RUMBLE IN SCONNIE NATION!  9:00 pm September 28, 2012

Midwest Madness: Your Wisconsin Senate Debate Liveblog!

by Doktor Zoom

Doesn't this blog need more ponies?Welcome to all of the Wonkers with nothing else to do on a Friday night! Whether you’re here because you have small children, or because you are a shut-in, or because you haven’t yet figured out how to reprogram your court-ordered ankle bracelet, we bid you welcome! Tonight’s debate features a titanic political standoff between two candidates that we know virtual NOTHING about, but thankfully, that is no longer a deterrent to being a pundit or even a candidate in our modern Republic! It’s like some wonderful fantasy story, come to life!

The candidates are Republican Tommy Thomson, a former 4-term Wisconsin Governor, Secretary of Health and Human Services, and member of the British New Wave pop group “The Thompson Twins” (Or he may have been a detective with a funny mustache, we forget), and Democrat Tammy Baldwin, the current U.S. Representative for Wisconsin’s 2nd district, who has not been in a pop band OR a comic book, but could conceivably have been related to the Baldwin brothers of acting fame. She is also, according to our exhaustive, in-depth research, the first openly gay non-incumbent elected to the House of Representatives. [citation needed]

This debate may actually make a big difference to control of the Senate, since the two candidates are now tied in most polls, after Thompson had led for most of the year. You can watch this thing on C-SPAN at this linky here.

9:01 This theme music sounds a little like Dallas, don’t you think? Bet it’s public domain.

9:03 We are now in the part of the program where local sponsors of the debates talk about the great pageant of democracy. Feel free to throw peanuts at them.

9:05 Baldwin opening statement. I’m a reformer, my opponent has worked as a lobbyist for the special interests that oppress you. Thompson opening statement: I was governor and did many things which made healthcare better for all. We must repeal Obamacare.

9:10 Tommy is a reg’lar guy. Tammy is a far-left liberal. We warn anyone making up a drinking game that a shot anytime Tommy says “most liberal” or “far left” is a ticket to the ER, even though this is a 1-hour debate.

9:15 Grover Norquist! Jimmy Warren Buffett! We are getting a lot of names dropped in this question!

9:17 There was a serious question about the deficit in there, we think. We were fiddling with our laptop and we missed it. And now the question is about taxes. Tammy just said “carried interest” and tried to link it to Mitt, but she could have driven the post home more. Tommy, on the other hand, is folksy and will cut taxes. It’s bullshit, but it might work.

9:23 Tommy Thompson wants to eliminate the filibuster. That’s quoteable. Oh, Tammy, you’re talking about your actual bipartisan accomplishments, but it’s a list… and the last bit about Congress not getting paid if they don’t pass a budget? Nice gimmick, only it’s gimmicky!

9:29 Obamacare! Badgercare! Medicare Part D (which wasn’t paid for). Socialized medicine! Was there an actual answer in there about whether Tommy would repeal the ACA or not? We think he’s against it, but we’re not sure. Tammy doesn’t want Tommy to rip up the ACA. She drafted the covered-until 26 thing, which seems good. Followup: Oh, OK, he actually does want to drop all of the ACA and then fix each part. At the state level. Where it … uh…won’t happen?

9:30 “Chronic illnesses was something I started when I was at HHS.” That can’t be right.

9:32 Thompson is snort-laughing at Tammy. That’s not what you call “good visuals,” America.

9:36 Cartoon bomb reference. And we must take this cartoon bomb very seriously, because a Very Bad Man might draw the world into WW III somehow….so…what? Ah, draw a red line. We do not blame either of the candidates for not saying exactly what they want to do, because yeesh, Iran.

9:40 A Demmycrat is against nation-building in Afghanistan. Tommy spoke personally to Colin Powell, and this somehow means “we” don’t have the will to win in Afghanistan. Both candidates want to get out? Go figure. Tommy held back from saying anything about getting stabbed in the back.

9:42 Tommy: There’s enough oil in the Canadian tar sands to meet all of US America’s needs. We must build the Keystone XL pipeline so all that oil can go to be refined in Houston. Where it will be put on tankers and exported.

9:45 We have potato chips, we just remembered. Jerbs are also good. Tommy keeps reminding us that he is not in Congress, but he is a reformer. “I do not criticize the other side. Barack Obama and my opponent want to increase food stamps and welfare.” Whoo-hoo! Daily Show, here we come!

9:49 Finally, an Asian Carp question!

9:51 “For once I’m not being blamed! Or President Bush! I am out of my mind!” Tommy Thompson needs to go to Remedial Zinger School.

9:55 Closing statements. Neither candidate has exacly set the airwaves on fire tonight. This has been like watching a minor league ball game, only there’s no Dizzy Lizzy Bat Race or t-shirt cannon. Thank god, there was beer.

Ah well, not every liveblog can be Bill Clinton being exciting about math. G’night!

 
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Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:02 pm

Glad I kept refreshing, excuse me while I get the remote!

Boojum September 28, 2012 at 10:10 pm

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Callyson September 28, 2012 at 10:15 pm

If you enter Amazon through Our Wonkette, our Editrix gets a cutIs that for *anything* we order from Amazon, or just the books advertised on Wonkette?I have it on good authority she will autograph them at Drinky Things.Oh, that's it…now I am really going to beg and plead for a post election victory party in Los Angeles. Seriously, Wonkette, I'll chip in for some beer if that helps…

Boojum September 28, 2012 at 10:19 pm

I believe it is for anything, but our Editrix could clarify.

Doktor Zoom September 28, 2012 at 10:19 pm

Anything you buy at Amazon thru that linky is revenue for Your Wonkette. I've got Rebecca looking at maybe linking through Powells Books in Portland, just so we can be true libtards about commerce; not sure whether it's as good a deal as filthy Jeff Bezos, though.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 10:30 pm

Thanks for the heads up, and I'll be sure to use the linky from now on!

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 12:04 am

Srsly? Anything? I need assurance of this, because Amazon is such an asshole.

BloviateMe September 30, 2012 at 1:30 am

You could spend DAYS at Powells…It's pretty amazing.

Doktor Zoom September 30, 2012 at 1:31 am

Lookie! Lookie! Powell's link is up there now, too!

GO BUY BOOKS!

LionHeartSoyDog September 29, 2012 at 1:01 am

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Can you suggest?.

Lascauxcaveman September 29, 2012 at 2:00 am

Pheedo (whoever that is) is a dick.

Just don't click on the NAMBLA ads. That can come to no good.

trampndirtdown September 28, 2012 at 10:40 pm

Consider it done.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:03 pm

these are some sexy men onscreen right now

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:03 pm

Am I the only one who is charmed by the Badger state accent?

fuflans September 28, 2012 at 9:41 pm

pretty much, yeah.

shelwood46 September 28, 2012 at 9:53 pm

Ja der hey.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 10:41 pm

[from Minnesota] Uff da!

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 1:01 am

Even after forty years, if I visit Wisconsin, it only takes about a day before I stop noticing the pseudo-Canuck accent and start speaking it. It's actually pretty close to network standard, but with a slight nod to "aboot".

