should've held the rally at a popeye's

University Of Wisconsin Profs: This Campus Is No Place For Speech

letsh writeth another letterthToday, Barack Obama spoke in front of 30,000 supporters at the University of Wisconsin, which is surprising, because a day full of cable news has informed us that everyone hates Barack Obama now after he didn’t straight pimp slap Mitt Romney last night.

Anyway, three professors at UW are Republicans … oh, we mean, very concerned about the disruptive, invasive nature of the event.

A trio of high-profile UW-Madison professors went public Wednesday with concerns about President Barack Obama’s planned Thursday campaign rally, saying students who want to attend are unfairly being required to supply a phone number and email address to the campaign, even having to click “I’m In” to get a free ticket at the campaign’s website.

“If you want to go to this hugely important and interesting event you have to register with the campaign,” said political science professor Donald Downs. “That raises questions.”

Downs was joined by law professor Ann Althouse and political science professor Ken Mayer in raising concerns. Mayer sent a letter outlining four concerns to university administrators on Wednesday. Althouse later shared it with, a conservative-leaning blog run by a Texas law professor.

Conservative academics pissed about liberals on campus, who then e-mailed Instapundit? This is a NEW AND SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT IN ACADEMIA.

First, campaigns asking for contact information from people who attend events is only new if you haven’t been following politics since the invention of the internet. Oh, wait, not the internet – since the invention of printing. And it’s not actually, you know, mandatory, either.

But wait, there’s more, because if there’s one thing university professors are truly excellent at, it’s coming up with ways that really awesome things inconvenience them. From Ken Mayer:

“It hardly seems appropriate to shut the central campus down for an entire day, closing offices and seriously disrupting our mission,” he wrote. “I have several colleagues who had scheduled exams for Thursday. Surely there were other venues that would pose less disturbance.”

University staffers in buildings shut down by Thursday’s event were encouraged by administrators to take a vacation or personal day, rearrange their hours before and after Thursday to make up for lost hours or work from home or a different location, Sweeney said.

“This is what pushed me into the seriously annoyed category,” Mayer wrote. “The UW is penalizing staff (or, at a minimum, dramatically inconveniencing them) for an event that they had no say in organizing or scheduling.”

Why, it’s almost like campuses have public squares in which people might want to speak, and in which they have a constitutional right to do so! Obama should have found somewhere else to shove his 30,000 remaining fans than a giant space traditionally reserved for speech, because fuck if a one-day inconvenience will stop the important mission of professorial bitching.

You may read more of Ann Althouse fretting over the phrase “I’m In” on the Obama campaign website here, which seems to be problematic because … I don’t know, she’s just terrible.

[Wisconsin State Journal]

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  1. chascates

    Spicy tenders, a large red beans and rice, two biscuits with honey and a large sweet tea, please.

        1. Mojopo

          That's exactly right. Me too. We double up on the red beans and add cole slaw. I hate you because I'm hungry now.

    1. Negropolis

      I have no idea what you're talking about, but I'd like a two-piece, white, spicy with a side of green beans and a Pepsi, por favor. Oh, and a side of popcorn shrimp with confetti sauce.

    1. actor212

      U rah rah ruh roh

      TRANSLATED: Waddya mean they havvvvvvvvve t*hic*o give out ph-ph-phonnnnnnnne numbersh? Thash wha I oosed ta do in barsh an no one eb-urp-ber called me, shcept guysh who copied i-*hic*-it off bafroom wallsh!

      I fink I jusht farted chunksh…

  2. weejee

    Well this trio was so flat they get no brats or PBR. Next time try not to so sadly slide into your notes when you are singing for your supper since as Mittens said last night, he is axing edjumahkayshun if he gets elected.

    1. memzilla

      "Your Honor, he's witnessing the badger!"

      (NB: Shaggy-dog-story intro to punchline above redacted to conserve Wonket bandwidth)

  3. Abernathy

    Sure, Outhouse, all those people were upset that they had to work from home or skip an exam.

      1. James Michael Curley

        On Romney's first day in office he will install, free to every US citizen, a Sleep Mode for those tedious weekends. To save money it will be the same subroutine used in WindowsME.

      1. coolhandnuke

        It's you. Listen up you uptight heffalump, clean up your act, and let the students do the shit that students do. How about adding some literature like Communism Now and Better Slums and Pot Gardens. And you're out of toilet paper.
        P.S. Would you consider installing a condom or abortion machine?

