MEETING CUTE  6:56 pm October 10, 2012

And Now Is When We Watch Scott Brown And Elizabeth Warren Finally Fall In Love

by Rebecca Schoenkopf

full custerWant to catch up on Senator Staple-Crotch dealing a death-blow to his “nice guy” image? Previous debatings here and here. (That second link is if you want to relive Third Man David Gregory finally succeeding in breaking your Wonkette, reducing us to a puddle of Tea Partyish rage. Your Editrix’s mother thought it was great!) Now turn on your Span, let us blog like a wild thang!

7:02 PM — Moderator: “Elizabeth Warren, I am a giant Communist or I would not be asking a question about Poors and Browns.” Have no idea what Warren is answering as she is super fucking PILFy tonight. Seriously, ROWR!

7:05 PM — Scott Brown is dropping names of random stores and restaurants in “real world” Western Mass, but we are not listening because DUH, SCOTT BROWN. But what is up with this black background, like they are performing Cabaret or Brecht? Oh, here is Brown, ME ME ME, blah, took a page from the Romney school of I WILL TALK NOW!!!

7:07 PM — Have you ever heard the weird dirgey original of Brecht’s “Whiskey Bar”? We expect Marianne Faithfull to show up any second and start singing “Surabaya Johnny.”

(Sorry, Ute Lemper doesn’t embed, and Marianne Faithfull can’t be seen on Youtube or in daylight, but Bette’s isn’t bad!)

7:11 PM — Oh, we were too busy looking up youtubes of Brecht and Weill and shit to be WATCHING WHAT HAPPENS LIVE as some lady boos Elizabeth Warren for saying we should have Obamacare … like they have in Massachusetts.

7:14 PM — Now that we think about it, “Whiskey Bar” was probably Kurt Weill, not Bertolt Brecht. We apologize for the (probable) error.

7:18 PM — We are already behind, due to Brecht-tubing, and now Scott Brown is just lying Romney-styley. Soon we will be even more behind as we go downstairs to dish up some goddamn peppers and onions, since none of you came over to grill us a cheese. BUT SERIOUSLY, who is this one crazy female person who shouts BOOOOO everytime Warren is talking? She sounds deranged, and we would like to see the Span cameras swivel around to see her ejected.

7:22 PM — Oh right, we forgot: Brown tried a Reagan “There you again,” but sadly could not stick the landing. He’s a st-st-st-stuttering fool. Maybe he is not used to the altitude?

7:24 PM — Who’s this Time Nazi, anyway? And why is Scott Brown listening to him? You think Romney would stop talking in the middle of a sentence because a clockwatcher interrupted him with “It’s time”? WHY IS SCOTT BROWN SUCH A PUSSY, HENGGHHHH?

7:25 PM — And Warren gets a quiet boo for winding down the military budget, and the same crazy lady GIANT BOO for not cutting Social Security benefits? Who boos not cutting Social Security? Well, that girl, for one, but now she’s got a male friend!

7:31 PM — Never get involved in a landwar in Asia, and also apparently don’t get into a debate with Elizabeth Warren unless you’ve got David Gregory gently cupping your scrot. Girl points out that study cited by Brown was conducted by group that called Ted Kennedy “Public Enemy No. 1.” They might as well have gone on Saturday Night Live and torn up a pic of the Pope.

7:35 PM — It’s a fairly straightforward difference, investing in education and infrastructure, or making sure no one ever pays a cent in taxes unless they go to Halliburton and KBR. Brown is going after personal attacks against Warren and whether or not she’s actually been a secret Plutocrat Lackey this whole time. She never responds; it’s beneath her, and she’s laid it all out already. Rather than looking evasive, though, she just looks like not taking the bait. The boos are landing on both sides now.

7:36 PM — HO SNAP, Brown tries to take credit for Dodd-Frank, and Warren’s all, hi, Boston Globe story that says you secretly worked to weaken it first. SERIOUSLY MODERATOR STOP WITH THE CLOCKINESS. “Senator, I owe you five seconds” IS A RIDICULOUS THING TO SAY.

7:41 PM — Scott Brown hasn’t mentioned his truck yet, has he, or marrying a Waltham girl? How are we supposed to get drunk?

7:43 PM — B. Barry Bamz needs to put Warren on his payroll as his debate coach. Girl is on fire — and yet “polite”! No charge goes unanswered (well except those ones we said before) and she lobs plenty of her own, none of which is pathetic and/or irrelevant.

7:44 PM — Scott Brown believes very much that women should get the same pay for the same work, unless it is through a law that says women must get the same pay for the same work. That said, the rest of his laundry list seems okay, woman-wise.

7:46 PM — Oh right, except for birth control, and health care, and Elena Kagan. See? Good debating, “Professor”!

7:48 PM — Scott Brown will not pit Catholics against their Church and their faith. Obviously! Tie goes to the Church and the faith instead of to the Catholics (all of whom love birth control like it is a bottle of rye)!

7:49 PM — Scott Brown is sticking with Elena Kagan — former Solicitor General of the United States — had no courtroom experience. Got it.

7:54 PM — Sorry, we sort of dozed off during this foreign policy/the US Military is the greatest in the history of the world part. That’s on us.

7:57 PM — Did they finally eject that booing lady? We haven’t heard her in at least 4 minutes? SADFACE.

7:59 PM — Scott Brown just called himself “challenged.” Oh, Scott.

8:00 PM — Elizabeth Warren going on about her grandchildren just makes us think of what a Sexy Grandma should be: that’s right, not this classy lady with her cool purple (?) suit and her pretty eyes and hair, but the incomparable governor grifter Sarah Palin. Now that’s a spicy meatball!

8:05 PM — Well, nobody fell in love tonight, unless it was you with the sexy librarian! Better luck next time, Scott Brown.

 

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Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:00 pm

Christ, if he brings up the Native American non-issue yet again I will start hurling projectiles at the TV…

ChillBill October 10, 2012 at 7:06 pm

Or the fucking 250K miles on his truck…

Radiotherapy October 10, 2012 at 7:32 pm

It'll look like Custer, like a porcupine, with shit in his pants.

Lionel[redacted]Esq October 10, 2012 at 10:21 pm

Tomahawks?

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:01 pm

Third of four? Christ, there will be another one?

You Mass voters sure have some stamina…

snowpointsecret October 10, 2012 at 7:03 pm

Well, to be fair, it's not like the presidential race is close there, so they need something to do. They don't get endless doses of Romney and Obama rallies like we do in Dayton. Or Ohio in general.

Veritas78 October 10, 2012 at 7:22 pm

It's also not like we have real sports teams to distract us.

Lascauxcaveman October 10, 2012 at 10:11 pm

Oh, c'mon. The Pats might get their shit togeth…

Eh, you're right.

DerrickWildcat October 10, 2012 at 11:23 pm

Woodhead! Woodhead! Woodhead!

ednamillion22 October 10, 2012 at 7:30 pm

No more debate-viewing for me — I'm a Bostonian but at this point in this exhausting race, I prefer a Wonkette filter on my debatez.

starfanglednut October 10, 2012 at 9:26 pm

I agree. I simply cannot watch that smarmy little prick one more time.

