THE PULL-OUT METHOD  2:25 pm October 10, 2012

Pollster To O’Reilly: Romney Is So Far Ahead In Invisible Polls That I Quit

by Jesse Taylor

David Paleologos, director of polling at Suffolk University, has “pulled” his pollsters out of Florida, North Carolina and Virginia because it is simply impossible for Barack Obama to win.

Paleologos said the movement towards Romney in the three states was “overwhelming.” Obama was in particular trouble in Florida, where even before last week’s presidential debate he was only up by 46 percent to 43 percent over Romney.

He described that as “a poor place to be” for an incumbent, adding that supporters of 10 fringe candidates on the ballot in the Sunshine State overwhelmingly had Romney as their second choice, meaning they were likely to vote for him if they did not want to waste their vote.

Wait, huh? Homeboy is going to stop polling because Obama wasn’t up by enough? Are you even allowed to do that under the Pollster Code?

Suffolk University has polled the presidential race exactly twice since May. They found Obama up by two in Virginia on September 27, and up by three in Florida on October 2.

Now, you could believe that Suffolk was going to do the three states mentioned above again over the coming weeks, and decided not to because of magic overwhelming numbers that showed a landslide. Or you could just look back at their 2008 polling, where Suffolk didn’t poll North Carolina at all, polled Virginia and Florida (at nearly the exact same time in early October!) and did a handful of other scattered polling over the next month, including Florida like a month later.

Why, it’s almost like David Paleologos is trying to make a completely baseless partisan point while obscuring the fact that his tiny polling outfit doesn’t do much polling and wasn’t going to poll these states again anyway!




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actor212 October 10, 2012 at 2:27 pm

David Paleologos

His name means "old knowledge"…really?

sullivanst October 10, 2012 at 2:34 pm

So old it's dead.

Pragmatist2 October 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm

In ots original form "logos" meant something closer to "opinion." Either way, you have to think it is fake.

actor212 October 10, 2012 at 2:28 pm

Suffolk University

It's called "Suffolk" cuz it's Suffolking far out on the fringe.

Esteev October 10, 2012 at 3:14 pm

For a minute I thought these morons were on Long Island. And it made a lot of sense.

Come here a minute October 10, 2012 at 2:29 pm

I can't believe Obama made the rookie mistake of having a lead in the polls.

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 2:29 pm

So was Thomas Dewey, but…

Radiotherapy October 10, 2012 at 2:36 pm

No that Dewey!

Mumbletypeg October 10, 2012 at 2:44 pm
gullywompr October 10, 2012 at 2:29 pm

The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.

Or blinders…

EatsBabyDingos October 10, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Paleologos, like Phillips 66 and Pan Am. Worthless today.

mrblifil October 10, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Perhaps he might consider a poll up his ass?

Radiotherapy October 10, 2012 at 2:47 pm

With rusty chainsaw votes!

kittensdontlie October 10, 2012 at 3:26 pm

That's exactly from where he polls are pulled.

Lucidamente1 October 10, 2012 at 2:33 pm

David Paleologos: wasn't he the Byzantine Emperor known as "The Retarded One Who Can't Count?"

Radiotherapy October 10, 2012 at 2:33 pm

This is a Poll Lock!

PuckStopsHere October 10, 2012 at 2:33 pm

Why bother to poll when you can just feel it in your bones?

actor212 October 10, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Polling is just fact-checking, anyway

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 2:37 pm

But of course…Paleologos has a boner for Mitt. This all makes sense now…

Not_So_Much October 10, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Will the idea be that if they plop all these shitty polls out there now, and then (R)Money loses, they can cry FOUL!, because polls said Mittens was going to win?

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Snark off–that's what Slate is speculating:

Our turn to chant "Sore Loserman" in 3…2…1…

edgydrifter October 10, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Any polls between now and election day that don't support the Diebold results might erode confidence in our democracy, and that simply won't do.

Hammiepants October 10, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Oh whatever. A week or so ago polls didn't matter because Tha' Halfrican was up in all of them – now that the Mittbot has moved up a bit, OMG THE POLLS SO IMPORTANT!!! The Foxtards have as much trouble taking a stance on anything as The 'Bot has deciding what he's for today.

hagajim October 10, 2012 at 3:03 pm

One reason I like John Stewart so much…he shows them backtracking and reversing course constantly to suit their talking points. Always nice to see bullshit artists called out.

