unitarian. Obama can't possibly have become a Christian with a pedigree like that!

    • elviouslyqueer

      You jest, but I heard this exact thing in our Sunday school class last week.* This was, of course, the culmination of a rather spirited exchange that followed my loudly calling bullshit on said class leaders' explanation that "Christians aren't like Muslims. We don't have extremists."

      *Yes, EQ regularly attends church with his hubby in tow. Apologies in advance for blowing minds.

      • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

        And your poor hubby goes along, all cooperative? What are you putting in his booze? Mine has a screaming shit fit when I play Christmas carols. Atheistic bastid.

      • http://www.southsidejohnny.com/ Jukesgrrl

        My mind didn't splode. An utterly charming article in Slate covering the first gay marriage in the military said that couple MET in church. Apparently they were both still trying to pray away the gay even after they were divorced from their lady-spouses. But they clapped eyes on each other and … POW. They gave up their unwinnable war and fell into each others arms. With the support of their rather conservative minister and fellow church members, who could see that they were meant for each other. Their kids all get along great, too. So the blended family spent their "familymoon" at Disney World. Sweet, huh?

        • bobbert

          Awwww. (Except, possibly, for the Disney World part).

          • http://www.southsidejohnny.com/ Jukesgrrl

            I hate DW with a passion, but Disney was one of the first corporations to allow LGBT employees to include their partners in spousal benefits.So I'm OK when kids like it.

    • Yellerdawg

      Being the only Liberal within twenty miles of where ever I'm standing in Texas, I'm a fairly regular target of (mostly good-natured) challenges. One such; I walked across the street to talk to two neighbors, men I had known for long enough to come out of the political closet with, and the first thing one of them said was, "You know being gay is a choice, right?" I went back with, "So if the right guy came along, you'd switch teams? 'Cause I don't think I could do that." Shut him up quick.

      • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

        I'm gonna have to remember that.

      • UnholyMoses

        Also: Ask him (or anyone else) this:

        "A choice? really? Okay … so when did you choose to be straight?"

        That also works.

    • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

      You know these people too, huh?

  • eggsacklywright

    Maybe she was thinking about the Frist amendment?

  • BaldarTFlagass

    "One group that agrees McCaskill should keep her job? The Family Research Council, which has, as it does, come out with a petition for her reinstatement. Believe what you want, they say, you shouldn’t be fired for that. That’s freedom!"

    My guess is that the Family Research Council also circulated one of these petitions for that gay foreign policy advisor that Mitt shitcanned at the behest of Bryan Fischer.

    • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

      Now twist the knife, Baldar….

    • http://Wonkette.com DemmeFatale

      With friends like this…

  • SheriffRoscoe

    Well I'm for diversity. But I still have to draw the line somewhere.

    • http://www.acepilots.com/wwi/can_bishop.html WABishop

      Yeah, we wouldn't want it to get out of hand!

      • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

        Um … (gets it out of hand, stuffs it back in pants) so … what exactly would be this "it" we're talking about here? (looks innocent)

  • Crank_Tango

    Fear of a Deaf, Queer Planet. In keeping with today's PE theme, boyeeeeee!

    • BoatOfVelociraptors

      Turn it up! Bring the Signs!

  • Beowoof

    Well I can understand that because Jeebus mentioned gay people,like never.

    • http://facethesuncastnoshadow.wordpress.com/ Mumbletypeg

      Jeebus mentioned gay people,like never

      He did, however, affirm his affection for gaity, wine and song among, yes, even disabled folks when he made wine at the wedding in Cana said to that one guy with a grin, "Here's mud in your eye!"

    • http://www.acepilots.com/wwi/can_bishop.html WABishop

      He never mentioned cats, either, and thus all the anti-cat petitions plastering the bulletin boards of any evangelical church.

      • sbj1964

        Jesus,Never messed with the ladies,liked to wash other men's feet,walked around saying A-men,had father issues,got bitchy with his mother,claimed to be a fisher of men,and lets not forget about the 12 boyfriends.

      • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

        I don't think it's *that* kind of pussy, dear.

        • http://www.acepilots.com/wwi/can_bishop.html WABishop

          Ohhh…

  • One_who_wanders

    Sheesh. These people.
    The pro-equality groups have rolled out ads featuring pastors of churches saying that the law would protect religious freedom.

  • BadKitty904

    "without giving it further thought." Sermons make me sleepy, too, but, um, isn't that kinda what she's paid to think about?