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:02 pm

One man enters, one woman leaves…

MistaEko October 10, 2012 at 7:03 pm

"All of our questions are taken from the public, and I'm very pleased about that."

Question one, Penis penis penis … I hate this country.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:03 pm

Jobs bills! Fucker voted against three of them, did he?

Go Elizabeth!

weejee October 10, 2012 at 7:05 pm

Brownie looking at a future selling parquet floors with that Bob Cousey endorsement call-out??

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:05 pm

This is about jobs and the economy–the whole race is about that

I'll settle for the fucking *debate* being about that, and not Brown's personal attacks…

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:05 pm

That is one articulate gurrrrl…

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 7:06 pm

Scott Brown name-checks everything worth seeing in the greater Springfield area.

(Fact Check: there are no things worth seeing in the greater Springfield area)

snowpointsecret October 10, 2012 at 7:11 pm

There's the basketball hall of fame and….

Yep, I've got nothing.

Dudleydidwrong October 10, 2012 at 10:24 pm

You forgot the damage done by last year's strange tornado. Or, as they refer to it in West Springfield, urban renewal.

Negropolis October 10, 2012 at 11:30 pm

Basketball Hall of Fame libel!

That's in Springfield, right?

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:06 pm

Yes, Scottie, businesses are hurting…thanks to lack of demand, not regulation and taxes. And how can we stimulate demand? Oh yeah, by putting people back to work, instead of standing with the millionaires…

Asshole.

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:08 pm

He certainly has a remarkable grasp of the obvious…

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:08 pm

Um. this health care question could have been better written–this moderator sounds like he is rambling…

Oh, and those health care costs? Get rid of the insurance companies' overhead with single payer and watch them finally start to decline…

Isyaignert October 11, 2012 at 2:24 am

People don't seem to understand the basic concept of: government provides services on a non-profit basis; ergo, if you privitize (profitize) a service, it's going to COST YOU MORE because you have to build in a profit, right?? Why is this hard?

sullivanst October 11, 2012 at 8:18 am

Magical efficiency, because magic. Don't forget, these guys don't believe in science or math.

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 7:08 pm

That was a very detailed and very technical question about health care billing, Medic* fraud, transactional costs of modernization, and so forth.

Watch now as Scott Brown fails to actually directly answer it!

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:09 pm

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE that lie about "Medicare was cut for Obamacare" yet again.

Come on Elizabeth–remind us all that Paul Ryan's plan has the same reduction in spending…

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 10, 2012 at 7:28 pm

We can tell you're upset because you wrote out For Fuck's Sake.

viennawoods13 October 10, 2012 at 7:42 pm

And in caps!!

Serfville October 10, 2012 at 7:10 pm

LIz is way down in the polls since last week. Really sad. I'm really pulling for her.

Negropolis October 10, 2012 at 11:31 pm

She's never been "way down in the polls" unless you consider low-to-mid single digits "way down" and has actually been ahead of most of the reputable ones.

I don't think this is uncompetitive, but Elizabeth is in pretty good shape.

MistaEko October 10, 2012 at 7:10 pm

It sounds to me like Scott is tripping over his talking points?

weejee October 10, 2012 at 7:11 pm

His Freudian slip is slowing.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:10 pm

YES! Elizabeth is punching back on Medicare!

I hope Obama is watching and learning…

fuflans October 10, 2012 at 7:27 pm

and obiden

weejee October 10, 2012 at 7:10 pm

Yeah Liz. Hit Brownie over the head with some Mittens.

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:10 pm

Is it just me or is the Prof ripping this mannequin a new one?

Callyson October 11, 2012 at 1:48 am

Not just you–I had the same observation. Elizabeth kicked ass tonight.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:11 pm

Oh yeah, nice point about how that medical research is being done there in Mass. Top that one, Scottie…

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:12 pm

a number that simply is not true

JFC, I love this woman!

Serfville October 10, 2012 at 7:12 pm

Condescending to "You Seniors, listen the F up with yer hearing aide belltone thingys". Is there no one this Neanderthal doesn't insult? Mittens BFF

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:12 pm

"Scott, you ignorant slut…"

Mittens Howell, III October 10, 2012 at 7:12 pm

You watching, Obama?

snowpointsecret October 10, 2012 at 7:12 pm

I'm not sure an Obamacare argument is going to work in Massachusetts of all places…

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:12 pm

Oh yeah, there are tax *cuts* in Obamacare…I'd forgotten about that. Elizabeth is going strong so far…

sullivanst October 10, 2012 at 7:32 pm

Huge tax cuts, because the subsidies, both for individuals and small businesses, are structured as tax credits (advancable and refundable for individuals).

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:14 pm

If Scottie uses this college costs question as an excuse to call her "Professor" yet again, I hope she looks at him and gives him a big smile with eyes that could kill…

weejee October 10, 2012 at 7:14 pm

Community college grad to Harvard Prof. Pretty amazing.

Serfville October 10, 2012 at 7:14 pm

"The Newt Gingrich Hole"

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:16 pm

Wasn't that in the photo of that nutcase from Iowa a couple of stories back?

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:14 pm

Oh yeah, that business about the student interest rates rising to protect millionaires. God, she is on fire…

Mittens Howell, III October 10, 2012 at 7:15 pm

Dick Alert! Dick Alert!!

mille derps October 10, 2012 at 9:17 pm

Where's my Swingline?

Serfville October 10, 2012 at 7:15 pm

Catering to the rednecks in Mass….again!

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:15 pm

"I just had my younger daughter graduate and I know what those costs are"

My girls are available by the hour or the night…

And sure enough with bashing Elizabeth for being an academic. Asshole.

weejee October 10, 2012 at 7:16 pm

Brownie played the Ronnie 'there you go again' card. How fucking lame.

Mittens Howell, III October 10, 2012 at 7:16 pm

I love how Scott Brown lists Elizabeth Warren's accomplishments as if they're insults.

Serfville October 10, 2012 at 7:18 pm

It's that anti intellectual BS, hence the truck references every 5 seconds. That's why porn boy refers to Liz as Professor ad nauseum. What do you think of the Professor Thurston?

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:16 pm

Wow. He *IS* a dick.

kittensdontlie October 10, 2012 at 7:29 pm

This a guy who gives dicks a bad name.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:16 pm

So much for that quiet audience…love how Elizabeth's cheers greatly drown out the occasional desperate boos…

Mittens Howell, III October 10, 2012 at 7:17 pm

Scott Brown's leadership is a staple of Washington politics.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:17 pm

"We did it together"

Asshole, your party only did so when it became clear that the GOP's opposition to keeping student interest rates from rising was a political loser…

Mittens Howell, III October 10, 2012 at 7:18 pm

Every time he mentions Springfield Homer Simpson shotguns a Duff.