Of course, I think it's charming — it's what I spoke for my first 21 years.

horsedreamer_1 September 30, 2012 at 8:54 pm

Knew a gal from South Dakota in undergrad who claimed SOUTHDAK is the affectless network standard.

Sadly, too, I was dumb & never got to hear her unaffectedly recite pillow talk after a nite of lovemaking.

phillipmarlowe2terry September 29, 2012 at 10:45 pm

Missed the badger state.
When's the beaver state debate?

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:03 pm

also, thank you doktorb.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:04 pm

Yeah, what you said! Thanks Dok!

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:05 pm

Tammy!

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:06 pm

woot!

Barrelhse September 28, 2012 at 10:41 pm

Tammeh!

James Michael Curley September 28, 2012 at 9:05 pm

Mad Max will gladly instruct you on how to remove your Court Ordered Ankle Bracelet.

docterry6973 September 29, 2012 at 8:44 am

My cat wears mine like a collar.

AlterNewt September 28, 2012 at 9:05 pm

This feels kind of old timey, like the 90s

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:05 pm

What's changed hasn't been our work ethic, but the rules

Tell 'em, Tammy!

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:06 pm

My opponent has taken on powerful special interests as clients

Oh yeah! Glad she is as unladylike as McCaskill!

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:07 pm

Tommy is wearing one of the fugliest ties I have ever seen–is that supposed to be confetti?

James Michael Curley September 28, 2012 at 9:44 pm

Dried vomit.

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 1:04 am

Just what we need — another senatorial frat boy.

YasserArraFeck September 29, 2012 at 1:20 pm

At least he spared us the butt-chugging tube

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:07 pm

he named his daughter tommy? egotistical much?

Lascauxcaveman September 29, 2012 at 2:02 am

Heh. The kid has it easy. My kid's friends keep asking her why she was named "Gustavus Oswaldo".

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:08 pm

Well, Tommy's opener was rather uninspired.

sudsmckenzie September 28, 2012 at 9:09 pm

gawd, I have no life. I'm watching this on local TeeVee wondering if Tammy can make it through a complete sentence, like I do with All Sharpton or Andrea Mitchelle.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:09 pm

Jesus, compared to the Mass Senate debate, everyone here (even Tommy) is awfully polite.

HouseOfTheBlueLights September 29, 2012 at 11:51 am

Wisconsin is the most polite place you will ever go to. This is why the sight of Wisconsinites protesting was so riveting. These are people who will note that you are heading for a door that they are near, and will stop and wait for you to get there so they can hold it open for you.

Charlie_Foxtrot September 29, 2012 at 7:27 pm

I hope the presidential debate isn't polite. Huffpost says Romney is practicing "zingers" which I'm expecting will come off like him tasing himself.

I'm looking forward to the first thing President Obama says to Mitt.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:09 pm

"She doesn't have a record to run on"

Wait, didn't Tommy base his opening statement on how liberal her record is?

I take back what I said about this asshole being polite…

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:10 pm

Nice way to connect the "my opponent is a liberal" crap from Tommy to the true cause of the economic mess we have. Go Tammy!

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:12 pm

nerts are we the only ones here? I officially follow good Callyson. Forward!

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:27 pm

Hey there–I'll catch up on all the comments after the debate, but I follow you back!

trampndirtdown September 28, 2012 at 9:53 pm

Here for you brudder, i was busy donating to Tammy's campaign.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:55 pm

a thousand woots! for you.

JohnnyQuick September 28, 2012 at 9:12 pm

Shlommy Shlompson is one of the drunkiest looking politicians ever. Seems like a good choice for the head of the Health department, is what DWI Bush thought.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:13 pm

did he say a "patzer and a spender"?

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:13 pm

"We're headed for a recession unless we do something"

I suggest you tell this to the Party of No in Congress, Governor…

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:15 pm

"Yes we can…but we gotta do what I want to do"

Great, that's all we need–yet another Reep who wants it his way or the highway…

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:15 pm

he "created" jobs in the 90s, ftr.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:15 pm

"Nobody in Washington ever gets rid of anything"

And defense contractors love DC for that reason…

sudsmckenzie September 28, 2012 at 9:16 pm

Come on Tammy, Complete Sentences, you can do this!

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:18 pm

she's not the best debater is she?

sudsmckenzie September 28, 2012 at 9:20 pm

she's not the best word, … um spechifier.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:16 pm

OH YEAH! That boneheaded thing about not being able to negotiate with drug companies for Medicare! Keep hammering the Reeps on that point, Tammy…

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:16 pm

Is that fucker laughing at her?

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:17 pm

And then I think he made an audible sigh…didn't he learn from the Bush Gore debates?

I hope not…

Go Tammy!

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 1:06 am

Bush Gore? Did somebody put something in a lock box?

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:18 pm

Oh yeah, carried interest…keep reminding swing state Wisconsin voters of that tax loophole, Tammy…don't forget to use Mittens as an example…

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:19 pm

oh "He" built Wisconsin? Fuck you Tommy.

Shartiblartfat September 29, 2012 at 11:10 am

Actually, many Wisconsinites referred to Tommy Thompson as Tommy "Pave The State!" Thompson. The concrete lobby loved him.

sudsmckenzie September 28, 2012 at 9:19 pm

Tammy, cant you say you 1/1000th Indian or something, this is boring.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:20 pm

someone throw poo!

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:20 pm

This guy wants to go after Tammy for criticizing someone who wasn't in Congress for the economic woes? How about he doesn't blame Tammy for the fuckuppery that happened as a result of the policies of W and the GOP-held Congress?

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:21 pm

Do away with the 60% requirement? Yeah, Tommy's going to hear from the Reeps on that one…

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:22 pm

I can't believe I agree with him on something.

sudsmckenzie September 28, 2012 at 9:22 pm

I'm starting to think neither of these two 'killed' an intern in 1996

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:24 pm

They're acting as if they've never killed a mosquito. Tommy's killed a few beers in his day.

sudsmckenzie September 28, 2012 at 9:41 pm

… and a few spray tan cans

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:22 pm

Tammy has a nice comeback on the bipartisan thing…and a subtle way to bring up health care and women's issues with the breast care thing.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:23 pm

Breast care is important.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:24 pm

Aw, she was raised by her grandparents? I was raised by my grandma for part of my childhood, and I still remember how panicked she would get if she had to go to the Social Security office for any reason. Fuckers who want to cut it…never mind, Rules for Radicals won't let me say what I'd like to do to them. (Hint–it isn't with votes…)

Chow Yun Flat September 28, 2012 at 9:25 pm

Thompson: "I want you to be able to make sure you have social security." So I support Romney/Ryan that will rip it to shreds.

Chow Yun Flat September 28, 2012 at 9:26 pm

Seniors get drugs!!