    1. GhostBuggy

      I'm related to a few teachers, and believe me, those usually most jazzed about getting out of an exam are them whut done the teaching.

    1. Chichikovovich

      Totally! And why aren't a couple of the mechanical engineers getting in on the action? What's wrong with that place?

        1. tessiee

          According to…
          a certain person whose name shall remain anonymous, but whose initials are P.D….
          It's possible to turn *the entire engineering building* into a bong by closing all the downstairs windows and opening some of the upstairs ones.

          1. Yellerdawg

            No, that's just a chimney. Turning it into a bong involves flooding the basement and using the fume hood stacks on the roof. You can only do that on weekends.

  4. finallyhappy

    "this is what pushes me into the seriously annoyed category"- really- is this guy on SNL or just a whiny bitch?

  5. Barbara_

    Oh Ann, pop a Midol, have a cup of tea and quit your bitchin'. The Secret Service can't work around your schedule of when you are riding the cotton pony.

    1. actor212

      Ann Althouse is Liquor Spice: the blonde one that can't sing, and hangs uncomfortably onto the shoulder of the manager who only does her when they're in some bohunk town…

      …like Madison, WI

      1. Chet Kincaid_

        Maybe you meant "podunk town"? Any and all bohunks are in Milwaukee, Green Bay and Chicago. EDIT: And besides, UW Madison, which I call "UW Radical", is well-known as the Berserkley of the Midwest out here in Flyover Land, bottle-blonde-booby-flashing wingnut lawyers notwithstanding.

  6. Fairtackle

    Mitt Romney would never do something like that because he believes so strongly in education.

    1. miss_grundy

      No, he doesn't, and he wants to give Big Bird a pink slip. I guess BB will have to learn Mandarin or Cantonese….

  7. BlueStateLibel

    Need some NYPD to set the POTUS and his "campaign" straight about hanging out in public places, I'm thinking.

  8. coolhandnuke

    “This is what pushed me into the seriously annoyed category,” Mayer wrote.

    No one speaks or writes like this…even with a mouth or fistful of wang.

  9. Mittaplasia

    Commie pinko elitists won't be happy until every university goes Berserkeley. Them whippersnappers need to be neither seen nor heard and must be protected from the scourge of soshalism which can quickly lead to an endless variety of other "isms".

    1. Lionel[redacted]Esq

      Well, you see, for some reasons these wonderful Republican professors believe people will get annoyed that the President of the United States decided to give a speech at their school.

      Oh, wait, you were being sarcastic.

  10. skmind

    Conservative academics pissed about liberals on campus, who then e-mailed Instapundit? This is a NEW AND SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT IN ACADEMIA.

    Heh! The real shocker is that there are conservative academics in the first place.

    1. PsycWench

      There are usually quite a few in business, a fair amount in political science and criminal justice and then a smattering elsewhere. The guy in the next office is fairly conservative and boy does he keep his mouth shut about politics at the lunch table.

  11. SmutBoffin

    Yay! My Alma Mater!

    Somebody get the President a table at the Rathskellar and pour him one.

    1. bobbert

      They should get him to carve his name in a table.

      And, as a fellow Badger, I'd like to invite Ann Althouse to eat the traditional bag of salted rat dicks with cheese curds.

  12. docterry6973

    Students as Madison must be very tolerant these days. There was a time when these complainers would have found 5,000 people lined up at their office doors tomorrow.

      1. Toomush_Infer

        Hey! I remember some of this, hanging out with Michmakon in some of the apartments near campus….buds and pepper spray galore….

  13. memzilla

    [UW PoliSci Professor] Mayer sent a letter outlining four concerns [about the President's visit] to university administrators on Wednesday.

    1. Black.
    2. Not Caucasian.
    3. Melaninally advantaged.
    4. Also, black.

      1. memzilla

        10. Of the Negro persuasion.

        That turn of phrase has always amused me. Do these people who use this term think that there's some grunt angel in heaven, some corporal in the Holy Quartermaster Corps, who's on the fetus assembly line, trying to sell them on it, saying "Oh, come on, take this DNA, it'll be really cool to be black!" and "I'm tellin' ya, fried chicken and waffles is da bomb!"

    1. Doktor Zoom

      No, you see, they're liberal fascists, teaching indoctrinating their students to worship Marx and dabble in the ghey, so they'll arrive home at Thanksgiving and announce to their parents that they reject God and America.