SnarkOff October 10, 2012 at 8:12 pm

D'oh!

glasspusher October 10, 2012 at 9:30 pm

Mmmm…Duff beer…

Lascauxcaveman October 10, 2012 at 10:20 pm

Homer's wisdom is not often recognized.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:18 pm

Scottie is going back to the student interest rate business. Clearly he knows he blew that question…

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:19 pm

Now he's pouting 'cause she's being mean to him?

mille derps October 10, 2012 at 9:14 pm

The Cosmo photographer told him he's pretty when he pouts.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:19 pm

"So, I think you were asking about what we're going to do for the younger kids"

That's a polite way for Warren to say "Unlike my opponent, I will answer the question that was asked, not the one I wish you had asked."

deanbooth October 10, 2012 at 7:28 pm

Obama should say this every time he follows Mittens.

MistaEko October 10, 2012 at 7:20 pm

Stuttering, looking down, mingling phrases, lame Reagan attempts…

Scott Brown told WGBH that he was prepared for this debate, and as you can clearly see, he's not.

Schmannnity October 10, 2012 at 7:20 pm

Scott Brown is Ram tough.

Mittens Howell, III October 10, 2012 at 7:20 pm

Damn you, Professor! You and your '''''''facts!'''''''

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:21 pm

Scottie is going on about how he has been trying to find ways to do it all. Notice that he gave zero examples of what exactly he is doing to accomplish this goal…

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:24 pm

"I grew up here" seems to be his core argument…

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 9:03 pm

Elect me I'm one of YOOOOO.

Ain't working. The nice professor lady is talking adult stuff, and Scotty's lost, and it shows.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:22 pm

Cut aggie subsidies–YES!

But, those of you who can afford to do so–please donate! Because Big Ag will gun for her now…

Veritas78 October 10, 2012 at 7:22 pm

She's really steady. I'm getting a good feeling here (which I wasn't a month ago).

Serfville October 10, 2012 at 7:23 pm

Pinky Dinky & The Brain

weejee October 10, 2012 at 7:23 pm

This evening Nate Silver has Warren's chances of winning at 70%. Yee haaa!!!

ednamillion22 October 10, 2012 at 7:32 pm

Bless Nate Silver's nerdy little heart.

Radiotherapy October 10, 2012 at 7:37 pm

The Power of Nebbish!

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:24 pm

"I was 67% more effective at cutting the deficit"

Nice…

Here's hoping you are at least 50.1% effective in getting votes, sister!

JustPixelz October 10, 2012 at 7:24 pm

Agriculture subsidies! Those are food stamps for agricorps, right?

Veritas78 October 10, 2012 at 7:24 pm

Only a Republican asshole would attack a Democrat for earning an average Republican wage when she's at the absolute top of her profession.

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:25 pm

Well said!

sudsmckenzie October 10, 2012 at 7:25 pm

Boo woman is fired up!, like Denise at Fenway Park Booing Jeetah.

Jukesgrrl October 11, 2012 at 12:16 am

NOMAR!!!!

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:25 pm

Oh FFS, Scottie–cutting the military =/= cutting veterans' benefits, it means cutting wasteful weapons programs that the military does not even want, and not getting into unnecessary wars…

Asshole.

sullivanst October 10, 2012 at 7:35 pm

Aren't most VA benefits exempt from sequestration?

starfanglednut October 10, 2012 at 9:30 pm

And maybe creating fewer traumatized veterans, also too.

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 9:42 pm

Gee, you'd think that would have dawned on ONE WHO WEARS THE FUCKING UNIFORM.

Sorry. I get shouty.

starfanglednut October 10, 2012 at 9:51 pm

There, there, Z. There, there.*hugs teh adorable ZHow goes it?

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 10:00 pm

Hello, sweetpea.

Frankly, it goes like shit. I was almost well enough to be walking around yesterday, which I did, and threw my back out again. OTOH, I've read 30 books in the past couple of weeks, so time's not wasted. Now to find some fillums to watch.

How goes it with you, sugar dumpling?

sullivanst October 11, 2012 at 12:06 am

There there

How goes it

Hopefully a shitload better than it went for Snowden. Don't fucking do that to me again!

Callyson October 11, 2012 at 1:58 am

This election, we are all shouty.

MittBorg October 11, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Srsly.

Schmannnity October 10, 2012 at 7:25 pm

I can't believe this assclown is sitting in Ted Kennedy's seat. Americas truly is in decline.

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 7:25 pm

a) A line-item veto is unconstitutional.

b)Way to go, Warren, for torpedoing the whole "cutting" Obamacare "costs".

c)Double way to go for Ted! Kennedy!

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:25 pm

YES! Elizabeth is going after the National Federation of Republican Businesses!

And they call Ted Kennedy Public Enemy Number One? Bitches, please…

HouseOfTheBlueLights October 10, 2012 at 7:26 pm

Can we get Liz to be Barry's debate coach?

Mittens Howell, III October 10, 2012 at 7:26 pm

Who is this moderator, a fucking atomic clock??

Serfville October 10, 2012 at 7:34 pm

The atomic clock looks like Dick Cheneys twin brother. Those Cheneys!

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:26 pm

Oh, no, she didint!!! She invoked the Big K!

JustPixelz October 10, 2012 at 7:26 pm

Brown wants a balanced budget amendment. Congress could pass a balanced budget tomorrow by simple majority vote; not the 2/3'rds plus 75% of the states needed to amend the Constitution.

sullivanst October 10, 2012 at 7:38 pm

Could, of course, then repeal it also by simple majority.

Which would be a vastly better idea than passing it in the first place, because the concept is entirely mindless jingoism and would be incredibly destructive in practice. Wasn't Scotty just whining about military cuts (and lying about them)? Does he seriously believe there's any conceivable way in which the military would go un-cut in the desperate slashing at everything that would be necessitated by a balanced budget amendment? Because there isn't.

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 7:27 pm

Scott Brown: Elizabeth Warren's EXISTENCE!!! is bad for business!

weejee October 10, 2012 at 7:27 pm

Brown trout all buffo for the Chamberpot of Commerce calling Warren a commie.

FLUSH!!

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 7:27 pm

Wow, Brown is not only ripping off Reagan tonight, but he's stealing his opponent's slogans too.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:28 pm

"middle class"

I'll say this for the moderator–with the exception of the garbled question on health care, these questions are reasonably good. Hope the presidential debate moderators are learning something…

ETA: But yeah, let's hope the Prez moderators keep better control of the audience…

Serfville October 10, 2012 at 7:28 pm

Child labor Nazis! Put those kids to work! Then increase the age of retirement! Rethug evil talking points! No, HERE YOU GO AGAIN!

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:28 pm

I love how Scottie has all of these personal attacks on Warren, but has zero examples of how he has helped the middle class…

Isyaignert October 11, 2012 at 2:31 am

Just like Rmoney. Bitch, bitch, bitch about Obama, but not a word about what he'd do different except somehow "make it better." Trust me. No, really. Trust me.

sullivanst October 11, 2012 at 8:21 am

Almost all of the Romney proposals that could on any planet be described as "specific" (you have to be very generous but sometimes it's possible to get there) are things that Obama is already doing or has done.