OK.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:26 pm

Speaking of Obamacare, WaPo had a good column on how people are warming up to it, or at least are not as hostile to it as they initially were after the Reeps' scare tactics…

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 1:09 am

The minute they realized they could get something out of it. I was talking to an Rmoney voter the other day who was complaining about having to cover her mother's donut hole and I screamed Affordable Care Act and told her about the donut hole getting less holey. All of a sudden, Obama got a little whiter.

viennawoods13 September 29, 2012 at 10:02 am

Those checks that are starting to arrive from the insurance companies must be changing some minds.

Chet Kincaid_ September 29, 2012 at 11:41 am

"All of a sudden, Obama got a little whiter." Oh, the mischief one could make with that meme!

horsedreamer_1 September 30, 2012 at 8:56 pm

Obama's 2nd term will be known in the textbooks as HIStory, Pt. 3.

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 1:56 am

Well fuck. If we can just keep it alive until 2014, it will be part of the fucking infrastructure.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:27 pm

Oh FFS, Tommy, malpractice insurance is a *small* part of the increase in health care costs.

Chow Yun Flat September 28, 2012 at 9:27 pm

Buy insurance over the internet!! Hang the plantiff's lawyers!! Stop Obamacare. Vote fo' me.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:27 pm

yes explain the Obamacare for the people Tammy!

BlueStateLibel September 28, 2012 at 9:28 pm

Nothing beats flattering your readers, Doctor. And can someone show me how to get this damn thing off my ankle?

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:28 pm

2/3 of young adults covered by their parents' healthcare, rather than taking their chances and praying nothing happens to them.

She built that!

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:29 pm

Oh FFS, the Federal government is not going to determine your doctor under Obamacare. That myth was disproved long ago, asshole.

Good for Tammy for pointing that out!

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:30 pm

Boo yeah! Back to the sweetheart drug deal–and what an asshole Tommy is for going along with it…

Chow Yun Flat September 28, 2012 at 9:31 pm

Sweetheart deal that Tommy Thompson cut with the drug companies when he was head of HEW.

Baldwin shoots and scores.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:31 pm

I hope Wisconsin has a lot of seniors…

…oh crap, is Wisconsin one of those fucking voter ID states?

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:36 pm

as of today, no. the case is in the courts and hopefully will not be suddenly implemented before Nov 6.

MilwaukeeKent September 29, 2012 at 1:50 am

The state Supreme Court sent it back to the lower courts, which should table it at least until after the election. Also, that Nathan Sproul/Strategic Whatever-he's-calling-it-this-week outfit was apparently lined up here but never engaged, so Wisconsin might have an honest election after all.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 10:39 pm

update! according to Dane101 blog, voter ID will not be required for the Nov 6 election. woot! and woot again!

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:32 pm

he's fucking laughing again. War on women anyone?

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:33 pm

He's been doing that all night. Asshole.

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 1:11 am

Yes, I noticed disdain is working really well for that Rmoney guy.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:33 pm

Oooh, did Tommy just come out for the Ryan medicare plan? The one that is unpopular in the polls? Hee hee hee…

Chow Yun Flat September 28, 2012 at 9:33 pm

Thompson sez: I'm in the private sector–or maybe I'm the private sector.

Makes sense–he is fat enough to be a sector all by himself.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:35 pm

Thompson: "I'm a dinner John"

Mumbletypeg September 28, 2012 at 9:36 pm

I wondered if I heard that wrong, glad it wasn't just me!

Barrelhse September 29, 2012 at 8:01 pm

They named him Tommy Thompson to help him remember his name and he still gets it wrong. What a dolt.

Chow Yun Flat September 28, 2012 at 9:35 pm

Thompson wants to be the Senator from Netanyahu.

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 1:12 am

Don't they all.

sudsmckenzie September 28, 2012 at 9:36 pm

breath Tammy, complete sentences, complete sentences, breath ..

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 1:13 am

Hey, Suds, you guys got the NFL refs back. Get this woman a damn coach!

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:36 pm

We have to stand united on this area of foreign policy

Her digs at Mittens and Co are good, but I fear she is a little too subtle.

Then again, this is the polite Midwest we're talking about, so maybe she's hitting just hard enough…

Mumbletypeg September 28, 2012 at 9:37 pm

"Badger care," Dok? I thought Honey Badger didn't give a shit! oh, ok…

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:39 pm

Really, Tommy? You want to talk about having a plan before going to war? Did you ever run that idea by W when he was in office and got us into an unnecessary war in Iran, and ensured that Afghanistan would be left over for the next president by doing so?

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:39 pm

nation build at home. thank you Tammy

Mumbletypeg September 28, 2012 at 9:40 pm

As wonkette has noted before, Thompson does have a thing for General Colin! So that much has not changed.

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 1:15 am

He's a blah who's just the right height.

Sharkey September 28, 2012 at 9:40 pm

Let's start fracking sideways with a chainsaw!

-Tommy

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:40 pm

The caribou are smart enough to walk around

Yeah, that works until an oil-pipe bursts, asshole…

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:41 pm

please mention the pipeline won't give the US oil. Dammit.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:42 pm

Tell 'em Tammy–ANWAR = 6 months supply? Fuck that.

Oh, and good reminder that it would create zero jobs in Wisconsin…

HouseOfTheBlueLights September 29, 2012 at 11:57 am

What drives me crazy is that no one ever brings up that the reason ANWR hasn't happened is because it's not cost effective to the oil companies– their investment isn't worth the return they'll get.

Sharkey September 28, 2012 at 9:42 pm

Oh, so you have a home-growing operation, Tammy?

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:43 pm

Public/private sector job creation? Yeah, if it were not for all the government job cuts, unemployment would be at least one percentage point lower…

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:44 pm

I'm not in Congress

Tommy, that's only because you lost that election:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Thompson

Asshole.

Mumbletypeg September 28, 2012 at 9:44 pm

You mean they wanna "increase unemployment relief," Tommy. No one wants to "increase unemployment."

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:45 pm

Oh FFS, this abortion question is R – worded. Federal funds are *not* used for abortions, you idiot journalist!

fuflans September 28, 2012 at 9:46 pm

so from down here in IL i remember tommy thompson for

1. being fat (WI!)
2. being the architect of welfare reform on the state level (you know, how they always bang on about the states being the laboratories of blah blah blah…)
3. being way old.

dude should not be in the senate is all.

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 12:13 am

HEY!!
Regarding (1) and (3)
well, yeah, I shouldn't run for Senate.

Regarding (2), fuck the former governor of my native state with a chainsaw of votes.

sudsmckenzie September 28, 2012 at 9:47 pm

… and here comes the 'Asian carpet muncher' point of the debate.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 10:22 pm

I'm adding the phrase "Asian carpet muncher" to my eHarmony profile. [that's racist!]

Sharkey September 28, 2012 at 9:48 pm

Kill the asian carp, with fire!

And feed them to me.

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 12:14 am

Actually, kill the Asian carp with almost anything.

fuflans September 28, 2012 at 9:49 pm

jesus christ somebody ELSE looking at fucking canada.

this is a little unseemly people. stop watching.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:49 pm

Tommy Thompson is a whiny fat bish.