Callyson October 10, 2012 at 2:35 pm

Let's just be glad this guy isn't running a polling place. "OK, folks, we've counted enough votes, you can all go home now…"

actor212 October 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm

"If Obama wins re-election, I'm going to shut down and throw me all out of work!"

finallyhappy October 10, 2012 at 4:37 pm

That happened here in Maryland – likely Dem voters in PG county in the last governor's election were called by a GOP group and told to stay home because O'Malley had won.

mrpuma2u October 10, 2012 at 2:35 pm

If I stop polling while my guy is ahead, that will magically preserve the "lead" he has and we can get rid of NOBAMAZ, right? I'll be in my room with my head under the covers until Nov. 6th.

EatsBabyDingos October 10, 2012 at 2:36 pm

Suffolk polls are known for having a statistical deviation of + or – 95%.

snowpointsecret October 10, 2012 at 2:37 pm

I'll really miss the polls that don't exist…

BoatOfVelociraptors October 10, 2012 at 2:38 pm

More likely he couldn't get anyone to pay for those polls.

SoBeach October 10, 2012 at 3:00 pm


ManchuCandidate October 10, 2012 at 2:38 pm


AbandonHope_ October 10, 2012 at 3:24 pm

Seriously, I've been expecting this for… well, actually, since the day Obama was first elected. Either the Republicants would end up actually rigging the vote, or would scream that the vote was rigged against them.

I still put either as being likely, depending on how many Diebold voting machines are out there.

BaldarTFlagass October 10, 2012 at 2:38 pm

Did O'Reilly steal John Oliver's "Poll Smoking" bit?

Generation[redacted] October 10, 2012 at 2:47 pm

People often point at O'Reilly and say, "Hey, there's that poll smoker from TV!"

bureaucrap October 10, 2012 at 2:38 pm

Translation: "If Fox News just pays me, I'll tell 'em whatever they wanna hear."

mavenmaven October 10, 2012 at 2:39 pm

I came off the Onion site, and then tried to read this article. I saw a lot of references to polls and couldn't figure out what it all meant.

BadKitty904 October 10, 2012 at 2:40 pm

Jeez, there's nothing worse than an incompetent poll dancer…

PubOption October 10, 2012 at 2:54 pm


Wilcoxyz October 10, 2012 at 2:41 pm

My Magic 8 Ball said ask again later. But it has a known Obama bias, because they're both black.

Dr_Zoidberg October 10, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Oh, well, that's it! It's all over for President Obama!! Everyone meet at my house tonight for a massive Democratic Party suicide bash!

You gotta bring your own poison, though. I'm not made of money.

Negropolis October 11, 2012 at 2:02 am

That's so very Republican of you. A liberal would go broke to make sure his friends sucided themselves properly and with love.

BaldarTFlagass October 10, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Man, this debate was a real game changer.

mille derps October 10, 2012 at 2:43 pm

I wonder how many states don't ever get polled- I can't find any polls in SC since the GOP primary season… This is a small state- if a bunch of hippie commies moved here over the course of 4 years, we could become a blue state without any of those pollster folks having a clue.

I guess the allergy meds must be kicking in now?

johnnyzhivago October 10, 2012 at 2:43 pm

The Only Poll That Counts is the one that Diebold isprogramming into their machines.

DesertTed October 10, 2012 at 2:44 pm

I think he pulled his POLE.

Rosie_Scenario October 10, 2012 at 2:46 pm

All I have to say is "Suffolk U!"

BaldarTFlagass October 10, 2012 at 2:47 pm

Man, come November 7th these folks are gonna feel like I did after the Pats went from 18-0 to 18-1 back in 2008.

snowpointsecret October 10, 2012 at 3:02 pm

Or how I felt when the Packers lost that game to Seattle, just the complaints about the result were more justified in the football game.

johnnyzhivago October 10, 2012 at 2:47 pm

I prefer the scientific polls on the "Ed Show" where Obama always wins 97%-3%.

smitallica October 10, 2012 at 2:50 pm

Nothing says scientific rigor like "this short-lived anomaly of a trend will probably continue so why bother?"

BaldarTFlagass October 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm

I've seen receding hairlines before, but never an assaulting hairline. Dude has a threehead, not a forehead.

DerrickWildcat October 10, 2012 at 3:06 pm

He's like that Judge Napolitano guy on Fox.

fatbob54 October 10, 2012 at 4:23 pm

HIs hairline wants to have sex with his unibrow.

Gleem McShineys October 10, 2012 at 5:36 pm

It is simple physics. Most people have brains that hold up the front of their heads.

ElPinche October 10, 2012 at 2:55 pm

I don't care at this point. who's POTUS. Just make the polltardation stop.