      The conservatives are the brave ones, keeping the candle of freedom lit in that immense darkness.

        1. glasspusher

          Sexy female undergrad: I would do anything to get an A in this class…

          Male professor: would you study?

        1. glasspusher

          As someone who was briefly a college professor, and a liberal one, let me state clearly: I was and still am all about the pussy.

      1. tessiee

        "they'll arrive home at Thanksgiving and announce to their parents that they reject God and America"

        Clove cigarettes — check
        Nose piercing — check
        Weird hairdo and/or eyeliner in the daytime — check
        Tee shirt with inflammatory slogan — check
        Boyfriend/girlfriend of inappropriate race and/or sex and/or age, who I will then introduce to Grandma as "my lover" — check

        I feel like I'm forgetting something, but what could it be?
        *smacks forehead*
        Oh, RIGHT — rejecting God and America!

  14. Not_So_Much

    3 out of how many hundred? Their pissy-ness will be as effective as cutting PBS to solve the deficit.

  15. shelwood46

    When the UW campus I went to in not-Madison was built in the early '70s, included in the design were riot gates in every major corridor and a helipad on the library roof in case the Chancellor needed to escape. This was because nothing political, ever, had happened on a University of Wisconsin campus.

    1. An_Outhouse

      similar to when they expanded the U of Buffalo campus. They put it in the middle of nowhere.

      1. shelwood46

        Yup, they also moved the campus from the middle of town to four miles outside, completely isolated, and initially with no on-campus housing. The curriculum and campus were set up so that kids of different majors interacted with each other as little as possible, with no central meeting space whatsoever, not even a cafeteria till years later. (There was a bar, because it was WI, who are we kidding.) They were not taking any chances of riots or bombings.

          1. shelwood46

            Green Bay. They were bumped up from a 2-year to a full 4-year in 1971, and completed the campus in '74. So what happened in Madison was very much on their minds when they made their plans, something I know from a conversation with the first Chancellor (he told me about the helipad).

  16. Lionel[redacted]Esq

    It does the heart good to see political science and law professors complain about someone using their right to free speech for political purposes. Clearly both those fields know that such speech should be limited, as there is no money in it.

  17. mavenmaven

    Don't worry, Mr Downs. Once the Republicans take control of the education budget, they will make sure you and all your humanities colleagues will be first in line for re-training programs so that you can be a more profitable taxpayer.

  18. Radiotherapy

    I'm sure they'll be bitching further when Chancellor Romney and Herr Ryan cut funding to all land-grant universities.

    1. Negropolis

      The thing I like about Wisconsin is that it's capital is Madison. Also, Milwaukee is pretty funky. Also. Too.

  19. Exhausted66

    Know what's more annoying? Losing your job at a publicly funded university because millionaires need more tax breaks.

  20. sudsmckenzie

    I'm here, they have a point, Its like if Mittens showed up at Brigham Young. (Hopey just likes Bascom Hill cause theres a statue of Lincoln and its at sea level). The choir is already here, and he preached, but jeebers fuck he fucked up last night.

  21. HarryButtle

    Right, because as a POLITICAL SCIENCE perfesser, there's absolutely no way to make a visit by a sitting president part of a topical lecture or assignment that might have real world implications for the future of your students.


  22. fartknocker

    The cool thing about U of W @ Madison is the School of Dairy Science operates a very nice ice cream parlor at the Student Union. They make some of the best ice cream I've ever had. You know what else this same School receives: grants, especially from the USDA.

    Professors Douchebag, Goatfuck, and Shitstain need to stop biting the hand that helps feed their tenured institution.

    1. anniegetyerfun

      As far as I can tell, the only good thing to ever come out of Washington State University is an incredibly expensive but crumbly, sharp cheddar called Cougar Gold. Oddly enough, it comes in a can, but it's outstanding.

      1. natl_[redacted]_cmdr

        I've had Cougar Gold.

        Her name was [redacted].

        Come to think of it, I've also had Cold Cougar, which was not as good.

        1. tessiee

          'I've had Cougar Gold."

          *swivels hips*
          Oh, no, you *haven't*, Bay-bay!
          *grabs cmdr by ears*
          *Smoochy smooch smooch!*

    2. GunToting[Redacted]

      UMD College Park also had that. Fantastic ice cream. They also had a functioning nuclear reactor on campus, but I don't think they used that to make ice cream.

    3. docterry6973

      My alma mater Penn State (please – too soon) has a fantastic ice cream parlor as befits the easternmost of the great cow colleges.