  • no_gravity

    How do you sign Fuck You in ALS? Nevermind, I think I can figure it out.

    • http://lostintarnation.blogspot.com/ SayItWithWookies

      You can find it signed several times in Children of a Lesser God, though its preposterously pro-lip-reading stance is utterly impracticable and thus annoys me — but I'll bet if you looked on YouTube you could find isolated clips of the phrase.

    • MosesInvests

      I don't know how people with Lou Gehrig's Disease say it, but my 17-year-old Deaf son uses the same sign you'd use.

    • shelwood46

      The way I was taught is: you make V-signs (like peace signs, hippie) with both hands, then bang them together like two people humping. Do that once, like you mean it, that's the "fuck" part. Then just follow that up by pointing at whoever you want to be "you".

      • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

        Just flip 'em the middle finger. Works in any language.

        • shelwood46

          Try it once my way. There's something quite satisfying about smashing your hands together then pointing and glaring at the other person.

          • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

            OK. I can't run, tho. Just letting you know.

  • BaldarTFlagass

    They should have one of these special universities for blind gay people as well as deaf gay people. I mean, ugly gay people need love too.

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Johnny-Appletruth/133951326629923?sk=wall deanbooth

      special universities for blind gay people

      Where discretion is never an issue.

    • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

      I should NOT be laughing at this. Really, I shouldn't.

      Please don't tell anybody.

      • Biff

        The closest thing I have to a girlfriend is blind. Mercifully, she lost her sight relatively late in life, and remembers me from when I was still young, thin, had all my hair and teef, etc…

        • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

          I could use such a girlfriend. Mine sees only too well.

          • Biff

            Bette Rae sees right through me, but she doesn't have to believe her own lying eyes.

          • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

            Oh, hush, she sees the goodness within. (Hugs you again)

            What do you use for muscular spasms, dude? I'm dyin' here and need to rummage through the drogas in a minnit.

          • Biff

            Baclofen. The good stuff. For less bothersome routine muscular stuff, Flexeril. Hope you have some, if not, better get some. Get better!

          • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

            Thank you. I can always call in a prescription.

            Aye, aye CAP'N!

  • Tommmcatt_Again

    It's not a state-sponsored school, right? Then suck it, right-tards, they can fire her for anything they want, as long as it isn't because she's a member of a protected class.

    She'll probably sue because bigotry is a tenet of her religious beliefs, but still.

    • Boojum

      Federally chartered. Dunno WTF that means.

    • MosesInvests

      Gallaudet is indeed a private university.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Judging from all their recent whining, it sounds like the fundies have been shooting for "protected class" status.

      • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

        "Shooting," Biely? Now I'm worried.

    • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

      Hey, it's my Tommmcatt back again! (Hugs you)

      Have I mentioned it's great to see you, baby? How you doing?

      ETA: Oh, yeah, what I was GOING to say is, she's black and female. Protected classes.

      • Tommmcatt_Again

        Nice to see you too, mon brave! I finally figured out what my password was.

        She'd have to prove that the firing was related to her race or gender. Not sure that applies here.

        • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

          Yes, but once the EEOC gets involved, yows. OTOH, I sincerely hope she does get fired. What a terrible example she's setting!

  • EatsBabyDingos

    "Separate butt equal," says Scalia in a year.

  • BaldarTFlagass

    I wonder what her position on the Americans With Disabilities Act was.

    • James Michael Curley

      At the bottom of the stairs?

    • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

      Prone.

  • MosesInvests

    From what I can tell from my son, who is a student at Model Secondary School for the Deaf, on the Gallaudet campus, a lot of students at Gally are plenty pissed off about this, straight as well as ghey.
    EDIT: Gally alumni also, too.

    • BadKitty904

      As any freedom-loving American *should* be. Points for them.
      Sorry, this is not a topic I can snark on easily – it just makes me so sad. :(

    • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

      Kudos to your son for being a cool and well-raised kid. And to the Gallaudet students and alumni/alumnae who are protesting this.

    • Cicada

      I like going to bars and restaurants on the H St corridor, which is where a lot of Gallaudet students go on the weekends. My experience in chatting (via smartphone notepad app) with Gallaudet students has been that they're like young people everywhere: more tolerant and open on social issues than the older generation.

      Related side note: I have learned how to sign "shot" and "beer" in ASL.

  • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

    What did you say?????

    • Devilette

      I feel terrible for LOL. Shame on you! ;)

    • bobbert

      I thought you said that.

  • Toomush_Infer

    When religious groups start circulating petitions regarding specific laws and advocating specific voting positions or providing funding to influence elections or statutes, shouldn't they have to relinquish their 501c3 status and become 501c4's – the political non-profit type of IRS designation that has to pay taxes? Just askin'….

    • Tommmcatt_Again

      NEVER! Because FREEDOM SUNDAY !

      • Toomush_Infer

        Wow!…Speaking Power to Truth, I guess….

      • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

        Fuck these tax-dodging godbag parasites!

    • UnholyMoses

      In reality, yes. The IRS should crack down on that.

      In this reality? No. Churches can do whatever they want because if the IRS were to crack down on that, the rightwing would lose. it's. shit. After all, they think Obama is a socialfascistastic Muslim as it is, no matter evidence to the contrary.

      Now think what'd happen if the IRS started revoking tax-exempt status as the law demands.

      Yeah. It'd be ugly.

      • Yellerdawg

        I grew up Baptist in a moderate church. My childhood church pastor lamented the rise of fundamentalism openly. I remember the last time I ever set foot in a Baptist sanctuary, Second Baptist in Houston, in the weeks leading up to Bush 1 vs. Clinton. Pastor Ed Young gave the ENTIRE sermon over the election, the piety of the Republican party, the evils of Democrats and concluded with, "I don't see how anyone can call themselves a Democrat and still call themselves Christian." I remember thinking "I think I have just been dismissed." Walked out and never walked back in.

        • http://www.southsidejohnny.com/ Jukesgrrl

          That was how the Catholics lost me, too, back in the day.

  • x111e7thst

    Let us remember that the real victim here is the pastor of her church.

  • http://www.acepilots.com/wwi/can_bishop.html WABishop

    I think you're missing the point: she didn't want to sign the petition, but her husband told her to. Obvs, she had no choice in the matter.

    • PsycWench

      I was entertained by that addition to the story, like of course all of us Vagina-Americans do what our husbands order us to do, even if they only order with body language.

      • Toomush_Infer

        It could have been divorce papers….

  • Lascauxcaveman

    I had a similar problem when the university I worked for named me Vice Provost to Reduce Vice. They figured I was an expert on the subject, and …. well, they were right.

  • http://wonkette.com ChillBill

    I heard Liberty University is hiring.

  • Goonemeritus

    I know how she feels I almost joined the Moonies by accident in the 70’s because I was rushing to catch a train.

    • kittensdontlie

      The magazine subscription I bought the other day from two well-dressed young men at my door, turned out to be my Mormon baptismal papers.

    • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

      No, don't explain … it would ruin this beautiful mental image.

  • http://lostintarnation.blogspot.com/ SayItWithWookies

    It's a deaf trap!

    Srsly, her employer should judge her job performance based on her job performance. On the other hand, Galluadet has a reputation for pissing off its students — remember when students shut the place down because they had yet another in a long string of hearing presidents? It's really the rearguard in the fight to condescend to and mistreat those who aren't white, male and fully-abled.

    • http://lostintarnation.blogspot.com/ SayItWithWookies

      Those protests, btw, go back to the 1988 Deaf President Now movement, which sorta succeeded.

    • Toomush_Infer

      Funny, I first read it as "earguard"…

    • PugglesRule

      It's a suicide rap, you gotta get out while you're young…

      Oh… wrong song. Never mind.

      Waiting for Gallaudet students to go plodey.

      • http://Wonkette.com DemmeFatale

        Is it wrong that this was also MY first thought?
        Nah, Bruce is never wrong!

        (Sorry, Wooks. Too much Springsteen.)

        • PugglesRule

          No such thing as too much Spring(steen)!

    • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

      How does this small group (straight rich old white fully-able men) get so many of us so fucked up trying to deal with their fuckery?

      The Director of Diversity is not supposed to be signing stuff that impairs diversity.

  • sbj1964

    The Family Research Council otherwise known as the Mullahs of Teabekastan.

  • http://www.notfrisco.com/colmatales/norton/proclaim.html#declaration Joshua Norton

    How's about they reinstate her as the official school Five-Star, Fur-Lined, Ocean-Going Twatwaffle.

    She seems more that qualified for that position.

    • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

      I wouldn't give her that many stars, but yes.

  • TheGyrus

    Might someone consider it inappropriate if a chief diversity officer registered as a Republican

    I'm going with "yes."

    • PugglesRule

      At least a sign of cognitive dissonance.

      I can relate. My transgender, gay teenager is a Republican. Seriously? Much easier for me to wrap my brain around the gay and trans stuff than why he could support a party whose platform is totally against him.

      • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

        Oh, my dear. My poor, poor Puggles. I can live with gay, I can live with trans, I can even live with teenager, but a REPUBLICAN??? (Pats Puggles' back sympathetically)

      • emmelemm

        "Wait, what?"

        Seriously, WTH?

      • bobbert

        Young teenager? Both of my (boringly straight male) boychikls went through "I'm a Republican" at about age thirteen (nine or eleven years ago). I never figured out why. I didn't do anything other than remark that they were fucking idiots, but over the subsequent years they seem to have recovered.

  • BigSkullF*ckingDog

    " As she was leaving, her husband pointed to the petition and she signed it without giving it further thought."

    Good little Christian, republican woman was just "submitting" to her husband like she's supposed to. I bet he snapped his fingers when he pointed.

    PS – I am feeling hatey today.

    • BadKitty904

      I would feel hatey if this oh-so-tiresome bullshit didn't just make me sad. Sure, I know others have it *lots* worse, but being a second-class citizen here in the Land o' the Free and Home o' the Brave, based solely on who I am, gets pretty depressing…

      • BadKitty904

        Sorry, guys. As I said, I don't snark well on this topic. I'll try to suck it up and get with the program…

        • Boojum

          It's OK to be sad at this shit. It's OK to suck, too. :-)

          • BadKitty904

            OK, that made me lol. Thank you. :0)

          • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

            Just when I get all sniffly thinking, thanks, Booj — he comes up with teh rude.

            Whatever, dude. It hurts when I laugh.

      • BigSkullF*ckingDog

        Tell me about it. Although I would be a lot more hatey if I actually had someone who wanted to marry me.

      • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

        No comparing pain. Everybody's pain is the worst pain to them. C'mere, lemme give you a hug. It ain't much, but it might cheer you up. We're in this fight to win it, it ain't over by a long shot, and the fat lady looks like she ain't gonna sing before stomping some ass. So let's get out there and stomp some ass.

        • BadKitty904

          Thank you. :0) That's very kind of you and I appreciate it.

          • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

            Srsly. We're all in the same boat.

    • eggsacklywright

      (approaching gingerly) Awww, niiice doggie, here, have some nice opium.

      • Kid_Charlemagne

        Don't know for sure, but I suspect she is a baptist. The African-American Baptist church has been exceptionally loud in MD against gay marriage.

    • Boojum

      This statement kind of destroys any First Amendment argument. She wasn't expressing an opinion or a belief. She was just doing what she was told.

    • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

      Stabby, too? Or is it safe to approach? (Hugs BSFD gingerly)

      • BigSkullF*ckingDog

        Hugs are good. Belly rubs too.

        • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

          Roll over. (Rubs the big furry doggy belly)

          OK, now ear scritches.

  • Oblios_Cap

    Could the Catholic Church start cracking down on priests who register as Democrats, given that party’s support for gay marriage and abortion rights?

    Actually, I think excommunication has been mentioned as a penalty for just that sorta thing.

  • http://twitter.com/iburl iburl

    You have to admit that a diversity-hating diversity officer is pretty divergent.

    • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

      Though, sadly, insufficiently diverse. (Now if she was a disabled Buddhist LESBIAN …)

  • MacRaith

    For once, a snark-free post from me: If any of my fellow white straight hearing men would like to have a tiny taste of what it feels like to be a minority, a visit to the Gaulladet campus will give you that. It was a real eye-opener for me. I don't sign. Everyone else who was there did. Suddenly I was the deaf person.

    The difference, of course, being that I could walk away from that experience and go back to a world where people like me have every advantage.

    • schvitzatura

      I'd much rather go to Montreal and deal with the lack of lingua franca…Tourtière and tire sur la neige, YUM!, in any language…

      Just as long as I could make it back to Amercia, right?

      • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

        Like you're ever coming back once we let you across the border,

    • MosesInvests

      Yeah, whenever I go to my son's school, *I* feel like the disabled person (I sign, but not well. It's really frustrating, especially since I'm usually good with languages. Something about a language that I can't hear. Argh.)