Some Romney's campaign all comes down to two things: first, trust him, and second, he's so much more inherently awesome than the black guy that he can do the same thing and get better results.

In other words, he's building his campaign on a pile of trash in the clouds.

BarackMyWorld October 10, 2012 at 7:29 pm

JUST LOOK AT HER.

glasspusher October 10, 2012 at 9:33 pm

I can't. I invariably start doing something else…uh, excuse me…

Jukesgrrl October 11, 2012 at 12:19 am

Wow, that good? I missed this. I'm going to have to find a photo.

JustPixelz October 10, 2012 at 7:29 pm

"Pigs at a trough." He shouldn't talk about his donor's like that.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:29 pm

The middle class invests in the future

Nice, Elizabeth, nice…glad I sent you some bucks last month. More will be on the way once I finish the contribution budget for this election…

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:30 pm

LOVE the sound of those boos to Scottie. Sounds like victory!

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 7:31 pm

Also, listening to Krugman's new book on audiobook, it's suddenliny sort of hilariously, hideously hypocritical for Scott Brown to attack Warren for working for Traveler's Insurance, given that he's the darling of Traveler's Group and Citibank's love-baby, Citigroup.

weejee October 10, 2012 at 7:31 pm

Brownie has the boo birds calling for his scalp.

ed: ooops I went Custer there

sullivanst October 10, 2012 at 7:39 pm

But was it full Custer?

fuflans October 10, 2012 at 7:31 pm

it is weill and i wish you grilled cheese sammiches rebecca.

Serfville October 10, 2012 at 7:31 pm

Hey, I missed that, what was all the booing about?

sudsmckenzie October 10, 2012 at 7:38 pm

Their still pissed they traded Nomar, Nooomaaahh.

Jukesgrrl October 11, 2012 at 12:20 am

They're pissed about a lot of stuff this year. Is anybody even going to WANT to manage that crew?

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:31 pm

Regulations to make sure people don't get cheated

Dear GOD, please please please send this woman to the Senate!

Serfville October 10, 2012 at 7:32 pm

Let the shoe throwing commence!

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:32 pm

Scottie was working in secret to weaken the regulations

In a quiet room somewhere, no doubt…

JustPixelz October 10, 2012 at 7:33 pm

Fair and balanced. To the second.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:33 pm

Mortgage deduction…come on Elizabeth, point out that Mittens' plan will probably require doing so or increasing the deficit…

weejee October 10, 2012 at 7:34 pm

Oh yea!! Liz is bitch-slapping Brownie with Grover Norquist!!!!!!!!!!!!

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:35 pm

Scottie is sucking up to Grover, is he?

Oh yeah–Buffet rule again! And oil subsidies!

Is it me, or is Elizabeth seriously kicking ass? I think she has become a stand up debater, and is much better than she was in the first debate. Gives me hope for Obama…

Serfville October 10, 2012 at 7:36 pm

I second that, she's destroying him Oh for craps sake, ANOTHER truck reference! Then sell yer damn gas guzzling truck.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 10, 2012 at 8:15 pm

She should coach all the Dems.

chascates October 10, 2012 at 7:36 pm

Marianne Faithfull libel! But then I'm an oldz now.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:37 pm

Scottie is trying to say we need to keep handouts for the oil companies or they will overcharge us even more. Yeah, ask us Golden State residents how well coddling the oil companies has worked out…

sullivanst October 10, 2012 at 7:43 pm

Handouts to oil companies lower gas prices, but handouts to colleges increase tuition. Republican consistency.

glasspusher October 10, 2012 at 9:36 pm

Not so well! I just set a personal record for what I paid to fill my tank! $4.71 a gallon. I'm starting to see over five bucks a gallon some places for the first time!

Lascauxcaveman October 10, 2012 at 10:28 pm

Get a bicycle. Craigslist. Cheap.

I'll help you pick one out.

glasspusher October 10, 2012 at 11:17 pm

Hah! It was hardly a complaint. I'd be happy to see 10 bucks a gallon, to get people to change their habits. I have several bikes, and everyone in my family takes BART at least some of the time. I'm thinking of motorizing a bike of mine or two as well.

Callyson October 11, 2012 at 2:02 am

Dude, I'd be in if I weren't afraid of being hit by a psycho driver…

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:37 pm

It sounds like this audience is a-heatin up that tar and a-pluckin them feathers…

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:38 pm

GOOD on how Scottie will let taxes rise for 98% because of the millionaires…

And no, Scottie, they are not the job creators–that title goes to working and middle class families…

Asshole.

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 7:38 pm

Spoiler Alert for Scott Brown's response to this one: I HAVE DAUGHTERS!!!

HouseOfTheBlueLights October 10, 2012 at 7:40 pm

"Houseful of women"- Drink!

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:40 pm

Well spotted…

Angry_Marmot October 10, 2012 at 7:53 pm

So did Lot.

weejee October 10, 2012 at 8:03 pm

And his wife was a pillar of the community.

BoatOfVelociraptors October 10, 2012 at 10:19 pm

Only after she was a-salted… With votes.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 10, 2012 at 8:16 pm

And how'd that turn out?

trampndirtdown October 10, 2012 at 9:31 pm

If I remember right he tried to pimp them out.

viennawoods13 October 10, 2012 at 10:54 pm

Indeed he did… and when they fled, the girls decided to fuck him… literally.

snowpointsecret October 10, 2012 at 7:38 pm

I almost feel bad for Scott Brown. All these facts getting thrown at him must be really confusing. … Almost.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:40 pm

Oh God, Scottie's response to the women's rights question is to go on about his family. Patronizing much? I don't give a shit about your family, Brown…

Plus, shut the fuck up about domestic violence when your party did not want to vote to continue VAWA…

Asshole,

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:40 pm

LOVE how Elizabeth is able to point to Scottie's actual *votes* as opposed to Scottie's "everyone knows I support women's rights" feel good pap of a response…

deanbooth October 10, 2012 at 7:41 pm

She smeared his pap?

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 10, 2012 at 8:17 pm

We'll have to wait for the test results.

snowpointsecret October 10, 2012 at 7:41 pm

Scott Brown logic: I have women in my family so I'm an expert on women's issues.

sullivanst October 10, 2012 at 7:50 pm

Todd Akin has a mother, a wife, and two (maybe three?) daughters. Tells you how much you can read into that.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:41 pm

We should not be fighting about equal pay for equal work and birth control…these issues were settled long ago until the Republicans brought them back

GO ELIZABETH!

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:42 pm

At least *this* moderator is being careful to give them equal time. That fucker David Gregory could learn a thing or ten from this guy…

sudsmckenzie October 10, 2012 at 7:43 pm

I think that Time is clearly winning this debate.

TribecaMike October 10, 2012 at 9:44 pm

Good, because Newsweek sucks even more.

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:43 pm

DANG, she's *hot*!

Lascauxcaveman October 10, 2012 at 7:43 pm

The BOOing lady of MA?