      1. phillipmarlowe2terry

        My understanding is that the Penn State ice cream is soooo fatty that it can only be sold on campus, less some asshole buys it from Wegman's, eats it, dies and his asshole family sues Wegman's.

        1. glasspusher

          Had a friend who went there, it's near Bellafonte PA, and the students call the locals, who are often on the hefty side, "Bellaphants"

          1. docterry6973

            Many of the Big 10 schools are in cities or towns of some size, but Penn State is in the middle of nowhere. The small town that clings to the edges of the campus is a dot of prosperity in the middle of Appalachia. There has always been tension between town and gown, as they say.

    4. Negropolis

      Must be a land grant, thing, because Michigan State University also has a local landmark ice cream parlor with products made from the nearby expiremental farms.

    5. Yellerdawg

      When I started at UTexas, they had just moved a reactor out of the basement of the building I worked in. Lead/cement blocks still line the parking lot and inner hallways of the basement. As we speak, the world's most powerful (Petawatt) laser sits about 100 yards from my office. If I listen closely I can hear the pew-pew sounds when they light it off. Still, when the President came to speak a few years back, even in Texas, we gladly shut down half the campus and enjoyed the day. W. never stopped in, even though his former office is within walking distance.

  23. Callyson

    students who want to attend are unfairly being required to supply a phone number and email address to the campaign, even having to click “I’m In” to get a free ticket at the campaign’s website.

    FFS, grow up. When I went to see Al Gore back in 2000, I not only had to give my email and phone, I had to give my social security number and have my bag searched. Which is probably a good thing, sadly…

    1. PubOption

      I have objections to supplying details such as phone numbers, or street or e-mail addresses, when I think that they will be used to pester me later. This would apply whether or not I agreed with the speaker at an event such as this.

      1. Callyson

        Yeah, I can see that–ideally, they'd give you an opt-out option, the way some online petitions let you check a box if you don't want to be bombarded with emails from them later.

        Now excuse me while I check what these 24 new emails are…

  24. OneYieldRegular

    What the hell is the matter with these people? It's a university, right? I mean, even if it were just a typing school, or a gym class, or a taco stand, it's not every day that one gets visited by the President of the United States.

    1. Negropolis

      You know, I think it's just that liberal chancellors are desirous that a conservative faculty do well…

  25. ProgressiveInga

    …"Ann Althouse fretting over the phrase 'I’m In'…"

    Funny, she didn't complain last night…..

  26. anniegetyerfun

    Maybe they're not so much conservative as just really pissy people, like me, who hate any changes to their daily routines/traffic routes.

  27. Biff

    Those same douchebags probably tripped over their own (or each other's) dicks trying to get $arah to speak on their campus 4 years ago.

    1. Blueb4sinrise

      Political Science Professor Donald Downs can be our new way around certain combinations of letters that aren't allowed.

    1. tessiee

      I would like the word "miffed" somewhat better if it didn't invariably remind me of Martha Stewart.

  28. SayItWithWookies

    That's funny — all my history and civics teachers/professors would have advised me to take advantage of a visit from any public official and take an interest in what they had to say regardless of their ideology. But then that's the kind of insidious liberal indoctrination they're so good at.

    1. GeorgiaBurning

      When these multiracial types start getting uppity and Presidential, then the professors notice how it interferes with parking. OTOH, if he played for the Packers it would be entirely different.

  29. OneDollarJuana

    I don't remember these folks complaining about "free speech zones" or having thugs drag people out of Bush political rallies.

  30. Beowoof

    These fuckers work for a publicly funded college and appear to be too stupid to understand that their continued employment is likely dependent upon a Democratic administration. Sigh, I guess it would be my advice that get their resumes over to University of Phoenix. The are going to need lots of adjuncts to pick up the slack.

  31. Native_of_SL_UT

    Kind of off topic, but my wife, who stocks magazines for Costco just told me they had to toss the latest Rolling Stones issue because they have the famous full frontal nude pictures from John and Yoko's "Two Virgins" cover in the magazine.
    We come a long way since 1969.

  32. WhatTheHeck

    The President responded with “Ah, shaddup! Call me when you have no class.”
    And having no class and no clue, they placed a call to the President.

  33. Negropolis

    Mon Dieu! You mean a political campaign is trying to build a mailing list?! Those monsters! Where is my fainting couch, my smelling salts?