Mumbletypeg September 28, 2012 at 9:49 pm

Tommy bristles. He is trying to get the upper hand talking tough on carp.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:50 pm

Oh FOR FUCK'S SAKE, Tommy, give it a rest with the "I'm surprised, this is the first time I haven't been attacked." It isn't all about you, asshole.

Doktor Zoom September 28, 2012 at 10:22 pm

That kinda came out of freakin' NOWHERE, didn't it? Clearly a coached / rehearsed zinger, only not zingy, and deployed with no appropriate context because he realized the clock was running down.

cheetojeebus September 28, 2012 at 9:50 pm

Geeze, Senor Wences is not lookin too good.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:50 pm

I think Tommy is trying to look tough, but he just comes off as an asshole and a bully…

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 1:17 am

Not smart enough to take a page from Handsome Joe's playbook.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:51 pm

"Well, that's not fair"

Tommy, your persecution complex is getting old…

sudsmckenzie September 28, 2012 at 9:51 pm

Calm down Tommy, she's being very "Lady like'.

Come here a minute September 28, 2012 at 9:52 pm

Instead of a dumb pipeline, they should pump all the water out of Lake Superior and store all the tar sand oil there. It's good for Wisconsin!

Biff September 29, 2012 at 2:59 pm

Bonus: dead Asian carp!

horsedreamer_1 September 30, 2012 at 8:57 pm

Edmund Fitzgerald Libel Desecration!

sudsmckenzie September 28, 2012 at 9:52 pm

Tammy, remember Complete Sentences!

Mumbletypeg September 28, 2012 at 9:52 pm

ooh hoo — playin the Norquist card!

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:52 pm

He signed a pledge to Grover Norquist, not to the people of Wisconsin

Nice, Tammy!

Monsieur_Grumpe September 28, 2012 at 9:53 pm

Has anyone asked the most important question?
What is your favorite bratwurst?
The only correct answer is Carl's.

shelwood46 September 28, 2012 at 10:07 pm

When I moved from Green Bay to New Jersey in 1986, I was dismayed to find that the only "brats" available here were these grotesque pre-cooked Hilshire Farms abominations. They were white. For many years, every time I visited home I would return with a cooler packed with brats (and Merkts). Finally, about 8 years ago, they started selling Johnsonville brats here. I know the owner of that company is a right wing tool, but the brats are decent. At first they were only sold in the summer, but now I can get them year-round to parboil in beer then grill.

I still bring back coolers full of Merkts.

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 12:16 am

I hate to tell you this, because they are decent brats, but Johnsonville is a Koch company.

Geminisunmars September 29, 2012 at 3:24 pm

I can't quite get my mouth around all the puns to be made in your last comment.

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 12:15 am

Nope. Whatever name the Brathaus is using these days.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 9:53 pm

This is Wisconsin. Everyone at this debate–the candidates, the moderators, the crew–is a little drunk. Everyone watching in Wisconsin is wasted. [raises bottle]… hic!

Mumbletypeg September 28, 2012 at 9:56 pm

I think I see what you mean!

Sharkey September 28, 2012 at 9:58 pm

Wicsonsin! Home of teh … beer!

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 12:17 am

Mmm, also, brandy.

sudsmckenzie September 28, 2012 at 9:59 pm

yeah, who, wait, what you lookin at.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 10:04 pm

you sumbish you fuckn… i love you man!

Doktor Zoom September 28, 2012 at 10:13 pm

(raises beer)

Monsieur_Grumpe September 28, 2012 at 9:54 pm

I used to have some respect for Tommy.

Mumbletypeg September 28, 2012 at 9:57 pm

Me too — but I can't remember why?

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 12:19 am

As far as I can recall, I always regarded him as a piece of shit. But, I'll admit, I haven't lived in WI since 1969, so I wasn't always paying close attention.

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:55 pm

Buffet rule! Go Tammy!

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:55 pm

And oh yeah…good for Tammy for pointing out that Tommy would cut taxes for the rich and *raise* them for the middle class…

Radiotherapy September 28, 2012 at 9:56 pm

♫ ♬ Oh Oh
Hold me now. Oh
Warm my heart

Stay with me
Let lovin' start
Let lovin' start.
You say I'm a dreamer
We're two of a kind ♫ ♬

Mumbletypeg September 28, 2012 at 10:01 pm

JFruh beat you to it.
By about five years~

Radiotherapy September 28, 2012 at 10:40 pm

NO COMMENT

CapnFatback September 28, 2012 at 11:50 pm

Hmmm. Interesting choice. I would have gone with "Lies."

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:57 pm

Doktor, thanks for setting this up. Sorry there was not a bigger crowd, but I appreciated the opportunity to snark.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 10:00 pm

yes thank you Doktorb and thank you Callyson and Suds and thank you Trampn.

Doktor Zoom September 28, 2012 at 10:20 pm

It was fun, small room though it was. Don't forget to tip the veal and try your waitress.

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 12:19 am

Just the tip?

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 1:32 am

Thanks from Tucson, too, Dok. I tuned in late, but read every word.

mille derps September 29, 2012 at 3:02 am

Also late. Also appreciative.

miss_grundy September 28, 2012 at 9:58 pm

So? Did Tammy win????????

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 9:59 pm

OK, I'm jumping to the beginning to check out what everyone else said, but before I do so…

Tell us, Wikipedia, what fun facts do you have about Tommy Thompson?

After leaving office, Thompson promoted changes to Medicare that some complained would benefit companies Thompson has a financial stake in (including Centene and the Deloitte Center for Health Solutions).
Additionally, while in office, Thompson was involved in a dispute over whether the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services had to share cost estimates to Congress for legislation that would create a prescription drug benefit. Critics accused HHS of downplaying the true cost of the law by $150 billion. CMS Administrator Tom Scully threatened to fire the actuary if he revealed to Congress his estimate. Investigators determined that the data was improperly hidden from Congress, but did not conclude whether laws had been broken.

Another fiscally conservative Republican at work…

Lots more on Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Thompson

Radiotherapy September 28, 2012 at 9:59 pm

I heard that Remedial Zinger School is a for-profit.

sudsmckenzie September 28, 2012 at 10:00 pm

Its even more exciting here in Winter!, thanks doc

fuflans September 28, 2012 at 10:02 pm

thanks doc!

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 10:03 pm

a shot anytime Tommy says “most liberal” or “far left” is a ticket to the ER

Mitt Romney approves this message.

Doktor Zoom September 28, 2012 at 10:04 pm

Who knew. A "Wisconsin Senatorial Debate" on a Friday night was exactly as exciting as it sounded!

savethispatient September 28, 2012 at 10:24 pm

Presumably the fringe candidate who is anti-cheese and pro-scab NFL referees was not invited to the debate?

Doktor Zoom September 28, 2012 at 10:40 pm

Oh, yeah, they HATE that guy.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 10:28 pm

the next one will be during the Packers game.

Sharkey September 28, 2012 at 10:52 pm

You're the one who brought up the ankle bracelet.

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 12:20 am

Just think what an Idaho Senatorial Debate would be like.