That's no lady, that's a fucking dining room table.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:43 pm

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE…a person who looks at equal pay and sees a gift for trial lawyers has no business going on about how he's so strong on women's rights…

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 10, 2012 at 7:44 pm

Now Senator you get two seconds…

"But I "

Ms Warren 1 and a half seconds…

iburl October 10, 2012 at 7:44 pm

FYI, I don't want to hear any more shit about the way Texas votes as long as "liberal" Massachusetts still has this naked dildo Brown in office.

Isyaignert October 11, 2012 at 2:33 am

I prefer "Senator Staple Crotch."

bobbert October 11, 2012 at 12:17 pm

I take your point, but *cough*louiegohmert*cough*.

fuflans October 10, 2012 at 7:44 pm

i hope the obama team is coming up with responses to benghazi b/c you know romney is going to go after it – gross or not.

Serfville October 10, 2012 at 7:47 pm

I think Prez knew that was coming out about benghazi, as in today, I think that's why he was distracted in the debate. I hope there aren't more bombshells coming out about benghazi, Faux news is hammering Prez with it. But Americans really don't vote on foreign policy. I hope Prez raises his game, way way up. I was shocked on how his performance affected the polls.

Radiotherapy October 10, 2012 at 8:22 pm

What pisses me off is the fickleness of the electorate. To think that 1.5 hours of used car salesmanship and flat out lies and denials can swing these people is pretty bad. (Dusts off passport.)

fuflans October 10, 2012 at 8:29 pm

that's all i've been saying since last week. after the non stop walking disaster of romney's campaign? and a boring president can move the needle that much?

really?

wtf?

Radiotherapy October 10, 2012 at 9:24 pm

This. (Redfin's British Columbia.)

Negropolis October 10, 2012 at 11:42 pm

I hate to say it, but I think it's just plain, subtle racism, maybe racism that it's hlderss don't even realize they have. Seems to me that quite a few of Obama's so-called supporters were looking for ANY excuse to bolt from him. Had any other president turned in a bad debate, it'd be put in some kind of context. But, no, for Obama it's literally the end of the world because…shut up, that's why. Honestly, there is no other explanation. He had an undeniably bad debate, but not so bad that it should have been a game-changer.

RavenRant October 10, 2012 at 11:46 pm

Used car salesman is exactly right. I had forgotten all about the old Joe Isuzu commercials until barrage of lies dredged them back up from dormant memory banks.

weejee October 10, 2012 at 7:45 pm

Mittenz wants us to put boots in Syria. Sweet Jebus, what a fuck. Kick him Liz, kick.

fuflans October 10, 2012 at 7:45 pm

foreign policy: "cautious measured and firm"

that's a keeper

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:45 pm

The president is cautious, measured, and firm

None of which applies to the centerfold…

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:46 pm

FFS, again with conflating cutting the military budget with cutting veterans' benefits. Come on Elizabeth, you need to call this asshole out yet again…

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 7:46 pm

It's not a mistake that he jumped from talking about Veterans to talking about Military cuts. He's intentionally conflating two entirely different budgets.

weejee October 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm

Nothing up this sleeve, and nothing….

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm

And excuse me Scottie, but just how would Senator Warren threaten the security of the State of Israel?

I think he must have watched Mittens and decided that if telling a pack of lies worked for him, it would work tonight as well. Thank God Elizabeth is not having it…

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm

Wtf is this gibberish he's spouting?

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm

Scott Brown on Democratic reforms in the Middle-East: "Troubling"

snowpointsecret October 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm

The most surprisingly depressing part about this debate is that I keep reminding myself that the average of the Republican party is probably worse than Brown, and yet he still sounds this bad.

sullivanst October 10, 2012 at 7:53 pm

If by "probably worse", you mean "certainly far worse", then I concur.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm

Ooooh, this moderator is saying "Mr Brown" not Senator Brown. Good for him!

Lascauxcaveman October 10, 2012 at 7:49 pm

Smart people who can speak well are formidable opponents, eh Scottie?

weejee October 10, 2012 at 7:50 pm

Sorry both debaters, but not all of the questions were good questions and deserve your thanks.

Serfville October 10, 2012 at 7:51 pm

Yeah, LIz's righteous indignation is pitch perfect.

Veritas78 October 10, 2012 at 7:52 pm

She is not conceding anything to him. Keep it coming, Liz!

ednamillion22 October 10, 2012 at 7:52 pm

My Very Catholic Mother is a Warrenista…so much for pitting Catholics against their faith (or whatever).

Jukesgrrl October 11, 2012 at 12:25 am

Mine, too. She made the first political contribution of her 86 years to Liz.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:52 pm

Scottie is going on about how he has been working to protect the military, and his example involves going to meetings and talking to people. Yeah, that's a big help…

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:53 pm

Investments that we need in the future

LOVE how much more specific Elizabeth's answers have been. I hope Mass voters take note of this…

fuflans October 10, 2012 at 8:30 pm

this is what bamz needs to do.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:54 pm

Other than being a father and husband, being Senator is the greatest honor Scottie ever had? Didn't he just dis his military service with that comment?

Angry_Marmot October 10, 2012 at 7:56 pm

To say nothing of Helen Gurley Brown?

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:55 pm

Oh FFS, Scottie is going on about how often he votes with the Dems.

Yeah, that figure was much smaller before Elizabeth got into the race, asshole…

fuflans October 10, 2012 at 7:55 pm

heck of bad closing statement brownie.

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:56 pm

Inarticulate much?

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 10, 2012 at 8:02 pm

inarticulate mush.

MittBorg October 11, 2012 at 3:13 pm

What a difference a letter makes, eh?

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:56 pm

I believe that everyone pays a fair share

Oh yes!

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:57 pm

MUCH more applause for Elizabeth–go audience!

fuflans October 10, 2012 at 7:58 pm

jesus people that wasn't a decembrist's concert.

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 7:58 pm

Well. *THAT* was a refreshing change!

sullivanst October 10, 2012 at 8:02 pm

And now I crave hard cider.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 7:58 pm

OK, I've got to dash out to class (on Financial Statements Analysis, or How To Keep Corporations From Lying Their Asses Off, and Elizabeth has inspired me to learn everything I can on the topic) but I'll check in on everyone's comments later. Happy snarking!

Aw crap, I have to miss the AZ Senate debate. Go Carmona!

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 10, 2012 at 8:01 pm

"Aw crap, I have to miss the AZ Senate debate."

Today we have read something that has never been written before and never will be written again.

mille derps October 10, 2012 at 8:33 pm

Funny- I just read it in two different comments…

Jukesgrrl October 11, 2012 at 12:26 am

AZ's not really a debate. It's all the candidates sitting at a table taking individual questions from the local PBS station. The only thing Pussy Flake would agree to.

snowpointsecret October 10, 2012 at 7:58 pm

Obama, are you taking notes? There's a test on this next week.

fuflans October 10, 2012 at 7:59 pm

that was more fun than listening to the pledge drive.