    These crybabies need to put on their adult pants and honey badger up, already.

    1. bobbert

      There's some seriously wrong stuff in those tables. Obama's overall favorability number is shown as 56% among all registered voters both pre- and post-debate. For Dems, it is 90% both pre and post. For R's, it actually went up from 17% to 19%, and for Indys it went up from 46% to 54%.

      I don't need to do advanced statistics to know that not all of these things can be true at the same time.

      1. unclejeems

        Meh. Probably had something to do with sample size. This is the second poll I've seen where the results show no change in who's gonna vote for whom pre- and post-debate. So the end result is a big yawn. Another pseudo-event.

    1. unclejeems

      You mean, where they can say nearly anything they want under the tenure umbrella? Because their institution holds that granting tenure works toward the greater good of a democratic community? And regards free speech and the right to assemble, not to mention the right to petition the government for redress of grievances–as sacrosanct?

      No real conservative would work for an outfit like that.

  34. Stevola

    They asked for personal information? Heavens, next they'll make attendees sign a loyalty oath. No campaign has ever done that.

  35. tessiee

    Give that gal one of those fancy-schmancy manicures where each nail is a teensy little sunset with a palm tree on it, and she'd be a dead ringer for my Uncle Garlic's wife…
    or Petunia from Futurama, same difference.

  36. tessiee

    "concerns about President Barack Obama’s planned Thursday campaign rally, saying students who want to attend are unfairly being required to supply a phone number and email address to the campaign, even having to click “I’m In” to get a free ticket"

    *clutches pearls*
    You mean, they had to actually CLICK A MOUSE to get a free ticket to go see the President???
    What kind of a God would allow such a thing to happen?

  37. bobbert

    I think they missed a bet by not having a really big Wisconsin state flag. (Hint: state motto is "Forward").

  38. C_R_Eature

    AHHHHHHH Goddammit Ann Coulter's on CSPAN's Washington Journal now fuck fuck fuck no no no no abort abort throw furniture SMASH TELEVISION ARRRRHHHHGGG

  39. SpiderCrab

    Does the photo accompanying this report indicate that Althouse has a tattoo between her breasts, or is that blue blotch her pathetic attempt to gussy up all the hate she exudes?

  40. Jus_Wonderin

    “This is what pushed me into the seriously annoyed category,” Mayer wrote.

    I bet it doesn't usually take something this annoying for Mayer to be seriously annoyed. Whiner!

  41. Negropolis

    114,000 jobs for September. Another "meh" month, but it's above 100,000 and everyone has already decided on the economy, so, yeah…meh. Rate drops under 8% (7.8%).

    EDIT: More news. It seems that participation actually increased so the rate didn't go down because more people dropped out. The previous two months' job numbers are also revised up.

    This is better news than expected.

  42. Negropolis

    Joe Scarborough is losing his shit that the jobs numbers aren't as terrible as he thought they should be. lol His anger…it sustains me. He keeps repeating "I don't understand this. I don't understand."

    1. glamourdammerung

      One has to love how the "loyal" opposition gets so upset whenever anything positive happens in this country.

    2. Theywontlisten

      I saw his pissie ass this morning it's like he was praying for bad news and wanted to say…'how could this be happening? he's a n___er. Is it some kind of black magic? why do things work out so well for that n____er?"

  43. Jerri

    Uh huh. Say, you know what I found "seriously annoying" about that particular public square when I lived there? The conservative anti-abortion preacher dude who would stand in front of the humanities building from time to time and call us all heathen sluts and wave fetus gore pictures at us.

    Oh, and Badger game days. Those were seeeeeeeeriously fucking irritating.

    And the fucking drum circles. Always the goddamned drum circles in that town.

    I'd much rather be seriously annoyed by a smart and sexy president coming to town to like, I don't know, engage our young people and get them excited about politics, social issues, and so on. But then I'm just a regular person, not a fancy professor who has decided to make a living by educating young people about the world they live in, so what the fuck do I know.

  44. terrystop

    You might as well ignore Althouse. As someone who's had the great misfortune of having her as a professor, she's a loon with no capability of teaching. She's an excellent whiner and does a great job of babbling like a demented schizophrenic, but as for teaching? Ha! Most law students wonder how the hell she got tenure.

    The rally was a lot of fun, and went off without much of a hitch. Classes were moved with ease and alternate spaces provided. Althouse, though? How unfortunate she's still teaching at UW. Sigh.

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