Doktor Zoom September 29, 2012 at 1:46 am

I can't afford that much booze.

fuflans September 28, 2012 at 10:05 pm

one final note: i don't think i'd want care from a badger.

but that might be just me.

shelwood46 September 28, 2012 at 10:21 pm

Aw, not even Dr. Eric Heiden?

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 12:21 am

Did he return to Wisconsin after Stanford. If so, good for him.

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 10:25 pm

don't be racist! it depends on the badger…

littlebigdaddy September 28, 2012 at 10:26 pm

If you had ball cancer, it might be your best bet.

johnnyzhivago September 28, 2012 at 10:15 pm

Grover Norquist??? Let's leave Sesame Street out of this!

littlebigdaddy September 29, 2012 at 12:36 am

Tickle me Grover!

littlebigdaddy September 28, 2012 at 10:25 pm

How has this not devolved into a discussion of the Packers-Seahawks game?

Callyson September 28, 2012 at 11:11 pm

There's no debate on that issue: that call sucked.

littlebigdaddy September 28, 2012 at 11:42 pm

Yeah but I'm sure there's lots of nuance on exactly HOW it sucked. And I have never had a conversation with a Wisconsinite that lasted more than 5 minutes that did not touch on football.

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 1:22 am

I mentioned the NFL refs above, but I got here late. I'm from Pittsburgh where we're almost as obsessed as Packer fans. So … that's my excuse.

Callyson September 29, 2012 at 1:32 am

Here we go Steelers!

(Yeah yeah I know I know…well, so we're off to a rough start…)

Chet Kincaid_ September 29, 2012 at 11:45 am

I'm originally from Cleveland, but left before I got into football, so I'm more tuned in to Packers-Bears. But it must suck for my relatives in Cleveland, to have such hatred for the Steelers while being so irrelevant to the Steelers, since Steelers/Former Browns is The Rivalry in that division now.

Actually, the AFC North has as much intrigue and bed-hopping recrimination as a Fleetwood Mac album from the '70s, considering that 3 of the 4 teams stem from one long narrative of rejection, jealousy and unrequited ego (I'm looking at you, Paul Brown and Art Modell!).

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 12:25 am

Genetic Packer fan here:

Too late. On to next week.

Every team has at least one blatant theft in its history. Nobody quite forgets, but it is just a fucking game, after all.

shelwood46 September 29, 2012 at 12:40 am

Have you ever tried to explain to someone outside of Wisco about being a Packer fan by birthright? It's rough. They definitely look at you funny when you talk about how your parents first knew you were gifted because you could pick out Bart Starr at 2, by kissing the tv screen, and how the first number you knew was, in fact, 15.

You know, I wonder if part of the reason Tammy is doing okay in WI is because it would never occur to Wisconsinite that it was weird for a little girl to go as a linebacker for Halloween. As long as it was a Packer. (Badger might also be acceptable.)

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 1:12 am

"Have you ever tried to explain to someone outside of Wisco about being a Packer fan by birthright?"

All the time, but since I've lived in NorCal for 40 years, most people understand fairly quickly. And I have to admit there has been some reverse flow. I'm prepared to concede that both 15 and 16 are acceptable numbers for QBs. (I remain hopeful about 12. 4 is, like, a personal weakness).

Did she really dress as an LB? Good for her. I hope it was 66.

shelwood46 September 29, 2012 at 1:23 am

I don't know about Tammy, but I do know that most of the kids, boys and girls, went as Packers for Halloween for all of the late '60s.

Also, I was highly amused in the '90s when my kinda racist cousin was incredibly pleased that her son's best friend was black, "because it's just like Brett and Reggie!"

natl_indecency_cmdr September 28, 2012 at 10:34 pm

Not to pretend that I'm sober or anything, but this race may or may not decide control of the US Senate. If you love America, give $$$ to Tammy Baldwin's campaign. She may not have impressed many tonight but she is a noted Lesbian running against a known drunk in Wisconsin. She needs your help.

sloppy hugs and kisses,
your National Indecency Commander.

trampndirtdown September 28, 2012 at 10:43 pm

Don't forget Rob Zerban while you're in the donating mood. https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/mfa?re

Barrelhse September 28, 2012 at 10:58 pm

I'm with Tammy. I'd much rather lick than drink.

Sharkey September 28, 2012 at 10:37 pm

I liked the abortion part. They really are fun!

Negropolis September 28, 2012 at 10:54 pm

I'm so sorry I missed this…zzzzz…

I do hope Baldwin wins, but wake me up when there is an Allen-Kaine debate. Now that's going to be entertaining.

And, as a Michigander, on the issue of the Asian Carp, I say to Illinois: "Build the danged (underwater electrified) fence!" Yes, another one.

Negropolis September 28, 2012 at 10:59 pm

BTW, doesn't Tommy seem like the grumpiest man you've ever known? He has not aged well. He looks like a cartoon figurine, like a bastardized Hummel, like some kind of damaged lawn gnome.

Negropolis September 28, 2012 at 11:16 pm

OT: Watching Charlie Rose and he's on with Norah O'Donnell and Bill Clinton, and Clinton is talking about the protest in the Middle East and North Africa and is just so totally unpoint and hopeful that he sent my spirit soaring. God, this man has still got it. I was practically yelling at the television, but in a good way.

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 1:45 am

Two things about Bubba are (1) he is one of the few people who I will immediately agree are smarter than I am; and (2) he still cares enough about shit to pay attention.

We know from the replacement of Glass-Steagal that his judgment isn't perfect, but I would still be inclined to trust him over any other political figure of roughly similar stature.

Sorry, Prommie.

Radiotherapy September 29, 2012 at 10:48 am

Glass-Steagal was a big fucking deal, but he has admitted now that it was a huge mistake. Zeus, how could he sign anything sponsored by Phil Gramm??!? He did have a problem keeping his snake in check, but you know the guy was important when even the wingtards show him respect now. No one ever talks about how well he handled the Balkans.
As Bismark said prophetically:
Some damned foolish thing in the Balkans
Or Churchill:
“The Balkans produce more history than they can consume”
That situation could have been several orders of magnitude worse if Clinton hadn't handled it with the right amount of force, diplomacy and humanitarianism.
And how can anyone deny the incredible budget surplus? A balanced budget was as inconceivable beforehand as it is now.
And the icing was that speech at the DNCC. I even watched the whole thing.
I know too that prommie despises him, but I look at him like an LBJ type character.

DemmeFatale September 30, 2012 at 11:27 am

Way back when he was president, I was getting a tour of the Supreme Court by their head historian who described himself as a "Goldwater Republican." Clinton was 2 hours late for a speech there, but by the end, this historian was part of a standing ovation, and some were standing on their chairs to applaud.
The Big Dog can sure give a speech!

Negropolis September 30, 2012 at 10:29 pm

Yeah, say what you will about him (and I have said both good and bad things about him) that man gives a helluva a speech and an even better lecture, and no one can ever take that away from him.

Jennyjen798 September 29, 2012 at 12:03 am

I've got no idea wtf is going on here but Attorney Rainbow Dash is my favorite meme picture!

emmelemm September 29, 2012 at 12:53 pm

Seconded.

imissopus September 29, 2012 at 1:02 am

OT but drunk, stoned, and watching The Meaning of Life is no way to go through life, son.