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 8:00 pm

I wonder how Brown will sit, now that his ass has been handed to him?

glasspusher October 10, 2012 at 11:20 pm

I'd be happy to offer Professor Warren a seat…yeah…

sullivanst October 11, 2012 at 12:10 am

In the style of Old Handsome Joe?

MittBorg October 11, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Hell, I'd offer BOTH those puppies a seat. In turn, of course.

deanbooth October 10, 2012 at 8:00 pm

"The Feel-Good Debate of the Year!" — Election Review Monthly

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 10, 2012 at 8:00 pm

That was Custerrific!

Ms Warren: 3 seconds.

Doktor Zoom October 10, 2012 at 8:01 pm

I'm staying to watch the Arizona debate– 1 Surgeon and 2 Flakes

Mittens Howell, III October 10, 2012 at 8:18 pm

1 Sturgeon and 2 Flakes? That sounds fishy.

Sharkey October 10, 2012 at 8:28 pm

And delicious.

Negropolis October 10, 2012 at 11:44 pm

I wish Carmona could say what he actually feels, but we are talking about an Arizona electorate, after all. If he wins, though, it'll be HUGE.

natl_[redacted]_cmdr October 10, 2012 at 8:05 pm

Repubs motto: "Cheat to win."

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 8:15 pm

And now a debate for the Senate seat for Arizona Crazytown.

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 8:18 pm

Arizona: The Bush Taxes didn't go far enough! We should abolish the Income Tax! Rich people buy cars, and lots of them!

C_R_Eature October 10, 2012 at 8:21 pm

Oh, so this is where everyone is. Did I miss the "Hey, everyone, the Liveblog is starting up top" post?

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 9:23 pm

I dunno, CRE, I'm ALWAYS late to the party.

C_R_Eature October 10, 2012 at 9:58 pm

Well, you obviously need an Oillcan!

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 10:17 pm

Will it get me to the party on time, sweetie?

I could use a little oil for my rusted old joints, ha ha har. Er … joints, you know … hash oil … no?

Never mind.

glasspusher October 10, 2012 at 11:24 pm

The party never ends, it just changes location

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 8:22 pm

Gold Standard!! DRINK!

deliman4 October 10, 2012 at 8:28 pm

Really want Scotty to lose so I can start callin' him"BOOKMARK"

BaldarTFlagass October 10, 2012 at 8:32 pm

Well, I mowed the lawn and came on in to watch and it's a bunch of goddam Arizona guys. Fuck it, Iron Sky/Moon Nazis came in the mail from Netflix today, reckon I'll watch that.

emmelemm October 10, 2012 at 9:50 pm

Whaaaaat??? Iron Sky is available on the DVDs? I know what I'm doing this weekend.

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 10:43 pm

That is SUCH a freekin cool movie!!! Moon Nazis attack during the Palin presidency! With Udo Keir!!! Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lJAw_BtM2g

littlebigdaddy October 10, 2012 at 8:34 pm

OT: but Dickwad Hams is on my PBS right now! Way to reasonable to be a Repub.

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 8:35 pm

And FINALLY, someone is going to take the courageous position of opposing Veterans' care.

Screw 'em! We need to finance some tax cuts!

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 9:20 pm

I recommend a name-change to Inspitefully_Joe. You're getting about as crotchety as me.

mille derps October 10, 2012 at 8:42 pm

How is anchor babby formed?
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Watch-LIVE-Arizona-c

Veritas78 October 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm

So are we too drunk to blog the Veep debate?

Perhaps we are too smashed to read a goddamn TV schedule. "Tomorrow?" I stocked up for a doubleheader tonight! Now what am I gonna do with these drunken dwarves and all this blow? Damn! Victimized, again.

BoatOfVelociraptors October 10, 2012 at 10:26 pm

The real question is "What DON'T you do with a pile of drunken dwarves and blow?".

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 11:36 pm

Honestly. If there's ONE thing we've all learned, and learned well, it's NOT to ask questions when anyone has a surfeit of drunken dwarves and blow. (rolls up twenty-dollar bill, gets in line)

RavenRant October 10, 2012 at 11:47 pm

Do some 'debate prep', and be thorough about it!

Callyson October 11, 2012 at 2:11 am

No, Elizabeth did well enough tonight that I did not have to get *that* drunk, so I'm in it if Wonkette is on it…

mille derps October 10, 2012 at 8:47 pm

"Bipartisan" Flake votes with the GOP more than Shely Bachmann?

Hmmm?

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 9:18 pm

Mighty bipartisan of him.

mille derps October 10, 2012 at 10:05 pm

He probably meant to say 'bicurious'.

How are you doing? I hope you're a little more mobile these days?

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 10:12 pm

HA!

I'm alive, but extremely resentful. I was feeling all sprightly and healed yesterday, which caused a burst of regrettable athleticism. I am now waiting for the resulting muscle pull to heal. Again.

mille derps October 10, 2012 at 11:20 pm

In my world, "regrettable athleticism" is redundant. I hope you're soon re-healed & once you're feeling sprightly again, take it a little easier.

It's finally cooled off a bit here, so I've been a bit sprightly also. Trying to cut back some of the vines trying to take over the back yard (it's been so hot & buggy, they've had most of the summer to stage their attack without opposition, & I am SO outnumbered).

LibrarianX October 10, 2012 at 8:51 pm

Who doesn't love a sexy librarian?

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 9:18 pm

(leers encouragingly at LibrarianX)

mille derps October 10, 2012 at 9:50 pm

Are you familiar with Sam Phillips' "Faster Pussycat to the Library"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIQZRYStufs

"If you don't know what to do, I'll look it up for you"…

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 10:44 pm

I have. And that's all I've got to say about that.
http://librarianavengers.org/worship-2/

glasspusher October 10, 2012 at 11:35 pm

You don't think I'm smart enough to work in your fucking library?

LibrarianX October 11, 2012 at 11:20 am

Some of us are guys, you know…

MittBorg October 11, 2012 at 3:19 pm

Hey, I'm equal-opportunity. And shameless about it.

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 9:02 pm

I did, BeccaLou. I DID fell in love with the sexy Professor lady.

What is it about smart women, they are cute as fuck.

Blueb4sinrise October 10, 2012 at 9:10 pm

Don't know. The smart ones stayed away from me.

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 9:16 pm

You LIE! I know for a fact they go for the weird-looking types.

Whadya MEAN, how do I know?

Blueb4sinrise October 10, 2012 at 9:27 pm

Okay, do your own punchlines.

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 9:43 pm

BE that way.

Aw, c'mon, I wasn't sure you were still here or nuthin'. SOMEbuddy's gotta provide the amusement.