ChrisM2011 October 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm

Does O'Reilly get royalties every time he does his Ginsu knife hand chop thing?

James Michael Curley October 10, 2012 at 2:59 pm

Invisible polls, like the ones the russians said weren't buried in Katyn Forest.

Negropolis October 11, 2012 at 2:03 am

Too soon!

James Michael Curley October 11, 2012 at 7:10 am

I have often attend the memorial services at the Katyn Memorial on the waterfront in Jersey City over the last twenty years. They actually have two, one commemorating the invasion of Poland on Septeber 1 and one on September 17 the day the Soviets invaded. A few other services are held ad hoc but those two have many attendees. The official count has now reached 21,600 as it is believed the last of the graves have been found.

Incitefully_Joe October 10, 2012 at 3:03 pm

What a coincidence! The Romney Campaign also decided back in September that he was crushing Obama so much in Michigan and Pennsylvania that he decided to pull advertising in those states!

Feel the Romnentum, folks!

Negropolis October 11, 2012 at 2:04 am

The local media asked both Obama and Romney if they needed Michigan to win just the other day. Bith of them pretty much reiterated that they aren't going to put any real money in, here, because they already know the result, despite the media trying to make it a horserace here with biased polls.

LibrarianX October 10, 2012 at 3:03 pm


DerrickWildcat October 10, 2012 at 3:08 pm

I just heard Limbaugh talking about the same thing 20 minutes ago. That audience is just force fed so much crap that they are oblivious to reality.

finallyhappy October 10, 2012 at 4:38 pm

GOOD- maybe they will believe it and not vote

Terry October 10, 2012 at 3:11 pm

Sounds like SOMEONE ran out of funding for his polls and is looking to get some attention.

Esteev October 10, 2012 at 3:16 pm

Polls Appear, Polls Disappear. Can't explain that.

DemmeFatale October 10, 2012 at 3:20 pm

Overconfidence! I love it!
(Rubs hands together with glee.)

TootsStansbury October 10, 2012 at 3:20 pm

Hmmm…I smell a rat(fucker).

BlueStateLibel October 10, 2012 at 3:22 pm

Relax, he's just doing his Bagdad Bob impression. Those U.S. tanks in the distance are just a mirage, just like Obama's impending re-election.

barto October 10, 2012 at 3:29 pm

Maybe he should stick to paleology, at least that's about stuff that has actually happened.

pdiddycornchips October 10, 2012 at 3:29 pm

Is anyone else depressed lately? Because I have a gut feeling this thing may end badly.

Troglodeity October 10, 2012 at 3:33 pm

Yes. Unless Obama performs a total 180 in the last two debates. (Um, wait, that would be a 360.)

fatbob54 October 10, 2012 at 4:29 pm

I'm depressed, but not about Obama losing.
Obama will win, repubs will claim he stole the election, wingnuts will go on murder sprees and call it watering the tree of liberty with blood, David Brooks will wring his hands and bemoan the lack of civility on both sides of the issue, It will be decided that it's good for McCain, the rich will get richer, the poor will continue to go to war, and I will continue to lose good brain cells to boxed wine.

rocktonsam October 10, 2012 at 4:45 pm

not really. i was more worried when walnuts picked $arah.

Mittens big surge was caused of course by getting all tough and shouty and of course the lies.

When i was getting divorced, my ex and her lawyer just filled the room with lies and bullshit and the judge saw through it, thankfully for me and my kids.

I think Barry was actually ROPE A DOPING Mittens. So everybody has their panties in a bunch for a while. Now, Mittens is quietly moving to the center while the cash rolls in, Like Bush, Mittens will disappoint his base.

It will be close, may be. Axlerod better be on his game also.

pdiddycornchips October 10, 2012 at 5:42 pm

I should put my faith in the wisdom of the American people to do the right thing? Great, now I'm even more depressed. It's time for some serious self medicating.

pdiddycornchips October 10, 2012 at 6:22 pm

You DO know that stuff about eleven dimensional chess was bullshit right? Romney only needs to convince a small percentage of white women that he's really a nice guy and that it is Obama who destroyed all the jobs and forced them to get food stamps. If enough dingbats believe Romney will personally give them a six figure job his first day in office (and trust me, there are people who believe that), he can swing Florida and Ohio and that's that. Barry has to go back to what worked before the debate. Romney doesn't give a shit about you. He's been a privileged, pompous dick his entire life and no matter how much he tries to pretend otherwise for the next four weeks, he's not going to stop being a pompous dick.

PennyDreadful October 10, 2012 at 11:49 pm

Yes. Feels like 2000 and 2004 again. Me no likey.