BaldarTFlagass September 29, 2012 at 10:28 am

It's worked for me, although I am more of a Life of Brian kinda guy.

Chet Kincaid_ September 29, 2012 at 11:17 am

I'm Team Baldar on that one.

imissopus September 29, 2012 at 3:04 pm

Normally I am too, but Netflix Streaming only has Mystery of Life.

shelwood46 September 30, 2012 at 4:37 pm

They do have Time Bandits (that semi-counts, right?)

Doktor Zoom September 29, 2012 at 5:53 pm

I go both ways. I'm bi-Pythonal

succalina September 29, 2012 at 1:29 am

Tammy Baldwin ROCKS. Give her money. The End.

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 1:54 am

Okay. You've persuaded me.

MilwaukeeKent September 29, 2012 at 3:09 am

Well, that was a taste of Wisconsin, with all the vigor, excitement and passion of a typical Lutheran church supper. I especially enjoyed the introductory comments by the Chairman of the Poultry Supplies Council.

James Michael Curley September 29, 2012 at 6:40 am

Mitt to have emotional breakdown if President?

"In an interview Thursday with television station KTVN, Mrs. Romney was asked what her biggest worry was should Mitt Romney be elected to serve in the White House.

"I think my biggest concern obviously would just be for his mental well-being," she said. "I have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy. … So for me I think it would just be the emotional part of it."

ThundercatHo September 29, 2012 at 10:35 am

I just watched that on Daily Kos, interesting article linking Mitt's lying and/or refuting statements just made with Alzheimers. Can you provide the link for others here?

James Michael Curley October 1, 2012 at 5:54 am

I’ll take a look when I get off work. Are you stating that the Daily Kos article linked Romney’s statements to Alzheimers or to Aspbergers as the later has been referenced occasionally going back about two years?

ThundercatHo October 1, 2012 at 8:27 am

I had not seen this reference before so it was a "Holy Cow!" moment for me. I'm really liking TDK more and more.

James Michael Curley October 1, 2012 at 9:29 am

Here’s the link to the Daily Kos article speculating Romney has Alzheimer Disease. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/01/1115628/… which, of course, is an opinion from a source not especially qualified to make medical assessments.Here’s a discussion about whether David Schuster committed a foul by suggesting Romney has Asperger Syndrome, and autism spectrum disorder, http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2012/08/0… which also is an opinion from a person not really medically qualified to make it. However with this I know a person who is diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome/ASD by professionals and Romney’s behavior at many times is similar. The most recent being the attempt to stand in front of a crowd and try to start a Romney, Romney, Romney chant only to find out no one was responding.

Chet Kincaid_ September 29, 2012 at 11:00 am

Haha, I was just about to put that here myself. Ann Romney, Great First Lady Candidate or The Greatest First Lady Candidate?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/28/mitt-rom

James Michael Curley September 30, 2012 at 7:53 am

Since Saturday was unusually busy I have not yet consulted the BoobTube or the NoobTube to see how this is playing. I may actually consult one or two of the Sunday Morning Funnies to find out.

Negropolis September 29, 2012 at 9:06 pm

Are they really going to take the George Romney route to disqualify themselves? The only difference is that what they did to George was unfair.

James Michael Curley September 30, 2012 at 8:25 am

The Republican Party has three wings which I call the Bush wing, the Nixon wing and the Goldwater wing and one can trace the roots of each all the way back to the Civil War to End of Reconstruction era. George Romney’s emergence as a candidate in 1968 was a disruption in the flow of power. Had George Romney gone on to be the party candidate and then elected, hundreds of high level, rich and mostly industrial behind the scenes players would have been on the self for four years. These are people who can pick up the phone and expect to get the President. They (the Republicans leading either of those wings) feel, I’m sure. Just act to exercise the orderly flow of power. Thus Romney in 1968 was a coincidental outlier that erupted on the national scene with the initial turning of American Politics from the Boss Tweed/James Michael Curley political structures to the utilization of media on the widest possible scope to, as Joe McGinniss documented in “The Selling of the President”, to create an up swell that leads people’s perception to a tipping point that some bozo has been around for a while and now it is his time to step to the forefront to assume the mantle of leadership he so rightly disserves.One can see it in Ann Romney’s comment (soon to be called an inelegantly stated truth). Mitt is the candidate who has all the talent now yet he has the same human failings we all have. When the subconscious political mind decides to anoint it seeks to express and inevitability. Realize that the way our political subconscious chooses leaders comes from the roots of an era when we believed it was in our best interests to give the Rail Barons, Coal Barons, Industrial Barons and Retail Barons even more government largess because, after they took all they could on the sly, they must be competent enough to deserve more. We are close to having a Macheath candidate whose transgressions, however severe, can be dismissed because he is our savior and destined leader.

Negropolis September 30, 2012 at 10:27 pm

Ummm…yeah.

schvitzatura October 1, 2012 at 5:05 am

You gentlemen who think you have a mission
To purge us of the seven deadly sins
Should first sort out the basic food (substitute 'healthcare', 'housing', where appropriate) position
Then start your preaching, that's where it begins

So first make sure that those (aka Mitt's '47%'), who now are starving
Get proper helpings, when we all start carving (or shooting, but only with votes)

James Michael Curley October 1, 2012 at 5:44 am

We are so going Godwin’s Law on this if I respond the way I want to.So I’ll leave it at Prescott Bush.

Dashboard Buddha September 30, 2012 at 10:46 am

Silly not-first lady…emotions don't hurt if you're incapable of feeling emotions.

schvitzatura October 1, 2012 at 5:20 am

Cognitive dissonance vis–à–vis LDS dogma/dictates of his Pioneer Ancestor/First Presidency/Apostle fellow travelers versus serving everyday Americans.

Same thing happened to Romney Senior. Mitt is likewise under the thrall of Deseret Inc.. The cracks have been showing and are increasingly widening.

Monsieur_Grumpe September 29, 2012 at 8:04 am

Mr. Bert,

Karl's Country Market
Pilgrim Road, Menomonee Falls, WI
(262) 252-3090

Karl's website appears to have beeen hijacked by some Chinese outfit.
Has Wisconsin been sold to the Chinese??????

Also here in Minneapolis is a great place that might ship.
http://www.kramarczuk.com/

James Michael Curley September 29, 2012 at 8:08 am

"went to get her one-year-old son out of the backseat of a rental car in Texas and found him playing with a 9MM semi-automatic pistol. She reported it to the Enterprises car rental service who allegedly found the same gun in another car on the lot! Bates is very glad her son is ok and says from now on, she won’t rely on service providers to check the car for any left behind items."

Texas, why are we not surprised? Probably had Eric Holder's fingerprints all over it.

docterry6973 September 29, 2012 at 8:54 am

And yes, this blog does need more ponies. Especially pretty ones that can be mine. Or perhaps 'ponies' does not mean what i think it means.

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 4:56 pm

That would be a safe bet around here.