James Michael Curley October 10, 2012 at 9:03 pm

Rebecca I love you! You can sing Pirate Jenny to me all night long. Just smoke a lot of cigs and wear your best Rosa Klebb shoes – you know the ones with the spiked spikes. It would be my Happy End(ing)

mille derps October 10, 2012 at 9:08 pm

Have a look at these Dem Senate candidates, & consider donating a little something: https://secure.actblue.com/page/winthesenate

Jukesgrrl October 11, 2012 at 12:30 am

My cash went to Carmona, Warren, Tammy Duckworth, my boyfriend Sherrod Brown, and Bamz, of course.

sullivanst October 11, 2012 at 12:39 am

I donated to all of those except Sherrod, who's awesome of course, but appeared at the time to have his race well under control (I see the polls have tightened since), so he narrowly lost out to Mazie Hirono when I made the final cut.

mille derps October 11, 2012 at 2:44 am

I donated to 5 of these candidates (I also looked for the ones who seemed to be in tight races), & also to the woman running to be my Congressperson. A very long shot, but stranger things may have happened…

Jukesgrrl October 12, 2012 at 1:00 am

I almost skipped Sherrod and sent the money to One L's opponent, but my love can't be denied.

James Michael Curley October 10, 2012 at 9:10 pm

Oh, and "Whiskey Bar" was music by Kurt Weill putting it to the words of a Bertolt Brecht scrap of text left over from The Good Soldier Sweicht. It became one of the original, pivotal songs in Mahagonny. (Autocorrect sucks)

Sorry, I'll go back into my nerd cell.

fuflans October 10, 2012 at 9:31 pm

'brecht-tubing' was worth it though.

mille derps October 10, 2012 at 9:31 pm

Is "Whiskey Bar" different from "Alabama Song"?

The version I'm most familiar with is from 'Lost in the Stars' (am listening to it now): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_in_the_Stars:_T

James Michael Curley October 10, 2012 at 10:07 pm

I hate German. However "Alabama Song" is the actual title of the piece in the show "The Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny" and is set in an "American Desert" but by the plot is Alaska. The ambiguity comes from the oft repeated line "Show me the way to the next Whiskey Bar." The song is correctly performed in English even when the show is performed in the original German which explains some of the idiosyncratic lyrics. I would guess that the version by The Doors from the 60's which is on their album titled as "Alabama Song (Whiskey Bar)" helped create the ambiguity. I don't know the recording you list and will see if I can find it or preview it. It is hard to get some of the songs listed. The Doors version has merit if only because of the instrumentation. Brecht and Weill in those days were very into American Jazz and Rag Time often specifying things like an upright piano instead of any other.

mille derps October 11, 2012 at 3:18 am

I thought they might be the same, but then again, some composers like to recycle.

Here- have a listen to these songs from that compilation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQsJK0voNRI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDoMQYLRf0Q

James Michael Curley October 11, 2012 at 5:37 am

Thanks. I often choose some of the selections from my town’s music library picks based on compiling different versions of songs I like. One of the great deficiencies of the killing of the original Napster was the ability to hear music which is only a few recording from becoming extinct.

MadBrahms October 10, 2012 at 9:10 pm

Editrix , you won twice. Alabama Song (a.k.a. "Whisky Bar") is from Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagony, an opera composed by Weill using a libretto by Brecht. Surabaiya Johnny is likewise from a Weill / Brecht collaboration, Happy End, though he didn't write the lyrics.

I knew my 2 years in music school would serve me eventually. Now back to our post-fact debate programming.

La_Cieca October 10, 2012 at 11:06 pm

The "Alabama Song" from the Weill-Brecht Mahagonny, as performed at the Metropolitan Opera in December, 1979.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeozviowUGo

The English lyrics are the original even though the rest of the opera is in German. The number is a pastiche of an American pop song, the sort of thing Brecht imagined a gang of prostitutes might sing to pass the time while hitchhiking through Florida.

glasspusher October 10, 2012 at 9:38 pm

goddamn right!

"The hotels all have room service, and the women all have long legs and brains"

TribecaMike October 10, 2012 at 9:42 pm

Perhaps the song you're thinking of is "Goon Over Alabama"?

mille derps October 10, 2012 at 9:46 pm

OT: SEAL's mother doesn't trust Romney & wants him to stop talking about her son: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Mother-of-form

BoroPrimorac October 10, 2012 at 10:28 pm

The Seal's friend said Romney met him once and twenty minutes later introduced himself again as if he had never met him. Watching him get all sentimental over this guy's story is truly fucking sick.

fuflans October 10, 2012 at 10:57 pm

i heard romney spouting this crap this morning – seriously grossed me out.

and by this afternoon all the majors were covering the mom. now bbc has mom.

this guy is SUCH a tool.

BoroPrimorac October 11, 2012 at 12:09 am

I hope they have the Seal's friend all over the morning shows telling the story about Mitt not even remembering his face.

cousinitt October 10, 2012 at 11:08 pm

Rachel was all over that tonight. LIke Boro, I actually watched a grown man callously go for the sentimental jugular of his jug-headed postmodern klansmen. Mitt had no compulsion to use the freaking LIFE of a hero and dead man to advance his own miserable, craven political career.

I so want there to be an afterlife for Mitt. His friends might think it compassionate to baptize the non-Mormon dead; I find it the height of modern vampirism. I would like Mitt to spend eternity with the souls of all the people he has baptized to see how they liked having their soul hijacked by a spiritual vampire terrorist.

Callyson October 11, 2012 at 2:13 am

Go Mom!

mrblifil October 10, 2012 at 10:23 pm

Didn't know she was a closer. She impressed the hell out of me. This performance will make sex with my wife less of a chore HI HONEEEE!

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 11:36 pm

Ooops.

fuflans October 10, 2012 at 11:05 pm

as you all know i am a lily livered miss who freaks right the fuck out when obama wears the wrong color tie (which he never really does). this week has been hell. then i read Hendrik Hertzberg's crushing analysis of the debates and want to slit my wrists.

However, he does provide a spot-on assessment of romney which isn't necessarily any comfort:

"All the evidence indicates that Romney has no “core beliefs” beyond a gauzy assumption that the business of America is business and an unshakable, utterly sincere conviction that he, Mitt Romney, ought to be President, deserves to be President, and, for the sake of the country, must be President."

Radiotherapy October 10, 2012 at 11:49 pm

We can still believe in eight level chess….amirite?

Negropolis October 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm

Meh. Until Warren pulls away I'm going to toss this race into the toss-up category and relegate it to an election day freak-out. I can't expend anymore energy on closes races that shouldn't be close. If Liz can't figure out how to crack this nut, I'm not sure what to say. Et tu, Massachusetts? You lose Kennedy, so then you lose your fucking mind? Seriously?

Fear not, my snark will kick into full gear tomorrow night for the vice presidential debate. I mean, much like bacon, everything is better with Biden.

glasspusher October 10, 2012 at 11:37 pm

I'm in a similar way. Not feeding the negativity, saving my strength…

Negropolis October 10, 2012 at 11:49 pm

Yeah, like any thoughtful lib, I've been in a snit, this week and last, but I can't keep on with the concern trolling when I realize that conservatives praise their candidates no matter how shitty they do. We can't let them when the enthusiasm game. If we have to drag Obama's lifeless campaign across the finish line because he can't do it under his own volition, so be it, and I'll smile while I do it. But, I have a feeling things are going to be different, next week.