  • Mittens Howell, III

    This can be fixed simply, with a glitter bomb.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Johnny-Appletruth/133951326629923?sk=wall deanbooth

    SNL, 1981:

    [ flashback to Bizarro President appointing his Cabinet ]
    Bizarro President: For Secretary of Interior, man who likes strip-mining and air pollution. For Secretary of Education, man who want to destroy department. For Secretary of State, scary man with morals of a styrofoam cup..
    [ blend back to the present-day ]
    Black House Aide #2: Him am incredible! Bizarro Americans all love him!

  • glasspusher

    I'm still recovering from my mom's visit last month. She's a Catholic, and we went toe to toe several times on teh gheys. I still am amazed at how much time self described straight straight straight people spend thinking about ghey sechs. I'm doing my best to educate my son as to nothing's wrong between consenting adults. I'm fortunate to have a great friend and ex roomie who's ghey that I can trot out as a shining example.

    • http://lostintarnation.blogspot.com/ SayItWithWookies

      A neighbor of mine used that argument once — like, I wouldn't want them to get married because I don't want to imagine them having sex. I was dumbfounded — if that was the criterion, I wouldn't be letting most straight people get married either.

      • glasspusher

        Really. I vividly, vividly remember finding a book “Where do babies come from?” in the library with my next door neighbor when we were in like 4th grade. We were shocked. I remember telling her that these people were clearly in love, because frankly I couldn't imagine doing anything more embarrassing. A couple of years later the hormones kicked in, and my perspective on the act changed dramatically! I think it's the same thing for folks who are repulsed by something that they aren't into. A little perspective, please, people.

      • Biff

        As much as I would like to be having sex, I certainly don't want THAT image running around in my head. Oh, the huge manatee…

    • Boojum

      Teh gheyz and their sexy times are brain worms for the closely closeted homophobes. Like ear worms, for fantasizing.

      • glasspusher

        I agree!You can't use logic to argue with someone who has ideas not formed with logic.

    • http://Wonkette.com DemmeFatale

      I think it's generational, too.
      I had a long talk with someone who is one of the world's foremost AIDs doctors, (leads huge international NGOs).
      He told me that his mother can't get her head around the gay marriage idea at all, and that friends her age can't come to terms with it.

      • glasspusher

        I am happy to report that one of my mom's best friends was on our side of the fence, and I have a few friends my mom's age who are as well. Teh ghey has come from being a mental illness half a century ago to almost achieving parity with straights, so I can understand the greater intolerance of the older folks. Not condone, but understand. We're close, I can feel it.

        • http://www.southsidejohnny.com/ Jukesgrrl

          My mom's 86 and she's OK with it. She says it's for the same reason she's pro-choice, even though as a Catholic she thinks abortion is wrong: the U.S. isn't a theocracy. She doesn't believe she has any right to inflict her faith-based opinions on others.

          • bobbert

            Good on your mom.

          • glasspusher

            Your mom sounds like she has her head screwed on very well. I have great respect for people who don't inflict their religion on others.

  • prommie

    I'm just here because I am afraid to open the debate liveblog post. It put my laptop into cardiac arrest last time.

    • FakaktaSouth

      Then don't do it then cause we want no heart attacks, no bad stuff, no nothing but sweetness and light. I love this day!

      • prommie

        Me too! Look at you wonketting from the airport! Technology!

        • MosesInvests

          You two get a room! Or is that the point?

          • Boojum

            With camera and a live feed. Please?

          • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

            I'm tellin' ya. And they're so cute together, too.

          • prommie

            Flattery is nice. But still, no show.

          • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

            How 'bout battery? Would that work better?

            With VOTES!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/mrblifil mrblifil

      It's a remarkable historical document on many levels, all of them profane.

    • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

      I had the same problem. My browser took one look at it and committed seppukku.

      • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

        So nice to hear someone using the polite term.

    • http://www.southsidejohnny.com/ Jukesgrrl

      Actually, the messed up problems we had the last time we had a 10-page-plus discussion didn't happen this time. Typing was a tad slowly for awhile. But my thoughts were all posted immediately and the pages up-dated with no problem. According to our Editrix, she worked with IntenseDebate to clear up some issues.