DahBoner September 29, 2012 at 10:31 am

Remedial Zinger School

Take my uh…gay wife. Please.

//rimshot

Shartiblartfat September 29, 2012 at 11:07 am

I watched the debate. I am a Tammy Balwin supporter, and my wife and I plan to early-vote for her and ALL the other Democrats on October twenty-second!

Having said that, I thought Tommy looked old and tired. In my opinion, he seemed to be getting upset by the time the ordeal (for him) was over. Tammy always smiled, even when she was poking and jabbing the fat, old fool.

ttommyunger September 29, 2012 at 12:26 pm

Tammy Trumps Tommy, every day in every way. She may have lost her legs, but her balls are twice the size of Tommy's.

Doktor Zoom September 29, 2012 at 1:14 pm

Baldwin, not Duckworth. I kept making the same mistake, but this is the lesbian Tammy, not the disabled vet Tammy. And her opponent is merely 90% assholish,

ttommyunger September 29, 2012 at 1:19 pm

I never claimed to be smart, thankfully. Thanks for taking the time to enlighten me. Sent from the Field, not in Garrison.

Rotundo_ September 29, 2012 at 2:55 pm

It matters not, Tommy sold his balls during the Bush administration so he doesn't have any. Either Tammy would be a great representative, but Joe Walsh is the best asshole I have ever seen in a republican uniform (grey suit, red tie). Thompson isn't nearly as horrid a human being. He would have to really take a dive in the deep end of the asshole pool to get to Walsh levels.

ttommyunger September 29, 2012 at 3:00 pm

I am actually familiar with all four of these players, just had a brain fart with the Tammy mix-up. Thompson is merely your common run of the mill sellout, not at all in the Asshole of the Year Class with Walsh, you're correct.

Sharkey September 29, 2012 at 4:29 pm

Huh. Last night I assumed your gay comment was just a joke. Live and learn!

102415 September 29, 2012 at 1:43 pm

One more time for all you NYC Wonkers. Please come to my party this damp afternoon at a great Mexican restaurant and if you give me the Wonkette secret handshake I'll get you a drink. I'll be the only old bat there. It starts at 3 and ends at 6. Check my comment stream back about three spaces for the addy. Or answer here.

Geminisunmars September 29, 2012 at 3:17 pm

So jealous. Hope you all have a great time.

102415 September 30, 2012 at 12:51 am

Aww! I wish you could have come. The wee little margaritas were tasty. We did good. $10k. But no Spankything showed up although I invited it. Her husband must have insisted she paint the garage, mow the lawn and steal Obama signs from the neighbors being it was Saturday.

BloviateMe September 29, 2012 at 2:30 pm

This is a must read over on Kos. The bagel obsession had me belly laughing.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/29/1137654/

102415 September 29, 2012 at 9:12 pm

That was very relaxing! I encourage a lot of clicking.

James Michael Curley October 1, 2012 at 9:12 am

Loved it, especially the part about bagels as we went through a whole things weeks ago about how one has to go to Zabars to find a decent salt bagel with lox and a schmear.

Geminisunmars September 29, 2012 at 3:15 pm

I am the last person to give a rat's ass about fashion, but saw on Yahoo a pic of Egg and what she wore last night on the Jay Leno show. It was a multi-tiered leather skirt, matching top, with lacy come-fuck-me-pumps ala Madonna. Way to connect with the common-woman, Ann. I could practically hear her thinking "I'll show that bitch Michelle just who is a fashionista."

docterry6973 September 29, 2012 at 3:42 pm

I thought it was a poor choice, but in truth I think Ann has done very well in the fashion department as a rule. Politics not so much.

Geminisunmars September 29, 2012 at 3:54 pm

Maybe she's given up on hubby winning, so she might as well please herself and wear what she will.

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 5:07 pm

Do you think Ann is being dressed by a brave gay mole who is pretending to be a Republican but is secretly choosing outfits that will fail to show her at her best? Those shoes look like they came from the TV shopping channel's Hot In Hollywood program.

Leaving her brain out of it, I think Ann is a very attractive woman. She has that natural white bread beauty that used to be highly prized in this country. But she would look much more normal dressed like the country club member that she is, not in clothes that look like they came out of Heather Locklear's closet. Ralph Lauren has plenty of clothing lines that celebrate rich conservatives.

Geminisunmars September 29, 2012 at 5:51 pm

Brave gay mole must be the answer. Either that, or she believes that the 47% would relate better to her dressed like a "slut".

LagunaB September 29, 2012 at 6:09 pm

I am a fashion designer and women of America please stop wearing black top to bottom. Wearing black by your face makes you look dead and damn boring. On TV what should be worn is simple from your waist down and flattering top with your hair out of your face. Chocolate brown and navy or a good replacement for black.

Geminisunmars September 29, 2012 at 6:52 pm

Interesting. Did you see a picture of her? What did you think?

LagunaB September 29, 2012 at 7:35 pm

I saw her walking onto Leno's show. The outfit and shoes were too young for her. Black looks especially bad on blonds. Shit, she has the money. Wear couture or Armani. Prada is too hip for her. If I had her money, even when I was casually dressed, I would look fabulous.

Radiotherapy September 29, 2012 at 6:50 pm

You think she gives a flying fuzzfuck what "you" people think?

Geminisunmars September 29, 2012 at 7:14 pm

Of course not. I'm not here to worry about what she thinks about "us" people. But in so far that everything every politician (and spouse) says or does and how they look is scrutinized and snarked about, I'm curious about what the wonketteers think about her attire. Every word, every hair-do, every piece of clothing sends a message, whether conscious or unconscious. Do you have a problem with the topic?

BlueStateLibel September 29, 2012 at 7:38 pm

I think our boy Radio was just being sarcastic.

It's silly to judge politicians so much by their appearances. Half the Founding Fathers probably wouldn't have made it in the age of television – or the age of photography for that matter.

LagunaB September 29, 2012 at 7:38 pm

Michelle Obama looks great. The only change I would suggest is more drop waist styles. No big belts at waist. She has long legs and is short-waisted. She dresses her age and has fun with clothes.

Radiotherapy September 29, 2012 at 10:51 pm

C'mon G, doncha know I jest?
But if you you want to know what I think of the outfit, the first thought was Palin's stylist is back in the campaign.

Geminisunmars September 30, 2012 at 1:18 pm

Sorry, RadioT. Yesterday was thin skin day. Today I'm back to being zoftig.Yeah, Palinesque, only trashier.

ElPinche September 29, 2012 at 11:39 pm

I want to know why she wasn't wearing her Mormon garments? She's strutting around God's green Earth like Kolobian harlot .
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/Morm

Dashboard Buddha September 30, 2012 at 1:58 pm

“I think it's a weird question,” said Jared Johnsen, endowed LDS Church member. "

Wait, what?

horsedreamer_1 September 30, 2012 at 9:01 pm

He's the real life Orgazmo?