Lascauxcaveman October 10, 2012 at 11:51 pm

God, (who I doubt exists), I sure hope so.

BoroPrimorac October 11, 2012 at 12:21 am

I don't think it can get any worse than last week. Thankfully, Mitt has been so busy flapping his gums that his base is starting to get itchy.

Radiotherapy October 10, 2012 at 11:48 pm

Hey look what this dickface did:
http://news.yahoo.com/whoops-florida-governor-giv

Too bad he didn't confuse it with the Medicare Fraud Hotline.

sullivanst October 11, 2012 at 12:19 am

Yeah, what are the odds that somewhere down the line we'll discover that "his wife" owns the phonesex line?

Because Gov. Scott's already forgotten more about grifting than the entire Palin clan will ever know.

BTWBFDIMHO October 11, 2012 at 1:28 am

That's how I imagine a wonketterian party.

mille derps October 11, 2012 at 1:38 am

Y'all preppin' for the next liveblog? http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/10/joe-b

Negropolis October 11, 2012 at 6:40 am

OT: Ruh-roh. Looks like Walmarts workers may finally be ready to play hardball with their multi-national:

The latest news in the Walmart labor protests — which have included walkouts and marches in Dallas, San Diego, Chicago and Los Angeles — is the threat of a strike on Black Friday. That's the day after Thanksgiving, widely considered the busiest, and most lucrative, retail day of the year.

Some 200 angry protesters showed up at a meeting of investors and analysts earlier today at Walmart's headquarters in Bentonville, Ark. Under discussion at the meeting was Walmart's intent to go head-to-head with Amazon and offer same-day delivery.

Walmart is the world's largest private employer and has long been a target of workers' rights groups, who advocate higher wages, more flexibility in hours and an end to the punishments (reduced shifts, for instance) they claim are meted out to workers seeking to unionize.

starfanglednut October 10, 2012 at 10:16 pm

Gah, sorry to hear about your back. Take it easy ok?30 Books?! Gurrl, you're a readin' machine!Do you haz teh netflix?I'm doing ok. Having a hard time with a bio class. Fucking goddam fruit fly genetics, how do they work? Still no honey to cuddle with. Sending some stuff out to literary magazines. That's about it.*kisses teh Z on the top of it's head.

Callyson October 11, 2012 at 1:59 am

Aw fuck, sorry to hear about your back–I didn't know. Hope it heals up soon.

Lascauxcaveman October 10, 2012 at 10:23 pm

You guys are so cute. Keep it up.

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 10:51 pm

No choice about that. I can't walk! Ha! I can't even get my poor behind out of this bed! FWIW, when you're lying in bed reading all day, you can pack away quite a few books. And a lot of them just had pretty pitchers. If they'd all been about fruit fly genetics, I'd probly still be reading next year.

I wish I knew, sweetie. I only ever read snippets in Science News about fruit flies any more. I send good thoughts at all people in your vicinity to institute serious cuddlefests.

What kind of stuff? Am I speaking to a Published Author?

Thanks for the kiss. It'll keep me from being crabby for at least a day.

starfanglednut October 10, 2012 at 10:39 pm

Awww, thanks.

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 11:30 pm

Old age is an unbecoming stage of life. I resent the fact that I can't bend far enough to pick a fallen tomato off the deck. The squirrels will have it for lunch, no doubt.

And I'm trying to coax a final six apple-scented crunchy crispy-sweet cucumbers off a tired old vine. Black tomatoes that fill the palm of my hand, ruby fruit, heavy, sweet, intoxicatingly complex and robust in flavour, pre-salted, almost, some a purple rose, others a deep orangey red, and tiny, thin beans of a perfect fuzzy green to eat with them. I had no idea tomatoes could taste sweeter and richer than plums. Or that home grown chard was so flavourful.

Is there no strapping young lad you can recruit into these endeavours, my dear? Vine-resistance is not for the weak of will. I may soon have to, heh, farm out the weeding of my little piece of heaven.

MittBorg October 10, 2012 at 11:37 pm

And nobody ever tells CRE or me, so we end up stumbling around drunkenly, flailing for all we're worth, which ain't much on a good day.

Jukesgrrl October 11, 2012 at 12:18 am

Oh, Jesus. Been there. Done that. Take care of yourself. Back pain sucks.

sullivanst October 11, 2012 at 12:23 am

His new strategy is to tell the base to fuck themselves, and hope that they assume he's lying now but was telling the truth in the primaries, while at the same time hoping the "moderates" assume he was lying in the primaries and telling the truth now.

Anyone who would knowingly vote for a liar should probably spend all election day fucking themselves and NOT VOTE.

mille derps October 11, 2012 at 1:17 am

Vines are lovely things & the birds love 'em, but we have waaay too much Japanese honeysuckle, Chinese wisteria & greenbrier. The greenbrier is a native & I wouldn't mind it too much, except that it has thorns that keep me from getting to the honeysuckle & wisteria invasives…

But I'm really just putting up a token opposition- I know that I don't really stand a chance of eradicating this stuff.

mille derps October 11, 2012 at 12:11 pm

I have a copy of the CD- if you'd like to hear any of the songs, let me know- I'm sure we can figure something out.

MittBorg October 11, 2012 at 3:08 pm

I still don't see what was "BAD" about it. He didn't come out swinging and he didn't flatten Romney. But he's always been a cautious player who doesn't like to show his hand first. He looked a little tired and stressed. Well, yeah, he has an important job. What the fuck was BAD about his end of the debate? Romney's end was an unbelievable LIEFEST, but that's OK?

MittBorg October 11, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Thank you, darlz. You're so sweet. Nice to see you back, btw.

MittBorg October 11, 2012 at 3:25 pm

Thanks, sweetie. It's just really annoying. But I has teh good drogas.

MittBorg October 11, 2012 at 3:52 pm

I R INOSENT! CHECK TEH DNA!

sullivanst October 11, 2012 at 3:59 pm

Oh you sweet innocent thing, you, thinking Presidential debates are about content and substance and not merely who looks and sounds more "Presidential" (whatever that's supposed to mean).

What was "BAD" about it was "He looked a little tired and stressed." That's the only measure most voters use, and therefore the only measure the media are interested in.

Meanwhile, Romney looked and sounded confident telling his 27 lies (by ThinkProgress' count), and therefore his performance was "good".

MittBorg October 11, 2012 at 4:43 pm

Sully, my love, I blame the drugs. I'm awake now, and somewhat more sober, having read various news sites. Appalling. This race should not be close, and the apparent swing in the women's vote is simply insane. As soon as I can walk again, I'm bringing some wine up to the bedroom to watch the next debates through the bottom of a glass.

Negropolis October 12, 2012 at 1:58 am

Meanwhile, Romney looked and sounded confident telling his 27 lies (by ThinkProgress' count), and therefore his performance was "good".

This. If these things were about facts and truth We'd have had so many different presidents than we've had it wouldn't even be funny.

These things are all about style, that's it.

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