Negropolis October 11, 2012 at 2:07 am

It does feel like 2004…because Romney is Kerry.

GregComlish October 10, 2012 at 3:30 pm

Jesus fucking Christ, tomorrow's debate cannot come soon enough. Anything to end this non-stop fomenting bullshit narrative about the fucking debate and how Obama "lost" because he didn't explicitly say how full of shit Romney is. All we need is one more window into how repellent and dishonest the Republican ticket is so this whole thing blows over.

pdiddycornchips October 10, 2012 at 6:46 pm

Not to put too fine a point on it but Ryan is a professional liar. He's made a nice name for himself disguising his scheme to destroy the social safety net. He'll sit there with his puppy dog face and lie about everything. Biden had better be prepared to wrap his record around his neck and hang him with it. If he doesn't, the visuals will make Biden look like he's being mean to the nice little boy from Wisconsin.

Gawd I really hate that we're so fucking stupid as to be fooled again and again by the nice looking white man with the kind eyes and crooked smile. These fuckers talk about all kinds of things but the only thing they actually do, consistently and without fail, is cut taxes for rich assholes. Nothing else matters. If elected, they will continue giving tax cuts to rich assholes. And yet, most white men in the middle of the country, the very people who's standard of living has been hurt the most, will vote for the guy with the (R) next to his name. This country doesn't need a new leader, it needs an intervention.

GregComlish October 10, 2012 at 10:45 pm

We all know what's coming from the Republicans: sanctimonious bullshit. I don't want to understand the difficulties of confronting it, but a good politician can handle it deftly. And it's not like they didn't have time to prepare for this contingency.

Negropolis October 11, 2012 at 2:09 am

Lest you forget, he's a professional liar who the media absolutely eviscerated after his convention speech making what should have been a poll bounce into a dead-cat bounce. Ryan is coming into this thing at a disadvantage.

Troglodeity October 10, 2012 at 3:32 pm

Gee, you'd almost think he knew for sure, ahead of time, that Romney was going to win those states.

But how could that possibly be? *cough cough votersuppression fraud*

teebob2000 October 10, 2012 at 3:35 pm

A Newsmax link?? Yer killin us here!!

dcjdjay October 10, 2012 at 3:40 pm

And here I thought that Suffolk U polling was a legitimate polling organization. Really. Wow, the things one learns.

LibertyLover October 10, 2012 at 3:44 pm

David Paleologos' name is an anagram of "Avoid Sad Ego Poll"… so maybe he's just following his dream….

TribecaMike October 10, 2012 at 4:09 pm

Democrats should do likewise and quit whining about Obama's debate performance.

SayItWithWookies October 10, 2012 at 4:15 pm

"This is your captain speaking — we're almost at the airport now, so I'm just gonna go use the bathroom and then put my feet up because it's pretty much inevitable that we're gonna have a safe landing."

TribecaMike October 10, 2012 at 4:17 pm

Sarah Palin has found her ideal running mate.

fatbob54 October 10, 2012 at 4:18 pm

I'm fine with the cons believing that Rmoney has such a huge lead. I say spread the word! No need to drive your Rascals to the polling place on Nov. 6th old people, Romney's gonna win anyways. Just head over to Denny's for the early bird special and celebrate the glorious victory!

finallyhappy October 10, 2012 at 4:39 pm

The early Big Bird special, did ya say?

ttommyunger October 10, 2012 at 4:38 pm

The only polls that count for shit are exit polls, which is why they are in the process of being suppressed by the Right Nationwide.

rabritz October 10, 2012 at 5:18 pm

Free at last, free at last, good God almighty free at last from the chains of statistical evidence. Suffolk U.'s David Paleologos aint doin no mo pollin in Florida because Mitt is just so close behind, its just overwhelming.

DahBoner October 10, 2012 at 5:35 pm

Shit yeah!

Romney is so fur ahead, just sit back and rest a spell and break out that XXX moonshine jug and enjoy yerselves!!!

owhatever October 10, 2012 at 5:42 pm

I got skewed.

mosjef October 10, 2012 at 8:49 pm

Bill! Jerry Sandusky on line 1!

Negropolis October 11, 2012 at 2:00 am

It's obvious that they are pulling out not simply because they don't poll often, but for the complete opposite reason than the one they gave: Obama's probably going to win all three of those states.

outragedcitizen October 11, 2012 at 8:22 am

Well, you know how it is a Faux Nudes, you have to take "good" news where ever you can find it otherwise you're just making stuff up.

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