ElPinche September 29, 2012 at 11:51 pm

This is what happened:

Advisor: "FUCK !! WE'RE LOSING!!! THINK …. THINK…. *SNAP*…. ANN, DRESS LIKE PALIN ON LENO! WE NEED EVERY CONSERVATIVE LEANING DIPSHIT UNDECIDED'S HARDON !! "

Yeah all GOP advisors speak in all caps.

Radiotherapy September 30, 2012 at 12:14 am

Creeping backdoor Mormon Law!

Doktor Zoom September 29, 2012 at 6:03 pm

That was lovely. Thank jew very much!

Doktor Zoom September 29, 2012 at 8:14 pm

OT: Go read this: yet another sadly true media analysis masquerading as a humor piece, from The Onion of course.

AlterNewt September 29, 2012 at 8:50 pm

Serialized entropy.

Blueb4sinrise September 29, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 9:48 pm

Amazing here in cloudless Southern Arizona. Looking out my bedroom window the moon is hanging right over the Catalina Mountains like in a post card. We won't need lights on the patio tonight. Thanks for the link.

Charlie_Foxtrot September 30, 2012 at 1:21 am

Moon Uranus

Seriously?

Jeez, the astronomers must have been looking forward to this the same way morning-zoo radio sports guys look forward to USC-Oregon State games.

"Trojans haven't pounded on Beavers that hard since Kim Kardashian went clubbing with Kanye West."

Doktor Zoom September 30, 2012 at 1:25 am

Yahoo's headline was "How to See Uranus Through a Telescope"

Really

DustBowlBlues September 29, 2012 at 9:47 pm

It wasn't on my teevee and I was too busy getting stuff ready for church tomorrow, being one of those dysfunctional godless-liberalsl who attends church as . . . irony? Or because I'm a better xian than any of the conservatives?

Whatever–Who won?

Doktor Zoom September 30, 2012 at 1:28 am

Honestly, you did. :)

johnnyzhivago September 29, 2012 at 10:01 pm

Top Romney Debate Zingers Leaked:

- "There you go one more time"
- "Sir, I knew Richard Nixon and you're no Richard Nixon".
- "Ask yourselves are you better off today than you were 47 years ago?"

102415 September 29, 2012 at 11:48 pm

I'm going with "So…?"

DustBowlBlues September 29, 2012 at 10:05 pm

Well, shit. It's late and I'm worried about the fucking Supreme Court if the rat-bastards manage to steal this thing. I heard on Rachel that women in TX are already going to Mexico for a pill they hope aborts the fetus.

Remember: When coat hangers are outlawed, desperate women will find another way. I actually feel proud that I had an abortion at 4 weeks–suck on that, Tommy. And Todd and Michele and anyone else in the bottomless pit of vitriol and ignorance and rich puppet masters who are the Republithug party today.

Time for bed. Nitey' all.

Later, losers, and love and kisses, DBB

AlterNewt September 29, 2012 at 10:48 pm

OT – That's right. Rogue cops running 'major cheese-smuggling ring'!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-1975169

Barrelhse September 29, 2012 at 11:20 pm

Take off, you hoser.

AlterNewt September 30, 2012 at 12:26 am

CHEESE SMUGGLING!

Doktor Zoom September 30, 2012 at 1:27 am

The cops didn't fire on the suspects, for fear of shooting the bries.

AlterNewt September 30, 2012 at 3:25 am

Make light if you like, but this could be the leading wedge of an out and out coup de fromage.

Iam_Who_Iam September 30, 2012 at 10:29 am

I'm really trying hard to be patient, but it is rainy here and I am so bored. Please, where is my fun with Christianists? (Did I spell that right? I dunno, I'm not so bored I want to go check.)

Doktor Zoom September 30, 2012 at 12:09 pm

OK, it just went up!

Happy to know that this thing is actually looked forward to by some, although that may indicate a certain masochism on your part.

Sharkey September 30, 2012 at 10:57 am

Shit's worse than heroin.

menopausemafia September 30, 2012 at 9:08 am

Let's all get on the Wonkette bandwagon because the republican is a "White Male" (cue the boos and derisive comments) against a "Progressive Female" (cue the unnatural syrupy accolades for the human without a penis)….Extra points if she munches rugs…extra-extra points if she once led a hetero lifestyle but has since come out publicly as sheena. This is all so predictable, so boring, and so not progressive.

Dashboard Buddha September 30, 2012 at 10:44 am

Troll

Doktor Zoom September 30, 2012 at 12:19 pm

Nonsensical troll, too. At least grumble about things we're actually saying, O Subpontic One.

Dashboard Buddha September 30, 2012 at 1:55 pm

Remember the trolls we used to attract? There were giants in those days. This new generation of trolls is just so much weak spunk.

menopausemafia October 1, 2012 at 7:22 am

I do recall the replies I used to get from folks like you…good times, good times.

ProgressiveInga September 30, 2012 at 2:19 pm

As a dedicated Wonketteer and resident rug-muncher, I respectfully submit the following:
FUCK YOU!

menopausemafia October 1, 2012 at 7:26 am

Scream it loud, you don't have to take it any more…scream it louder, throw in "racist", "sexist", and any other ad hominem you can think of….and then go back and convince your friends that you are being brave and smart….sound familiar?

Negropolis September 30, 2012 at 10:31 pm

Woe be to the White Male! Minorities and women have it made, I tells ya'. As Romney said so elegantly, had he been born Mexican, he'd have had this thing all wrapped up, right? Fuck the fuck off, and return beneath the bridge from whence you crawled.

You idiot really believe this, and that is why you can't be debate with and must be defeated to even begin the process of learning from your false belief in fantasies.

menopausemafia October 1, 2012 at 7:23 am

The reason I "can't be debate with" is because you are an illiterate chucklehead.

miss_grundy September 30, 2012 at 7:14 pm

While reading the article is good for a laugh and a snark, I feel sorry for these home-schooled children who are learning this shite. We already have dumb adults walking around who weren't home-schooled, but I hope the children can grow out of this stuff quickly in the real world. I just wonder if they will ever tell their parents they are full of it.

bobbert September 29, 2012 at 1:52 am

Even out here in theoretically-not-so-racist Cali, there was a definite surge of Reggie-mania. It led me to a belief (which I still hold) that professional sports actually perform a social good.

Doktor Zoom September 29, 2012 at 6:08 pm

Few people are aware of the hidden references to the '77 Steelers woven into the lyrics of "You Make Lovin' Fun."

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 7:03 pm

Yes, the focus is all on Raven-hating now.But I can't hate on the only professional sports team named after a poem.

Jukesgrrl September 29, 2012 at 7:06 pm

Gotta start somewhere.But don't the Stillers always start off with a loss?

Chet Kincaid_ September 30, 2012 at 11:19 am

Art Modell made them cry, made them break down — shattered their illusions of love!

And Paul Brown is the Mormon Patriarch of Football: he was an Ohio high school coaching legend, made Ohio State a power, and started the Browns/Ravens and Bengals. Bill Walsh's West Coast Offense fell off his coaching tree, also.

AlterNewt September 30, 2012 at 11:41 am

Beautiful.

Dashboard Buddha October 1, 2012 at 7:50 am

Funny, I don't remember you at all.—

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