  • Mittens Howell, III

    Hello. Diversity! We should have all kinds of diversity officers: respectful ones, racist ones, homophobes. And don't lock out the nose pickers, climate deniers, foot fetishists, dinosaur riders, Koran burners, and compulsive liars either (threw that last one in for Romney/Ryan, they might need a fallback career option soon.)

    • bobbert

      Diversity of diversity officers! How has this idea escaped popular attention?

  • Serolf_Divad

    Reminds me of the time I accidentally donated my house to the L. Ron Hubbard foundation because a guy with title transfer papers was collecting signatures outside my church. I was like: "Sign where? Here? Sure, whatevs."

    • Mittens Howell, III

      I hate that. I lost three houses that way.

      Fucking Scientologists.

    • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

      Did they give it back?

      • DahBoner

        NO DO OVERZ

        • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

          Dammit! I was hoping they'd give *mine* back too.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/mrblifil mrblifil

    Oh her husband pointed it out to her and she signed it "without thinking." Maybe she's just trying to save teh gheyz from having spouses who tell them what to do. I mean c'mon in gay couples the mansplaining gets doubled, ugh.

    Got a job title that suggests you work toward the advancement of progressive causes? A Christian fundamentalist would very much like to have that job, thank you very much.

  • Mittens Howell, III

    At first I was like What The Fuck is that picture? but then I was like, It's Awesome is what The Fuck it is!

  • BigSkullF*ckingDog

    When WA becomes the first state to have voter approved gay marriage I am going to gay marry myself and you are all invited to my kick ass reception.

    PS – my first choice would be to gay marry someone else, but BigDog is mostly hopelessly awkward and shy when it comes to the ladiez.

    • BadKitty904

      Well, you certainly come across on here as articulate, witty, and a thoroughly good egg. So, there's that.

      • BigSkullF*ckingDog

        Thanks! But that's only because I can't stutter and avoid eye contact over the internets.

        • Boojum

          I can. :::blush:::

        • emmelemm

          I don't recall you stuttering and avoiding eye contact at the drinky thingy. You seemed very charming. :)

          If I were gay, I'd gay marry you.

          • BigSkullF*ckingDog

            Thanks Em, that's nice. I know you can't tell, but I'm totally avoiding eye contact right now.

            But you let me know if you ever decide to switch teams, cause its a choice, you know.

          • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

            It IS? Well, then! I CHOOSE to be different!

            Fuck. That didn't work. Now what?

          • BigSkullF*ckingDog

            Hush, you. I'm lying to emmelemm right now and your gonna ruin it.

          • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

            SOR-ry. Geez. How come I always manage to skunk up the garden party?

  • gullywompr

    Wait… somebody blindly submitted to church doctrine without giving it any thought, even when it clearly contradicts their behavior in public life?

    Inconceivable!

    • BadKitty904

      I do not think that word means what you think it means.

  • finallyhappy

    In a previous fight against homophobia here in Maryland- I pointed out that civil rights should never be voted on. So as a deaf black woman- I guess she is not thinking that her rights might still be pretty limited if there had been votes on the Civil Rights Act or the ADA- or that her rights are more important plus her church hates the gheys- so OK then

  • PubOption

    I can't believe that no-one else has said this yet, but
    Is she deaf to reason?

    • Biff

      And blind to justice.

      • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

        Joe Cool, eh? (Hugs the reprobate)

        • Biff

          In honor of our way cool VP's smackdown last night, obvs.

          • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

            Obvs. The shades suit you, dude.

          • Biff

            I go NOwhere without my Ray-Ban Clubmasters!

  • CommieLibunatic

    Just another day in Opposite Land.

  • ttommyunger

    Fucking Churchies are the fucking worst.

  • barto

    I think the university hired her on purpose just to prove how inclusive they are – bigots are as welcome as anyone else!

  • widestanceromance

    Taxpayer dollars going to Gallaudet to support the Deaf Lifestyle/Agenda is the real outrage here!1!

  • LibrarianX

    What happens in church stays in church. That's what they tell the altar boys.

  • calliecallie

    "Could the Catholic Church start cracking down on priests who register as Democrats, given that party’s support for gay marriage and abortion rights?"

    If they're not going to crack down on them for being child molesters, then probably not.

  • DahBoner

    Whoa

  • DahBoner

    Diversity?

    The longer and longer I vork here, da verse it gets to me!

    //rimshot

    • http://www.kalimao.blogspot.com MittBorg

      I thought it was worth teh upfist.